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Speaker 2: All right, good afternoon, Welcome in Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Thanks as well to our

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Speaker 2: today and every other day and for being a part

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Speaker 2: of this. On the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station, Austin. It's a Monday that we, I

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Speaker 2: think all know too well the feeling of in the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati sports world, and that is a Monday of I

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Speaker 2: would say, anger, frustration, disbelief, a feeling that we have

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Speaker 2: far too often in this great city of Cincinnati when

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Speaker 2: it comes to sports teams that we like to root for, unless,

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Speaker 2: of course, you are a fan of Xavier basketball. If so,

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Speaker 2: congratulations on winning another crosstown shootout. The number will just

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Speaker 2: keep rising again. The Bearcats hadn't won at the Sentas

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Speaker 2: Center since two thousand and one. That number will continue

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Speaker 2: to tick on. I don't think the more talented team one.

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Speaker 2: I thought the better coach team. On Friday Night one

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Speaker 2: the Skyline Chili Crossdown Shootout and Trey Carroll having thirty

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Speaker 2: points was unstoppable. So if you're a Xavier fan, your

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Speaker 2: weekend wasn't as bad as probably the rest of us. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: for Saint Xavier fans, they came up short in the

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Speaker 2: state championship game on Friday night, so a runner up

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Speaker 2: season for both Anderson and Saint Xavier. Friday Night, Xavier

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Speaker 2: wins the shootout. Saturday was the college football championship weekend. Now,

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Speaker 2: there were a couple games on Friday night, but the

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Speaker 2: big majority of games came under the umbrella of Saturday

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Speaker 2: the college football landscape, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: good day of college football. Unfortunately, the Miami RedHawks came

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Speaker 2: up short in the MAC Championship game. They lose to

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Speaker 2: Western Michigan, Georgia dominated Alabama, Texas Tech dominated BYU and

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Speaker 2: Duke Austin won the ACC Championship. But that's it. They

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Speaker 2: will not be participating in the College Football Playoff. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to the College Football Playoff today as we go along.

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Speaker 2: Indiana did beat Ohio State thirteen to ten, and what

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Speaker 2: was a physical, physical game. We'll talk about that game

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Speaker 2: world when we get into our number two, but just

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Speaker 2: know we will have a conversation about Indiana, Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a conversation about the final College Football Playoff rankings,

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Speaker 2: and why it matters for some teams Austin when they

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Speaker 2: lose in their title game, and why it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: to other teams who may lose in their title games.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss all of that. We'll talk about the bowl

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Speaker 2: matchups UC versus Navy Auto's own Liberty Bowl January second, Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that matchup as we get closer, what

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Speaker 2: Scott Souderfield had to say about that last night, and

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Speaker 2: so much more as the week goes on. But we

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Speaker 2: know what today is. We call it the Monday Midday Quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to what happened around the rest of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to what happened in the game itself. One

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Speaker 2: of the things Austin I think, I think gets lost

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Speaker 2: we know why Jermaine Burton was suspended yet? Have we

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Speaker 2: been told a reason? Jermaine Burton didn't make the trip

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo, So there's that outside of what happened off

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Speaker 2: was the main problem and has been the main problem

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Speaker 2: find out when I threw up. I believe midway through

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Speaker 2: surprise of nobody because I legitimately think Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 2: The Bengals didn't do that. The ball gets batted up

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was helpful in the loss. But thirty four points

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Speaker 2: the opponents are scoring an average of thirty six point

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Speaker 2: when they ran a play similar to what you could

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Speaker 2: You could look to the touchdown run to Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: the stretch instead a lot more of the same. Josh

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Speaker 2: James Cook helped the Bengals along the way with the

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen ran for a season high seventy eight yards.

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Speaker 2: surprise to nobody, the tight end room for Buffalo led

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Speaker 2: answer yesterday from the Bengals defense going after the tight

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Speaker 2: There are questionable, in my opinion, decisions that were made.

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Speaker 2: tip your cap to Josh Allen for making the plays,

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Speaker 2: but plays were there for the Bengals the win was

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Speaker 2: there for the Bengals, and if that happens, you're talking

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Speaker 2: Austin already did today and talk about how the Bengals

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Speaker 2: there's still a small path there. But that's not what

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Speaker 2: That yesterday felt every bit like a playoff, big game

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Speaker 2: a chance to win the Lombardi and the Bengals had

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Speaker 2: him on the ropes multiple times. The Bengals had the

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Speaker 2: Bills beat, but like has happened so many times this season,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals fail to get it done when it matters

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Speaker 2: the most. There was a point with eight forty four

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Speaker 2: Giseki caught the touchdown pass with eight forty four left

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Speaker 2: sobering fact is that Josh Allen put together a touchdown

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Speaker 3: One minute, one minute.

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Speaker 2: And eleven seconds in a game that you're under the

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Speaker 2: even if you give up a touchdown, can you make

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Speaker 2: Buffalo work five minutes off the clock four minutes off

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Speaker 2: too many things that went wrong in yesterday's game when

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. We're just getting started. The Monday

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Speaker 5: Postman Law on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of

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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Football in the NATI. Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Welcome back. We'll take some

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Speaker 6: And and we will talk more about the college football

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Speaker 2: I believe I'm planning on it. Do we have this war?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me? I can hear you now? All right,

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Speaker 3: so this is the start. Yeah, we had a cable.

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Speaker 2: I gave my just general thoughts on yesterday. We'll get

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Speaker 2: How many chances do you want? The National Football League?

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Speaker 2: I go back again with under eight minutes on the

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Speaker 2: at least for me, it would be understanding the rushing

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Speaker 2: That to me is the all the mentions I get.

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Speaker 2: Burrow can't throw two interceptions in a row, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Luena Rumo al Golden doesn't matter. The personnel doesn't match

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Speaker 3: And to your point, I mean, there's been changes both

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Speaker 3: And Buffalo's strength is they what they do best is

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Speaker 3: That is who they are. That is their biggest strength.

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Speaker 3: and they did, and Carter wasn't ready for it? Who else?

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Speaker 3: And did you give the stats for tight ends against

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen games, Bengals defense has given up ninety seven catches,

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Speaker 3: Joe Goodberry, who puts on his post that they're basically

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Speaker 3: me is a Al Golden issue. Yes, the personnel is part

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Speaker 3: of the problem. No one's denying that. But when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the scheme of how you take away what

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Speaker 3: they do, well, Al Golden looked like he had no

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Speaker 3: idea they were even out there. How's that possible?

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I just don't get it. On

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Speaker 2: so many levels. It just feels like a miss and

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Speaker 2: wasted opportunities. And now we're staring right down the barrel

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Speaker 2: of back to back years of wasting incredible offensive output

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Speaker 2: for a team that's in all likelihood going to be

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Speaker 2: on the outside looking in come playoff time. Let's take

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Speaker 2: ourselves a break. We'll come back once we get the

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Speaker 2: phone line issue fixed. We'll take some phone calls. We've

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Speaker 2: got plenty more to discuss as it relates to the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Plenty more to discuss when it comes to college football.

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Speaker 2: The college football playoff rankings, bowl matchups are out. The

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Speaker 2: shootout happened over the weekend and so much more on

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Speaker 2: the Monday Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 5: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There, welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. As we roll along and try to pick

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Speaker 2: up the pieces from another rough Cincinnati sports weekend by

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Speaker 2: many accounts, I have to ask Austin as we roll

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Speaker 2: along here the decision. Did you have an issue with

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Speaker 2: the decision from Zach Taylor to kick the ball deep

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Speaker 2: after scoring with two thirteen on the clock yesterday, they

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Speaker 2: go down the field, they score quickly, so two thirteen,

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Speaker 2: you got one timeout and the two minute warning, so

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Speaker 2: you're gonna stop the clock twice if you're the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I I it's different for me because they failed to

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Speaker 2: get the two point conversion, which would have cut it

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Speaker 2: to a three point game. I think if you do

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Speaker 2: cut it to three, I'm okay kicking it off deep

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Speaker 2: and then trying to just get into field goal range

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Speaker 2: once you have it at a five point deficit. I

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Speaker 2: look at a team that's already converted an on side kick.

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Speaker 2: This year, I looked at it as an opportunity because

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Speaker 2: of the weather in the field conditions that if you

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Speaker 2: were ever going to recover an onside kick, the ball's

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Speaker 2: slippery cold, it would have been conducive to that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, whether you're kicking

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Speaker 2: on side or you kick it deep, if the Bills

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Speaker 2: pick up one first down, the game is over. Regardless

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Speaker 2: would you have kicked that deep or do you think

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Speaker 2: you're trying the onside With the elements.

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Speaker 3: In the moment, I didn't mind it because, you know,

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Speaker 3: just trying to play field position, and as bad as

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Speaker 3: the defense had been, it just felt like, okay, well,

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Speaker 3: if Buffalo's going to have the ball at this good

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Speaker 3: a field position, then you know there's a chance that

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Speaker 3: they score again. And honestly, it kind of worked. They

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Speaker 3: got it to third and sixteen, They did everything right

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Speaker 3: on first and second down, and they were going to

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Speaker 3: have time. Could they force Josh Allen to just, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, not run it for twenty yards on third

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Speaker 3: and sixteen? So I get your point, though, I mean,

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Speaker 3: especially with the can, I think that's probably the best argument,

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Speaker 3: in my mind is with people slipping and sliding down there,

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Speaker 3: who knows where that ball goes, and maybe you do

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Speaker 3: end up recovering it. To me, I see it as

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Speaker 3: a push. I know that's not good radio. I know

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Speaker 3: we're supposed to have a take about everything, but like,

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Speaker 3: to me, the way it worked out was exactly what

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Speaker 3: you wanted. And on third and sixteen you couldn't bring

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Speaker 3: down the best player on the field, and essentially the

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Speaker 3: same thing probably would have happened just on a shorter field,

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Speaker 3: and maybe he scores a touchdown and said and we

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Speaker 3: just do the whole thing over again, and then you

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Speaker 3: do on side kick. I don't know. I was fine

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Speaker 3: with both in the moment though, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with this just because of the length of

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Speaker 3: the field that they had to get.

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Speaker 2: I get it. It's hard. It's either way. It's not

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Speaker 2: the best scenario in what you're in and what had

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Speaker 2: happened up to that obviously play a huge role into this.

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Speaker 2: I get all that. It is. It's it's frustrating, it's maddening.

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Speaker 2: I think in a sense of of what could have

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Speaker 2: been for this team based on uh, what ends up happening.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's been the case of the season. Again.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be another season where you're you're having the

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Speaker 2: conversation at the end of you you've just been able

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Speaker 2: to get one or two more of those winnable games.

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Speaker 2: Where would you be sitting at now? It's but you

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Speaker 2: don't you don't have that, and now you're on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking in, And yes, there is a path in

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Speaker 2: which you know, there is an option that maybe you

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Speaker 2: can find your You're you're weigh in at eight and nine.

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Speaker 2: But now you're at the point where where Baltimore canenda,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore can finish this up.

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Speaker 3: You can also end Baltimore, though you can. That'd be

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Speaker 3: kind of cool. Yeah, it would be just all right,

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Speaker 3: hold on, Oh gosh, you ready for this? Oh gosh,

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Speaker 3: all right, just let's just hang with me, let me

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Speaker 3: dive in here. Obviously, the Bengals went out in doing so.

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Speaker 3: A win against Baltimore would essentially end their season. They

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Speaker 3: would be done. Baltimore then has to play New England,

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Speaker 3: Green Bay and Pittsburgh again. Okay, Baltimore nearly came back

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Speaker 3: and won that game against Pittsburgh. You have Baltimore with

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Speaker 3: a chance to play spoiler against the Pittsburgh Steelers late

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Speaker 3: in the season and knock them out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: That in and of itself, I think counts for something.

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Speaker 3: Then you look at Pittsburgh. They've got to go to

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Speaker 3: Miami for Monday Night football? Is that game in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: or Miami? Either way at Pittsburgh, Okay, Monday Night Football

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Speaker 3: against Miami, Miami looks pretty damn good. Right now? Do

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Speaker 3: we believe that the Pittsburgh Steelers we saw yesterday are

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Speaker 3: different than the Pittsburgh Steelers we've seen for the other

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Speaker 3: twelve games thirteen games? They also have to play the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions, who were on the precipice of a playoff

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Speaker 3: birth sure, and Baltimore again and Cleveland, who we know

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Speaker 3: has a legitimate defense. I don't think it's out of

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Speaker 3: the realm of possibility for Pittsburgh to mess up in

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Speaker 3: those games, for the Bengals to win out and having

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Speaker 3: done so, ended Baltimore's season and potentially win the AFC

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Speaker 3: North at eight to nine. Now, listen, I don't believe

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Speaker 3: that's going to happen, but I do believe that it's

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Speaker 3: not a complete pipe dream. I don't think it's out

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Speaker 3: of the question that Pittsburgh could lose those games. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked endlessly about the Steelers and Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: and you've got three out of your last four on

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Speaker 3: the road, or I guess two out of your last

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Speaker 3: four on the road in Detroit, in Cleveland. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's crazy. Okay, I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: going to happen. I mean I go on the ESPN

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Speaker 3: page for the Steelers and the first video pops up,

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Speaker 3: and listen, I know it's stephen A. Smith. We don't

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Speaker 3: you know, I wouldn't walk across the street to see

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Speaker 3: stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 3: But stephen A not convinced the Steelers are any different

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Speaker 3: this year. Okay, fair right, sure, Okay, you know, I

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Speaker 3: go back. It would just have been nice, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Would just have been nice to to

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Speaker 3: not give up thirty six points a game in your

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Speaker 3: nine losses. Would have been nice not to give up

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Speaker 3: thirty four to Pittsburgh the last time they played him

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Speaker 3: and be in this situation.

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Speaker 2: Correct, at this point, it is what it is, the

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Speaker 2: whole you are, You are who Your record shows that

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Speaker 2: this far into.

