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Speaker 1: This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Loco aboard.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in on this sixth Day of Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is the sixth day of Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Period leading up to Christmas is not the twelve Days

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Speaker 3: of Christmas. That is the advent season, which is about

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Speaker 3: four weeks long. The twelve days of Christmas refers to

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Speaker 3: Christmas being the first day of Christmas and then going

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Speaker 3: for another twelve days up to January of the fifth

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Speaker 3: and then the Epiphany when by the Bible and by

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Speaker 3: tradition and history that the three Wise men came to

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Speaker 3: visit the baby Jesus in Bethlehem. So again we talk

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Speaker 3: about the twelve days of Christmas, and we talk about

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Speaker 3: that that in terms of the celebration of Christmas and

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Speaker 3: following the traditions as far as the Christian calendar is concerned,

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Speaker 3: and if you're familiar with the song, the sixth Day

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Speaker 3: of Christmas is six geese of laying see six geese

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Speaker 3: a laying which, unlike the spoon federal gurgitators in the

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Speaker 3: around here. We have been asbout as accurate on the

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Speaker 3: economy and predictions, and especially when you look at some

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Speaker 3: of the predictions coming out of some of these economists.

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Speaker 3: And let me remind you that the economists a definition

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Speaker 3: is an economist is an expert who will know tomorrow

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Speaker 3: why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today. And

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Speaker 3: so here on America's Truck a Network, we take a

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Speaker 3: look at behind the numbers. Look, we dig into the

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Speaker 3: numbers and come up with the facts, and we have

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Speaker 3: been right a lot more than the spoon federal regurgitators

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Speaker 3: in the mainstream media and some of these predictions that

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Speaker 3: we've been seeing from these so called experts in the economy.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about last week right before actually

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Speaker 3: the day before Christmas, because Christmas fell on a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Usually that's when the initial job as claims are reported,

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Speaker 3: and because obviously Christmas they were going to be closed,

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Speaker 3: so they announced those the day before Christmas on that Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: But looking at the initial job as claims. Before we

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Speaker 3: get to that, I want to mention that America's Truck

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Speaker 3: Initial jobless claims last week again the economists. See what

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Speaker 3: the economists had to say looking at some of the

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Speaker 3: out to me. US initial job as claims fall to

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Speaker 3: two d and twelve two hundred and fourteen thousand, which

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Speaker 3: is pretty good. Then another one from Reuters US weekly

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Speaker 3: jobless claims fall, but more people collecting unemployment checks.

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Speaker 4: So let's dig into this.

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Speaker 3: Number of Americans filing for new applications for jobless claims

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Speaker 3: unexpectedly fell last week.

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Speaker 4: Unexpected.

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Speaker 3: How many times have we heard unexpectedly when it's basically

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Speaker 3: good news having to do with the economy consistent with

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Speaker 3: the low level of layoffs. But the unemployment rate likely

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Speaker 3: remained high in December amid sluggish hiring. We'll get into

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Speaker 3: that in a moment. Initial claims for state unemployment benefits

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Speaker 3: dropped to a second for second straight week, declining by

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Speaker 3: ten thousand to a seasonally adjusted two hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 3: thousand for the week end of December twentieth, the Labor

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Speaker 3: Department set on Wednesday. Economists polled by wool Reuters had

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Speaker 4: They were off by five percent.

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Speaker 3: Now, in accounting terminology, that is considered a material difference.

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Speaker 3: Even though it's only a five percent difference, it's still material.

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Speaker 3: The Labor Department published the report a day early because

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Speaker 3: of the Christmas holiday. Part of the surprise decline in

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Speaker 3: applications could reflect the challenges adjusting the data for seasonal

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Speaker 3: fluctuations around the year and in the holidays season, of course,

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Speaker 3: you know, adjusting the numbers. Let's not forget that the

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Speaker 3: unemployment number that they reported had jumped from four point

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Speaker 3: four percent up to four point six percent. You think

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Speaker 4: I believe so.

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Speaker 3: Now, this fellow by the name of Christopher Rupke, chief

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Speaker 3: economist at Forward Bonds. Usually he comes up with some

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Speaker 3: is kind of an interesting comment. From him. Unless companies

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Speaker 3: actually fire workers, the economy will continue to move forward

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Speaker 3: at a moderate pace. Now, if the economy is moving

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Speaker 3: unemployment level is not going up. So again a little

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Speaker 3: rate that we're hearing isn't accurate. Labor department remains locked

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Speaker 3: in what economists called the policymakers described as a no hire,

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Speaker 3: no fire mode. We've talked about that on this program

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Speaker 3: program numerous times for several months. Though the economy remains resilient,

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Speaker 3: at that four point three percent clip, the labor department.

