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Speaker 2: WLW Welcome in on a Friday night where we got
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Speaker 2: I'm Lance McAllister. If you can't tell I am fired
Speaker 2: up for what is about to unfold. We've got so
Speaker 2: much to get to. What do you say? I take
Speaker 2: care of some headlines that we can go. We start
Speaker 2: with the Bengals. Player personnel director Duke Tobin met with
Speaker 2: the media today armed with a note. Paddy spoke for
Speaker 2: just over an hour. Reaction from beat writer Mike Petrolia
Speaker 2: trags coming up at six point twenty, and then your
Speaker 2: reaction after that. NFL playoffs kick off this weekend six
Speaker 2: wildcard games. The Browns have requested an interview with Argers
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Jesse Minter for their head coaching job. He's
Speaker 2: the son of the former UC coach Rick Minter. The
Speaker 2: Browns interviewed Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher earlier today. The
Speaker 2: Ravens interviewed former Browns coach Kevin Stefanski today for their
Speaker 2: head coaching opening. He'll be acquiziting all this a little
Speaker 2: bit later. On college football playoff semi final action Tonight,
Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon in the Peach Bowl from Atlanta, kickoff
Speaker 2: seven point thirty on ESPN fifteen to thirty. How about
Speaker 2: that game last night? Holy Cal Four Bearcats get invited
Speaker 2: to the NFL scouting Combine tight end Joe Royer, defensive
Speaker 2: tackle Dante Corleone, linebacker Jake Golday, wide receiver Jeff Caldwell.
Speaker 2: How about this note from Justin Williams of the Athletic
Speaker 2: Brendan sooresby former UC quarterback Owes. You see one million
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Speaker 2: this week he signed with Texas Tech for a deal
Speaker 2: reportedly worth summer in the neighborhood of five to five
Speaker 2: plus million dollars. College basketball Tonight, the NKAU Norris on
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Speaker 2: league action. Jim Kelch and Rick Brewering have it at
Speaker 2: eight on ESPN fifteen thirty. Miami tries to get the
Speaker 2: seventeen to oh Travis Steele's RedHawks are at Toledo, the
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty first meeting between the two programs.
Speaker 2: Miami one of just six teams still undefeated in the country.
Speaker 2: Wright State is at Detroit Mercy. More on the college
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Speaker 2: Later on in hockey, the Cyclone skating at Fort Wayne tonight.
Speaker 2: All right, the story of today is Duke Tobin. Trags
Speaker 2: is gonna check in with reaction in about nine minutes.
Speaker 2: Let me give you the setup to this, maybe an
Speaker 2: appetizer for our conversation. Here's about a two minute we'll
Speaker 2: call it the two minute drill. But Duke Tobin part
Speaker 2: of his opening comments today here is Duke.
Speaker 6: It goes without saying, this season is not what we expect,
Speaker 6: certainly not what we will accept. And everybody here knows
Speaker 6: that it was frustrating, it was challenging, it was disappointing
Speaker 6: for all of us, but more importantly, it was all
Speaker 6: those things for our fans. We feel that that weighs
Speaker 6: on us. It hurts us because we know that they
Speaker 6: have high expectations for us. We embrace those high expectations.
Speaker 6: Believe me, we have high expectations for this football team
Speaker 6: as well. We didn't meet those expectations. The group we
Speaker 6: put out there did not fulfill those expectations.
Speaker 2: So it motivates us.
Speaker 6: It really motivates us to be better, to put a
Speaker 6: group out there that will make the city proud, that
Speaker 6: will finish games. We have a lot of work to
Speaker 6: do this offseason. We are aware of that. We're motivated
Speaker 6: for it, we're excited about it. We have a football
Speaker 6: team that has some challenges that we've got to solve,
Speaker 6: But beyond that, we have a football team that has
Speaker 6: a lot of positives to build on and a lot
Speaker 6: of things we're proud of and a lot of reasons
Speaker 6: for optimism. So those are things that we're excited about.
Speaker 6: We just have to this offseason. It's going to be
Speaker 6: all about the who's doing it, the what they're doing,
Speaker 6: and how they're doing it. That's the focus. I really
Speaker 6: believe in the group that we have here. I've been
Speaker 6: here a long time. I don't take this job lightly.
Speaker 6: I don't take it for granted. It's the only job
Speaker 6: I've wanted. It's what I've chosen to do with my life.
Speaker 6: This team is part of my fabric I wake up
Speaker 6: with the singular focus of how to make this team better.
Speaker 7: It's what I do.
Speaker 6: It's a part of who I am in the city
Speaker 6: that is my home. It hurts when we're not representing
Speaker 6: the city the way that we need to. I think
Speaker 6: we're capable of it. I'm confident. I think there's great
Speaker 6: days ahead for our football team. There's a lot of
Speaker 6: work to do. We're motivated to do it, We're excited
Speaker 6: to be here.
Speaker 7: To do it.
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin earlier today opening comments, I saved you having
Speaker 2: to listen to him. Patty's players on the back for
Speaker 2: the energy in which they played with and how engaged
Speaker 2: they were once they were eliminated from the playoffs, which
Speaker 2: I just I simply do not understand how that has
Speaker 2: become a go to for so many coaches, managers, and
Speaker 2: executives in this city, applauding their players for playing hard.
Speaker 2: The only time the effort should be mentioned is when
Speaker 2: it's lacking. I just don't get it. It's just the
Speaker 2: start of getting me fired up tonight. Up next Trags
Speaker 2: checks in, I'll ask him what he made of today,
Speaker 2: the things that stuck out in his mind, and then
Speaker 2: I'll get your reaction around the corner. Hey, thanks for
Speaker 2: being here. The weekend is here. We made it to
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Speaker 2: My first guest covers the Bengals for CLNS. See with
Speaker 2: they dot com, host of the Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube.
Speaker 2: He's already dropped today's latest episode. It's an excellent listen.
Speaker 2: That would be the man we call Trags. Mike Petrolia. Mike,
Speaker 2: you were there. Let's start broad and then we'll narrow
Speaker 2: it down. Give us your general reaction to the sixty
Speaker 2: three minutes or so with Duke Tobin.
Speaker 8: Wow, that's a loaded question, Lamb. Well, I guess my
Speaker 8: general reaction is good on the Bengals to make him available.
Speaker 8: It was a very performative and perfunctory press conference.
Speaker 2: What do I mean by that?
Speaker 7: I think it was there.
Speaker 8: I think it was held so that Duke Tobin could
Speaker 8: show his faith on behalf of the front office and
Speaker 8: ownership and give their perspective on what happened this past year.
Speaker 8: It was also a pr ploy and an intelligent pr
Speaker 8: ploy to offer some sympathy to the incredibly frustrated fan base.
Speaker 8: That is why you heard Duke Tobin say multiple times
Speaker 8: that they are disheartened by Bengal fans being disheartened and
Speaker 8: that they are all about trying to change the narrative
Speaker 8: by dedicating themselves to improving the roster this offseason. But
Speaker 8: when it comes to the nuts and bolts, the x's
Speaker 8: and o's of how they're going to go about it,
Speaker 8: the people making those decisions aren't going to change. You're
Speaker 8: not going to have any additions to the scouting department,
Speaker 8: You're not going to have any additions to the Pro
Speaker 8: Football operations staff, the one that does the evaluations in
Speaker 8: free agency, for instance, Duke Tobin is not going to
Speaker 8: hire an assistant or two to help him evaluate talent.
Speaker 2: Going to do that.
Speaker 8: And what I was left with is feeling like, well,
Speaker 8: they're just going to run it back with the same people.
Speaker 8: And at the very end of the sixty three minutes,
Speaker 8: we got an insight to what he meant by that,
Speaker 8: and that is that the technique of what they do.
Speaker 8: This offseason is going to be a little bit different,
Speaker 8: meaning the personnel and the scouting department are going to
Speaker 8: try and tweak what they do. The coaching staff is
Speaker 8: going to come back with different schemes, and there's going
Speaker 8: to be a little bit of emphasis on the players
Speaker 8: to do their jobs better. That's what I was left
Speaker 8: with in tragues.
Speaker 2: When it comes to why we should believe they can
Speaker 2: fix this, the go to answer seems to be because
Speaker 2: we've done it before, and I think that weaves a
Speaker 2: lot of fans shaking their hands. Well, year's why it does.
Speaker 8: What happened in nineteen eighty one, what happened in nineteen
Speaker 8: eighty eight? What has happened so far after twenty twenty one?
Speaker 8: All three of those years that I just mentioned, of
Speaker 8: course were Super Bowl years. Well, within three years the
Speaker 8: team was headed down the slide to oblivion. Now in
Speaker 8: eighty eight they made it back after seven years and fine,
Speaker 8: But in three more years after eighty eight, what happened?
Speaker 8: They went into the dark, dark ages of Bengal football
Speaker 8: and they've been to the playoffs lance twice in ten years.
Speaker 8: Skinny on my podcast also mentioned that, and he was
Speaker 8: the one who asked Duke today, Well, you've been to
Speaker 8: the playoffs just twice in ten years. Why should any
Speaker 8: fan believe that you're capable of turning things around you
Speaker 8: and your staff? And Duke again came back with the answer,
Speaker 8: We've done it before. I believe in the p people
Speaker 8: we have in the building. Well, you may believe in
Speaker 8: the people you have in your building, but your fan
Speaker 8: base doesn't and the results aren't there. And he mentioned
Speaker 8: many times today Lance that the effort and the dedication
Speaker 8: of the coaching staff and the young players is exceptional. Well,
Speaker 8: that's great, and you see improvement in the young players terrific.
Speaker 8: Where's the production and the NFL, as is any major
Speaker 8: league sport, professional sport, it's all about production, and the
Speaker 8: Bengals production the last three years has been very poor.
Speaker 8: Last year they had a winning record, but they were
Speaker 8: nine and eight, Lance, they were four and eight with
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow starting all twelve of those games, and of
Speaker 8: course he started all seventeen. There's a serious fundamental flaw
Speaker 8: in the players that are being put around Joe Burrow,
Speaker 8: certainly on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: And you alluded to the scale outing aspect of all
Speaker 2: this and he really doubled down on the fact that
Speaker 2: despite we all know how small the department is, his
Speaker 2: belief that they have all the information they need.
Speaker 8: They believe that they would rather have fewer voices contributing
Speaker 8: to the pie, if you will, fewer chefs making the meal,
Speaker 8: because too many chefs ruin the meal. And they have
Speaker 8: believed that for forty forty five years, Lance, and it's
Speaker 8: not going to change now it is.
Speaker 2: I get still worked up over this. I got to
Speaker 2: take a breath. He also mentioned finishing in the big
Speaker 2: aspect of being not able to finish games, and yet
Speaker 2: is he what's frustrating to me trags? While he pointed
Speaker 2: out the troubles finishing this year, they had troubles finishing
Speaker 2: last year and it wasn't fixed.
Speaker 8: So it just that's not a costumeist land comment. It's
Speaker 8: a land Yes, what is the natural logic deduction you
Speaker 8: take from that? Well, if you can't finish games, it's coaching.
Speaker 8: So I interrupted Duke, and I said, well, Duke, you
Speaker 8: know what that means. It means that falls at the
Speaker 8: feet of Zach and his coaching staff. What do you
Speaker 8: think of them? And then he went into this flowery
Speaker 8: commendation and praise of Zach Taylor, and I agree, having
Speaker 8: covered Zach Taylor now for five full seasons, he's one
Speaker 8: of the brightest football people I have ever been around.
Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean.
Speaker 8: Necessarily he's a good head coach and a situational coach,
Speaker 8: especially at the end of games. What did Duke point
Speaker 8: out this afternoon, specifically, we have losing DNA at the
Speaker 8: end of games. Players make too many mistakes. They don't
Speaker 8: wrap up on tackles like Jordan Battle at the end
Speaker 8: of the Bears game. He pointed that game out specifically today,
Speaker 8: which really means to me that game stuck in his crawl.
Speaker 8: And you know, as much as the Browns game was
Speaker 8: a microcosm of the season, that Bears game ticked everybody
Speaker 8: off in the organization. And I'm sorry, but you've got
Speaker 8: to have better coaching to teach the technique. Jordan Battle
Speaker 8: is not a rookie and he, as much as Duke
Speaker 8: Tobin pointed him out as perhaps one of the cornerstones
Speaker 8: of the defense going forward, You've got to be much
Speaker 8: much better if you're.
Speaker 7: Jordan Battle going forward.
Speaker 8: And I think it's up to the coaching staff to
Speaker 8: take a long, hard look at how they're going to
Speaker 8: get Jordan Battle to be more productive, because right.
