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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We have college basketball to discuss Dayton a

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Speaker 2: winner last night. NKU A winner last night. We'll dive

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Speaker 2: into some more NKU and we will get some Darren

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Speaker 2: Horn postgame audio as well. There's also a lot of

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Speaker 2: news coming out of college basketball as we speak. One

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, who's the coach at Green Bay in the

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Speaker 2: Horizon League. He went off on a temper tantrum against

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Speaker 2: officiating called for the head of the Horizon League to

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Speaker 2: make some changes. Well, changes were made. Gottlieb has been

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Speaker 2: suspended for one game. You'll hear why Doug Gottlieb was

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Speaker 2: so upset today as well. Last night, Arizona a winner

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Speaker 2: in a top twenty five showdown against BYU, who is

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Speaker 2: now without their second leading scorer in Richie Saunders. AJ

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Speaker 2: DEBONSTA last night, thirty five and seven not enough as

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Speaker 2: Arizona gets to win at home. Creighton, who was seven

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Speaker 2: to top five Yukon and walks out with a ninety

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Speaker 2: for Creighton. It also puts Satan John's at the top

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Speaker 2: of the Big East standings in first place right now,

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Speaker 2: unfortunate news out of Texas Tech as a Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year candidate JT. Toppin was confirmed to have a

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Speaker 2: torn acl in the game the other night. One of

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Speaker 2: the best big men in all of the country in

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Speaker 2: a year that's been dominated a lot by freshman Toppen

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and you certainly feel bad for a player

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Speaker 2: going through that in his last season of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: But a tough break or Texas Tech and last night

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Speaker 2: Alabama in double overtime knocks off Arkansas won seventeen to

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Speaker 2: The college basketball world today, though, centers around Darren Peterson

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Speaker 2: of the Kansas Jayhawks. Darren Peterson last night, scoring wise,

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Speaker 3: In the game.

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Speaker 2: But he only played eighteen minutes. Eighteen minutes last night

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Speaker 2: for Darren Peterson, and that was not a coach's decision.

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Speaker 2: Bill Selth after the game last night said quote, We've

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Speaker 2: had this happen more than a couple times. I didn't

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Speaker 2: of him. It's disappointing because he could have had a

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Speaker 2: really big night. It's not just what he said, it's

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Speaker 2: the frustration that Bill self had on his face last

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Speaker 2: night when talking about Darren Peterson, who has now missed

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Speaker 2: twelve of what twenty five games that Kansas has played in.

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Speaker 2: He's also not played in the second half in multiple games.

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Speaker 2: He's missed games due to cramping. He's missed games due

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Speaker 2: yet a lot of people view Darren Peterson as one

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Speaker 2: of the best or the best prospect coming in this

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Speaker 2: year's draft, and it sparked conversation around the country of

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Speaker 2: Smith coming out and said, I wouldn't draft him. I

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Speaker 2: I questioned him as a teammate. It's been a weird

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Speaker 2: Then you've got to take the power away. And then

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Speaker 2: what's he gonna do? Stop playing? Well, there's a big

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Speaker 3: You know what he's gonna do, not play against Houston.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna hear all of this, he's gonna see all this,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna play thirty six minutes against the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: on Saturday maybe, and he's gonna go out and try

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I don't think that that dude

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Speaker 2: I think he's had one anyone else's opinion in his

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Speaker 3: He cares about getting his money, which he will in

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Speaker 3: scoring points and you're taking care of yourself, that's the

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Speaker 3: culture that is a big part of college athletics. It's

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Speaker 3: a big part of sports in general, especially for younger

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Speaker 3: the type of stuff that has driven coaches away from sports,

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Speaker 3: and Bill self is dealing with that and in a

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Speaker 3: You know, this is this is part of it.

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Speaker 2: Jay Williams and Kendrick Perkins made the point today of

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Speaker 3: I think it's part of it. I think it's also

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Speaker 3: giving millions of dollars to young people, but to a point.