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Speaker 4: Has almost almost stalled.

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Speaker 3: Economists said President Donald Trump's import tariffs and immigration crackdown

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Speaker 3: got to throw that in there, even though it's not true.

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Speaker 3: The data had a little effect on the US financial

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Speaker 3: markets et cetera, et cetera. Number of people receiving unemployment

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Speaker 3: benefits after an initial week of aid, a proxy for hiring,

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Speaker 3: nine two three million people during the week and in

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Speaker 3: December thirteenth, so called continued claims covered the period during

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Speaker 3: which the government surveyed households to calculate December's unemployment rate.

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Speaker 3: Continued claims fell marginally between the November and December survey weeks,

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Speaker 3: again because of the government shutdown, the longest shutdown, actually

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Speaker 3: we just call it what it is, the Schumer shut

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Speaker 3: down forty three days, the longest shut down in the

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Speaker 3: history of this country. A lot of the numbers are skewed,

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Speaker 3: and of course if it's going to be skewed, then

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Speaker 3: some of these pinheads are going to do it to

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Speaker 3: the negative of our economy, as opposed to maybe saying that, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe we should lower that based on some of the estimates.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 3: The elevated continued claims aligned with the survey from the

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Speaker 3: Conference Board on Tuesday showing consumers perception perceptions perceptions of

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Speaker 3: the labor market deteriorated this month to levels last scene

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Speaker 3: four year high of four point six percent in November.

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Speaker 3: Now again I question that I don't think that number

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Speaker 4: Humhm, So rather than.

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Speaker 3: Maybe going on the low side, they take it to

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Speaker 3: the high side. I can't wait till the next unemployment

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Speaker 3: numbers come out and then we will see probably unexpectedly

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Speaker 3: fell from the last time they took this analysis. Nancy

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Speaker 3: Vanden Houghton, lead US economists Oxford Economics, said, continued claims

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Speaker 4: Do have gotten worse.

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Speaker 3: So if hiring conditions haven't gotten worse, and people that

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Speaker 3: those numbers fluctuate from week to week, the moving average

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Speaker 3: hasn't gone up tremendously, how in the hell do they

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Speaker 3: six It's just unbelievable. Let's see again another story, the

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Speaker 3: initial jobs claims fall. Two hundred and fourteen thousand US

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Speaker 3: initial job as claims fell last week, way below expectations,

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Speaker 3: suggesting that the labor market may not be as weak

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Speaker 4: So is it weak?

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Speaker 3: And the unemployment rate is up four point six percent

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Speaker 3: be talking about the CDL program at Gateway Community College,

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Speaker 3: Now just since the first since January of the twentieth,

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Speaker 3: I'm Kevin Gordon, America Destructive Network seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 7: It's up to you. But then you know use there a.

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Speaker 9: sometimes you got that students that's struggling, Well, let's get

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Speaker 7: Not a dig on the student.

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Speaker 9: They lifted the hours, because it's how do you judge

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Speaker 9: It is and we're seeing it.

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Speaker 7: You know, where are our enrollments down slightly?

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Speaker 9: Fortunately, the one thing we did have was a good

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Speaker 9: So that our reputation fortunately is still holding strong. And

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Speaker 9: short the time for them, it's just fantastical.

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Speaker 3: And then people need to be aware of because again

444
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Speaker 3: this isn't You're not an organization that says, you know what,

445
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Speaker 3: we're going to nail these people for four weeks of

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Speaker 3: tuition or whatever the thing is, and we're making no

447
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Speaker 3: exceptions whatsoever. But what you are and the ability of

448
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Speaker 3: a school like yours is to tailor something to somebody's

449
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Speaker 3: already acquired skills. That's almost like you hear some of

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Speaker 3: these colleges in university saying, well, we'll give you credit

451
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Speaker 3: for your life skills, and that is along the lines here, correct,

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Speaker 3: And you know we do that as well. Obviously with

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Speaker 3: cd OUT, it's you got to prove it. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to just take your word that you've been driving

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Speaker 3: since you were twelve, don't. I can't come in there

456
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Speaker 3: and say, oh, yeah, I know all this stuff and

457
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Speaker 3: you just give me a certificate.

