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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to it. Welcome in Arnel Carrier

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Speaker 3: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Hey, I'm Lance McLeister.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for making your way here. Stick around. We've got

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Speaker 3: some things to get to. Let me get the headlines

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Speaker 3: so we can get going. We start with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: They land Vikings defensive tackle Jonathan Allen on a two year,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight million dollar deal today. According to multiple reports,

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Speaker 3: he's six three, three hundred pounds thirty one years old,

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Speaker 3: two time Pro bowler at three and a half sacks

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Speaker 3: a season ago. Bengals also announcing a two year contract

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Speaker 3: extension for left tackle Orlando Brown Junior, and they make

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Speaker 3: it official introducing free agent signings defensive Boy Mafe and

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Speaker 3: safety Brian Cook. Meanwhile, defensive back Merco Wilson signed away

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Speaker 3: from the Bengals by the Miami Dolphins. College basketball, the

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Speaker 3: Miami RedHawks no longer perfect, losing eighty seven eighty three

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Speaker 3: in the opening round of the mac Turney. RedHawks were

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Speaker 3: get out rebound at forty one twenty four. Now they'll

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Speaker 3: sweat out selections Sunday for an at large bid with

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Speaker 3: their thirty one to one record. ESPN's Mark Adams my

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Speaker 3: guest coming up at seven oh six tonight. Xavier beat

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Speaker 3: Marquette last night. They get yukon tonight in the Big

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Speaker 3: East Tourney. Joe and Byron start coverage at six thirty

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Speaker 3: down the dial on fifty five care see SEC basketball.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky beats Missouri seventy eight seventy two. Next the Gators

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Speaker 3: of Florida tomorrow at one PM. Big ten Ohio State

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Speaker 3: at six thirty. The Horizon League is moving their second

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Speaker 3: will host through twenty thirty one CBI postseason tournament announced

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Speaker 3: today it will not take place this season due to

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Speaker 3: circumstances beyond their control. Spring Training Baseball under the Lights Tonight,

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Speaker 3: Reds and Dodgers here on seven hundred WLW. Coverage starts

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Speaker 3: after US at eight thirty. Reds Opening Day two weeks

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Speaker 3: from today. Terry Francona announcing the season opening series rotation.

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Speaker 3: It'll be Abbott, who we knew on opening Day, followed

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Speaker 3: by Nicolodolo and then Brady Singer. Injury news today, Terry

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Speaker 3: Francona telling Charlie Goldsmith and the assembled Beat writers that

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Speaker 3: Caleb Ferguson, left handed reliever, dealing with an oblique injury.

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Speaker 3: He will be re evaluated when they get to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Start of the season in question for Ferguson. Soccer TQL Tonight,

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati and Konka CAFF Cup Round sixteen play first

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Speaker 3: it on ESPN fifteen thirty. Hockey Blue Jackets on the

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Speaker 3: Road versus the Florida Panthers. Connor Garland two goals and

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Speaker 3: back to back games now Columbus fifteen two and three

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Speaker 3: in its last twenty games, just two points off the

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Speaker 3: playoff pace. Division four Girls Basketball State Semifinals at ud Arena,

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Speaker 3: Purcell Mary And falls to Shaker Heights Laurel fifty six

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Speaker 3: our opening thoughts, opening topic of the night. That's on

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Speaker 3: Wes Miller. His Bearcats led by eight with two minutes

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Speaker 3: left yesterday, they blew the lead, as said coach to me,

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Speaker 3: loss of the season. In the one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: what are we doing here? For goodness sakes, someone put

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Speaker 3: a merciful end to all of this. The standard is

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Speaker 3: no longer the standard at UC. It's Wes Miller last

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Speaker 3: weekend saying there's no shame in finishing eighth in a

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Speaker 3: conference like the Big Twelve. It's an assistant coach yesterday

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Speaker 3: expressing how the team stayed together during tough times and

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Speaker 3: how that's something this team should be proud of. Just

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Speaker 3: make it stop. This was a program that once went

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Speaker 3: It's now seven years without an NCAA tournament, not a win,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I'm tired of people

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Speaker 3: wanting to soften just how bad this is gotten. If

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Speaker 3: I hear another person try to convince me how Wes

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Speaker 3: Miller cares so much about this program that you can

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Speaker 3: what he said on the heels of just blowing this game.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, I'm really proud, really really proud what

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Speaker 3: We have never been anything but competitive, and we've been

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Speaker 3: on the bubble multiple years. Worse Cincinnati. We need to

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Speaker 3: We built something I believe is now sustainable. Okay, let's

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Speaker 3: consider Matt Norlander asked him that question after the game yesterday,

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Speaker 3: just an absolute kick to the growing loss where the

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Speaker 3: team melted down, and wes Miller's first sentence in defense

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Speaker 3: seven and ninety two days ago, four years and ten

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Speaker 3: after that performance, wes Miller, as he does, played the

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Speaker 3: not when he's missed the tournament all five seasons. And

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Speaker 3: I understand that as much as anybody. That's bull crap.

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Speaker 3: And wes Miller has no comprehension of what it means

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Speaker 3: No serious athletic department sits in ponders, well, I don't

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Speaker 3: five consecutive seasons. Serious athletic departments don't debate that question.

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Speaker 3: way for the buyout to create a fresh start. We're

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Speaker 3: And when asked about the state of the program and

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Speaker 3: permeates him and that coaching staff about this program in

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Speaker 3: If you can't tell it infuriates me. He just doesn't

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Speaker 3: too much hard work has been put in for this program.

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Speaker 3: John Cunningham pulled Wes Miller from UNC Greensboro in the

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Speaker 3: Southern League, where he had been stuck for a decade.

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Speaker 3: Now he's in a big Boy conference. John Cunningham knows

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Speaker 3: The only question is if he's going to do it.

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Speaker 3: but we'll find out. Five one, three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 3: Should west Miller return for a sixth season with the

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Speaker 5: Gisel James trying to get to center Courtney didn't do

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Speaker 5: All he had to do is dribble pass the timeline

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was elementary school stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why Keisan Tillery is not the game

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Speaker 5: Smoler called it time out with points less than a

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, Dan, what's communicated in the huddle? Point eight?

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Speaker 6: You can actually catch it, pump fake or sidestep, dribble

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Speaker 2: He caught it and just rushed it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had time to set his feet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's got to be communicated in the huddle.

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Speaker 6: This was a meltdown to the upteenth degree of very

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: For the sixth consecutive NCAA tournament, the Bearcats will not

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Speaker 3: I couldn't say it any better. And God bless Terry

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Speaker 3: He's lived it, he's breathed it, he's played it. He's

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Speaker 3: You heard. I mean, you can tell when Terry's doing

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Speaker 3: And that should be impossible to do. Because that group

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Speaker 3: I don't know. This is me throwing my hands up

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Speaker 3: You were on seven or sorry, Dave's talking Wes and Loveland.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Dave, Hey, that's what's going on that buddy?

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Speaker 3: Just hanging out? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 7: Well, a few things over here. You were talking about

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Speaker 7: But still everybody was throwing everything they had at it

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Speaker 3: Why are we worried? Wait a minute, why are we

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Speaker 8: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Right, Hello? I don't know what happened today. I don't

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: John is in Cincinnati. He's on seven hundred WLW. Hey,

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Speaker 3: John Lance, always a pleasure, good evening, Good evening.

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Speaker 8: Lance.

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Speaker 4: You know I listened to I went back and watched

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Speaker 10: Is that correct? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, your best, oh handler, Why you are turning it

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Speaker 4: Absolutely can't even get it across half court. And and

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Speaker 3: He's unable to when I say he's skittish, he's unable

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Speaker 3: which is about as damning a comment as you can

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And and Lance, you made it. You made a

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Speaker 11: Yes, okay, let me say this, Lance. I called you

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And this has been five years now.

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Speaker 3: Five five and we're I mean think about five and

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Speaker 3: we're actually wondering debating what I don't know should he stay,

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Speaker 3: No serious athletic department with any basketball lineage and history

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And and your dad, I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: The last fifteen minutes of that game yesterday was literally

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Speaker 4: not not. Hey, I wonder who might be coming back.

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Speaker 4: I'll bet you could play it on both hands. Who's

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Speaker 3: And if I've said before, if I'm Nevill Pinto, the

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Speaker 3: Just it's so aggravating that it's even a conversation five

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Speaker 3: The Musketeers win last night. They play on tonight against Yukon.