Speaker 2: Now I don't think I see it drags. It seems
Speaker 2: pretty clear based on what he said and how many
Speaker 2: times he referenced it. An emphasis will be on improving,
Speaker 2: upgrading that defensive line and pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 8: Yep, he's all about pressure in the quarterback. He said
Speaker 8: that a couple of times this afternoon. Lance that you
Speaker 8: got to get after the quarterback. And rebuilding the defense
Speaker 8: to Duke Tobin means rebuilding along the defensive line. And
Speaker 8: he mentioned by name in twenty twenty one and in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty DJ Reader and Larry Ogin Jobi, and he
Speaker 8: needs to go back to the drawing now. DJ Reader
Speaker 8: is a free agent this year, but he's not the
Speaker 8: same player he was five years ago. Let's not get
Speaker 8: too far ahead of ourselves. But Duke Tobin and his
Speaker 8: personnel staff have to go out in free agency, spend
Speaker 8: the limit and find those players that they sailed to.
Speaker 7: Find last year.
Speaker 2: Sixty three minutes, approximately forty seven questions asked you are
Speaker 2: the president of the Cincinnati chapter of the Pro Football Writers'
Speaker 2: Association of America. Were you happy with the execution of
Speaker 2: the group today. I thought it was an impressive performance.
Speaker 9: I was.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a lot of questions to be asked,
Speaker 8: and it is a logistical challenge, to say the least,
Speaker 8: to give the Beet people their proper opportunities to ask questions. Myself,
Speaker 8: Paul Danner, Junior, Richard Skinner, James Rapine, Kelsey Conway, who
Speaker 8: did a fabulous job today, had three questions actually typed
Speaker 8: up so that when she had her opportunity, she got
Speaker 8: all three questions in. But also it was an opportunity,
Speaker 8: as I said, this was performative for TV folks to
Speaker 8: get all their questions in, and I thought, given how lumbering.
Speaker 9: Environment this is.
Speaker 10: I think it was.
Speaker 8: I think it was held pretty well. And here's what
Speaker 8: I was happy about. It never got to the point
Speaker 8: where somebody was show voting and trying to show up Duke,
Speaker 8: because what I was concerned about going in is there's
Speaker 8: a lot of raw emotion from the fan base and
Speaker 8: a lot of reporters got questions like for comments and dms,
Speaker 8: we're counting on you, We're counting on you, And yes,
Speaker 8: we definitely felt the obligation to ask the questions that
Speaker 8: needed to be asked for the fans, but you have
Speaker 8: to do it in a manner where it's respectful to
Speaker 8: Duke Tobin, and I thought it was.
Speaker 7: I thought it came off.
Speaker 2: Very well in that regards.
Speaker 7: And one more thing, one more.
Speaker 8: Thing, good on Duke Tobin to take time out at
Speaker 8: the very beginning to you know, send out sympathy to
Speaker 8: Jay Morrison, who I think we all know now has
Speaker 8: been through hell and he lost his wife obviously, Nikki.
Speaker 8: And for Duke Tobin to you know, start the press conference,
Speaker 8: I actually think it was good because kind of kept
Speaker 8: everything in perspective.
Speaker 2: So good on Duke.
Speaker 7: For doing that.
Speaker 2: Treggs, You've had a busy day and you were all
Speaker 2: over this. Tell listeners how they can watch, read and follow.
Speaker 7: Sure we have.
Speaker 8: The reactions and my takeaways up on the X at
Speaker 8: Trags t r ags clns since with a y dot com.
Speaker 2: We'll have a column.
Speaker 8: Up later today, later tonight or tomorrow, and the Jungle
Speaker 8: War Podcast with Richard Skinner is up on YouTube dot
Speaker 8: com at Jungle War Pod. My apologies in advance. My
Speaker 8: sound is a little low, so you might have to
Speaker 8: type me up just a little bit.
Speaker 7: When I'm talking.
Speaker 2: Treg's final thought and I'm late for news, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to publicly thank you for your weekly, year long
Speaker 2: contributions to the Roundtable Show. You made our show better.
Speaker 2: Your appearances are much appreciated. We look forward to doing
Speaker 2: again next year, and I hope I can bug you
Speaker 2: before then.
Speaker 7: You got it, Lance anytime?
Speaker 2: Thank you. There you go, Mike Petralia trags. All right,
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Speaker 2: In a bit my Twitter question at Lance Pacalister after
Speaker 2: Duke's news conference today was were you satisfied with what
Speaker 2: you heard from Duke Tobin right now? That is running
Speaker 2: eighty one percent to eleven percent? Eighty one percent saying no,
Speaker 2: eleven percent saying yes, What say you? Here's what I say,
Speaker 2: Try to decide what order to do it and how
Speaker 2: not to lose my mind or to have my pacemaker fire.
Speaker 2: I just find it incredible how much this organization leans
Speaker 2: into because they've done it before as the reason why
Speaker 2: something will get fixed this time. Why do we why
Speaker 2: should we believe it can get fixed because we've done
Speaker 2: it before. Boy, if I had a dollar for every
Speaker 2: time Zach referenced twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: and back to back. Well, this, as far as I know,
Speaker 2: is twenty twenty six. And what I don't get is
Speaker 2: defaulting to because we've done it before and skipping right
Speaker 2: past the fact they didn't do it this year or
Speaker 2: last year or the year before, and skipping right past
Speaker 2: the fact they haven't done it in eight of the
Speaker 2: last ten years. Who stands on the principle and the
Speaker 2: talking point of it'll get fixed because we've done it before,
Speaker 2: when it hasn't been done three years in a row
Speaker 2: at eight of ten Zach's One of Zach's favorite lines
Speaker 2: is because we're and we're all accountable for this. Hell,
Speaker 2: who's accountable? Duke's coming back, Zach's coming back, the assistants
Speaker 2: are coming back. So how's it gonna get better? Well,
Speaker 2: we've done it before, but through osmosis. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what to say to that anymore. We're all accountable,
Speaker 2: says Zach. Show me who's been accountable for anything? And
Speaker 2: Duke said today, Well, reason to believe it'll get fixed
Speaker 2: is because we've done it before. Well, what year do
Speaker 2: you think you might be able to get it fixed?
Speaker 2: Because for three straight years you've tried and haven't gotten
Speaker 2: it fixed. Because we've done it before isn't a logical answer.
Speaker 2: It's just an arrogant answer, and it just kills me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna pass out. It's only
Speaker 2: six forty three. Let me get you to what Duke
Speaker 2: said today about scouting, because that was certainly near the
Speaker 2: top of everybody's list, talking about scouting and the state
Speaker 2: of the scouting department smallest in the league, and how
Speaker 2: he feels about the scouting department. Here's Duke talking about
Speaker 2: his scouting department earlier today.
Speaker 6: Our scouting staff, in my opinion, is it is the
Speaker 6: size that it is because I think the collaboration is.
Speaker 2: Better at that size.
Speaker 6: We have never lacked for information on a player. There's
Speaker 6: never been a player selected that we didn't know anything about.
Speaker 6: There's never been a player selected that we didn't have
Speaker 6: multiple reports at large background on. It's not about the
Speaker 6: volume of information we have. If we make a mistake,
Speaker 6: it's because at the decision point we made the wrong decision.
Speaker 6: But it wasn't because we didn't have information on the player.
Speaker 6: We have information, and we have plenty of opinion on
Speaker 6: the player, you know, and we've.
Speaker 2: Made a lot of good picks.
Speaker 6: I get that people are don't believe we've made any
Speaker 6: good picks. We've made a lot of good picks on
Speaker 6: our current roster, on past rosters, and there will be
Speaker 6: more on future rosters. I really believe that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass out. So your follow up is
Speaker 2: the obvious follow up. Wait a minute, what did you
Speaker 2: just say? And that was the exact follow up. He
Speaker 2: got to listen to this.
Speaker 8: Just to clarify from earlier, there is no plan as
Speaker 8: of right now to expand the scouting department this offseason.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: This offseason? No, We're right into it right now. There's
Speaker 6: a lot of work that's been done. Our guys are great.
Speaker 6: We have fantastic scouts. They work in every area. They
Speaker 6: are well known around college football, around pro football, and
Speaker 6: they give us what we need.
Speaker 2: I'm already exhausted. Imagine saying you have all the information
Speaker 2: that is out there and that's needed when it comes
Speaker 2: to the draft. When you have the smallest scouting department
Speaker 2: in the NFL, about a third of the average size
Speaker 2: compared to the rest of the league, more eyeballs on
Speaker 2: players offers a more rounded view of players, allowing for
Speaker 2: cross checking of players, allowing UH to see them on
Speaker 2: good days and bad days. It's just that stuff is
Speaker 2: just imagine thinking you are so smart that you can
Speaker 2: scout and evaluate players with one third the size of
Speaker 2: the scouting department of the NFL average. That's what they
Speaker 2: are saying. We have all the information we need, despite
Speaker 2: the fact the league average is much high, and despite
Speaker 2: the fact we have the smallest scouting department, we have
Speaker 2: all the information we need. Imagine the level of arrogance
Speaker 2: it takes to believe you can operate that way at
Speaker 2: one third the size of everybody else. Oh, we have
Speaker 2: great guys in that scouting department, he said, yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: could you point out the ones who who scouted and
Speaker 2: recommended Jermaine Burton? Could we could we bring up to
Speaker 2: the front the evaluators of Jackson Carmen, my daughter who's
Speaker 2: twenty three, who runs a couple of Fantasy Football League teams.
Speaker 2: My daughter could have selected Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: This team is in the position they are in because
Speaker 2: they don't draft well enough. And it is just the
Speaker 2: height of arrogance to believe that the smallest scouting department
Speaker 2: has all the bases covered, all the information they need. Well,
Speaker 2: if that's the case, why would all the other teams
Speaker 2: have so many more scouts? Are are they the dumb ones?
Speaker 11: Me?
Speaker 2: Why would teams have so many more scouts? I guess
Speaker 2: they are. They're they're just dumb. They're they're not a
Speaker 2: smart as the Bengals look at us. We can do
Speaker 2: it with with a six person scouting department. It just
Speaker 2: I just I just want to take a hammer to
Speaker 2: my head. I need to take time out. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hyperventilate your turn as we continue. I've carved out from
Speaker 2: here until along about maybe seven thirty or so. We'll
Speaker 2: see how it goes. I want your reaction to what
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Speaker 2: contribute during the show. Love the response and interaction during
Speaker 2: the show. You know, if I if I'm Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: I sat back and I thought, Man, if I'm Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow today, I'm thinking, man, we are screwed. De facto
Speaker 2: GM back coach back, coaching staff back. It'll get fixed
Speaker 2: because they've they've done it before. The emphasis on close
Speaker 2: games today, losing close game games twelve one score games
Speaker 2: in the last two years. Well, if it's the players, well,
Speaker 2: Duke brought the players. If it's the coaches, well the
Speaker 2: coach is returning. Duke said they were gonna tweak coaching techniques. Well,
Speaker 2: while they're tweaking coaching techniques, I'll be standing over here
Speaker 2: watching the clock tick on Joe Burrow's career. Let's go
Speaker 2: back or to the phones for the first time tonight,
Speaker 2: Mike and Kentucky, you were on seven hunterd wlw oh, Fylance,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight? I'm gonna have them. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lose my mind.
Speaker 8: Oh buddy, the same same feeling over here listening to
Speaker 8: him today. It's just it's just the same thing. I mean,
Speaker 8: the last twenty years has been the exact same in
Speaker 8: this city with really all.
Speaker 11: The sports franchises.
Speaker 8: But the way he talked about the scouting department and
Speaker 8: that they got all the information, I mean, it's mind blowing.
Speaker 8: It's absolutely mind blowing that they they don't. It's almost
Speaker 8: like they can't read the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. And it'd be one thing if
Speaker 2: they had the same size scouting department as the rest
Speaker 2: of the league. They are clearly far and away the
Speaker 2: smallest scouting department. So I just don't understand if you're
Speaker 2: gonna spend so much money in free agency and you
Speaker 2: have with your Big three, and you've got to nail drafts.
Speaker 2: This this franchise with Joe Burrow has got to nail drafts.
Speaker 2: I would think you'd want to do everything possible to
Speaker 2: increase your odds of nailing the drafts, not go with
Speaker 2: the smallest scouting department in the league.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is, it is Apps.
Speaker 13: I mean at this point, I was.
Speaker 8: I was a season ticket holder for almost a decade,
Speaker 8: and I gave them up at the end of last
Speaker 8: season because I was sick of it. Just the ideology
Speaker 8: of that franchise it is.
Speaker 13: It's it'll it'll wear.
Speaker 8: You down, like it'll really bring down as a fan.
Speaker 7: It's it's wild.
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, I appreciate you listen injury weekend for sure?
Speaker 7: You too?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you? Let me go to uh Mark Montgomery, Mark,
Speaker 2: what do you make of all this today?