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Speaker 2: But to a point like Boozer from Duke to Bonsta

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Speaker 2: and as as different values. As Jay Williams concluded today,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how exactly is that going to be handled?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I don't understand, because if you're Kansas,

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Speaker 2: Because he's he's making his money regardless that you bench him,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean even if if players get benched

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Speaker 3: You can force it.

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Speaker 2: You can almost handle it more in the NBA now

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Speaker 2: I'll sit and then I'll either go pro or I'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, there's a set of rules, there's a player's union,

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Speaker 3: there's multi year contracts, there's a governing body that doesn't

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Speaker 3: And so Bill self, I would love to see him

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Speaker 3: try to bench him. What's he gonna do. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna do what Bill self says. He could just be done.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't care. So you have to be very careful

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: Guy legitimately just doesn't look like he cares. But he's

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Speaker 3: Change it and nothing will change it. And you kind

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Speaker 3: You know, it is a it's a different world right now.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know where I was landing that plane. You

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Speaker 3: It's a unique situation. We'll get Rick Buryin's thoughts on

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Speaker 3: How about the Olympics. We sat here during the show

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Speaker 3: yesterday Austin and watch all watched Canada in overtime keep

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Speaker 2: What a thriller in Milan yesterday for team USA winning

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Speaker 3: The hockey has been wonderful, awesome. We watched more curling

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much the average rock ways that

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Speaker 3: Most of that feels like a stupid question now today

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Speaker 2: A rare, exceptionally dense and water resistant granite that is carried,

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Speaker 2: Water resistant granted, water resistant granted. But Olympics have been

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Speaker 2: obviously fun to watching. The USA women's hockey team will

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Speaker 3: And another chapter in the USA Canada. Oh yeah, this

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Speaker 3: rivalry is growing by the moment. Other news, how about

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag's debut jersey for the alas Maverick selling for

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Speaker 3: one million dollars? Not bad?

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Speaker 2: How about the MLBPA elevating Bruce Meyer to their executive

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Speaker 2: had to act fast after everything that's gone on with

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Speaker 3: I mean just wonderful performance in front of I think

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Speaker 3: about seventeen people out there in Santiago, Dominican Republic. What

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Speaker 3: was that in the COCKACAFF champions Cup. Yeah, that's how

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Speaker 2: We've got a coaching news in college football. The head

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Speaker 2: Five one, three seven, fourteen thirty on the Home of

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Speaker 7: If Brian Ramirez across the end of the box far

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Speaker 7: post Smith will give Chase Goes over his head outside

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Speaker 3: Over Scott Barlow with the goal, A hush, a hush

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Speaker 2: As FC Cincinnati wins it last night. I believe this

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Speaker 3: Was it this weekend? That's right? This weekend against Atlanta

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Speaker 3: sponsored sports sportstership. That's it. Actually, I kind of like that,

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Speaker 2: Last night, the Norse starting to find their way a

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Speaker 6: Total team effort tonight, I think from start to finish,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like this to me.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Gottlieb had to say after the game.

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Speaker 8: I need the league to explain to me why I

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Speaker 8: I need Donnie at the League and the new commissioner

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Speaker 3: Donnie, that's what I need explain to me.

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Speaker 8: played hard, they did what they do. They played tough,

437
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Speaker 8: and they play aggressive. I need somebody to explain to me. Okay,

438
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Speaker 8: how how just those two. There's others that I have

439
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 8: massive issues with. Okay, others that have a mask, including

440
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Speaker 8: every time we touched him. There was a foul in

441
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Speaker 8: the second half, the last play of the game, just

442
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Speaker 8: to get the ball.

443
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: They're grabbing us and holding us.

444
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Speaker 8: Okay, and again, I understand if you're not calling that,

445
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 8: that's fine. You had the exact same play at both

446
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 8: ends in the last play of the game, the exact

447
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 8: same play. Oh gosh, the exact same play. So I

448
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 8: need the new commissioner of the Horizon League to explain.

449
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Speaker 3: To me what a technical foul is.

