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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW on Monday night, January twelfth, twenty twenty six. How

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Speaker 1: was the weekend?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Gary?

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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker checking in. I think tonight's going to be

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Speaker 1: a very special show because of our first guest coming

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Speaker 1: up in just a few minutes. We'll be talking to

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Speaker 1: a woman named Katie Asher who has written a very compelling,

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Speaker 1: very thought provoking book about the soul, the human soul,

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Speaker 1: and what it means and how it may be different

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Speaker 1: than the brain. You know, neuroscientists have battled over this

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Speaker 1: for years. Katie Asher has a neurologically injured son who

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Speaker 1: couldn't communicate in many of the normal ways. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with Jen Jordan, who locally is

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Speaker 1: but she has a son named Jacob who famously has

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Speaker 1: been just mounting. He's autistic and nonverbal, and she never

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Speaker 1: knew how she was going to break through to her son,

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Speaker 1: whom she loves very much, but somehow found a way

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Speaker 1: for Jacob to speak, and he's one of the most thoughtful,

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Speaker 1: incredible human beings on the planet. You excluded, but no,

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Speaker 1: this is a similar situation, I think, but a discussion

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Speaker 1: of the soul and breakthroughs in neuroscience that we never

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Speaker 1: maybe thought we'd see in our lifetimes. Katie Asher will

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Speaker 1: be up in a moment. The wild Man is here

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Speaker 1: for a little while, my friend J. T. Young, who's

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Speaker 1: an incredible thinker and writer, doctor Kezim Casaronian, and I

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Speaker 1: hope I'm pronouncing the name right. About the future of Iran.

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Speaker 1: You know, you may have seen footage of the protests

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Speaker 1: all over the country of Iran. The Mullas, the Iyatolas,

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Speaker 1: they're being attacked. Who knows, they may not even be

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Speaker 1: in the country. And there are protests in this country

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Speaker 1: people of Iranian descent and people who fled Iran when

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Speaker 1: the theocracy took over. We are you talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Nils Gravillius, who's an incredible detective, owns a detective agency

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles on a number of issues. He's also

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Speaker 1: the author of The Last law Man, Speaking to the

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Speaker 1: Wonderland Murders back in la back in the day. And

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Speaker 1: we'll get him some hot cakes on what's going on

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Speaker 1: around the country now. And we could use a good

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Speaker 1: detective from time to time. Couldn't we And Jeff Career,

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Speaker 1: who I've never talked to you before, but we're going

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Speaker 1: to find out what this Louisiana man has on his mind.

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Speaker 1: It's the Nightcap and it begins again with Katie Asher

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Speaker 1: neuroscience and the human soul and the evidence that is

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Speaker 1: just astounding with what her son has been able to

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Speaker 1: do with a severe neurological injury. Seven utter WLW. I've

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Speaker 1: been so excited about ever since I booked this guest

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Speaker 1: last week because of the subject matter. And you don't

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just because we don't take the opportunity when

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Speaker 1: we have it in front of us. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I did in this case to talk about something that

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Speaker 1: truly matters to every single living soul on the face

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Speaker 1: of the earth. Yes, I said soul because it directly

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Speaker 1: relates to what we're going to be talking about with

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Speaker 1: Katie Asher, who is well, she's a mother first and

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Speaker 1: foremost of a son named Houston, neurologically injured autistic son

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Speaker 1: who was nonverbal and trapped basically inside his body. But

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Speaker 1: what happened was and I'll let Katie obviously embellish and

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Speaker 1: explain this. What happened was Houston started knowing things that

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Speaker 1: he'd never been exposed to, spiritual truths, if you will,

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Speaker 1: The question is is the soul more than just biology?

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Speaker 1: Katie Asher and Houston are challenging modern science, and modern

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Speaker 1: science is starting to pay attention and you should too.

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Speaker 1: Katie Asher, Welcome to the Nightcap. How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm great? Thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Did I misstate anything in the introduction?

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Speaker 4: No, you didn't.

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Speaker 5: It's completely miraculous and it brings all of us to

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Speaker 5: the place of recognizing that we are more than our bodies,

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Speaker 5: that we are a spirit before we are physical bodies.

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Speaker 1: We're not just a collection of cells. It's not just

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Speaker 1: biological science, physiology, but there is much more to this.

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Speaker 1: The book that you've written with Houston your son is

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Speaker 1: called the Book of Heaven, a story of hope for

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Speaker 1: the outcasts, the broken, and those who lost faith. So

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Speaker 1: let's start for people who are not familiar with your

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Speaker 1: So that's saying something right there. But so let's let's

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Speaker 5: So Houston is my second child out of five, and

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Speaker 5: he was developing normally. And you know, if I look back,

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Speaker 5: These aren't things that manifest as any type of intellectual disability.

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Speaker 5: These are just basically functions of the cell, the human cell,

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Speaker 5: those types of things we aren't sure. But what happened

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Speaker 5: And he regressed severely, losing all the skills he once

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it was just two decades of torture for everyone.

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Speaker 1: And he was unable to speak or control his body. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then what happened Katie.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, like anyone else who was dealing with something so traumatic,

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Speaker 5: I lost hope. And I think that's understandable if you

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Speaker 5: And the verse growing up that I had always clung

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Speaker 5: those who love God, who are called according to his purpose, which.

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Speaker 5: But it got to the point I remember, I was

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Speaker 5: and that's not an exaggeration, that's actually the number. And

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Speaker 5: I was in despair, and I just got to the

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Speaker 5: for God to bring good out.

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Speaker 4: Of all of this disaster around me, and.

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Speaker 5: I was this had happened, This particular event happened when

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Speaker 5: day completely exhausted and had experienced a miracle. Now, what

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Speaker 5: have to believe it, you have to And this was

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Speaker 5: our faith, our belief, has extraordinary power to bring about

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Speaker 5: that which we want to believe. And so for five

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Speaker 5: And that was the beginning of hope, real tangible hope.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I'm sorry, Ark, I know our time is

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Speaker 7: Well, I put down, Yeah, I put down a nice

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Speaker 7: it off, and then of course he throws those touchdown passes.

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00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: I mean, Matthew Stafford and.

441
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 7: Drake Kid, Yeah, Drake May those are the two guys

442
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 7: right now. It's hard to pick who's the m VP.

443
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 7: It's going to be one of them. It's going to

444
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 7: be one of them. Yeah, I don't know who's gonna gonna,

445
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 7: you know, eventually get the NOD, but that's your two

446
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 7: MVP choices.

447
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams game was interested.

448
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 7: I don't got to see the first half because I

449
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 7: was working in the Hill basket ball game, but you know,

450
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 7: I got to see the some of the other games,

451
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 7: and you know, I'll go back like I said, they

452
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 7: were all entertaining everyone. You can't complain about. You cannot

453
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 7: complain about any of the games if you're a football fan.

454
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 7: The most entertaining to me, I'll stay with was the

455
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 7: Bears coming from behind and beating the Packers because I

456
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 7: think the Packers thought they had the game of the

457
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 7: bag and they went to sleep, especially on defense.

458
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the quarterbacks who have shined have shined in lieu

459
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: of you know, are Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and

460
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks and Patrick Mahomes that we have become

461
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: accustomed to in the playoffs. And you know, as as

462
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: a result of we we did have some fantastic wild

463
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: card games over the weekend. Looking ahead, I don't I

464
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: don't know how the forty nine ers are going to

465
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: do in Seattle.

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00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 7: Good luck there, Good Sewks. Yeah, I can't have a

467
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 7: root for the forty nine ers. I didn't like them

468
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 7: winning that this the game last night, But that's where

469
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 7: the that's where their season ends in Seattle. They're not

470
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 7: They're not.

471
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: They're not beat the Seahawks, no.

472
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Way out well anyway. I mean their benches, their locker

473
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: rooms like a triage unit. It's like a mass shard.

474
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: For God's sake. When I saw a kittle go down

475
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: with the Achilles, I go, oh, there's no way they're

476
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: winning this game. But they pulled another rabbit out of

477
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Speaker 1: their hat. Wild man. You got to give them that.

478
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Whether you like them or not.

479
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: I'll give it to them. But they're not beating Seattle.

480
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 7: So Sam Darnold has, you know, got new life going

481
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 7: going to the Northwest, and he's had a fantastic season two.

482
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what about Duke Tobin saying that we're fine,

483
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: We're fine after a six and eleven missing the playoff

484
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: season for.

485
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Speaker 7: The waiting for you, I was waiting for you to

486
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 7: get to that. That press conference is an hour and

487
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 7: twenty minutes. I'll never get back the rest of my life.

488
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 7: That was all much ado about nothing, nothing but nonsense.

489
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 7: In fact, I was listening to it on the radio

490
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: and it sounded to me if I closed my eyes,

491
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 7: that was Mike Brown speaking, not Duke Tobin. I mean,

492
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 7: the guy is a loan of Mike Brown, and I

493
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 7: understand it. You know, they want to win, blah blah blah.

494
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 7: But you know what, the fans have heard this for

495
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 7: the last twenty years, that they want to win, that

496
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 7: we want to do this, that we're disappointed.

497
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: Well, you don't want to step up and prove it

498
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: to us?

499
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 8: Do something?

500
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, the team is worth Mike Brown is worth three

501
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 7: point one billion dollars. I looked it up last night.

502
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 7: Mike Brown is worth three point one billion dollars. And

503
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 7: the thing the Beggers have got to do here, Gary,

504
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 7: Jeff must say this slowly for you.

505
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: When free agency starts the very first.

506
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 7: Day, the Begers have got to jump in there and

507
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 7: sign two guys right out of the gate.

508
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: They can't be pussy.

509
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 7: Footing around waiting for three or four or five days.

510
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 7: They've got to jump in there. They should have their

511
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: list of who they want and get two guys on

512
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 7: the defensive side of the ball.

513
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 8: Now.

514
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: DJ Reader is a free agent and he had another

515
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 7: great season in Detroit, so possibly they could bring him

516
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 7: back as a nose tackle. But they've got to jump

517
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 7: in there and get two free agents the defensive side

518
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 7: that can help this team. They've also got to sign

519
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 7: Dalton Reisner, the guard that's to mems and Men's has

520
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 7: already come out and said, I've got to have Dalton

521
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 7: Reisner back here with me this past season.

522
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're gonna sign him. If not, they are

523
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: out of their freaking mind. And then when you go

524
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: into the draft, and we've.

525
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 7: Talked about this, whatever the pick is at number ten,

526
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 7: you take the best athlete available.

527
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Really, you really do. You just have to.

528
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 7: You don't know what's gonna be there and who if

529
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 7: they're gonna turn out any good. But I would like

530
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 7: to see them if it comes down in the draft,

531
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 7: if there's a defensive player that can help immediately, not

532
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 7: know we're gonna, you know, bring him along. They've got

533
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 7: to be able to step in there immediately. But again,

534
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 7: that free agency, Gary Jeff, when it starts, the Benkers

535
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: are got to jump in there and sign two guys right.

536
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: Out of the way. And what I hear out of

537
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: what did I hear to do Tobin. Well, you know,

538
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: free agency, you never know what you're.

539
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 7: Gonna get, depend on where you're at, you know, if

540
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 7: somebody else to do.

541
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Speaker 3: It, I don't want to hear that.

542
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Well hear that. What did you do with your phone?

