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Bottom of the r will break 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.519 away on seven hundred. For UC basketball, let's get to it. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.600 David was a well, let's see in what order. It 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.040 was a wildly entertaining game that had it all, that 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.440 put us on an emotional roller coaster that was ultimately 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.120 frustrating and disappointing. And I'll defer to Zach who said, simply, 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.920 I can't believe it, because I think a lot of 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.040 people at that moment we've been waking up this morning, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.000 we're saying I can't believe it. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.800 Yeah, I'm one of those guys. I'm waking up raising 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.400 my hand, can't believe it. I mean, you talk about 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.480 a lot of things happening during the course of a 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.080 football game, you know, some very very good and some 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:21.400 very very ugly. That was a roller coaster, that was 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:26.320 a wild ride yesterday. Man, the Chicago Bears, you have 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.200 the two quarterbacks played so well. I mean they both 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.280 had a quarterback rating of over one hundred, one hundred 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.880 point four. For Joe Flacco, he completed almost seventy five 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.080 percent of his passes, almost three out of four, four 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.040 hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns, and then two costly interceptions. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.120 Williams was even better. I mean two hundred and ninety yards, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.200 three touchdowns, no interception, quarterback rating of over one fourteen. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.280 That's what the Chicago Bears felt like they had drafted 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.440 as the first pick in the draft. That's what he 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.200 showed he could do at USC when he won a 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:07.440 Heisman Trophy. So their quarterback ended up winning the football 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.400 game with his performance and Unflacco, and unfortunately, Joe Flacco's 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.200 performance came up just a little bit short, and as 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.960 a result, it was a losing performance. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.840 Yeah. So many times it was referenced by players after 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.120 the game the word finish. Yeah, boy, I think many 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.480 if you allowed yourself. At forty nine seconds, the touchdown 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.920 hits it and I'm immediately thinking, holy cow, they have 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.720 found a way to somehow win this game. They're gonna 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.560 go onto the by with this momentum. You're gonna have 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.840 Pittsburgh coming out of the buy and everybody's gonna be 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.000 feeling good. And then four play seventy two yards and 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.359 thirty seven seconds and it was just a punch to the. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:49.680 Gut big time. Seventy two yards and thirty seven seconds. Man, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.920 I mean, that's that's hard to comprehend. That's hard to 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.240 do at any level of football. And the fact that 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.560 it happens to the Cincinnati Bengals defense, I mean, Al 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.800 Golden has to be tearing his hair out by the roots, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.920 there's no question about that. And everybody has to be 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.560 on the defensive side of the football. Offensively, let's face it, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.760 you know, you put up the yards they put up, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.040 you know, over over five hundred yards offense and over 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.800 round forty points high thirties. You expect to win that 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.399 football game. I mean there's no question that you think, yeah, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.600 this is going our way today. Not quite. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.720 Let's get reaction to what transpired. Immediate reaction after the game. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.680 Here is David with the coach Zach Taylor. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.360 Tear with Bengals head coach Zach Taylor and coach appreciate 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.840 you joining us like you always do. It's it's not 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.400 easy after your your team goes out and gives everything 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.560 they've got, poor is their heart and soul into a 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.800 football game like you guys do as well, you and 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.200 your coaches stop putting together the game plan and just 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.120 fall a little bit short, high scoring affair. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.160 Did you expect that. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.840 Expected to win. We're trying to find a way to win. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.640 Everything we put into this week, expected to walk off 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.280 this field today with a win, and it's just that's 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.400 the way it fell today for us, and it's unfortunate. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.680 We just in a lot of ways made the plays 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.360 we needed to make and then in other ways other phases, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.040 we just we have to find a way. Someone has 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.520 to step up, someone's got to get their hand on 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.359 the ball, someone's got to get a turnover. And it 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.320 just hasn't gone our way. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.880 Yeah, you mentioned some things that you know, I was 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.839 thinking about. Defensively, if you can get a key turnover 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.479 at a most opportune time, stop a drive or knock 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.479 the ball down, pass deflection, whatever the case may be, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.400 it just seems like the defense is just one step short. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.120 On many occasions it's been. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.600 Close, you know. And and again we've can't give up 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.880 the points. We've given up the zero turnovers. You know, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.160 that's a big deal. With Chicago's and their wins. They've 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.560 been plus four, plus three, plus three, they've always won 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.640 the turnover battle, and today they finished plus three. You know, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.839 they got three from us, none none the other way. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.120 So we got to find a way to get that fixed. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:03.440 Someone. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.760 Someone's got to get it done. Someone, the player's got 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.119 to step up somewhere and make a play. Were working 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.840 night and day trying to try to figure out an 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.880 answer to give these guys and help them, and we're 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:14.520 going to continue that. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.520 During the by week, they had sixteen takeaways coming in, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.480 so that makes it nineteen. After this football game, there 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.520 were plus eight coming in a turnover ratio that makes 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:24.480 them plus eleven. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.160 Those numbers are staggering. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.400 Yeah, one of them is a hellmer at the end 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:29.800 of the game. I don't put much stock into that, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:35.960 but you know, it's tough, it's it's that's that's a 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.600 challenging part of the game. We got to figure out 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:38.919 a way to get some turnovers off people. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.080 How about physically, do you feel like your football team 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.080 came out of the out of the game fairly healthy, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.280 nothing more than just the typical knicks, pumps and bruises. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.240 Well, see, I think somaj Pirran, I know, we got 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.440 a high ankle spring, you know, on a hip drop tackle, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.760 so that was unfortunate. But other than that, these guys 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.640 are I mean, emotionally, they left it all on the field. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.320 I mean, they gave everything. It's it's. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.360 I feel for him because they're they're fighting for a win, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.680 They're trying to give everything they can to win, and 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.039 and we just these last two weeks in particular, falling short. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.440 And I'm sick for these coaches, these players that that 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.000 put in this work and to have these heartbreaking results. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.240 We just we got to find a way to find 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:18.440 a win. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.560 Here. You're right, that was a hip drop tackle on 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.680 someow's your p Ryan playing and simple, I mean What 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.320 the hell is the guy looking at? Why can't he 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:26.840 throw his fight? 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.440 I don't think they are destructed to call it. I 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.720 think is probably where they're at and they just find 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.520 you afterwards. But that's just my opinion. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.680 How do you keep them focused? How do you keep them, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.000 you know, in in gear, in stride to take on 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.480 the Pittsburgh Steels after the buy. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.039 Yeah, that's that's that's leadership, you know. It's it is 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.200 easy when we've won ten games in a row and 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.240 been to a championship game and things are going good. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.239 That the hard part of leadership is when you're facing 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:51.000 some real diversity. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:51.360 And so. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.040 I'm going to embrace that, and I'm gonna find guys 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.160 in the locker room that embrace that as well and 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.200 don't want to hang their heads, don't want to point fingers. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.080 Negativity can creep in if you let it from from 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.960 people that tend to do that, and so we're not 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.000 gonna let that happen. We're just gonna keep fighting. I know, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.360 I got a locker room guys that well and fight. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.440 I just watched it on the field. It's it's I 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.520 just watched it. I watched those guys fight on every 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.120 single snap, and we're gonna continue. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.600 To get that. And finally, finally, you do have a 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.800 bunch of guys in the locker room that are leaders. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.960 You know that they aren't gonna quit, they aren't gonna 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.800 spit the bit. They're gonna give you every ounce after 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.240 they've got every single snap a very single football game. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:28.160 Uh. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.160 And you've been a big part of getting those guys 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.120 in the locker room. How do you feel about the 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.880 rest of the season. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.160 Yeah, we got a lot left to play for and 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.640 there's there's eight games left. We got to find a 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.840 way to just get that first win and build off that, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.440 and there's still opportunity right in front of us. I 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.200 expects us to take advantage of it. I expects us 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:47.600 to come back to work ready to find a way 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.760 to do that. And that's that's all we can do 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:50.200 right now. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.520 Appreciate your coach as always, Thank you. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.800 Appreciate Zach Taylor after the game, and now, Dave, with 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.600 eight games left. There's still eight game and he's saying 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.840 that out loud. There's a lot of games left. But 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.880 in addition to the x's and o's challenge, there's got 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.480 to be somewhat of a challenge for Zach to keep 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.720 everybody on the same page and headed in the right 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.119 direction and not scattering at this point. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.520 Yeah, it scattering is a good word for it. And 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.080 then you know, you get into the danger zone of 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.880 finger pointing, you know. I mean the offense here recently 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.760 with Joe Flacco at the helm and it's incredible what 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.520 a quarterback over forty years old is doing what he's 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.400 doing for his offensive football team. He has ignited them, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.439 I mean, he's been a spark, he's lifted them. And 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.280 the fact that they're playing well, I mean they're inconsistent. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.600 I think that's probably the biggest way to sum up 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.240 the entire football team. Inconsistency. Sometimes play very very well, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.880 you know for a quarter ye or for a half, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.920 or for a series or a multiple series, and then 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.920 just goes away. Falls apart. Same thing defensively, although much less, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.120 they haven't played as is consistently well. Uh, they've had 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.880 more poor performances on a series by series basis, on 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.839 a quarter by quarter basis than the than the the 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.440 offense has had. But man, I think inconsistency all the 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.720 way around offense, defense, and even Darren Simmons special teams 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.680 I mean they'll they'll make plays and then uh, they'll 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.000 spit the bit. You know, they'll they'll give up a 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.640 big play, they'll give up a return that is costly 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.160 and and uh flips field position and is a big 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.720 factor in the outcome of the football game. So they 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.320 got to get it turned around. They gotta get it 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.439 turned around quickly because they're just about at the halfway 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.320 point of the season right now, and you know they're 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.280 running out of time. Is the way, the best way 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:40.720 to say. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.640 And to your point, something good will start to happen, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.560 and then it's one play, one mistake, whether it's a 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.800 Dimitri's night junior illegal contact wipes out a sack, or 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.800 it's Yoshi who steps out of the back of the 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.559 end zone and the next plays the interception, Orlando Brown 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.760 first in goal, the personal foul, the the off sides 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.200 on the field. Just their their margin of air is 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.600 so small. Any mistake becomes magnified and it just becomes 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.040 really difficult to overcome. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.000 Yeah, no doubt, I mean, their margin fair is zero. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.000 You know, it's it's like they they they have to 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.480 play the perfect game, and then there's pressure that comes 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.920 along with that, and then the self inflicted pressure that 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.800 comes along with that. You don't want to be the guy. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.520 You don't want to be the guy that cost your 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.160 football team a game. You don't want to be the 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.040 guy that that that cost your football team. You know, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.720 a series that was going oh so well. You know, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.840 seven players in the series were great, and then the 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.600 eighth play you screwed up and and then the whole 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.960 thing falls apart. Yeah, it's a it can be a 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.200 it can be a cruel game when you're when you're struggling, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.559 like the Cincinnati Bengals are struggling. I mean, you can 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.880 go home and be looking at the ceiling not and 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.800 not not being able to sleep at night or close 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.800 your eyes and you're still looking at the ceiling, you know, 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.800 not being able to sleep at night. So I'm sure 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.720 there that's the thing. There are a lot of guys 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.120 in that locker room. And we'll go in the locker 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.280 room after the game and there are a guy a 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.960 care you know there. It's it's like a it's like 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.760 a awakened there. You know. It's man, You're like you're 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.480 walking into somebody that just passed and you're you're paying 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.720 the respects to that person. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:12.920 It really is. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.440 It's a It can make a lot of money doing this, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:17.920 and there's no doubt. I mean, it's a great way 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.440 to make a living, but it can it can it 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:21.560 can break your heart for sure. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.480 When we continue, we'll talk about the day turned in 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.839 by the forty year old Joe Flacco, an unbelievable day, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.360 and based on the circumstances of the week, even more unbelievable. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.079 Will do that as we continue on with Bengals Line 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.640 on the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW and ESPN 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:42.840 fifteen thirty. If they're back on Bengals Line of this 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.600 Monday night of the Bengals Radio Networks seven hundred wl 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.320 W into ESPN fifteen thirty. Again a reminder coming up 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.240 a bottom there. We'll break away on seven hundred for 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:54.600 UC basketball. Continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty. Joe Flacco 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.400 yesterday thirty one of forty seven, four hundred and seventy yards, 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:03.360 four touchdowns, quarterback one nine point four. Here's QB one 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.240 after the game where I'm. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.920 Normally not even thinking about it. You just flick it. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.959 And there was something about those throws that I actually 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.079 struggled with the most today. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.640 But there's on you line up for a game like 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:15.720 did you ever been a part of a game like 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:16.480 that one? 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:17.440 Yeah? 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:18.880 Oh yeah, when you've been. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.240 I mean, we beat Cleveland a couple of years ago 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.240 when I was with the Jets in a similar situation, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.840 Nick Chubb Bran ran in for a touchdown to go 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:26.679 up by two scores. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.640 They missed the extra point. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.920 We went down and scored with under two minutes left, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.280 got the on side kick, went down and scored again. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:34.960 Now when we scored, there was probably a little bit 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.760 less time on the closs. They still they still did 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.319 have a chance. They might have completed a ball to 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.120 midfield or something like that, but they didn't have quite 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:42.000 quite as much time. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.160 They probably didn't have any time malths. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.400 We ended up winning the game, so very very similar. Well, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.800 it's tough, you know, I mean, but you know, anytime 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:53.880 you're on the losing end. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.000 It's tough. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.960 I think when you've when you've played a lot of games, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.080 it's not the you lose doesn't make it any worse necessarily, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.000 you know. I think you learn that these these games 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.960 come down to the last minute, and you gotta be 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.520 ready for anything, and you know, a win to win 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:11.800 a loss is loss. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.120 Did you start feeling that hope in that game late. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:22.040 In obviously when I think when you go down and 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.600 then you think what you have is a touchdown and no, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.400 it's incomplete, and then you throw an interception, and obviously 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.360 at the time you thought they scored a touchdown, that 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.360 was probably that that at that point you probably weren't 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.319 thinking too much about it. But then when we went 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.120 down and scored for that. You know, when you when 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.120 you go down and you score and you make it 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.719 a one score game, I mean, anything can happen on 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.280 TI kicks. Not very likely, but who knows. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:44.600 You know. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.840 I think we were down by fourteen and we were 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.640 going out there and I said, hey, listen, crazier things 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.439 have happened, like to somebody a coach, and I was 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:52.160 standing right there. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.760 You know, I think it was a tight ends coach, and. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.800 But I think I think, you know, after maybe there's 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.439 a little bit of hope after you score that first one, 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.800 but you're probably at that point. I mean, I think 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.800 fans are going through the same thing like as as 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.040 players are at that point. So whatever whatever you were 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.839 feeling and the fans are feeling, we're probably feeling the 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:09.240 same thing. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.800 You know, you surprised when you saw the number. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.199 You know, I knew we had been climbing up there 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.200 at some point because we got so many possessions and 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.440 we were really throwing the ball you know, a lot. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.720 Of the time towards the end of the game, just 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.880 the nature of the game. You don't know how high 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:27.080 it is. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.680 I mean, I've never thrown for four hundred in the 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.520 NFL in my career, so it's the first time. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.280 The way that the last three games, how do you 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.960 keep the frustration. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.600 Yeah, from seeping among. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.400 The offensive players and the way the games are gone, So. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.520 What will we play nine games? 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:44.760 Now? 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.160 We have eight left. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.880 If you don't keep your head down and and and 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:54.960 and go to work, then it's going to be a long, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.080 miserable season for you. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.520 You can't get distracted, uh, and you can't. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.240 You're going to be emotional after a game, but at 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.120 some point you got to let that go. This is 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.240 our profession, you know, we do this for at a living, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.240 and we take pride in doing it. And I hope 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.040 that you would continue to take pride in doing what 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.160 you do for a living, no matter what the outcome is. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.280 And yeah, I mean maybe that's easier said than done, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.800 but that's what you got to do because you know 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:25.400 this leg. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.920 Will eat you up and it will not be it 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.120 will not be good. I'm sure. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.920 I'm sure Baltimore isn't sitting there, you know, tucking their 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.280 tail between their legs. With the record they have, They're 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.280 probably motivated and excited about the opportunity, opportunity that they 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.120 have going forward. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.120 I don't think we can look at it any different. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.560 And Dave, all things considered, forty years old, shoulder joint sprain, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:55.440 limited practice, just an absolutely heroic, gutty performance yesterday from Joe. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.440 I think that's a great way to put it. Gotty. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.440 I mean, it was courageous. He he laid it all 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.640 out there for his football team. There's no doubt about it. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.240 And I think in talking with some of the guys 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.760 in the locker room after the game, they realized that 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.640 they realized the sacrifice that Joe Flackell made. They realized 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.040 that he was playing in pain and that he wanted 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.480 to go out there and win this football game desperately 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.160 for the sake of his football team, for the sake 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.480 of his teammates, The coaching staff, the head coach Zach Taylor, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.040 the coordinators Dan Pitcher. I mean they put a lot 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.320 into this football game. This was, you know, a targeted game. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.440 This is almost they treated it almost like preparation wise, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.200 almost like for a playoff game. I mean they were 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.960 going to leave no stone unturned in terms of putting 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.080 into the game plan what they felt they needed to 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.360 do to beat the Chicago Bears, and they came up short. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.640 Let's hit our bottom of a r time out well transition. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.560 You see basketball coming up on seven hundred WLW. We 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.160 continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty. We'll get to the 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.680 defensive side of that. You'll hear from Dax Hill and 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.560 so much more as we roll on with Bengals Line 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.120 and the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW and ESPN 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:14.400 fifteen thirty. We continue on breaking down all things Bengals 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.560 on this Monday night of Bengals Line and the Bengals 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.640 Radio Network in ESPN fifteen thirty. Lands but Kallister hanging 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.639 out with Dave Lap them. We've got a lot to 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.880 sort through between now and nine o'clock tonight. We've got 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.040 a big pile of stuff to sort through on the 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.560 defensive side, of things, Dave lap a man. The numbers 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.359 they make your eyes go cross eye. Thirty first downs, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.600 allowed five hundred and seventy six total yards, two ninety 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.600 three through the air, two eighty three in the ground, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.920 seven and a half yards to carry. David, it's the 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.400 eighth straight game allowing at least twenty seven points, their 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.760 fifth game allowing thirty or more points. It was just 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.520 it was a dam that has broken and there's just 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.600 no ability to stop it right now for this defense. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.200 Yeah, I mean, like you say, the dam is cracked 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.119 and broken and they can't fix it. You know, they 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.560 can't find a way to repair it. How many straight 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:04.840 games allowing twenty eight points? 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.960 Seven would be eight straight games at least twenty seven points. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.159 Jeez, eight straight games allowing least twenty seven points. That's uh, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.720 that's mind boggling. That that is Uh, that's almost impossible 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.720 to do. You have to try hard to be that bad. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:22.879 It really is. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:23.240 Uh. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.560 And considered theave. They went through the much talked about 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.960 defensive players only meeting last week and they did some 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.840 some different type of technique drills prior to practice tackling wise, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.199 and yet there there doesn't seem to be a magic 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.280 bullet that that is capable of fixing the tackling woves 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.120 of this team. I think Next Gen had them unofficially 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.080 for fifteen tackles missed, allowing extra one hundred and thirty 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:53.040 three yards after the initial contact. That's a mind boggling now, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.120 but that's a football field and a third after miss tackles. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.080 That's crazy, you know. And you give up over five 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.919 hundred yards as a defensive football team, and over one 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.280 hundred and thirty of those because you gave them those 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.240 yards by missing missing tackles. And that's not to say 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.159 you know, miss tackles that led to scores. You know 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.480 they were guilty of that infraction as well. Man, I 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:17.520 don't know, what do you What do you do? If 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.800 you're al Golden, you say, hey, let's scrimmage guys. You know, 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.600 we gotta we gotta get after this. We have to 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.200 get in a mindset where physicality is the name of 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.520 the game. We have to go and and when we 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.639 set foot on that football field, we have to believe 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.840 that we're the most physical unit out there. One on one, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.840 every guy you match up against, you have to beat 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.480 your guy. You have to defeat him at the line 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.399 of scrimmage. You have to defeat your guy in space, 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.159 you have to make open field tackles. I don't know, 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.320 I don't know what you do. Do you beat up 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.600 the football team? You don't have that many guys. I mean, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.919 do you take a chance and risk and injury to 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.119 somebody by scrimmaging people? I mean, you know, back in 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.120 the back in the day, there was the punishment theory. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.120 You know, you didn't do well, you're gonna get punished, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.960 and and you're gonna gonna hope you that that next 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.120 game comes sooner than it really is. You don't want 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.080 to go through this, day after day after day, what 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.880 the coaches are making you go through. But hopefully Al 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.840 Golden has a solution because right now it just does 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:14.720 not look good. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:19.120 Yeah, the the Bears through everything and the kitchen sink 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.560 at I mean yesterday, four different gadgets, gadget trick plays. 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.640 Although it's funny, and talking with some people who cover 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.840 the Bears, they say, Ben Johnson, it's just it's the 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.359 way he is. He doesn't consider him trick plays. He 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.560 considers it a variety of variation of his offense. And man, 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.040 it had to be, it had to have the head spinning, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.720 especially if you're a young linebacker on this Bengals team 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.120 right now, a rookie linebacker. Stuff like that was going 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.680 on yesterday. I just had to have your spinning around 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:44.400 like the Exorcist. 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.320 Yeah really, I mean you're you're spinning like a top 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:52.159 you know. You know. Ben Johnson is creative and the 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.720 best way to attack a defense. Paul Brown always felt 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.960 this way is to run multiple plays out of the 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.159 same look. You know, maybe change the formation just a 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.840 little bit at the last minute when the defense feels 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.720 like they're they're set in terms of what you're lining 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.080 up formationally, and they have a good idea what play 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.160 you're gonna run, and then at the very last minute 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.439 you change it and kind of, you know, homeboy, what 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.560 do I do now? Put him in a little bit 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.600 of a panic. Ben Johnson is that kind of guy. 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.399 He's very, very creative with the way he looks at 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.040 the game of football, and you know, he's just he's 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.800 not gonna just line up and say it's me and 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.480 you and we're gonna go on a back alley and 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.320 we're gonna have a brawl. We're gonna have a footbawl. Uh, 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.320 it's that's not the way he looks at the game 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.240 of football. He looks at it as I've got a 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.400 very very high football IQ. I know that everybody else 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:43.520 knows that, and I'm gonna show it. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:50.199 The defense in the crosshairs right now, certainly. And and 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.720 let's add in some perspective on what is transpiring on 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.000 that side of the ball. Here's Dax Hill with Dan 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:56.120 Horde after the game. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.199 Dax, I'm not sure what to say. I feel like 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.399 I've seen it all at this point. You probably feel 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.400 the same way. What's going through your mind right now? 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:04.160 Uh? 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:05.880 No words, I mean, I don't really have a whole 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.119 lot to say about that. It's just unfortunate to be 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:09.960 on that the wrong side of the ball. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.720 But yeah, what would you identify as the biggest problems 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.760 that are happening on the defensive side right now? 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.560 Just not getting stops when we're supposed to be getting stops, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.960 just being on the field too long, and when you're 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.080 on the field for that long, something's bound to happen. 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.040 So just got to get off the field early. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.000 When the Bengals scored to take the lead with fifty 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.920 four seconds to go, those are the kinds of situations 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.160 that you probably love to have the opportunity to get 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.920 the final stop to clinch the win. What was what 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.840 were you thinking as you guys took the field defensively 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:45.800 under those circumstances. 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.200 Just keeping keep the ball and bounds. I think they 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:53.240 only had one time out and we just didn't do that. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.679 So what was your view of the final touchdown and 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:56.359 what went wrong? 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:58.480 I didn't really see it. 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.720 I was on a blitch but just turned around saw 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:02.320 the guy score. 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.080 So it seemed like there was decent pressure at times 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.640 on Caleb Williams. You forced him to scramble around quite 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:13.080 a bit, unfortunately, just could not either sack him or 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.520 prevent him from scrambling. Did you view that as a 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.239 you know, a big key to why the Bears were 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:19.160 able to score what they did? 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:19.520 Oh? 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.399 Yeah, I mean, you know, if you can't get Caleb 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.879 Williams down, then I mean it's it's gonna be a 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.000 lone day. You know, he's you know, dynamic out of 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.280 the pocket, and we didn't really contain him as much 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.720 as we wanted to, so, uh, you know, the result 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:34.560 as the result. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.840 I know it's hard for the guys on defense to 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.280 see the offense put up the point totals they've been 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.720 putting up and not come away with a win. What 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.359 is that feeling like for everybody on this side of 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.280 the locker room? 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.640 This unfortunate. There's just no words. I mean, we put 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.080 in the work, you know, throughout the entire weekend. We 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.960 just don't get the result on Sunday. It's just you 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.399 put in all that work and this is just what 0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:57.760 it is. 0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.160 So yeah, it's just hard. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:01.679 Feel like a buy is needed. 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.800 Yeah, I guess appreciate your time. 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.280 Thanks Jaxon Dax Hill after the game yesterday, and boy 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.679 Dave one final thought on the defense in this segment. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.800 I look at their running numbers thirty seven carries, two 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.480 hundred and eighty three yards, seven point six of Carrey. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.280 Those in looking at them on paper, those look like 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.159 college numbers. That that's something like a running offense in 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.920 college football would pile up in a game to carry it. 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.639 And I remember when DeAndre Swift was ruled out on Friday, 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.640 and I'm thinking, well, maybe the Bengals get a little 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.959 bit of break here. DeAndre Swift's not going to play 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:39.280 and a seventh round pick named Manongaui rushes for big 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.040 time yarders to bring up a practiced guy, squad guy. 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.439 It was like who wants the football? There was There 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.640 were yards to be had yesterday on the ground. 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.960 No question. I mean, manung guy one hundred and seventy 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.200 six yards averaged six point eight to carry, unbelievable, had 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:55.639 a thirty nine yard saunter. 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:56.320 Uh. 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.840 The other thing is Caleb Williams created an extent plays. Yes, 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.040 he added fifty three yards rushing. That's a big number 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.960 at the quarterback position. When you're not calling design run plays, 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.240 you're not talking about quarterback counter, quarterback sweep, you know, 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.720 quarterback trap, You're not talking about those kind of things. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.520 You're talking about a guy back to pass. You know, 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.639 five seconds, he's looking down the football field for five 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.679 five and a half seconds, doesn't like what he sees. 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.840 They're doing a pretty good job in coverage, but he 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.119 sees a lane that's opened up in the pass rush 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.600 and he just abuses that thing. Big guy, strong guy, 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:35.000 can run, very athletic. Caleb Williams was a factory yesterday. 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.320 Not only with that howards are hanging off his right shoulder, 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.120 but running the football. 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.600 No doubt, and you alluded to it It's what they 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.880 hoped they were getting at him, because there had been 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.520 he had been inconsistent. At times, he'd make a throw 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.760 that made your head hurt, or he made a decision 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:53.280 that really those were eliminated. Yesterday he showed on before 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:56.280 everybody's eyes, exactly what you were hoping for in developing 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:57.600 a franchise quarterback, no. 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:02.840 Question, I mean he he basically said to the Chicago Bears. 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.399 I know you've taken some heat for taking me with 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.439 the first pick in the draft. Yes, and thanks for 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.280 staying with me, Thanks for hanging in there, thanks for 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.920 letting me develop, Thanks for giving me time to develop 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.879 and understand what it takes to play at at the 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.639 level you need to play at in the National Football League. 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:23.119 And I'm gonna pay it back. I'm gonna win a 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.280 lot of football games for you, and hopefully we'll go 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.000 to the Super Bowl. 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.359 Let's go to the offensive line side of things as 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.919 we continue here from Ted Carris and more. As we 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.600 navigate our way through this Monday night, It's Bengals Line 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.920 on the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:43.520 Sports station. We were rolling right along on this Monday 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.560 night on the show We Call Bengals Line by Dude 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.040 on the Bengals Radio Network and on ESPN fifteen thirty 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.119 Cincinnati Sports station oh Lancet. 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080 The Bengals are definitely licking their wounds after fall into 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.919 the Chicago Bears, and time for the injury report presented 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.879 by Kettering Healthy, official healthcare provider of this Cincinnati Bengals, 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.639 providing the best care for the best fans. And I 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:07.240 really don't know of any serious, you know, injuries. It's 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.280 gonna cost the team multiple games with a player there 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.199 may be a spray, a twist, a bruise or whatever. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.040 Guys were in the in the tent, uh getting getting 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.520 checked out, X Ray's being taken, that sort of thing. 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.680 Joe Flacco kind of tweaked that bad shoulder that he's got, 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.200 but he ended up coming back into the football game. 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.520 So all in all, I think the players pretty much 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.320 sucked it up and worked that way through any ailments 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.160 that may have been there. 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.480 It'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.680 the samajp Ryan, who that dude's a warrior. He took 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.600 that hit and he was down and it looked really bad, 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.719 and then he jumped up and like like I'm I'm fine, 0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.200 I'm going to the sidelines. I've got a job to do. 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.720 Don't worry about me. And that's that's just who he is, 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:55.240 no doubt. 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.679 I mean, and he was. They showed him on the 0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.600 sideline and he was gritting his teeth and he was 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.480 grinding his teeth. You know that that that's a good 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.600 indicator that you're dealing with some pain. But yeah, I mean, 0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.600 there he was back in the football game, running hard. 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.119 That guy. I got a lot of respect for his game. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.119 He's a He's a big, powerful, sturdy back. There's no 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.520 question about it. He goes downhill as well as anybody man. 