Speaker 14: You know, so I've been watching this team since nineteen
Speaker 14: sixty eight. You know, I'm seventy years old, and as
Speaker 14: far as I'm concerned, it's just the same thing, you know,
Speaker 14: for the last fifty seven years. I mean, you know,
Speaker 14: nothing's changed. I'm not surprised. And really I've kind of
Speaker 14: come to the conclusion here that Mike Brown really looks
Speaker 14: at the draft as a crap shoot, don't.
Speaker 8: I think that's why wife always likes to compile a
Speaker 8: lot of draft picks. I don't think he really thinks
Speaker 8: there's a tremendous skill here, and he just he believes
Speaker 8: that if you get enough quality players, you know you're
Speaker 8: gonna hit on some players. And as you said, you
Speaker 8: know you could pick Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase with
Speaker 8: your eyes closed. That's a no good or no brainer picks.
Speaker 8: You know, when you're drafting in the first five picks,
Speaker 8: you know that that's pretty simple. But I really think
Speaker 8: that that's how they look at it. They don't look
Speaker 8: at the draft as.
Speaker 14: Being any more than a lot of luck, and that
Speaker 14: you know that they could spend more money and don't
Speaker 14: think they'd have any better life.
Speaker 9: And again the.
Speaker 14: Question I always ask too with any of these franchises,
Speaker 14: and people want to bang on the coaches and the
Speaker 14: manager all the time, but you know, is the ownership
Speaker 14: of both of these teams doing everything they can to
Speaker 14: put the coaching staff and the manager in the best
Speaker 14: position to win, and the answer to that is absolutely no,
Speaker 14: never and really have not. So why is anybody surprised?
Speaker 14: And quite frankly, I really think probably with this latest lease,
Speaker 14: I think the Bengals are out of here in ten
Speaker 14: years anyway. I mean, you got five new stadiums coming
Speaker 14: on the market here in the next five or six years.
Speaker 14: You got a three or four plan, including a couple
Speaker 14: of domes, including the one in Cleveland. The had running's
Speaker 14: on the wall. Ten years from now, they're going to
Speaker 14: want a new stadium. People aren't going to vote for it.
Speaker 14: They're going to be out of here, and you know, sadly,
Speaker 14: you know, I feel bad for Joe Burrow these guys
Speaker 14: because they're in a position. They've got contracts, and I
Speaker 14: don't think the owners going to do a damn thing.
Speaker 2: Mark, thank you, thanks, he feels I feel his frustration,
Speaker 2: and uh, I feel it oozing through the radio and
Speaker 2: certainly feel like oozing through social media tonight. Price Hell, Brian,
Speaker 2: what do you think about all this?
Speaker 9: Lamb?
Speaker 12: Sorry lamp, I dropped my phone, But yeah, I think
Speaker 12: that I think that the same thing as uh. I
Speaker 12: think they hired or put Joe t and Jamar to
Speaker 12: where it's a ticket sales. They care about money, they
Speaker 12: don't care about the team, they don't care about people,
Speaker 12: they don't care about nothing.
Speaker 9: Just like your last caller, he called heads up.
Speaker 12: But I think you hot. You put Joe Burrow, T
Speaker 12: Higgins Jamar out there.
Speaker 2: It's a ticket sales.
Speaker 9: If everybody would.
Speaker 12: Stop going to the games and spending money on alcohol,
Speaker 12: I guarantee you Mike Brown's pocketbook would start hurting and
Speaker 12: things would change. But they're not going to pile keep
Speaker 12: scoring and they're not going to change.
Speaker 7: What's that?
Speaker 2: No, go ahead, go ahead, but they just.
Speaker 12: They I don't see anything changing and it's not going
Speaker 12: to Like he said that he was a season ticket holder,
Speaker 12: I've been a season ticket holder too as well. And
Speaker 12: guess what it just I got rid of mine before
Speaker 12: COVID and I'm glad that I did. And everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 12: you made the best decision of your life. I did
Speaker 12: because I'm tired of wasting money, spending money down there,
Speaker 12: tailgate and all.
Speaker 7: This other stuff.
Speaker 12: And it's sad because nothing's going to change.
Speaker 2: Ran, Thank you for taking the tip, Thank you for
Speaker 2: taking the time to call tonight. Let's do it again sometime, right.
Speaker 12: All, I appreciate it, Lance, thank you, But that.
Speaker 2: Was a rapid fire first hour. I think there's more
Speaker 2: meat on the bone to get to.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: It is really frustrating to to look in and feel
Speaker 2: that they are living off of twenty one and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, propped up by Joe Burrow. Uh for for
Speaker 2: that to be the default position, I got news for you.
Speaker 2: There was a twenty twenty three season, a twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four and a twenty twenty five, and that is three
Speaker 2: consecutive years in the Joe Burrow window they have failed
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. And if you go nice round,
Speaker 2: number of the last ten years to have made the
Speaker 2: playoffs twice, even prior to Joe, And you're asking me
Speaker 2: to believe doing it twice in ten years should instill
Speaker 2: confidence in a belief that from me that they'll be
Speaker 2: able to do it again. Well, what year would that be?
Speaker 2: And how many more years must be checked off in
Speaker 2: the Joe Burrow window? Incredibly frustrating. More of your calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred, do the big one. It's
Speaker 2: Arnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WW.
Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.
Speaker 2: All right, what do you say we keep this thing movement?
Speaker 2: I see no reason to slow down down. We got
Speaker 2: up and running right out of the shoot at six.
Speaker 2: We haven't slowed down. Eight o'clock hour and off the
Speaker 2: beaten Path topic. I love Friday nights. I know you've
Speaker 2: got places to go, people to see, and things to do.
Speaker 2: If you hang out with me on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: you are you're good people. I very much appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We always try to have some fun and lighten the mood.
Speaker 2: In the eight o'clock hour, got an off the beaten
Speaker 2: path topic based on a movie Kelly and I recently watched,
Speaker 2: which I'll spin into a sportstop coming up in less
Speaker 2: than one hour. The news of the day, Duke Tobin.
Speaker 2: He addressed the media, spoke for sixty four minutes. He answered,
Speaker 2: by my count, forty seven questions. He sat down at
Speaker 2: the podium with a notepad. He had an opening statement
Speaker 2: that ran about three and a half minutes, and then
Speaker 2: he fielded those forty seven questions. And I thought it
Speaker 2: was I thought the forty seven questions were well organized
Speaker 2: and presented. I felt going in really nothing that Duke
Speaker 2: said was going to satisfy the fan base, so my
Speaker 2: bar was set kind of. There wasn't an expectation that
Speaker 2: this would be earthshaking, a game changer, nor did I
Speaker 2: think anybody would really say I am now fully convinced
Speaker 2: and on board that this team is going to win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl next year. I did not anticipate his
Speaker 2: go to points being delivered and received, at least on
Speaker 2: my end, and becoming so frustratingly just aggravating on a
Speaker 2: couple of different things, including the scouting department, and headlined
Speaker 2: by why should anyone believe that you'll fix it or
Speaker 2: are capable of fixing it? When the answer is because
Speaker 2: we've done it before. It just makes me want to
Speaker 2: throw things, if not throw up things. Let me give
Speaker 2: you a couple of more samplings. As much as I'd
Speaker 2: love to play the entire sixty four minutes, obviously don't
Speaker 2: have time. So I've tried to pick out some things
Speaker 2: that caught my ear. Gave you some of the first there.
Speaker 2: Let me give you a couple of more. Here's Duke
Speaker 2: on how important all of this is to the organization.
Speaker 2: To listen.
Speaker 6: I think the organization is willing to do anything it
Speaker 6: takes to win. I mean, that's been I've been here
Speaker 6: long enough to know that. If that wasn't the case,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it. You know, the organization wants to win.
Speaker 6: Mister Brown wants to win. Katie Troy, Elizabeth, Caroline, Paul,
Speaker 6: they want to win. That's what they want. They're willing
Speaker 6: to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin earlier today he also and this was a
Speaker 2: talking point he went back to a couple of times
Speaker 2: about elements of this team that have to get better,
Speaker 2: and that is finishing games, closing out games. They have
Speaker 2: twelve losses in the past two years by one score.
Speaker 2: Here's what he said about that earlier today.
Speaker 6: It irritates me, It really irritates me. You have to
Speaker 6: find ways to close games, and that has been our
Speaker 6: number one problem is when it comes time to close
Speaker 6: the game, we haven't closed it. And so how do
Speaker 6: you get over that hump? When we take the field
Speaker 6: against any team in this league, we can win and
Speaker 6: that team we're playing knows it. We don't go out
Speaker 6: there and get pummeled. We are in it and a
Speaker 6: lot of times should win it. And then don't I
Speaker 6: think that last game against Cleveland is just a microcosm
Speaker 6: of what we've had. But it's very frustrating that we've
Speaker 6: lost so many close games, incredibly frustrating. Had we just
Speaker 6: won our share of those, not more than our share,
Speaker 6: we'd be talking about least having opportunities in the playoffs,
Speaker 6: which is where we feel we should be. We feel
Speaker 6: like we're a championship caliber team. We're six and eleven.
Speaker 6: I'm six and eleven. How could you feel that way?
Speaker 6: You're an idiot. Well that's the way I feel.
Speaker 2: Well, then what I don't understand then is, and it
Speaker 2: goes back to Zach's throwaway line, we're all accountable for this.
Speaker 2: If if that's the feel that they're a championship team,
Speaker 2: and they went six and eleven and they've missed the
Speaker 2: playoffs for three straight years, why are they running it
Speaker 2: back again? And to his point of close games, yes,
Speaker 2: they lost games this year by one score. They lost
Speaker 2: seven games last year by one score, so they clearly
Speaker 2: haven't been able to fix that. And yet he also
Speaker 2: said we haven't been pummeled. Well, I don't know. You
Speaker 2: lost by thirty eight to Minnesota, you lost by twenty
Speaker 2: five to Denver. I don't care who was quarterbacking. You
Speaker 2: lost by twenty two to the Steelers, and at home
Speaker 2: against a division rival with their playoff hopes still alive.
Speaker 2: They know showed and lost twenty four to nothing. And
Speaker 2: yet we don't get pumbled and have a chance in
Speaker 2: every game. And the answer to that is run it back,
Speaker 2: because we've done it before. Sometimes you just can't make
Speaker 2: stuff up. Sometimes. Back to the phones, and let's go here, TJ.
Speaker 2: Welcome to seven hutter WLW, TJ.
Speaker 8: Hello, Hello, So you're made at Mike Brown, Duke Covin,
Speaker 8: and Doc Taylor.
Speaker 2: Right, uh uh, yeah, I have That's what we've been
Speaker 2: talking about today.
Speaker 16: So why doesn't Mike Brown retire and sit in his
Speaker 16: mansion and watch the team on TV. Let's let's hire
Speaker 16: John Harball.
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not really contributing much to the conversation,
Speaker 2: so we'll go to Clifton Kevin. You were on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, Lance, Hey, you hear me.
Speaker 2: Loud and clear. What's on your mind?
Speaker 17: Hey? Hey, you know you've always said the back of
Speaker 17: the baseball card.
Speaker 7: Yep, right, yep, you've always.
Speaker 17: Said that, and if you look at the Bengals back
Speaker 17: of the baseball card, maybe a football card.
Speaker 2: What do you see?
Speaker 7: What do you see? The same thing? Over and over
Speaker 7: and over? Am I right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 18: Am I missing this?
Speaker 2: No? No, you're you're you're right. In fact, you know,
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin has been in the role he's in director
Speaker 2: of player Personnel for twenty four years. In those twenty
Speaker 2: four years, they've had eleven winning seasons, ten losing seasons,
Speaker 2: and three break even seasons. I mean, for twenty four years.
Speaker 2: To exist with that record, their average record in his
Speaker 2: time here is about an eight to nine season. They've
Speaker 2: won one hundred and eighty five, they've lost one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety nine, and they've tied four And to quote
Speaker 2: Tracy Jones, that leaves it at it is what it is.
Speaker 17: Yeah, hey, hey, what's the value of the back of
Speaker 17: that baseball.
Speaker 7: Card or a football card? Night?
Speaker 2: I love you, brother, Thank you guy.
Speaker 19: Your son is as old as my son, and I
Speaker 19: remember you taking your son to a baseball game before
Speaker 19: he was diagnosed with cancer and it was a beautiful
Speaker 19: thing and I just really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you made my night and the hair standing
Speaker 2: up on my arms thank you for the kind words,
Speaker 2: and let's talk again soon. All right. He take care
Speaker 2: of yourself, okay, all right you as well.
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Speaker 2: Last night, Wes Miller opened his radio show by issuing
Speaker 2: an apology for his postgame comments with Dan and Terry
Speaker 2: following the loss at West Virginia. I'm gonna let you
Speaker 2: take a listen. Here's what he said in the post game,
Speaker 2: and then the apology he offered last night.
