1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: This is Jordan every missus, Vince done. This is Jaden Schwartz. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: This is Jared mccamnon ya, this is Ryan Landren. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: This is Mattie Banier's. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cracking Weekly with Mike Betton. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: When we say we're gonna get you geared up on 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: game day, we really mean we're gonna get you geared 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: up on game day. Not just for Cracking this morning, 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: but Kracking Weekly sets the table for an incredibly busy 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: stretch coming up over the course of the next seven days. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Mike Benton with. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: You ever of fits you al Konisky with us shortly 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: as well, And of course you can hear this podcasted 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: on demand by finding the Cracking Audio Network via the 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. Just sign up for free to get it 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: at sports radio kjar dot com. Four games coming up 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: this week, three at home, a one off trip as 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: well to Utah. We're gonna talk more as far as 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: what's ahead here on the Crack Inside. Additionally, Jonathan Davis 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: joining us. You can hear his work routinely as a 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: correspondent for XM NHL Network Radio covering a ton of 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: the West Coast, and we're gonna get with Jonathan in 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: just a little bit here too, talk about the cracket 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: heading into this week. Additionally, matters around the Western Conference 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: and how the Krakens stack up against the likes of Minnesota. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: The Kings, and much more. 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: Jonathan Davis joining us on the show later on today. 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: But first things first, here's a little taste of what 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: happened this last week on calls from Everett fits you 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: and Alkiniski told it up top. 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: Montor shot breaks his stick back to Toleran. It scores 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: Ellie tolanand right as the power play expires, but it's 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 4: the kracket on the board. It's a free one at 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: Minton oiler lead Well. 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: I'll turn it out with a broken stick. Shot from 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: Montour at the point, but it gets down to Tolben 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: it he doesn't break his ship. It's stick on the 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: shot and it finds the back of the net. Three 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: one admotor. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 4: Come Seattle into the defensive zone of the high slot 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: as Winterton forced off. 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: The puck now. 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: Turned over in front, backhead scars, Freddy Gadreau forces the turnover, 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: undresses Calvin pickered out in front and the Seattle crackhead 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: pulled back to it in one twenty seven seconds to 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: play in the first three to two Edmonton well. 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: Freddy Gudroau showing why it's so important to go on 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: the attack on the on the fore check, and it 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 5: was Leon Dreisidle in the hash marks right in front 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: of his own goal that gave up that puck to 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: Freddy Gudreaux. And it was a nice toe drag move 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: that he got skinnered to bite on. Came back against 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 5: the grain, buried it in three quarters of an open 53 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 5: necks lark. 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: It wings getting behind the defense, shot light side from 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 4: Raymond and a big. 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Hit same cay I towing the cards. 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: Anybody hears turns away Raymond's thresher now everly to mar 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: shot Brandon Montour from the right circle, goes far down 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: and the Seattle crack and tie this game one one, 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: three four left. 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: In the first well, this place starts back in the 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: seattle out of the ice many years with a great. 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Move to alleviate a redwind. 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 5: Checker feeds it up to him and every everybody grunts 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 5: gets the offensive. New line, creates some traffic, draates the 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: screen drops into Montour. Montour goes blacker side top shelf. 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: This title this game. 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: Titan Washington gets it off the board here side done, 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: Rick Whine, Larson fires start a laser from Larsen on 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: the right side, has a crack and Reid tie the 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: game thirteen sixteen to play. 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 6: The second two's aside well some. 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: Excellent four checking by the cracking at the other end 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: of the ice, Carja moves that buck back to dun 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: Dunn slided it over to Larsen and Larson with a 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: se n shot for three different players, gets his second 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 5: of the season miss Games title. 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Tuber behind the cage in front of break it bick 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: same by Joey to card. 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: He goes down and slaps it out of mid air 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: with the glove. The cracket ice it the other way, 82 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: but my goodness, Joey's a card, a. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Goal saving save. 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: Nine twenty four, letting the second tie a Timen right 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: sign Tolvenen up. 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Top shot Larsan sky. 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: Plong bomb from Adam Larson Reeds erected in by Chandler Stevenson. 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 6: He broke his stick on the shot. 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: The Seattle Crackett take a three two lead seven fifteen 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: to play. 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 5: In the second well, Chander Stevenson posts up with that 92 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: slot area Hashmarks presentsu stick. Carson gets that shot off 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 5: and it goes off the shaft, but Chandler Stevens stick 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: off the left ear of John Gibson boh and into 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: the natal Linger back again. 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 7: Patrick Kane walks in and scores two twenty nine a 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 7: play in the third. 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: The Red Wings take the lead late for to three 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: NHL goal for nine to seven for Patrick Cage. 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: So the bottom line the last two games matter off 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: at the previous five havn't gone exactly has planned the 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: Krack and dropping a nine to four defeat to the 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: Edmonton Oilers this last Thursday, where the experience was quite 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: combustible when you consider the Kracking going through goaltending and 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: penalty kill issues that night, and Edmonton icing as close 106 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: as a guest to a healthy lineup, especially on the 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 3: power play, and the Kraken finishing on the tough side 108 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: of his to read that night, nine goals giving up 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: new franchise record for one game, four power play goals 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: giving up, also a new franchise record for one game. 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: The Kraken were so close very next night this past 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: Saturday to snapping out of their recent skid, but a 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: pair of goals by Detroit in the latter stages. Each 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 3: a period two in period three were a game changer, 115 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: and Detroit eventually getting a four to three win on 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Patrick Kane's game winning goal with two twenty to nine 117 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: left in regulation. Tough to take because the Kraken putting 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: together a pretty solid effort for much of the first 119 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: forty minutes, despite Detroit cashing in on their only man advantage. 120 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: So going to. 121 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: Bed, the Kraken ending the evening three points out of 122 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: the cut line in the Western Conference, their record eleven 123 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: nine and six, twenty eight points and three back each 124 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: of the Edmonton Oilers and the Utah Manmoth. After the 125 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: loss to Detroit, here's more reaction for up defenseman brand 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: A Montur. 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 8: As a defensive group, I mean, how much did the 128 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 8: other night just impact the group as a whole, and 129 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 8: how much how important was it to come back and 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 8: just try to do a better showing here. 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 9: I don't think it impacted really anything other than maybe 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 9: a little reset, get back to kind of basics. But yeah, 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 9: good game, good team over there, desperate team over there 134 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 9: that needs some wins as well, and you can't let 135 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 9: up one late at the late in the game. 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: There. 137 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 8: How do you feel the guys played overall? I mean 138 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: it looks I mean, guys came back, we took the lead. 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 8: It looked like you did a lot of what you 140 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 8: wanted to do, a. 141 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 9: Little bit more energy, you know, got in the for check, 142 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 9: a little bit more of zone time. Third period. Kind 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 9: of a little boring think on our side, but kind 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 9: of team that's pressing to get collect points as well, 145 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 9: and they found one late. 146 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 8: We've talked a lot about creating more scoring chances for 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 8: the team. It looks like lately you've been getting a 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 8: lot more puts to the net. 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 6: I mean, how much? 150 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 8: How much has the shoot first mentality? 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 9: Do you think me personally or team? 152 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: Uh? 153 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I guess we don't we you know, 154 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 9: we have a tough time scoring goals. No that we 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 9: can't score goals. It's just not going in or we're 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 9: just not getting enough to the net or making a 157 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 9: hard on our goaliet making hard on the d. So 158 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 9: the best way to kind of get out of that 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 9: is to shoot more pucks at net. And yeah, we're 160 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 9: trying to. We're trying to get on there. Last couple 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 9: of games, we've got a few more. But again, that's 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 9: still something that we can keep keep working on. 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: All right, Well, here we are with the Crack and 164 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: still hanging around this playoff mix, but after what was 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: a tough one to take on Saturday without further ado 166 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: ever it fits you, Al Kadisky here for our roundtable. 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Jonathan Davis for Serious XM NHL Network ready to be 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: joining us a little bit later on here for an 169 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: outlook of the Western Conference teams on this schedule this week. 170 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Here. 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: But I mean, guys, let's first just get into it 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: from this past week and just get right into the 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: deep end. And I'll kind of categorize this from two 174 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: places shout outs and then concerns. And I'll begin here 175 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: with this because for all intents and purposes, is you 176 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: take that Thursday game and just throw it out the window. 177 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: It was a low point onlike maybe any other. So 178 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: a lot of this, from what I'm looking at, is 179 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: more geared to more focus towards Saturday against the Red Wings. 