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Speaker 2: Get it going on this Monday night. If it's Monday,
Speaker 2: it must be Bengals Line. Three hours of conversation, Kevin
Speaker 2: your way. We're gonna break down what transpired yesterday and
Speaker 2: we'll set you up for the bye week for the Bengals.
Speaker 2: We do it on two stations tonight, seven hundred WLW
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Speaker 2: away on seven hundred. For UC basketball, let's get to it.
Speaker 2: David was a well, let's see in what order. It
Speaker 2: was a wildly entertaining game that had it all, that
Speaker 2: put us on an emotional roller coaster that was ultimately
Speaker 2: frustrating and disappointing. And I'll defer to Zach who said, simply,
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, because I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people at that moment we've been waking up this morning,
Speaker 2: we're saying I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one of those guys. I'm waking up raising
Speaker 3: my hand, can't believe it. I mean, you talk about
Speaker 3: a lot of things happening during the course of a
Speaker 3: football game, you know, some very very good and some
Speaker 3: very very ugly. That was a roller coaster, that was
Speaker 3: a wild ride yesterday. Man, the Chicago Bears, you have
Speaker 3: the two quarterbacks played so well. I mean they both
Speaker 3: had a quarterback rating of over one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 3: point four. For Joe Flacco, he completed almost seventy five
Speaker 3: percent of his passes, almost three out of four, four
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns, and then two costly interceptions.
Speaker 3: Williams was even better. I mean two hundred and ninety yards,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, no interception, quarterback rating of over one fourteen.
Speaker 3: That's what the Chicago Bears felt like they had drafted
Speaker 3: as the first pick in the draft. That's what he
Speaker 3: showed he could do at USC when he won a
Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy. So their quarterback ended up winning the football
Speaker 3: game with his performance and Unflacco, and unfortunately, Joe Flacco's
Speaker 3: performance came up just a little bit short, and as
Speaker 3: a result, it was a losing performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So many times it was referenced by players after
Speaker 2: the game the word finish. Yeah, boy, I think many
Speaker 2: if you allowed yourself. At forty nine seconds, the touchdown
Speaker 2: hits it and I'm immediately thinking, holy cow, they have
Speaker 2: found a way to somehow win this game. They're gonna
Speaker 2: go onto the by with this momentum. You're gonna have
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh coming out of the buy and everybody's gonna be
Speaker 2: feeling good. And then four play seventy two yards and
Speaker 2: thirty seven seconds and it was just a punch to the.
Speaker 3: Gut big time. Seventy two yards and thirty seven seconds. Man,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's hard to comprehend. That's hard to
Speaker 3: do at any level of football. And the fact that
Speaker 3: it happens to the Cincinnati Bengals defense, I mean, Al
Speaker 3: Golden has to be tearing his hair out by the roots,
Speaker 3: there's no question about that. And everybody has to be
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the football. Offensively, let's face it,
Speaker 3: you know, you put up the yards they put up,
Speaker 3: you know, over over five hundred yards offense and over
Speaker 3: round forty points high thirties. You expect to win that
Speaker 3: football game. I mean there's no question that you think, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is going our way today. Not quite.
Speaker 2: Let's get reaction to what transpired. Immediate reaction after the game.
Speaker 2: Here is David with the coach Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Tear with Bengals head coach Zach Taylor and coach appreciate
Speaker 3: you joining us like you always do. It's it's not
Speaker 3: easy after your your team goes out and gives everything
Speaker 3: they've got, poor is their heart and soul into a
Speaker 3: football game like you guys do as well, you and
Speaker 3: your coaches stop putting together the game plan and just
Speaker 3: fall a little bit short, high scoring affair.
Speaker 4: Did you expect that.
Speaker 5: Expected to win. We're trying to find a way to win.
Speaker 5: Everything we put into this week, expected to walk off
Speaker 5: this field today with a win, and it's just that's
Speaker 5: the way it fell today for us, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: We just in a lot of ways made the plays
Speaker 5: we needed to make and then in other ways other phases,
Speaker 5: we just we have to find a way. Someone has
Speaker 5: to step up, someone's got to get their hand on
Speaker 5: the ball, someone's got to get a turnover. And it
Speaker 5: just hasn't gone our way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned some things that you know, I was
Speaker 3: thinking about. Defensively, if you can get a key turnover
Speaker 3: at a most opportune time, stop a drive or knock
Speaker 3: the ball down, pass deflection, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 3: it just seems like the defense is just one step short.
Speaker 3: On many occasions it's been.
Speaker 5: Close, you know. And and again we've can't give up
Speaker 5: the points. We've given up the zero turnovers. You know,
Speaker 5: that's a big deal. With Chicago's and their wins. They've
Speaker 5: been plus four, plus three, plus three, they've always won
Speaker 5: the turnover battle, and today they finished plus three. You know,
Speaker 5: they got three from us, none none the other way.
Speaker 5: So we got to find a way to get that fixed.
Speaker 4: Someone.
Speaker 5: Someone's got to get it done. Someone, the player's got
Speaker 5: to step up somewhere and make a play. Were working
Speaker 5: night and day trying to try to figure out an
Speaker 5: answer to give these guys and help them, and we're
Speaker 5: going to continue that.
Speaker 3: During the by week, they had sixteen takeaways coming in,
Speaker 3: so that makes it nineteen. After this football game, there
Speaker 3: were plus eight coming in a turnover ratio that makes
Speaker 3: them plus eleven.
Speaker 4: Those numbers are staggering.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of them is a hellmer at the end
Speaker 5: of the game. I don't put much stock into that,
Speaker 5: but you know, it's tough, it's it's that's that's a
Speaker 5: challenging part of the game. We got to figure out
Speaker 5: a way to get some turnovers off people.
Speaker 3: How about physically, do you feel like your football team
Speaker 3: came out of the out of the game fairly healthy,
Speaker 3: nothing more than just the typical knicks, pumps and bruises.
Speaker 5: Well, see, I think somaj Pirran, I know, we got
Speaker 5: a high ankle spring, you know, on a hip drop tackle,
Speaker 5: so that was unfortunate. But other than that, these guys
Speaker 5: are I mean, emotionally, they left it all on the field.
Speaker 6: I mean, they gave everything. It's it's.
Speaker 5: I feel for him because they're they're fighting for a win,
Speaker 5: They're trying to give everything they can to win, and
Speaker 5: and we just these last two weeks in particular, falling short.
Speaker 5: And I'm sick for these coaches, these players that that
Speaker 5: put in this work and to have these heartbreaking results.
Speaker 6: We just we got to find a way to find
Speaker 6: a win.
Speaker 3: Here. You're right, that was a hip drop tackle on
Speaker 3: someow's your p Ryan playing and simple, I mean What
Speaker 3: the hell is the guy looking at? Why can't he
Speaker 3: throw his fight?
Speaker 5: I don't think they are destructed to call it. I
Speaker 5: think is probably where they're at and they just find
Speaker 5: you afterwards. But that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3: How do you keep them focused? How do you keep them,
Speaker 3: you know, in in gear, in stride to take on
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steels after the buy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's that's leadership, you know. It's it is
Speaker 5: easy when we've won ten games in a row and
Speaker 5: been to a championship game and things are going good.
Speaker 5: That the hard part of leadership is when you're facing
Speaker 5: some real diversity.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 5: I'm going to embrace that, and I'm gonna find guys
Speaker 5: in the locker room that embrace that as well and
Speaker 5: don't want to hang their heads, don't want to point fingers.
Speaker 5: Negativity can creep in if you let it from from
Speaker 5: people that tend to do that, and so we're not
Speaker 5: gonna let that happen. We're just gonna keep fighting. I know,
Speaker 5: I got a locker room guys that well and fight.
Speaker 5: I just watched it on the field. It's it's I
Speaker 5: just watched it. I watched those guys fight on every
Speaker 5: single snap, and we're gonna continue.
Speaker 3: To get that. And finally, finally, you do have a
Speaker 3: bunch of guys in the locker room that are leaders.
Speaker 3: You know that they aren't gonna quit, they aren't gonna
Speaker 3: spit the bit. They're gonna give you every ounce after
Speaker 3: they've got every single snap a very single football game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you've been a big part of getting those guys
Speaker 3: in the locker room. How do you feel about the
Speaker 3: rest of the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a lot left to play for and
Speaker 5: there's there's eight games left. We got to find a
Speaker 5: way to just get that first win and build off that,
Speaker 5: and there's still opportunity right in front of us. I
Speaker 5: expects us to take advantage of it. I expects us
Speaker 5: to come back to work ready to find a way
Speaker 5: to do that. And that's that's all we can do
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: Appreciate your coach as always, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate Zach Taylor after the game, and now, Dave, with
Speaker 2: eight games left. There's still eight game and he's saying
Speaker 2: that out loud. There's a lot of games left. But
Speaker 2: in addition to the x's and o's challenge, there's got
Speaker 2: to be somewhat of a challenge for Zach to keep
Speaker 2: everybody on the same page and headed in the right
Speaker 2: direction and not scattering at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it scattering is a good word for it. And
Speaker 3: then you know, you get into the danger zone of
Speaker 3: finger pointing, you know. I mean the offense here recently
Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco at the helm and it's incredible what
Speaker 3: a quarterback over forty years old is doing what he's
Speaker 3: doing for his offensive football team. He has ignited them,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a spark, he's lifted them. And
Speaker 3: the fact that they're playing well, I mean they're inconsistent.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably the biggest way to sum up
Speaker 3: the entire football team. Inconsistency. Sometimes play very very well,
Speaker 3: you know for a quarter ye or for a half,
Speaker 3: or for a series or a multiple series, and then
Speaker 3: just goes away. Falls apart. Same thing defensively, although much less,
Speaker 3: they haven't played as is consistently well. Uh, they've had
Speaker 3: more poor performances on a series by series basis, on
Speaker 3: a quarter by quarter basis than the than the the
Speaker 3: offense has had. But man, I think inconsistency all the
Speaker 3: way around offense, defense, and even Darren Simmons special teams
Speaker 3: I mean they'll they'll make plays and then uh, they'll
Speaker 3: spit the bit. You know, they'll they'll give up a
Speaker 3: big play, they'll give up a return that is costly
Speaker 3: and and uh flips field position and is a big
Speaker 3: factor in the outcome of the football game. So they
Speaker 3: got to get it turned around. They gotta get it
Speaker 3: turned around quickly because they're just about at the halfway
Speaker 3: point of the season right now, and you know they're
Speaker 3: running out of time. Is the way, the best way
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 2: And to your point, something good will start to happen,
Speaker 2: and then it's one play, one mistake, whether it's a
Speaker 2: Dimitri's night junior illegal contact wipes out a sack, or
Speaker 2: it's Yoshi who steps out of the back of the
Speaker 2: end zone and the next plays the interception, Orlando Brown
Speaker 2: first in goal, the personal foul, the the off sides
Speaker 2: on the field. Just their their margin of air is
Speaker 2: so small. Any mistake becomes magnified and it just becomes
Speaker 2: really difficult to overcome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, I mean, their margin fair is zero.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's like they they they have to
Speaker 3: play the perfect game, and then there's pressure that comes
Speaker 3: along with that, and then the self inflicted pressure that
Speaker 3: comes along with that. You don't want to be the guy.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be the guy that cost your
Speaker 3: football team a game. You don't want to be the
Speaker 3: guy that that that cost your football team. You know,
Speaker 3: a series that was going oh so well. You know,
Speaker 3: seven players in the series were great, and then the
Speaker 3: eighth play you screwed up and and then the whole
Speaker 3: thing falls apart. Yeah, it's a it can be a
Speaker 3: it can be a cruel game when you're when you're struggling,
Speaker 3: like the Cincinnati Bengals are struggling. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: go home and be looking at the ceiling not and
Speaker 3: not not being able to sleep at night or close
Speaker 3: your eyes and you're still looking at the ceiling, you know,
Speaker 3: not being able to sleep at night. So I'm sure
Speaker 3: there that's the thing. There are a lot of guys
Speaker 3: in that locker room. And we'll go in the locker
Speaker 3: room after the game and there are a guy a
Speaker 3: care you know there. It's it's like a it's like
Speaker 3: a awakened there. You know. It's man, You're like you're
Speaker 3: walking into somebody that just passed and you're you're paying
Speaker 3: the respects to that person.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: It's a It can make a lot of money doing this,
Speaker 3: and there's no doubt. I mean, it's a great way
Speaker 3: to make a living, but it can it can it
Speaker 3: can break your heart for sure.
Speaker 2: When we continue, we'll talk about the day turned in
Speaker 2: by the forty year old Joe Flacco, an unbelievable day,
Speaker 2: and based on the circumstances of the week, even more unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Will do that as we continue on with Bengals Line
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Speaker 2: yesterday thirty one of forty seven, four hundred and seventy yards,
Speaker 2: four touchdowns, quarterback one nine point four. Here's QB one
Speaker 2: after the game where I'm.
Speaker 4: Normally not even thinking about it. You just flick it.
Speaker 7: And there was something about those throws that I actually
Speaker 7: struggled with the most today.
Speaker 6: But there's on you line up for a game like
Speaker 6: did you ever been a part of a game like
Speaker 6: that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when you've been.
Speaker 7: I mean, we beat Cleveland a couple of years ago
Speaker 7: when I was with the Jets in a similar situation,
Speaker 7: Nick Chubb Bran ran in for a touchdown to go
Speaker 7: up by two scores.
Speaker 4: They missed the extra point.
Speaker 7: We went down and scored with under two minutes left,
Speaker 7: got the on side kick, went down and scored again.
Speaker 7: Now when we scored, there was probably a little bit
Speaker 7: less time on the closs. They still they still did
Speaker 7: have a chance. They might have completed a ball to
Speaker 7: midfield or something like that, but they didn't have quite
Speaker 7: quite as much time.
Speaker 4: They probably didn't have any time malths.
Speaker 7: We ended up winning the game, so very very similar. Well,
Speaker 7: it's tough, you know, I mean, but you know, anytime
Speaker 7: you're on the losing end.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 7: I think when you've when you've played a lot of games,
Speaker 7: it's not the you lose doesn't make it any worse necessarily,
Speaker 7: you know. I think you learn that these these games
Speaker 7: come down to the last minute, and you gotta be
Speaker 7: ready for anything, and you know, a win to win
Speaker 7: a loss is loss.
Speaker 3: Did you start feeling that hope in that game late.
Speaker 7: In obviously when I think when you go down and
Speaker 7: then you think what you have is a touchdown and no,
Speaker 7: it's incomplete, and then you throw an interception, and obviously
Speaker 7: at the time you thought they scored a touchdown, that
Speaker 7: was probably that that at that point you probably weren't
Speaker 7: thinking too much about it. But then when we went
Speaker 7: down and scored for that. You know, when you when
Speaker 7: you go down and you score and you make it
Speaker 7: a one score game, I mean, anything can happen on
Speaker 7: TI kicks. Not very likely, but who knows.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I think we were down by fourteen and we were
Speaker 7: going out there and I said, hey, listen, crazier things
Speaker 7: have happened, like to somebody a coach, and I was
Speaker 7: standing right there.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it was a tight ends coach, and.
Speaker 7: But I think I think, you know, after maybe there's
Speaker 7: a little bit of hope after you score that first one,
Speaker 7: but you're probably at that point. I mean, I think
Speaker 7: fans are going through the same thing like as as
Speaker 7: players are at that point. So whatever whatever you were
Speaker 7: feeling and the fans are feeling, we're probably feeling the
Speaker 7: same thing.
Speaker 3: You know, you surprised when you saw the number.
Speaker 7: You know, I knew we had been climbing up there
Speaker 7: at some point because we got so many possessions and
Speaker 7: we were really throwing the ball you know, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of the time towards the end of the game, just
Speaker 4: the nature of the game. You don't know how high
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 7: I mean, I've never thrown for four hundred in the
Speaker 7: NFL in my career, so it's the first time.
Speaker 8: The way that the last three games, how do you
Speaker 8: keep the frustration.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from seeping among.
Speaker 8: The offensive players and the way the games are gone, So.
Speaker 4: What will we play nine games?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 4: We have eight left.
Speaker 7: If you don't keep your head down and and and
Speaker 7: and go to work, then it's going to be a long,
Speaker 7: miserable season for you.
Speaker 4: You can't get distracted, uh, and you can't.