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Speaker 3: The seame absolutely you are. And that's the thing, like

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Speaker 3: the Bengals in that game against Buffalo is what they

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Speaker 3: have been all season long, one or two plays away

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Speaker 3: from having a chance. And you know, I go back,

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Speaker 3: I look at you know, even green Bay. There were

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Speaker 3: a couple of plays in that green Bay game where

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Speaker 3: it could have went the other way. Obviously the Jets

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Speaker 3: and the Bears, the Patriots game, if Jamar is there,

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Speaker 3: do they win that game? And obviously Buffalo, like that's

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Speaker 3: that's been the story of the Bengals for the last

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Speaker 3: two seasons. I'm there, just but what if we get hot? Kidding,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. We're gonna take a break. You know

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Speaker 3: what especially really stinks a lot is Mahome's probably not

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Speaker 3: gonna be in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson not going to

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Speaker 3: be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Nope.

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Speaker 3: I bet Buffalo is locking their chops. This could be

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Speaker 3: their years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Buffalo yesterday did what they had to.

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Speaker 9: Dude.

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Speaker 2: They they win and they ensured they might not. They

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Speaker 2: probably want to do this again against Cincinnati, which has

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Speaker 2: been a thorn for them when it comes to the playoffs. Yep,

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Speaker 2: let's take a break, let's come back. We're still working

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Speaker 2: on the phone situation, So why we do that? Let's uh,

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Speaker 2: let's look around. It happened on a very eventful day

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League yesterday. To finish up hour

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Speaker 2: number one, the Monday midday quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Tony Can I give a shout out real quick, Yes,

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Speaker 3: shout out to our guys Mike Mills and Dave Abt

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Speaker 3: getting the work door, getting the work done. We tried

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Speaker 3: about four different cables, two different microphones, rebooting processors. I

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Speaker 3: couldn't talk to you, but now I can. I couldn't

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00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: talk to our callers, but now I can. And all

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Speaker 3: to do this while in the midst of a show

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Speaker 3: was pretty amazing. We have the best in the business,

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Speaker 3: Mike and Dave, and I thank them for making it

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Speaker 3: happen well and getting us back to normal here on

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Speaker 3: Tony Pikes since e three six and.

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Speaker 2: Lieu of that, Let's take a call or two. Let's

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Speaker 2: celebrate it that way.

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Speaker 10: What's up, John, Good afternoon, fellas.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing not too bad?

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Speaker 3: How are you not too good?

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Speaker 10: That was nauseating yesterday.

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Speaker 11: They are certainly the most entertaining, nauseating, aggravating, just any

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Speaker 11: other adjective, be one of yours. Used it as an

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Speaker 11: IG four nineteen I have ever seen, and you guys

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Speaker 11: nailed it with the defense. The only team that's really

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Speaker 11: controlled Buffalo this year in Buffalo.

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Speaker 10: Buffalo is a different team at home than they are

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Speaker 10: on the road.

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Speaker 11: At home, the Patriots tell them to twenty points and

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Speaker 11: beat them on a Monday night game because they had

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Speaker 11: the discipline on their pass rush. You have to have

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Speaker 11: pass rush integrity. You can't just fly in. You said it,

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Speaker 11: Tony can't just fly and go wildly. Pass Josh Allen.

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Speaker 11: Make him a pocket passer.

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Speaker 12: Push comes to shove.

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Speaker 10: He would rather run than throw. He's a very good thrower.

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Speaker 11: We're not saying he's not. He's not precise. He's not

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Speaker 11: Joe Burrow. As far as throwing the football. He will

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Speaker 11: give you some interception opportunities. He will kill his receiver time.

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Speaker 11: Even his screenplays look a little bit off.

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Speaker 2: And for him and their team right now, they don't

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Speaker 2: have a deep threat. Everything's going to be underneath. They

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Speaker 2: don't have a receiver that can take the top off.

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Speaker 2: Paylaid right into everything they want to do. Easy completions

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Speaker 2: to the tight ends and open up the running lanes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean they's like Brandon Cooks, who's about forty seven

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Speaker 11: years old. I mean, yes, he's like their number two

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Speaker 11: wide receiver. Why didn't the three of us know going

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Speaker 11: into the game that the tight ends are a problem

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Speaker 11: and yet the defensive staff didn't seem to grasp that.

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Speaker 11: I mean the stats that you laid out about what

649
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 11: the tight ends have done against the Bengals this year,

650
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 11: those look like the numbers from Randy Mawson two thousand

651
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Speaker 11: and seven with Tom Brady. Like you just look at

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Speaker 11: the numbers and those that doesn't make any sense or

653
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Speaker 11: what your mark Chase did last year. Basically, those are

654
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Speaker 11: like Chas's numbers from a year ago when he was

655
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 11: the best receiver in football. But the thing with Josh

656
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 11: Allen keeps him in the pocket. Let him beat you

657
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 11: from there, because what happens with him when he breaks down,

658
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 11: gets out of the pocket and starts rumbling, the sideline

659
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 11: goes crazy. Eighty thousand people go crazy. It's like a

660
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 11: Lebron James dunk when he was in his prime. If

661
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 11: you're facing Lebron James in his prime, let him beat

662
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 11: you with three pointers, not with dunks and that's the

663
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 11: process you have to have with Josh Allen. And all

664
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Speaker 11: they had to do is look at the Patriots game

665
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Speaker 11: from a couple of months ago and take something away

666
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Speaker 11: for that. I mean, heck, Jerry Montgomery coached there last year.

667
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 11: Maybe he could have looked at some of the team

668
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 11: that's notun better coach than he ever coached the team

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Speaker 11: a year ago, and just take something from someone else

670
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Speaker 11: to try to contain.

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Speaker 10: The guy who just it was horrible to watch. And

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Speaker 10: one more point.

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Speaker 11: Before I jump off, I wish they would have stayed

674
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Speaker 11: with the running game a little bit more.

675
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Speaker 10: It wasn't that effective.

676
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Speaker 11: They only had nineteen carries and they were up by

677
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 11: one or two scores, what eighty five percent of that game?

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Speaker 13: Yep.

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Speaker 10: I would like to see.

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Speaker 11: A little bit more on the ground, not a lot more,

681
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Speaker 11: but a little bit more on the ground because then

682
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 11: it sets up that great play action.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all fair, John, appreciate the phone call, man, thank you,

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Speaker 2: have a great day anytime. Fellas it is uh, it

685
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: is like to dive into that more often. It is

686
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: they They don't they Greg Olsen mentioned on the broadcast

687
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: yesterday they don't have a true deep threat in Buffalo.

688
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: Right now, you played into exactly what they wanted you

689
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: to do defensively. Here are the tight ends. Here are

690
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: Josh Allen running lanes stopped neither. What's going on, mikel

691
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: Are you.

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Speaker 10: Hey? Guys?

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Speaker 13: Yeah? Thanks, Bengals. I take your money line one time

694
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 13: and you jack it off. Wouldn't it be wonderful if

695
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 13: we could get one of these five or six best

696
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 13: defense recognize as best defensive coordinators in the NFL. Just

697
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 13: think how much better this team would be. Just think

698
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Speaker 13: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at the end, just a competent I

700
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Speaker 2: don't even need top five. I just need top fifteen,

701
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: top sixteen, and this team would be in a completely

702
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: different stratosphere.

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Speaker 14: You know.

704
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Speaker 13: And I do believe that the coach can scheme his

705
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Speaker 13: way and motivate his way and develop guys his way

706
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 13: to get more out of them than this clown's getting

707
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 13: out of these guys who aren't really that good anyway.

708
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 13: So you really, more than evere need a great coach

709
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Speaker 13: on the defense. I'm just so off that these guys

710
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 13: could just scream because they make so much damn money. Oh,

711
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Speaker 13: by the way, Tony, my midshipman, are gonna sank the

712
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Speaker 13: walk the gang plank and then dump them overboard.

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Speaker 2: I don't I doubt Dante Corleone plays in the game.

714
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: I doubt Jake Golde playing the game. Those are their

715
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Speaker 2: two best defenders by far. I don't think the three

716
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Speaker 2: three five defense is conducive against a running attack that

717
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Speaker 2: Navy implores. So yeah, I I don't know how UC

718
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Speaker 2: comes about stopping the midshipman it all in January.

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Speaker 13: Well, I always got a root for him anyway, But

720
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Speaker 13: they do have a pretty good club this year in

721
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Speaker 13: the Navy does so he Now, I'm not here to

722
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 13: criticize Joe. Why would I do that because I agree

723
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Speaker 13: with you as far as throwing the ball and processing,

724
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Speaker 13: he's he's as good as it gets. But boy, if

725
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Speaker 13: he just had that observe I know this is being greedy,

726
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 13: but if he just had that ability to run the

727
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 13: ball a little bit, like like did Josh or like Lamar?

728
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Speaker 13: Can you can you imagine how wicked Joe would be?

729
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 13: Then ye, God almighty, But he doesn't. Now when he

730
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 13: first came up, he used to run sometimes, didn't He for.

731
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Speaker 2: At a little bit, but not to the level of

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Speaker 2: what these guys can.

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Speaker 13: And those two catches the teammate yesterday, he should be

734
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Speaker 13: a number one with somebody. I'll tell you that.

735
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Speaker 2: They wasted so much.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely and the offensive line for as critical as we were,

737
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Speaker 13: I mean, I haven't looked at pro football focused, but

738
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Speaker 13: I think these guys are holding up and doing a

739
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Speaker 13: pretty darn good job, don't you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yes one sack again giving up yesterday. I think the

741
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Speaker 2: old lines more than pulled their weight over the second

742
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Speaker 2: half of the season. I will give them that.

743
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Speaker 13: And by the way, I know you don't like Stephen A. Austin.

744
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Speaker 13: I do like Steven as successful as there is in broadcasting.

745
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 13: I mean, the guys involved with everything and makes a

746
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 13: ton of money, but I get a kick out of

747
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 13: his show. Sometimes he's obnoptionios with the yell on the

748
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 13: screen that I agree with that. But he was very

749
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 13: empathetic to Joe this morning. I don't know if you

750
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 13: guys heard it, but he was legit feeling so bad

751
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 13: for Joe with those two picks. He just I won't

752
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 13: go into all the reasons why, but just leave it

753
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 13: to say he was very empathetic to Joe, and he

754
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 13: recognizes Joe's talent and realizes how great Joe is, but

755
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 13: I wish you guys could have heard it because he

756
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 13: legit felt bad for Joe and I do too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of us do. Thank you, Mike,

758
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Let's take a break, Let's come back.

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Speaker 2: the rest of the NFL. Let's break down what happened

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Speaker 2: Our number two since E three sixty, the Monday midday

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Speaker 2: Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's take a

779
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 2: step away from just the Bengals yesterday, look at everything

780
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: else that happened in the National Football League. Six to

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00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: six Austin was the score of the Falcon Seahawks at halftime.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was.

783
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 2: Thirty one to three was the score in the second half.

784
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: Seahawks ran away with that one from the Falcons. They

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00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: win thirty seven to nine. It was actually a fun

786
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Speaker 2: one in Cleveland. How about Shad Door Sanders three hundred

787
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: and sixty four yards, three touchdowns, not enough as the

788
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Speaker 2: Browns give up thirty one to cam Ward and the

789
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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Browns tied that at the end of the

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Speaker 2: e They cut it within two and tried to run

791
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Speaker 2: a How would you describe wildcat snap to quinch On

792
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: Judkins who failed to pitch it when he should have.

793
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Speaker 2: It looked like a cluster it was. I mean that

794
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: that play is the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, speaking of which,

795
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw my tweet over the

796
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: weekend did you. I went to Marshalls get some get

797
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: a few things, Christmas shopping done, and what they got

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Speaker 2: my picture up?

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Speaker 3: They don't, but they have a job. They had Johnny

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Speaker 3: Manzell Brown's like McFarlane figurines. Oh you know those things? Yeah, random,

801
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: but they had like three of them there. Okay, eight dollars.

802
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: I almost did. I really almost did, just because it's

803
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: a piece of history and just thinking about that last

804
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: play made me think of the Johnny Manziel era in

805
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: Cleveland and really the entire Browns organization. Yeah, speaking of

806
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: a cluster, Kevin Stefanski coaches like he wants to get fired,

807
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: and I don't know that I would blame him.

808
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: He kind of does.

809
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, fifteen seconds ago, Kevin Stefanski announced Sudor

810
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Speaker 3: Sanders will start the rest of the season for the Browns.

811
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Speaker 3: So week eighteen, there we go with a playoff spot

812
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Speaker 3: on the line of the Bengals. It'll be Joe Burrow

813
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: up against my time Sanders. There we go, speaking of clusters,

814
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: how about the Commanders? Man not good there?

815
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: Daniels comes back, he leaves the game. Vikings beat the

816
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: Commanders thirty one to nothing. You mentioned how good the

817
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: Dolphins have been They win their fourth in a row.

818
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: They are now six and seven, thirty four to ten

819
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: winners over the Jets. What about a dumb founding loss yesterday?

820
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: The Saints with no Alvin Kamara go on the road

821
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: and win at Tampa.

822
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Speaker 3: I think the Saints might have something in Tyler Shuck.

823
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, two rushing touchdowns yesterday.

824
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: He looks, he looks. There are some guys that you know,

825
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: you watch him play the position and you're like, Okay,

826
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: there's something there. Don't know if we're gonna unlock all

827
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: of it this year, but there's something there. They traded

828
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: away Rashid Shaheed to the Saint Louis Or to the

829
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, it was their best deep threat. And

830
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: Shuck has really operated that offense really well. I think

831
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore deserves a lot of credit. And if we're

832
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: thinking forward to the NFL Draft and teams ahead of

833
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Speaker 3: the Bengals that may or may not be drafting quarterbacks,

834
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Speaker 3: the Saints are one of those teams. Are they going

835
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Speaker 3: to be drafting a quarterback now?

