1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: This is your Could the state of hockey finally be 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: ready to live up to its name? Leader fan Fan 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Radio Network and k f a N dot Com. Two 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: minutes and thirty three seconds past the hour of three 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: o'clock Central Standard Time, Welcome back bumberta Bumper. 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Live local on the air. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: It's the afternoon Ardvark between now and six thirty tonight. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barrero, former Inkstein Retch newspaper of 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: the Twin Cities. Buys my ink in fifty gallon barrels. 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Guardsy is the two time state high school tennis champion. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: Have you ever been nominated, by the way to the 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota High School Hall of Fame that Louis just is 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: about to get inducted into. 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: I doubt it? No, Why not? 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've done enough? Two time state singles champion. 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's a little What 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: else do you have to do? I don't know. It 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: feels like more. I don't know. Maybe I should be. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Has anybody ever tried to place your name and nominated? 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know how the process? 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't either. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to put your name in the 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: in the hot. No, I guess I'd never even thought 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: of that one. I don't see any reason why that 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't at least be under consideration. 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: That's multiple championships, that's true. Maybe one. 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I get it if you but if you have no 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: I get I'll agree. If you had three or four, 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: that even be better. But you couldn't do it as 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: a freshman. You weren't even eligible. 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was elgied. Did you come close as 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: a sophomore? I got third as a sophomore? You did? 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, a sophomore. Yeah, so a three, a one, and 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: a one. Yeah, it's a pretty good run. That's a 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: good run. I mean maybe an individual support. That's a sport. 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I think you should at least be under maybe some 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: discussion about it. 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: What started today? Let's start a dialogue? Yeah, let's start. 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: I don't want a monologue. I want a dialogue. 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Now. If that happens, i'll have I'll get to thank 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: you first. 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: Getting the ball. Nobody, he's got to start, get the 43 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: moment going. 44 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: What's the the the Glenn Mason Weekly Diet tribe regarding 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: an honor? Not? Well, oh it's the the lineman not 46 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: up on the at. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: We need a we need a ring of honor. Honor 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: won the Outland Trophy. 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: It's like the Heisman Trophy for offensive lineman, and you 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: wanted that Minnesota, which means you really have to be 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: good because Minnesota never wins awards. 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: Correct. I think I've heard that speech a time or 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: two before on air and off here. Correct. 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually would be funny if I got myself 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: from the high School Hall of Fame before I got 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the Estlinger Ring of Honor, things started, well, he would 57 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: definitely rip you, man, So you were a lot more 58 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: invested because it was about you, yeah, rather than about him. 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm just I don't know. 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: There are people via the Branshaw on Brian KMF in 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: text line of my people to answer the like how 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: many people are inducted into the Minnesota State High School 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: League Hall of Fame? A La Louis Yeah, who just 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: got announced as being in the class of twenty twenty 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: six Tuesday. I think it was a day And you know, 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that was an accident that they. 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: Announced it the day. Smart. They're smart. 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: We have Louis on so they could get the maximum 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: mileage out of it. 70 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: They're very smart. Yeah, extremely smart. 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: We should real quick, congratulate Chris Long from Channel five 72 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: because he won some big media awards down in the 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: High School League today. 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: It was announced and he if. 75 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: You watch HSL good guy award should But you see 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: him and he's there and he listens to the show. 77 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: He's always texting in nuggets and things like that for 78 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: us to chew on, which I appreciate. But if you 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: watch a state tournament, you're going to see him because 80 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: he's always on the desk. True, and he'll work with 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: like the professor, you know, the guy with the glasses. Yes, 82 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: during hockey, I work with the guys during football. He 83 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: does basketball you all with the dignitaries air like the 84 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: dude is just a total stud for like two straight months. 85 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: So he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame 86 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: before me, Well, I would go that far. I mean, 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that's a media thing. I mean, And and obviously Louis 88 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: didn't play here, well it didn't play in high school here, 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: but he's on TV. Yeah, he's in a different category. 90 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I think, I'm just musing. I'm asking 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe people can tell me it's a dumb idea, and 92 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: here's why. But I don't think that's all that crap, 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: especially now that I know you finished. 94 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 95 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: I remember you telling me you finished third your sophomore year. 96 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: We don't brag about that. That's pretty good. How about doubles? 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Were you in doubles? Did you participate in doubles? I 98 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: lost in the sections in doubles my fresh my freshman year, 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: and then you didn't. You can only do one. You 100 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: only do one, Okay, there's not an opposite. Once you 101 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: get to a certain say, we don't need a partners. 