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Speaker 1: According to the CAP time, the State Department of Public

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Speaker 1: Unlike a different agency that regulates hundreds of other state

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Speaker 1: switched to cap Times you're probably right, Eric, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for that. Back to the report from Danielle d. Close.

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Speaker 1: In Wisconsin, the state Department of Public Instruction is responsible

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Speaker 1: for teacher licenses, but doesn't track data on how many

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Speaker 1: educators have been investigating following allegations of sexual misconduct or grooming. Booker.

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Speaker 1: Chris Booker, department spokesperson said, quote obtaining that information would

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Speaker 1: require a good deal of manual work to fulfill. How

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Speaker 1: how a reporter did it through open records requests? She

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Speaker 1: got five years of data, probably pretty quickly. It took

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Speaker 1: her a while. I'm assuming to talk to all of

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Speaker 1: the people that she talked to, except, of course, doctor

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Speaker 1: Jill Underley, who wanted no part of this story. She

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Speaker 1: did not return a request for comment, and why would

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Speaker 1: she the Department of Public Instruction And this is the

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Speaker 1: quite possibly most nauseating part. So they say it would

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Speaker 1: take way too much work to try to get all

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Speaker 1: the data on how many teachers are being investigated for

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Speaker 1: sexually abusing kids, but quote, the Department of Public Instruction

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Speaker 1: routinely gathers and publishes data on other potential signs of

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Speaker 1: student harm, such as how often students are chronically absent

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Speaker 1: experience homelessness or feel unsafe at school, but not the

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Speaker 1: frequency of educator misconduct. What this means is that it

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Speaker 1: is absolutely very easy for them to track this information.

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Speaker 1: What do you think are there more students in Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: or teachers? Very clearly, since there's one teacher for about

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Speaker 1: every twenty kids students, Yet they have no problem tracking

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Speaker 1: all that data, now, don't they? They don't want to

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Speaker 1: track the data on teacher misconduct because, just like the

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Speaker 1: test score scandal, it would reflect poorly on them and

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Speaker 1: their allies in the teachers' union. And of course they're

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Speaker 1: crying poverty. They're saying, well, we just don't have enough

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Speaker 1: money to be able to investigate this stuff in Under

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Speaker 1: the most recent state budget request, she sought over six

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for modernizing the agency's online background checks

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Speaker 1: and licensing platform. The proposal was rejected by lawmakers. Underly

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Speaker 1: requested no additional funding specifically for educator misconduct investigations. The

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction is also the only licensing agency,

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Speaker 1: it seems, that doesn't publish disciplinary histories. For hundreds of

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Speaker 1: other state licensed professions. Disciplinary histories are published online by

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Department of Safety and Professional Services misconduct records

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Speaker 1: for doctors, accountants, manicurists, and others are more publicly accessible

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Speaker 1: than similar records for teachers. The Department of Public Instruction

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Speaker 1: has tried to make the information available in the past,

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Speaker 1: but it's licensing software where just isn't equipped for that purpose.

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Speaker 1: Booker said the agency would need new software, which would

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Speaker 1: require funding. I call bull sh and I'm even gonna

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Speaker 1: Every other agency is able to The manicurists are able

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Speaker 1: if you're spending nail fungus at your salon, if you're

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Speaker 1: But not teachers, because they get out of every regulatory

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Speaker 1: and licensing agency. They're the only ones, the only ones

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Speaker 1: in the entire state where they can't find this data.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have the wherewithal to be able to

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Speaker 1: do it. Now do they nonsense? Utter nonsense? It is

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Speaker 1: more of a cover up. Fortunately, there is going to

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Speaker 1: be some modicum of accountability. We will get to that

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Speaker 1: aspect of the story what the state legislature is doing next.

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Speaker 1: Hap Times if you prefer they stop being a daily paper,

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Speaker 1: make sure that we are accurate on that score. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Dan o'donald's show. We have spent the

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Speaker 1: entire hour talking about the massive scandal broken by the

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Speaker 1: cap Times. There have been two hundred teachers investigated for

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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct, grooming behaviors and grooming. I think we all

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Speaker 1: know what grooming means, trying to to build a relationship

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Speaker 1: The Assembly's Committee on Government Operations, Accountability and Transparency has

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Speaker 1: the state legislature is acting very quickly to get answers

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson about the government shutdown. Coming up

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Speaker 2: I would say it within two weeks or so, pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is going to be meeting with his counterpart,

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Speaker 2: They're going to set up a time and a place

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Speaker 2: very shortly. Maybe it's already set up. They've already spoken.

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Speaker 2: And I thought it was a very good phone call.

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Speaker 2: I thought very productive. But I'll be meeting with President

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Speaker 2: President Zelenski, and I'll be telling them about the call.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have a problem.

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Speaker 2: They don't get along too well, those two, and it's

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Speaker 2: sometimes tough to have meetings. So we may do something

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Speaker 3: We'll meet and talk parties.

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Speaker 2: But this is a This is a terrible relationship the

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Speaker 2: two of them have.

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Speaker 3: And it's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame. How you know, relationships deteriorate when

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Speaker 1: the Middle East peace deal that was announced on Monday

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Speaker 1: and whether he thought Hamas would honor.

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Speaker 2: It looking at what's happening, and that was the deal

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Speaker 2: that was made, and we'll see what happens. It's it's

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Speaker 2: We know that we have a commitment from them, and

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Speaker 2: I assume they're going to honor that commitment. I hope

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Speaker 2: they do, and I know I understand they put back

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Speaker 2: think of it, right, very rough, and we have our

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Speaker 1: We were very lucky with that, but.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a tough situation. They brought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is sort of the geopolitical equivalent to you kids,

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Speaker 1: better stop that, or I'm going to tell your dad.

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Speaker 1: Trump in this instance would be the dad. He was also,

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Speaker 2: Well, we want to do is just extend. We don't

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Speaker 1: of mass destruction, Allied military strikes, and strategic government communications.

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Speaker 1: Out of all of the prosecutions that the Left is

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Speaker 1: going to say is clearly political in nature, this one

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Speaker 1: is about the most open and shut. He had classified information,

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Speaker 1: he mishandled classified information. And I know a certain president

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Speaker 1: who actually is able to classify and unclassified documents, who

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Speaker 1: was also indicted for this sort of thing. Now, I

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Speaker 1: noticed a little something. Is this is why hopefully you

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Speaker 1: folks listening to me every day, because I noticed things

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Speaker 1: that the average person does not. You see, I was

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Speaker 1: watching this President Trump press conference during commercial breaks of

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Speaker 1: this show. It was kind of going on in our

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Speaker 1: three o'clock hour, and Trump was asked about the Bolton indictment,

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Speaker 1: and here's what he said. Normal was just indicted by

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Speaker 1: a grand jury.

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Speaker 3: Maryland, you have a reaction to that. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: You tell me for the first time. But I think he's,

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Speaker 2: you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a bad guy, too bad.

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Speaker 3: But it's the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. What I noticed is I think Trump absolutely

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Speaker 1: knew that this indictment was. Now it's a grand jury indictment,

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Speaker 1: so not even the president knows if and when it's

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Speaker 1: coming down. But he has something of a tell when

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Speaker 1: he knows something, but he wants to pretend that he

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Speaker 1: didn't know it. Let's see if you can hear Let's

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Speaker 1: see if you can figure this out. Brandury, Maryland, you

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Speaker 1: have a.

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Speaker 3: Reaction to that. I didn't know that. You tell me

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Speaker 3: for the first time.

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Speaker 1: But that's it, he says, you're telling me that for

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Speaker 1: the first time. You know what I immediately thought of, and

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Speaker 1: I mean immediately thought of five years ago, I think

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Speaker 1: almost to the day, when Trump was at a rally

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Speaker 1: and he was told that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court justice, had passed away and almost in perfect rhythm

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Speaker 1: with Tiny Dancer by Elton John, which was playing at

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Speaker 1: his rally in the background. He said, almost the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing.

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Speaker 3: He just died. Wow, I didn't know that. I just

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Speaker 3: the first time.

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Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing. Listen to what he said

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Speaker 1: today about Bolton.

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Speaker 5: No, it was just indicted by a brandury Maryland.

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Speaker 1: You have a reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that, you tell me for the first time.

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Speaker 1: But okay, clearly he knew that Ruth Bader Kinsburg had died.

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Speaker 1: He was very obviously told it's the president would be

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Speaker 1: made away where very very quickly that a Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: justice had died.

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Speaker 3: She just died. Well, I didn't know that, I just

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Speaker 3: said the first time.

