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Speaker 1: It's NIC's Eyes with Dan ray ngoating Beasy Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Bradley Jy for Dan Tonight. Our first guest is Brendan Crichton.

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Speaker 2: He's a state senator from the third Essex District. He

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Speaker 2: serves Lynn Lynnfield Marblehead and the Hot Saga Swampscut grew

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Speaker 2: up and Lynn, I believe went to the public schools

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Speaker 2: there and now he's in the big time. And so

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us on night side.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Bradley, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Having me absolutely now.

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Speaker 2: Many of us are fed up with the lawless, crazy

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Speaker 2: behavior we see observed by gas powered scooter operators and

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Speaker 2: the proliferation of these so called e bikes that can

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Speaker 2: go forty miles an hour and they're really heavy, they

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Speaker 2: can carry cargo, and they use bike lanes as if

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Speaker 2: there were bicycles, and sometimes they use sidewalks, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of money was spent and real estate was used

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Speaker 2: up to great bike lanes to make bicycle use safer.

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Speaker 2: But these have been taken over by those those two items,

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Speaker 2: gas scooters and these big, heavy, fast e bikes. And

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Speaker 2: when I heard that, you kind of share my concerns

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to make sure we got you on

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Speaker 2: the program here because I feel I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'm alone or not.

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Speaker 3: Now I know I'm not all alone, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Really happy that you and at least one of your

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Speaker 2: colleagues has concerns and I are actually working to perhaps

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Speaker 2: write some legislation.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, no, thank you, Brady. Now we are we

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Speaker 1: are fed up. I think most of the legislatures and

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Speaker 1: most of my constituents, including my wife, are fed up.

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Speaker 1: We hear about this regularly. Obviously, we see it, you know,

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Speaker 1: with our own eyes anytime you go out and you're

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Speaker 1: on our roads, whether you're you know, walking or riding

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Speaker 1: a bike or riding a car, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: reality is is that we don't have a system of

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Speaker 1: regulations in place here in Massachusetts. Is really the case

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Speaker 1: across the country. So, you know, a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago we started to dive into the issue a bit

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Speaker 1: more and realized it needed an in depth study. We

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Speaker 1: proposed a commiss which we'll be wrapping up its work soon,

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Speaker 1: and we hope to take the recommendations there and turn

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Speaker 1: that into legislation, with the goal of getting something on

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Speaker 1: the books by the end of session.

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Speaker 2: How is the study, what are the nuts and boats

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Speaker 2: of the study? How does it work?

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Speaker 1: So it's a great range of wide grains of stakeholders

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Speaker 1: that have come together as part of this commission, and

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Speaker 1: you know, taking a look at what's been done at

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Speaker 1: other places across the country, you know, bringing experts from

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Speaker 1: the industry, certainly public safety, having law enforcement at the table.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think when it comes down to

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Speaker 1: what we need to have, you know, established really universal

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Speaker 1: and adaptable framework for classifying and regulating these vehicles. You know,

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Speaker 1: the technology is changing all the time. You mentioned you know,

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Speaker 1: e bytes and the gas powered scooters. You know, some

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Speaker 1: of these devices that we say out there out of

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Speaker 1: like science fiction. Like there's so many different kinds than

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Speaker 1: the market, and technology is only increasing and keeping up

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Speaker 1: with it is a challenge. But I think the big

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Speaker 1: factor that we look at when we're classifying, I think

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Speaker 1: needs to be around speed and the potential to cause

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Speaker 1: bodily injury. This these types of vehicles play a role

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Speaker 1: in transportation and last mile certainly the reduced congestion by

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Speaker 1: getting cars off the road. It's just you know, a

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Speaker 1: cheaper alternative to getting around. You know, part of the economy.

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Speaker 1: But the first thing we need to do when we

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Speaker 1: look at anything related to transportation is the safety of

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Speaker 1: the public. So we need to get this right, and

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Speaker 1: we need to do it soon.