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Speaker 3: and incoming text from my dad, he says, uh, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm increasing my buyout contribution to ten thousand dollars. Now,

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Speaker 8: Well it's not the nineteen sixties anymore like your dad wishes.

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Speaker 8: So the first reason that Cincinnati is in this problem

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Speaker 8: is because they fired John Brannon. Here, if I get

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Speaker 8: kids got mad because John Brandon was mean to them.

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Speaker 8: So now here's here's the issue. Right now, you fire

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Speaker 8: Wes Miller, who beat Kansas, he beat Iowa State. Who

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Speaker 8: are you going to hire because the guy from Saint

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Speaker 8: Louis in't coming here? Okay, do you want a guy

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Speaker 8: from Utah State?

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Speaker 10: You might get them.

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Speaker 8: That'll be fine. I'm telling you right now, there is

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Speaker 8: not a guy out here that you guys think, and

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Speaker 8: I love YAC basketball, that that's going to bring them

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Speaker 8: back to the sixties.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think anybody would like to go back

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Speaker 3: to the sixties. I think they'd like to go back

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Speaker 3: to at least making the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 8: Oh so, Bob Huggins, who you hated I.

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Speaker 3: Hated Bob Huggins. Why did I Bob Huggins?

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Speaker 8: Oh, oh, we lands we know you did not like

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Speaker 8: Bob Huggins. He was mean to you.

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Speaker 10: We've all we all.

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Speaker 3: Thought that, and I don't. I don't know. I did

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Speaker 3: I have run ins with Hugs, Yes, but I would

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Speaker 3: be back in the lot if people run ins with

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Speaker 3: with Hugs. Well, well, now you're being silly. But what

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Speaker 3: you what you've told me is what you told me.

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Speaker 3: Your philosophy is, don't make a change because you're not

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Speaker 3: going to be able to hire somebody better than West Miller. Well,

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Speaker 3: I would think with John Cunningham the decision, there's a

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Speaker 3: pretty good chance of that. But think of what you've

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Speaker 3: just said. A basketball program steeped in history and tradition

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Speaker 3: can't make a change after missing the tournament for five

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Speaker 3: straight years because the belief is there isn't somebody better

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Speaker 3: than Wes Miller. Think of that. There isn't somebody better

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Speaker 3: than Wes Miller.

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Speaker 8: There's not right now, there is not a guy better

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Speaker 8: than Wes Miller. Want Bob Huggins or you should have

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Speaker 8: kept to John Brandon is your biggest problem, right And

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Speaker 8: I know you're gonna say, well, he was mean to kids,

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Speaker 8: but you should have kept John Brandon.

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Speaker 3: But but he's not here. I can only work with

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Speaker 3: the president and he's not here. So I'm not worried

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Speaker 3: about that. I like John Brandon, but there's nothing that

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Speaker 3: can be done about.

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Speaker 8: That's what you left me with.

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Speaker 3: Is you can't make a change because there's no If

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Speaker 3: there is nobody better than Wes Miller out there right now,

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Speaker 3: then we are steering. We are staring down the barrel

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Speaker 3: of organized basketball as we know it, the end of Harry.

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Speaker 8: The guy from Saint Louis is not coming here.

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Speaker 10: The guy from Utah State.

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Speaker 3: You don't even know. Why would Why would Jared cal

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Speaker 3: Who not come here? I don't know if he would

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Speaker 3: or wouldn't be.

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Speaker 7: We're probably not West Biller beat beat the breaks off

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Speaker 7: of Kansas at Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Good lord, he lost Michigan. I'm not gonna do this

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Speaker 3: dance of one game after another. He lost the Eastern

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Speaker 3: Michigan at home. My god? Is he a relative of

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Speaker 3: West Miller? What are we doing here? Raise the expectations, That's.

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Speaker 14: All I want.

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Speaker 3: I want somebody who's in charge of athletics at the

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Speaker 3: university to say this is unacceptable. We can miss the

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Speaker 3: tournament for five straight years.

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Speaker 2: That can't be that hard.

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Speaker 3: If you are serious, you demand it. It just it's

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Speaker 3: that part of the mentality of this town when it

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Speaker 3: comes to athletics, just makes my pacemaker want to jump

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Speaker 3: out of my chest. Heaven forbid, if anybody want a

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Speaker 3: tournament appearance, We're not talking about final fours in the sixties.

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Speaker 3: It is seven o'clock. Let's check news. Rnail Carrier Sports

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Speaker 3: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 3: All right away we go hour two, hour two, seven

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Speaker 3: oh eight, seven hundred wl Thank you. This is Arnel

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Speaker 3: Carrier Sports Talk for zenterby Kelsey Chevrolet. My next guest.

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Speaker 3: He was on the call with Eric Roffman Friday night

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Speaker 3: for maybe the game of the year in college basketball,

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Speaker 3: Miami beating Ohio one ten one o eight in overtime

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Speaker 3: to complete a perfect regular season at thirty one to zero.

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Speaker 3: He's approaching thirty seasons as a college basketball analyst for ESPN.

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Speaker 3: He is the baseball coach at Miami University in Middletown.

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Speaker 3: Those Thunderhawks, I think their season starts next Saturday, by

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Speaker 3: the way, But let's talk some Miami RedHawks. Let's talk

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Speaker 3: some college basketball in the tournament. Let's welcome in Mark Adams.

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Speaker 10: How are you Lance, want of dack Codge basketball in Cleveland, Ohio?

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Speaker 10: Three one possession games and we're probably headed for a

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Speaker 10: fourth one between Katon, Ohio right now. So it's been

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Speaker 10: a fun day.

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Speaker 3: Let me have you sort through you had eyes on

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Speaker 3: it today. What was your reaction to Miami's performance and

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Speaker 3: ultimate loss to UMass?

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Speaker 10: So completely not surprised. You know, I've had the opportunity,

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Speaker 10: Lance to kind of live with this team a little

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Speaker 10: bit over the last couple of weeks. You'll been to

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Speaker 10: a lot of practices. I've watched them handle the noise

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Speaker 10: over the last especially a month and a half now,

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Speaker 10: where I kind of got to call some games. The

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Speaker 10: UMass game originally, and you know I said on the

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Speaker 10: air at the Ohio games in the overtime game that

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Speaker 10: this team wasn't the same.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't mean that they've done anything wrong or it's

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Speaker 10: just the level of noise and the volume of it

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Speaker 10: and the pressure of it. I thought it started to

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Speaker 10: show in Athens even before that, even and this team

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Speaker 10: finally ran into a juggernaut and UMass. Look, Frank Martin

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Speaker 10: knows a little bit something about upsets from South Carolina

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Speaker 10: and going to the final fourth. You know, And I

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Speaker 10: thought U. Mass was the worst matchup. And I also

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Speaker 10: thought it was a mistake by the Mid American Conference

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Speaker 10: to have the one seed play an eighth seed. I

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Speaker 10: think that at this level of Kydie basketball, you have

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Speaker 10: to reward your regular season champion with a buyer of

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Speaker 10: the semi finals because it's the metric nightmare to lose

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Speaker 10: a game like this.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad you brought that up. It's a

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Speaker 3: perfect segue to a question I had prepared to ask you,

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Speaker 3: cause I'll jump right to it. By my count, Miami

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Speaker 3: is now the ninth regular season champ to losing their

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Speaker 3: conference tournament. Why make the case for why the conference,

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Speaker 3: especially one big conferences should like not grease the skids

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Speaker 3: but give their best team over sixteen, eighteen, twenty conference

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Speaker 3: games an easier path to winning the conference tournament.

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Speaker 10: Well, for the money leagues, lance, the Power five, or

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Speaker 10: whatever you want to call them, major conferences, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 10: You can go ahead and play regular a regular bracket

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Speaker 10: you could ladder at also, but it doesn't matter because

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Speaker 10: the number eight seed in the Big twelve, their metrics

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Speaker 10: are going to be somewhere in the fifties or sixties

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Speaker 10: ty quickly. But in a mid major conference where you're

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Speaker 10: trying to protect your number one seed, and look, in

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Speaker 10: a lot of conferences, they don't have the luxury of

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Speaker 10: the minut American conference that has two teams Akron and Miami,

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Speaker 10: who on the net are going to be somewhere in

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Speaker 10: that you know, forty to fifty to sixty range, somewhere

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Speaker 10: in that range. Well, when you're a mid American conference

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Speaker 10: or mid major level, you've got to protect your best team.

