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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, it is the After Show. What up, guys?

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Speaker 1: Justin here.

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Speaker 2: It is a Monday, December one, after a long Thanksgiving weekend.

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Speaker 2: December one, Whinnie's birthday. Happy birthday to Winnie. I'll always

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Speaker 2: remember December first as her birthday. Hope she is doing well.

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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to her recently. I know her podcast

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Speaker 2: dropped today, so shout out to her and happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I remember December first, it is her birthday. And then

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Speaker 2: Gandhi who used to wear a car, and Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: have the same birthday. I always mess this up. December

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Speaker 2: tenth or twelfth, Oh my god, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's.

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Speaker 2: December tenth anyway, or twelfth, I don't know. But December birthdays,

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Speaker 2: and then Billy's birthday, of.

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Speaker 1: Course is Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm here. I'm checking in. I had a

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Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving weekend. I eat a lot of food, I

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Speaker 2: watched a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of stranger things. I had fun, I let loose. It

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Speaker 1: was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: A lot of family time, which you know isn't always

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Speaker 2: the most fun when you have children, but you know

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Speaker 2: you love the little buggers.

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Speaker 1: We will get turkey toss. We already talked about that.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, and then Thanksgiving we went to my wife's

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Speaker 2: family's house in bill Ricker, her Auntie Lisa and Uncle Louis.

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Speaker 2: That was great watching football. My dad came and the

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Speaker 2: food was amazing. I brought that Ginger Betty's basket that

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Speaker 2: listener Shannon sent. That was a big hit. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, the cookies are fantastic. We brought the basket there,

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Speaker 2: shared some of the cookies, then brought some home and

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Speaker 2: I still have more at the house which I have

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Speaker 2: to lay off from. But that was good on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, I worked out in the morning. My gym,

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Speaker 2: one of my gyms that I go to drive in Salem,

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire, had a kid's fitness class. I brought my

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Speaker 2: son there. He got to go around the gym and

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Speaker 2: interest in working out, so that was good. And then

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Speaker 2: Friday night we went to the Christmas Lights in Lichfield,

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. I didn't even know this place existed. It's

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Speaker 2: where they have Spooky World every year, which I've been to.

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Speaker 2: But it's really really cool. It's a it's a mile

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Speaker 2: walkthrough very very elaborate. It's on the same path that

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Speaker 2: It was so cold, but it was really good. It

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Speaker 2: was really it was really fun. I'm glad we went.

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Speaker 2: I posted a picture on my Instagram of my wife

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Speaker 2: and I and in one of the places.

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Speaker 1: But it was good. It was good. And then what

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Speaker 1: do I do Saturday? Saturday?

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Speaker 2: My wife took the kids to the parade, so I

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Speaker 2: got to go to the gym for a while, and

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Speaker 2: then uh, I had some barbecue Saturday night and Sunday

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Speaker 2: in all a good weekend. You know, we're going into

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Speaker 2: the holidays. It's it's crazy time here at work, it's

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Speaker 2: crazy time at home. It's just busy, man, it's busy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Super grateful, you know, I put I posted that, you know,

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Speaker 2: set of pictures on Instagram because every Thanksgiving I always

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Speaker 2: share about this. I used to go to a recovery

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Speaker 2: meeting every Wednesday before Thanksgiving for years and years and years.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen anymore, but it was a tradition that

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Speaker 2: I would share that story every single year that you know,

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Speaker 2: I remember, like many holidays were ruined because of the

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving in particular, you know, I had a restraining order

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Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed there.

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Speaker 2: You know, my dad had had tried everything, but I

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Speaker 2: And you know, in the recovery like literature they talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, addiction, you reach animalistic levels. And I felt

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Speaker 2: my Thanksgiving mail. It was just awful. So I think

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Speaker 2: about every Thanksgiving and it just makes me, you know,

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Speaker 2: that much more grateful to be there for my family,

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Speaker 2: and you know, grateful that I built this life, which

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Speaker 2: you know, all starts with a day clean.

