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Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, The Great America and talk about the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Later on we had Moe coming up. Plus FC was

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Speaker 1: a complete disaster, as was you see Bearcatcher's problems everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But in the studio with me right now is Iris,

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Speaker 1: Rolie and Iris welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. I

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Speaker 1: think for the first time, is that correct?

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what happened last night in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And on Sunday we had something the range of I

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Speaker 1: don't know, seven or eight people were shot, one was murdered.

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Speaker 1: According to most of the accounts, the city is ripe

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Speaker 1: with violence of one type or another. And as the

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Speaker 1: collaborator described to the American people, what your role is

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Speaker 1: with the city at this point?

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Speaker 3: So Willie, what my role is with the city currently

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Speaker 3: is what my role has been almost for twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: prior to me signing a contract to be consultant to

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Speaker 3: the city manager on you on the work of policing

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Speaker 3: public safety, to work through the collaborative. So for twenty

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Speaker 3: two years, I just want to say to you and

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Speaker 3: your listeners, I dedicated myself. My husband allowed me to

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Speaker 3: my husband of thirty one years has allowed me to

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Speaker 3: give them myself freely to the work of the Collaborative Agreement,

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Speaker 3: so that meant no pay. We had no budget, we

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Speaker 3: had no staff, we had nothing. And this was from

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Speaker 3: the community's lins. This is from the Black United Front lines,

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Speaker 3: the people who came together collective links that we're going

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Speaker 3: to sue the city, the FOP in this police alleging

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Speaker 3: racial profile. And now, mister Cunningham, I know folks get

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Speaker 3: all up in their panties about well, what does that

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Speaker 3: mean she's anti police? You're absolutely incorrect. Iris Rowley has

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Speaker 3: done work greater than most people in the city, and

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful to my spouse and to the Black United

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Speaker 3: Front and everybody who's put work into the hands of

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Speaker 3: the Collaborative Agreement, including the police.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the police, because as a collaborator of sorts,

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Speaker 1: you have to work with different groups. One most important

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Speaker 1: groups is the police. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had Ken Cobra on the head of the union

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Speaker 1: about a month ago on Friday, Ken and he said

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Speaker 1: that they have no common in you. They said that

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Speaker 1: you involved yourself wrongfully, possibly criminally in arrest. They had

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Speaker 1: video of you interfering with the police arrest and they

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Speaker 1: have no confidence in you. So if one of the

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Speaker 1: main parties of the collaborative is the police, and the

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Speaker 1: police don't want to collaborate with.

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Speaker 2: You, problem, So yeah, that is a problem.

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Speaker 3: So listen, So Willie, I got into this in a

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Speaker 3: very hostile rep way, right. So we were at the

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Speaker 3: cusp of fifteen unarmed black men being killed at the

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Speaker 3: hands of the police. The city had gone through civil unrest,

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Speaker 3: major corporations, people didn't want to come. We were asking

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Speaker 3: people to boycott downtown Cincinnati, and we downtown tourism and

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Speaker 3: we were effective, and the whole world saw the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: was having issues with the black community and the police.

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Speaker 3: That's what we rolle into federal court with thirty years

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Speaker 3: of problematic policing. Now in the past twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: if you got one incident that you're upset with, Iris

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Speaker 3: wrote it about, I say, she gets an A plus.

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Speaker 1: I have there several incidents.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've.

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Speaker 1: Seen three or four videos.

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Speaker 3: No, so don't do that. You saw two videos, and

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Speaker 3: you saw two videos. One on a set which I

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Speaker 3: was called downtown to help a family who's sixteen year

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Speaker 2: So I get up.

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Speaker 3: Because I work all the time, I don't know when

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Speaker 3: IRIS really gets off. So I'm gonna ask your listeners

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Speaker 3: to tell me that because I go from consultant to

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Speaker 2: Right, that's not fair.

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Speaker 3: However, so when I get a call from one of

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Speaker 3: they've been doing phenomenal work. Call me and say, can

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Speaker 3: you help the family. They don't know where the body is.

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Speaker 3: They don't know this, they don't know that. Get up

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Speaker 3: I elected to do that as the great person I am,

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Speaker 3: This is who I am and this is who I

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Speaker 3: We stand outside, Willie outside for five hours. So I

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Speaker 3: eat because I'm hungry. I'm noticing all these folk walking

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Speaker 3: I am a tax payer, and I pay attention to

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Speaker 3: my town. So folk want to be mad because I

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Speaker 3: pay attention to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Well be mad. I have at it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm noticing a lot of folk walking around with

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Speaker 4: To me, is this?

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Speaker 2: This is not a door? What's happening? So we leave

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Speaker 3: Remember I spend five hours go get an Ampanada so

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Speaker 3: I see right where I'm about to move into because

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Speaker 3: I go live on Green and Republic. Try to live

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Speaker 3: down there for thirty days so I can do some

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Speaker 3: problem solving. But we'll get back to that, because that's

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Speaker 3: still part of the destroyer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get there.

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Speaker 3: To you, attorney, no, no, no, I sound like a tax payer.

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Speaker 3: I sound like a person who's not whose voice hasn't

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Speaker 3: been heard so that you can hear the goodness and

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Speaker 3: you can stop trying to find the bad and the

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Speaker 1: Now, let me say the police don't want to collaborate

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Speaker 3: That's not the police. That's not all the police. It

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Speaker 3: was seven people, ten people. So so one of the

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Speaker 3: things that I have for you, mister Cunningham, because always

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Speaker 3: told you we're gonna try to get me, is I

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Speaker 3: literally just got back with now.

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Speaker 1: In some chief hand I'm not getting I'm reporting facts

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Speaker 2: I don't know if his facts because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk about collaborate.

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Speaker 3: I talked to Can Cobra and he's not said that

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Speaker 3: to me. My husband talked to King Cobra. He's not

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Speaker 3: said they did. Now I've read it in the newspaper.

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Speaker 3: But they have no choice. You said that the police

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Speaker 3: are the main character.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 3: The community is the number one the number one stakeholder

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Speaker 3: in the collaborative agreement is.

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Speaker 1: The community community, the black community, Cincinnati's majority white city.

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Speaker 3: Well, but the majority white city wasn't having fitting on white.

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Speaker 2: Men killed at the hands.

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Speaker 1: They were all justified.

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Speaker 2: No, they were not.

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Speaker 1: Which one wasn't other than Steven Roach.

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Speaker 3: And and and and in our in our community, That's

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Speaker 3: what we were told. They were justified because they were

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Speaker 3: no investigations. Mister Cunningham, and I see where you want

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Speaker 3: to go, but I'm gonna keep moving us forward. Because

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Speaker 3: that's what Cincinnati is and that's what the Collaborative has Actually,

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Speaker 3: sure we helped Cincinnati do move forward. Had we not

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Speaker 3: built in the framework of sayre and problem solving to

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Speaker 3: address public safety and policing issues, we wouldn't have all

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Speaker 3: the development. You wouldn't have a downtown that you see

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Speaker 3: is vibrant. The Collaborative helped rebuild Cincinnati. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, mister Cunningham, but

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Speaker 3: the police and I have traveled the country together to

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Speaker 3: talk about it. So when you say police, whom are

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Speaker 3: you talking about? I just got back from Madison Westconsin.

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Speaker 1: You should the FOP said they won't collaborate with you,

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Speaker 1: and you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, who's FOP?

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Speaker 3: I mean there are many there are many members. Well,

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Speaker 3: there are many members.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to be the police to be

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Speaker 2: an FOP.

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Speaker 1: Surely when that happened, there was some The mayor came

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Speaker 1: to meet with you and they're going to identify problems

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Speaker 1: when you interfere with an arrest and hopefully that'll get better.

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Speaker 1: Did you meet with the mayor about your involvement and

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Speaker 1: the arrest of a person that you seem to interfere with.

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Speaker 3: Did you get But your facts are wrong. No one

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Speaker 3: was arrested. There was a recitable ticket. So that's how

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Speaker 3: I know you're speaking from me because your facts are

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Speaker 3: not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Conference, they're going to get with you and counsel you

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Speaker 1: and help you to understand. Did you ever speak to

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Speaker 1: the mayor on that issue?

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Speaker 2: I'm spoking to the mayor about many issues.

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Speaker 1: Did he talk about that issue? Did he change your

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, mister. No, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: And here's what I didn't do, because if I broke

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Speaker 2: Want to take.

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Speaker 1: A problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, mister Cunningham, let me tell you what happened.

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Speaker 1: By the way, younger than.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you, mister Cunningham, but I'm old enough

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Speaker 2: And so here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: If I broke the law, I would expect for any

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Speaker 3: more cops than you have. I've talked to way more

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Speaker 3: your studio. You know, why I can say that, mister Cunningham,

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Speaker 3: because I talked to every recruit class. I have done

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Speaker 3: that since the year of two thousand and eight. Now

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Speaker 3: here's where I think people get their panties in a bunch.

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Speaker 3: And forgive me for my colorful language, because I'm very colorified.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, so I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So, so, mister Gunningham, here's what I will say to

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Speaker 2: And I've not killed anyone, I'm not to meet.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: But if the police say that they because the officer

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Speaker 3: officer heard who I spoke to was the same officer twice,

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Speaker 3: female cup, I hunt the same officer twice. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to tell you the story because I don't

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Speaker 3: think you're interested in facts. You y'all want a gaslight.

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Speaker 3: But that's cool too, because you can do that.

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Speaker 1: I report the facts, but.

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Speaker 2: The facts were it was a recitable ticket.

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Speaker 1: Did the mayor ever talk to you and say, Irish,

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Speaker 1: kind of calm down a little bit, don't interfere with

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Speaker 1: an arrested and Mary tell you that.

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Speaker 3: The mayor, after a peer of all which we should

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Speaker 3: re elect has always been concerned with my well being

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Speaker 3: and has always been answered. The question has always been policed.

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Speaker 3: I am I'm answering the way that I think that

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Speaker 1: Answer, yes or no. Did the police did the man?

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Speaker 2: I've talked to the mayor about many things, mister Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now on another issue, the issue of the collaborative. Do

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Speaker 3: They have one black captain right now well in the past.

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Speaker 1: Diversity, y, we still have issues of competency that we have.

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Speaker 3: We have issues of diversity as respect to who is

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Speaker 1: The question is what is unique about CPD that all

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Speaker 2: I think that they're not courageous enough.

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Speaker 3: One they've not been sued, so we sued CPD in

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Speaker 2: I think they're extremely unique.

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Speaker 3: I've been trained by the best, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: An inter question or since II police still racist?

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Speaker 3: If you look at the data that comes from our

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Speaker 3: it has reduced injuries to officers, lawsuits, injuries to citizens.

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Speaker 3: So yes, it's unique. Yes, it's still needs. Yes we

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Speaker 1: Not Hamlety County Sheriff's office, the Green town not Sycamore Township,

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Speaker 3: All of them, all of them. So you're that you're no, sir,

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Speaker 3: not But you're the attorney. So can you legally sue

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Speaker 2: No, you can't.

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Speaker 3: I'll answer we were only we could only sue in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: But what I will say to you, dear sir, mister Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: Tracy Hunter, see Hunter, Judge Hunter, Judge Hunter, and speak

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Speaker 1: for herself. She'd be for herself. So she you went

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Speaker 3: Protests a sentence and protest the injustice and protest him

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Speaker 3: having no drug out of court.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she was convicted by a multi racial jury of

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Speaker 1: right now. Wasn't the trial judge. It was Natal who

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Speaker 3: By the way, and that's what make Dan Heels upset

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Speaker 3: this is the greatest point of democracy that you can disagree.

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Speaker 3: And we did no damage to his home. We didn't

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Speaker 3: I'm like folks that listen to seven hundred. Wow, that

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Speaker 3: in iris Rowly. So yes, sir, I did utilize one

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Speaker 1: Are you sorry I get away?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Why would I be.

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Speaker 1: Sorry because it was wrongful? No?

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Speaker 2: Why is it.

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Speaker 1: Because the judge simply did his or her job in

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Speaker 2: No, sir, I did not.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 2: They didn't call me?

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Speaker 1: What do you have to only you respond to circumstances.

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Speaker 3: People call my phone all the time, mister Gunaham. People

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Speaker 2: Charge, No, sir, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying what I don't do that. Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Don't you No, no, don't don't don't make it.

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Speaker 1: Don't make it basant based on race, a person would charge.

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Speaker 3: Because all of the African Americans were charged, and then

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Speaker 3: But here's what I will tell you. I spoke to

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Speaker 1: And you should have been put on administrative leave.

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Speaker 2: I don't that's that's above mine.

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Speaker 1: That is no.

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Speaker 2: I can't say yes or no that. I'm not saying.

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Speaker 1: Have you told police that she should not have been

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Speaker 2: I would not say that. I would not interfere in the.

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Speaker 3: Race based is that based on equity and fairness, based

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Speaker 3: But let me say the fact is I spoke to

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Speaker 2: There was tons of them.

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Speaker 3: So when I spoke to Interim Chief Heney, I said,

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Speaker 1: Who was hit first.

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Speaker 3: I think once you stopped. I think once you stop

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Speaker 1: This is principle.

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Speaker 2: If if you do know the interim police chief did sign.