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Speaker 1: It just it was like a perfect this is Trump. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me now for the first time. I totally

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Speaker 1: didn't know that the president gets briefed on this sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm not saying that, you know, he's he

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Speaker 1: he put political pressure on a grand jury. Even a

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Speaker 1: president doesn't know who the grand jury is. That's sort

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Speaker 1: of the point. They operate in secret by necessity. It's

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Speaker 1: it's you know, a whole thing. But it was just hilarious.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in case you had forgotten about that,

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Speaker 1: it is one of the best moments of the first

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Speaker 1: Trump term. Here it is, in its entirety, Trump actually

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Speaker 1: showing the psychotic left how not to celebrate the death

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Speaker 1: of a political opponent.

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Speaker 3: She just died. Wow, I didn't know that. I just

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Speaker 3: for the first time. She led an amazing life. What

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Speaker 3: else can you say? She was an amazing woman. Whether

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Speaker 3: you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who

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Speaker 3: led an amazing life. I said to hear that, I

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Speaker 3: have said to hear that. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: It just was so perfect with the music in the background.

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Speaker 1: And that's all you have to say. Lefties, When Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk gets assassinated and it's all over social media, everybody

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Speaker 1: sees Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck on their phone,

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Speaker 1: all you have to say is, look, whether you agreed

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Speaker 1: or not, he was an amazing man who lived in

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Speaker 1: amazing like. You don't even need to say that. All

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Speaker 1: you need to say is look, whether you agreed with

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Speaker 1: him or not. This was a father, this was a husband,

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Speaker 1: and this was someone who clearly loved his family, clearly

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Speaker 1: had a deep and abiding faith in God, and nobody,

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Speaker 1: regardless of politics, deserves that. That's all you have to say.

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Speaker 1: They cannot bring themselves to say it. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson talks about the government shut down right

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Speaker 1: here on the Dan o'donald Show, Conservative thought, not just talk.

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Speaker 1: It is the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back to what

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Speaker 1: we are now in the sixteenth day of the Shumer shutdown,

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Speaker 1: the shutdown of the federal government that Democrats could end

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Speaker 1: just by crossing what amounts to I think a picket

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Speaker 1: line and joining with the Republicans in the Senate and

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Speaker 1: pass a clean continuing resolution A couple have, but not

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Speaker 1: enough to get to that sixty vote threshold. Joining us

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Speaker 1: now to talk more about it and the real reason

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Speaker 1: that the government is shut down is Wisconsin. Senator Ron

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Speaker 1: Johnson Sir, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dan, hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think the likelihood is that this

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Speaker 1: shutdown ends anytime soon? I heard the Speaker of the

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Speaker 1: House say yesterday, there's no chance it's ending before this

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Speaker 1: Saturday's No Kings protest, because that would look like capitulation.

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Speaker 1: Before all the crazies gathered together in cities across the

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Speaker 1: United States.

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Speaker 4: But we know that won't happen because I just came

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Speaker 4: back from voting on the House cr for I think

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Speaker 4: the tenth times in Democrats course voted no. So it's

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Speaker 4: not going to reopen up before the weekend. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how long the sing will go. Democrats are pretty

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Speaker 4: well dug in, and you know, that's what I really

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Speaker 4: want to talk about, you know, because they're bringing up

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Speaker 4: bi Obamacare enhanced temporary COVID pandemic subsidies. A lot of

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Speaker 4: us are literally focusing on what a disaster, what a

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Speaker 4: failure Obamacare has been, and so we've been developing off

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Speaker 4: lot of data. Just came from another presentation by somebody,

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Speaker 4: one of these culcil for Affordable Health coverage, and this

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Speaker 4: comports with figures I have. But let's just quick lay

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Speaker 4: this out. So the original CBO score for Obamacare said

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Speaker 4: it was going to save one hundred and thirty billion

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Speaker 4: dollars and it was going to ensure thirty one million

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Speaker 4: more people. Okay, Now the current estimate is Obamacare over

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Speaker 4: the next ten years will cost one point three trillion.

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Speaker 4: But here's the real kicker, Dame. Prior to Obamacare, Bombacare

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Speaker 4: is all about the individual market, right, I mean people

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Speaker 4: who that's kind of temporary coverage. You lose your job,

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Speaker 4: you have to go and buy a short term plan

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Speaker 4: before you get another job, you know, that type of thing.

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Speaker 4: But so prior to Obamacare, there were just under twelve

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Speaker 4: million people in the individual market. Right. Then Obamacare came

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Speaker 4: about and completely disrupted that individual markets. Insurance rates skyrocketed,

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Speaker 4: ductual skyrocketed because you really asked that small percentage, you know,

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Speaker 4: twelve million people to bear the full cost of covering

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Speaker 4: people with presisting conditions. They out lot high risk pools.

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Speaker 4: So again totally flawed structure. But by the time the

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Speaker 4: year of the pandemic, there were only fourteen million people

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Speaker 4: in that individual market. Nine million were subsidized. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: we went from nobody twelve million people, nobody subsidized buying

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Speaker 4: plans they could afford, plans they liked. Now only fourteen

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Speaker 4: million people, two million people more, nine million of them

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Speaker 4: are being subsidized. And they had to be subsidized because

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Speaker 4: insurance rates doubled in triples, sometimes quadruple to some states. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Then COVID hit and then he had Biden do the

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Speaker 4: enhanced subsidies. Now we're up to about twenty four million

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Speaker 4: people in the individual market, twenty million are being subsidized.

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Speaker 4: But here's the kicker. We know that there are millions

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Speaker 4: of those policies that people don't even know they have

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Speaker 4: because of unscrupulous brokers inations. So we spend all this money,

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Speaker 4: We're spending trillions of dollars on Obamacare to really ensure

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Speaker 4: about two to three maybe four million more people than

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Speaker 4: I think we've probably been ensuring them anyway, right, is

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Speaker 4: spending complete and utter failure and just help further the

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Speaker 4: point into the future of our children. But yet Democrats

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Speaker 4: are shutting down the government, Okay, putting people's lives in

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Speaker 4: turmoil because they're not getting paychecks. They're being forced work,

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Speaker 4: but they don't get paychecks because they want to throw

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Speaker 4: more money, good money, after this disaster, after this failure.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's certainly what it seems is though they're doing,

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Speaker 1: and not only that, they're attempting to shield from the

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Speaker 1: public the true cost of Obamacare. That if we're going

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Speaker 1: to make these subsidies permanent, well, isn't that an admission

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Speaker 1: that the Affordable Care Act was never affordable at all?

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Speaker 1: And then you add in as you said, the coverage

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Speaker 1: that we're providing through Medicaid, And it's not just the

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Speaker 1: emergency Medicaid funding for reimbursements of hospitals that treat illegal aliens,

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Speaker 1: that illegals are getting aliens. Just look at what happened

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Speaker 1: in California where they exploited a massive loophole and they're

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Speaker 1: spending billions on illegal alien healthcare through Medicaid. This is

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Speaker 1: a system that seems as though it is on the

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Speaker 1: verge of collapse. In fact, sir, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you a quick little story. So I have had a

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Speaker 1: knee issue pretty much for boy six months now, right,

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Speaker 1: and instead of surgery, my orthopedist said, okay, do some

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Speaker 1: physical therapy and it's done wonders. Right, The tears in

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Speaker 1: my knee are not significant enough. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: go in and perform surgery. And I'm feeling so good,

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Speaker 1: but the physical therapy sessions are about to run out.

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Speaker 1: And I asked the physical therapists today, I said, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, could we possibly just to extend this because

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Speaker 1: I think this is really doing wonders for my knee

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Speaker 1: And she said, well, insurance probably isn't going to cover that.

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Speaker 1: And I said, well, what if I pay out a

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Speaker 1: pocket she said, for a forty five minute physical therapy session,

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Speaker 1: which just amounts to stretching some light workouts and then

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Speaker 1: massaging my knee and leg. It would be five to

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Speaker 1: six hundred dollars a session. That's insanity, that's unaffordable in

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Speaker 1: the extreme.

