1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: It was a great day for hockey at PPG. Let's 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: talk out of Tommy Hockey. Tom, are these Penguins for real? 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: To torch Vegas when you're playing back to back and 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: they aren't? 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: That was incredible? It is incredible. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: I don't think they're for real from the standpoint of 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 3: they can you know, win three rounds and get to 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: the Stanley Cup Final. No, but I think that they're 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: for real, that they're gonna hold onto this playoff spot 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: in Sid's absence over this month. He'll come back. That'll 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: be a nice jolt and they could win a round. 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: They could get to the second round. 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's as far as I'd go with any degree 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: of confidence that they'll make it and win. Around that said, 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: it's a very busy march. A lot of tougher games 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: are coming up. It's going to be a problem without said, 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: even if it's not been so far. But the first 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: three games without them went very well. The dropped point 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: at the Garden notwithstanding, Shiloh's got a shut out and 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: was the unsung hero in that game because Vegas dominated 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: for the first eight or ten minutes and Shilloffs really 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: stood tall. 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: He's been really sharp lately and all year long, I've 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: kind of been going back and forth as far as 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you put Skinner out there and lean 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: on him Moore as being that number one goalie, and 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: they've just been playing it perfectly with bouncing back and 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: forth when it was Jarry and Chiloffs and now it's 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: Skinner and Sheiloffs and going with the true tandem is 30 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: working greatly, and there's no doubt he's the hot one 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: right now. 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: He's on fire. 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I like it a lot better with with Skinner and 34 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Shilloffs than me to well, Jarry and anybody. It's I 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: mean Shilloffs. You're right, he stepped up with Skinner when 36 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: he's played has done well. I thought he you know, 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: wasn't at fault for losing that game at the Garden. 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Although they're continue with struggles in shootoffs is just maddening. 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Skinner, I mean let in one goal and 40 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: they just can't score it all on the shootout. 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: The first goal to the first shot, Vinnie Trochik of 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: course puts it in. So you're starting from behind and 43 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: you have your woes already. 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: But the shootout on Saturday was all about the shooters, 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: don't you agree, they. 46 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Couldn't get a shot off, no question. Did you see 47 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: what Trochick's kid said. No, Trozik told his family that, 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, he might get traded. 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: He's got to get traded. 50 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think either to Minnesota or Denver, although he 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: has a bunch of Western teams as no trade because 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go too far west. Maybe that 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: would kind of Denver because don't forget, he signed for 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: a few more years, so you know, it's not like 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: a rental type thing strictly speaking. But he told his 56 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: kids he might get traded, and his seven year old 57 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: son said, well, I'm staying. 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: I have a team here. I didn't get traded. He's 59 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: got a good point. Yeah, no, no, no question. I 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: love watching China Cooff. 61 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: He's like Elektritchka, a Russian bullet train, and that was 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: a nickname for guy back in the CCCP Dynastay's helmet balderis, 63 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: and it seems to fit Chinacough. He just keeps going. 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: He's like Carlo mof and he just has buzz. And 65 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: we always say that Malkin's making Chinnakoff. I find myself 66 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: wondering Chinnikov's making. 67 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: Malkin Yeah, I think it's going both ways there, that 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: that's a two way street in Chinnikov, now that he's 69 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: gotten confidence and is starting to roll. As far as 70 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: that's concerned, the sky really is the limit. I saw 71 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: Boucie tweet out during the game on Sunday. He tweeted 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago in twenty twenty four, thirty 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: goals for Iegor Chinnikov coming next year, and he quote 74 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: tweeted that and said, just a year off and with 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: the wrong team. So he has always shown kind of 76 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: these flashes that he can reach these heights, but now 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: it looks like he's actually going to realize that potential. 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: And boys, that an unbelievable thing for the Penguins. They 79 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: have a potential star here out of nowhere. 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to backtrack a bit, Yeah, Trocheck signed through 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nine h average annual value of five 82 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: point six. 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: That's affordable. 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: If if he weren't thirty two, I'd say the Penguin 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: should take a run at. 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: Him if they were just a little bit closer to 87 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: winning those three rounds and getting to the Cup finals. 88 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Player, I you know, to be honest, I'm kind of 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: still tempted. 