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.359 He takes online backers and and down lineman. Uh. It 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.240 just he gives his body up. He sacrifices it for 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.480 the for the good of the football team. Great short 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.560 yardage goal line guy. Uh. The Bengals really like him, 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:32.080 and they should. 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.960 He's a guy Dave that he may not be the 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.119 the All Pro, he may not get the headlines, he 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.880 may not put up amazing numbers, but he's a guy 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.280 every team can use because he can do a lot 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.360 of things. He does them because he knows it helps 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.920 his team win. And he doesn't say boo about doing it. 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.800 That may be running, catching, blocking, tag, whatever it is, 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:51.800 he's willing to do it. 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.160 Yep. And uh, you know yesterday he wasn't a huge factor, 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.800 only one carry for five yards in that in that 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.720 running game. But again, like you said, he's willing to 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.000 do whatever task needs to be done for his football 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.680 team to win the football game. And that means, you know, 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:13.800 getting the nasty, tough short yardage, goal line yards, picking 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.920 up first downs and picking up touchdowns, catching the football 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.520 out of the backfield, running, running real good routes, soft hands, 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.880 catch the ball, put it away. He doesn't turn it over. 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:30.360 He is basically allergic to turnovers. He hates them, doesn't 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.800 want any part of them. And then the best, the 0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.800 last thing that he does about as good as anybody 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.040 in the NFL, in my opinion, at the running back position. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.320 He will stick his nose right in the chest of 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.600 a linebacker and do a hell of a job and 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.040 blitz pick up for Joe Flacco or Joe Burrow. 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.120 Another guy who's a pros pro on this team is 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.280 Ted Carris. Let's go inside the locker room after the game. 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.920 Our friend James Rapine from Bengals Talk passed along a 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.040 part of a conversation of Ted Terrris expressing what's going 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.800 on with his team right now. Here's the veteran offensive lineman. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.400 Very grateful to be healthy and uh to play in 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.880 the NFL and excited to see my family tonight. Obviously, 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:10.800 two artbreakers in a row. Pretty crazy. So yeah, I've 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.400 never recovered onside kick in the NFL. And and then 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.600 went down and won. So that was I told everyone, 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.360 sit down, it's not over. Obviously it wasn't, So maybe 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.360 I won't say that next time. 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:21.120 You've never done that. 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.160 You said you covered it onside and I've never done that. No, 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.600 it was pretty unique and pretty cool. 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:25.280 Cool. 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.960 That was a really good kick by uh because it 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.120 didn't go ten, but it hit the guy. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.640 What did you learn about Joe Flacco this week? 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:35.560 He's a grinder. 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.480 I mean, he's a freaking Hall of Famer guy goes 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:39.920 out there. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.760 I mean you should see his freaking ac Man, It's 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.320 like crazy, goes out there, throws what five four seventy five? 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.680 Come on, man, he can't ask for more than that 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.000 out of your cue. So what a what a great 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.800 addition to the team. 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:55.720 You've seen a lot of ball. 0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:57.560 Have you ever seen anything. 0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:57.760 Like that game? 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.440 No, I'm not I have not seen anything like that game. 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:02.840 That was a crazy ending. 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.200 You know, hard to denote something as a classic when 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.280 you lose, but that was. 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.680 At an all time game eight days ago. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.440 If I would have said, hey, you can to score 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.960 eighty points as a team, because he had seven today 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.040 with Charlie, but eighty nboo and two, what do you 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:20.160 think your reaction would have been. 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.240 I don't think I would have had a reaction, James. 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:28.040 I think I would have called you a liar. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.560 How do you fight frustration and avoiding the stuff, the 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.360 finger pointing type stuff that you need to try to 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:35.160 avoid in the locker room. 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:36.800 Where do you start with that as a captain? 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.120 Well, we'll let We'll let the city do enough finger pointing. 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.320 I'm sure there's enough to go around. But hey, I 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:45.560 mean we just got to get ready to go get 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.840 a week off, and then we got Pittsburgh. So I mean, Jase, 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.720 here we go and there's the NFL. So grateful to 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:55.000 be here. I wish would have won. But Cammy, is. 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.160 There an accumulating frustration in the fact that a lot 0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.960 of the ways that y'all have lost with this year 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.120 at times have looked like it did last year. Is 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.760 there any accumulating frustration in that way? Even when Burrow 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.080 was healthy, games kind of looked like this at certain 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:09.720 points I had I. 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.880 Have no accumulating frustration. I'm sure some people do, but 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:13.280 I'm not. 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:14.640 I have a job to do. 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.440 So, you know, we had a good front in front 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:16.640 of us. 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.160 Say we had Grady Jarrett Dexter sweat, I mean we 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:21.840 have we have to think about other things. We got 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.560 guys coming and trying to run down your face. So 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:25.880 I thought we did a good job as an O 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:33.040 line protecting them. They got one cheap one on a squeeze. 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:31.800 But. 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.920 Overall I thought we can put up what forty two 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.960 or thirty five as an O one with Charlie. 0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:39.560 That was great. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:46.280 So you know, oh well we'll get a week off. 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.560 I'm enjoying the time with my daughter and uh get 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.000 a jump start on the Pittsburgh Steelers who are rolling 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:52.520 right now. 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.000 Take Carris after the game. And if you're looking for 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:59.280 guys who can to use the cliche steady at ship 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.080 in shaky waters, Ted Carris has been there, done that. 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.680 It is one of those calming voices of reason and 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:06.800 leadership on this team. 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.640 You're right on the money there, Lance. I mean, he's 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.520 a grizzled veteran YEP that has the respect and trust 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.240 of his teammates, you know, particularly guys up front, particularly 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.160 the offensive line. It's almost like he's another coach on 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.520 the field, you know, the way he handles things. He's 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.240 you know, he's approaching double digit years. He's one of 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.080 the most experienced, if not the most experienced veteran player 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.480 on the football team, and everybody looks to him for 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.400 leadership and he's more than willing to provide it. It 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.880 doesn't matter what position or how many years you're in 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.160 the league. If you're a you know, a rookie to 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.120 a fourth year player just now starting to get vested 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.480 for your retirement, and you want to know what you 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.920 need to do and how you need to do it 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.600 to hang around the National Football League and play as 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.640 long as you possibly can. Just have a conversation, sit 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.680 down with Ted Carriss. He'll tell you how to take 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.959 care of your body, how to work out and make 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.920 your body bigger and strong longer, how to compete at 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.200 the highest level in the National Football League, the guys 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.440 that you're going to be going up against. Ted Carriss 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.080 is a gem. He is man and the Bengals that's 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.279 one of the best deals that they've ever made in 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.160 franchise history in my opinion, when they got Ted Carriss, 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.280 they got the New England Patriots to part with Ted. 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.839 Carriss, boy, and think about it, if and so many 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.000 times you hear of a player who said, this guy, 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.279 when I was young and coming into the league, took 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.759 me under his arm and I learned from him. You've 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.640 got two rookie guards and Dylan Fairchroud and Jalen Rivers 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.839 wide eyed learning things for the first time. And to 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.040 have a guiding force like Ted Carriss that builds a 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.760 foundation that helps them become pros into the future. 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.000 Good point, Lance, I mean, you know your football and 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.560 you've seen a lot of football. Bob Johnson was that 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.160 guy from me. You know, the original Bengal first picking 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.200 the draft is nineteen sixty eight, his rookie year. Paul 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.959 Brown said, this is a foundational football player. We're gonna 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.359 we're gonna start at the center position and bill out 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.799 uh in in offense and uh We're gonna we're gonna 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.040 do the same thing on the defensive side of of 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:13.040 the football. So I can't say tell you how influential 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.600 he was in my understanding what it took to to 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.680 make a team. First of all, there's no guarantee you're 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.920 gonna make it. You get drafted, but you gotta make it. 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.960 And uh, and what it takes to compete on a 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.800 on a day to day basis in the national football 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.919 you get yourself better. And I was very fortunate had 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.160 Bob Johnson had John Shinner as a veteran played at Xaviers. 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.520 Zavier didn't even have football anymore. That's how long ago 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:37.640 we're talking about John Shinner's. 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:38.080 Uh. 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.960 Another pros pro, Howard fest was a messenger guard with 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:47.319 John Shinners running Holland Big Sookie out of Tennessee State. 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.279 He was Uh, he was a great player and and 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.759 just a character, just a great human being, a funny guy. 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.120 And Rufus may Is out of Ohio State, big roof. 0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:00.080 Uh that that guy. Now, you didn't want to get 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.120 Rufus upset if you pissed Huer defensive line and you 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.839 pissed Rufus mas off. Oh, it was hell to. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:11.200 Be paid man, Love it we put just about at 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.040 our first hour and the books come back our final 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.240 segment of the air, then we'll make the transition into 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.520 our number two, two of three tonight total. It's Bengals 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.520 Line and the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:29.040 Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, welcome back in in hit down 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.840 the stretch with us in our first hour of Bengals 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.200 Line of the Bengals Radio Network. Lance but Camels Drew 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.840 along with Dave Leppom. Yes, sir, Lance and shop the 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.560 Bengals Pro Shop. 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It is 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.920 on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.080 This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.480 Pay Corps proud to be the official HR software provider 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.080 of US Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering hew best Care for the 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:22.000 best Fans, kettering hewth official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.200 This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.640 Bengals coverage. 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.440 Hey, we continue on on our Monday Night journey. We 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.520 do it each and every week, although next week, because 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.120 of the bye, we are off, so we'll be back 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.600 at you the following week. But we sort through what 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.600 transpires and then look ahead. We've got a whole lot 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.239 to still sort through. From yesterday forty seven to forty two, 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.400 the final score Chicago Bears went at pay Corps Stadium. 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:49.360 Let's add in some more offensive prospective. Chase Brown yesterday 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.160 carried eleven times for thirty seven yards, had a long 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.400 of twelve. He was targeted fourteen times. He was targeted 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.520 five more times than anybody else on the team. Had 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.239 eight catches for seventy five yards a law long of 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.840 twenty one. Here's Chase Brown after the game. 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.160 When you guys have back to back games where you 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:09.040 know you scored thirty eight points over forty points today 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.279 as an offense, does it almost feel like you guys 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.719 are in disbelief to the point like what more can 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.640 we do? Or how are you compartmentalizing these two losses? 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.480 Well, I think for us is. 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.520 Uh, you know, we made some good plays, but we 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:29.239 also weren't perfect. So that's what you're chasing this game 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.520 is perfection. At the end of the day, there's a 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:32.960 lot of things that we could have been better in 0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.000 and you know, when we go and watch a film, 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.279 we'll we'll learn from them and move on and you know. 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.799 Let's just control what we can control at the end 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:41.080 of the day. 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.000 Losing like that is. 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.520 Yeah, it's unbelievable, Like it's unbelievable. Last play the game 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:52.480 like it sucks, But that's NFL. You got to play 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.640 to the last second. You can't let up, even even 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.080 when you feel like the momentum shifted. So that would 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.799 that would be how I'm feeling right now is just 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:03.000 play all the way through and. 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.360 Always wrong through your head walking back to the locker. 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:12.400 Room chase, probably the same as what was running through 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:20.680 your head, like like what the what. 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:22.200 The when did that emotion change to just hanger? 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.200 Knowing how differently this season could have looked if you 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.960 closed out the last two weeks. 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.360 So it just it, just it. 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.160 I'd be lying if I said it didn't set us 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:38.560 back from where we want to be. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:41.040 You know, we want to be. 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.479 Our mentality was three and o going into the into 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.680 this bye week, and we we could have easily done it. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.839 That's the sickening part. It's like we could have easily 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:52.360 done it. 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:53.240 One of the hensions. 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.480 It looks like it's building between the offense and defense, 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:56.520 at least from the outside. 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.160 What do you do as a leader on the team 0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.320 of someone to kind of prevent that from how happening. 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.000 Just don't turn on each other, like we we know 0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:02.680 how they can play. 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.320 They played really well at the start of the season 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.960 like they did and they like they were carrying us 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.400 on their back. So you know, now that we're stepping up, 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.719 I think like I think, like, you know, we just 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.839 got to play complimentary football, like we put the ball 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.160 in the end zone and go up a point at 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.120 the end, finish the game, like just end it, like 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.359 that's it, Like that's that's like that's what we need 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.600 to do. Just end the game, like make them, make 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:28.879 them get us the ball back. 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:29.759 Let us go to. 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.879 Twenty two victory and let's end the game. That's how 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.040 that's like, that's how I feel. You know what we like, 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:36.920 you know, we can't we we didn't. 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.960 We're taking steps forward so offensively, so that's good. 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.280 Like, you know, we're trying to control what we can control, 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:45.920 and we're going to keep doing what we can do. 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:47.000 And you know. 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.880 Flaco fought like a warrior today with you know, the 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.759 way his shoulder was, like, you know, things aren't going 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.799 to be perfect, but you know, we made things work 0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.920 on our end, and you know, we made mistakes, we 0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:58.719 learned from them, but we just kept on fighting and 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.920 with the end of the day, like you got to 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.719 go to the very end, Chase. 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.640 How frustrating is it that y'all got Flacco in here 0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.160 to boost the offense, goes out does what he did 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.920 last week and this week and it still hasn't been enough. 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.759 How frustrating is it that it kind of has worked 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.279 out the way they hoped and just the results haven't 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:14.680 been there. 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.799 Yeah, you know, I think it's been enough. 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.000 It's just we got to finish, Like we just got 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.359 to finish at the end of the day, Like we're 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.640 putting points on the board now, so like, let's let's 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.000 let's finish off these games and get these wins, and 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.040 you know we'll be we'll be good. 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:32.799 Do you feel like last year at all? 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.520 In what way? I guess the score a lot not 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:41.359 always been enough. 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.360 I guess you could say there's similarities. But you know 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.279 we're not gonna turn on each other. We'll be just fun, 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:48.120 will be good. 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.040 Like you feel like you have to be perfect, almost 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.000 offensively chase for. 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.680 You guys to win. 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.279 At this point, that's our vul we we we chase 0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:58.319 perfection every week. 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.759 So you chase perfection every week. 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:10.680 So you know, yeah, we weren't perfect today, so you 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.840 know we'll try to be perfect next next opportunity. 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.680 If you look at the effort that you had on 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.560 the final drive, that te had on the final drive, 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.680 I mean, guys are putting it on the line for 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.040 you to win games, and you leave here without a win. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.520 What's that emotionally like for you? Considering what you're doing 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:27.879 to win. 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.279 I'm gonna go do it next time we get the opportunity. 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:34.560 So that's just my mentality next time we're in that 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.600 same if we're in that same situation, I'm gonna do 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.759 the same thing, do whatever I can to make a 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.680 play and put the team in position to win. And 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.920 that's all I care about the end of the day. 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.560 I don't care if I flip or I know any 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.960 playmaker on this team, any any position, Like, we're all 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.919 willing to do whatever it takes a win. 