450
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Speaker 8: When I don't leave the box, I don't curse, I'm

451
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Speaker 8: not demonstrative.

452
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Speaker 3: Okay.

453
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Speaker 8: There was nothing, nothing that should have been called a

454
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Speaker 8: technical foul. I know when I earned one. I did

455
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Speaker 8: not earn one.

456
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Speaker 3: He knows when he earns one. He went on for

457
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Speaker 3: another minute. Oh my god. After that now.

458
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Speaker 2: He he didn't cuss on the floor, He cussed in

459
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Speaker 2: the post game.

460
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Speaker 3: He did knocked the microphone over. Yeah, he slammed his

461
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Speaker 3: hands on the table. He but you know that's what

462
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Speaker 3: he wasn't on the court, He wasn't demonstrative. No, he

463
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: didn't curse, he didn't leave his box. No, But in

464
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Speaker 3: the postgame presser he sure.

465
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Speaker 2: Did called out the officials, called out the Horizon League

466
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Speaker 2: commissioner herself.

467
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Speaker 3: Didn't know her name though. No.

468
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Speaker 2: In a statement made by the Horizon League later yesterday,

469
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Speaker 2: the Horizon League is the spending Green Bays basketball coach

470
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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb for violating the league's operating regulations. As a result,

471
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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb has been suspended for Friday's game against Oakland.

472
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Speaker 2: Gottlieb's postgame comments do not reflect the league's values or

473
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Speaker 2: sportsmanship expectations. The Horizon League considers this matter closed and

474
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Speaker 2: will have no further comment. Now there is a Since then,

475
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb has issued an apology, and you knew that

476
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: was coming. But there's like audio and video where he

477
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: really didn't demonstratively go at the official in any way.

478
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Speaker 2: He was teed up whether you agree with it or not,

479
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: you could tell that that's a guy who's just kind

480
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: of stewing on things and used that platform to absolutely

481
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Speaker 2: explode on not only the Horizon League, but the as well.

482
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Speaker 3: I think he missed doing the radio show that was it.

483
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Speaker 3: You know, he hasn't he hasn't had a chance to

484
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: really just brain dump in a while, hasn't had a

485
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: chance to passionately defend a stance, and you know, it's

486
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: been focusing so much on basketball. I hadn't had a

487
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: chance to to really let it rip, you know, and

488
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Speaker 3: get his therapy in, like, and he just went off

489
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Speaker 3: and he transported himself. I'm surprised you didn't just like

490
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 3: throw to a break afterwards. All right, we'll be right

491
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Speaker 3: back from the tirec backop studio. Surprised? Could you?

492
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Speaker 2: Could you like Mesh part of his and part of

493
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin's in their postgame brands.

494
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Speaker 3: I just loved that one. As time has gone on,

495
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: like the Cronin video is just it's getting worse and worse.

496
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: It's getting funnier and and I don't think it's funny

497
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: because I think he's it is funny, but like it's sad,

498
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: so at the same time, Mick is a bad guy.

499
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Speaker 2: They took the background noise of one shining moment. Have

500
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: you I've seen this, and they just put kind of

501
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: every Mick Cronin rant with the background music playing, and

502
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: it was fantastic. I just I love entertainment in sports,

503
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: and we have certainly seen a ton of that this week.

504
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears, Let's come back. Let's talk a little

505
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: Red spring training. They got their first scrimmage coming up.

506
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what to expect from that, who's starting

507
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: the scrimmage, and so many other loose ended topics that

508
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: are happening in Goodyear Arizona as the Reds continue to

509
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: get ready for opening day, which now Austin sits what thirty.

510
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Speaker 3: Five days away?

511
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Speaker 2: Jose Travino, Jose Travino thirty five days away inspire from

512
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Speaker 2: opening Day. We'll talk more on that next ESPN fifteen

513
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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Dation.

514
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Speaker 3: Thanks to Skyline Chili. Are you experiencing on one of

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Speaker 3: AG's and pain Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's sixty three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnatis Sports Station.