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to do this on my own. 103 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: Could this finally be the time, the moment when the 104 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: state of Hockey lives up to its name. I said 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: this before, I'll say it again. I know it's not 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: popular in the hockey community, but I don't care to 107 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: full believe in the notion that we are the state 108 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: of Hockey. The professional component of it has to be 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: better than it's been, has to be a legitimate force 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: at least once every ten years in the National Hockey League. 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Don't text me with but state of Hockey is about 112 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: more than just the prose. 113 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: Dan, It's an ethic. We know that. 114 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: But you know and I know that if the wild 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: had a greater hockey tradition, those same people would be saying, 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: and part of the reason where the state of hockey is. 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: We have been a significant and consistent force, not just 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: on the high school level, not just on the college level, 119 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: but on the professional level as well. I'm not bringing 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: this up to bruise egos or hurt feelings. I'm actually 121 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: bringing it up as a compliment to the current condition 122 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: of your Minnesota. While back in action last night, much 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: anticipated return game against the Lanch post Olympics, and they 124 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: get it done with a five to two victory in 125 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: which the starting goaltender was so committed that he threw 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: up late in the game. That was after I think 127 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: he made forty four saves for his favorite hockey team, 128 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: the Minnesota. While this team feels different, it lands different, 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: it seems to skate different. We finally feel like we've 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: got some star power to go with the grunts. We 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: now have the second best record in hockey. How many 132 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: points are we now behind the lanchlast night? 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: Is it five or three? I'll pull it up. 134 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: They're the only team that has more points than we do. 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: I believe in the league. I also think we've had 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: the best record in hockey since Qunnesota arrived. We were 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: five points back, five points back. At this point, they've 138 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: got two games in hand. 139 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: They do have two. They always do. The lance always 140 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: seem to have two games in hand on us. I 141 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: don't know what. 142 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: And the games are always in Denver. That seems to 143 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: be that way. They're in hand and they're at home. 144 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: So it's a compliment to how this team is landing 145 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Right now. I've got too much Olympics still on me, 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking in terms of landing as in you know, 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: nailing the landing as in skating, figure skating, or I 148 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: guess in some ski jumping events as well. It would 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: be I think nice and helpful to not have the 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: pro component of this be. 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: The afterthought. 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I get it, we draw well, the franchise is healthy, 153 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: We understand all of that. But is it not fair 154 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: to say that in the state of hockey, the pro 155 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: side of it has not held up its end of 156 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: the bargain. It just hasn't, and I'll continue to say 157 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: until it does. We can't really in good faith call 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: ourselves the state of hockey, because the state of hockey 159 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to me has to be good to great at all. 160 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Three levels. And by the way, right now we're not 161 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: very good at the college level either, but that's allegedly 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a blip on the radar screen. 163 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: We'll see. 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: They certainly have had some great moments. We know that 165 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: in their history and even more recently this season. 166 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Not so much. High school speaks for itself. 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: One of the things I've said about that I believe 168 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: has damaged our credibility as a hockey brand when it 169 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: comes to the pro side is occasionally any names would 170 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: come up that might be available via trade or free 171 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: agency right where the player had the option right, might 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: have a no trade clause that he can wave, or 173 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: might be Okay, there's certain teams I'll go to, a 174 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: certain teams I won't. And I always felt we were 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: incredibly naive and delusional in this market to think that 176 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: everybody wants to come here, everybody that has options wants 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: to come here, made no sense because we hadn't done anything. 178 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: We weren't credible as an as a National Hockey League 179 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: contender to make that all will have to come and 180 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to come to Minnesota. Well, if you 181 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: want to win for a long time, you'd say, I'm 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: not so sure because they really haven't done much, winning 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: no playoff series victories in ten years. I think over 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the last ten years we're oh and seven, we've had 185 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: seven playoff runs with no obviously no success. So then 186 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I pick up the Athletic and what do I see 187 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: or what do I read? Your guy, Steven Stamkos. Here's 188 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: the nugget from the Athletics. Pierre Lebrun pretty plugged in. 189 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: Stamkos has the Wild repeat. Samcos has the Wild on 190 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: his short list of teams that he'd be open to 191 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: getting traded to the others, the Dallas Stars and the 192 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Lightning his old team, or he 193 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: was the longtime face of the franchise. Now fairness and 194 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: savagery or fairness in this case in puffery, he's denying it. 195 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: Samkos has already denied it, said, I haven't talked to anybody, 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: including my general manager, about any of this stuff, so 197 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going. Now again, take 198 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: that for what it might be worth, But this is 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: an example of how you become the state of hockey. 200 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: You play well enough, maybe you add a piece like Quinnesota, 201 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: and the existing pieces you have seem to be maturing 202 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and growing in key places on the team, and suddenly 203 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: I think it's not crazy to think that he might 204 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: be interested in coming here. So what's changed, well has 205 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to be a belief that something is percolating here. There's 206 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: at least the possibility of this thing going someplace long 207 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: way from here to there. 