1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZO. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Al Griffin. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: As we move it into ten o'clock hour, there's some 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 3: other sports going on tonight, but we're going to talk 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: about a different sport, a sport that has come on 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 3: the American scene with a great deal of vigor in 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: the last few years, and it's pickleball, and specifically we're 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: going to talk about a professional pickleball league, a senior 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: professional pickleball league, with a professional pickleball team in Boston 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 3: called the Boston Dragons. And we're delighted to be owned by, 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: to be joined by not only one of the players 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: on the Boston Dragons, but the owner of the Boston 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: Dragons senior pickleball team, Boston based team, Michael to Michael, 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: welcome back Tonight's Eide. We did a brief interview with 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: you within the last week or two, but I wanted 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: to give people an opportunity tonight to talk with you 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: about the sport and about what you hope you will 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: be able to bring to this sport through through its 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: identification with Boston. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: Good evening, sir, how are you tonight? 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: How are you great? 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: You know, as I talked with you this afternoon. 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: I came to realize you have had a very interesting 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: career path yea, and I want you to explain it 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: a little bit. You have been a certified financial planner. 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: That's really your professional career. But in addition to that, 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: you now have developed a following and a resume as 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: an actor in several movies and actually are becoming someone 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: who can make a living being an actor. But you're 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: also a pickleball player, and you decided that it would 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: be great to own a Boston pickleball team, which you 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: now own. You're a player on the team as well. 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: You are a renaissance man. Michael toe Well, I am. 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: I am fifty so over all over in fifty. So 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: it's been a lot career and. 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: I tell you have accomplished quite a bit. 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about you start off as a financial planner, 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: which you know, you certified financial planner. Are you still 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: doing that or have you put that on the back burner? 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: Tell us, tell us a little bit about yourself, and 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: then I want to get to the to the story 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: at hand, which is the birth of a new league 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: and the birth of a team. 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: And who knows where this is going to go. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: Sure, yes, so I was. I was a stock broker 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: with UBSP level for many years and opened up my 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: own practice and Brookline. I still have it now a 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: CFP and have a kind of a botique firm. 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 5: But you know, it's I've been doing that for since 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: I was. 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: Twenty, you know, twenty one, twenty two. I started right 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: out of college, and I've been in this career for 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: thirty years. Probably about twenty years ago when the when 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: movies started coming into Boston, you know, with the Maschustt 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: tax credit. Sure, you know, big moves started to come 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: in and I asked to do to be an extra 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: in the movie that are part of Martin Scorsese, Matt Damon, 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: Leon and I DiCaprio, Jack Nicholas, and it was, you know, 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: it was so exciting and I used to act as 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: a kid, and so I'm like, so all these movies 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: started coming in, and it started with extra work. But 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: then you know, I slowly started getting in and moving in, 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: getting to you know, a few like a few lines 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: on these like you know, these movies, and but then 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: it started getting bigger and bigger, and you know, I 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: had my practice going and I've had it, you know, 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: for a long time, so that was kind of always going. 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: But I so I'm like, all right, I wanted to 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: fill this other side of me that I've wanted to 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: do come back to since I did it as a kid. 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: So I started to go into New York and started 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: to make these drives and to you know, Boston out 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: in New York. While you know, I would take client 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: calls and you know, during the during the drive down 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: with my assistant kind of patching them in, but I 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: would kind of do kind of do the act something 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: and trying to you know, just do it as a 78 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: hobby for fun. Whenever I do something, and maybe you 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: can kind of tell already, but when I focus in 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: on something, I go in pretty full and it doesn't 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: necessarily have to be with some end goal. But I 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: just like when I'm passionate about something, I love it 83 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: and I just kind of jump right in. And so 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, this actually is great, but I 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: want to do it as best I can. So I 86 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: started getting known in New York and started getting bigger 87 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: roles in New York and bigger shows and you know, 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: the Law and Orders and the Royal Pains and the 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: mcgivers and the you know, Daredevil's and all those kinds 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: of things, and then but COVID hit. And when COVID hit, 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 4: it changed the audition style. So instead of used to 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: have to go into a casting office and you know, 93 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: go in and audition there. But you know, most of 94 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: the work is in LA, and then the second hub 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: is New York. But I would get things in New York, 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 4: but I couldn't get into LA until COVID hit, and 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: it changed the audition process. Instead of going into an office, 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: you would actually have to do auditions through video, and 99 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: that opened it up to people all over the country. 