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Speaker 2: Right, I have no problem with those vehicles as long

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Speaker 2: as they remain in the area they should remain for safety,

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Speaker 2: and as long as they obey the rules that are

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Speaker 2: there for everybody's safety.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and I think right now you know they're

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Speaker 1: really aren't rules. And for the limited rules that we

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Speaker 1: do have people unaware of them. And certainly you know

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Speaker 1: you see younger and younger folks, I mean kids driving

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Speaker 1: to school and these things, no helmets on, not knowing

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Speaker 1: what the rules are. I'm sure you know many of

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Speaker 1: the parents don't understand it. You know, some of these

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Speaker 1: activities are unsafe. They're marketed lead to kids. Is you know,

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Speaker 1: a biking scooter would have been in our day, but

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Speaker 1: they go up to forty miles per hour, many cases

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Speaker 1: over that. And we need to make sure that whether

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Speaker 1: it's helmer requirements, licensing, insurance, you know, all these areas

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Speaker 1: are looked at and applied. And then obviously the awareness

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Speaker 1: challenge any affortmate piece will be a challenge, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get these recommendations in play, our

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Speaker 1: recommendations out there for public discourse and to get this

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Speaker 1: moving as quickly as we can.

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Speaker 3: What is your sense of how many of your colleagues

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Speaker 3: are on board with you and with me?

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think folks recognize that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: actually they are. They are on board because you recognize

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Speaker 1: as I do, that this is part of the transportation system,

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Speaker 1: but that rules need to be in place and they

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Speaker 1: need to be followed. So no one's going to be

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Speaker 1: opposed to the public safety measures. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to solve it all in

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Speaker 1: one piece of legislation. But if we can get again

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Speaker 1: this classification system in place, along with regulations and certainly

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Speaker 1: work with law enforcement to make sure that this is

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Speaker 1: enforceable as possible, that I think we could get something past. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: you know, both the cent in the House have expressed

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Speaker 1: interest in getting something done. I work closely with my coach,

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Speaker 1: he Jim Rcierro on the Transportation Committee, who's eager to

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Speaker 1: tackle this as well, and the governor has been at

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Speaker 1: the forefront on this Governor Haley. You know, she's really

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Speaker 1: led on this commission good. So hopefully we'll have legislation soon.

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Speaker 1: I imagine we'll have a public hearing, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from a wide range of folks on the

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Speaker 1: issue with the clocks ticking and with you know, every

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Speaker 1: passing week you hear of another serious accident and very

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Speaker 1: sadly some tragic losses of life as well, So I

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Speaker 1: don't think we can afford to wait.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real on the Cape.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken about that horrific incident on the Cape and

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Speaker 2: life was lost in Copley Square area, and another one

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Speaker 2: a young person on some sort of vehicle. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what was it, if it was an ee bike

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Speaker 2: or a gas powered scooter, but it's a real danger.

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Speaker 3: And how what are you feeling about them using.

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Speaker 2: About gas powered delivery scooters kind of usurping and taking

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Speaker 2: over lanes intended for bicycles for for business purposes, the

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Speaker 2: purpose of delivering food for people. It's now kind of

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Speaker 2: a super highway for those gas powered scooters delivering food

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Speaker 2: or whatever, and at the same time not obeying the rules.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I certainly have concerns with that. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to look at the type of vehicle,

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Speaker 1: We're going to look at the operator in terms of regulations,

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Speaker 1: and then it's you know, where are they allowed to

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Speaker 1: go And to the higher speed vehicles, they absolutely should

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Speaker 1: not be in a bike lane, They shouldn't be on

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Speaker 1: a shared path. They should be on the road where

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Speaker 1: they belong and where it's safe. For the lower speed

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Speaker 1: e bikero mobility, you know vehicles, uh, if you know

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Speaker 1: they're going at comparable speeds to bikes, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a place for them in bike wanes, but

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Speaker 1: for what you're describing in terms of delivery drivers, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we didn't dive into you know, commercial

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Speaker 1: versus you know, your average person, average commuter getting to

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Speaker 1: where they need to go. But you know, we certainly

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Speaker 1: do want to work with any of these you know,

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Speaker 1: riudeer companies and any other businesses that are utilizing these

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Speaker 1: that they know the rules as we we adopt them.

