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Speaker 2: I don't know if Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan

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Speaker 2: is going to be convicted of federal felonies. Are not.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you, however, and we're at the stage

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Speaker 2: of the trial the prosecution is widening up its case,

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Speaker 2: then the defense has its opportunity closing arguments and all

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Speaker 2: of that. I can tell you that the case that

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Speaker 2: the federal prosecutors are putting on so far is I

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Speaker 2: think rather strong. Now understand that just about everybody who's

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Speaker 2: going to testify in this case is a lefty. Almost

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Speaker 2: all the Milwaukee County judges are liberal. The judge that

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Speaker 2: Hannah Dugan and Carder in the hallway is a fellow liberal.

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Speaker 2: Everybody involved here is a leftist. But in terms of

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Speaker 2: the testimony, some of the testimony that is coming from

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Speaker 2: others in the courthouse system I think is damning. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to read a quote and then we're going to

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Speaker 2: expand on this judge severa was the judge that Dugan

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Speaker 2: encountered in the hallway on that faithful morning in which

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Speaker 2: ICE agents showed up with an arrest warrant for a

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Speaker 2: suspect that was to appear in Dugan's court. I want

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Speaker 2: to read the quote this is on the witness stand

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Speaker 2: from Judge Severa. I was shocked. Quote judges should not

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Speaker 2: be helping defendants evade arrest. So the jury heard that.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty strong statement, and it comes to someone

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Speaker 2: who has the credibility of being the exact same thing

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Speaker 2: that Hannah Dugan is. A fellow Milwaukee County Circuit judge,

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Speaker 2: an option. For those of you who haven't followed the background,

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Speaker 2: ICE agents showed up and they had a war and

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Speaker 2: four Eduardo Flores Ruiz who, in addition to being an

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrant, was also accused of violent crime in Judge

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Speaker 2: Hannah Dugan's court, and Dugan sent the ice agents off

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Speaker 2: on a wild goose chase, sending them down to the

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Speaker 2: office of the Chief Judge in Milwaukee, Cottie Karl Ashley,

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Speaker 2: and during the time that they were gone, she spirited

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Speaker 2: this defendant floresa Ree's away and hit him in a room.

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Speaker 2: Rather than let this slide, the Department of Justices bringing

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Speaker 2: criminal charges. Both Tom Holman and the Attorney General Pam

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Speaker 2: Bondi have said that public officials who assistant assist illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants in avoiding being detained are going to be prosecuted.

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Speaker 2: It's crime. It's a crime, just as much as if

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Speaker 2: a regular old person me tries to hide somebody who's

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Speaker 2: wanted for a murder or something, or it's an obstruction,

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Speaker 2: you can't do it. In this case, she was a

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Speaker 2: judge and she was being presented with a warrant. Judges

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Speaker 2: issue warrens themselves. She's confronted with a ward and rather

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Speaker 2: than onto the warrant, she actively, according to the allegation

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Speaker 2: and according to all the evidence presented, she actively thwarted

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Speaker 2: the warrant. Now, this isn't what happened, but it would

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Speaker 2: have been interesting if she simply chose not to cooperate.

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Speaker 2: In other words, I'm not going to tell you anything,

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Speaker 2: but allowed them to go find the guy and grab

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Speaker 2: them up. But she didn't do that. She took the

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Speaker 2: added step of diverting them, shuttling them off to another

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Speaker 2: Maries was arrested anyway, meaning what Dugan did didn't do

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Speaker 2: that this is a case of no harm, no follow

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Speaker 2: given the fact that the person was ending up in

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Speaker 2: custody anyway. I want to quote though, and I've got

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Speaker 2: news that counts of FOXYX and JS online here. On

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Speaker 2: Tuesday of this week, the sixteenth, Christella Severa testified, as

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Speaker 2: I said, she's the fellow of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee County judge testified that she was summoned from the

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Speaker 2: bench by Judge Hannah Dugan and told to keep on

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Speaker 2: of this that's very interesting and isment brought up in

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Speaker 2: Why would Dugan specifically have told Servera to keep her

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Speaker 2: this is what Servera is testifying. She has no particular

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Speaker 2: reason to lie under oaths. She's a judge. She could

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Speaker 2: and run this misdirection is she wanted the Ice agents

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Speaker 2: there giving them a statement. If Christella Severa just goes

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Speaker 2: out there, they aren't going to know her for her ad.

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Speaker 2: But she's got the judicial robot and Dugan told her

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Speaker 2: to keep the robot, and that's what she testified. Continuing

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Speaker 2: the testimony from Judge Christeller, Servera came in December sixteenth,

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Speaker 2: the same day as federal agents testified that Dugan was

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Speaker 2: Eduardoflores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant. That's the term the jess

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Speaker 2: online users outside her courtroom. The events of April eighteenth

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Speaker 2: thrust the sixty six year old Dugan into the center

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Speaker 2: over its crack down an illegal immigration. Severa testified, now again,

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Speaker 2: this is the other judge that she hesitated to enter

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Speaker 2: the public hallway and confront federal immigration agents with Dugan.