Speaker 7: You're going to be emotional after a game, but at
Speaker 7: some point you got to let that go. This is
Speaker 7: our profession, you know, we do this for at a living,
Speaker 7: and we take pride in doing it. And I hope
Speaker 7: that you would continue to take pride in doing what
Speaker 7: you do for a living, no matter what the outcome is.
Speaker 7: And yeah, I mean maybe that's easier said than done,
Speaker 7: but that's what you got to do because you know
Speaker 7: this leg.
Speaker 4: Will eat you up and it will not be it
Speaker 4: will not be good. I'm sure.
Speaker 7: I'm sure Baltimore isn't sitting there, you know, tucking their
Speaker 7: tail between their legs. With the record they have, They're
Speaker 7: probably motivated and excited about the opportunity, opportunity that they
Speaker 7: have going forward.
Speaker 4: I don't think we can look at it any different.
Speaker 2: And Dave, all things considered, forty years old, shoulder joint sprain,
Speaker 2: limited practice, just an absolutely heroic, gutty performance yesterday from Joe.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great way to put it. Gotty.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was courageous. He he laid it all
Speaker 3: out there for his football team. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: And I think in talking with some of the guys
Speaker 3: in the locker room after the game, they realized that
Speaker 3: they realized the sacrifice that Joe Flackell made. They realized
Speaker 3: that he was playing in pain and that he wanted
Speaker 3: to go out there and win this football game desperately
Speaker 3: for the sake of his football team, for the sake
Speaker 3: of his teammates, The coaching staff, the head coach Zach Taylor,
Speaker 3: the coordinators Dan Pitcher. I mean they put a lot
Speaker 3: into this football game. This was, you know, a targeted game.
Speaker 3: This is almost they treated it almost like preparation wise,
Speaker 3: almost like for a playoff game. I mean they were
Speaker 3: going to leave no stone unturned in terms of putting
Speaker 3: into the game plan what they felt they needed to
Speaker 3: do to beat the Chicago Bears, and they came up short.
Speaker 2: Let's hit our bottom of a r time out well transition.
Speaker 2: You see basketball coming up on seven hundred WLW. We
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Speaker 2: defensive side of that. You'll hear from Dax Hill and
Speaker 2: so much more as we roll on with Bengals Line
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Speaker 2: out with Dave Lap them. We've got a lot to
Speaker 2: sort through between now and nine o'clock tonight. We've got
Speaker 2: a big pile of stuff to sort through on the
Speaker 2: defensive side, of things, Dave lap a man. The numbers
Speaker 2: they make your eyes go cross eye. Thirty first downs,
Speaker 2: allowed five hundred and seventy six total yards, two ninety
Speaker 2: three through the air, two eighty three in the ground,
Speaker 2: seven and a half yards to carry. David, it's the
Speaker 2: eighth straight game allowing at least twenty seven points, their
Speaker 2: fifth game allowing thirty or more points. It was just
Speaker 2: it was a dam that has broken and there's just
Speaker 2: no ability to stop it right now for this defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you say, the dam is cracked
Speaker 3: and broken and they can't fix it. You know, they
Speaker 3: can't find a way to repair it. How many straight
Speaker 3: games allowing twenty eight points?
Speaker 2: Seven would be eight straight games at least twenty seven points.
Speaker 3: Jeez, eight straight games allowing least twenty seven points. That's uh,
Speaker 3: that's mind boggling. That that is Uh, that's almost impossible
Speaker 3: to do. You have to try hard to be that bad.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: And considered theave. They went through the much talked about
Speaker 2: defensive players only meeting last week and they did some
Speaker 2: some different type of technique drills prior to practice tackling wise,
Speaker 2: and yet there there doesn't seem to be a magic
Speaker 2: bullet that that is capable of fixing the tackling woves
Speaker 2: of this team. I think Next Gen had them unofficially
Speaker 2: for fifteen tackles missed, allowing extra one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: three yards after the initial contact. That's a mind boggling now,
Speaker 2: but that's a football field and a third after miss tackles.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, you know. And you give up over five
Speaker 3: hundred yards as a defensive football team, and over one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty of those because you gave them those
Speaker 3: yards by missing missing tackles. And that's not to say
Speaker 3: you know, miss tackles that led to scores. You know
Speaker 3: they were guilty of that infraction as well. Man, I
Speaker 3: don't know, what do you What do you do? If
Speaker 3: you're al Golden, you say, hey, let's scrimmage guys. You know,
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta get after this. We have to
Speaker 3: get in a mindset where physicality is the name of
Speaker 3: the game. We have to go and and when we
Speaker 3: set foot on that football field, we have to believe
Speaker 3: that we're the most physical unit out there. One on one,
Speaker 3: every guy you match up against, you have to beat
Speaker 3: your guy. You have to defeat him at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. You have to defeat your guy in space,
Speaker 3: you have to make open field tackles. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what you do. Do you beat up
Speaker 3: the football team? You don't have that many guys. I mean,
Speaker 3: do you take a chance and risk and injury to
Speaker 3: somebody by scrimmaging people? I mean, you know, back in
Speaker 3: the back in the day, there was the punishment theory.
Speaker 3: You know, you didn't do well, you're gonna get punished,
Speaker 3: and and you're gonna gonna hope you that that next
Speaker 3: game comes sooner than it really is. You don't want
Speaker 3: to go through this, day after day after day, what
Speaker 3: the coaches are making you go through. But hopefully Al
Speaker 3: Golden has a solution because right now it just does
Speaker 3: not look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Bears through everything and the kitchen sink
Speaker 2: at I mean yesterday, four different gadgets, gadget trick plays.
Speaker 2: Although it's funny, and talking with some people who cover
Speaker 2: the Bears, they say, Ben Johnson, it's just it's the
Speaker 2: way he is. He doesn't consider him trick plays. He
Speaker 2: considers it a variety of variation of his offense. And man,
Speaker 2: it had to be, it had to have the head spinning,
Speaker 2: especially if you're a young linebacker on this Bengals team
Speaker 2: right now, a rookie linebacker. Stuff like that was going
Speaker 2: on yesterday. I just had to have your spinning around
Speaker 2: like the Exorcist.
Speaker 3: Yeah really, I mean you're you're spinning like a top
Speaker 3: you know. You know. Ben Johnson is creative and the
Speaker 3: best way to attack a defense. Paul Brown always felt
Speaker 3: this way is to run multiple plays out of the
Speaker 3: same look. You know, maybe change the formation just a
Speaker 3: little bit at the last minute when the defense feels
Speaker 3: like they're they're set in terms of what you're lining
Speaker 3: up formationally, and they have a good idea what play
Speaker 3: you're gonna run, and then at the very last minute
Speaker 3: you change it and kind of, you know, homeboy, what
Speaker 3: do I do now? Put him in a little bit
Speaker 3: of a panic. Ben Johnson is that kind of guy.
Speaker 3: He's very, very creative with the way he looks at
Speaker 3: the game of football, and you know, he's just he's
Speaker 3: not gonna just line up and say it's me and
Speaker 3: you and we're gonna go on a back alley and
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a brawl. We're gonna have a footbawl. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's that's not the way he looks at the game
Speaker 3: of football. He looks at it as I've got a
Speaker 3: very very high football IQ. I know that everybody else
Speaker 3: knows that, and I'm gonna show it.
Speaker 2: The defense in the crosshairs right now, certainly. And and
Speaker 2: let's add in some perspective on what is transpiring on
Speaker 2: that side of the ball. Here's Dax Hill with Dan
Speaker 2: Horde after the game.
Speaker 8: Dax, I'm not sure what to say. I feel like
Speaker 8: I've seen it all at this point. You probably feel
Speaker 8: the same way. What's going through your mind right now?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 10: No words, I mean, I don't really have a whole
Speaker 10: lot to say about that. It's just unfortunate to be
Speaker 10: on that the wrong side of the ball.
Speaker 8: But yeah, what would you identify as the biggest problems
Speaker 8: that are happening on the defensive side right now?
Speaker 10: Just not getting stops when we're supposed to be getting stops,
Speaker 10: just being on the field too long, and when you're
Speaker 10: on the field for that long, something's bound to happen.
Speaker 10: So just got to get off the field early.
Speaker 8: When the Bengals scored to take the lead with fifty
Speaker 8: four seconds to go, those are the kinds of situations
Speaker 8: that you probably love to have the opportunity to get
Speaker 8: the final stop to clinch the win. What was what
Speaker 8: were you thinking as you guys took the field defensively
Speaker 8: under those circumstances.
Speaker 10: Just keeping keep the ball and bounds. I think they
Speaker 10: only had one time out and we just didn't do that.
Speaker 8: So what was your view of the final touchdown and
Speaker 8: what went wrong?
Speaker 4: I didn't really see it.
Speaker 10: I was on a blitch but just turned around saw
Speaker 10: the guy score.
Speaker 8: So it seemed like there was decent pressure at times
Speaker 8: on Caleb Williams. You forced him to scramble around quite
Speaker 8: a bit, unfortunately, just could not either sack him or
Speaker 8: prevent him from scrambling. Did you view that as a
Speaker 8: you know, a big key to why the Bears were
Speaker 8: able to score what they did?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you can't get Caleb
Speaker 10: Williams down, then I mean it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 10: lone day. You know, he's you know, dynamic out of
Speaker 10: the pocket, and we didn't really contain him as much
Speaker 10: as we wanted to, so, uh, you know, the result
Speaker 10: as the result.
Speaker 8: I know it's hard for the guys on defense to
Speaker 8: see the offense put up the point totals they've been
Speaker 8: putting up and not come away with a win. What
Speaker 8: is that feeling like for everybody on this side of
Speaker 8: the locker room?
Speaker 10: This unfortunate. There's just no words. I mean, we put
Speaker 10: in the work, you know, throughout the entire weekend. We
Speaker 10: just don't get the result on Sunday. It's just you
Speaker 10: put in all that work and this is just what
Speaker 10: it is.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's just hard.
Speaker 8: Feel like a buy is needed.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jaxon Dax Hill after the game yesterday, and boy
Speaker 2: Dave one final thought on the defense in this segment.
Speaker 2: I look at their running numbers thirty seven carries, two
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three yards, seven point six of Carrey.
Speaker 2: Those in looking at them on paper, those look like
Speaker 2: college numbers. That that's something like a running offense in
Speaker 2: college football would pile up in a game to carry it.
Speaker 2: And I remember when DeAndre Swift was ruled out on Friday,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, well, maybe the Bengals get a little
Speaker 2: bit of break here. DeAndre Swift's not going to play
Speaker 2: and a seventh round pick named Manongaui rushes for big
Speaker 2: time yarders to bring up a practiced guy, squad guy.
Speaker 2: It was like who wants the football? There was There
Speaker 2: were yards to be had yesterday on the ground.
Speaker 3: No question. I mean, manung guy one hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: six yards averaged six point eight to carry, unbelievable, had
Speaker 3: a thirty nine yard saunter.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: The other thing is Caleb Williams created an extent plays. Yes,
Speaker 3: he added fifty three yards rushing. That's a big number
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. When you're not calling design run plays,
Speaker 3: you're not talking about quarterback counter, quarterback sweep, you know,
Speaker 3: quarterback trap, You're not talking about those kind of things.
Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy back to pass. You know,
Speaker 3: five seconds, he's looking down the football field for five
Speaker 3: five and a half seconds, doesn't like what he sees.
Speaker 3: They're doing a pretty good job in coverage, but he
Speaker 3: sees a lane that's opened up in the pass rush
Speaker 3: and he just abuses that thing. Big guy, strong guy,
Speaker 3: can run, very athletic. Caleb Williams was a factory yesterday.
Speaker 3: Not only with that howards are hanging off his right shoulder,
Speaker 3: but running the football.
Speaker 2: No doubt, and you alluded to it It's what they
Speaker 2: hoped they were getting at him, because there had been
Speaker 2: he had been inconsistent. At times, he'd make a throw
Speaker 2: that made your head hurt, or he made a decision
Speaker 2: that really those were eliminated. Yesterday he showed on before
Speaker 2: everybody's eyes, exactly what you were hoping for in developing
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, no.
Speaker 3: Question, I mean he he basically said to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: I know you've taken some heat for taking me with
Speaker 3: the first pick in the draft. Yes, and thanks for
Speaker 3: staying with me, Thanks for hanging in there, thanks for
Speaker 3: letting me develop, Thanks for giving me time to develop
Speaker 3: and understand what it takes to play at at the
Speaker 3: level you need to play at in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna pay it back. I'm gonna win a
Speaker 3: lot of football games for you, and hopefully we'll go
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the offensive line side of things as
Speaker 2: we continue here from Ted Carris and more. As we
Speaker 2: navigate our way through this Monday night, It's Bengals Line
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Speaker 3: The Bengals are definitely licking their wounds after fall into
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears, and time for the injury report presented
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Speaker 3: providing the best care for the best fans. And I
Speaker 3: really don't know of any serious, you know, injuries. It's
Speaker 3: gonna cost the team multiple games with a player there
Speaker 3: may be a spray, a twist, a bruise or whatever.
Speaker 3: Guys were in the in the tent, uh getting getting
Speaker 3: checked out, X Ray's being taken, that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco kind of tweaked that bad shoulder that he's got,
Speaker 3: but he ended up coming back into the football game.
Speaker 3: So all in all, I think the players pretty much
Speaker 3: sucked it up and worked that way through any ailments
Speaker 3: that may have been there.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of
Speaker 2: the samajp Ryan, who that dude's a warrior. He took
Speaker 2: that hit and he was down and it looked really bad,
Speaker 2: and then he jumped up and like like I'm I'm fine,
Speaker 2: I'm going to the sidelines. I've got a job to do.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about me. And that's that's just who he is,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 3: I mean, and he was. They showed him on the
Speaker 3: sideline and he was gritting his teeth and he was
Speaker 3: grinding his teeth. You know that that that's a good
Speaker 3: indicator that you're dealing with some pain. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: there he was back in the football game, running hard.
Speaker 3: That guy. I got a lot of respect for his game.
Speaker 3: He's a He's a big, powerful, sturdy back. There's no
Speaker 3: question about it. He goes downhill as well as anybody man.
Speaker 3: He takes online backers and and down lineman. Uh. It
Speaker 3: just he gives his body up. He sacrifices it for
Speaker 3: the for the good of the football team. Great short
Speaker 3: yardage goal line guy. Uh. The Bengals really like him,
Speaker 3: and they should.
Speaker 2: He's a guy Dave that he may not be the
Speaker 2: the All Pro, he may not get the headlines, he
Speaker 2: may not put up amazing numbers, but he's a guy
Speaker 2: every team can use because he can do a lot
Speaker 2: of things. He does them because he knows it helps
Speaker 2: his team win. And he doesn't say boo about doing it.
Speaker 2: That may be running, catching, blocking, tag, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: he's willing to do it.
Speaker 3: Yep. And uh, you know yesterday he wasn't a huge factor,
Speaker 3: only one carry for five yards in that in that
Speaker 3: running game. But again, like you said, he's willing to
Speaker 3: do whatever task needs to be done for his football
Speaker 3: team to win the football game. And that means, you know,
Speaker 3: getting the nasty, tough short yardage, goal line yards, picking
Speaker 3: up first downs and picking up touchdowns, catching the football
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, running, running real good routes, soft hands,
Speaker 3: catch the ball, put it away. He doesn't turn it over.
Speaker 3: He is basically allergic to turnovers. He hates them, doesn't
Speaker 3: want any part of them. And then the best, the
Speaker 3: last thing that he does about as good as anybody
Speaker 3: in the NFL, in my opinion, at the running back position.
Speaker 3: He will stick his nose right in the chest of
Speaker 3: a linebacker and do a hell of a job and
Speaker 3: blitz pick up for Joe Flacco or Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Another guy who's a pros pro on this team is
Speaker 2: Ted Carris. Let's go inside the locker room after the game.
Speaker 2: Our friend James Rapine from Bengals Talk passed along a
Speaker 2: part of a conversation of Ted Terrris expressing what's going
Speaker 2: on with his team right now. Here's the veteran offensive lineman.
Speaker 12: Very grateful to be healthy and uh to play in
Speaker 12: the NFL and excited to see my family tonight. Obviously,
Speaker 12: two artbreakers in a row. Pretty crazy. So yeah, I've
Speaker 12: never recovered onside kick in the NFL. And and then
Speaker 12: went down and won. So that was I told everyone,
Speaker 12: sit down, it's not over. Obviously it wasn't, So maybe
Speaker 12: I won't say that next time.