208 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: We haven't won a single playoff. 209 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: Game yet yet, a playoff series or a series of series. 210 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: But now it's not so funny what I used to 211 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: chuckle at. I don't think necessarily I can chuckle at anymore. 212 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it is more likely that enough has happened 213 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: that there would be some players who'd say, yeah, I'd 214 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: consider that, I'd put that in the mix. I saw 215 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: what Quinnsota did at the Olympics. 216 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: He seems to like it. 217 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: Wherever the case may be, it seems to like it there, 218 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. So all of this is meant as a 219 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: bouquet to the Minnesota while but I think there are 220 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: too many hockey people in this town who haven't been 221 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: honest about this aspect of the state of hockey. 222 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: And they pretend it doesn't matter. 223 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: We eat, sleep, drink it as a as a mindset 224 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: since we're born. 225 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: That's great. 226 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: That's great, but you have to have you have to 227 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: be on the map on the professional side, because is 228 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: that still I mean, you can do the research for me, 229 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: but is that still not the highest level of hockey? 230 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: It is professional? Yeah, it's one of the voids. 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: And isn't that like again, we love the high school story, 232 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: we love the state tournament. We like our Gophers when 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: it's going a little better than it is right now, 234 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and that's pretty high level college hockey. But the pros 235 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: are the pros. That's the highest level we have to 236 00:12:53,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: be represented in it. So maybe we're seeing sign that 237 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: we are headed in that to potentially that direction. Bratchew 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: Brian kfan text line is open at six four six 239 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: eighty six because I think it's. 240 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 2: Time, it's needed. 241 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: If we really want to with a straight face, hold 242 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: on to the state of hockey. Hasn't it gotten tiresome 243 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: to say, Man, they keep selling it out at the X. 244 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it, and I'm proud 245 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: of that, but I haven't really done much. Wouldn't it 246 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: be nice to not have to say that anymore? And 247 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: to say those fans, those loyal fans who've hung in 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: team of eighteen thousand exactly are going to. 249 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: Be rewarded now with just entertaining hockey. 250 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying a lot of the hockey that the 251 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: whole to played in recent years isn't entertaining, But do 252 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: you really just want to have to to use as 253 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: your calling card? We sell out, We're always there. The 254 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: atmosphere there's great, arena needs a little bit of updating, 255 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: but still awfully good. Been a great run. There Is 256 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: that really enough for you? What is wrong with winning? 257 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Closer got to Craig Kilbourne if he happens to be 258 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: podcasting the show today more overdue to have him on 259 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: maybe next week. 260 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: It could be great. 261 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: We reintroduce him to the Minnesota Timberwolves conversation and any 262 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: other conversation he might want to. 263 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: Get involved with. 264 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: J G should threaten to attack Greenland if he is 265 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: not nominated for the Minnesota State High School League Hall 266 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: of Fame. What do you mean, Dan, I was also 267 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: state champion. You got to set multiple records with multiple 268 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: events in one state meet in track in nineteen seventy three. 269 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: Apparently in this case, okay, does attending six or seven 270 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: colleges disqualify you from the Minnesota High. 271 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: School League Hall of Fame. 272 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it should because it me from those 273 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: other colleges exactly. 274 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: It came after. 275 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the with what you 276 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: did in high school? Where does JJ rank in the 277 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: e dina? 278 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Is there any diner ring of honor? Yeah? Are you 279 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: in that? Yeah? Oh you are in that? Yeah? Oh 280 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: did I know that? Uh? 281 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay it was a while ago. Was that a 282 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: while ago? Was it a big emotional Did you have 283 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: to give a speech or anything? 284 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: Did you did? Yeah? I did. Oh that's good. That's 285 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: good to hear. Yeah that was a good reminder. Yeah, 286 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: probably ten years ago. 287 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Uh, it was a great run for Guardsy. What a 288 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: great school? What a great run? What a racket? 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: What kind of legacy will I leave while Guardsy? 290 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: This from alry Mondela guy went from I didn't do 291 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: enough to get into the high school Hall of Fame too? 292 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I should be in the hall of Fame in 293 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: about three second. 294 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: That's about as long as my humility lasts. 295 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: M good work pumping up the disenfranchised cake eater to 296 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: start the show. 297 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah I was due. 298 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Maybe Bli Levin can share the Guardsy committee. He's quite 299 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: a persistent lobbyist. That's true, remember that I do, and 300 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: he got in eventually he did as a Michigan or 301 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: is it Michiganders Michigander. I was surprised to learn Minnesota 302 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: calls itself the state of hockey. When I moved here, 303 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: I would have put that nickname on Michigan because of 304 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the Red Wings. 