543
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: You sounded like you were underwater doing your impression of

544
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: Duke Tobin there, But I heard basically what you said,

545
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: and you're right, But Duke Tobin will sound like a

546
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: clone of Mike Brown because guess who signs the paychecks

547
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: unless he's using an auto pen like Joe Biden. I

548
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: don't know what Mike Brown's check signing status is these days,

549
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: but he is the owner and you've got to do

550
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: what the boss says to do. So, I mean, did

551
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: you expect Duke Tobin to be any more than just

552
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: a mouthpiece for Mike Brown kind of his job.

553
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

554
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 7: Well, well, the way it was played up, Duke Tobin's

555
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 7: going to meet the press, and everybody was thinking and

556
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 7: of course he got softball questions from the media, which

557
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 7: you know, that's not surprising because every media member is

558
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 7: scared to death that they'll lose their lunch at their

559
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 7: their free lunch everyff Angles home game.

560
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: But that's the truth. It really is.

561
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 7: They're afraid they'll lose their free lunch and their media

562
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 7: credentials that ask any tough questions. And again the fans,

563
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 7: the fans I think expected more out of Duke Tobin,

564
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 7: but when he when he may address free agency, he.

565
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Danced around that, well, he danced around that.

566
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: There's no question that there is immense pettiness in our

567
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: major sports organizations towards the media here. And if you

568
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: aren't just being a homer all the time, or not

569
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: asking tough questions or asking tough questions, then they can

570
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: just turn it off their hospitality and they're welcome that

571
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: for you. And I just wish that they weren't so

572
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: thin skinned, because it seemed like the Reds are that

573
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: way too well.

574
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 7: And this act would not play well in New York

575
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 7: or Chicago or Detroit, but you know it plays here.

576
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 7: And then do you think with one radio station or

577
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 7: you think one TV station, but have the kahonas one

578
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 7: time just go in and say, you know what, we're going.

579
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: To ask the tough questions.

580
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 7: Instead, they asked questions like well, what did you have

581
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 7: for dinner? Or you know, just stupid stuff. Asking Joe

582
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 7: Burrow what did he get for Christmas? And what's your

583
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 7: best Christmas gift?

584
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: I mean, what is that? What's got to do with football?

585
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: Now?

586
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 7: Before I let you go, I got to talk about Redsfest.

587
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 7: Fred's best is Friday and Saturday. Okay, I'm going to Friday,

588
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 7: But here's what baffles meet. The Red's Hall of Fame

589
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: inductees for twenty twenty six are Aaron Harang, Brandon Phillips,

590
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 7: Lou Panela, Reggie Sanders. None of those guys are gonna

591
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 7: be at Redsfest. What in the hell are they thinking

592
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 7: that they don't bring these guys in now? Lou Panela, Okay,

593
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 7: I'll give him a pass. The guy's almost eighty years old.

594
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 7: Stuff for him to travel. But Reggie Sanders, what could

595
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 7: he be doing? Aaron Harang and Brandon Phillips, they can't

596
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 7: be at Redsfest to meet the fans.

597
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: And if you looked at the.

598
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: Alumni list of the red who are going to be

599
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 7: at Redsfest, Skeeter Barnes who? How many Reds fans remember

600
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 7: Skeeter Bond Who Skeeter Barnes?

601
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. I mean there's just some of

602
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: those names on there.

603
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 7: I mean, Barry Larkin's there one day, Sean Casey is

604
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 7: there one day, Bronson a royal at least, but ron

605
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 7: Oaster's not there. Ron Oaster lives in town. Todd Benzinger,

606
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 7: he lives in town. He was on the ninety team

607
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 7: sit with the Rondeo and they're not there. Come on, man,

608
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 7: I mean, how good you drop the ball of something

609
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 7: like this?

610
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, it's kind of like the Bengals

611
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: having a Ring of honor and then they're not. They're

612
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: not footing the bill for tickets and for you know,

613
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: transportation and accommodations for those people. The Reds are kind

614
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: of similarly the same way. I don't know all the

615
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: ins and outs and the buying, the scenes workings. Maybe

616
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: they asked Phillips, Sir Sanders or Harangue, but they just

617
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't agree to come. Maybe the Reds didn't make it

618
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: appealing enough for them to come.

619
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: You don't know that. Well, that could be true. And

620
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what this.

621
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 7: I won't reveal the player's name, but I talked to

622
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 7: him last week and I asked him if he was

623
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 7: coming in.

624
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: He goes, he goes, they want you to do a

625
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: lot for nothing.

626
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So Reds fast is about the fans,

627
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and I would think that if these players are close

628
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: by and they could make it, they would come for

629
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: the fans if they're not going to come for the Reds.

630
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: But the Reds definitely have a history, kind of like

631
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals, of not really fully honoring their former players

632
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: or the players that they consider their greats in the

633
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Reds Hall of Fame, and they on it.

634
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 7: We're gonna start with Wow, We're gonna start with ed Rouse,

635
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 7: who was voted the greatest red I've already told you

636
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 7: that you agree with me.

637
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: They should have a statue.

638
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 7: Of Ed Rouse out there on Crawsley Terrace, and why

639
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 7: they don't It baffles me to this day. Voted the

640
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 7: greatest Reds player in the first one hundred years, and

641
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 7: he doesn't have a statue. But you have one of

642
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 7: Joe Knuxall, and you have one of Ernie Lombardi, and

643
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 7: you have one of Frank Robinson, and you have one.

644
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 3: Of Ted Lezuski. I can't write.

645
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 7: I don't recall Ted Klezuski won in any major award

646
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 7: ever in his career.

647
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: He had a lot of rons.

648
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 7: He loved the fans loved them, but Ed Browse's a

649
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer and he's not being honored by the Reds.

650
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh say, Reds Fest this weekend. Make sure you get

651
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: your tickets so you can see Skeeter Barnes National champions Wait.

652
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 7: In fact, in fact, I'm going down early when the

653
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 7: door's open, and I'm camping out at that table for

654
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 7: Steter Barnes.

655
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Okay wild Man National Title College Football next Monday night.

656
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: Indiana Miami. I mean, I think Miami's got a puncher's chance,

657
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: but that's all. That Indiana team looks so solid from

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Speaker 1: from the offense to the defense, to the special teams,

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Speaker 1: and especially that coach Kurt Signetty.

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Speaker 7: What do you think They're on a mission from God

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Speaker 7: to win this title? And it will be almost like

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Speaker 7: fifty years to the fifty years since another Indiana team

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Speaker 7: went undefeated. That was the basketball Hoosiers Yunner Bob Knight.

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Speaker 7: And I was in Bloomington that night that they beat Michigan.

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Speaker 7: And you talk about a party, I mean I felt like

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Speaker 7: it was that I was at the Reds World Series celebration.

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Speaker 7: Indiana all has everything going for him right now.

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Speaker 6: I mean that.

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Speaker 7: Quarterback he's he's unstoppable and they're not getting cocky. And

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Speaker 7: the coaches in Kacky, they know what they want to

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Speaker 7: accomplish here and they got a chance to make history

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Speaker 7: Gary Jeff becoming the first team in the playoff era

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Speaker 7: to go sixteen and oh and I really think they'll

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I feel pretty confident about Fernando

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Speaker 1: Mendoza and Kurt Signetti and the rest of that Indiana

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Speaker 1: team taking it all. A week from tonight. I also

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Speaker 1: saw that you were mentioning a youth hockey game in Hershey,

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that got a little out of hand, wild Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you saw the video.

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Speaker 7: You can YouTube, but there was a youth hockey game

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Speaker 7: in Pennsylvania and Hershey, Pennsylvania, Hershey, Pennsylvania. I've always wanted

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Speaker 7: to go there and go to the factory. I've always

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Speaker 7: wanted to go there. But yeah, a youth hockey game,

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Speaker 7: A big, a big brawl between the teams broke out

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Speaker 7: and it just went on and on. Were good for

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Speaker 7: what I was watching a good three minutes. The parents

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Speaker 7: didn't intervene, the officials didn't intervene, and I heard it

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Speaker 7: like a week before they had another brawl like that.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 1: They're just they're just didn't They're just they're just in

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Speaker 1: training to be a future Cincinnati Cyclone. Wild Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yess.

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Speaker 3: Hey, there was a goal There was the goalie.

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Speaker 7: There was a goalie from one of the teams that

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00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 7: came in like the not that breaking up, but just

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Speaker 7: to crush these guys. This goalie looked like he was

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Speaker 7: thirty years old. They come in and just knocked like

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Speaker 7: six kids down like they were bullet pins.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's not a good sign. That's not a good

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Speaker 3: sign of the sports.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, hockey is no uh no stranger to fighting.

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Speaker 1: You know what they called wild man.

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Speaker 3: You can't have the youth kids doing that wild man.

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Speaker 1: You know what they called youth hockey and hershey the

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Speaker 1: team what the hershey squirts?

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Speaker 3: Get out of it, wild man.

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Speaker 1: See you later.

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Speaker 3: I get those every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Right, we're here to go to White Cat's.

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Speaker 3: You'll get them all the time.

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Speaker 1: Bye, See you later, The wild Man. On the Nightcap,

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Speaker 1: we continue. Nils Grivillius is coming up just after the

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Speaker 1: news at ten into our number two of his nightcap

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, one of my new favorite guests

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Speaker 1: is rejoining us. He is the author of The Last

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Speaker 1: law Man, The Stories of a Private Detective. He's based

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Speaker 1: out in LA private investigator with more than thirty years

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Speaker 1: of experience conducting cases across all fifty states and around

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Speaker 1: the world, and he joins us now. His trench coach

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Speaker 1: is ready, and so are his skills, his incredible abilities

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Speaker 1: to discern and to detect. Nils Gravillius, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 8: How are you well? I'm fantastic. I want to say

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Speaker 8: hello to all your listeners, even the ones and see

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Speaker 8: call me counterband. You know I'm an illegal alien in

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Speaker 8: Covington and Cincinnati when I join your people on the

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Speaker 8: radio here.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you. I'll smuggle you in

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Speaker 1: once again tonight. Nils, there are a couple of things

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, with all your detective experience,

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Speaker 1: do you think that young Nick Shirley is a great

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Speaker 1: detective for finding all this fraud that was happening in

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Speaker 1: plain Sight and Minnesota.

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Speaker 8: Well, Nick Shirley, this deserves the praise that he is getting.

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Speaker 8: How about this? How great were those news organizations like

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Speaker 8: Fox and CNN and whatever who could never follow up

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Speaker 8: on this if it was so obvious that a twenty

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Speaker 8: six year old kid with an iPhone could blow the

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Speaker 8: whole thing apart in mere days and for years they

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Speaker 8: completely ignored it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Fox was the first to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and pick up on it after it had gotten

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Speaker 1: so many views on on X or whatever that they

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Speaker 1: couldn't ignore it anymore. But you're right, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: mainstream media was either asleep at the wheel, or maybe

747
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Speaker 1: they were getting some of them were getting a little

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Speaker 1: cut of all that cash that was flowing out of

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Speaker 1: the federal coffers into Minnesota and then into that mainly

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Speaker 1: Somali community there. It's just amazing that the leaders in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota may not be held accountable ultimately for this, and

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Speaker 1: the blame obviously should go at least partially to them,

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Speaker 1: especially especially gone By.

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Speaker 8: I would agree with you if we were in the

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Speaker 8: Cheney administration still, But this is this is what I'll say.