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Speaker 4: That's because you have the third particator system when people

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Speaker 4: don't know and even the providers don't know what thing's

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Speaker 4: gonna cost. General, right, right, so you don't have the

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Speaker 4: benefits of free market system. But in particularly when a

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Speaker 4: government is the provider of the service or the payer

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Speaker 4: of the service, you just charge whatever you want, yeah,

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Speaker 4: because government has no idea how to control costs. So

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Speaker 4: that's what's happened in these individual markets is the insurance

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Speaker 4: rates are just skyrocket. There's a number of reasons that structurally,

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Speaker 4: but part of the reason is insurance companies know the

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Speaker 4: people aren't the actual patients aren't paying the cost. The

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Speaker 4: government privately is right, primarily is in and again you

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Speaker 4: got they got democrats here that are happy to throw

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Speaker 4: in this case, you know, four hundred billion dollars more

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Speaker 4: to extend what was supposed to be temporary and hand

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Speaker 4: subsidies during COVID. By the way, just real quick on

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Speaker 4: that here at the pobby line you're this is for

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Speaker 4: a young family of four parents. Thirty age of your

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Speaker 4: annual premium for your for Obamacare coverage is eighteen thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars right now, I understand that's being paid. If these

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Speaker 4: subsets go away, you only pay five hundred to that,

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Speaker 4: so you'll still be subsized in the tune of seventeen

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Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. If you have the poverty lines and

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Speaker 4: you get you're getting eighteen thousand dollars policy. That's what

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Speaker 4: Democrats are digging their heels and saying, we can't let

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Speaker 4: that that individual pay basically ten dollars a.

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Speaker 1: Week right for the healthcare you know. And it's what's

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Speaker 1: amazing is the exact same thing is happening in college

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Speaker 1: tuition in the student loan industry. There was just a

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Speaker 1: big story in the Milwaukee Journal sentineljsonline dot com yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I believe maybe the day before, about how Wisconsin is

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Speaker 1: now one of the most unaffordable states for college in

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Speaker 1: the entire country. Well, you can draw a straight line

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Speaker 1: to the amount of student loans that have been federalized.

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Speaker 1: I mean, college was extremely affordable back in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventies and early nineteen eighties. It was only when the

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Speaker 1: government got involved and handed out student loans to every

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Speaker 1: single person and then guaranteed them and then gradually sort

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Speaker 1: of took over and cornered the market that college tuition

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Speaker 1: is the point where the average American has no chance

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Speaker 1: of ever affording it. I mean, you're looking at UW. Madison.

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Speaker 1: I believe the tuition all in is somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: neighborhood of thirty thousand dollars. That's for a state school.

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Speaker 4: Back in the seventies, I paid one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: a quarter times three quarters four hundred and fifty, and

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Speaker 4: the same amounts for books every quarter.

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Speaker 1: That's insane.

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Speaker 4: So no, it is absurd. And again, so all that

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Speaker 4: money has indebted our children, dug them in an enormous hole.

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Speaker 4: And all the money just went into colleges and university

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Speaker 4: so they have way more administrators than they used to

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Speaker 4: have for a student. Then you know, build all these

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Speaker 4: fabulous buildings, which great. I mean, I don't mind infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: But again, we just artificially driven up the cost of

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Speaker 4: college to an absurd level. Now I do ask, I mean,

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Speaker 4: what we'll get to some of these elite schools coming

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Speaker 4: and bringing students to lobby me for more government funding.

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Speaker 4: The first question I asked him was how much you

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Speaker 4: guys paying for tuition? Yeah, and they tell me my

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Speaker 4: jaw drops, and then ask them, do you think it's

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Speaker 4: really worth you know, fill in the blank, fifty sixty

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Speaker 4: thousand bucks? In Coursegely, those mysterators don't bring their students

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Speaker 4: into my office next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see, I could see why they don't.

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Speaker 1: But it's the exact same principle when you take away

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Speaker 1: free market economy and you instead have the government as

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Speaker 1: the guaranteed payor what is the incentive to compete on costs,

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Speaker 1: whether it's universities, whether it's medical care, whether it's anything.

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Speaker 1: And it's just remarkable that the the left wing, which

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Speaker 1: is now the dominant force in the Democrat Party, even

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's scared of them. They just don't understand this.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's just that blind allegiance to socialism

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Speaker 1: and the flawed idea and belief system that well, if

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Speaker 1: the government has control over everything, then it can dole

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Speaker 1: out largess to all people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're singular questions for power. And you know they

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Speaker 4: obtained power through government, because that's that's pretty good definition

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Speaker 4: of government, by the way. Power. Yeah, and as Lord

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Speaker 4: ask said, power corrupts, and so government is bind large corrupt.

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Speaker 4: It's been captured by the very anity's agencies, organizations of

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Speaker 4: businesses that they were meant to regulate. But of this

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Speaker 4: just for increasing costs, increasing spending across the board. Again,

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Speaker 4: the free market basically guarantees three things west possible pricing, cost,

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Speaker 4: best possible quality, best possible level customer service. Two areas

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Speaker 4: our economy where we've basically driven free market competition out

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Speaker 4: of his education and healthcare, and we are habitually dissatisfied

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Speaker 4: its results because it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: He is Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson joining me here on

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Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald show. Sir, let's get right back to

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Speaker 1: where we started. When do you think this shutdown ends?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We are going to vote on my Shutdown Fareness Act,

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Speaker 4: which again you know I proposed the and we voted

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Speaker 4: on my Eliminate Shutdowns Act. Every Democrat vote against that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: we also had Republican appropriators you know, voted against it

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Speaker 4: as well. They said it was going to undercount the

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Speaker 4: appropriation process. I've been here fifteen years. Should have passed

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty appropriation bills before the end of

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Speaker 4: the year on time. Yeah, we passed six ninety six

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Speaker 4: failure rate. Okay, so that doesn't work. But we are

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Speaker 4: going to vote on my Shutdown Fairness Acts, which just

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Speaker 4: simply says, okay, if we're going to force government employees

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Speaker 4: to work across the board, not just the military, not

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Speaker 4: just local, you know, all the agencies. I don't reallytically

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Speaker 4: like if we're going to force those people to work,

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Speaker 4: because we call them the central we should at least

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Speaker 4: pay them, right, So it'll be realistics that we're gonna

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Speaker 4: vote in that next week, and we'll see if Democrats first,

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Speaker 4: are they going to come back and actually open up

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Speaker 4: the government after they're no King's rally or the I

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Speaker 4: Heted America rallies I think House members are calling it,

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Speaker 4: or or are they going to uh then vote down

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Speaker 4: the very practical and reasonable proposal to we'll just pay

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Speaker 4: the people are forcing to work. We're gonna pay them

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Speaker 4: one way together, they're gonna get back based. We might

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Speaker 4: as well pay them now. Okay, don't don't make people struggle.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't.

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Speaker 4: Don't play with people's lives with playing with your Obamacare

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Speaker 4: games here.

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Speaker 1: Senator Johnson, always appreciate it, sir, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You two Dan O'Donnell's show coming right back after this,

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Speaker 1: Lures and Dodgers Game three coming up in just a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Brewers, of course down two games to

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Speaker 1: none as the series moves to Los Angeles, and as

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Speaker 1: if the crew didn't have enough to play for only

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Speaker 1: three games. Three times in Major League Baseball history has

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Speaker 1: a team that lost the first two games of a

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Speaker 1: best of seven series at home come back to win

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Speaker 1: the series. All three times happened in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: So the Brewers would be making some history if they're

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Speaker 1: able to come back. You can absolutely not get down

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Speaker 1: three games to none, that it's next to impossible to

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Speaker 1: come back from that. But not only are the Brewers

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Speaker 1: playing to save their season, there is a growing sentiment

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Speaker 1: across Major League Baseball that the Brewers might actually be

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Speaker 1: playing to save baseball itself. In twenty twenty seven, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Passen of ESPN dot com wrote a piece that I

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Speaker 1: think put into words what a lot of baseball people

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Speaker 1: are thinking and that because of labor unrest, there is

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Speaker 1: almost certainly going to be an owner lockout before the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven season. The current collective bargaining agreement goes

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Speaker 1: until the end of the twenty twenty sixth season. But

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Speaker 1: much like nineteen ninety four, the two sides appear to

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Speaker 1: be so far a heart that labor piece is looking

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Speaker 1: less and less likely, and as you might imagine thirty

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Speaker 1: two years later, the sticking point is going to be

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Speaker 1: a salary cap. How can the Brewers save baseball well

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Speaker 1: simply by beating the Los Angeles Dodgers. I know, already

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Speaker 1: difficult because they're down two games to none and now

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Speaker 1: they have to play three in Los Angeles and effectively

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Speaker 1: win all three or two of three, just to stave

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Speaker 1: off elimination. But the Dodgers have committed more in salary

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Speaker 1: to Shohei O'tani and the two starters that the Brewers

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Speaker 1: faced Blake Smell and was called him Blake Smell. He

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Speaker 1: absolutely did not smell. In Game one against the Brewers,

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Speaker 1: he fakes the minimum batters through eight and Yamamoto. In

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Speaker 1: Game two, he threw the first complete game in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball's playoffs since twenty seventeen, they pretty much have

989
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: more committed to those three guys then the Brewers have

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Speaker 1: to their entire roster. I mean you add in Mookie Betts.

