WEBVTT - A Frogman Friday (Hour 3) 11/21/25 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.040 How's the stream stream commencing broadcasting on a five seventy 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.560 l A sports and streaming on the iHeartRadio while it's. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.640 The longest running afternoon sports show in the city. No 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:14.200 congratulations necessary. All traces of Fred Rogan have been removed. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:19.439 This is petros In Money, Thank You, Thank You, hosted. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.840 By Petros Papadas terrible person, He's the worst and Matt 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:23.720 money Smith. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.840 The pipes, the pipes, the pipe. 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Cogna Yukes, Petrosen Money in 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.320 five to seventy LA Sports Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.880 Dave Damn, the Scheck and I Solving the World's problems 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.080 in our commercial breaks six minutes at a time. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.080 Solve this quiz for me very quickly. Who's gonna win 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:21.360 the AFC West Broncos in control, the Chargers right behind them. Yeah, 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.559 Chiefs a diar five and five, they do. The Chiefs 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.440 do have a solid schedule ahead. It ain't a breeze. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.800 It's not a breeze, but it's home games are they're 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:30.600 tougher games. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.199 Ad Dallas ain't a gimmey. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.160 I just it's it's crazy not to say the the 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.240 Broncos because of how far ahead they are right now. Well, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.240 the Chiefs can't catch the Bronco. No, the Chargers have 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.320 to win out. Oh look, if the Chargers went out, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.520 they win the division because they'll sweep the Broncos and 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.760 there's no way they're not losing one more before they 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.600 face the Chargers in Week eighteens can the Chargers went 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.400 out with this offense on line's gonna be pretty tough 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.280 how long till Alt's back not coming back out at all? 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:57.080 Out for the year. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.240 I completely missed that. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.840 Yeah, out for the year. So that's rough. That's been 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:06.200 a hit. But suspect they'll knock off the Raiders. The 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.200 Eagles are an interesting one because they've struggled offensively. So 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.119 can you get into a little dog fight with them 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.560 and win by a field goal. And then after that, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.000 what do you do on a short week. You got 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.480 to go to Kansas City, you know, because the schedule 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.360 makers always do that to the Bolts. It's weird how 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.640 it happens. They're always playing there on Thursday nights on 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.480 short weeks. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.400 It is true, but you could drive the final stake 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.000 into the dynasty ongoing. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.720 And Jesse Minner has been very good against Patrick Mahomes 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.960 in his three games against him. He has done a 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.800 pre bang up job against him defensively. How about this, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.400 Max Wan from the seven to one to four is 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.320 our winner of the Grand Prize. He won Wednesday, so 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.799 he has now got the Resorts World Las Vegas four 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.040 pack at tickets to see the Raiders Broncos Grand Prize 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.359 Prize on NFL week on PMS. Way to go Max. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.200 Check out Good Morning Football Overtime. It just ended on 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.200 Fox eleven plus that's case. That's Channel thirteen here in town. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.920 So thank you to our friends over there Good Morning 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.680 Football over time on Fox eleven plus four helping us 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.840 out in the NFL all week with that fantastic week 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.959 of prizes for the people. I'm gonna cough. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.119 I was wondering what was going on there? Go ahead, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.200 you want me to keep talking. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.720 I got so excited about our NFL prize. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.639 Got choked up. Good for you, you're a human being. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.160 Well, anytime macOS the Resorts World in Vegas, he gets 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:25.760 very excited. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:26.239 That's right. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.280 I love it there, I absolutely love it. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.120 It's okay, where are your emotions on your sleeve? Friend? 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.080 What did I I've got so much sports stuff that 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.720 we did not get to because we were talking about anything. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.800 Whatever happens when when we get together, it's always a blast, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.160 and I'm trying to think of what do we got? 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.280 We got two hours to go still, man, So I'm trying. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.960 To figure out where we should start here because I 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.880 know we got Buha in the next segment, so we're 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.800 going to cover the basketball there. So I've got all 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.720 this stuff with my conspiracy college football. I do have 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.640 some college football, do it? You went a little bit? 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.240 Sure? All right? 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.960 Here we go to sorry of it. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.040 Hi, By the way, is acc definitely gonna put a 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:06.640 team in there. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.080 They have to. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.800 If they don't have to, they can reject a Power 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.920 five champ if they see fit to do so. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.720 I think they'll put Miami in there. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.039 If Pitt sweeps Miami and Georgia Tech, which is not 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.840 probable but possible, right, I don't think any team deserves 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:21.400 to go out of that. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.000 I think it's pretty hard for the CFP to keep 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.200 an ACC team out. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.560 Well, if you put yeah, sorry that you James Madison 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.599 is better than you, right, is not probably gonna happen. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:37.960 And so we got elimination games this weekend. My pal 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.040 Pammy is asking me to go to Cosm with them 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.960 on Saturday tomorrow for USC Oregon. So I might grab 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.279 my Colin cowhard glass of vodka cigar probably not, and 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.000 see if I can do a douchey summation of what 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.159 USC did at the half, only to watch them get 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.160 blown out by Penn State in the second half. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.440 Elimination game, by the way, out of any content, any contention. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.279 While that's the question, is it an elimination game for 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.960 Oregon as well? Yes, you think so? With two losses? 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.839 If they they if they knock off Washington with two losses, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:11.800 they can't get in. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.560 All right, Maybe I get maybe I should back off 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.520 that proclamation, but it will be difficult for them because 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.000 that by definition puts them out of the conference title. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.680 Because and it would be hard to put them in 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.560 over sc with a head to head loss, who also 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.200 would have two losses. You're right, So it is an 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.720 elimination game. You're right, because they're not going to put 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.640 more than than three. They're going to put in Indiana, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.520 Ohio State and whoever wins this game. That's a great point. Yeah, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:37.680 so yeahlminated India. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.120 It's remarkable that my alma mater is not just going 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.760 to make it for a second straight but is a 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.320 lock to make. If they right, it'll blow up Purdue 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.799 sixty to nine. They're going to beat Purdue obviously again. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.680 And if they lose to Ohio State in the conference 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.800 title game, in a respectable way, I think you can 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.360 make a case that they're still one of the four 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:57.880 best teams. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.440 Think so yeah, in a respectable way, they get blown 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.080 off the field, one loss possible, could they slip out 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.360 of the top four? Oh yeah, ole Miss if ole 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.279 Miss ends up with one loss. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.320 But ole Miss isn't going to finish with one loss. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.200 This is the hash that gets settled in the last 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.200 quarter or so of the college football season where teams 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.119 have to play each other and there's no tie available, right, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.400 so these teams are going to knock each other off 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.840 and we'll clarify things for fit. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.479 Either Georgia or Ole Miss will get knocked out of 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.039 where the top four I got you. One will stay 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.760 in the other one cannot make it. And that's a 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.599 great point. Yeah, so Indiana will stay in as they should. 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.920 And by the way, UCLA fans, maybe put your eyes 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.719 on that North Texas Rice game as the most interesting 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.760 of the weekend, so you can get your eyes on 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.719 your potential next head coach, because maybe you go the 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.159 path we've talked about this, Maybe you end up going 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.560 the path that Indiana went with Signetti when they plucked 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.040 him from James Madison, and you go the route of 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.960 Eric Morris at North Texas hit. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:06:59.559 The ground running. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.360 Yeah, exactly, And if AVA wants another And by the way, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.160 there's something crazy going on there, we'll have to talk 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.560 to Bolch next week about the uh, the tax fraud 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.360 that's going on their kates. Bad stuff there, bad stuff. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.600 I don't know what's going on with the big business 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.360 element of the Rose Bowl versus so Fie, but I'm 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.000 telling you that is a bad move that is not 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.120 going to help. It's just doesn't do a program. It 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.720 doesn't do any it's gonna make it worse. It's the 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:23.200 same thing. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.040 It's just down the four or five instead about the 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.960 Pasadena you know, up the the one on one to 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:28.760 the one thirty four. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.720 But it's a little bit worse. It's a little bit 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:32.320 further away. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:33.720 No, it's it's I don't know, what do you think 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.280 it's it's probably can't tailgate. It's so fine, you can't 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.560 tail games. You tailgating is a big I. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.600 Mean, the Rose Bowl is one of the three best 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.320 college football tailgating experiences that I've that I've had. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.520 It's just been so far. It's so far from campus. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.240 As Petros has said, they got to build a place 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.360 on campus, which they'll never do. So there's really no 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:53.840 good Sillies. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.720 What are you catering though, towards the fan base of 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.400 students that don't travel and barely go to basketball games 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.600 one hundred yards away from the dorms already? You cater 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.400 towards the alumni who are driving from Orange County, the 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.040 Ie San Diego and they don't care where it's after 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.640 crevit anyways. Yeah, and now they can't tailgay they're at 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:09.760 so far it is a. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.520 Bad look that vacuus Rose Bowl. When when you look 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.440 at it and they're playing a big time game or 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.640 big time foe and it's half full, it's it ain't 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:19.080 a great. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.760 Like Eric Morris, Drew Messta Maker bring him both here, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:27.040 the quarterback whisperer that made cam Ward, then made Patrick Mahomes, 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.400 that made Baker Mayfield and now has his superstar at 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.360 North Texas at nine and one. Maybe they sneak in 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.240 as the number twelve team, you know instead of two lane. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.160 That's your guy. So watch that North Texas versus Rice 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.079 game at like four thirty ish and then figure out 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.120 the tax fraud case with the shelter thirty seven crap 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:45.679 that's going on. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:46.480 That's a bad scene. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.880 And hawaiiun LV that's right, watch that too tonight tonight 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.440 seven thirty pm. Jo Bam Bouha gonna join us. I 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.240 guess a little bit early. So we got a break 0:08:54.240 --> 0:09:00.839 here on the Lakers. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.600 We've made it even easier to take LA Sports with 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.319 you this summer. Make AM five to seventy or your 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.880 favorite AM five seventy LA Sports podcast a preset on 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.320 the iHeartRadio app using Apple Car Play or Android Auto 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.520 road Trip all summer with LA Sports. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.840 That's Jo Say and Monday five to seventy LA Sports 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.440 Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We have a full 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.480 four hour show today and while Clippers play tomorrow Sunday 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.720 NFL Football Big One Chiefs versus Colts, the news around 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.280 town is all about the Dodgers and their dynasty and 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.080 how Mark Walter, owner is going to extend that fairy 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.160 dust that he has sprinkled on the Boys in Blue 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.520 three World series titles on his watch will now be 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.720 applied to the Forum Blue and Gold. And here to 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.720 help us make sense of the latest news, Andrew Friedman 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.120 Farhans eighty going to be consulting the front office of 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:57.000 the Lakers is the great Yovann Boujat. We certainly appreciate it, Yovan. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.360 What's happening? 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:58.640 I'm doing well? 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.000 How are you great? How did you take the news 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.000 of Freedman? Anxiety kind of being the guys that are 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:11.440 tabbed early surprised, not surprised, temporary, Like, what do you 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.120 take away from this not surprised? 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.439 I think it makes a lot of sense, especially when 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:22.400 you think about that Mark Walter is a busy guy 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:28.040 and he needs help with running multiple franchises and tapping 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.880 into TWG Sports, the entity that he created to oversee 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.520 all his sports holdings. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.280 I think that makes a lot of sense. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.240 And to your earlier point about the fairy dust from 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.400 the Dodger side, like, I think that has to be 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.280 the goal here, right, Like, the Dodgers are not only 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:50.280 arguably the best and the most well run organization in baseball, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.000 but arguably in sports right now, right So I think 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.880 if the Lakers, that should be the goal and the 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.000 standard for the Lakers is not only being the best 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.040 and most well run organization in basketball, but in sports period. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.480 So if they can apply some of the structure and 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.199 logic and process from what they did with the Dodgers 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.440 to the Lakers, I think that makes all the sense 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:14.920 in the world. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.880 So in terms of just like you said, makes sense 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.680 but temporary, do you think we'll see like the same 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.960 sort of application they had with the Dodgers, where hey, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.880 we're going to get Friedman and on top of Freedmen, 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.600 we're going to get Anthropolis, and then we're going to 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.440 get Gomes and then we're going to bring anxiety. Is 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.439 that sort of what you envision some of these number 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.160 twos or threes from around the NBA are going to 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.360 be plucked and we'll build this super office, super front 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.800 office like they date in baseball. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.960 Yes, that is my understanding with the goal with the 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.440 front office moving forward is they want to bring in 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.760 the best and the brightest, and there's no salary cap 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.199 with the front office, right, so you can poach and 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.000 pluck people from different front offices around the league, bring 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:01.319 in the best scouts and the best analytics people and 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.800 the best player development people, and just in terms of 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.720 how you structure the organization like this is where I 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.440 think Mark Walter's fingerprints are going to be super important 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:16.040 in terms of just turning this into a top notch, functioning, 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.840 well oiled machine. So I think, you know, the Lakers 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.160 have I've talked about this before, but in some departments 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.160 they'll have two to three people, and some of the 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.680 top organizations in the NBA have five to six people. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.680 So I think it's both about quantity and quality here 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.760 in terms of bringing in the best and spending whatever 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.240 you know that price requires, and then also bolstering those 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.720 different groups within the front office. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.120 To have as many. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.679 People as the top organizations, if not potentially more so. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.560 I think this is the one area where there's no 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.240 salary cap. You know, it is different, but comparing baseball 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.679 to basketball in terms of how it works with the 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.000 rosters and how much you can spend and whatnot. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.600 But this is an area that if you can. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.319 Build the best front office in the NBA we've seen, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.640 like looking at what OKC has been able to do 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.079 over the last fifteen years or so, you can do that, 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.000 you can be well set up for decades to come. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.480 So I think that that is the goal right now 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.400 with how they're trying to build this out. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.320 I'm interested in talking about the proletariat, the working class, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.679 the guy's actually out on the floor. But before we 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.640 move on from the bourgeois level here, how long is 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:35.360 Jeanie Buss a part of this executive wing of the Lakers. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.760 It seems like, well, we know she's the last bus 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.320 at this point. Is she on her way out the door? 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.040 Is she going to stick? 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.080 I think she's going to stick. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.720 I mean as of right now that they have an 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.880 agreement for her to be on as the governor for 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.000 the next five seasons at a minimum. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.880 So you know, we've seen with the. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.120 Dallas situation and Mark Cuban it was more of a 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.640 handshake deal with Wick Grosspec and Boston. It was a 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.560 multi year agreement, but then that obviously ended up being altered. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.640 So I mean, I don't want to rule out anything here. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.720 I think there is a scenario in which, you know, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.679 maybe at some point in the future that that changes 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.160 or that timeline is maybe three years instead of five years. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.960 But as of right now, with what is currently agreed to, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.240 it is a five year minimum with her still as 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.880 the face of the organization, that the governor for the organization. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.120 So you know, it. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.120 Sounds like that was a pretty big part of this deal. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.000 And then she already had a working relationship and you know, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.680 rapport with Mark Walter previous to the sale. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.720 Obviously he was in my minority owner. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:49.200 But I mean, it is interesting though, because in most scenarios, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.080 like the governor is the majority owner of the franchise, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.120 and I wonder longer term, how the NBA feels about 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.320 these situations where there is a minority owner presenting sort 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.160 of the face of the ownership group and just in 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.280 terms of Board of Governor's meetings and all those things. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.280 So I would not be surprised if it changes at 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.480 some point in the future. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:11.560 But it does not. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.160 Sound like change is imminent and we're going to hear 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.120 of a grander change at some point in the coming 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.840 days or weeks or even months. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.840 All right, man, Booha, does it on Buja's block, Subscribe 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.600 to it on YouTube, on Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:32.320 Apple podcasts as well. That's b u ha apostrophe, Yes, block, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:37.000 the block belongs to him. What about Rob Polinka, Buha? 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.120 Because that extension was done I believe if I memory 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.840 serves correct prior to the sale. I think if I 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.480 remember right, yeah, it was okay. And like I look 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.680 at Polinka and because I have and you know, planted 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.840 my conspiracy theory about the Dancis trade well before other 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.080 folks hopped onto that and the immediacy after it was consummated, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.520 he hasn't really done much. The deals have been, in 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.640 my opinion, sort of orchestrated by Clutch for lack Anthony Davis. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.040 The first round picks haven't been great. I look at 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.000 the second round picks and the Austin Reeves is like 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.360 Nick Mazela deals. So how do you think they feel 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.520 about Polenka. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.720 My understanding is he is in good standing right now, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.440 and to your point, he recently got an extension. He 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:24.120 executed the Lukadantris trade, which you know, on its face, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.400 of course a lot of it has to be blame 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.000 at the feet of Nico Harrison, but I think it 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.880 was a master stroke from Polinka in terms of keeping 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.440 Austin Reeves out of the deal, keeping an additional first 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.960 round pick out of the deal, even keeping Dalton connect 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.920 out of the deal, who value was much higher at 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.960 that time and is obviously, you know, not panned out 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.120 the way that the Lakers were hoping up to this point. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.160 But I mean, like, of course, you do the Lukadantis 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.920 trade ten out of ten times, so I don't want 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.960 to give him too much credit for that specifically, but 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.640 the fact that he was able to negotiate and maneuver 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.920 that deal the way he did, I do think he 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.960 deserves a lot of credit because I don't think any 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.280 GM just placed in that scenario would. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:08.520 Have done that. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.920 Because really, you could have. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.280 Made an argument and I would support this, like even 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.640 if you threw in Austin Reeves and an additional first 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.040 round pick, the Lakers still win that trade. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.000 You associated with where Austin was at at the time. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.720 Obviously now he's viewed in a different light, but I. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.679 Think he deserves a lot of credit for that. To 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.640 your point, I think he's nailed a lot of the 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.720 big things right, like the Ad trade, even though that 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.199 was clutch driven to an extent, like he still executed that. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.760 I think, trading out of the Russell Westbrook situation, having 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.080 the patients to let the asking price come down from 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.200 two picks to one pick, and having that extra pick, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.480 which now you know, I think partly played into the 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.960 Luca trade. Like he has been patient at the right times, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.679 and I think executed a lot of big vision things in. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:58.920 The proper way. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.159 But I do you think if you look at the 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:06.680 minutia and like the Alex Caruso situation or some of 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.160 these situations where they drafted well, but then they gave 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.800 guys like Austin Reeves or Max Christie shorter term contracts 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.640 that ended up having them enter free agency a bit 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.160 earlier than the Lakers had to pay up earlier than ideal. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.560 Like there's been a lot of like the details that 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:30.520 I don't think have been smooth sailing with this front office. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.560 So I think that's where Mark Walter coming in and 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.480 adding in advisors. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.600 And new voices in the front office. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.439 I think at times it's been very insular, in a 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.719 bit of an echo chamber over the last half decade, 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.119 and I think the goal should be bring in people 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.160 with no ties to the Lakers, bring in people who 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.399 don't know Rob, who don't know Genie, who have no 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.679 relation to Showtime or Kobe Shack or even Kobe Palell, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.800 and just bring in some new voices, some new perspectives, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.640 and people who had success in other organizations doing things 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:04.120 in a. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:05.440 More modern way. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.000 So certainly I think there's a lot to nitpick and 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.399 a lot of criticize. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:10.959 Over the last half decade. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.880 They did win a championship under his stewardship, they did 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.080 make another conference finals, and they did execute the Luca trade. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.520