305 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Huh. 306 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: This is an interesting conversation, writes doctor Phil. The mental 307 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: health counsel in our office is a big mission guy, 308 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: and he claims also that the state of Michigan is 309 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the state of hockey. He also backs that up by 310 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: the success of the Detroit Red Wings. U interesting way 311 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: to look at it. What would be the other hotbed, 312 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: is it matt would be Massachusetts, Massachusetts? 313 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are We're kind of the three. 314 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: I think Avalanche had State of Hockey up on the 315 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: boards in Colorado last night. 316 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: Is that true? Do they? As in as in they 317 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: claim they're the state of Hockey. 318 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: What I would assume is or is that stuff that's 319 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: super imposed for our part, That's what I would assume. Yeah, yes, 320 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: it trips me up every once in a while as well, 321 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: But I would assume all of that stuff was super 322 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: imposed on the fan duel broadcast. What time did we 323 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: start three or two? Yeah, so it took sixteen minutes 324 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: for this one to come in. Totally get what you're 325 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: saying about the wild but we are more than that 326 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the state of hockey. We as 327 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: a hockey DA players in the NHL, our awesome high 328 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: school attorney. How the whole state has great teams. I 329 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: was at a Section final last night. It was packed 330 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: Anka versus Channey. I asked for this not to be 331 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: texted because I said exactly that in the front end. 332 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: What I continue to believe is you're kidding yourself if 333 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: you don't think the professional component is massive and that 334 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: we have flunked in that area. 335 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: We have, We just have. 336 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how many of players from the state 337 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: have excelled in the NHL. It's about your team that's 338 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: got to be part of the state of hockey. And 339 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: as I said, I meant all this as a compliment 340 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: because it feels like we might have a pro team 341 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: ready to assume the mantle to to sort of continue 342 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: the tradition that has been established and maintained so long 343 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: at the high school and the professional level. Whalen's in 344 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: the high School Hall of Fame. Maybe she could get 345 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: me in. She went in two years ago. She did. Yeah, 346 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: no state tournaments for it that. Do we have a 347 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: number on how many people are in there total? 348 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: In all? 349 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: I could count them up, We'll probably take a while. Yeah, 350 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: it's a large number. You'd say, are we in the 351 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: hundreds or in the thousands? Hundreds? 352 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: Hundreds? Yeah, they started in nineteen ninety one. 353 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: Unpopular anti high school hockey take here. High schools are 354 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: continuously robbed of their best talent by junior hockey and 355 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: private schools. The product that the state hockey tournament has 356 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: always been a false representation of the cities and communities 357 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: on their uniforms. 358 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: I know this isn't the only. 359 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: Minnesot high school sport with that issue, but. 360 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Hockey is the biggest offender. Oh, you mean recruiting and stuff. 361 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: So he's well that and just saying robbed by junior 362 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: hockey and yeah on private schools. Yeah, that's from Christian 363 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: in Rosema. There's a lot of that. 364 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: Huh. 365 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: NHL this year at least one game played at the 366 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: NHL level. Minnesota forty seven players, Michigan thirty seven, Wisconsin eight. 367 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: State of Hockey Massachusetts twenty nine. Therefore, Minnesota is. 368 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: The state of hockey. 369 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Box enough said, But you should also be intelligent enough 370 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: to realize USA hockey has succeeded and hockey is getting 371 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: better everywhere it has influence, hence the gold medal. 372 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: And why are you. 373 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: Seemingly disregarding women's hockey because your argument clearly loses all 374 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: water there. 375 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Or are you now a trumper? 376 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: Those are the only two options. God blessed the Frost. Yeah, 377 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: God blessed the Frost. I would never ever disparage what 378 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: they've done. Hell, when it comes to Minnesota Links basketball, 379 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: in part because they've been around longer. Nobody covers more 380 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: links stuff than we do year after year. But let's 381 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: be real, Minnesota Frost have been around for a minute and. 382 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: They've done great. No arguing with that. 383 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: But part of being the state of hockey has to 384 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: be that the professional hockey team that's been here for 385 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: a while now preceded by another professional hockey team that left. 386 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Remember think about that in the state of hockey. And 387 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: you can be mad at Norman Green all you want, 388 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: but in the state of Hockey, it happened. In the 389 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: state of Hockey, a professional team left departed and then 390 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: went someplace else to get a cup. So that has 391 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: to be regardless of whether the frost existed or not, 392 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: or excelled or not, has to absolutely be part of 393 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: I would say, said conversation. Gus Bust throws it up 394 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: State of Hockey, looking up Kevin Faulness eats it up 395 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Wild and five. 396 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: It's the first one of the wild ones we have. Yeah, 397 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: it's very interesting. 398 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Tell mission to count their PWHL championships. 399 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: Or two for two. 400 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, we are, but State of Hockey is supposed 401 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: to be part of history that goes back a little 402 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: further than that, right thought, olson't be a guy writes 403 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: my sources say, Sarah Spain is willing to fly in 404 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: for guardsis high school Hall of Fame induction speech. That's 405 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: a great callback. Yeah, somebody noticed this. I didn't even 406 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: see this. Next, we are the State of Hockey, yet 407 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: we couldn't keep the North Stars. Michigan has way more 408 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: insteadily titles and titles with multiple schools in Michigan itself 409 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: and Michigan itself being second. 