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Speaker 3: I've not heard that. I've not heard that from the

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Speaker 3: And we've talked through that. And as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: That principle, if civil rights leaders and civil authority stand

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Speaker 1: As a matter of principle, isn't that wrong.

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Speaker 3: That what you're saying is incorrect. So if you listen

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Speaker 1: Should a person be charged because of the color of

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Speaker 2: They should be charged based on facts.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't happen in this case?

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Speaker 2: It did happen. They were charged based on facts because

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Speaker 1: But he slapped a man after he was punched twice

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Speaker 3: But when you look at the video, mister Kunnah Hammond,

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Speaker 1: Thousand bucks a year aren't goodness?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying no, I'm not sir. I feed children,

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Speaker 3: There is not enough to pay Iris really for the

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Speaker 3: I'll wait until well off.

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Speaker 1: As far as continuing, should we continue with the mayor?

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Speaker 1: Is the mayor a long as the city manager? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in charge of the collaborative. I just worked

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Speaker 1: But you're paid right by tax dollars.

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Speaker 2: I am paid.

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Speaker 1: Should like this with the same mayor, the same city manager,

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Speaker 1: you and others involved of criminal justice? And is this

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Speaker 3: Mister Cunningham, I would, I would venture to say, I

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Speaker 3: think you've called some more discord in this process in

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Speaker 3: twenty five years that Iris Rowly has. You've not even

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Speaker 3: heard from Irish. Well you would, but you've not even

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Speaker 3: let me finish.

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Speaker 2: Won't let me?

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Speaker 3: You most certainly doing. You get to espouse it all

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Speaker 3: challenge you, Yes, you will be I've been there since

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Speaker 3: February twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: You know it's my good friend.

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Speaker 2: I've not had any issues.

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Speaker 1: It's my good friend, Charlie Kirk said before he was

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Speaker 2: That's what we've been doing. That's what we've been doing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: When you come on again in a month, you got,

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 2: I'm married to that guy right there. You crazy.

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Speaker 3: I will be back. I'm a member of the Since

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Speaker 3: Name Black and Underfront. But listen, this is what I

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Speaker 3: have for you, mister Cunningham. This is the full collaborative agreement.

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Speaker 1: I want you to read it is I you can

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Speaker 1: have I got this right, your diploma right now.

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Speaker 2: You can't have my diploma.

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Speaker 3: That's my participatory Read it though I want you to

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Speaker 3: read it to the people so they'll know.

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Speaker 1: Center for Problem Oriented Policing presents the Herman Goldstein Award

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Speaker 1: and Recognition of Excellence and Problem Oriented Policing to Missus, Iris,

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Speaker 1: Rowley Society, Black United Front.

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Speaker 2: There you go. So and I was with intem cheap

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Speaker 2: chief Henny with assistant.

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Speaker 1: Did he see the tape ahead of time when he

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Speaker 1: signed the falseho.

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Speaker 2: You should get him in here and talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you ask the mayor and Hanny to come

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Speaker 1: in here that I've asked him, They won't come on.

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Speaker 1: They we got the guts to show up. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you credit for that, but you don't make it.

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Speaker 3: You don't make it warm and fuzzy. You don't make

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Speaker 3: me Fisher to come with security.

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Speaker 1: You got two big men.

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Speaker 2: That comes to.

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Speaker 1: M wrestled those security to this. Will you come back

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Speaker 1: in a month or two?

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Speaker 3: But let me say the guts. I have all the guts.

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Speaker 3: You know what I typically say to people. My balls

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Speaker 3: are beginning you us, But my husband told me stop

475
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Speaker 3: saying that.

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Speaker 1: So listen, are you transgender?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: We had something, are you? You sound like it?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: This is you got your Monday's on the day with

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Speaker 2: his Monday. But listen, tay.

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Speaker 3: That you should have had on Sunday the way the

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Speaker 3: Bengals play. But but that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you come on again? If you got the guns?

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Speaker 1: Irish Rowley, will you come on and do come down

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Speaker 1: to the transit center?

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Speaker 2: When are you coming? When are you coming?

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Speaker 1: My people will be in touch. Will you guarantee my security?

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Speaker 2: My secure?

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Speaker 1: I got you, I got you guys looking.

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Speaker 6: Talk to him.

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Speaker 2: But mister help. The other piece that I have for

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Speaker 2: you is this is actrocency.

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Speaker 1: This is what all this to give me homework.

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Speaker 2: You better read it too.

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Speaker 1: I will because I know who.

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Speaker 2: You learned from?

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Speaker 1: Games?

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Speaker 7: Games?

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Speaker 2: So who was his? Who was his college roommate?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Was that you?

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Speaker 1: Judge? Robert Franklin was a roommate of mL King of

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight? More houses?

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Speaker 2: Your question in my Civil Rights Act?

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Speaker 1: Merit, I don't believe in well you die?

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Speaker 2: Well, why in the world won't we gonna break that?

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Speaker 1: Let's break it up time?

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Speaker 3: So tell them to stop f and when iris really

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Speaker 3: we're doing and.

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Speaker 1: You get me puts you got me yours? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: We have a God Bless.

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Speaker 2: America, God Bless America.

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW Joining me now is the legendary Mike McConnell.

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Speaker 1: You're still alive. Only the two of us are left.

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Speaker 1: Are you aware of this? Alive? And well you heard

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Speaker 1: the end of my Irish Roly debate. Yeah, she shouldn't

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Speaker 1: come completely around. She was almost she was close to

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Speaker 1: coming to be Trump support. Close. And so when I said,

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Speaker 1: is Cincinnati police more racist, for example, than every other

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Speaker 1: police agency in the Tri State answer is yes, of course,

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Speaker 1: of course they're more racist, and they have to be

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Speaker 1: governed by Irish Roly.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you're making one hundred and ten thousand bucks

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Speaker 1: a year, you better find problems. You can't say, look,

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Speaker 1: we've solved this difficulty. It means, right, you don't need

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Speaker 1: me anymore. But nonetheless you're here about Bob Trumpy and

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Speaker 1: so much more. Yeah, all the good ones. You know,

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Speaker 1: the good guy young You and I are in good shape.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And he's one of those guys I think from

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Speaker 8: a listener perspective, he was a little bit misunderstood. He

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Speaker 8: was actually a nice guy, soft as long as you

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Speaker 8: didn't mispronounce something when you called his show that was

537
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Speaker 8: if you like screwed up a player's name or something.

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Speaker 8: Nothing else you had to say was going to make

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Speaker 8: any sense as far as he was concerned.

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Speaker 1: So we began to think of the magnificent six we

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Speaker 1: had when it all got together. We had Jim Scott,

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Speaker 1: pretty good, Mike McConnell, I love that guy. I love

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Speaker 1: that guy too, really good. Gary Burbank is pretty good,

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Speaker 1: not bad. Bob Trumpy or Chris collins Worth, Andy Furman, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me and then the truck and Boso, and now only

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Speaker 1: two of us were left. The rest he did. What

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Speaker 1: does it say about us?

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Speaker 8: You sent out a tweet or something today? It was

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Speaker 8: brought to my attention the way you wrote it, the

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Speaker 8: passing of Bob Trumpy read it.

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Speaker 1: You haven't right there. I have all kinds of stuff here.

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Speaker 1: It appears to others as though you're calling me a bozo.

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Speaker 1: We know they not. Everyone knows about the bozo. So

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Speaker 1: the way you rode it, well I did. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to put the bozo in because you know he's dead too.

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Speaker 1: So here it is father time is undefeated, untied, unscored

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Speaker 1: on that's the one. Jim Scott, Gary Burbank, now Bob

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Speaker 1: Trumpey have recently died, and the Bozo dot Mike McConnell, yes,

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Speaker 1: comes before. That's right. I guess you could read your

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Speaker 1: the boat. So Mike McConnell has retired. All night Man

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Speaker 1: used to be the truck and Bozo. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: how many years he's been going fifteen years, twelve at least,

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Speaker 1: but he's in the Hall of Fame. And you and

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Speaker 1: I aren't look at it that way, but that was

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Speaker 1: the lineup made and we don't recognize at the time

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Speaker 1: what it was because we were doing we were just

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Speaker 1: doing radio because of the great producer, director, head coach

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Speaker 1: Randy Michaels. He's the one that got it done. Plus

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Speaker 1: John Phillips in the air with the helicopter didn't crash.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Nanson Cormick, it didn't crash. That was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Traffic was wonderful and from the sky.

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Speaker 8: And then we also I remember Dave Reinhardt walking around going,

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Speaker 8: you don't understand not every place is like this.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was everybody had people like this, right,

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Speaker 1: So what are some of your other thoughts about Bob Trumpy.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a few of minds.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's yeah, I know hi when he worked here,

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Speaker 8: but knew more about him after he retired. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he's one of those guys. He really you like to him.

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Speaker 8: Keep an eye out for the older guys in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 8: He cared about them. Memorial Day Parade, he'd get a

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Speaker 8: golf cart and ride it. In case somebody got tired,

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Speaker 8: he could hop in and get them a ride.

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Speaker 1: Also, I had the one night that a woman is

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Speaker 1: committing suicide. Yeah, called in and Bob Trump. He almost

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Speaker 1: cried himself to talk her off the ledge, get her help.

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Speaker 1: That was the soft side of Trump. The hard side

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Speaker 1: that the listener perceived was very difficult if you disagree

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Speaker 1: with him. The best shows he did was a pet

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Speaker 1: Pete Franklin from Cleveland and when the Browns and you

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Speaker 1: know the Coastar and the size and all that, back

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Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. He'd interview Bill Belichick, he'd

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Speaker 1: interview everybody, everybody, and you listen to some of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Matt Reason back and put all these old tapes to

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Speaker 1: get on, get it on. He was even a better

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Speaker 1: interviewer than you remember. He was pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, remember him know all this stuff and occasionally being bombastic,

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Speaker 8: But if you sit down and listen to an interview,

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Speaker 8: he was a better interviewer then I think we gave

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Speaker 8: him credit for.

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Speaker 1: And then of course you got the NBC. He did

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Monday Night, did Westwood One, did the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: Classic Story, the Ryder Cup three times. Masters he did

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Speaker 1: that on radio so he could play I gust the

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Speaker 1: National now and then, which is not a bad thing

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Speaker 1: to think about. He said.

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Speaker 8: He only done golf a few times, and he was

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Speaker 8: I guess you get out there and play the course

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Speaker 8: when you first get there, and learn a thing or two.

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Speaker 1: About it, mister golf professional. I got to play a guy.

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Speaker 1: I got to play somebody else, you know Trump. Hey,

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Speaker 1: And he turns around as Arnold Palmer. He said, Arnold

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Speaker 1: Palmer knows my name Trump. Yeah, Arnold Palmer Palmer not bad, right.

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Speaker 1: I was after him for like twelve years. So I

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Speaker 1: got there by a mistake, like in August of eighty three,

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Speaker 1: supposed to have a to be here, and I would

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Speaker 1: go into the studio at I was on nine pm

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Speaker 1: until one am, and the trump Ster was on six

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Speaker 1: to nine. And it was a small studio about half

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Speaker 1: the size it was filled with cigarette smoke. He was

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Speaker 1: a chain smoker on the air. So after about two

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Speaker 1: or three weeks, I said, Bob, is it possible that

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Speaker 1: for the last hour before I sit in this small

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Speaker 1: closet studio that you couldn't smoke? He dropped the F

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Speaker 1: bomb and ended it with you, and so I guess

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Speaker 1: the answer was no. And then Randy Michaels would want

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Speaker 1: him to read. Of course, that was a big deal

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Speaker 1: at the time, school closings. The next day Trump he says,

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Speaker 1: I don't do school closings. Get somebody else in there.

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Speaker 1: They got into it. And what did Bob Trumpy do

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Speaker 1: with Randy Michaels end them? Didn't he up against the wall.

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Speaker 1: Randy was a strong man, and Randy Michaels remains. I

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Speaker 1: understand he's lost about eighty pounds. He's in great health,

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Speaker 1: but at the point he probably weighed hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: one hundred ninety pounds. Five foot eight. Picked him up

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Speaker 1: by his shoulder blades, pinned him up against the wall,

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Speaker 1: and Randy's feet feet were moving like he was running,

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Speaker 1: and he said, I don't do school closings. So he

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Speaker 1: had seg to come in to do school closings the

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Speaker 1: next day. Trumpy wouldn't do it. It was hard to coach shows,

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Speaker 1: say would you. Yeah, but he had that heart of

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Speaker 1: gold going for. He had a heart of gold. So

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Speaker 1: what do you mean you get into like the Pete

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Speaker 1: Rose and Ojson.

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Speaker 8: Wait, he believed those guys because they told him they

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Speaker 8: didn't do it. And I'll tell you, and I said

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Speaker 8: this at the time, if you were ever in some

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Speaker 8: serious trouble, you probably couldn't find a more loyal friend

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Speaker 8: than Bob. Trumpy didn't exist. He was and what he was,

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Speaker 8: I mean, he was amazed that friends of his would

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Speaker 8: lie to him when.