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Speaker 2: So here's Severa. She's being told this by Dugan. And again,

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Speaker 2: Dugan's not her boss, she's a fellow judge. But Dugan's

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Speaker 2: been a round blogger, Dugan's been on the bench longer.

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Speaker 2: So you've got a fellow judge telling her to do this.

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Speaker 2: And Severa doesn't really know what's going on. She hesitated

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Speaker 2: so she can she's already sensing this isn't good. Continuing,

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Speaker 2: Severa said, she and other judges don't wear their robes

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the case is. In all the

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Speaker 2: to me that a lot of times a judge does

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Speaker 2: you're just going from one room to another, do you

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Speaker 2: want to take the whole thing of But Severa said

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Speaker 2: that the normal custom in Milwaukee County, and again there's

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Speaker 2: fifty branch over fifty branches in Milwaukee County Circre courps

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Speaker 2: zillion judge is to not have your robes on when

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Speaker 2: you're in the hallway, because you only are functioning as

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Speaker 2: So Severa said, normally you don't wear your robes in

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Speaker 2: Severa said, the federal agent whom Dugan questioned was respectful. No. Again,

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Speaker 2: I think this is key. So the ICE agent, according

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Speaker 2: to Judge Severa, was respectful in asking this question. Severa

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Speaker 2: said Dugan was getting worked out. So the person who's

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Speaker 2: getting all hacked office Hannah Dugan. According to Judge Severa's testimony,

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Speaker 2: this is one of those inconvenient truths for the people

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Speaker 2: who want to claim that Ice is this bunch of monsters.

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Speaker 2: The ICE agents are very polite during the core. They

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Speaker 2: probably never anticipated that you'd have a judge that would

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Speaker 2: obstruck them. But Judge Severa said Dugan was fried, She's frost,

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Speaker 2: He's hacked off. Here's Ice of the ward. It just

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Speaker 2: strikes me as the same attitude of irrationality that you're

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Speaker 2: seeing from so many people that left the very existence

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Speaker 2: of ICE, that somehow ICE doing its job, an ICE,

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Speaker 2: a law enforcement agency and forcing its warrants, is in

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Speaker 2: some sort of class that is to be not only

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Speaker 2: disrespected but obstructed. Now we've had some people arguab well,

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be in the courthouse now, I'll get back

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Speaker 2: to the testimony in it. I shouldn't be in the cordos.

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Speaker 2: One of the types of people that you see in

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Speaker 2: the cordos all the time are cops. The cordos is

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Speaker 2: crawling with police officers and sheriff's deputies. In Milwaukee County,

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Speaker 2: all of the bailiffs are sheriff's deputies. It's part of

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Speaker 2: their job. In addition to that, those that are being

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Speaker 2: brought from the jail to a courtroom are accompanied by

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Speaker 2: a jailer. In addition to that who testifies the criminal cases.

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Speaker 2: Lots of cops. You have police officers in Milwaukee West

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Speaker 2: Allison's the one wandering through the courthouse, law enforcement entities,

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Speaker 2: law enforcement officials. These are precisely other people that you

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Speaker 2: perspective of Ice, all right, Ice is looking for somebody.

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Speaker 2: Let's imagine your Ice. Do you want to be iceis

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Speaker 2: should ib Ice? You'll be Ice? All right? Your Ice?

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Speaker 2: You're looking for this guy. You find out he's got

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Speaker 2: a court date on April eighteenth, rather than knock on

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Speaker 2: every door on the south side of Milwaukee, wouldn't it

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Speaker 2: make sense to you to show up at April late

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Speaker 2: tenth the court. That's where you know he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: And the attitude of Dugan in some of these is

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Speaker 2: he was in the court because he's facing criminal charges

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Speaker 2: on another case. If the hacks out in Providence, Rhode

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Speaker 2: Island get their act together and they identify the Brown

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Speaker 2: University killer and find out that he's got a divorce

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Speaker 2: hearing this afternoon, I would hope they shop in the

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Speaker 2: Judge Severa, referring to Dugan, her irritation seemed to progress

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Speaker 2: to anger. Severa testified, I thought she could have been

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Speaker 2: Dugan disappeared. So now Severa is Dugan take her to

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Speaker 2: So Judge Severa I think clearly was angered at this.

