1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Anywhere anytime. Take your infote to go. I'm listening to 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: your heart. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Powered by fifty five krs the talk station. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: At O six fifty five krs the talk station. Happy 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday made even extra special today hour of Power. My 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: listeners know that means we're talking with Congressman Thomas Massey 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: right now, followed by Joe Jenital Poultano and Great Alisia 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: reze Hamilon Kenny Commission is going to be joining the 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: program at the end of the hour to talk about 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: the budget. Welcome back Congressman Thomas Massey. Thank you for 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: coming to the Morning Showing in advance. Happy Merry Christmas 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: to you and your family. Welcome back. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Great to be back on with you. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Brian, all right, I'm been talking about it much here 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: in the Morning Show, but let's start with the January 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: sixth pipe bomber. No, it's not Erkle from Family Matters. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: It's Brian Cole Junior, thirty years old. So what was 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: all the brand new evidence and what's what's the diligent 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: efforts that the Trump administration engaged in to catch this 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: guy that the Biden administration apparently didn't do. From everything 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: I've gathered, there was nothing there were no new tips, 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: no new evidence. They just put together what they had 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: and processed it and found out where he is. Do 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: am I missing something? Congressman Massey, No, the. 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: Story still does not add up. And there's no way 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: they're going to make me believe that this autistic allegedly 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: according to his family, he's autistic, That this autistic kid 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: he also happens to be African American living in his 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: family's basement. They're liberals. They're trying to make you believe. 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: At least the news is right now that this guy 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: confessed to being a Trump supporter and that he placed 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: these pipe bombs, that he masterminded this pipe bomb attack 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: on January sixth on the Capitol. Remember this of five 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: years ago. I'm not buying it. I do not believe 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: an autistic black kid in his parents' basement evaded the 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: FBI for five years and masterminded this and built these 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: pipe bombs by himself. Could he have been a patsy? 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: Could he have been part of this overall conspiracy, Yes, 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: could have been. But right now the evidence is then 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: what they've presented so far. They've got some cell phone pings. 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 2: And here's why I don't believe it. Brian. I sat 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: in a room. I was part of a deposition of 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: the FBI guy who was in charge of the Washington 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: Field office when January sixth happened, and he was in 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: charge of the investigation to find out who the pipe 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: bomber was. But guess what his resume includes. Just a 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: few months before, he had been transferred from Michigan, where 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: he oversaw the FBI fed napping case of Governor Whitmer. 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: Remember they had some not the brightest citizens in the world. 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: They had entrapped them. Most of the people involved in 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: that kidnapping case. Where her FBI informants or agents. Well, 52 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: he comes from that office, he comes to DC. He's 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: there when January sixth happens. He's overseeing all the FBI 54 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. He's overseeing the investigation. We call 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: him in when we get the majority, because remember the 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Democrats were in the majority for a while Nancy Pelosi 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: was running things. When we get the majority, Jim Jordan 58 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: calls him in to ask him about the raid on 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: mar Lago, which he also oversaw. And I asked, Jordan, Hey, 60 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: could I pop in while you're doing the transcribed interview 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: and ask him some questions about January sixth, He says, sure. 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: So I go into the transcribed interview and I asked him, 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: why haven't you guys used cell phone pings? We got 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: video of the pipe bomber placing bombs allegedly on January fifth. 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Now he wore a mask or she wore a mask 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: and glasses and a hood, so we couldn't identify the person. 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: But you've got cell phone pings of this person. How 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: time you haven't identified him for her? And he said 69 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: the cell phone data was corrupted. So here's the problem 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: with that. We go to the cell phone providers and 71 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: they all of them said no, their data was not corrupted. 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: So this is one reason I'm skeptical is I had 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: the assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington Field 74 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: office just lie to me in a transcribed interview where 75 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: he was under oath, and here they are, five years later, 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: they're saying their strongest case is the cell phone pings 77 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: to identify this guy in his basement. 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: So were they lying to you then or lying to 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: you now, Congressmbassy? 