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: And really it's focused in on who was the best 101 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: actor for the job rather than who lived ten minutes 102 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 4: from the LA office. And that what kind of brought 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: me to some of my large roles as a serious 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: regular a show called City on Fire on Apple TV, 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: and I was on Landman and Linus, the Taylor Sheridan shows. 106 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: You know, looking at your list of credits, and it's 107 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: a big list. You started in two thousand and seven, 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: You've worked literally every year with a variety of shows, 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: and I'm impressed. I had not looked at this list 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: before today, and this you've you're doing well. I mean 111 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: you got this going here. I mean you've it looks 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: like forty seven different productions, which that's pretty good. 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, thank you, thank you. 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: I guess I know how difficult it is. I had 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 3: one role in a movie called Reversal of Fortune, and 116 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 3: no one else has ever come back to me looking 117 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: for me to make a and I haven't gone and auditioned. 118 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: I do with this thing here on radio, and I 119 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: used to be in TV, so I'm kind of a 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: similar spirit with you in terms of I like adventure 121 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: and all of that, and now your big adventure is pickleball. 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: How long have you been playing pickleball? And give me 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: a quick biography on pickleball. How long has it been around? 124 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: I think you said to me it's been around longer 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: than I realized. 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and actually it started the nineteen sixties. I think 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: it was nineteen sixty five, so I just had its 128 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: sixty year anniversary of the founder of pickleball. However, though, 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: it was one of those sports that really got popular 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: also through right at COVID, so people started, you know, 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: doing kind of games and you know, kind of in 132 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: their driveways. When you know, people can really do stuff, 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: you know of things that were you know, contact, and 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: so pickleball started really picking up, and it is now 135 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: the fastest growing sport in the country. It's one of 136 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: the fastest growing sports, one or two fast growing sports 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: in the world. And I'm actually now right now calling 138 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: from a hotel in for Florida at the Pickleball World 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: Cup where there's seventy two countries open and the Senior Division, 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: which is fifty plus that are competing. It's I mean, 141 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: there are thousands of literally thousands of people here and 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: it was it's crazy. I just kind of came in. 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: We played, We played tomorrow and Sunday. But the sport 144 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: has gone huge. 145 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: When you say we. 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Play, are you down there playing with a partner or 147 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: are you down there in your capacity as a member 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: of the Boston Dragons. 149 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Is the Dragons in this competition? 150 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: I know? So this is all different countries coming into play. 151 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: I'm actually representing. I'm on Team China. I'm Chinese American 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: off at Generation and I got asked to play, and 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: so I am. I am playing with you know, with 154 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: with Team China, with a lot of my friends all 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: over We're all in a lot of these other teams, 156 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: and so it's it's a lot of fun. 157 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: Okay, well we haven't even touched on the Boston Dragons, 158 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: so let me take a break. When we got back, 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: I want to talk about the Dragons. I want to 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: talk about where they where they have come. You know 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: when I say where are you at this point in 162 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: that the team I know exists, there's a roster, there's 163 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: a website. I've looked at it. That's very impressive. But 164 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: then the question, of course is going to be where 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: is this taking you? And where where will we be 166 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: three or four or five away? Do you hope to 167 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: be three or four or five years from now with 168 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: Seeingior Pickleball, the Boston Dragons, You have sponsors. I mean, 169 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: this is the real deal. This is not some fly 170 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: by night operation. And I think we have learned. Look, 171 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: I know that I myself a couple of years ago 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: realized that there were corn hole competitions on these these 173 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: uh these networks, and I mean that just seems to 174 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: be a total appetite for genuine, you know, live competitions, 175 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: not just the World Series, just just not the NFL 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: or the NHL or the NBA, but other competitions. And 177 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: I think that's what you're. Uh, You're you're, you're, you're 178 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: really getting getting into here, and that's where I think 179 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: you may end up going, but I want to hear 180 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: it from you. I'm looking where I think you should go, 181 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: but you've got to tell me what's possible. 182 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: My guest is Michael Toe. He's the owner of the 183 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: Boston Dragons. 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: Obviously an interesting guy, has quite a resume as an actor, 185 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: also happens to be a certified financial planner, and in 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: the meantime has come up and developed a skill at pickleball. 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: And uh is the owner of the Boston Dragons. So look, 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: we'll be back if you I'd like to ask a question. 