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Speaker 2: She was set up and never expected that a fellow

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Speaker 2: was amazed, I thought she left me, Severa testified, adding

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Speaker 2: she also was miffed because she wanted to get to

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Speaker 2: her busy call. And remember Severa's in court too. She

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Speaker 2: trying to help Hannah Dugan obstruct the arrest of a

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Speaker 2: guy that's in her court. Severa's got all of her

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Speaker 2: stuff to do, so Severa probably could have told Dugan

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Speaker 2: help her, and she's being set up. And this is

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Speaker 2: all being testified to by Severa. In front of the

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Speaker 2: jury hearing the Dugan case, Severa was asked what she

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Speaker 2: thought when she learned the FBI was investigating Dugan for

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Speaker 2: allegedly trying to help floresa Rees elude arrest. Shocked, Severa

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Speaker 2: said judges should not be helping defendants evade arrest. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think that should be standd as a given, and

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Speaker 2: that's what this case is all about. Hannah Dugan is

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Speaker 2: a judge who was helping a defendant evade arrest. There

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Speaker 2: are any number of law enforcement authorities in the United

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Speaker 2: States of America, and all of them have arrested authority

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Speaker 2: in this case, it was Ice, It could have been

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Speaker 2: the FBI, It could have been the United States marshals.

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Speaker 2: Wilds is going to grant an interview to someone over

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Speaker 2: in the course of a year, why did she pick them? Now?

427
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Speaker 2: I think part of this is there is Trump has

428
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: some flaws, and I think almost every Donald Trump supporter

429
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: knows he has flaws. One of his flaws is and

430
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: in almost all politicians are narcissists. You have to be

431
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: a narcissist to be compresident United States. You have to

432
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: hit somebody that's an incredibly high opinion of yourself to

433
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: say I can run the free world. And Trump certainly

434
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: has this, and he's had this for the longest time.

435
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I think Trump has a need for people who dislike

436
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: him to like him. The fact that he wants to

437
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: win the Nobel Peace Prize. He's not gonna win that.

438
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: They're not gonna give him the Nobel Trump could return

439
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: the world to where it was before Adam and Eve

440
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: bit the apple in the Garden of Aden, and they

441
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: would not give him the word the Nobel Peace Prize.

442
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: They can't stand him. So Trump is looking, i think,

443
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: for the approval of people who will simply never approve

444
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: of him. And this translates down to Susie Wilds. My

445
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: guess is it's not been stated. My guess is that

446
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Trump greenlighted her doing this, figuring we're just gonna be

447
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: transparent about it, and maybe Vanity fair will give us

448
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 2: a fair shake because we're giving them an inside look

449
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: at what's going on to the administration, They're gonna have

450
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: a fair number of scoops that are gonna come out

451
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: of this and it's not gonna be a hit. I'm

452
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: thinking that's what their thought process is, which, of course

453
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: is wraw. I can relate to this. I think this

454
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: was Susie Wils's Meg Kissinger moment. She want me to

455
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: tell my Meg Kissinger story again for the ninety seven

456
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: thousandth time. Meg Kissinger was a gossip columnist for the

457
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: newspaper and for some reason hit an obsession with me.

458
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: She hated me. I think she had an obsession with

459
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: me because I blew the whistle on the fact that

460
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: she was a paid contributor to the Wrightman and Miller

461
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: radio show. But then when news use her newspaper column

462
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: to like every week put in something that the wackies

463
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: eighty Wrightman and Miller said, I thought unbelievable. Come she's

464
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: being paid to be a contributor on the show and

465
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: then she's putting in her piece puff stuff about Oh.

466
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: I put the whistle on that. This is back in

467
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: the nineties when I first got here, and I was like,

468
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: this is the beginning of my exposing all the craft

469
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: that's going on in the media. Well, she didn't like

470
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: the fact that I blew the whistle on this unethical

471
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: relationship that she had. All Right, several years past, Meg

472
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Kissinger contacts me and said, I want to do a

473
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: lengthy profile on you. Not a gossip column piece, but

474
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: a long story that would appear. I think it was

475
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: a Sunday pa whatever. This is when the paper still

476
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: had long stories and the paper was still think this is.

477
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: It's so far back, it's before the Internet killed newspapers.

478
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: And my thought process is it would be so predictable

479
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: for her to just do a hatchet job, because everybody

480
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: knows that she can't stand me, that she's actually here

481
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: going to kind of go against type and do something fair.

482
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: What an idiot you say. It's about the dumbest thing

483
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: I've done since I've been a talk show. My thought

484
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: that med Kissinger is going to do well. She does

485
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: this piece and it was just a hatchet job. It

486
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: starts with if we met at Miss Katie's Diner, which

487
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: by the way is still aroud Snare Market. It's at

488
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: nineteenth in Clybourne. I think we met there, so she

489
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: writes in the thing, I walked up to Miss Katie's

490
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Diner and I saw it and truck the exterminator she said, Okay,

491
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: I guess I know he's already here. That's how it started,

492
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: and it went down from there, and everything that I

493
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: said was just it was just a rap. Carve me up, said,

494
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: I get for being dumb enough to think that she

495
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: was going to give me a fair shake. And that's

496
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: what I think happened to Susie Wiles. She was dumb

497
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: enough to think that she was going to get a

498
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: fair shake, so she ended up making you know, these

499
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: are eleven conversations over the course of the year, might

500
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Speaker 2: get his hours and hours and hours and hours and

501
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: ours probably lots of stuff that was praise worthy about

502
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: things going on to the administration and so on, and

503
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: that reporter carved out and pulled out everything that she

504
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: said that might be inflammatory and put nothing else in

505
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: the story. Having said that there were some revelations that,

506
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: when you get past the salacious little buzzword, that I

507
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: thought were fairly interesting, she talked about the Jeffrey Epstein

508
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: case and said, yeah, Trump's name is in the files.