Speaker 3: You've never done that.
Speaker 13: You said you covered it onside and I've never done that. No,
Speaker 13: it was pretty unique and pretty cool.
Speaker 9: Cool.
Speaker 12: That was a really good kick by uh because it
Speaker 12: didn't go ten, but it hit the guy.
Speaker 13: What did you learn about Joe Flacco this week?
Speaker 9: He's a grinder.
Speaker 13: I mean, he's a freaking Hall of Famer guy goes
Speaker 13: out there.
Speaker 12: I mean you should see his freaking ac Man, It's
Speaker 12: like crazy, goes out there, throws what five four seventy five?
Speaker 12: Come on, man, he can't ask for more than that
Speaker 12: out of your cue. So what a what a great
Speaker 12: addition to the team.
Speaker 8: You've seen a lot of ball.
Speaker 13: Have you ever seen anything.
Speaker 3: Like that game?
Speaker 12: No, I'm not I have not seen anything like that game.
Speaker 13: That was a crazy ending.
Speaker 12: You know, hard to denote something as a classic when
Speaker 12: you lose, but that was.
Speaker 13: At an all time game eight days ago.
Speaker 14: If I would have said, hey, you can to score
Speaker 14: eighty points as a team, because he had seven today
Speaker 14: with Charlie, but eighty nboo and two, what do you
Speaker 14: think your reaction would have been.
Speaker 13: I don't think I would have had a reaction, James.
Speaker 13: I think I would have called you a liar.
Speaker 15: How do you fight frustration and avoiding the stuff, the
Speaker 15: finger pointing type stuff that you need to try to
Speaker 15: avoid in the locker room.
Speaker 8: Where do you start with that as a captain?
Speaker 12: Well, we'll let We'll let the city do enough finger pointing.
Speaker 12: I'm sure there's enough to go around. But hey, I
Speaker 12: mean we just got to get ready to go get
Speaker 12: a week off, and then we got Pittsburgh. So I mean, Jase,
Speaker 12: here we go and there's the NFL. So grateful to
Speaker 12: be here. I wish would have won. But Cammy, is.
Speaker 16: There an accumulating frustration in the fact that a lot
Speaker 16: of the ways that y'all have lost with this year
Speaker 16: at times have looked like it did last year. Is
Speaker 16: there any accumulating frustration in that way? Even when Burrow
Speaker 16: was healthy, games kind of looked like this at certain
Speaker 16: points I had I.
Speaker 12: Have no accumulating frustration. I'm sure some people do, but
Speaker 12: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I have a job to do.
Speaker 13: So, you know, we had a good front in front
Speaker 13: of us.
Speaker 12: Say we had Grady Jarrett Dexter sweat, I mean we
Speaker 12: have we have to think about other things. We got
Speaker 12: guys coming and trying to run down your face. So
Speaker 12: I thought we did a good job as an O
Speaker 12: line protecting them. They got one cheap one on a squeeze.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 13: Overall I thought we can put up what forty two
Speaker 13: or thirty five as an O one with Charlie.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 13: So you know, oh well we'll get a week off.
Speaker 12: I'm enjoying the time with my daughter and uh get
Speaker 12: a jump start on the Pittsburgh Steelers who are rolling
Speaker 12: right now.
Speaker 2: Take Carris after the game. And if you're looking for
Speaker 2: guys who can to use the cliche steady at ship
Speaker 2: in shaky waters, Ted Carris has been there, done that.
Speaker 2: It is one of those calming voices of reason and
Speaker 2: leadership on this team.
Speaker 3: You're right on the money there, Lance. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: a grizzled veteran YEP that has the respect and trust
Speaker 3: of his teammates, you know, particularly guys up front, particularly
Speaker 3: the offensive line. It's almost like he's another coach on
Speaker 3: the field, you know, the way he handles things. He's
Speaker 3: you know, he's approaching double digit years. He's one of
Speaker 3: the most experienced, if not the most experienced veteran player
Speaker 3: on the football team, and everybody looks to him for
Speaker 3: leadership and he's more than willing to provide it. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what position or how many years you're in
Speaker 3: the league. If you're a you know, a rookie to
Speaker 3: a fourth year player just now starting to get vested
Speaker 3: for your retirement, and you want to know what you
Speaker 3: need to do and how you need to do it
Speaker 3: to hang around the National Football League and play as
Speaker 3: long as you possibly can. Just have a conversation, sit
Speaker 3: down with Ted Carriss. He'll tell you how to take
Speaker 3: care of your body, how to work out and make
Speaker 3: your body bigger and strong longer, how to compete at
Speaker 3: the highest level in the National Football League, the guys
Speaker 3: that you're going to be going up against. Ted Carriss
Speaker 3: is a gem. He is man and the Bengals that's
Speaker 3: one of the best deals that they've ever made in
Speaker 3: franchise history in my opinion, when they got Ted Carriss,
Speaker 3: they got the New England Patriots to part with Ted.
Speaker 2: Carriss, boy, and think about it, if and so many
Speaker 2: times you hear of a player who said, this guy,
Speaker 2: when I was young and coming into the league, took
Speaker 2: me under his arm and I learned from him. You've
Speaker 2: got two rookie guards and Dylan Fairchroud and Jalen Rivers
Speaker 2: wide eyed learning things for the first time. And to
Speaker 2: have a guiding force like Ted Carriss that builds a
Speaker 2: foundation that helps them become pros into the future.
Speaker 3: Good point, Lance, I mean, you know your football and
Speaker 3: you've seen a lot of football. Bob Johnson was that
Speaker 3: guy from me. You know, the original Bengal first picking
Speaker 3: the draft is nineteen sixty eight, his rookie year. Paul
Speaker 3: Brown said, this is a foundational football player. We're gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna start at the center position and bill out
Speaker 3: uh in in offense and uh We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: do the same thing on the defensive side of of
Speaker 3: the football. So I can't say tell you how influential
Speaker 3: he was in my understanding what it took to to
Speaker 3: make a team. First of all, there's no guarantee you're
Speaker 3: gonna make it. You get drafted, but you gotta make it.
Speaker 3: And uh, and what it takes to compete on a
Speaker 3: on a day to day basis in the national football
Speaker 3: you get yourself better. And I was very fortunate had
Speaker 3: Bob Johnson had John Shinner as a veteran played at Xaviers.
Speaker 3: Zavier didn't even have football anymore. That's how long ago
Speaker 3: we're talking about John Shinner's.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 3: Another pros pro, Howard fest was a messenger guard with
Speaker 3: John Shinners running Holland Big Sookie out of Tennessee State.
Speaker 3: He was Uh, he was a great player and and
Speaker 3: just a character, just a great human being, a funny guy.
Speaker 3: And Rufus may Is out of Ohio State, big roof.
Speaker 3: Uh that that guy. Now, you didn't want to get
Speaker 3: Rufus upset if you pissed Huer defensive line and you
Speaker 3: pissed Rufus mas off. Oh, it was hell to.
Speaker 2: Be paid man, Love it we put just about at
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Speaker 2: Hey, we continue on on our Monday Night journey. We
Speaker 2: do it each and every week, although next week, because
Speaker 2: of the bye, we are off, so we'll be back
Speaker 2: at you the following week. But we sort through what
Speaker 2: transpires and then look ahead. We've got a whole lot
Speaker 2: to still sort through. From yesterday forty seven to forty two,
Speaker 2: the final score Chicago Bears went at pay Corps Stadium.
Speaker 2: Let's add in some more offensive prospective. Chase Brown yesterday
Speaker 2: carried eleven times for thirty seven yards, had a long
Speaker 2: of twelve. He was targeted fourteen times. He was targeted
Speaker 2: five more times than anybody else on the team. Had
Speaker 2: eight catches for seventy five yards a law long of
Speaker 2: twenty one. Here's Chase Brown after the game.
Speaker 17: When you guys have back to back games where you
Speaker 17: know you scored thirty eight points over forty points today
Speaker 17: as an offense, does it almost feel like you guys
Speaker 17: are in disbelief to the point like what more can
Speaker 17: we do? Or how are you compartmentalizing these two losses?
Speaker 13: Well, I think for us is.
Speaker 18: Uh, you know, we made some good plays, but we
Speaker 18: also weren't perfect. So that's what you're chasing this game
Speaker 18: is perfection. At the end of the day, there's a
Speaker 18: lot of things that we could have been better in
Speaker 18: and you know, when we go and watch a film,
Speaker 18: we'll we'll learn from them and move on and you know.
Speaker 13: Let's just control what we can control at the end
Speaker 13: of the day.
Speaker 2: Losing like that is.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's unbelievable, Like it's unbelievable. Last play the game
Speaker 18: like it sucks, But that's NFL. You got to play
Speaker 18: to the last second. You can't let up, even even
Speaker 18: when you feel like the momentum shifted. So that would
Speaker 18: that would be how I'm feeling right now is just
Speaker 18: play all the way through and.
Speaker 8: Always wrong through your head walking back to the locker.
Speaker 18: Room chase, probably the same as what was running through
Speaker 18: your head, like like what the what.
Speaker 8: The when did that emotion change to just hanger?
Speaker 12: Knowing how differently this season could have looked if you
Speaker 12: closed out the last two weeks.
Speaker 13: So it just it, just it.
Speaker 18: I'd be lying if I said it didn't set us
Speaker 18: back from where we want to be.
Speaker 13: You know, we want to be.
Speaker 18: Our mentality was three and o going into the into
Speaker 18: this bye week, and we we could have easily done it.
Speaker 13: That's the sickening part. It's like we could have easily
Speaker 13: done it.
Speaker 8: One of the hensions.
Speaker 12: It looks like it's building between the offense and defense,
Speaker 12: at least from the outside.
Speaker 15: What do you do as a leader on the team
Speaker 15: of someone to kind of prevent that from how happening.
Speaker 13: Just don't turn on each other, like we we know
Speaker 13: how they can play.
Speaker 18: They played really well at the start of the season
Speaker 18: like they did and they like they were carrying us
Speaker 18: on their back. So you know, now that we're stepping up,
Speaker 18: I think like I think, like, you know, we just
Speaker 18: got to play complimentary football, like we put the ball
Speaker 18: in the end zone and go up a point at
Speaker 18: the end, finish the game, like just end it, like
Speaker 18: that's it, Like that's that's like that's what we need
Speaker 18: to do. Just end the game, like make them, make
Speaker 18: them get us the ball back.
Speaker 13: Let us go to.
Speaker 18: Twenty two victory and let's end the game. That's how
Speaker 18: that's like, that's how I feel. You know what we like,
Speaker 18: you know, we can't we we didn't.
Speaker 13: We're taking steps forward so offensively, so that's good.
Speaker 18: Like, you know, we're trying to control what we can control,
Speaker 18: and we're going to keep doing what we can do.
Speaker 13: And you know.
Speaker 18: Flaco fought like a warrior today with you know, the
Speaker 18: way his shoulder was, like, you know, things aren't going
Speaker 18: to be perfect, but you know, we made things work
Speaker 18: on our end, and you know, we made mistakes, we
Speaker 18: learned from them, but we just kept on fighting and
Speaker 18: with the end of the day, like you got to
Speaker 18: go to the very end, Chase.
Speaker 16: How frustrating is it that y'all got Flacco in here
Speaker 16: to boost the offense, goes out does what he did
Speaker 16: last week and this week and it still hasn't been enough.
Speaker 16: How frustrating is it that it kind of has worked
Speaker 16: out the way they hoped and just the results haven't
Speaker 16: been there.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I think it's been enough.
Speaker 18: It's just we got to finish, Like we just got
Speaker 18: to finish at the end of the day, Like we're
Speaker 18: putting points on the board now, so like, let's let's
Speaker 18: let's finish off these games and get these wins, and
Speaker 18: you know we'll be we'll be good.
Speaker 8: Do you feel like last year at all?
Speaker 13: In what way? I guess the score a lot not
Speaker 13: always been enough.
Speaker 18: I guess you could say there's similarities. But you know
Speaker 18: we're not gonna turn on each other. We'll be just fun,
Speaker 18: will be good.
Speaker 19: Like you feel like you have to be perfect, almost
Speaker 19: offensively chase for.
Speaker 9: You guys to win.
Speaker 18: At this point, that's our vul we we we chase
Speaker 18: perfection every week.
Speaker 13: So you chase perfection every week.
Speaker 18: So you know, yeah, we weren't perfect today, so you
Speaker 18: know we'll try to be perfect next next opportunity.
Speaker 19: If you look at the effort that you had on
Speaker 19: the final drive, that te had on the final drive,
Speaker 19: I mean, guys are putting it on the line for
Speaker 19: you to win games, and you leave here without a win.
Speaker 19: What's that emotionally like for you? Considering what you're doing
Speaker 19: to win.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go do it next time we get the opportunity.
Speaker 18: So that's just my mentality next time we're in that
Speaker 18: same if we're in that same situation, I'm gonna do
Speaker 18: the same thing, do whatever I can to make a
Speaker 18: play and put the team in position to win. And
Speaker 18: that's all I care about the end of the day.
Speaker 18: I don't care if I flip or I know any
Speaker 18: playmaker on this team, any any position, Like, we're all
Speaker 18: willing to do whatever it takes a win.
Speaker 13: We just gotta finish.
Speaker 18: I think that's like what you go into this bye week,
Speaker 18: think you and kind of repeating to yourself is.
Speaker 13: Just finish, finish, Finish these goddamn games. Finish them.
Speaker 14: Given the fact that you went up against this defense
Speaker 14: and training camp and how they started the season, is
Speaker 14: it surprising that they haven't finished the past couple of
Speaker 14: weeks and and got these ones for you? M Oh okay,
Speaker 14: yeahs it surprising that they didn't do theirs. I'm like,
Speaker 14: I don't know, old No, your own defense, you face
Speaker 14: them every day.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we know what they can do, So that's it.
Speaker 18: Just play up to your standard and when it's your
Speaker 18: opportunity to strap somebody up or make the tackle or
Speaker 18: whatever it is.
Speaker 9: Do it.
Speaker 8: Think you're leadership on that side of the ball right now.
Speaker 18: I think so we got leaders, we got vets, we
Speaker 18: got guys with you know, captain Badgers on their chests
Speaker 18: like we're good.
Speaker 13: There no stepping up up in a big way.
Speaker 18: I think, Uh, you know, they just need they just
Speaker 18: need to figure it out.
Speaker 13: They'll be good. Like they'll be good, they'll do.
Speaker 15: So does it feel like the season is slipping away
Speaker 15: on you guys a little bit right now?
Speaker 18: We're just gonna keep you know, keep a foot all
Speaker 18: the way down in the throttle and we'll be good. Well,
Speaker 18: we're not gonna we just can't lose a locker run.
Speaker 18: That's if we can't lose. Like, I'm not gonna point fingers.
Speaker 18: I could have been better today. That's how I'm feeling
Speaker 18: leaving the field. Like, you know, I'll focus on me
Speaker 18: and let everybody else focus on what they need to
Speaker 18: get better at. And then when we come together and
Speaker 18: against the next opponent, you know, we're all gonna be better.
Speaker 18: So yeah, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown after the game yesterday, and he, like most
Speaker 2: there was that expression of back to what Zach said,
Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened today, And who would believe
Speaker 2: had had we said two weeks ago, Dave, the Bengals
Speaker 2: will score thirty eight points and followed up with forty
Speaker 2: two points and lose both of those games. Nobody would
Speaker 2: have thought that possible. But we are looking at that
Speaker 2: very fact right now. We certainly are, and it's it's
Speaker 2: mind boggling. The Bengals ran the ball.
Speaker 3: Just fifteen times yesterday, they threw it forty seven. When
Speaker 3: you're that imbalanced, usually it's a blowout. But it was
Speaker 3: a five point game, forty seven forty two. They scored
Speaker 3: forty two points being that imbalanced. I mean, if they
Speaker 3: can somehow balance up their offense where they run the
Speaker 3: ball for one hundred and fifty yards and throw the
Speaker 3: ball for two fifty or something like that, and you know,
Speaker 3: and get after people with an offense that's generating three
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty three hundred and seventy five four hundred
Speaker 3: yards offense and is is cranking, you know, twenty eight
Speaker 3: to thirty five points. Yeah, that should that should win
Speaker 3: you're a lot of football games. Now. Obviously it would
Speaker 3: have come up far short yesterday, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: But you know, you take away the twelve yard carry,
Speaker 3: ten carries for twenty five yards, two point five a
Speaker 3: rush for Chase Brown, on ten carries, and that's not
Speaker 3: that's not Chase Brown. You know, maybe every once in
Speaker 3: a while he might have decided I'm gonna I misread that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It came back to the my bad guys, it was blocked. Well,
Speaker 3: I misread it more times than not. Though to my eye,
Speaker 3: it was just the offensive line getting beat. In the
Speaker 3: offensive line, instead of getting some push up front, they
Speaker 3: were getting pushed. They were getting pushed back off the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and that's tough on any running back.