90 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: The timing's just never been right with him though, right 91 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: like when he went to free agency and the Rangers, 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: it kind of wasn't right to bring him in now 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: and now it's just you're kind of a year or 94 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: two ahead of schedule before you bring in the guy 95 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: like Trocheck. 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: Do you ever see Trocheck's Rangers headshot? 97 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: No, it looks like a mug shot from the New 98 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: York City Police Department when they wiv it up mafia 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: guys in the seventies. It's just go online. You gotta 100 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: check that out. Kendall got rested and he won great 101 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: at MSG Saturday. But now, but yesterday he was in 102 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: Fuego here, there and everywhere, and I got a feeling 103 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a real good second second. Halpened final 104 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: third of the season from number eighty one. 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: It actually was really lucky for the Penguins to kind 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: of hit on Ben Kendall and get like the lightning 107 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: in the bottle effect of it also being an Olympic year, 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: of that that's the year that you get. 109 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: The oph for GINO two. 110 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Russia should have been there, but 111 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: for the Penguin's sake, it's better. Gino got the rest. 112 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: But Gino's Gino. You know, he's almost forty years old. 113 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm talking about you have an eighteen year old real 114 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: phenom honestly, with how he's going in the NHL. If 115 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't for Schaefer being one of the most incredible 116 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: rookies I've seen in recent memory, that'd be a ton 117 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: more buzz nationally about Ben Kendall being potentially the rookie 118 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: of the year. So to have an Olympic year and 119 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: give him that two and a half week reset that 120 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: that's monumental. 121 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: For the Penguins. He's gonna help. You said, you can't 122 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: put the pressure to replace it on him. He's gonna 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: do it just organically. Well, we're gonna talk about that 124 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: in a bit. 125 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: But he's got to move up between we're Kel and 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Russ because we're Kel. 127 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Ain't no center knew. I knew. 128 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: Ben really is arriving more and more every day because 129 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, I don't know why, but very 130 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: few of the Penguins stayed in the locker room to 131 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: address the media, like Rusty and him were the primary targets, 132 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: and Kendall was like a pro He just was you know, 133 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: not not going overboard like carl does like with the 134 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: game show hosting, but he was. He was very good 135 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: and and yeah, just and by the way, I've not 136 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: given enough at Wes Clark, the Penguins head scout. He 137 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: was the guy who, by all accounts, made the call 138 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: on Kindle with eleventh pick, and a lot of people 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: you recall Tom said that was a reach at the time, 140 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: but it's proven to be anything. But with the Penguins, 141 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: success so much revolves around special teams. Two for four 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: on the power play yesterday and another goal I think 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: it was Chinnikov's came just after a power play two 144 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: for two on the PK, and both of those units 145 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: look the part, not just succeeding, but even when the 146 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: power play doesn't score, generating a ton of momentum, and 147 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: like I said, they scored a goal from that momentum 148 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: just after a power play yesterday. The movement on and 149 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: off the puck with the power play is just textbook. 150 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: And Eric Carlson is the technician we hoped he would 151 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: be with the pp when they got him a couple 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of years back. In fact, he might be the Penguins 153 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: MVP this year if it's not sid because he's been 154 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: a catalyst on the Power Play, a catalyst on the PK, 155 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: a catalyst five one five, and he is by far 156 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: their best three on three player. He's the Diamond and 157 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: Apollo crap in that regard. He was unbelievable against Vegas 158 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: two on Sunday. I mean, he was just driving the 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: bus to the entire game. You're right about that call 160 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: about him potentially being the team MVP, and with Syd 161 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: being out for this month now, if Carlson can keep 162 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: up that level of play like he had on Sunday 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: in Vegas and just absolutely carry both drive both special 164 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: teams units, why not just give him the team MVP 165 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: for keeping them afloat like this, We're. 166 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Gonna talk about Gino in his futuon just a minute. 167 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Bozo the Columns tweeted how bad he felt that Cutch 168 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: still wants to play, but nobody wants him, and then 169 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: some people started drawing parallels between Geno and Cutch. Here's 170 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: the difference. Gino is over point per game, Cutch for 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: one oh five ninety. 172 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: X Tomorrow nights. 173 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: The great numbers the Penguins are posting like, here's another 174 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Ben Kindless plus twelve since January twenty second, a month 175 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: back that ranks first in the NHL ranking tied for second, 176 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: or Eric Carlson and Anthony Manta. 