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Speaker 10: You've got to give them the best avenue to the

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Speaker 10: NCAA Tournament. So I say, well, you're soft. I've heard

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Speaker 10: from all these idiots on Twitter about what an idiot

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Speaker 10: I am. Okay, and look, they don't have any clue.

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Speaker 10: They're in a freaking clue what they're talking about. Because

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Speaker 10: it comes down to money lance, That's what comes down

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Speaker 10: to and the only way you make money in the

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Speaker 10: NCAA tournament is if you win. Therefore, you want to

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Speaker 10: send your best team to the NCAA Tournament. So that

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Speaker 10: they have a chance to win, and so that's why

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Speaker 10: you give them a buy in the semi finals. The

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Speaker 10: other thing is typically in a semi final round, maybe

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Speaker 10: you'll play your fourth team or fifteen in the semi

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Speaker 10: finals as a number one seed. Well, those teams are

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Speaker 10: going to be at least a more metric friendly game.

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Speaker 10: Miami basically lost to a quad four game today for

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Speaker 10: intensive purposes. That doesn't help them with the selection committee.

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Speaker 10: And that's a strategic mistake by any major that does

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Speaker 10: that has that type of a format when it comes

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Speaker 10: to bracketing for their tournament.

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Speaker 3: All right, one of many things I love about you

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Speaker 3: your passion, your preparation, and your ability and insight into

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Speaker 3: the inner workings, and that includes the ability do not

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Speaker 3: shy away from the politics of all this. That's a

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Speaker 3: long winded way of leading you to this. How do

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Speaker 3: you view their standing as an at large?

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Speaker 10: Big comes Sunday, The bubble stinks and Miami doesn't. How's

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Speaker 10: that for an answer? The bubble stinks? I mean, think

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Speaker 10: about this lance. Think about the number of press conferences

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Speaker 10: that you've watched of high major head coaches who have

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Speaker 10: every advantage in the world. They have five times, ten

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Speaker 10: times twenty times more money than a lot of teams

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Speaker 10: I'm watching today to procure players. They have five times,

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Speaker 10: ten times twenty times more money to procure home games,

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Speaker 10: which excus every metric that they can buy. They buy

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Speaker 10: home games to skew every metric in their favor, and

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Speaker 10: they still can't go damn near a little bit one

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Speaker 10: game over five hundred at a major conference. Tell me tell

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Speaker 10: me one team right now, well including Alburt Okay, even

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Speaker 10: just watcht Tennessee. Tell me one team that's on the

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Speaker 10: bubble right now that doesn't suck.

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Speaker 3: And can you imagine if they expand the tournament mark.

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Speaker 10: That'd be the dumbest thing. Look, the one thing about

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Speaker 10: the NCAA tournament is it's always been an elite athletic event.

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Speaker 10: Like great teams go to the NCAA Tournament. We get

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Speaker 10: conference champions in the NCAA Tournament. The whole at large thing.

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Speaker 10: You and I'll do a podcast on some time of

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Speaker 10: of how unfair the scheduling practices are in Todd's basketball.

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Speaker 10: I just leave you with this thought, Lance, is there

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Speaker 10: any other international or national governing body theows is to

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Speaker 10: buy home games in order skiw metrics to make postseason play.

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Speaker 10: The answer is no. Now, there are professional teams that

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Speaker 10: allow you to buy players. That's called the NBA in

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Speaker 10: the NFL, but they actually control scheduling of all the

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Speaker 10: members of their organization. I look, I could go to

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Speaker 10: the Iranian Soccer Federation. They have a more fair scheduling

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Speaker 10: process than the NCAA does.

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Speaker 3: As I are a pal, you are as I allow

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Speaker 3: you to get back to basketball and so cool. You've

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Speaker 3: made time tonight. Tell tell listeners you you studied the landscape.

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Speaker 3: You called so many games this year. Give me a team,

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Speaker 3: maybe two that might not be on the radar of

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Speaker 3: most listeners right now, but they should be aware of

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Speaker 3: in terms of maybe making a little noise in the

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Speaker 3: NCAA tournament. Somebody you like that might not be like

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Speaker 3: the obvious team that's going to be a top four seed.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I really like Akron. I do. I've

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Speaker 10: liked Akron from the beginning. I said that from when

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Speaker 10: I first saw them. They're one of the hottest teams

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Speaker 10: in the country. They won like eighteen out of the

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Speaker 10: last nineteen. Now, John Gross does a really good job.

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Speaker 10: They're a very mature team. I just saw four seniors

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Speaker 10: on the dais with them, including Tamar Johnson is one

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Speaker 10: of the most dynamic guards in the country. That's a

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Speaker 10: team that really intrigues me because they're big enough, strong enough,

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Speaker 10: bad enough, you know, to kind of little chip on

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Speaker 10: their shoulder. And obviously it's a local team that I

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Speaker 10: really like. I would have said Belmont, but they're not

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Speaker 10: gonna make it, you know, they lost another one versus

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Speaker 10: eight by the way, you know, talk about a bunch

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Speaker 10: of idiots. That's another one that went down the drain,

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Speaker 10: you know, for the mid majors. But I think Akron

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Speaker 10: right now is the one and hopefully, you know, they

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Speaker 10: can get through this thing. They got to get through

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Speaker 10: this thing and win this thing. But I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna be talking about them on Saturday night and presenting

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Speaker 10: their resume and why they're better than those teams that

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Speaker 10: stink that are on the bubble.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how excited I was when you

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Speaker 3: said you could do this this morning. I owe you

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Speaker 3: because I have moved you multiple days, multiple time slots,

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Speaker 3: and I kept apologizing. In the fact you made yourself

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Speaker 3: available tonight on the scene of basketball means the world

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Speaker 3: to me. Thank you.

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Speaker 10: It's my pleasure. Lance Listen. You know when I asked

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Speaker 10: my wife to dance, I just assumed she'd say no.

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Speaker 10: But eventually she said yes because I kept trying. So

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Speaker 10: I'm on WLW tonight because we just kept trying.

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Speaker 3: Right there you go, There you go. Thanks Martin enjoined

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Speaker 3: the basketball all right, take care, thank you.

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Speaker 15: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Mark Adams ESPN college basketball analysts coming up on thirty

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Speaker 3: years and also the baseball coach at the Miami University

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Speaker 3: Middletown thunder Hawks. He was a college basketball coach for

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Speaker 3: seventeen years. He's been a college basketball analyst on ESPN

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Speaker 3: for every thirty years and all by the way. These days,

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Speaker 3: he's the baseball coach at Miami University Middletown thunder Hawks,

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Speaker 3: who have been doing big things the last couple of

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Speaker 3: years since the resurrection of the program. And what a

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Speaker 3: treat to catch up with him. All right, when we

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Speaker 3: come back, let's do this. Let's open up the lines again.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk some more college basketball. I want

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Speaker 3: to talk about the Miami Rydhawks in or out on

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Speaker 3: one and done? I mean, can you really keep a

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Speaker 3: thirty one and one team out of the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 3: Now wait to hear what Travis Steele said today. You'll

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Speaker 3: hear that next and more of your calls at five one, three,

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Speaker 3: seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred the Big One.

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Speaker 3: It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Seven

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Speaker 3: hundred WLW seven twenty three, seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier

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Speaker 3: Sports Stock presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Hey, we're about an

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Speaker 3: hour away, just over an hour away from baseball under

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Speaker 3: the lights tonight and here on seven hundred WLW. Can't wait,

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Speaker 3: Reds and Dodgers. Let's do a little bit more on Miami.

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Speaker 3: I've got some Bengals conversation and your reaction to what

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Speaker 3: the Bengals have done coming up after the news at

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Speaker 3: seven thirty five. Some Reds coming up at eight oh

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Speaker 3: five tonight. That's a whole bunch. Let's uh, let's do

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Speaker 3: some more on Miami. Losers today drop to thirty one

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Speaker 3: and one, eighty seven eighty three the final do you

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Speaker 3: man you mass now seventeen and fifteen. In the regular season,

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Speaker 3: they went just seven and eleven under Frank Martin in

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Speaker 3: the MAC Miami got out rebounded forty one to twenty

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Speaker 3: four on the offensive glass, seventeen to nine second chance

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Speaker 3: points U Mass twenty three, Miami eight. And in the

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Speaker 3: paint you Mass scored fifty four points to Miami's thirty.