Speaker 3: You see the numbers of your offensive lineman standing straight up,
Speaker 3: you know that it's not going very well for those
Speaker 3: guys up front.
Speaker 2: David, I'll tell you what I love from the very
Speaker 2: first offensive snap of the game for this team. And
Speaker 2: much has been made about how many targets Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: had had twenty three two weeks ago, I think sixteen
Speaker 2: last week. Tea was only targeted two times last week,
Speaker 2: only one catch. That was a subject of conversation throughout
Speaker 2: the week and whether they planned it or it just
Speaker 2: happened this way. The very first snap of the game,
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco finds t Higgins and it was an omen
Speaker 2: of things to come. Nine targets, seven catches, one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty one yards, two touchdowns. T had a big ge.
Speaker 2: T had a T Higgins day yesterday.
Speaker 3: He did. The fans were in full throw too.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: That forty four yard touchdown catch was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 3: He really was. Oh he did. He's got such strong
Speaker 3: hands and and T is so good at the contested catch.
Speaker 3: He's got length, he's got strength, strong hands, he can
Speaker 3: he can snatch the football and put it away. And
Speaker 3: a really good route runner. You know, T Higgins would
Speaker 3: be the number one receiver on thirty one other teams,
Speaker 3: but he's with Jamar Chase, and Jamar Chase triple crown
Speaker 3: winner last year. You know, catches yards and touchdowns, so
Speaker 3: got to get him involved. But with that said, you know,
Speaker 3: he T Higgins in Jamar Chase. Nine targets for T,
Speaker 3: eight for Jamar, seven catches for T. Six for Jamar,
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty one yards for T. One hundred
Speaker 3: and eleven for Jamar, you know, and T had the
Speaker 3: two touchdowns. That that is gonna make it very very
Speaker 3: difficult for defenses because cheez, who do we double? You know,
Speaker 3: we double both of them and then Gasicki or somebody
Speaker 3: like that needs to step up. And that's the thing. Offensively,
Speaker 3: they've got all the weapons. They got a plethora of weapons.
Speaker 3: Whatever the defense does, the Bengals have a counter move
Speaker 3: to it, you know, I mean, if it's a chess match,
Speaker 3: they're not going to get checkmated.
Speaker 2: How about this and I five me another team that
Speaker 2: can say this is that from an offensive skill set.
Speaker 2: Catches yesterday long catches. Chase Brown had a long of
Speaker 2: twenty one. He had a long of forty four, Chase
Speaker 2: thirty six, Yoshi twenty eight, Hudson had a thirty three
Speaker 2: yard catch. Fans had a twenty three yard catch. Tinsley
Speaker 2: had a twenty seven yard catch Dave. Seven different guys
Speaker 2: yesterday had catches for at least twenty three yards.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, it is, It's absolutely crazy. And only seven
Speaker 3: guys had a catch, so every single one of the
Speaker 3: receivers had a reception of twenty yards more twenty three,
Speaker 3: twenty seven, twenty eight, thirty three, thirty six, twenty one
Speaker 3: for Chase Brown out of the backfield. Higgins the forty
Speaker 3: four yard touchdown. Like we said, two touchdown passes were
Speaker 3: long long range, long distance t. Higgins and no offense.
Speaker 3: And that's what we're talking about if they do start
Speaker 3: paying a hell of a lot of attention outside Gasiki
Speaker 3: was nicked up, you know, he wasn't available. But if
Speaker 3: you have a Gasiki and Fan keeps developing, now you
Speaker 3: have two tight ends that can hurt you the way
Speaker 3: those guys showed that they can hurt you, and then
Speaker 3: throw Hudson in there to boot. I mean it. There's
Speaker 3: no shortage of weapons now, Yep. The quarterbacks aren't complaining
Speaker 3: about that. There's no shortage of guys for them to
Speaker 3: sling the football to.
Speaker 2: Had a final point that the two tight ends Hudson
Speaker 2: and Fan combined had five targets. They caught four of
Speaker 2: them for seventy yards and a touchdown. Nice out of work.
Speaker 2: That's a heck of a day from your tight end
Speaker 2: all day, every day. No hang type more to get
Speaker 2: to here from Jamar Chase on the offensive side of things.
Speaker 2: So we roll on with Bengals Line on the Bengals
Speaker 2: Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Speaker 9: You were old right.
Speaker 2: Along in this Monday night, navigating our way through three
Speaker 2: hours of Bengal's conversation looking back at yesterday forty seven
Speaker 2: forty two at pay Corps. The bye week coming up,
Speaker 2: but we've got ground to cover between now and nine
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight, so let's continue on. Jamar Chase yesterday targeted
Speaker 2: eight times, six catches, one hundred and eleven yards, an
Speaker 2: average of eighteen and a half per catch along of
Speaker 2: thirty six. Here's Jamar meeting with the media after the game.
Speaker 20: Often's got a final way to put the bott in
Speaker 20: the game away? Somehow, some way you gotta do it.
Speaker 3: How do you keep.
Speaker 8: Putting it on the offense his shoulders?
Speaker 6: Considering what you've all.
Speaker 20: Watched the last month or so, you say, why, Yeah,
Speaker 20: that's only the way we're gonna fix it. I don't
Speaker 20: know how why that's what I'm looking to keep pointing
Speaker 20: at offense.
Speaker 9: I can't point out the defense.
Speaker 3: You haven't been.
Speaker 21: Around a comeback like that before. No, fifteen points in
Speaker 21: like about a minute and a half. No, who's going
Speaker 21: three of mine is in the last call?
Speaker 3: What was working?
Speaker 9: What was the uh?
Speaker 13: Guys put up a lot of fundy yet.
Speaker 20: I don't know exactly what was working at in the day.
Speaker 20: It was a lot and everybody had opportunity to touch the bottle.
Speaker 20: This so the offense was uh, very very versatile today.
Speaker 8: I mean, what Flacca's doing is pretty extraordinary, more than
Speaker 8: three hundred yards in the second half alone. What has
Speaker 8: he shown you?
Speaker 20: He's a veteran, he's showing us he a vetter.
Speaker 8: When you scored with fifty four seconds to go to
Speaker 8: take the lead, what was running through your mind?
Speaker 9: And the defense gonna stop?
Speaker 14: It's coming frustrating at this point talking about, you know,
Speaker 14: just needing eating stops as.
Speaker 9: This time was why wee can meet up?
Speaker 20: I'm getting tirdy I asking me about the defense and stops? Yeh,
Speaker 20: I aks the defense that stopped asking me that on
Speaker 20: my offensive play.
Speaker 3: A though.
Speaker 6: Joe was just.
Speaker 19: Talking in there about the the importance of what you
Speaker 19: guys said eight weeks left.
Speaker 9: It's an emotional game.
Speaker 19: But all you can do is put your head down
Speaker 19: in work. How will you approach the next week and
Speaker 19: a half.
Speaker 20: But now what I did this week, i'm'a keep working
Speaker 20: and being myself.
Speaker 22: Takes some work tomorrow. What what does it say about
Speaker 22: Joe Flackellen what he was able to do, fight through
Speaker 22: the shoulder injury and throw f four seventy were veteran.
Speaker 20: It's used to it kept his composure the whole game.
Speaker 3: How hard is it to keep your composure after a
Speaker 3: game like this?
Speaker 9: It's not fun when you losing.
Speaker 22: I guess I'll ask you the same question I asked
Speaker 22: last week? How hard or what's it going to be
Speaker 22: like maintaining hope through the bye week for the second half.
Speaker 20: I'll go back to practice, work there and just play football.
Speaker 14: Felt like you guys are kind of on the other
Speaker 14: end of of what happened last week. You rally in
Speaker 14: the fourth party to score two touchdowns in like a
Speaker 14: minute of game time. What goes through your mind when
Speaker 14: you're scoring that second touchdown and particul a leap.
Speaker 9: Deep thing to get a stop?
Speaker 2: Jamar after the game, and Jamar was asked about it.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown was asking about it. Everybody in the offense
Speaker 2: has been asked about it. And it's that it's that
Speaker 2: delicate balance Dave of when when one side is putting
Speaker 2: up so many points and the other side isn't, the
Speaker 2: questions become about, you know, how do you feel about
Speaker 2: the other guys not helping you out? And that makes
Speaker 2: it it's always very uncomfortable and it's always a delicate
Speaker 2: line because it is a team and you don't want
Speaker 2: to throw anybody under the bus. But on one side
Speaker 2: of the room, you've got a group that's doing their job,
Speaker 2: and on the other side you're looking and saying, can
Speaker 2: we get a little bit of help here?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and in the locker room, they know that,
Speaker 3: they understand that, you know, and it's almost like the
Speaker 3: defensive players come up to, you know, Joe Flacco and
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and t Higgins after the game say hey, guys, man,
Speaker 3: you balled out. You gave every everything you had. Sorry
Speaker 3: we could, we didn't give you enough support. We didn't
Speaker 3: get it done. And you know, it literally does happen.
Speaker 3: Some guys do do that. I mean, they feel like, man,
Speaker 3: I just totally did not fulfill my responsibilities to help
Speaker 3: a football team win. And uh, you know it's it stinks.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've gotta I've gotta, I gotta be better.
Speaker 3: I have to do a better job. I got to
Speaker 3: take care of business and whatever I need to do
Speaker 3: to take care of business, whether it's you know, change
Speaker 3: my diet, change my workout habits, my uh procedure, how
Speaker 3: many days a week. I do it. When I work
Speaker 3: out how I work out. Uh, that's that's where they are.
Speaker 3: The season is on the brink, as the old saying goes,
Speaker 3: and everybody's got to do whatever it takes to get
Speaker 3: the thing turned around quickly. Boy.
Speaker 2: And you think there have been there's there's a lot
Speaker 2: of guys on the defensive side who are young and learning,
Speaker 2: and that's that's always tough. But in tough times to
Speaker 2: be in that situation, there's that back to the old
Speaker 2: Marvin Lewis cliche, farm your own crops, do your job.
Speaker 2: And when so much chaos is happening with the defense,
Speaker 2: I would think the the inclination is I got to
Speaker 2: make all the plays and I got to be everywhere
Speaker 2: at the same time. And when that happens, it's just
Speaker 2: it's just chaos. And sometimes it looks like on the
Speaker 2: field there's guys running around trying to do ten other
Speaker 2: guys jobs.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's that's when you're you're one step away
Speaker 3: from chaos.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
Speaker 3: It's like there's the coaches burn the midnight oil, putting
Speaker 3: together game plans, putting together sche manics, putting together playbooks,
Speaker 3: putting together you know, everything they can to get you
Speaker 3: in a position to win a football game. And if
Speaker 3: you decide, yeah, the hell with it, it's not working.
Speaker 3: And then panic sets in and guys, I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: every tackle. I'm gonna have a fifty tackle game. You know,
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, you know, just play football.
Speaker 3: It's it's selfish. They're trying not to be They're trying
Speaker 3: to be just the opposite.
Speaker 2: Right, They're trying to help. They take their help anything.
Speaker 3: Anything, and and literally, I mean, I'll give my right arm,
Speaker 3: I'll give my right leg, you know, if that's what
Speaker 3: it takes. Some guys are of that mindset, particularly crazy linebackers. Man,
Speaker 3: it's that that is a uh that's a tough place
Speaker 3: to be and uh the uh you have to go
Speaker 3: see a sports psychologist and say, you know, how do
Speaker 3: I how do I get over this? How do I
Speaker 3: what do I do? How do I? How do I
Speaker 3: take care of business in a different way? And it's
Speaker 3: it's not an easy deal. And and you know, wives
Speaker 3: and kids, uh suffer repercussions from that, and sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: it leads to divorce and and and things that are
Speaker 3: tough in life, not just football life, but life in general.
Speaker 3: So man, you can never take anything for granted, particularly
Speaker 3: in the game of football.
Speaker 2: Still ahead, we'll drop in our weekly Fun Facts conversation
Speaker 2: Dan Horde with Noah Fant. You'll hear from orin Berks
Speaker 2: and uh More. He's Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacallister. The
Speaker 2: show is Bengals Line. We do it on the Bengals
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Speaker 2: We're back on Bengals Line on this Monday night on
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Speaker 2: at pay Corpse Stadium, looking ahead of the bye and
Speaker 2: trade deadline tomorrow and all that to get to. I'm
Speaker 2: Lance Pacallister. He is Dave Lapham.
Speaker 3: A lot of activity coming up, Lance, a lot of activities. Bye.
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Speaker 2: We love Dan Horde's weekly fun Fact segment. This week,
Speaker 2: the spotlight on Bengals tight end Noah Fan. Two catches
Speaker 2: on three targets an average of fourteen yards to catch
Speaker 2: the twenty three yard for a touchdown. Here is Dan
Speaker 2: with fun facts and Bengals tight end no Offen no
Speaker 2: fantastic facts.
Speaker 9: With Dan Ord.
Speaker 8: Time for some fun facts with tight end Noah Fan
Speaker 8: from Omaha, Nebraska, the biggest city in Nebraska, the home
Speaker 8: of the College World Series Noah. Based on what I've read,
Speaker 8: you're the youngest of six kids. Is that accurate? And
Speaker 8: what was that like?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm definitely definitely the youngest of six, three brothers
Speaker 11: and two sisters, and it was a great, great upbringing.
Speaker 9: Definitely.
Speaker 11: My my siblings thought I was a little bit spoiled,
Speaker 11: but it was great. I have great relationships with all
Speaker 11: of them, so couldn't complain.
Speaker 8: It's funny you say that because I'm the fourth of five,
Speaker 8: and my older siblings always said, You've got it so easy.
Speaker 8: Mom and dad have just kind of given up. They're
Speaker 8: letting you do whatever you want.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 11: No, I definitely definitely think there's some of the same.
Speaker 11: But my parents were tough on me growing up, but
Speaker 11: in a good way, so I was blessed to have them.
Speaker 8: One of your older brothers was your high school coach.
Speaker 8: Was he tough on you?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 11: I think my brother just wanted the best for me,
Speaker 11: wanted me to do achieved greatness, And yeah, he was
Speaker 11: a big part of my development early on growing up,
Speaker 11: as with my dad and my mom.
Speaker 9: But yeah, he was. He was a big part of that.
Speaker 8: You attended Omaha South High School but also took classes
Speaker 8: at the University of Nebraska Medical Center while you were
Speaker 8: in high school. Tell me about that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the un m C High School Alliance was kind
Speaker 11: of a program for high school students to kind of
Speaker 11: get a fast track to.
Speaker 9: Any medical profession that they wanted to get into going
Speaker 9: into college.
Speaker 11: So it was taking college classes out of college at
Speaker 11: a college campus and you know, kind of working in
Speaker 11: and seeing what path we wanted to take when we
Speaker 11: got into college.
Speaker 9: So it was a great experience.
Speaker 11: And I still keep in touch with some of the
Speaker 11: people that run that program and have gone back to
Speaker 11: visit before. And yeah, I'm just super fortunate to be
Speaker 11: able to partake in that.
Speaker 8: You dealt with Kidavers, Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 9: You know, it's definitely a unique experience.
Speaker 11: Not something that I thought that I would have been
Speaker 11: doing that young but uh man, what a cool like
Speaker 11: a like a cool experience and a blessing for me
Speaker 11: to be able to do that at such a young
Speaker 11: age and really learn. I learned so much in that
Speaker 11: in that program and the classes that I took, so
Speaker 11: I was super fortunate to be able to be a
Speaker 11: part of that.
Speaker 8: In your scouting report coming out of college on NFL
Speaker 8: dot com, it said you had an idea of possibly
Speaker 8: being a surgeon after playing football. Is that still a
Speaker 8: remote possibility in your mind?
Speaker 11: I'm not so sure yet. There's a lot of schooling
Speaker 11: that I would have to go through after playing football
Speaker 11: in year seven, so we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 11: But not shutting in any doors.
