1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer operates seven days a week. The Kuner Report 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: weekend edition WRKO the Voice of Boston. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: Okay, it is the Kooner country Pole. Question of the 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Day sponsored by Marios. Is it time to send boots 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: on the ground in Iran? President Trump now very seriously 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: contemplating sending in, as I said, the thirty first Marine 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Expeditionary Unit. They're on their way from Japan on the 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: USS Tripoli and they should be arriving there about middle 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: of next week. And it looks that the military now 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: is telling him, if you want to break this blockade, 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: end the blockade or the stoppage of the Strait of 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: Hormooge of Hornmuz. Forgive me that the Iranian regime has 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: now launched. You bring in these troops, about twenty two 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: hundred of them. They will take over key islands in 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: the Strait of horm Moose and that will give us 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: a an ability to really project power and go after 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: all these small boats and missiles and drones that are 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: harassing shipping. But more importantly, we will take over their 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 2: top island, carg Island, where ninety percent of Iran's oil 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: flows through, and that will give us the ace in 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: the hole to make a deal and end the war 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: once and for all with a complete victory on behalf 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: of the United States. So should Trump send in the 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: troops to deliver a potential knockout blow or is this 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: now the beginning of a protracted quagmire. Jeff in Chelsea, 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for holding, Jeff, and welcome. 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: Jef. Well, Jeff, I'm gonna talk strictly about security matters 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: today because I've been doing it for over twenty five years, 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: and I believe the Islamis are going to return the 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: favor and start hitting utility plant in America. Whether it's 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: water LNG doesn't matter because you see outside of a 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: nuclear power plant or even a hospital that has its 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: own internal armed police department inside the facility, or some universities, 34 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: we're pretty much sitting ducks because most places higher contract 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: security that is unarmed. When you're not armed, you are 36 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: at a complete disadvantage. And also insider threat. Look this 37 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: term up insider threat. That means the snakes get hired 38 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: either within the facility staff or the cleaning staff, or 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: the security staff, or anybody that has access to master 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: keys that can get that person or organization the multiple rooms. 41 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: In other words, we are pretty much a sitting duck. 42 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: I don't think anything can really be done about it. 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: And when this eventually happens, especially in blue areas, I 44 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: believe the security will be federalized. 45 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: What do you think, Jeff Well, I think it depends 46 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: exactly what these sleeper cells do. I agree with you, Jeff. 47 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: I'm bracing for some terrorist attacks. I think it's almost inevitable. 48 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: We've already been what is it now, five or six 49 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: that they've launched. So they hit that synagogue, for example, 50 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: up in Michigan, they shot at Old Dominion University and 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: killed that poor military instructor. You saw what happened down 52 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: in Austin, Texas. I could go on and on. So 53 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: clearly there are HESBLAS cells in the United States there, 54 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: I think. According to what Tulsi Gabbard said yesterday, and 55 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: I trust her on the intelligence side of this, she said, 56 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: we're more likely to get lone wolf style attacks than say, 57 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: a coordinated nine to eleven style attack with you know, 58 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: twenty terrorists hijacking planes or something. She said, Look, I'm 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: not ruling it out anything as possible, she said, obviously, 60 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: but she said it's more likely to be you know, 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: one or two people here, one or two Islamis here. 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: And as you said, they may start hitting our electrical 63 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: grid or going after some of our refineries, or you know, 64 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: God forbid, go at shopping malls, or hit schools or 65 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: churches or synagogues. To me, that's another reason why I 66 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: want this war to end as quickly as possible, because 67 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: the longer it goes on, the longer you give these 68 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: sleeper cells time to attack the homeland. And I don't 69 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: want to see any more Americans die. I just don't, 70 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: both there and here. Jeff, thank you so much for 71 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: that call. Jim in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Jim, 72 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: and welcome. 73 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: Hey Jeff. 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Happy Thursday, my friend. That's right, we're almost at the weekend. 75 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: Almost there. So I want to recommend definitely some of 76 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: your callers for you know standing. I think was on 77 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: the right side of this, and great call called before 78 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: I think it was dead for Marblehead. So my thing 79 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: is this, I've been against this kind of from the beginning. 80 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 4: We have red lines, so I think we've crossed them already. 81 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Now the boots on the ground at carg Island, it 82 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: should be the biggest red line of all. I think 83 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: most people are against this, I hope, because again we're 84 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: putting where we're sitting ducks. Iran has been playing for 85 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: this for forty years. They want this, they know what 86 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: this is. We sent our forces there, We're surrounded my mountains. 