836
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Speaker 10: Yep?

837
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: I wonder and because this is especially not a great class, no,

838
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: not at all for quarterbacks coming out. I think that's

839
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Speaker 3: a really interesting one. And when you look at the

840
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: rest of their schedule, yep, Panthers, Jets, Titans, Falcons, Saints

841
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: are one of those teams that, if we believe the

842
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: Bengals aren't going to make the playoffs and aren't going

843
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: to win very much, you should be rooting like hell

844
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Speaker 3: for the Saints to.

845
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Speaker 2: Pick up a couple w's. Yeah, bad loss for the

846
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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Huge loss for the Indianapolis Colts. Not

847
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: only they lose the game to the Jags, they lose

848
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones as well with an achilles injury. The worry

849
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Speaker 2: I'd listened to them going into the game. The worry

850
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: is you're putting so much to the left leg injury

851
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: that you don't focus on the right leg. Achilles injury

852
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: to that right leg devastating for Daniel Jones and the Colts,

853
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: whose playoff hopes now seem like they're really starting to spiral. Yeah,

854
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: other direction for the Jaguars though, Trevor Lawrence looks better,

855
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: etn looks good. Brian Thomas had eighty seven yards. Jags

856
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: are playing good football.

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00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the Colts rest of their season. Hey,

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00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: you got to go at Seattle, Riley Leonard good luck,

859
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: and then you've got San Francisco, Jacksonville and at Houston

860
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Speaker 3: to end the season. I don't know that the Colts

861
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: are going to make the playoffs, especially with the Bengals

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00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: going on their run.

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Speaker 2: Correct we talked about earlier Steelers win. I don't know

864
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: what's going on with the Baltimore Ravens. Isaiah likely he

865
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: lost the ball into the end zone against the Bengals.

866
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Should have been a touchdown drops.

867
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: One yesterday that was in the end zone that they

868
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: ruled an incomplete pass. Steelers do enough. Steelers beat the

869
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Ravens twenty seven to twenty two. Broncos beat up on

870
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: the Raiders. That score was not indicative of how close

871
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 2: the game was. Broncos win twenty four to seven.

872
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: Can you see the end.

873
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 16: Of that game?

874
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 3: I did the Bronx. The Raiders just kicked the field

875
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 3: goal to make it seven points. That's time expired.

876
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 10: We're good.

877
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: What take it? Packers?

878
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: Was a backdoor cover by the way, somebody needs to

879
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: be investigated. Was all right back to you.

880
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: Packers beat the Bears. That was a good game, that

881
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: was fun. I don't think the postgame handshake. I don't

882
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: think the Bears are there yet, but they're they're getting

883
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: there under Ben Johnson yet because Ben Johnson took the

884
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: job and he said he can't wait to beat Matt

885
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: Lafloor twice a year.

886
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: He said he enjoyed beating him twice a year in

887
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: Detroit and understandable for Matt Lafleur to say, yeah, get

888
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: the hell off my field. So hun, Yeah, Caleb Williams,

889
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: You know, I think this is the Caleb Williams experience.

890
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: I think is going to be very similar to that

891
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: of the Jameis Winston experience. One minute, it's like, Holy cow,

892
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: this guy is got it. In the next minute, it

893
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: is like what on earth is he thinking? And that

894
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: was I didn't love the play call on fourth and

895
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: one there at the end of the game. I didn't

896
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: especially didn't love the decision by Caleb. Why are we

897
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: rolling quarterbacks out to their left? I don't know? And

898
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: against that defense, Yeah, it was. That was not a

899
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: great wild call from Ben Jonson.

900
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: We're going to get the rolling quarterbacks out to their

901
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: left here in just a few minutes, rams dominate the

902
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. And it wasn't Kyen Williams. It was Blake Corum. Yeah,

903
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: twelve carries a buck twenty eight, two touchdowns, poking a

904
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: coup of bucks sixty seven in two touchdowns. Rams got

905
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: right back on track. The Arizona by the way, no

906
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray the rest of the year, and then last

907
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: night did we witness the end of the Kansas City dynasty.

908
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: I want to make this about Kansas City and what

909
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: they did or didn't do to me, though, Austin, It's

910
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: more about the Texans. It's more about their defense. It's

911
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: more about CJ. Stroud looking more and more like the

912
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: Stroud that a lot of people saw his rookie year.

913
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: Texans are eight and five. There is not a team

914
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: in the NFL that wants to play that team defensively,

915
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: No good luck the tech defensive side of the ball.

916
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: Texans are that team that nobody wants to play in

917
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs. If they can find any sort of offensive

918
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 3: consistency and they have a lot of issues on offense,

919
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: they're banged up on that, as with all their skill

920
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: possession positions basically, but if they can find any sort

921
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: of consistency on offense, they're a legit player in the AFC.

922
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that and the way that they

923
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: just made life hell for Mahomes. And then I mean, gosh,

924
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have all these offensive line injuries and first

925
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: play of the game lose their starting left tackle, the

926
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 3: backups to the backups were playing for Kansas City. But yeah,

927
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: it seems like we're probably at the end there. Casey,

928
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that they are gonna find a way

929
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: into the playoffs. They still have to play the Chargers

930
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: and the Broncos this season. I don't know that that's

931
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: gonna be viable for them. Yeah, I'm with you.

932
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Monday night football tonight, Philly at the Los Angeles Chargers.

933
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears real quick. Let's talk about what happened Saturday.

934
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: Let's start with Saturday night Indiana winners over Ohio State

935
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: thirteen to ten in the Big Ten championship game. You

936
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: mentioned rolling quarterbacks out to their left. I was curious

937
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: as to how offensively that game was called for Ohio State,

938
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: and down by the goal line, they did the same thing.

939
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: They rolled Julian Saying out to his left on a

940
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: one man route to Jeremiah Smith. That just didn't make

941
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: much sense. Ohio State blunders inside the ten yard line

942
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: officially or what did them in? As our resident Buckeye

943
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: here Austin, what was your take on what you watched

944
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: transpire on Saturday night.

945
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: It was the first time that Ohio State had played

946
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: an interior defensive front that can move people around, and

947
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: it showed and Indiana did. At one point Ohio State

948
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: had their starting I believe right guard get benched. It

949
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: threw off the timing of Julian saying he held the

950
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: ball a little bit too long. He was trying to

951
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: move around the pocket and just create space. And I

952
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: also think Indiana did a good job of disguising coverages

953
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: made showing Julian some stuff that he hadn't seen before.

954
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: And you know, to his credit, he wasn't just throwing

955
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: the ball around recklessly. He did have one bad interception,

956
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: but he was still twenty one of twenty nine. But

957
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: they weren't really taking deep shots. They weren't really running

958
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: the football effectively. I mean, as a team, they only

959
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: carried it for two and a half yards per carry.

960
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: I mean, bo Jackson was good, but those were his

961
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: numbers are skewed a little bit. The short yardage Julian

962
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: can't run on a QB sneak.

963
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: But he took some bad socks early as well.

964
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: He did. It was just a situation where the offensive

965
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: line for Ohio State got bullied by Indiana, and because

966
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: of that, the entire offense was thrown off. I also

967
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: don't really think it was an offense that was emptying

968
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: out the playbook. And a lot of people want to

969
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: talk about, Okay, well Brian Hartline was in Tampa and

970
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: he was doing this and blah blah blah blah blah.

971
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that that has that much of an

972
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: effect honestly, as much as it was just Indiana was

973
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 3: really good and we had a couple of bad plays.

974
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: You missed a chip shot field goal.

975
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: Any animated plays when they needed to the third down, dude,

976
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: tip your cap to them.

977
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: Those dudes were just they were flat out making plays,

978
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: yep one. And there was a couple where Ohio State

979
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: defenders were as in perfect position as you could be

980
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: and the ball is just in a better spot. So

981
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: kudos to Mendoza for that. I mean, they played great,

982
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: and yeah, I think the biggest thing Ohio State fans

983
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: would be questioning is what exactly was the plan in

984
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: the red zone, and why are you taking Jeremiah Smith

985
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: and Carnell Tate off the field in some of those moments.

986
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: I would like to see them spread it out a

987
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: little bit more.

988
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: As for the college football playoff bracket and what that

989
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: meant that was released yesterday, Indiana, to no surprise, is

990
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: your number one overall seed, Indiana. Now I'm sorry, Ohio

991
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: State is your two. Georgia is your three, Texas Tech

992
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: is the four. The big news from yesterday Austin the

993
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: last two teams in the field, well, last three teams

994
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: Miami and Florida, Tulane and James Madison. So a couple

995
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: things here. One, you don't have the ACC champion, the

996
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: Duke Blue Devils, and I get it, they lost five games,

997
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: that's a tough ask, but they are champions of the ACC.

998
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: Number two. Alabama played in their conference championship game and

999
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: the twenty eight to seven score was not indicative as

1000
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: to how much Georgia dominated that game. I agree Alabama

1001
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: never had a chance, and yet Alabama did not move

1002
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: down at all in the rankings. BYU did play against

1003
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. They lost to Texas Tech. That's BYU's only

1004
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: two losses of the year are to the fourth ranked

1005
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: team in the college Football Playoff rankings. Yet BYU plummeted

1006
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: after that loss. And then what everyone is talking about,

1007
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: Miami jumps over Notre Dame. Both of those teams were

1008
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: not active. It's led to madness. Notre Dame has now

1009
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: declined a bowl bid. They will not be playing postseason ball.

1010
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Miami gets in and it's it's a it's a weird

1011
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: it's just a weird bracket. Texas Tech will play the

1012
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: winner of Oregon and James Madison, Indiana A waits the

1013
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: winner of Alabama Oklahoma. Georgia awaits the winner of Tulane

1014
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: and Old miss which I think is the best path,

1015
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: and then Ohio State's gonna have to play Miami of

1016
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: Florida or Texas A and M and then the winner

1017
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: of that will play against Georgia. What did you make?

1018
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: Why do you think it's weird? What's weird about it?

1019
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: I thought Alabama staying where they are was was wrong.

1020
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: I thought they should have been penalized, just as BYU

1021
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: was penalized. Uh, if you if you dive into actual

1022
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: rankings by strength of schedule, who played for a conference championship?

1023
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: Who your losses were to Miami of Florida had the

1024
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: forty fifth forty fifth ranks strength of schedule there Uh,

1025
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: they didn't play for the ACC title. They lost to

1026
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: s MU and law BYU twenty second ranked strength of schedule,

1027
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: played in the Big twelve title two losses to number

1028
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: four Texas Tech on the road in the Big twelve

1029
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: title game. Notre Dame strength of schedule one better than Miami,

1030
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: did not play for a conference championship, and their losses

1031
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: were to Texas A and M in Miami. So I

1032
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: guess my end all be all is if you look

1033
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: at the numbers, the committee is so disconnected from what

1034
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: the numbers say. And I get that the committee is

1035
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: the human element of this thing. I just I wonder

1036
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: if this is going to lead to more. I wonder

1037
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: if it's eventually. I heard Kirk kirk Street yesterday say,

1038
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, that's why I think sixteen is the number.

1039
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: You can't just keep expanding the number. You can't keep

1040
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: doing that. You're gonna have someone remember it was four

1041
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: a couple.

1042
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: Of years ago. Yeah, and they never should have changed.

1043
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: And if it's four this year, Austin, I think it's easy.

1044
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1045
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Indiana, Georgia, Ohio State. Those would be your

1046
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: four at any level, right making it well, now it's madness.

1047
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: My argument has always been that on any given year,

1048
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: there's not really four, or there's not really more than four,

1049
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: maybe six, teams that actually can win the national championship.

1050
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: I don't believe in James Madison. I don't believe in Oregon.

1051
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't believe in Bama, Oklahoma, Tulane, Ole, miss Miami,

1052
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: or Texas A and M. I don't believe in any

1053
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: of those teams that they could actually win it. Yeah,

1054
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: this is a very flawed system. We all know this.

1055
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I think the committee puts so much value

1056
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: on Alabama's win at Georgia that they were basically in

1057
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: no matter what which. That again is part of the

1058
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: absurdity of this entire process that those people get to

1059
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: decide it. Notre Dame has a legitimate beef because Miami

1060
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: was ranked behind them all season long and then all

1061
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: of a sudden they jump them. That is, if I

1062
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: was Notre Dame, I would be furious and good for

1063
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: Notre Dame for saying, I'm not gonna give you some

1064
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: money by playing some problems. I have no problem with

1065
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: that either. The issue has always been this, and this

1066
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: if you've listened to this show over the years, has

1067
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: always been my take. These twelve teams are not the

1068
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: twelve best teams in the country. They're not. And it's

1069
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: never been about the twelve best teams in the country.

1070
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: It's been about trying the whole like automatic bids thing

1071
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: or like whatever that's just exists for the idea of

1072
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: putting in some schools that like deserved a chance, like

1073
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: the Bearcats in twenty twenty, like the Bearcats in twenty one,

1074
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: like UCF in twenty seventeen, Like it should be twelve

1075
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: teams for that in and of itself, Like if the

1076
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 3: if one of those teams is inside the top twelve,

1077
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: they get in the automatic bids and qualifiers. That's all.

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00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: It's so stupid. We don't need Tulane, we don't need

1079
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: James Madison. Let's call it what it is. Those teams

1080
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: are not teams that can legitimately win the national championship,

1081
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: and they take away from teams who would be better

1082
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: matchups and would actually maybe go on a run like

1083
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: a BYU or like a Notre Dame. Sure, and that's

1084
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: always been. The issue is it's not about the twelve

1085
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: best teams, and that's what I've always hated about it.

1086
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: And if somebody gets mad, guess what, They'll just change

1087
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: the rules. And I have already changed the rules for

1088
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: next year to the point where Notre Dame gets in. Basically,

1089
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Speaker 3: no matter.