517
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Speaker 2: Thanks to our friends, It's Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling

518
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: good and hungry. It is Skyline time. I am scheduled.

519
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm slated often to have Skyline for dinner tonight.

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00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: Really.

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it is the first art show that our kids

522
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: are a part of. Wow, wild and Wesley's first art show,

523
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: and their school partnered up with a Skyline Chili where

524
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: some of the proceeds go back to the school.

525
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Speaker 3: What did they what art did they create? We don't know.

526
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it. We've not seen any of this.

527
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: They didn't know what's happening until I said it this morning.

528
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: Oh so they're working on it as we speak.

529
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Probably. Do you think, you know, when it's like arts

530
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: and crafts time at the school that they just throw

531
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Speaker 3: us on the speaker? Yes?

532
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a high likelihood that we are

533
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Speaker 2: kind of the background noise.

534
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Speaker 5: Right.

535
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: They've been doing Olympic Week at school. They've been doing

536
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: some Olympic stuff, So I'm sure with our Olympic updates,

537
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: they've been tuning in.

538
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: Often based off of the content that you've been posting

539
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: on your instrut, it seems like Wilder is going to

540
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: be competing in the Olympics someday.

541
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Speaker 2: He's he's a bucket. He's a bucket right now. He's uh,

542
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: he's doing he's doing well, by the way. Uh, scheduled

543
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: for a one ten start the Olympic gold medal game

544
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: between USA and Canada women's hockey.

545
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: That might get.

546
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Pushed back a little bit because Sweden and Switzerland the

547
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: bronze medal game is in overtime right now, so that

548
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: game time may get pushed back a little bit. Will

549
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: keep you up to speed, and uh, uh, maybe let

550
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: you know when and if a couple of goals are

551
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: scored by Team USA. Now we we talked very briefly yesterday.

552
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Chase Burns was named the starter for the first scrimmage

553
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Correct, Yes, first scrimmage coming up for the Reds.

554
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Is it just scrimmage?

555
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 5: Oh?

556
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: Know what do we call him? Game?

557
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: Inn?

558
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: Squad? No? No, they play another team? Squad? Who do

559
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: they play? Cleveland Garlands? Who play Cleveland every year? First game?

560
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: I guess we'll call it a game now, the spring

561
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: training game, all right, Chase Burns will be on the

562
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: on the bump. The Cactus League opener, the Cactus League opener?

563
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Speaker 2: How many do they play? Too many? It's so bad? Actually,

564
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know I feel like.

565
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Speaker 3: Sometimes they do like split squad and play two games

566
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Speaker 3: at once. Yeah, I was about to say, I feel

567
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: like there are fewer split squad games this year. I

568
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: don't know if that's on purpose. I don't know if

569
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Speaker 3: I made that up, but it feels like there are

570
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: fewer split squads okay this year. I mean, just looking

571
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: at it, I only see three on the schedule, okay,

572
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: and normally there's been a lot and that probably I

573
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: would assume that might have to do with the World

574
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic and stuff like that. But by the way,

575
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: the Reds play Cuba in a spring training game, Oh,

576
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of cool. That is cool. They're playing the

577
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic the Cuban national team. That is cool.

578
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Speaker 3: Uh in a on March fourth.

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Speaker 2: UH Terry Francona spoke earlier today as well about Cees.

580
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Speaker 2: Ces kind of been like the un the guy we

581
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Speaker 2: haven't talked about at all. Sas Terry Francona said that

582
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: uh Cees could get into spring training games at the

583
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Speaker 2: beginning of next week.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

585
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Speaker 2: He also said on Ces this spring, sometimes when you

586
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: work hard, regardless of what's going on numbers wise, he

587
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: has been able to do just that. Let's see how

588
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: good he can be. That's a healthy way to look

589
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Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, he did have that hamstring injury. Are

590
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Speaker 2: you expecting anything at all from Cees? No, Like, would

591
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Speaker 2: anything at all be a huge, huge.