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Speaker 1: The entire Dodgers organization, just top to bottom, is incredibly

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Speaker 1: well paid. The roster is the literal best that money

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Speaker 1: can buy. And it seems as though the team coasted

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Speaker 1: through the regular season by saying their pitchers are quote

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Speaker 1: unquote injured and dramatically limiting their innings so they come

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Speaker 1: in fresh. If you're wondering why the Brewers' bats all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden just went to sleep, it's in large

998
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Speaker 1: part because they have only faced what four pitchers in

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Speaker 1: this series, one in Game two. But that's because the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers just have such incredible arms in their starting rotation

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Speaker 1: and they're very well rested. But Passen's argument is that

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Speaker 1: if the Dodgers win back to back World Series, and

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Speaker 1: remember they are are the defending World champions with a

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Speaker 1: roster that was constructed with millions and millions and millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of dollars in deferred money, meaning like the

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Speaker 1: old Bobby Bonia contract, Shoheo Tani is going to be

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Speaker 1: paid by the organization long after he retires. He's deferring

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Speaker 1: a substantial portion of the money he would be owed

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Speaker 1: now to essentially fund his retirement until he's sixty years

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Speaker 1: old or whatever it is, because the Dodgers operate without

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Speaker 1: a salary cap and are able to just outspend every

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Speaker 1: other organization, including even the vaunted Yankees. Remember the last

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Speaker 1: time that there were some efforts at control over salaries,

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Speaker 1: it was actually the last time. In Passing points this

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Speaker 1: out in his piece on ESPN, the last time there

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Speaker 1: was a back to back World Series champion. Believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, it was the Yankees in the early twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. Baseball has gone twenty five years

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Speaker 1: without back to back champions. Now, that has sort of

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Speaker 1: bolstered the argument, well there is parody. Well, small market

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Speaker 1: teams can compete. The Kansas City Royals won the World

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Speaker 1: Series about ten years ago. You've had the Miami than

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Speaker 1: Florida Marlins win the World Series years back. But remember

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Speaker 1: the entire concept of the movie money Ball and the

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Speaker 1: book that inspired it, is that it's an unfair game.

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Speaker 1: It is a fundamentally rigged game because of just how

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Speaker 1: much more money the richest teams can spend than the poorest.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the Brewers have made the playoffs consistently for

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Speaker 1: the past seven years, but they invariably will run into

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Speaker 1: a better funded opponent in the playoffs, and the people

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Speaker 1: who want to have a lockout to try to take

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Speaker 1: care of this to bring even more parody to the

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Speaker 1: game so that clubs like the Brewers just aren't going

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Speaker 1: to run into this playoff buzzsaw a year after year

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Speaker 1: after year after year are actually rooting for the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: to win, because if the Brewers win, well, then they

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Speaker 1: prove that, hey, even the team with a payroll barely

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Speaker 1: above that of Shohei o Tani's salary can actually win

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Speaker 1: and actually beat the highest salaried team in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: We don't need a lockout at all, but there are

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of people, and most importantly, there are

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of team owners who are saying, we

1043
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Speaker 1: absolutely do need a lockout if the players don't agree

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Speaker 1: to a salary cap. Otherwise the game is going to

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: just be played by the wealthiest team. Now, as you

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Speaker 1: folks all know, I'm a big soccer fan, and this

1047
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Speaker 1: is the way it is in top tier soccer. This

1048
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Speaker 1: is almost the reason that there is a Champions League.

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Speaker 1: So in the domestic leagues there's an English League, saw

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Speaker 1: the Premier League. There of course various levels. There's La

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Speaker 1: Liga in Spain, there's you know, Siria in Italy. There

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Speaker 1: is one or two teams that dominate the Premier League.

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Speaker 1: They're known as the Big Six and they're the six

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Speaker 1: clubs that spend more than anybody, and it's almost impossible

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Speaker 1: for a team like Leicester City or Nottingham Forest to

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Speaker 1: actually win. In fact, when Lester City did win the

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Speaker 1: Premier League championship some years ago, it was considered one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest upsets in the history of sports because

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Speaker 1: they were actually able to win against clubs that are

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Speaker 1: just way more able to spend on top players across

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Speaker 1: the world than they are. Baseball is getting to that

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Speaker 1: point when you got the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets. Shockingly,

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Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays were up there in spending and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it, they're still alive in the ALCS.

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Speaker 1: They got loop in the first two games at home

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Speaker 1: by the much lower salaried Seattle Mariners. But the point

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Speaker 1: is that you're seeing the same teams over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. If the Brewers are able to win,

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Speaker 1: if they're actually able to come back and win this series, well,

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Speaker 1: then the owners might not have the best argument. You

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Speaker 1: might be able to convince more owners. Okay, okay, it's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily just raw spending that wins playoff series and championships.

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Speaker 1: You need to have, you know, great bullpen arms. You

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Speaker 1: need to have a great manager. You need all these

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Speaker 1: other things in addition to spending money on stars. All right,

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Speaker 1: So as if there wasn't enough pressure on the Brewers

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Speaker 1: win and save baseball, lose and there's probably going to

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Speaker 1: be a lockout in twenty twenty seven Brewers and Dodgers

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Speaker 1: Game three coming up, and so too is more of

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Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald's show. Stay tuned, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show. Coming off in

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Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour, we will talk with Wisconsin Congressman

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Speaker 1: Tom Tiffany, who is running for governor and is furious

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Speaker 1: about that scandal that we told you about surrounding the

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Speaker 1: Department of Public Instruction, basically covering up for pedophile and

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Speaker 1: groomer teachers and substitutes and student aids and administrators. It

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Speaker 1: was a bombshell year long investigation by the Capital Times,

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Speaker 1: which apparently is calling itself the Cap Times. Now we

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Speaker 1: will talk about that, and also Dan o'donald's show exclusive

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Speaker 1: a walker Shaw alderman attempts to dox Ice agents operating

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Speaker 1: undercover in Walkershaw, but something goes hilariously wrong. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course the story that everybody is now talking about

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Speaker 1: across the country, The Brewers Karen who has been fired

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Speaker 1: from her job at Manpower after an incident during Game

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Speaker 1: two of the Brewers Dodgers NLCS, and the first pitch

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Speaker 1: of game three. Now just a couple of minutes away.

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Speaker 1: Time right now to name the unsung hero of the day.

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Speaker 1: Today's unsung Heroes of the day are a group of

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Speaker 1: mostly second graders at Lincoln Elementary School in Port Washington.

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Speaker 1: According to today's TMJ four reporter Alex gall, they raised

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Speaker 1: more than one hundred and thirty dollars selling handmade rubber

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Speaker 1: band bracelets to help repair their broken playground. The decades

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Speaker 1: old jungle gym has been closed for most of the

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Speaker 1: fall due to rust and exposed metal that made it

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Speaker 1: unsafe for students to use and for months now, Milo

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Speaker 1: and his after school friends Jackson Adeline Marlowe and third

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Speaker 1: grader Nora have been taking action. Every day after school,

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Speaker 1: the students have been creating rubber band bracelets in the

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Speaker 1: school's gymnasium. What started as a fun activity quickly became

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Speaker 1: a serious fundraising effort. Milo said, we have a new

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Speaker 1: kid in our class and she hasn't been able to

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Speaker 1: play on the playground, and I think everyone should be

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Speaker 1: able to. We switched it to one dollar for bracelet,

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Speaker 1: he means, because I don't think anyone's going to want

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Speaker 1: to pay for a two dollars bracelet. Good thinking, Milo.

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Speaker 1: The young entrepreneurs have cornered the school market, selling their

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Speaker 1: bracelets to classmates and teachers throughout Lincoln Elementary Principal Jane

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Speaker 1: Gennerman said she was taken aback when the students approached

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Speaker 1: her with the donation. She said, this is an example

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Speaker 1: of students that took doing really good things even further

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Speaker 1: than just in their classroom or playing on the playground.

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Speaker 1: They took it to the point of trying to make

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Speaker 1: an impact in a larger way, and what a cool thing.

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Speaker 1: The school actually patched up the playground this week It's

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Speaker 1: now reopened, at least for the time being. Officials are

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Speaker 1: still waiting on permanent replacement parts they have already ordered.