189 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: If you're a pickleball player and you're as enthused about 190 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: it as Michael Toe is, feel free six one, seven, two, five, four, 191 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 192 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: I intend to talk about this until eleven, and at 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: eleven we will go to the twentieth hour, and in 194 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: the twentieth hour we will have a Halloween themed twentieth Hour. 195 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't know who we've ever had a well, I 196 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: guess we probably in nineteen years have had Halloween on 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: a Friday night, We're gonna take advantage of that. 198 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: Tonight. Back on night Side, Light the lines up right 199 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: after this. 200 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 201 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 202 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: My guest is Michael Toe. He's the owner of the 203 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: Boston Dragons. It's a professional pickleball team, a senior pickleball league. 204 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: How long has the league been around, Michael? 205 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: This is our inaugural year. OK, it's it started out. 206 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: We had our first we Are Combine in Richmond, Virginia. 207 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: We had hundreds of players try out to turn to 208 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: be on a team and it was a great event 209 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 4: and we end up having and we had our first 210 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: event in Indianapolis in September. We have twelve teams in 211 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: the league and the United States Legends Pickaball League the 212 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: USLPL fourteen players on a team, so we have and 213 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: it's been, it's been. It's a ride. We just came 214 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: back from Philadelphia for our second event a few weeks ago, 215 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: and then we go to Baltimore in the first week 216 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: of December. So we're kind of right now in the 217 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: training level of trying to get our get our get 218 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: our team up and running and working on things and 219 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: getting our plays in and getting our training in to 220 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: really kind of compete. We got some tough matches coming 221 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: up into So this is strategy. 222 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: When you talk about getting plays in, you get some 223 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: strategy in this. This is just not what when you 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: see pick a ball. Uh, you know, when you're going 225 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: through your your recreational facility in your community and to 226 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: see four people playing pick a ball, they're hitting the 227 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: ball back and forth. 228 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: This is a little more intense than that I assumed. 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's I mean, that's doing about pickball. The 230 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: reason why it's such a fast growing sport is that 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: it's a sport that you can play day one. You 232 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: could have someone who you know, a relatively that doesn't 233 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: have to you know, very ethnic. It's just a relative 234 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: person with some hand eye coordination. You can have a 235 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: ten year old play with a seventy five year old 236 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: on a court, have so much fun day one and 237 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: just jump on the air and play. That's why the 238 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: sport is is growing like wildfire across the country. People. 239 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: You know, so many courts are being built outdoor indoor. 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: I'm at a place where the ford in Fort Laarde 241 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: with there's like forty outdoor courts. It's unbelievable it is, 242 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: and they're all packed, and so it's been happening that 243 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: like this across the country. But the thing is, the 244 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: sport can start that way. So it's very the entry 245 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: to play, it's very easy. Unlike golf or maybe tennis, 246 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: you can't really have a great rally. I was a 247 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: college tennis player, and you can't really kind of come 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: in and be a beginner and tennis and kind of 249 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: have fun really back and forth. That doesn't happen till 250 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: later on. Just like golf, you know, to get under 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: one hundred, you know, kind of a you know, a 252 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: you know, a ten fifteen handicap or lower. That could 253 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: take years. 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: I'm working on under one hundred on the front nine. 255 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: So believe me, I know of what you speak there. 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Let me tell you so, Michael, let me ask this, 257 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: what's the funding mechanism for this league? The funding mechanism 258 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: for the NFL and MLB is the major sports networks, 259 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, NFL Football every Sunday, Thursday night through Monday morning, 260 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: Monday afternoon. Ye know, they's just everywhere. What's the funding 261 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: mechanism for this pickleball league? 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: Sure? Well, that's the difference with pickleball. It's different than 263 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: especially senior pro pickball. It's there's not a huge demand 264 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: for people watching, right the TV rights are not a 265 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: people are not knocking on the door to try to 266 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: try to get the TV rights. However, the people who 267 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: want to get involved, uh in the sport is huge. 268 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: It's it's it's because it's such a fast growing sport. 269 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: There's as you kind of as you've probably heard a 270 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: lot of the stories, there's a lot of injuries now 271 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: people who who get involved with you know, injuries from 272 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: the sport or now people are now doing you know, 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: the pickleball shoes, you know shoes and the outfits and 274 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: the and all the different gears. So there's a lot 275 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: of companies who who who connect to the sport. Market merchandise, yes, yes, marketing, merchandise, uh, 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: you know, healthcare. Uh so there's a lot of places 277 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: that kind of connect and so that's, uh, that's why 278 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: the sport is so enticing, and you know, because you 279 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: have so many people playing. That's a difference I think 280 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: a lot of times with with the sport is you know, 281 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: we you know, I'm a huge you know Red Sox fan, 282 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: Patriots fan, but the last time I played baseball. The 283 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: last time I played you know, you know, played flag 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: football back in the day, and that was, you know, 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. The thing with pickleball 286 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: is that there is now the pro circuit is really 287 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: starting to grow, the young pros and the senior pro market. 