Speaker 20: Coach Miller has joined us now courtside here in Morgantown. Coach,
Speaker 20: I feel for everybody in that locker room right now.
Speaker 2: You've got a great don't feel don't feel for us.
Speaker 21: We get to come out and play basketball. I don't
Speaker 21: care about the noise. Dan, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care what people think.
Speaker 21: I only care about my team and I care about
Speaker 21: my program. And you know what, it's almost comical. We'll
Speaker 21: get a break. We just got to stay together and
Speaker 21: stay brilliant. It's us against the whole world. We know
Speaker 21: that we're gonna get a break. We're gonna keep going, period, period.
Speaker 21: I'll answer any questions you guys want. Everybody can quit
Speaker 21: on us. Everybody I hear everybody, keep go go ahead,
Speaker 21: us against the world Come.
Speaker 14: This is the West Miller Radio Show Live from the
Speaker 14: original Montgomery End.
Speaker 20: Players are resilient. High level athletes have to be tell
Speaker 20: us about kind of the emotional tenor of the team
Speaker 20: right now.
Speaker 22: Well, first, guys, I'd like to apologize for the way
Speaker 22: I came out of the locker room the other night.
Speaker 2: Apologize that you obviously talked to you guys off.
Speaker 22: Air yesterday, but I want to say it on air.
Speaker 22: None of my emotions or anger or frustration was directed
Speaker 22: at you. None of it was directed at any body
Speaker 22: of people in particular. You guys are the best. You
Speaker 22: guys know how I feel. I don't think you all
Speaker 22: took it that way.
Speaker 20: We did not for the record, and it's completely unnecessary,
Speaker 20: but I appreciate the thought.
Speaker 22: No, it needs to be said, and then listen, there's
Speaker 22: a lot of there's so many awesome people. I love
Speaker 22: our fan base. That there's standards here, there's expectations. When
Speaker 22: we don't meet those, it's extremely frustrating. I pride myself
Speaker 22: on being professional, handle it the right way when you're
Speaker 22: supposed to when you lead a program like this. At
Speaker 22: that moment, I did, and then for that, I'm sorry,
Speaker 22: But now it's time to move on and let's reach
Speaker 22: those standards.
Speaker 2: West Miller last night on his radio show That is
Speaker 2: Your College Basketball Weekend Preview presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Let's
Speaker 2: get back into the story of the day. Duke Tobin
Speaker 2: spoke earlier at one o'clock, spoke for sixty four minutes,
Speaker 2: answered approximately forty seven questions, and we have reacted to
Speaker 2: things we have heard. Let's go to Harrison. Hey, Rick,
Speaker 2: welcome to Sports Talk.
Speaker 12: Hey, y'all, I answer you.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, how about you good?
Speaker 5: I just wanted to make a quick observation. Listened to
Speaker 5: most of his press conference today and tried to listen
Speaker 5: to what I should say. But after hearing him talk,
Speaker 5: I can see why he's coming back, because he is
Speaker 5: literally as out of touch and out of reality of
Speaker 5: what needs to be done with the football team as
Speaker 5: the entire Brown family.
Speaker 2: It certainly left me worried about how aware they are
Speaker 2: of the issues and how capable they are of fixing
Speaker 2: those issues.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just after you're hearing him talk, I thought
Speaker 5: him and the Browns are made perfect for each other.
Speaker 2: Rick, enjoy your weekend and appreciate you checking in.
Speaker 7: You too, and Georgia says.
Speaker 2: Right, thank you, very kind of you. Let's go to Ross. Hey, Ed,
Speaker 2: welcome to sports Talk.
Speaker 4: Hey IAMB tell you doing tonight, buddy.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hang in there.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you a little tongue in cheek, all right,
Speaker 4: all right, So let's here's what happened. I when I
Speaker 4: was fifteen years old, was when the Bangels went to
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl in eighty one, right, yep. So I
Speaker 4: went into a coma right before the game. And today
Speaker 4: I woke up from that coma, and the first thing
Speaker 4: that I had on was Duke Toobdan's press conference, and
Speaker 4: I was so excited Lance to know that we had
Speaker 4: won seven or eight Super Bowls in the time that
Speaker 4: I had been in a coma to today, because that's
Speaker 4: the way that man.
Speaker 7: Talked about.
Speaker 4: Exactly the way that that man had talked I mean Lance.
Speaker 4: When Marvin took over this team, we were still riding
Speaker 4: off the coattails of the eighty eight Super Bowl. Right,
Speaker 4: Marvin comes in, he drafts questionable players. We didn't care.
Speaker 4: We would get to the playoffs and we would lose.
Speaker 4: Sixteen years later, a white napkin walks in right and
Speaker 4: We're gonna draft better players now, people with character, people
Speaker 4: with honor. We're gonna fill this locker room full of
Speaker 4: people with character and honor. And that goes to the
Speaker 4: super Bowl the second year, right, yep? What makes Cincinnati
Speaker 4: believe that we're not gonna ride off of Zach's Zach
Speaker 4: Taylor's coattails for that one super Bowl for the next
Speaker 4: sixteen years?
Speaker 23: Lamb?
Speaker 4: What makes us all thinks? And I'm sick and tired
Speaker 4: of hearing people say I'm not coming back. Well, guess what, Lance,
Speaker 4: We're all coming back. We all watch it. You me,
Speaker 4: everybody that keeps saying that they're not coming back will
Speaker 4: be there. Butts will be in seat opening day.
Speaker 2: I feel your frustration, Ed.
Speaker 7: Lance as well.
Speaker 2: I hear it. I feel it, you know. The more
Speaker 2: I look at this and I look at the Duke
Speaker 2: Tobin file, I mean, think about it. He's been the
Speaker 2: director of player Personnel since two thousand and two, so
Speaker 2: twenty four seasons. He's been in charge of the roster.
Speaker 2: As the air quotes the Facto GM, they have eleven
Speaker 2: winning seasons. Let me let me put it this way,
Speaker 2: in how many other NFL cities do you believe that
Speaker 2: would fly Slash be accepted twenty four seasons as the
Speaker 2: director of player personnel and eleven winning seasons, a record
Speaker 2: of one eighty five and one ninety nine with four ties.
Speaker 2: Does that grant the acceptance of we'll figure it out
Speaker 2: because we've done it before. That's that's what leaves me baffled.
Speaker 2: In Lexington, we go, Hey, Joel, welcome to Sports Talk.
Speaker 15: Hey, good evening, Good evening. Yeah, so I was driving
Speaker 15: back from Cincinnati. I'm in Lexington, Kentucky now, even wearing
Speaker 15: Bengals swag. I'm like your last caller, he kind of.
Speaker 15: I don't have a lot to add to this, but
Speaker 15: I will be back. And I watched the Bengals. I
Speaker 15: get heartbreak on Sundays with that. But like the last caller,
Speaker 15: and you said, I really we saw him stay with
Speaker 15: Marvin Lewis for a long time. Nice guy, great guy evidently,
Speaker 15: and Zach Taylor like him. But in the world of work,
Speaker 15: it's just not reality that it's a performance based business
Speaker 15: and the performance isn't there. You're given opportunities, but I
Speaker 15: just I can't believe it either in most jobs or
Speaker 15: in most like you said, NFL teams, this kind of record,
Speaker 15: wouldn't keep you employed. And I listened to some of
Speaker 15: that press conference. I'm out of town, like I said,
Speaker 15: I'm in Cincinnati coming back. I listen to some of
Speaker 15: that and it's not inspiring. It's really heartbreaking. But I
Speaker 15: will be back and I'm a bing and but it's
Speaker 15: just so disappointing.
Speaker 7: I don't know why they do this.
Speaker 2: That's a great way. You used some great words. It's
Speaker 2: not inspiring, heartbreaking, and that's that's a that's a good
Speaker 2: way to describe the situation. Hey, Joel, enjoy your weekend,
Speaker 2: and then thank you for taking time to check in tonight. Yes,
Speaker 2: sir Hi Bu, thank you. Yeah, not inspiring and it's heartbreaking,
Speaker 2: he said, Yeah, when we come back, Bob and Joyning,
Speaker 2: Charlie and Harry and others. I want to add this
Speaker 2: to the mix. What were you doing ten years ago
Speaker 2: tonight as a Bengals fan? Do you know what you
Speaker 2: were doing ten years ago tonight as a Bengals fan?
Speaker 2: January the ninth, twenty sixteen. That is a head afternoons
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Speaker 2: to Red's opening day. I like it some consistency with
Speaker 2: the show, and I'm looking forward to the off the
Speaker 2: Beaten Path topic in the eight o'clock hour. It will
Speaker 2: be a perfect flip of the script to how we
Speaker 2: have felt through the first couple hours. Then at nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll is here. He's in for Sterling, He's got you.
Speaker 2: Nine to midnight. I've always said, and this is the
Speaker 2: anniversary of a very significant mot You know me and anniversaries.
Speaker 2: I love Cincinnati sports anniversaries. Kelly wishes I would remember
Speaker 2: ours more often, more consistently. But on this date ten
Speaker 2: years ago, ten years ago tonight, I've always said, and
Speaker 2: the more I go back and look at this game,
Speaker 2: it would be worthy of an ESPN thirty for thirty,
Speaker 2: that classic. What if I told you an NFL team
Speaker 2: was eighty three seconds away from winning a playoff game
Speaker 2: for the first time in twenty six years, only to
Speaker 2: melt down against a division rival and lose said playoff game.
Speaker 2: It was ten years ago tonight, when all of this
Speaker 2: unfolded at Paul Brown Stadium. Take a listen.
Speaker 20: Hi snap caught by Roethlisberger drops back looking pump faces
Speaker 20: he will be sacked back at the five yard line.
Speaker 20: Bontes Perfect got him. He Stiburger is not getting up,
Speaker 20: he's hurt. Perfect comes away with the ball. It was
Speaker 20: after the play and Big Ben is still down.
Speaker 2: Big Ben man hurt his shoulder.
Speaker 20: Mccaren under center, stomps the right foot, takes the snap,
Speaker 20: hands it off.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Hill goes into the end zone and spikes the football.
Speaker 24: The Bengals have scored a touchdown.
Speaker 20: It is third and seven at the Pittsburgh twenty five. McCarron,
Speaker 20: five yards behind the line, takes a shotgun snap. It's
Speaker 20: a four man rush aj gunfield for a j Green.
Speaker 2: He cuts you in and goes into the bone.
Speaker 3: Touchdown Bengals Raymond Anthony mccaren to Adriel Sjeremiah Green a
Speaker 3: twenty five yard touchdown and the Bengals have a one
Speaker 3: point lead.
Speaker 20: First in ten Pittsburgh down by a point. Landry Jones
Speaker 20: back to throws from his five over the middle.
Speaker 24: Hig Perfect Headerspon Gootes. Perfect comes away with a football.
Speaker 24: The Bengals have the ball with one minute and thirty
Speaker 24: six seconds to go. The back's in the eye behind
Speaker 24: AJ mccaron. He will turn left, give it to Jeremy Hill.
Speaker 24: Hill running down.
Speaker 2: To the twenty.
Speaker 1: The ball comes out.
Speaker 20: The Steelers pick it up and get tackled back at the.
Speaker 2: Nine yard line.
Speaker 20: Are you kidding me? Roethlisberger waiting for the shotgun snap,
Speaker 20: He'll drop back, pocket closes his pass too high and incomplete.
Speaker 2: There's a penalty, flat test. They're colin vntes purfect.
Speaker 20: Eighteen seconds to go, Boswell is ready, Barry puts it down.
Speaker 20: Boswell's kick is up and it is good. The Pittsburgh
Speaker 20: Steelers lead with fourteen seconds to go.
Speaker 2: The season ends.
Speaker 20: The streak continues twenty five years and counting Pittsburgh eighteen
Speaker 20: Cincinnati sixteen.
Speaker 2: This one, Dan, is going to be hard to get over.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to let go. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: honestly disgust me the way this game ended. You know,
Speaker 2: as I'm listening back to that, it now feels like
Speaker 2: I'm piling on tonight, like you already heard it in
Speaker 2: a sour enough mood. But it's see it happened on
Speaker 2: this date, Hi Stack. And there are just so many
Speaker 2: things in that game that I mean one, that game
Speaker 2: was a absolute bloodback. I mean not not physical, it
Speaker 2: was brutality on the field. The Giovanni Bernard knocked unconscious
Speaker 2: by Ryan Shazier. They just oh man, there was just
Speaker 2: so much there. And the touchdown catch but between the
Speaker 2: legs the pirate or the pirates, the Steelers wide receiver
Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone, and when when
Speaker 2: perfect intercept, I was jumping up and down with Casey
Speaker 2: looking up to like the football gods above, like they're
Speaker 2: going to win a playoff game. They're going to win
Speaker 2: a play Fontes perfect personal foul, Adam Jones personal foul.