509
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: She also said there is nothing in the files that

510
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: suggested that Donald Trump ever acted inappropriately at all at

511
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: any time that he was in the company of Jeffrey Epstein,

512
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: So that's in there in addition to that, Well, you

513
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: photocopied this in a I probably it's just you got

514
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: jump pages that I gotta like flip over and do

515
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: this to read my thing in and it is the

516
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: way it is. You needed a larger paper or a

517
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: smaller things and a larger font, et cetera. Comment and

518
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Elon Musk, well, he us his drugs and he's kind

519
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: of unusual. When he was running DOGE, he would sleep

520
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 2: in a sleeping bag in the executive office building. And

521
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: then she said, well, he's obviously very, very weird, but

522
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: that's how all geniuses are. In other words, you could

523
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: pull that out and say everybody knows his drugs. He

524
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: was on Joe Rogan show, smoke a pot right there

525
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: in front of all of us. But her overall comment

526
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: was he was really obsessed with doing a good job.

527
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: And to the point that here is Elon Musk. He's

528
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: worth I think the latest estimate is now six hundred

529
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: and seventy five billion dollars. He's pushing toward a trillion.

530
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: They're now valuing SpaceX really highly, so that's adding to it. Anyway,

531
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: he can sleep anywhere he wants, but he was committed

532
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: enough to this that he's dragging in a sleeping bag

533
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: hanging around in there. It goes into a number of

534
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: other things and mentions that there was controversy within the

535
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: administration itself on tariffs. There's nothing wrong with that. Of course,

536
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: there were people advised this on the tariff, advised that

537
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: on the tariff. When you have an administration, you're gonna

538
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: have people who have differing viewpoints on various issues on

539
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: the president's sides. She also said that there was I

540
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: think the most damning thing in the piece. Megan Kelly

541
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: made the same comment was when she said that Letitia

542
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: James prosecution was clearly payback. Well, she said that she

543
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: probably said this in an overall discussion of all of

544
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: the people that are being prosecuted for misconduct during the

545
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: time that Biden was in place, and they pull out

546
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: the one where he's, oh, it's probably pay back, and

547
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: she said that we had an agreement that the first

548
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: ninety days he could go and seek retribution, that he

549
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: had to stop. Trump has said that following this, she

550
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: has his full confidence. Now, why would he say this

551
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: after she gave him a after this piece came out,

552
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: and I think it's because Trump told her it's okay

553
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: to do it, and Trump said, tell her tell him everything.

554
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: We want to be transparent. And I think that Trump,

555
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: as critical as Trump is of a fake news in

556
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: the media and so on, I think that he and

557
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: she had this notion that Vanity fair might give him

558
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: a fair shot. Here. I'll tell you this, This is

559
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: likely to be the last candid discussion that anybody in

560
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: the administration has with anybody in any type of mainstream

561
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: media outlet. People bring in this other stuff that JD

562
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Vans is a conspiracy theorist. JD. Vance is as sharp

563
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: on his feet as anyone as I've seen. Do you

564
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: see JD's response to this. You don't seem to have

565
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: you don't seem to be up on the news today.

566
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Numerous things you do. Jdvisag, yes, I am a conspiracy theorist.

567
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm a conspiracy theorist at all of the ones that

568
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: turned out to me true. And JD said, I have

569
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: a great relationship with Susie Wills. We go back and

570
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: forth on this ad and the other thing. Presidents tend

571
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: to make changes at the end of the year and

572
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: are approaching the end of twenty twenty six. Some people

573
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: may stay and some people may go. I do believe

574
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: that Susie Wilds remains very, very close to the president.

575
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: Her job, however, is one of the components of her

576
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: job is the thing that she screwed up here. Her

577
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: job is to stop anybody from embarrassing the president. She's

578
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: the gatekeeper, She's the keep people away, She's the whipcracker.

579
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: That's what the chief of staff is. If somebody else

580
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: in the administration goes and done something dumb, Trump isn't

581
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: going to be the one that gets on the blower.

582
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: She is, and she's going to read them the Riot Act.

583
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: In this instance, it was her, But if Trump's okay

584
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: with it, it has to be because Trump knew that

585
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 2: he was talking to her, and Trump empathizes with her

586
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: that they pulled out a handful of coats and put

587
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: them in a way in which they reflect badly on

588
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: Trump rather than better. Related to this, Trump's comments, the

589
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: media is making a huge deal out of it. On

590
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Rob Rider. Rob Ryder gets killed rob ber and his

591
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: wife gets killed by his son. Trump puts out a

592
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: comment on social media make it very clear what he

593
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: thinks of Rob Reiner, which is that he couldn't stand

594
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Rob Rider and people are horrified by this. All right,

595
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: my take on this? Do you ever take on this?