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:55.880 We just gotta finish. 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.200 I think that's like what you go into this bye week, 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.839 think you and kind of repeating to yourself is. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:06.880 Just finish, finish, Finish these goddamn games. Finish them. 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.400 Given the fact that you went up against this defense 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.440 and training camp and how they started the season, is 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.640 it surprising that they haven't finished the past couple of 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.600 weeks and and got these ones for you? M Oh okay, 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.840 yeahs it surprising that they didn't do theirs. I'm like, 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.919 I don't know, old No, your own defense, you face 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:23.520 them every day. 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.520 Yeah, we know what they can do, So that's it. 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:29.480 Just play up to your standard and when it's your 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:33.200 opportunity to strap somebody up or make the tackle or 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:34.400 whatever it is. 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:35.080 Do it. 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.879 Think you're leadership on that side of the ball right now. 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.279 I think so we got leaders, we got vets, we 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:44.959 got guys with you know, captain Badgers on their chests 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:45.560 like we're good. 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.319 There no stepping up up in a big way. 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:55.840 I think, Uh, you know, they just need they just 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.080 need to figure it out. 0:43:57.120 --> 0:44:01.800 They'll be good. Like they'll be good, they'll do. 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.080 So does it feel like the season is slipping away 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:04.359 on you guys a little bit right now? 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:08.000 We're just gonna keep you know, keep a foot all 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:12.200 the way down in the throttle and we'll be good. Well, 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:13.839 we're not gonna we just can't lose a locker run. 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.000 That's if we can't lose. Like, I'm not gonna point fingers. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.360 I could have been better today. That's how I'm feeling 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.319 leaving the field. Like, you know, I'll focus on me 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.880 and let everybody else focus on what they need to 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:25.920 get better at. And then when we come together and 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.800 against the next opponent, you know, we're all gonna be better. 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.400 So yeah, that's what we're gonna do. 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.760 Chase Brown after the game yesterday, and he, like most 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.959 there was that expression of back to what Zach said, 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.320 I can't believe this happened today, And who would believe 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.640 had had we said two weeks ago, Dave, the Bengals 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.200 will score thirty eight points and followed up with forty 0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.439 two points and lose both of those games. Nobody would 0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.600 have thought that possible. But we are looking at that 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.359 very fact right now. We certainly are, and it's it's 0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.240 mind boggling. The Bengals ran the ball. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:03.640 Just fifteen times yesterday, they threw it forty seven. When 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.360 you're that imbalanced, usually it's a blowout. But it was 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.000 a five point game, forty seven forty two. They scored 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.600 forty two points being that imbalanced. I mean, if they 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.600 can somehow balance up their offense where they run the 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.319 ball for one hundred and fifty yards and throw the 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.920 ball for two fifty or something like that, and you know, 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.560 and get after people with an offense that's generating three 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.840 hundred and fifty three hundred and seventy five four hundred 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.279 yards offense and is is cranking, you know, twenty eight 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.279 to thirty five points. Yeah, that should that should win 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.120 you're a lot of football games. Now. Obviously it would 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.200 have come up far short yesterday, There's no doubt about that. 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.560 But you know, you take away the twelve yard carry, 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.759 ten carries for twenty five yards, two point five a 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.920 rush for Chase Brown, on ten carries, and that's not 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.800 that's not Chase Brown. You know, maybe every once in 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:58.319 a while he might have decided I'm gonna I misread that. 0:45:58.719 --> 0:45:58.920 You know. 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.480 It came back to the my bad guys, it was blocked. Well, 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.320 I misread it more times than not. Though to my eye, 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.279 it was just the offensive line getting beat. In the 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.480 offensive line, instead of getting some push up front, they 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.680 were getting pushed. They were getting pushed back off the 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.120 line of scrimmage, and that's tough on any running back. 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.319 You see the numbers of your offensive lineman standing straight up, 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.640 you know that it's not going very well for those 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.360 guys up front. 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.520 David, I'll tell you what I love from the very 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.680 first offensive snap of the game for this team. And 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:29.080 much has been made about how many targets Jamar Chase 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.160 had had twenty three two weeks ago, I think sixteen 0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.479 last week. Tea was only targeted two times last week, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:39.040 only one catch. That was a subject of conversation throughout 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.319 the week and whether they planned it or it just 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.040 happened this way. The very first snap of the game, 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.080 Joe Flacco finds t Higgins and it was an omen 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:50.800 of things to come. Nine targets, seven catches, one hundred 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.719 and twenty one yards, two touchdowns. T had a big ge. 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.960 T had a T Higgins day yesterday. 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.239 He did. The fans were in full throw too. 0:46:58.320 --> 0:46:58.480 Man. 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.240 That forty four yard touchdown catch was a thing of beauty. 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.600 He really was. Oh he did. He's got such strong 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.759 hands and and T is so good at the contested catch. 0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.759 He's got length, he's got strength, strong hands, he can 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.360 he can snatch the football and put it away. And 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.759 a really good route runner. You know, T Higgins would 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.320 be the number one receiver on thirty one other teams, 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.520 but he's with Jamar Chase, and Jamar Chase triple crown 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.960 winner last year. You know, catches yards and touchdowns, so 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:30.359 got to get him involved. But with that said, you know, 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:35.160 he T Higgins in Jamar Chase. Nine targets for T, 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.600 eight for Jamar, seven catches for T. Six for Jamar, 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:41.720 one hundred and twenty one yards for T. One hundred 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.360 and eleven for Jamar, you know, and T had the 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.000 two touchdowns. That that is gonna make it very very 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.600 difficult for defenses because cheez, who do we double? You know, 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.880 we double both of them and then Gasicki or somebody 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.920 like that needs to step up. And that's the thing. Offensively, 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.080 they've got all the weapons. They got a plethora of weapons. 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.359 Whatever the defense does, the Bengals have a counter move 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.160 to it, you know, I mean, if it's a chess match, 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:08.520 they're not going to get checkmated. 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.400 How about this and I five me another team that 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.640 can say this is that from an offensive skill set. 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:18.000 Catches yesterday long catches. Chase Brown had a long of 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.840 twenty one. He had a long of forty four, Chase 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:25.239 thirty six, Yoshi twenty eight, Hudson had a thirty three 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.320 yard catch. Fans had a twenty three yard catch. Tinsley 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.200 had a twenty seven yard catch Dave. Seven different guys 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:34.160 yesterday had catches for at least twenty three yards. 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:38.880 That's crazy, it is, It's absolutely crazy. And only seven 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.440 guys had a catch, so every single one of the 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.080 receivers had a reception of twenty yards more twenty three, 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:51.560 twenty seven, twenty eight, thirty three, thirty six, twenty one 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.400 for Chase Brown out of the backfield. Higgins the forty 0:48:55.400 --> 0:49:00.319 four yard touchdown. Like we said, two touchdown passes were 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.680 long long range, long distance t. Higgins and no offense. 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.280 And that's what we're talking about if they do start 0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:10.480 paying a hell of a lot of attention outside Gasiki 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.359 was nicked up, you know, he wasn't available. But if 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.719 you have a Gasiki and Fan keeps developing, now you 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.279 have two tight ends that can hurt you the way 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.080 those guys showed that they can hurt you, and then 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.799 throw Hudson in there to boot. I mean it. There's 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.880 no shortage of weapons now, Yep. The quarterbacks aren't complaining 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.040 about that. There's no shortage of guys for them to 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:35.040 sling the football to. 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.200 Had a final point that the two tight ends Hudson 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.680 and Fan combined had five targets. They caught four of 0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.120 them for seventy yards and a touchdown. Nice out of work. 0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.040 That's a heck of a day from your tight end 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.399 all day, every day. No hang type more to get 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.440 to here from Jamar Chase on the offensive side of things. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.640 So we roll on with Bengals Line on the Bengals 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.279 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:00.919 You were old right. 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.920 Along in this Monday night, navigating our way through three 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.320 hours of Bengal's conversation looking back at yesterday forty seven 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.440 forty two at pay Corps. The bye week coming up, 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.719 but we've got ground to cover between now and nine 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.680 o'clock tonight, so let's continue on. Jamar Chase yesterday targeted 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.759 eight times, six catches, one hundred and eleven yards, an 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.400 average of eighteen and a half per catch along of 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.759 thirty six. Here's Jamar meeting with the media after the game. 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.400 Often's got a final way to put the bott in 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.520 the game away? Somehow, some way you gotta do it. 0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:31.840 How do you keep. 0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:33.680 Putting it on the offense his shoulders? 0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:35.600 Considering what you've all. 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.080 Watched the last month or so, you say, why, Yeah, 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:40.960 that's only the way we're gonna fix it. I don't 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.000 know how why that's what I'm looking to keep pointing 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:43.440 at offense. 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:44.440 I can't point out the defense. 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:47.239 You haven't been. 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:51.239 Around a comeback like that before. No, fifteen points in 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:57.359 like about a minute and a half. No, who's going 0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:59.919 three of mine is in the last call? 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:01.480 What was working? 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:02.480 What was the uh? 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.640 Guys put up a lot of fundy yet. 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.440 I don't know exactly what was working at in the day. 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.440 It was a lot and everybody had opportunity to touch the bottle. 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:15.320 This so the offense was uh, very very versatile today. 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.880 I mean, what Flacca's doing is pretty extraordinary, more than 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.600 three hundred yards in the second half alone. What has 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:23.319 he shown you? 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.000 He's a veteran, he's showing us he a vetter. 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.120 When you scored with fifty four seconds to go to 0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:33.839 take the lead, what was running through your mind? 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:35.239 And the defense gonna stop? 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:40.840 It's coming frustrating at this point talking about, you know, 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.000 just needing eating stops as. 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.200 This time was why wee can meet up? 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.680 I'm getting tirdy I asking me about the defense and stops? Yeh, 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.640 I aks the defense that stopped asking me that on 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:51.319 my offensive play. 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:51.840 A though. 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:53.799 Joe was just. 0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.560 Talking in there about the the importance of what you 0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:57.759 guys said eight weeks left. 0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:58.799 It's an emotional game. 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:00.919 But all you can do is put your head down 0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.480 in work. How will you approach the next week and 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:04.880 a half. 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.399 But now what I did this week, i'm'a keep working 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:08.399 and being myself. 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.560 Takes some work tomorrow. What what does it say about 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:15.879 Joe Flackellen what he was able to do, fight through 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.040 the shoulder injury and throw f four seventy were veteran. 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.040 It's used to it kept his composure the whole game. 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.239 How hard is it to keep your composure after a 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:26.800 game like this? 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:29.279 It's not fun when you losing. 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:35.799 I guess I'll ask you the same question I asked 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.360 last week? How hard or what's it going to be 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.759 like maintaining hope through the bye week for the second half. 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.280 I'll go back to practice, work there and just play football. 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:48.759 Felt like you guys are kind of on the other 0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.360 end of of what happened last week. You rally in 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.160 the fourth party to score two touchdowns in like a 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.560 minute of game time. What goes through your mind when 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.800 you're scoring that second touchdown and particul a leap. 0:52:58.880 --> 0:52:59.760 Deep thing to get a stop? 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:04.960 Jamar after the game, and Jamar was asked about it. 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:08.080 Chase Brown was asking about it. Everybody in the offense 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.759 has been asked about it. And it's that it's that 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.920 delicate balance Dave of when when one side is putting 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.360 up so many points and the other side isn't, the 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.839 questions become about, you know, how do you feel about 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:20.919 the other guys not helping you out? And that makes 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.840 it it's always very uncomfortable and it's always a delicate 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.799 line because it is a team and you don't want 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.120 to throw anybody under the bus. But on one side 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:31.080 of the room, you've got a group that's doing their job, 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.200 and on the other side you're looking and saying, can 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:34.319 we get a little bit of help here? 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:34.640 Yeah? 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.640 Yeah, I mean, and in the locker room, they know that, 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.799 they understand that, you know, and it's almost like the 0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:46.120 defensive players come up to, you know, Joe Flacco and 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.279 Jamar Chase and t Higgins after the game say hey, guys, man, 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.360 you balled out. You gave every everything you had. Sorry 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.600 we could, we didn't give you enough support. We didn't 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.520 get it done. And you know, it literally does happen. 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.399 Some guys do do that. I mean, they feel like, man, 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:08.640 I just totally did not fulfill my responsibilities to help 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:12.960 a football team win. And uh, you know it's it stinks. 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.560 I mean, I've gotta I've gotta, I gotta be better. 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:17.400 I have to do a better job. I got to 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.879 take care of business and whatever I need to do 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.920 to take care of business, whether it's you know, change 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:28.040 my diet, change my workout habits, my uh procedure, how 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:29.919 many days a week. I do it. When I work 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.799 out how I work out. Uh, that's that's where they are. 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.839 The season is on the brink, as the old saying goes, 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.560 and everybody's got to do whatever it takes to get 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.799 the thing turned around quickly. Boy. 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.359 And you think there have been there's there's a lot 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:50.120 of guys on the defensive side who are young and learning, 0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:54.640 and that's that's always tough. But in tough times to 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:59.000 be in that situation, there's that back to the old 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:02.640 Marvin Lewis cliche, farm your own crops, do your job. 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.400 And when so much chaos is happening with the defense, 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.200 I would think the the inclination is I got to 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.120 make all the plays and I got to be everywhere 0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.360 at the same time. And when that happens, it's just 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.279 it's just chaos. And sometimes it looks like on the 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:19.520 field there's guys running around trying to do ten other 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:20.280 guys jobs. 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:25.439 Absolutely, and that's that's when you're you're one step away 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:26.040 from chaos. 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:26.640 Yes, you know. 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:32.920 It's like there's the coaches burn the midnight oil, putting 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:36.919 together game plans, putting together sche manics, putting together playbooks, 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.920 putting together you know, everything they can to get you 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.000 in a position to win a football game. And if 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.760 you decide, yeah, the hell with it, it's not working. 0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.960 And then panic sets in and guys, I'm gonna make 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.719 every tackle. I'm gonna have a fifty tackle game. You know, 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:57.920 It's like, come on, man, you know, just play football. 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.560 It's it's selfish. They're trying not to be They're trying 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:03.960 to be just the opposite. 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.200 Right, They're trying to help. They take their help anything. 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:10.520 Anything, and and literally, I mean, I'll give my right arm, 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.279 I'll give my right leg, you know, if that's what 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:17.399 it takes. Some guys are of that mindset, particularly crazy linebackers. Man, 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.480 it's that that is a uh that's a tough place 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.080 to be and uh the uh you have to go 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.000 see a sports psychologist and say, you know, how do 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.920 I how do I get over this? How do I 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:31.920 what do I do? How do I? How do I 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.879 take care of business in a different way? And it's 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.520 it's not an easy deal. And and you know, wives 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.680 and kids, uh suffer repercussions from that, and sometimes you know, 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.799 it leads to divorce and and and things that are 0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:47.880 tough in life, not just football life, but life in general. 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:51.280 So man, you can never take anything for granted, particularly 0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:52.200 in the game of football. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.840 Still ahead, we'll drop in our weekly Fun Facts conversation 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.720 Dan Horde with Noah Fant. You'll hear from orin Berks 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:02.239 and uh More. He's Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacallister. The 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.080 show is Bengals Line. We do it on the Bengals 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:11.399 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.520 We're back on Bengals Line on this Monday night on 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:17.720 the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty through yesterday 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.880 at pay Corpse Stadium, looking ahead of the bye and 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.160 trade deadline tomorrow and all that to get to. I'm 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.120 Lance Pacallister. He is Dave Lapham. 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:28.000 A lot of activity coming up, Lance, a lot of activities. Bye. 