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Speaker 8: The whole thing was obvious. The traditional media is driving

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Speaker 8: their getaway car, and they do this over and over again.

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Speaker 8: They will amplify stories harmful to one side and bury

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Speaker 8: stories harmful to the other side. And we know which

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Speaker 8: side is whitch.

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Speaker 1: Don't we Yeah, primarily. Yeah, the mainstream media has been

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Speaker 1: basically an arm of the Democrat Party in this country

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years, I mean ever since

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Speaker 1: the days of Cronkite.

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Speaker 8: Almost Okay, so hasn't it inverted now? Isn't the Democrat

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Speaker 8: Party part of the media?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean it's the same thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media seems to be a fundraising arm for

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party with most of their reporting and stories.

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Speaker 8: But the Democrats don't need Don Draper at Stirling Cooper

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Speaker 8: to advertise for them as long as they have CNN, CBS, well,

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Speaker 8: CBS less so now, but CNN, ABC, MSNBC, you know what,

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Speaker 8: or they're calling themselves ease stage. You're correct. I think

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Speaker 8: you're ownto something here. Man. You might be a detective yourself.

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Speaker 1: ABC is one of the worst offenders. And you know,

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Speaker 1: ms now is what they're calling themselves now because NBC

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Speaker 1: kind of said, you know what, we really don't need

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Speaker 1: that kind of bad press from your press, but abide awful,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, ABC's awful. Ms now was the boil that NBC

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Speaker 8: finally lanced. Okay, so they've been doing this for years.

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Speaker 8: My belief is that that Pam Bondy, despite whatever criticisms

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Speaker 8: people have of ours, is going to go great guns

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Speaker 8: against this thing. In Minnesota. We're going to see the

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Speaker 8: Republican Party, the traditional GOP, move at the speed of

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Speaker 8: Dutch Elm disease and drag their feet, okay, and it

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Speaker 8: will be up to voters to make the max. And

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Speaker 8: you know that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: I love the reference to Dutch Elm disease with the

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Speaker 1: movement of the Republican Party doing anything positive, which is

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Speaker 1: why they could very well again lose in the midterms

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Speaker 1: and lose control of Congress, which you know, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are a record low in approval, lower than the presidents certainly,

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Speaker 1: and lower than the Republicans in Congress, but Congress overall,

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Speaker 1: the approval rating is exactly what they deserve. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think I think it's higher than what they deserve.

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Speaker 8: Probably well, okay, I think Horsemanure has a higher polling number,

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Speaker 8: but what do I know?

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Speaker 1: Who am I gallop right exactly? I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you too about these protests against federal law enforcement that

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Speaker 1: have now taken the headlines away from the fraud. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that that is any coincidence at all that

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden these ice protests have risen up,

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Speaker 1: and you have the woman who was you know, any

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Speaker 1: loss of life is tragic. Let's start there. But secondarily,

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Speaker 1: you have these ice protests now all around the country,

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Speaker 1: anti ice protest with people are just These law enforcement

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Speaker 1: people are just for the first time ever, been allowed

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Speaker 1: to enforce the actual law that are on the books.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as the author of the last law man,

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Speaker 1: are there any law men left who can withstand the

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Speaker 1: kind of George Sorow sponsored public scrutiny that is being

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Speaker 1: brought to bear.

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Speaker 8: Well, okay, sure, I have a couple of things to say. Gary.

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Speaker 8: First of all, let's stop thinking of these people as civilians.

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Speaker 8: You cannot identify an employer for this woman, Miss Nice

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Speaker 8: or Miss Good or whatever her name was, who just

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Speaker 8: got killed voluntarily in Minnesota. This is what they do,

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Speaker 8: and you and I are paying for it. The money

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Speaker 8: is coming out of our pockets. Partly, some comes from

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Speaker 8: Soros and Reed Hoffman and people like that, but most

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Speaker 8: of it comes through the NGOs that you and I fund.

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Speaker 8: A homeless outreach, a drug addiction services, immigrant resettlement. All

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Speaker 8: of that is cryptocurrency for the hard left. And if

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Speaker 8: we took all that public money away from these people,

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Speaker 8: these NGOs, there would be far less Marxist organization in

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Speaker 8: our streets.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: Notice they never do this where they don't have partners

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Speaker 8: in government. They have to have a performative partnering government

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Speaker 8: that will not prosecute them for the crimes that they commit,

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Speaker 8: the arson, the looting, the vandalism, the obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 8: What is tim Palm, Timmy going to do with all this, Gary,

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Speaker 8: He's going to do nothing. He's going to make a

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Speaker 8: lot of noise about prosecuting this ICE agent, but he

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Speaker 8: knows he has no cause of action against the man

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Speaker 8: he was defending himself in the line of duty.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned NGOs, and I've always wondered, Nils, how can

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Speaker 1: it be a non governmental organization if it's getting federal

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Speaker 1: tax dollars, if it's getting my money from the government,

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Speaker 1: how can they call themself an NGO. I think if

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Speaker 1: you call yourself an NGO, you how to be totally

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Speaker 1: devoid and unable to get federal funding.

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Speaker 8: Well, or that you should be completely neutral to politics.

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Speaker 8: But that's not what they're doing. These are mercenary organizations.

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Speaker 8: Of left wing politicians think of them as their form

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Speaker 8: of blackwater. Stop looking at Antifa as college kids in

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Speaker 8: Portland tuxedos and N ninety five masks. This is the

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Speaker 8: Blue Klux Klan.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love the Blue Klux Klan. Did you coin that?

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Speaker 3: Just now?

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Speaker 8: That's my portmanteau and I haven't copyrighted it, and I'm

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Speaker 8: going to authorize you to distribute that all over the

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Speaker 8: Ohio River Valley.

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Speaker 1: Very very good. I love Blue Klux Klan. So is

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Speaker 1: there a way now they're talking about there are Democrats

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Speaker 1: talking about impeaching Christy Nome, the DHS Secretary, for merely

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Speaker 1: instructing the agents of Ice to enforce the actual law

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Speaker 1: on the books. Are they going to get any traction

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Speaker 1: with this or is this just more noise making on

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Speaker 1: the left.

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Speaker 8: Well, if they retake Congress in twenty twenty six, expect

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Speaker 8: them to to introduce articles of impeachment. And you know

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Speaker 8: that Donald Trump has stones like paving stones, He's not

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Speaker 8: going to allow it to happen. I'm going to point

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Speaker 8: back to Secretary Dorcas Majorcus, who the guy letting all

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Speaker 8: these people in, all these illegal aliens in Can I

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Speaker 8: point something out about the Somali community. They are unlike

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Speaker 8: other African immigrant communities. I've worked a law in Sub

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Speaker 8: Saharan Africa. I know a lot of Africans from Ghana, Uganda, Rwanda, Rhodesia. No,

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Speaker 8: I won't call it Zimbabwe, South Africa, et cetera, Kenya, Eritrea, Ethiopia.

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Speaker 8: They're rugged individuals, they're entrepreneurial. They don't want to hand out,

873
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Speaker 8: they want to hand up. And once they're here, they

874
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 8: take foothold and run with the ball. They're all good men.

875
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 8: But the Somali community seems to be as a warm

876
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 8: eighty two percent on public assistance, almost as if they're

877
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 8: a tapeworm that we've imported to clean ourselves out. While

878
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 8: they virtue signal, the leftist, white, flabby white leftists in

879
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 8: Minnesota virture signal about their immigrant community. Think that we

880
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 8: need to work hard and fast to get rid of

881
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 8: the ones who are a public charge, send them back

882
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 8: to their home country so they can be a public

883
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 8: charge in Somalia or wherever.

884
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Well. A big mistake was when they gave these people

885
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: citizenship through temporary protected status, and that is extended from

886
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: the Obama administration and perhaps before, but you don't get

887
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Somalis in overnight and basically unvetted and

888
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: let them fester and take over a whole community. I mean,

889
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: the whole idea of immigration is supposed to be assimilating

890
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: and becoming part of.

891
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: The dult function. They're functioning as a terrorist state within our.

892
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: Country right exactly.

893
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 8: They arm ISIS and al Shabab and all these other

894
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 8: militant groups. They send truckloads of money home through the

895
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 8: Minneapolis airport every week. We need to pull apart their citizenship,

896
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 8: the citizen is is them and eject them. We can

897
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 8: do it. The provisions are in law. We just have

898
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 8: to have people with stones enough to do it.

899
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: Now.

900
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 8: Christy nom Donald Trump, Pam BONDI. I think they're tough,

901
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 8: Tom Holman, They're all tough enough to do it. When

902
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 8: you look at the Republicans in the Senate and Congress,

903
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 8: we've got some weak sisters there, Gay, we really do.

904
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: Now.

905
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 8: There are some Democrats who'd probably go along with this.

906
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 8: I bet John Fetterman would go along with it.

907
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, it's amazing. Ever since the stroke he

908
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: seemed to have regained some semblance of sense. He's still

909
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: a Democrat, But every time he speaks it is so like, yeah,

910
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: matter of fact, common sense, which is what I think

911
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people are craving in government, and it's

912
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: so so much lacking in so many areas.

913
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 8: What would Jeff do with this, this problem, this illegal

914
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 8: alien problem in our country. I'm not sure what would

915
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 8: what would what would Harry Truman do?

916
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: What would you suggest that I know what?

917
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 8: Hell they do? He would eject them, He would eject them.

918
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 8: He would he would use the military to eject them.

919
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: But because it's the go ahead, go ahead with with

920
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: your your.

921
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 8: Dwight, Dwight, David Eisenhower deployed paratroopers to Arkansas to integrate

922
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 8: the Little Rock public schools in the fifties. Yeah, there's precedent,

923
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 8: and precedent is law, okay, so that this can be done.

924
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 8: It's the willingness the problem we have, as you've said,

925
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 8: we have a willingness problem in Congress well.

926
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: And is most of the resistance you mentioned all these

927
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: other great leaders of the past. Is much of the

928
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: resistance just because it's Donald Trump who sits in the

929
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: White House and everything he does has to be terrible.

930
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 8: You know, I think they'd do the same thing to

931
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan. Uh, but Ronald Reagan was also cut from

932
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 8: the same cloth as Donald Trump. He was just a

933
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 8: little bit more polite. You know. Yeah, we've got a

934
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 8: real problem within the GOP. You know, I can barely

935
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 8: stand the GOP. And if the Democrats can ever summon

936
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 8: the sand and forder to to create leaders like JFK again,

937
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 8: I might be a Democrat again. But I don't see

938
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 8: that on the horizon. I don't think JFK could get

939
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 8: one percent of the Democrat vote today.

940
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: Well, he's certainly not a Democrat. That's that would be

941
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: a part of this party which is basically appealed so

942
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: far to the left of their socialist mob that is uh,

943
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: that is running seemingly uh the entire uh, the entire

944
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: Congress and Senate.

945
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 8: I mean right, the Party of Kennedy is now the

946
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 8: Party of Oswald.

947
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: Maybe go farther than that, the Party of Kennedy is

948
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: now the Party of Khrushev.

949
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 8: Seems like, yeah, exactly, I think I think you're correct, Garrett.

950
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 8: You look at you. You've come up with another one here.

951
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 8: You've outdone me.

952
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: Nothing as good as Blue Klux Klan Nils. I'm sorry.