288 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: And but people can, you know, you can, you can 289 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: strive for this sport is so young that the barriers 290 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: to entry to kind of make it to the to 291 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: a limit. It's there's no real limit right now. Okay, 292 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: one of the one of these. 293 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: My assumption is is quite different than yours. Yours probably 294 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: obviously an assumption that that is based much more on 295 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: experience and reality. What I'm thinking is that if one 296 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: of these sports networks needs to fill time, they could 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: broadcast pickleball games, particularly pickleball games tournaments where your team 298 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: and the other teams here, got teams from Florida and 299 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: New York City and as this said, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, 300 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: a Jersey team, a Buffalo or Roanoke, Virginia team. 301 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: It would seem to. 302 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: Me that there would be a television market marketplace. Now, 303 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: they may not pay you, you know, NFL money, but 304 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: I still would think that people could sit on a 305 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, or for that matter, during the week and say, 306 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, they can identify viewers can say, hey, you know, 307 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: I'm learning, I'm not only enjoying the competition, but I 308 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: might I can learn something from the competition, or am 309 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: I over selling it. 310 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: I do think that that's definitely something that's in the 311 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: cards and it's go and to me, that's where the 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: future is going. I mean, the sport is going to be. 313 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: It's we talked a little bit about this, but there 314 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: are now clubs across the college teams now across the country. 315 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: Now there's a whole College World Series and so there 316 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: there are some either either clubs or full teams. We 317 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: just had the bu pick a Ball club join us 318 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: at eleven OZ at the Patriots Place for our exhibition 319 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: last Sunday. You know, so we have these a lot 320 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: of college players, high school teams are starting to join 321 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: in with clubs, and the Olympics are you know, there's 322 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: talk about the Olympics having pick a ball as as 323 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: as the next new sport there. So it's it's it's 324 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: so young in the in the growth of the sport 325 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: that all this stuff to me is possible. And that's 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: why it's so exciting to be to be part of it, 327 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: you know, be part of the ground floor and and 328 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: knowing a lot of these pro players and senior pro 329 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: players and and you know, it's really exciting. And so 330 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: I do think that'll get there. And that's why it's 331 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: that's why I love it. It's it's like that, it's 332 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: not something it's like starting. You know, you see these 333 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: these documentaries about the Last Dance with Michael Jordan and 334 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: the Chicago Bulls or you you kind of see these 335 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: back you know, but this and that happened in the eighties, 336 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: you know, or you know when the you know, in 337 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: the uh, I don't know when the when the first 338 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: football you know as the the NFL's first started and 339 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: it had all these different leagues, or or the NBA. Well, 340 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: right now we're talking about, you know, something that's that's 341 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: forming right now in the last few years. I mean, 342 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: all things are happening. 343 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: Michael. 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: I can tell the NBA formed before I was born, 345 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: but I'm enough of his story to know that they 346 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: were teams like the Cincinnati Royals and the Syracuse Nats, 347 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Warriors, those teams have moved on. 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: They were teams like the Buffalo Braves. I mean there 349 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: were teams that have the BA. Right, well, no, no, 350 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: this was this was some of it was a BA. 351 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: But but in the late forties when when the NBA 352 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: was formed, and the Celtics were an original team. But 353 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: this was the late forties and pro basketball didn't exist 354 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: in the twenties and the thirties and and until after 355 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: World War Two, and then of course it was it 356 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: was a league. They used to play double headers at 357 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: Boston Garden. You would have the Celtics playing the Neck 358 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: and you'd have the Cincinnati Royals playing the Syracuse Nationals. 359 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: You see four different teams. 360 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: And the Celtics, even when they were doing great in 361 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: the sixties and dominating the league. You can walk up 362 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 3: and buy a ticket any game when they if they 363 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: got five thousand people in the garden. They were the 364 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: Bruins who were losing, were selling it out thirteen nine 365 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: oh nine every night even though they were losing. And 366 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: then basketball, you know, just took off. Hockey now is 367 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: well behind basketball. Even though hockey now has teams across 368 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: the country, it's it's still considered you know, a northern 369 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: American Canadian sport. Yeah, you got teams in Florida, and 370 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: you got Nashville, and you you had a team in Phoenix. 