1090
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Speaker 16: What, like.

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Speaker 2: It is, it's never going to to be perfect. And

1092
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you're never going to have You're never

1093
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: gonna have the best twelve teams playing. No, And I

1094
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: think that's the that's the rough part about this. You

1095
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: mean none of those other teams are making a run

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Speaker 2: at the national title.

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Speaker 3: No so. And again it's what is the point of

1098
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: what we do here? Is it to crown an actual

1099
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: national champion? Or is it to appease a few different

1100
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: fan bases each year and make money off of them.

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: It's stupid. The whole thing is stupid. The people who

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: run it are stupid, the politics of it are stupid.

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: And I'm somebody who benefits from it, like my team

1104
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: is perfectly positioned to not have any gripe with this

1105
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: whole thing, Like I get it, Like I'm the top

1106
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: one percent here and I just look at the rest

1107
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: of it and say, how is this fun forever? I

1108
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: mean to Tulane and ole Miss already played this year.

1109
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: Alabama is not that good? Oklahoma not that good? James Madison.

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: I guess you get to have the jersey with the

1111
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: College Football Playoff logo on it. You get to put

1112
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: up some signage in your facility that says, hey, we

1113
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: went to the playoff. Sure cool.

1114
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: Bearcats are going bowling, Miami RedHawks are going bowling. Miami's

1115
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: going to the Snoop Bowl again. Man, Bearcats are going

1116
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: to the Liberty Bowl. They're going to take on Navy.

1117
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that game as we go into

1118
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: this week. Any other college football related topics that we've missed,

1119
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't believe so.

1120
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Speaker 3: Just the the incredible, incredible history of the Liberty Bowl.

1121
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's we've We've got time between now

1122
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: and January second to really dive into that, as well

1123
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: as the matchup with the Navy Midshipman without Ken Niamt

1124
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: Lolo Army Navy week Army Navy. Good chance for the

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: Bearcats do a little scouting. Get the scout your opponent.

1126
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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: That's the nine and two Navy Midshipman again, Austin behind

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Speaker 2: uh not Ken Niamatalolo. Now for the Midshipman. We'll take

1129
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Speaker 2: a break. Can't wait to get to your Monday midday

1130
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: quarterback edition of Talkbacks next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1131
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: Hey Alexa, Hey, here's that part for talkbacks with that

1133
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 8: microphone and record a message Hunter missile toe remission not

1134
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 8: keep for this.

1135
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: You better not be naughty.

1136
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Speaker 8: That's kind that time for talkbacks, it's the most what

1137
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 8: fiful time of the show. Austin And well, you guide

1138
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 8: this very slow today and try not to sabotage it.

1139
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible.

1140
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 17: This, this is.

1141
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: This is a completely different level. Yeah of awe that

1142
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: I'm in. Even with a little studio fade there at

1143
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: the end, we attention to detail. It's incredible, Bob and

1144
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: Burlington has done it again. He is the very best.

1145
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: He I mean, we should be paying him for this,

1146
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: ash Man. He's better than some people that that work

1147
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: for us. And I'm grateful. That was so good. Thank you, Bob.

1148
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: Enjoyed that.

1149
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: I can't wait for the Easter one.

1150
01:03:59,120 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

1151
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: Time's day. Perhaps you know, I'm just putting stuff on

1152
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: his list. It's hard to believe.

1153
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: Just gets you.

1154
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 18: James Madison Bloomington aka Indiana.

1155
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm trying to play this, but it seems I can't.

1156
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 3: I can't hear it. Can you hear it?

1157
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: I can't hear anything.

1158
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: How about now, it's hard to believe.

1159
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 18: James Madison, Bloomington aka Indiana. Hoosiers thirteen and oh going

1160
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 18: to the Rose Bowl. The defense and Charlie Becker should

1161
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 18: have been the games MVPs. Whealburrow's two flat tires hurt us,

1162
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 18: but I'm so happy to see Wheelburrow back on the field.

1163
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: Crack him up, crank them up.

1164
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: Thank you after being in a state of depression coping

1165
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: with bourbon last night.

1166
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 19: Oh, wake up to the path for the Bengals to

1167
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 19: get into the playoffs.

1168
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 10: We don't need this.

1169
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 17: What we need.

1170
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 19: Score the Reds to sign Kyle Schwarber.

1171
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't even mention that the pirates put a

1172
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: little pressure on the Reds four year deal.

1173
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: Pay up, baby, that's cute, I'm sure is what Kyle

1174
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: Schwarber is sing. Toe naughty, what up?

1175
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 10: It's maso.

1176
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 9: So I know the Xavier fans have been living it up.

1177
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 9: Letting us know it's been x amount of days since

1178
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 9: we've won it the Centas and rightfully, so we got

1179
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 9: to own that one. But the only thing I don't

1180
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 9: understand is Xavier fans get so mad when you see

1181
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 9: brings up the past. So if they want to go there,

1182
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 9: it's been exactly nineteen thousand and seven days since they're

1183
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 9: sorry as schools played a football game, and they still

1184
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 9: have zero final fours. So until they win something significant,

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01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 9: they will always be irrelevant.

1186
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: That is serious, cope, right, Let's tell you what that is.

1187
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: He is coping, tell you what that is. That is

1188
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: a man that's going through it right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure sure he's assorting peaks today because

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: he have a job. He's resorting to Xavier football. Yeah,

1191
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: that's a bad that's that guy. Man, he's he is,

1192
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: He's in the thick of it right now.

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 20: This is David with your daily reminder, eight thousand, seven

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01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 20: hundred and sixty one days since the Bearcats have won

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 20: it Sintas Center. Even crazier stat of the day. By

1196
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 20: the time they play them again in the Sintas Center,

1197
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 20: it'll be nearly ninety five hundred days before they've won ouch.

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Speaker 21: Wow wow, oh the weather in Buffalo yesterday was frightful

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Speaker 21: in the fourth quarter. Joe Burrow wasn't so delightful. And

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 21: since Josh havevin't had some place to go, third and

1201
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 21: fifteen and let him go, let him go, let him go.

1202
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 22: What's up guys by Kahuna in Kentucky. I'm just glad

1203
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 22: Mike Pence wasn't on that committee and they had the

1204
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 22: courage to do the right thing, and my Hurricanes got in.

1205
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 22: I hope we get to see Oddie's Buckeyes on New

1206
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 22: Year's Eve.

1207
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh don't get me wrong. I love Borough.

1208
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 10: I think he's the best quarterback in the league.

1209
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 22: Nobody had take over him, and especially in the one

1210
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 22: through three quarters that this concern's got to be coming

1211
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 22: in in the fourth quarter.

1212
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 10: Now, he still makes some good plays fourth quarter, but

1213
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 10: he has a lot of turnovers in the fourth quarters.

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Speaker 22: That cast some games yesterday, starting with the Chiefs last

1215
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 22: year at Kansas City.

1216
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: Last time Ohio State played on New Year's Eve, it

1217
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: did not go well.

1218
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: Watch out for the U, Watch out for the U.

1219
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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 10: I am just waking up filled with regret.

1221
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 23: And you know it's not about who I woke up

1222
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 23: next two or what I trained last night or what

1223
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 23: I ate last night, And it ain't even about It's

1224
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 23: not even about Borough throwing those picks. My biggest regret

1225
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 23: is that when Joe Burrow through that interception that pick six.

1226
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 23: My regret is that it wasn't second and ten, because

1227
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 23: if it was, Zach Taylor not have resisted from running

1228
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 23: the ball.

1229
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Speaker 3: All right, of all things to be mad at, the

1230
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: Bengals were ten of twelve on third downs. They ran

1231
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: the ball really well on second downs to bring up

1232
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: third and manageables. And this is what we're gonna nitpick about.

1233
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Speaker 7: Yes, Craig Terraville terrible weekend, Bearcats, Bengals, buck Eys lose.

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: But the saving grace for me Notre Dame out Here's a.

1235
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 7: Team refuses to play in a conference, hand picks their

1236
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 7: week schedule, and then they have the nerve to say, oh,

1237
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 7: we scored one hundred and nineteen points the last two weekends.

1238
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're gone by Notre Dame.

1239
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 24: Oh.

1240
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: Now, I don't like Notre Dame that much either, but

1241
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 3: I don't think they do a bad job picking their schedule.

1242
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: I think they, for the most party going forward, play

1243
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 3: a competitive schedule. Now, yeah, I'm sure now they'll just

1244
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: play MAC teams. But I think Notre Dame has a

1245
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: legit beef, I really do, and I don't like them

1246
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: at all.

1247
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think wines play two scores.

1248
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 3: To watch the buck Eyes destroy the Indiana Hoosiers.

1249
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's pretty simple.

1250
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 4: I win.

1251
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: Wow, yep, yep.

1252
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: You got nothing for that, got nothing for that.

1253
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 3: Just gotta sit there and take it.

1254
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 13: M hm.

1255
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 21: It's the Lord on a terrible Monday.

1256
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 20: Instead of talking about the Bengals losing, let's talk about

1257
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 20: some of our other sports teams.

1258
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, the Bearcats lost too.

1259
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, it was worth a try.

1260
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 9: Well, I guess the Bengals season is officially.

1261
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 3: Over and none of that matters because as the back

1262
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: of the city. Baby, you just took him down.

1263
01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 25: Let's go.

1264
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 26: You guys just lost to a team that shot twenty

1265
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 26: percent from three and fifty percent from free throw.

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: That's malpracticed. How did he still have a job?

1267
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, he was in.

1268
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 26: His zone, couldn't get saved to score, and then went

1269
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 26: out of it and then they kept scoring.

1270
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: He's terrible, awfulman for Mayor.

1271
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 27: Let go.

1272
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. I don't understand how Wes still has

1273
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: a job. Hey, it's me Cad Brendall here. Just wanted

1274
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: your listeners to know, for just sixteen cents a day.

1275
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 24: That's sixteen cents a day, new members because igned for

1276
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 24: a whole calendar year and join a community of.

1277
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 3: Miserable Bearcash fans like myself. Let's be miserable together. Wow,

1278
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: it's good.

1279
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,919
Speaker 28: Austin Buddy hit that breaking new sounder.

1280
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 3: Oh this just in.

1281
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 28: The Tony and Mo Football Show will go on as

1282
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 28: scheduled this afternoon.

1283
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: However, there's a big issue. That issue is there were.

1284
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 3: No winners over the weekend. Oh yes, the go first.

1285
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: So what on earth are they going to talk about?

1286
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: I believe have a good day.

1287
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 3: I believe Richard Patino is going to join him at Peaks.

1288
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 3: He won, he won, I'd walk I'd welcome Richard. I

1289
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: really if if I don't tell people how to do

1290
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 3: their job. But if Xavier had a sense of humor,

1291
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: if they were smart about this, they would send Patino

1292
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: up there today. They should and just have him walk

1293
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: right up. Winners go first, and he should. I hope

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: he does. I know they're listening.

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: He'd go right on.

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: Send coach Patino up there, do twenty minutes with him

1297
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 3: Westchester and Pigs make Tony and Mo eat a little

1298
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: bit of crow.

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Speaker 24: Hello, this is former President Ronald Regan. And well, I

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 24: don't want to give a huge shout out to longtime

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01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 24: listener Joe. You see, I met Joe this morning and

1302
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 24: we were talking about Sports Dog Radio. He said his

1303
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 24: favorite show is since he three to sixty, and well,

1304
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 24: I didn't let on to the fact that I am

1305
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 24: Ronald Reagan, so I asked him who his favorite talkbacker was,

1306
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 24: and of course he said loud talkback guy. That's mine too.

1307
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 24: He should have seen his face when I told him

1308
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 24: who I was. It was a blast.

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome. Shout out to Joe. That's cool.

1310
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 29: Could make a priority this offseason to higher a defensive

1311
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 29: assistant from one of the division teams or Buffalo who

1312
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 29: can sit down with whoever is on our defensive staff

1313
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 29: next year and try to end this decade long inability

1314
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 29: to cover tight ends and just tell us what they're

1315
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 29: seeing when day watched the film on our defense.

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: Great question. I really wish Al Golden would have gotten

1317
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: that Penn State job.

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01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 30: Hey Pallas, here's a question, mainly for Tony Okay, is

1319
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 30: Joe Burrow a legit six four, he doesn't seem like

1320
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 30: it to me, Or is he just got a really

1321
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 30: low release angle confess something that you can or would

1322
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 30: want to correct.

1323
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 31: I mean, he's not as bad as Andy Dalton getting

1324
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 31: batted down at the line.

1325
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 30: Of scrimmage, but he's starting from the shotgown on every play.

1326
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 4: Is he a legit six four like a six to

1327
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 4: two guy sixty four on his football guard?

1328
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: No, I think he's legitimate with the height.

1329
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't. There's a good picture of him with Josh

1330
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: Allen that kind of I don't feel like.

1331
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't feel like he's like had a career long

1332
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: issue of getting balls back of down.

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: No, he hasn't.

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 32: I had someone tell me that that game was lost

1335
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 32: by Joe, and I just will not believe that because

1336
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 32: I think Joe could be able to throw a pick

1337
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 32: six every game, score thirty four points and we should

1338
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 32: win that game every time every time with him throwing

1339
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 32: a pick six.

1340
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. It's a fair point, it really is.

1341
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 17: But go x.

1342
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: All right, your reaction the terrible Monday Tony in Austin.

1343
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:33,959
Speaker 4: I really thought.

1344
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 6: Sadafield was gonna get you know, University A Cincinnati into

1345
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 6: the Snoop dogg Arizona.

1346
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: Bowl, because that's what he's been doing with our UC wins,

1347
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 3: dropping them like they are hot. M It just goes

1348
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: to show you that.

1349
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 28: Joe Burrow has to play perfect football team to win.