180 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: So my shoutouts here to begin with the second period 181 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: on Saturday, and even going back a little bit into 182 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: the first barad it showed that the Krack and were 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: in control of this and against a very skilled team 184 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: and a team that can make a sweat defensively any 185 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: given night, and I think for the body of work 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: that they have built up trying to stay away from 187 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: the penalties. That was a big issue of course early 188 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: in the game, and it was a carryover from Edmonton. 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: Five on five play looked fantastic, and then they found 190 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: a way to put their foot on the gas pedal 191 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: and finding ways to get offense from their defense, and 192 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: it clearly showed that Detroit was giving them point shots 193 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: and the Kraken kept going right back. 194 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: To that well over and over and over. 195 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: Secondly, I think for me is Lane Lambert and he 196 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: made a tough decision sitting Jamie Alexiak, but it's becoming 197 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: clear there are no favorites on this team, and if 198 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: you have to sit, you sit, and that's called accountability. 199 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, Alexiak's a pro. He's not the first VET 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: in this league, of course, to take a seat in 201 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: the press box and a situation like this, and the 202 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: odds say that he'll be better off here for this, 203 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: but yet it sends a crucial message here, I think 204 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: to the rest of this entire team as far as 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: what Lane Lambert wants to set in place. My third 206 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: shout out here for this week is puck play. I 207 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: thought it was much better for Saturday, more shot attempts 208 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: as well, less one and done's and there was a 209 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: shooter's mentality which got better as the game went along, 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: but then unfortunately dried up in period three. My concerns 211 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: and I'll just get through this year to clear the 212 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: floor for you guys. First off, the Thursday clunker, because 213 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: goaltending and special teams had a rough night for the 214 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: Ages and has cleared the crack and knew what they 215 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: had to do to basically get out of the gate 216 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: and respond here for Saturday. Secondly, rush chances at the 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: wrong time against Detroit, and it was late in period two, 218 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: late in period three, and this came back to haunt them. 219 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: Third the penalty kill. They're still in one right now. 220 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: It's clear something's very amiss and they're letting too many 221 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: passes get through the box through the interior. But it 222 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: also puts on a strain I think for not taking 223 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: a penalty which can affect teams of five on five. 224 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: That's my concern right there. The Kraken, we're good at 225 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: that for the most part. On Saturday, but you've got 226 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: to be good at this again, coming up here against 227 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: Minnesota where they own the ninth best power play in 228 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: the entire NHL. 229 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a lot. 230 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: That's a lot to digest. I mean, I think you're 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: spot on. I think for me, the shout out that 232 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: I will give is just I think Saturday as a whole, 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: stopping at the result. You know, they needed a bounce 234 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: back from Edmonton. I like the game they played against 235 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: the Wings. It was a heartbreaker. You know, Patrick Kine 236 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: is as good of a goal scorer as we've seen 237 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: in our generation. You know, he's he's scored a million 238 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: of those type of goals and eighty third career game 239 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: winning goal. 240 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: For that one. 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: So but yeah, man, you know this week was it was. 242 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: It was a frustrating week for a variety of reasons. 243 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: I think, you know, Alan and I were talking about this, 244 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: anytime you put up four you should win the game, 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: unless you gave up nine. And I think Jordan Ebery 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: pretty much said all of that in his media availed 247 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: before the Detroit game. 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: But no, I like the puck play this week. 249 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: I like the response in in the second period, But 250 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: I think overall the game I Also, I'm gonna give 251 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: a special shoutout to Vince Done, who are going to 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: revisit in my in my three Stars week, I'm gonna 253 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give a shout out. 254 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 6: To Vince Done because. 255 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: For the first time, I think in a couple of games, 256 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: he stood up for for his team. And I'm not 257 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: saying he hasn't done it. I'm not calling him out 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: in particular, but there have been a number of occasions 259 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 4: in the last handful of games where Berkeley Catton, where 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: Freddy Gadreau, a handful of others have been taken the 261 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: task by other teams, and the Kraken didn't have the 262 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: physical response that I think they should have had. I'll 263 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: go back to the Saturday game against Edmonton, right, say 264 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: what you want about Darnol Nurse and Marshmitt and all 265 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: that other stuff that was. 266 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Going on and on Saturday. 267 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: Off about it last Saturday. 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know I went off on it last week, 269 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 4: but it's like, you know, where was that in the 270 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: second period? I didn't need that in the third period. 271 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 4: So we're gonna chase Darno Nurse. We're gonna go around 272 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: and do all that. 273 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 6: Tiki tac stuff. 274 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: But when Freddy Gadroau gets two handed into the wall, 275 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: when Berkeley Catton gets plastered against the boards and there's 276 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: no response, that was bothersome to me. 277 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: That's a concern to me. 278 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: So I'm going to give Vince Dunn, you know, a 279 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: shout out for in that game against Detroit, trying to 280 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: mix it up and trying to be a shift disturber, as. 281 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: We like to say. 282 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: So those are my thoughts following the last couple of games. 283 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll just add onto that too. You know, 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: the Vince Done standing up for Jordan Everley after he 285 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 5: took an elbow to the face. You know, Vince Dunn 286 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 5: didn't fight, didn't spare it, didn't take a penalty, but 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: he responded right away. And I think as a player 288 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 5: on an opposing team, if you know that someone's coming 289 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 5: for you, if you do something on a line in 290 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: this case it was Vince Done, guess what, you're less 291 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: less likely to do. It doesn't mean it's not going 292 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: to happen, but you're less likely to do it. Now 293 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: the opposite, It's also true if there is no response, 294 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: then guess what. All twenty guys on the team, they're 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 5: all tough guys. Everybody's a tough guy because they know 296 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: they can be a tough guy, and so other teams 297 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: need to know that there will be a response if 298 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 5: they step out a line, and I don't think right 299 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: now that's the case. So yeah, I agree with the 300 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 5: kudos to Vince Done. I think the other thing about 301 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: the game against Detroit, the four to three loss, is 302 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: this time there were no self inflicted wounds, you know, 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: not the last Edmonton game that won. 304 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Before that. 305 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: We saw bad changes, we saw bad penalties, selfy neutral zone. 306 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 10: Players couldn't catch a pass. It was very sloppy. Yeah, 307 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 10: it wasn't that in that loss. So, you know, Mike, 308 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 10: you and I talked about this in the post game. 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 10: I guess, you know, maybe on paper, a step forward. 310 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 10: Obviously the result is the same, a loss in regulation, 311 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 10: but a step forward. I think to make that next step, 312 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 10: they're going to have to get this special team's thing 313 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 10: sorted out. And again I'm not saying you're turning it 314 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 10: into a twenty twenty five percent power play overnight and 315 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 10: one hundred percent on the penalty kill, but you've got 316 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 10: to start working your way back up the standings right 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 10: now at the bottom with the penalty kills. So something's 318 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 10: got to change there. Ros that will be a weak 319 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 10: spot going forward. 320 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the you know the power play, It's funny you 321 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: say that because I'm gonna use I'll use Detroit Edmonton 322 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: clearly because they're the last three teams that the crack 323 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: in the three games they've had. You've got Minnesota coming 324 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: in here. You've got the La Kings coming in here 325 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: as well, and then you go to Utah. You've got 326 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: some really good skill on the teams that you're about 327 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: to face and that you have faced. And I think 328 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: the biggest difference that I've noticed between Seattle's power play 329 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: and the other power plays are that the Red Wings 330 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: and the Oilers they are zipping that puck around it is, 331 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: they're stretching out the PK. It is scene passes, rink wide, 332 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: dot to dot, back door tap ins. 333 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 6: You know. 334 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: The the Kraken PK seemed just to be in a 335 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: blender half the time. And then so I'm looking at 336 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: those power plays and yes, you give credit to Connor 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: McDavid and Lean drys and Dylan Larkin, Maurice Sider. 338 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: You've got to break it to. 339 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: Break it, You've got a number of high skill guys 340 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: that let's frank, let's say it. 341 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not throwing smoke here, I'm not throwing 342 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 6: shade and don't have those guys. I get it. 343 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: But when you see just the speed that other team's 344 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 4: power plays operate with, the crispness of their passes, the 345 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: sharpness of their system, you know their their ability to 346 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: get pucks through. That for me has been the biggest 347 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 4: glaring thing that I've noticed about the Kraken power play 348 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: versus the other power plays that we've seen in the 349 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: last hanfle of games. 