371 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 2: There now in Utah, so you have growth potentially here. 372 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's do this. 373 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: Let's take a pause for the news and we'll go 374 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: to phone calls right after the ten thirty newscasts. So 375 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: sit back, get a glass of water, and we will 376 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: got one line at six one seven four ten thirty 377 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: that's still available, and I got a couple at six 378 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: point seven nine three thirty. Love to have some of 379 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: you folks join in. If you're a pickle ball player, 380 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: you feel free to join in. But this is the 381 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: real deal, and I am not nearly as excited about 382 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: it as Michael Tolway's, but I am excited about it 383 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: to be able to talk to you about the really 384 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: the birth of a league that someday might I don't 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: know if I'll ever be as big as the NFL, 386 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: but it might have an audience that rivals the NFL. Look, 387 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: there was a period of time when baseball was the 388 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: national pastime. Not that way anymore. 389 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: It's now this. 390 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: Professional football baseball is still big, don't get me wrong, 391 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: but it has taken a bit of a backseat to 392 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: the NFL. So taste change sports, come and go. This 393 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: one is coming. 394 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: Feel free to join our conversation back on Nightside right 395 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: after this. 396 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: It's a Night's Side with Dan Ray on. 397 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 4: Boston's news radio. 398 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: My guest is the owner of the Boston Dragons, the 399 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: new senior pickleball team here based in Boston, based in 400 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: New England. Michael Toe is our guest. Michael, let's go 401 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: to phone calls. Our first call is from one of 402 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: your rival owners, Ron, who owns I guess the New 403 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: York team. 404 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: Ron. Welcome to night Side. How are you? 405 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me? 406 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: It would be great if we get the New York 407 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: Boston rival We're going here tonight. 408 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: You go right ahead. You're on with with Michael Toe. 409 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: Oh, it's a pleasure to be here. And uh and 410 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 6: uh now the Boston rivalry has been super fun. Uh 411 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 6: we we we took the first battle in in uh 412 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 6: in the Philly area. And I'm sure Michael is going 413 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 6: to be gunning for us in the in the next battle. 414 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: So, so tell me a little bit about about your team. 415 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: How'd you get involved in this? Ron? 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: And and we're we're. 417 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: I guess you guys had a calm and you had 418 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: a draft like the NFL. 419 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 6: Right, yes, well, first twelve owners. Twelve owners got selected 420 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 6: to their purchase franchises from different cities, predominantly across the 421 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 6: East Coast, and then we were able to protect four players. 422 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 6: And then we had to pick ten people in the draft. 423 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: And so we went to the combine in Richmond, and 424 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 6: there was some great talent and we all assembled very 425 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 6: competitive teams. 426 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: Now, by the way, both all the teams have a 427 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: male contingent and a female contingent. So, yes, how was 428 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: the team brought? Either of you could jump in here, 429 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: Michael or Ron. Is it seven men seven women or 430 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: is there a different balance? 431 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: Yes, seven men, seven women. And there's actually an age 432 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 4: component too, so we have we have two males and 433 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: two females who are over sixty to over fifty, and 434 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 4: two over fifty five, and the rest can be any 435 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: any age over fifty. So it spreads out the age 436 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: range too, rather than just being a league of you know, 437 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: if it's fifty over you probably you probably have a 438 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: primarily young fifty kind of league. 439 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: Like to see the golfer, you know, everybody who's winning, 440 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: it's fifty one and fifty two because they can still hit. 441 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: The ball three hundred yards. 442 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: So that's right. 443 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: So do you have is it, you know, two men 444 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: competing in men's events two other guys? 445 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: When when this when you guys are playing? 446 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: Or can you have a mixed doubles team or is 447 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: there a mixed double element of it? Obviously in tennis, 448 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: mixed doubles is is a traditional element as well as 449 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: you know, women's doubles and men's doubles. 450 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: How does this work? 451 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's the exciting part of it. And i'ron I 452 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: think can attest to this as well. They're in tennis, 453 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: it's primarily singles with pick a ball. It's primarily doubles. 454 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: And the thing about it's not just right, it's not 455 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: just we don't want type of doubles. It's gender doubles. 456 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: So we have men's uh you know, two men against 457 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: two women, I mean two men against two men, and 458 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: then uh, the women have their matches and then we 459 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: have mixed matches, so a man and a woman versus 460 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: a man and woman. So uh, it's a pretty it's 461 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: it's they're in they're different games. A men's game is 462 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: different than a women's game, and a mixed game is 463 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: different than than gender games. So it's it's really kind 464 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: of all and this is all within the torment we had. 465 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 4: We had the Boston Dragons play against the the the 466 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: New York Ballers, and that was that was part of 467 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: a rivalry that that kind of was, you know, that's 468 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: kind of fallowing a tradition of Boston New York teams. 469 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: And and unfortunately the Boston team came, we came a 470 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: little bit short, a little bit short, uh, and I 471 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: had to uh do a bit of a payoff a 472 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: bet with with Ron here. But but but that's only right. 473 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: Unlike found out football, Betty is a looted amongst the 474 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: owners and the players of pickleball. 