596
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: You must have that you have to have a take

597
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: on something, Paul you have. Paul said he's not offended

598
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: by a considering that Ryner said about Trump. Well, I'll

599
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: get to the second part, because that is clearly what

600
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: triggered Trump. Brob Reiner came out and repeatedly said that

601
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: Trump was colluding with the Russians. Remember we now know

602
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: that Trump did. How would you like it if somebody

603
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: who had a huge platform, and as Hollywood liberals go,

604
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Rob Ryder had the biggest megaphone of alive, very very influential,

605
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: and he's lying and he's lying about you. However, I've

606
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: had a long standard on my own show. Here, somebody

607
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: dies that I can't stand or just dislike or disapprove of,

608
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: or clashed with, I keep my mouth shut. With the exception,

609
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: you know, of some world tyrant or something osamavan Laden,

610
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: of course I'm going to say that's a good thing.

611
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: But if somebody, some politician, or some developer or somebody

612
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: or another that I thought was that on the up

613
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: and up where I clashed it if they died, not

614
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: just say nothing. And that's what Trump should have done.

615
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: He should have said nothing. In fact, when Dick Cheney died,

616
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Trump really didn't pop off. He didn't go to the

617
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: funeral because he wasn't invited. But there wasn't this, and

618
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney was a visceral opponent of Donald Trump. I

619
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: almost think that in the case of Cheney, Trump at

620
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: least gave him. Okay, he's a public official and I'm

621
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: a public official and so on. But Rob Reiner's craft

622
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: was gratuitous. One of the things you're gonna get with

623
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Trump is that he's not fake, that there's not any

624
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: bs with him. It doesn't like Rob Riders who he

625
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: said so, but obviously I think he should have just

626
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: kept his yaff shut and not said anything at all. However,

627
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: the reaction to this just proves again people react more

628
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: strongly to what people say than what they do. There

629
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: are people in this country angry are Trump than they are.

630
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: Reiners can't have killed his parents, that's being ignored. They're

631
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: not mad at him. He sliced and butchered his parents

632
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: up and you know what, but Trump said, going back

633
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: to the Hannahdukan case that we were talking about. It's

634
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: a violent guy that she was sheltering away. People aren't

635
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: bothered by that at all. They look at some of

636
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: the people that Ice are grabbing. They hate Ice more

637
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: than the individuals that are committing terrible Look at all

638
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: of the crimes that were committed by illegal immigrants during

639
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Speaker 2: the Biden era and so on. You can go through

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Speaker 2: the cases of suburban mothers and people jogging in the

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Speaker 2: woods and so on. Lefties weren't bothered by any of it.

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Speaker 2: They just bothered that Republicans would use it as a

643
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Speaker 2: talking point saying this person shouldn't be allowed into the country.

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Speaker 2: But that is the world we live in. People react

645
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: more strongly to what people say than what they do.

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Speaker 2: I swear, if I want to rob somebody today, I

647
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Speaker 2: would be low, oh less by the lefties in the

648
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Speaker 2: media than if I said something that deeply offended them

649
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Speaker 2: on one of their issues. Oh, you shouldn't have said that.

650
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Speaker 2: In the end, who cares what you say. Nonetheless, those

651
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Speaker 2: are the rules of the game. And Trump is pulved

652
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Speaker 2: by the sword and has died by the sword over them.

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't think he should have said them

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Speaker 2: to I think it's a huge deal that he said it.

655
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: It's part for the course with Trump. The other thing

656
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Speaker 2: is Trump doesn't have much of a filter when it

657
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Speaker 2: comes to these things. Famously, when he was running for

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Speaker 2: president in twenty fifteen, remember when he RiPP mccannon said,

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Speaker 2: he's not a war hero. Why is the hero for

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Speaker 2: getting caught? A lot of people thought that would sink

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Speaker 2: his campaign. The people who supported Trump were perfectly fine

662
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: with it because they knew, Ay, that's what Trump was.

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Speaker 2: And b they think that John mccainn was a pain

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Speaker 2: in the ass. Is shot off his mouth and acted

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Speaker 2: superior to everybody else. Rob Reiner, though, was not as

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Speaker 2: much as he was involved in politics. He wasn't officially

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: a politician in the same way that cain was. You're

668
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Speaker 2: listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark

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Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. Now before the break, we were talking about

670
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Speaker 2: kind of like the negative side of Trump. I want

671
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Speaker 2: to turn to a story that's in the news right

672
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: now that I think is the best of Trump. He's

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Speaker 2: on an attack. They're linked. It's two separate issues kind of,

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Speaker 2: but it's kind of the same issue and kind of separate.