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Speaker 7: Huh.

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Speaker 9: You can say all that and then we'll put you

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Speaker 9: in a truck and thenfore we're done laughing at you.

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Speaker 7: Then we'll say, no, you need.

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Speaker 9: To spend a little more time with us, because again,

463
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Speaker 9: we're not going to take it.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: It's just like even with life skills, credit for prior learning,

466
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Speaker 9: all those type of things, which are very big buzzwords,

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Speaker 9: you know, and Gateway does that as well, because yes,

468
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Speaker 9: why should I make you If you've been doing something

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Speaker 9: for ten years in the industry, why should I make

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Speaker 9: you do it again?

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Speaker 7: Just prove it to me.

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Speaker 9: However, we're going to set up to prove it and

473
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Speaker 9: we'll move on.

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Speaker 7: With the trucking industry. It's the same thing, you know.

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Speaker 9: Okay, now that they've backed off and I don't have

476
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Speaker 9: to justify and if I'm audited, I don't have to say,

477
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Speaker 9: here's one hundred and sixty hours.

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Speaker 7: Yeah this, and it's not a lot.

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Speaker 9: It's not like, hey, I got a new class of

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Speaker 9: ten students and seven of them tested out.

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Speaker 7: That's not the case. In most cases. It may be

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Speaker 7: one per every two or three classes. But if that

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Speaker 7: person comes in.

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Speaker 4: How large are your classes?

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you have capacity still or you pretty

486
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Speaker 3: much full up? Because the last time I think we talked,

487
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Speaker 3: you had pretty much full and then you had to

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Speaker 3: go to maybe some extra classes through the year or

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, right, so.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean actually again to your point, we've got

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Speaker 9: seats right now now we take you know, are we

493
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Speaker 9: try and keep We try and start a new class

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Speaker 9: every two weeks at six students. That way, you know,

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Speaker 9: I've got we've got three or four trainers out on

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Speaker 9: the range. We can put three students in a sleeper

497
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Speaker 9: cab with a trainer. They can go out on the

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Speaker 9: road and rotate time.

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Speaker 7: So they don't have to come all the way.

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Speaker 9: If you do one on one, then you got to

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Speaker 9: come back to the school every time or a second yes,

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Speaker 9: so yeah, now the nightcloud, yes we have two for

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Speaker 9: the night class.

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Speaker 3: I believe you have six students during the day and

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Speaker 3: how many at night or is that we.

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Speaker 7: Run six at night truck.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and now now at night we run we only

508
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Speaker 9: run one class about every month and.

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Speaker 7: A half because we don't want to back up. We

510
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Speaker 7: just don't have the instructor manpower.

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Speaker 9: But during the during the day, we started a new club,

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Speaker 9: We started a new class at the.

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Speaker 7: Beginning of the month.

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Speaker 9: In the middle of the month, so at any one

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Speaker 9: time there could be up to twelve.

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Speaker 7: Students out on the range.

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Speaker 9: For several weeks, which is why we have to have

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Speaker 9: the extra manpower by day and I don't have to

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Speaker 9: have it by night, because it doesn't make sense for

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Speaker 9: students to just be standing there in the middle of

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Speaker 9: the range and there's no trucks to play in.

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Speaker 7: All the trucks are out on the road and you're

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Speaker 7: standing in the middle of a parking lot, going, well,

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Speaker 7: this is fun.

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Speaker 9: And obviously they're rotating because it depends on where your

526
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Speaker 9: skill level is. Some people, you know, when you go test,

527
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Speaker 9: you've got to do pre trip and in cab before

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Speaker 9: you're allowed to maneuver, and then once you maneuver, before

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Speaker 9: you can drive.

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Speaker 7: If you fail anywhere on the line, you're stopped. So we.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's out doing pre trip and then as people, some

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Speaker 9: people get it real quick, you know, they're good book

533
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Speaker 9: learners and they pick up the process real quick.

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Speaker 7: Then they're moving on to maneuvers while the.

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Speaker 9: Other people are still practicing pre trip, and then we

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Speaker 9: start start rotating people around because even within that month,

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Speaker 9: if you did pre trip three weeks ago before you test.

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Speaker 7: You remember it all.