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.000 We couldn't come at a better time and they need 0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.400 to get away from it. Hey, Bengals fans on Fridays, 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.440 make sure to listen to myself and Dan Horde from 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.840 Bengals pep Rally presented by Just Bear Chicken on the 0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.640 air from three to six pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:44.520 We love Dan Horde's weekly fun Fact segment. This week, 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.840 the spotlight on Bengals tight end Noah Fan. Two catches 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.840 on three targets an average of fourteen yards to catch 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:53.680 the twenty three yard for a touchdown. Here is Dan 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:58.800 with fun facts and Bengals tight end no Offen no 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.000 fantastic facts. 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:01.600 With Dan Ord. 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:04.560 Time for some fun facts with tight end Noah Fan 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.439 from Omaha, Nebraska, the biggest city in Nebraska, the home 0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:11.880 of the College World Series Noah. Based on what I've read, 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.480 you're the youngest of six kids. Is that accurate? And 0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:16.280 what was that like? 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.720 Yeah, I'm definitely definitely the youngest of six, three brothers 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:23.040 and two sisters, and it was a great, great upbringing. 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:25.280 Definitely. 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.600 My my siblings thought I was a little bit spoiled, 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.880 but it was great. I have great relationships with all 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.800 of them, so couldn't complain. 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:35.240 It's funny you say that because I'm the fourth of five, 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:39.840 and my older siblings always said, You've got it so easy. 0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:42.040 Mom and dad have just kind of given up. They're 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:43.160 letting you do whatever you want. 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:43.520 Yeah. 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.840 No, I definitely definitely think there's some of the same. 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.120 But my parents were tough on me growing up, but 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.840 in a good way, so I was blessed to have them. 0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.640 One of your older brothers was your high school coach. 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:55.920 Was he tough on you? 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:56.800 Uh? 0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:57.440 Yeah, I think so. 0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.240 I think my brother just wanted the best for me, 0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:04.040 wanted me to do achieved greatness, And yeah, he was 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.560 a big part of my development early on growing up, 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.120 as with my dad and my mom. 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.800 But yeah, he was. He was a big part of that. 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:15.080 You attended Omaha South High School but also took classes 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:18.360 at the University of Nebraska Medical Center while you were 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:19.800 in high school. Tell me about that. 0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:23.480 Yeah, the un m C High School Alliance was kind 0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:26.480 of a program for high school students to kind of 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:28.000 get a fast track to. 0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:32.120 Any medical profession that they wanted to get into going 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:32.760 into college. 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.840 So it was taking college classes out of college at 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:40.320 a college campus and you know, kind of working in 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.280 and seeing what path we wanted to take when we 0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:43.000 got into college. 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:44.600 So it was a great experience. 0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.480 And I still keep in touch with some of the 0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.240 people that run that program and have gone back to 0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:52.360 visit before. And yeah, I'm just super fortunate to be 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:53.720 able to partake in that. 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:57.240 You dealt with Kidavers, Yeah, what was that like? 0:59:57.960 --> 0:59:59.680 You know, it's definitely a unique experience. 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.959 Not something that I thought that I would have been 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.120 doing that young but uh man, what a cool like 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.440 a like a cool experience and a blessing for me 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:11.840 to be able to do that at such a young 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.400 age and really learn. I learned so much in that 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.480 in that program and the classes that I took, so 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.280 I was super fortunate to be able to be a 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:19.680 part of that. 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.440 In your scouting report coming out of college on NFL 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:27.200 dot com, it said you had an idea of possibly 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.920 being a surgeon after playing football. Is that still a 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:32.280 remote possibility in your mind? 1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.240 I'm not so sure yet. There's a lot of schooling 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:37.520 that I would have to go through after playing football 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.520 in year seven, so we'll see how it plays out. 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:43.080 But not shutting in any doors. 1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:46.080 We're visiting with Noah Fant. When it came time to 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.920 pick a college, you chose the school with a reputation 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:54.320 of being tight end You Iowa, Dallas Clark, George Kittle, TJ. Howkinson, 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:57.560 Sam Laporta, Eric alf from the Bengals, and others. How 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.000 do you explain that lineage of Greade tight ends? 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:00.680 Yeah? 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:04.040 I think that just like when I was going to Iowa, 1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:08.120 the guys that were kind of there before me were 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:13.920 like Dallas car Tony Malaki, I think Scott Chandler, guys 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:18.080 of that nature that had been there before and had 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:20.400 made it to the NFL. And it was just kind 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.160 of one of those things that was that was a 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:24.120 selling point that if I wanted to play tight end 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:26.200 in a in an offense that used the tight end 1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:29.800 quite often, that I wanted to be able to do 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:33.040 that and go and go there. And obviously my freshman 1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:35.560 year was Georgia's senior year, and then after that it's 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:38.800 just been pumping out tight ends, uh, definitely more frequently 1:01:38.840 --> 1:01:41.320 ever since. So it's been It's been a really cool 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:42.400 experience to be a part of. 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:42.840 For sure. 1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:46.080 Is it almost like a self fulfilling prophecy where the 1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:49.280 best high school tight ends in the country gravitate to 1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:52.360 Iowa and then it's almost destiny that they're going to 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:53.280 turn out to be pros. 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:56.200 You know, Honestly, I think that I wouldn't necessarily say 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.959 the best, like the best top recruits that tightened really 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:00.960 go to Iowa. I think I would does a really 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:04.640 good job of identifying guys that have the traits and 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:05.600 then developing them. 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:07.120 Like when I was coming out of high school. 1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:10.439 As a three star athlete out of Nebraska, I had 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:14.080 like fifteen offers from different schools, but wasn't like a 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:17.680 top recruited five star tight end coming out of out 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:19.840 of high school. So they do a great job of 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:24.480 identifying guys with those traits and developing them into a 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:27.400 all around tight end. So that was something I was 1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:30.440 really proud of going there and being a part of. 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:33.160 After three years with the Hot Eyes, you entered the 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:36.120 draft and were selected in the first round twentieth overall 1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:38.440 by Denver. Describe your draft night experience. 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:40.400 Yeah, it was a great experience. 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:43.200 I mean, obviously it was waiting a little bit twenty 1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:45.600 picks in, but it wasn't complaining at all. It was 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:48.919 just like a very stressful situation. But what a cool 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:52.240 experience for me and my family being there all together 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:54.400 in the green room and getting that call from Denver 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:58.400 at the time, and it was a surreal moment, So 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:00.960 really cool experience for for me and my family. 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:04.240 You had three good years in Denver, you probably expected 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:06.080 to be there for a long long time, and then 1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:09.480 the Broncos pulled off a blockbuster trade for Russell Wilson, 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:13.320 giving up multiple high draft picks and yourself in that deal. 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:17.040 Did you have any inkling that you might be traded 1:03:17.120 --> 1:03:18.200 or was it a total shock? 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:18.920 No, I was. 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:22.280 I was pretty shocked, to be honest with you, Hindsight 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:25.160 twenty twenty. Obviously, I'll understand, right, it's like you get 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:28.320 your shot at a franchise quarterback at the time that 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:31.640 you think it's your franchise quarterback, and you're gonna do whatever. 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:33.480 You know, you're not going to hold back a tight 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.040 end for that deal, you know what I'm saying. So 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:39.000 I understood, I understood it. I was definitely shocked and 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:43.600 taken it back by it. Some would say blindsided, but like, man, 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:48.120 it was such crazy experience. And obviously was traded to 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:52.120 Seattle and had some good years there, but uh, yeah, 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.680 it was. It was definitely wild, a wild experience for sure. 1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:57.400 So three years in Denver, three years in Seattle, and 1:03:57.440 --> 1:04:00.280 then earlier this year they let you go kind of 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:03.240 in a salary cap dump type situation. But it did 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.919 give you the opportunity to choose for the first time 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:07.840 since you were in high school. Did you enjoy that? 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:12.880 It was a very interesting experience because it was I 1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:16.680 supposed choosing, but at a time that was very late 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:20.520 in the process, and you know, got people had already 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:22.800 really had the roster set and things of that nature. 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.680 So yeah, it was nice to choose, I suppose, but 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:29.439 like wasn't an ideal situation that late in the game, 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:33.960 which was kind of a little frustrating. But yeah, I 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:36.560 was happy to be able to land in Cincinnati. What 1:04:36.640 --> 1:04:39.520 a great place for me to land at with coach 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:44.920 Taylor and pitch and James Casey is a great, great 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:48.240 Titans coach. I've been really really fortunate to be able 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:51.240 to work with them and be in a good situation here. 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:54.280 So it ended up working out, But obviously it was 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:57.120 definitely a process to get there for sure. 1:04:57.680 --> 1:04:59.840 All Right, a few wild card topics now for Bengals 1:04:59.840 --> 1:05:03.240 type and Noah Fan, who is your all time favorite 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:05.480 athlete in any sport? 1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:08.760 I would say you Michael Jordan. I wasn't old enough 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:10.960 to like see him in his prime, but just like 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:13.840 the greatness of him and the championships that he's won, 1:05:14.360 --> 1:05:15.680 that his all of his highlights. 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:16.920 He's just an iconic player. 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.280 Whenever someone mentions like a goat of a sport, it's 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.720 like he automatically comes up. He's definitely a polarizing player 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:28.120 that not only changed the game but changed really just 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:31.360 like the world kind of honestly, He's like he was 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:32.720 a world known athlete. 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:36.400 So it was like, what a cool what a cool experience, 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:37.440 like experience. 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.080 To be able to see but unfortunately I wasn't able 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:41.120 to see it, But what a cool experience to like 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:43.160 be able to go back and watch those highlights and 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:44.560 experience that greatness. 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:46.840 So and he made it okay for people like me 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:51.240 to be bald. Yeah, you've spent seven years in the NFL, 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:54.240 You've done well financially. What do you like to splur John? 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:55.440 Uh? 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:58.560 Food, That's like, that's one of the things that I'll 1:05:58.600 --> 1:06:01.320 like pay a good dollar for, is like a just 1:06:01.360 --> 1:06:04.720 a really good meal, especially like with friends and families, 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:06.720 which is which is one of the things that I 1:06:06.840 --> 1:06:07.640 value very much. 1:06:07.680 --> 1:06:09.280 So food is definitely one of those things. 1:06:09.720 --> 1:06:14.840 Big fancy steakhous are something more eclectic and foodie either one. 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:18.040 I'm I'm a pretty wide range guy that'll that'll like 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:22.040 have anything to eat, And honestly, it's a it's just 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.240 a what's the choice of the day, honestly. 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:29.840 So other than sports, do you have any hidden talents? 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:31.680 I don't know about hidden talents. 1:06:31.720 --> 1:06:34.280 I just kind of I try to view myself as 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:37.440 like a like a pretty multi faceted guy, Like I 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:40.120 just like a lot of different things. I do a 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:42.440 lot of different things, and I don't think there's just 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:45.760 one one singular thing that I'm like super talented at though. 1:06:46.400 --> 1:06:48.919 All Right, final fun fact for Noah F This one's 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:52.800 kind of deep. If you could meet anybody in history, 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:56.520 living or deceased, who would that person be? 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:04.400 I would want to EAT's my dad's dad. He passed 1:07:04.440 --> 1:07:07.480 away when my dad was very young, so it'd have 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:09.480 been my grandpa. But I never got to meet him. 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:14.240 But I definitely wouldn't want to met him and just 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:17.040 kind of talk to him and see what he see 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:19.360 how he viewed life, see how he viewed everything. Obviously 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:24.360 my dad didn't wasn't able to have those those moments 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:28.240 with him very long, But yeah, I think those would 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:30.560 be some really cool conversations to see what he thought. 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:32.919 No doubt about it. No, I appreciate your time, best 1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:33.800 of luck the rest of the year. 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:34.680 Thank you appreciate it. 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:39.200 No The subject of fun facts, that conversation and more 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:43.439 each week The Bengals Booth Podcast still ahead, we'll talk 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.640 special teams. How about it the day by special teams. 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.800 You hear from special team or extraordinary or in Berks 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:52.640 and so much more as we continue with Bengals Line 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:56.240 on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 1:07:56.280 --> 1:08:01.680 Sports Station rolling right along on this Monday night and 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:06.640 Bengals on the Bengals the Radio fifteen thirty Lamskay Muster, 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:10.000 Dave Lap them special teams in the spotlight in this segment. 1:08:10.200 --> 1:08:12.920 Bengals got a kick return for a touchdown, they recovered 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:15.480 it on side kick, they deflected and blocked a field goal. 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:17.400 We'll get into all of that in this segment, but 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:20.080 let's start it off with conversation with the man who 1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:24.160 plays special teams and linebacker. He's the veteran want to 1:08:24.320 --> 1:08:26.920 ring with the Philadelphia Eagles, That would be Oron Burks. 1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:29.479 Here's Dan Horde with Oran after the game. 1:08:29.880 --> 1:08:33.840 They played fast, we played physical. Like I said, this 1:08:33.840 --> 1:08:35.680 player here here or there, they're gonna change the game. 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:38.720 So for us, it's about sick sticking together in our room, 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:41.000 and I truly believe that they're going to be on 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:41.800 the other side of this thing. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:43.120 At the end of the year. Did they do it 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:45.080 on the ground? 1:08:44.840 --> 1:08:46.800 Would just run ball? All the runs that we've seen 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:48.240 throughout the year, same shots, Thomas. 1:08:48.240 --> 1:08:51.000 Again, it's for us. You gotta get off tape, so 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:52.120 expect to work. 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:54.479 Can you can you run through the on site? 1:08:55.120 --> 1:08:57.720 Yeah, just on the side. You knew were gonna have 1:08:57.720 --> 1:08:59.200 an opportunity to get to the ball and. 1:08:59.640 --> 1:09:01.920 Just got a scratch, claw, crawl, just. 1:09:01.840 --> 1:09:03.600 Try to get the ball out. That's that was my 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:05.439 first time getting on side. So it was pretty pretty cool. 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:06.439 You grab it for somebody? 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:07.519 What was going on down there? 1:09:07.600 --> 1:09:09.080 Is just a scrum man just trying to get the ball. 1:09:09.720 --> 1:09:11.519 Did you guys know that they touched it so it 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:11.880 was live? 1:09:12.040 --> 1:09:14.280 Yeah? Yeah, so I hit off the the guy went 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:14.800 out to block. 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:18.360 So when you're a veteran, obviously you've played on championship teams, 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:21.880 what is your message to younger players who are obviously very. 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:22.639 Emotional right now? 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:24.559 Yeah, there's gotta be no quit uh, and I don't 1:09:24.560 --> 1:09:25.280 see that on this team. 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:26.160 There's no quit inn this team. 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:28.320 And uh, we gotta rely on each other, trust each other, 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:29.400 and I'll just get back to work. 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:32.720 I think I think the day, uh, I think the 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:34.360 day began. You had a hell of a block on 1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:35.640 Charlie's kick returning it. 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:36.360 See it seems like. 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:40.280 About eight years ago, but uh what Uh can you 1:09:40.360 --> 1:09:41.400 run through that one too. 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:43.880 Yeah, we were just stressing making a game change of 1:09:43.920 --> 1:09:46.160 play on special teams and uh that what what a 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:47.799 great way to start the game with the opening kickoff 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:49.320 take it into the house and uh that. 1:09:49.479 --> 1:09:51.040 That again just comes back to the work. 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:52.880 Uh, And and Darren's been doing a great job of 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:54.640 putting us in the right positions. It's it's for us 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:56.040 to go out and execute consistently. 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:57.120 So that's what we're working on. 1:09:57.280 --> 1:09:59.759 How much was the opportunities in the last two weeks, 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:03.240 two chances to close games out at home staying over 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:04.960 the next twenty four forty eight hours. 1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:06.600 Yeah, it definitely stings, but you know, at the end 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.080 of the day, those games are over with and uh 1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:09.559 we got a n A buy right now so we 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:11.960 can refresh and get right back to it. And Uh, 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:13.439 like I said, I just really believe in this team. 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:15.640 There's no quitting this team. And uh's for us, uh 1:10:15.680 --> 1:10:17.360 to just keep working and s and stick together. 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.120 Obviously, you guys have the players only running on Monday, 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:20.959 Are you a little. 1:10:20.720 --> 1:10:26.000 Bit surprised, disappointed in the fundamentals today, the tackling. 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:27.120 Yeah, we're just gonna keep working. 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:27.400 Uh. 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:29.679 You know, there's it's not gonna be fixing one week. 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:32.160 You know, it's continually getting better week by week. And 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:34.200 uh it just looking looking at ourselves in the mirror. 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:36.160 Am I giving my best effort into my on top 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:38.640 of my assignments? And you know that's that's something we 1:10:38.640 --> 1:10:41.040 can all do. Uh, there's no point fingers and uh 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:43.679 that's for us as pros to to to get it fixed. 1:10:44.120 --> 1:10:46.679 They ran for uh two sixty last uh two fifty? 1:10:46.880 --> 1:10:49.160 Well, uh good about five hundred the last two weeks. 1:10:49.240 --> 1:10:51.320 Is there any thing you could put your finger on 1:10:51.439 --> 1:10:52.960 in the run in the run deeper? 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.240 We're gonna we're gonna fix it internally. We know what 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:57.360 needs to be be uh be done to to stop 1:10:57.360 --> 1:10:58.800 the run game. You can't stop the run, You're not 1:10:58.800 --> 1:11:00.280 gonna win in this league. That's what it comes too. 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:03.160 So for us, as you know, everybody just committed to it. 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:07.400 As a defensive guy, you love those situations with a 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:09.240 minute to go and a chance to make the play 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:10.360 right to win the game. 1:11:10.439 --> 1:11:11.439 Yeah, you want it on your back. 1:11:11.479 --> 1:11:13.000 You know the offense did a great job driving down 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:14.559 the field, putting us in a position to win, and 1:11:15.120 --> 1:11:17.760 we just came up short. And you know, there's no 1:11:17.760 --> 1:11:20.200 point in the fingers is again like everybody looking internally 1:11:20.240 --> 1:11:22.400 at ourselves, How can I be better? Just being the 1:11:22.400 --> 1:11:24.520 best riding themselves out there on the field, and collectively 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:26.160 that's what we're gonna like the results if you could 1:11:26.360 --> 1:11:27.080 continue to do that. 