80 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: I think both. It's possible that it's both, So okay, 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: So there's a lot more to this too. I don't 82 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: know that we've got enough time on your show. It 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: was my staffer who discovered how the second pipe bomb 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: was found. He sifted through dozens of hours of video 85 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: that weren't publicly available until we got them released, and 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: he found out there was two counter surveillance police officers, 87 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill police officers who found the second pipe bomb 88 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: within fifteen minutes of getting out of their car. They 89 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: walked right to it and found it. And I thought 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: that was very suspicious. I asked Christopher Ray in a hearing, 91 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: have you interviewed these individuals? He couldn't give me a 92 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: straight answer. I asked the Washington Field Office director if 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: he had, if that person would be a suspect. He said, 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: that's investigation one oh one. And so there's some suspicious 95 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: stuff going on there. By the way, my former staffer 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: was hired by the FBI and has been working on 97 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: this case over there. So and then also I brought 98 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: in the counter one of the two counter surveillance officers. 99 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: They never let me talk to the other one, but 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: one of them came to my office, not in a 101 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: transcribed interview, but just as sort of a chat. But 102 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: they brought a handler for him, who interrupted him frequently 103 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: or clarified his answers, or wouldn't let him answer into 104 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: They brought the handler with him. The handler turns out 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: to be the ATFU guy in charge of January sixth, 106 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: who somehow migrated his way over to third in command 107 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: at Capitol Hill Police. I suspect he was he worked 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: his way into Capitol Hill Police so that he could 109 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: basically watch over this investigation as it played out and 110 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: make sure that none of the Capitol Hill Police officers 111 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: were implicated. Finally, there's a January sixth committee, you know, 112 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: the bogus one the Democrats ran. Well, Barry louder Milk represented. 113 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: Barry Loudermilk convinced the Speaker and the White House. The 114 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: White House had to fight to let to get the 115 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Speaker to let him even set up this committee, which 116 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: just blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know 117 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: if there was some conspiracy, Yeah, to make the President 118 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: and all of MAGA look bad like there was good, 119 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: like there was an insurrection. Well, finally Barry Laudermilk gets 120 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: the right to run this committee. It's a subcommittee, and 121 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: I've been working with him and his staff. He's allowed 122 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: to investigate anything except the Capitol Hill Police. 123 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Holy cow. You know we've talked about your inability to 124 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: get information. You are oversight. You represent your constituents, you 125 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: represent the American people. You're the one who is responsible 126 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: for looking into these matters on behalf of the American people. 127 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: This is just one more in a long, long, painfully 128 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: long list of illustrations of them refusing to give you 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: or anybody else access to information, whether it's physical information 130 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: like video tape evidence. You can't talk to people these 131 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: interferences with your ability the Q and A people who 132 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: are behind the scenes that have the information. I mean, 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: this is beyond I want to use the word troubling, 134 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: but that just doesn't emphasize the problem enough. 135 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: Congress from Massey, and when you talk about my authority 136 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: or responsibility to do oversight, that's a particular responsibility because 137 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm on the judiciary right, we have oversight over FBI, 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: DOJ and ATF, which is why I have asked them 139 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: all about January sixth and these public hearings. I asked 140 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: agent or the FBI director Dental Bock, if these pipe 141 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: bombs were viable devices, could they have ever gone off? 142 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: And they never got a straight answer from him. The 143 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: reality is you can't set a pipe bomb off sixteen 144 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: hours later with a sixty minute kitchen timer. These pipe 145 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: BOMs had like the little egg timers you see at Walmart, 146 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: and so many people have them in their kitchens. That was, 147 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, and the FBI story for five years has 148 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: been that the bombs were set, you know, the night before, 149 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: not the day of January sixth. There's so much of 150 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: this that doesn't add up. There's also this new there's 151 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: a couple new revelations that have come out in the 152 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: last month. By the way, this is another suspicious thing. 153 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: Barry Loudermilk's committee as well as an investigative journalist at 154 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: The Blaze, came out with new information that implicated Capitol 155 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: Hill Police. Two new pieces of information, and within a 156 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: few weeks the FBI goes and nabs somebody that is 157 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: allegedly autistic and evaded the FBI for five years. But 158 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: the new information is that somebody used a Metro card 159 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: and that belonged to a government employee that a Metro 160 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: card had only and then used twice on January fifth 161 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: and January sixth. They've got this guy on video and 162 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: when they traced the Metro card owner. It turns out 163 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: the FBI had staked this guy out for a week 164 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: and then we're called off of it. But he lives 165 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: next door to a Capitol Hill police officer that lives 166 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: like twelve miles away from DC. We're not talking about 167 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: two people that and when I say next door, they 168 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: share a wall, Okay, and they it's crazy. But the 169 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: FBI has video of the person who used that Metro 170 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: card casing one of the locations that the pipe bomb 171 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: was placed. He's there on January fifth, taking pictures and 172 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: he gets on before he gets out of the subway, 173 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: he puts on a hood, he puts on a mask, 174 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: he puts on glasses so he can't see who it is, 175 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: not glasses, but he puts on a totally different change. 