592
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Speaker 3: In terms of the big league club. Yes, No, I

593
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: don't expect anything from There's just not a spot there

594
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Speaker 3: for him. I think the Nathaniel low thing was was

595
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: kind of riding on the wall there. You know, Hey,

596
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: we don't expect much from Sas either. I would like

597
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: to know kind of what he's focusing on. Is he

598
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: playing any third base? Is he playing any outfield? Because

599
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Speaker 3: I feel like that happened at one point. Don't quote

600
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Speaker 3: me on that, but like, what's the defensive plan with him?

601
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Because it feels like it's gonna be Sal Stewart or

602
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: Spencer Steeer or maybe even Nathaniel Lowe at least for

603
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Speaker 3: this year. Who knows about next year and the year after.

604
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: So what's the plan with Sas? Yeah? It would it

605
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: could be one of those things for they hope he

606
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: plays really well and they can trade him.

607
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: The Nathaniel low addition. Now, Nathaniel low is not guaranteed

608
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: an opening day roster spot. He's not a minor league deal,

609
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: but he's won a Gold Glove and they brought him

610
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: in for a reason. My question is, if you have

611
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Speaker 2: Trevigno's your backup catcher, Dame Myers is your fourth outfielder,

612
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: does it not come down to bladet Low or Will

613
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Benson for the final roster spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right.

615
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Speaker 2: I saw what Art Brandon Glick wrote about this. Who

616
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Speaker 2: gets that edge in your opinion? Because you made to

617
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: mention last week that Will Benson is still a rising talent.

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And based off of what Charlie Goldsmith wrote this

619
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Speaker 3: week about Benson, it seems like Benson's going to be

620
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Speaker 3: on this team.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean we possibly don't see JJ bloday? Yeah,

622
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Speaker 2: and that's on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 3: I think it's closer to Bleday and Myers as a competition,

624
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: the competition more than it is Will Benson.

625
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting to look at it that way. Another player

626
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Speaker 2: that I saw some folks talking about for the Cincinnati

627
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Reds because last year because of his suspension, I think

628
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Noel A. Martin, what you got from him down the

629
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Speaker 2: stretch was an added bonus and you start to look

630
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Speaker 2: at Okay, is there a player on the twenty twenty

631
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: six team that can make a return. Maybe that we're

632
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: not talking about a lot, And I think it'd be

633
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: great to talk to Charlie Goldsmith about this yesterday. But

634
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: does Chase Petty have a future with this organization? He

635
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: was abysmal last year in three games.

636
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he does. I mean it's still

637
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: a really young guy. I think they still really like him.

638
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: That the depth of the starting pitching status, it's not

639
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: he's needed right now. Yeah, it's not something like, you know,

640
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: they have to have him and right away. He was

641
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: kind of rust into action at times last year and

642
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: maybe wasn't entirely ready and was kind of forced into

643
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: it again after he had gotten shelled. So yeah, I

644
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: think he's he's a part of it. I think everybody

645
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: is a trade piece in Major League Baseball. But yeah,

646
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: I think the Reds one of their organizational goals this

647
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: year is really to develop those guys that are seven, eight, nine,

648
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: ten in the organizational depth chart of starting pitching. Yeah,

649
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: so Rhet Louder is Rhet Louder. Chase Burns five to six,

650
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: You've got Brandon Williamson, You've got Chase Petty and others

651
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: down that line where they need to get more out

652
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Speaker 3: of that group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm it's one of those things where

654
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: it's just the way baseball's played. You can never really

655
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: rest on what you have. You enjoy what the rotation

656
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: looks like, but you have to be still looking forward

657
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: to the future and the opportunity that can still present

658
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: itself for this team.