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Speaker 2: He's on a rampage on Venezuela and on fentanyl. They

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Speaker 2: are connected. It is believed that a significant amount of

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Speaker 2: the fenenol entering the United States is coming from Venezuela

678
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Speaker 2: because the Venezuelans needs some way to bankroll their screwed

679
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Speaker 2: up communist economy. Now clearly not all of it is

680
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: coming from Venezuela, but it is related. Trump issued today

681
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Speaker 2: a statement saying that Venezuela is essentially surrounded by an armada.

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Speaker 2: I'll read the quote. This is actually from yesterday. Venezuela

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Speaker 2: is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in

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Speaker 2: the history of South America. It will only get bigger

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Speaker 2: until such time as they returned to the United States

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Speaker 2: of America all of the oil, land, and other assets

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Speaker 2: that they have previously stole from US. I am ordered

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Speaker 2: I have ordering a total and complete blockade of all

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Speaker 2: sanctioned oil takers going in or out of Venezuela. As

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Speaker 2: they've said, much of the drug trade, much of the

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Speaker 2: international smuggling of migrants in Central America and South America,

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Speaker 2: is some cartills that are headquartered in Venezuela. Trump could

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Speaker 2: easily ignore the Venezuelan problem. Venezuela has been a cancer

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Speaker 2: that has affected all of us in the Western hemisphere

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Speaker 2: ever since Hugo Chavez came in and overthrew everything. They

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Speaker 2: nationalized the oil companies, stole everybody's money. He's the Fidel

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Speaker 2: Castro Venezuela. People have been terribly abused. The number you know.

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Speaker 2: I spend a few months in South Florida. It's crawling

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Speaker 2: with Venezuelan refugees, people who have gotten out and tried

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Speaker 2: to get as much as their money as they could

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00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: before the government down there stole it. Trump doesn't have

702
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Speaker 2: to be messing with this, but he realizes that unlike

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Speaker 2: some countries in the world, in which the problem is

704
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Speaker 2: confined to that country, the Venezuelan problem is affecting people

705
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Speaker 2: in the middle class in the United States, in part

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00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: because of the component of fenool, which gets me. That

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Speaker 2: brings me to the next week. Fenenol is Trump is

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Speaker 2: now describing fentanol. He has classified fentanol as a weapon

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Speaker 2: of mass destruction. There are some people who believe that

710
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: this is hyperbole. Is it what has damaged more Americans?

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Speaker 2: Terrorist bombs are fentanyl. I'm serious, and I'm not saying

712
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Speaker 2: that we have not been badly damaged by terrorists, and

713
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Speaker 2: I'll add in terrorist attacks, which is what I think

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Speaker 2: Brown University was. We'll find out soon enough. I think

715
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: that the fentanyl crisis gets yawns from the elite because

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Speaker 2: while it's certainly true that some elitists are on fenool

717
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: and every now and then you'll hear about a celebrity

718
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: that's addicted to it, it's by and large regular Americans.

719
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Now celebrities abuse drugs like crazy, but we just have

720
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Speaker 2: not had a lot of cases of celebrities O ding

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Speaker 2: on fedanol. And I have a theory on this. Well, Matthew,

722
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Speaker 2: but he that was kend of it. It was, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't fedanyl. But you rarely hear of a big time

724
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Speaker 2: celebrity O ding on fetanyl. But on the other hand,

725
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: look at Mekwan cedar Berg New Berlin. Somebody's dropping data

726
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: fetanyl all the time. My theory is is that the

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Speaker 2: people in the elite with a lot of money are

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Speaker 2: able to have I know that this sounds stupid, but

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00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it. A reputable drug dealer, in

730
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: other words, they're drug dealers. Are drug dealers the cater

731
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Speaker 2: to the rich and the famous, and they count on them,

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Speaker 2: not lacing their stuff with fenidol. Also, some of the

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Speaker 2: people in this category, the recreational drug users on the

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Speaker 2: left and all of this stuff, they know enough. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll do I'll even do my hairin I'll do my this,

736
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Speaker 2: that and the other thing. But I'm gonna stay away

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Speaker 2: from fentanyl and I'm gonna stay away from meth. Whereas

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Speaker 2: somebody who just gets targeted, some twenty five year old

739
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: person who's got the blues and somebody gives them a thing.

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Speaker 2: I just think that there is not much of a

741
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Speaker 2: concern in the elite in this country about fenidol. But

742
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: in Middle America people realize that this is a terrible

743
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Speaker 2: Who doesn't you're up there in Cedarburg. How many people

744
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: do you know the diet of fentanyl? It's got to

745
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: be more than fingers on your hand right all over?

746
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: Everybody does. Again, why is Trump focusing so hard on fenandyl?

747
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: I think he cares about this. Every politician of lip service.