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Speaker 3: Miami shoots forty nine percent from the field, You Mass

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Speaker 3: fifty two and Miami hit just twelve of thirty three

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Speaker 3: three pointers thirty six percent. And Leonardo Batold BETTYL I

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Speaker 3: believe it's pronounced Leonardo Bettial twenty five for you Mass

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Speaker 3: was a one man wrecking crew as the RedHawks fall

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Speaker 3: for the first time this season. After the game, Travis

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Speaker 3: Steel was a little bit miffed. Here's Travis with Terry

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Speaker 3: Bridge play by play voice on the Miami Red Hawk

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Speaker 3: or radio network.

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Speaker 9: I'm not letting anybody take my mind. I'm not going

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Speaker 9: to waste one second. When you've been fired before, Listen,

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Speaker 9: you don't care anymore. You don't care what people think.

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Speaker 9: You don't have to be politically correct like all that stuff.

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Speaker 9: Guys like, I'm just tilling, like I'm going to live

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Speaker 9: life the way I live it, unapologetically.

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Speaker 3: That was Travis with all of the media after the game,

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Speaker 3: talking with the assembled media in the media session. I

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Speaker 3: think Reagan Holgate from Fox nineteen had asked that question.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I want you to take a listen

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Speaker 3: to one more we've got from Travis Steel. This is

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Speaker 3: talking with Terry Bridge. This is immediately after the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as the game ends, handshake line is complete

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Speaker 3: and Travis comes over to sit down with Terry Bridge,

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Speaker 3: the voice of the RedHawks on the Miami Radio network,

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Speaker 3: and had this exchange about the performance. Take a listen.

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Speaker 15: We have a lot of work to do this offseason.

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Speaker 15: We are aware.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that would be Duke. Do we have the other

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Speaker 3: Travis Steel? Okay, I sent you one and then there

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Speaker 3: was one to edit. There should be another one, Joe

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Speaker 3: in the in the file of all the cuts I

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Speaker 3: sent you as we do a little producing on the era, apologies,

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Speaker 3: but I think there's one I sent you in the

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Speaker 3: attached email with seven total of seven cuts. Listen to

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Speaker 3: this one from Travis with Terry Bridge. I should have

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Speaker 3: called a time out earlier during their run. What a

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Speaker 3: horrific call on Ian's That's.

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Speaker 9: A four point swing when we were up, and like,

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Speaker 9: it's just we lost the momentum and it is what

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Speaker 9: it is. Man. We gotta be able to take care

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Speaker 9: of business. But it's, like I told our guys, man,

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Speaker 9: obviously not the result that we wanted.

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Speaker 3: But we'll stick together.

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Speaker 2: We'll learn from this, we'll get better man our journey.

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Speaker 3: We'll continue.

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Speaker 9: You know, Bettyo is just such a load of where

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Speaker 9: he would get the ball in time. He made some plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: he had a lot of travels too that weren't called.

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Speaker 9: And he had a lot of freaking offensive fouls that

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Speaker 9: weren't called too. But fisials don't want to call that.

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Speaker 9: He plays hard, he's relentless, he's physical. You know, he's

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Speaker 9: a really good players, an All League player for a reason.

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Speaker 9: Sunday and that will be uh. You guys waiting to

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Speaker 9: see you know where you'll go in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 9: I think you should be in. You've certainly earned a

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Speaker 9: spot there. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Coach, I appreciate thanks,

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Speaker 9: thank you, yes.

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Speaker 15: Sir much.

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Speaker 3: Travis Steele immediately after the game this afternoon, are they

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Speaker 3: are they in? Are they out? Could you go thirty

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Speaker 3: one and one and not make the NCAA tournament? Seth Davis,

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Speaker 3: longtime college basketball writer and studio analysts, saying, and I

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Speaker 3: quote for me, the only suspense is whether Miami winds

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Speaker 3: up in the first four, meaning Dayton, which is now

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Speaker 3: very possible. Hmmm, would the committee send the Miami RedHawks

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Speaker 3: to Dayton for the first four?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 3: The last I saw Joe Linardi's release, and this was

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Speaker 3: hours ago. This was like after the Miami game, but

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Speaker 3: other games have happened since. He had Miami listed among

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Speaker 3: his last four in not necessarily sending them the Daton

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Speaker 3: to play, but among the last four in actually in order,

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Speaker 3: it went Miami VCU Texas and SMU his last four.

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Speaker 3: Back to what Mark brought up, and I don't have

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Speaker 3: time to do a whole topic on it, and I

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Speaker 3: do not present this as an excuse for Miami because

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Speaker 3: I wrote this this morning before the Miami game started.

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Speaker 3: But there is a growing debate that the one big

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Speaker 3: conferences should do more to ensure that their regular season

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Speaker 3: champs get into the NCAA Tournament. And this would be

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Speaker 3: done by awarding the champ a buy all the way

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Speaker 3: to the conference semi finals or into the finals of

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Speaker 3: the conference tournament, and the idea being that you know,

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Speaker 3: the best team over sixteen, eighteen twenty conference games should

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Speaker 3: represent the conference in the NCAA tournament that if you're

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Speaker 3: a conference and if you want the most exposure and

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Speaker 3: the best chance to win in the NCUBA Tournament, you

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Speaker 3: want your best team in the tournament, not an eight

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Speaker 3: seed that upsets somebody to win your conference and then

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Speaker 3: gets into the turn Navy won the Patriot League by

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Speaker 3: six games. Lehigh won the conference tournament. Navy's not going

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Speaker 3: to the dance. UNC Wilmington won the Coastal Conference regular season.

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Speaker 3: The nine seed Campbell beat UNC Wilmington in the second round.

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Speaker 3: Belmont went twenty six and six this year, sixteen and

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Speaker 3: four in the Missouri Valley. They won the Missouri Valley

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Speaker 3: by three games. Six seed Northern Iowa won the conference

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Speaker 3: tournament and gets the bid. Liberty won the Conference USA

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Speaker 3: by four games. Nine seed Missouri State beat Liberty in

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Speaker 3: the second round. Portland State won the Big Sky. The

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Speaker 3: seven seeded Idaho squad beat him in the quarterfinals. Six

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Speaker 3: seed Furman won the conference tournament in the Southern Conference.

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Speaker 3: It goes on, I mean, think of it. Of all

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Speaker 3: the tournaments that are concluded, nine nine regular season champions

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Speaker 3: lost in their conference tournament, none of them the best

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Speaker 3: team over the course of the regular season are going

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Speaker 3: to the NCAA Tournament. Now little known fact, conferences are

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Speaker 3: allowed to choose how they award their automatic bid. They

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Speaker 3: don't have to have a conference tournament. They do it

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Speaker 3: for money, obviously, but the growing argument is, well, wait,

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Speaker 3: if you're a conference, don't you want your best representation

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Speaker 3: of your conference making the NCAA Tournament. Don't you want

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Speaker 3: your best chance to win in the NCAA Tournament getting

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Speaker 3: into the tournament because if your team wins in the tournament,

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Speaker 3: that's more money for everybody else in the conference. So

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Speaker 3: if you're a conference commissioner, wouldn't you rather have your

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Speaker 3: regular season champ make the tournament than your eight seed

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Speaker 3: or your nine seed or your seventh seed. That's what's

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Speaker 3: happened nine times already in conference tournament play. Up next,

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Speaker 3: what don't we make of what the Bengals did?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 3: It's weird the wave of emotion from leading up to

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Speaker 3: Money Day and then the span from like after four

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Speaker 3: o'clock Monday until this morning and now this afternoon. It's

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Speaker 3: been a wave of emotions. We'll sort through all of

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Speaker 3: that next. RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet.

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Speaker 3: Seven hundred WLW seven thirty seven, seven hundred WLW RNL

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Speaker 3: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. We moved into

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Speaker 3: the Bengals phase of things, got hot and heavy and

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Speaker 3: worked up over uce conversation. In the first hour. We

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Speaker 3: added in some Miami talk with guests Mark Adams have

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Speaker 3: Red's Conversation around the Corner and that will lead directly

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Speaker 3: into Reds Baseball under the Lights and on seven hundred

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Speaker 3: WLW dot Com the Inside Pitch coming up just after

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Speaker 3: the eight thirty news. Let's go here with the Bengals conversation.

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to kind of walk through

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Speaker 3: the week and the wave, the ebb and flow of

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Speaker 3: the emotions against this backdrop. You know, I played a

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Speaker 3: little bit of this earlier in the week and I

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Speaker 3: found some more. I want to go back to the

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Speaker 3: things that were set during the off season from Duke

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Speaker 3: Tobin about last season, about the importance of this season.