410 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: Huh. 411 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: They have the national team program too, the development program 412 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: right there in ann Arbor. 413 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: That's true, isn't it. 414 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And now you're starting to make the argument for 415 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: some else. So Detroit is calls itself hockey town, hockey town, 416 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: hockey town. 417 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: Yep, that right. 418 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: Exactly when's the last time the Red Wings won anything. 419 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like suggesting the Gophers make us the state 420 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: of hockey because they haven't won championships in over twenty years. 421 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota roof living in Michigan, Minnesota, original state of Hockey. 422 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Michigan can have their hockey town. We need to prove 423 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: it though, school dude in Michigan. So this is somebody 424 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think the roof this was dictated. 425 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: So this is a Minnesota and I think now living 426 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: in Michigan, I think the Texter could be referring to 427 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the guy behind our bench who's holding up a wild 428 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: slash State of Hockey flag. 429 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: Oh is that true? I don't know. Could be. 430 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: There were a ton of wild fans in Denver last night. 431 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: There always are. There were a ton of wolves fans 432 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: in la last night. I love it. I love it. 433 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: Smoke them if you got them, if you're a transplanting 434 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: for traveling, I love. 435 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: Going into the other buildings. It was awesome for both 436 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: last night. It's terrific. There's no question about that. It 437 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: was outstanding. Can you hit the breaking news sounder? This 438 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: score just in from spring training Twins five, Yankees seventeen. 439 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I'll take him at his words. 440 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: That's accurate. Split squad? 441 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Can we go? Can we excuse it with a split 442 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: squad situation? 443 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: We know it's not good baseball. 444 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: It's only the preseason, correct, that's what they say. I 445 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: mean the games don't count yet, right, they don't. Sadly, 446 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: they probably won't count in April either. Bottom of that, 447 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: the hour break when we come back, we come to 448 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: find out and who knew this was true? Sometimes context matters. 449 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: We'll explain that. 450 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: It is a massive matchup up in the Western Conference. 451 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: This Sunday is the Wolves take on the Denver Nuggets. 452 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Tip Off is just after two thirty pm. You can 453 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: catch every shot, every dunk, every jaw dropping play all 454 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: season on the Timberwolves iHeartRadio channel. Looks like I'm looking 455 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: at the Twins box score from today. We did get 456 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: edged by the Yankees seventeen to five. We've now we 457 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: have yet to win a home game in spring training 458 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: where zero zero to four at home, we're two and six. Overall, 459 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: Riyah started, went a third of an inning, gave up 460 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: four runs, Sands gave up three earned runs, Brito gave 461 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: up six earned runs, and Sunny and Bischoff gave up two. 462 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: So we allowed sixteen earned runs on thirteen hits and 463 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: walked ten. So we thought pitching was going to be 464 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: the strength of the club, But we've lost now a 465 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: couple of starters who are going to be in the rotation, 466 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: and we're looking at a brand new sort of mix 467 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: and match starting rotation already. Bumper to Bumper is the 468 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: name of the program. Ben Gestling will join at four 469 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: thirty and Lavelle is scheduled four five thirty today. I 470 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: missed it last night, but my sources say that speaking 471 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: of viral moments, there was much chatter locally and nationally. 472 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: After an exchange of words. 473 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Well, it was really more I think Anthony Edwards at 474 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: this particular point after he hit a ridiculous shot that 475 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: helps sealed the deal for the Wolves last night against the. 476 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: Shall we say depleted Clippers. 477 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to talk about depletions except 478 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: where the team that's depleted, but Clippers were depleted last 479 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: night and it looked like Edwards kind of got in 480 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Finchy's face, and earlier it sounds like Finchy had said 481 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: passed the ball, and then there was discussion about it 482 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: in the locker room after. And it's juicy, right because 483 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: it's a superstar player and a head coach and you're 484 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: looking for stuff because it's a long season, even though 485 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: it's starting to shorten up. 486 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: You don't want me to pass the ball. You want 487 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: me to shoot it. 488 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: That's it, because I think the rest of the quote 489 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: was looked like you were showing some emotion down the 490 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: stretch here as well when you hit that three. Look 491 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: like I said, that's what I do. 492 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: Why I mean because to play before Finchy, when I 493 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: took to me at range over two, he was like, 494 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: pass the ball, and you know I just told him like, 495 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: you don't want me to pass the ball, you want 496 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: me to shoot. 