Speaker 8: We're visiting with Noah Fant. When it came time to
Speaker 8: pick a college, you chose the school with a reputation
Speaker 8: of being tight end You Iowa, Dallas Clark, George Kittle, TJ. Howkinson,
Speaker 8: Sam Laporta, Eric alf from the Bengals, and others. How
Speaker 8: do you explain that lineage of Greade tight ends?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I think that just like when I was going to Iowa,
Speaker 11: the guys that were kind of there before me were
Speaker 11: like Dallas car Tony Malaki, I think Scott Chandler, guys
Speaker 11: of that nature that had been there before and had
Speaker 11: made it to the NFL. And it was just kind
Speaker 11: of one of those things that was that was a
Speaker 11: selling point that if I wanted to play tight end
Speaker 11: in a in an offense that used the tight end
Speaker 11: quite often, that I wanted to be able to do
Speaker 11: that and go and go there. And obviously my freshman
Speaker 11: year was Georgia's senior year, and then after that it's
Speaker 11: just been pumping out tight ends, uh, definitely more frequently
Speaker 11: ever since. So it's been It's been a really cool
Speaker 11: experience to be a part of.
Speaker 9: For sure.
Speaker 8: Is it almost like a self fulfilling prophecy where the
Speaker 8: best high school tight ends in the country gravitate to
Speaker 8: Iowa and then it's almost destiny that they're going to
Speaker 8: turn out to be pros.
Speaker 11: You know, Honestly, I think that I wouldn't necessarily say
Speaker 11: the best, like the best top recruits that tightened really
Speaker 11: go to Iowa. I think I would does a really
Speaker 11: good job of identifying guys that have the traits and
Speaker 11: then developing them.
Speaker 9: Like when I was coming out of high school.
Speaker 11: As a three star athlete out of Nebraska, I had
Speaker 11: like fifteen offers from different schools, but wasn't like a
Speaker 11: top recruited five star tight end coming out of out
Speaker 11: of high school. So they do a great job of
Speaker 11: identifying guys with those traits and developing them into a
Speaker 11: all around tight end. So that was something I was
Speaker 11: really proud of going there and being a part of.
Speaker 8: After three years with the Hot Eyes, you entered the
Speaker 8: draft and were selected in the first round twentieth overall
Speaker 8: by Denver. Describe your draft night experience.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a great experience.
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously it was waiting a little bit twenty
Speaker 11: picks in, but it wasn't complaining at all. It was
Speaker 11: just like a very stressful situation. But what a cool
Speaker 11: experience for me and my family being there all together
Speaker 11: in the green room and getting that call from Denver
Speaker 11: at the time, and it was a surreal moment, So
Speaker 11: really cool experience for for me and my family.
Speaker 8: You had three good years in Denver, you probably expected
Speaker 8: to be there for a long long time, and then
Speaker 8: the Broncos pulled off a blockbuster trade for Russell Wilson,
Speaker 8: giving up multiple high draft picks and yourself in that deal.
Speaker 8: Did you have any inkling that you might be traded
Speaker 8: or was it a total shock?
Speaker 9: No, I was.
Speaker 11: I was pretty shocked, to be honest with you, Hindsight
Speaker 11: twenty twenty. Obviously, I'll understand, right, it's like you get
Speaker 11: your shot at a franchise quarterback at the time that
Speaker 11: you think it's your franchise quarterback, and you're gonna do whatever.
Speaker 11: You know, you're not going to hold back a tight
Speaker 11: end for that deal, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 11: I understood, I understood it. I was definitely shocked and
Speaker 11: taken it back by it. Some would say blindsided, but like, man,
Speaker 11: it was such crazy experience. And obviously was traded to
Speaker 11: Seattle and had some good years there, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 11: it was. It was definitely wild, a wild experience for sure.
Speaker 8: So three years in Denver, three years in Seattle, and
Speaker 8: then earlier this year they let you go kind of
Speaker 8: in a salary cap dump type situation. But it did
Speaker 8: give you the opportunity to choose for the first time
Speaker 8: since you were in high school. Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 11: It was a very interesting experience because it was I
Speaker 11: supposed choosing, but at a time that was very late
Speaker 11: in the process, and you know, got people had already
Speaker 11: really had the roster set and things of that nature.
Speaker 11: So yeah, it was nice to choose, I suppose, but
Speaker 11: like wasn't an ideal situation that late in the game,
Speaker 11: which was kind of a little frustrating. But yeah, I
Speaker 11: was happy to be able to land in Cincinnati. What
Speaker 11: a great place for me to land at with coach
Speaker 11: Taylor and pitch and James Casey is a great, great
Speaker 11: Titans coach. I've been really really fortunate to be able
Speaker 11: to work with them and be in a good situation here.
Speaker 11: So it ended up working out, But obviously it was
Speaker 11: definitely a process to get there for sure.
Speaker 8: All Right, a few wild card topics now for Bengals
Speaker 8: type and Noah Fan, who is your all time favorite
Speaker 8: athlete in any sport?
Speaker 11: I would say you Michael Jordan. I wasn't old enough
Speaker 11: to like see him in his prime, but just like
Speaker 11: the greatness of him and the championships that he's won,
Speaker 11: that his all of his highlights.
Speaker 9: He's just an iconic player.
Speaker 11: Whenever someone mentions like a goat of a sport, it's
Speaker 11: like he automatically comes up. He's definitely a polarizing player
Speaker 11: that not only changed the game but changed really just
Speaker 11: like the world kind of honestly, He's like he was
Speaker 11: a world known athlete.
Speaker 9: So it was like, what a cool what a cool experience,
Speaker 9: like experience.
Speaker 11: To be able to see but unfortunately I wasn't able
Speaker 11: to see it, But what a cool experience to like
Speaker 11: be able to go back and watch those highlights and
Speaker 11: experience that greatness.
Speaker 8: So and he made it okay for people like me
Speaker 8: to be bald. Yeah, you've spent seven years in the NFL,
Speaker 8: You've done well financially. What do you like to splur John?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 11: Food, That's like, that's one of the things that I'll
Speaker 11: like pay a good dollar for, is like a just
Speaker 11: a really good meal, especially like with friends and families,
Speaker 11: which is which is one of the things that I
Speaker 11: value very much.
Speaker 9: So food is definitely one of those things.
Speaker 8: Big fancy steakhous are something more eclectic and foodie either one.
Speaker 11: I'm I'm a pretty wide range guy that'll that'll like
Speaker 11: have anything to eat, And honestly, it's a it's just
Speaker 11: a what's the choice of the day, honestly.
Speaker 8: So other than sports, do you have any hidden talents?
Speaker 9: I don't know about hidden talents.
Speaker 11: I just kind of I try to view myself as
Speaker 11: like a like a pretty multi faceted guy, Like I
Speaker 11: just like a lot of different things. I do a
Speaker 11: lot of different things, and I don't think there's just
Speaker 11: one one singular thing that I'm like super talented at though.
Speaker 8: All Right, final fun fact for Noah F This one's
Speaker 8: kind of deep. If you could meet anybody in history,
Speaker 8: living or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 11: I would want to EAT's my dad's dad. He passed
Speaker 11: away when my dad was very young, so it'd have
Speaker 11: been my grandpa. But I never got to meet him.
Speaker 11: But I definitely wouldn't want to met him and just
Speaker 11: kind of talk to him and see what he see
Speaker 11: how he viewed life, see how he viewed everything. Obviously
Speaker 11: my dad didn't wasn't able to have those those moments
Speaker 11: with him very long, But yeah, I think those would
Speaker 11: be some really cool conversations to see what he thought.
Speaker 8: No doubt about it. No, I appreciate your time, best
Speaker 8: of luck the rest of the year.
Speaker 9: Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: No The subject of fun facts, that conversation and more
Speaker 2: each week The Bengals Booth Podcast still ahead, we'll talk
Speaker 2: special teams. How about it the day by special teams.
Speaker 2: You hear from special team or extraordinary or in Berks
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Speaker 2: Dave Lap them special teams in the spotlight in this segment.
Speaker 2: Bengals got a kick return for a touchdown, they recovered
Speaker 2: it on side kick, they deflected and blocked a field goal.
Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that in this segment, but
Speaker 2: let's start it off with conversation with the man who
Speaker 2: plays special teams and linebacker. He's the veteran want to
Speaker 2: ring with the Philadelphia Eagles, That would be Oron Burks.
Speaker 2: Here's Dan Horde with Oran after the game.
Speaker 23: They played fast, we played physical. Like I said, this
Speaker 23: player here here or there, they're gonna change the game.
Speaker 23: So for us, it's about sick sticking together in our room,
Speaker 23: and I truly believe that they're going to be on
Speaker 23: the other side of this thing.
Speaker 9: At the end of the year. Did they do it
Speaker 9: on the ground?
Speaker 23: Would just run ball? All the runs that we've seen
Speaker 23: throughout the year, same shots, Thomas.
Speaker 9: Again, it's for us. You gotta get off tape, so
Speaker 9: expect to work.
Speaker 6: Can you can you run through the on site?
Speaker 23: Yeah, just on the side. You knew were gonna have
Speaker 23: an opportunity to get to the ball and.
Speaker 9: Just got a scratch, claw, crawl, just.
Speaker 23: Try to get the ball out. That's that was my
Speaker 23: first time getting on side. So it was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 6: You grab it for somebody?
Speaker 13: What was going on down there?
Speaker 9: Is just a scrum man just trying to get the ball.
Speaker 13: Did you guys know that they touched it so it
Speaker 13: was live?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, so I hit off the the guy went
Speaker 9: out to block.
Speaker 22: So when you're a veteran, obviously you've played on championship teams,
Speaker 22: what is your message to younger players who are obviously very.
Speaker 4: Emotional right now?
Speaker 23: Yeah, there's gotta be no quit uh, and I don't
Speaker 23: see that on this team.
Speaker 9: There's no quit inn this team.
Speaker 23: And uh, we gotta rely on each other, trust each other,
Speaker 23: and I'll just get back to work.
Speaker 13: I think I think the day, uh, I think the
Speaker 13: day began. You had a hell of a block on
Speaker 13: Charlie's kick returning it.
Speaker 9: See it seems like.
Speaker 13: About eight years ago, but uh what Uh can you
Speaker 13: run through that one too.
Speaker 23: Yeah, we were just stressing making a game change of
Speaker 23: play on special teams and uh that what what a
Speaker 23: great way to start the game with the opening kickoff
Speaker 23: take it into the house and uh that.
Speaker 9: That again just comes back to the work.
Speaker 23: Uh, And and Darren's been doing a great job of
Speaker 23: putting us in the right positions. It's it's for us
Speaker 23: to go out and execute consistently.
Speaker 9: So that's what we're working on.
Speaker 14: How much was the opportunities in the last two weeks,
Speaker 14: two chances to close games out at home staying over
Speaker 14: the next twenty four forty eight hours.
Speaker 23: Yeah, it definitely stings, but you know, at the end
Speaker 23: of the day, those games are over with and uh
Speaker 23: we got a n A buy right now so we
Speaker 23: can refresh and get right back to it. And Uh,
Speaker 23: like I said, I just really believe in this team.
Speaker 23: There's no quitting this team. And uh's for us, uh
Speaker 23: to just keep working and s and stick together.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you guys have the players only running on Monday,
Speaker 3: Are you a little.
Speaker 22: Bit surprised, disappointed in the fundamentals today, the tackling.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're just gonna keep working.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 23: You know, there's it's not gonna be fixing one week.
Speaker 23: You know, it's continually getting better week by week. And
Speaker 23: uh it just looking looking at ourselves in the mirror.
Speaker 23: Am I giving my best effort into my on top
Speaker 23: of my assignments? And you know that's that's something we
Speaker 23: can all do. Uh, there's no point fingers and uh
Speaker 23: that's for us as pros to to to get it fixed.
Speaker 6: They ran for uh two sixty last uh two fifty?
Speaker 13: Well, uh good about five hundred the last two weeks.
Speaker 21: Is there any thing you could put your finger on
Speaker 21: in the run in the run deeper?
Speaker 23: We're gonna we're gonna fix it internally. We know what
Speaker 23: needs to be be uh be done to to stop
Speaker 23: the run game. You can't stop the run, You're not
Speaker 23: gonna win in this league. That's what it comes too.
Speaker 23: So for us, as you know, everybody just committed to it.
Speaker 8: As a defensive guy, you love those situations with a
Speaker 8: minute to go and a chance to make the play
Speaker 8: right to win the game.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you want it on your back.
Speaker 23: You know the offense did a great job driving down
Speaker 23: the field, putting us in a position to win, and
Speaker 23: we just came up short. And you know, there's no
Speaker 23: point in the fingers is again like everybody looking internally
Speaker 23: at ourselves, How can I be better? Just being the
Speaker 23: best riding themselves out there on the field, and collectively
Speaker 23: that's what we're gonna like the results if you could
Speaker 23: continue to do that.
Speaker 15: Are there times in your career, whether defenses or just
Speaker 15: teams you were on just seem like it was kind
Speaker 15: of going the wrong way no matter what you've tried,
Speaker 15: and then you guys found a way to dog guys
Speaker 15: or something you look back on and remember his keys
Speaker 15: to things like that.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I feel like in life in general, you're going
Speaker 23: to face adversities. Is how you respond. And like I
Speaker 23: said this, this team has no quit. The guys are
Speaker 23: committed to getting it right. It hasn't shown yet. Well,
Speaker 23: you know, I feel like we're continuing taking steps forward
Speaker 23: to get better.
Speaker 8: Thanks Flacko's performance, I mean, four hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 8: three hundred yards in the second half with an ac
Speaker 8: joint sprain. Are you just astounded by what that guy's doing.
Speaker 23: Yeah, guy's tough. Guy's tough. He's been playing this league
Speaker 23: for a long time. There's a reason why. And you know,
Speaker 23: for him to step up in that way coming off
Speaker 23: of you know, a cu on the throwing on that's
Speaker 23: that just shows like how much he's committed to giving
Speaker 23: his best.
Speaker 9: And for us, it's like, all right, we look at that.
Speaker 23: You know that that should inspire us to give a
Speaker 23: little bit more. So, just hats off to him the
Speaker 23: training staff for getting him right this week on a
Speaker 23: quick turnaround. You know, so we just got to get
Speaker 23: right back with the boy. We get fresh and get
Speaker 23: healthy and be ready to go.
Speaker 8: For the wrong rung with the on side kick recovery
Speaker 8: and the subsequent touchdown where you briefly thinking this is
Speaker 8: going to go down as one of the most memorable
Speaker 8: wins that I've been a part of.
Speaker 23: Man, I've been just trying to do the best I
Speaker 23: can on that one play. You know, we had one
Speaker 23: a couple of weeks ago. We had the opportunity to
Speaker 23: get the ball and then you know, I looked at Tanner,
Speaker 23: I was like, we gotta get this one. So, you know, again,
Speaker 23: just believe in each other. I feel like that's the
Speaker 23: common theme is is sticking together and believe in each other.
Speaker 23: We're gonna like we'll see at the end of the day.
Speaker 6: Along side Kick, what happened You're down in the bottom
Speaker 6: of the scrum. What was happening to you?
Speaker 23: I don't know what happened, man, I'm just trying to
Speaker 23: find a way to get it come up with the more. Yeah,
Speaker 23: I mean, that's that's part of everybody knows. The bottom
Speaker 23: of the pile can get kind of crazy. But you know,
Speaker 23: one objectives to come out with the ball, so you
Speaker 23: find a way to get that done.
Speaker 8: You always look forward to a bye week, but I
Speaker 8: think does this team really need it in the light
Speaker 8: of the last couple of weeks and how tough those
Speaker 8: losses have been.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it's coming out a good time for us,
Speaker 23: you know, just refresh our minds, refresh our bodies, and
Speaker 23: come back ready to go for the wrong Hull.
Speaker 8: Appreciate your thank you.
Speaker 2: Oron Burks after the game and Dave, we were talking
Speaker 2: about Ted Carris and his veteran presence and voice, and
Speaker 2: Oron Burks has been there, done that, He's been through
Speaker 2: winning times with the Philadelphia Eagles. He's a guy who
Speaker 2: embraces special teams. He can give you snaps on defense.
Speaker 2: He's another kind of like we talked about Sama J.
Speaker 2: P Ry just being a guy who may not be
Speaker 2: a star, but he's a guy that every roster needs
Speaker 2: if if they're going to get things done, and he
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 3: That absolutely, a guy that's versatile. Yeah, you know, can
Speaker 3: can do everything. Play the linebacker position for you do
Speaker 3: play the run, come Downhill's big enough to to stuff
Speaker 3: the running game and and uh come downhill defeat blockers.