1350
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 28: Can't be good, he can't be okay. He has to

1351
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 28: play perfect football for this team to win. And how

1352
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 28: sad is that this kid is dragging and pulling and

1353
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 28: clawing and fighting and his coach does nothing about it.

1354
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure to put on someone. By

1355
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: the way, the quarterback I was told is the best

1356
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL yes day. Yes, he's coming off an

1357
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: MVP season. Josh Allenstrom ten interceptions this year to twenty

1358
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: two touchdowns.

1359
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm far for catch Strutch wrapping the city out of

1360
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 3: a sunny Zona.

1361
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 10: What up, Tony?

1362
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 17: What up?

1363
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: Body? Man? The defense?

1364
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 25: When it was thirty and fifteen, I looked at my wife.

1365
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 25: I took that last shot and sat there and took.

1366
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: It like a man.

1367
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 25: I knew it was coming. We all felt that smoke coming, y'all.

1368
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 25: We knew that was coming. That defense can't do anything,

1369
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 25: wes Man. I'm tired of wes I'm done. You can't

1370
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 25: beat zevery Man really tall. You better get to the tournament.

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 25: Are you done? And coach Sat, we're getting a liberty

1372
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 25: bow yay, big deal?

1373
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 3: Who cares?

1374
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 16: Man? I don't.

1375
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 27: Man had a great win on Thanksgiving at Baltimore.

1376
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun and the.

1377
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 27: Vibes were good. It looked at you know, things were

1378
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 27: looking up. It was a small chance, but it was

1379
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 27: still a chance and you could see the pass the

1380
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 27: path at least, and then Lucy pulls the football out

1381
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 27: from under.

1382
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: You and this happens.

1383
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 27: This team has been losing games an embarrassing fashion for three.

1384
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 3: Years in a row.

1385
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 27: It is mind boggling that Zach Kailer can keep his

1386
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 27: job through all of this. This is such an unserious

1387
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 27: front off.

1388
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: Guys, taking hing away from Josh Allen.

1389
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 10: Doesn't we all know he's great?

1390
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 21: But both times that bj Hill was there in front

1391
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 21: of him, why wasn't he putting up his hands? I mean,

1392
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 21: I thought that's something. You're tall as a youngster, get

1393
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 21: your hands up at least try and make it more

1394
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 21: difficult for him the past, or even to flact it.

1395
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: Take care of everybody. You're down. Yeah, we don't bat

1396
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: a lot of balls. We'll just break down, you know,

1397
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 3: just fly. Embarrassing for Cincinnati sports period. I mean you

1398
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: look at the third and fifteen. You only had to

1399
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 3: make one stop to getting down the ball back. You

1400
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 3: couldn't do that.

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 25: This defense is straight trash. With third year in a row,

1402
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 25: we get trash defense. And then you turn around you

1403
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 25: look at UC sports football and basketball, both coaches get

1404
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 25: out class. We have no type of nothing going momentum,

1405
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 25: going our way into the future. West Mains David looked

1406
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 25: like a top twenty five team. Nobody cares about the

1407
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 25: liberty bow.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: I hear you, but I don't.

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: I'll say this, aston Tony, I'll say this. Do you

1410
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: think there was any conversation that Josh Allen was even

1411
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: going to attempt to throw a pass on third and

1412
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: fifteen and risking in completion?

1413
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

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01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: I really don't. I really think if you look at

1415
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: the routes, I think they're just running guys off. The

1416
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: guard pulls out.

1417
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 16: Oh.

1418
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: I think there's a conversation by the Bengals. I think

1419
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: they think he will No.

1420
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think when you look at the

1421
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: play design, I don't think it was ever meant to

1422
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: throw be thrown. Yeah, I think he was going to

1423
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: run that ball regardless, because if you throw that in

1424
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: completion and now there's almost two minutes left for Burrow,

1425
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: good luck they that was either going to be a

1426
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 2: checkdown or he was pulling that ball and.

1427
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 26: Running Austin, Tony, they are who they are. They are

1428
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 26: who they are now that that Hopie and Bloom is

1429
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 26: finally burst. When we get back to throwing up on

1430
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 26: ownership and Duke for the construction of this team.

1431
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: They're feckless, futile, utterly, indescribably.

1432
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 26: Pathetic as organization has what ownership group who takes any

1433
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 26: pride in what they do can be just a tortically

1434
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 26: wretched for this long the list is endless of cheap decisions,

1435
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 26: bad decisions, and zero accountability. Mike and Duke, put your

1436
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 26: brown bag of shame on you. Guys are an embarrassment

1437
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 26: to the city.

1438
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 10: Tony.

1439
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 31: I heard you were chirping one of my buddies at

1440
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 31: the game. He was a section under your suite you're in.

1441
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 31: It's now been eight and fifty days since Center the

1442
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 31: Lady Musk. He's got it done as well, taking down

1443
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 31: the Lady Bearcats.

1444
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 17: So I mean that's a that's a city wide sweep.

1445
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 13: Xavier owns this city.

1446
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't terping anybody.

1447
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah don't. I don't believe that. Listen, you definitely were.

1448
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: There wasn't a point in the game where I had

1449
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: a where I had an opportunity to charp.

1450
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: That's the issue, and I.

1451
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 33: Just wanted to have a small input on crossdown shield out.

1452
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 33: I think my first ever game I sents. I'm set

1453
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 33: to ticket holder at fifth th Arena for Cincinnati, and

1454
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 33: I thought the crowd was just interesting to watch it.

1455
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 33: How it unholds much different than what we have at

1456
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 33: the third Arena. One of the things I noticed was

1457
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 33: the players zooing the sip them up. Jester and I

1458
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 33: looked at Patino from the E bench and he shot

1459
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 33: that down quite instantly.

1460
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 17: So I guess old things need to die.

1461
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: When you're winning the game, you can do whatever you want.

1462
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: I had none to say about that.

1463
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 31: Also a message to my fellow Xavier fans. Let's be

1464
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 31: the bigger fan base today. You know, when you're at

1465
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 31: the drive through picking up your lunch from that window

1466
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 31: and you see that UC grad passing you your burger,

1467
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 31: we don't have to rub it in their face.

1468
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, yeah, yeah, good news for the Bearcats

1469
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 2: a week.

1470
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 34: Guye in God's name, When you just pick up a

1471
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 34: first down in Buffalo territory five minutes and change to go?

1472
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 34: Are you throwing the football on first down? Run the ball,

1473
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 34: use some of that clock if nothing else, we could

1474
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 34: possibly get a field goal without that drive and plus

1475
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 34: to use some of the clock. But no, Zach Taylor.

1476
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 34: Once again, bad call in a crucial situation. Unbelievable, wasn't

1477
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 34: Zach bro I don't have as much. I don't have

1478
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 34: as much against how the offense was was called or

1479
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 34: ran yesterday. It was also the right play in the

1480
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 34: right look. It's just a bad result. So throw sometimes

1481
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:41,480
Speaker 34: that happened.

1482
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: Didn't get a grip on the ball. God made a

1483
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: good play on it.

1484
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: All right. We're out of time. Many that we did

1485
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 3: not get to today.

1486
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: I can imagine. I can imagine one segment when we return. Yeah, sure,

1487
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: Monday midday Quarterback. Thanks to CINTI shirts. Thanks for listening

1488
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: on the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 5: This is Football in the NATTI broughtch you in part

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 5: by blood Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,959
Speaker 5: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1492
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1493
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 2: One thing on the defense. I wanted to get to Austin.

1494
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: They went into yesterday's game. We had talked about the

1495
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: improved play of the defense. They essentially gave up twenty

1496
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. They played better against New England, played much

1497
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: better with the five turnovers against Baltimore, and I think

1498
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: they were I think gifted a couple things against Baltimore

1499
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: as well. Did yesterday erase the goodwill that you had

1500
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: seen over the last couple of games, or do you

1501
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: mark yesterday off as just a tougher matchup and you

1502
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: think this defense is still finding ways to improve or

1503
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: can improve.

1504
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would say they had goodwill

1505
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 3: to begin with. My whole point was, don't let a

1506
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 3: few games erase what you saw for the vast majority

1507
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 3: of this season, and considering the opponent and what they

1508
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: do well, their inability to scheme towards that I think

1509
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: is indicative of just how far away this defense is

1510
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 3: from being good. So no, I wouldn't say that I

1511
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 3: feel any better about them. I do think there are

1512
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: minimal signs of improvement. I continue to be impressed by

1513
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 3: Miles Murphy, by Joseph Osai. I think Demetrius Knight Junior

1514
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 3: has gotten a little bit better.

1515
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: Demitrius Knight Junior has the worst defensive grade of every

1516
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 2: linebacker in the NFL.

1517
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's getting better. I think. I think I

1518
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 3: think he's getting a little bit better. I need to

1519
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: keep watching it and go back through the tape.

1520
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, with those Barrett Carter leads

1521
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: all linebackers and yards allowed in coverage. Yeah, and orin

1522
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: Burke's has the worst coverage grade of every coverage grade

1523
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: of every linebacker in the NFL.

1524
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Barrett Carter is he's just not an NFL player.

1525
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: And you know, I remember I was doing the show

1526
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 3: producing the show last Friday where he was on with

1527
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: Box and Lap and it's just such an easy guy

1528
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: to root for and just like an awesome dude. And

1529
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 3: I really felt bad for him because he just doesn't

1530
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 3: seem like he's ready to play at this level and

1531
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 3: they're throwing him out there in a difficult situation. So

1532
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: I think there are minimal slight perhaps some improvements that

1533
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: are that have happened. But I don't know that it's

1534
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 3: anything that you really go into next year thinking like, yes, yes,

1535
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 3: this is the thing. Yeah. I think that's the hardest

1536
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: part is that.

1537
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: But I don't know that that's a fat Last year,

1538
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 2: though at the end of the year of Man the

1539
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 2: offense was so good, defense stinks, And here we are

1540
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: again having the exact same conversation.

1541
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: I remember last year there were two things defensively that

1542
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: we felt good about. It was Joseph Osai and Trey Hendrickson.

1543
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: I still feel fine about Osai, but like we.

1544
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Got any word on Troy yet. Doubtful noful.

1545
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 34: This week.

1546
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure Zach Zach talks at three o'clock today. I'm

1547
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: sure he'll tell us that Trey is not going to

1548
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: play this week. So I do think in a way

1549
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 3: it's a good thing. You find out what you have, Yeah,

1550
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: you know what you don't And it way too early,

1551
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 3: I think to have these conversations. But I do think

1552
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to really look long and hard and think, Okay,

1553
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 3: do we have linebackers that can play in this league?

1554
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 3: Or are we gonna have to go right back to

1555
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 3: the well on that. Yeah, that's all fair. Let's get

1556
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: one more phone call in here before the end of

1557
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 3: the hour.

1558
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: What's up, Brian, what's going on?

1559
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 17: How are you guys going?

1560
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: How are you?

1561
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 17: Oh, I'm doing well. China Park Place is not too

1562
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 17: whack of we First off, Javier fans, I didn't know

1563
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 17: there was in Philadelphia. I mean, they're just being so nasty.

1564
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 17: They're not relevant. You see, it's not relevant. Give me

1565
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 17: a break.

1566
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 10: Come on.

1567
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: It's a hard part because because whether nastally or not,

1568
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: you're now relevant in the city. If you're Xavier over

1569
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: UC for another season. That's the hard part.

1570
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 17: Oh whatever, they they could just kick as I mean.

1571
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 3: Come on, where are you at right now, Brian?

1572
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 17: I will I'm at a job site in the house

1573
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 17: is real echo.

1574
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: He's just a little equity. I'm just I'm just curious.

1575
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1576
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: Is that better?

1577
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 31: Yeah?

1578
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're good now.

1579
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 17: So first off, uh, so I can do for the

1580
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 17: Dagger fans come on?

1581
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 32: Uh?

1582
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 17: And also I was calling about the Begels game. I mean,

1583
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 17: what would a defensive end storm not like you just

1584
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 17: can't play Josh Allen that way.

1585
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: You just got to contain, got to break down and

1586
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: and like, what.

1587
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 17: Do we do it like how I mean, I would

1588
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 17: think that's like rule one O one when you're playing

1589
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 17: a mobile athletic quarterback, which Josh is. He's a big

1590
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 17: version of it. Got to keep it inside of it.

1591
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 17: You got to keep them inside. And I just don't

1592
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 17: understand that. And I think Joe that fire real Russ.

1593
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 17: I thought that play was brilliant. If it would all

1594
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 17: he would score a touchdown, it won't do to be

1595
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 17: so anybody think that wasn't the right checkdown by Joe.

1596
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 12: He just made a bad play, yep.

1597
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,759
Speaker 17: I mean, joys still are like, here's.

1598
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 12: No doubt about that.

1599
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 3: Brian.

1600
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, man, thank you, thank you. Yeah. For

1601
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: a second, I thought Brian might have been in like

1602
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: Maso's basement. I thought he was at the airport. I

1603
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: was worried about him and Maso getting together talking about

1604
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 2: the Muskies. Maso is he's in a bad way man.

1605
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just some of the texts that that you and

1606
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 3: I have received so far too like starting to I'm

1607
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 3: sorry to think about calling the police for our guy.

1608
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 3: Maso mayso belongs and it and I play I sub

1609
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: in occasionally on a on a Sunday basketball league. As

1610
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: if you see, losing wasn't bad enough for Maso, and

1611
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: then the Bengals losing. I didn't go to the game yesterday.

1612
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: Apparently they lost on a buzzer beater on pick up

1613
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: basketball on the Sunday League as well. So he's had

1614
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 2: a weekend. Man, he's had a weekend.

1615
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 3: Playing basketball on a Sunday is crazy.

1616
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a they they reached out and they said,

1617
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: can you make today's game? And I said what time

1618
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: is it? And they said noon? No it' said college

1619
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: football playoff and the Bengals start at one.