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Speaker 9: So we want to make sure that you're keeping that

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Speaker 9: fresh in your brain. So the structors do a great

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Speaker 9: job of rotating around and also making.

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Speaker 7: Sure that they're staying interest because pre trips are boring.

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Speaker 7: Let's be honest. I'm sitting and I'm sitting in a

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Speaker 7: truck pointing.

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Speaker 9: Out that my mirrors are are directly uh you know,

546
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Speaker 9: are in line, and that my there's not too much rust,

547
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 9: that my springs are good, and my tire pressure is good.

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Speaker 7: And well, that's boring.

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Speaker 3: That's all boring, Sam, And of course we're speaking with

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Speaker 3: Sam Collier and Dana Manufacturing Transportation Technology, Great Weight Community

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Speaker 3: and Technical College.

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Speaker 4: That's all boring. But you know, if you don't and

553
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: you get out on the road and.

554
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: That stuff fails, it's like, you know, you got to well,

555
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: you almost got to be right every time because it

556
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: only takes one screw up and you caused yourself a

557
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Speaker 3: lot of headaches and a lot of potential accidents out

558
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Speaker 3: on the highways. So it's boring, but it's necessary as

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Speaker 3: part of the safety precautions.

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Speaker 7: So, oh, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 9: But if I if I come in every day for

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Speaker 9: a month and all I do is that I'm going

563
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Speaker 9: to lose interest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you got to keep you going, So hey, you

565
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Speaker 7: know what, do this a couple.

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Speaker 9: Of times today, and then jump in that truck over

567
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Speaker 9: there and start trying to straight back up and parallel

568
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Speaker 9: back up, you know, and then come back because you're

569
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Speaker 9: still struggling with this and you need to come back

570
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Speaker 9: after lunch, and let's go through this a few more times,

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Speaker 9: you know, And because again, if you can't do the

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Speaker 9: pre trip, you're never going to do anything else. You

573
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Speaker 9: will never get to test. It's an ongoing battle. And

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Speaker 9: again it's interesting because you know, a semi is a

575
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Speaker 9: beast that you don't think about until you sit in one.

576
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 9: You know, it's a humongous vehicle with a as you mentioned,

577
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Speaker 9: you know, eighty thousand pounds plus of weight in it.

578
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 9: People don't respect that at all. I don't think people

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Speaker 9: truly on the road truly understand.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, people need to take a physics class and understand that.

582
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Speaker 9: You know, objects and motion tend to stay in motion.

583
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Speaker 9: Well that weight and speed exponentially change.

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Speaker 7: All of that.

585
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Speaker 9: So you know, a semi semi going sixty stopping distance

586
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 9: is much larger than your on to civic and I

587
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 9: keep picking on Honda civics why you.

588
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Speaker 7: Know, but because the Honda Civic. It's just gone.

589
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 9: But you know, I and as I'm driving on the highway,

591
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Speaker 9: I you know, I live in Ohio, I work in Kentucky,

592
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Speaker 9: so I'm on Ohigoway every day. And I watched these

593
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Speaker 9: people going down to the cut in the hill cutting.

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Speaker 3: Off SEMIS and I'm going, you have a death wish

595
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: on Death Hill exactly.

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Speaker 7: I'm like you, First of all, have you read the

597
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Speaker 7: statistics out here? This is not a great place to

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Speaker 7: be doing this.

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Speaker 9: And then you take into account, Okay, how long has

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Speaker 9: this guy been driving?

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Speaker 7: You know, what are his reaction times?

602
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Speaker 9: You know, a thirty years, a guy with thirty years,

603
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Speaker 9: his reaction time to that car getting in front of

604
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Speaker 9: him is quick.

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Speaker 7: It's it's literally automatic. It's muscle memory.

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Speaker 9: That new driver that's going still thinking every step of

607
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Speaker 9: the process. There may be a pause before he hits

608
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Speaker 9: the brake. And now we've got automatic, so we don't

609
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Speaker 9: have down shifting, so you don't have that control anymore.

610
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Speaker 9: So you know, it's and we're seeing it. There are

611
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Speaker 9: more wrecks, It's that simple. Statistically, we're seeing a lot

612
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Speaker 9: more of them. And I mean you have to blame

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Speaker 9: it on a lot of things, and then to your point,

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Speaker 9: you know, pre trip safety.