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Speaker 2: If I had my d brothers, I'll list what I

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Speaker 2: would like to see happening. Maybe you can let me

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Speaker 2: know if.

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Speaker 1: That's I'll give you a wink whether it's in there

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Speaker 2: Okay, First, all gas powered scooters, stand up scooters, and

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Speaker 2: so called e bikes have to be registered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so the different levels of e bikes,

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Speaker 1: so you know there are slower I think based on

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Speaker 1: the speed is rarely where you'll have to make that determination.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is going to be an open,

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Speaker 1: open debate. We don't have anything, you know, a bill

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Speaker 1: is not out there right now that based on any

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Speaker 1: of the recommendations that we're working on go ahead. No, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say we I think we have legislators

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Speaker 1: always need to keep an open mind on these things.

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Speaker 1: But I think yeah, for the faster vehicles, certainly a

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Speaker 1: license requirement and registration makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And they should be ensured if you get hit, uh,

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Speaker 2: and they're not assured. It's just like any just like

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Speaker 2: an automobile. Shouldn't they I'll be insured as.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, yeah, I think for for certain vehicles,

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Speaker 1: insurance should be should be a part of it as well. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's so many vehicles that it's hard for me to uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, really really specify on it. But I like

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Speaker 1: some of the slower ones and the ones that.

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Speaker 2: Like the ones you can actually peddle, I certainly think

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Speaker 2: should be treated differently. But I went into an e

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Speaker 2: very fast ones and said, this is too heavy to pedal,

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Speaker 2: and I was told that in some cases, really the

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Speaker 2: pedals are just stuck on there to make them legal

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Speaker 3: That's what I was taught.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they're going, if they are able to

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Speaker 1: go at a higher speed, they should not be a

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Speaker 1: lot of bikelines. And that's something I think we're committed to.

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Speaker 3: All right, How about this delivery scooters.

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Speaker 2: Commercial delivery scooter operators must be employees of whatever they

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Speaker 2: company they work for, rather than independent contractors. So the

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Speaker 2: companies are legally responsible for damage and injury they cause

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Speaker 2: that's caused by the delivery operator. So if their delivery

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Speaker 2: person delivering their food or whatever hit somebody, they're kind

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Speaker 2: of on the hook. That way, they would be encouraging

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Speaker 2: their employee delivery people to obey the law.

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Speaker 1: I understand where he comes from. I don't think we're

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Speaker 1: going to dive too much into the classification of employees,

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Speaker 1: but I understand the sentiment there, and I do think

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Speaker 1: moving forward, trying to work with the companies to make

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Speaker 1: sure that all the drivers are educated and make sure

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Speaker 1: that certainly insurance is placed one way or another.

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Speaker 2: Great, and just one more on my wish list. In

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Speaker 2: countries where they have a lot of gas powered scooters,

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Speaker 2: which is the direction we're going, they have real pollution

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Speaker 2: problems caused by them. Currently, I don't believe they're required

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Speaker 2: to be emissions tested. Would you like to see them

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Speaker 2: as they become more and more a part of life

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Speaker 2: and doing a good thing, taking bulk off the roads

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Speaker 2: and form of cars. You can fit four scooters where

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Speaker 2: a car in the space of car would take up.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot more of them. Do

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Speaker 2: you think it'd be worth requiring emissions testing? I know

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Speaker 2: that that's not set up for that now, But so

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Speaker 2: what if we're going to have thirty percent of the

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Speaker 2: be those scooters belching out the little smoke. Shouldn't they

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Speaker 2: be emissions tested or maybe even be required to be electric.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, no, I think I mean, certainly,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to be conscious of the environmental

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Speaker 2: It's great to be here. This is my final fillian night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Brendan Crichton, Senator, third District for checking

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read you a letter related to this

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Speaker 2: I got some feedback, some positive, some actually no negative,

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Speaker 2: Gas powered motor scooters, new fast, heavy e bikes and

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Speaker 2: Gas powered motor scooters while many operators of these vehicles,

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Speaker 2: yesterday I watched a gas powered scooter speeding the wrong

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Speaker 2: That says it all we have. You know, we've all

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Speaker 2: This legal loophole must be closed and these these e

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Speaker 2: Some can travel forty or fifty miles an hour. Others

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Speaker 3: And I give an example of.