1620
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: Why do we do basketball at noon in the middle

1621
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: of football season? Correct?

1622
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,440
Speaker 2: Like chasing that chasing those titles, man, chasing championships.

1623
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: Get a job, enjoy your weekends off.

1624
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna Tommyville. Every day is Sunday like Tommy Tubberville. Yeah,

1625
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: and I should unbelievable. Yeah, we need more Tommy Tubberville's

1626
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: when it comes to this. I mean, this is the

1627
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: culture that tub Tubberville put in place for people like Maso.

1628
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Did you catch it all? I think it was out

1629
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 2: on Saturday morning. Moe's video recapping the shootout. No, Moe's

1630
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: just kind of laying on his desk, head down dejected.

1631
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: I did see he posted the cigar pick. He's got

1632
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: the cigar pick. I'm I'm heading out. I'm heading to Westchester.

1633
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to spend the next three hours, starting at

1634
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: three o'clock with MO. I can't wait to see. We

1635
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 2: will We'll talk Bengals, bills. We're also going to talk

1636
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: some college football, and MO promised we will spend time

1637
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: on the shootout as well. You'll have a Zach Taylor

1638
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: press conference that we're going to get to. But between

1639
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: now and then Austin, what's going to be happening.

1640
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't mean to like. I don't like making fun

1641
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 3: of MO. I don't like I don't want his teams

1642
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 3: to lose. But golly, what makes him great is he

1643
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: is so entertaining when they do.

1644
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be entertaining today. He's promised that we'll

1645
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: have fun. It will be That's all we can promise fun.

1646
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 2: What do you got coming up? I'll talk a little

1647
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: bit about the Bengals. I'll open up the phone lines.

1648
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 2: I have a few thoughts on the college football playoff

1649
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: as well, including when it comes to Notre Dame. What

1650
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: I like and dislike about what's going on there, plus

1651
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: what Zach Taylor said about that call that people are

1652
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: blaming him for, and what Joe Burrow said about the

1653
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: play that people are blaming him for, and really, where

1654
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: are we at and where are we going? That's a

1655
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 2: great question. These are the questions that need to be asked. Well,

1656
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: we got a lot to be answered, and Austin, we'll

1657
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: start with that next. On the Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN

1658
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1659
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 5: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

1660
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Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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1662
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1671
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Speaker 17: Hi.

1672
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome in final hour of Tony Pike's Monday midday

1673
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: Quarterback here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore, Tony

1674
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: on his way to Twin Peaks. He'll be talking there

1675
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 3: with Moe Egger Tony and Mo Football Show coming up

1676
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 3: this afternoon from three to six. You'll hear from head

1677
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 3: coach Zach Taylor. Will get updates on injuries and what

1678
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 3: the week is starting to look like as they get

1679
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 3: set for Baltimore, and all the stuff that Zach has

1680
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: learned since watching the film today that's coming up at

1681
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: the start of their show. If I'm not mistaken, you're

1682
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 3: gonna hear from Zach in just a minute too, just

1683
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 3: a quick blurb about what he said after the game,

1684
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 3: about the way the game went, how he feels about

1685
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: the team, and most notably the big interception by Buffalo

1686
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 3: that was returned for a touchdown and was a part

1687
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: of flipping the game on its head. I think we're

1688
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: making a little bit too much out of that play.

1689
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it coming up in just a minute.

1690
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: You'll hear what Joe Burrow had to say as well.

1691
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: Phone lines are open five point three seven four nine

1692
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty You can all so, tweeted me at Audie Elmore.

1693
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 3: That's a U T y E L m O r E.

1694
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull a page out of the moegg Or

1695
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 3: playbook here and say I'm gonna do something you're not

1696
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 3: supposed to do, which is start the hour with a

1697
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 3: phone call. I want to talk to Phil in Burlington,

1698
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,879
Speaker 3: who I'm told is on his way to the airport.

1699
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: Hello Phil, what's up? See the green oh red roses too?

1700
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 3: Sing it to me? Phil?

1701
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 12: You just won't fuck I go boo hoo?

1702
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 13: Can I say to myself?

1703
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 3: Yes, what a one?

1704
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 31: The oh?

1705
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1706
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 13: I meant to Colin earlier today, but day cool number

1707
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 13: two finally kicked in.

1708
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 10: So where we are?

1709
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 3: That was beautiful, Phil, great execution.

1710
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 12: Than you ask for the Bengals, You know, I just

1711
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 12: I refuse to give them any kind of emotional energy

1712
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 12: or financial energy while they insist on operating this team.

1713
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 19: The way they do, Like like, I'm sorry, al.

1714
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 13: Goldon might be a great defensive coordinator, but there's not

1715
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 13: an NFL coach alive.

1716
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 12: I can turn shoot and to shine and.

1717
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,959
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they're.

1718
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 12: Expecting this coaching staff to do.

1719
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like until I see.

1720
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 13: Some real operational changes in the front office, I'm happy

1721
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 13: when they win.

1722
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 3: I expect them to lose.

1723
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 12: And that's that state of affairs.

1724
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 3: No hold on Phil, now a couple of things like

1725
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 3: what okay, Phil? Hung up? I would love to pick

1726
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: his brain? Number one? Where's he going?

1727
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 17: Is he?

1728
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 3: Where's he flying out to? Number two? What exactly do

1729
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 3: the operational changes look like that you'd like to see.

1730
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: We talked extensively about some of the changes that they

1731
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: have made. I do think that at the end of

1732
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 3: the day, it boils down to they haven't hit on

1733
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 3: draft picks. They've hit on some. Chase Brown's a hit.

1734
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: It looks like DJ Turner is a hit. I think

1735
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Joseph Osai, Cedric Johnson, those guys as pieces are hits.

1736
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 3: Jordan Battle, I think there's still something there, but there

1737
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 3: hasn't been enough production right away. And the part that

1738
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 3: I feel the most as I look back on what

1739
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 3: happened yesterday and where this team is at, I can't

1740
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 3: help but think we're just kind of stuck in the mud.

1741
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 3: Doesn't it feel like they're stuck in the mud. I mean,

1742
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 3: I had retweeted this earlier. The Bengals are twenty two

1743
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 3: and twenty five since they lost the twenty twenty two

1744
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game. That twenty twenty two team was special, man.

1745
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 3: That was a really good dude, a really good group

1746
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: full of good dudes. And I do think that if

1747
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 3: they had went to the Super Bowl this year, I

1748
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 3: think they would have beat the Eagles in that game.

1749
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 3: I really do. But they didn't, and since then they've

1750
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 3: fallen off. And I get that. You know, you have

1751
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 3: to pay your quarterback and you pay your and I

1752
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 3: get all of that. But what the Bengals have done

1753
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 3: a good job of was executing what the plan was

1754
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 3: supposed to be after twenty twenty two to get to

1755
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 3: where they are now. I feel like on paper, it

1756
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: all made sense. Invest heavily in young players on defense,

1757
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 3: draft them, develop them, give them opportunities, and be ready

1758
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 3: to go so that you don't really skip a beat.

1759
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 3: Try to supplement them with some veterans like Sheldon Rankins,

1760
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 3: like TJ. Slayton, like Geno Stone. Get those guys in here,

1761
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 3: and just continue to kind of mix it all together.

1762
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 3: On paper, it makes sense, and financially they've set themselves

1763
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 3: up pretty well now. They waited too long on t

1764
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 3: and they waited too long on Jamar, but even then

1765
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: it is not as if they are in dire financial

1766
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 3: straits moving forward. It's like on paper the plan made sense,

1767
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 3: but they didn't execute it and Burrow got hurt again,

1768
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 3: and they didn't do enough to fix their offensive line

1769
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 3: that has been an issue repeatedly. Well, now it looks

1770
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 3: like Dylan Fairchild's going to be a hit in the draft.

1771
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 3: The Dalton Reisner signing worked out pretty well. Their offensive

1772
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 3: line right now is playing at a level we haven't

1773
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 3: seen in over a decade. That's how good they're playing.

1774
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 3: So there are little things you can point to and say, Okay,

1775
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 3: this is working, this is working. But there are one

1776
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 3: thing after another on the defensive side of the ball

1777
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: that you point to and said, this is not working.

1778
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 9: And so.

1779
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 3: The issue now becomes we have failed at our plan

1780
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 3: post big contract for the quarterback. How do we fix it?

1781
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 3: I remember we had this conversation a month or two

1782
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 3: ago where we asked Mo Tony, and I asked MO,

1783
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 3: if you could ask Duke Tobin any question, what would

1784
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: you ask him, and Mo said, why can't you fix this?

1785
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,919
Speaker 3: And that, to me is the question of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1786
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 3: Why can't you fix this? Why can't you fix what's

1787
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: going on on defense? Loui Anarrumo, you want to make

1788
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 3: him the scapegoat, that's fine. Why can't Al Golden fix it?

1789
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 3: Why can't you fix the way you draft players? Why

1790
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: can't you fix you know, missing on free agents like

1791
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins. Why can't you fix it? And how can

1792
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 3: you be trusted to fix it after the last three

1793
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 3: years have kind of blown up in your face? The

1794
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 3: game that happened yesterday is the epitome of who the

1795
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 3: Bengals are over the last couple of years. One play

1796
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 3: away from being in the playoffs or in an entirely

1797
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 3: different position and being in the midst of this run

1798
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 3: of the best football in the history of this franchise.

1799
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: But yet they don't make the play, they don't get

1800
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 3: the call, they don't get lucky, they don't finish the drive,

1801
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 3: they don't drop or they drop the interception, whatever it

1802
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 3: might be. They just can't get over that hump. And

1803
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 3: so the answer is, how do you fix it? What

1804
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 3: do you change? And that has to be the question

1805
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 3: inside the hallways at pay Core Stadium right now. There

1806
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 3: has to be an absolutely sick feeling in those rooms,

1807
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 3: in those conversations, because listen, I know a lot of

1808
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 3: Bengals fans just right off the Brown family and think

1809
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 3: that they are this stupid, arrogant bunch. I don't believe that.

1810
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I believe that everybody in this organization knows what they

1811
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, and I believe it sits very It

1812
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 3: does not sit well with anybody, from Zach Taylor to

1813
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 3: the equipment managers, to the cafeteria people, to the practice

1814
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 3: squad guys and everybody in between that you have an

1815
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 3: all time good quarterback, an all time great quarterback, and

1816
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 3: you're wasting his prime years.

1817
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 2: So how do you fix it?

1818
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 3: Is the question? Do you keep trying to do what

1819
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 3: you've been doing. I think they tried to pivot this year,

1820
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 3: which is okay, the Logan Wilson thing's not working, the

1821
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson thing's not working. Let's move on from Logan.

1822
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 3: Let's try to trade Trey. If not, Trey's not gonna play,

1823
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 3: Logan's not gonna play. We're gonna move away from these veterans.

1824
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna give these young guys. We're gonna try to

1825
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 3: develop him as fast as we can, especially if Burrow's

1826
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 3: not gonna be here. Okay? Is that a pivot? Okay?

1827
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 3: Is it a sustainable pivot? I don't know. I don't

1828
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: think so. So what's the move? Is the move to

1829
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 3: fire Zach Taylor? Is that going to fix those problems

1830
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 3: or is it going to create more? Is it gonna

1831
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 3: be to fire Al Golden? Is that going to fix

1832
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 3: the problems or is it going to create more like

1833
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 3: firing Luanna Rumo did. What's the answer. Is it expanding

1834
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 3: the personnel department? Is it investing more in analytics? Is

1835
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 3: it hiring new position coaches and the secondary?

1836
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 25: Is it?

1837
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, and there doesn't seem to be an

1838
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: obvious answer other than to me it is that you

1839
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 3: should can duke Tobin and completely redo the personnel department.

1840
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: Because if you are ever going to have a really

1841
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 3: good quarterback and you're going to pay your stars, and

1842
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals have done that, and I have no problem

1843
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: with them doing that, you have to have a very

1844
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 3: buttoned up, clean, nearly impossible to penetrate draft strategy and

1845
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: personnel strategy to supplement the spots on the roster, and

1846
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 3: you've got to have the right people in place to

1847
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 3: develop them. And the Bengals don't. That is why they

1848
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 3: are in the situation that they are in. And while

1849
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin does have some pelts on the wall, I

1850
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 3: don't know that there's a real reason to keep him.

1851
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 3: I mean, this is supposed to be the best era

1852
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: of Bengals football. This is supposed to be it. It's

1853
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: supposed to be happening right now, and yet they continue

1854
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 3: to embarrass themselves over and over and over again. And

1855
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was noteworthy the way that Paul Danner

1856
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 3: Junior described them today in the Athletic. I hadn't viewed

1857
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 3: him like this, but I think he's right. The Bengals

1858
01:40:54,200 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 3: are an irrelevant footnote to the National Football League. Is

1859
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 3: that what anybody wants to be is that what you

1860
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 3: want to be remembered by. If you're the Bengals, Duke

1861
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 3: Tobin exists. That position exists. He has his job so

1862
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 3: that now that you have the franchise quarterback, you build

1863
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 3: around him so that games like yesterday and countless others

1864
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 3: over the last three seasons stop happening. You have blamed

1865
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 3: youth and inexperience, you have blamed injury, you have blamed coaches.

1866
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 3: You have no one else to blame but the person

1867
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 3: putting the team together, and that's Duke Tobin. So to me,

1868
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 3: that's the only way you pivot or fix or change

1869
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 3: your shortcomings. But I don't think they're going to do

1870
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 3: it because they are resistant to change. There is a

1871
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 3: trust level with Duke Tobin. There are some pelts on

1872
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 3: the wall, and there is a belief that the guy

1873
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 3: who has been here for twenty years is going to

1874
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: somehow magically become an elite NFL executive. So I don't

1875
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 3: know where they go from here. I don't know how

1876
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 3: they fix it. I don't know how they should fix it.