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Speaker 1: It all came out. Pete Rose had this lawyer in Dayton,

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Speaker 1: I forget his name, that would come on with Bob

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Speaker 1: and then me afterwards. And this went on for like

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Speaker 1: what from February until August of nineteen eighty nine when

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Speaker 1: he met the commissioner, Uberroth met him up and you

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Speaker 1: know the rumors betting on And I said betting because

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Speaker 1: I had bet with Pete at the racetrack And when

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Speaker 1: I started doing the extra inning show, I was on

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Speaker 1: with Pete and we became friends, and I knew he

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Speaker 1: bet on everything. And the fact he wouldn't bet on baseball,

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Speaker 1: the one sport he knew to me was like unlikely.

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Speaker 1: But then at Willie's and Kenwood we opened up in

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Speaker 1: eighty nine, he was there almost every day at the

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Speaker 1: at the bar by himself, making bets and the bartender

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Speaker 1: is telling me he's betting on baseball, and I said, wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, but he had this, uh, this ability to

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Speaker 1: convince Bob Trumpy that he wasn't betting on baseball.

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Speaker 4: And O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson could not have slaughtered and sliced off the head

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Speaker 1: of the mother of his children. That's not OJ that

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Speaker 1: I know. He went down with both ships. He did,

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Speaker 1: and he was hurt, and OJ told him he didn't

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Speaker 1: do it. That was good enough. What about the blood?

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Speaker 1: I was all playing it there by, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by whatever. So what's Mike McConnell doing these days? Actually

677
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Speaker 1: kind of relaxing? They doing nothing. Well, do you miss it?

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Speaker 1: You want to pinch it for me?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: And then? No? Not really?

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Speaker 8: I mean do you want to think about that? I

682
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Speaker 8: could pinch it for like ten fifteen minutes. I would

683
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Speaker 8: want to do a whole show.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 8: Once in a while something comes up and I'll, you know,

686
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Speaker 8: interest me. So I'll start looking some things up and

687
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Speaker 8: like I could use something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 8: How about AI taking all our jobs as an example?

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Speaker 8: Could it so the other day?

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Speaker 1: Because I'd heard a set like this sometimes In nineteen fifty,

692
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Speaker 1: one of every thirteen women working was a telephone operator.

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Speaker 1: One of every thirteen women in America. That's what they

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Speaker 1: did for a living.

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Speaker 8: Today and three hundred and thirty million people, we have

696
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Speaker 8: two thousand operators because back then, I mean it was

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Speaker 8: switchboards and office building switchboards and hotels, all those things,

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Speaker 8: or one point three million in nineteen fifty and all

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Speaker 8: those jobs are going, right, but they found something else

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Speaker 8: to do, right, AI, I probably paid better than that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Another thing, of course, we talk about food stamps and

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Speaker 1: the cards, BET cards, And in nineteen seventy five to

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one and fifty Americans were on food stamps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: today it's one in eight and it's accelerating. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's more people hungry and families today than there

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Speaker 1: were in the nineteen seventies. And give the numbers, that

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Speaker 1: means two percent of the American people were in food

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Speaker 1: Sampson in the mid nineteen seventies today's twelve and a

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Speaker 1: half percent, six times increase. I think there's some fraud

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Speaker 1: going on a little bit. There's no good there's no

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Speaker 1: good explanation for that at all. None.

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Speaker 8: It's easier to get on disability, that's part of it.

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Speaker 8: You know, fewer people on regular welfare benefits they switched

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Speaker 8: to disability. It's easy to get on that, and then

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Speaker 8: you get the rest of your benefits as a result.

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Speaker 1: So when you have a large, consistent, large group of

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Speaker 1: Americans committed to a government benefit that goes on for years,

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Speaker 1: it's damnar impossible to stop it. Was there a dip

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Speaker 1: with Clinton.

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Speaker 8: I'm one of those people on the few Republicans who

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Speaker 8: gave Clinton a little bit of kudos for what do

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Speaker 8: you ACCOMPLI Yes he did.

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Speaker 1: He did. He put in wealth work requirements, shut down

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Speaker 1: the southern border. And I remember at the balance budgets

726
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Speaker 1: at the time, Health and Human Services having the county

727
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Speaker 1: was ta to somebody from there and they said they

728
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Speaker 1: were actually in the wake of Clinton's fixes, that they

729
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Speaker 1: were getting thanks from people for kicking them in the

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Speaker 1: butt and getting a job, and they felt better about themselves,

731
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Speaker 1: and they were saying, what surprises you if you're losing clients,

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Speaker 1: so to speak.

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Speaker 8: You don't usually like that, but they were very positive

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Speaker 8: about it. So it had we've dipped at some point

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Speaker 8: and then just another work requirement went away.

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Speaker 1: Now, the institutionalization of government benefits is so deep and solid.

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Speaker 1: The media doesn't do stories on people that should not

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Speaker 1: be on food stamps. I watched the Secretary of Agriculture yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They've so far found five million dead people getting food stamps.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's using their cards EBD cards five million, and they

741
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Speaker 1: also said another five to eight million or illegal shouldn't

742
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Speaker 1: get in anyway. So the forty two million to get it,

743
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Speaker 1: that number should be about cut in half. They're in

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Speaker 1: the business to trying to find out who's illegally getting it.

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Speaker 1: But the Democratic Party at blue states blue cities won't

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Speaker 1: give the FEDS the information who's getting the benefits. The

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Speaker 1: states administer and the FEDS pay for it. So if

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Speaker 1: the state of California, for example, in New York State

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Speaker 1: won't communicate to the FEDS who's getting food stamps, what

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Speaker 1: do you do? And the answer is, we don't know.

751
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Speaker 1: Because we know five million are dead, another five to

752
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Speaker 1: eight million shouldn't beet they're illegal, But we need more

753
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Speaker 1: information about who's getting this because obviously twelve and a

754
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Speaker 1: half percent of us aren't hungry. In fact, obesity is

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Speaker 1: a bigger problem for the poor than malnutrition. Far and away,

756
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Speaker 1: far and away, that's the problem. Can you say that, Yeah, yeah,

757
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Speaker 1: I just did. Is it true? Can you speak truth?

758
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can. So, Hell, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The free store food bank, I think that's good. Is marvel?

760
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Speaker 1: I like that the way they do things. I bought.

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Speaker 1: But here's another issue. I am told on YouTube there's

762
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Speaker 1: a way to gain and to gain the freesto forward

763
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Speaker 1: free store food bank and also the food stamps. By that,

764
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Speaker 1: I mean the cars that pull in. They go to

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Speaker 1: one free store food bank, then go to another, and

766
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Speaker 1: then go to another. And with the dead people getting

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Speaker 1: food stamps, they put them in large drums. All these

768
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Speaker 1: product shipping back to Haiti or Nicaraguar somewhere, and they're

769
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Speaker 1: sold in the bodegos, and so they monetize it. Plus

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Speaker 1: you can sell your your benefits for fifty cents on

771
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Speaker 1: the dollar and get cash. Now should that be in

772
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Speaker 1: the system. Hell no, I want hundred people to get it. Yeah, well,

773
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Speaker 1: number years ago. It's probably late eighties, early nineties. Right

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Speaker 1: after the Thanksgiving free store, great food giveaway, guy called

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Speaker 1: the day of a guy called Who's a small grocer

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Speaker 1: somewhere in town talk about the number of people coming

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Speaker 1: in trying to sell them turkeys they just got on

778
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Speaker 1: the free store. Can we get that out of the system?

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Speaker 1: Is that possible? I don't know. I doubt it make

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Speaker 1: everybody reapply. I don't know. Ye may wouldn't that be something? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Right well, Michael, you you gotta do

782
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Speaker 1: talk radiot. Have you thought about every now and then

783
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Speaker 1: doing the morning show when Tom Brenneman's on Friday's doing football? No,

784
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Speaker 1: have you thought about doing Middays ten am to two pm,

785
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Speaker 1: which you did or ten to three you did.

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Speaker 8: I told Rocky I'd fill in for Eddie sometime, because

787
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Speaker 8: I've told Eddie has got the easiest job in the

788
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Speaker 8: freaking world. Mean, you could get up and you could

789
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 8: play around the golf if you wanted to get to

790
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Speaker 8: work at three and be home by dinner and work.

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Speaker 1: With the I thought Eddie sets up all.

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Speaker 8: That's not true, he says, he does it more so

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Speaker 8: with Rocky having football related so.

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Speaker 1: You will pinch it when any fingers is gone with

795
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Speaker 1: Rocky and All, I said, I would, whether you do

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Speaker 1: it or not. Yeah, but you won't do the truck

797
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: and bozo overnight with the Red Eye. You won't do that?

798
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Is that still on?

799
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Speaker 8: That was the worst part about getting up at three

800
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Speaker 8: twenty in the morning was listening to that Red Eye.

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Speaker 1: The Red Eye radio is Tony Benner's favorite program here.

802
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: He told me he loves Red Eye red He loves it,

803
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: loves that stuff. Mike, thanks, talk about people can never

804
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: change the subject. You gotta be able to be a

805
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: little flexible, right. I have a reputation to be in

806
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: somewhat conservative, but I talk about everything, and I watch

807
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: MSNBC and I read the New York Times. Guys, got

808
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: to see what the enemy's doing. I do too well,

809
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: come back again. You got a future in radio. I

810
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: might stop by. Are you in Social Security yet? Oh? Yeah?

811
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Speaker 1: Don't you love it? It's yeah. On the twenty three

812
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: every month I had about five grand put on my account.

813
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: I got to you on the fifteenth.

814
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 8: It comes through and you eat ch ching, get my

815
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 8: regular installment on the first. I still get paid on

816
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 8: the first and fifteenth, just like the old days. You

817
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 8: do how do you do that? From here?

818
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: All my savings, I got to work. I take a

819
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: chunk of them. That comes in the first, and then

820
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: social comes in on the fifteenth. A year in hog Heaven,

821
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I got to talk to Tony Benner about a long term,

822
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: guaranteed bonus Laton contract extension. I'm not done yet, Mike.

823
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Do you ever see me retiring? No? Well, when's it up?

824
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: When's your president? I think three years, but I'm not sure.

825
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I really haven't. I signed something four or five years.

826
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to be here as long as Trump is

827
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Speaker 1: in the White House. After that, I'm done. There's a

828
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Speaker 1: goal for Yeah, okay, thanks for stopping in. Don't be

829
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: a strange. My pleasure. My pleasure, Me and I Iris Rolie.

830
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Is that a match made in heaven time? I think

831
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: off air, you guys are getting along right. She wanted

832
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: to hug me, like all women do. I said, go ahead, Iris,

833
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: have at it, but don't don't squeeze my buns, is

834
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Speaker 1: all I told her, and she sat on the air.

835
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: She doesn't have balls, and she asked me, do you

836
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: I said, you want to see him? I saught I

837
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: better not do that. Would you agree.

838
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 8: I've had some militants on over the years who off

839
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 8: air were fine.

840
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: She's fine on then all of a sudden, that's yeah,

841
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: it's this the green letters Salvation racism pays big bucks. Yeah.

842
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: On news Radio seven hundred WLW, I Billy Cunningham, the

843
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Great America dihearst mos here to put a carriot on

844
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: the performances of a so called sports teams over the weekend,

845
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: beginning on Friday, when Anna's a fat Russian woman beat

846
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: the crap out of Deer Park High School in the

847
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: high school playoffs. It was forty seven to three or something,

848
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: and so I knew it was going to be a

849
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: bad weekend mode and it was going to be this bad.

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Speaker 1: Anna kicked it off near Minster by the way. Anna

851
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: is by Minster. You've been there many times, I'm sure

852
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: hang out there often. And then then Saturday kind of

853
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: build a little bit of the tsunami. Saturday you have

854
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Speaker 1: the Mormons out of the Utah. I saw a lot

855
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: of your social media picks, et cetera. It was a

856
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: great place, a lot of people there, the empty stadium,

857
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was packed, people going nuts.

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00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: Game day was there. It was wonderful, and you had

859
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: told me that you see was going to win the game.

860
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: I think the final score was like forty eight to

861
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: fourteen or something, but it wasn't that close. I never

862
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: told you they were going to win the game. And

863
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: then they got a little bit bigger for the Bengals

864
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday one o'clock this morning, everyone had bags

865
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Speaker 1: over their head on ESPN, and you've gone over the

866
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Speaker 1: stats and I'll get to them in a moment. And

867
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Speaker 1: Sunday night at the Enchilada, the Big FC against the Crew,

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Speaker 1: and you know, shots on goals and important measure as

869
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to whether you're advancing the ball. I don't care much

870
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: for soccer. It's a comedy sport. That's a different thing.

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00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: Twenty shots on goal. Crew had nineteen of the twenty

872
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: shots on goal since I had one shot on goal,

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00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: and they get hammered for zip. Now, let's not begin

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00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: with dear Park and Anna, let's go let's not begin

875
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: with the Bearcats. Let's go on to the Bengals. Bengals,

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Speaker 1: are you prepared for some stats?

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Speaker 7: And in the middle of all that, we lost the

878
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 7: godfather of Cincinnati sports talk radio.

879
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that too mode. That's got

880
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of a downer right there, because he's eighty years

881
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: old and he passed away yesterday, the great number eighty four.

882
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: In fact, the player for the Bengal opponent yesterday, you

883
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: might recall, was wearing what number as he went in

884
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: to win the game. I'm sorry, eighty four eighty four.