Speaker 2: And I will never forget the smirk on the face
Speaker 2: of assistant coach Joey Porter when he was on the
Speaker 2: field after Antonio Brown had been hit and was laid out.
Speaker 2: Joey Porter went out there simply to insight as an instigator,
Speaker 2: and the grin on his face when he drew the
Speaker 2: second personal foul. And you know what else I remember
Speaker 2: about that and it will it will always bug me,
Speaker 2: and it is such a steealer thing. The first personal
Speaker 2: foul of the night was against the Steelers offensive line
Speaker 2: coach Mike Munchak, who was flagged for grabbing Reggie Nelson's
Speaker 2: hair after Reggie Nelson was out of bounds pursuing a
Speaker 2: tackle and he grabbed his hair. If that's not a
Speaker 2: stealer thing, I don't know what it is. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to the phones five one, three, seven four night,
Speaker 2: seven thousand fifty, ten years ago, tonight, ten years ago tonight.
Speaker 2: You know what? And the sting has not faded, nor
Speaker 2: do I think it'll ever fade. Crittendon, we go, Hey, Dwayne,
Speaker 2: welcome to Sports Talk Memories.
Speaker 9: You love it, Lance.
Speaker 13: You loved putting salt in that loan. Someone actually brought
Speaker 13: the name basic back into both.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 13: Forget you, my friend.
Speaker 25: We had, we had.
Speaker 13: I had the privilege of working with you back.
Speaker 7: In the nineties.
Speaker 13: You were down the hall in this at the score
Speaker 13: with Skinny getting here, and I knew, I knew great
Speaker 13: things were in order for you and that it would
Speaker 13: all work out. Had I known the trumpy stories, man,
Speaker 13: I would have been down in the hall plugging.
Speaker 10: They instead of putting up with Carl.
Speaker 2: Carl.
Speaker 13: But anyway, Uh, we're like battered wives here, okay, I
Speaker 13: mean we're about the same age the nineties we lived
Speaker 13: through that. I think Willie's great with the zach Schula.
Speaker 13: I mean this tiger and on Cage's spots there Lance Uh,
Speaker 13: Mike Brown. You would think, out of all the pride
Speaker 13: the game made his family billionaires. You would think, before
Speaker 13: I die, we were going to go for it everything,
Speaker 13: and you had d one generational quarterback to do it,
Speaker 13: and you screwed it up, and so no, And when
Speaker 13: people were on the bandwagon in the beginning, when I
Speaker 13: saw the LSU and I said, the poor guy's coming
Speaker 13: to Cincinnati and he's going to be abused just like
Speaker 13: the previous quarterbacks. And it's just sad, It really is sad.
Speaker 13: I'm glad you were making a living off of the brother.
Speaker 13: Congratulations to your success. You're going to continue to do
Speaker 13: it until you decide to retire like Willie never and
Speaker 13: I just I'm proud of you. And it's just sad
Speaker 13: because you would think that billionaire family just once once
Speaker 13: would give everything they got. That guy today, whoever, he's
Speaker 13: got the personality of a pumpkin and the football skills
Speaker 13: to match. It's sad that this city deserves so much more.
Speaker 13: And because I was on the air laughing at the
Speaker 13: tax for the new stadium back in the nineties, then
Speaker 13: I had a chance for season tickets in the box
Speaker 13: and I'm like, no, are you kidding me? It's not
Speaker 13: going to change. And when people were getting on the bandwagon,
Speaker 13: I was like, kids, don't you know your kids, You
Speaker 13: don't realize who you're dealing with, the Brown family. It's
Speaker 13: not going to change. And that's what's sad that they
Speaker 13: couldn't have sold the franchise to a billionaire. Because the
Speaker 13: billionaires who own teams, that's their toy. They play with it.
Speaker 13: They throw that money at it, you know, like you're
Speaker 13: an owner of a boat. You're never gonna get it's
Speaker 13: a money pit.
Speaker 9: But they made their living at it.
Speaker 13: So that's all I have to say.
Speaker 2: Dwayne, you made my night with the very kind words.
Speaker 2: They are very much appreciated. It is great hearing your voice.
Speaker 2: And I hope we talk again soon.
Speaker 26: I hope we do.
Speaker 13: Tell Dan Carroll CEC said, man, I.
Speaker 2: Will do that. Thanks ye all right, thank you brother,
Speaker 2: there you go. You know what is really kind words,
Speaker 2: thank you? What is just incredibly frustrating is to not
Speaker 2: be aggressively taking advantage of the opportunity that they were
Speaker 2: gifted with Joe Burrow. They were gifted with it, and
Speaker 2: yet coasting on him instead of pedal to the metal
Speaker 2: with him three years in a row without making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And the answer is to run it back with the
Speaker 2: de facto GM, the coaches and all the assistants, the
Speaker 2: head coach and all the assistants in the Joe Burrow window.
Speaker 2: And again, I'll go back to this. I truly believe
Speaker 2: there is not another team in the NFL. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: missing one. I don't even think the Raiders would fit this.
Speaker 2: Over the last twenty four years, the man building the
Speaker 2: roster has built eleven winning teams out of twenty four seasons.
Speaker 2: And he was the one asking you to understand why
Speaker 2: it's going to get fixed today.
Speaker 18: I mean, what world are we living?
Speaker 2: Well, we're living in a world with the Indiana Hoosiers
Speaker 2: have just taking a lead on a pick six less
Speaker 2: than a minute end of the game. Was that the
Speaker 2: first play from scrimmage, Indiana has taken the lead and
Speaker 2: the Peach Bowl. The crowd, which looks to be about
Speaker 2: ninety five percent hoo's your fans. I think that place
Speaker 2: is shaking right now. Holy cow, six nothing pending the
Speaker 2: extra point on a pick six.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 2: This is RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevalet.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW. E's seven seventy three put fifty six
Speaker 2: on the board in the first half, coast a little.
Speaker 2: In the second half, the Rockets founded a bit of
Speaker 2: a comeback, but fall by fifteen. Selina was undefeated in
Speaker 2: the MAC and Miami beats him on the road at
Speaker 2: their placed by fourteen to move to seventeen and oer
Speaker 2: in the country. Holy cow, unbelievable. The off the Beaten
Speaker 2: pathtopic coming up in the eight o'clock hour. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna have time to clear this board of everybody talking Bengals,
Speaker 2: but man, there's gonna be a dramatic shift in tone
Speaker 2: in feeling because it's needed and it's Friday night. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have some fun. But let's round out in this
Speaker 2: last segment a couple of calls at least to get
Speaker 2: us to new and then the off the Beaten Path topic.
Speaker 2: In Columbus, Kevin, you were on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Well what I did that night.
Speaker 27: I was so depressed when the game ended, I I
Speaker 27: just laid down, went to sleep, and in the morning
Speaker 27: I was trying to convince myself that I fell asleep
Speaker 27: during the game and it was just a nightmare, like
Speaker 27: the worst possible ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 27: Well, yeah, I'll look at the I look at the
Speaker 27: sports news and.
Speaker 7: All the Beckels won.
Speaker 9: But I mean, could I.
Speaker 27: Even imagined it any worse than it was? Yeah, you
Speaker 27: were asking what we do that time. I usually listened
Speaker 27: to the post game one way or another, but I
Speaker 27: was just, Oh, it was so bad.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 2: It was just God, that's all I need. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It was just such a debilitating punch to the gut,
Speaker 2: if not lower kind of night with that game. Sat
Speaker 2: Leon we go. Hey Bob, welcome to Sports Talk.
Speaker 9: Yeah, love your show.
Speaker 7: Thank you big.
Speaker 25: I'm it's Gary Burbank Bengals legend. I appreciate you adding
Speaker 25: the humor of that game because it was just I
Speaker 25: was rooting for the Bengals, not a Bengals fan in
Speaker 25: any way, shape or for him, but when I was watching,
Speaker 25: it was definitely rooting for him. But then to just
Speaker 25: see him like he says, disintegrate and I mean two
Speaker 25: thugs of players that were Yeah, anyways, but it just
Speaker 25: whenever I hear the name Duke Tobin. Just to help
Speaker 25: with that comedy add back in. You remember Brian Fontane
Speaker 25: on anchor Man, Well, he had the lou Dobbin good
Speaker 25: time winger pouch. So that's the one he gave to Brick.
Speaker 25: So I guess that's just remember him sticking there for
Speaker 25: Duke Tobin because I don't think he's a whole lot
Speaker 25: better than one with a whole inning.
Speaker 2: Bob, have a great weekend. It just yeah, I appreciate
Speaker 2: check it in. I have people are feeling it. I
Speaker 2: said this earlier in the week. If the Bengals believed
Speaker 2: that the the comment from ownership early in the week,
Speaker 2: Zach's news conference and then Duke's news conference today was
Speaker 2: going to smooth things over, I think it's safe to
Speaker 2: say that did not is not happening. Dayton, We go, Charley,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Sports Talk.
Speaker 28: Hey, Alan's thank you for all your Facebook comment man,
Speaker 28: I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: The thing that has stuck with me every single week.
Speaker 17: Isman's comment last year at the com time when he
Speaker 17: said smugly on to pay for the same team.
Speaker 8: And then he did yes, and here we are today
Speaker 8: with the exact same problem we had last.
Speaker 26: Year, where it's like you didn't bring anybody in on defense.
Speaker 7: What wasn't impressed?
Speaker 10: It's like you still need three starters at least at
Speaker 10: least maybe yeah, you know, but but you made him
Speaker 10: last year. And really, if he would have came out
Speaker 10: and said, uh, we're missing our safety, we're missing.
Speaker 29: Jesse Bates and we need Jesse Bates back.
Speaker 16: Because he's like, we don't have a root on defense,
Speaker 16: He's like, yeah, you should have played with back in
Speaker 16: twenty fifteen and you should have paid bays.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, Lands, Thank you, Charlie H. Fairfield.
Speaker 2: We go Andy, give me a memory of ten years
Speaker 2: ago tonight to Lance.
Speaker 30: My wife and I were dating at the time, as
Speaker 30: she's not a sports fan. It was the first complete
Speaker 30: football game she ever watched, and I think she had
Speaker 30: she had more entertainment watching me jump up and down
Speaker 30: and then crawl on the floor and I had to
Speaker 30: drive her home at midnight. It was and she the
Speaker 30: amazing thing. She married me anyway, but it was h
Speaker 30: it was a hilarious It actually made it bearable just
Speaker 30: watching her laugh at me. I bet, I bet the
Speaker 30: other thing real quick? Isn't the NFL set up to
Speaker 30: make this not happen? Between the scheduling and the way
Speaker 30: the draft works, it almost seems like it's harder to
Speaker 30: do what the Bengals have done than actually be successful.
Speaker 30: The thought, Hey, I have a great weekend, Andy you too,
Speaker 30: I appreciate it. Thank you man, such kind words today.
Speaker 2: Thank you. And it's Friday night and you hang out
Speaker 2: with me. Let's turn into the eight o'clock hour, the
Speaker 2: off the beaten path topic returns. It guaranteed, guaranteed, no
Speaker 2: matter how you felt in the first two hours, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put a smile on your face. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: some fun. I think that's the goal. RNL Carrier Sports
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevale, seven hundred WW.
Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.
Speaker 2: All right into the eight o'clock hour, we go and
Speaker 2: nice answer by the Oregon Ducks. Ducks threw a pick
Speaker 2: six the first play the game. Indiana led seven to
Speaker 2: nothing in a blink of an eye, and then the
Speaker 2: Ducks marched fourteen plays seventy five yards for a score
Speaker 2: touchdown pass from about nineteen yards and we're even. I
Speaker 2: would wonder how many scoring drive touchdown drives of at
Speaker 2: least fourteen plays Indiana allowed this season and Oregon, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say with relative ease. I mean it
Speaker 2: took them a while, but it was fourteen plays seventy
Speaker 2: five yards on a touchdown and we are even buckle
Speaker 2: up at the Peach Bowl tonight. All right, Off the
Speaker 2: Beaten Path. For those who are new to the show,
Speaker 2: we do this every Friday night when we have a
Speaker 2: full show, And my idea is, it's the end of
Speaker 2: the week, and who wants to as much as we
Speaker 2: may have ranted and raved and lost our minds in
Speaker 2: the first two hours, who wants to end the week
Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock hour with ranting and raving and
Speaker 2: screaming and stuff that makes you unhappy. So I always
Speaker 2: try to do something fun and light and the off
Speaker 2: the Beaten Path topic can be sports, it can be
Speaker 2: something related to TV or movie or music. I love list.