953
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: Talking to Nils Gravillius from Gravillia's Detective Services, can you

954
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: think of something just right off the top of your

955
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: head that surprised you in one of your cases, something

956
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: that maybe give me one instance of something that really

957
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: stunned you when you looked into the case and it

958
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: was something completely different than you had thought it was

959
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: when you started. I don't know.

960
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 8: Well. I was once looking at an organized crime ring

961
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 8: that was licensing establishments with the laquor license, over ensuring

962
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 8: them and then burning them. Wanted a time to collect

963
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 8: insurance money, and the mayor of the city wanted this

964
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 8: clamp down on And when I learned that the man

965
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 8: behind the arsons, the primary investor in all these liquor licenses,

966
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 8: was an organized crime figure, was represented by a lawyer

967
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 8: who was also on the city fire commission. And I

968
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 8: went back to the mayor and I said, one of

969
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 8: your fire commissioners is the lawyer for the primary suspect.

970
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 8: The mayor ignored me, and the arsons continued.

971
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of organized crime and arson and places burning down.

972
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever looked into the Beverly Hills supper club

973
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: fire that infamously happened.

974
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 6: Down in Kentucky.

975
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

976
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: Actually it's about the site of where the Beverly Hills

977
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: Supper Club was is about a half mile from where

978
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: I live.

979
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 8: That's pretty amazing. I had a friend, or I still

980
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 8: have a friend named Danny Sexton, it's from that part

981
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 8: of Kentucky, who was a cavalry scout and first of

982
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 8: the fifty eighth Infantry with me at Fort Benning forty

983
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 8: odd years ago, and Danny narrowly escaped that fire. Danny

984
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 8: Sexton is a fantastic man. He's her grandfather. Now, that

985
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 8: sort of thing. I've never looked into the Beverly Hills

986
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 8: Supper Club fire. I've read every Wikipedia entry on it.

987
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 8: It's a pretty fascinating thing. And it compares sort of

988
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 8: to the Dorothy May Hotel fire in Los Angeles in

989
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty three.

990
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: Well, there was a place in Fort Mitchell right down

991
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: the road that also was initially mob controlled that burned down,

992
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: called the Lookout House, and that happened before the Beverly

993
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: Hills Supper Club fire. But apparently the man who was

994
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: running the business, the owner, was approached by the Cleveland

995
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: mob which had originally established this place, and then sold

996
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: it to him and he was making money hand over

997
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: fist legally, legitimately, and they came to him and they

998
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: insisted that he turned the business over to them, and

999
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: when he refused, all these people are dead and the

1000
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: places burned to the ground. And then it was you

1001
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about being looked over by governmental officials

1002
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: and just ignored in the state of Kentucky. It went

1003
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: all the way to Frankfurt and they said, oh, it

1004
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: was just an electrical fire. It was clearly our arson

1005
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: and everything that I've read, and it was all done

1006
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: by the mob and then covered up by the government officials.

1007
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 8: Well, the mob buys shares in whatever the power structure

1008
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 8: is to the greatest extent that they can. When you

1009
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 8: stay the Cleveland Mob, you're probably meaning Shang Draper and

1010
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 8: Danny Green, perhaps maybe Reuben Sterman, rubinstem you know who

1011
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 8: Ruben was.

1012
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: No, tell me about Ruben Steerman.

1013
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 8: He was probably the most prolific pornographer in the pre

1014
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 8: vhas area in terms of era, in terms of distribution.

1015
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 8: He owned a comic book warehouse in Cleveland, and with

1016
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 8: comic books he distributed smut, you know, the little three

1017
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 8: minute reels that you play in a coin operated machine.

1018
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 8: In a dirty booth in the back of a bookstore,

1019
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 8: that sort of thing, and felthy magazines and whatever, and

1020
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 8: his comic book enterprise was covered for the pornography. He

1021
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 8: made ten times money from the pornographers as he did

1022
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 8: the comic books, and it was the irs. It finally

1023
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 8: took him down. Richard Rossfelder brought I r S an

1024
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 8: FBI agency and I think in seventy six or seventy

1025
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 8: seven kicked the doors in and took the man into custody.

1026
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 8: He was protected by the de Cavo Kante found out

1027
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 8: of Rhode Island, which was a subset of the Patriarchus.

1028
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: Wow. I love being educated on this show. And you

1029
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: never you never failed to help me with that. Nils Gravillius.

1030
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 8: Thirteen. I went to Terre Hate and I interviewed a

1031
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 8: man who was probably involved in the assassination of Danny

1032
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 8: Green in Cleveland with a dynamite balm in nineteen seventy seven.

1033
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 8: He was involved, I believe in the assassination of a

1034
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 8: guy named Jack Molinas, who was a bookie and a

1035
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 8: former pro basketball player in Los Angeles.

1036
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: Amazing Nils Gravillius. The last lawman is the book out.

1037
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 8: Now, Nils. It's available for pre order. It's called The

1038
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 8: Last Lawman. It's my professional memoir. You can order it

1039
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 8: on Amazon. It'll be delivered in June, just in time

1040
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 8: direct Father's Day. It's four years in the Pinkerton Service,

1041
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 8: US Army counter Intelligence and of course our glorious infantry

1042
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 8: and Cavalry. I had a fantastic tom. I'm still running

1043
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 8: and gunning on the streets of Los Angeles here in

1044
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 8: my sixties, and I'm standing by for more action. Gary.

1045
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 8: I'm always standing by when next time you call me,

1046
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 8: let's talk a bit about the Pinkerton Service, because they

1047
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 8: operate in secrecy and a lot of people are completely unaware.

1048
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: Ah. That's a continuing education for me. Nils, thank you

1049
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: so much, and God bless.

1050
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 8: Stay safe and sency and say hello to all your

1051
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 8: listeners on both sides of the river.

1052
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: Young man, you got it doing it right now. Nils

1053
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: Gravilius joining us again. The Nightcap continues after News, which

1054
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: is next on seven hundred WLW. As we continue on

1055
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: this Monday evening, the Nightcap rolls on with Jeff Crueer

1056
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: from New Orleans, a man who is into ringside politics

1057
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: in big ways, and we'll get into that in just

1058
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: a moment. But Jeff, it's a pleasure to talk to you.

1059
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: How are you, and happy New Year, Happy new Year.

1060
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 6: Great to be with you.

1061
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 9: Yes, it's going to be a better twenty twenty six,

1062
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 9: I'm predicting.

1063
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: I have felt that way ever since before the stroke

1064
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,959
Speaker 1: of midnight on January thirty first, yeah, or December thirty first.

1065
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: I just had this incredible feeling that it's not just

1066
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: the political wishes of the Trump administration and his economic advisors,

1067
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: but I just feel like in every way, twenty six

1068
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: is going to be good, and I think part of

1069
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: that is going to be that the Democrats do not

1070
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: win back control of the House of Representatives. What do

1071
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: you think of the odds are that the Republicans can

1072
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: hang on?

1073
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 9: Boy, I'm praying because it would be just a disaster.

1074
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 9: If the Democrats take control, they'll do what they always

1075
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 9: do and impeach the president. In fact, he said it

1076
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 9: the other day, it's a meeting with House Republicans that

1077
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 9: he believes that's going to happen, that they're going to

1078
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 9: be teaching him again. So I'm just worried about the midterms. Obviously,

1079
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 9: the party out of power historically wins right, and the

1080
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 9: Reblicans have such a slim majority. I mean, man just

1081
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 9: died the other day, and you know, Marty Taylor Green resigns,

1082
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 9: so I mean it's just very, very slim majority. But

1083
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 9: here's what I'm predicting. I think they'll they'll be a

1084
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 9: better economy by the election. I think you'll see interest

1085
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 9: rates come down more. I think you'll have inflation under control,

1086
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 9: gas prices will be down. So I think we'll have

1087
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Speaker 9: that affordability factor which Americans have been looking for, and

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Speaker 9: you know, I think which the Trump.

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Speaker 8: Administration is delivering.

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Speaker 9: Remember that unaffordability was due to Joe Biden and the Democrats,

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Speaker 9: not President Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all in the messaging thing and how well

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Speaker 1: they can market that message and get people to believe it.

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Speaker 1: People just believe what they see. This instant gratification society

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Speaker 1: we live in. They believe what they see right now,

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Speaker 1: and if they don't see it getting any better within

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: a week, well then it must suck and and we've

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Speaker 1: got to change horses in the middle of the stream.

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Speaker 1: But I believe that Bassent and Hasset are right when

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Speaker 1: they say that twenty six by by June, we're going

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Speaker 1: to start seeing the results of not only the continuation

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Speaker 1: of the tax cuts, but also all of this money

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Speaker 1: that has been pouring into the US economy since President

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Speaker 1: Trump took office. I think it's about too and and

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Speaker 1: inflation and energy prices are so key. When when President

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Speaker 1: Trump said drill, baby, drill and talked about how important

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Speaker 1: energy costs are when it comes to the entire economy,

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Speaker 1: because we run on we run on fossil fuels, we

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Speaker 1: run on energy, and it's gotta, it's gotta. The prices

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Speaker 1: are going to come down. I know they are because

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Speaker 1: I've already seen it.

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Speaker 9: What what well And then you know what happened in

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01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 9: Venezuela is just going to help us. The price continue

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 9: to go down. And guess what we might be getting

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Speaker 9: two thousand dollars tariff rebate checks that might be happening midyear.

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Speaker 9: So there are a lot of good things that I

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Speaker 9: think are going to be happening. You know, the tariffs

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Speaker 9: were instituted, and that so called experts said that that

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Speaker 9: was going to lead to high inflation, and that never materialized.

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Speaker 1: As far as the rebate checks go, Jeff, nobody needs

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Speaker 1: to buy my vote, I would rather see it go

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Speaker 1: to reduce the debt. And now we're finding out that

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Speaker 1: they're much there must there may be as much as

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Speaker 1: one point seven trillion dollars in fraud, not just from

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Speaker 1: the COVID scams and schemes, not just from Somali daycares,

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Speaker 1: but from Medicare and medicaid. That one point seven trillion

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01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: dollars would go a long way, although we're never going

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Speaker 1: to get the money back to you know, doing something

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: about that thirty eight trullion dollar debt we're all living with.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, DOSE was doing a great job on

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 9: covering fraud and they.

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Speaker 2: Randy Lundmok out of town.

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Speaker 9: I think the Vice president talked the other day about

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Speaker 9: having a special d o J Assistant Attorney General focused

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Speaker 9: on fraud, and I think that's good. So yeah, I

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01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 9: mean there's there's untold billion. Yeah, I think your state there,

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Speaker 9: that's just right for it.

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Speaker 1: You kind of you kind of faded out there, but

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Speaker 1: I got the gist of it. I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you about since you were a New Orleans born and

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01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: raised guy, I want to ask you about some recent

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: history of your city, and I want to take you

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: back to the jail break that occurred where all of

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: those inmates got out and they eventually rounded up and

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: the like. But do you know where that jail is

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: and have they done anything about it? And howt how

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: corrupt is the correctional system in the city in which

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Speaker 1: you live.

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Speaker 9: Well, one of the reasons why I believe twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: six will be a better year is because twenty twenty

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 9: five was so bad for New Orleans. Yeah, I mean,

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01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 9: we started with a terror attack and fourteen innocent people

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 9: were killed. The guy drove down Bourbon Street and the

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 9: police didn't barricade the street, so he was able to

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 9: access it and kill fourteen people. And then we had

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 9: a jail break. As he said, ten hardened criminals were

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 9: able to escape and they rode on the wall. You know, lol,

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01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 9: you know, too slow, too easy, I mean they were

1159
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 9: they just busted, busted through a toilet and had inside help.