885
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: That was Bob Trumpy going at the Bengals of Mike

886
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: Brown one more time. The player wearing number eighty four

887
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: for the Bears is the one, and I put on

888
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: my social media accounts the three Bengal defenders all around

889
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: this guy, and all they had to do was say,

890
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: get him on the ground, likely win the game. And

891
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: the three Bengal defenders could not tackle number eighty four.

892
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: Am I right or wrong about?

893
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 7: You're one hundred percent right, and I'm sorry my brain

894
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: froze there. Eighty four.

895
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: You were thinking about the Trumpster.

896
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 7: When the Chicago Bears got the ball back, it wasn't

897
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 7: a matter of if they would score. It was a

898
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 7: matter of would there be any time left?

899
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: Now?

900
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: When I knew that.

901
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 7: You knew how they were going to score, Chances are

902
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 7: there was going to be either busted coverage or mistackles

903
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 7: in the secondary, which is exactly right if there was

904
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 7: an avatar for the twenty twenty five Bengals. It's how

905
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 7: Chicago scored that last touchdown with two safeties basically colliding

906
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 7: with each other. The position that all offseason Duke Tobin

907
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 7: left unaddressed comes back to bite him in a moment

908
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 7: where the season was hanging in the balance. It was

909
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 7: an embarrassment. It was a direct indictment on Duke Tobin.

910
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 7: It was a direct indictment on Al Golden. It is Golden.

911
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: It's goal in goal in take the D out, there's

912
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 7: no d It's so frustrating from a few different perspectives.

913
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 7: Number One, lay out the Joe Flacco story should be

914
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 7: the best in the NFL. He joins the Bengals and

915
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 7: within five days he gives us hope. Four days later

916
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 7: he plays his heart out against the Pittsburgh Steelers beats

917
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 7: him in prime time. He has since played some of

918
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 7: the best football of his.

919
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Eighteen year career.

920
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 7: This should be the best story in the NFL, and

921
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 7: instead it's a footnote. Because the defense all I heard

922
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 7: all off season long was Al Golden with the same

923
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 7: guys is going to fix the defense enough? So that

924
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 7: it's league average. All we need is league average everage average.

925
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 7: My question was average. My question was statistically that makes sense.

926
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 7: If you have a great offense and a league average defense,

927
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 7: you should be okay. But when the game is hanging

928
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 7: in the balance, when you need a stop to win

929
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 7: the game, when you need a stop to give your

930
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 7: offense the ball back to give them a chance to

931
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: win the game, can you all season? Last year? All season?

932
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: Yes?

933
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: The answer were the answers were no, No, What about

934
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 7: this year?

935
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 6: No.

936
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 7: Against the Detroit Lions, they cut to the they cut

937
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 7: the Detroit lead to eleven points, ten and a half

938
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 7: to go in the fourth quarter. Lions go down in

939
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 7: six plays against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a game that they

940
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 7: did wine of the field, slow down, Aaron Rodgers, you

941
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 7: win the game.

942
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: They don't.

943
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 7: Fortunately, Pittsburgh scored with too much time and the Bengals

944
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 7: actually came back and won that one. Against the Jets,

945
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 7: when they needed a stop, could they get it?

946
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: No?

947
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 7: Against the Bears, when they needed a stop, a team

948
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 7: playing without their top running back, a team who's best

949
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: wide receiver didn't catch a pass yesterday, could they get

950
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 7: a stop?

951
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 10: No?

952
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: And so the fact that.

953
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 7: We asked those questions this past summer, are they going

954
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 7: to be able to get stops? And we were padded

955
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 7: on the head and assured to Tobin and el Golden

956
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 7: know what they're doing.

957
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Yes.

958
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 7: The fact that it turns out that they were wrong

959
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 7: and we were right tells me those people shouldn't be

960
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 7: employed by this franchise anymore.

961
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: Here's the photo I put on social media. I'm sure

962
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: you and Tanya Benner saw it. I say, how is

963
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: it possible Bengal defenders missed this tackle? There's this snapshot.

964
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: You got three guys around number eighty four. Three guys

965
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: just attack them, be like a monkey, Jump on his back,

966
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: get him down, stop him somehow.

967
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin has had his successes. We know what they

968
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 7: are right. Most of them have centered around drafting Joe

969
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: Burrow and Jamar Chase. Is that smart and and make

970
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 7: smart personnel decisions with the teams that went to five

971
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 7: consecutive playoffs in twenty eleven through twenty fifteen. But with

972
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 7: what he has been tasked to do over the last

973
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 7: couple of years, which is draft defensive players and give

974
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 7: them to a coaching staff that can get them to

975
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: help immediately. He has failed spectacularly. And here's where the

976
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 7: distrust comes in. If the Bengals are going to fix

977
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 7: this defense in time to win championships, while you have

978
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow, Duke Tobin is going to have to do

979
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 7: the exact same things he has failed at doing the

980
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 7: last few years.

981
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: Why is he still employed today? It's a great in

982
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Why if I put on my social media account, MO,

983
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: he should be fired. I don't know.

984
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 7: I don't know what's scoring. I don't know how you

985
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 7: conclude any other way. I don't know how you could.

986
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 7: You could watch what the Bengals have done on defense

987
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 7: the last couple of years and seen the number of

988
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: failed draft choices, seeing the number of failed decisions, and

989
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 7: walk away from it thinking Duke Tobin should be given

990
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 7: a chance to fix this rebuilt I don't know how

991
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 7: you do that, I have I don't know how you

992
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 7: could say that organizationally, this thing that they have been

993
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 7: bad at, they're suddenly going to be good at with

994
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: the same people in charge.

995
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

996
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 7: I don't know how you do that. This is an

997
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 7: affront to anybody who watched last year's team. It's an

998
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 7: affront to the quarterback play they should be getting from

999
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow and they and they are getting from Joe Flacco.

1000
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 7: And I keep coming back to this when when Joe

1001
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 7: Burrow got hurt behind an offensive line that continues to

1002
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 7: not be great although it is played okay with Joe

1003
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: Flacco as quarterback. I imagine Duke Tobin sitting there if he

1004
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 7: works for me, and I go, hey, Duke, Duke, why

1005
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 7: can't you fix this?

1006
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: You're not a private well now it's.

1007
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 7: Your defense, And I go, Duke, why can't you fix this?

1008
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 7: If you sit in front of your boss and he

1009
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 7: or she keeps asking you, why does this keep happening?

1010
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 7: Why can't you fix this? At some point your boss

1011
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 7: is going to tell you we're gonna find somebody else.

1012
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 7: Why doesn't that happen with Duke Tobin?

1013
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: Tony Pike told me that beginning today, the offensive team

1014
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: is banning the defensive team from the Bengals locker room.

1015
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: They will not associate with them. They don't want to

1016
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: look at them and the defense. Shamar Stewart and Miles

1017
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Murphy have a special at the Pancake House in Montgomery.

1018
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: Really the pancake specials. I've seen a montage of Shamar Stewart,

1019
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: the guy who was the defensive end from Texas A

1020
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: and m that guy he's a pancake several times with

1021
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: a big fat offensive lineman. Squad are on top of him,

1022
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: and Miles Murphy want any better? And so is there?

1023
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Would you have a pancake special at the original Pancake

1024
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: House of Montgomery? Would you have the Stewart, Shamar Stewart

1025
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: and the Miles Murphy special for pancakes?

1026
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 7: That sounds great. Pancakes sound awesome? Right now, Let's get

1027
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 7: who they're named after.

1028
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Let's get it.

1029
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 7: Those are just a couple of players, Miles Murphy and

1030
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 7: Miles Murphy was drafted in the first round in twenty

1031
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 7: twenty three.

1032
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: He's ready, He's ready.

1033
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 7: You and I have talked about this, Willie, He's ready.

1034
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 7: This is a league, especially when you have a high

1035
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 7: paid quarterback. This is this is a league about superstars

1036
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 7: and cheap talent, right, inexpensive cheap leaves just like here

1037
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 7: at this radio station, very much like here at the

1038
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 7: radio station. So the Bengals have stars who are getting

1039
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 7: paid a lot of money. By the way, one of them, yesterday,

1040
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 7: t Higgins was awesome, better than this awesome. You have

1041
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 7: to get immediate impact from your draft choices, especially your

1042
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: first round picks.

1043
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: But in three years, yeah, nothing that hasn't happened. Do

1044
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: you want to hear some facts? Of course I do.

1045
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: When was the last time a starting quarterback in the

1046
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: NFL through for four hundred and seventy yards that the

1047
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: team recovered a fumble? That shall we say on the

1048
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: inside kick? That the opening kick went for ninety five

1049
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown, that two wide receivers had over

1050
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: one hundred yards each, That the quarterback throws for four touchdowns,

1051
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: they block a field goal, and they score forty two

1052
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: points and lost. When was the last time that happened?

1053
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: It happened yesterday? Oh, I'm sorry, either of nineteen sixty six,

1054
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: your friend New York Giants and the Green Bay Packers,

1055
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: and you won't recall that. And of course this is

1056
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: a record of that's fifty nine years of ineptitude.

1057
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: So since Week three of last year, so that's the

1058
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 7: last fifteen games of last season that's run, and then

1059
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 7: nine games this year, twenty four games.

1060
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

1061
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 7: In one quarter of those games, the Bengals have scored

1062
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 7: more than thirty and lost again. In their last twenty

1063
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 7: four games down there have been six, six times the

1064
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 7: Bengals offensively have scored thirty or more and have lost.

1065
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 7: And what a quarter in one quarter of their game

1066
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 7: one courter and they lost. So the last week three

1067
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 7: last year against Washington, they scored thirty three points and lost.

1068
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 7: So that to yesterday, that's a span of twenty four games.

1069
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 7: Pretty good run in six of them. Does Mike Brown

1070
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 7: know this? I'm sure he does. In six of them

1071
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 7: they have scored more than thirty and lost. If that

1072
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 7: happens twice during that stretch, that's a lot.

1073
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Panic. It's happened to this team six times. Panic.

1074
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 7: They've changed defensive coordinators. They really haven't changed the players.

1075
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 7: Where's your low?

1076
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: The person in.

1077
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 7: Charge of constructing the roster is Duke Tobin twenty five years,

1078
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 7: is been doing. He is the one that looked at

1079
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 7: the secondary last year's secondary and literally added nobody.

1080
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: They didn't look good.

1081
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 7: They didn't draft a safety, they didn't draft a corner.

1082
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Do they have an NBA problem? I have no idea.

1083
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: I had more than one tweet talking about the three

1084
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: defenders surrounding number eighty four. You me and Tony could

1085
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: have tackled that guy.

1086
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 7: I know, low, you go high. All you got to

1087
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 7: do is get him to the ground. So the frustrating

1088
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 7: thing is you knew what was gonna happen. You knew

1089
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 7: what the Bengals scored. You know, Aam Taylor, the previous

1090
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 7: driver or two drives prior got crushed on social media

1091
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 7: for the challenge where ultimately gave Chicago a touchdown, and

1092
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 7: I thought, what's the worst that can happen? You're just

1093
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: gonna hasten the inevitable because you know the Bengals defense

1094
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 7: is going to give up scores when the game is

1095
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 7: hanging in the back a lot. It has been the

1096
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 7: case now for a while, and the longer it persists,

1097
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 7: the less trustworthy this organization is that they're going to

1098
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 7: figure out, like, you've got to start from scratch with

1099
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 7: next year's defense. We're not supposed to be starting from

1100
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 7: scratch during the Joe Burrow era.

1101
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: How do you tackle somebody?

1102
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 7: We're supposed to be competing for championships in the Joe

1103
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 7: Burrow era? Are you competing for championships if you're starting

1104
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 7: from scratch? The answer is no, So.

1105
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: What do you do? You're now Duke Tobin, Mike Brown,

1106
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: Katie Burnt, Blackburn Brown, your Troy Blackburn Brown, You're Paul H. Brown,

1107
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: You're all the Browns. It's a mom and pop operation

1108
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: worth billions of dollars, by the way I read online. Yeah,

1109
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: big game on Saturday with Ohio State and Penn State.

1110
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Lots of NFL talent, would you agree? Tons who didn't

1111
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: send a scout to that game? So the Bengals not correct?

1112
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 7: If I'm Paul, Katie, Troy, Elizabeth, Carolyn, Paul H. Whoever

1113
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 7: at all, and I'm sitting there with Duke Tobin, we're

1114
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 7: asking the simple question, why haven't you been able to

1115
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: fix this? And why should I trust you to fix

1116
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 7: something that you haven't up able?

1117
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't talk at all?

1118
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 7: Right, Oftentimes during a bye week, the personnel person for

1119
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 7: a professional football team will be available. He's never available.

1120
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: He's available at the scouting combine, which he should be,

1121
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 7: and they make him available during the mock Turtle Soup

1122
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: thing where everybody asked Mike Brown question questions maybe you

1123
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 7: and I should go to that, and so, to a degree,

1124
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 7: I feel bad for Zach Taylor, and trust me, Zach

1125
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 7: is is not somebody who's absolved of blaming here, but

1126
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 7: he is the spokesperson for the franchise, and I think

1127
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 7: to a degree the spokesperson for things is in tears.

1128
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 7: I'm not sure he's completely responsible.

1129
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: For who's more likely to hold a news conference at

1130
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: four o'clock today, Aftab pureval Are, Duke Tobin.

1131
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question. I'm gonna say Aftab

1132
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 7: really yeah, because.