176 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: The FBI I quit track in that person. Still to 177 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: this day, Cash Patel doesn't have a a story for 178 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: why they didn't keep going after that guy. Anyways, I 179 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: know this is a lot of information to dump on 180 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: your listeners. You can watch there's a video that Kyle 181 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: Saraffin put out that goes over this. There's a video 182 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: on Free the People of Me and Steve Baker, who's 183 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: the investigative journalist at The Blaze. We spent about an 184 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: hour talking about in this case, and I'm going to 185 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: do another interview today for about an hour going through 186 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: the state of play with this case. But the reason 187 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: your listeners should care is this may have been a 188 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: conspiracy by the left that involved parts of our government 189 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: who either it's no longer possible to believe that they 190 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: were this inept because they've been lying. This may have 191 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: been a conspiracy to incite riot at the Capitol or 192 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: to make it or to make it look like President 193 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: Trump was part of this, and to discredit the entire right. Well, continuing, yes, 194 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: one last thing. The prosecutor they put in charge of 195 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: this case this week is the one who tried to 196 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: prosecute General Michael Flynn and the one who tried to 197 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: get false, false confessions from the Proud Boy. She convicted 198 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: the Proud Boys. She's notorious for dealing with altered evidence 199 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: in order to convict people and Trump's sphere, and the 200 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: deal she offered to one of the Proud Boys was 201 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: if you'll implicate President Trump, will give you a lighter sentence. 202 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: Why the heck is she still working at the CEOJ 203 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: and why did they put her on this case? 204 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who's in charge of that? 205 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean you would think it would be Pam BONDI. 206 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: Yep, you would think apparently not. Congress from Thomas Massey, frightening, 207 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: frightening revelations. This morning, we'll continue with Congressman Massy real 208 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: quick word for my friends at Colin Electric. It's the 209 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Power Up your Holiday sale. Great savings on service upgrades 210 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: from Colin Electric. 211 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: Agalk station. 212 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: It's a twenty one to fifty five KRCYD talk station. 213 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Bryan Thomas, the Congressman Thomas Massey, You follow by Jude 214 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Jenner Polatano. Since Judge of Paulatanna wants to talk about 215 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: blowing up drug smugglers fifteen hundred miles away, I'll bring 216 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: it up to your attention. I know you and Massey, 217 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: are you and Napolitano and even I feel on the 218 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: same side on that. I'm worried. And now Donald Trump's 219 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: talking about dropping bombs on Venezuela. Congressman Thomas Massey, it 220 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be up for a vote. 221 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Do we need an authorization to use of military force? 222 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Do we need a declaration of war? What happens if 223 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: neither of those passes were kind of status quo, which 224 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: means Donald Trump's going to continue bombing Congressman. 225 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, there should be a vote on it, and there 226 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: hasn't been a vote on it. Even with the you know, 227 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: isolated incidents of killing let's say Solomony or other terrorists 228 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: or people associated with terrorists, they're operating off of two 229 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: thousand and one AUMF that authorized and i'll put in 230 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: quotes air quotes authorized global war on Terror. But you 231 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: have to be al Qaeda or an associate of al 232 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: Qaeda to be covered by that global war on terror. 233 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: There is no AUMF authorization use of military force that's 234 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: been passed by Congress to authorize at tax on Venezuela 235 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: or its proxies. It just doesn't exist. And the problem 236 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: with what's going on right now, you know, there's a 237 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: whole controversy over the double tap where they may have 238 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: bombed a boat and there were a couple of survivors 239 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: and they went back and killed the survivors. If this 240 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: had been a true war, you know, let's say you 241 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: were in Afghanistan there was a convoy of terrorists with 242 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: machine guns, and you know, armored vehicles and bombs. And 243 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: I've talked to some of my military friends. They say, yeah, 244 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: we would, we go back and clean up, and if 245 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: we didn't get all the terrorists in that convoy, we 246 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: go back and kill the rest of them or enemy 247 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: combatants for instance. But this is different. What they've done 248 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: is they've blurred the line between a police action and 249 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: a military action. They're not saying that these people had 250 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: guns on the boats and that there was an imminent 251 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: threat that they could get up and pick up a 252 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: gun and shoot the plane or whatever. And so I 253 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: think that's where we're running into the moral, the ethical, 254 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: and the legal issues. Is they're trying to take something 255 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: which is ostensibly a police action, which is to stop 256 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: drugs from being run, and turn it into a military action. 