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Speaker 3: They're playing of attack, and that kind of I think

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Speaker 3: put the wheels of expectations in motion. Am I saying

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Speaker 3: that that? It got everybody into a mindset of thinking,

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Speaker 3: all right, this, this is going to be good. I

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00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: can't wait and I want to listen back to those

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Speaker 3: comments to then lead us through the week that has

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Speaker 3: been for the Bengals in free agency. Here's Duke Tobin

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Speaker 3: during the course of the off season.

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Speaker 15: We have a lot of work to do this offseason.

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Speaker 15: We are aware of that.

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Speaker 16: We're motivated for it, we're excited about it. We have

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Speaker 16: a football team that has some challenges that we've.

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Speaker 15: Got to solve this offseason.

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Speaker 16: It's going to be all about the who's doing it,

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Speaker 16: the what they're doing, and how they're doing it.

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Speaker 15: That's the focus.

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Speaker 16: I think the organization is willing to do anything it

865
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 16: takes to win. I mean, that's been my hit near

866
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 16: long enough to know that if that wasn't the case,

867
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 16: I wouldn't say it. The organization wants to win. Mister

868
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 16: Brown wants to win. Katie Troy, Elizabeth, Caroline Paul, they

869
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 16: want to win. That's what they want. They're willing to

870
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 16: do whatever it takes. We're excited about attacking this offseason.

871
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 16: We have resources to attack the off season in a

872
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 16: big way and we want to do that. So the

873
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 16: questions on whether we're all in or not, I've been

874
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 16: doing this a long time.

875
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 15: I've never not been all in. We are all in.

876
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 16: We are trying to get the best team possible with

877
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 16: the resources we have.

878
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 15: You know, last year we went all in.

879
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 16: We signed over four hundred million dollars worth of contracts

880
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 16: going all in.

881
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 15: That's what we do. We want to be all in.

882
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 16: We're trying to put the best roster together every year

883
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 16: and this year is no different.

884
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin through the course of the off season, so

885
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: that led to I think in many corners the idea

886
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: of all right, I see better that I hear, you know,

887
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: prove it to me. And then the legal tampering period

888
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: came on Monday at noon, and the hours ticked by,

889
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 3: and the Bengals didn't do anything, and there were in

890
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: some corners volcanic eruptions, meltdowns from people save old Bengals,

891
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna do anything. And then three o'clock hit and

892
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 3: they signed Brian Cook safety two time Super Bowl champion

893
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, a guy who has ginostone had more

894
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: mistackles this past season than Brian Cook has had in

895
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: the last four seasons combined. And then you're thinking, okay,

896
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: now we're talking, and then like thirty five minutes later,

897
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: boy A Mafey is signed. You're like, wait a minute,

898
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: what they got a pass rusher from Seattle And you're thinking,

899
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: in a span of three hours, now they've signed two

900
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: guys for over one hundred million dollars. And then the

901
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: excitement got really ramped up. And then Tuesday came and

902
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: went nothing happened. Wednesday came and went, nothing happened. And

903
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: then that feeling was I got played. I knew it.

904
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: They just do something, boom out of the shoot, and

905
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: then do nothing else. And then today came and they

906
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: extended Orlando Brown junior two year extension and they signed

907
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. So what do we make of this?

908
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one, eight hundred

909
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: the big one to jump in with Sports Talk till

910
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: the top of the air on Bengals Conversation. They extend

911
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown Junior two years two years. He'll be a

912
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: U a ninth year player this coming season. Started at

913
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: left tackle every game he's been here. Turns thirty in May.

914
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 3: Made seventeen starts last year. Seventeen starts for an offensive lineman.

915
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: Pretty dang good. He was on the field for eleven

916
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: hundred and eleven snaps that tied for the most on

917
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: the team with Ted Carris, So overall grades, you know,

918
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: you look at Pro Football Focus, there's some Pro Football

919
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Focus I can take and there's probably more Pro Football

920
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: Focus I can leave behind. But overall it's a metric.

921
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: And out of eighty nine tackles, he was ranked sixty fifth.

922
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: He committed ten penalties, which out of eighty nine tackles

923
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: he was seventy sixth in penalties committed. He allowed nine

924
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: sacks out of eighty nine tackles, that was eighty sixth. Ooh,

925
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: but but there is something to be said for continuity,

926
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: and there is something to be said for how they

927
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: finished down the stretch collectively as a group. Dalton Reisner

928
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: got settled in there after his second act kind of

929
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: where he was sat for a couple of weeks over

930
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: the last six weeks, and this was from I think

931
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: this was Paul Dayner Junior from the Athletic. Their past

932
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 3: block grade over the last six weeks of the season,

933
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown was the best on the team, fifth out

934
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: of sixty four Tackless blocking efficiency was second best in

935
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: the NFL over the last six weeks of the season,

936
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: second best. They allowed three sacks over the last six weeks.

937
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: Of the season, tied for fourth best in the league.

938
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: So they were trending in the right direction, and they

939
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: bring back Orlando Brown, got him for an additional two years.

940
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: Don't have the urgency the dire need to draft a

941
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: left tackle. They lock him up. Then this afternoon, according

942
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: to multiple reports, they signed Jonathan Allen, Vikings defensive tackle

943
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: released earlier in the week. Released. What day is today?

944
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: Teddy's He was released yesterday Bengals signing today. Six foot three,

945
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 3: three hundred pounds, thirty one years old, two time pro

946
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: when he was with Washington. Became a cap casualty yesterday.

947
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: In terms of the Vikings release of him, he started

948
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: all seventeen games this past season, was on the field

949
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: four seventy six percent of the snaps. He had sixty

950
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: eight tackles. He had seven tackles for loss. He had

951
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: three and a half sacks. How much have we talked

952
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: about the need for juice pressure up the middle interior

953
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: of the defensive line. Jonathan Allen fits the bill, And

954
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: I like, I could quote you a whole bunch of

955
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: pro football focused stuff, but I really like this stat,

956
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: in particular, it's from Next Gen Stats. Jonathan Allen had

957
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: sixty four pressures when he was double teamed since the

958
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 3: start of twenty twenty one. So let's understand that means

959
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: he's commanding a lot of attention. He's a load to handle,

960
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: requiring double teams a lot. And in those double teams

961
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: he got sixty four pressures since the start of twenty

962
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: twenty one, fifth most in the NFL, attracting attention, attracting

963
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: multiple guys, occupying multiple guys, freeze up somebody but not

964
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: left neutralized, double teamed, and still getting pressures. In fact,

965
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: when doubled in twenty twenty five, his twelve pressures were

966
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: ninth most in the entire NFL.

967
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 10: I like that.

968
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: Creates an issue in the middle run stopping getting to

969
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback. Had three and a half sacks last year,

970
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: had forty four solo tackles out of one hundred and

971
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: thirty four tackles last year in the NFL, he was

972
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: sixth in total tackles. You add him to the mix

973
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form, assuming TJ. Slayton hangs

974
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: around to Slayton and BJ Hill and McKinley, Jackson and

975
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: Chris Jenkins, maybe some all, none, a few stay, whatever

976
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: the case may be, Jonathan Allen was available and healthy

977
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: for all seventeen games last year, on the field for

978
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: three quarter over three quarters of the snaps and was

979
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: a presence inside. They need pressure on the outside, they

980
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: need a presence on the inside. Jonathan Allen fits that. Bill.

981
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 9: Oh.

982
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: By the way, he was the Walter Payton Man of

983
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: the Year nominee for Washington back to back seasons twenty

984
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: twenty and twenty twenty one, which would lead you to

985
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: believe in a decate he's a good dude, former two

986
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: time pro bowler, a little bit older now thirty one.

987
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: He is he a pro bowler now? Probably not? Is

988
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: he serviceable and dependable and productive? Sounds like it. So

989
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: for a segment before Red's conversation, now what do we

990
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: think because the initial Boy and Cook was like, yes,

991
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: undred million on two guys who are gonna make a

992
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: difference on that defense. That's what I'm talking about, followed

993
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: by two days of.

994
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 10: Ways and it.

995
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: The Orlando Brown isn't a jump up and down and

996
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: shake your fist in sheer delight, but it continues the

997
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: consistency on the offensive line. And what was the note

998
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: with the resigning of Dalton Riiser. It's the first time

999
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: in the Zach Taylor era and in the Joe Burrow

1000
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 3: era that they will return the same starting offensive line

1001
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: from one year to the next. I think that's significant.