Speaker 2: If you ever have an idea for an off the
Speaker 2: Beaten Path topic, email me Lance at lancemacallister dot com.
Speaker 2: If I use it, I'll give you full credit because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of times Kelly will tell you I
Speaker 2: walk around very stressed because it gets later in the weekend.
Speaker 2: If I don't have it off the beaten path topic,
Speaker 2: then I'm texting you, see Chris, and I'm saying I
Speaker 2: got nothing. I got nothing. Here's what I'm going to
Speaker 2: offer up tonight. And as I always say, I could
Speaker 2: offer it up. It only works if you take it
Speaker 2: and run with it. I think there's something here. I
Speaker 2: went over this with Kelly last night. She thinks there's
Speaker 2: something here, So follow me, all right. We watched last
Speaker 2: week when Peyton was home for a while. It was me,
Speaker 2: Kelly and Peyton, and we watched a movie called Eternity,
Speaker 2: and it is a It came out in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: It's a throwback romantic comedy and it's about eternity, a
Speaker 2: state of endless existence. And in the movie, souls arrive
Speaker 2: at a train station to begin their after life, and
Speaker 2: they arrive in the happiest time of their life. It
Speaker 2: might be when they were nine years old or twenty
Speaker 2: or thirty seven, or sixty five or ninety, but no
Speaker 2: matter when they died, they arrived at this train station
Speaker 2: to begin their after life in the happiest moment of
Speaker 2: their life, and that's how they're going to spend their
Speaker 2: after life.
Speaker 15: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too deep on that, but
Speaker 2: the acting, the threesome, the tree are really good and
Speaker 2: the woman faces a really tough choice in all this.
Speaker 2: For the purposes of the topic, though, I want to
Speaker 2: make it about sports, and I'll simply ask this, what
Speaker 2: was your happiest time in your life as a sports fan,
Speaker 2: that period in time that it was the very best,
Speaker 2: the happiest time as a fan, when everything became worth it,
Speaker 2: when everything came together, when there was that sense of pride.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was with your favorite team that you followed.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a team you played on, Maybe it's a
Speaker 2: team you're your child played on. It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: You're the one who gets to answer. In relation to
Speaker 2: the movie Eternity and everybody arriving the soul's arriving at
Speaker 2: this train station and for their afterlife and their happiest
Speaker 2: time of their life. I said, well, wait, Mante, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna borrow that and make it about sports. So the
Speaker 2: happiest time in your life related to sports was when
Speaker 2: and why take me back to that time. When was it,
Speaker 2: How old were you?
Speaker 9: What was it like?
Speaker 2: Relive it for me. I'll give you mine, I'll give
Speaker 2: you mine, you give me yours. Nineteen seventy six, I
Speaker 2: was ten year years old, the big red machine. Now,
Speaker 2: my team had won the previous year, first team that
Speaker 2: I followed to win a championship at the age of nine,
Speaker 2: and that was great. But nineteen seventy six to me
Speaker 2: was a flex of greatness and domination, larger than life.
Speaker 2: Players that I was rooting for, pros, the definition of
Speaker 2: professionals and how they went about their business, methodical in
Speaker 2: running rough shot over the National League that year, and
Speaker 2: then over the American League in the World Series, a
Speaker 2: sweep in the NL playoffs, and then a sweep in
Speaker 2: the World Series, a sweep of the postseason. My team
Speaker 2: was king and I was ten year years old. My
Speaker 2: team was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. It seemed
Speaker 2: like every week, or on the cover of the Sporting News,
Speaker 2: on the cover of Baseball Digest, on the cover of
Speaker 2: Sport Magazine, on the cover of Inside Sport magazine, name
Speaker 2: another magazine. Every week. Mel Allen on this week in Baseball,
Speaker 2: It's like the show was dominated by red stuff. Hello everybody,
Speaker 2: this is Mel Allen and this is a time for
Speaker 2: Twip notes that at age ten, for me was my
Speaker 2: happiest time as a sports fan because that team. I
Speaker 2: just wish I could I could do justice to that
Speaker 2: team in the words I'm choosing to describe them with.
Speaker 2: To those who just don't know weren't fortunate enough to
Speaker 2: follow that team. I swear that team never lost. When
Speaker 2: I went to Riverfront as a kid, I swear every
Speaker 2: time they all behind early, he is like, no problem,
Speaker 2: they'll come back and win. That's my answer. That's the
Speaker 2: happiest time in my life as a sports fan. How
Speaker 2: about you. That's the topic tonight. That's the off the
Speaker 2: beaten path topic. Courtesy of the movie Eternity five one three,
Speaker 2: seven four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred, The Big One.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to have you take me back in
Speaker 2: time to what that moment was like for you when
Speaker 2: you were at your happiest as a sports fan. And again,
Speaker 2: maybe the team you followed, maybe it was a team
Speaker 2: that you were playing on, maybe it was a team
Speaker 2: your kids played on. That's the beauty of this because
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be open ended enough and
Speaker 2: honestly the way the emotions were running, our emotions, my
Speaker 2: emotions in the first two hours. This should be a
Speaker 2: huge pick me up. I hope you're smiling right now.
Speaker 2: I hope you're going, Oh, I know what I'm telling
Speaker 2: him about. I'll take your calls. Next RNL Carrier Sports
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred Wlwright making our
Speaker 2: way through the eight o'clock hour. The Indiana Hoosiers are
Speaker 2: Indianna Hoosiers are rolling back to try to answer and
Speaker 2: have with a touchdown near the end of the first
Speaker 2: quarter and now lead Oregon fourteen to seven. Yeah, buckle
Speaker 2: up on that one. About twelve minutes to go. In
Speaker 2: Milwaukee tonight, the NKU Norse leading the Panthers twenty one sixteen.
Speaker 2: The score, by the way, Best of luck to Abbe Seole.
Speaker 2: Abbe Seowle is a UC freshman. She will make program
Speaker 2: history this weekend as the first UC Bearcat to race
Speaker 2: in the World Athletics Cross Country Championships Tomorrow ten fifty
Speaker 2: five in the morning in Tallahassee, Florida. It's on TV
Speaker 2: on Peacock. She is a graduate of Mercy mcaulay High school.
Speaker 2: So best of luck and congrats to Abbe Sule on
Speaker 2: a really cool accomplishment and a big stage tomorrow. All right,
Speaker 2: let's see what we can make out of this one.
Speaker 2: I highly recommend the movie Eternity. Now, I will admit
Speaker 2: it's good. I had to be explained some things by
Speaker 2: Kelly and Peyton and they kind of rolled their eyes
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I'm not sure what did that mean?
Speaker 2: And they say, dad. But it really tremendous acting. It's
Speaker 2: a really fascinating storyline the way it's set up, and
Speaker 2: I just, you know me, I default to sports and
Speaker 2: I thought, way, man, if that movie is about souls
Speaker 2: showing up at this train station who are about to
Speaker 2: begin their after life, and they're beginning that after life
Speaker 2: in the moment, they were their happiest in life. And
Speaker 2: that's part of this storyline of the woman the age
Speaker 2: she is at because she had a husband who had
Speaker 2: died and she remarried. And not to get too deep,
Speaker 2: but it adds to the intrigue of this storyline. And
Speaker 2: I thought, willyamit, I'll just turn it into sports tonight,
Speaker 2: for when were we the happiest as a sports fan?
Speaker 2: I think because I leaned on him so much for advice,
Speaker 2: and most of it is accepted. I should begin this
Speaker 2: in Walton with UC Chris, how are.
Speaker 7: You always good? Talking to you?
Speaker 13: Lance?
Speaker 16: You know, as a obviously you know I'm gigantic Reds fan.
Speaker 16: Seventy five and seventy six were fantastic, But I was
Speaker 16: eight and nine, I was child. It was great for
Speaker 16: whiffleballs or plastic you know, helmets or wristbands or batting
Speaker 16: gloves and all that. That was great, But I quite
Speaker 16: I don't know if I should admit I enjoyed the
Speaker 16: nineties series because I was twenty three. I was an adult.
Speaker 16: I was able to go to the games, beers, you know,
Speaker 16: go out afterwards and talk about the games. It was fantastic.
Speaker 16: So that's the Reds. But you're missing the number one
Speaker 16: major major in any UC fan, the Huggins years. I mean,
Speaker 16: we were always ranked. You were able to talk crap
Speaker 16: to Xavier fans and the rest of the country. I mean,
Speaker 16: we went to the final four in the lead eight.
Speaker 16: So we lost to the final four in the Michigan
Speaker 16: and then I think in the Elite eight we got
Speaker 16: beat by Carolina. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 16: So, but every single year. They were good. They were
Speaker 16: always ranked. Hell, they were number one ranked in the
Speaker 16: country multiple years. So that was my happiest fan, being
Speaker 16: a graduate of the university, had season tickets and listened
Speaker 16: to every single ball game on the radio for the
Speaker 16: you know, now, and I'm almost sixty years old, I
Speaker 16: never miss a minute, you know, And I like fabulous here.
Speaker 2: I like your point because you were older, you were
Speaker 2: more mature, you had more life experiences, and you were
Speaker 2: able to appreciate it more at and older. I kind
Speaker 2: of like where you're going with that.
Speaker 16: No, it is, I mean, because if you noticed, I
Speaker 16: don't even pick on Xavier, Kentucky anymore or Ohio State.
Speaker 13: I don't.
Speaker 16: But back in my twenties and thirties, I was young
Speaker 16: and I would always pick how. I got in fights
Speaker 16: with Mike from Kentucky on air on Bob, you know,
Speaker 16: and we argued about the great mid West. You know,
Speaker 16: those days are over, you know. I suddenly listened to Zay,
Speaker 16: I listened to Byron and Joe every Xavier game.
Speaker 2: There you go, and you older and calmer.
Speaker 16: But the Huggins years is number one, and nobody can
Speaker 16: actually rebuke that.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is what you're telling me
Speaker 2: is that this topic has a chance to work.
Speaker 11: You like this.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you didn't ask me about this.
Speaker 15: I know.
Speaker 2: I was worried about the other one. I know, I
Speaker 2: know I was worried about. Kelly signed off on it,
Speaker 2: and I said, all right, I'm gonna roll with Kelly
Speaker 2: and and I'll ask you in the future.
Speaker 16: So well, I'm not gonna watch that movie because it
Speaker 16: sounded miserable. If you were miserable not understanding, I certainly
Speaker 16: won't understand it.
Speaker 9: I gotta go.
Speaker 2: I have a good weekend, all right, I'm getting another beer.
Speaker 2: Of course you are. No, it was good. It was
Speaker 2: a little it got a little deep sometimes and I
Speaker 2: got kind of lost in the flow of the movie
Speaker 2: a couple of points, and I turned to Kelly and
Speaker 2: Peyton and they got me back on board. Now, oh,
Speaker 2: what a treat. I'm gonna go from UC Chris, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to Loveling and welcome in.
Speaker 26: Fran How are you, oh, Lance, I'm doing well. And
Speaker 26: of course Friday Night's and the fun topic. Yes, so
Speaker 26: let me go back here. You're saying you're about ten
Speaker 26: or twelve years old. Yep, I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 26: when I was ten or twelve years old, nineteen sixty one,
Speaker 26: nineteen sixty two, nineteen sixty three. I hope you see
Speaker 26: Chris is still listening, because you see basketball was number
Speaker 26: one then. I don't know how he can top that.
Speaker 26: I mean, this town was crazy. They've won back to
Speaker 26: back championships the Ohio State. I mean I can name
Speaker 26: the guys Weisenham, Bolden, Facker, Yates, Hogue, and then the
Speaker 26: next year when Wilson and Bonham came in, I mean
Speaker 26: I was on cloud nine. I lived and died with
Speaker 26: those guys. As I've told you in the past, er five.
Speaker 2: Straight final fours, five extractly and then.
Speaker 26: That's the happiest time in my life. And I'm going
Speaker 26: to come up here with the saddest time on my
Speaker 26: life nineteen sixty three when they lose to Loyola in
Speaker 26: the final, could have had three in a row. That
Speaker 26: was unprecedented for college basketball back then, and I was,
Speaker 26: you know, crushed then that.
Speaker 9: Jerry, that's it, that was it.
Speaker 26: I rode the ride as long as I could, and
Speaker 26: that's still the happiest of my life.
Speaker 7: Let's just leave it at that.
Speaker 2: That is perfect.
Speaker 9: Hey.
Speaker 2: I hope you are well and I hope you'll pass
Speaker 2: on my best to your lovely wife. Phyllis. All right,
Speaker 2: I will. She is listening.
Speaker 26: Thank you, Lance for everything.
Speaker 2: Thanks Fran, take care all right? Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Those are two heavy hitters right out of the shoot.