1133
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: He's under eight and one plumbers. He's not talking. But

1134
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: after seven people shot yesterday and he's under he's holder.

1135
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: And I thought I thought putting the police chief on

1136
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 7: administrative leave was going to solve that.

1137
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: You're making no sense at all.

1138
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 7: Oh, I thought they were gonna put the chief on

1139
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 7: leave and all the crime was gonna it's acting.

1140
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, So you didn't answer my question.

1141
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: How many of the people who shot others this weekend

1142
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 7: were out only low bond all of them, including well,

1143
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 7: you know the dude who broke into my house, he's

1144
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 7: on bonders. Anne Hathaway just let him walk, just no

1145
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 7: bond at all when they arrested that.

1146
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I judge Hathaway did. I helped to get into law school.

1147
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 7: Alie Hachaway just used to work here. Just let him

1148
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 7: walk when he got arrested. So you know it's a

1149
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 7: criminal defense attorney. You like to hear this guy? I can,

1150
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 7: I can certainly, I can certainly speak from experience.

1151
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: I talked to the Magic Man about this. You want

1152
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: to get your cases in front of Judge Hathaway and

1153
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: criminal defense lawyers do that. Fortunately, Judge Gearing did hear that.

1154
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 7: Did do the trials for both guys who busted into

1155
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 7: my house, and he took care of him, and Hathaway

1156
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 7: not so much. Well that's your friend anyway. You right,

1157
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 7: no problem with Anne until they're all who busted in

1158
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 7: my house? I hey here, fine, you want to go

1159
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 7: home for dinner? Goes God reparative justice not for you,

1160
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 7: but for the Criminalso.

1161
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: Tooba's not going to talk today.

1162
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 7: How about to Tap Pure of All is not going

1163
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 7: to talk today, and Hathaway's not going to talk today.

1164
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: Mike Brown's not going to talk today. Are you talking?

1165
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got a lot on my mind.

1166
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: All right. Secondly, I'm glad you brought this up. I

1167
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: could talk about FC who got hammered. I could talk

1168
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: about you see I got hammered. I could talk about

1169
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: Deer Park High school. I got hammered. But when number

1170
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: eighty four yesterday about four point thirty ran into the.

1171
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: End zone for the Bear, I didn't even make this connection.

1172
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: I make connections you don't. Yes, I thought about Bob Trumpy,

1173
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: your memories of the great Trumpster.

1174
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 7: Godfather, excuse me, godfather of sports talk in this town.

1175
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 7: The first time I was ever asked to do six

1176
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 7: to nine on this radio station, I said, Holy hell,

1177
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 7: I get a chance to fill in on the show

1178
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 7: that Bob Trumpy hosted created, And as far as I'm concerned,

1179
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 7: you know is since it's been Chris Collinsworth and Andy

1180
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 7: Furman and Paul Doherty and Lance McAllister and awesome host

1181
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 7: Tom Gamble and Tom Gamble, it's still Bob Trumpy Show

1182
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 7: and always will be, even though he hasn't hosted it

1183
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 7: on a regular basis in thirty five years. Here's my

1184
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 7: favorite part of Bob Trumpy. So in two thousand, we

1185
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 7: got the radio rights back and they were trying to

1186
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 7: figure out what the coverage was going.

1187
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: To be, like, who was gonna do what Mike Brown said?

1188
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: Forgot about Bob Trumpy.

1189
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 7: So we got Trumpy. We hired Bob Trumpy back to

1190
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 7: do two things. He did a show on Thursdays with Boomerisiasin,

1191
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 7: and they got Bob to do a segment on the

1192
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 7: pregame show, the Countdown to Kickoff Show, where he would

1193
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 7: talk with the other team's head coach. And so at

1194
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 7: the time, I was working in the morning with Jim

1195
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 7: and I was told, hey, we need you to record

1196
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 7: this segment every week with Bob Trumpy. And what's gonna

1197
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 7: happen is Trump's gonna call you and he's gonna tell

1198
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 7: you what time he's going to interview the coach of

1199
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 7: whatever team the Bengals are playing. So the first week,

1200
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 7: they played the Cleveland Browns and I think Chris Palmer

1201
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: was the head coach. But Bob Trump he calls me.

1202
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 7: I had never spoken to him. I'd never talked to him,

1203
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 7: but I was told like, hey, we know you like

1204
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 7: to mess with people, Mo, you really can't screw around

1205
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 7: with Bob Trumpy. So Trump calls and he's like, and

1206
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 7: again I think it was Chris Palmer, but he goes,

1207
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 7: Chris Palmer is gonna call the studio between one and

1208
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 7: four thirty on Wednesday, I'll see you there. And then

1209
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 7: the next week it was like Bill Belichick or somebody.

1210
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 7: It was like Bill Belichick is gonna call Thursday between

1211
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 7: two and five, or Jeff Fisher is gonna call us

1212
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 7: on Wednesday between eleven am and fours like the cableman.

1213
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 7: So every week, like Judge Hathaway, Monday would call. Bob

1214
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 7: would call me on Monday and tell me. This was

1215
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 7: for four years, tell me which coach you know, you

1216
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 7: knew which coach it was gonna be, Hey, this coach

1217
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 7: is gonna call. And it was always in this large window.

1218
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 7: So in Mount Adams we had a studio studio KA,

1219
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 7: which was like the studio where they took all the

1220
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 7: really old equipment and you just said, so, Bob and

1221
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 7: I would sit in this studio for hours on end.

1222
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 7: He'd be chainsmoking cigarettes I know, and right, I mean

1223
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 7: the guy I know, you know, and you would tell

1224
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 7: him like, I'm not sure, okay, fine, I'll keep that

1225
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 7: in mind. So for four months, every week, usually on Wednesdays,

1226
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 7: I would sit in a room just like this one,

1227
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 7: just me and Trump, and it occurred, you know what,

1228
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 7: this is the greatest ever at.

1229
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: What I want to do.

1230
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 7: Maybe it would behoove me to start like talking to

1231
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 7: this guy and get him to tell stories, and so

1232
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 7: it became the favorite, My favorite part of my week,

1233
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 7: sitting in a room for three or four hours waiting

1234
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 7: for the phone ring, And the best part is when

1235
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 7: the coach would call. Bob would talk to the coach

1236
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 7: off the record for twenty minutes, and he would never

1237
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 7: let me hit record until it was time to record,

1238
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 7: And so I would listen to Bob Trump, he talked

1239
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 7: to Bill Cower, Bill Belichick, all these coaches off the

1240
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 7: record about their teams, about god knows what. He was

1241
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 7: still doing games for Westwood One on Sunday nights.

1242
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: He was still back.

1243
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 7: Was wonderful and it was my favorite part of the

1244
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 7: week where I would listen to Bob talk to these coaches,

1245
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 7: the on the record stuff that we recorded. Who cares

1246
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 7: it was all the stuff they talked about off air.

1247
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 7: And then in the hours leading up to that, just

1248
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 7: hanging out with Bob, getting him to tell stories, picking

1249
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 7: his brain, making fun of him, him, making fun of me,

1250
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 7: enjoying that laugh that he had, which Chris Collinsworth talked

1251
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 7: about on TV last night.

1252
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: He's just the best. He is just the absolute best.

1253
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: He lived a good life in his long life and

1254
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: he was a great football player. NBC Olympics and also

1255
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: the NFL and also the Masters and more. But thank

1256
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: you for breaking down the fact that Duke Tobin is

1257
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: doing a great job. We need more of this. And

1258
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

1259
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 7: And by the way, they should have had the Ring

1260
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 7: of Honor years ago so Bob could be in while

1261
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 7: he was alive.

1262
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: Same thing, same thing I've said it often give roses

1263
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: to the living spill Cunningham seven hundred ww. Listen.

1264
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: One thing that helps me a great deal, and there's

1265
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: no denying this. Working for NBC and doing football games

1266
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: is helps me im miserably. As an example, and I

1267
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: don't mean to drop names, but just to give you

1268
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 4: an example of what happened to me over the weekend.

1269
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: Last Friday, I talked for forty five minutes with Pete Rose,

1270
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: which will appear on Headfirst. Flew to Los Angeles. As

1271
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 4: soon as I got to Los Angeles, we got in

1272
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: the car and drove to Oxnard, California, which is where

1273
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Raiders work out. I talked with Al

1274
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: Davis for three hours. I talked with Tom Floyes for

1275
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 4: an hour and a half said Lord to Lyle Alzaio.

1276
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: Chris Barr talked to Jim Plunkett, and I'm not dropping names.

1277
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you this is the nature of my business. Yeah,

1278
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 4: this is the nature of my business. Yeah, this is

1279
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 4: the nature of my business. So you hear opinions from

1280
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: other people. That was Friday. Saturday. I get up, walk

1281
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: down to the Hyatt Regency in downtown Los Angeles. I

1282
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: have a cup of coffee with Don Shula, talk to

1283
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: him for about an hour and a half, shoot the breeze,

1284
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: get out to the ballpark. I spoke with Danny Thomas.

1285
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: He was at the game and had just seen Don Kraik.

1286
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: Can I do a broadcast and shot the breeze with

1287
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: him for a little bit. I talk with Al Lokasal

1288
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: Paul Zimmerman. I saw last weekend of Sports Illustrated. So

1289
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: the people I come in contact with are my biggest

1290
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: source of information. I listen more than I talk. When

1291
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: I travel here, I talk on the air, I talk,

1292
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: but all the rest of the time I do an

1293
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: awful lot of listening.

1294
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Hello, quiet and I'm Scots. I'm broadcasting and by the way,

1295
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: segment I am coming up after two o'clock, your friend

1296
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: Ken Kober of the Police Union responding to your buddy

1297
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Iris Rowlie and her on tourage. She was like a

1298
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: rock star walking around and an entourage. This sounds like

1299
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: a mess. And segment also before they're finding guns on

1300
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: the side of the road, right, where'd that come from?

1301
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 7: Don't know?

1302
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Guns? Where seven people were shot, and Iris Roli says

1303
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: she has lots of work to do. Iteg before you start,

1304
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: I want to say this also, you said this off

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Speaker 1: the air. Between nineteen eighty four and nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: it was Jim Scott, then Mike McConnell ten to three right,

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00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: and then Gary from three to six right, then Trumpy

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: six to nine, slash Collinsworth slash Furman correct, then nine

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Speaker 1: to one, and then nine to midnight was me right,

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00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: then the truck and Bozo Dale summers until six o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the morning, start all over again for those sixteen years.

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00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: Not a bad lineup, excellent, And then I went to middays.

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Speaker 1: Then I went to Jim Scott, Mike McConnell, Bill Cunningham,

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: Gary Burbank, still Collinsworth, Trumpy, then Scott Sloan, then the

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Speaker 1: Truck and Bozo also got a bad lineup, would you agree? Correct?

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: Now get into it. Before you get into it, I

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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: want to review a little bit what happened Friday, Saturday,

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00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Sunday at Are you prepared? Go ahead? Wasn't good? Before

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: you get into it. Yeah, my dear parm Cincinnati. It's

1320
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: nothing about the past, nothing about the futures. Right now

1321
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: we're tramps Cincinnati. Guess who has the game with North

1322
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Carolina this Saturday on the CW. Don't tell me it's

1323
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Rocky Boyman Tom Brenneman. I want to talk to Tom.

1324
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: One of my great fans, Tim Meltzner. Yes, who's in

1325
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: delphas close to Anna?

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 7: Anna?

1327
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 6: Over?

1328
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: The Rockets played Friday night Deer Park. Sure did so?

1329
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Like Anna is a woman beat up on the park.

1330
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I have a clip of the scoreboard sent by this

1331
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Meltner character, fifty four to fifteen deer Park not on top. Well,

1332
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: you know what, at least they made it, will he?

1333
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: You know? Unlike Cole Raine correct Saturday. Many other teams

1334
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: didn't make it either. The Bearcats Saturday night, I had

1335
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot at landed the Utes ass kicking in Salt

1336
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: Lake City. I was like forty five to fourteen but

1337
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: then I had hope for Sunday. I do with with

1338
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: a minute to go, then we'll talk about that in

1339
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: a moment. Then Sunday night. Yeah, FC goes to Colion

1340
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: of the crew. Correct, and uh, there were twenty shots

1341
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: on goal by both teams in the entire game for nil.

1342
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: And guess what, FC Cincinnati had one shot on goal

1343
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: and that was it. And by the way, yeah, this

1344
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Delphis character who's sending me this negative information? Metner? If

1345
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying that correctly, I'm not sure. I think it's Metner.

1346
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: I want to take pictures if we played basketball against

1347
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: that woman named Anna, what happens there? Seg Now get

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Speaker 1: me into the STUDI report. Please will he the Stuode

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Speaker 1: northern Kentucky cal Johnson Heating and Cooling at eight five

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Speaker 1: nine four seven two sixty fifty one sports. Thank you, Roxy.

1353
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Let's see Willie. Also, it's that time of the season,

1354
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: what is it right around corner of the holidays are

1355
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: coming up Thanksgiving and you need to get on the

1356
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: wist Tree program celebrating forty one years forty one. Uh, though,

1357
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: if you want a tree to help out your community,

1358
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Speaker 1: let's get it done. Five one three eight five two

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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety five. Get it done five one three eight

1360
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: five two eighteen ninety five, or or email the Wiz

1361
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Speaker 1: Tree program the Wish the wis Tree program at gmail,

1362
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Segment can help out to help out others.