Speaker 3: Uh shed those blockers and get off of them, and
Speaker 3: and and make plays. But he's also athletic enough with
Speaker 3: quick feet. Uh can move laterally well, can play zone
Speaker 3: or a man in your in past coverages. So you know,
Speaker 3: Al Golden loves the guy, and Darren Simmons does as well.
Speaker 3: Darren Simmons he was he was all fired up. I
Speaker 3: mean it was fun to see Darren out there running
Speaker 3: out in the field high five and shaking hands with
Speaker 3: guys even before they you know, were totally off off
Speaker 3: the football field. There were some things that drove nuts
Speaker 3: as well. He was pulling his hair out by the
Speaker 3: by the roots. Got some bald coaches today in their
Speaker 3: coaches room up there in the shower, but I mean
Speaker 3: it is, uh. Aaron Buroks is a coach's dream. He's
Speaker 3: one of those guys that just does his job and
Speaker 3: is quiet about it, doesn't raise you know, he does
Speaker 3: not try to draw try to draw attention to himself,
Speaker 3: like look at me, I'm the man, I'm the guy.
Speaker 3: Total team player.
Speaker 2: Yesterday from the special team side of things, two hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety seven yards and kickoff return yards of course,
Speaker 2: helped by Charlie Jones going ninety nine, but p Ryan
Speaker 2: had a thirty nine yard kick return, Brooks had a
Speaker 2: thirty one yard kick return. And how about the recover
Speaker 2: the on side kick Dave? Going into yesterday, there had
Speaker 2: been fifty on side kick attempts this season and they're
Speaker 2: much harder because you have to declare and the rules
Speaker 2: have changed. But only three of fifty six percent of
Speaker 2: on side kicks had been recovered and the Bengals get
Speaker 2: one yesterday.
Speaker 3: That's big. That's big. That's uh. That's Darren Simmons at
Speaker 3: his finest right there, and it is I mean, talk
Speaker 3: to him about it. With the new the new formations
Speaker 3: that you have to get into for kickoff returns, and
Speaker 3: it's all all for player safety. It's all with right
Speaker 3: intentions in mind. But I wonder if this offseason or
Speaker 3: an offseason shortly thereafter, there is not some kind of
Speaker 3: movement by special teams, coaches and maybe organizations as a
Speaker 3: whole to go back to the old way of doing things,
Speaker 3: because I mean, when when Charlie Jones was returning that kickoff, man,
Speaker 3: I was jacked up, man, you know, I mean the
Speaker 3: old the old blood was pumping. You could feel the
Speaker 3: blood pressure raising, you know, as as was going on.
Speaker 3: There's nothing like that type of excitement. That's why people
Speaker 3: pay big dollars, top dollar to go to NFL games
Speaker 3: to be entertained like that. Boy.
Speaker 2: And back to that point of the on site kick
Speaker 2: if only six percent, if you're if you're if you
Speaker 2: have a rule and you're doing something that is only
Speaker 2: successful six percent of the time, to me, that scream
Speaker 2: something has to change. It's got to be it's gotta
Speaker 2: be more productive than six percent of the I'm not
Speaker 2: saying crazy like fifty percent of on site kicker recovered,
Speaker 2: but something better than six Otherwise, what's the use?
Speaker 3: Why why would you even try it? You know, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, kick the ball deep and let your defense
Speaker 3: hopefully you can they can rise up and get a
Speaker 3: three and out and get the ball back that way.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be interesting to monitor and I
Speaker 3: see how that all tracks down heading down the stretch.
Speaker 3: Final segment in this hour. That a full third hour
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Speaker 2: Final thought. In this hour, we'll get into our third
Speaker 2: hour with more of Zach and Joe Flacco and some
Speaker 2: other things. The trade deadline is tomorrow. Interesting situation because
Speaker 2: on one hand, you want to you certainly want to
Speaker 2: do what you can when you can to help your team,
Speaker 2: but you have to weigh what you're going to give up,
Speaker 2: what you're going to get where you are in the standings.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a line you have to walk as
Speaker 2: an organization. Heading in it tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Right in the Bengals, Mike Brown values draft picks like
Speaker 3: Paul Paul always did, and Mike has the same mindset,
Speaker 3: the same mentality to the game of football. So they're
Speaker 3: not going to be irresponsible in terms of throwing draft
Speaker 3: picks around at the trade deadline. But it's going to
Speaker 3: be interesting, you know. Obviously, the biggest name that people
Speaker 3: are wondering about is Trey Hendrickson. You know, there's all
Speaker 3: kinds of social media. Trey Hendrickson wants to be traded,
Speaker 3: He's asked to be traded, He's gone, Trey Henderson, Where's
Speaker 3: he going to go? Oh? You know, they're talking about
Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts and what an acquisition that would be
Speaker 3: in reunite him with Lou and Rumo, the guy that
Speaker 3: you know was his coach when he had his big
Speaker 3: sack years back. To back seventeen and a half seasons,
Speaker 3: but I just don't think. I'm not sure they do anything.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure Trey Henderson goes anywhere. I think he
Speaker 3: may at the end of the season when the season's over,
Speaker 3: but I think he finishes this year out as a Bengal.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back into Bengals Line on this Monday night,
Speaker 2: our third and final hour. Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2: We have walked and talked our way through yesterday forty
Speaker 2: seven forty two, a lost to the Bears. Look ahead
Speaker 2: to what is up ahead for this team, and get
Speaker 2: into a couple of for things in this hour and
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Speaker 2: That's really good speedy. Yes, it's really good speedy and
Speaker 2: really fast and impressive. That's the extent of my explanation
Speaker 2: of it. Just get it and you'll be happy with
Speaker 2: Let's go there, you go. Let's let's go back to yesterday.
Speaker 2: Get more thoughts from the coach, Zach Taylor on what transpired.
Speaker 2: Here's Zach Taylor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just I can't I can't believe it. I can't
Speaker 6: believe it.
Speaker 5: Getings right there, and then we just we don't find
Speaker 5: a way to get it done and win again. We
Speaker 5: just got to make one play, just one play, and
Speaker 5: some of these losses turned to the wins, and so
Speaker 5: again we just gotta coaches with just the this week,
Speaker 5: finding a way, finding a way to help everybody and
Speaker 5: get it done.
Speaker 6: Because this is it's sick. It's sick to lose like that.
Speaker 6: It's sick. That's what happened.
Speaker 5: So we got to own it, and we got to
Speaker 5: keep finding ways to improve and and keep finding ways
Speaker 5: to find a win.
Speaker 6: The last two weeks it hasn't happened. Surprise, rustrated and whatever.
Speaker 5: Well, we we got to find a way to get
Speaker 5: them fixed. We are I mean, we're like crazy, what
Speaker 5: We're trying to do everything we can to get it done.
Speaker 5: And and so again that's so it's not because of
Speaker 5: a lack of work, lack of effort, lack of trying
Speaker 5: to cover every single stone to get it done. But
Speaker 5: but it's it is tough. This has just been the
Speaker 5: result that we're dealing with.
Speaker 6: Is there anything missing?
Speaker 5: We just got to find a way to make a play,
Speaker 5: get off field. I mean, it's it's no turnovers today,
Speaker 5: you know. And this is a team that's you know,
Speaker 5: they're going to finish plus two in the turno battle today,
Speaker 5: Chicago is and that's where all the wins have come from.
Speaker 5: And so you lose the game by five points. They're
Speaker 5: plus two in the turnovers, they've been plus three, but
Speaker 5: they've been plus four, they've been plus three a lot
Speaker 5: of their wins and so kind of more of the
Speaker 5: same for that.
Speaker 6: Exactly's a tough plus three today. I guess what they were.
Speaker 19: Probably tough game to play at a nine yard line
Speaker 19: there were you're thinking about possibly trying to force them
Speaker 19: into the final time out.
Speaker 5: We ran the ball, I mean that's what we did
Speaker 5: on the first player ran the ball. So you get
Speaker 5: cute and you forced them to do that, and then
Speaker 5: you have no points and then the game's over. So
Speaker 5: we should trust our guys to get out there and
Speaker 5: make a play. And and uh, that's that's just the
Speaker 5: way it goes.
Speaker 14: Is it as simple as bringing Colston down after he
Speaker 14: makes that catch? There just someone tackling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, get him on the ground, force him into a
Speaker 5: tough field goal, you know, at that point once the
Speaker 5: play has been completed, make him execute man again. We
Speaker 5: just didn't get him on the ground, score a touchdown.
Speaker 5: I mean in the Houston game a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: were very similar. We were right there a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago. So it's just it's that's a tough one
Speaker 5: the stomach, but it's the result is the result.
Speaker 6: And and so again I feel sick right now.
Speaker 5: But all we can do is pick ourselves up and
Speaker 5: keep fighting and That's the beauty of being in this
Speaker 5: profession and being this locker room is is we see
Speaker 5: what we're made of.
Speaker 6: We're going to keep fighting.
Speaker 5: We we know it was gonna be pretty loud noise
Speaker 5: out there, criticism, It's deserved when when we're the record
Speaker 5: we are and the results we've had. We're gonna keep
Speaker 5: showing our character and keep fighting and find a way
Speaker 5: to lead these guys and find a way to to
Speaker 5: make some plays and get some wins and and keep
Speaker 5: this season alive.
Speaker 6: That's what we're gonna do. Be fixed.
Speaker 5: We're going to find a way. We're going to do
Speaker 5: everything we can to find a way. I think it's
Speaker 5: impossible for me to say yes or no. We've been
Speaker 5: trying everything we can, so we'll just keep working at it.
Speaker 17: Four thirty eight points last week, forty two yeah this week.
Speaker 3: Most would say in the NFL, that's more than enough
Speaker 3: points to win a game.
Speaker 17: How do you manage the locker room and not having
Speaker 17: the offensive players feel any sort of reasons?
Speaker 6: We fight like hell every single day to maintain the culture.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 5: Fight every single day. Talk to everybody I can possibly
Speaker 5: talk to. We're fighting, and these guys if you've watched
Speaker 5: them practice, they're they're like hell, working working like crazy
Speaker 5: in practice.
Speaker 6: And so again, we just.
Speaker 5: Got to get someone in, got to get a play,
Speaker 5: someone builds off that play, and and we we find
Speaker 5: a way to get some momentum defense and and just
Speaker 5: haven't found a way to do that lately.
Speaker 3: Coming into the season.
Speaker 16: There's a lot of talk on defense potentially be better
Speaker 16: through nine games.
Speaker 6: Why do you think that hasn't been serio, you just
Speaker 6: got to find a way. You know, we're we're we're
Speaker 6: working hard at it.
Speaker 5: And and I know that's a that's a hard thing
Speaker 5: to listen to me say over and over.
Speaker 6: That's the answer there.
Speaker 5: There's not a magic formula that we're just gonna we
Speaker 5: do it if we if we could, and so we're
Speaker 5: just gonna keep finding ways. We got the bye week,
Speaker 5: we've got to keep working through it. See if there's
Speaker 5: something we're missing, See if there's something we can we
Speaker 5: can enhance, We'll work at it.
Speaker 16: Joe Flacco plays through the injury, has the performance he does,
Speaker 16: and you know that to go to waste essentially, how.
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of great performances day. What Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco did for us this week. You'll never forget, you know,
Speaker 5: and and I mean just knowing what our quarterback room
Speaker 5: is working through right now, what Joe Burrow is doing too,
Speaker 5: and Joe Flacco and with Jake's all the things he's done,
Speaker 5: it's a really mentally tough room that leads by example.
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco got the opportunity to show that this week.
Speaker 6: That's him.
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow working like crazy behind the scenes to do
Speaker 5: everything he can to help our team.
Speaker 6: Flacco, I mean he couldn't.
Speaker 5: He could barely lift his arm this week, you know,
Speaker 5: and he's blown to go put himself out there for
Speaker 5: a bunch of teammates that he's been with for three weeks.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: He's a football player, That's what he's out of here
Speaker 5: and said, he said, I play football for a living.
Speaker 6: That's what I do.
Speaker 5: And and oftentimes you need that throughout the locker room.
Speaker 5: Guys they are just football players and they remember that
Speaker 5: and they'll go out there and do whatever it takes
Speaker 5: to help their team win a game, no matter what
Speaker 5: normack of the circumstances.
Speaker 6: Got a bye week next week, get a chance to
Speaker 6: get rested up.
Speaker 5: That's how Joe Flacco looks at it, and so he
Speaker 5: went out there and put himself on the line. I'm
Speaker 5: sure he's gonna be in a ton of pain tomorrow,
Speaker 5: and we'll give him ten days off and we'll see
Speaker 5: if you can come back and do it again.
Speaker 1: A terrific game, But what happened on that intentional then
Speaker 1: down kind of look.
Speaker 6: Like we're missing. Yeah, we were checking to play and
Speaker 6: did everybody get it?
Speaker 4: The field goal was after after that the decision was.
Speaker 5: Out of It's a tough decision. It's a tough decision.
Speaker 5: You know, you're it's tough. You know whether that was
Speaker 5: the right thing to do or not. I'll have to
Speaker 5: reflect on that. It's a split second decision because now
Speaker 5: now you know you're in your head, you're thinking fourth
Speaker 5: and three or less potentially, and so then you've got
Speaker 5: to shift very fast to the decision to kick the
Speaker 5: field goal and okay, now you're down four and hope
Speaker 5: to get another possession to stop and go in the game.
Speaker 5: So it was tricky that that was decision we made
Speaker 5: obviously didn't work out, and and I'll have to digest
Speaker 5: if if I made the right one there. I'm going
Speaker 5: to keep fighting. The coach you're going to keep fighting.
Speaker 5: I know these players have shown that they're going to
Speaker 5: keep fighting. It's frustrating for everybody to put in the
Speaker 5: work that's being put in, and this is the result
Speaker 5: we've had. It's it's frustrating. And and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes you got to take a deep breath and then
Speaker 5: then come back to work and try to uplift others.
Speaker 5: That that's I faced a lot of diversity here. Uh,
Speaker 5: and and the only thing I know how to do
Speaker 5: is keep trying to lift people up. That doesn't mean
Speaker 5: we run from corrections, that doesn't mean we don't give criticism.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, the easy thing to do
Speaker 5: is question everything and point fingers and and and uh
Speaker 5: be negative and and be an energy vampire in a
Speaker 5: lot of ways. And I think we got enough guys
Speaker 5: that just want to continue to lift people up and
Speaker 5: fin answers, find solutions, help where they can make myself better,
Speaker 5: make the person next to me better. And that's that's
Speaker 5: all I know how to do. That's how we built
Speaker 5: the coaching staff that does that too. We built a
Speaker 5: locker room full of leaders and great men that are
Speaker 5: that are following suit there. And that's what I've seen
Speaker 5: from them, and that's just what we're going to continue
Speaker 5: to do. And I don't have something I can say
Speaker 5: that's going to say we we we're just going to
Speaker 5: fix this and things are going to be better.
Speaker 6: It's not that simple.
Speaker 5: I wish it was, but I can promise you we're
Speaker 5: gonna find, like kel to to keep keep finding when's
Speaker 5: here and get the season turned around.
Speaker 14: Like the tackling issues, especially when.
Speaker 6: We work quite crazy at it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's always seemed to talk about and
Speaker 5: work on, and we have to improve.
Speaker 17: After loss, like especially these last two.
Speaker 5: Do you now going into the buy are you looking
Speaker 5: at all personnel for trades, for switches in house?
Speaker 6: I keep working with the players we got. That's that's
Speaker 6: what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna keep finding solutions with the guys we have,
Speaker 5: and if something else comes at us, so be it.
Speaker 6: But that's.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna work with the players we got in here,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna keep finding solutions to what's going on
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 6: Be tough here at home.
Speaker 14: Really, going back to the start of last year, does
Speaker 14: that add just a little more frustration to this whole thing?
Speaker 4: Big picture, just how tough. It's been to win here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's frustrating.
Speaker 5: I mean, you use our fans, they show up for us,
Speaker 5: and you got to give them something.
Speaker 6: You got to give them something.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor after the game yesterday and now as they
Speaker 2: hit the bye week, we've talked about the precarious situation
Speaker 2: and they're in and if you're a he this is
Speaker 2: a challenge for Zach because you've got eight games left.