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 9: Ten of them were on the loose. One of them

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 9: is finally caught months and months and months later. They

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Speaker 9: got them all. But one thing the voters did do

1163
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 9: is they throughout the sheriffs. And there's a new sheriff

1164
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 9: who's has responsibility for the prison and the new Sheriff's

1165
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 9: got a lot more credential, and I think it's going

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Speaker 9: to do a much better job.

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Speaker 1: Well, New Orleans has traditionally been such a heavy Democratic stronghold,

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Speaker 1: even when the rest of the state didn't necessarily go

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: along with the politics of that. Do you see New

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Speaker 1: Orleans changing at all as far as the electorate and

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Speaker 1: the people that they are voting into power? Will it

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Speaker 1: continue to be a Democrat stronghold? And will the the

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: well chronicled corruption continue in that city? It seems it

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: seems indem Yes, yes it will.

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Speaker 9: Well, we are a red we are a blue island

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Speaker 9: and a red sea. I mean Louisiana as a red state,

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Speaker 9: and New Orleans is the progressive capital. And you know,

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 9: we haven't elected a Republican mayor since eighteen seventy two.

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Speaker 9: There are no no, there are no Republicans in office.

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Speaker 4: None, zero, We don't have any.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's so bad.

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Speaker 9: In the last in the last election, the Republican candidate

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 9: for mayor, huh he got two percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, but we had something like that. Well, see, Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: is the same way. Ohio is a red state. Kentucky

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: on the other side of the Ohio River is basically

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: a red state, except in the state House in Frankfurt,

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: where we have Governor Basher, who I called the boyd

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Speaker 1: dictator during COVID and Cincinnati, I mean the guy who

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Speaker 1: was the Republican running against the incumbent aftab pure Vole,

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: which I enduringly call asshat pure evil.

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 6: But the.

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Speaker 1: Republican challenger was a local preacher, he owns a coffee shop.

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: He is in the community all the time talking to people,

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Speaker 1: and he got scant. I don't know if you even

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: got two percent of the vote, Jeff, and it's Cincinnati

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01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: is exactly the same way. But there seems to be

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Speaker 1: a maybe because of reputation, just a CD underbelly feeling

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Speaker 1: about New Orleans. Sometimes if you don't live there and

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Speaker 1: you think about it from a national perspective, are we

1201
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: way off base.

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Speaker 9: It's a great city to visit. I mean, we have

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 9: wonderful hospitality, with the best restaurants in the world. There's

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 9: so many fun things to do. We host a Super

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 9: Bowl better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: We got the Marti.

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Speaker 9: Garol coming up in a few weeks and it's any

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 9: of your listeners that have not been I recommend it's fantastic.

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 9: So if you know where to go and if you're

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 9: just careful, you can have a great time here. Unfortunately,

1211
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 9: we do have criminals that the Democrats don't want to

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 9: put behind bars, and we've got liberal judges and a

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 9: liberal da and we've got all these liberals and you know,

1214
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 9: their beliefs on criminal justice, very soft on crime, and

1215
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 9: those that have a law and order mentality just do

1216
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 9: not get elected, even conservative Democrats.

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Speaker 10: So we're burdened by all this. And it's a you know,

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01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 10: tale of two cities.

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 9: You've got the wonderful attractions, all the great things you

1220
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 9: can do, and then you've got the problems. And in

1221
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 9: the corruption. Just to give you a little example of

1222
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 9: the corruption, two out of our last three mayors.

1223
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Speaker 8: Have been indicted.

1224
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Speaker 9: We've got we've got a mayor now who's just left

1225
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 9: office today. So a new mayor was inaugurated today who

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01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 9: is another liberal Democrat. But the old liberal Democrat who

1227
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 9: just left is going to be going to trial over

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 9: the next few months. And you know, the beat goes

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 9: on one of the candidate, and it's for mayor was

1230
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 9: a former convicted city council member and voters chose did

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 9: not choose him, but chose another woman who's a former

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 9: broadcaster TV anchor, who is now going to be the mayor.

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 10: But she's she was.

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 9: Sworn in today by Kamala Harris, which gives you an

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 9: example of where she's coming from, no doubt.

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: So I remember famously Ray Nagan also found some legal trouble,

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: the same that's the same Ray Nagan, who, of course,

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: after Katrina, had they instituted vote by facts for mayor.

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: I remember that, and we all saw what voting by

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: mail did to the twenty twenty election. I can't imagine

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,879
Speaker 1: voting by facts being any more or stable, or efficient

1242
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: or actually legal, but that actually happened.

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 10: Rain Egen was a disaster.

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if you remember his speech

1245
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 9: where he vowed that New Orleans would remain.

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: A chocolate city.

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 8: Yes, he was. He was all.

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Speaker 9: Worried that, you know, after Katrina, you'd have some of

1249
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 9: the African American populations maybe to have white folks come

1250
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 9: in here. And the demographics didn't change much and the

1251
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 9: politics didn't change much.

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 10: So New Orleans is still a chocolate city.

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: Well you have Louisiana, no stranger to corruption and flamboyant

1254
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: politicians going all the way back to Huey Long, the Kingfish.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: You have one of I would say, one of my

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: favorite people in politics from Louisiana. And of course I'm

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: speaking of the one and only Senator John Kennedy, who

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: a treat He's a national treasure. What's the opinion of

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01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: John Kennedy there in your state, Jeff?

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's popular.

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 9: People see him on Fox News all the time.

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 8: He's someone who's.

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01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 9: Comfortably ahead in his reelection. He's going to run again,

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 9: I think, not in this cycle, but the next cycle.

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 9: The one who I think has got problems is Bill Cassidy,

1267
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 9: who is the rhino who voted to convict President Trump.

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 9: And he's got some serious competition coming up in the spring.

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 9: So Cassidy is I think unpopular. Kennedy is popular. So

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01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 9: we've got a split Senate delegation here.

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Speaker 1: I've got a friend who does a great John Kennedy impression,

1272
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: and maybe I can I can kind of approximate it

1273
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: and run this by you real quickly, if you don't mind,

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: if you'll indulge me.

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 8: Go ahead.

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01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, it's like this, I'd rather go to the

1277
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 1: butcher to find a good cut of steak. But AOC

1278
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: wants to stick your head up the bulls ass. He

1279
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: does the face and everything looks up. Well it's like this.

1280
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, very colorful character and very much appreciate.

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 8: What, no doubt what are you.

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 9: We do have colorful politicians down here in Louisiana. Remember

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 9: our former governor Edwin Edwards, I mean, you know, four

1284
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 9: times elected. I mean he ran against you know, KKK

1285
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 9: leader David Duke yep, and he famously said there's a

1286
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 9: similarity between David Duke and myself.

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 8: We're both wizards under the sheep.

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 10: I remember that.

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: It was incredible. I think I borrowed that line at

1290
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: one time or another. So you you do a show

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: called Ringside Politics. You're on twice daily on wgso.

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01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 9: On in the morning, yes, on in the morning, seven

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01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 9: to nine, in the evening, six to seven, correct.

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01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: All right, And what are you going to be talking

1295
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: about in the next day or so on Ringsite?

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 9: Well, we thought about the inauguration of the new mayor, okay,

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 9: and how she was inaugurated by with Kama hass.

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01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: Very good, very good President Trump. Can he do anything right?

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01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: In the eyes of Democrats?

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Speaker 11: Jeff no, I think, you know, I think it's an

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Speaker 11: interesting question.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 11: You know, Uh, we'll just have to just see.

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Speaker 9: How things turn out, you know, will be of course.

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Speaker 9: And what do we do on my show is you

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Speaker 9: know we follow all this stuff very closely he can,

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Speaker 9: and you know, we're examining it from every angle. And

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Speaker 9: I mean this is never adult day. I mean we

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Speaker 9: got so much, I mean, from the New Orleans, Louisiana corruption,

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Speaker 9: the politics, what's going on nationally. Donald Trump gives us

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Speaker 9: so many topics each and every day. I mean, it's just,

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Speaker 9: I mean it never ends. Were you, it's just every day,

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Speaker 9: every day we're just overloaded.

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Speaker 1: Were you personally in favor of sending uh some federal

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Speaker 1: law enforcement help to New Orleans as a president has

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Speaker 1: done in other cities?

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Speaker 8: Yes? And yes?

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Speaker 1: How I mean was that ever allowed to happen fully?

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Speaker 10: Or?

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Speaker 1: I know there was an uphill battle about that everywhere you.

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Speaker 6: Know, our liberal, our liberal.

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Speaker 9: You know, uh and the city council were against it. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: they they didn't want it. But the governor, who's a

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Speaker 9: Republican supported Jeff Landry, who's now the special envoy to Greenland.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, so we got help down here. Ice came

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Speaker 9: down and they got outside of these folks they needed

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Speaker 9: to be removed. And we've got the National Guard here

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Speaker 9: through Marti Gross which is on the seventeenth of February.

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Speaker 9: So you know, we got three hundred and fifty National

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Speaker 9: Guard soldiers who were supplementing.

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Speaker 2: The police, and the police need.

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Speaker 9: Help because they're only nine hundred officers. Were six hundred

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Speaker 9: officers short of what.

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Speaker 8: We should be.

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Speaker 1: Wow, is that because you can't hire them? Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to do the job. Is this part of some great

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Speaker 1: defunding reimagining effort by the local city government? Six hundred office.

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Speaker 9: They liked to hire them, they'd like to hire them,

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Speaker 9: you know. But after the George Floyd and the defund

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Speaker 9: the police, I mean, you had departments all over the

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Speaker 9: country that lost officers, and we were no exception. And

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Speaker 9: then we've had what's called a federal consent decree, so

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Speaker 9: our police department has been run by the federal government

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Speaker 9: for a few years because there were so much corruption,

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Speaker 9: you know, mismanagement and problems with the officer behavior. We

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Speaker 9: finally got that lifted. So bank goodness of Trump administration

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Speaker 9: lifted the federal consent decree. So now the NPD, the

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Speaker 9: Orange Police Department can run themselves, and I think that'll

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Speaker 9: help them recruit some more officers because they have a

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Speaker 9: good salary. I mean, they're paying decent salary. We're competitive

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Speaker 9: with the surrounding area. So I'm hoping we'll be able

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Speaker 9: to get some more. And you know now that the

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Speaker 9: corrupt mayor who is indicted is leaving the new mayor

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Speaker 9: who makes a better presentation and is a great communicator,

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Speaker 9: but she's a liberal, maybe there'll be more people that

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Speaker 9: want to come work for the NPD, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So how are carjackings.

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Speaker 9: Steady business for carjackers? But I think it's it's not

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Speaker 9: at the height. I mean, we were the crime capital

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Speaker 9: of the nation in twenty twenty two. We've actually shown

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Speaker 9: some progress since then. So I will give credit to

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Speaker 9: the governor because he sent a continuing in the state

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Speaker 9: police down here to help you in OPD and that's

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Speaker 9: helped us bring the crime rate down significantly.

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Speaker 1: Well, fantastic. I wish you a prosperous and safe twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six and have a good show, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon, I hope. Jeff Crueer Well.