1363
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: On the Bengals, I put on my ex account and

1364
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: uh a certain picture which you can see right here.

1365
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: They have three Bengals surrounding one guy. That is mister

1366
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Colston Leonard, the rookie Bob Trump. He's number eighty four.

1367
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Speaker 1: What were the odds of those three guys in that

1368
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: pick right there not tackling. All they had to do

1369
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Speaker 1: was knock him down at the game right They can't

1370
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Speaker 1: do it? No, they bounced off of him like a

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: rubber ball, and then mister Leonard ran ran into for

1372
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: the touchdown with seventeen seconds to go to crush Bengals

1373
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: Nation Tony second week in a row that the defensive

1374
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: team has been banished from the locker room. They're gonna

1375
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: dress for the next two weeks. Visiting reports are that

1376
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: the I guess the media tried to talk to various

1377
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: defensive players yesterday. They laughed and said we'll see you Monday,

1378
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: and walked out. How about Ivy lines up on a

1379
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: field goal attempt by the Bears offside? Thank you? He

1380
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: misses the field goal, they get five yards, Bears go

1381
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: down and score seven. What about Ivy? The defensive team

1382
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: is laughing at their performance. Do you think there's a

1383
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: cultural problem inside that locker room? Zach zach Schula? How

1384
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: bad is it? Something's wrong? Willy because of another excruciating loss.

1385
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Say that the Bengals have allowed twenty seven or more

1386
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: points in eight consecutive games. They missed fifteen tackles yesterday

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Speaker 1: for additional one hundred and thirty three yards. Last three weeks,

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: they've allowed one hundred and nineteen points and nearly fifteen

1389
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards. They're the doors they're going to. They're going

1390
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Speaker 1: into the bye week, then, Pittsburgh. Let's see more tonight

1391
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: on Bengals line. Let's hear it all, six oh five,

1392
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: get it done. The Bengals are still asking for a

1393
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: first round pick in any deal deal for Trey Hendrix

1394
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: saf he can't play. The tray deadline is tomorrow at

1395
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: four o'clo can't play well. I don't know what to tight.

1396
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: You should we trade Joe Burrow but he can't play either.

1397
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: He's hurt. I'm sorry, I can't play. Let's see soccer.

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Columbus Routes FC Cincinnati four nil. What did I say

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Speaker 1: to you on Friday? On Monday afternoon? Yeah, we're gonna

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01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: sit here. Right, You've got deer Park against uh Anna,

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01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: the Rockets, got the bear Cats against the Utes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got the Bengalleys against the Bears. Right, we have

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 1: FC against the Crew. Yep, let's go two out of four,

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01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: maybe three out of four? What happened?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: For four? Who played worse? Deer Park High School, the Bearcats,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals or FC, all of them? Decisive? Game three

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01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: is Saturday night, six o'clock at TQL Stadium. Good luck,

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Speaker 1: that's uh you know, had no shots on FC. If

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: you can't shoot at the goal, you can't score, right,

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01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: uh so one and the other team had nineteen shots

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01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: on goal and made four. College basketball opens up tonight,

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Speaker 1: Bearcats against Western Carolina six thirty seven under WLW Mariston

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Speaker 1: Xavior centas center six forty five fifty five KRC. Here

1415
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: we go NKU and UC Claremont six thirty on the project.

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Did you like Irish Rollie and her entourage? I did

1417
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: not see her. It was like a rock star. She

1418
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: wanted to meet you. No, she didn't. Old Dominion up

1419
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: against the Miami RedHawks, Canisius and Dayton, Ohio State, and

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01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: IU Indianapolis. Franklin meets Wright State in Louisville takes on

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina State. Seke up against the clock. Please give

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Speaker 1: me out of the students report, and I want to

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: let the American people know now at one o seven,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry two oh seven and today Ken Kober, the

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Speaker 1: sergeant of CPD, responds to Irish Rowlie, whoa by the way,

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Speaker 1: she wants to do a podcast with me. Will you

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Speaker 1: and I have a beautiful day here at the Tri

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: State and just somebody went around here? Will you we

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Speaker 1: leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge report?

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Speaker 4: Nope?

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Speaker 1: Comments is that Duke Tobin he's not talking. No, nobody

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Speaker 1: is an unnamed Bengal official right there. Well, do you

1433
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: think they owe us an explanation for the team they

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Speaker 1: put together on defense and need to do something? No comments?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well they're they're not talking us to pr

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Speaker 1: director for the Bengals, Sea wouldn't want to be on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred w W more of the Bengals debacle and

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: Sports Park the first of all, for those who named

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Speaker 1: a listening, it will be on the on the podcast

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Speaker 1: quite soon. My interview with Iris Rowley, who's the shall

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Speaker 1: we say a collaborator. My first question of her was,

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Speaker 1: how can you collaborate with a part of the collaborative,

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: which is the Cincinnati Police a thousand members strong, when

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: the police union believes that you're wrongfully interfering with the

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: rest on the street and that's somehow they don't want

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: to collaborate with you. In fact, they've had to vote

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Speaker 1: of no confidence or something of that character. Joining you

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Speaker 1: and I now is Ken Kober, who's the president of

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Speaker 1: Queen City Lodge sixty nine, which is the police union

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Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati, about nine hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: members strong. And Ken Kober a sergeant. Welcome again to

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Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. Can you answer the question about

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01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: whether or not Irish Rowley, in her official capacity, interfered

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Speaker 1: with an arrest and then what came of that, if anything?

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Speaker 10: Actually she did twice, you know those videos, of course

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Speaker 10: got out on social media about that officers are frustrated.

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Speaker 1: They're frustrated that it was going on.

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Speaker 10: And I had a conversation with Iris and explain to

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Speaker 10: her that you're lucky you didn't get arrested, and you

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Speaker 10: will likely come across the wrong officers or the right

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Speaker 10: officers that are going to make that decision, and it

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Speaker 10: would likely be bad for you. So luckily, it seems

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Speaker 10: like she is quieted down. Obviously, I haven't got any

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Speaker 10: reports of her interfering with officers lately, which is good and.

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Speaker 1: That's not her job. But nonetheless, also coming from that,

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Speaker 1: she said, the media reported that after Purival, who right

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Speaker 1: now this Monday afternoon is hunting out somewhere under a

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Speaker 1: cavern under eight oh one Plum Street until tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: that he was going to speak to her, give her

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Speaker 1: a talking to about what should do and what not do,

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Speaker 1: and she kind of denied that occurred too. Is that

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Speaker 1: you're understanding the mayor or the city manager's share a

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Speaker 1: long spoke to her about interfering with police arrest Is

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Speaker 1: that your understanding?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I talked to the city manager directly,

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Speaker 10: and she said that she would be having a conversation

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Speaker 10: with Iris explain to the city manager that if that

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Speaker 10: happens again, the next officer is likely going to arrest her,

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Speaker 10: and the city manager indicated that she understood and that

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Speaker 10: she would be having a conversation with her to correct

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Speaker 10: this baby and.

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Speaker 1: Iris really would not confirm that took place, nor confirm

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Speaker 1: whether or not she was told what not to do.

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Speaker 1: How did you feel about a week or two ago

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Speaker 1: when she was given a contract extension I think it

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Speaker 1: was three years, about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1487
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Speaker 1: to consult with the city. How did that make you feel.

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01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: We know the city waste money, unfortunately on a lot

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Speaker 1: of things.

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Speaker 10: As far as I'm concerned, as long as she stays

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Speaker 10: out of the operations of the police, I don't care

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Speaker 10: what they I don't care what they pay her for,

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Speaker 10: and I don't care what she does as long as

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Speaker 10: she's not out interfering with officers.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I told her off there. Look, if somebody

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Speaker 1: offers you or me or ken Kober one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a year to do no work, no

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Speaker 1: show up job, simply to every now and then go

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Speaker 1: to government Square, most of us would take the job anyway,

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Speaker 1: not a bad gig. As far as the central point,

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Speaker 1: Ken Kober step it back from this, and I made

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Speaker 1: the point to her that there's numerous police agencies just

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Speaker 1: in Hamilton County. I think there's fifteen or eighteen something

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Speaker 1: like that, Sharonville, Madeira, Green Township, fair Factor. There's lots

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Speaker 1: of police agencies. None of them have a collaborative and

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: none of them have someone like Irish Roly keeping an

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Speaker 1: eye on the cops. None of them have federal court supervision.

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Speaker 1: And so I asked her, is something unique about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: cops that have had black police chiefs, black captains, black

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Speaker 1: city managers, black mayor that somehow in the city of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: the cops in Cincinnati are more racist than cops everywhere

1512
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: else in Hamilton County, much less the dry state. And

1513
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: she set off paraphrase, Well, they need supervision too, they

1514
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: need help. Is that you're understanding, you've been there twenty

1515
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: five or thirty years that Cincinnati police have a racial

1516
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: bias or prejudice against black people.

1517
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 10: No, they absolutely did not, and it's been time and

1518
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 10: time again that they don't. And you know, you understand

1519
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 10: that this collaborative agreement This is all now voluntary. The

1520
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 10: city doesn't have to abide by it. There's no court order,

1521
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 10: there's nothing. They just continue to go by what they've

1522
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 10: gone for you know, the last twenty four years.

1523
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 7: Now.

1524
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: For those listening around the nation, what does the collaborative

1525
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: specifically do that the loss of an Irish really would hurt.

1526
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: What does it actually do for the men and women

1527
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: in blue in the city of Cincinnati.

1528
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 5: I don't think it does anything really to help.

1529
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 10: In fact, you know, there is a belief out there

1530
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 10: that the Collaborative agreement could be holding back the police

1531
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 10: department from progressing further. I'm not saying that it's a

1532
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 10: bad idea necessarily to have it, but I certainly think

1533
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 10: that there should be opportunity for it to be tweaked.

1534
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: But you know, it's all about community policing.

1535
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 10: Which we've done anyway. You know, a good beat officer

1536
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 10: knows everybody on their beat. That is community policing in

1537
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 10: its rawlest form. So you know, something that we're just

1538
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 10: volunteering to abide by, it doesn't It doesn't make a

1539
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 10: whole lot of sense. But I also really could care less.

1540
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: Are you saying the city would be better off without

1541
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: the collaborative.

1542
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 10: I think they should look at how it can be

1543
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 10: tweaked to progress this police officer, this police department further.

1544
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: That is what I think.

1545
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 5: Do I care if it doesn't matter like so, we

1546
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 5: followed this for twenty four years now.

1547
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 10: No, they do it voluntarily, but I certainly think there

1548
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 10: would be an opportunity to see if we could progress

1549
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 10: this police department further.

1550
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: About a month or two ago, when she interfered with

1551
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 1: the first or second arrest, which by the way, is

1552
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: a crime, and if a normal citizen had done exactly

1553
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: the factual acts of virus rely they would have been

1554
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: charged without question. But because at one point she said,

1555
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: do you know who I am? Do you know who

1556
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: I am? Didn't she say that in one of the

1557
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice events? Absolutely? What did the officer say

1558
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: when she said you know who I am? I am

1559
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: went to the officer of the female cop, do so,

1560
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm well aware of who you are? Because and then

1561
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: she had to be careful. The message was you got

1562
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: to be careful, careful because this is iris Roley. You

1563
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: got to be careful. And you might recall when that

1564
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: happened and the FOP did you issue on the fop's part.

1565
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: Was it a condemnation, was it a reprimand was it

1566
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: a suggestion she'd be fired? What action did the FOP

1567
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: take against Iris Roley.

1568
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 10: I actually filed a complaint with Central HR, which I

1569
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 10: was then told that, well, we're not even going to

1570
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 10: investigate this because she's not an employee, although there are

1571
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 10: part of the administrative regulations that say if you are

1572
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 10: a contractor, you have to abide by the same rules

1573
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 10: that a city employee does, and they just they refused

1574
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 10: even investigated.

1575
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: So they said we're not going to so politically that

1576
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: the city knew not to investigate Irish Rowley. Is that

1577
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: fair to say? Absolutely?

1578
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 4: Now.

1579
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: One of the events that happened and after you and

1580
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: the police said we can't have this, is that there

1581
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: was some question whether the contract was going to be renewed,

1582
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: and so Iris Rowley called out the Blackfist and other

1583
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: so called left wing civil rights groups to protest on

1584
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: the steps of city Hall, to send a message to

1585
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: the mayor and to share along. You know what this

1586
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: has got a downside was that an implicit threat by

1587
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: the Blackfist that there'd be difficulties in the city unless

1588
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: they renewed her contract.

1589
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 5: I think one could certainly believe that that absolutely was

1590
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 5: the case.

1591
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: As far as moving forward, I understand that you may

1592
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: be leaving in a year or two and you're either

1593
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: going to age out or retire out to say I

1594
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore is the city and you've been

1595
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: there for twenty five or thirty years since the collaborative began.

1596
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: I think, like in twenty oh two or something like that.

1597
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: How much more professional is CPD today than it was

1598
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty years ago.

1599
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 10: Oh, I think the police department has grown a lot.

1600
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 10: There's been a lot of positive changes that have been made.