350 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: I want to touch on the penalty kill because often 351 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: it's also said that your goal is got to be 352 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: your best PK or now that goes hand in hand 353 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 3: structure and goaltending on top of that, but on the 354 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: overall scale, with Joey Decore, I thought into the second 355 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: period he was building a strong, strong case against the 356 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: Red Wings for a redemption game. That third goal he 357 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: gave up to James Van Riemsdyke, maybe he wants that 358 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: one back. Patrick Kaine scores off the rush wide open, 359 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: beat some gloves side as well. So at this point, 360 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: back from injury, what's our reaction to Joey to court 361 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: at this stage. 362 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that he had a great save on 363 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: the drinket opportunity. Highlight real save. 364 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: That's phenomenal. 365 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: It was phenomenal. 366 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: And to your point, Mike, I thought that, yep, he's 367 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 5: going to have one of his games here and put 368 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 5: his team in a position to win. And let's be honest, 369 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 5: he did you know, three goals or less, you're putting 370 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: your team in a position to win. And unfortunately the 371 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 5: Crack can give up that fourth goal. But I think 372 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 5: at least one or two of the goals. I think 373 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 5: Joey to the court is going to look at tape 374 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: and think I probably should have had that one or 375 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 5: played that one differently. The van reems that goal. You know, 376 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 5: we looked at the repail a little bit. I'm not 377 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: a goalie. I've never played goal, but it looked odd 378 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 5: to me that Joey Decord had his right knee down 379 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 5: and it was that side of the net that Van 380 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 5: Riemsyke put the puck in. 381 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't know why that and you went down. 382 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if he was thinking about pushing across 383 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: to try and make the save if the pass got through, 384 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 5: but that may have opened up enough daylight for Van 385 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: Raamske to put that puck in. Again, that's my non 386 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: goalie view of it. I'd be interested in his thoughts 387 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: on that. Probably off the air. 388 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think Joey coming back. He's getting 389 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: back to the form. And anytime a goalie has an injury, 390 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: you never know how that's going to impact him, right, 391 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean, goaltenders are they're quarterbacks, They're. 392 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 6: They're the most scrutinized. They're the ones. 393 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: Who were in the spotlight at all times, you know, 394 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: because they're always on the ice, So you never know 395 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: what lingering effects can come with injuries. You know, there 396 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 4: have been number numerous times throughout you know, the history 397 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: of this league where you know, yeah, a goalie is 398 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: well enough to play, and and but is he Is 399 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: he one hundred percent? So not suggesting that Joey isn't 400 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, but you never know what could happen 401 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: or what's been happening. But I think that for him, 402 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: you know, we're slowly starting to see the flashes of 403 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: where the of the of the consistent greatness that we 404 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: saw a lot of over the last couple of seasons, 405 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: and it takes some time. So I mean, Joey now 406 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: has started UH for five games in a row and 407 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 4: six of the last seven now for Seattle. 408 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 6: So I wonder with Minnesota in here tonight or. 409 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: LA on. 410 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: UH Wednesday, I wonder maybe if Grubauer will get one 411 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: of those two games, we'll see, you know, Ley Lambert, 412 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: as is the case with a lot of coaches, very 413 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: tight lipped on the goaltending schedule in the calendar. But 414 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: you know, I'm he's still the number one on this team. 415 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: I think, yes, he's probably had some down games, but 416 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: I think we view them as down because Joey Decord 417 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: sets such a high bar for himself. These last couple 418 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: of seasons, Joey Decord has been a large part of 419 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: the reason why Seattle has been in the playoff conversation 420 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: until you know, later in the year then they fell off. 421 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: So I think our expectation and our standard of Joey 422 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: Decord rightfully, so you know, you're a five million dollar 423 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: goalie is high, and I think anytime you see like, 424 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 4: oh wow, you know he's I don't want to say struggling, 425 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: but he's not making scorpion saves every other night, like. 426 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 6: We're used to seeing. It's it's it's. 427 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: Maybe a bit of a bit of a desert mirage, 428 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: if you will. He's still a good goalie, but because 429 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: he's not winning every single night anymore, you're saying to yourself, Oh, 430 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 4: what's going on. 431 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 6: I still think he's the number one on this team 432 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: and he's getting back to that level. 433 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: Now. I'll let you take it away after this year. 434 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: But also wouldn't surprise me to see Philip Grubauer against 435 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: Utah because he looked great and had two wins against 436 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: him last season as well. 437 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's the whole question, right, And we 438 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: talked about this in the booth before the last two games. 439 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: Is after that nine to four loss to Edmonton, would 440 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: we see Joey to court again? I thought we would 441 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: see Philip Grubauer, But the argument was presented, you give 442 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: your number one, Joey's your number one. You give your 443 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 5: number one an opportunity to redeem himself. 444 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 10: Yes. 445 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So he goes out and the team loses to 446 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: Edmonton in that game, So then you think, okay, probably 447 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 5: going to see Groenauer for Detroit again. Joey starts again, 448 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: So I'm o for too. Over the last two games 449 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: on who I think might be starting. I'm not sure 450 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: if Grubauer will go against Minnesota or not, but again 451 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: I'm going to say it wouldn't surprise me if he did. 452 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: We had a top line that remained consistent, and after 453 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: that everything else shuffled on Saturday and we didn't even 454 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: get the defensive core here with alexiak out as a 455 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: healthy scratch. 456 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: But mccam, ben year Zebralee, you see something there. 457 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 3: And I want to touch on Maddy later on here 458 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: because this is I think a very important part of 459 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: this conversation with his growth and where the crack and 460 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: are at here for this season. Ellie tolven and Chandler 461 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: Stevenson Coppocco, then Mason March meant Freddie Gadreau, Berkeley Catton 462 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: and some shuffling went around a little bit there, but 463 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: then he had Ty Cartier, Shane Wright, Ryan Winterton with 464 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: limited exposure, still look pretty effective and pretty solid. And 465 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: a spoiler alert here, Krchi may be coming up in 466 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: one of our three stars at the very end of 467 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: this here for this drop. So as far as the 468 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: forwards are concerned, what did we make out of the 469 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: lineup changes? 470 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Love the three star teas. It's very well done. 471 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 5: I think this is just going to be something that 472 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: we as broadcasters need to get used to, is that 473 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 5: Leid Lambert is not afraid to make an in game 474 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 5: adjustment on a regular basis. 475 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: I mean, there. 476 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: Aren't too many games over the course of the first 477 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 5: twenty six where I think all four Ford lines have 478 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: stayed in tact throughout the game. I mean, there's certainly 479 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 5: a lot fewer of those games than games where there 480 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 5: hasn't been adjustments. I just think that he's okay with, 481 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: you know, making those tweaks in game, hoping to squeeze 482 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 5: a little more juice out of his lines. And as 483 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 5: far as the lineup goes in that that Detroit game, yeah, I. 484 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: Mean I liked, you know, writ and Gadreu in the middle. 485 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: I'm that bottom six, and I thought Coco was going 486 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 5: to fit in well with that. 487 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Tolbyn and Stevenson line. Stevenson such a great playmaker. 488 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 5: I thought, you know that both Coco and Tolbden would 489 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 5: get some great opportunities for shots on goal. I know 490 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: Coco's only had one since he came back into the lineup, 491 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 5: and he's the kind of guy that should be scoring 492 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: every couple of games and grabbing, you know, especially in 493 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: the top six multiplay games every few games as well. 494 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: So I know he wants more personally out of his game. 495 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: I thought that that line might be the right combination 496 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: to do it. 497 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, I liked the look of that line. 498 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: Toilvan and Steven Coppo Coppo Coco. They've got a little 499 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: bit of everything. 500 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 6: I think on that line. I have zero issue. 501 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: With Lane Lambert sometimes blending up the lines. I love 502 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: the game within the game, and I think that is 503 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: the sign of a coach that's active, that's dialed in. 504 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: He sees things that maybe aren't looking right, or maybe 505 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: the crackheader being exposed in this area. And you've got 506 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: the pieces to plug and play, and this lineup lends itself. 507 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 6: To do just that. 508 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: You've got a number of guys I think everyone in 509 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: this lineup, I mean maybe outside of your top line, 510 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: everyone in this lineup can play everywhere else. Right, I 511 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: would feel comfortable with car Cha, right, Ryan Winterton as 512 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: your second line. I would feel comfortable with Marchmint, Gaudreau 513 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 4: and Catton as your second line. 514 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 6: Right. 515 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 4: I think that everyone on this roster can play anywhere. 516 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: But I will say the one thing that and I 517 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: gotta I gotta phrase this carefully because I'm not trying 518 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: to from a position of criticism or or combativeness. But 519 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 4: I think the one thing that I'd like to see 520 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: more of is maybe more consistency for Shane Wright and 521 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 4: Berkeley Catton, especially young players in the league. You're trying 522 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: to see what you have with Shane Wright. And I 523 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: know I'm starting to sound like the Internet and the 524 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: people that are like Shane Wright's ally got eight minutes 525 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: in the fourth line tonight, Yeah, play right more. 526 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 6: I get it. I know. 527 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: I know that I'm coming off as a fan right now, 528 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: and please to our loyal listeners forgive. 