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Speaker 2: Sidewalks must remain safe places. A pedestrian in your community

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Speaker 2: this first solution doesn't really cost much. Community expectations. While

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Speaker 3: They have this.

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Speaker 2: Name for the micro mobility, which is a nice, friendly,

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Speaker 2: lack of clear guidance regarding operation of these vehicles encourages

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Speaker 2: unsafe operation. Silence is perceived as permission, so people don't

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Speaker 2: know the rules, maybe because there are new rules and

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Speaker 2: you cannot rely on folks to simply exercise good sense.

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Speaker 2: If that was the case, we wouldn't need stop signs

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Speaker 2: The community expectations need to be clearly articulated and widely distributed.

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Speaker 2: You could do that online. You could do that with

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Speaker 2: signage easily. Operators of motor scooters need to understand community

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Speaker 2: bicycles and electric stand up scooters must stay off the sidewalk. Fires, signage,

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Speaker 2: These pedestrians need to be updated to reflect the new

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Speaker 2: And some of your em may remember from your sit

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Speaker 2: that even intermittent negative reinforcement is very effective. Gas pirate scooters,

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Speaker 2: These are the solutions. Gas Powered scooters, stand up scooters,

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Speaker 2: and stand up scooters must be ensured. Delivery scooters must

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Speaker 2: Are you down with this? Again? In your town you

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about scooting a big

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Speaker 2: that's allowed. Do you want that to be allowed here?

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Speaker 2: I figure what it's called, like filtering or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It you know, it feels like it feels like Bombay

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Speaker 3: Sigone. Now, let's see. Obsolete rules of the.

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Speaker 2: Road and lack of clarity regarding community expectations have created

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Speaker 2: Every day that dangerous practices are tolerated, they become normalized

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Speaker 2: Cycling activists have expressed growing concerns over the fact that

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Speaker 2: The bottom line, motor scooters and motorcycles need to stay

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Speaker 2: unregulated rush to weird two wheeled powered vehicles, and this

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts is a state that demonstrably cares about public safety.

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Speaker 2: It's imperative that the community expectations are made clear and

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Speaker 2: Prather Jay for Dan tonight, my last night. Dan should

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Speaker 2: be in tomorrow night. So if you'd like to talk

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Speaker 2: to me, you got to do it tonight six one seven,

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Speaker 4: Hi, Karen, Hi, Bradley. I just want to chime in

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Speaker 2: I have thought perhaps that if a cyclist does not

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Speaker 2: But without those factors, everything else being legal. For the

436
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Speaker 2: operator of a motor vehicle, it's really tough out there

437
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: to watch out when you're driving, for bikes in the

438
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Speaker 2: bike lanes, for pedestrians crossing the grosswalk, for other for

439
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: the motor scooters blowing the lights. There's so much going on.

440
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: It's really hard to pay attention to all things that

441
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: you need to do. And for a bicyclist to be

442
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: in complete dark clothing in the dark is it's unfair

443
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: to motorists. So I again, that should be kind of

444
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: disqualifying as far as making an insurance claim. If you

445
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: can't even do your part to be visible, then it

446
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: should be on you, the bike, the bicycle operator.

447
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: And I've got a bike. I've got a bike bike

448
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: path right behind my house. And then they took the

449
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: street and widened it so that there would be more

450
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Speaker 4: room for more bikes.

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Speaker 5: You know, mind that.

452
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Bikes are great.

453
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Speaker 1: I love it.

454
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: I love bikes.

455
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: I love bicycle community bicycle advocates.

456
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Speaker 3: But there you go.

457
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: You gotta follow some rules because there are a lot

458
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: of people doing a lot of things all the time

459
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: and it's difficult. You need to do what you can.

460
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: You got to do your prime. Thank you, Karen, I

461
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: appreciate that. And now we go to Bill and framing him.