497 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, they're both right actually in an odd sort of way. Yeah, 498 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: it's a weird situation. But what fascinates me about the 499 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: story is I'm looking at a piece put together by 500 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: Chris Heine, who covers the team and of course has 501 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: a book out about Anthony Edwards. I think it's called 502 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: ant yes, very appropriately titled, appropriately titled, for sure, and 503 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: he lays out the relationship how it has played out 504 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: over the years. We often hear he wrote, this is 505 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: hein writing Edward's talking about how Finch can be hard 506 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: on Edwards, that he's demanding of him. And wherever Edwards does, 507 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: it's always away from the heat of that exchange with 508 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: Finch in a practice game or film session, and Edwards 509 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: does nothing but praise French Finch. I should say. The 510 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: thing is, those initial moments are rarely caught on camera 511 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: the way it was Thursday when Edwards appeared to have 512 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: a few words for Finchy. Edwards said, after with a 513 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: smile on his face, finchuld want him to pass. You 514 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: just heard the SoundBite after shooting a tough rain shot. 515 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: Finchy said. He didn't say that, by the way, but 516 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: fans are dissecting the interaction to say there might be 517 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: an issue between Finch and Edwards. Before you come to 518 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: that conclusion, allow for some context. And I read that sentence. 519 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I stopped. I said, huh, are you trying to tell 520 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: me that a viral moment captured might not always tell 521 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: the whole story, That context might matter that if you 522 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: care about pursuing accuracy or the truth or getting closer 523 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: to it, because we can get pretty philosophical about what 524 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: is truth and whose truth is yours and mine, et cetera. 525 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: But it would seem to indicate that if you really 526 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: want to get a handle on what might be going 527 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: on between Edward and FINCHY might want to allow for 528 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: some context beyond that viral. 529 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Moment. 530 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: And he lays out some quotes from the book that 531 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: he got from Mike Conley nas Reed, and he writes, 532 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: I get the sense that Finch and Edwards have have 533 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: more heated moments with each other than fans typically see. 534 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: There's a quote from Conley to that effect. Heinz recounting 535 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: heines is the assistant coach who works most closely with 536 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: the Edwards, who're counting a game in which Edwards got 537 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: on hot streak taking a bunch of bad shots Finch, 538 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: with Finch making sure Edwards heard about his terrible shots 539 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: selection after another make hindset, Edwards turned around, padded Finch 540 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: on the butt and kept moving. I'm in the middle, 541 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: like I always the string holding it together, heindseid, or 542 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm pushing away like y'all need to back up, give 543 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: each other space. 544 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 2: Let me handle that Finchy. I got him. 545 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: I get to see this tug of war, and it's 546 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: the funniest tug of war that I've ever seen. There's 547 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: more quotes from Conley. So the moral of the story 548 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: from heind is, you know, his mind goes back to 549 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: these stories and these quotes after Edward's reaction, and so 550 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: to come away from what you saw in the viral moment, 551 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: perhaps believing that there's a schism here, there's a problem here, 552 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: He's saying, well, you can't ever rule that out, because 553 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: things can escalate, but that if you get beyond the 554 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: viral moment and you find out about the relationship, you 555 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: find out how they've dealt with each other over a 556 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: period of time, you might get closer to the truth 557 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: and it might not be as dangerous as it looks 558 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: at a moment like that. I was gobsmack to find 559 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: out that, as I said, a viral moment, whether it be. 560 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: What Aunt had to say to Fincy. 561 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Or how nervously or enthusiastically the members of the US 562 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: men's hockey team laughed or chuckled at the misogynist joke. 563 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: From Donald J. Trump that there could be more to it, 564 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: It could. 565 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: Be context eye opening. The question is whether. 566 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Anybody will actually believe it, or more importantly, will they 567 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: be willing do they want to believe it? Because what 568 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: often happens and these situations is you make a decision 569 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: on what a viral moment represents, and you're locked in 570 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: because there's a bad guy, and there's often allegedly a 571 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: good guy, or maybe in some cases they're all bad guys. 572 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: But you've made the decision, Aha, I got it nailed. 573 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: And then you find out from people who do the 574 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: actual reporting, whether it be Heine regarding Anthony Edwards and 575 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Finci or Russo Radio and a few others showing up 576 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: to chat with members of the US women's Olympic hockey team, 577 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: and you find out that at the very least, even 578 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: if there was understandable in a case of a couple 579 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: of players angered about the exchange or about the reaction 580 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: from some of the US men's players. 581 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: That the truth is not quite as. 582 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: Stark regarding how those players feel about the members of 583 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: the men's team, or most of the members of the 584 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: men's team. 585 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 2: There's a good message there somewhere. I think. 586 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: But like I said, if you once you decide to 587 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: lock into a position that you think espouses the position 588 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: that you've had forever, and by the way, forever, I 589 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: mean thirty seconds after seeing the viral piece of audio 590 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: or video, you don't have time for that because that 591 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: gets in the way of how you want to think 592 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: of it. That gets in the way of you pounding 593 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: your fist about what this represents and what must be 594 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: done about it. Who is the player I can't remember 595 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: who plays for one of the Canadian teams who got 596 00:34:53,560 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up got criticized for staying in 597 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Lolida and partying with the team rather than getting back 598 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: to where he needs to be for a team that 599 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: was struggling to even get into the playoffs. See, that's it. 600 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: Those are individuals who made their decision on the basis 601 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: of that viral moment, and they're they're only interested in 602 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: context when it allows them to advance their point of 603 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: view on the story. Otherwise it's we don't need it. 604 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: We saw everything we needed to see, we heard the laughter. 