529 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 6: Me, But but I don't know. 530 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: I would like to see Shane Wright in that in 531 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: a spot for five consecutive games. I'd like to see 532 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: Berkeley Catten in a spot for for five consecutive games 533 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: and see what you have with them. 534 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 6: But outside of that, I think that the. 535 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: Lines that that we're seeing every night, I'm fine with them. 536 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: The defense has never been the issue. The personnel. I 537 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: think if you look at the crack and defensive personnel, 538 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: it got probably one of the best decours in the conference. 539 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: But you know, it's just you're trying to find that 540 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 4: mix every night that works. But I think because you've 541 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: got so many versatile players in your bottom nine forward group, 542 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: it can be hard to find a consistent mix. 543 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: The issues kind of override maybe the personnel matters here 544 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: with him being on and we saw this a long 545 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: time before he got hurt. But Jaden Schwartz, how much 546 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: does this team miss him? How do they react here 547 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: for this week? 548 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 5: As far as the lineup, yeah, I think you're really 549 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 5: seeing the impact of having seventeen nine of the lineup. 550 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 5: Special teams, physicality, you know, NetFront, presence, all of the 551 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 5: above are impacted with him out of the lineup, and 552 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: you think, well, it's going to give other guys opportunities 553 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: to do the same that that gay just hasn't been 554 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: filled since since he's been out, So you're not gonna 555 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 5: You're likely not going to see him for the remainder 556 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 5: of December. You know, when in January he's back, who knows, 557 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 5: but you know they're going to have to continue to 558 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: look for ways to try and solve the missing piece 559 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: of Jaden Schwartz. 560 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: There is a there is a certain calmness about Jaden Schwartz. 561 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 6: When he's on the ice, when he's on the. 562 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: Bench, he's in the locker room, you know. And I 563 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 4: think I said this last week too. It's almost like 564 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 4: everyone just gives this, all right, bro, kind of here 565 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: we go, right, And I think you're missing You're missing. 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 6: That al Al loves. I love the visual that Al gives. 567 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: You need a guy that's willing to go to the. 568 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: Net and score a goal off his face, and Schwartz 569 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: is a guy who will do that. 570 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: Never mind the power play. You're missing that net front guy. 571 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: You're you're missing a player that I think adds that 572 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: little extra for everyone else in the lineup. I think 573 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: he is a player that people will say, oh, if 574 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: he can do it, I can do it. If he's 575 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: doing it, then I'm going to the corners. If he's 576 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: going to the front of the that blocking shots, then 577 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go block shots. And you miss that piece 578 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: of your of your identity. With Swartz out of the lineup, 579 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: and and Alan and I were talking, this also presents 580 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: an opportunity for other players to step. 581 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: Up in that role. 582 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: I know, Yannie Newman was a name that you know, 583 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: I'd love to see him use his frame and his 584 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: size and add a bit more of a power physical 585 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: element to his game. Coppolcaco, I know that it's been 586 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: a rough go for him this season, but again that 587 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 4: size of his you know, if he can safely and 588 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: healthily go to the dirty areas and and and add 589 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: a little bit more of that of that, you know 590 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: what you to your game to his game. I like 591 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: where the Kraken are going, but you do miss so 592 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: much with Schwartz that might not always show up on 593 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: the score sheet. 594 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: I'll just add to that list Ellie told you to lead. Yeah, 595 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: team sixty three hits, Mason Marshman sixty five two twelve. 596 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: There's a couple of guys that should be in front 597 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 5: of the net every single time they're on the ice. 598 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: Well, certainly, when you go back and think of who 599 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: you miss the most, it's guys who are closest to 600 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: your own identity. I mean, when you have a guy 601 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: out like Schwartz, who's a leader based on his experience, 602 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: who's a leader based on how he plays, you go 603 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: to the front of the net. That's where this team 604 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: has to live offensively. And not only that, but the 605 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: way that he's able to get pucks, clean up ice, 606 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: he makes smart plays. It fits this system here to 607 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: a t, which I mean, I think going back when 608 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: he was knocked out, of course, what do you know, 609 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: it was a play at the front of the net. 610 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: But you're kind of thinking, Okay, holds your breath right now, 611 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: because this is where it's going to get really, really 612 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: tough to fill that kind of hole. And you know, 613 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: it's one of those adversity moments that that this team 614 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: has to respond with. So I love what you mentioned, 615 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: Everett and the fact that it's gotta be next man 616 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: up here, and you have plenty of veterans, plenty of rookies, 617 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: especially Yannie Newman, who have got to find a way 618 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: not just to live offensively off his shot, but find 619 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: a way to also live right at the front of 620 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: the net. 621 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: This door is wide open now. 622 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna gush over Jaden Schwartz. Oh just 623 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: a little bit more. When I look at players in 624 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: this league that have been around for a while, they've 625 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 4: won Cups, they do the right things, and I cannot 626 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: think of a time in the five years now that 627 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: we've had Jaden Schwartz. 628 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 6: In our organization where I've said. 629 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 4: Man, he didn't look good tonight. Man I need more 630 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: from him. Man, he just doesn't have it tonight. I 631 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: cannot recall a single time ever saying that. And he 632 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: is a guy that does everything right. He does everything well. 633 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: He might not be great eight at anything in particular, 634 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: but he does everything so well and that's what makes 635 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: him a great player and the consummate pro. 636 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 6: Whatever you want to whatever you want. 637 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: To say, Jaden Schwartz, I think around the league is 638 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: probably one of the more underappreciated, not underrated, because I 639 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: think everyone knows his game, but I think underappreciated for 640 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: the value that he brings to a lineup. 641 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two things you can count on. One is 642 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: the is. The is the the effort. 643 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: Like you said, there's a lot of things well, but 644 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: the effort is going to be there every single game. 645 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 5: That leadership is the other thing. And I'll just add 646 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: you know, everybody wants to talk about details and jams. 647 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: Swartz is one of those guys where he knows what 648 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: the right details are, he knows how to execute those details, 649 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: and he will share those with other players making the 650 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: team better as well. 651 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: I remember last year I think Jaden Schwartz had a 652 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: a lengthy point drought and you could tell that he 653 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: was You could tell he was frustrated. 654 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 6: You could tell that he was. 655 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: Upset, but but you didn't he didn't let that shine 656 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 4: through in his play, you know. 657 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 6: And it was it was something it was two years ago. 658 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: I forget what it was, but there was a time 659 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: I remember when Schwartz had a lengthy point drought and 660 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: he wasn't scoring like he wanted to and all of that, 661 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 4: but he never let. 662 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 6: It get him down. 663 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: And he was still doing so many things to help 664 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 4: the team. I mean, if they were if they gave 665 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 4: out third assists, he probably would have had twelve of 666 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: them because of how he started plays and how he 667 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: helped break the puck into the zone, and and and 668 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: he would hit a guy and he would create the turnovers. 669 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 6: So again I'm talking in circles, but I just I. 670 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: Love the guy and I really appreciate what he does 671 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: and what he means and brings to this lineup. 672 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: I want to get to Maddy Beniers here. When you 673 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: look at the numbers, you first look at this, I 674 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: think in two different ways. Three goals in his first 675 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: twenty games. You may be looking for more out of 676 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: him defensively, he's looking dialed in. You're leading a SIS 677 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 3: guy as well on this team, and he right now 678 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: is tied with the team leading scoring with Jordan Eberley. 679 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: He's on pace for a fifty point season. Now you're 680 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: looking for more maybe as he gets older and older 681 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 3: and older, But as of right now, that is emerging 682 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: to be his second best output in his best season 683 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: since he won the Calder Trophy back in twenty twenty two, 684 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: twenty three. So what do we make out of Maddie's 685 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: progress so far this season? 686 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this in the broadcast, Mike. 687 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 5: I've been real happy with Maddie's game from his own 688 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 5: blue line in this season. And I think that you know, 689 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 5: you do you say, well, does it make up for, 690 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 5: you know, the lack of scoring? 