475 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a we had a private, private, well 476 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: not too private. It was on social media that that 477 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: the losing team at where the gear and and pose 478 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: with gear. So so unfortunately I had to put on 479 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: a New York Okay. 480 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: No, I'm joking with you, because obviously you're getting this 481 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: thing off the ground. 482 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 2: Ron, how was it that you came to own the 483 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: New York team? 484 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: Michael has told us a little bit about since you're 485 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: kind of have to call in what is your background 486 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: that you were able to purchase a franchise. 487 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: One of my friends is one of the other owners 488 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: of the Del Rays, and she told me about the league. 489 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: And I haven't played competitive team sports since college tennis. 490 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 6: And who would have thought at the age of fifty one, 491 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 6: I would not only be able to get a wonderful team, 492 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: but to also compete. And uh, it's it's been, it's 493 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 6: been a dream. 494 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: What college do you play tennis? 495 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 6: Binghamton University in New York. 496 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what Binghamton is. Yankees used to have 497 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 3: a farm team out there many years ago. All right, gentlemen, 498 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: I thank you very much for well, not gentlemen, I'm good. Ron. 499 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: We're gonna thank you for calling in. Uh and Michael 500 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: say right there, we got other phone calls. 501 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having us. 502 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Tom, Thanks Ron, thank. 503 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 6: You, Michael, and congrats on all the accolades. 504 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: Well we'll have a good night. 505 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Ron, appreciate it. Let me go 506 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: to David in Ohio. David in Ohio, David, welcome. Are 507 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: you involved in the league as well? 508 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 5: Well? Interestingly enough, you and I have actually met and 509 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 5: part of the reason you're talking to Michael tonight is 510 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: because you and I are connected to one another. And 511 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm connected to Mike through the Legends Pickleball League because 512 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: my wife Pam plays in the league on another team 513 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: against Michael. 514 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: So how have you and I met? David? Did you 515 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: do prison time with me? 516 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: You know what? 517 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 5: No comment? 518 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: No, no comment? 519 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 5: And I met you and I met in the doctor 520 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 5: Al Frankie's office a number of years ago. 521 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: I have a mutual friend. 522 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I bought I bought the whole concept 523 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: of prolo therapy to him in the Boston area and 524 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: I've been there a couple of times and we've met 525 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: and Al's a great friend. And as you may know, 526 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: Al is currently the title sponsor of the Boston Dragons. 527 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I I want to turn over my I want 528 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: to turn over my wife to you. 529 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: So you have the opportunity to speak to a former 530 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: collegiate player. When she graduated college from Flagler University in 531 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: Saint Augustine, Pam's ranked first United States in both singles 532 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: and doubles. It was a few years ago, but she's 533 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: one of those plus sixty players for the d m 534 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: V Picklers out of the District, Maryland and VIRGINI. This 535 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: is Pam Lippy. This is my friend indirectly through doctor Frankie, 536 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: whom she's known for ever since we've been married. This 537 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 5: is Dan Ray night side baby. 538 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi Jan and Hi Michael, Hi Pam Bam. 539 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: Were you a tennis player in college? Did your husband say? 540 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: Well? 541 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 7: Not only was I a tennis player in college, I 542 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 7: still am a tennis player. 543 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 8: Whoa Okay, the most famous tennis women tennis players that 544 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 8: I've ever known are Nancy Ritchie, Cliff Ritchie's sister. 545 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: She's in the Hall of Fame. 546 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: Uh. And I once hit with Barbara Potter, who was 547 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: a great player in the eighties. I think she was 548 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: ranked number ten in the world and she just blew 549 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: me away. I mean this amazing, The respect that I 550 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: have for phebale athletes having played, played, tried to play. 551 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: It's I know. If you remember Barbara Potter, she was out. 552 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: Of Connecticut, uh, and she was an awesome, big left 553 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: handed tennis player, and she could she could hit the 554 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: ball so it goes right, so close left, an unbelievable experience. 555 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: So I stand in awe of women tennis players. 556 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: I want you to know that and actually again a 557 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: lot of the a lot of players, as Pam, you 558 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: admit that you're still playing tennis, but a lot of 559 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: people are switching from tennis over to to pick a ball, 560 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: and it's Pam is one of those ones who can 561 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: do both. To me, it's hard. I've kind of put 562 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: up the put uh hung up the rackets, uh you know, 563 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: uh years ago, and it's it's all pickaball now. But 564 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: but we have a lot of people who are now 565 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: coming in who are pro tennis. As my sister's a 566 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: was a pro test player on the tour and she 567 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: she's a pro pickaball player now as well, not a senior. 