1002
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 3: But Orlando Brown does he have some Brown? Does he

1003
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: have some false starts? Does he have that that weird

1004
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: kind of cheating kick when he gets into his set? Yeah,

1005
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: he does that, and he got caught what well, I

1006
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: say ten times. I don't know if all those were

1007
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: false starts, and he gave up some sacks, but he

1008
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: got better later in the season as the line did

1009
00:58:53,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: so pressure off the edge. They make that ad with

1010
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: boy a pressure and a presence in the interior, with

1011
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen a safety to replace Gino Stone. Thank the heavens,

1012
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 3: and Orlando Brown re upped, which means you can kind

1013
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: of back burner the immediacy of a need at left tackle.

1014
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: That's not bad. It's not what the start of the

1015
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: week was. And maybe it's not dazzling in big names

1016
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: with bright lights, but that's not bad. At the same time,

1017
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean they're done. They'd still got work to do.

1018
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 3: Anybody's seen a linebacker, anybody any any linebackers out there?

1019
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: Show of hands. They may have a veteran linebacker to

1020
00:59:52,360 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: pair with Knight Junior and Carter gonna need a backup quarterback,

1021
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: and you could still use a swing tackle for that

1022
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: offensive line. My thoughts of the Bengals through the first

1023
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: four days of free agency. Yours will be next at five, one, three, seven,

1024
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred The Big One.

1025
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: This is Rnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevellet

1026
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1027
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Speaker 3: news time at about four and a half minutes, four

1028
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: and a half minutes from Mark and then some merits baseball.

1029
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: We'll talk Matt McClain, we'll talk to of a Marty.

1030
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: We'll set up Reds and Dodgers playing here of course

1031
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1032
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: sent me a note yesterday and said, hey, heads up.

1033
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Speaker 3: The Butler County Historical Society is presenting Tales from the

1034
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: Booth Get this in evening with the Hall of Famer

1035
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: Marty Brenneman, the first event of twenty twenty six. It's

1036
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 3: called Tuned into History Tour. The program will take place

1037
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: on Saturday, March twenty eight, seven point thirty at the

1038
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: Ross Senior High School Performing Arts Center. This special evening

1039
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: invites audiences to enjoy Marty's stories and insights and reflections

1040
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: on a lifetime behind the mic at audience. Q and

1041
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: a session will follow the main program, and an optional

1042
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: pre show VIP meet and great Opportunity also available. Tickets

1043
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: through the Butler County Historical Society website. That's Bchistoricalsociety dot com.

1044
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 3: Get it Butler Community, Butler County Bchistoricalsociety dot com. Saturday

1045
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: March twenty eight, seven point thirty Ross Senior High School

1046
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: Performing Art Center Tales from the Booth An evening with

1047
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 3: Marty Brenneman. Let's head to Baltimore. Ave you were on

1048
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW Welcome.

1049
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: Hian.

1050
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? We no much.

1051
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 5: I'm just wondering about how set a Bengals.

1052
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 17: How good we think they're.

1053
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 16: Gonna go from here?

1054
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 10: AV?

1055
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: Thanks for Collington, I th thanks for listening. I think

1056
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: I'll say so far, so good. Maybe is the start

1057
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: of the week was big, middle of the week was

1058
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: and today was okay. But I think there's I think

1059
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: the key thing is in terms of where this team

1060
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: is and where it needs to get. There's still a

1061
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: lot more work to do. They still can't be done.

1062
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: It's the same thing I said after Monday, and it

1063
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: was great they made the two big splash signings for

1064
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 3: one hundred million, but I said, well, they need more.

1065
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: And after today I said, Okay, now that's not bad.

1066
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: But now I'm gonna say, comma, but they still need

1067
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: more more work to do. We'll see. By the way,

1068
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: shout out to two twins from Coleraine Township that played

1069
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: at Coleraine High School basketball. They're playing in the Naia

1070
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: Tournament for Marion University in Indianapolis. Marion University Girls Women's

1071
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: basketball is number four in the country. Their names are

1072
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 3: Abby and Kylie McNally, their seniors, and Abby was just

1073
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: named the Crossroads Conference Player of the Year second straight year.

1074
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: She's been the defensive player of the Year three straight years.

1075
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: Over two thousand points here in her career, averaging almost

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Speaker 3: twenty points in eleven rebounds a game. Kylie was Honorable

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Speaker 3: Mention All Conference and their father, John recently retired Colorine firefighter.

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Speaker 3: Their mother, Kathy, had never missed a game until New

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Speaker 3: Year's Day, when she suddenly and tragically died of a

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Speaker 3: heart attack at the age of sixty and I was

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Speaker 3: reading a story about the two and thanks to Ken

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: Perks for passing it along, how they have been balancing

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Speaker 3: grief with competition and they've helped lead Marian into the

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Speaker 3: NCAA tournament. Now and Kylie said in the story I read,

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Speaker 3: she would want us to keep going, that she always

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Speaker 3: taught us that we work for what we want and

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Speaker 3: when times got her, the only thing you can do

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Speaker 3: is keep pushing through it. She never really gave us

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Speaker 3: an option to quit. So they are. They're keeping on,

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Speaker 3: keeping on and playing in her honor, and the team

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Speaker 3: has celebrated her, the mother and her passing and what

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Speaker 3: she meant to the program and to the girls. And

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Speaker 3: now Maryan University will play tomorrow first and second round action.

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Speaker 3: Mary University is hosting. They are the number one seed.

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Speaker 3: They're twenty nine and two. They've won twelve straight. So

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Speaker 3: a shout out to Marion University, the women's college basketball team,

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Speaker 3: number four in the country, with a special shout out

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Speaker 3: to the twins from Colerain Township that played at Colerain,

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Speaker 3: Abby and Kylie McNally. All Right, we've put two in

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Speaker 3: the books. Man, let's do this. Let's turn the corner

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Speaker 3: into some Reds because we will be entering a Reds

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Speaker 3: hour with the inside pitch coming up bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna hear a little Matt McClain conversation, a little

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Speaker 3: no of a Martey conversation. And we are fourteen days

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Speaker 3: out from Red's opening day. Oh there's also an injury

1106
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: to kind of dissect in what it's gonna mean for

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Speaker 3: the opening day roster. All of that is coming up

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Speaker 3: in the eight o'clock era. Thanks for being here tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lyance McAllister, your host, Joe Waddell, your producer, Thanks

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: as always for listening. What do you say? We check

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Speaker 3: News RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey CHERVLA seven

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Speaker 3: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, we are underway in the eight o'clock hour

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Speaker 3: in a rapidly moving evening, rolling until eight thirty when

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Speaker 3: the Reds play here on seven WLW, the inside pitch

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Speaker 3: coming up just after the eight thirty news. Terry Francone,

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Speaker 3: by the way, announcing earlier today a couple of things

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Speaker 3: we'll get into. One his rotation for the opening weekend,

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Speaker 3: Opening week Series Opening Day, of course, Andrew Abbot that

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Speaker 3: was announced earlier in the week. On Saturday, it will

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Speaker 3: be Nick Lodolo. On Sunday it will be Brady Singer,

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Speaker 3: so Abbott Lodolo. Singer won two three against the Boston

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Speaker 3: Red Sox to open the season. I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about two guys in particular, Matt McClain and Noueve Martin,

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Speaker 3: both with home runs. I want you yesterday, I want

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Speaker 3: you to take a listen to the setup and the

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Speaker 3: conversation surrounding Matt McClain. Let's go back to yesterday. It

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Speaker 3: sounded like this, Oh the spring Matt McLean's having. He's

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Speaker 3: ready for the season to start right now, playing this

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: spring leg, he's out to prove something. From day one,

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Speaker 3: passer into his wind up, the left hander's home with

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 3: the two pitch and the plane swings since this high

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Speaker 3: in the.

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Speaker 14: Air, it's deep to left and it ain't coming back.

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Speaker 14: Lockridge going back, looks up at the wall and it is.

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Speaker 3: Out of here.

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Speaker 14: Make it five for Matt McClane, who's twelve run batted

1139
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 14: end of the year, and it's two to one.

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Speaker 3: Brewers. Wow, that was a Bob. Matt McClain to this

1141
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 3: point in the spring is seventeen of twenty eight at

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01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 3: the plate, he's hitting six oh seven. I don't think

1143
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: he's going to hit six oh seven during the regular

1144
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: Imagine if he did, he leads all of Major League

1145
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: Baseball in the spring with that six oh seven batting average.