691 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: Maybe? Maybe not? 692 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 5: You know, I if he's playing in last year's system, 693 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 5: he's probably got a lot more goals, but his plus 694 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 5: minus probably looks worse because he's not as playing as 695 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 5: much defense. So, because this team has bought into this 696 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: defense first structure mentality, a guy like Manny Bneers is 697 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 5: not going to score as often. I just I truly 698 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 5: believe that. And it's not just Maddy. You bring any 699 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: top scorer in if they're going to play this style 700 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 5: of hockey, they're not going to score as much. And 701 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 5: some players don't like it. But as far as what 702 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: I can tell, everybody's bought into this system, and you 703 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 5: have to sacrifice a little bit to buy into it. 704 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 5: Maddy's fully bought into it. His his his stick work 705 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 5: along the wall, on the wall, his battles. He's coming 706 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: up with the puck more often. The Monteur goal last night, 707 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: he picked up the puck inside of his own blue line, 708 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 5: made a couple of dip backs, you know, shook off 709 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 5: his attacker, and then fed it out to every to 710 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 5: set that goal up. So that doesn't happen for Maddy 711 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 5: vaneers one two years ago. 712 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think he gives that puck up 713 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: and that goal never happens. 714 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I the fans side of me is screaming three goals? 715 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 6: What are we doing here? 716 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 4: But when you when you watch his game and you 717 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: see just how much he has matured and grown on 718 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: the ice, in the locker room, he's a leader. He's 719 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: a voice on that bench. You know, he he is 720 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 4: I genuinely believe that Matt eveniers Is is a top 721 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: two way forward definitely in the in the division, if 722 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: not the Western Conference already. And and and I think 723 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 4: you know, there's been a number of folks who are 724 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: who were giving him, you know, Dark Corse, uh, Dark 725 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 4: Corse Selki. 726 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 6: You know potential right this year. 727 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: So I love the way that Maddie's game has has evolved. 728 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: I love seeing how responsible he is. He is starting 729 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 4: to get in the mix a bit more. He's added 730 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: a little bit of a physical elements. 731 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Gone next level now with him. I saw that the 732 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: other night. 733 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: And when I say physical element, I don't mean he's 734 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: getting in there trying to fight guy. But he's not 735 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 4: shying away from board battles. He's going into the corners. 736 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 4: He's not afraid to take a hit to make a play. 737 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 4: He spins off of guys. And you're right, you didn't 738 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: see that two years ago. So his hockey, IQ, the 739 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 4: way that he's played the game has has gotten so 740 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: much better. He has been a joy to watch. But 741 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put my fan hat on and I'm like, Maddie. 742 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 6: I need more than three goals. I love you, I 743 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 6: need more but I get it. 744 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: I love that his game has become so complete, and 745 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 4: you're right, al in this system, you're going to sacrifice 746 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: a few things, you know, But I think that you know, 747 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 4: if we're talking first half pre Christmas Kraken MVP, I 748 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 4: mean Maddy Mniers is on that list for me. 749 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And you know, as far as the fan goes, yeah, 750 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: that hat nearby, but I'll put it that imaginary fan 751 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 5: hat on. I would say, why can't he be both? 752 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 5: Why can't he be the two hundred foot center that 753 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 5: you have to become this year and still score goals? 754 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 5: That's what the fans want. 755 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 6: His last goal, I remember when was this. 756 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: This was back against Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago. 757 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 4: That goal he scored just a snipe from the circle. 758 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: Like you forget sometimes that Maddy Beniers has a really 759 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: good shot and you see it in practice, you know, 760 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 4: he he I remember last year he was working on 761 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: his release a lot after practice and trying to get 762 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: a fraction of a second quicker with his release. I'd 763 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 4: love to see him use that shot more and again 764 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: we've talked about it. Funneling pucks toward the net. Laine 765 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 4: Lambert has said multiple times on the record, off the record, 766 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 4: I want these guys to be more selfish. 767 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 6: I want guys to shoot the puck more. 768 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 4: And you know, the famous Michael Scott once said, you 769 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 4: miss one hundred percent of the shots you don't take, 770 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: So listen, I want Maddie to start shooting the puck more. 771 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 4: But I'm with you. You know where he's grown so 772 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 4: much in his game is just so valuable for what 773 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 4: this team's trying to do. 774 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to go down. 775 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: I'm going to go down this legendary player's resume as 776 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: far as point totals, which began more or less at 777 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: the prime of his career, when he began to win 778 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 3: and win successfully, thirty nine points, fifty two points, fifty seven, 779 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: sixty four, thirty two in a shortened year, sixty two, 780 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: fifty five, sixty eight, fifty three, sixty three, then seventy nine, 781 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: fifty six, et cetera. That player was Patrice Bergeron, And 782 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: that's the player Matty Beineer's wants to be. 783 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 6: That's his that's his favorite player. 784 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: That is to a lot of folks, compare want to 785 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 4: compare him to being from Boston. Listen, if you're telling 786 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 4: me the Cracking I've got Patrice Berger on two point. 787 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 6: Oh, I am probably fine with that. 788 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And you know, going back to that comment 789 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 5: you made about his shot, his shot release. If you're 790 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 5: listening to this right now, now you're saying, I don't 791 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 5: know what you mean by shot release. What's a fast one? 792 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: What's what's what's a slow one? Fast one? Watch the 793 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 5: game winning goal by Patrick k last night. Yeah, he 794 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 5: receives the puck and not in the best position. He 795 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 5: actually has to choke up on his stick a little bit. 796 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 2: But from the. 797 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 5: Time that puck hits the blade of his stick until 798 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 5: the time he gets it off, it's barely a second. 799 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: And I think when. 800 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 5: You've got to release like that, you don't have to 801 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 5: have the hardest shot, but if it's accurate and it's quick, 802 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 5: you're going to score a ton of goals. And I 803 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 5: know that's what Maddie Deniers is working on. 804 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Fitz is gonna go take a break. 805 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: Let's go to the Beacon Plumbing hotline right now. Time 806 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: to bring on our special guest, his debut here on 807 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: Crack and Weekly. His name is Jonathan Davis, a Vson 808 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: hockey betting analysts You can also hear him as a 809 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 3: correspondent on Sirius XM. NHL Network Radio does some fantastic 810 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 3: work based on the West Coast. Jonathan, great to have you. 811 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us here. And I first want 812 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: to dive into this. The krack And will be out 813 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: there before the holiday break in Los Angeles, and it 814 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 3: takes me back here. It's a growing up in the 815 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 3: Glendora area where sometimes I mean managed shorts weather on 816 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 3: Christmas Day, I mean, Jonathan, for the trip out there. 817 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that we're going to be backing light? 818 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, look, I just before we started this interview, 819 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 11: I was just out of the beach and watching all 820 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 11: everybody surfing. It is you know, for a guy it 821 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 11: was born in Montreal and raised in Toronto. I made 822 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 11: the right decision a long time ago to trade snow 823 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 11: for beach. 824 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:25,919 Speaker 2: Uh. 825 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: You take me back, and I think you nail the 826 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 3: secret here to success. Spend less money on clothes and 827 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 3: more on experiences. Let's get down to the this part 828 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: of the week here, the crack And are playing in 829 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: a stretch of eleven games and twenty days. It's getting 830 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: busy and this could have a major effect on their 831 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 3: playoff fortunes and they're still trying to figure out figure 832 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: things after going winless in five in a row. Now 833 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: they can play defense, their goaltending has been mostly dialed in, 834 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: but they're experiencing a ton of issues as far as 835 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: offensive generation, pedally kill issues. Also on top of that, 836 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 3: when you consider the overall scope of the season, So 837 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: Jonathan to you, what's weighing on their playoff hopes from 838 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 3: both sides when you consider how their strains stack up 839 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: against the rest of the league and what they're needing 840 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 3: to level up with. 841 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 11: Well, I mean, look, the biggest problem that they face 842 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 11: is that they're offensively challenged. 843 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 12: I mean, you know, Matty Veneers and Jordan Everley with. 844 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 11: Sixteen points lead the team, and that puts them about 845 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 11: one hundred and forty first in scoring in the NHL. 846 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 11: So if you're the opposition, you know, and you're putting, 847 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 11: you know, you've got all the lines on your on 848 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 11: the whiteboard of your you know, the cracking there's not 849 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 11: a big heavy game planning issue. 850 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 12: So I think you know. 851 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 11: Then you know, not having a game breaker really hurts 852 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 11: the cracking. And for the early part of the season, 853 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 11: you know, they were able to do it because whether 854 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 11: it was Joey deccord or Philip Grubauer or Matt Murray, 855 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 11: they were getting saved and they were able to stay 856 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 11: in games. 857 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 12: And right now, you know, they've gone. 858 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 11: You know, it wasn't long ago that they were what 859 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 11: top too or at least top five in goals against, 860 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 11: and now they're sitting you know, I think around fifteen. 861 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 11: So if you can't score and now you're starting to 862 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 11: give up goals, it makes it really tough for this 863 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 11: cracking team that's been able. You know, look, their success 864 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 11: early on is being able to get games to overtime 865 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 11: and pick it up. 866 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 12: That that loser point, there's no I mean, you can't 867 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 12: hide behind that. 868 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 11: So you know, for this front office, they've got to 869 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 11: find a way to get themselves more guys that can 870 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 11: can score. 871 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 12: Because when you look. 872 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 11: Back to you know, look when they that year that 873 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 11: they took you know, they knocked out Colorado, there are 874 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 11: six guys that are no longer on that team were 875 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 11: from that year. 876 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 12: You know, I look back, it's it's like the Org Strand. 