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:29.800 Are there times in your career, whether defenses or just 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:31.760 teams you were on just seem like it was kind 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:33.439 of going the wrong way no matter what you've tried, 1:11:33.479 --> 1:11:35.000 and then you guys found a way to dog guys 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:37.120 or something you look back on and remember his keys 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:37.960 to things like that. 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:40.439 Yeah, I feel like in life in general, you're going 1:11:40.520 --> 1:11:43.040 to face adversities. Is how you respond. And like I 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:46.160 said this, this team has no quit. The guys are 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:49.080 committed to getting it right. It hasn't shown yet. Well, 1:11:49.080 --> 1:11:51.040 you know, I feel like we're continuing taking steps forward 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:51.960 to get better. 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:56.799 Thanks Flacko's performance, I mean, four hundred and fifty plus 1:11:56.840 --> 1:11:59.519 three hundred yards in the second half with an ac 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:02.800 joint sprain. Are you just astounded by what that guy's doing. 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:04.960 Yeah, guy's tough. Guy's tough. He's been playing this league 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:07.320 for a long time. There's a reason why. And you know, 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:10.360 for him to step up in that way coming off 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:12.160 of you know, a cu on the throwing on that's 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:14.679 that just shows like how much he's committed to giving 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:15.080 his best. 1:12:15.160 --> 1:12:17.120 And for us, it's like, all right, we look at that. 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:18.880 You know that that should inspire us to give a 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:22.040 little bit more. So, just hats off to him the 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.760 training staff for getting him right this week on a 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.720 quick turnaround. You know, so we just got to get 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:30.360 right back with the boy. We get fresh and get 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:31.680 healthy and be ready to go. 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:34.280 For the wrong rung with the on side kick recovery 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:38.360 and the subsequent touchdown where you briefly thinking this is 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:40.320 going to go down as one of the most memorable 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:41.519 wins that I've been a part of. 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:43.200 Man, I've been just trying to do the best I 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.760 can on that one play. You know, we had one 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:47.240 a couple of weeks ago. We had the opportunity to 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:48.960 get the ball and then you know, I looked at Tanner, 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:51.920 I was like, we gotta get this one. So, you know, again, 1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:54.200 just believe in each other. I feel like that's the 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:56.680 common theme is is sticking together and believe in each other. 1:12:57.160 --> 1:12:58.960 We're gonna like we'll see at the end of the day. 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:03.439 Along side Kick, what happened You're down in the bottom 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:04.760 of the scrum. What was happening to you? 1:13:05.800 --> 1:13:07.240 I don't know what happened, man, I'm just trying to 1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:09.400 find a way to get it come up with the more. Yeah, 1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:11.360 I mean, that's that's part of everybody knows. The bottom 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:13.240 of the pile can get kind of crazy. But you know, 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:16.000 one objectives to come out with the ball, so you 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:17.080 find a way to get that done. 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:20.400 You always look forward to a bye week, but I 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:22.479 think does this team really need it in the light 1:13:22.520 --> 1:13:24.559 of the last couple of weeks and how tough those 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:25.200 losses have been. 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:26.920 Yeah, I think it's coming out a good time for us, 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:29.080 you know, just refresh our minds, refresh our bodies, and 1:13:29.400 --> 1:13:30.639 come back ready to go for the wrong Hull. 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:32.000 Appreciate your thank you. 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:34.160 Oron Burks after the game and Dave, we were talking 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:37.640 about Ted Carris and his veteran presence and voice, and 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:40.400 Oron Burks has been there, done that, He's been through 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:43.320 winning times with the Philadelphia Eagles. He's a guy who 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:46.479 embraces special teams. He can give you snaps on defense. 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:49.320 He's another kind of like we talked about Sama J. 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:51.160 P Ry just being a guy who may not be 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:54.719 a star, but he's a guy that every roster needs 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:56.840 if if they're going to get things done, and he 1:13:56.880 --> 1:13:57.280 can do. 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:00.360 That absolutely, a guy that's versatile. Yeah, you know, can 1:14:00.600 --> 1:14:03.080 can do everything. Play the linebacker position for you do 1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:06.920 play the run, come Downhill's big enough to to stuff 1:14:06.960 --> 1:14:10.360 the running game and and uh come downhill defeat blockers. 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:13.160 Uh shed those blockers and get off of them, and 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:16.280 and and make plays. But he's also athletic enough with 1:14:16.840 --> 1:14:21.599 quick feet. Uh can move laterally well, can play zone 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:24.840 or a man in your in past coverages. So you know, 1:14:25.200 --> 1:14:28.400 Al Golden loves the guy, and Darren Simmons does as well. 1:14:29.040 --> 1:14:31.600 Darren Simmons he was he was all fired up. I 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:33.719 mean it was fun to see Darren out there running 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:35.800 out in the field high five and shaking hands with 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:38.680 guys even before they you know, were totally off off 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:41.960 the football field. There were some things that drove nuts 1:14:41.960 --> 1:14:43.800 as well. He was pulling his hair out by the 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:46.200 by the roots. Got some bald coaches today in their 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:49.320 coaches room up there in the shower, but I mean 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:53.400 it is, uh. Aaron Buroks is a coach's dream. He's 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:56.720 one of those guys that just does his job and 1:14:57.560 --> 1:15:02.400 is quiet about it, doesn't raise you know, he does 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:05.360 not try to draw try to draw attention to himself, 1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:07.280 like look at me, I'm the man, I'm the guy. 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:09.120 Total team player. 1:15:09.520 --> 1:15:13.360 Yesterday from the special team side of things, two hundred 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.360 and ninety seven yards and kickoff return yards of course, 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.240 helped by Charlie Jones going ninety nine, but p Ryan 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:21.280 had a thirty nine yard kick return, Brooks had a 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:24.160 thirty one yard kick return. And how about the recover 1:15:24.240 --> 1:15:26.800 the on side kick Dave? Going into yesterday, there had 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.639 been fifty on side kick attempts this season and they're 1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:32.200 much harder because you have to declare and the rules 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:36.000 have changed. But only three of fifty six percent of 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:38.479 on side kicks had been recovered and the Bengals get 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:39.280 one yesterday. 1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:42.519 That's big. That's big. That's uh. That's Darren Simmons at 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:45.599 his finest right there, and it is I mean, talk 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:49.200 to him about it. With the new the new formations 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:52.360 that you have to get into for kickoff returns, and 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:55.960 it's all all for player safety. It's all with right 1:15:56.040 --> 1:16:00.760 intentions in mind. But I wonder if this offseason or 1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:04.040 an offseason shortly thereafter, there is not some kind of 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:07.120 movement by special teams, coaches and maybe organizations as a 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:09.599 whole to go back to the old way of doing things, 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:14.479 because I mean, when when Charlie Jones was returning that kickoff, man, 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:17.240 I was jacked up, man, you know, I mean the 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:19.160 old the old blood was pumping. You could feel the 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:22.920 blood pressure raising, you know, as as was going on. 1:16:23.240 --> 1:16:26.240 There's nothing like that type of excitement. That's why people 1:16:26.280 --> 1:16:29.320 pay big dollars, top dollar to go to NFL games 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:30.880 to be entertained like that. Boy. 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:33.720 And back to that point of the on site kick 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:36.320 if only six percent, if you're if you're if you 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:38.639 have a rule and you're doing something that is only 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:42.439 successful six percent of the time, to me, that scream 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:44.960 something has to change. It's got to be it's gotta 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.120 be more productive than six percent of the I'm not 1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:50.160 saying crazy like fifty percent of on site kicker recovered, 1:16:50.600 --> 1:16:53.559 but something better than six Otherwise, what's the use? 1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.080 Why why would you even try it? You know, it's like, 1:16:57.040 --> 1:16:58.880 you know, kick the ball deep and let your defense 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:01.519 hopefully you can they can rise up and get a 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:03.160 three and out and get the ball back that way. 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:06.479 So it's going to be interesting to monitor and I 1:17:06.560 --> 1:17:09.160 see how that all tracks down heading down the stretch. 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:12.240 Final segment in this hour. That a full third hour 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:15.719 to go tonight, hang with us. Thanks for tagging along 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:18.320 on Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:21.840 fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, putting the raps on our 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:24.680 second hour of three tonight on Bengals Line of the 1:17:24.680 --> 1:17:29.639 Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty and Woday Nation. 1:17:29.800 --> 1:17:32.559 It's time to recognize our high school coaches and man, 1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:37.479 they do a good job getting guys groomed and ready 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:40.080 for the National Football League. High school football in the 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:43.880 city of Cincinnati is phenomenal. It is played at an 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:46.760 extremely high level. Nominate your coach for the Bengals Coach 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:49.599 of the Week presented by pay Corps Bengals dot Com 1:17:49.640 --> 1:17:51.240 Slash Coach of the Week Dave. 1:17:51.280 --> 1:17:53.759 Final thought. In this hour, we'll get into our third 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:56.479 hour with more of Zach and Joe Flacco and some 1:17:56.600 --> 1:18:02.200 other things. The trade deadline is tomorrow. Interesting situation because 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:04.880 on one hand, you want to you certainly want to 1:18:04.920 --> 1:18:07.160 do what you can when you can to help your team, 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:09.720 but you have to weigh what you're going to give up, 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.120 what you're going to get where you are in the standings. 1:18:12.280 --> 1:18:14.880 It's just it's a line you have to walk as 1:18:14.920 --> 1:18:16.559 an organization. Heading in it tomorrow. 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:20.240 Right in the Bengals, Mike Brown values draft picks like 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:24.919 Paul Paul always did, and Mike has the same mindset, 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:27.880 the same mentality to the game of football. So they're 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:31.439 not going to be irresponsible in terms of throwing draft 1:18:31.439 --> 1:18:35.280 picks around at the trade deadline. But it's going to 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:38.200 be interesting, you know. Obviously, the biggest name that people 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:40.200 are wondering about is Trey Hendrickson. You know, there's all 1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:42.960 kinds of social media. Trey Hendrickson wants to be traded, 1:18:43.160 --> 1:18:45.559 He's asked to be traded, He's gone, Trey Henderson, Where's 1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:47.599 he going to go? Oh? You know, they're talking about 1:18:47.600 --> 1:18:50.760 the Indianapolis Colts and what an acquisition that would be 1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:53.040 in reunite him with Lou and Rumo, the guy that 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:57.519 you know was his coach when he had his big 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:00.560 sack years back. To back seventeen and a half seasons, 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:04.400 but I just don't think. I'm not sure they do anything. 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:07.800 I'm not sure Trey Henderson goes anywhere. I think he 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:09.960 may at the end of the season when the season's over, 1:19:10.320 --> 1:19:12.360 but I think he finishes this year out as a Bengal. 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:15.800 We've put two in the books. Hang with us, we 1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:19.240 unfold the third hour. Up next Bengals Line and the 1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:23.519 Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:28.160 This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay Corps. 1:19:28.360 --> 1:19:31.080 Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:35.000 provider of US Cincinnati Bengals, Kettering Health Best Care for 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:38.920 the Best Fans, Kettering ELF official healthcare provider of US 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:43.720 Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:45.600 the best Bengals coverage. 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:48.280 Hey, welcome back into Bengals Line on this Monday night, 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:50.599 our third and final hour. Thanks for being with us. 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:53.960 We have walked and talked our way through yesterday forty 1:19:54.000 --> 1:19:56.599 seven forty two, a lost to the Bears. Look ahead 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:59.280 to what is up ahead for this team, and get 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:01.200 into a couple of for things in this hour and 1:20:01.280 --> 1:20:03.360 always time to get into a car, Dave lap I'm. 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:03.800 Time to do it. 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.559 Lance and Alti Fiber the official Wi Fi and ended 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.280 up providing with the Bengals and Greater Cincinnati's fastest Internet 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:14.400 was up to two gig symmetrical speeds. Boy, two gig 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:16.240 symmetrical speeds. I wonder what that means. 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:19.559 That's really good speedy. Yes, it's really good speedy and 1:20:19.680 --> 1:20:23.200 really fast and impressive. That's the extent of my explanation 1:20:23.280 --> 1:20:24.760 of it. Just get it and you'll be happy with 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:28.040 Let's go there, you go. Let's let's go back to yesterday. 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:31.720 Get more thoughts from the coach, Zach Taylor on what transpired. 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:32.599 Here's Zach Taylor. 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:34.760 Yeah, just I can't I can't believe it. I can't 1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:35.120 believe it. 1:20:37.000 --> 1:20:39.400 Getings right there, and then we just we don't find 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:40.760 a way to get it done and win again. We 1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:42.760 just got to make one play, just one play, and 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:46.000 some of these losses turned to the wins, and so 1:20:46.040 --> 1:20:49.000 again we just gotta coaches with just the this week, 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:53.880 finding a way, finding a way to help everybody and 1:20:54.560 --> 1:20:55.080 get it done. 1:20:55.120 --> 1:20:58.439 Because this is it's sick. It's sick to lose like that. 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:01.639 It's sick. That's what happened. 1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:03.320 So we got to own it, and we got to 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:05.639 keep finding ways to improve and and keep finding ways 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:06.240 to find a win. 1:21:07.880 --> 1:21:12.439 The last two weeks it hasn't happened. Surprise, rustrated and whatever. 1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:17.000 Well, we we got to find a way to get 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.760 them fixed. We are I mean, we're like crazy, what 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:22.320 We're trying to do everything we can to get it done. 1:21:22.600 --> 1:21:25.320 And and so again that's so it's not because of 1:21:25.320 --> 1:21:28.719 a lack of work, lack of effort, lack of trying 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:31.559 to cover every single stone to get it done. But 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:33.600 but it's it is tough. This has just been the 1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:34.519 result that we're dealing with. 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:36.839 Is there anything missing? 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:39.920 We just got to find a way to make a play, 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:42.439 get off field. I mean, it's it's no turnovers today, 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:45.760 you know. And this is a team that's you know, 1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:47.679 they're going to finish plus two in the turno battle today, 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:49.960 Chicago is and that's where all the wins have come from. 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:51.720 And so you lose the game by five points. They're 1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:53.439 plus two in the turnovers, they've been plus three, but 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:55.120 they've been plus four, they've been plus three a lot 1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:57.240 of their wins and so kind of more of the 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:57.720 same for that. 1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:00.559 Exactly's a tough plus three today. I guess what they were. 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:03.000 Probably tough game to play at a nine yard line 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.400 there were you're thinking about possibly trying to force them 1:22:05.400 --> 1:22:06.400 into the final time out. 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:07.800 We ran the ball, I mean that's what we did 1:22:07.840 --> 1:22:10.040 on the first player ran the ball. So you get 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:12.639 cute and you forced them to do that, and then 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:14.559 you have no points and then the game's over. So 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:17.200 we should trust our guys to get out there and 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:20.320 make a play. And and uh, that's that's just the 1:22:20.360 --> 1:22:20.800 way it goes. 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:23.920 Is it as simple as bringing Colston down after he 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:25.639 makes that catch? There just someone tackling. 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:28.760 Yeah, get him on the ground, force him into a 1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:30.840 tough field goal, you know, at that point once the 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:33.840 play has been completed, make him execute man again. We 1:22:33.960 --> 1:22:41.640 just didn't get him on the ground, score a touchdown. 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:43.880 I mean in the Houston game a couple of years ago, 1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:45.960 were very similar. We were right there a couple of 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:50.840 years ago. So it's just it's that's a tough one 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.759 the stomach, but it's the result is the result. 1:22:54.040 --> 1:22:59.200 And and so again I feel sick right now. 1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:01.280 But all we can do is pick ourselves up and 1:23:01.360 --> 1:23:04.000 keep fighting and That's the beauty of being in this 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:06.720 profession and being this locker room is is we see 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:07.200 what we're made of. 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:08.080 We're going to keep fighting. 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:09.759 We we know it was gonna be pretty loud noise 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:14.280 out there, criticism, It's deserved when when we're the record 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:17.599 we are and the results we've had. We're gonna keep 1:23:17.600 --> 1:23:19.519 showing our character and keep fighting and find a way 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:22.640 to lead these guys and find a way to to 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:25.679 make some plays and get some wins and and keep 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:26.320 this season alive. 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:27.840 That's what we're gonna do. Be fixed. 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:30.120 We're going to find a way. We're going to do 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:31.519 everything we can to find a way. I think it's 1:23:31.520 --> 1:23:33.439 impossible for me to say yes or no. We've been 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:36.880 trying everything we can, so we'll just keep working at it. 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:40.840 Four thirty eight points last week, forty two yeah this week. 1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.760 Most would say in the NFL, that's more than enough 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:44.639 points to win a game. 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:49.799 How do you manage the locker room and not having 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:51.880 the offensive players feel any sort of reasons? 1:23:52.080 --> 1:23:54.120 We fight like hell every single day to maintain the culture. 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:54.360 We have. 1:23:54.520 --> 1:23:58.120 Fight every single day. Talk to everybody I can possibly 1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:01.519 talk to. We're fighting, and these guys if you've watched 1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:04.719 them practice, they're they're like hell, working working like crazy 1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:05.880 in practice. 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:08.160 And so again, we just. 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:11.479 Got to get someone in, got to get a play, 1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:13.840 someone builds off that play, and and we we find 1:24:13.840 --> 1:24:16.360 a way to get some momentum defense and and just 1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:17.840 haven't found a way to do that lately. 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:18.320 Coming into the season. 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:20.280 There's a lot of talk on defense potentially be better 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:21.320 through nine games. 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:23.320 Why do you think that hasn't been serio, you just 1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:24.920 got to find a way. You know, we're we're we're 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:25.680 working hard at it. 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:27.720 And and I know that's a that's a hard thing 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:29.559 to listen to me say over and over. 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:31.280 That's the answer there. 1:24:31.360 --> 1:24:33.240 There's not a magic formula that we're just gonna we 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:35.040 do it if we if we could, and so we're 1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:37.400 just gonna keep finding ways. We got the bye week, 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:39.040 we've got to keep working through it. See if there's 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:40.720 something we're missing, See if there's something we can we 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.439 can enhance, We'll work at it. 1:24:44.680 --> 1:24:47.280 Joe Flacco plays through the injury, has the performance he does, 1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:50.520 and you know that to go to waste essentially, how. 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:52.960 And there's a lot of great performances day. What Joe 1:24:52.960 --> 1:24:56.320 Flacco did for us this week. You'll never forget, you know, 1:24:56.560 --> 1:25:01.120 and and I mean just knowing what our quarterback room 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:03.080 is working through right now, what Joe Burrow is doing too, 1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:05.880 and Joe Flacco and with Jake's all the things he's done, 1:25:06.080 --> 1:25:08.599 it's a really mentally tough room that leads by example. 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.960 Joe Flacco got the opportunity to show that this week. 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:12.559 That's him. 