605 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: It's all we need to know. And I would say 606 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: the same. The stories are apples and oranges because they're 607 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: involving different things, but it's the same in a sense, 608 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: because I think I don't think Hines saying. 609 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, sometimes what's. 610 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: The cliche if it if it walks like a duck, 611 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: talks like talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, 612 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: it's a duck, it's a duck, and sometimes it's a duck. 613 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: The viral moment holds up no question. But I dare 614 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: say Heinz got it right regarding the significance of whatever 615 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: that exchange was. Now is it worth watching? Can it escalate? Yes, 616 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think he probably got it right. I think 617 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: Russo got it right. And other reporters who said, well, okay, 618 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm giving everybody a chance to talk about this, and 619 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: this is what I'm hearing, which would seem to indicate that, 620 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: even if there was some definite discomfort. 621 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: That if you care about. 622 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: Context, the true proof of how these sorts of relationships 623 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: are set up and what people think of one another 624 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: generally aren't about a single moment like that. By the way, 625 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: when you're on the receiving end, it's not what you're 626 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: saying is Trump said it, but how you're reacting that 627 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: there's all sorts of evidence to indicate that actually there 628 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: was a great deal of mutual respect over a period 629 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: of time that was shown. 630 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: That's context. 631 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: But these are both I think good examples, one local, 632 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: one international, where we are reminded that for too many people, 633 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: like I said, who are dug in on what they 634 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: decide and what they feel like they have to believe 635 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: regarding a given story, that there's no room in that 636 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: world for great there's no room for any kind of context, 637 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: which I just I thought was rather interesting. You more 638 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: context from Finchy today, I'm your guy Colin cow Herd 639 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: show because they're in la oh oh. Can she usually 640 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: stops by the herd? Was he wearing a suit? I 641 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I didn't watch it, but I have 642 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: seen some clips and I'm going to try to find 643 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: the audio for the top five. Finchy, by the way, 644 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: not good enough to make the herd social media, you know, 645 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: video clips. Finchy's kind of like the bumper to bumper 646 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: of cafe and Twitter videos and not good enough to 647 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: make the clips or the feet because they got Byron Scott, 648 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: they got Rachel Nichols today. 649 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have they don't have Finchy. 650 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Yes, not enough to make the conference finals two years 651 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: in a row. Now when you're in Minnesota, yeah, you're 652 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: probably right. But here's what he had to say. Listen, 653 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: we're both fiery competitors. It's part of our relationships since 654 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: day one. We have a phenomenally talented player who makes 655 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: great shots. He's a closer and he's taken major strides 656 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: in that department and we're lucky to have him. This 657 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: is not the first game winning shot that he's made 658 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: for us this season. But he also has the burden 659 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: of responsibility of making his teammates better and making the 660 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: right play, and that's what we're preaching to him all 661 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: the time. He's really emotional. I'm emotional. We say these 662 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: things to each other and we move on. We don't 663 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: take it personally. I didn't think the comments after the 664 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: game were mean spirited. I thought he was just kind 665 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: of joking around. We just jab back and forth with 666 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: each other. These guys are super competitive and they're very prideful. 667 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to stoke that fire and sometimes it 668 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: comes back on you. 669 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: But that's part of it. 670 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: He could be just saying that, you know, damage control, 671 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: and it also could be true, right, I mean how 672 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: many times again I heard just within the last Would 673 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: it have been after the Blazers game. No, I don't 674 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: think so, but a game just within the last week 675 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: or two where I'm paraphrasing, but the quote was basically 676 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: from Ants saying Chris Finch is by far the best 677 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to me in terms of coaching. 678 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: Now again, is he just saying that? Maybe he is? 679 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: But and I'm not here to say there can't be 680 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, challenges that there can't be warning signs, right, 681 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: there can't be signals that all right behind the playfulness 682 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: what is there? 683 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: But here's the example. Here's the analogy. 684 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: Somebody wrote about this today. 685 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: And this goes back to. 686 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: The old quote about walk like a duck, talk like 687 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: a duck, quack like a duck. You can also sometimes 688 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: be fairly sure when it's not a duck. Example, do 689 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: you remember that that, speaking of viral moments, when Kirk 690 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: Cousins leaves the Vikings to victory, Y goes over to 691 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: the sidelines, does one of the old you like that? 692 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: And then shoves Mike Zimmer and then Zimmer shoves him back. 693 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: I think that was the sequence. Yes, now that could 694 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: be explained to way, well, how to context that looks 695 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: worse than it is of ducks, though in that case 696 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: there were there was a duct. 697 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: It was like no, no, no, no, no. 698 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: That that told us that was because there was no 699 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: better relationship than that. As we learned after the fact, 700 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: it was not a particularly harmonious or productive relationship. So 701 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: there are times where the viral moment can hold up, 702 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: but there are times when it doesn't begin to tell 703 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: the story. But again I'll say, we're not we don't 704 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: care about that. Once we've dug our feet in and 705 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: planted our flag about. 