877 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: Wehenberg Donado. 878 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: City. 879 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, geeky, So you know, six. 880 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 11: Guys you haven't been able to replace. So it's it's 881 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 11: tough when you can't score and now you're really relying 882 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 11: on your goalie to bail you out, you know, most nights. 883 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: And we had a conversation here also losing Jaden Schwartz 884 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 3: out of this mix until maybe the last part of 885 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 3: the month, maybe even to New Year's certainly really dense 886 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 3: the plans here as far as far as this is concerned. 887 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 3: So top line scoring with that has been a big 888 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: part of the discussion in the hockey world here for upgrades, 889 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, is there a certain type of player, Jonathan 890 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 3: you think that is the best fit in this situation 891 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: or is this a matter of whatever guy that you 892 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 3: can get to pump in you more points that makes 893 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 3: the upgrade worth pursuing. 894 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 11: I don't think they're one player away, if that's what 895 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 11: you're asking. So I think there's there's just more more 896 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 11: than one player that this team needs to be able 897 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 11: to take itself to the next level. I mean, so 898 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 11: you know, yeah, they're not one right away, That's that's 899 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 11: pretty much it. Or they're not one player away, I 900 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 11: mean unless unless they do some major overhaul with this roster. 901 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 11: You know, look, there there's definitely some some things, you know, 902 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 11: guys to get excited about. You know, I love you know, 903 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 11: look Shane, whit continues to develop, and you've got ty 904 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,479 Speaker 11: Krcha and you've got oh my god, I'm. 905 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 12: Trying to think of the kid out of Spokane. 906 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, so there are you know, but this is a 907 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 11: team that's a couple of years away. 908 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 12: They're not just one not one player away. 909 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 5: Jonathan, you know the krack and have obviously employed this 910 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 5: defensive first structure this season. And you know, my broadcast 911 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 5: partner Everett and I talk about it a lot that 912 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 5: it tends to be boring hockey from a fans standpoint, 913 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 5: but as you pointed out, when you're having trouble scoring goals, 914 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 5: your only option is to try and keep them out 915 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 5: of your own net. What do you think about that 916 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 5: approach to the game and is it something that's sustainable 917 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 5: through eighty two games and potentially in the. 918 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 11: Laos Well, look, Kings fans can echo those same thoughts, guys. 919 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 11: You know that's the problem here in Los Angeles. I 920 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 11: mean I took a look at the numbers. They're like 921 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 11: three and twelve this year. When they give up three 922 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 11: goals or more, they need to play low event hockey 923 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 11: as well, at least under the style of play that 924 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 11: Jim Hiller wants them, you. 925 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 12: Know, to play. So look, there, you have to deal 926 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 12: with what you've got. And so when you don't have the. 927 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 11: Game breaker, you know, you have to find a way 928 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 11: to shut things down. What was interesting was Seattle guys, 929 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 11: like I took a look last year, the overwhelming majority 930 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 11: of their wins last year they happen to score four 931 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 11: goals or more, which I thought was kind of interesting. Yeah, 932 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 11: but it's just not a long term recipe right now 933 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 11: with the roster that they have. 934 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 12: So they've got to play defense first. 935 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 11: The problem with is it, you know, is it everybody's 936 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 11: got to be at their best every night. If they're not, 937 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 11: then the other team's going to find a way to 938 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,479 Speaker 11: break through. 939 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 2: And that's that's tough mentally on the group. 940 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's and that starts in goal obviously as 941 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 5: well as well. And you know, for a period of 942 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 5: time a week or so ago, Seattle had three goaltenders, 943 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 5: one that's injured, all above the nine hundred save percentage. 944 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 5: And it's a real key to playing that kind of hockey. 945 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 5: But speaking of goaltenders, you guys got Darcy kemper Back 946 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 5: looked like he put up a goose egg the other. 947 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: Night against Chicago. That's going to feel good for you guys. 948 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, But I look also, you know, I looked at 949 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 11: the Chicago game and I was talking with a group 950 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 11: of friends of mine. 951 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 12: You know, Chicago with that rare, you know, two games 952 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 12: in one city, which I think would be is. 953 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 11: I don't know if fans like it, but you know, 954 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 11: we're seeing all the injuries the players are going through. 955 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 11: I think it may be better for teams to do 956 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 11: more of it. But I really think that that Saturday 957 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 11: game against UH for for Chicago's standpoint, was a schedule loss. 958 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 12: And I say that because they got to win on. 959 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 11: Thursday against LA and they've got Anaheim on you know 960 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 11: today here Sunday as we record, and that's the game 961 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 11: that they were looking towards, and I think they looked ahead. 962 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 12: And you know, but good on LA. 963 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 11: But that win for LA, guys isn't going to mean 964 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 11: anything if they can't go into Seattle and put up 965 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 11: another performance like they did in that Saturday win against Chicago. 966 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 11: I mean, look, the future of Jim Hiller is definitely 967 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 11: in question in here in Los Angeles you know, so 968 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 11: we'll see where it goes. But you know, LA, I 969 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 11: don't see LA making a coaching change before Seattle, but guys, 970 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 11: it wouldn't surprise me. LA's got two days off for 971 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 11: the first time coming up Thursday and Friday of this 972 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 11: week before they play Calgary on Saturday. It's something to 973 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 11: pay attention to that LA decides that they want to. 974 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 12: Make a coaching change. 975 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 11: It wouldn't surprise me if they did it after their 976 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 11: game against Utah and Wednesday. I'm not look, Jim Hiller's 977 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 11: Jim Hillers a great guy to deal with, but there 978 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 11: they need something here in Los Angeles and they've got 979 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 11: to build on that win from Saturday when they face 980 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 11: you guys on Monday. 981 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 5: Well, those two those two days off will follow the 982 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 5: first of two meetings against Seattle this month. Two of 983 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 5: those eleven games will be against LA, So it'll be 984 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 5: interesting to see if something like that were to happen. 985 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 5: It could be based on what happens in that game 986 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 5: versus Seattle. 987 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 2: Two. 988 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, so Seattle game is Wednesday, maybe it's Utah and Monday. 989 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: Is that okay? 990 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, just kind of mixing Wednesday and then and then 991 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 5: later the last game right before Christmas and the twenty 992 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 5: third as well. 993 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 12: All Right, so it's you there. LA's in Utah on 994 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 12: Monday and then okay, Seattle Wednesday. So for me, yeah, 995 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 12: in audition to see what happens. 996 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 11: But yeah, LA, Like I said, bottom line for LA 997 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 11: is that they're far better when they keep games to 998 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 11: like two one, three two. The six nothing game was Look, 999 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 11: that's that's a rarity for Los Angeles, you know, to. 1000 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 12: Put up a six spot. 1001 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 11: But I get the sense here in Los Angeles that 1002 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 11: players are a little frustrated with the type of style 1003 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 11: of play that that Jim Hiller wants them to play. 1004 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 11: They you know, guys want to score obviously. You know 1005 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 11: you heard Jim Hiller the last couple of games talk 1006 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 11: about how guys have come some players have gone. 1007 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 12: Rogue on the system. 1008 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 11: It'll be just to see how things transpire over the 1009 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 11: next couple of days. 1010 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan. 1011 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of stars pass up a chance 1012 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 3: these days to take the bag in the off season, 1013 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: and instead they stay put. Adrian Campe is the latest 1014 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 3: testimony here to this. What made the biggest difference for 1015 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 3: him with getting his extension done. 1016 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 2: He wanted to be here, plain and simple. You know, he's. 1017 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 12: You know, just had a baby. He loves being in 1018 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 12: Los Angeles. 1019 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: I think his wife wife went in the labor. 1020 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, last time the kid the crack and 1021 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 3: we're in Los Angeles back in April, remember that. 1022 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 11: So yeah, I mean, bottom line is that he wanted 1023 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 11: he wanted to remain here. He you know, his family 1024 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 11: lights living out here, and I mean, you wouldn't like 1025 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 11: living out here in so cal So look me personally, 1026 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 11: like if I'm Adrian Kempe and I want to win, 1027 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 11: I don't know why I would resign. 1028 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 12: I mean, the future of this team. 1029 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 11: Look, the best the best California teams are going to 1030 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 11: be in San Jose and Anaheim for the next. 1031 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 12: Couple of years. LA is very thin. 1032 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 11: But bottom line, the answer your you know, the answer 1033 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 11: to your question is is that he wants to stay 1034 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 11: in Los Angeles. And that was you know, quality of 1035 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 11: life is important to him. So you know, that's why 1036 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 11: still l. 1037 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 3: I came Minnesota is coming up on Monday before the 1038 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 3: matchup against Los Angeles, and it seemed like this last 1039 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 3: month nobody could beat the wild and they're on a 1040 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 3: bit of a slide once again. Though it may seem 1041 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 3: a bit subtle. So I think, to you, what's your 1042 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: feel as far as last month being a statement or 1043 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: versus saying, do you need to see more here from Minnesota? 1044 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 11: Well, I look, I think Minnesota is a team that's 1045 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 11: built for the regular season and not the playoffs. 