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:15.320 Joe Burrow working like crazy behind the scenes to do 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.559 everything he can to help our team. 1:25:18.800 --> 1:25:19.840 Flacco, I mean he couldn't. 1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:22.360 He could barely lift his arm this week, you know, 1:25:22.439 --> 1:25:24.120 and he's blown to go put himself out there for 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:26.080 a bunch of teammates that he's been with for three weeks. 1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:27.760 You know. 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:29.200 He's a football player, That's what he's out of here 1:25:29.240 --> 1:25:30.720 and said, he said, I play football for a living. 1:25:30.760 --> 1:25:31.320 That's what I do. 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:35.200 And and oftentimes you need that throughout the locker room. 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:37.479 Guys they are just football players and they remember that 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:39.040 and they'll go out there and do whatever it takes 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:40.680 to help their team win a game, no matter what 1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:41.920 normack of the circumstances. 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:43.280 Got a bye week next week, get a chance to 1:25:43.280 --> 1:25:43.920 get rested up. 1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:45.960 That's how Joe Flacco looks at it, and so he 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:48.519 went out there and put himself on the line. I'm 1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:50.040 sure he's gonna be in a ton of pain tomorrow, 1:25:51.960 --> 1:25:53.599 and we'll give him ten days off and we'll see 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:54.559 if you can come back and do it again. 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:58.360 A terrific game, But what happened on that intentional then 1:25:58.520 --> 1:25:59.160 down kind of look. 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:01.320 Like we're missing. Yeah, we were checking to play and 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:05.520 did everybody get it? 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:08.680 The field goal was after after that the decision was. 1:26:08.600 --> 1:26:12.200 Out of It's a tough decision. It's a tough decision. 1:26:12.400 --> 1:26:14.559 You know, you're it's tough. You know whether that was 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:16.920 the right thing to do or not. I'll have to 1:26:16.920 --> 1:26:19.240 reflect on that. It's a split second decision because now 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:21.080 now you know you're in your head, you're thinking fourth 1:26:21.120 --> 1:26:26.280 and three or less potentially, and so then you've got 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:29.200 to shift very fast to the decision to kick the 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:31.240 field goal and okay, now you're down four and hope 1:26:31.280 --> 1:26:33.120 to get another possession to stop and go in the game. 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:36.120 So it was tricky that that was decision we made 1:26:36.120 --> 1:26:39.080 obviously didn't work out, and and I'll have to digest 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:44.479 if if I made the right one there. I'm going 1:26:44.560 --> 1:26:45.960 to keep fighting. The coach you're going to keep fighting. 1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:47.439 I know these players have shown that they're going to 1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:50.320 keep fighting. It's frustrating for everybody to put in the 1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:52.120 work that's being put in, and this is the result 1:26:52.160 --> 1:26:55.400 we've had. It's it's frustrating. And and uh, you know, 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:58.040 sometimes you got to take a deep breath and then 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:00.400 then come back to work and try to uplift others. 1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:04.320 That that's I faced a lot of diversity here. Uh, 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:06.880 and and the only thing I know how to do 1:27:07.080 --> 1:27:09.240 is keep trying to lift people up. That doesn't mean 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:12.640 we run from corrections, that doesn't mean we don't give criticism. 1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:14.720 But at the same time, the easy thing to do 1:27:14.800 --> 1:27:18.400 is question everything and point fingers and and and uh 1:27:18.520 --> 1:27:21.240 be negative and and be an energy vampire in a 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:23.599 lot of ways. And I think we got enough guys 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:25.120 that just want to continue to lift people up and 1:27:25.160 --> 1:27:29.160 fin answers, find solutions, help where they can make myself better, 1:27:29.320 --> 1:27:31.519 make the person next to me better. And that's that's 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:33.559 all I know how to do. That's how we built 1:27:33.600 --> 1:27:35.600 the coaching staff that does that too. We built a 1:27:35.680 --> 1:27:38.360 locker room full of leaders and great men that are 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:40.720 that are following suit there. And that's what I've seen 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:42.360 from them, and that's just what we're going to continue 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:44.920 to do. And I don't have something I can say 1:27:44.960 --> 1:27:46.840 that's going to say we we we're just going to 1:27:46.880 --> 1:27:48.360 fix this and things are going to be better. 1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:49.160 It's not that simple. 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.559 I wish it was, but I can promise you we're 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:54.639 gonna find, like kel to to keep keep finding when's 1:27:54.640 --> 1:27:56.000 here and get the season turned around. 1:27:57.720 --> 1:27:59.759 Like the tackling issues, especially when. 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:01.280 We work quite crazy at it. 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:04.439 I mean, it's it's always seemed to talk about and 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:07.560 work on, and we have to improve. 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:09.439 After loss, like especially these last two. 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:11.880 Do you now going into the buy are you looking 1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:15.559 at all personnel for trades, for switches in house? 1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:17.800 I keep working with the players we got. That's that's 1:28:17.840 --> 1:28:18.360 what we're gonna do. 1:28:18.400 --> 1:28:20.360 We're gonna keep finding solutions with the guys we have, 1:28:20.400 --> 1:28:22.040 and if something else comes at us, so be it. 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:22.840 But that's. 1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:26.639 I'm gonna work with the players we got in here, 1:28:26.680 --> 1:28:29.280 and we're gonna keep finding solutions to what's going on 1:28:29.360 --> 1:28:29.599 right now. 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:30.599 Be tough here at home. 1:28:30.680 --> 1:28:32.680 Really, going back to the start of last year, does 1:28:32.680 --> 1:28:36.120 that add just a little more frustration to this whole thing? 1:28:36.200 --> 1:28:38.599 Big picture, just how tough. It's been to win here. 1:28:38.840 --> 1:28:39.679 Yeah, it's frustrating. 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:42.680 I mean, you use our fans, they show up for us, 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:44.360 and you got to give them something. 1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:45.439 You got to give them something. 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:49.120 Zach Taylor after the game yesterday and now as they 1:28:49.520 --> 1:28:53.360 hit the bye week, we've talked about the precarious situation 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:55.840 and they're in and if you're a he this is 1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:58.559 a challenge for Zach because you've got eight games left. 1:28:58.600 --> 1:29:00.559 It's it's one thing if you're down on the stretching, 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:02.240 you got a game just to finish out the season. 1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:07.120 There's eight games left. This is not certainly a throw 1:29:07.160 --> 1:29:10.440 in the towel point of the season. This is salvage 1:29:10.479 --> 1:29:15.480 this thing season and this is a very delicate situation 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:16.320 they're in right now. 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:20.120 It is it is. It's an important eight games for 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:23.160 the football future. Zach Taylor, y you know, I mean 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:28.920 and his coaching staff. I mean, I think now Zach 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:32.240 will find out what players think about him as a 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:35.599 head football coach, because now they're backs up against the wall, 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:38.879 and how they're gonna respond. They're gonna come out swinging. 1:29:39.240 --> 1:29:42.080 Are they just gonna say, you know it's over, We're done. 1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:45.760 Whatever happens happens. Let the organization do what they need 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:48.800 to do. Maybe we need a change. Who knows, Maybe 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.479 that's the best thing that could possibly happen. But I 1:29:51.560 --> 1:29:55.120 do know that Joe Burrow thinks the world is Zach Taylor. 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:59.519 And Joe Burrow carries a lot of weight. And Mike 1:29:59.560 --> 1:30:03.960 Brown has always liked offensive minded coaches like a Bill Walsh, 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.000 So he has a lot of respect for the football 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:08.880 intellect and IQ of Zach Taylor as well. And Zach's 1:30:08.880 --> 1:30:10.760 a hell of a football coach. I mean, the guy, 1:30:10.800 --> 1:30:14.160 grinds man. He puts in the time. He is a grinder. 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:18.360 He loves the game, understands the game. It's a football family. 1:30:18.439 --> 1:30:21.679 His brother Press was the pass game coordinator in yesterday's 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:25.439 football game. You know they grew up playing football against 1:30:25.520 --> 1:30:30.360 each other, being very competitive. I mean, it's it's it's 1:30:30.360 --> 1:30:32.599 a way of life for the Taylor family. There's no question. 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:37.360 Let's take a time out and continue. We'll get more 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:41.080 from Joe Flacco on yesterday's game and what is ahead 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:44.000 for this team through his eyes, He's Dave Lapham. I'm alliance, 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:46.920 but cantlister Bengals One and the Bengals Radio Network and 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:53.880 ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, building along on this 1:30:53.960 --> 1:30:56.120 Monday night at Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:58.920 in ESPN fifteen to thirty Lianes. But cauntlister Dave Lapham, 1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:02.479 let's get more to Joe Flaho's performance yesterday, and Dave 1:31:02.520 --> 1:31:05.400 amazing to think it was his one hundred and ninety 1:31:05.600 --> 1:31:09.040 ninth career start yesterday, and it was the first time 1:31:09.360 --> 1:31:11.800 he'd thrown for four hundred yards in a game. What 1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:14.519 a What a What an afternoon? What a performance? When 1:31:14.520 --> 1:31:17.120 you throw for force, you'd never thrown for four hundred 1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:21.839 he throws for four seventy yesterday. And as we said earlier, 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:24.000 all things considered, it's kind of hard to believe he 1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:24.720 did what he did. 1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:28.960 It really is. I Mean, all I can say is 1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:32.280 they got to keep Joe Flacco after this year. I 1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:35.960 know he's signed a one year deal, yes, but when 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:39.559 Joel Barrow is healthy and back as the Bengals starting quarterback, 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:42.240 and that's what's gonna happen. You know, Joe Flacco will 1:31:42.439 --> 1:31:45.519 you know, bow out and Joe Borrow will assume the 1:31:46.439 --> 1:31:50.240 duties and enrolled of the starting quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals, 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:54.080 But Joe Flacco, who's got a better number two than 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:56.200 that in the National Football League. I mean, that's a 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:58.200 heck of a one two punch. That's a heck of 1:31:58.240 --> 1:32:01.639 a of a of a dual at the quarterback position 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:04.760 in the National Football League. And one of them's got 1:32:04.760 --> 1:32:09.000 eighteen years experience and is over forty years old, and 1:32:09.080 --> 1:32:12.000 the other one is a guy that is an MVP candidate, 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:14.719 in my mind, the best in the National Football League. 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:18.839 So to have those two guys putting their heads together 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:22.920 on a weekly basis and making contributions to game planning, 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:26.559 I'm sure Zach Tayler would be very open to. Hey, Zach, 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:28.720 I really like that concept. I'm not too keen on 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.599 that one, but that one's really good. I don't think 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.759 there'd be a problem with that. I don't think Zach's 1:32:33.800 --> 1:32:37.439 that you go, you know, artistical. I think he's I 1:32:37.479 --> 1:32:40.439 think he's you know, down to earth in that regard. 1:32:40.640 --> 1:32:43.560 And Dan Pitcher as well. So I think there's a 1:32:43.600 --> 1:32:46.880 lot of good years ahead at the quarterback position with 1:32:46.960 --> 1:32:47.599 the two Joes. 1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:51.400 Here is more from Joe on his day and the 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:52.800 afternoon as a whole. 1:32:52.880 --> 1:32:56.880 Joe Flacco from our perspective, understanding that it's emotional after 1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:58.800 a loss like that, But it looks like some of 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:01.599 the offensive players are gaining some tension towards the deepens. 1:33:01.600 --> 1:33:02.760 I know you talked about it a little bit like that. 1:33:02.760 --> 1:33:04.559 But what do you do as a veteran? 1:33:05.840 --> 1:33:08.599 Well, I just be the same person every day, uh, 1:33:09.280 --> 1:33:12.080 and don't get frustrated from that. And I go to 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:14.680 those guys just like you do. And you don't necessarily 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:17.240 have to talk about that specifically, but you just have 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:20.639 good conversations with guys about, you know, doing good things 1:33:20.720 --> 1:33:23.000 and going to work and. 1:33:22.840 --> 1:33:25.160 Taking pride in what you do. And I think when 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:25.559 you do. 1:33:25.520 --> 1:33:27.679 Those things then you're not just then then you don't 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:30.679 have time to get mad at people that you can't 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:31.760 You shouldn't be getting. 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:33.679 Mad at you know, we got enough to worry about. 1:33:34.000 --> 1:33:35.720 Every one of us have enough to worry about on 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:38.720 our own plates that you can't be worrying about everybody else, 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:41.280 because then all of a sudden, once again, it's going 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:43.200 to be a tough eight weeks for us if we're 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:48.000 worrying about what other people are doing. I know, team 1:33:48.200 --> 1:33:51.000 is one, it's one team. In order to have that 1:33:51.080 --> 1:33:58.360 one team, you need to. 1:33:55.640 --> 1:33:59.840 Focus on yourself and do your job. And I get 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:00.839 I get it. 1:34:00.840 --> 1:34:05.599 It can get emotional, but you know there's times to 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:06.840 be emotional. 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:10.400 And and and show people that and. 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:16.080 But usually when those times are good in good things 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:21.240 and towards people you love. And I think if we're emotional, 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:23.800 then we should come at it with an angle of 1:34:24.400 --> 1:34:27.240 this is my brother, as opposed to the opposite of that. 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:32.240 I just think that's what good, hard working, tough people do. 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:33.599 They don't look at other people. 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:36.240 They look inward, and it doesn't matter what the situation is, 1:34:36.640 --> 1:34:37.400 they look inward. 1:34:37.840 --> 1:34:40.400 What was the connection with t so successful today? 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:41.320 He's really good. 1:34:42.280 --> 1:34:44.760 I hate to be so simple and have such a 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:47.000 bad answer, but I mean, did you see the catch 1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:48.599 you make? Let that go route for the first touchdown? 1:34:48.640 --> 1:34:50.360 I think it was the first touchdown was incredible. I 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:53.160 mean I was laughing. It was just stupid. It was 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:59.280 it was crazy, and I think everybody kind of realized it. 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:01.640 It was just I mean, I kind of I had 1:35:01.720 --> 1:35:04.000 one on one with them. I don't really know if 1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:05.800 I should have thrown it up or just come down, 1:35:05.840 --> 1:35:06.759 but I'm like, it's. 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:09.960 One on one. I'll put one up there. And as 1:35:10.000 --> 1:35:12.000 I let it go. I was kind of I honestly. 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:15.160 Was kind of like, ah, I don't know, and next thing, 1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:16.000 you know, was a touchdown. 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:19.240 So were the last twenty four hours like we're getting. 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:21.400 Prema get ready way. 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:25.640 I think Thursday was like Thursday was the thing. Like, 1:35:25.880 --> 1:35:28.439 you know, once I went out there. 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:32.640 And practiced on Thursday, I knew that I would be 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:34.559 ready to play on Sunday. So then it was just 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:37.880 kind of managing my shoulder throughout the week. 1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:39.720 And you know, I'm lucky. 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:41.639 I've played a lot of games, so I didn't feel 1:35:41.640 --> 1:35:42.880 like I had to go out there and get a 1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:45.679 ton of practice reps. And I probably would have felt 1:35:45.720 --> 1:35:48.200 like that anyway, but thankfully the coaching staff also felt 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:50.680 comfortable with me not you know, not getting a ton 1:35:50.680 --> 1:35:53.200 of practice reps. I think that's the biggest thing is 1:35:53.360 --> 1:35:56.400 it's going to be tough to practice, and as long 1:35:56.479 --> 1:36:00.280 as I know that I can get through Sundays, then 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:01.479 I feel good about it. 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:03.760 We'll get to talk to you again before y'all going by, 1:36:04.000 --> 1:36:06.360 what do you how, given how you can out sand 1:36:06.360 --> 1:36:07.679 and those pro social early. 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:09.120 What do you kind of need to be able to 1:36:09.120 --> 1:36:10.759 do and need to feel about. 1:36:10.600 --> 1:36:11.760 Playing when you get back from the buy. 1:36:12.439 --> 1:36:14.920 Yeah, well listen, I finished the game last week, I 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:16.680 played this week. I mean, it's not even in my 1:36:16.760 --> 1:36:19.880 mind that I I you know, I wouldn't be able 1:36:19.880 --> 1:36:22.120 to do something like that. So now it's just about 1:36:22.160 --> 1:36:27.360 getting rest and getting as healthy as possible. And obviously 1:36:27.400 --> 1:36:29.000 this week is you know, we got two weeks before 1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:31.040 we play again, so that's that's hopefully that helps. 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:34.760 Yeah, locked in, how important and how proud. 1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:38.639 Of are are you of those wide receivers and Chase 1:36:38.760 --> 1:36:42.920 Brown and those guys that caught that ball for you? 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:43.760 Yeah? 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:46.040 And extremely I mean I make sure I go to 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:48.320 everybody in that locker room after after a game and 1:36:48.760 --> 1:36:51.439 just tell them how much I appreciate them. 1:36:51.640 --> 1:36:53.160 You know, my job is not possible. 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:57.760 You know, Quarterbacks get so much publicity and credit for 1:36:57.800 --> 1:37:01.120 so many things, but you're really just out there dishing 1:37:01.160 --> 1:37:03.719 the ball around, and without the guys up front, first 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:05.960 of all, you know, you can't do that. And without 1:37:06.000 --> 1:37:08.880 guys out there making spectacular plays and taking little catches 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:10.800 and for touchdowns and all those things. 1:37:12.280 --> 1:37:13.840 You know they are. 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:17.000 I mean that's why, like people always ask me, like, 1:37:17.000 --> 1:37:18.479 who'd you like when you were growing up? I mean, 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:21.320 I always liked receivers and running backs because those are 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:23.479 the guys that are out there like making the plays. 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:26.559 And now that I've gotten to play, now you have 1:37:26.600 --> 1:37:30.200 a true, just a true appreciation for the guys up front. 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:32.400 Like that's really where the game is won and lost. 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:33.280 Is right there up front. 1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:36.719 So I just view myself as somebody that's lucky enough 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:39.439 to kind of be the guy that gets to play 1:37:39.439 --> 1:37:42.519 with some of these guys. And so yeah, every time 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:44.600 I get to play with these guys, I know what 1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:47.599 everybody's giving weekend and week out and laying it all 1:37:47.640 --> 1:37:49.559 out there, so you appreciate being with every single one 1:37:49.600 --> 1:37:49.880 of them. 1:37:50.000 --> 1:37:53.360 Dave one of the one quote I love from Joe Flacco, 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:56.920 and he was asked about a stage in the season 1:37:56.960 --> 1:37:59.880 where maybe some friction starts or some cracks with the 1:38:00.080 --> 1:38:02.920 offense and defense and one team doing their job and 1:38:02.960 --> 1:38:04.920 the other maybe not doing it as well, and Joe 1:38:04.960 --> 1:38:08.240 Flacco said, you have to have good conversations with guys 1:38:08.280 --> 1:38:10.679 about going to work and taking pride in what you do. 1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:13.160 I think when you do those things, you don't have 1:38:13.240 --> 1:38:15.439 time to get mad at people that you shouldn't be 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:18.120 getting mad at. Every one of US has enough to 1:38:18.160 --> 1:38:20.640 worry about on our own plates that you can't be 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:24.719 worrying about everybody else. Team is one, it's one team. 1:38:24.960 --> 1:38:27.000 In order to have that one team, you need to 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:30.200 focus on yourself and do your job. I just think 1:38:30.280 --> 1:38:34.680 that's what's good, hard working and tough people do. That 1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:38.120 is a very powerful statement from a very wise individual. 1:38:38.640 --> 1:38:41.559 If I'm Joe Flacco's parents, I'm listening to that and 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:45.519 I'm going, yep, I raise my kid, right. I mean, 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:49.200 he understands, he understands what it takes. Not just football. 1:38:49.240 --> 1:38:51.680 I wish, you know, more people had that mindset, that 1:38:51.720 --> 1:38:54.960 attitude about their job and their work on a day 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:57.040 to day basis. You know, yep, I mean the United 1:38:57.080 --> 1:38:59.200 States of America may even be more productive. It's a 1:38:59.200 --> 1:39:03.400 world power, but it might even be more productive. Joe 1:39:03.479 --> 1:39:07.240 is very very intelligent in conversations with him, not just 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:10.160 from a football standpoint, but across the board. I mean, 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:13.040 pick a subject, Joe Burrow has an opinion and and 1:39:13.040 --> 1:39:15.000 and can do some commentary on it. 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:16.280 So I. 1:39:18.000 --> 1:39:21.719 I really I think he's been a big, big addition, 1:39:22.120 --> 1:39:24.160 not just the way he plays the game with that 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:27.080 powerful throwing arm, but the way he handles himself the 1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:29.840 way he comports himself on the football field, in the 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:33.080 locker room, out in the community. Uh, he's a He's 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:37.919 definitely a big, big plus in the Bengals organization. 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:40.000 Needed to take the time out when we come back, 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.320 David I thought, well, we've got some time here in 1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:45.439 the final half hour. It would be only fitting if 1:39:45.479 --> 1:39:48.160 we talked about sadly the passing of our our dear 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:51.520 friend Bob Trump and from a couple of different standpoints, 1:39:51.600 --> 1:39:54.600 Bob Trumpey the player and Bob Trumpy the broadcaster, in 1:39:54.640 --> 1:39:56.080 a couple of segments. Can we do that? As we 1:39:56.120 --> 1:39:58.839 can tell you is Dave Lapham. I'm Lance, but Cantlester. 1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:02.080 It's Bengals on in the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:09.880 fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Hey, we keep moving right 1:40:09.880 --> 1:40:11.960 along on this Monday night a Bengals line. We're on 1:40:12.000 --> 1:40:15.320 the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:18.040 And Lance and Bengals fans make sure to catch me 1:40:18.080 --> 1:40:20.880 and Dan Hoard every Wednesday this season for Bengals Game 1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:23.479 Plan presented by Bud Light on the air from six 1:40:23.520 --> 1:40:26.560 to eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:40:26.360 --> 1:40:30.640 Dave the sad news yesterday, and it broke as the 1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:34.200 afternoon was beginning to unfold for Bengals football. Was the 1:40:34.200 --> 1:40:38.479 passing of Bengals legend, a broadcasting legend. I always called 1:40:38.520 --> 1:40:41.400 him the godfather of sports talk, Bob trump He sadly 1:40:41.439 --> 1:40:44.920 passing away at the age of eighty years old, friend 1:40:44.960 --> 1:40:48.280 of both of ours, teammate of yours, and meant the 1:40:48.320 --> 1:40:51.840 world to I think both of us. And I thought 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:54.519 we could break up a couple of segments and talk 1:40:54.600 --> 1:40:57.200 about Trumpet the player in one segment, and Trumpet the 1:40:57.240 --> 1:41:01.599 broadcaster and the other. And just man in watching the 1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:05.280 highlights of him the football player, every time, I was 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:08.800 struck by the same thing. Just his body is a 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:12.519 tight end, and the wide shoulders and that gallop after 1:41:12.600 --> 1:41:15.479 catching the ball. I can't imagine what he was like 1:41:15.560 --> 1:41:18.160 for for a great cooker Ken Anderson to throw the 1:41:18.160 --> 1:41:21.880 football too, and the way he changed that offense with 1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:23.200 what he could do as a tight end. 