177 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: At plus eleven. 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: But if you want a bad number, the Penguins are 179 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: currently tied with the New York Islanders for second place 180 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: in the metro. The Penguins are four and thirteen in 181 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: games decided after sixty minutes, and the Islanders are twelve 182 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: and five in games decided after sixty minutes. If I'm 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: the Penguins at the deadline, we'll talk a lot about 184 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: that later, but I would go get a shootout specialist. 185 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's any available because most of the 186 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: top guys in the shootout tend to be stars for 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: good teams and therefore unavailable. But maybe they could talk 188 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Eric Christensen into coming out of retirement. And they're twentieth 189 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: in face off winning percentage and they need a guy 190 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: who can do better than that, especially with sit out. 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, with sit out for whatever three more weeks, 192 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: hopefully no longer, you need to fill that gap just 193 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: for that time. And that's why I would trade before 194 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: between now and the deadline Friday for a third line center. 195 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: One big topic is of Genny Malka and he wants 196 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: to play another year. He kind of had the boo 197 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: boo face in New York after the lock after the 198 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: game on Saturday in the locker room, because he said 199 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: he and the Penguins were talking, but now maybe they are. 200 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: Tom, would you bring Geno back for one more year. 201 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: For one more year at the right price and the 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: caveaty and he has to play wing. There's no part 203 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: of this that he moves back to center, DREI would 204 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: want to. I don't think you mean to move back 205 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: to center at this point. I don't think so either, 206 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: So I don't think that's gonna be hard. I would 207 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: do it. I would do it. 208 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: I think he's got a second wind wing. He can 209 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: concentrate more on offense, his mistakes in the neutral zone 210 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: don't explode like hand grenades. Yeah, i'd bring him back 211 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: at the right price, Like I don't know he's making 212 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: six point one now. 213 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: I think i'd bring him back for. 214 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Like like four or five million, because because even if 215 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: you pay that and he goes splat, it's not that 216 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: big of a deal, especially given that you know they're 217 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna have like about fifty million to spend under the cap. 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: That said, they have a lot of free agents to 219 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: re sign or quite possibly let go, like Anthony MANTHEWOD 220 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: like to keep him. He gonna get too much. He's 221 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: a product of being here, which he should consider but won't. 222 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: And I don't blame him. He's at the age where 223 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: you got to take the best offer, period. But so yeah, 224 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: I'd bring Geno back provided he stays at left wing. 225 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: And again, it'd have no problem because the wing he 226 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: doesn't block Kindle except on the power play. 227 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: One year deal I heard he might want to. 228 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: You can't give him ten year beyond sid And again, 229 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: he's making six mil right now. I'd give him four 230 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: or maybe five mil. And here's a big caveat that 231 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: it sounds like he doesn't like. I would not decide 232 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: till season's end, because who knows what could happen between 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: now and the What if he blows up his knee, 234 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: what if he does go splat in the rest of 235 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: this year and not next. 236 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: I completely agree with that. That's why I had no 237 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: problem with how the Penguins are kind of operating right now. 238 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: When you hear this report that they met and then 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: they were like, we're not going to do a deal 240 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: right now. 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: And might meet today, might be whatever. Yeah, And maybe 242 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: that's the same message that Dubis is going to extend 243 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: to Malkin face to face and say, you know, I'm 244 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: interested now, but it's just not gonna happen now. 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to wait until the end of the season. 246 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: That's the appropriate path that they should go forward when 247 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: it comes to this. It should wait until the season's over. 248 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, Kyle should not talk to Malkin 249 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: face to face. 250 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: Uh. Gino has a great agent, JP Barry. 251 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: He should let JP deal with Kyle and not get 252 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: personally involved because agents don't take anything said personally. It's 253 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: all business. Kyle can be very pragmatic, which I think 254 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: is a good quality, but maybe not with Gino in 255 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: this situation, because Kyle could say something that Gino would 256 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: take exception to and then carry forward like it is. 257 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: So I think them talking face to face ain't a 258 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: good idea. 259 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: Kyle's is going to be very logical about it, I think, 260 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: is what you're saying. He's going to present absolute logic 261 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to what he's thinking, and that logic 262 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: can really tick off people. 