1877
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 3: But more than anything, I feel myself mourning what was

1878
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 3: supposed to be two of the best years in franchise history,

1879
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 3: and instead they're two of the biggest question marks in

1880
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 3: franchise history, the biggest what ifs, the biggest if onlies,

1881
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 3: the biggest what abouts in the history of the franchise,

1882
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 3: and it's wearing on people. I think it's wearing on Joe,

1883
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: I think it's wearing on Jamar. We certainly know as

1884
01:42:55,160 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 3: fans it's wearing on us. This is a critical juncture

1885
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: for this franchise. And I still believe that it's not

1886
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 3: crazy that they make the playoffs this year. But that's

1887
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 3: kind of besides the point at this point, isn't it.

1888
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,919
Speaker 3: The point isn't that you're still alive for the playoffs.

1889
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 3: The point is you've screwed up so many times that

1890
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 3: you've backed yourself into a corner again and you've got

1891
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 3: to win out and get help to get in the

1892
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 3: playoffs as opposed to being the team that's in control

1893
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And how much are you gonna sit

1894
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 3: back and look at a playoff that doesn't feature Lamar

1895
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 3: Jackson and doesn't feature Patrick Mahomes and think, damn, that

1896
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 3: could have been us, This should have been us. Doesn't

1897
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 3: sit right with me. I hope they've come up with

1898
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 3: a plan to pivot because this is not working here.

1899
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 3: From Joe and Zach. Next, this is Monday Midday Quarterback

1900
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 5: Every Sport, every store, every angle, Moegar today at three

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01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 5: pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1903
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 3: At Penn Station the East Coast subs your Shawny Pike's

1904
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 3: Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore Sony

1905
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 3: and I talked about it a little bit earlier. Some

1906
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 3: are blaming the Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow for the loss,

1907
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 3: and I think that's fair. Joe, in a big moment,

1908
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 3: had a bad play and even though it was the

1909
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 3: right read and the right decision, it was poor execution.

1910
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 3: The ball kind of coming out of his hands, bad

1911
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 3: arm angle, kind of floated it up there, made for

1912
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 3: a good play by Benford who took it to the house,

1913
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 3: and Joe also wasn't able to make the tackle. I

1914
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 3: think it's fair to blame Joe Burrow for some of that.

1915
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 3: I think the second interception was entirely bad luck. It

1916
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 3: was a wide open play and a good play by

1917
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo got the arm up up and then the other

1918
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 3: dude just happened to be right there. It's unfortunate, but

1919
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 3: the reality of the way the Bengals are built is

1920
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow has to play perfect and that again

1921
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 3: is part of what the issue is. And going back

1922
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 3: to the previous segment, which is at times I feel

1923
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,560
Speaker 3: like it's wearing on Joe Burrow because to him. He

1924
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 3: has to be perfect almost every single time he takes

1925
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 3: the field. If not, they don't have a chance to win.

1926
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, think about that in your life, in your

1927
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 3: everyday job. If you are not perfect, you fail, and

1928
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 3: you are judged by your successes and your failures. Would

1929
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 3: you want to work like that? Would you want to

1930
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 3: work in a place like that? Earlier today, my mic

1931
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 3: wasn't working. I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

1932
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 3: But thanky, because I work in a profession in which

1933
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 3: Tony can do the show and pick up the slack

1934
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 3: and do all of that. In a situation in which

1935
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm not performing, the show goes on and we keep going. Meanwhile,

1936
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,839
Speaker 3: for Joe Burrow, he underperforms and all of a sudden,

1937
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 3: the season is basically over. You don't have a chance

1938
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 3: to play in the postseason. It's difficult, the game ends,

1939
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 3: you lose because of one mistake. And Joe is not

1940
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 3: going to play perfect football every time he takes the

1941
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 3: field from now until the end of time. He's just not.

1942
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Nobody does. Perfection is unattainable, breaking news. Write that down,

1943
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 3: and it sucks that the best player on the team

1944
01:46:55,880 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 3: had a bad moment, and it ultimately cost them the game. Now,

1945
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that pick six cost them nearly as

1946
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: much as the tip one that was not his fault,

1947
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 3: and then the defense just not playing defense. But it's

1948
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 3: a part of the story. Joe was asked about it

1949
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,440
Speaker 3: after the game. Here's three minutes, so the Bengals quarterback

1950
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 3: talking about the loss to Buffalo and those plays.

1951
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 6: That you're managed.

1952
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, great play, great plays by them.

1953
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 19: Corner blitz and you know, trying to throw a hot

1954
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 19: reaction and the guy jumps up and catches it.

1955
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 3: Great play.

1956
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 19: Next one tipball lands in the riding that guy's hands.

1957
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 19: So wow, Yeah, good place by Now.

1958
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 23: You feel like you guys were kind of playing the

1959
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 23: exact type of game you wanted to play before those two,

1960
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 23: like exactly how you would have scripted it out to

1961
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 23: God wins.

1962
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, we were playing pretty good. We were playing pretty good.

1963
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 19: You know, we gotta we gotta turn over the red zone.

1964
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 19: We spout it on a couple of drives, but for

1965
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 19: the most part, we were moving it pretty good.

1966
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 3: We were in a good spot.

1967
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 2: Was that first half especially down perspected and how did

1968
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: you walk out the fields?

1969
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 19: One way was going through your mind. Yeah, we were executing.

1970
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 19: We were executing lamas protecting, we were making plays.

1971
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 21: You know, we d we were doing a good.

1972
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 34: Job differently on that.

1973
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 19: Denver could have thrown it higher, I guess, but the

1974
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 19: linebacker was running out there underneath of it, So if

1975
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 19: I threw it higher, he might've gotten involved to Not

1976
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 19: really that was our reaction to.

1977
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 4: That is just one of those games.

1978
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 13: It did have the playoff game with the team that

1979
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 13: just was able.

1980
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 2: To name a couple of those players were got of

1981
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 2: laying doing that all down stretch.

1982
01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:00,560
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know it was playoff playoff atmosphere. We know

1983
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 19: what kind of game it was for us, did them too?

1984
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 12: And then?

1985
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it was just it was intense out there.

1986
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 19: Guys were fighting their butts off.

1987
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 3: Those would do anything different.

1988
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: Uh did all than what you.

1989
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 8: Saw a film this week.

1990
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 19: They always do do things a little different against us. Uh,

1991
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 19: but that's what we expected. They were mixing a lot

1992
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 19: of things up. They started pressure more in the second half.

1993
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 19: I thought we handled it well. Wh Yeah, we we

1994
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 19: kind of we knew what to expect. We knew how

1995
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 19: they liked to play us from from past meetings, and

1996
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 19: uh we had the answers.

1997
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: Were you Bobby hard for his team to resign, to

1998
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 2: get in from your mission to your office that you

1999
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 2: honestly you didn't and much opportunity to see how it

2000
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: all looked.

2001
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 15: Is this like what you would vision the type of

2002
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 15: office that you guys could be, and the type of

2003
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 15: outfit that you would be.

2004
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 17: To an opponent?

2005
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 8: When you guys girl.

2006
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 31: Living like you did today?

2007
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know, we know what we can be.

2008
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 19: We know what we can do and when we execute,

2009
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 19: and we're able to execute today for the most part.

2010
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 12: And thanks.

2011
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 10: Gotta do more.

2012
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,799
Speaker 2: Going forward, Joe, last four games?

2013
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 31: Your mental outlet?

2014
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: How did you approach last morname?

2015
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 19: Just go and play well, Go have fun, play football.

2016
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 19: That's what I love to do. So so I'm gonna

2017
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 19: keep doing I'm gonna keep doing it at a high level.

2018
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 3: Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow Joe often posting on Instagram after

2019
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 3: games with a caption with normally a bit of a

2020
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 3: message about what happened. He posted the pictures of him

2021
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 3: playing in the snow and walking in no caption. For

2022
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: the Bengals quarterback, he finished twenty five of thirty six

2023
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,520
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty four yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions.

2024
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 3: He was sacked just once on the day. Here from

2025
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor in just a minute. But at first, let's

2026
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 3: go to Jay in Cincinnati. He's on the line. What's up, Jay?

2027
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 34: It was up?

2028
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my car. You know, when Joe Burrow

2029
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 12: left the Bengals, they were two and oh or three

2030
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 12: or or whatever. When he comes back, there was a

2031
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 12: pure disaster. And he shouldn't take this loss hard because

2032
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 12: he did everything he could possibly do to win that

2033
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 12: game yesterday. Now he can't play defense.

2034
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 25: He can't.

2035
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 12: He can't play defense. When you send the guy in

2036
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 12: motion in your corner blitzes and leaves the area uncovered,

2037
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 12: he can't cover over there for him, you know. Sometimes

2038
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,919
Speaker 12: you know, they got the man up and thanks football

2039
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 12: out there. You know, he can't be all reactionary. They

2040
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 12: sent Cook to the right side and then left the

2041
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 12: whole week sat open and he comes right back up

2042
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 12: under it and nobody's there, you know, So they got

2043
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 12: to think out there sometimes, and some of their players

2044
01:51:58,640 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 12: out there.

2045
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:00,799
Speaker 13: Was just off defense.

2046
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 12: I mean, like a quick hitter to the tight end,

2047
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 12: And why do so many linebackers bite early on a

2048
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 12: fake like that and come up and then they go

2049
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 12: right behind him. I mean, at some points you got

2050
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 12: to say, well, we got to thank football sometimes, you know,

2051
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 12: just despicable, you know. And I feel for Joe Man.

2052
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 12: I guy, you know, he's a difference maker. And what

2053
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 12: he did yesterday, Joe that had he been there a

2054
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 12: whole year, this team was in in the right direction.

2055
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 12: So but tell Joe be don't take it too Thanks

2056
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 12: for taking my college.

2057
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 3: Jay. Thanks for the call, man, I appreciate you. Yeah,

2058
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 3: it's exactly right. I mean, if he were here all year,

2059
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 3: I think they're probably gonna playoff position right now. I

2060
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 3: think they're probably about to clinch the AFC North with

2061
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 3: the victory over Baltimore. That would be my guess as

2062
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 3: to what would be happening. But he wasn't, And you know,

2063
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 3: I hope that that, you know, to to Jay's point,

2064
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 3: he's not taking it too hard and he is just

2065
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 3: trying to focus on having fun playing football, because it's

2066
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 3: kind of all you can focus on at this point.

2067
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 3: It's just a shame that this is where we're at.

2068
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 3: And I think the exact quote from Joe yesterday was

2069
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 3: four and nine is not where we want to be

2070
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 3: as a team, and not where we want to be

2071
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 3: as an organization. The fact that he said organization I

2072
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 3: find interesting. I wonder around this time last year is

2073
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 3: when he started putting some pressure on the organization. I

2074
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 3: wonder if we start hearing some of that again as

2075
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 3: we go into the offseason from one Joe Burrow. After

2076
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 3: the game, Zach Taylor also talked here's two minutes of

2077
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: the Bengals head coach about what happened, what went wrong,

2078
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 3: and where they go from here.

2079
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 35: You know, I thought they made some ployees. They made

2080
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 35: more than us down the stretch, and that was the

2081
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 35: difference in the game. And two good, two really good teams.

2082
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 35: It's a hard four football game.

2083
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 2: We just we came up short, and it's it's this point.

2084
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 2: What did you see in the class room that they have?

2085
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 35: Yeah, we scrambled through and and again he's he finally

2086
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 35: laying in the pocket and guys were matching the coverage

2087
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 35: and he kind of waited to make one, missing it

2088
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 35: the first time.

2089
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 6: Paid the big six?

2090
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 2: Is that something that on that play is something that

2091
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: you're nervous about more combing off the edge.

2092
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 12: Of the game.

2093
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 35: Just to make sense, it's kind of for the corner

2094
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 35: coming off the edge, and he made a great player

2095
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 35: he had gliderannus Uh, It's very rare that you see

2096
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 35: a guy have that awareness the way that we were

2097
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 35: attacking there and make a play like that.

2098
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 2: So Ben for great play, great play by.

2099
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 14: Hid What did you shoot that?

2100
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 31: Sorre top docrection, most like that for the team.

2101
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 2: Just keep picking each other up.

2102
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 17: It was.

2103
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: It was a hard off our game. We had our moments,

2104
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 2: they had a couple more.

2105
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 35: Still believe in these guys and and again we're gonna

2106
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 35: have to I know we're up against the wall here

2107
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 35: with with whatever our opportunities are. But we got a

2108
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 35: big home game this week and the divisions. We got

2109
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 35: to be able to pick ourselves up and find a

2110
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 35: way to go respond.

2111
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 34: How do you feel like you play and give the

2112
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 34: condition how what.

2113
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 35: The challenge was that to try to I think both teams,

2114
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 35: you know teams, it's gonna be a challenge in the

2115
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 35: elements and handled it well. You know, I thought our

2116
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 35: defense came up big with the turnover on the goal line.

2117
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 35: There was kind of gonna be an opportunistic red zone game.

2118
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 35: We felt like held him to three early on, which

2119
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 35: we had talked about was going to keep pointing the game,

2120
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 35: keeping four points off the board. They got the turnover,

2121
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 35: tried to get another one almost that we challenged. So again,

2122
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 35: these are things we talked about. We knew it was

2123
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 35: explosive offense. They're capable of scoring forty points. Again, that's

2124
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 35: what they do to people, and so you know it's

2125
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 35: just that they got us there in the fourth quarter.

2126
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 14: The pick six.

2127
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 3: You guys are driving, they try to kind of media

2128
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 3: a double vision. Did you feel like you had the

2129
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 3: game playing in the way you wanted.

2130
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 17: To in that moment before.

2131
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 35: Those two days, Yeah, we're in a great spot and

2132
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 35: I thought, you know, forty seven just made an outstanding play.