748
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna crack grown on drug smuggling. They all say that,

749
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: and you could even if you catch somebody, make sure

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00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: they get good sentences. Trump is going after the distributors

751
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: from overseas that are bringing this in this hole to

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00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: do about whether or not the drug bull should have

753
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Speaker 2: been hit the second time. You know my position on

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00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: this good Aside from whether or not they were going

755
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: to reload. I got bigger problems in my life than

756
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Speaker 2: worrying about whether or not some drug dealer got killed

757
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: out there as they were trying to bring drugs into

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Speaker 2: the United States. I think the fact that Trump has

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Speaker 2: made this issue a priority is particularly to his credit,

760
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: because what with everything else that's on his plate out there,

761
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have to be devoting that many resources to this,

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00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: and it is unusual that a president would work his

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Speaker 2: way into this. I want to get to the Brown

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Speaker 2: University keys. I think you can see this in a

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00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: mile away. This case is being butchered. Why let's start

766
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: with this university police departments. I'll be honest with you.

767
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Some are very good, some stink. Go back to the

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Speaker 2: whole Charlie Kirk thing. The initial response is from the

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00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: university police that are on the campus there. They didn't

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00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: know what they were doing, probably didn't know what they're doing.

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00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: They're university police. They generally don't have a situation like

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Speaker 2: this shooting that's going on out of the middle of

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Speaker 2: nowhere and brought the University police of the first l

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Speaker 2: of seed. I think they completely screwed this thing up.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got the Providence Rhode Island Police Department. Providence

776
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Speaker 2: is as democratic as you can possibly be. First they

777
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: haul somebody in and say that he's a person of interest,

778
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: and then his name is Lake. This poor guy from Cedarberg,

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00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: he had nothing to do with anything. They hauled in

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00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: the wrong guy in for thirty six hours. Whoever it

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00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: was they did it is out there in the wind.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: The FBI always has to play catch up. The FBI

784
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: is not on the scene of these things. And when

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Speaker 2: you have a crime like this, or somebody shooting somebody

786
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Speaker 2: in an open air situation, your best chance of apprehension

787
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: is the spot. I'm right there on the spot, witness testimony.

788
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: Hope that there's a zillion cameras. Again, the guy's got

789
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Speaker 2: mask and he's dressed in all black and so on.

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00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: But immediate response is the first wait that if you

791
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: don't get it, you're gonna have to dig through and

792
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: talk to everybody. Is there anybody who had ill intent?

793
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: Is there somebody who posted something? Do you know anybody

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00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: that's been to radicalize or whatever. I don't even get

795
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Speaker 2: the sense of Brown University that they're focusing on, for example,

796
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian people, the very people that are, or people

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: that have some other type of motivation. I did find

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00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 2: an interesting comment from Mark Helprin. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: Paul who that is, because Paul struck out on every

800
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Speaker 2: question I've asked her today. You should know Mark Helprin is.

801
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: He's pretty prominent. You don't, don't, do you? You know the

802
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: name that's like me saying yeah, I know Breaking Bad

803
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: was a show, but I never I know that Walter

804
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: White was the guy. And who's the actor of the

805
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: Brian Cranston. I know he's very good. I've seen him

806
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Speaker 2: and I know all of that. He's good in everything

807
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 2: that he ever does. They're just certain actors that are

808
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: what's the woman who started Fargo, She's won three oscar

809
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: she's good in everything. Francis McDormand see, I knew that

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00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: all right. Mark Helprin was a Democratic official who's now

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Speaker 2: kind of a moderate. He's got a podcast, but he's

812
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: a reasonable moderate. He appears on Megan Kelly's show, another

813
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: conservative podcast. He also appears with Liberals He's one of

814
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: these people that's actually just tries to honestly and accurately

815
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: report on the news. And he's very well connected. He

816
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: used to be with ABC and his ABC had a

817
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: zillion sources. Anyway, Helprin posted this and I want to

818
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: read here the quote. Helprin said, he has heard that

819
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: the family of Ella Cook. Ella Cook was the Christian

820
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: Conservative who was killed in the Brown University attack. Her

821
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: family has been told that she was the shooter's target.

822
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: Now we don't know that, but Mark Calprin said that

823
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Speaker 2: her family has been given that information. Who they got

824
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: it from, we don't know. But if that's the case,

825
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: if all of this was simply somebody going there to

826
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Speaker 2: kill somebody because she was a prominent Christian, which she was,

827
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Speaker 2: to me, the evidence is overwhelming in our society that

828
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Speaker 2: right now Jewish people and Christians are targeted globally. The

829
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Speaker 2: Eve of Hanukkah attack what do they call it, Bondi

830
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 2: Beach in Australia. There is a separate report out now

831
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Speaker 2: today that the FBI has foiled plans to have multiple

832
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: attacks on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in Los Angeles.

833
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Speaker 2: Pro Palestinian other radicalized people when you see some of

834
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Speaker 2: these people that are radicalized, it's not just one issue

835
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: that pro Palestinian, the pro Frans, they're pro Antifa, et cetera.

836
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: They all seem to loathe the two religions Judaism and Christianity.