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Speaker 5: Hi, good evening. Yeah, there aren't some regulations about e

463
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: bikes back in twenty fifteen, this actually began. Your Department

464
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: of Transportation does have classifications. A Class one is an

465
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Speaker 5: e bike that you need to pedal and to make

466
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Speaker 5: the electric work, so it's called a pedal EC and

467
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 5: it's capped at twenty one miles per hour. Fair enough,

468
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 5: and then yep, Class two is the same thing, you

469
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: don't need to be pedaling, but does have pedals, but

470
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: you can use a throttle to make it work. And

471
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 5: then put the.

472
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: Speed limit on that one.

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00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 5: Same thing, okay, capped. And then the Class three is

474
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: the same as a Class one where you're going to

475
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Speaker 5: be pedaling, but it's capped at twenty eight and that

476
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Speaker 5: By twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, we started seeing that little

477
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: uspeed drive appear on the side of these motors, and

478
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: you could get one of those little drives, kind of

479
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 5: like when you have a mouse attached to your computer

480
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 5: and you just pop it into the US speed thing

481
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 5: and it could change that limit. You'd buy what was

482
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: a legal bike, and all of a sudden, the speed

483
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 5: the limiting factor there, the governor was opened up and

484
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 5: you could do forty fifty miles an hour. And that's

485
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: the beginning of the trouble here. When we heard about

486
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: Simon Cowell was the guy that had an e bike accident.

487
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: It was actually an electric motorcycle exactly as you were

488
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: talking about a little while ago, and it had a

489
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 5: throttle and he was not prepared. He didn't have a

490
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: helmet on and hit that throttle and the thing took

491
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: off and bucked and he fell off just like it

492
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 5: would be off of a bucking Bronco. And the electric

493
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: motorcycle is anything that's twenty eight miles an hour on up.

494
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: But you know, there's pretty much no police department out

495
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 5: there coming out and saying we're going to go stop

496
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 5: these bikes. When they stop them, they're not riding twenty

497
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: eight or more miles an hour. They're stopped, so they

498
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: have no way to easily track this and go after

499
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: and it's just a shame that all across the country

500
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: that this has just gotten out of control, and you

501
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: go online to buy them, there's no dealership the way

502
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: when you buy a car, you have to have a

503
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Speaker 5: dealer to go. Do you know we're not finding there are.

504
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Dealers for these. Actually in my town there there is

505
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Speaker 3: a dealer.

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00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: Well, there are a lot of bike shops now doing

507
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: it because otherwise they will be out of business. Right

508
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: And the reason I got out of the business of

509
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: running trade shows and consumer events for e bike folks

510
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: were just so many of the parents are coming in

511
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: and saying, well, Okay, my five year old wants to

512
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 5: ride one, and we were saying that nobody under sixteen.

513
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: That's the dot minimum age. It's a motorized vehicle. And

514
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: parents kept saying, we want the kids, we want the

515
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: kids to do this, And it just got to be

516
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: the point that we were disappointing all these customers and

517
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: it's like, we can't make an event like this work

518
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: without getting into trouble.

519
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you a couple of questions.

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00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: First, those laws, or they weren't laws, they were classifications,

521
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: were those were.

522
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: Those federally justifications? Were they federally classified?

523
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a US comment transportation.

524
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: So you didn't mention the limitations on the various classes.

525
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: What can a class one do? What can a class

526
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: two or three?

527
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Do?

528
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: And what are the limitations on the upper classes. Also,

529
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: they're probably well, they're a little bit obsolete because probably

530
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: when they were written they didn't understand the level and

531
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: speed and the weight of.

532
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: What e bikes have become.

533
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Folks, if you haven't seen when you see one of these,

534
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna your jaw will drop.

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00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 6: Oh.

536
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

537
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: You go out in Vegas this week is a consumer

538
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: electronics show and there are about four dozen companies showing

539
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: e bikes and they're proud to show off how fast

540
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: they go, how many miles they can go, and those

541
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: things can take off and you know they are motorcycles.

542
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and they ridiculously have pedals tacked onto some of

543
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: those upper high end ones.

544
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: Right.

545
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: They weighs so much and they go so fast. Bill,

546
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: thanks a lot, appreciate that call as always.

547
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Speaker 1: Sure.