568 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: But there are people Von Lindel, Andre Agassi, you remember 569 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: those names, Max, lend All, They're all they've all come 570 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: over into into pro P. 571 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: I did realize Lendel and Legacy. Half wow. 572 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Michael told you you may be onto 573 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: something here. Let me tell you, well, we got to 574 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: take a break, David, thanks so much for calling in, Pam. 575 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: Pleasure to meet you. And probably at some point I'll 576 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: bump into you guys up here in Boston sometimes through 577 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: our mutual friends and uh great to uh great, great, 578 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: to meet both of you. We have a lot of 579 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: listeners in Ohio, believe it or not, so feel free 580 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: to tune into night'st any night from all HIV. 581 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 7: Thank you, great show, and Michael, I'll see you in 582 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 7: our showdown in Baltimore. 583 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: That's right, Pam, we'll get ready. 584 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: Okay, players are very polite here. I like that. Thanks guys, 585 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: we talk, we'll talk. So thanks, Thanks David, Thanks Pat. 586 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Have a great night. 587 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: Thank you. 588 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: All right, this is wonderful. We got a bunch of calls. 589 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. Michael. 590 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: We got to take a final break here, one final 591 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: commercial break, but I got coming up up Jennifer in Boston. 592 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: I got Sienna in Boston and uh te ha or 593 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: t h t t yaw uh from Denham. We'll be 594 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: back on Nightside right after this. We'll finish it up 595 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: right after the break. 596 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio. 597 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. We have we four lines. 598 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get everybody in. Won't be easy, 599 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: but let's start with Jennifer and Boston. Hey Jennifer, welcome, 600 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: how are you tonight? You're on with Michael toe. 601 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 7: Hi Dan Hi, Michael, this is Jennifer Jenna Metti. I'm 602 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: a SAG actor and any film producer, and my question 603 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 7: for you, Michael is have you considered doing a film 604 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 7: on pickleball, especially a comedy and what are your upcoming 605 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 7: projects acting projects that you're working on. 606 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: Thanks Jennifer. So it's actually we're actually I would love 607 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: to be in a pickaball movie. The only thing is 608 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: it's and there have been there, there's a there's a 609 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 4: new Benseller one, but I because it's a new sport, 610 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: I think they it's one of those ones where they're 611 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: they're taking people who are not necessary players in it 612 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: and so so so my skill there doesn't really translate 613 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: over into into being a caster. However, we are actually 614 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: doing a documentary and I'm doing a documentary with my 615 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: uh my producing partner while we're doing the team. So 616 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: we're doing a documentary called Making the Boston Dragons, and 617 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: so we're documenting uh it's it's it's combining my my 618 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: film side and and you know, having a cast and 619 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: crew and director and sound people and videographers and all 620 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: the stuff that's happening with making a team, which is 621 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: which is way more complicated and stressful, but but awesome 622 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: and great and fun at the same time. 623 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: We have Tea on the line. Uh, she's the next caller, 624 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: so we're going to be able to talk with her 625 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: about that. I know she's involved in this project with you. 626 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: Yes, Jennifer, Yes, but thank you, Jennifer. 627 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. Jennifer, appreciate your time, Thank you, 628 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. Good. 629 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: Now let me go to Taya, who actually I believe 630 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: is involved in the documentary with you. 631 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 2: Heya, you're on with Michael Toe. 632 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 9: I am here, and I am very excited to talk 633 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 9: a little bit about this short form documentary series. Mike 634 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 9: is a really good friend of mine. I've been producing 635 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 9: videos with him for many years now. The footage that 636 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 9: we're getting is quite exhilarating. You get to see some 637 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 9: very very interesting perspectives of age and playing pickleball and 638 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 9: athleticism and all of the very complicated routines and all 639 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 9: the expectations there are from building a team like this. 640 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 9: Mike is doing an amazing job, and I'm just really 641 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 9: proud to work with him. 642 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 3: How will you How will you market? I'll tell you, 643 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: how will you market this? This film is this sort 644 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: of something going to go to different film festivals or 645 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: do you hope that you can get it on I 646 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: don't know, ESPN or one of the one of the 647 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 3: sports channels. 648 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 9: I've made hundreds of documentaries, and there's usually a marketing 649 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 9: strategy for any any of this kind of work. The 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 9: difference in this case is that we're not only developing 651 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 9: it as we you know, as Mike is building the team, 652 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 9: but we're we're creating a new sort of genre of 653 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 9: short form documentary uh and uh series. So we're not 654 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 9: quite sure yet where it will fit. But what we 655 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 9: do know is that the drama of the the story 656 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 9: is very compelling, so I think we'll be able to 657 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 9: find that market once we get closer to finishing uh 658 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 9: the most of the filming. 