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Speaker 3: Exactly well and the time that we've got left. One

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Speaker 3: of the cool things about your Gateway is the fact

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Speaker 3: that job placement and working with companies to get these

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Speaker 3: people not only educated but get into a company is

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Speaker 3: there as well.

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Speaker 7: Correct, That is correct?

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Speaker 9: So yes, we you know, obviously when we first started

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Speaker 9: this program, we had we went to a group of

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Speaker 9: trucker and companies.

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Speaker 7: And said, what does this look like?

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Speaker 9: I am you know again, I'm a mechanic teacher.

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Speaker 7: I was a mechanic teacher. I understand that. But what

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Speaker 7: does a program like this look like?

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Speaker 9: And then you know, what is the process on the

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Speaker 9: backside and what is the employment process? So you know,

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Speaker 9: we companies from.

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Speaker 3: We can get you educated, hired all well within about

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Speaker 3: a four or five week period of time. So if

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Speaker 3: anybody's interested in these programs, Sam, how can they get

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Speaker 3: in contact with you?

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Speaker 9: So reach out to our website Gateway dot A, C,

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Speaker 9: T C, S, dot E, or just google Gateway Community

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Speaker 9: and Texico College Northern Kentucky and just take a look

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Speaker 9: on our website. If you're looking at CDL club, type

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Speaker 9: in CDL in the top right corner or if you're

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Speaker 9: just looking go around, Please feel free to look around.

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Speaker 7: You'll find my contact information in there if you want to.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic, Sam.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate all your time today, and I certainly appreciate

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Speaker 3: all the best to you. Let's get together a little

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Speaker 3: bit more than just once every couple of years. Let's

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Speaker 3: do this on a fairly regular basis. And if you

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Speaker 3: have some concerns and some things that you'd like to

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Speaker 3: get out there, let me know and we'll talk about them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, sounds good, Sam, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Sam Collier, Dean of Manufacturing and Transportation Technology, Gateway Community

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Speaker 5: No word in English language is less convincing than probably.

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Speaker 7: Are you sure we.

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Speaker 4: Should get matching tattoos on our first date?

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Speaker 9: Sure?

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Speaker 5: We'll probably stay together. Probably, it's been twenty three minutes

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Speaker 5: since I ate. I can probably swim.

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Speaker 7: You should wait thirty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, tell me what to do?

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Speaker 7: Can it ball?

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Speaker 5: Cramp?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I have a cramp. I can probably hit the green

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Speaker 4: from here. Probably? Can I get a Mulligan.

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Speaker 7: Ready to go? Hey?

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Speaker 4: Are you sure you're okay to drive?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sober. Yeah, I'm probably okay.

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Speaker 5: Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking

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Speaker 5: and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab, a car,

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Speaker 11: Hey, Joe, I thought you were retired.

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Speaker 4: Living on a fixed income is tough. So here I

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Speaker 4: am an essential work I know.

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Speaker 11: I mean food prices are going up every day. Thank

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Speaker 11: goodness for benefits. Checkup dot org benefits what benefits? Checkup

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Speaker 11: dot org it's a free website where people over sixty

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Speaker 11: can find help to pay for food, medicine, even utilities.

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Speaker 11: I got twelve hundred a year in benefits. Maybe it

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Speaker 11: can help you.

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Speaker 4: Everybody buckle up, Buckle up, Buckle up to the store.

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Speaker 4: Everybody buckle up.

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Speaker 6: Al goes on in the car, but you're in control.

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Speaker 6: So only move when you hear the click that says

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Speaker 6: they're buckled it. Never give up until they buckle up.

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Speaker 6: A message from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and

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Speaker 6: the App Council.

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Speaker 9: Hey Cincinnati its former Bengal and Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 9: Famer Anthony Munos into the LW.

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Speaker 4: I'm Kevin Gordon.

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Speaker 3: I want to thank Sam Callier for joining us again

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Speaker 3: so we could talk about the CDL licensing program. And

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Speaker 3: if you missed that segment, or if you missed our

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Speaker 3: segment yesterday on Christmas Day when we talked about a

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Speaker 3: lot of other things and talking about the twelve Days

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Speaker 3: of Christmas and so on, just hit up that iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: app brought to you by our friends at Rush Truck Centers.

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Speaker 3: Durable goods orders came in the other day and talk

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Speaker 3: about a mixed back and conflicting stories, if you will,

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Speaker 3: Let's just go through it here. Durable goods orders swung

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Speaker 3: to a decline in October. Demand for US durable goods

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Speaker 3: fell in October, and the decrease was steeper than expected.