87 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: They have plenty of drones. It doesn't take much to 88 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: to bomb that island. It's a small island and that's 89 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: a blood bath. So what would that lead to. That's 90 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: not going to lead to us backing out and ducking 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: your tails. That's gonna lead to more escalation in my 92 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: big fear of a World War three, you know, or 93 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: something in a really bad direction. Best case economic because 94 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: aster on the world. Worst case, you know, we know 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: what worst case can be. You know, I'm an independent 96 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: sides you know, libertarian more times, because I mean I'm 97 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: five picks the right of the right. I don't believe 98 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 4: in these socials are. But it's people like me that 99 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: we're a big part of Trump winning this election, and 100 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: a big part of of the MAGA movement and a 101 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: big part of America First. And I think this is 102 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: not only going to really hurt Trump, it's really gonna 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: hurt the Republican party worse than Biden did for his 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: party and that debaracle, and that's that, that's a big 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: fear besides the other things about this escalation ladder, and 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: a big thing is what is the good of all this? 107 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 4: So we're taking Trump took a huge gamble with this, right, 108 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: so the benefits all right? So we want to topple 109 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 4: the regime, Well, we haven't toppled any regimes in Iraq, 110 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: Afghanist and Vietnam. Yeah, it's here. I can go on 111 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: the list of failed attempts and countries that are much 112 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: smaller with much less power. And at time, we even 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: had more power geobilitically, so we were bigger and we 114 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: were dealing with smaller then, and we can do it. 115 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: We don't have the same support, for sure, and we 116 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: don't have the world support, and we don't have the 117 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, we're dealing with a much larger countries. So 118 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: I don't see a regime change ever happening. Especially on 119 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: the first day when we bombed and we had a school, 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: we had a school, I mean, how is that going 121 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: to make anyone jump on our side and create that? 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: And you don't even talk about liberation anymore, you know, 123 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: we're basically bombing, Well, were really not. I mean I 124 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: think Israel is unfortunately bombing a lot of the infrastructure, 125 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: and that's not gonna go popular. I mean, it's only 126 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: gonna make it worse. I mean, people like myself from 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: following this knew that this was going to happen. We 128 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: knew the Streeter Muslim could be closed, we knew the 129 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: Gulf States where our bases could be attacked. This was 130 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: all predictable and all should have been planned out much 131 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: better if we were going to do it, which I 132 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: didn't think of the first place. So what are the pros? 133 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: I don't see many pros from this. I see prices 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: going up, gas going up, support going down. But I 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: see a lot of cons and are really bad cons. 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 4: Forget about the World War. Let's just talk about China. 137 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: It is hurting China because I mean, excuse he is 138 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: helping China because we're taking a lot of our bases 139 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: and munitions out of Southeast Asia where they're dying to 140 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: go at Taiwan. And that you think is bad with 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: the oil, imagine that they take over the semiconductors. I 142 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: mean that would be beyond devastating. So it's helping China out. 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: It's making them look like they're a peacemaker, which I 144 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: never thought i'd see. It's definitely helping Rush out because 145 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: they're getting more They're they're selling more oil, They're they're 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: funding the war far more. It's hurting. And the thing 147 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: about Israel, like I don't understand if iris is really 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: how does this help your country. It's making it far 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: less safe. It's causing more anger on both sides of 150 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: the party and both all over the world at what's 151 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: going on. And it's again it's I can only imagine 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: the devastation now there. Now that's showing a lot of it. 153 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: I can imagine what's happening. I ran to produce drones 154 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: by the thousands very quickly. They don't need ballistic missiles. 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: And this is the list of con Well, you nailed it. 156 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: No, look, Jim, look this is it's it's becoming more 157 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: and more protracted. The war is expanding, it's sucking in 158 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: now and damaging countries around Iran Uh and even in Israel. Look, 159 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: the Iron Dome is look a brilliant technology, there's no question. 160 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: But missiles are getting through. I mean they just are 161 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: cluster munition. Some of them are getting through. And it's 162 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: not just that innocent Israelis are getting killed, which obviously 163 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: breaks my heart. But some of these missiles have hit 164 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: the one in Haifa, They hit a key oil refinery 165 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: in Haifa, which is also the main port in Israel. 166 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is yeah, I mean, they're blasting 167 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: the hell out of the mullas and the military targets 168 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: in Iran, no question, but Israel is starting to bleed 169 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: as well. 170 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: You're locked into Boston's Bulldozer, The Kuner Report Weekend edition, 171 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: The Voice of Boston WRKO