Speaker 2: It's it's one thing if you're down on the stretching,
Speaker 2: you got a game just to finish out the season.
Speaker 2: There's eight games left. This is not certainly a throw
Speaker 2: in the towel point of the season. This is salvage
Speaker 2: this thing season and this is a very delicate situation
Speaker 2: they're in right now.
Speaker 3: It is it is. It's an important eight games for
Speaker 3: the football future. Zach Taylor, y you know, I mean
Speaker 3: and his coaching staff. I mean, I think now Zach
Speaker 3: will find out what players think about him as a
Speaker 3: head football coach, because now they're backs up against the wall,
Speaker 3: and how they're gonna respond. They're gonna come out swinging.
Speaker 3: Are they just gonna say, you know it's over, We're done.
Speaker 3: Whatever happens happens. Let the organization do what they need
Speaker 3: to do. Maybe we need a change. Who knows, Maybe
Speaker 3: that's the best thing that could possibly happen. But I
Speaker 3: do know that Joe Burrow thinks the world is Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow carries a lot of weight. And Mike
Speaker 3: Brown has always liked offensive minded coaches like a Bill Walsh,
Speaker 3: So he has a lot of respect for the football
Speaker 3: intellect and IQ of Zach Taylor as well. And Zach's
Speaker 3: a hell of a football coach. I mean, the guy,
Speaker 3: grinds man. He puts in the time. He is a grinder.
Speaker 3: He loves the game, understands the game. It's a football family.
Speaker 3: His brother Press was the pass game coordinator in yesterday's
Speaker 3: football game. You know they grew up playing football against
Speaker 3: each other, being very competitive. I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: a way of life for the Taylor family. There's no question.
Speaker 2: Let's take a time out and continue. We'll get more
Speaker 2: from Joe Flacco on yesterday's game and what is ahead
Speaker 2: for this team through his eyes, He's Dave Lapham. I'm alliance,
Speaker 2: but cantlister Bengals One and the Bengals Radio Network and
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, building along on this
Speaker 2: Monday night at Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 2: in ESPN fifteen to thirty Lianes. But cauntlister Dave Lapham,
Speaker 2: let's get more to Joe Flaho's performance yesterday, and Dave
Speaker 2: amazing to think it was his one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: ninth career start yesterday, and it was the first time
Speaker 2: he'd thrown for four hundred yards in a game. What
Speaker 2: a What a What an afternoon? What a performance? When
Speaker 2: you throw for force, you'd never thrown for four hundred
Speaker 2: he throws for four seventy yesterday. And as we said earlier,
Speaker 2: all things considered, it's kind of hard to believe he
Speaker 2: did what he did.
Speaker 3: It really is. I Mean, all I can say is
Speaker 3: they got to keep Joe Flacco after this year. I
Speaker 3: know he's signed a one year deal, yes, but when
Speaker 3: Joel Barrow is healthy and back as the Bengals starting quarterback,
Speaker 3: and that's what's gonna happen. You know, Joe Flacco will
Speaker 3: you know, bow out and Joe Borrow will assume the
Speaker 3: duties and enrolled of the starting quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 3: But Joe Flacco, who's got a better number two than
Speaker 3: that in the National Football League. I mean, that's a
Speaker 3: heck of a one two punch. That's a heck of
Speaker 3: a of a of a dual at the quarterback position
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. And one of them's got
Speaker 3: eighteen years experience and is over forty years old, and
Speaker 3: the other one is a guy that is an MVP candidate,
Speaker 3: in my mind, the best in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: So to have those two guys putting their heads together
Speaker 3: on a weekly basis and making contributions to game planning,
Speaker 3: I'm sure Zach Tayler would be very open to. Hey, Zach,
Speaker 3: I really like that concept. I'm not too keen on
Speaker 3: that one, but that one's really good. I don't think
Speaker 3: there'd be a problem with that. I don't think Zach's
Speaker 3: that you go, you know, artistical. I think he's I
Speaker 3: think he's you know, down to earth in that regard.
Speaker 3: And Dan Pitcher as well. So I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of good years ahead at the quarterback position with
Speaker 3: the two Joes.
Speaker 2: Here is more from Joe on his day and the
Speaker 2: afternoon as a whole.
Speaker 19: Joe Flacco from our perspective, understanding that it's emotional after
Speaker 19: a loss like that, But it looks like some of
Speaker 19: the offensive players are gaining some tension towards the deepens.
Speaker 4: I know you talked about it a little bit like that.
Speaker 6: But what do you do as a veteran?
Speaker 7: Well, I just be the same person every day, uh,
Speaker 7: and don't get frustrated from that. And I go to
Speaker 7: those guys just like you do. And you don't necessarily
Speaker 7: have to talk about that specifically, but you just have
Speaker 7: good conversations with guys about, you know, doing good things
Speaker 7: and going to work and.
Speaker 4: Taking pride in what you do. And I think when
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 7: Those things then you're not just then then you don't
Speaker 7: have time to get mad at people that you can't
Speaker 7: You shouldn't be getting.
Speaker 4: Mad at you know, we got enough to worry about.
Speaker 7: Every one of us have enough to worry about on
Speaker 7: our own plates that you can't be worrying about everybody else,
Speaker 7: because then all of a sudden, once again, it's going
Speaker 7: to be a tough eight weeks for us if we're
Speaker 7: worrying about what other people are doing. I know, team
Speaker 7: is one, it's one team. In order to have that
Speaker 7: one team, you need to.
Speaker 4: Focus on yourself and do your job. And I get
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 7: It can get emotional, but you know there's times to
Speaker 7: be emotional.
Speaker 4: And and and show people that and.
Speaker 7: But usually when those times are good in good things
Speaker 7: and towards people you love. And I think if we're emotional,
Speaker 7: then we should come at it with an angle of
Speaker 7: this is my brother, as opposed to the opposite of that.
Speaker 7: I just think that's what good, hard working, tough people do.
Speaker 4: They don't look at other people.
Speaker 7: They look inward, and it doesn't matter what the situation is,
Speaker 7: they look inward.
Speaker 16: What was the connection with t so successful today?
Speaker 4: He's really good.
Speaker 7: I hate to be so simple and have such a
Speaker 7: bad answer, but I mean, did you see the catch
Speaker 7: you make? Let that go route for the first touchdown?
Speaker 7: I think it was the first touchdown was incredible. I
Speaker 7: mean I was laughing. It was just stupid. It was
Speaker 7: it was crazy, and I think everybody kind of realized it.
Speaker 7: It was just I mean, I kind of I had
Speaker 7: one on one with them. I don't really know if
Speaker 7: I should have thrown it up or just come down,
Speaker 7: but I'm like, it's.
Speaker 4: One on one. I'll put one up there. And as
Speaker 4: I let it go. I was kind of I honestly.
Speaker 7: Was kind of like, ah, I don't know, and next thing,
Speaker 7: you know, was a touchdown.
Speaker 6: So were the last twenty four hours like we're getting.
Speaker 18: Prema get ready way.
Speaker 4: I think Thursday was like Thursday was the thing. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, once I went out there.
Speaker 7: And practiced on Thursday, I knew that I would be
Speaker 7: ready to play on Sunday. So then it was just
Speaker 7: kind of managing my shoulder throughout the week.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm lucky.
Speaker 7: I've played a lot of games, so I didn't feel
Speaker 7: like I had to go out there and get a
Speaker 7: ton of practice reps. And I probably would have felt
Speaker 7: like that anyway, but thankfully the coaching staff also felt
Speaker 7: comfortable with me not you know, not getting a ton
Speaker 7: of practice reps. I think that's the biggest thing is
Speaker 7: it's going to be tough to practice, and as long
Speaker 7: as I know that I can get through Sundays, then
Speaker 7: I feel good about it.
Speaker 16: We'll get to talk to you again before y'all going by,
Speaker 16: what do you how, given how you can out sand
Speaker 16: and those pro social early.
Speaker 6: What do you kind of need to be able to
Speaker 6: do and need to feel about.
Speaker 3: Playing when you get back from the buy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well listen, I finished the game last week, I
Speaker 7: played this week. I mean, it's not even in my
Speaker 7: mind that I I you know, I wouldn't be able
Speaker 7: to do something like that. So now it's just about
Speaker 7: getting rest and getting as healthy as possible. And obviously
Speaker 7: this week is you know, we got two weeks before
Speaker 7: we play again, so that's that's hopefully that helps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, locked in, how important and how proud.
Speaker 2: Of are are you of those wide receivers and Chase
Speaker 2: Brown and those guys that caught that ball for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And extremely I mean I make sure I go to
Speaker 7: everybody in that locker room after after a game and
Speaker 7: just tell them how much I appreciate them.
Speaker 4: You know, my job is not possible.
Speaker 7: You know, Quarterbacks get so much publicity and credit for
Speaker 7: so many things, but you're really just out there dishing
Speaker 7: the ball around, and without the guys up front, first
Speaker 7: of all, you know, you can't do that. And without
Speaker 7: guys out there making spectacular plays and taking little catches
Speaker 7: and for touchdowns and all those things.
Speaker 4: You know they are.
Speaker 7: I mean that's why, like people always ask me, like,
Speaker 7: who'd you like when you were growing up? I mean,
Speaker 7: I always liked receivers and running backs because those are
Speaker 7: the guys that are out there like making the plays.
Speaker 7: And now that I've gotten to play, now you have
Speaker 7: a true, just a true appreciation for the guys up front.
Speaker 7: Like that's really where the game is won and lost.
Speaker 4: Is right there up front.
Speaker 7: So I just view myself as somebody that's lucky enough
Speaker 7: to kind of be the guy that gets to play
Speaker 7: with some of these guys. And so yeah, every time
Speaker 7: I get to play with these guys, I know what
Speaker 7: everybody's giving weekend and week out and laying it all
Speaker 7: out there, so you appreciate being with every single one
Speaker 7: of them.
Speaker 2: Dave one of the one quote I love from Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: and he was asked about a stage in the season
Speaker 2: where maybe some friction starts or some cracks with the
Speaker 2: offense and defense and one team doing their job and
Speaker 2: the other maybe not doing it as well, and Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco said, you have to have good conversations with guys
Speaker 2: about going to work and taking pride in what you do.
Speaker 2: I think when you do those things, you don't have
Speaker 2: time to get mad at people that you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: getting mad at. Every one of US has enough to
Speaker 2: worry about on our own plates that you can't be
Speaker 2: worrying about everybody else. Team is one, it's one team.
Speaker 2: In order to have that one team, you need to
Speaker 2: focus on yourself and do your job. I just think
Speaker 2: that's what's good, hard working and tough people do. That
Speaker 2: is a very powerful statement from a very wise individual.
Speaker 3: If I'm Joe Flacco's parents, I'm listening to that and
Speaker 3: I'm going, yep, I raise my kid, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: he understands, he understands what it takes. Not just football.
Speaker 3: I wish, you know, more people had that mindset, that
Speaker 3: attitude about their job and their work on a day
Speaker 3: to day basis. You know, yep, I mean the United
Speaker 3: States of America may even be more productive. It's a
Speaker 3: world power, but it might even be more productive. Joe
Speaker 3: is very very intelligent in conversations with him, not just
Speaker 3: from a football standpoint, but across the board. I mean,
Speaker 3: pick a subject, Joe Burrow has an opinion and and
Speaker 3: and can do some commentary on it.
Speaker 9: So I.
Speaker 3: I really I think he's been a big, big addition,
Speaker 3: not just the way he plays the game with that
Speaker 3: powerful throwing arm, but the way he handles himself the
Speaker 3: way he comports himself on the football field, in the
Speaker 3: locker room, out in the community. Uh, he's a He's
Speaker 3: definitely a big, big plus in the Bengals organization.
Speaker 2: Needed to take the time out when we come back,
Speaker 2: David I thought, well, we've got some time here in
Speaker 2: the final half hour. It would be only fitting if
Speaker 2: we talked about sadly the passing of our our dear
Speaker 2: friend Bob Trump and from a couple of different standpoints,
Speaker 2: Bob Trumpey the player and Bob Trumpy the broadcaster, in
Speaker 2: a couple of segments. Can we do that? As we
Speaker 2: can tell you is Dave Lapham. I'm Lance, but Cantlester.
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Speaker 2: Dave the sad news yesterday, and it broke as the
Speaker 2: afternoon was beginning to unfold for Bengals football. Was the
Speaker 2: passing of Bengals legend, a broadcasting legend. I always called
Speaker 2: him the godfather of sports talk, Bob trump He sadly
Speaker 2: passing away at the age of eighty years old, friend
Speaker 2: of both of ours, teammate of yours, and meant the
Speaker 2: world to I think both of us. And I thought
Speaker 2: we could break up a couple of segments and talk
Speaker 2: about Trumpet the player in one segment, and Trumpet the
Speaker 2: broadcaster and the other. And just man in watching the
Speaker 2: highlights of him the football player, every time, I was
Speaker 2: struck by the same thing. Just his body is a
Speaker 2: tight end, and the wide shoulders and that gallop after
Speaker 2: catching the ball. I can't imagine what he was like
Speaker 2: for for a great cooker Ken Anderson to throw the
Speaker 2: football too, and the way he changed that offense with
Speaker 2: what he could do as a tight end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was a generational player, he really was.
Speaker 3: He changed the game of football for the tight end position.
Speaker 3: I mean he is. I mean there have been great
Speaker 3: tight ends, you know John Mackie's and tight ends like
Speaker 3: that that have have definitely said changed the world in
Speaker 3: terms of how do you defend these guys They're so
Speaker 3: big and they're so fast and so athletical. Bob Trump,
Speaker 3: he was right there, right there with the greatest of
Speaker 3: all time. I think Bob Trump, he deserves to be,
Speaker 3: you know, honored in that in that same breath as
Speaker 3: a lot of those guys coat hanger shoulders. You talked
Speaker 3: about the broad shoulders. I mean, I'm not kidding. I
Speaker 3: looked at that dude and I'm like, Holy macro, look
Speaker 3: at how wide that dude's shoulders are. Man, And the
Speaker 3: Good Lord blessed him. The Good Lord reached down and
Speaker 3: you know, tapped him on the head and said, this
Speaker 3: is this is the way you're going to be built,
Speaker 3: you know. And he was trim wasted, you know, and
Speaker 3: and long legs, and he could run I'd say sub
Speaker 3: four five four or five worst case scenario low four
Speaker 3: fives and and many they'd isolate him with that size
Speaker 3: speed ratio. He had one of the greatest size speed
Speaker 3: ratios I think I've ever seen. And as long as
Speaker 3: I played football, he was in the top three, if
Speaker 3: not the best, in terms of size speed ratio. Long legs,
Speaker 3: long arms, you know, soft hand, caught the football very
Speaker 3: very effortlessly, and very intelligent. You know, ran tremendous routes.
Speaker 3: He'd read coverages, Bill Walsh a lot. He wanted a
Speaker 3: quarterback and and tight end and receivers to be on
Speaker 3: the same page as the quarterback on pre snap looks
Speaker 3: of coverages. And Bob Trump he was as good as
Speaker 3: there was in that area. And that trans related to
Speaker 3: his career as a broadcaster. There's nothing that Bob Trump
Speaker 3: he didn't see, you know. I mean, he was very
Speaker 3: astute and understood the game of football as well as
Speaker 3: anybody ever.
Speaker 2: Did well in speaking of seeing things, we marvel about
Speaker 2: Paul Brown's eye for talent. We talked about Lamar Parrish
Speaker 2: last week, taking him out of a small school. But
Speaker 2: Bob started that Illinois, wound up at Utah, was a
Speaker 2: twelfth round pick out of Utah. But when Paul and
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh and Tiger Johnson got a hold of him,
Speaker 2: and what I mean, he in nineteen sixty nine, I
Speaker 2: don't know if people fully comprehend and appreciate this. In
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, Bob Trumpy averaged twenty two point six
Speaker 2: yards a catch. That's twenty two point six yards of
Speaker 2: catches a tight end. For his career, he averaged fifteen
Speaker 2: point four yards of catch. That's incredible.
Speaker 3: It is it is. I mean that's better than wide
Speaker 3: receivers of his era in terms of stretching the football field.
Speaker 3: And Paul Brown very wise, man, you know. I mean
Speaker 3: he saw Bob Trumpy when they went to scout him,
Speaker 3: and Mike was involved with that decision making process as well.