659
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think another one that is in that same

660
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Speaker 3: vein as Julian Agie Are. I think that's a name

661
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on as somebody. But you know,

662
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: I think the last time we had Charlie on, he

663
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: talked about how he has that worry about the depth

664
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Speaker 3: of the starting pitching after the top five and or

665
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: really after the top six, and how some teams over

666
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: the course of a season need fifteen starters to get

667
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: through it because of injuries. And if you think back

668
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: to like, even as good as is, how even as

669
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Speaker 3: good as the red starters had been in the past,

670
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Speaker 3: and especially last year, they still let the trade deadline

671
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: went out and got a starting pitcher because they didn't

672
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: have faith in that depth and obviously the injuries as well.

673
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a huge thing for this organization. I

674
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: think this year to see some development from that part

675
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Speaker 3: of the roster. And again that's not necessarily a major

676
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: league impact. It's can you have these dudes ready to

677
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: go when the major leagues are gonna call? And then

678
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: because it will, that's how it happens.

679
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Speaker 2: There's a playoff odds calculator that Fangrafts has that I am, I'm.

680
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: Very interested in.

681
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Speaker 2: And to me, I don't know what to make of

682
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: where the Reds sit in the National League, because I

683
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: like to think that they're better than what they were

684
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: last year. But according to Fangrafts, they have the Reds

685
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Speaker 2: odds to just make the playoffs as the fifth lowest

686
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Speaker 2: at all of the National League Rockies, Nationals, Marlins, Cardinals,

687
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: and then the Reds. They give them a twenty point

688
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: three percent chance to make the playoffs. Above them the Padres,

689
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, the Giants, the Brewers.

690
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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

691
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Austin Fangrafts has the Pirates at a forty three percent

692
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs going into twenty twenty six. Yeah,

693
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: people really like what the Pirates have done. This often Cubs, Phillies, Mets, Braves, Dodgers.

694
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: So I think it's a little low. How oft does

695
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: this feel to you, because I think the Reds have

696
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: a better chance than twenty percent to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's about right. To be honest,

698
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: you think they're that far behind the Pirates right now.

699
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're that far behind the Pirates,

700
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: but I mean, the Pirates always give the Reds hell,

701
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: and the Cubs are still very much formidable. Milwaukee is

702
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: still very much formidable. The Pirates are going to be

703
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: a better team for all those reasons. That makes your

704
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: schedule more difficult. The Phillies and the Mets and the

705
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Braves have all spent a lot of money to fix

706
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: their issues. Arizona's got some injuries at the moment, but

707
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, the Padres, and the Giants have all spent

708
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: a ton of money to fix their issues. I think

709
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: it's more reflective of the rest of the National League

710
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: than it is specifically about the Reds. And it's not

711
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: to say that the Reds have had a bad offseason.

712
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they have. I think they've been Okay,

713
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: we gave it a grade what last week or two

714
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: days ago, C plus C minus. I don't know that

715
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: it's enough to get them over the hump. Nobody looks

716
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: at the Reds and things to ninety four win ball club.

717
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Nobody looks at him and says, that's a ninety win team.

718
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: It's somewhere between eighty two and eighty eight, and that's

719
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, is that enough to win the National League Central?

720
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: Is that enough to get the final wildcard spot? I

721
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Speaker 3: don't know.

722
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Their NL Central fangraft projection is eight point nine percent.

723
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't want to turn this in

724
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh, but they there are people that believe Connor Griffin,

725
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: the shortstop in Pittsburgh and the presumed opening day shortstop, yeah,

726
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: is like the next best thing and the next big

727
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: thing at shortstop.

728
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that major league. But he spent a lot of

729
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: talk about him. Obviously, schemes in their pitching staff, yeah,

730
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: I mean they've got some depth there. They went and

731
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: got Barcelos and they've got some good Now. I don't

732
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: know that there's a lot of Pirates fans seem to

733
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: want Andrew McCutchen back. He's thirty nine years old, he

734
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: still wants to play. Released a hype video today. Would

735
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: you take a flyer on Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, I mean,

736
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: what do you Why wouldn't you. He's thirty nine years

737
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: old and you got a bunch of outfielders already. You're

738
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: talking about here in Pittsburgh here. Oh yeah, i'd take

739
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: a flyer on the Cutchen. Okay, yeah, I probably would too.