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Speaker 1: The student's money will instead go to the school's parent

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Speaker 1: organization to help with future renovations. What an incredible story.

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Speaker 1: Kudos to Alex Gahl. TMJ four does a remarkable job

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Speaker 1: finding these little human interest stories. Are Unsung Heroes of

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Speaker 1: the Day. Milo Jackson, Adeline Marlowe and Nora Congratulations, you

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Speaker 1: guys and gals are doing incredible work. If you have

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Speaker 1: It was a truly shocking investigation. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: it extensively. In three o'clock hour, the cap Times found

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Speaker 1: the State Department of Public Instruction investigated more than two

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Speaker 1: hundred teachers, aids, substitutes and administrators from twenty eighteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three who were accused of sexual misconduct or

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Speaker 1: grooming behaviors towards students, and that this was not at

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Speaker 1: all known to the public the department's internal records, according

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Speaker 1: to the cap Time show these allegations included educators sexually

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Speaker 1: assaulting students, soliciting nude photos from children, or initiating sexual

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Speaker 1: relationships immediately after students graduated, and instead of actually following

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Speaker 1: through those teachers and aids and administrators were allowed to

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Speaker 1: simply surrender their licenses and the investigation would disappear. There

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Speaker 1: are no records, In other words, in way too many

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Speaker 1: cases of some of the worst crimes that you could

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Speaker 1: possible simply commit as a teacher or someone with access

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Speaker 1: to children. This is one of the biggest scandals in

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Speaker 1: the history of the state's Department of Public Instruction. I

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Speaker 1: believe it is one of the biggest scandals in the

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Speaker 1: history of education here in Wisconsin. Joining us now to

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Speaker 1: talk about it is Wisconsin Congressman and Republican gubernatorial candidate

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Speaker 1: Tom Tiffany. Tom, Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good to joining you this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Dan, were you as shocked reading this last night as

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's unbelievable that this is happening, but it's clear

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Speaker 5: the lack of transparency that goes on with the Department

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Speaker 5: of Public Instruction. But should we be surprised, Dan, We're

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Speaker 5: seeing the collapse of the education system here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Think about it. One in three fourth graders can read

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Speaker 5: at grade level. Here in Wisconsin. We have a long,

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Speaker 5: proud tradition of having kids get a good education. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter whether it's with private or parochial in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 5: they get a good education. It has collapsed over the

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Speaker 5: last about fifteen years. And remember, while Jill Underley's at

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Speaker 5: the head of it now, the person that was the

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Speaker 5: head of the Department Public Instruction prior to her was

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Speaker 5: Tony Ebs exactly, Governor Evers. Governor Evers, the so called

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Speaker 5: education governor. This all started way back on his watch.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen this slow decline that appears to be

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Speaker 5: gaining steam as we go along here where I mean,

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Speaker 5: we've fallen behind Mississippi. And now you find out that

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Speaker 5: Jill Underley is concerned about two things. She's just concerned

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Speaker 5: about protecting pedophiles and the system. She wants to protect

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Speaker 5: the system at all costs.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, she is blaming the utter eye.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is I don't want to say it

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Speaker 1: is criminal negligence, but I think it is bordering on

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Speaker 1: criminal negligence. The way that these investigations were just sort

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Speaker 1: of allowed to slip through the cracks in the way

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Speaker 1: that these are tracked and these are handled. She's trying

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Speaker 1: to blame this through a spokesperson. Of course, she did

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Speaker 1: not sit down for an interview with the Cap Times.

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Speaker 1: No real surprises there. She claimed, Well, there might be

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Speaker 1: a conflict of interest because she is in charge of

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Speaker 1: teacher license. Give me a break. She was avoiding that

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Speaker 1: story like the plague. But through a spokesperson she said

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Speaker 1: that they just don't have the funding because Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the state legislature just are not giving them enough in

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Speaker 1: the budget to actually investigate all of these claims. This

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Speaker 1: is directly from the Cap Times. Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: read you this quote. In Underley's most recent state budget request,

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Speaker 1: she sought over six hundred thousand dollars for modernizing the

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Speaker 1: agency's online background checks and licensing platform. The proposal was

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Speaker 1: rejected by lawmakers. Quote underly requested no additional funding specifically

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Speaker 1: for educator misconduct investigations. In other words, if she really

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Speaker 1: wanted more funding for this problem, clearly, I think Republicans

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Speaker 1: would have given her the money. She just didn't ask

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Speaker 1: for any money for specifically investigations into teacher misconduct.

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Speaker 5: She's refusing to take accountability for the failure that is

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Speaker 5: at the Department of Public Instruction. As a parent, in

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Speaker 5: having talked to a whole lot of parents over the years,

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Speaker 5: in the kids school that our kids went to, we

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Speaker 5: expected two things. We expected our kids to be educated,

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Speaker 5: well that is not happening in Wisconsin at this time.

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Speaker 5: And we also expected to make sure that they were

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Speaker 5: taking care of the safety of our children. The two

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Speaker 5: fundamental things that's all us parents ask for is safety

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Speaker 5: and a good education. And Jill Underley and the Department

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Speaker 5: of Public Instruction, and by the way, Governor ebers should

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Speaker 5: be included in this because this started way back with him.

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Speaker 5: That is what has happened to Wisconsin's educational system. This

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Speaker 5: needs to be reformed. And I can tell you if

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Speaker 5: elected as governor, I will make sure that we reverse

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Speaker 5: what is going on here in the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: We will set higher standards, not lower standards. Like Jill Underley,

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Speaker 5: we will have honest report cards that parents can count on,

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Speaker 5: and we will make sure that your kids are safe

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Speaker 5: in their schools. And if we have school administrators that

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Speaker 5: do not follow through on that, then they will be

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Speaker 5: revolved as well.

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Speaker 1: They should. Tom Tiffany joining us here on the Dan

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Speaker 1: o'donald show. He is, of course running as a Republican

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Speaker 1: for governor. He's also Wisconsin co riskman. Does Jill Underley

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Speaker 1: need to resign as state superintendent?

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Speaker 5: I think she needs to take a deep look whether

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Speaker 5: she is capable of doing this job. It appears that

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Speaker 5: it is not the case. I mean, think about another

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Speaker 5: case that. I mean, it's all stacking up, right, Dan.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you don't go to someone and say, oh,

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Speaker 5: you know, you should resign when there's a one off

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Speaker 5: mistakes happen. But this has become a pattern. One in

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Speaker 5: three fourth graders being able to read that grade level.

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Speaker 5: This happening in regards to pedophiles. But also think about

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Speaker 5: the MPs situation just in the last year where the

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Speaker 5: Department of Public Instruction did not reveal the financial the

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Speaker 5: financial missteps by MPs before there before their referendum, the

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Speaker 5: referendum barely passed. If DPI would have revealed that information

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Speaker 5: to the voters of Milwaukee, they almost certainly would have

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Speaker 5: not voted for that reference. And it's those type of

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Speaker 5: things that have become a pattern in the Department of

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Speaker 5: public instructions, it is time for change. So you're saying

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Speaker 5: she and by the way, and by the way, Dan,

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Speaker 5: if if that change doesn't come from Jill Underly, it's

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Speaker 5: going to come from me as the governor, the next

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Speaker 5: governor of the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Now Underley was just elected in the boy past. What

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Speaker 1: would it be six months, right, so she is just

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Speaker 1: starting a new four year term. Would you as governor?

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Speaker 1: If she doesn't resign amid this scandal. You make a

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Speaker 1: great point that I had actually mentioned that a couple

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Speaker 1: of hours ago, the fact that DPI just completely covered

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Speaker 1: up for the state's largest school district so they could

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Speaker 1: get a ridiculous money grab when they were already sitting

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred plus million dollars in federal taxpayer money

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Speaker 1: that they could not possibly account for just refusing to

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Speaker 1: turn over required documents. If she does not resign amid

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Speaker 1: those that the test score scan, I think it's also

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Speaker 1: equally a big scandal as I as I've outlined, for

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Speaker 1: she's a year practically, the fact that she unilaterally changed

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Speaker 1: testing standards so it looked as though Wisconsin students were

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Speaker 1: performing much better than they were. If she does not resign,

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Speaker 1: amid this, and I have no reason to believe that

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Speaker 1: she's going to resign. Would you, as governor put pressure

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Speaker 1: on her to resign? I mean, what could you do

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Speaker 1: if if that doesn't work, to maybe take some of

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Speaker 1: the power in administering education away from the Department of

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Speaker 1: Public Instruction because under Underly and under Evers, and under

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Speaker 1: pretty much every state superintendent for the past three decades,

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Speaker 1: they have proven they are unfit to lead. Would you

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Speaker 1: would you commit to doing kind of what President Trump

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Speaker 1: did and try to dissolve like he did the Department

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Speaker 1: of Education, the Department of pub the construction.