659 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: Well that's great, actually I could so the great thing 660 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: about it. Tea is is my partner, but he's he's 661 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 4: uh my producer, part he is an Emmy award winning 662 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 4: editor and so he we have a great team involved, 663 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 4: uh you know, making this. But what what I found 664 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 4: really interesting so far is not just that not just 665 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: the pickleball sports piece, but it's actually all the human 666 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 4: stories behind it. So some people, I mean the people 667 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 4: you know all my Yeah, I mean that the people 668 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: on my team, that there are people who are doctors, 669 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: who are entrepreneurs. One of one of my team, my 670 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: my team captain was the one of the founders of 671 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: Constant Contact. I have my managers Tabda who used to 672 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 4: be a dragon back in back in Ducks for Duxbury Days. 673 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: You know. There there's a there are pro tennis players 674 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 4: as a captain on my team. You know, business owners, 675 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: you know. Uh, it's people all watched life with every 676 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: very different stories who have now come together because of this, 677 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: because of this sport that we all love and are 678 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: playing at. It's such a high level and it's really 679 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: you know, it's really been our passion. It's it's it's 680 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: changed and and helped helped our lives in so many 681 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: different ways. And I think that's the part that Tay 682 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: and I are seeing, uh in in the documents the 683 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: footage that we've seen so far, as the great human 684 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 4: interest stories behind the sport of this awesome sport of pick. Oh. 685 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, the theat the. 686 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: Great stories and sports are not not not the box 687 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: scores or even the game reports, but they're the backstories 688 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: the player who perseveres and uh, and and somehow prevails. Hey, 689 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: I got a couple of other calls. I'd just like 690 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 3: to give them a quick minute. Do me a favor 691 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: when you when you get this and you're going to, 692 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: you know, show the documentary somewhere, let me know and 693 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: I'll have you on and we'll get you some publicity 694 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: on it. 695 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 9: Okay, you got it. 696 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 2: Sounds great, Tell you, thank you very much, appreciate it. 697 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Let me keep going here. 698 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: I want to try to accommodate Sienna and Jody do 699 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: your next on nightsig go. 700 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 6: Right ahead, Hi, Hi, Hi, I just have a. 701 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 10: Question for Michael. Right ahead, Yeah, I And I know 702 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 10: he's he's not only is he a senior pro Pagaball 703 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 10: player and a team owner, he's also an actor and 704 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 10: a financial player and even a fall They're like, I 705 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 10: just wonder how you can balance all these different things 706 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 10: like in your day. 707 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: That's great, it's a great question. Go ahead, Michael. 708 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: Well this is coming from uh from someone himself with 709 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 4: my daughter, and it's you know, when you have when 710 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: you have so many things going on, it is it 711 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 4: is it is tough because you know, I do have 712 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 4: a family and I do have you know, I do 713 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: have daughters, and and sometimes sometimes it's tough when you 714 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 4: have all these kind of passions. But what I've always 715 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 4: tried to do is kind of actually incorporated my family 716 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: with it into this. So so now in terms of 717 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 4: pickle ball, my wife plays, she's down with me here 718 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 4: in fort Lydale, and in my movie areas, I've always 719 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 4: brought my daughters in to be involved, whether or not 720 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: it's being helping me with producing something or joining me 721 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: in a play that we have in or you know. 722 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: So to me, it's it's the combination of of the 723 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: passions that I have and kind of bringing you know, 724 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: bring my family and integrating them with me. 725 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: How many daughters do you have, Michael, I have. 726 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: I have three. And unfortunately this is a whole another thing. 727 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 4: But my oldest passed away a few years ago. She 728 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 4: was at nineteen. But pickleball, thank you. But but pickleball 729 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 4: has been what really has saved our family in many ways. 730 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 4: It's been a place that we've been able to go 731 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: to heal and to work with grief, and and it's 732 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 4: really been a saver. And this is actually a lot 733 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 4: of stories like that when you when you hear pickleball, 734 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: because you know, if you're you know, when we were 735 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: dealing with the loss, you know, three years ago. It 736 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: was one of those things when we played, when I 737 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 4: jumped on the court and pick a ball while I'm 738 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 4: still grieving, I could. I had to focus on the ball. 739 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 4: If I went anywhere else, I would get I would 740 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 4: get hit. 741 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 2: You know, understand Sianna. 742 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: We're flat out a time, so I'll give you your 743 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 3: dad back and thanks, thanks so much for calling. 744 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, Michael, gotta. 745 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 2: Let you go. 746 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: If folks want to get more information on the Boston Dragons, 747 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: what's the website? How can they find you? 748 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 4: The best way to find us is on Instagram or Facebook. 749 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 4: Boston can look up to Boston Dragons. You can find myself, 750 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 4: Michael Toe. You can kind of see all our you know, 751 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 4: kind of events and you know, you know, our our 752 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 4: training facilities at leven Oh or you see our players 753 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: like Lauren Charles and Randy Park. You'll see all the 754 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: footage and videos there. And Dan, thank you so much 755 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 4: for having me. 756 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 3: Very welcome, Judy, welcome, Michael, best of luck, keep in touch. Okay, 757 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: thank you so much. We're gonna wrap the week and 758 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: wrap the evening here in the twentieth Hour. Come up, 759 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: it's going to be Halloween themed. I'll explain it on 760 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: the other side of the eleven o'clock News