1046 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: I got. 1047 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 11: They're just not deep enough. I mean, ultimately, they're They're 1048 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 11: two lines deep. 1049 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 12: And that's it. 1050 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 11: And that's the problem they had when they faced Vegas 1051 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 11: last year in the playoffs. Once Vegas was able to 1052 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 11: shut down the Big Three or at least contain them, 1053 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 11: Minnesota just doesn't have enough there. They've got two lines 1054 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 11: and they've had two really good goaltenders, but that's it. 1055 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 11: And so that, like, I just think that they're built 1056 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 11: for eighty two. They're not built to make a long run. 1057 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 11: And you know, we'll see what Bill Garon is able 1058 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 11: to do with their roster. They've got a really strong 1059 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,479 Speaker 11: blue line. You know, Walstatton Gustason have played really well. 1060 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 12: They sure they've run into this bugaboo. 1061 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 11: You know, they've given up eight goals or well seven 1062 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 11: goals passed the goalie in the last two games. I 1063 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 11: just don't think that. I just think that their their 1064 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 11: lack of depth is the issue for the while. 1065 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like there's really three levels of teams 1066 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 5: in this league. Teams that well, I mean before if 1067 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 5: you count teams that are just out of the playoff one, 1068 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 5: the teams that get in and are trying to get in, 1069 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 5: that would be one. Teams that are likely to get in, 1070 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 5: like the Minnesota description you just gave, but probably won't 1071 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 5: get deep into the playoffs, and then you get your 1072 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 5: Cup contenders. And I think where the crack and are 1073 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 5: at this season is that after going two seasons without 1074 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 5: getting into the playoffs, getting into the playoffs would be 1075 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 5: obviously a big step forward for them. And I think that, 1076 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 5: you know, while I don't disagree with what you said, 1077 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 5: they're more than a player away. I think with the 1078 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 5: right move that gets them into the into the first 1079 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 5: round or maybe back into the second again, is going 1080 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 5: to be considered a success for them. So it'll be 1081 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 5: interesting to see what happens between now and trade deadline 1082 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 5: with with you know, those decisions, we speculate all the time. 1083 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know who knows. 1084 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 5: The analogy I use it's like asking somebody, are you 1085 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 5: going to sell a car today. 1086 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't know if someone's going 1087 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 2: to come in. I don't know if they're going to 1088 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: want to pay the race I'm offering. So we'll see 1089 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: what happens with that. 1090 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I think Look, I think Seattle would be 1091 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 11: better served to get themselves a very high draft pick 1092 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 11: than to go around in the playoffs. Like I don't 1093 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 11: think I don't think that would serve this organization. 1094 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 12: Well, you know the Genny. 1095 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 11: Look, it was a great story two years ago and 1096 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 11: what they did with Colorado, But at the end of 1097 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 11: the day, I just wonder did it really helped them 1098 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 11: long term the way that you you know, you look 1099 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 11: at this roster. So I think that they would be 1100 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 11: you know, if they could get themselves a very high 1101 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 11: draft pick. 1102 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 12: I think that's better than going around in the playoffs. 1103 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 3: Touching on one more Western Conference team that is on 1104 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 3: the slate here for this week. 1105 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: The Kraken will be in Utah Friday. 1106 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 3: The Mammoth. They are going to be around this picture, 1107 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 3: maybe Jonathan for a long time. But will there be 1108 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 3: a playoff Berth this spring? Maybe hold the phone on 1109 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 3: that one for now. But what's the deal breaker? You're 1110 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 3: thinking to be for Utah to in this race this season. 1111 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 12: I think Utah needs to get bigger. 1112 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 11: Like they they they're highly skilled, but they've got a 1113 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 11: lot of small players and they need to get bigger upfront. 1114 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 12: They need to be able to score more greasy goals 1115 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 12: than they do. 1116 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 2: Uh jj. 1117 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 11: Turk has worked out well for them, he's now you know, 1118 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 11: he's back up from the top power play where he 1119 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 11: didn't start. 1120 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 12: At the beginning of the year. But I think that 1121 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 12: they need to add some size up front. 1122 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 11: They've got themselves a goaltender and Vimelka that you know 1123 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 11: I would trust to win a big game. 1124 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 12: Their blue line has been good. 1125 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 11: Mikhail Sergachev has worked his way into being their number one. 1126 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 12: I'm not sure if he is a true number one. 1127 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 11: But I just think the biggest thing for them is 1128 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 11: they need to add a little more. They need to 1129 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 11: add more size up front. 1130 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 3: You're a busy man, putting your minor to a lot 1131 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 3: of Western Conference manner has certainly appreciated. Jonathan, Thank you 1132 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 3: very much for your time. 1133 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 12: Thank you. I appreciate you guys having me all right. 1134 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 1135 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 3: Jonathan Davis joining us once again, and we're about to 1136 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 3: wrap this thing up as far as the week ahead 1137 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 3: and our three stars. So it's getting busy now, cracking 1138 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 3: in the middle of eleven games in twenty days and 1139 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 3: then bam right into the holiday break. So as far 1140 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 3: as this week, they're still back at home. Of course 1141 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 3: tonight against Minnesota, who has been struggling. Then you got 1142 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 3: the Kings who are on a heater right now. But 1143 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 3: as we've heard, of course, there still could be some 1144 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 3: changes of foot. Who knows, we'll see, but you can 1145 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 3: at least expect editing from the opposite of nine to 1146 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: eight from what we saw back in twenty twenty two 1147 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 3: to twenty three. You have Utah who's slipping down the 1148 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 3: stairs a little bit, and then there's Buffalo, who is 1149 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 3: right back into the Eastern Conference basement. This game against 1150 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 3: Minnesota should be fun the Freddie Goodreau faces this former 1151 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 3: team game on top of that, But considering all the 1152 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 3: crack and had with these obstacles here, you've got eight 1153 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 3: points on the table. Do you set the bar here 1154 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 3: at five to call this a successful week? 1155 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 5: I think that's really I mean, obviously, you know you've 1156 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 5: given up a couple of games here in the start 1157 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 5: of December that you were hoping to get something out 1158 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,800 Speaker 5: of but unfortunately you walk away with nothing, so that 1159 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 5: the priority as absolutely points. So five in those six 1160 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 5: I don't think that's unreasonable. They're going to be difficult 1161 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 5: games or you know, I expect probably both of them 1162 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 5: to be fairly low event if the Kraken are able 1163 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 5: to play their style. 1164 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: We know La likes to think. 1165 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh, Wednesday will be you bet that, Yeah, you bet that. 1166 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 2: So. 1167 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 5: You know it's it's going to be who plays that 1168 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 5: system better, and uh, you know, I'm looking forward to it. 1169 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 5: But I think you're right, Mike, five points would be 1170 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 5: considered a win. 1171 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go five. I'm I mean, 1172 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 6: if I could, I'd say five and. 1173 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 4: A half, just because the difference you're falling, You're you're 1174 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 4: you're falling. Right now, You've got three points in between 1175 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 4: you Edmonton and. 1176 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 6: Utah of for the first and second lolid card spots. 1177 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 4: You've now been jumped by San Jose and the division 1178 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: standings there twenty nine. You've got Minnesota who's ahead of you, La, 1179 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 4: Who's ahead of you by five points. Minnesota's ahead of 1180 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 4: you by seven points, Utah's. 1181 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 6: Ahead of you by three points. 1182 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 4: So I mean, even if you win all of those games, 1183 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 4: you're still not guaranteed to be back in a wild 1184 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 4: card spot. So I mean, I'm gonna go so far 1185 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 4: as to say, I mean, I'll say five and a 1186 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 4: half like. 1187 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 6: You got Yeah, you have to get five points. 1188 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: Does a half point come off of effort? 1189 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, like if you lose, you can't lose three nothing, 1190 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 4: right I. 1191 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 5: Stand. 1192 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: I love that you need. 1193 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 6: Two wins and a and a shootout loss. 1194 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 4: And they have to show that you're you're going in 1195 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 4: the right direction. You know, you have to leave no 1196 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 4: doubt that the last now five games, four and one 1197 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 4: were just a blip in the season and you're getting 1198 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 4: back to winning games and getting back to cracket hockey, 1199 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 4: which which has been established in the first twenty plus 1200 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 4: games of the season. 1201 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 5: And the ace in their pocket and again I would 1202 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 5: underplay this if I was part of the coaching staff, 1203 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 5: But yeah, you need five and a half points, you know, 1204 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 5: in this in this stretch. But the ace in their 1205 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 5: pocket is other than the Vegas Golden Knights. This cracking 1206 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 5: team has between two and four games in hand on 1207 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 5: everybody else in the conference. Yes, So if you don't 1208 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 5: waste those two to four games. If you get points 1209 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 5: through those two to four games, all of a sudden, you're, 1210 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 5: you know, once you're matching up to those other teams 1211 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 5: that have twenty eight to twenty nine games played cracking 1212 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 5: are at twenty six. 1213 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're back at the top of 1214 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 2: that of that conference. 