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Speaker 5: It's always about follow the money, and that is what

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Speaker 5: we would do with the budgeting process, is we would

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Speaker 5: make sure that money goes to students and parents, good teachers.

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 5: Let's pay good teachers more money, and let's put that

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Speaker 5: money in local communities rather than the system. We're going

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01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 5: to change where the money goes to so that it's

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Speaker 5: incentivized for success. Let's get the money to those that

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01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 5: are being successful. Because I'm willing to spend more money

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Speaker 5: on education, but only if there is accountability and we

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Speaker 5: are going to get successful outcomes for the people of

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Speaker 5: the State of Wisconsin for students and parents. So that's

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Speaker 5: what I would do, is use the money to make

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Speaker 5: sure that we get results for the taxpayers in the

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Speaker 5: state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Earlier, you touched on education standards and test scores being

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Speaker 1: much lower in Wisconsin now then in Mississippi. I want

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Speaker 1: to touch on that because it's being called the Mississippi Miracle,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how closely you were following what's

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Speaker 1: happened in Mississippi and just how they have turned things around.

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Speaker 1: They completely overhauled how they teach reading and what they

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Speaker 1: do is they've gone back to phonics based education, but

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Speaker 1: they also if a student is behind significantly in I

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Speaker 1: believe it's third grade, they will actually hold that student back.

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Speaker 1: And as a result of that, they've got kids who are,

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Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately embarrassed that they've got to repeat a grade,

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01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: but they're getting those basic skills, which is clearly serving

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Speaker 1: them much better later in their educational journey. Would you

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Speaker 1: commit to doing something like that to following Mississippi's lead

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Speaker 1: here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: There has to be accountability and to leave the phonics

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01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 5: portion out of reading is is really a disservice to

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01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 5: students here in Wisconsin. It's why our reading scores have

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Speaker 5: fallen so much. So yes, it does need to be revamped.

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Speaker 5: I believe the Fort Test, which is a bit of

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Speaker 5: an arcane issue, but the test that's given to students

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Speaker 5: at our colleges of teaching, and it's the foundations of reading.

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Speaker 5: That test needs to be reinstituted in all of our

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Speaker 5: colleges of teaching here in Wisconsin, and it needs to

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Speaker 5: be rigorously applied. So any student graduating from a UW

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Speaker 5: System college, they pass that Fort test showing that they

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Speaker 5: know how to teach reading. And so that's really going

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01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 5: to be a key to doing The second thing is

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Speaker 5: I will put the colleges of teaching here in Wisconsin

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Speaker 5: on notice. This is in part your fault because you've

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01:30:56,120 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 5: used these social engineering programs. You've been involved with Wolke

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01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 5: and DEI stuff. Knock it off. Get back to the

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Speaker 5: basics of teaching as we've had. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: about the teachers dan that I had in school, and

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Speaker 5: many of the teachers that my daughters had in public

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Speaker 5: school here in northern Wisconsin. They were great teachers, but

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Speaker 5: that's because they were taught pedagogy properly. We need to

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Speaker 5: get back to that, and our schools of teaching here

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01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin need to reform in order to turn out

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Speaker 5: teachers that will teach our kids as they should.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Congressman Tom Tiffany, a candidate for governor next year,

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Speaker 1: joining me here on the Dan o'donald show. Sir, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so very much for being so generous with your time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, great to join you.

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Speaker 1: Dan anytime, sir. You are listening to the Dan o'donald Show.

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Speaker 1: Back in just three minutes. We get now to the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell's show. Exclusive about a Waka Shaw alderman whose

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Speaker 1: name is Rico Camacho. No, seriously, his name is Rico Camacho.

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Speaker 1: He is not a professional wrestler, a luchador if you will.

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01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: He is not the president played by Terry Cruz in

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01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: the fantastic movie Idiocracy, although when you hear what it

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01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: is that alderman Comacho did, you will swear he is

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01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 1: straight out of the movie Idiocracy. Yesterday, on his Facebook page,

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Speaker 1: Rico not So Macho Camacho posted a picture a couple

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Speaker 1: of them, actually, of a group of guys just sort

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Speaker 1: of standing around on the streets of downtown Wauka Shaw.

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Speaker 1: They look like just normal dudes. They've got their hands

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Speaker 1: in their pockets. A couple of them are wearing baseball hats.

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Speaker 1: They just start standing around. Well not so. Mancho Camacho

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Speaker 1: gets it in his head that they're actually undercover ICE agents,

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Speaker 1: and the caption for his two pictures is everyone please

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01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: please stay alert, stay inside. ICE is in Wauka Shaw

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01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: in the corner of parentheses, people's park they are undercovery.

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Speaker 1: Then uses a bunch of hashtags designed to do people

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Speaker 1: still actually use hashtags. I know I'm middle aged, but

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01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: even I'm hip enough to know that nobody uses hashtags anymore.

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01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: But he uses a bunch of hashtags designed clearly to

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Speaker 1: get as many people as possible to see this hashtag.

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Speaker 1: Waukashaw dou why, Wauka Shaw Strong, Wauca Shaw County, La

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Speaker 1: Casa de Esperanza dou w dy, Lacasa Day Esperanza Charter School,

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Speaker 1: and school district of Wauka Shaw. So he's very concerned

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Speaker 1: that the children getting off of school at those school

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Speaker 1: at Waukeshaw School districts or La Casa Esperanza Charter School

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Speaker 1: are going to be walking right into an ambush. These

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Speaker 1: undercover ICE agents are just going to tackle them to

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Speaker 1: the ground, get them into an unmarked van and drive

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Speaker 1: them off to parts unknown, probably down to that El

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01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Salvadoran hell hole that they took the poor marilynd father,

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01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: who actually turned out to be a drug gang Haartel

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Speaker 1: affiliated human trafficker. Kilmar Abrego Garcia not so Macho. Camacho

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Speaker 1: was very scared about this, ununtil he realized that those

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Speaker 1: guys were not actually ICE agents and in fact just

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01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: random dudes. He issued to follow up post on Facebook quote,

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Speaker 1: So I want to be clear that I I received

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Speaker 1: information from concerned constituent because there was a belief that

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01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 1: Ice was by people's park. I was completely incorrect that

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Speaker 1: these people all caps were not ICE agents. I should

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01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: have done my due diligence and checked to verify, but

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01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: I overreacted. I apologize to anyone and the men in

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01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: the photo gung to lunch. That's a typo going to

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01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: lunch that may have felt a potential harm to this situation.

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01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: I will ensure I take this as a learning opportunity

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01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: and take full responsibility for this. Hashtag City of Waukeshaw,

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01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: hashtag Wakashaw. Can we please get Alderman not so Macho

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01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Camacho to stop using hashtags. And also, you know, the

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01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: attempts to docs and potentially get a mob of people

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01:35:55,439 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: to harass innocent men in downtown wauke Shaw. Seriously, I

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01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: know I'm making fun of this, but this had the

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01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: potential to be a very serious situation. What have we

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01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: seen in Chicago, in Portland, in Los Angeles where there

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01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: were full on riots people were trying to prevent ICE

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01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: from doing their job because ICE, of course, is President

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01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: Trump's own personal gestapo. What would have happened if someone

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01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: actually saw not so Mancho Camacho's post and went down

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01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 1: to where those men were standing, armed with the information

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01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: that they were clearly undercover ICE agents. And by the way,

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01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: how does way we we We hear from the left

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01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: all of the time about how you know, racist Republicans

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01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: they profile people, and uh boy, I unfortunately, I've got

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01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: to get to the story that has now just gotten

1422
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: massive international attention. The poor woman who dared to say

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01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 1: how about we call Ice to the guy from Los

1424
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: Angeles swearing at her as he's filming her during Game

1425
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: two of the Brewers Dodgers series. Uh well, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, fine,

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01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: We'll get to that next. I I have not wanted

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01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: to talk about this because this just this, this gives

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01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: in to the left wing feeding frenzy surrounding these sorts

1429
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: of things, and uh, it just it is. Whatever. Okay,

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01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get to that next. We'll get to

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01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: that next segment. But all we hear from left wingers

1432
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: is and this this this woman, this woman that the

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01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: woman who was fired from Manpower is on the board

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01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: of the Make a Wish Foundation. She was racially profiling, right,

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01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure by all we've all seen the video. She said,

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01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: let's call ice because the guys who were taunting her

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01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:56,440
Speaker 1: appeared to be Hispanic. She was profiling, Well, was not Alderman,

1438
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: not so macho camacho? Racially pro filing a bunch of

1439
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: white dudes who clearly had to be cops or ice

1440
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: agents because they were standing around with their hands in

1441
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: their pockets in the afternoon in downtown Waukeshaw. That there's

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01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: no other possible reason that a group of guys, I

1443
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they were going to a restaurant, maybe

1444
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: they were going to one of the many establishments in

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01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: downtown Waukeshaw. No, no, no, they have to be Ice

1446
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: agents and watch out, watch out, because these are evil

1447
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: white ice agents. And what would have happened? I seriously

1448
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: want to know what would have happened if a group

1449
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: of people had seen the Facebook post and gone to

1450
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: confront those guys, and heaven forbid, started to attack them.