257 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: And that with the bigger problem here is they want 258 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: regime change in Venezuela. And this is probably more about 259 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: overthrowing a country or a or a leader of a country, 260 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: whether he be a dictator or not. Then it is 261 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: about stopping the flow of drugs. If it was about 262 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: stopping to flow of drugs, and you could bomb any 263 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: vote that had drugs on it would be bombing the 264 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: posts from China to Mexico that carry the precursors oft ventanyl. 265 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Yes, but you see, they're a military power that has 266 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and a very strong military, and we've had 267 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: a lot of geopolitical realities to deal with with China, 268 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: so there's no way in hell we're going to touch them. 269 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: But you go to Venezuela where there's very barely an 270 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: army you could call, or a military you could even 271 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: call a standing military. Apparently they're so ill equipped and 272 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: poorly trained, and they've lost a lot of their global 273 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: support Venezuela has, so you're it's an easy target. 274 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: So yes, and and just to close this out, I 275 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: don't know that there will be a vote on it, 276 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to force a vote. I have co 277 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: sponsored a War Powers Act here in Congress to say 278 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: that you either have to withdraw hostilities against Venezuela or 279 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: you got to get an authorization from Congress. That's just 280 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: like constitutional common sense. So I've co sponsored that, and 281 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: there's a good chance we can force a vote on 282 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: that because there are parliamentary procedures that let you do that. 283 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of forcing a vote, I know we just have 284 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: a few minutes. I wanted to give you an up 285 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: date on the Epstein five. Oh Yeahrsparracy. Okay, So we 286 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: got that passed in the House. Everybody opposed me until 287 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: they saw I was going to win, and the vote 288 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: was four hundred and twenty seven to one. The Senate 289 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: has never passed a bill so quickly. In fact, they 290 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: passed my bill before it got there. They made a 291 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: unanimous consent to say, as soon as Massey's bill gets 292 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: to the Senate, it's going to be passed already. So 293 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: it went straight to the President's desk. They have until 294 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: we gave them thirty days the DOJ and FBI to 295 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: release this, not to Congress, not to the Speaker, not 296 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: to some chair of some committee, but to the public 297 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: in a searchable format, not drips and drabs that you 298 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: can't have to get AI to sort through. This has 299 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: to be in a public searchable format by December nineteenth. 300 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: So they've got nine days to produce all the material. 301 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: They are supposed to react redact the child sexual material, 302 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: exploitation material, and the victims' names, but everything else has 303 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: to be published within nine days. And two great things 304 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: that have happened already. There are three cases that had 305 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: grand jury material that was sealed. There was the original 306 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: Epstein case in Florida, there was the Julane Maxwell case, 307 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: and then there's the second Epstein case that he went 308 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: to prison for in New York. The DOJ was told 309 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: when they asked for the grand jury material to be 310 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: released that the law wouldn't allow them to release it, 311 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: and so the judges wouldn't release it. But the DOJ, 312 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: to their credit, went back to these courts and said, 313 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: now that Massey's bill has passed, can you release them? 314 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: And of the two of the three judges have said, yes, 315 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: we're gonna We're going to override like new laws override 316 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: old laws. I think I've said this on your radio 317 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: show before. This is just common sense too. People were like, well, 318 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: you can't relese grand jury material. I'm but this is 319 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: a law, and it overrides the old laws or the 320 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: or even things that are just precedent. So two of 321 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: the three judges have said, yeah, we're going to release 322 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: the grand grand jury material. After we redact victims' names, 323 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: we'll give it to the DOJ so they'll be in 324 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: possession of that. The third judge just hasn't ruled yet. Well, 325 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: and so that's that's the development, that's big, that's already happened. 326 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Popcorn has been out some people viewing this as a 327 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: distraction from the broader problems, like for example, bombing boats 328 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: off the coast of that as well, and engaging in 329 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: war without an authorization to use the military force or 330 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: a declaration. Judging of Polatan is waiting in the wings. 331 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: I threw that in there for his edification. So Congressman 332 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, Hello from Judge Enden of Politano, and I 333 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: will say hello from you to him as he's waving. 334 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. I appreciate what you're doing. Keep 335 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: up the great work, and let's get that information out there, 336 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: most notably about the Jay six bomber man. That is 337 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: scary stuff you brought to our attention this morning. 338 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: Well, Merry Christmas to you, to your listeners, and especially 339 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: to Judging of Politano. 340 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Right back at you, Merry Christmas, Congressman Thomas Massey to 341 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you and your loved ones. We'll talk again after the 342 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: first of the year, and I look forward to that. 343 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: It's coming up at eight twenty nine. 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