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Speaker 9: From New Orleans I'm here whenever you need me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Sir.

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Speaker 1: Ringside Politics as his show, and he has a YouTube

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Speaker 1: show as well. Look for Cruere and mind your Piece

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: and q's and eat your gumbo. Darn it more of

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Speaker 1: the Nightcap. Just add on seven hundred WLW Hey January twelve,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. And joining us now on the telephone

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Speaker 1: is doctor Kazim Kaseronian. He's a professor of mechanical engineering

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Speaker 1: at the University of Connecticut, served as dean of the

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Speaker 1: College of Engineering there from twenty two well to twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, and a member of the Free Iran Scholars Network.

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Speaker 1: A passionate advocate for democracy and human rights, Doctor Caseronian

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Speaker 1: also an expert on Iran and the Middle East, and

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Speaker 1: there of course is so much focus on what is

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Speaker 1: going on inside Iran right now and what may very

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Speaker 1: well be happening in the near future to that theocratic

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Speaker 1: reign that the Iatolas have had an iron grip on.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the grip is slipping, and there were

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Speaker 1: people like doctor Kaseronian who are are anxious waiting for

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Speaker 1: a change in their home country. Doctor Kazeronian, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: It is wonderful to be with you today.

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Speaker 1: So you've been in this country obviously for a long time.

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Speaker 1: When did you When did you leave Iran? Did you

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Speaker 1: leave when the government fell, the Shah's government, or how

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Speaker 1: long have you been in America?

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Speaker 2: So about two months prior to that. It has been

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Speaker 2: now forty eight years that I have been in this country.

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Speaker 8: And I left.

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Speaker 2: Iran as a student two months before the revolution, and

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Speaker 2: right after the nineteen seventy and seventy nine revolution, my

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Speaker 2: wife and I became political refugees in this country and

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Speaker 2: could not go back anymore simply because you were opposing

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Speaker 2: the theocratic dictatorship that was being established then.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had gone back, a good chance

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Speaker 1: you'd probably be in prison or killed.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Our name has been actually on the list that

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Speaker 2: leads to exactly that. Yes, So all of that because

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Speaker 2: you were demonstrating in Chicago. That's where my wife and

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Speaker 2: I students in Chicago against and the regime against them,

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Speaker 2: taking American hostages against them, basically suppressing, very brutally suppressing

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Speaker 2: opposition inside Iran.

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Speaker 1: Now, there have been all kinds of rumors unsubstantiated that

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Speaker 1: because of the unrest within Iran of the people rising

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Speaker 1: up against this theocratic dictatorship, that maybe the Ayatola has

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Speaker 1: fled or the Mullas are fleeing. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: see that as being part of what's going on right now?

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that actually the people who have held

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Speaker 1: that iron grip for all these years are now turning

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Speaker 1: and running and hiding.

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Speaker 2: So there are a few things that I can definitely

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Speaker 2: cite as facts. One is that the fear has shifted.

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Speaker 2: The fear has shifted from people on the street to

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Speaker 2: the regime itself. And basically we are seeing that the

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Speaker 2: resistance units on the streets of Tehran as well as

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Speaker 2: the people, are attacking postar On, which is the revolutionary

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Speaker 2: gods of the current regime, and they're attacking them. They're

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Speaker 2: attacking their strongholds, they are attacking their bases, they're taking

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Speaker 2: their cars, they're burning their signs, they're burning their buildings.

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Speaker 2: So certainly there is there are elements within the current

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Speaker 2: Iranian army, the regime's army, revolutionary guards, that are putting

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Speaker 2: arms down and fleeing, and the Dietolas themselves they're ruling.

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Speaker 2: They're ruling class has been stealing the riches of the

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Speaker 2: country and sending it abroad, creating a ness for themselves

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Speaker 2: getting ready for days like this, this, this this uprising

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Speaker 2: that we are right now. I believe on day sixteen

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Speaker 2: of No it was we could clearly see that this

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Speaker 2: is coming. Not not the date and not the spark

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Speaker 2: that has started it, but it was very well expected.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this this time it's going to

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Speaker 2: lead to a total collapse of the regime or not,

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Speaker 2: but it's certainly moving in that direction. And I would

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Speaker 2: say that the factors, both the international factors as well

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Speaker 2: as the internal factors, have have lined up. Of course,

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: there are impediments. Of course, there are challengers, and we

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Speaker 2: can talk about what they are. But certainly we are

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Speaker 2: moving in a direction that my family and I have

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Speaker 2: been hoping for nearly fifty years now.

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Speaker 1: Amazing is and most of the most of the unrest

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Speaker 1: right now more in just revolting because the economy is

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01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: so is collapsing and people can't. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: famous saying in this country when it comes to our elections,

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Speaker 1: it's the economy stupid. Is this having as much to

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Speaker 1: do with what's going on right now? The current uprising

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01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: as any opposition to the theocratic rulers, it.

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Speaker 2: Is undoubtedly a critical element of it. Now that the

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: economy is in total collapse, the environment is also in

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01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,480
Speaker 2: total collapse. There is a bankruptcy of water inside.

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Speaker 6: Iran all the way Iran.

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Speaker 2: There are basically the agriculture has come down to a

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Speaker 2: halt because of lack of water. Because mismanagement of water resources,

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01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: there is a total shortage of fuel for cars and

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Speaker 2: energy for houses. And under top of that, the suppression

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Speaker 2: of personal freedoms for people, political freedoms for for everyone,

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Speaker 2: undrest in the universities because they lacked They lack the

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Speaker 2: freedom and the autonomy that academic environment should have. Everything

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Speaker 2: has lined up. At the same time, the Iranian regime

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Speaker 2: have lost its ability to negotiate on the nuclear stuff

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: for for obvious reasons. For because they have they have

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Speaker 2: lost their new new the atomic bomb production capability. At

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Speaker 2: least for now, they have lost their You know, Iran,

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Speaker 2: we have been referring to it as the head of

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Speaker 2: the snake, and they have lost their proxy forces in

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Speaker 2: the region.

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Speaker 12: With being in leven b in Lebanon, in in in Asa,

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Speaker 12: in in Graza and and other those areas being in

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Speaker 12: mn or Afhanissant or Iraq.

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Speaker 2: They have lost their regional power. So the Iranian regime

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Speaker 2: is at its leakest possible point, and the people and

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Speaker 2: the people's uprising has been is right now in the

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Speaker 2: in the most powerful position they have been in the

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Speaker 2: last fifty years.

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Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of Iranians, such

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Speaker 1: as yourself, who are in this country who are part

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Speaker 1: of UH I don't know. I've talked to a couple

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01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: of people who are part of the government in absentia

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01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: waiting for the Ayatolas to leave and the regime to

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Speaker 1: collapse completely, to go back. What would be your hope

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 1: if that does happen? If the regime collapses, the Iranian

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Speaker 1: Republican Guard lays down their weapons against the people. That's

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Speaker 1: that's always the danger. That's always a real flash point

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Speaker 1: in world history. When a brutal dictatorship that has an

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Speaker 1: iron fist over the people does finally collapse. In that vacuum,

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Speaker 1: sometimes there is something formed that's just as bad or worse.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, is what is your hope, doctor Caseronian?

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Speaker 2: So to begin with your last world, I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: anything worse than the characters in However, however, basically probably

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Speaker 2: about two years or two three years right to the

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventy nine revolution, a coalition, a democratic

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Speaker 2: coalition was formed under the name of National Council or

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Speaker 2: Resistancy of Iran. That coalition is a coalition of many

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Speaker 2: political organizations and non individual politicians, artists, university professors are

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Speaker 2: probably hundreds of them. And that coalition stands for a secular,

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Speaker 2: democratic republic in Iran. And I want to emphasize each

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Speaker 2: one of these wars. It needs to be democratic. People

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Speaker 2: need to be able to vote their own government and

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Speaker 2: their own rulers. It needs to be secular. There has

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Speaker 2: to be a total separation of religion and the government.

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Speaker 2: People should be able to freely practice their own religion.

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Speaker 2: And it has to be republic. Because the era of

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Speaker 2: monarchy and kings and sons of kings and being in

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 2: power because your genes dictate that are passed and it

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01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 2: has always been a disaster. Actually, we have Homini because

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Speaker 2: we had Shaw prior to that, and because of his

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Speaker 2: brutal suppression of the intellectuals and the universities and political opposition,

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01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 2: we ended up with Comany. We don't want to go

1516
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: back to it that I'm talking about this, I will

1517
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: be a messive. I don't mention that one of the

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01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 2: challenges that the people of Iran have right now is

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01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: smoky screens that are created by opportunistic forces that that

1520
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: all they do is muddy up the waters. They don't

1521
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 2: have coalitions, they don't have plans for Iran, and and

1522
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 2: top among this list of opportunistic forces is the son

1523
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: of the old Shah who is now suddenly back from

1524
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,799
Speaker 2: vacation and then from fifty years sixty years are enjoying

1525
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 2: the riches of the country that his father took and

1526
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: is claiming is claiming leadership, and that that would be

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01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 2: a disaster for the Iranian people. He's a figure that

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01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 2: is hated inside Iran, but there are there are some

1529
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: mouthpiece is and there are some special interest groups that

1530
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: are pushing him. So that is one thing that I'm

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01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 2: when I have an opportunity to talk to American people

1532
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 2: and through them to American politicians, emphasized that listen, Iranian

1533
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 2: people should have the opportunity to rule themselves, should have

1534
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: an opportunity to practice democracy, should have an opportunity to

1535
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: choose their own leaders. So we do not want to

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01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,759
Speaker 2: go back to monarchy. We do not want the current regime.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Casaronian, and again he is a

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01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: professor of engineering at the University of Connecticut. You've been

1539
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: there for a while. Did you receive engineering training when

1540
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: you were before you left Iran? Did that happen all

1541
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,480
Speaker 1: when you came to the United States.

1542
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Speaker 2: I thought that my engineering training in Iran, but that

1543
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: was about two three years before the revolution, and at

1544
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: the revolution time, a couple of months actually before that,

1545
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: because the universities were shut down. My wife and I

1546
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 2: left Iran the booth engineering a students and to continued

1547
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: our studies at the University of Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fantastic. I wanted to I wanted to

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01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: also ask you, is there is there a really strong

1550
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: Islamist kind of feeling among the people in Iran? I mean,

1551
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 1: would they continue those policies that the Iotolas have brought

1552
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: forth in the Middle East? Uh, the the continued death

1553
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: to Israel, death to America kind of sentiment that we've

1554
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: seen in in these Islamist strongholds. I mean, what what

1555
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: is what is the people's mindset in Iran who aren't

1556
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: part of the government.

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01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 2: So it is actually a wonderful question, and I'm happy

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01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to correspond to that. Like any

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01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: other community, like any other society, like American society, there

1560
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: is a broader spectrum of people, people who are religion religious,

1561
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 2: and people who do not practice religion, and that there

1562
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: are all sorts of gray areas in between them.

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01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 8: So is Iran.

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01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: Homini represents a very small faction of the Iranians, a

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01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: very very small of the Iranians who are so fundamentalist

1566
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 2: and who are so radical in their beliefs and have

1567
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 2: very skewed ideas and interpretations of what the religion is.

1568
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that you can find small radical factions

1569
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: like that in any other religion. They do not present

1570
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: the Iranian people. And actually, if you ask me, I

1571
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: don't even think that they are musclim There are good

1572
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: religious people. They are Muslims simply because the prostitution in Iran,

1573
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 2: for example, is controlled and run by the revolutionary guards.