1146
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: He has five home runs, most of anybody in spring training,

1147
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: not most on the Reds, most in spring training baseball.

1148
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: Twelve RBIs tops in baseball, thirteen run scored tops in baseball,

1149
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 3: slugging percentage leads, ops leads. He's also walked five times

1150
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: and only struck out twice. So that's what thirty three

1151
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: to three think of that thirty five played appearances, McClain

1152
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: has struck out just twice. I like it that that

1153
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: was the storyline going into spring training. I think that

1154
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 3: was the other than health. We always lead with with health.

1155
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: Knock on wood and another hit today. We'll get to

1156
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: that in a second, but I would, if I remember correctly,

1157
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: the biggest storyline going into spring camp was, man can

1158
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: Matt McClain, What will he be? What can he offer?

1159
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: Because Matt McClain, the Reds will go as far as

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 3: Matt McClain goes in terms of how good his season goes.

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: They need him to be a contributor offensively, smart, base runner,

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: good glove. But in order for this lineup to click,

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 3: he's got to hit. And man, if he does, he

1164
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: could be the two hitter. And man, the way he's going,

1165
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: he's going to be the two hitter. And I'm not

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: demanding or expecting those type of numbers. But if he

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: can be good this season, this Reds team is going

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: to be dangerous. Then there's no a Marte. He homered yesterday.

1169
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 3: Take a look, take a listen to his blast.

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Speaker 14: Almost like you're pulling a bow back. This boss sky

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01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 14: to the air and it's well hit to deep left field.

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Speaker 14: Off the battle Marte Lockridge's back. That's gone out of here.

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 14: A solo home run for Noel Vi Marte to tie

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Speaker 14: this game at two up.

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Speaker 10: Through the Revs.

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Speaker 12: Would love to see Marte get himself in a good

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Speaker 12: hitting position and confidence blooming in the last couple of

1178
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Speaker 12: weeks of spring training. I mean, the most important thing

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 12: for Marte in that scenario, it's not only did he

1180
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 12: hit a home run, but he hit a home run

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 12: off of a left handed gap pitcher.

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Speaker 14: It's puzzling really when you look at how much Marte

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 14: has struggled against left handed pitching. It would ease a

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 14: lot of minds if Marte could figure out a way

1185
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 14: to start having success against south pall.

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has what they call reverse splits. He's a

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01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 3: right handed batter who hits better versus right handed pitching

1188
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 3: and struggles against left handed pitching, and it would be

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Speaker 3: a help if that were evened out a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking back to last season specifically for his splits

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 3: would be the term versus left handed pitching. He hit

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Speaker 3: just two thirty two with a five sixty two OPI

1193
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: against right handers two seventy five with an eight twenty

1194
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 3: one ops big difference. And he's kind of had a

1195
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: how do I want to say this, kind of a

1196
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: squirrely camp. He hasn't been great defensively, and it's raised

1197
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 3: some I don't know, I don't know. I'm not gonna

1198
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 3: say eyebrows, but it's raised some conversation. How about we

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Speaker 3: go with that of just the struggle and is there

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: too much of an expectation that he is I don't

1201
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 3: know how I want to say this, not that he

1202
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: would lose his starting job, But can he be everything

1203
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: that people are hoping and expecting him to be. Take

1204
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: a listen to what Tommy Thrall and Mark Shuldon at

1205
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: MLB dot com we're saying over the weekend. They were

1206
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: talking about the spring for Marte, specifically in the field.

1207
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Speaker 3: Take a listen to this. One of the things that

1208
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: hasn't been talked too much about.

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Speaker 14: I don't feel like this camp is that Mobbi Marte

1210
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 14: hasn't necessarily looked great out in right field.

1211
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 3: What would you say the concern level is there?

1212
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know I mentioned earlier that a lot of

1213
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 18: the guys that need have good springs or having good springs,

1214
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 18: and then he's probably maybe closer to the exception to that.

1215
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 18: Uh he would you know, I think they would have

1216
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 18: loved to have seen him go out and just go out,

1217
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 18: you know, claim it the job. I mean, the job

1218
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 18: was almost pretty much his. They wanted to see him

1219
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 18: be the everyday right fielder. But he hasn't looked terrible

1220
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 18: at the plate, but not great. But in the outfield

1221
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 18: he's made some questionable plays. I think one of the

1222
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 18: first games he kicked the ball and you know it

1223
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 18: didn't really feeld it. Well, he didn't take a good

1224
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 18: approach and and that's that wasn't good. And I haven't

1225
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 18: seen all his games, but it seems like, you know that,

1226
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 18: you know, especially with how effusive they were about him

1227
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 18: coming into camp, that he would have gone out and

1228
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 18: just like sealed the deal.

1229
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: And he hasn't sealed the deal.

1230
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 14: I mean, they're they're there's talk of maybe him getting

1231
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 14: some reps in center field. Yeah, and I don't I

1232
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 14: don't think we're close to that right now. The pitch

1233
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 14: to Hindes is down in a way, it's a three ball,

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 14: no strike count.

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Speaker 18: I agree, especially with Dan Myers, is you know, I

1236
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 18: think now they feel good about him in center field

1237
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 18: with his arm and his ability, and I don't see

1238
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 18: any scenario at the moment where you freelance Marte and

1239
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 18: this center field when he's still working on the finer

1240
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 18: points at right field. I think the thing that maybe

1241
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 18: has surprised me the most, it seems like it's been

1242
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 18: the ground balls to him in the outfield that he's

1243
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 18: had the most difficulty with, when it feels like that

1244
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 18: should be the part of his game that should come

1245
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 18: most naturally.

1246
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: Especially a third baseman. As former shortstop.

1247
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 18: He's got to take you good good approaches, good routes,

1248
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 18: make good throws and all those things. Like I said,

1249
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 18: he needs to go out and seal the deal these

1250
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 18: last couple of weeks. I mean he has options available.

1251
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 18: I've already got him on the team in my last

1252
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 18: projection yesterday, but that's only a projection by little old

1253
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 18: me and not what the club is singing. So I

1254
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 18: think they're still safe. I think it is, but I

1255
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 18: think they'd like to see something. There's there's definitely options

1256
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,879
Speaker 18: with pla Day and Benson.

1257
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: I think that's a very interesting point there at the end,

1258
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 3: the options beyond him, not that he would be starting

1259
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: the year triple A Louisville, but could there be some

1260
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 3: type of platoon or would his at bats be less

1261
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 3: than we figure on the surface end. Listening in this

1262
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: week with my morning coffee in my office at home

1263
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: to debut a Armbrewster from the host of The Inside Pitch,

1264
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: executive producer and engineer Red's Radio Network, You're gonna hear

1265
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: him coming up in a bit. He was talking with

1266
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 3: Tom Brennan and his daily hit on the Reds, and

1267
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: he brought up they brought up the name neuelve A

1268
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 3: Marte take a listen.

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 13: So I mean, I think he's going to get the

1270
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 13: benefit of that as much as they can. But you know,

1271
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 13: he has not played well in the field. Yesterday he

1272
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 13: did have an RBI double, but then he took off

1273
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 13: for a third base on the ground ball and ran

1274
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 13: right into an out. And that is the kind of

1275
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 13: stuff that Francona and quite frankly, no manager puts up with.

1276
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 13: So just kind of some boneheaded plays, and well, I

1277
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 13: don't know, I think he's going to have to produce

1278
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 13: the rest of the way for him to be in

1279
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 13: right field come opening day.

1280
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, I know he's he's only air quotes twenty

1281
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: four but there is still a there's still a rawness

1282
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: to him that needs to be needs to be polished up,

1283
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: I'll say. Ultimately, said back into some Reds conversation, Rubin,

1284
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: you were on seven hundred wlw Welcome, Hey, how's it

1285
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: going good, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: I've fought to talk to you since I read Baseball.

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Speaker 3: Well, I believe I talked with you in the last segment,

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Speaker 3: but I appreciate you calling, and maybe next week we

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Speaker 3: could do it again. But I'm up against the clock,

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Speaker 3: and uh we'll certainly talk some next week if you

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Speaker 3: want to check in. But I hoped I thought I

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: had answered your Bengals question in the first segment. I

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 3: feel like I've been throwing a curveball and I've swungen

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: missed on a pitch out of the zone. Well down

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Speaker 3: the stretch. At is eight seventeen. It's RNL Carrier Sports

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Speaker 3: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet. Seven hundred wlw Oh, we

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Speaker 3: gotta hustle down the stretch. Reds Baseball coming, Red's Dodgers

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Speaker 3: inside pitch matter of minutes away. Nicolodolo on the mouth tonight.