Speaker 2: I like this taking in and running with it, and
Speaker 2: I love the the emotion and the attachment. And there
Speaker 2: is something too, the ability to just roll. They roll
Speaker 2: off your tongue, the lineups of those teams and the
Speaker 2: happiest time of your life. You don't need to stop
Speaker 2: and think about them, you know. It's like any like
Speaker 2: a conversation with Rose Morgan, Bege Perez, It just boom.
Speaker 2: Let's head to Tip City. Hey Luke, welcome to sports Talk.
Speaker 11: Hey Lance, I love love the idea of the topic.
Speaker 11: It's a really creative thank you. So let me let
Speaker 11: me take you back here for just a minute. Yes,
Speaker 11: I'm I'm thirty two years old, love the Reds, fan
Speaker 11: of just about every sport. But I'm gonna give you
Speaker 11: a story that a little bit goofy, but very impactful.
Speaker 11: So twenty ten, I'm a freshman at Bowling Green State University.
Speaker 11: I'm on the cross country team. My girlfriend at the
Speaker 11: time is on the volleyball team. We were high school sweethearts.
Speaker 11: Like any young freshman boy, I wanted to do whatever
Speaker 11: I could to impress her, and so my idea, along
Speaker 11: with somebody, was we were going to do everything we
Speaker 11: could to give them the best atmosphere at their volleyball
Speaker 11: games throughout the season. That turned into a group called
Speaker 11: the Falcon Fanatics, which today is still the official student
Speaker 11: section of Bowling Green State University. And it started with
Speaker 11: just a handful of guys by their senior year. Our
Speaker 11: senior year, we were studying attendance records. The best part though,
Speaker 11: was on her senior night they beat Akron. I'm hiding
Speaker 11: kind of in a corner. They're doing their senior night
Speaker 11: celebrations when of my buddy goes out there and hands
Speaker 11: out some flowers, gets to my girlfriend and says, unfortunately,
Speaker 11: unfortunately we have run out of flowers, but Luke has
Speaker 11: something for you. I walk out proposed to my girlfriend.
Speaker 7: Oh, she says, yes.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 11: They go on that season to win the MAC Championship
Speaker 11: and it was a Cinderella story. But I'm gonna bring
Speaker 11: it back to the Reds just for a second. I
Speaker 11: have said for years I think it would be incredible
Speaker 11: if the Reds had a small section at Great American
Speaker 11: Ballpark for students, college age kids, people who are willing
Speaker 11: to get the atmosphere going. I'm telling you, something magical
Speaker 11: could happen.
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, you have hit a home run on this.
Speaker 2: I had the hair standing up on my arms. That
Speaker 2: was wonderful. That was perfect for this topic. Thank you
Speaker 2: for calling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you Lance.
Speaker 2: That a great night? Are you as well?
Speaker 31: Oh?
Speaker 2: My goodness? Three for three out of the shoot? How
Speaker 2: blessed have I? I got people hanging out with me
Speaker 2: on a Friday night who are taking part of a
Speaker 2: topic we've cooked up and telling fabulous stories. Let me
Speaker 2: go to colrad Hey, Philip, what he got for me?
Speaker 12: Hello?
Speaker 23: This is really weak compared to everything of Hardy heard.
Speaker 23: My best remember of sports is being a participant in
Speaker 23: eighth grade and church soccer game at church soccer camp.
Speaker 23: I had played soccer in Chicago first, second and third grade,
Speaker 23: moved out to the bodies of Indiana, went to a
Speaker 23: church camp in eighth grade for seventh and eighth graders,
Speaker 23: and I made like six goals. The other team didn't
Speaker 23: make any at all. And the kids put me on
Speaker 23: their shoulders, oh, kured me right after the game.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know.
Speaker 22: So.
Speaker 23: I don't know if that counts or not, but as.
Speaker 2: Counts because it means something to you, and you put
Speaker 2: a smile on my face. When I hold I can
Speaker 2: I can imagine you on their shoulders. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: looking for tonight. Hey, thank you in a jury your weekend,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you you too, all right, thank you that.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm so excited about this. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2: I gotta get a check on news at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour. I've got a couple of lines open.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna keep rolling with this till nine. It's
Speaker 2: not Sterling tonight. He was in with Donnade earlier this
Speaker 2: morning because Sloany's out, and so that means Dan Carroll
Speaker 2: is in tonight from nine to midnight. But if you're
Speaker 2: just tuning in, we're back to the regular swing of
Speaker 2: things with sports Talk now on a nightly basis. No
Speaker 2: Bengal shows, I'll say, obviously outside of red season, So
Speaker 2: that leaves January February March for just sports talk for me,
Speaker 2: and on Friday nights, that's three hours, always concluding in
Speaker 2: the eight o'clock hour with the off the beaten Path topic.
Speaker 2: I'm all ears, I've got a stockpile of some I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use in the near future, but if you have one,
Speaker 2: let me know tonight. It's from the movie Eternity, which
Speaker 2: is a rom com romantic comedy, and it just deals
Speaker 2: with the after life. It's kind of a copy. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not that serious. It's serious, but it's not that serious.
Speaker 2: And I just thought, Man, if the people in this
Speaker 2: movie arrived to begin their after life in the happiest
Speaker 2: moment of their life, I said, if I ask sports
Speaker 2: fans what that moment would be in terms of the
Speaker 2: happiest moment of their life, what would they give me?
Speaker 2: And you have given me gold to this point. More
Speaker 2: calls ahead after a check on News Arnel Carrier Sports
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. We are
Speaker 2: cruising on this Friday night. Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling,
Speaker 2: Thanks to those adding in the insights on Twitter. Atlans
Speaker 2: Pacallister love to have you as a part of the
Speaker 2: conversation during the show. Outside the show, if you missed
Speaker 2: trags earlier, Mike Petrellia recapping the day that was with
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin. That's in podcast form and ready to oh
Speaker 2: listen now listen a little bit later at seven hundred
Speaker 2: WLW dot com and through the iHeart Radio app podcast
Speaker 2: presented by my friends at Modern Office Methods. We love
Speaker 2: Modern Office Methods. So the topic deals with the happiest
Speaker 2: moment in your life as a sports fan. If I
Speaker 2: could give you one, if I could give it to
Speaker 2: you from a a dad standpoint with Casey and Peyton,
Speaker 2: it would be Peyton being called up as a freshman
Speaker 2: to play in the state final four for Simon Kenton
Speaker 2: in the high school soccer final four. As a freshman,
Speaker 2: she got not only called up to be on the roster,
Speaker 2: got into the game and I'll never forget and I'm
Speaker 2: getting shows again, never forget sitting up in the stands
Speaker 2: and seeing her get up off the bench, starting to
Speaker 2: warm up and then going into the game and just
Speaker 2: the the sense of joy and excitement and also like nervousness, like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, she's in a state final game and
Speaker 2: she's a freshman. I said, just kind of get in,
Speaker 2: do your thing, and get out. I was so nervous,
Speaker 2: but I was so happy that day for her to
Speaker 2: experience that, and with Casey, it would be the combination
Speaker 2: of walking out of this place on the night where
Speaker 2: he sent me a text that he had made the
Speaker 2: juniversity baseball team at Simon Kenton and the sense of
Speaker 2: happiness at that point. Those would be ones that come
Speaker 2: to mind from a father standpoint. Let's go back to
Speaker 2: the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand,
Speaker 2: one eight hundred, the big one. How about union we go?
Speaker 2: Hey Brian, welcome, Hey Brian, good he mean Lance, great topic,
Speaker 2: Thank you? What do you got for me?
Speaker 18: I will head to a direction which I think you
Speaker 18: can relate to at some point, and that is having
Speaker 18: a child with a with a cancer diagnosis, which I
Speaker 18: did have one of a son that was diagnosed as
Speaker 18: a freshman in high school. Let's fast forward to March
Speaker 18: of twenty one, as a walk on at the University
Speaker 18: of Cincinnati baseball team, sitting up in the so you
Speaker 18: know how sports are, not everyone makes the travel team. Well,
Speaker 18: his first travel was to across town to Zavier. So
Speaker 18: my wife and I go, keep in mind, this is COVID,
Speaker 18: so we're staying on top of the hill on victory
Speaker 18: Parkway watching the baseball game. Well, Cincinnati's up nineteen to three.
Speaker 7: Well what do they do?
Speaker 18: They call left in number seventy seven into the game.
Speaker 18: So you talk about a problem. I'm going from high
Speaker 18: school to Zaba University and Cincinnati. In his first travel day,
Speaker 18: it was I mean, I like the rads, the Bangles,
Speaker 18: Notre Dame. But this is nothing like seeing your child
Speaker 18: compete after such a complex, harder illness. And then then
Speaker 18: we fast forward and played five years at the university
Speaker 18: since then graduated in twenty twenty four. So it was
Speaker 18: a great, great, awesome feelings.
Speaker 2: Oh what a great story. Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2: Congratulate and have a great weekend. All right, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Last thank you man hitting home runs tonight. Hitting home runs.
Speaker 2: By the way, he was checking in from Union, I
Speaker 2: was like passing on tips of things we discover. We
Speaker 2: went to a really cool coffee shop in Union two
Speaker 2: weekends ago called the Black Goose. If you're a coffee person.
Speaker 2: There ats a coffee shop and bakery and like antique store.
Speaker 2: And we found a butcher. We hit so many different
Speaker 2: butchers around this area. There's a place called the Strip
Speaker 2: in Union, which is really good and by the way,
Speaker 2: they have chicken tenders that they fry in tallow. It's
Speaker 2: just unbelievably good. My tips of the night. I like
Speaker 2: when I get tips, and I like to give tips.
Speaker 2: So those are my two tips of the night. How
Speaker 2: about Springfield? Hey, Mike, tell me a story.
Speaker 10: Well, I tell you.
Speaker 32: You and I've talked in the past. You and I
Speaker 32: are almost the same, exact same age. I just turned
Speaker 32: sixty here a couple of weeks ago, so we chewed
Speaker 32: the same ground at the same time. And if you
Speaker 32: think about it, I mean, I've got so many I
Speaker 32: could say were my greatest. But just think about in
Speaker 32: the era which we grew up, pre Internet, pre you know,
Speaker 32: all the other things that distract us. All we had
Speaker 32: was the TV and the radio or going to something
Speaker 32: in person. And you know, I'm just sitting there thinking
Speaker 32: and random ortar here the things that I experienced, sports
Speaker 32: were big.
Speaker 2: I'm a baby of seven.
Speaker 18: Boys and.
Speaker 10: Sports were big.
Speaker 32: So I mean I started out I barely remember it
Speaker 32: that I became a Miami Dolphins fan because of the
Speaker 32: seventy two seasons and because they had.
Speaker 7: A running back named Mercury Morris.
Speaker 32: My last name is and so U so a seventeen
Speaker 32: oh and o season, and then came the Big Red Machine,
Speaker 32: and then came Larry Bird in Magic Johnson, and then
Speaker 32: came the Celtics and the Lakers, and in there the
Speaker 32: Bengals of course in the eighty one game, in the
Speaker 32: eighty nine game, and then Michael Jordan comes around, and
Speaker 32: then the the pros playing in the Olympics, and uh
Speaker 32: then then you know Michael Jordan and the Bulls in
Speaker 32: the ninety I mean, just think of all of that
Speaker 32: was pre internet, and internet really didn't hit so what
Speaker 32: ninety five and we just lived the greatest in the
Speaker 32: greatest period of time period. And now you throw in
Speaker 32: there to nineteen eighty. I was our county's scoring champion
Speaker 32: in basketball and my team won the county championship in
Speaker 32: the eighth grade year, and and it just it was
Speaker 32: just one thing after another after another wrapped around sports
Speaker 32: until until the PC crowd and the lawyers and everybody
Speaker 32: else took it over. We we just when it when
Speaker 32: it came to sports. I mean the crowd that I
Speaker 32: ran with, I mean everything was about sports.
Speaker 2: Mike so Well said today, I just enjoyed it. Oh
Speaker 2: so Well said, thank you. For calling. All right, enjoy
Speaker 2: your enjoy your evening. I love this. I love this.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Hoosiers a machine, another turnover, another touchdown,
Speaker 2: Indiana Lade's twenty one to seven in the second quarter
Speaker 2: tonight at the Peach Bowl. Rolling on all cylinders at
Speaker 2: this point. How about in my stomping grounds, independence we go,
Speaker 2: Hey Mike, welcome to sports Talk.
Speaker 7: Hey Lance, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I am fantastic. How about you?
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 9: I'll do a real quick one that I gotta have one.
Speaker 12: It's more meaningful for me though.