1574
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 2: They're smuggling of drugs, they're smuggling of alcohol in Iran,

1575
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 2: although if they catch someone with these things probably the

1576
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: punishment is severe, goes all the way to execution is

1577
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: controlled by the current regime. These these are a bunch

1578
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 2: of thiefs and thiefs and and dogs that are running

1579
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: the country. And I think that for for now they

1580
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: have found religion to be a good instrument too to

1581
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 2: advance their ill wills, and and and before and and

1582
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:05,440
Speaker 2: beyond the Iran they they export this ideology to Iraq,

1583
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 2: to to the whole region, to Iraq, to to Lebanon,

1584
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 2: to Panistan, to Yemen, to all those other areas, to Turkey.

1585
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: So if Iran, if he ran, if hern experiences democracy,

1586
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: we're going to see a tsunami of democracy in the region.

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01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: You're going to just imagine how much has been the

1588
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: cost of fighting fundamentalism to the West, to United States,

1589
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 2: for in particular, how much have we as taxpayers in

1590
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 2: America have paid for fighting fundamentalists, fundamentalism in Iran and

1591
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: its impacts in the region. By getting rid of that,

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01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: we actually, you know, there would be such a welcome

1593
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 2: chance into the whole world. We're going to feel the

1594
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: ramifications of that everywhere. And then I should also indicate

1595
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 2: that the Iranians are not asking for American boots underground

1596
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 2: or any boots underground. They're not asking for weapons, they're

1597
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 2: not asking for arms. They're not asking for money. All

1598
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 2: they're asking is for the rest to recognize their rights

1599
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 2: to resist and as and and as such, implement policies,

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01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 2: implement sanctions against the current regime, the revolutionary guards, and

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01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: anyone who is affiliated with that, and and and and

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01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 2: truly truly respect those sanctions.

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01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think the current American administration has been doing

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01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: that because him for uh the last year, and they've

1605
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 1: been very clear that they're going to enforce those sanctions.

1606
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: To cut off already and oil is to cut off

1607
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: the money supply which which they import their murder and

1608
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: mayhem the rest of the Middle East. But it wasn't

1609
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: always that way. The former administration seemed to, I don't know,

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01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:27,520
Speaker 1: almost encourage Iran to continue that that kind of activity

1611
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: in that part of the world.

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01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 2: You are, I couldn't agree with you more. The policy

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01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: of appeasement that we have experience, appeasement of the Iranian

1614
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: regime that we have experienced over the last I would

1615
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 2: say thirty years have been disastrous, not only disasters for

1616
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 2: the Iranian people, but disasters for the whole world. And

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01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: it has been welcome by the Iranian rulers. I am

1618
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: so delighted to to know that President Trump is serious

1619
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: about the sanctions, is serious about change in Iran, is

1620
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: serious about holding the Iranian rulers accountable for their crimes.

1621
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 2: At the same time, No, there's always this this worry

1622
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: incite me that if something might change and we may

1623
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,520
Speaker 2: go back to the policies of appeasement.

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01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that that.

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01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. You know, Barack Obama famously went on

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01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: his what they called an apology tour when he took

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01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: office in the Middle East, and all of the money

1628
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: that was sent to Iran and the the nod in

1629
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: a wink to their nuclear program and everything else that

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01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 1: was done. This had to be undone in the last

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01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: year of President Trump's second term, and you know, he

1632
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: did a lot during his first term, and then that

1633
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: was all unwound by Joe Biden in his administration. So

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01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: I think that we're seeing a positive foreign policy towards

1635
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: Iran now, and it's it's actually pro Iranian people, but

1636
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: against the Iranian regime. And that's the important distinction we

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01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: all have to make.

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01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 8: I think.

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01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely yes, and I appreciate the distinction. Know that, you know,

1640
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: you mentioned President Barack Obama. I remember that there was

1641
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: a major uprising when he was in the office in

1642
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 2: the United States and people sent on the street where Obama, Obama,

1643
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:55,879
Speaker 2: are you with them or US? I'm translating it to English,

1644
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 2: but this was the chance, are you with them? Them

1645
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 2: being the Onion regime or US? And and unfortunately he

1646
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: ended up with them, and as you said, provided them

1647
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: a ton of money as a life, as a lifeline

1648
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 2: to survive, and they did survive, and they did glorish

1649
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: because of that support. That that must have stopped. Two

1650
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 2: things I would I would appeal to American politicians and

1651
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 2: two things. One is that the appeasement does not work

1652
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 2: inside the government inside Iran. There are no rules there.

1653
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 6: There is no one.

1654
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: That that could come out and suddenly become democratic after

1655
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 2: fifty years.

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01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 1: And what's what's the What's the second thing, real quick, doctor, The.

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01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 2: Second thing is that the shaw has the Sun is

1658
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: not an alternative for the Iranian people. Right, don't don't

1659
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: fall for it. We made that mistake in nineteen fifty.

1660
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 2: We paid the price for about eighty years. Now, don't

1661
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: repeat that.

1662
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 1: Doctor Kazim Caasaronian, thank you so much for your time,

1663
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and I pray that your country returns to the world

1664
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 1: of civility.

1665
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and it was wonderful to be

1666
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 2: on your show.

1667
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for being here. I appreciate your time. JT.

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01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Young will close out the Nightcap in just a few minutes.

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01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 1: On the Nightcap on seven under WLW our next guest

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01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: is a repeat offender. I mean he's a repeat cat.

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01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: He's not an offender. He has been on the program

1672
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 1: multiple times and we always have him back, but because

1673
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: he's one of the most thoughtful writers on politics and

1674
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: opinion in the country and current events, and he is

1675
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: back for another bite at the Apple tonight and we're

1676
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: so glad to have him back. JT. Young, Welcome back

1677
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: to the show. How are you.

1678
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 10: I am fine, Gary, and it's great to start a new.

1679
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 6: Year with you.

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01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of articles that we'll start

1681
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: with here in the Conversation on Blaze Media, and you

1682
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:19,480
Speaker 1: can find JT. Young's work on Substack and often on Blaze.

1683
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: The fraud that thrived under Democrats in Minnesota and the

1684
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: no questions asked rule that was at work in that

1685
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: state apparently for a long long time, and especially under

1686
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the reign of the current governor, Tim walls. As you write,

1687
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 1: you start, Democrats bear clear responsibility for Minnesota's spiraling federal

1688
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 1: program payment scandal. Either they failed to conduct meaningful oversight

1689
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: of billions in public funds over many years, or they

1690
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: conducted none at all. Their early response to the scandal

1691
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 1: explains why they subjected its perpetrators to an unconscionably low

1692
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: standard of scrutiny, and I think that is becoming more

1693
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:10,480
Speaker 1: and more apparent by the day. JT. What is troubling

1694
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: is I just talked to a friend last night who

1695
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: lives out in Colorado, but she's got very good friends

1696
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: she's known for like twenty five years, who live in Minneapolis,

1697
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: about actually about three miles away from where the ice

1698
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: protests were being conducted over the weekend, And they said,

1699
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: sure they knew about the scandal. Nobody seemed to care.

1700
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, at a certain level, yeah, the Democrats

1701
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: bear responsibility, But the people who elected them, who apparently

1702
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 1: don't care that billions of tax dollars, federal tax dollars

1703
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: went out the door by fraudulent means, Apparently the citizenry

1704
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 1: doesn't care very much. Your thoughts on.

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01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 10: That, Yeah, I certainly hope that's not the case. I

1706
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 10: think what we're I think, you know, you'll see isolated

1707
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 10: incidents in your own life, and I think we're going

1708
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 10: to see this more and more, especially as more goes

1709
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:15,520
Speaker 10: to trial, more people are convicted, and more people are

1710
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 10: encouraged to strike plea deals, you know, for more lenient sentences,

1711
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 10: and they start giving over more evidence.

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01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 6: That we have.

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01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, these people were ignored or shunted a side, or actually,

1714
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 10: in some cases we're hearing, you know, we're persecuted for

1715
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 10: trying to be whistleblowers. I think that so often people

1716
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 10: saw only the microcosm in which they live, But we're

1717
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 10: going to see all these dots.

1718
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 6: Start to connect.

1719
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 10: I think over the next months, as more of these

1720
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 10: come forward and more scrutiny has given, more people are

1721
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 10: taken trial, and I think the massive scope is beyond anything.

1722
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 6: That we really know now or.

1723
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 10: That any of the people who had witnessed fraud. You know,

1724
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 10: you always imagine, well, maybe this is.

1725
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 6: Just happening in my own neighborhood, Maybe.

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01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 10: This is just a one off episode, you know. I

1727
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 10: think most people generally try to give the benefit of

1728
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 10: the doubt, and I think what we're going to see

1729
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 10: is no this was organized, that this was ongoing, this

1730
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 10: was going on for years, and because there was a

1731
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 10: sense that there would be no accountability, that this whole

1732
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 10: scandal actually probably you know, grew like a cancer, you know,

1733
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 10: so rapidly that I would bet that a lot of

1734
01:47:55,760 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 10: the fraudsters were themselves shocked that we can now take

1735
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 10: this to a level.

1736
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Speaker 6: That we had never imagined. And I think what we're.

1737
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 10: Going to see is we're going to see numbers, We're

1738
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 10: going to see incidents, We're going to see duration that

1739
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 10: no one ever expected. And yet I think we're going

1740
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 10: to find that in some of these cases that there

1741
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 10: may have been actual complicity with people in the government

1742
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 10: that knew this was going up and absolutely turned the

1743
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 10: blind eye to it.

1744
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh there has to be And you know Keith Ellison,

1745
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: who's the attorney general of that state, a former congressman,

1746
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: that is on tape saying to a group, don't worry,

1747
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,959
Speaker 1: I'll protect you, you know, as the fraud is being committed,

1748
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: apparently with his full knowledge. I mean, what kind of

1749
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: a legal liability is he possibly facing? JT. Do you

1750
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: think no?

1751
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, at the end of the day,

1752
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 10: you're ultimate one is the voters. And this brings us

1753
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 10: back to where you were absolutely right. You know, are

1754
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 10: Minnesotans who are you know, are are are good people

1755
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 10: who you know have elected people and expected government.

1756
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 6: To run in a normal way.

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01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 10: Is this going to be the tipping point? Because I

1758
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:31,520
Speaker 10: think what we have seen is that an extremist Democrat leadership.

1759
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 10: And yes that starts with Tim Walls, and yes it

1760
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,879
Speaker 10: extends down through the party. It goes to certainly Jacob

1761
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 10: Fray is the Minneapolis mayor.

1762
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 6: These people have governed Minnesota like it was Massachusetts. It's not.

1763
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 10: And if you look at election returns, especially at the

1764
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 10: presidential level, the Democrats have been skating on a thin margin,

1765
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 10: but they've been governing as though they were on the bopoly.

1766
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 6: And I think, and.

1767
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:07,839
Speaker 10: I certainly hope that with these revelations, people will finally say.

1768
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 6: Enough and we're going to throw them out.

1769
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 10: And that's what it's going to take.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you get basically one party rule, even if

1771
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: it's by a thin margin at the polls, this is

1772
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: what you get. You get fraud, corruption because there's no

1773
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: one there to check them. And you mentioned Massachusetts, you

1774
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: mentioned or didn't mention California, but that's another state that

1775
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 1: basically has one power, one party rule, an iron grip

1776
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 1: on power. And you know that the phrase absolute power

1777
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: corrupts absolutely definitely applies in this case.

