WEBVTT - 12-30-25 America's Truckin' Network 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.240 This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:07.040 Loco aboard. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.440 Thanks for tuning in on this sixth Day of Christmas. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.480 Yes, it is the sixth day of Christmas. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.160 Period leading up to Christmas is not the twelve Days 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.320 of Christmas. That is the advent season, which is about 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.840 four weeks long. The twelve days of Christmas refers to 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.160 Christmas being the first day of Christmas and then going 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.280 for another twelve days up to January of the fifth 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.639 and then the Epiphany when by the Bible and by 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.239 tradition and history that the three Wise men came to 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:44.000 visit the baby Jesus in Bethlehem. So again we talk 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.280 about the twelve days of Christmas, and we talk about 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.720 that that in terms of the celebration of Christmas and 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.800 following the traditions as far as the Christian calendar is concerned, 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.920 and if you're familiar with the song, the sixth Day 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.640 of Christmas is six geese of laying see six geese 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.720 a laying which, unlike the spoon federal gurgitators in the 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.520 main street mainstream media, we don't lay any goose eggs 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.880 around here. We have been asbout as accurate on the 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.520 economy and predictions, and especially when you look at some 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.480 of the predictions coming out of some of these economists. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.360 And let me remind you that the economists a definition 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.959 is an economist is an expert who will know tomorrow 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:32.520 why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today. And 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.360 so here on America's Truck a Network, we take a 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.960 look at behind the numbers. Look, we dig into the 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.840 numbers and come up with the facts, and we have 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.320 been right a lot more than the spoon federal regurgitators 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.240 in the mainstream media and some of these predictions that 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.920 we've been seeing from these so called experts in the economy. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.320 We want to talk about last week right before actually 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.880 the day before Christmas, because Christmas fell on a Thursday. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.120 Usually that's when the initial job as claims are reported, 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.840 and because obviously Christmas they were going to be closed, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.520 so they announced those the day before Christmas on that Wednesday. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.520 But looking at the initial job as claims. Before we 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.840 get to that, I want to mention that America's Truck 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.880 and Network supports the mission of Reese across America. You 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.240 can hear us every truck and Tuesday at five am 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.600 and ten am Eastern on REES Across America Radio, available 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.560 on the iHeartRadio app. Search the word REEF now that's 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.440 w r E A t HS for Rees across the 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.480 Rees Across America Radio. And thank you to all our 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.160 truckers who for supporting the mission of Rees across America. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.840 Initial jobless claims last week again the economists. See what 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.840 the economists had to say looking at some of the 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.960 headlines that there was a couple of headlines that popped 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.000 out to me. US initial job as claims fall to 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.000 two d and twelve two hundred and fourteen thousand, which 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.520 is pretty good. Then another one from Reuters US weekly 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.680 jobless claims fall, but more people collecting unemployment checks. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.400 So let's dig into this. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.880 Number of Americans filing for new applications for jobless claims 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.160 unexpectedly fell last week. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:15.960 Unexpected. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.560 How many times have we heard unexpectedly when it's basically 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.720 good news having to do with the economy consistent with 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.040 the low level of layoffs. But the unemployment rate likely 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.320 remained high in December amid sluggish hiring. We'll get into 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.800 that in a moment. Initial claims for state unemployment benefits 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.360 dropped to a second for second straight week, declining by 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.240 ten thousand to a seasonally adjusted two hundred and fourteen 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.560 thousand for the week end of December twentieth, the Labor 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.720 Department set on Wednesday. Economists polled by wool Reuters had 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.760 forecasts two hundred and twenty four thousand, claims. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.440 They were off by five percent. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.760 Now, in accounting terminology, that is considered a material difference. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.040 Even though it's only a five percent difference, it's still material. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.280 The Labor Department published the report a day early because 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.880 of the Christmas holiday. Part of the surprise decline in 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.320 applications could reflect the challenges adjusting the data for seasonal 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.680 fluctuations around the year and in the holidays season, of course, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.680 you know, adjusting the numbers. Let's not forget that the 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.880 unemployment number that they reported had jumped from four point 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.920 four percent up to four point six percent. You think 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.800 maybe some of the seasonal adjustment in there may be 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:31.880 reflected in that. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:32.760 I believe so. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.920 Now, this fellow by the name of Christopher Rupke, chief 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.400 economist at Forward Bonds. Usually he comes up with some 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.160 knucklehead comments, and I don't agree with him, but this 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.240 is kind of an interesting comment. From him. Unless companies 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.679 actually fire workers, the economy will continue to move forward 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.680 at a moderate pace. Now, if the economy is moving 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.919 forward at a moderate pace, that would mean that the 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.440 unemployment level is not going up. So again a little 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.800 bit of emphasis and proving my point that the unemployment 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.560 rate that we're hearing isn't accurate. Labor department remains locked 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.799 in what economists called the policymakers described as a no hire, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.520 no fire mode. We've talked about that on this program 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:23.200 program numerous times for several months. Though the economy remains resilient, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.799 with the gross domestic product increasing at its fastest paced 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.760 in two years is reported, as we mentioned last week, 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.400 at that four point three percent clip, the labor department. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.760 Has almost almost stalled. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:40.600 Economists said President Donald Trump's import tariffs and immigration crackdown 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.680 have impacted labor demand and supply. Yeah, of course they 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.160 got to throw that in there, even though it's not true. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.040 The data had a little effect on the US financial 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.520 markets et cetera, et cetera. Number of people receiving unemployment 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:58.279 benefits after an initial week of aid, a proxy for hiring, 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.719 increased thirty eight thousand to a seasonally adjusted one point 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.440 nine two three million people during the week and in 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:12.000 December thirteenth, so called continued claims covered the period during 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:17.920 which the government surveyed households to calculate December's unemployment rate. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:24.000 Continued claims fell marginally between the November and December survey weeks, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:28.360 again because of the government shutdown, the longest shutdown, actually 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.880 we just call it what it is, the Schumer shut 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.120 down forty three days, the longest shut down in the 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:38.080 history of this country. A lot of the numbers are skewed, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.800 and of course if it's going to be skewed, then 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.279 some of these pinheads are going to do it to 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:48.720 the negative of our economy, as opposed to maybe saying that, well, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.760 maybe we should lower that based on some of the estimates. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:52.680 I love this. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.040 The elevated continued claims aligned with the survey from the 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:02.120 Conference Board on Tuesday showing consumers perception perceptions perceptions of 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.320 the labor market deteriorated this month to levels last scene 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.080 in early twenty twenty one. The unemployment rate increased to 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.360 four year high of four point six percent in November. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.640 Now again I question that I don't think that number 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.880 is accurate, though part of the rise was because of 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:27.400 technical factors related to the forty three day government shutdown. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.840 Humhm, So rather than. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.800 Maybe going on the low side, they take it to 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.080 the high side. I can't wait till the next unemployment 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:42.200 numbers come out and then we will see probably unexpectedly 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.120 fell from the last time they took this analysis. Nancy 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:52.520 Vanden Houghton, lead US economists Oxford Economics, said, continued claims 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.440 remain at a level consistent with a slow pace of hiring, 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.920 but aren't sending a signal that hiring can. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.520 Do have gotten worse. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.800 So if hiring conditions haven't gotten worse, and people that 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.840 are unemployed are kind of rolling off, and you know 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.360 those numbers fluctuate from week to week, the moving average 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.640 hasn't gone up tremendously, how in the hell do they 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.920 come up with a high unemployment rate of four point 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:24.880 six It's just unbelievable. Let's see again another story, the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.280 initial jobs claims fall. Two hundred and fourteen thousand US 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:33.240 initial job as claims fell last week, way below expectations, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.199 suggesting that the labor market may not be as weak 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:37.880 as feared. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.320 So is it weak? 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.480 And the unemployment rate is up four point six percent 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.920 or is it not as weak as feared? So you know, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.040 a little food for thought there and interesting how that 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.360 is going to shake out. Let's talk about oil and 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.400 gas prices before the next segment, which Sam Collier will 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.400 be talking about the CDL program at Gateway Community College, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.200 because obviously CDL licenses and these CDL mills have been 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.200 in the news over the last several weeks. But let's 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.920 get to oil and gas prices real quick here. West 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.319 Tex center media crud currently is at fifty eight dollars 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.480 and two cents a barrel. That is up a dollar 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.880 twenty eight or two point twenty six percent. Brent krude 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.120 currently is a sixty one dollars eighty four cents a barrel, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.640 or up a dollar twenty or one point nine eight percent. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.000 Now just since the first since January of the twentieth, 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.120 when Trump took office, the West Tex c intermedia crude 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.240 is now twenty five percent eighteen dollars and eighty seven 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.120 cents below what it was in January, the twentieth twenty 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.160 five percent drop, and we're starting to see that reflected 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.840 in gasoline prices. Brent crude currently has is down eighteen 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.360 dollars and six cents or twenty three percent since January 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.959 the twentieth and looking at you know, when we talk 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.360 about gas prices, I always refer back to when we 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.000 were energy independent for the first time since nineteen forty 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.400 nine during twenty twenty. Current average gasoline price across the 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.400 board is two dollars and eighty three cents a gallon 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.360 this time this year in twenty twenty was at two 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.679 dollars and sixty seven cents a gallon. We are within 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.040 sixteen cents of that number back then. Diesel, on the 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.360 other hand, unfortunately, is at three dollars and fifty five 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.080 cents compared to three dollars and eight cents or forty 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.360 seven cents different. Coming up, we've got Sam Collier again 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.000 talking about the CDL program at Gateway Community College. I'm 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:41.880 Kevin Gordon, America's truck In Network seven hundred WLW. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:42.560 I need. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.920 This is the briefing repard on America's Trucking Network on 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.640 seven hundred WLW. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.640 The celebration of life is being planned for the late 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.760 Greg Biffel and also his family. Details will be shared 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.360 when available. Kyle Larson is ready to go back to 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.160 Daytona for the Rolex twenty four hours. 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And when we spoke a couple of years ago, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.520 this was getting bigger, and if I'm not mistaken, you've 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.120 has even grown even bigger now and you've had to 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:16.520 expand correct. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:17.320 That is correct. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.560 Yeah, So you know when we started this program, it 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.480 was again having conversations with employers because years and years 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.640 and years ago, a lot of big employers. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.960 Just hired a trainer and the trainer worked. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.960 With employees until they thought they were good enough, got 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.960 them and then they went and took their CDL driver 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:36.960 test training. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.600 Then the government came in and said. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.080 No, anybody that gets a license must go to a 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.480 certified school and you must do forty hours in class 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.200 and one hundred and twenty hours in truck between parking 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.040 and driving and that, you know, so our again, our 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.920 employers like, hey, we need help with this. So that's 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.520 when we stepped in started our program. Amazing program took 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.520 off one month. Know, somebody can come in and spend 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.720 forty one hundred and sixty hours with us. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.360 I can't count all of a sudden walk out with 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:07.520 the driver's license. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.520 You're an academic, exactly, that's what you're for. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.800 You can do that part. You're an academ exactly. Yeah, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.320 definitely not the math side. So but yeah, so you know, 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.240 then they can literally one month they're employed and driving 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:27.120 or at least training to drive. So that we this year, yeah, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.880 earlier this year we actually our day program got so 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.800 big that we actually started started a night program. And 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.600 they also to the added benefit that not everybody could 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.080 take a month off of work or have their employer 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.800 pay for them to take a month off of work. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.920 So the evening program runs for a month and a half. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.480 The class work is in a in. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.320 An online format, and then they come spend their time 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.720 with us and doing in truck training. And that's taken 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.080 off and continuing to expand. It's great and you know 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.400 the students that are coming through it. We were glad 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.360 to see them, you know, and again it's great success rate. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.280 We have a very high success rates on students passing 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.480 their test on the first or second pass through and 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.960 all that's great. Again, the employers are more than willing 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.000 to work with them. But yeah, then the government changed 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.440 again and said no mandated hours. So if you look now, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.480 it doesn't say you have to take one hundred and 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.960 sixty hours. It says you have to take ELTL Educational Art. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.760 I don't remember what it says for, but you have 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.640 to take a course, but there's no hours tied to it. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.320 And so yes to your point that you made. Now 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.800 we're seeing these pop ups. A lot of them are online, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:37.040 and I'm still not sure how totally online CDL driver 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.840 training works. That scares me Alan nearly more so actually 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.560 than an online welding course. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:48.400 Right online bomb Meg making that well, yeah, exactly, you. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.800 Know, and so why you're going wrong exactly? 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.320 You know, we're taking somebody out of a Honda Civic 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.800 and putting them in a semi with a fifty three 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.200 foot trailer fully loaded and saying it's the same take off. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.520 Yeah, and then. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.000 Companies are also doing you know, obviously automatic trucks are 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.399 becoming more and more of the standards, so that's fine. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.240 I don't really have a major issue with that. We 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.840 used to mandate everybody testing a manual, but now we've 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.200 got automatics and manuals. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.960 It's up to you. But then you know use there a. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.720 Lot of companies are using only empty flatbed truck. Well, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.479 the box being in the way when you're trying to 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.119 maneuver is one of the obstacles. If you've got an 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.280 empty flatbed, you can see. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:34.920 All your mirrors work. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.280 So and now all of a sudden, you know you're 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.680 really not giving them the basic skills. I'm not saying 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.800 we don't have flatbeds, because we do. You know that 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.480 sometimes you got that students that's struggling, Well, let's get 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.320 the eye hand coordination going, then we'll stick you back 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:49.080 on a box truck. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.280 But yeah, so it is very scary that, you know, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.480 a student can take an. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:00.840 Online class somehow past their their driving tests and now 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:01.640 they're driving. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.320 And I know, I'm. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.639 Not a trucking company, so I cannot speak directly this, 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:11.320 but when we started this program, we worked directly with 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.400 our employers and we borrowed a lot of what they 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.320 were already doing because a lot of these trucking companies 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.440 then had training after the fact. Okay, you got a 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.320 driver's license, but you've got one hundred and sixty hours 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.959 of training. So your next month or two depending is 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.840 going to be training. So first week all you do 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.360 is ride with somebody. Maybe the next week you get 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.000 to do highway, or maybe two weeks after then you 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.400 actually get to drive a little city, and then then 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:40.600 you start maneuvering in. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:41.600 The tight places. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.600 But all of those times there's two of you in 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.560 the truck, so your mentor or your trainer is watching over. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.760 If something goes batting, say stop get out now. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:57.680 I hear companies are saying, well. Literally had a student graduated. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.000 The day he graduated, he said, man, I got to 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.280 get out of here early. And I'm like, okay, what's up? 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.840 He said, I got to drive to Chicago tonight. I'm oh, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.760 you're starting your training? He said, no, I'm going alone. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.720 I'm like, Chicago is your first trip. He's like, yeah, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.720 I got to get out of here and get on 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.800 my truck. And I'm like, okay, I'm not getting on 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.680 any of those highways. Yeah, and that's not that's. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.040 Not a dig on the student. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.600 At all, but there's a dig on the company. 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.320 And then again get that bottom line, which is again, 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.800 putting somebody in an eighty thousand pound vehicle with little 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.160 to no training is not a prescription for success now, right, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.800 And you know, I guess the question is too of 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:39.240 is there a any kind of a national certification process 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.840 that we are, you know, a national accreditation service for 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.399 CDL training schools or should there what it was? 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:47.040 Oh? 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.119 There was again when they had one hundred and sixty hours. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.720 If you were now community and technical colleges, all we 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.520 had to do was prove that we were meeting the standards. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.280 But you could set up and there are other schools around, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.200 and there are some very good schools around that did 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:06.320 everything right, but you had to meet these standards. Those 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.680 standards got lifted when they lifted well, a lot. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:10.800 Of those standards got lifted when. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.679 They lifted the hours, because it's how do you judge 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:14.320 somebody now? 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.959 And as far as that, how far back was that 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.879 when they lifted the hours. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.800 Oh just recently in the last year. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.320 Yeah, that kind of seems contrary to some of the 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.399 stuff that they've been talking about in terms of some 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.280 of the more requirements and making sure that people are 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.919 fully trained. That seems to be counterintuitive to some of 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.760 the stuff they've been talking about. So this is something 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.000 that maybe they need to adjust and adjust back in 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:38.960 a hurry. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.160 Right, And I agree with you one understent. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.520 And like I said, I was very impressed when they 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.960 you know, even though there was already a trucking shortage, 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.919 they said, yes, we understand there's a trucking shortage, but 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.240 we need save truckers. And here's how we're going to 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.760 try and make sure that happens with the one hundred 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.000 and sixty hours. And then you know, any school that 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.520 signs up has to show us how. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:57.720 They're meeting those hours. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.720 But then, like I said, now if you you google, 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.040 it says no, you got to just take a training program. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:04.440 And I think I saw one. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:08.000 That said it was as short as sixteen hours. Yeah, okay, 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.439 And again, you know, well. 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.040 That creates a problem for you all in terms of 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.160 trying to do a quality program when you're up against 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.600 some of these fly by night places. And then probably 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.720 a good place for us to break and then come 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.720 back and talk a little bit more about this and 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.760 then the job placement program as far as this is concerned, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:32.040 speaking with Sam Collier, Diana Manufacturing and Transportation Technology Gateway 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.400 Community and Technical College. Actually in the form I guess 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.880 I should have mentioned in the Florence, Kentucky area, which 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.640 is one of the premier schools around. I'm Kevin Gordon, 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:57.320 America's Trucking Network. Seven hundred WLW seven hundred w l W. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.520