1451
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: And we have seen coordinated attacks on ice agents, and

1452
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: in fact they were and have been timed to the

1453
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: No King's protest back in June. Wouldn't you know it?

1454
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: There is a No King's protest coming up the day

1455
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: after tomorrow. So what if these people are all agitated,

1456
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: they're all amped up, and they're loaded for bear on

1457
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: a group of dudes who just happens to be standing

1458
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: in downtown Waukeshaw because an alderman was inciting people to

1459
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: what way he was warning the poor innocent children that

1460
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: ice agents were there, or or like so many left

1461
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: wing politicians who claim to be tough guys, and I

1462
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: think this is actually what not so macho Camacho was

1463
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: doing trying to be a little bit more macho than

1464
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: he otherwise normally is. I think he was saying, just

1465
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: like Mayor Brandon Johnson in Chicago and that idiot mayor

1466
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Karen Bass said, not in my city.

1467
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: ICE agents cannot come in my say we're going to

1468
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,759
Speaker 1: resist them. I think this was not just a warning

1469
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: to the poor illegal immigrant children of Waukeshaw. I think

1470
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 1: this was something that amounts to a call to action

1471
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: to the people who hate ICE agents, who hate President Trump,

1472
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: who hate the idea that immigration law is actually being enforced.

1473
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: And this guy was taking it upon himself to dox

1474
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: these agents. Too bad. Not so, Macho Camacho was truly

1475
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: the living embodiment of idiocracy here in Wisconsin and couldn't

1476
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 1: even get it right. He was absolutely attempting to dox

1477
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: these ICE agents. Oh look here, these guys are eight.

1478
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 1: Anyone recognized he's posting their picture on the internet. What

1479
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: other possible reason could there be? And this is another

1480
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,879
Speaker 1: thing that left wingers have been demad Well, ICE agents

1481
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: need to take off their mask, why so you can

1482
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: dox them, so you can do exactly what. Not so

1483
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: Macho Camacho was trying to do, Folks, this could have

1484
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: very easily had a very very bad ending. And quite frankly,

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01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Alderman, not so Macho Camacho's apology will

1486
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 1: cut it all right, we get into the story of

1487
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: the woman they're calling Brewers fan Karen when we come

1488
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: back here on the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back to

1489
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show. I can guarantee you that not

1490
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: a single other member of the media is going to

1491
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: make a big deal out of a sitting walk Shaw

1492
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 1: Alderman mistakenly identifying random men as ice agents and attempting

1493
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: to dox them or potentially get a crowd of people

1494
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,520
Speaker 1: to harass them, as has happened in other city. Guarantee

1495
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 1: because the rest of the media is far too busy

1496
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: obsessing over a story that is just tailor. This is

1497
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: like catnip to the left wing media. I'm sure you

1498
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: have heard about it. The Brewers Karen a woman in

1499
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: Milwaukee who was fired not just from her job at Manpower,

1500
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: but also she was removed from the board of the

1501
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Make a Wish Foundation here in Milwaukee after she well

1502
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: made an unfortunate and yes, pretty racist remark to a

1503
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: Dodgers fan who was rather obviously attempting to get a

1504
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: reaction out of Brewers fans right behind home plate after

1505
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: it was obvious the Dodgers were going to win Game

1506
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: two of this seven game series. Here is the video

1507
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: that has been all over social media for the past

1508
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Why is everybody quiet? Why's there many?

1509
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Why there was everybody quiet? What is this?

1510
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, colis call I guess this? And we're veteran,

1511
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 3: any girl, We're veteran.

1512
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 2: Towards I said, tell me good luck, good luck, good luck.

1513
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 3: Call I callum callum an idiot.

1514
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: That fan is named Rico Fosata. He had two tickets

1515
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: to the Dodgers Brewers game at American Family Field on

1516
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, and Fosato told Fox LA that he endured

1517
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: some taunts when the Brewers got up early, but when

1518
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:58,480
Speaker 1: the Dodgers started to score, that's when the audience's attitude

1519
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 1: started to change. Now here's where this is just an

1520
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: unfortunate reality of the world we live in right now.

1521
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: Once the video, first of all, Fossato did talk to

1522
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Fox eleven. He said, I think she just let out

1523
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: her true colors, you know, let herself let it out

1524
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: of baseball and took it out of the cheering into

1525
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: something some more personal level. And that's that's undoubtedly true. Okay,

1526
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: it is. It is one hundred percent true, And that's

1527
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: incredibly wrong. The only thing I can agree with the

1528
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: woman whose name is now forever Brewers fan Karen or

1529
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Brewers Karen, sort of like that Phillies Karen who berated

1530
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: the dad a month or so ago into giving up

1531
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: the baseball for his kids. She is just never going

1532
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: to let that down. I don't believe she was ever

1533
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: actually identified. This poor woman was within a matter of

1534
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe hours of of this tape just going viral. And

1535
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: we'll get to that part in just a second. The

1536
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: one thing I do agree with her is the guy

1537
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: was drinking some sort of fruity fizzy drink, you know,

1538
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: like a Mike's Hard Lemonade or something like that. And look,

1539
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I am one who enjoys those. But she said, drink

1540
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: a beer like a man, you bleep. I kind of

1541
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: agree with that. I say that as somebody who does

1542
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: like Mike's Hard Lemonade. In fact, for my money, the

1543
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: very best one is from Eagle Park Brewery, great local brewer.

1544
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm dear family friends with the brothers who are behind

1545
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Eagle Park Brewery. They have do you remember as kids

1546
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: producer Eric drinking Ecdo Cooler. Yeah, yeah, Well they actually

1547
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: have a seltzer called well, it's called Specto Cooler. It

1548
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: used to be called Ecto Cooler. But I think I

1549
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: think the folks at high Sea or the people who

1550
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: own the ghost Busters. I don't even know what movie

1551
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: studio owns the intellectual property Ghostbusters. They I think they

1552
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: threatened a lawsuit so they changed the name to Specto Cooler.

1553
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: It tastes exactly like the Ecdo cooler drink boxes that

1554
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: all of us Generation xers and older millennials grew up

1555
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: drinking in the nineteen eighties. Absolutely fantastic. So look, I

1556
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: love me a fizzy fruity drink, but you're at a ballgame,

1557
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: drink a miller of white like a man. Then again,

1558
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: he's a Dodgers fan, so you know we're just like

1559
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: we're lucky as a Dodger fan. He wasn't just sipping

1560
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: a shard in a while. He was talking to this woman.

1561
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: Her employer, Manpower Group, posted a comment saying as soon

1562
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: as we became aware of this video, the individual was

1563
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: placed on immediately and we began an investigation. As a

1564
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: result of this process, the employee is no longer with

1565
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: the organization. We remain committed to maintaining a culture grounded

1566
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: in respect integrity and accountability. Fox eleven also learned that

1567
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 1: she resigned as a board member of the Wisconsin branch

1568
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 1: of the Make a Wish Foundation. The Dodgers may have won,

1569
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: but Fosado missed the last three innings. This from Fox eleven.

1570
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: The woman complained when Fosado said call Ice and then

1571
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: apparently took a swipe at him. Okay, this is just

1572
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: poor reporting. The woman complained when Fosado said call Ice.

1573
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: Oh oh, okay, I see what he say. I say, yes,

1574
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: never mind, I take that back. I take that back.