263 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: Especially if Kyle's point plank, We don't know. We want 264 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: to see the rest of the season. That might because 265 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Gino clearly wants to decide ance. 266 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: And I'll be blunt. 267 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: If Kyle says, wait till the end of the year 268 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: and Gino gets the boo boo face and his production 269 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: declines the rest of the year, then he's made the decision. 270 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's a failed test. As far as you 271 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: know is concerned. I don't think that would happen. I mean, 272 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: he's just been playing so great this year. I think 273 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: he finishes the year out in that way. But you 274 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: can't have it done now. I want to move past 275 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: this too. It kind of sucks that there's a little 276 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: bit of turbulence right now happening in the middle of the. 277 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Season, but it's not any more than that because of 278 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the face to face meeting, which I am Kyle, if 279 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: you're listening, I'm advising against that. 280 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: What if they're both listening right now during the. 281 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Meeting, Gino barely speaks English, he doesn't what I'm saying. 282 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: And my disclaimer is I still might not bring him back. 283 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean I probably would, but you got to turn 284 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: the page at some point. This is a rebuilding team. 285 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: Despite their place in the standings. Currently, they're not a 286 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: legitimate Stanley Cup contender. Gino is thirty nine, and you 287 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: can't turn your dressing room into a museum. 288 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: You know. Sid's different. Sid. 289 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: Sid still a top five player in the league, top 290 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: five forward, rather Geno's not. I mean, Jena is a 291 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: point per game guy, and that's real good, but he's 292 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: not Sid. 293 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: And with him playing when you're not blocking Kindle at 294 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: second line center, but you are blocking him on that 295 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: first power play unit, like you said, and he's probably 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: the best power play Union player right now. That's mus 297 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean, all muses great decisions. I can't believe Manth 298 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: is out there not Kindle play. And then again, Mantha 299 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: got that deflective goal and he's really deflective goal at 300 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: MSG Saturday, and he's he's done a great job on 301 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: the power play. So while I do find flaw with that, 302 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: it's very minor. You get the people out there saying 303 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: you gotta bring him back Gino, and I get it. 304 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: Your fans, you're not looking at the big picture. You're 305 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: like the Steelers, Kyle Dubas is looking at the big picture. 306 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: And here's an example. 307 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Steven Stamko scored forty goals in his last year with 308 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay a couple of years back, obvious club legend, 309 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty five career goals with Tampa two Cups. 310 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: But Tampa let him go because he was thirty three 311 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: and it was time to turn the page. And and 312 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Tampa immediately brought in Jake Gensl instead. Jake was twenty 313 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: nine when he signed that deal with the Lightning. Forty 314 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: one goals his first year. That was last year with Tampa, 315 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: twenty six so far this year, and Tampa is a juggernaut, 316 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: so boom, you're not just letting Geno go and not 317 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: bringing nobody else in it. You look, you look at 318 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: what Tampa did, and they were in a position with 319 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: the no state income tax and where their team was 320 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: at to be very attractive to Jake. But still, so 321 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I would do it. I would bring Geno back next year, 322 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: but one hundred percent on my terms, and maybe I 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: won't anyway, and maybe Dupis won't want to anyboy. Somebody 324 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter said that by saying what Gino did after 325 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: the game at the Garden Saturday, that Gino put a 326 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: gun to Dupas's head. That's absolutely laughable. Gino got no bullets. 327 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: He's thirty nine years old and he's doing good, but 328 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: he ain't see it and he's far from irreplaceable. And 329 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to build a young team a legitimate Steelly 330 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: Cup contender. 331 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Can you really do that if you keep keeping old 332 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: guys around? No, you can't. 333 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: And that notion that people have where well, Gino's having 334 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: such a good year, you're gonna let him walk and 335 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna miss that production. Then from the 336 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: lineup next year, they're gonna get someone younger who can produce, 337 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: maybe even better than Gino has been producing this year. 338 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: We got so many draft picks, so much cap space 339 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: coming up. Kyle's going whale hunting. He's going to It's 340 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: not this dreadline, but he's gonna have to do that soon. 341 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Give you an example that I hate to give and 342 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: it breaks my heart to Last year Liverpool Football Club 343 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: won the Premier League and Mo Sala, who's one of 344 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: my favorite athletes ever and has been a legend during 345 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: his almost a decade with the club, had a great 346 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: first two thirds of the season and faded down the stretch, 347 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: but we won the league. Yeah, you had to bring 348 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: him back. You had to bring him back. There was 349 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: no way to win the league and not bring back Mosala. 