740
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: I like m Cutchen.

741
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no reason to really. But yeah, last

742
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: year Mcutchen still hit two forty.

743
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, on this kid, just fall out of

744
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: bed and hit it. But yeah, it's I I think

745
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: the Cubs are a little overrated. I'll say that. I

746
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: think the Pirates and the Reds are very close. And

747
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to make of Milwaukee. But

748
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like we said this a thousand times,

749
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: they'll be good. It's just it's it's the margin of

750
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: air is just very thin. It feels like an es

751
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Central issue. Yeah, every single team, with the exception of

752
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, who aren't trying to win baseball games anymore,

753
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: is somewhere between seventy eight and eighty eight wins. Yeah,

754
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: and that I think is the biggest reason why those

755
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 3: numbers are the case. And kind of, like I said

756
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: earlier this week, I think sometimes the numbers get in

757
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: the way of like, Okay, are these guys. Do these

758
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: guys have it or not sure? And so for them

759
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: people that have been there. And I put a lot

760
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: of stock in what Joe Daniman said to us the

761
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: other day, which is that you know, he's been to

762
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: a lot of spring trainings and covered a lot of teams,

763
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: and he walked into Too Goodyear this week and was like, yes,

764
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: this is a playoff team. And when you can tell

765
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: you know the difference that I think means something stands out.

766
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: And I do think the advantage of Terry Francona, even

767
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: though we disagreed with a lot of the stuff he

768
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: said or he did last year, I think that can

769
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: be an advantage.

770
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Phone lines were open five, one, three, seven, four nine,

771
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We will end our number one. We'll welcome

772
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: in Rick Broying to kick off our number two. It

773
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Speaker 2: all comes up next ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

775
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back cinty three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chilli

776
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: rolling along.

777
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: End of our number one.

778
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Speaker 2: Let's see if we could squeeze in one or two

779
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: phone calls let's start with Marcus.

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00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: What's up, Marcus Hey about Tyler Stevenson this year? Apparently

781
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 5: everything I'm reading and I'm seeing they are so far

782
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: apart on years and money for an extension. And I

783
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Speaker 5: don't know if Jeff Carr said it when he was

784
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: on with you guys or with MO, but apparently they

785
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: like he's under the oppression that they could get something

786
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 5: done in the offseason.

787
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: Are we confident.

788
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: Because of how far apart supposedly they are, and with

789
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: him taking the Reds to arbitration this year, that they're

790
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: going to get a deal done and if not, do

791
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: you trade him at the deadline no matter where the

792
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: Red d are in the playoff him?

793
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus, I think that's a fair question. I appreciate

794
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: the phone call.

795
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: You know.

796
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a weird situation because I think when he's going good,

797
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: he's one of the best hitting catchers you can have

798
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: in baseball Austin. He's obviously had some bumps and bruises,

799
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: He's had some injury concerns. I don't know if he's

800
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: been one hundred percent right since the shoulder injury, but

801
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: it feels like with arbitration and how these tools IDEs

802
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: wore a part on the number. I wouldn't expect an

803
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: extension with Tyler Stevensima.

804
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: Jill, I don't at the moment. I think the way

805
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: that Tyler described it before the season. When he met

806
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: with the media last week, he described it feeling bittersweet,

807
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: like the conversations he was having with his wife prior

808
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: to this season, because it kind of feels like this

809
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: is it yep for him and the Reds and obviously

810
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: they go into too arbitration and Stevenson wins. But I

811
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting what Charlie Goldsmith had written about this.

812
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: He said before twenty twenty six, no homegrown Reds player

813
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: had taken or had they had gotten rid of. Who

814
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: was it India Winker, Stevens or I forget exactly what

815
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: it was here it is I got it India, Jesse Winker,

816
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Swore as Barnhardt. They all were either traded or non

817
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: tendered before their sixth season in the big leagues. And

818
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: you know, this could be a similar situation, especially if

819
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Jose Travino plays the way he did last year. Yeah. Now,

820
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: the problem is the Rets have no catching depths at

821
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: all in their organization, So I don't know if they'd

822
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: be willing to trade him at the deadline this year

823
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: unless they're getting a catcher in return.