1601
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 10: Like I said, I'm not saying that that this is

1602
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 10: a bad thing, but I do think that it could

1603
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 10: be holding the police department back. But yeah, I mean,

1604
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 10: there's no doubt that we continue to progress as a

1605
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 10: police department constantly. You know, it's a different department even

1606
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 10: from five years ago, and that's because of the work

1607
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 10: of the people that are there. The cops are absolutely fantastic,

1608
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 10: but if you always have to be trying to become

1609
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 10: a better police officer and a better police department.

1610
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: Was the thiji I called her discharge the odds era

1611
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 1: coming back. It's about the same odds of segment Dennis

1612
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: and dunkin of basketball on a ten foot high court

1613
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. She's gone. Russin. One of the officers

1614
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: involved with Thiji told me that Irish really told them

1615
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: that the chief of police should not be fired. And

1616
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: is that you're understanding that the Thiji is not coming

1617
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 1: back and that it appears that her days are numbered.

1618
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: I was told by a little birdie when she was

1619
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: in Denver her days are in single digits. She's not

1620
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: going to make it. And that's enraged a whole bunch

1621
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: of people. So is there a sense that if Henny's involved,

1622
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: what are your feelings about Captain Adam Henny, who's now

1623
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: the arm Chief being the chief of police going forward.

1624
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 10: Well, I can tell you, first of all, it would

1625
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 10: not surprise me if she doesn't come back, and quite honestly,

1626
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 10: after the way she's been treated, I wouldn't want to

1627
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 10: come back if I was her, I would want to

1628
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 10: get whatever severance I can get and just go away

1629
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 10: and go and enjoy my retirement because it's absolutely just

1630
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 10: shameful the way she was treated. Now, going to Colonel Henney,

1631
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 10: I actually worked for him in the Central Business section.

1632
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 10: He is an absolute fantastic leader, you know. But it

1633
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 10: all comes down to is city Hall going to allow

1634
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 10: him to do the things that he needs to do

1635
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 10: to get this police department where it needs to be.

1636
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 10: And that's that's what's you have to be seen, you know.

1637
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 10: But you could say the same thing for Chief Fiji.

1638
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 10: If she was allowed to run the apartment the way

1639
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 10: she saw fit and not be influenced by city Hall,

1640
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 10: I think we probably would have a different police department.

1641
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see moving forward how it works out with

1642
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: Colonel Henney. A little Bertie told me that the line

1643
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: officers who investigated the matters of July twenty sixth, especially

1644
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: about Alex Shrevinsky. A Bertie told me that the line

1645
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: officers who did the investigation did not want to file

1646
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: criminal charges. And in fact I was also told that

1647
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: Thiji as the chief, would not sign on the dotted

1648
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: line that the officer believed that a crime was committed

1649
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: by Alex Servinsky against the future criminal defendants. Is it

1650
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: true to the best year knowledge that Captain Henny, now

1651
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: the interim chief, is the one who signed the charges

1652
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: against Alex Shrevinsky as the innocent white person charged. Is

1653
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: that your understanding?

1654
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

1655
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 5: Ordered by the city solicitor to city solicitor to sign

1656
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 5: the charges.

1657
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: Did Emily smart Warner, who's the city solicitor, to your knowledge,

1658
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: did she do any factual investigation at all to form

1659
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: the basis of filling criminal charges against an innocent person?

1660
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: Did she actually personally do any investigation? Not that I'm

1661
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: aware of, but the line officers said, don't do it.

1662
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 1: So when we had the city leaders lemon Kearney and

1663
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: others stand up and say we want a white person

1664
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: to be charged, did the city council members and the

1665
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: so called civil rights community at that point know that

1666
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: the charges were false because the three CDC tape showed

1667
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: that the first person that threw the first punch was

1668
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: a black male who hit Alex t in the back

1669
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: of the head twice. Did the city fathers and mothers

1670
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: know that when they demanded the city charges be filed

1671
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: against Stravinsky they alleged white guy.

1672
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 10: There was certain video that they refused to watch, which

1673
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 10: would have been that video that showed what actually occurred.

1674
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 5: And you know, it wasn't just the officers that said

1675
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 5: we shouldn't sign these charges.

1676
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 10: This went to the prosecutor's office and they said, you're right,

1677
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 10: don't sign these charges. Somehow, then city hall gets involved

1678
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 10: and they ordered to sign have them signed charges.

1679
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,440
Speaker 1: When you say the prosecutor's office, you mean Connie Pillag.

1680
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 5: The city and county prosecutor's office.

1681
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: So Connie Pillage, how many county prosecutor said, no, we're

1682
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: not going to charge this guy because of the color

1683
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: of his skin. We're going to charge based upon merit

1684
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: and based upon the facts. So Connie Pillag, how many

1685
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: county prosecutor, the city solicitor, the city prosecutor's office, not

1686
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: the solicitor. The city prosecutor said, don't do it. The

1687
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: line officer said, don't do it. Thiji said don't do it.

1688
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: But then the city solicitor, Emily smart Warner got involved

1689
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: and said, file criminal charges against a person because of

1690
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: the color of their skin, even though the facts don't

1691
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: indicate it. Is that accurate? If those are the facts

1692
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: as I knowed them, right then, lastly, I spoke to

1693
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: an official and the Department of Justice who said this

1694
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: amount being investigated as a civil rights violation. So those

1695
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: involved in this decision proudly stood up like a tenfold

1696
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: beacon in the night and said, bring in the cameras,

1697
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: bring in the microphones. As the city leaders, we're going

1698
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: to state we want a white person charged with a crime.

1699
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: And it happened. And when you live in a city

1700
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: or a state or anywhere in America and civil authorities

1701
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: say we want a person charged because of the color

1702
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: of their skin, how wrong is that?

1703
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 5: That's absolutely wrong. Anytime you have politics that are meddling

1704
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 5: and policing, you know we have this. We have bad

1705
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 5: decisions that are made not off of fact, but off

1706
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 5: of feeling, off of what are ever political motivation.

1707
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: It's absolutely wrong. And lastly, Ken Kober, Chief, I'm sorry

1708
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: the head of the union. I'll put another log on

1709
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: the fire. Last week I had on attorney Doug Brannon,

1710
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: who the attorney for Alex Stravinsky, and the discovery given

1711
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: to him by the city Prosecutor's office. They did not

1712
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 1: include the three c DC tape that showed Alex t

1713
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: did not start the fight. They did not put that

1714
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: in there. He said. The first time I saw it

1715
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: was last night on Fox nineteen, and I said, well,

1716
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: obviously the charges will be dismissed at some point soon

1717
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 1: he said, I'm sure what's going to happen after the election.

1718
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: We're going to get the tape from three c DC

1719
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: that showed Alex t did not originate anything. He was

1720
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: a victim from the get go. How does that make

1721
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: you feel when the US Department of Justice is looking

1722
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: at criminal charges against the mayor, the vice mayor and

1723
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: others including Emily Smart and Warner and I guess chief

1724
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: of police now Henny are being looked at criminally by

1725
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: the US Department of Justice for filing criminal charges against

1726
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: the person because of the color of their skin.

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 10: Well, you know, somebody's got to investigate this to determine

1728
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 10: if any laws had been broken.

1729
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's all part of this process. Yes, I

1730
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: certainly welcome this. Isn't it a crime if a city

1731
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: or state official says, in the color of state law,

1732
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: under color of law, we're going to file charges against

1733
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: somebody because they're white or black, right? I think I

1734
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: think they're going to have some problems.

1735
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, all right?

1736
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Once again, Ken Cober, I wanted you respond to what

1737
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: Alice Iris really talked about and segment. Dennison has been

1738
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: close to Iris really for a long time, and so

1739
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: I think it's great that we get her on a

1740
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: get her viewpoint heard and Ken Cobra once again, thanks

1741
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you again. Sure,

1742
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. God bless you. Let's continue with more.

1743
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, democrats in the South for years and decades

1744
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: would file criminal charges against people because of the color

1745
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: of their skin black. Here we are half a century

1746
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: later now city state officials, including Cecil Thomas state representative,

1747
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: once criminal charges filed against somebody because of the color

1748
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: of their skin white. Cunningham News Radio seven hundreds.

1749
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 11: You better make up your mind what you're gonna do.

1750
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 11: It's your football team. Find a way to fix it.

1751
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 11: Rache down inside and be a pro.

1752
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Hello, by it, I'm broadcasting.

1753
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 11: You better make up your mind what you're gonna do.

1754
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 11: It's your football team. Find a way to fix it.

1755
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 11: Rag down inside and be a pro.

1756
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: Was that Zach Shula after the game? Because Marvin Lewis

1757
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: to say he's coming back. Lewis is coming back, that's

1758
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: what they're saying here right, Well, we need something. How

1759
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: about John Gruden? When Mike Brown pop up? Mike Brown,

1760
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: how are someone good to come in? That's stupid. The coach.

1761
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: The head coach is not the issue. Is your guy

1762
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: the person who sacks? Then how about Duke Tobin? What

1763
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: about him? Twenty five years? They have a special original pancake, Yes,

1764
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: the samar Stewart special extra special pancake. That's one. I

1765
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: can't understand him to have a body like a Greek

1766
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: god like he does and have come out of two

1767
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: straight games with no tackles none. Yes, Dave, he's hot.

1768
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Break it down? What do we got here? Breaking it up?

1769
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: Not the super Bowl? We're not talking about Derrick Park

1770
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: losing a woman name. I mean the Bengal defensively in particular.

1771
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: You got a few trades here. You can start benching

1772
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: starters just to send a message in the well, can

1773
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: they can it be that much worse?

1774
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 6: Uh?

1775
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: You can?

1776
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: You know you can start doing that, Maybe start bringing

1777
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: in some free agents. Maybe you find a diamond in

1778
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: the rough. But this is clearly the thing about next year.

1779
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 1: You can maybe start firing coaches. You can look at trades,

1780
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: but who are you going to trade in order to

1781
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: get something? You got to give something. Gimpy leg defensive

1782
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: end in his thirties who once thirty one years old

1783
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: and he hasn't played in two games, So what are

1784
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: you gonna get for him? First round draft pick? No,

1785
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: they want to first round about Logan Will you might

1786
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: get a fourth the third. They're not trading him. He's

1787
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: too valuable. Look what he's done this year already. When

1788
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: he's on the field. He's not on the field now,

1789
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: on the field like Joe is what everyone was saying

1790
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: when you know, when all the contract stuff was going, like,

1791
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: you're on the kind on the wrong side of thirty.

1792
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to hey that guy? Did you get here?

1793
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: We are on draft choice for no? Of course Duke

1794
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: two want to screw that up anyway? Who's feeling real good?

1795
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: The last thing we need, the last thing we need

1796
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: is more draft picks. We don't draft well, give it

1797
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: to Duke more less draft picks. What do we need then?

1798
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: Guys that can play football in the national Where's and Romo?

1799
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 9: Now?

1800
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: Where's your lou and them? Fired? When I did not

1801
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: riding high with uh with the Colts. You're not breaking

1802
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: it down, Rock, I need to know what I just

1803
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: gave you. The four options a week from some starters,

1804
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: bringing free agents, fire coaches, or trade. How about selling

1805
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: the team? I'm sorry, moving to Vancouver. This is a

1806
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: mom and pop operation worth billions. They have no clue

1807
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Duke Tobin twenty five years? Is that possible?

1808
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: This guy been there twenty five years, enjoys a brandy

1809
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: with Mikey boy every now and then. That's about it.

1810
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not gonna change. Before we go

1811
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: to the segment number one, Friday Night, Deer Park versus

1812
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: Anna Sannah. Some woman named Anna beat him. Fifty five

1813
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Rocket team rockets down the park. Where were they from? Anna,

1814
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: that's the name of the team. Where they from? I

1815
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: don't know?

1816
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Up?

1817
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: Anna? Ohio? Fool, don't even by Minster? Okay, got you? Okay,

1818
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: that's up. This is the first round playoffs. Dear Park

1819
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: goes down hard. Then Saturday afternoon the little rock playing

1820
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. He goes down hard and we

1821
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: lost against Central twenty six East Central Black. Look that

1822
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: they had a better team than us. They they played well,

1823
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: they got a look, they got a great super coaches

1824
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: head coach. That fit's a guy named Steve Norton. About

1825
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: your roll who took the blame of it, Well, I'm

1826
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, I'm trying to get to this

1827
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and that you get to it, do a

1828
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. But nonetheless, Steve Nolner a great guy,

1829
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: great football coach. He's an older guy, which made you

1830
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: probably want to you probably want to jump on that

1831
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: bandwagon tomorrow. But uh, he said, you didn't give me.

1832
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: They played twenty twenty to six, twenty to six. That

1833
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: was a disaster. And Saturday night the bear Cats the

1834
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: boar Cats, according to Andy Mack, the Utes in the

1835
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: land of the Utes. What's it like? Forty eight to fourteen,

1836
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: forty five? Mc hammer, get him ready. Then then Sunday

1837
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: afternoon at the Bacle at pay Court. That the Bacle.

1838
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: You should have seen your friends.

1839
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: It is.

1840
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: They were five hundred and seventy four yards of offense.

1841
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: Is after the Bears. I mean I didn't say the

1842
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: eighty five Bears. I just said the Bears. These are

1843
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: different thes are the Midway the monsters of the Midway. Yeah.