2133
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 35: That's a big time playing this league. He's playing with

2134
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 35: a lot of confidence. You don't see a lot of

2135
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 35: guys be able to make that, and he did it.

2136
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: And credit to him.

2137
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 3: That is Bengals head coach Zach Taylor. Yeah, the defense.

2138
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 3: You know, I advocated for firing Duke Tobin in the

2139
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 3: last segment. I'm also over al Golden. I said it

2140
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 3: from the very beginning. This is a guy who third

2141
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 3: down with the game on the line in the National

2142
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 3: Championship Game, went one on one with the best player

2143
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: in the country and lost because of it. I saw

2144
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 3: some better things over the last couple of weeks, but

2145
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 3: the rules of engagement when it comes to defending Josh

2146
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 3: Allen are not difficult to find. He hadn't rushed for

2147
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 3: over fifty yards on anybody this season. And for them

2148
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 3: to put together the game plan they did, and the

2149
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 3: play calls and the blitzes and the man coverage and

2150
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 3: the rush lanes and the stunts that just really played

2151
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 3: into the hand of Josh Allen I thought was absolutely

2152
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 3: embarrassing and awful by the Bengals defensive coordinator. I have

2153
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 3: no faith in Al Golden moving forward. Got time for

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Speaker 3: one more phone call. Let's go to Brian in Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Brian?

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01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 13: Hey, how are you doing?

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01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 3: Good man? What's on your mind?

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 10: Hey?

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01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 36: You kind of stole my thunder there a little bit?

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01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 36: Uh with the uh with Al Golden, I thought the

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 36: two biggest plays in the game was that fourth down. UH,

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01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 36: when they got that touchdown where he decides not to

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01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 36: blitz and leaves like Allen with like ten seconds to

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01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 36: throw and find anybody who wants in the end zone.

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Speaker 36: I mean a guy like Alan that has a cannon,

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01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 36: I mean he's gonna be available.

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01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 12: I mean, you can't cover.

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Speaker 10: Everybody for ten seconds, sure, Uh, no matter who you are.

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Speaker 12: And and and for them to say, well.

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Speaker 13: We did we a player should have made a play.

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Speaker 36: Well you should know your personnel. They're not very good

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Speaker 36: at rush of the passer.

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Speaker 10: So you need some help.

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Speaker 36: Uh, you need you need a little bit of creativity

2175
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 36: in that spot, which you know, last couple of weeks

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01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 36: I was kind of impressed by he actually figured out

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Speaker 36: what a blitz was, which which was a positive step forward.

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Speaker 36: But then but then we we we are up the

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01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 36: only thing possible that can happen with you know, like

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01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 36: exposed to play and Alan runs for like however long touchdown?

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01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 36: How do we not have a spy on that? And

2182
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 36: like especially in a snow game, whereas receivers can't get open,

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01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 36: they're not very good. The only supposed to play they're

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01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 36: gonna get is either a pass interference or Alan running

2185
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 36: the ball.

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01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 13: And we don't spy.

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01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 36: We're playing man coverage where nobody is even close to

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01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 36: Alan or looking at Alan.

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01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 32: Uh.

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Speaker 36: And and this just goes along with you know, pretty

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Speaker 36: much the whole year. I mean, and no matter how

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Speaker 36: bad our linebackers are and our defensive line, you know,

2193
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 36: our coach isn't helping them by putting them in the

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01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 36: best situation possible either by you know, kind of exposing them.

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01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 36: I don't know if that's on purpose. Maybe he's like

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01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 36: showing the front office, like, look what you gave me,

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Speaker 36: so to speak.

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Speaker 12: But I'm not impressed.

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Speaker 36: You know, actually for all the people that you know,

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01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 36: we're one ando gone. I think Amo is probably you know,

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Speaker 36: kind of laughing pretty hard right now. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 36: they they need this defense in particular with the lack

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Speaker 36: of personnel they have.

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01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 12: They need somebody that that can adjust. It doesn't have

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01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 12: to have the you know.

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Speaker 36: The best defenders at every position to be able to

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01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 36: go because you know, Al Golden likes to play finally,

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01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 36: like to play man and man.

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Speaker 10: You gotta have players to be able to do that.

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Speaker 36: Yeah, you gotta have a defensive line that actually can pressure.

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01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 36: You're not you know, your your corner is originally gonna

2212
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 36: expose of your their quarterback sitting back there for five seconds.

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Speaker 36: I mean I was actually encouraged because against Lamari actually

2214
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 36: had a good game plan.

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01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 12: Like we've played, did't give much time.

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Speaker 36: My biggest thing with Allen was about the same blitch

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01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 36: your athletic guys that are fast, spy make him make

2218
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 36: a quick decision, you know, if he sits back there

2219
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 36: and play his backyard.

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Speaker 3: And Brian, thank you for the phone. Come up against

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Speaker 3: the clock here exactly right. I mean, you outlined a

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02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that I agree with. It's just they're

2223
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 3: in a dark place on defense right now, and nothing

2224
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 3: seems to really fit neither. None of the pieces really

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Speaker 3: seem to fit one another. Take a break, We'll be back,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: back on time, this is a touch and go, a

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Speaker 3: Mo Tony and Mo Football Show three to six. Tony

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Speaker 3: and Moe joined me for quick hits next right here

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Speaker 24: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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Speaker 20: Since there.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for Mo, how about this big new fancy

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Speaker 3: intro for quick Hits Tony and Mo Football show coming up,

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Speaker 3: Tony and Moe joining us.

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Speaker 16: Now, Hello boys, I just wish the Open had Locks

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Speaker 16: of the Night on it. Yep, yeah, yeah, take what

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Speaker 16: we can get, though, Yeah, I mean, I mean.

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Speaker 3: We're obviously already suffering from a tough weekend, and then

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02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 3: to add that on. I wasn't expecting on a Monday.

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Speaker 4: That we're going to have the College Football Playoff, We're

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Speaker 4: going to have the Liberty Bowl, We're going to have

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Speaker 4: the NFL Playoffs. Without Locks of the Night and without

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Speaker 4: the Bengals is frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. Let's start with Friday Night the

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Speaker 3: Cross Town. Okay, I thought winners went first.

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Speaker 4: Great year.

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Speaker 3: I thought winners went first. I was gonna ask about

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Speaker 3: the Musketeers, congratulations to them. The story of Friday Night

2258
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 3: was Trey Carroll. And we'll talk about how the Bearcats

2259
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 3: didn't defend him, but the story of Friday Night was

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Speaker 3: Trey Carroll. That game has a tendency to make heroes

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Speaker 3: over the last thirty years, there have been more heroes

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02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 3: in Xavier uniforms than Cincinnati uniforms. And I think the

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Speaker 3: real story is how Richard Patino has taken a team

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Speaker 3: that I wasn't sure if they beat anybody they had

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Speaker 3: in the coming weeks, not just Cincinnati but West Virginia, Georgia.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at that team going can they avoid a

2267
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,839
Speaker 4: last place finish in the Big East? And look, their

2268
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:36,960
Speaker 4: talent isn't what it's going to need to be at

2269
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 4: Xavier long term, but they're responding to that coach. They've

2270
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Speaker 4: improved dramatically collectively, and I think it's fun to think

2271
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Speaker 4: about where that team may be in a month or two.

2272
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Speaker 4: There are a lot of winnable games in the Big East.

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Speaker 4: Yukon's awesome, Saint John's is good. I'm not sure who

2274
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 4: else in the conference is really good. But the story

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Speaker 4: on Friday night for me, on an individual basis, was

2276
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Speaker 4: Trey Carroll and then just how far that Xavier team

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Speaker 4: has come in a very short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think the more talented roster

2279
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 2: overall won the game, but that's not been the case

2280
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Speaker 2: in the shootout for quite some time. I think the

2281
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 2: team that executed better won the basketball game, and it

2282
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 2: looks to make no mistake about it. Richard Patinomo gave

2283
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 2: the ball to Trey Carroll in advantageous situations. You and

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Speaker 2: I mentioned during the game. Seanna Bive had a great

2285
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Speaker 2: first half. I don't really remember him getting a good

2286
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 2: look in the second half. You got guys that are

2287
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 2: running hot, find a way to get him more touches.

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02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 2: It felt like a microcosm of every shootout that I've

2289
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Speaker 2: watched at the Cintas Center since two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: Bengals lose to the Bills. Two difficult plays for the

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02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 3: Bengals offense, both really good plays by the Bills defense.

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Speaker 3: Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 14: We're on to Baltimore, talk ourselves into eight and nine,

2294
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Speaker 14: finishing four and oh, eight and nine, Pittsburgh finishing one

2295
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 14: to three, and the Ravens finishing two and two.

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Speaker 13: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was thinking about this and getting getting

2298
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 4: ready for the show today. So there were there was

2299
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,839
Speaker 4: a familiar script, which is Bengals defense can't get stops

2300
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 4: when it needs to, and then there was the new script,

2301
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Speaker 4: which was Joe Burrow commits a terrible mistake in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter, but like, there's no take. Okay, is Joe

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02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 4: Burrow all of a sudden bad, Well, he didn't watch

2304
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 4: the first half. If you think that, like, okay, Joe

2305
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 4: Burrow made a miss, there's there's no then what right? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Great players have bad moments. Joe unfortunately had one with

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Speaker 4: his team up three in the fourth quarter. And then

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Speaker 4: the other part of it, like what else new can

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Speaker 4: we say about this defense? I'll try, but like they're

2310
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Speaker 4: historically bad against tight ends. They were bad against tight

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Speaker 4: ends yesterday. When they have been needed to make a play,

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Speaker 4: whether it's been with the lead, whether it's been facing

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Speaker 4: a deficit. When Al Golden's unit has been needed to

2314
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 4: make a play, it hasn't going back to week two

2315
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 4: and changed it. So that's the thing, Like where do

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02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 4: we go from here? Well, if you want this to

2317
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 4: be just destroyed Joe Burrow and be me, Joe Burrow's

2318
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 4: bailed this team. And there's no real new ground to

2319
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Speaker 4: cover when it comes to the defense, because what we

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Speaker 4: saw is the.

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Speaker 2: Same conversation remains to say. If the Bengals have to win,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow has to be perfect. That's a lot to

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Speaker 2: put on a quarterback's plate. They had opportunities. I got

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Speaker 2: the ball back before the half, Orlando Brown Junior misses

2325
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Speaker 2: a corner blitz coming off the edge, sacked Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: That was an opportunity. I'm at the point with the defense.

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Speaker 2: It's the first thing I said to Mo today. I'm

2328
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Speaker 2: at the point with the defense. I'm not even asking

2329
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Speaker 2: for stops. Can you just not give up touchdown drives

2330
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Speaker 2: in a minute to eleven seconds in the fourth quarter?

2331
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Speaker 2: Can you just make four and a half minutes go

2332
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Speaker 2: on the clock? By the way, Greg GOLs had made

2333
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Speaker 2: the point during the game, it's a it's a Bills

2334
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 2: team void of deep threats, right, So you're okay, just

2335
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Speaker 2: just play coverage and let him dink and dunk here

2336
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 2: for four or five minutes and then and then play

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02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 2: red zone defense instead. You give up big play after

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02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 2: big play going into the game. If we talked right

2339
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 2: before the game, what are the two things that Buffalo's

2340
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Speaker 2: gonna try to do on offense? They're gonna highlight their

2341
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Speaker 2: tight ends and Josh Allen in the running game. Bengals

2342
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 2: should have known that because everyone else in the world

2343
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 2: knew that, and that's how they got beat. It's maddening,

2344
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Speaker 2: it's frustrating, but unfortunately it's nothing we've not.

2345
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Speaker 3: Talked about before on this show. In thirty seconds, your

2346
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 3: thoughts on the college football playoff bracket.

2347
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Speaker 2: I think the storyline outside of the bracket is the

2348
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Speaker 2: matchup between Tysonvites three to three to five defense and

2349
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Speaker 2: Navy without ken Neamatalolo and their ability to run the ball.

2350
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Speaker 2: That's an early bowl matchup that I think everyone is

2351
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 2: on the lookout for. Outside of that, it's always gonna

2352
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 2: be flawed. People are always gonna be upset. Kirk kurve

2353
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,520
Speaker 2: Street last night saying maybe you should go to sixteen team.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to go to sixteen. Everyone's gonna be upset.

2355
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Austin hit it earlier. The best twelve teams in the

2356
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Speaker 2: country aren't playing in the college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: The best what it is, but the best fourteen teams

2358
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 4: don't always play in the NFL playoffs, right, We like

2359
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 4: this as new The Bengals make it at eight to

2360
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 4: nine and win the division and host the playoff game,

2361
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Speaker 4: Are they one of the best seven teams in the AFC? No,

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Speaker 4: So it's never playoffs have never been about who the

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Speaker 4: best is. I'll say this though, the four first round matchups,

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Speaker 4: maybe because we have rematches Alabama Oklahoma may be fun.

2365
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm not sure any of those games.

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Speaker 16: Really do it for me.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 3: Tulane is good.

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Speaker 4: I think Tulane can compete with old Miss. Coaching situation

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Speaker 4: there makes that game fascinating.

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Speaker 2: But can any of the four first round matchups challenge

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Speaker 2: any of the four top seats?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, which is odd because last

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Speaker 2: year none of the bye teams won.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just what I love most about this is we're

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Speaker 4: complaining about the committee. For years, all I heard was

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Speaker 4: we can't let computers pick the best teams. Now we

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Speaker 4: want computers to pick the best team. If this was

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Speaker 4: a four team it'd be easy this year. Yeah, very

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Speaker 4: it'd be the most. I also don't blame Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: for saying it to one of.

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Speaker 3: Those stupid bowls. I agree, I agree. I thought that

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Speaker 3: was the right move. To and MO Football Show coming

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Speaker 3: up three to six this afternoon. Thanks boys, We'll be listening.

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Speaker 3: That is at Twin Peaks, Tony and Mo. They are next.

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