350 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: And he has four goals this season. You can keep 351 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: a guy a year too long, and you know he's 352 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: gonna probably get sold to Saudi for huge money for 353 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: him and for the club at the end of the year. 354 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: But it won't end good because I'll be honest, I 355 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: love Muhammad, but he's not the kind of guy to 356 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: let things end good. 357 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: But that's my point, you know. 358 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: And the difference between Mo and Gino is Gino is 359 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: actually performing better this year than Mo. But we didn't 360 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: just win the Stanley Cup, right, we're trying to rebuild 361 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: Liverpool just won the league. So again, I hope things 362 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: work out. Everyone's satisfact with Gino. But nobody should be 363 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: mad at Kyle if the Penguins walk away. But people 364 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: will be insanely mad right in the immediacy. And I 365 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: wonder about the new owners if they want that to 366 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: happen on their watch. Just like when FSG came in, 367 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: they re upped Gino and Letang. Then when the club's 368 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: intention was to walk away from one or both of. 369 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Them in the immediacy, fans are going to lose their 370 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: mind if that is the decision that they make. But 371 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: then you know, fast forward to this time next year, Mark, 372 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: maybe they're in the same exact spot that they're in 373 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: right now without Gino and trending even more in a 374 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: youthful direction. 375 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: And then you wonder about Sid's reaction. I mean, I see, 376 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 377 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: Like, Sid's not going to be happy about it, for sure, 378 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: He's not gonna like it if it's such a profession. 379 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: If Gino don't get another year. 380 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me tell you, Tom, and I'm not 381 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: prepared to go into this. H I used to be 382 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent CONVINCEDID would finish his career. Here I'm 383 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: still at eighty. I'm still at eighty, but I'm no 384 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: longer at ninety nine. No, you know what, I'm at 385 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: eighty seven percent. That'd be encouraging for Sid to stay 386 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: and again with him, nobody should have hard feelings. But 387 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: but there there, I do kind of wonder. Now, all right, 388 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: up next, what are we gonna talk about up next? 389 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: Nah? Something one oh five ninety X. Hey, we're in 390 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: your smart speakers. Sucking. Listen to the X everywhere you go. 391 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: Tell your smart speakers. 392 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Alexa play one oh five point nine. 393 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: The X on iHeartRadio. 394 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: Eight ten basketball is taking over the Steel City March 395 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: eleventh through fifteenth. 396 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six. Eight ten men's. 397 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: Basketball journeys in time Tonight Farewell Tour. I think it's 398 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: their third or fourth farewell tour. 399 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm a fan. 400 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Kine, the keyboard player. He's kind of an original. 401 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: He like split the difference in the Glory Days, replaced 402 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Greg Rawley at one point and stuck around. Jonathan Kaine 403 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: said that putting Bad Bunny on the Super Bowl halftime 404 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: show was based on greed quote unquote, hey, no shiz 405 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Sherlock and be even average price tickets for Journey Tonight 406 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: decent view kind of close like I got at least 407 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty bucks minimum. It sounds to me 408 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: like that could be based on greed. But hey, Jonathan Kane, 409 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: don't stop believing. Like the song says, Tom, we got 410 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: the NHL trade deadline this Friday. You know where I 411 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: really liked Jim Rothterifford. He didn't wait till the trade 412 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: dead line. If there was a trade he wanted to make. 413 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: He made it, you know, in advance. And that's good too, 414 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: because you know that way you're not in a bidding war. 415 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: You don't get gazumped at the death for somebody you. 416 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: Want exactly you can strike earlier. I thought that strategy 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: was really good too. It's not happening right now with 418 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: Kyle as this is now the week of the trade deadline, 419 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: and so. 420 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, Jim just did it, not out of any grand strategy. 421 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: He was just incredibly impatient. He's wanted to make the 422 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: team better now. I just want no, just want to 423 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: make a trade. So I don't know, he could go 424 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: watch James Junior's kid play goal. I don't know, but 425 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: but he got stuff done early. And uh do you 426 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: expect the pen was to make a big trade? And 427 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: should they? Uh? 428 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: The only big trade we're not saying Jason Robinson right, 429 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: we're not going. 