548
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Next up, it's filling Roslindale on WBZ News Radio

549
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: ten thirty.

550
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Speaker 3: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio

551
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: Radley for Dan.

552
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: One more night, we go to fill in Roslindale Hill

553
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: on the program.

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Speaker 6: Tell me, Bar, I'm so glad you're bringing this subject up,

555
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 6: but I mean, it's a wild while west out there.

556
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: They not only do they ride the bike lane, they

557
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: ride the sidewalks the wrong way and they stick up

558
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 6: behind you. We're talking pedal bikes, e bikes, tricycles, whatever.

559
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 6: They suck a game to them, see how close they

560
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 6: can come without injuring you. Years ago, it was a

561
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 6: big shot in city Hall in Boston. Think he was

562
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: in the loan. He got hit by it by a

563
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 6: ninja cyclist with a carrier service about twenty five years ago.

564
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 6: And I don't know what happened to them. They could

565
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 6: almost killed, I believe. But the point is that it's

566
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: not gonna stop. They don't. They know they can get

567
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 6: away with it in so many laws that they know

568
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 6: the police stick confusing the heck out of the They

569
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: should hire a special group of people that go out

570
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: there and do this stuff. And also maybe some kind

571
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 6: of measuring device like a little strip across the bike

572
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: path to see how many people actually use the bike

573
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 6: paths that costs us a lot of money, in a

574
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 6: lot of lives, in a lot of what you mentioned.

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00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 6: I'm so glad they brought it up. Insurance. There's no identifications,

576
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 6: and they just laugh at you. They just want and

577
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 6: keep on going.

578
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: They don't they don't just laugh. They make obscene gestures,

579
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: multiple obscene gestures. Let me tell you the most recent one.

580
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: I didn't even bring this up. I was walking down

581
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: Huntington AF and Brigham Circle and there's a gas powered

582
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: delivery scooter going down the sidewalk towards me.

583
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: Right hold on, there's more.

584
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: Then went into the crosswalk and then turned left to

585
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: go into traffic the wrong way, and he saw that

586
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: I was.

587
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: He saw that I was photograph.

588
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Him, a photographic videotape him, and he made an obscene gesture,

589
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, this is and this is

590
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: a good time to say this. I'm talking to the

591
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: cities and towns. Well, in this case in Massachusetts, you

592
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: got to get you got to get the will to

593
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: put some rules together to let everybody know what the

594
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: rules are. And you have to enforce the rules. For

595
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: those that say we can enforce them, yeah you can.

596
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: You have a duty to protect the public safety of

597
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: your citizens, and you do a lot of other stuff

598
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: to ensure public safety. It's hypocritical of you not to

599
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: do this. And you have to stop worrying about offending

600
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: someone by pulling them over for this, for these infractions,

601
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: you got to do it for the public safety.

602
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: You have to hire more police. It's not the police's fault.

603
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: Towns tell the police what to do.

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00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, and the town has to say,

605
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: you know what, we need to figure out a way

606
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: to make this public safety hazard to reduce it. And

607
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: you have to if you have to hire more police,

608
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: you got to suck it up and do it.

609
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: And you want to know how to ford more police.

610
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Automated traffic enforcement that will generate the money to hire

611
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: more police, and you get out there and do some

612
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: of this enforcement. I know that a lot of people

613
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: don't want automatic and automatic traffic enforcement. You don't need

614
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: it everywhere. You could have it at busy intersection, you could.

615
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: You could generate enough income to hire enough law enforcement

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00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: to do to enforce laws regarding scooters and e bikes,

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Speaker 2: et cetera.

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Speaker 6: We pay top dollar to drive our cas to and

619
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Speaker 6: from wherever you're gonna go. In a fight to get

620
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 6: his Paki squad. And these people drive if they are

621
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 6: on with the bike away which is inches away from

622
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: the rail of the side pocket cars vehicle. They don't

623
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 6: have a hun they don't have a whistle, they don't

624
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 6: have anything, no lights, they don't have any helmets. If

625
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 6: they get hurt, we're gonna be picking up a chap

626
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 6: for these guys. I mean, it's just it's monstrous, it's crazy,

627
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: and no one cares about it. Let you brought it up,

628
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 6: but just literally you brought very good points and I'm

629
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 6: with you, but it's just we're just talking in to

630
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 6: the wind.