Speaker 31: I'm born in nineteen eighty, so the Griffy trade was
Speaker 31: a big deal for me when I was just out
Speaker 31: of high school. Yeah, favorite player, and I remember trying
Speaker 31: to get home to dial up and try to find
Speaker 31: what I could about the details. Back then it was
Speaker 31: hard to get information. But that was a big moment
Speaker 31: in my life at that point in time. But then
Speaker 31: last year I listened to the Moega Show and I
Speaker 31: heard a guy named Ben on there talking about the
Speaker 31: Miracle League and the walk. Yes uh to to support that.
Speaker 31: So it was the day before the walk. I sent
Speaker 31: an email to their website, got a response back from Eric,
Speaker 31: and I was walking the next morning with him down
Speaker 31: there to the to the stage, so last minute, and
Speaker 31: it was it was crazy. It was a great experience.
Speaker 31: I think we're doing again this year. So it was fantastic.
Speaker 31: And like I said, it was the night before. I
Speaker 31: had no preparation, not sure what's getting into but it
Speaker 31: was a lot of fun, great meaningful and uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Great time, incredible. I'm glad you're shir Ben Otto Bena
Speaker 2: is the man in that that whole group that does
Speaker 2: that walk twenty one miles unbelievable. I'm so glad you
Speaker 2: brought that one up tonight. Thank you and have a
Speaker 2: great weekend.
Speaker 7: All right, all right, thanks laving.
Speaker 2: All right, now we are we are cooking, Holy cow.
Speaker 2: One more segment only one more segment, yep, one more
Speaker 2: squeeze and a couple of things that happened on this
Speaker 2: date in sports history. And then we'll prepare you for
Speaker 2: News at nine and Dan Carroll at nine oh eight.
Speaker 2: Let's head down the stretch with our final phone bank
Speaker 2: of stories for the off the Beaten Path topic. This
Speaker 2: is RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, and
Speaker 2: right here on seven hundred WLW. Now blance McAllister. Great
Speaker 2: working with Russ Jackson again tonight, just like the old
Speaker 2: days back in the late nineties, so many stations and
Speaker 2: frequencies and people ago. But great to be back with
Speaker 2: Russ running the show tonight. And appreciate the input along
Speaker 2: the way from callers who really took the topic and
Speaker 2: ran with it. So thank you. And again, the movie's eternity,
Speaker 2: and I think we've I think we've made the topic
Speaker 2: work as we kind of spun off that. Let's squeeze
Speaker 2: in a couple of more and if you want to
Speaker 2: jump in five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred, the big one, we'll go to Dayton and
Speaker 2: then the Brandon and Florida. Hey, Greg, welcome to sports Talk.
Speaker 11: Hey, how you doing Land?
Speaker 2: I'm very well, how about you?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 9: Good?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 33: I got two quick ones. Yeah, nineteen sixty one World
Speaker 33: Series Game three or four, my dad took me to
Speaker 33: the Crawsley Field to see that.
Speaker 23: Yeah it was.
Speaker 33: And again in nineteen sixty three into September when the
Speaker 33: Cardinals were in town. End of the year, Reggs player
Speaker 33: hit a fly ball left field. The Cardinal left fielder
Speaker 33: goes up the terrace and slips on the terrace and falls.
Speaker 33: My dad looks down at me and he says, that's
Speaker 33: the old man's last game. I think it was Stanman.
Speaker 7: Usual the last game.
Speaker 33: That Yeah, two great memories of Crosley Field.
Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. Perfect for tonight.
Speaker 25: That's all I got.
Speaker 2: That's all I need.
Speaker 14: Thank you, Thanks, all right, all right, these.
Speaker 2: See these story I just I love storytelling like you
Speaker 2: guys are telling great stories tonight. How about Brandon and
Speaker 2: Florida Ron walk up a sports talk. Hey, Hey, My.
Speaker 9: Greatest remembrance of a sports event was October twelfth, nineteen
Speaker 9: sixty nine. Joe Namath and the New York just came
Speaker 9: to Cincinnati and played at Knifford Stadium. I was a
Speaker 9: I was either a freshman or sophomore, and of course
Speaker 9: we couldn't afford tickets, but we climbed. There's a bunch
Speaker 9: of us. We went up on top of Tangamin Square
Speaker 9: there the building and watched that game. It was amazing.
Speaker 9: I mean, you see Joe names. They just wanted to
Speaker 9: I think we lost somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty
Speaker 9: to ten. But she's you know, you died and went
Speaker 9: to heaven. See something like that and.
Speaker 2: That is excellent, excellent. Hey, thank you for sharing.
Speaker 7: Ron.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, Joe, Willie Namath. How about Northern
Speaker 2: Kentucky last one of the night, I think Scott. Welcome
Speaker 2: to seven hundred.
Speaker 9: W l W.
Speaker 7: Land's first time caller.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: I have two stories to tell you if you have time. Yes.
Speaker 7: Number one the nineteen ninety Grads World Series. My boss
Speaker 7: sent me over to buy tickets for the playoff game
Speaker 7: and we actually got in wow.
Speaker 34: And my other story a little more emotional. My brother
Speaker 34: had signed up.
Speaker 28: Or the lottery of getting tickets for the NCAA found
Speaker 28: four yeah, and his wife was due right about the
Speaker 28: time of the game, so he gave me and my father.
Speaker 29: The tickets and I got to go to that with
Speaker 29: my father in Antonio. When they want when they wanted something,
Speaker 29: you man, oh man.
Speaker 5: I can.
Speaker 2: I can hear the emotion of your voice and it
Speaker 2: means a lot. You shared it tonight. Thank you and
Speaker 2: please call again sometime.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know he just made me hit on one. I'll
Speaker 2: close on and it's as a from the perspective as
Speaker 2: a son. He mentioned his dad, my happiest time in
Speaker 2: life as a sports fan. With my dad. We played
Speaker 2: together on our Baseball Heaven baseball team. We went to
Speaker 2: Baseball Heaven and Goodyear in I want to say two
Speaker 2: thousand and six, and my dad would have been what
Speaker 2: sixty three at the time. I guess right around sixty three.
Speaker 2: We played on the same team. We were managed by
Speaker 2: Jack Billingham. My dad played third base, started at third
Speaker 2: base for every game for that week for our team.
Speaker 2: We win the championship on a walk off base hit
Speaker 2: with my dad scoring the winning almost knocked my microphone down.
Speaker 2: With my dad scoring the winning run, bang bang, play
Speaker 2: at the plate, my dad beats the throw. We win
Speaker 2: the championship, and I'm playing with my dad on the
Speaker 2: same team. I hit five hundred for the week fourteen
Speaker 2: for twenty eight. Not thought I was keeping track or anything,
Speaker 2: and I also for for clarity, I did injure my
Speaker 2: hamstring early on. It wasn't pretty and I might have
Speaker 2: used the courtesy runner, but I was smoking the ball.
Speaker 2: Never forget. Jack Billingham came over towards the dugad after
Speaker 2: my fourth hit one game and he said that mcallisder
Speaker 2: eat spinach for lunch today, I'm gonna have to move
Speaker 2: you up in the batting order. I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: Jack billing my manager, but playing with my dad. And
Speaker 2: the first day after we were completely worn out and
Speaker 2: going back to the hotel room, he collapsing on our beds,
Speaker 2: going what have we done? But that that was really cool?
Speaker 2: All right? Let me let me close with a couple
Speaker 2: on this date. I'll take one more, one more, Chris
Speaker 2: and Dayton. We'll get the final story. Then I Chris
Speaker 2: fire Away, what do you got for me?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh.
Speaker 10: I was about thirteen, fourteen years old. I was at
Speaker 10: Riverfront Stadium. Bench's last game had just happened to go
Speaker 10: to the family down the street. Me and my best
Speaker 10: friend Dana. We were waiting outside for Johnny to come out.
Speaker 10: We were just all we wanted was Johnny Bench's autograph,
Speaker 10: the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 7: He never came out.
Speaker 10: But we were walking back to the car underneath the
Speaker 10: stadium and you get around to that backside and there's
Speaker 10: that back door there. Yep, Johnny Bench come walking out
Speaker 10: that door and I screamed Johnny and he's like, kids,
Speaker 10: be quiet, and I'm like, but my best friend's over there.
Speaker 10: I've got a caller, and he ended up signing both
Speaker 10: programs and it was one of the greatest days of
Speaker 10: my life. My mother ended up selling, throwing out the
Speaker 10: program and the tickets that were inside, and cleaned out
Speaker 10: my room. It was heartbreaking. But it was his last
Speaker 10: game in Riverfront Stadium and I had to assigned program
Speaker 10: with his signature on the his picture, and yeah, mom
Speaker 10: threw it out.
Speaker 7: But it's one of those.
Speaker 2: Things, you know, that is that is a story to
Speaker 2: end on tonight. I really appreciate you sneaking it in.
Speaker 7: Thank you, not a problem.
Speaker 10: I'm really glad I got to stalk to you.
Speaker 2: All right, great now you as well?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 2: That that was really fun. By the way, Indiana has
Speaker 2: scored again, my goodness, just absolutely steamrolling right now. Touchdown
Speaker 2: passed from Mendoza. It is depending the extra point. It'll
Speaker 2: be twenty eight to seven with three minutes left and
Speaker 2: the half. This Indiana team, Holy boy, if I could,
Speaker 2: if I could hear Luke Brenneman right now on the call,
Speaker 2: and how excited he must be with that call as
Speaker 2: the Indiana Hoosiers are out to a twenty one point
Speaker 2: lead in Atlanta tonight, A Juggernaut performance all right to
Speaker 2: end a couple of things that happened on this date
Speaker 2: in sports history. Nineteen fifty three, freshman basketball player Bevo
Speaker 2: Francis from is It I never remember? Is it Rio
Speaker 2: Grand Ryo Grand College. I should have asked Russ first,
Speaker 2: because he would know that Ryo Grand College. Freshman Bevo
Speaker 2: Francis scores one hundred and sixteen points in a one
Speaker 2: fifty to eighty five win over Ashland Junior College at Ashland, Kentucky,
Speaker 2: where I was born. By the way, boy, whenever I
Speaker 2: asked my dad about Bevo Francis, the stories he has.
Speaker 2: I once read a book about BiVO Francis. I think
Speaker 2: it was called Bevo Francis Rising Star, so I would
Speaker 2: highly recommend it if you can find it. This date,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight, u SE sophomore Oscar Robertson scores fifty
Speaker 2: six to lead the Bearcats to a route of Seaton
Speaker 2: Hall at Madison Square Garden, the Big O announced his
Speaker 2: presence with authority in New York City. Bearcats win one
Speaker 2: eighteen to fifty four. Nineteen seventy two, The longest winning
Speaker 2: streak in major professional sports is snapped when Milwaukee beats
Speaker 2: the LA Lakers one twenty to one oh four. The
Speaker 2: Lakers had won thirty three straight games. Wow uh nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine, just heard about him? Johnny Bench elected to
Speaker 2: the Baseball Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility.
Speaker 2: He was named on ninety six point four percent of
Speaker 2: the ballots. Can somebody explain to me how sixteen writers
Speaker 2: looked at their Hall of Fame ballot and said, I
Speaker 2: think I'll pass on Johnny Bench. Sixteen writers left Johnny
Speaker 2: Bench off their ballot. Nineteen ninety a theme Joe Morgan
Speaker 2: elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Red second baseman
Speaker 2: earns eighty two percent of the vote. Two thousand and six,
Speaker 2: oh Man Kobe Bryant. Kobe scores forty five against the Pacers,
Speaker 2: making him the first player since Wilt Chamberlain to score
Speaker 2: at least forty five points in four consecutive games. Two
Speaker 2: more to wrap it up. Two thousand and seven, cow
Speaker 2: Ripken Junior and Tony Gwynn elected to the Baseball Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. And finally this date, twenty twelve, Larkin gets
Speaker 2: eighty six point four percent of the vote and is
Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame and I'll be danged.
Speaker 2: Oregon turned it over again. Indiana with a sack has
Speaker 2: knocked the ball loose. I believe they have the ball
Speaker 2: and they do. This is absolute. I mean, juggernaut, isn't
Speaker 2: It isn't even the right word. I mean they are
Speaker 2: putting a whoopin' on Oregon two thirty two to go.
Speaker 2: In a half. IU has the ball at the Oregon thirty,
Speaker 2: leading twenty eight to seven. All right, wow, let me
Speaker 2: say this emotionally, I'm doing much better after that hour
Speaker 2: than I was with the first two hours. That Off
Speaker 2: the Beaten Path topic was the perfect pivot from our
Speaker 2: early Duke Tobin conversation tonight. I may have blacked out
Speaker 2: a couple of times during the first hour of the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you to Russ Jackson for producing. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: If you took the time to call, thank you. Let's
Speaker 2: do this again on Monday, three hours. A couple of
Speaker 2: things in the works. We'll see how the weekend goes
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it, and I hope you have
Speaker 2: a wonderful weekend. The news is next, and then Dan
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