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:27.559 Yeah, I mean he was a generational player, he really was. 1:41:27.960 --> 1:41:31.879 He changed the game of football for the tight end position. 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.320 I mean he is. I mean there have been great 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:37.160 tight ends, you know John Mackie's and tight ends like 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:41.320 that that have have definitely said changed the world in 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:43.479 terms of how do you defend these guys They're so 1:41:43.600 --> 1:41:46.400 big and they're so fast and so athletical. Bob Trump, 1:41:46.479 --> 1:41:48.880 he was right there, right there with the greatest of 1:41:48.920 --> 1:41:51.920 all time. I think Bob Trump, he deserves to be, 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:55.519 you know, honored in that in that same breath as 1:41:55.560 --> 1:41:58.439 a lot of those guys coat hanger shoulders. You talked 1:41:58.439 --> 1:42:00.800 about the broad shoulders. I mean, I'm not kidding. I 1:42:00.800 --> 1:42:02.920 looked at that dude and I'm like, Holy macro, look 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:06.880 at how wide that dude's shoulders are. Man, And the 1:42:06.920 --> 1:42:08.880 Good Lord blessed him. The Good Lord reached down and 1:42:09.120 --> 1:42:11.080 you know, tapped him on the head and said, this 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:12.840 is this is the way you're going to be built, 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:15.400 you know. And he was trim wasted, you know, and 1:42:15.400 --> 1:42:19.160 and long legs, and he could run I'd say sub 1:42:19.200 --> 1:42:21.960 four five four or five worst case scenario low four 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:26.320 fives and and many they'd isolate him with that size 1:42:26.320 --> 1:42:28.800 speed ratio. He had one of the greatest size speed 1:42:28.920 --> 1:42:32.040 ratios I think I've ever seen. And as long as 1:42:32.040 --> 1:42:34.639 I played football, he was in the top three, if 1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:38.360 not the best, in terms of size speed ratio. Long legs, 1:42:38.760 --> 1:42:42.280 long arms, you know, soft hand, caught the football very 1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:47.000 very effortlessly, and very intelligent. You know, ran tremendous routes. 1:42:47.280 --> 1:42:49.840 He'd read coverages, Bill Walsh a lot. He wanted a 1:42:50.000 --> 1:42:52.880 quarterback and and tight end and receivers to be on 1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:55.559 the same page as the quarterback on pre snap looks 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:58.120 of coverages. And Bob Trump he was as good as 1:42:58.120 --> 1:43:00.479 there was in that area. And that trans related to 1:43:00.520 --> 1:43:03.679 his career as a broadcaster. There's nothing that Bob Trump 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:05.880 he didn't see, you know. I mean, he was very 1:43:05.880 --> 1:43:08.800 astute and understood the game of football as well as 1:43:08.840 --> 1:43:09.559 anybody ever. 1:43:09.439 --> 1:43:12.439 Did well in speaking of seeing things, we marvel about 1:43:12.840 --> 1:43:15.759 Paul Brown's eye for talent. We talked about Lamar Parrish 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:18.599 last week, taking him out of a small school. But 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:21.400 Bob started that Illinois, wound up at Utah, was a 1:43:21.439 --> 1:43:25.160 twelfth round pick out of Utah. But when Paul and 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.160 Bill Walsh and Tiger Johnson got a hold of him, 1:43:28.160 --> 1:43:31.120 and what I mean, he in nineteen sixty nine, I 1:43:31.120 --> 1:43:33.559 don't know if people fully comprehend and appreciate this. In 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:37.559 nineteen sixty nine, Bob Trumpy averaged twenty two point six 1:43:37.640 --> 1:43:40.880 yards a catch. That's twenty two point six yards of 1:43:41.000 --> 1:43:43.839 catches a tight end. For his career, he averaged fifteen 1:43:43.920 --> 1:43:46.000 point four yards of catch. That's incredible. 1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:49.599 It is it is. I mean that's better than wide 1:43:49.640 --> 1:43:52.960 receivers of his era in terms of stretching the football field. 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:56.240 And Paul Brown very wise, man, you know. I mean 1:43:56.280 --> 1:43:59.800 he saw Bob Trumpy when they went to scout him, 1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:04.479 and Mike was involved with that decision making process as well. 1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:06.719 They went out to Utah. He was a good play 1:44:06.760 --> 1:44:09.000 He was a star player on the basketball team at 1:44:09.080 --> 1:44:13.000 Utah and one of the leading rebounders. Could score, I mean, 1:44:13.080 --> 1:44:15.559 played Bengal basketball, you know where you go around in 1:44:15.600 --> 1:44:19.080 the office storming games. Yeah, and go play faculty, you know, 1:44:19.600 --> 1:44:23.200 members of schools for fundraisers and everything. And Trump could play. Man. 1:44:23.600 --> 1:44:25.679 He was physical, He played hard. He was a really 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:29.280 good basketball player, and it translated to his game on 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:31.320 the football field as a tight end. I mean, he 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:36.360 was he was a prototype. He teams were looking for 1:44:36.400 --> 1:44:38.840 the next Bob Trumpy and that was the way it 1:44:38.920 --> 1:44:40.000 was for a number of years. 1:44:40.040 --> 1:44:42.679 And I thought Kenny Anderson put it perfectly this morning. 1:44:42.680 --> 1:44:48.200 He tweeted, simply, Bob Trumpy was Gronk before Gronk, and 1:44:48.280 --> 1:44:50.639 I thought that was wow. That is very well said, 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:53.519 putting into context what his skills were. For people today 1:44:53.520 --> 1:44:56.160 who think of Rob Gronkowski, that was Bob Trumpy. 1:44:56.320 --> 1:44:59.120 Agreed, agreed, And you know, everybody looks at Gronk and like, 1:44:59.320 --> 1:45:02.040 you know, he's a little Dodo bird A. Gronk has 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:06.160 got tremendous football IQ. Tom Brady will talk about it, 1:45:06.280 --> 1:45:09.000 how smart Gronk is and the adjustments to Gronk would 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:12.680 suggest to Bill Belichick and to Tom Brady. Trumpy was 1:45:12.720 --> 1:45:14.479 the same way Trump. He had come off the field 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:18.160 and say to Kenny Anderson and you know, and Paul 1:45:18.240 --> 1:45:21.280 Brown and Bill Walsh's look, they're doing this. I think 1:45:21.320 --> 1:45:23.280 if we put me in motion and change the strength 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:25.559 of the formation, You're not gonna adapt quickly enough. I'm 1:45:25.560 --> 1:45:27.479 gonna get off the line of scrimmage, of free release. 1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:31.639 I'm gonna hurt people down the football field. And they agree, 1:45:32.120 --> 1:45:34.519 we'd do it. And Trump knew what he was talking about. Man, 1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:35.679 there'd always be a big play. 1:45:36.120 --> 1:45:38.040 Let's take a time out of come back. Let's talk 1:45:38.080 --> 1:45:42.840 about Bob Trumpy, the broadcaster from NBC to Sports Talk 1:45:42.960 --> 1:45:45.920 at all that came with it. Holy cow man. I 1:45:45.960 --> 1:45:47.840 don't know if we have enough time to cover everything 1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:50.920 he did. From a broadcasting side, boyd we'll get into 1:45:50.920 --> 1:45:53.559 it next. He's Dave Lappam my alliance, Bacalister. It's Bengals 1:45:53.560 --> 1:45:56.599 Line on the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty 1:45:56.640 --> 1:46:03.080 Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back to Bengals Line. And on 1:46:03.200 --> 1:46:06.880 Monday night it's on the Bengals Radio Network. It's on 1:46:07.240 --> 1:46:09.920 ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Lance but Calischer hanging out with 1:46:10.040 --> 1:46:10.759 Dave Leapham. 1:46:10.920 --> 1:46:13.760 Yes, Sir Lanceon, really enjoying hanging out with my man, 1:46:13.840 --> 1:46:18.320 Lance mccowiston. On Friday nights, Bengals Stripes Tour presented by 1:46:18.360 --> 1:46:21.759 a how Kat is back for all locations this season. 1:46:21.760 --> 1:46:23.800 Go to Bengals dot com slash community. 1:46:24.040 --> 1:46:28.479 We continue remembering Bob Trump, he who sadly passed away yesterday, 1:46:28.479 --> 1:46:33.080 and from a broadcasting standpoint, I always called him, with 1:46:33.120 --> 1:46:36.599 great reverence, the godfather of sports talk because he he 1:46:36.680 --> 1:46:39.080 created it. I'll never forget a conversation I had with 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:41.840 him where he had heard Bill Russell doing sports talk 1:46:41.920 --> 1:46:47.200 radio in LA in Boston and thought, man, would it 1:46:47.280 --> 1:46:49.760 work here could I do it here? And from that 1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:55.720 grew the sports talk and just his his presence on 1:46:55.800 --> 1:46:59.400 the radio and that voice there was just there was 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:02.000 no one like him, there's been There was no one 1:47:02.120 --> 1:47:04.080 like him before, There's been no one like him since. 1:47:04.479 --> 1:47:08.160 He just had a command. When you tuned into him, 1:47:08.720 --> 1:47:12.680 it just felt and sounded big, like he had control 1:47:12.720 --> 1:47:15.719 of everything. And as I always say, as a kid 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:18.080 in an era where there were no podcast or anything, 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:20.640 if you wanted the gospel of sports talk, what was 1:47:20.680 --> 1:47:23.160 going on in Cincinnati, you turned on your radio at 1:47:23.200 --> 1:47:26.640 six o'clock and you just waited for Bob Trumpy to 1:47:26.760 --> 1:47:29.120 say something. And you knew if you wanted to know 1:47:29.160 --> 1:47:31.840 how to feel about something or what the reaction was 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:34.360 to something, you turned and said, what does Bob have 1:47:34.479 --> 1:47:36.920 to say? And Bob made sure that you knew he 1:47:37.080 --> 1:47:39.200 was right, I mean all the time about whatever. 1:47:39.240 --> 1:47:39.880 He was true. 1:47:39.960 --> 1:47:42.240 But that was part of the charm of Bob Trumpy. 1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:44.400 You had your opinion and you were wrong. He had 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:46.479 hit his opinion and he was right. But it was 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:49.400 just when he said it, there was just something to it, 1:47:50.040 --> 1:47:51.760 magical and powerful to it. 1:47:52.160 --> 1:47:54.040 That's a great way to put it. Last, I mean 1:47:54.479 --> 1:47:56.519 you know, you were around Trump for a lot of years. 1:47:56.520 --> 1:47:59.720 You know him as well as anyone. I when I 1:48:00.240 --> 1:48:03.160 heard him talk when I got drafted and came into 1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:07.720 the the locker room for basically mini camp is what 1:48:07.760 --> 1:48:10.759 it was back in the day in the in the 1:48:10.800 --> 1:48:13.960 mid seventies. I heard this voice and I tried, that's 1:48:14.000 --> 1:48:17.040 the voice of God. What what is going on? Am 1:48:17.080 --> 1:48:20.960 I in football Heaven? What is the voice of God 1:48:21.000 --> 1:48:24.720 doing here in the city of Cincinnati? And uh? And 1:48:24.800 --> 1:48:28.559 it was Bob Trumpy And this guy, like you said, Lance, 1:48:28.800 --> 1:48:33.200 for years and years the he covered the big events, 1:48:33.240 --> 1:48:36.479 the Olympics, super Bowls, you know, Trump, he had all 1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:38.040 that on his resume. I mean for a guy. 1:48:38.280 --> 1:48:42.000 Super Bowls, yeah, three Olympics, crazy, three Ryder Cups. 1:48:42.720 --> 1:48:45.639 Yeah, I mean, come on, now we're talking horse racing. Trump. 1:48:46.920 --> 1:48:50.719 He but he could make anything exciting with that voice, 1:48:51.040 --> 1:48:53.240 you know, and he and he'd raised it, he'd uh. 1:48:53.600 --> 1:48:57.479 He had tremendous cadence and voice inflection, you know, and 1:48:57.520 --> 1:48:59.960 he knew how to naturally, knew how to handle all 1:49:00.160 --> 1:49:03.719 of that. He was something special. There's no question. I mean, 1:49:04.240 --> 1:49:08.720 the broadcast world lost a legend. And I'm serious. He 1:49:09.040 --> 1:49:13.759 should be there should be an award given to NFL 1:49:13.960 --> 1:49:18.519 broadcasters on NBC, CBS, Fox, whatever, the Bob Trump Award, 1:49:18.640 --> 1:49:21.040 you know, for the best analyst played by play guys 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:25.120 aren't eligible, sorry, but for the best analyst of the year, 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:28.479 and it would be an annual thing, the Bob Trump Award. Now, 1:49:28.600 --> 1:49:34.200 I'll I'll go to the grave trying to get that done. 1:49:34.320 --> 1:49:37.280 He man, when when you tuned into NBC and it 1:49:37.360 --> 1:49:39.639 was the NFL with him, or whether it was Don Krickey 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:44.160 or Dick Enberg or Charlie Jones, just just the way 1:49:44.240 --> 1:49:49.080 in and he had you know, clearly he had his 1:49:49.240 --> 1:49:51.960 thoughts on former players versus media, and what meat he 1:49:52.040 --> 1:49:54.760 knew versus what a former player. He put so much 1:49:54.840 --> 1:49:58.480 effort into his analysis. It wasn't he had strong opinions, 1:49:58.479 --> 1:50:03.040 but it was always backed by something he worked on 1:50:03.200 --> 1:50:06.920 the preparation for the broadcast. That's what I had such 1:50:06.920 --> 1:50:09.559 an appreciation for. It was strong and it was powerful, 1:50:09.600 --> 1:50:12.519 but it was backed by his experience and what he 1:50:12.560 --> 1:50:14.120 put into a broadcast. 1:50:13.680 --> 1:50:16.400 Right on Lance. And I talked to many assistant coaches 1:50:16.439 --> 1:50:18.639 over the years that said, man, Trump wore me out. 1:50:19.080 --> 1:50:22.160 All he would do. I need another tape, need another game. 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:24.640 I think I feel pretty good about it. But you know, 1:50:24.640 --> 1:50:26.519 I just I just want to confirm a couple of things. 1:50:26.560 --> 1:50:28.160 I just want to make sure I'm right on a 1:50:28.200 --> 1:50:30.120 couple of things that you guys do for masonally and 1:50:30.160 --> 1:50:34.439 why you do it, and and the production meetings. Coaches 1:50:34.680 --> 1:50:38.080 loved going to production meetings with you know, Krickie or 1:50:38.320 --> 1:50:41.920 Edinburgh and Bob Trumpy because they knew that he was prepared, 1:50:41.960 --> 1:50:43.840 they knew he had done that, they knew he'd done 1:50:43.840 --> 1:50:46.880 his homework before showing up. And instead of like, hey, 1:50:47.120 --> 1:50:49.120 give me something I can use in the game, you know, 1:50:49.200 --> 1:50:52.080 do my job for me. Trumpy was never about that. 1:50:52.360 --> 1:50:55.000 It was like, hey, I'm a big boy, I'm getting 1:50:55.000 --> 1:50:57.400 paid handsomely. I can do this for myself. 1:50:57.720 --> 1:51:01.519 And he said an example he especially here and with 1:51:01.600 --> 1:51:05.479 this franchise. He I would think the the pioneer aspect 1:51:05.479 --> 1:51:09.000 of former player into broadcasting in doors and opportunities opened that. 1:51:09.240 --> 1:51:12.200 I mean, think about it. You and Chris Collinsworth and Salmon, 1:51:12.240 --> 1:51:16.160 Willcotts and Boomeri Siasen and Sam Weish to David Pollock, 1:51:16.200 --> 1:51:20.360 to others, Tequio Spikes, Andre Andrew Hawkins, so many former 1:51:20.400 --> 1:51:23.400 Bengals came through playing into broadcasting. 1:51:23.520 --> 1:51:27.479 Yeah, that's very true. And you know it was like, hey, man, 1:51:27.520 --> 1:51:29.680 if Trump can do it. He was a trailblazer. He 1:51:29.760 --> 1:51:31.720 was the Daniel Boone. You know, he was the guy 1:51:31.760 --> 1:51:34.880 that paved the way for everybody else to get an opportunity. 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:37.240 And uh, and you wanted to do well because you 1:51:37.320 --> 1:51:41.280 knew Trumpy had done extraordinarily. Well, I'll tell you what 1:51:41.880 --> 1:51:44.439 he made. He left his mark, There's no question about that. 1:51:44.520 --> 1:51:47.160 And it was a it was a very very positive 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:50.559 mark on the game of football as a player and 1:51:50.640 --> 1:51:53.439 as a as a broadcaster. And he was more than 1:51:53.520 --> 1:51:57.720 solid at both. I mean Hall of Fame. Uh, borderline 1:51:57.960 --> 1:51:58.719 efforts in both. 1:51:58.760 --> 1:52:00.360 And I'll tell you what when when he came to 1:52:00.360 --> 1:52:03.400 sports talk and it's I've talked about it all the time. 1:52:03.439 --> 1:52:05.680 I grew up listening to him. I call him once 1:52:05.720 --> 1:52:07.600 a week. I'd arguing with him as a as a 1:52:07.640 --> 1:52:09.800 young kid. He'd hang up on me. We got a 1:52:09.840 --> 1:52:12.760 new an argument up Buddy Bell and Wayne Crenchickey one time, 1:52:12.840 --> 1:52:15.760 and I'm thinking him arguing Wayne Crenchikey and Buddy Bell 1:52:15.840 --> 1:52:18.880 with Bob Trumpia. I called him from a vague family vacation. 1:52:19.000 --> 1:52:20.679 One time I was like fourteen years old. I called 1:52:20.720 --> 1:52:23.800 from Cape Cod. Oh, They'll never forget him saying, why 1:52:23.880 --> 1:52:26.200 are you calling from Cape Cod? I want to talk 1:52:26.200 --> 1:52:29.160 about the Reds. But and when when I had a 1:52:29.240 --> 1:52:31.080 chance to to then work with him and do the 1:52:31.080 --> 1:52:33.519 Friday Bengals pep rally and we did a roundtable show 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:36.120 walk here on Thursday nights with him. But I used 1:52:36.120 --> 1:52:39.600 to always marvel. He would boy, we butted heads and 1:52:39.920 --> 1:52:42.040 clash it and I'd say something and he'd look at 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:44.960 me and peer at me over those glasses and he'd say, 1:52:45.200 --> 1:52:49.160 you've clearly never played the game before. I would just 1:52:49.240 --> 1:52:51.840 know how to get going. And I always had a way. 1:52:52.240 --> 1:52:54.640 I'd learned certain things that would push his buttons. And 1:52:54.680 --> 1:52:57.040 I'd say, like on a daylight today, where I'd want 1:52:57.080 --> 1:52:59.439 a statement made by the organization, they need to do something. 1:52:59.439 --> 1:53:01.479 They need to make statement. And he looked at me 1:53:01.520 --> 1:53:04.200 and say statement, and he do that big booming laugh. 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:08.120 You and your statements, You just always want to make statements. 1:53:08.280 --> 1:53:11.200 I was like, that was such Bob Trump. I used 1:53:11.240 --> 1:53:13.320 to drive him nuts with that. He drive me nuts 1:53:13.320 --> 1:53:13.800 with things. 1:53:13.840 --> 1:53:17.080 And I'll tell you he was he was great with 1:53:17.200 --> 1:53:20.400 if he was on the losing end or realized he was, 1:53:20.479 --> 1:53:23.200 it was going downhill for him. From an argument standpoint. 1:53:23.680 --> 1:53:26.479 You never played the game, That's what That was his 1:53:26.600 --> 1:53:29.559 catch all. You know, that was the that was the 1:53:29.600 --> 1:53:33.800 saving the savingology right there. Have you played the game? 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:36.200 You never played the game. And he got that from 1:53:36.280 --> 1:53:38.639 Paul Brown. He heard Paul Brown say that many times 1:53:38.640 --> 1:53:42.440 to people in the media. You think you know everything 1:53:43.000 --> 1:53:46.599 about football, son, you've never played the game. 1:53:47.160 --> 1:53:50.439 And the beauty and the and the power of Trump. 1:53:50.520 --> 1:53:54.120 Only Bob Trumpy could one call up Bob Knight and say, yeah, 1:53:54.360 --> 1:53:56.439 let's come on you, hey, come on Sports Talk. I 1:53:56.479 --> 1:53:59.800 spend an hour with Bob Knight on Sports Talk and 1:54:00.200 --> 1:54:03.080 side they were gonna blow out all the commercials. Play 1:54:03.120 --> 1:54:04.840 none of the commercials because I'm going to keep the 1:54:04.920 --> 1:54:07.920 General for the entire hour. Only Bob Trump he would 1:54:07.960 --> 1:54:10.200 have the power to say, I'm talking with the General 1:54:10.240 --> 1:54:13.000 for an hour and just I'm sure Doug Kidd or 1:54:13.000 --> 1:54:15.360 whoever was like, you know, break take time out, and 1:54:15.840 --> 1:54:19.280 just kept talking, kept talking, kept talking. No commercials figured 1:54:19.320 --> 1:54:21.360 out later, I've got the general lie and then. 1:54:21.280 --> 1:54:22.920 The guys would have to figure it out later. The 1:54:23.240 --> 1:54:26.519 sales managers and to make good commercials, you know. And man, 1:54:26.560 --> 1:54:28.519 what kind of damage would Trump do this week? 1:54:28.560 --> 1:54:28.760 You know? 1:54:29.400 --> 1:54:32.360 Or remember he would he would make the hot fudge 1:54:32.400 --> 1:54:35.400 Sunday bets with callers and then pay it off at 1:54:35.400 --> 1:54:39.880 the UDF down below and Mount Adams across the street. Absolutely, 1:54:40.040 --> 1:54:42.560 I will never forget the year in the NCAA tournament, 1:54:42.640 --> 1:54:45.120 he swore up and down that Houston would never lose 1:54:45.160 --> 1:54:48.200 to North Carolina State. He said, North Carolina State shouldn't 1:54:48.200 --> 1:54:49.520 even get on the bus and go to the game 1:54:49.560 --> 1:54:52.080 because Houston's gonna beat him in North Carolina State wins. 1:54:52.080 --> 1:54:54.520 And he had to pay off so many bets for that, 1:54:54.640 --> 1:54:57.560 and it was just he was one of a kind. 1:54:57.640 --> 1:54:59.880 He was absolutely one of a kind. 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:03.520 Broke them all, There's no question about it. And my 1:55:03.600 --> 1:55:07.040 heart goes out to Pat the sons because and Jason, 1:55:07.560 --> 1:55:12.880 they lost, They lost a husband, father, great man, I'm 1:55:12.960 --> 1:55:16.120 telling you, and and literally literally Lance, I feel like 1:55:16.200 --> 1:55:21.560 this guy, tremendous player, tremendous broadcasters, should be in the 1:55:21.600 --> 1:55:22.080 Hall of Fame. 1:55:22.240 --> 1:55:25.880 Yeah, you know, And a final thought, just from my standpoint, 1:55:25.960 --> 1:55:29.120 and he is. He's remembered as somebody who could be 1:55:29.240 --> 1:55:32.480 gruff and rough, and they had that booming voice. But 1:55:32.680 --> 1:55:37.600 to me and the defining moment of the relationship I 1:55:37.640 --> 1:55:39.480 had with Bob Trump, he had nothing to do with 1:55:40.080 --> 1:55:43.840 a show. When when my son Casey was diagnosed with leukemia, 1:55:44.320 --> 1:55:47.120 Bob Trumpy was the very first phone call I got. 1:55:47.280 --> 1:55:50.960 That's amazing and said whatever you need, whenever you needed 1:55:51.360 --> 1:55:54.680 and said I will be a bone marrow donor if 1:55:54.720 --> 1:55:57.320 you need one, and I will. I will never forget 1:55:57.320 --> 1:55:59.160 that moment in my life and what it meant to 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:02.800 our face and that to me, For all the tales 1:56:02.840 --> 1:56:05.040 I can tell of Bob Trumpy, that is the one 1:56:05.040 --> 1:56:07.440 that means the most of it, and that's him. 1:56:07.480 --> 1:56:07.920 Do a tea. 1:56:08.000 --> 1:56:10.960 When I think, when I think of Bob Trumpy on 1:56:11.040 --> 1:56:15.400 his obituary, it should say football and family. Yep, that's 1:56:15.440 --> 1:56:18.400 what he was about. He was about football, playing the game, 1:56:18.680 --> 1:56:21.720 and about his football family, and then also about his 1:56:21.760 --> 1:56:25.320 football family, you know, off the football field, his true family, 1:56:25.640 --> 1:56:29.080 his wife, Pat, his sons and everything we already talked about. 1:56:29.160 --> 1:56:32.480 He was unique. One on one. They broke the mold man. 1:56:32.480 --> 1:56:35.000 No doubt about it. We'll take our final time out, 1:56:35.000 --> 1:56:37.240 come back, wrap things up. Bengals line on the Bengals 1:56:37.360 --> 1:56:45.680 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Ut 1:56:45.880 --> 1:56:48.480 down the stretch, we go about to put the Rats 1:56:48.520 --> 1:56:51.080 on another Monday night of Bengals line on the Bengals 1:56:51.240 --> 1:56:54.640 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:56:54.560 --> 1:56:57.240 And Lance Paikur is proud to be the official HR 1:56:57.360 --> 1:56:59.839 software provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:02.120 Right, we wrap it up the bye next week, no 1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:04.800 show next week, and man, I go back to what 1:57:04.840 --> 1:57:08.440 we said off the top, Imagine the difference had they 1:57:08.800 --> 1:57:12.680 had they won yesterday in dramatic fashion, two touchdowns in 1:57:12.720 --> 1:57:15.080 the final forty nine minutes, get the wind pulled a 1:57:15.120 --> 1:57:17.160 four and five, You get to hit the buy and 1:57:17.240 --> 1:57:21.040 relax on that joy and belief that you've created with 1:57:21.080 --> 1:57:24.440 the win. And now you gotta sit on yesterday's loss. 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:27.120 You got the trade deadline coming up. There's uncertainty in 1:57:27.160 --> 1:57:30.360 so many places right, Just such a change in emotions 1:57:30.400 --> 1:57:31.240 after yesterday. 1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:34.200 Man, you know, it's like you go into a into 1:57:34.240 --> 1:57:37.280 a bye week and there's a cloud hanging over your 1:57:37.280 --> 1:57:40.040 head following you into that bye week. You know, it's 1:57:40.120 --> 1:57:43.400 like it could have been a sunny sunny time, could 1:57:43.440 --> 1:57:46.480 have been joined the beach. You know, go lay out 1:57:46.640 --> 1:57:49.560 layout on the beach during the bye week literally but 1:57:50.040 --> 1:57:52.680 not to be so. Now you've got to figure out 1:57:52.720 --> 1:57:55.160 a way to turn the worm. And it's going to 1:57:55.240 --> 1:58:00.120 turn quickly because, quite honestly, on a week by week basis, 1:58:00.160 --> 1:58:04.120 these games melt away. You're the sand runs out of 1:58:04.160 --> 1:58:09.120 the uh, out of the whatever. The class there, thank you, sir, 1:58:09.480 --> 1:58:12.240 the hour glass and and you're running out of time 1:58:12.760 --> 1:58:16.600 and it's it's a you can't panic. You got to 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:18.440 make sure you take care of business and you and 1:58:18.480 --> 1:58:20.200 you do it the right way, but you got to 1:58:20.240 --> 1:58:20.920 do it quickly. 1:58:21.040 --> 1:58:22.360 And it doesn't get any easier. 1:58:22.360 --> 1:58:22.480 Man. 1:58:22.520 --> 1:58:25.320 You got Steelers still. Hey, you got the Patriots, who 1:58:25.320 --> 1:58:27.920 are better than everybody, but you got the Ravens twice. 1:58:27.960 --> 1:58:30.440 You got Buffalo, oh man. 1:58:30.440 --> 1:58:34.280 And not just great players, but the coaches. I mean, 1:58:34.360 --> 1:58:36.839 think of the coaches, the head coaches and the coaching 1:58:36.880 --> 1:58:39.400 staffs on those on those football teams. You know, you 1:58:39.480 --> 1:58:41.560 got Tom and you have Rabel, I mean, you get 1:58:41.560 --> 1:58:45.440 you got guys that are hard nosed, get after a 1:58:45.560 --> 1:58:50.120 type of football people. You know, they were players themselves 1:58:50.640 --> 1:58:52.720 and uh and then when they were done playing, wanted 1:58:52.720 --> 1:58:55.280 to commit their rest of their lives to to the 1:58:55.280 --> 1:58:58.280 coaching profession and their working lives. So I'll tell you 1:58:58.320 --> 1:59:01.080 what not gonna be an easy task, But that's life 1:59:01.080 --> 1:59:03.720 from the National Football League. Man. If you're not ready 1:59:03.760 --> 1:59:06.240 to accept the challenge, you shouldn't be here, you know. 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:09.560 Final thought, As you were mentioning the sand and searching 1:59:09.560 --> 1:59:11.440 for the word, I flashed, of all things to the 1:59:11.480 --> 1:59:14.120 soap opera. What's the soap opera with the hour glass? 1:59:14.160 --> 1:59:15.040 Is the days of our lives? 1:59:15.600 --> 1:59:16.320 World turns? 1:59:16.520 --> 1:59:19.280 What are those two look at me? Going to soap 1:59:19.280 --> 1:59:21.280 operas to come up with the words. I just remember 1:59:21.320 --> 1:59:23.840 the open of that soap opera was like like sand 1:59:23.920 --> 1:59:26.200 through the hour the sand of our lives through the 1:59:26.240 --> 1:59:28.760 hour glass or whatever that line was from the soap opera. 1:59:28.880 --> 1:59:33.920 And we're officially done. 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:33.600 And totally done. 1:59:33.720 --> 1:59:36.760 He's Dave Blapam lights Bacallister. It's Bengals Line on the 1:59:36.800 --> 1:59:40.880 Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 1:59:41.400 --> 1:59:45.200 This was Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay Corps. 1:59:45.360 --> 1:59:48.240 Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 1:59:48.280 --> 1:59:50.240 provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 1:59:50.480 --> 1:59:51.120 Ulti Viper. 1:59:51.400 --> 1:59:54.600 Ulti Viper the official Wi Fi and Internet provider of 1:59:54.680 --> 1:59:59.760 US Cincinnati Bengals. 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