824
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think that would have from him. But

825
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: it is interesting looking into the future. One more here,

826
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: what's up Mike?

827
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks a lot, interesting talking about the baseball

828
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: for me. Be a question for you. The Cactus League

829
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 4: is in the on the West coast. What is the

830
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: East coast preseason.

831
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Speaker 3: Called Grapefruit League in Florida?

832
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: Very well done. I'm proud of you. Good job. I

833
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: heard people say the Orange League and the Pepperoni League.

834
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell they say, but anyway,

835
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: good job, good job. And do you remember the last

836
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: which hitter to win the MLB in the American leagues?

837
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: The MVP?

838
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Yes, they're the last switch hitter to win the MVP

839
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: in the American League.

840
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, Austin, I had no idea, I know,

841
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: not in the American League.

842
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say Tipper Jones won it, but

843
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: that's National League.

844
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: Vite of Blue, the weft handed ace of the Oakland As.

845
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy two, the year before the designated hitter

846
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: came in, he won the Cy Young and he won

847
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: the MVP and he was a switch hitter.

848
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: Not a bad year.

849
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 4: You can win a ton of money in the bar

850
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: on that tribut. I never got it. I never got

851
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 4: that one. That's when the Ads were pretty dominant. I

852
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: think they won three Worlds Series back in the seventies.

853
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: I think they won one more than the rest. I

854
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: got a quick rundown. I told you I was going

855
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: to try to Oh Florida. Florida is, by the way,

856
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 4: I'm going to win the March Madness Sport is gonna

857
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: win it. I'm convinced. But now it's gonna give you

858
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: a quick rundown on the Pirates. I'll just do a

859
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: team each day if I Potokia. Here's what we got

860
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: for their twenty twenty six lineup. They got a young

861
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: catcher they're pretty high on after last year named Joey Bart,

862
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: the backup guy named Henry Davis. There's first baseman who's

863
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: at Yeah. The first baseman is really the guy that

864
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: came up last year was just killing the balls. His

865
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 4: name is Spencer horre Witz, left handed hitter. They got

866
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: Brandon Lowe to play second base from the Rays. He's

867
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: hitting third. Their third baseman Jared Triolo, who's a young

868
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: Studs is hitting cleanup. Connor Griffin's scheduled to hit fifth.

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Speaker 4: Ryan O'Hearn, who they picked up in free agency, was

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Speaker 4: the first baseman and also a left fielder. He's going

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Speaker 4: to be playing left. And they got the great O'Neil Cruz,

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Speaker 4: dynamite center fielder hitting six, Brian Reynolds career good hitter

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Speaker 4: in right field, and Marcel Azuna hitting as a DH.

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Speaker 4: And then they got schemes in Keller and Braxton as

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Speaker 4: you had mentioned earlier here the other day, and their

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Speaker 4: closure is has a stud of a last half of

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Speaker 4: the season. Last year, Dennis santana I had a two

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Speaker 4: point one to six with sixteen saves after the All

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Speaker 4: Star break. And they got a lefty closer named brag

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Speaker 4: Soto who's been around a little bit. So that's it

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Speaker 4: on my pirates.

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Speaker 2: Mike, and a and a really good young shortstop coming

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Speaker 2: up as well. That's going to take the league by storm. Mike,

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Speaker 2: thank you for the phone call. We appreciate you. It

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Speaker 2: it is I think when you lay it out, there

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Speaker 2: is a path that Pittsburgh surprises some people, or maybe

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Speaker 2: not not a surprise anymore. But can do some damage

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Speaker 2: in the NL Central this year. Let's break, Let's come back,

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Speaker 2: and Rick Browing will join us to kick off Hour

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Speaker 2: number two. We've got some Norse, some Muskies, and overall

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Speaker 2: college hoops.

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