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Speaker 2: You have to if you look at the globe, you'd

838
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Speaker 2: have to keep a scorecardist to which one has had

839
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Speaker 2: more attacks. If you add up all the attacks in Africa,

840
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: whether it's genocide against Christians, it's probably Christians. Then you

841
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Speaker 2: look at what's going on in American campus is the

842
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: thing in Australia and so on. There is zero reason

843
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: to believe that this is going to end. We live

844
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: in a world at which non Christians, non Jews, a

845
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: segment of them, clearly not all, but a segment of

846
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Speaker 2: them that is not tiny, have been radicalized. And think

847
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: that these people need to be killed. I think that's undeniable.

848
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Speaker 2: You know, for those of you that are Christian. Jesus

849
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Speaker 2: said this was going to happen. He implied that it

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Speaker 2: be persecuted, you're gonna be killed. And again his message

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Speaker 2: all was, but don't worry about it because in the

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Speaker 2: end you're going to be saved if you're a believer

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Speaker 2: in Me, and everything's gonna work out for you. But

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Speaker 2: it's going to be terrible in the interiom. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that in the history of the world there's again

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Speaker 2: back in this olden days, you didn't have mass reporting

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Speaker 2: in which something that happened way over here would be

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Speaker 2: known about and so on. But these aren't scattered incidents. Religion.

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Speaker 2: I think hatred of Jews, hatred of Christians is the

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Speaker 2: driving force behind the vast majority of this violence. I

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Speaker 2: believe it was certainly the driving force behind the murder

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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk. Go on to the list. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.

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Speaker 2: Every now and then, early on the show, we were

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Speaker 2: talking about how Susie Wilds, Trumps chief of se was

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Speaker 2: way too open and talking to this reporter for Vanity

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Speaker 2: Fair magazine. Every now and then, some lefty i mean

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Speaker 2: lefty shoot off their mouths about everything, but they're usually

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Speaker 2: pretty good at keeping their mouths shut at certain parts

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Speaker 2: of their agenda, are certain things they plan to do.

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Speaker 2: For instance, whoever it was that convinced Joe Biden to

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Speaker 2: totally open up the border. When Biden ran in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: they were they didn't come up. Joe's gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna open up the border. This comment is made

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Speaker 2: by Representative Mark D. Sagnier. He's from California. He was

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Speaker 2: on a podcast and he was asked, you know, in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixty elections, I think most people think

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Speaker 2: it's likely the Democrats are gonna win both the Senate

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Speaker 2: and the House. No, here's the thing that I can

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Speaker 2: guarantee you before I get to this guy's comment, The

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Speaker 2: impeachment hearings will begin the moment they're all sworn in

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Speaker 2: the House. Control is controlled by the Democrats. They can

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Speaker 2: will start. D soigner. The way impeachment works is you

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Speaker 2: need to get a fifty percent vote on conviction in

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Speaker 2: the House, and fifty percent vote rather to impeach in

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Speaker 2: the House, and than two thirds in the Senate. The

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Speaker 2: two thirds in the Senate to convict is the hard one.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, however, how strong the Republican majority in the

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Speaker 2: Senate will be. Let's imagine they get it to sixty

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Speaker 2: one or sixty two, and among the Republicans that are

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Speaker 2: left are Susan Collins. And I'll ask on a couple

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Speaker 2: of the moderates, is it theoretically possible that Trump could

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Speaker 2: be removed from waffas I suppose anyway? D Saigner was

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Speaker 2: asked by a lefty podcast hoster, is it possible that

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Speaker 2: you if the Democrats get control in twenty six, they

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Speaker 2: will impeach both Trump and Vance, which would mean, you

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Speaker 2: know who's third in line for president president and vice

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Speaker 2: president Speaker of the House. It would mean his came, Jeffries,

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Speaker 2: would become the president of the United States. Now, the

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Speaker 2: safeguard against this is if you would convict and impeach

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Speaker 2: and convict Vance gets in and he would immediately try

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Speaker 2: to name his replacements, so you don't have a vacancy,

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Speaker 2: and the vice president so fall to the speaker. But

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Speaker 2: there's a problem with this. The vice president needs to

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Speaker 2: be confirmed by the Senate. They could theoretically impeach Trump,

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Speaker 2: begin impeachment processes and remove Trump, be in impeachment processes

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Speaker 2: on vans, and not confirm Vance's nominee to replace himself

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Speaker 2: as vice president. So that that position is vacant and

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Speaker 2: then remove him. As I say, it seems farfetched, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's farfetched, but this guy was asked, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's possible, we'll do that, and don't think for a

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Speaker 2: moment if they thought they could pull it off, they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't remember. These are the people that say we're out

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Speaker 2: there defending democracy. They couldn't care less about democracy. They

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Speaker 2: would just assume repudiate democracy in order to put themselves

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Speaker 2: back in the power. That's it for today's podcast, But

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Speaker 2: never fear the next one will be number one hundred.

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Speaker 2: It was a few that you have to come it

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Speaker 2: almost because you put the number right out of the thing.

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Speaker 2: Number one hundred is the next one. That's not a

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Speaker 2: chill drop tomorrow and talk to you dad.

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