1215 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: And then two like I brought this up the other 1216 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 4: day as well, the game's coming up. I mean, Minnesota's 1217 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 4: ahead of you, the Kings are out of you, Utah's 1218 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 4: ahead of you. 1219 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 6: Colorado, well, you know they're ahead of you. 1220 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: Is a good game on that one? 1221 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 6: I don't I. 1222 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 3: Believe I have used the phrase ten thou wagon once 1223 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 3: or twice to describe them. 1224 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 4: You've got Anaheim, You've got San Jose, Anaheim LA. You've 1225 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 4: got Vancouver who only there three points back of you 1226 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 4: twice in a three game spend. You've got Minnesota again 1227 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 4: early January. Then you go out east, and then you 1228 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,439 Speaker 4: come back for a game against Utah, Anaheim, Vegas, Anaheim, LA. 1229 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 4: So your next ten or so games in your division, 1230 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 4: only two of them are against teams that are out 1231 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 4: of it. So I mean every game coming up between 1232 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 4: now and the All Star break against the Western Conference. 1233 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 4: I mean you need to win those games or get 1234 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 4: points in those games between now and the Olympic break. 1235 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Let's get to our three stars here for the week 1236 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 3: before we duck out of here and get right back 1237 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 3: to busy stuff. This week with four games on tap, 1238 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 3: I'll begin with my third start, Berkeley Catton. And there 1239 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: are moments I watch him in this is your best 1240 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 3: player on the ice. Feed him more ice time, get 1241 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 3: him out, get him out, get him out, get him out. 1242 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 3: He was three of six in face offs against Detroit. 1243 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 3: He's starting to move in the right direction in that area. 1244 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 3: He had also three block shots in that game. He's 1245 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 3: also committing here to the bit defensively, and he has 1246 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 3: been asked to play everywhere in this lineup, left wings, center, 1247 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 3: right wing. I'm shocked not in net here at this point. 1248 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 3: That first goal is coming. I'm not concerned about that. 1249 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 3: He's working for offense eventually, lot of averagescy in this league, 1250 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 3: you work like him, the goals will come. I'd be 1251 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 3: a lot more concerned if he would go through games 1252 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 3: like a passenger, but he's not. And Berkeley Catton, no 1253 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: matter where you play, where you play him, he's making 1254 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 3: a difference here. My second star is Ty Cartier. Had 1255 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: an assist against the Red Wings. He carried the puck 1256 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 3: with confidence. He had four hits as well in that game, 1257 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 3: and he had to play sheltered minute. But to me, 1258 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 3: he was very, very effective when he was out there, 1259 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 3: and I thought one of the more upper tier players 1260 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 3: committing to the way that Lane Lambert wants to play 1261 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 3: with the meat and potatoes type of brand. My first 1262 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 3: star is Brandon Montour. Ten shot attempts on Saturday ten. 1263 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 3: He had a monster shift with a great defensive play 1264 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 3: back in the first period. Very next shift came right 1265 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 3: back snipe one on John Gibson. That was a game 1266 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 3: changer at that point. He is shooting the puck, he 1267 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 3: is working both ends, he is leading. That's the kind 1268 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 3: of secret ingredient to eventually get this thing turned around. 1269 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 3: Brandon Montour is my first star of the week. 1270 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on on on Montour. My third 1271 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 4: start of the week is Brandon Montour. I think for 1272 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 4: the reasons that you just outlined, you know, it was 1273 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 4: it was hard. I was going between two guys. I 1274 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 4: like Montour again in a week that defense and I 1275 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 4: say this, you know, with the utmost respect in a 1276 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 4: week where it's seeing that defense was optional in terms 1277 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 4: of the scorer on the board. I thought Montor really 1278 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 4: was steady. He was trying to drive offense and generate offense. 1279 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 4: And you know, I go back to the little conversation 1280 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 4: he had with the referee in Edmonton. 1281 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 6: He got the double minor and the referee. 1282 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 4: Was like, I gotta call that one A, so I'll 1283 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 4: go Monsur and also to a quick shot out. We 1284 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 4: had a partner, a season ticket holder trip on Thursday 1285 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 4: to Edmonton, and there was an eight year old on 1286 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 4: our flight and we had we do these trips all 1287 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 4: the time, and we had never had a kid on 1288 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,959 Speaker 4: I'm not going to give his name, but we've never 1289 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 4: had a youth on our plane. Montor comes up, talks 1290 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 4: to the kid for good five or ten minutes, and 1291 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 4: you could tell that he was just very, very nervous. 1292 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 4: But I was talking to his dad and he said, 1293 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 4: you know the guys you're getting on the plane, and 1294 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 4: he goes, hey, Dad, that's Manys, Hey Dad, that's Grubauer, 1295 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 4: Hey Dad, that's so and so. 1296 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: So. 1297 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 4: For Monty to come up and talk to him, I 1298 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 4: thought that was great. My number two star is going 1299 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,919 Speaker 4: to be Adam Larson. Two points against the Wings, goal 1300 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 4: and assist, and again I think defensively he he did 1301 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 4: what he could against the Oilers. 1302 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 6: But I like his jam this week. 1303 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 4: I thought he had some good hits, he had some 1304 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 4: good plays, a couple of shot blocks. Again, I've always 1305 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 4: said that Adam Larson is so reliable, so dependable. If 1306 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 4: you don't notice him on the ice, then he's doing 1307 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 4: a great job. And I think today or this week 1308 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 4: you noticed him on the score sheet. He got rewarded 1309 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 4: with some much deserved offense and some points on the 1310 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 4: score sheet. And then my number one star, Vince done 1311 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 4: your three hundredth NHL point, your three hundredth game with 1312 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 4: the Seattle Kraken on Thursday. The point came on Saturday 1313 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 4: against Detroit. And then you know the response to the 1314 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 4: everly hit. I don't want to sound too harsh. Someone 1315 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 4: had to do it. I was a little disappoin winted 1316 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 4: with the lack of response this week when when your 1317 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 4: guys are getting hit. 1318 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 2: And I. 1319 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 6: Like Vince Dunn and what. 1320 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 4: He did for the captain, so hopefully that can filter 1321 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 4: in and if someone else wants to take a liberty 1322 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 4: tomorrow or Wednesday or anywhere moving forward down the line, 1323 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm hoping some of that done ther takerness will wear 1324 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 4: off on the rest of the roster. 1325 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 2: Love it well. My third stars is Shane Wright. 1326 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,959 Speaker 5: Sixty nine percent in the faceoff dot over the last 1327 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 5: two games. You know, he's a left handed center and 1328 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 5: Channer Stevenson's a right handed center. Channer Stevenson is considered 1329 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 5: probably the number one guy goes into all the key 1330 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 5: face off situations. If Shane Wright can become that number 1331 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,439 Speaker 5: two face off guy, now you've got a left hand 1332 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 5: in or right handed center that can win in most situations. 1333 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 5: So sixty nine percent in the dot for him over 1334 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 5: the last two games. He had an assist in the 1335 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 5: Edmonton game. So he's my my third star. Second star 1336 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 5: I gave to Maddy Beniers to assists in the last 1337 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 5: two game games. He sits six talking about his two 1338 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 5: hundred foot game. He sits sixth on the shot block 1339 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 5: count for the KRACK And guess what the five guys 1340 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 5: above him, they're all defensemen. So he is the first 1341 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 5: forward on the shot block list in terms of most 1342 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 5: shot blocks in the team at twenty three. When you're 1343 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 5: thinking about how he's developing his two hundred foot games. 1344 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 5: So he's my second star and first stars. As ever 1345 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 5: previously mentioned there, Adam Rson a goal, one assist in 1346 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 5: that four to three loss. He was plus two plus 1347 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 5: two guys in that Edmonton yeah ninety four. 1348 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 6: I left that part out. He was one of the 1349 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 6: very few pluses in that game. 1350 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 5: He had three hits in that game. And he's had 1351 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 5: six block shots over the last two games. So his physicality. 1352 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 5: You know, he leads the team with shot blocks. He's 1353 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 5: the top of that list with fifty seven. He's a guy, 1354 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 5: and I agree with you, Everett. You don't notice him 1355 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 5: that much. You did notice him in that Detroit game 1356 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 5: because he had a goal and assist, but you don't 1357 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 5: notice him as much when he's blocking shots and he's 1358 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 5: playing well defensively because he just feels like that's his 1359 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 5: job and he just goes out and does it every night. 1360 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 5: There's no fans celebration for that. But that's why I 1361 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 5: love about his game. 1362 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 3: All right, guys, appreciate you. That's all the time we 1363 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 3: have folks here for today. Once again, the crack in 1364 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 3: four games this week will lay this all out for 1365 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 3: you right now. Beginning this evening against the Minnesota Wild, 1366 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 3: then Wednesday the Los Angeles Kings, both games opening up 1367 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 3: at seven o'clock. Friday the Kraken on the road at 1368 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 3: Delta Center to take on the Utah Mammoth, and then 1369 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 3: back home Sunday against the Buffalo Sabers. Friday's game at 1370 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 3: six pm. Sunday's home game five pm Pacific, All games 1371 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 3: opening half hour on air with your pregame show served 1372 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 3: up by Frost Brewed cors Light Shoose Chill take note. 1373 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 3: Every game this week Monday, Wednesday, Friday's road game, and 1374 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 3: Sunday we're gonna be at Tom's Watch Bar for postgame, 1375 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 3: and Friday will be an all broadcast affairs. So certainly 1376 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 3: hope you can join us right across the street from 1377 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Climate Pledge Arena. More tickets and promo details by the 1378 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 3: way at NHL dot com. Slash crack it and we'll. 1379 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Do it for here. 1380 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 3: Big thank you again to Jonathan Davis for joining us 1381 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 3: and forever it fits you and Al Kadiski. 1382 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Benton. See you You're 1383 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 5: Home for the Cracking Sports Radio ninety three point three 1384 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 5: k j R FM