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Speaker 4: According to the delayed.

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Speaker 3: Data published by the Commerce Department on Tuesday, total orders

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Speaker 3: for durable goods, which comprise goods meant to last three

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Speaker 3: or more years, declined two point two percent in October,

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Speaker 3: compared with a point seven percent climb in September and

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Speaker 3: a three percent increase in August. The consensus had called

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Speaker 3: for total orders to be one point two percent. Now,

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Speaker 3: in another story they talk about that the consensus was

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Speaker 3: that they expected a one point five percent lower. So

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Speaker 3: it kind of conflicting there. But it gets even worse

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Speaker 3: than gets even more cloudier after that. Let's see, the

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Speaker 3: transportation equipment drove the decline, falling six point five percent.

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Speaker 3: Excluding transportation, new orders ticked up point two percent according

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Speaker 3: to the Commerce Department.

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Speaker 4: Now, when they.

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Speaker 3: Talk in terms of transportation or goods, they are basically

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Speaker 3: talking in terms of the transportation orders falling by six

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Speaker 3: point five percent, pulled lower by a twenty point one

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Speaker 3: percent drop in civilian aircraft orders. The largest American aircraft

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Speaker 3: maker reported one hundred and sixty four new orders for

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Speaker 3: planes in November, boosted by sixty five new orders major

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Speaker 3: international customer at the Dubai Air Show.

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Speaker 4: So again that factors in there.

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Speaker 3: Orders for motor vehicles and parts posted a tepid point

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Speaker 3: one percent increase after rising point six percent or more

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Speaker 3: in the prior five months. The expiration of the federal

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Speaker 3: tax credits for electric vehicles at the end of September

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Speaker 3: sapped vehicle man as we entered into the third quarter

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Speaker 3: one of Detroit. And it's interesting that they don't mention

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Speaker 3: it in here. This is a story, by the way,

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Speaker 3: by KPMG company. They are a one of the big

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Speaker 3: four accounting firms international company, and.

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Speaker 4: So they put this story together.

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Speaker 3: But I found it interesting that they didn't mention this company,

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Speaker 3: and I by name, one of Detroit's big three automakers

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Speaker 3: recently pulled the plug on the electric version of its

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Speaker 3: full sized pickup truck. And of course we all know

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Speaker 3: that that was forward with their F one fifty. What

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Speaker 3: do they call it lightning, I believe is what it

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Speaker 3: was called. The gas version is the best selling vehicle,

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Speaker 3: but the EV version consistently fell short of sales targets.

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Speaker 3: They get into this all right. Affordability continues to be

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Speaker 3: the major concern for shoppers, as the average transaction price

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Speaker 3: of a new vehicle recently crossed the fifty thousand dollars mark.

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Speaker 3: According to the Federal Reserve enacted its third interest rate

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Speaker 3: cut since September. We belie leave now this again their opinion.

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Speaker 3: We believe the Fed will more be more reluctant to

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Speaker 3: cut interest rates in the first half of twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six due to elevated inflation. Now elevated inflation we covered

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Speaker 3: the other day that slipped into one of the stories

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Speaker 3: was actually some journalistic integrity or somebody actually committed journalism

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Speaker 3: where they talked about that the two point seven percent

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Speaker 3: elevated interest or inflation rate has been with us for

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Speaker 3: half a decade, half a decade, five years. So again

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Speaker 3: I have to ask the question if we are talking

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Speaker 3: about or if the Democrats now are talking about affordability,

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Speaker 3: and the big push is well, we need to get

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Speaker 3: more affordable stuff, and the Trump administration isn't moving fast enough. Well,

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Speaker 3: they had four years during the Biden administration, where the

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Speaker 3: inflation rate that they took over was around one point

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Speaker 3: four percent quickly rose up above two percent on its

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Speaker 3: way to three percent, to where it hit a high

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Speaker 3: of nine and a half percent in one month in

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Speaker 3: June of twenty twenty two, and so so much. You know,

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Speaker 3: again the liberal mentality that you know, we want to

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Speaker 3: avoid the pass know, move on dot org type of thing,

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Speaker 3: So they want us to forget about what happened then,

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Speaker 3: But they will tell you they have the solutions now

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Speaker 3: to correct the inflation problem you had four years, folks.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, you had very little.