1575
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Fox eleven, Please don't get me fired. Yeah. When he

1576
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 1: said call Ice was he was taunting in that sale

1577
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: whols Coley is what are you gonna do? And then

1578
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: apparently took a swipe at him. Fosado and his friend

1579
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: were then ejected from the stadium. He asked, why am

1580
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: I getting kicked out? What did my friend do? Why

1581
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: are we getting escorted out? And the only reason they

1582
01:47:53,680 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: gave us is because we're Dodger fans. Fosado said, uh yeah,

1583
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 1: but he was clearly getting up videotaping the woman, attempting

1584
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: to get some sort of reaction from somebody, anybody in

1585
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,799
Speaker 1: the stance, and frankly, I absolutely hate it when people

1586
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: do this. It's when you take the good natured out

1587
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: of good natured trash talk and you just start intentionally

1588
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: provoking people. That's clearly what this guy Fosado was doing.

1589
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's not kid ourselves. He's a veteran, and

1590
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: obviously I respect that. I respect the heck out of that.

1591
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: But come on, nor am I going to defend the

1592
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: woman saying qual you know who she could get. She

1593
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: should get together with that alderman from Waukeshaw, not so

1594
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 1: Macho Camacho, and they can all look for ice agents together. Yeah,

1595
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,919
Speaker 1: the one story is going megaviral. One story will clearly

1596
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: end with me. Guess which one is actually the bigger deal?

1597
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: I would say it is somebody with a position of

1598
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: power and authority in government attempting to dos innocent people.

1599
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: But then again, what do I know. It has the

1600
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: veneer of racism and anti Latino sentiment, and it gets

1601
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: to portray a city like Milwaukee and a state like

1602
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is full of a bunch of backwoods racist hicks.

1603
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: So of course the media is going to run with it.

1604
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Of course they are going to use this to Portray,

1605
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Milwaukee and all white people basically as just

1606
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: wanting to call Ice on every Latino that they come

1607
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: into contact with. But there are always two sides to

1608
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 1: an argument, any dispute. You know, Fasado did he deserve

1609
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: to be you know, has say call Ice? Ultimately, Okay,

1610
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Is that the biggest thing in the world.

1611
01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm half Sicilian. If somebody comes up to me and says, hey,

1612
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: I hope somebody goes and makes you an offer you

1613
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: can't refuse, like some reference to the godfather of the

1614
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 1: mafia or something like, I'm going to be really that offended? No,

1615
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: of course not. But of course this is twenty twenty

1616
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: five liberalism. And if you are in a protected, exalted

1617
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 1: class like a Hispanic American, then of course you are

1618
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 1: going to be offended. In fact, you are legally required

1619
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: to be offended anytime someone brings up the three Forbidden letters.

1620
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 1: I see E. But Fosado was intentionally getting in this

1621
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: woman's face. He was intentionally and you can see on

1622
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: his video. Obviously you can't because it's radio right now,

1623
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 1: but I'm sure to look google Brewer's Karen, you'll find

1624
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: the video in three seconds, everybody is sitting kind of

1625
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: stone faced because it's rather obvious this guy and his

1626
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: friend have been going at it for quite some time,

1627
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,719
Speaker 1: trying to provoke some sort of reaction. I'm not saying

1628
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: that the entire section full of Brewers fans was perfectly behaving.

1629
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: They were probably giving it to those guys were in

1630
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: the Dodgers jerseys just as bad. But it's like it

1631
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: just it never ceases to amaze me how people, and

1632
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: I guess the same is true in politics, is well,

1633
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: how people let just blind allegiance to something as silly

1634
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 1: as a sports team, Like how about you buy the

1635
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: guy a beer in the first inning and you start

1636
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: talking like, hey, where are you from? How'd you become

1637
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: a Dodgers fan? And you're good naturedly teasing each other

1638
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: throughout the game. Every single time, I swear, every single

1639
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 1: time I have seen somebody in a post WI, I'll

1640
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: give you know what this just popped into my own

1641
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: and give you the classic example. Classic ex happened years ago,

1642
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: probably twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, somewhere in there. The kids

1643
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 1: were younger, and I was talking to a friend and

1644
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: he said, oh, you know, I was thinking about going

1645
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: to the conc calf Gold Cup Final. It's a continental

1646
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: soccer championship. And I said, oh, that's awesome. Where and

1647
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: when is it? He goes, well, it's tomorrow at Soldier Field.

1648
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: US is playing Mexico. I said, oh, man, that's gonna

1649
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: be a great match. So I went online. I had

1650
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: to get tickets from like a stub Hub or something

1651
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: like that. I surprised the kids, the boys. Gracie I

1652
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: think was way too young to go. And my wife

1653
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: and I and the boys went down to Soldier Field

1654
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 1: and we got ourselves decked out in Team USA gear.

1655
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: It was a whole lot of fun. And the entire

1656
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, folks, the entire stadium, it had to

1657
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: be seventy percent thirty percent Team Mexico fans, okay, and

1658
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 1: they're yelling. And in the intervening years it has really

1659
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 1: gotten the fan behavior has gotten awful between USA and Mexico.

1660
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 1: But back then it was I was in a whole

1661
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: section and were geared up in our Team USA stuff,

1662
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 1: and the boys were little and we're sitting with a

1663
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: whole bunch of Tea Mexico fans and we were, you know,

1664
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: obvious Hispanic dudes and actually another family, and we're just talking,

1665
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 1: we're chatting where we're we're you know, just laughing. They're

1666
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: giving the kids high fives, and you know, the guy

1667
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to actually ended up taking a

1668
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: bunch of family photos. I did the same for him

1669
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: and his family, and it was wonderful. And as we're

1670
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: walking out, no taunting whatsoever. We're all wearing tvsaity like,

1671
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,560
Speaker 1: h hey, sorry, Team USA. One guy I kind of

1672
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: struck up a conversation with as we were getting souvenirs

1673
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 1: or something I don't I don't really remember outside of

1674
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 1: the stadium and I'm talking to him and he said

1675
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 1: something that will will still stick with me and still

1676
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: sticks with me, like six seven years later. He said, yeah,

1677
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, we may have won the Gold Cup, but

1678
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:51,879
Speaker 1: you know, we're all here in America, so I guess

1679
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: America wins the competition of being the better country. And

1680
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: we both started laughing, and a bunch of other guys

1681
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: around us started laughing as well. That's how you do

1682
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: it with rivalries. It's friendly, it's sports, it's fun, it's

1683
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 1: you know, I know, in the playoffs and emotions run high.

1684
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 1: But man, oh, man oh, man like, let's not take

1685
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: the good natured out of good natured ribbon. You're listening

1686
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: to the Dan o'donald's show. We will be back, Mary Shorty.

1687
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: The Dan o'donald's Show is right back. It really is

1688
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: impossible to stress just how much the media loves stories

1689
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: like the Brewers Karen one from Game two of the

1690
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: National League Championship Series because it allows them to propagate

1691
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: this blatantly false narrative that racism is this massive, out

1692
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 1: of control problem in America. Welcome back to the Dan

1693
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: o'donnald Show. Just a couple of minutes left in today's

1694
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: program before we close up shop. Never mind that there

1695
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 1: was a massive blackout over the story about that poor

1696
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: Ukrainian refugee who was stabbed to death by a black

1697
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: man on a bus or it was in a subway,

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Speaker 1: but whatever public transportation you see, I've already forgotten about

1699
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: this story. It did happen just a couple of days

1700
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: before Charlie Kirk's assassination, and that story just you know,

1701
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: took over everything, at least for a while, until the

1702
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 1: media decided that we're just never ever ever going to

1703
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: talk about Charlie Kirk ever. Again, the suspect could be

1704
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 1: seen saying I got that white girl. I got that

1705
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 1: white girl. After he stabbed her multiple times. In the

1706
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: next she bled out on the train, while a number

1707
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: of other people on that train, who happened to be

1708
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: black in this surveillance video, did nothing. They barely even

1709
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: looked up from their phones when a guy stabbed a

1710
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: girl to death right next to them. Now that's it

1711
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: sure looks like obvious anti white racism. It's just totally ignored.

1712
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 1: A woman says, call ice at a hispanic guy at

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01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: a Brewer game, or I'll call Ice, or let's call Ice,

1714
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell she said, and it, of course

1715
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: is a massive national story. You might remember that the

1716
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: media would not air that story. They would not air

1717
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: the video at least before it got to the graphic part,

1718
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: the part that you actually could air on television because

1719
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: they didn't want that narrative. But you give Democrat controlled

1720
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: media outlets an excuse to run the narrative that all

1721
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 1: white people are racists, especially in flyover country, those red

1722
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 1: states like Wisconsin and man oh Man. Will they salivate

1723
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: over the opportunity every single time we are out of

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Speaker 1: time here on the DAN o'donald show, Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. Talk to you again tomorrow for the Friday

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Speaker 1: edition at three o six pm.