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Speaker 1: Man, That's what it starts with. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a simple, yet it's so effective thing, right,

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Speaker 2: no matter how long I've been and clean. And this

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Speaker 2: that aren't in recovery that don't really understand it. It's

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Speaker 2: a one day at a time commitment for life.

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Speaker 1: Right. It's an incurable disease.

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Speaker 2: So every day I wake up and I make a

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Speaker 2: there's all these this work that goes into it, you know,

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Speaker 2: having other people that suffer with the same disease, doing

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Speaker 2: things like praying or meditating, and writing and reaching out

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Speaker 2: to people and talking about how you feel. All these

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Speaker 1: And these are things that I do.

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Speaker 2: You know, to this day, you know, pretty much all

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Speaker 2: the people in my life are in recovery. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, my wife celebrated eighteen years on November twenty seventh,

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Speaker 2: which was also insane, insane. I remember I we had

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Speaker 1: And I've told that story before.

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Speaker 2: But when we reconnected, we had started dating a little

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Speaker 2: And I dropped her off at Danvers Detox and she

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Speaker 2: She always puts up a really like impactful post on

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Speaker 2: that because for both of us, for anybody that's in recovery,

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Speaker 1: It makes me.

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Speaker 2: Grateful that I got it, and then I continued to

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Speaker 2: get it one day at a time, and and I

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Speaker 2: get to enjoy these Thanksgiving holidays my family. It's it's

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Speaker 2: it's really uh, it's really special. So I hope it

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Speaker 2: You can always join the after show. You can leave

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Speaker 2: a talk back about anything that I share about I'm

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Speaker 2: always talking about different things. You can leave a talk

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Speaker 2: back and I will get to it later on. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Justin I am listening to the after show. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and I cannot believe you've only seen one toy story.

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Speaker 1: Please please please watch that with your kids. That it

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Speaker 1: is so great.

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Speaker 2: It's it's so great. Think number three is probably my favorite,

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Speaker 2: but it's really really great. I don't know, maybe you

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Speaker 2: your son's overstaf. I'll watch it with Gemma. I think

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Speaker 2: I've only seen one. She's getting to the age where

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Speaker 2: K Pop Demon Hunters a little bit, but she likes

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Speaker 2: just the music more. But she's getting to that age

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Speaker 2: where she is gonna watch movies. So obviously Stranger Things.

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Speaker 2: I loved. My son and I watched it. We turned

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Speaker 2: it on eight o'clock on Wednesday, waited all day for it.

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Speaker 2: Netflix crash took like thirty minutes to get it to

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Speaker 2: work again, which was insane. But love, love, love love,

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Speaker 2: love the new season, Love the four episodes, love the

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give anything away, but it's just

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Speaker 2: a fantastic show. So we're looking forward to Christmas. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure my son will watch these ones over and over again.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm back this week. Nurse Fiona is coming

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Speaker 2: in on Thursday. I'm going to see her tomorrow, so

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Speaker 2: we should do this with Whinnie was here because Winnie

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Speaker 2: and I both work with Nurse Fiona. Winnie more so

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Speaker 2: because she did all like the you know stuff, other

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Speaker 2: stuff I did, laser hair removal. I got some bowtox

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Speaker 2: from her. But I'm going tomorrow hopefully with the weather

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Speaker 2: with my wife, We're gonna do like a couple's day there.

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Speaker 2: It's actually really cool. So she'll be in on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So if you have any questions for Nurse Fiona, anything MEDSPA,

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Speaker 2: weight loss.

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Speaker 1: That's a big, big topic.

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Speaker 2: That's a big thing that people are talking about, is

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Speaker 2: you know the weight loss that program she offers, botox,

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Speaker 2: laser hair removal, and on all the facial stuff that

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Speaker 2: I really don't understand. So if you could please help

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Speaker 2: me out and leave it talk back with a question

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Speaker 2: about the facials because I don't understand them at all.

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Speaker 2: Hydro facials, I don't understand that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But love Nurse Fiona.

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Speaker 2: She'll be in on Thursday, so get your talkbacks in

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk before that though tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I peace