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Speaker 3: Inflation in the first year or going into the first year,

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Speaker 3: and you let it get out of control. So I

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Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to be one that's going to

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Speaker 3: jump on the bandwagon and say that you have any

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Speaker 3: of the solutions. As a matter of fact, I just say,

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Speaker 3: you know, sit this one out, folks. But again, I

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Speaker 3: how this is thrown in there where you know, inflation

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Speaker 3: is elevated, elevated compared to what and where is it heading.

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Speaker 3: It's heading in the right direction, closer to two percent, certainly,

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Speaker 3: not any closer to that nine percent that we saw

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Speaker 3: back in June.

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Speaker 4: Of twenty twenty two. So again they talk.

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Speaker 3: About affordability, well, affordability also with rising wages and so on.

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Speaker 3: And as we talked about, I believe it was yesterday,

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Speaker 3: talked a little bit about how and when we were

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Speaker 3: talking about the consumer or that Christmas Price index, how

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Speaker 3: a lot of the factors in that are service related

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Speaker 3: and because of the elevated amounts of service income or

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Speaker 3: service wages, why that survey was actually running above what

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Speaker 3: the consumer price index. As we mentioned yesterday, the consumer

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Speaker 3: price index, and the cool little thing that PNC Bank

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Speaker 3: puts out the Christmas Price Index of the twelve days

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Speaker 3: of Christmas and only gifts, and we described that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That usually mirrors the economy and mirrors what the inflation

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Speaker 3: rate is, but is actually higher due to the higher

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Speaker 3: cost of services, which again is not ter.

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Speaker 4: Driven.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting to take a look at it from

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Speaker 3: that perspective. But nobody's talking about and again I'm not

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Speaker 3: talking I'm not begrudging people getting pay increases, but if

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Speaker 3: that's what's adding to the inflation, then be honest about it.

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Speaker 3: Don't try to change the subject, don't try to downplay

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Speaker 3: the economy.

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Speaker 4: Be truthful about it.

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Speaker 3: Speak the truth about what's going on in the economy.

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Speaker 3: If the prices are if most consumer prices are going down,

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Speaker 3: talk about that. But if the wages are going up

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Speaker 3: and adding to the inflation, talk about that as well. Again,

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Speaker 3: when you have rising in when you have rising prices

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Speaker 3: or rising wages, that's going to drive inflation. But people

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Speaker 3: are going to be able to afford things a little

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Speaker 3: bit more if they're getting their pay increase. October report

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Speaker 3: showed mixed results in among industries. Then they go in

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Speaker 3: to details about computers and electrical equipment and so on,

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Speaker 3: various and sundry other things. But it's kind of interesting

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Speaker 3: digging through the numbers. Now way at the bottom. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is probably close to a five hundred word story

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Speaker 3: that stretches over two pages.

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Speaker 4: Going all the way down to the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Here says the October durable goods orders was stronger than

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Speaker 3: it appeared at first. Blush core orders suggest that the

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Speaker 3: investment may be picking up after a slowdown during the summer.

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Speaker 3: Private sector sources in November and December suggests that manufacturing

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Speaker 3: activity firmed.

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Speaker 4: In the final quarter of the year.

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Speaker 3: Preliminary December manufacturing PMI that' said Purchasing Managers Index from

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Speaker 3: S and P Global was reported at fifty one point

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Speaker 3: eight percent, down slightly from fifty two point two in November.

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Speaker 3: Recent rate cuts by the Federal Reserve and resumption of

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent bonus depreciation with offsets. Now that's at

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Speaker 3: Section one seventy nine, which allows companies to deduct up

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Speaker 3: to one point two five million dollars of investments in

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Speaker 3: new equipment. You can expense that. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: write that off over a five year period of time.

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Speaker 3: You can actually expense that all in one year, which

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Speaker 3: makes kind of offset what the interest rate you're going

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Speaker 3: to have to pay if you're investing in that or

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Speaker 3: you're having to borrow money on that. If you can

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Speaker 3: write that all off in one year, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So again, what they're talking about year in activity, it'll

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Speaker 3: be interesting to see how that pans out. Well, folks,

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Speaker 3: that does it for us. We're getting up close to

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Speaker 3: the top of the hour. Stay tuned for Red Eye

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Speaker 3: Radio at the top of the hour. I'm Kevin Gordon,

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Speaker 3: America's Trucking Network seven hundred WLW