1844
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: And then Sunday night you had FC and the Crew.

1845
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: There were twenty shots on goal by both teams total,

1846
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: how many were by FC one they go in the

1847
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: net four nil, four nil, one to one. Saturday Night

1848
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: Game three, that's where we're deer park down, Little Rock down,

1849
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Rock down, both little rocks down the middle rock went

1850
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: down to roll down A Saturday night ute land terrible

1851
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon the Bengals embarrassed themselves once again. Then to

1852
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: top it all off, Sunday night FC nothing and they

1853
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: get hammer. They're gonna lose this this weekend, I guess.

1854
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: And they're done. So do you have any hope? Absolutely none?

1855
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: Say give me some sports? Will he the Stoot Reporters

1856
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: sprout service, every local tame Star heating and air condisiting dealers,

1857
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Tamestar quality you can feel in beautiful Southeastern Indiana called

1858
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: Joe X died at X nine Heating and Gooli at

1859
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: eight one two nine three two twenty twenty six. I

1860
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: want a first round draft courts for a gimpy leg

1861
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: at thirty one year old. They can't play drunk. It's

1862
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: the thing. There's there's no one else to to trade.

1863
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: What about the second string? Get them in this and

1864
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: I have this picture. That's what you do. Maybe you

1865
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: just start bringing in guys and maybe it's just going

1866
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to set an example standpoint. You say, look, if you're

1867
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna give that kind of effort and tackle that poorly.

1868
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: We're just bringing someone else at least motivate them to

1869
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: some I put this on myunt. What are the odds

1870
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 1: of those three guys not making that tackle in that position?

1871
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Seem to be triangulated? And number eighty four Bob Trump's

1872
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: number on what's the deal with the tackling rock? I

1873
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: mean you you've been tackling. You've been tackling since you

1874
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: were what three years old? Yes? I mean why do

1875
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: they always go to the Why did they go for

1876
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: the upper body? Hit the legs? They go high, they

1877
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: don't put their head across wrap them. They don't when

1878
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: I played football for Gordon Vetterino. Wrap them up tight

1879
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: and you don't let go. At some point they're going

1880
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: to go down they want. They bounced off that Leonard

1881
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: guy like he was. I could talk about this for

1882
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: for a long time, but I mean, first of all,

1883
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to get good at anything that you really

1884
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: can't practice. You can't practice tackling in season. Now, there's

1885
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: things you can do. I don't know if they're doing

1886
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: them or not. There's some things you can do. You

1887
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: can have collisions. You got to have some sort of collisions, right,

1888
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: to have it, because that's a kind of a pretty

1889
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: big part of tackling. Would you not agree the collisions,

1890
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: but you can do things to minimize the collision and

1891
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: make it over a smaller degree of space, But you

1892
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: got to do it usually to some degree. Tackling you

1893
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: kind of can do it or you can't, you know.

1894
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, these three players had them surrounded. I will

1895
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: say I will say this too. In my opinion, some

1896
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: of the issue is with so many young guys playing.

1897
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Part of tackling is knowing where you're supposed to be

1898
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: and have confidence in that, and also knowing where your

1899
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: help is. Right. So, if you're a young guy and

1900
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: you kind of don't know and boom play happens, and god,

1901
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be in the A gap? And

1902
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: if so, who's in the beat? And you don't know that,

1903
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: that will cause you to mistack. I have no idea

1904
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Trying to lay it out. I want

1905
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 1: you to break it down at some point.

1906
01:29:59,120 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 10: It down.

1907
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: What about Gordon, your buddy from UH game? What about

1908
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: you forget how to coach defense? They've given up three

1909
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: hundred points so far in nine games, an all time

1910
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: bad record. There's that fall on the players are him.

1911
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Would you say we're getting out schemed? Yes, because we're

1912
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: getting out schemed, then you could make that case. What

1913
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: about selecting they were getting out schemed. I think we're

1914
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: just not making place player I than anything I'm saying.

1915
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: If I'm the sep for ever, if I'm the chef

1916
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: preparing the food, I want to buy the groceries. Who's

1917
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: buying the groceries? Otob been there twenty five years. You

1918
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: can't find them with a search warrant. Right now, go ahead?

1919
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 1: The bye week is under way. Willie and Bengals. Bengals

1920
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: line the five. I'm talking about Gordon Veterino in the

1921
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Greatest Saint Savior. There is one great thing about Saint

1922
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: X this past week, just one one? What dom ellis?

1923
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 4: Yes?

1924
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: How about this? I did say twenty twenty five Ohio

1925
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: Athletic Association Division one state cross country. Yeah, fifteen minutes

1926
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 1: and seven seconds. You want them on? Yes, you go

1927
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: across country? Champ. Bring him in college. He's gonna have

1928
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: a future in his life. I'm like college basketball to

1929
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I Bearcats in Western Carolina at six thirty? Do you

1930
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: like that matchup? Rock and I don't care parriston Xavier.

1931
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: How about that forty fifty five XAVIORA and K. And

1932
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: you see Claremont at six thirty on the project like

1933
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: the Claremont. What is it? What does it say? You

1934
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: see Claremont? Haven't they won the national title? We had

1935
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: men here once or twice? I think in uh Volleyball seven,

1936
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you see Claremont go ahead, an old dominion. In the

1937
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Miama RedHawks can't wait? Canisius and Dayton Franklin up against

1938
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 1: Wright State free agent free agent Reds, free agent Reds?

1939
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: What the guy?

1940
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 10: No?

1941
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: How about one point three billion? The Dodgers spending four

1942
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: pitchers one point work and it worked? Yes, it worked?

1943
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Is it worth one point three billion? Tony Bender says yes.

1944
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes gets his second gold glow of can

1945
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: he hit? Uh, Nick Martinez, Emilio Pagan, Zach Lttel, Wayne Wade, Miley,

1946
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: Ian Jibou, Miguel Andrew Harr and Santiago Espinal all free agents.

1947
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: Let them all go. I don't need any of them hit.

1948
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: Can they hit? We need guys that can hit, Guys

1949
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: that can hit the base the best of all time.

1950
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: And the announcer said, when was the last time my

1951
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: ball got stuck in the wall. Well, Fredo hit the

1952
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: ball on the wall in the right right, I said, hey, Fredo,

1953
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati all comes back to Cincinnatis. Everything in the world

1954
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: comes back to Cincinnati. Do you have any hope, Rock,

1955
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: Do you have any hope? They don't play for about

1956
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: two weeks, then they got the bad part of the

1957
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: schedule starts.

1958
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 4: Now.

1959
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're gonna play like Pittsburgh and then you

1960
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: got to play Buffalo. Then you gotta play. I gave

1961
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: you the four options of what they.

1962
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 9: Like.

1963
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 1: What are the options? You're looking at his notes? There

1964
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: were no. I'm looking about the on CNN. But I

1965
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying they got I think they got Baltimore

1966
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: with like within twice, within two or four weeks. Aga,

1967
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I believe it's Baltimore. Someone Baltimore. They got here. Yeah,

1968
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: they there in Thanksgiving. Unbelievable. Andy back, They're gonna they're

1969
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of that game. Yes it is. It's

1970
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo sandwiched in there between two Ravens kicking the crap

1971
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: out of the Chiefs just for fun. Lamar is back

1972
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's got an attitude. It's so scored that the

1973
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: final final too much time. I said, don't mine, don't

1974
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: do it. Pull a team. Boom boom cos the tight

1975
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: end four hundred and seventy yards fifty four yards not good.

1976
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: At recovery no good. Block and field goal no good.

1977
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: All I can take two runs, kickoff back ninety nine

1978
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: yards no good. Two receivers over one hundred yards. You

1979
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: can say, I mean literally, did everything else that you

1980
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: could do to keep your team in the game and win.

1981
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: And now they thought they were going to lose, didn't you?

1982
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: At the end there I thought was somehow it was

1983
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: going to be. If they tackled him, they might not

1984
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: have time to kick a field flacker like first game

1985
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I think with over four yards of offense in his career,

1986
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: he said, first time for yards passing it in my

1987
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: career he has like his arms like hanging off his body,

1988
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: and he still goes out and does that with a

1989
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: bunch of guys he's known for about a week and

1990
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: a half. Not good enough? How's that possible? Only in

1991
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: Cincinnatis as possible? What was worse? The Little Rock in

1992
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Matt Deer Park at Anna, the Rock

1993
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, bear Cats at Utah Bears in

1994
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: one of those things and the crews just line up

1995
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: that disaster would have held of teams would have would one.

1996
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: But they wasn't even close. The Bengals, who knew they

1997
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: were going to lose. I said, if you can leave

1998
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: any time on the clock. Tim Higgins was brilliant against

1999
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to go down and take the dive right, brilliant. Otherwise,

2000
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 1: if he scored that quick touchdown against It's Park, they

2001
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: would have gone back and scored and they would have

2002
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: lost that one too. They're three and six, giving up

2003
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: three hundred points, the worst performance of any defense this

2004
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: side of the imagine no line in World War One

2005
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: when the French didn't know what the hell they were doing.

2006
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Doo any hope, Rock, I need it. Got to break

2007
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: it down to some point. You got the.

2008
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 6: I mean that's embarrassing. I mean, you don't ever want

2009
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 6: to put that many points up. You know that the

2010
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 6: teams have scored that much, or left teams rush for

2011
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 6: that much whatever, you know. I mean I played on

2012
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 6: some really good defenses before, so I know what it

2013
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 6: takes to be a good defense. I know what it's

2014
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 6: like to be on a good defense. So yeah, I

2015
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 6: mean it is embarrassing, but.

2016
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Left the room yesterday. They were laughing at the job

2017
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: when you were with the Colts to No, we just

2018
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: how about Ivy by the way, And it wasn't that.

2019
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't Derrick Henry that rushed for you know, a

2020
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: billion yards. It wasn't Bruce Saw. It was some guy

2021
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 1: named mona guy who career one hundred and seventy six yards,

2022
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: and a guy named Britton Brown who has pulled off

2023
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: the practice squad. In essence, he's their fourth or fifth

2024
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: running back and he had dominated five for thirty seven

2025
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: as the offensive team banned the defensive team from the

2026
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: locker room, Tony pokers start getting real ugly inside. How

2027
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: about the Ivy character off sides lining up? They missed

2028
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: the field goal and then they go down and score

2029
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown. That's seven points Ivy and he's laughing and snickering.

2030
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: He's snickering. Wrap up Joe's Burrow's toe and get let's go.

2031
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: What Joe's got the toe he's got? Does Jamar Chase

2032
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: wanted Joe Burt to come back because he throws in

2033
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 1: the ball like every time Flacco does. Does he want

2034
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: does he want Bird to come back?

2035
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 9: No?

2036
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: And this environment, saying why play you can't win? No,

2037
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, does Jamar Chase want no Joe Bert to

2038
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 1: come back? He's preaty good? Yeah to targets has like

2039
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty targets a game that's also not good.

2040
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. How about Trey

2041
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: Henderson gaining traveling for a bag of football? So what

2042
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: about that? To be here after fourth game?

2043
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 9: I stopped doing hopes and all that stuff a long

2044
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 9: time ago. It's you are where your feet are, and

2045
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 9: you know where your feet will be. Blessed to be

2046
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 9: where I am right now. You know bottom of the

2047
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 9: national football you know first to last, you know it's

2048
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 9: it's it's a there's a limited amount of spots here

2049
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 9: and this is an incredible blessing. You know, sick for

2050
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 9: the fans and sick for the people that you need

2051
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 9: to come and watch us, and me too. It's tough games,

2052
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 9: but again, like moving forward, I think we'll make the

2053
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 9: corrections we need to and get back in the one call.

2054
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: Don't want to compliment Mike Brown. Is he incentive ized

2055
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: to like come back to this mess? Does he think

2056
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: he's not? Why would you rehab Borrow or Hendredson or

2057
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 1: any of them. Another four and ten. What do you

2058
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: do if you're Joe Burrow and coming back unless you're

2059
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: worried about Flacco? Like being here and Flacco will be

2060
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: here next year. I'd sign him as a backup. We

2061
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: know if he can throw football? Absolutely I hate it.

2062
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: He's playing better than Joe Burrow. Can I say that Rock? Can't?

2063
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 1: I can't say Rock? Break it down? At some point

2064
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: say give me out of the student's report. By the way,

2065
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: you have you have a bowman coming up. But yeah,

2066
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Corey Bone right at at gate three o'clock. Where's the mayor?

2067
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: He's in a bunker under eighto one Plump Street. SEG,

2068
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: please continue, Will we say happy seventy second anniversary today?

2069
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: On this date in nineteen fifty one? Who was president

2070
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: at the Montgomery Inn opened its door today? Today? Wow?

2071
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Seventy one, seventy years, seventy two years in business? And

2072
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: who was president? Tell him? Who is president? Nineteen fifty?

2073
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Tell him I'm done with the president stuff. No, the

2074
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: was still Truman. Did you go to Coleraine? Did you

2075
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: go to Coleraine? I had not? Seg, thank you, good

2076
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: luck for the rottle Rock, Thank you he's done. We

2077
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: leave you with the immortal words of the stud Report

2078
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 1: no comments. I got a Troy Blackburn can't say on

2079
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: seven hundred w auto