706 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: Whatever we're pissed off about. It's not I said this. 707 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: I think yesterday we talked about this, and enough said 708 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: tonight on Fox nine, nine point thirty, we're competing against 709 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: each other. We're on Fox nine and on Fox nine plus, 710 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: you can't miss us tonight nine, you can't get away 711 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: from us. It's it's the same, And I think Ruster 712 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: and I talked about yesterday. For the people dug in, 713 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: they have dismissed what most of the women players on 714 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: the US Olympic hockey team have said regarding this dust up. Oh, 715 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: they're just being nice. Classy of them to, you know, 716 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: to take the high road, of course, eliminating the possibility 717 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: that we should take them at their word that they're 718 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: saying what they believe, because I think it's rather patronizing 719 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: to sort of dismiss it as well. They're just that's 720 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, is be nice. What if 721 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: they're telling us what they believe. I don't think they're 722 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: afraid to speak up, nor should they be. But if 723 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: you're dug in, you're back. The viral moment is great. 724 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: Man. 725 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: Now if you're opposed to the viral moment, it's well, 726 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: what else was going on around that? Let me get 727 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: let's get let's try to be fair and get a 728 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: little context to that particular story. We're too far down 729 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: the road on so many things, but on this whole 730 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 1: issue about the hockey story and the controversy afterwards. People 731 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: are so far down the road, they are so dug 732 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: in whatever their position is, there's no turning back. There's 733 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: not any willingness to say, well, interesting, we did get 734 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: a little bit more information there. 735 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't like what I saw. 736 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: I would have preferred somebody say something more directly, but 737 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: and in fact, as Russo pointed out yesterday at least 738 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: one of the players, maybe two before the stupid joke, said, hey, 739 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: invite them. Before the joke was even a lot was 740 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: delivered by Shecky Green saying there were two for two 741 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: in goals. Hey exactly. That unfortunately does not count. Well, 742 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: I like this quote if it's accurate. Paul Simon and 743 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: the boxer. People believe what they want to believe and 744 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 1: they disregard the rest. That's very well said. It's another 745 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: way of saying they hear what they want, very very 746 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: well said. Well said, what time we got? Well, you 747 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: know what, maybe I'll save this. We got guestling it's 748 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: before thirty. Lavelle is at five thirty. I promised to 749 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: get into speaking of controversy and controversial relationships and what's 750 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: going on between a player and a coach or a 751 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: player and a team. I want to save that maybe 752 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: for the top of the hour, because it involves a 753 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: former Minnesota Timberwell player and I think it's it's quite interesting. 754 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,959 Speaker 1: Five h seven guy writes, do you actually talk about 755 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: sports or is it all politics? Now? Well, I appreciate 756 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 1: you joining the show now, but the first forty five 757 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: minutes of this show were about the Minnesota Wild maybe 758 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: being ready to take the step to truly nurture the 759 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: notion that we are the state of hockey coming out 760 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: of the break with a terrific victory on the road 761 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: against the Lanch. Perhaps you missed it. That was the 762 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: first forty five minutes of today's program. I think that's 763 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: sports relating, But perhaps you were busy, which is fine. 764 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: I would suggest after the show go back and podcast it, 765 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: and perhaps you will then be reassured that we are 766 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: indeed quite capable of mixing in plenty and plenty of sports, 767 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: as we did during the entire Winter Olympics. But I 768 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: had no intention. If it was up to me, we 769 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone as deep into the political angle regarding 770 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: this story. But that's what other people have forced upon us. 771 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: So therefore we're left with two choices. We can ignore it, 772 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: which is a choice say I'm not going to mess 773 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: with there's no there there, there's not enough there there, or. 774 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: To push back a little bit. 775 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: And in this case, as I said, half of this 776 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: discussion had nothing to do with politics. Even the last 777 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: ten minutes had to do with Anthony Edwards and whether 778 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: there's any reason to be concerned the way some people 779 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: are nationally regarding the comments that Anthony Edwards made to 780 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: the head coach that also as sports because that involves 781 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: the current condition of your Minnesota Timberwolves club as well. 782 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: Let's pause for the top of the hour break and 783 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: we'll get back to other story that is worth a 784 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: minute or two. I do have a couple of a 785 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: section stories though I do want to include. And what 786 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: was the other big one that I wanted to get to, Well, 787 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: we'll find out. I'll save it when we have a 788 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: little bit more time. Bratchel on Brian kafean tech fline 789 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: is open at six four six eighty six