631
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Speaker 2: I know, that's a good point. There you go, Well,

632
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: we're not totally talking into the wind anymore. Because lawmakers,

633
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: as I understand it from talking to Brendan Crichton, Senator

634
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: from the third District tonight, that they're starting he's starting

635
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: to work to do a study to put and then

636
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: that would justify hopefully some legislation, and according to the Senator,

637
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: the governor is on board.

638
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: I hope the governor here's.

639
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 2: This at least part of the juicy part of this hour,

640
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: because I think I have put together some measures that

641
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: need to be taken and in a way to do

642
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: it actually, and.

643
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: I know there's going to be pushed back, but for

644
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: the greater good.

645
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't want to get hit and hurt and

646
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: have a hit broken, or lose an eye because I

647
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: get hit by some scooter going the wrong way, or

648
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, in a crosswalk, or knee byke blasting through

649
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: a light when I'm crossing the street. Six one, seven, two, five,

650
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Got gottai for one more call this hour

651
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: if if you'd like, I'd love to have you.

652
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: Coming up at nine o'clock. We have annually.

653
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: I needed to its spelled in an interesting way. I

654
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: had to check the pronunciation A Julie. There you go,

655
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: Angelie Junen, who is a Globe.

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Speaker 3: Writer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about these seven new laws in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: One of them the cannabis cafes. So be thinking about that.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to head out to the cannabis cafe?

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Speaker 2: Are you glad they're going to be Canaba cannabis cafes?

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Speaker 2: I stuttered there? Do you want one on in your neighborhood?

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Speaker 2: Do you want one on your block? I myself would

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Speaker 2: like to bring up the possibility of banning cannabis, smoking

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Speaker 2: in public. I have no problem with weed or cannabis.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad there are cannabis shops, and I'm glad the

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Speaker 2: state's making money off it. By the way, if you

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Speaker 2: get your medical card, you don't have to pay the tax,

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Speaker 2: and the tax is twenty percent. It'd probably be better

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Speaker 2: if more people use cannabis and fewer people drank.

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Speaker 3: I get all that, but.

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Speaker 2: Public drinking is not allowed, and that doesn't even smell bad.

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Speaker 3: I would I would.

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Speaker 2: Think that public consumption of smokeables, especially in areas you see,

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Speaker 2: smoking's banned in many areas. Why is cannabis not banned?

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Speaker 2: It's if somebody's drinking a beer covertly. It doesn't. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't bother my world. It doesn't interfere with my freedom.

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Speaker 2: You have, you have, We all have freedoms. But there

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Speaker 2: I think the word is prima fashion freedoms. I hope

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Speaker 2: I got it right.

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Speaker 3: I used to know. On the face of it, so

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Speaker 3: you can. You're free to move your hand wherever you.

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Speaker 2: Want until it hits someone's face. Well, you're free to

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Speaker 2: enjoy your cannabis until it stinks up my life, until

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Speaker 2: it affects me in a negative way. What if I'm

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Speaker 2: what if I have a family, little kids and wheeling,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, I got a three year old

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Speaker 2: in a five year old and somebody's smoking a big

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Speaker 2: giant joint on the corner, stinking up the stinking up

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Speaker 2: the corner.

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Speaker 3: Should I have to put up with that? No? I

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Speaker 3: should not.

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Speaker 2: That is offensive, That's an intrusion. So I would while

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Speaker 2: we're talking about cannabis, if you want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: weigh in on that. I know that I don't want

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Speaker 2: endless rules, but maybe let's put these new rules into effect.

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Speaker 2: We can get rid of some old rules. Let's just

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Speaker 2: update our new law our laws here six one, seven,

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Speaker 2: two five four. It's night Side with Dan Ray Bradley

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Speaker 2: for Dan, and Dan's going to be back in tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: If you want to talk to me, you gotta do

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Speaker 2: it within the next three hours tonight WBZ