1778
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 10: I think no, I think you're right, and I've been

1779
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 10: You know, monopolies are bad things, but it's so funny

1780
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 10: that Democrats rail against them and everything but the ones

1781
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 10: they control, and you don't.

1782
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 6: See them except in government.

1783
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 10: You know, in a free market, people will come in,

1784
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 10: they will enter into a market, they will compete, even

1785
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 10: at the smallest level than the ones that are successful

1786
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 10: will grow. But in a winner take all election, as

1787
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 10: just as you said, all you have to do is

1788
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 10: keep holding onto those thin majorities. But we have seen

1789
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 10: and you do see if you look at Minnesota's election results,

1790
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 10: those margins have been very thin, and less than a

1791
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:40,480
Speaker 10: five percent voter swing in Minnesota would have turned Minnesota

1792
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 10: read for the first time since nineteen seventy two in

1793
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 10: the last presidential election. That's not a lot. And hopefully

1794
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 10: now as people see this scandal and the Democrats complicity

1795
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 10: in it, that this will be enough to finally push

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01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 10: Minnesota over and we may have We're going to have

1797
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 10: a good matorial race there that's up. Will Klobatar run

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01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,759
Speaker 10: for that who's a sitting senator.

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Speaker 6: They've already got.

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01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 10: One of their senators who's retiring and who's running for

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01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 10: that seat. But the lieutenant governor who would be was

1802
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 10: Walls's number two during this scandal. Yeah, I bring these

1803
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 10: elections up. These are all opportunities for the Minnesota populace

1804
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 10: to register their disapproval with the party that's brought them

1805
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 10: these scandals.

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01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be even with the

1807
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 1: scandal and all the evidence that this has been going

1808
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: on under the Democrats watch, do you think that it's

1809
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna be maybe softened by the fact that it's a

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01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: midterm election and usually, you know, the party in power

1811
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: in Washington doesn't do well in those midterm elections, I

1812
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: mean traditionally. Let yeah, let's switch gears into that we're here.

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01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, I think you make a very good point.

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01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 10: And especially if we see something like Clobatorre, who's you know,

1815
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 10: is not involved as far as we know with this scandal,

1816
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 10: if she runs for governor, well then that would free

1817
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 10: up another another Senate seat, so they would have to

1818
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 10: have she can appoint a temporary replacement. But then they

1819
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 10: would have to have an election for that. You have

1820
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 10: the Senate election for Senator Smith who's retiring, and Flanagan

1821
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 10: is running, you know, and Flannagan has already gone and

1822
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 10: shot a video in which she donned the head scarf.

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01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 6: Uh and I saw that, you know, announced.

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01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 10: Her a solidarity with the Somali community. They're trying to

1825
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 10: make this into a fraud investigation look like racism. You know,

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01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 10: Flannagan is very much tied through the administration to the

1827
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 10: scandal and the lack of oversight. So I think there's

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01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 10: a good chance that she may feel the effect of this.

1829
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 10: And then if you had another Senate seat that has

1830
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 10: to be decided if clover Charge should win at.

1831
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,839
Speaker 6: The governor's race and vacate that seat.

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01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 10: I mean, the Democrats bench has got to be pretty tense,

1833
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 10: and we'll be sinn further by this scandal. So I

1834
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 10: think there's a good chance here. And then if you

1835
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 10: skip ahead to twenty twenty eight, which is now just

1836
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 10: two years away, if you have someone like a JD. Vance,

1837
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 10: if you have a Marco Rubio as the Republican nominee,

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 10: someone who would allow people who have been negative on

1839
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 10: Trump in Minnesota to relook at you know, that would

1840
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 10: give him an excuse to relook at the Republicans. I

1841
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 10: think that there are a lot of opportunities here despite

1842
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 10: the midterm, that the localized scandal could be enough to

1843
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 10: make people really reevaluate where they've been voted.

1844
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Well, it's a shame that we live in an environment

1845
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: and I understand that the President has played his role

1846
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: in this JT. But people who vote Democrat just because

1847
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: they can't stand Trump. I mean, there are a lot

1848
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: of people like me who voted for President Trump three

1849
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 1: times and would I would have foorth if constitutionally possible.

1850
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 1: But you know, being such a lightning rod and being

1851
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: someone that either you love him or you hate him,

1852
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: there's very little middle ground. You're right, A JD. Vance

1853
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 1: or a Marco Rubio would be a lot easier for

1854
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: people to take if they realized it was in their

1855
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: best interest to keep Democrats out of federal office, out

1856
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: of the executive chair of the White House, and in

1857
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: control of the House.

1858
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 10: And that you have these examples right in your own neighborhood,

1859
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 10: so to speak. I mean, these are Minnesota scandals. I

1860
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 10: thoroughly expect this scandal to go out beyond Minnesota.

1861
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I agree, And a lot of that

1862
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 1: was tied to all these these COVID giveaways. You know,

1863
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: COVID wasn't just an epidemic, a man made virus that

1864
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: leaked out of China and around the world. It wasn't

1865
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: just that it caused illness and caused governments to be

1866
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 1: authoritarian and make all these ridiculous mandates that weren't in

1867
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: many cases scientific, like the six foot rule. But COVID

1868
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 1: was more than that. COVID kept these kids out of

1869
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: school and retarded learning here in this country for a

1870
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 1: whole new generation of young people for no reason. COVID

1871
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 1: also created this this slush fund that was able to

1872
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: be you know, defrauded so easily because there was so

1873
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: many dollars flowing out nobody was even checking where they

1874
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: were going in many cases, correct, I mean, COVID, the

1875
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen was so deadly in so many ways in

1876
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 1: our society.

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Speaker 6: Right. No, you're absolutely right. It was a seismic.

1878
01:57:52,760 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Event, and not just from a health standpoint. No, JT.

1879
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: You went away, government, you went away for a second.

1880
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 3: You there, Yeah, I'm here, Okay.

1881
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: Keep talking.

1882
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 10: Well, I think, uh, you know, from a governing standpoint.

1883
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 10: It was a seismic event as well as a health one.

1884
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 10: And we've already known, uh, you know, it was known

1885
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 10: some time ago that there was a lot of fraud.

1886
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 10: But I think again, we truly don't know how much

1887
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 10: fraud occurred, and I doubt we ever will. But if

1888
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 10: you remember, during a lot of those pandemic programs, people

1889
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 10: were allowed to self certify that they were eligible. People

1890
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 10: were literally throwing money out the door, yes and ordered,

1891
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 10: and they thought to keep the you know, the the

1892
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 10: economy in sustained during the shutdowns that other governments were

1893
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 10: inflicting at the state level. But it was intended to

1894
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 10: just get money out the door. And I think we're

1895
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 10: now seeing those chickens come home to roost. We're finding

1896
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 10: out that not only did this fraud encourage or not

1897
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 10: only did these programs encourage fraud, but they encourage people

1898
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 10: to think we can do this on a regular basis.

1899
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 10: It doesn't just have to be nobody's scrutinizing us at all.

1900
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 10: So let's continue to do it, and we can do

1901
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 10: it on a bigger and bigger levels.

1902
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 1: For example, on a personal note, JT. I was still working.

1903
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: In fact, I was working more on the radio than

1904
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: I had previously. I'm just a part time employee, but

1905
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: because the Reds and the baseball season had been suspended,

1906
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: I was able to work many, many shifts all through

1907
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 1: the summer, which I usually can't do. Now the bar

1908
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: was closed down where I was slinging drinks, but I

1909
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 1: was still making good money here, more than I would

1910
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 1: usually just for doing this my chosen profession. My wife,

1911
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: on the other hand, could not work her regular job,

1912
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: and she got the benefit of those government COVID checks

1913
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 1: every month. We were making more money than we had

1914
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: as a couple the entire time we've been married during

1915
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: the COVID thing. And you know, it was there. We

1916
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 1: weren't defrauding anybody that they were willingly writing her a check,

1917
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, every month for X amount of dollars, no

1918
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 1: matter what what her income had been before. I mean,

1919
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, outside of not being able to go anywhere

1920
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: or people telling us to mask up everywhere we went,

1921
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't really a bad time for us personally. I

1922
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: got to be honest but kind so so what we're

1923
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: talking about, though, you can imagine with people see all

1924
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: this money being just thrown into the into the economy.

1925
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: The fraudsters and the people seeking uh you know, a

1926
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 1: criminal advantage here without ever being punished for it is huge.

1927
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 1: It's human nature.

1928
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, and it was there for the taking. Yeah.

1929
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Speaker 10: And when it's there for the taking, you can bet

1930
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Speaker 10: that there will be.

1931
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 6: People there who will look to take their.

1932
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 10: Advantage and that opportunity to illegal links. And we're seeing that.

1933
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 10: But you know, it's it's extending well beyond just because

1934
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 10: I think when you see this, you're going to realize that,

1935
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 10: oh yeah, they were. They were taking advantage of defrauding

1936
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Speaker 10: ongoing government programs as well.

1937
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Speaker 1: Oh, Medicare, Medicaid. Absolutely. I heard one estimate when someone

1938
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 1: say country wide there could be as much as one

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Speaker 1: point seven trillion dollars in fraud. If you factor in

1940
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Speaker 1: all the federal government and how they've been taking advantage

1941
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Speaker 1: of our debt's thirty eight trillion. So that's that's almost

1942
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Speaker 1: two trillion dollars we could knock off the debt if

1943
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Speaker 1: we could just find and choke off the fraud, right.

1944
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Speaker 10: Well, if you can stop it from going out, yes,

1945
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Speaker 10: you can sert you could do it in the future.

1946
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Speaker 10: You're never going to get that money back. I mean

1947
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Speaker 10: you know that you can bet that this money was

1948
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Speaker 10: spirited away very quickly, with people who were smart enough

1949
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Speaker 10: to realize if we get caught, we want to make

1950
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Speaker 10: sure they don't. We don't mind that they take the

1951
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Speaker 10: underlings to jail, but we want to make sure that

1952
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Speaker 10: we retain the assets. So you can bet it was

1953
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Speaker 10: squirreled away in places that it'll never be retrieved.

1954
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Speaker 1: Out of the mini in Apple there was a report

1955
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that out of the

1956
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis airport alone there were some seven hit seven hundred

1957
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Speaker 1: million dollars that supposedly went out in suitcases to Somalia. Well,

1958
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Speaker 1: this was going on, and that's just in Minneapolis. And

1959
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Speaker 1: that's money that's not going out the door. It's it's

1960
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Speaker 1: going out of the country, right, I mean.

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Speaker 10: That's it's already been spent, and it's been spent by

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Speaker 10: people who couldn't care less that you have caught the

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Speaker 10: people that sent them the money.

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Speaker 1: You can read JT and Blaze Media on substack and

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming back on the show. It's a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you anytime, JT YouTube.

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Speaker 6: And happy to do. You're a Gangaian.

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Speaker 1: All the best you too, JT. Young on the night

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Speaker 1: cap as we continue taking privacy policy in terms and

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Speaker 1: conditions posted to texting terms got us texting rules you

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Speaker 1: for acurring what if it takes marketing messages?

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Speaker 1: This is an important message for all parents of teens.

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