Speaker 3: They went out to Utah. He was a good play
Speaker 3: He was a star player on the basketball team at
Speaker 3: Utah and one of the leading rebounders. Could score, I mean,
Speaker 3: played Bengal basketball, you know where you go around in
Speaker 3: the office storming games. Yeah, and go play faculty, you know,
Speaker 3: members of schools for fundraisers and everything. And Trump could play. Man.
Speaker 3: He was physical, He played hard. He was a really
Speaker 3: good basketball player, and it translated to his game on
Speaker 3: the football field as a tight end. I mean, he
Speaker 3: was he was a prototype. He teams were looking for
Speaker 3: the next Bob Trumpy and that was the way it
Speaker 3: was for a number of years.
Speaker 2: And I thought Kenny Anderson put it perfectly this morning.
Speaker 2: He tweeted, simply, Bob Trumpy was Gronk before Gronk, and
Speaker 2: I thought that was wow. That is very well said,
Speaker 2: putting into context what his skills were. For people today
Speaker 2: who think of Rob Gronkowski, that was Bob Trumpy.
Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed, And you know, everybody looks at Gronk and like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's a little Dodo bird A. Gronk has
Speaker 3: got tremendous football IQ. Tom Brady will talk about it,
Speaker 3: how smart Gronk is and the adjustments to Gronk would
Speaker 3: suggest to Bill Belichick and to Tom Brady. Trumpy was
Speaker 3: the same way Trump. He had come off the field
Speaker 3: and say to Kenny Anderson and you know, and Paul
Speaker 3: Brown and Bill Walsh's look, they're doing this. I think
Speaker 3: if we put me in motion and change the strength
Speaker 3: of the formation, You're not gonna adapt quickly enough. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get off the line of scrimmage, of free release.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hurt people down the football field. And they agree,
Speaker 3: we'd do it. And Trump knew what he was talking about. Man,
Speaker 3: there'd always be a big play.
Speaker 2: Let's take a time out of come back. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about Bob Trumpy, the broadcaster from NBC to Sports Talk
Speaker 2: at all that came with it. Holy cow man. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we have enough time to cover everything
Speaker 2: he did. From a broadcasting side, boyd we'll get into
Speaker 2: it next. He's Dave Lappam my alliance, Bacalister. It's Bengals
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back to Bengals Line. And on
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Speaker 2: We continue remembering Bob Trump, he who sadly passed away yesterday,
Speaker 2: and from a broadcasting standpoint, I always called him, with
Speaker 2: great reverence, the godfather of sports talk because he he
Speaker 2: created it. I'll never forget a conversation I had with
Speaker 2: him where he had heard Bill Russell doing sports talk
Speaker 2: radio in LA in Boston and thought, man, would it
Speaker 2: work here could I do it here? And from that
Speaker 2: grew the sports talk and just his his presence on
Speaker 2: the radio and that voice there was just there was
Speaker 2: no one like him, there's been There was no one
Speaker 2: like him before, There's been no one like him since.
Speaker 2: He just had a command. When you tuned into him,
Speaker 2: it just felt and sounded big, like he had control
Speaker 2: of everything. And as I always say, as a kid
Speaker 2: in an era where there were no podcast or anything,
Speaker 2: if you wanted the gospel of sports talk, what was
Speaker 2: going on in Cincinnati, you turned on your radio at
Speaker 2: six o'clock and you just waited for Bob Trumpy to
Speaker 2: say something. And you knew if you wanted to know
Speaker 2: how to feel about something or what the reaction was
Speaker 2: to something, you turned and said, what does Bob have
Speaker 2: to say? And Bob made sure that you knew he
Speaker 2: was right, I mean all the time about whatever.
Speaker 3: He was true.
Speaker 2: But that was part of the charm of Bob Trumpy.
Speaker 2: You had your opinion and you were wrong. He had
Speaker 2: hit his opinion and he was right. But it was
Speaker 2: just when he said it, there was just something to it,
Speaker 2: magical and powerful to it.
Speaker 3: That's a great way to put it. Last, I mean
Speaker 3: you know, you were around Trump for a lot of years.
Speaker 3: You know him as well as anyone. I when I
Speaker 3: heard him talk when I got drafted and came into
Speaker 3: the the locker room for basically mini camp is what
Speaker 3: it was back in the day in the in the
Speaker 3: mid seventies. I heard this voice and I tried, that's
Speaker 3: the voice of God. What what is going on? Am
Speaker 3: I in football Heaven? What is the voice of God
Speaker 3: doing here in the city of Cincinnati? And uh? And
Speaker 3: it was Bob Trumpy And this guy, like you said, Lance,
Speaker 3: for years and years the he covered the big events,
Speaker 3: the Olympics, super Bowls, you know, Trump, he had all
Speaker 3: that on his resume. I mean for a guy.
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, yeah, three Olympics, crazy, three Ryder Cups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, come on, now we're talking horse racing. Trump.
Speaker 3: He but he could make anything exciting with that voice,
Speaker 3: you know, and he and he'd raised it, he'd uh.
Speaker 3: He had tremendous cadence and voice inflection, you know, and
Speaker 3: he knew how to naturally, knew how to handle all
Speaker 3: of that. He was something special. There's no question. I mean,
Speaker 3: the broadcast world lost a legend. And I'm serious. He
Speaker 3: should be there should be an award given to NFL
Speaker 3: broadcasters on NBC, CBS, Fox, whatever, the Bob Trump Award,
Speaker 3: you know, for the best analyst played by play guys
Speaker 3: aren't eligible, sorry, but for the best analyst of the year,
Speaker 3: and it would be an annual thing, the Bob Trump Award. Now,
Speaker 3: I'll I'll go to the grave trying to get that done.
Speaker 2: He man, when when you tuned into NBC and it
Speaker 2: was the NFL with him, or whether it was Don Krickey
Speaker 2: or Dick Enberg or Charlie Jones, just just the way
Speaker 2: in and he had you know, clearly he had his
Speaker 2: thoughts on former players versus media, and what meat he
Speaker 2: knew versus what a former player. He put so much
Speaker 2: effort into his analysis. It wasn't he had strong opinions,
Speaker 2: but it was always backed by something he worked on
Speaker 2: the preparation for the broadcast. That's what I had such
Speaker 2: an appreciation for. It was strong and it was powerful,
Speaker 2: but it was backed by his experience and what he
Speaker 2: put into a broadcast.
Speaker 3: Right on Lance. And I talked to many assistant coaches
Speaker 3: over the years that said, man, Trump wore me out.
Speaker 3: All he would do. I need another tape, need another game.
Speaker 3: I think I feel pretty good about it. But you know,
Speaker 3: I just I just want to confirm a couple of things.
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure I'm right on a
Speaker 3: couple of things that you guys do for masonally and
Speaker 3: why you do it, and and the production meetings. Coaches
Speaker 3: loved going to production meetings with you know, Krickie or
Speaker 3: Edinburgh and Bob Trumpy because they knew that he was prepared,
Speaker 3: they knew he had done that, they knew he'd done
Speaker 3: his homework before showing up. And instead of like, hey,
Speaker 3: give me something I can use in the game, you know,
Speaker 3: do my job for me. Trumpy was never about that.
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, I'm a big boy, I'm getting
Speaker 3: paid handsomely. I can do this for myself.
Speaker 2: And he said an example he especially here and with
Speaker 2: this franchise. He I would think the the pioneer aspect
Speaker 2: of former player into broadcasting in doors and opportunities opened that.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. You and Chris Collinsworth and Salmon,
Speaker 2: Willcotts and Boomeri Siasen and Sam Weish to David Pollock,
Speaker 2: to others, Tequio Spikes, Andre Andrew Hawkins, so many former
Speaker 2: Bengals came through playing into broadcasting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true. And you know it was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: if Trump can do it. He was a trailblazer. He
Speaker 3: was the Daniel Boone. You know, he was the guy
Speaker 3: that paved the way for everybody else to get an opportunity.
Speaker 3: And uh, and you wanted to do well because you
Speaker 3: knew Trumpy had done extraordinarily. Well, I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: he made. He left his mark, There's no question about that.
Speaker 3: And it was a it was a very very positive
Speaker 3: mark on the game of football as a player and
Speaker 3: as a as a broadcaster. And he was more than
Speaker 3: solid at both. I mean Hall of Fame. Uh, borderline
Speaker 3: efforts in both.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what when when he came to
Speaker 2: sports talk and it's I've talked about it all the time.
Speaker 2: I grew up listening to him. I call him once
Speaker 2: a week. I'd arguing with him as a as a
Speaker 2: young kid. He'd hang up on me. We got a
Speaker 2: new an argument up Buddy Bell and Wayne Crenchickey one time,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking him arguing Wayne Crenchikey and Buddy Bell
Speaker 2: with Bob Trumpia. I called him from a vague family vacation.
Speaker 2: One time I was like fourteen years old. I called
Speaker 2: from Cape Cod. Oh, They'll never forget him saying, why
Speaker 2: are you calling from Cape Cod? I want to talk
Speaker 2: about the Reds. But and when when I had a
Speaker 2: chance to to then work with him and do the
Speaker 2: Friday Bengals pep rally and we did a roundtable show
Speaker 2: walk here on Thursday nights with him. But I used
Speaker 2: to always marvel. He would boy, we butted heads and
Speaker 2: clash it and I'd say something and he'd look at
Speaker 2: me and peer at me over those glasses and he'd say,
Speaker 2: you've clearly never played the game before. I would just
Speaker 2: know how to get going. And I always had a way.
Speaker 2: I'd learned certain things that would push his buttons. And
Speaker 2: I'd say, like on a daylight today, where I'd want
Speaker 2: a statement made by the organization, they need to do something.
Speaker 2: They need to make statement. And he looked at me
Speaker 2: and say statement, and he do that big booming laugh.
Speaker 2: You and your statements, You just always want to make statements.
Speaker 2: I was like, that was such Bob Trump. I used
Speaker 2: to drive him nuts with that. He drive me nuts
Speaker 2: with things.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you he was he was great with
Speaker 3: if he was on the losing end or realized he was,
Speaker 3: it was going downhill for him. From an argument standpoint.
Speaker 3: You never played the game, That's what That was his
Speaker 3: catch all. You know, that was the that was the
Speaker 3: saving the savingology right there. Have you played the game?
Speaker 3: You never played the game. And he got that from
Speaker 3: Paul Brown. He heard Paul Brown say that many times
Speaker 3: to people in the media. You think you know everything
Speaker 3: about football, son, you've never played the game.
Speaker 2: And the beauty and the and the power of Trump.
Speaker 2: Only Bob Trumpy could one call up Bob Knight and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's come on you, hey, come on Sports Talk. I
Speaker 2: spend an hour with Bob Knight on Sports Talk and
Speaker 2: side they were gonna blow out all the commercials. Play
Speaker 2: none of the commercials because I'm going to keep the
Speaker 2: General for the entire hour. Only Bob Trump he would
Speaker 2: have the power to say, I'm talking with the General
Speaker 2: for an hour and just I'm sure Doug Kidd or
Speaker 2: whoever was like, you know, break take time out, and
Speaker 2: just kept talking, kept talking, kept talking. No commercials figured
Speaker 2: out later, I've got the general lie and then.
Speaker 3: The guys would have to figure it out later. The
Speaker 3: sales managers and to make good commercials, you know. And man,
Speaker 3: what kind of damage would Trump do this week?
Speaker 18: You know?
Speaker 2: Or remember he would he would make the hot fudge
Speaker 2: Sunday bets with callers and then pay it off at
Speaker 2: the UDF down below and Mount Adams across the street. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I will never forget the year in the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 2: he swore up and down that Houston would never lose
Speaker 2: to North Carolina State. He said, North Carolina State shouldn't
Speaker 2: even get on the bus and go to the game
Speaker 2: because Houston's gonna beat him in North Carolina State wins.
Speaker 2: And he had to pay off so many bets for that,
Speaker 2: and it was just he was one of a kind.
Speaker 2: He was absolutely one of a kind.
Speaker 3: Broke them all, There's no question about it. And my
Speaker 3: heart goes out to Pat the sons because and Jason,
Speaker 3: they lost, They lost a husband, father, great man, I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, and and literally literally Lance, I feel like
Speaker 3: this guy, tremendous player, tremendous broadcasters, should be in the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And a final thought, just from my standpoint,
Speaker 2: and he is. He's remembered as somebody who could be
Speaker 2: gruff and rough, and they had that booming voice. But
Speaker 2: to me and the defining moment of the relationship I
Speaker 2: had with Bob Trump, he had nothing to do with
Speaker 2: a show. When when my son Casey was diagnosed with leukemia,
Speaker 2: Bob Trumpy was the very first phone call I got.
Speaker 2: That's amazing and said whatever you need, whenever you needed
Speaker 2: and said I will be a bone marrow donor if
Speaker 2: you need one, and I will. I will never forget
Speaker 2: that moment in my life and what it meant to
Speaker 2: our face and that to me, For all the tales
Speaker 2: I can tell of Bob Trumpy, that is the one
Speaker 2: that means the most of it, and that's him.
Speaker 9: Do a tea.
Speaker 3: When I think, when I think of Bob Trumpy on
Speaker 3: his obituary, it should say football and family. Yep, that's
Speaker 3: what he was about. He was about football, playing the game,
Speaker 3: and about his football family, and then also about his
Speaker 3: football family, you know, off the football field, his true family,
Speaker 3: his wife, Pat, his sons and everything we already talked about.
Speaker 3: He was unique. One on one. They broke the mold man.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. We'll take our final time out,
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Speaker 2: Right, we wrap it up the bye next week, no
Speaker 2: show next week, and man, I go back to what
Speaker 2: we said off the top, Imagine the difference had they
Speaker 2: had they won yesterday in dramatic fashion, two touchdowns in
Speaker 2: the final forty nine minutes, get the wind pulled a
Speaker 2: four and five, You get to hit the buy and
Speaker 2: relax on that joy and belief that you've created with
Speaker 2: the win. And now you gotta sit on yesterday's loss.
Speaker 2: You got the trade deadline coming up. There's uncertainty in
Speaker 2: so many places right, Just such a change in emotions
Speaker 2: after yesterday.
Speaker 3: Man, you know, it's like you go into a into
Speaker 3: a bye week and there's a cloud hanging over your
Speaker 3: head following you into that bye week. You know, it's
Speaker 3: like it could have been a sunny sunny time, could
Speaker 3: have been joined the beach. You know, go lay out
Speaker 3: layout on the beach during the bye week literally but
Speaker 3: not to be so. Now you've got to figure out
Speaker 3: a way to turn the worm. And it's going to
Speaker 3: turn quickly because, quite honestly, on a week by week basis,
Speaker 3: these games melt away. You're the sand runs out of
Speaker 3: the uh, out of the whatever. The class there, thank you, sir,
Speaker 3: the hour glass and and you're running out of time
Speaker 3: and it's it's a you can't panic. You got to
Speaker 3: make sure you take care of business and you and
Speaker 3: you do it the right way, but you got to
Speaker 3: do it quickly.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't get any easier.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: You got Steelers still. Hey, you got the Patriots, who
Speaker 2: are better than everybody, but you got the Ravens twice.
Speaker 2: You got Buffalo, oh man.
Speaker 3: And not just great players, but the coaches. I mean,
Speaker 3: think of the coaches, the head coaches and the coaching
Speaker 3: staffs on those on those football teams. You know, you
Speaker 3: got Tom and you have Rabel, I mean, you get
Speaker 3: you got guys that are hard nosed, get after a
Speaker 3: type of football people. You know, they were players themselves
Speaker 3: and uh and then when they were done playing, wanted
Speaker 3: to commit their rest of their lives to to the
Speaker 3: coaching profession and their working lives. So I'll tell you
Speaker 3: what not gonna be an easy task, But that's life
Speaker 3: from the National Football League. Man. If you're not ready
Speaker 3: to accept the challenge, you shouldn't be here, you know.
Speaker 2: Final thought, As you were mentioning the sand and searching
Speaker 2: for the word, I flashed, of all things to the
Speaker 2: soap opera. What's the soap opera with the hour glass?
Speaker 2: Is the days of our lives?
Speaker 3: World turns?
Speaker 2: What are those two look at me? Going to soap
Speaker 2: operas to come up with the words. I just remember
Speaker 2: the open of that soap opera was like like sand
Speaker 2: through the hour the sand of our lives through the
Speaker 2: hour glass or whatever that line was from the soap opera.
Speaker 2: And we're officially done.
Speaker 3: And totally done.
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