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Speaker 3: It will be uh Reyese Heines in left field tonight

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Speaker 3: and Spencer Steer in right field tonight. Tito has talked

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Speaker 3: about getting Spencer opportunities in right. It's interesting we've seen

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Speaker 3: him in left. He's certainly a man of a very

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 3: versatile skill set. Doesn't necessarily have the arm of right

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Speaker 3: field or Baseball Savant rated his arm strength in the

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01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 3: six percentile of Major League Baseball last season, meaning the

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Speaker 3: bottom six percent in all of baseball. But there's that

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Speaker 3: balance of versatility versus nobody. Very few are going to

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: be perfect fielding at every position. But if you can

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: play it when needed, maybe due to injury or to

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Speaker 3: get somebody else's bat in, that's where the perk of

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Speaker 3: versatility comes, and Spencer Steer has certainly proven versatile in

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Speaker 3: his first couple of years in the big leagues. In Toledo, Ben,

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Speaker 3: you were on seven hundred w olw are you welcome?

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Speaker 17: Well, good afternoon, good evening.

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Speaker 8: I should say good evening.

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Speaker 17: Hey, I've I've been in a baseball business my entire life,

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Speaker 17: so more connected, you know, Dominican Mexico or the Latino

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Speaker 17: in all the Latino countries. And the plan for the

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Speaker 17: Reds was for Noly Marte to go play winter ball, okay,

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Speaker 17: And I don't know what happened. I have no idea,

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Speaker 17: I'm speculating anything, but he did not play winter ball.

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Speaker 17: And I know from a source from the dominic inmate.

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Speaker 17: It's like, what's you know? I'm a huge Red state

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Speaker 17: and I always did. And I asked, I said, what's

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Speaker 17: going on? Is Marte? Why is any playing?

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Speaker 10: And he just wouldn't answer.

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Speaker 17: He's just like, uh, political, And I'm like political, why

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Speaker 17: isn't he learning to play?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: He ain't any better now than he was back then

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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 8: That's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, he's clearly still a work in progress. Ben Ben,

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Speaker 3: thank you. I know he was initially slated to play

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Speaker 3: in winter ball. I don't know for a fact that

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Speaker 3: he didn't. I'll take your word for it. Actually, let

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Speaker 3: me pull up the numbers here from twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: and they do not indicate when, So I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: And it may have been an opportunity for having thought

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Speaker 3: it over for last season. He had injured himself during

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Speaker 3: winter ball, had injured the hamstring, and it put him

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Speaker 3: behind schedule. So maybe it was simply that fourteen days

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Speaker 3: and thanks for the call, and enjoy your weekend. Fourteen

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Speaker 3: days until Red's opening Day. Number fourteen worn by, of course,

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Speaker 3: Peter Edward Rose. His son junior Don Zimmer wore number

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Speaker 3: fourteen back in nineteen sixty two, the Pride of Western

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: Hills played sixty three games for the Reds, had a

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Speaker 3: twelve year major league career as a player before becoming

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: a legendary manager. Tommy Harper wore number fourteen for the Reds.

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Speaker 3: I would have lost a bet that Tommy Harper scored

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six runs in a Red season

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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty five. In fact, I wonder if that's

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01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: not that has to be close to the Reds record

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Speaker 3: for a single season for runs scored Tommy Harper at

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six in nineteen sixty five. Kurt

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Speaker 3: Flood wore the number fourteen. Spent his first two seasons

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Speaker 3: with the Reds when he was eighteen and nineteen. Kurt

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: Flood had a total of four plate appearances as a

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Speaker 3: Red We're in the number fourteen. Then I went on

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Speaker 3: to change the course of baseball with the challenge of

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 3: the free agency. Rocky Bridges and infielder in the fifties

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Speaker 3: wore the number fourteen. Paul Derringer, who I did not know,

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: went to Georgetown College in Georgetown, Kentucky. I know he

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Speaker 3: won two hundred and twenty three games for the Reds

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Speaker 3: and is in the Reds Hall of Fame, but he

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Speaker 3: wore number fourteen. And Si Johnson back in the thirties

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Speaker 3: were the number fourteen as well. All right, let's wrap

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Speaker 3: it up before the inside pitch with things that happened

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Speaker 3: on this date in sports history. Nineteen sixty The Red

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Speaker 3: sign a seventeen year old amateur free agent who left

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Speaker 3: his job in a Havana, Cuba, sugarcane factory to come

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Speaker 3: play baseball. Tony Perez this date nineteen sixty he was

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old. Nineteen seventy, SI Royals defeat the San

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Speaker 3: Diego Rockets one sixty five to one fifty one at

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Gardens. Oscar Robertson a triple double twenty eight points,

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Speaker 3: thirteen rebounds, twelve assist Connie Dirkin thirty four points, eighteen boards.

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Speaker 3: My dear friend I'm missing very much former radio partner

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Speaker 3: in Chicago Storm and Norman Van Lear twenty two points

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Speaker 3: in the win. Elvin Hayes had forty points and twenty

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Speaker 3: one boards for the Rockets. The Rockets were in San

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Speaker 3: Diego for four seasons before moving to Houston this date.

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Speaker 3: I skipped this one. Nineteen twenty one, Commissioner Kennesaw Mountain

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Speaker 3: Landis suspends eight members of the Chicago White Sox for

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Speaker 3: their alleged involvement in the fixing of the nineteen to

1385
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Speaker 3: nineteen World Series. The group, of course, included outfielder Shulas.

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Speaker 3: Joe Jackson batted three seventy five in the series. One

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Speaker 3: of the eight eight men out whatever play organized baseball again.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty two. Man, I remember this, I was would

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Speaker 3: have been fifteen years old. Ballantine Books publishes the first

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Speaker 3: of seven annual publications called The Bill James Baseball Abstract.

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,480
Speaker 3: It brought James into the national spotlight for his statistical

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Speaker 3: insight into the game. The sabermetric introduced baseball fans to

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Speaker 3: new ways of measuring players' abilities. I have every copy

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Speaker 3: of that. What did it say? First of seven annual

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Speaker 3: all seven years? I have of the Bill James Baseball

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Speaker 3: Abstract in a box down on the basement. Nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: On this date, the Admiral David Robinson scores fifty for

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Speaker 3: Navy in the NCAA Tournament, lost to Michigan. Nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Bengals uniforms. They announced uniform tweaks for the first time

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Speaker 3: in sixteen years. Wide receiver Jeff and linebacker Tom Tumilty.

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Speaker 3: Remember those names modeled the changes at Spinny Field. The

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 3: jerseys had a leaping orange tiger logo on the sleeves

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: and numbers on the shoulder pads, and jersey numbers and

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Speaker 3: player names easier to read. Two thousand and nine on

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Speaker 3: this date, Never forget this one Syracuse at Last, Yukon

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Speaker 3: and six overtimes in the Big East Tournament, won twenty

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Speaker 3: seven to one seventeen. The game lasted three hours and

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Speaker 3: forty six minutes six overtimes, the second most in NCAA

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Speaker 3: tournament history. Eight players fouled out. And finally, this date,

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, Will Ferrell, hoping to raise awareness for organizations

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Speaker 3: trying to cure cancer, plays nine different positions while appearing

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Speaker 3: for ten teams in five Cactus League exhibition games in Arizona.

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01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: He flew from game to game in a helicopter and

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Speaker 3: appeared for the Reds. I couldn't tell you what position

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 3: he played for the Reds as part of this, but

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Speaker 3: he traveled by helicopter and dropped in one ballpark at

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Speaker 3: a time. All right, I'm out of here, I'm out

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Speaker 3: of time. Thanks to Joe Wadell for producing, Thanks to

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Speaker 3: you for taking a listen. Let's gather tomorrow night. Let's

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Speaker 3: do this again. Six to eight point thirty. Leading into

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Speaker 3: Reds baseball. We'll have more college basketball, some more Reds

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Speaker 3: and of course Bengals news. Maybe some more new Bengals

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Speaker 3: news to discuss. This has been Arnel Carrier Sports Talk

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Speaker 3: presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven d WLW