430 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: On trade him when they're a cup contendent that the 431 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: cap implications may be down the line to retain him. 432 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: I don't think this would be qualified as a big trade. 433 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: But they should move Skinner if they can for a 434 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: third line center and bring up mersh Off. 435 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: He's ready to go. 436 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: Well, my needless reflects that they need a depth center, 437 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: like a third line guy, good on face offs, preferably 438 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: good on the shootout. But boy, that's asking a lot 439 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: to fill in. Would sit out now now, if you 440 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: trade Skinner for that, you trade a later draft pick 441 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: for that. 442 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: Either way is good for me. 443 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: A depth defenceman, preferably a right handed one, although Connor 444 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Clifton has done a fine job pressed into service. 445 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't want to get in a situation. 446 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Where Carl or Latang get hurt and then you got 447 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: to play both Clifton and if Jack, say and Ivany 448 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: comes back from his injury, he's skating now. And I 449 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: don't want to move Shade to the right side, even 450 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: though he can, because he's so good on the left side. Again, 451 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up better than a fourth or fifth 452 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: round pick for anything. We're talking about, maybe third, because 453 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: they have lots of picks. If you got the right guy, 454 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: and like you said, Tom, maybe Skinner for a center 455 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and you promote Morishov, that would be a bit of 456 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: a risk, but not much of one. 457 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: And I think very educated. 458 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: That's where I'm kind of getting a little greedy. Because 459 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to run Skinner out of town immediately. 460 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: He's been fine. 461 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: He's been fine, and he'll be fine for them down 462 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: the stretch if they choose to keep him past Friday. 463 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: But if they move him, I think Marishaw is ready 464 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: to go. And honestly, I don't have delusions of granted 465 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: that Marischov carries them to the Eastern Conference final, but 466 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: he might be their best bet to win that first 467 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: round in net to trade for tro. 468 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Check up since we talked about that earlier, you know, 469 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: but he's thirty two. I mean that doesn't I mean, boy, 470 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: I'd still like to though. 471 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: He would fit like the third line center need that 472 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: you're talking about right now without question. 473 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, and you could put him right now between. I 474 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: mean you could put you could move Kindle up, you 475 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: could put Trocheck there. Yeah, right exactly. I say Trocheck's 476 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: kid said, hey, Dad, I didn't get traded. I'm staying 477 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: here to play for my team. I say we trade 478 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: for Trocheck's kid. 479 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: Sounds like he's got some sandpaper. 480 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: It's about the same size as Connor Sherry was. And 481 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: here's why you got to get that center. Raquel struggles 482 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: at center he's getting killed on draws and he's just 483 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: not in the swing at that position. And I know 484 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: it's only been two games, but with the trade deadline Friday, 485 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: you can't experiment for very long. Rat's got a power 486 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: play goal yesterday, but five on five at center, he's 487 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: not in a groove. 488 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: He needs to play wing. 489 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't trade, I'd elevate Kindle to center, 490 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Raquel and rust unmove Lazotte between Manta and Brazil, which 491 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: would not be ideal. I mean, Kendall is setting up 492 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the Twin Towers. He's a big part of their success. 493 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: But I'd still move was off there if I had to. 494 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: And then a Charie Center's due were in Avery Hayes 495 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: or or I don't know. You put McGroarty on that line, 496 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: and you know, people say, well, that fourth line is 497 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: so great. You can't be married to a fourth line. 498 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Those guys come and go, they sit and play. Even 499 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: within the context of a season, the fourth line doesn't matter, 500 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: even when it matters. 501 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: If that makes sense, it does. 502 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: And just how you just lay that out, which is 503 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: something that I think they're probably gonna have to do, 504 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: it really thins out your center depth. If you don't 505 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: make that trade if you don't add to that room. 506 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: But you're so right about Raquel. I mean, you talked 507 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: last week to a couple of our guests and how 508 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: is this Roquel experiment gonna work? And everybody pretty much 509 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: agreed we'll know after this weekend. And I think we 510 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: pretty much know after this weekend. 511 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: He's fine. 512 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but he needs to play with 513 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: because he needs to get going too. He needs to 514 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: score goals. He's focusing on too much. He's thinking too much. 515 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: He's thinking too much in the neutral zone and thinking 516 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: about getting back, and he's forgetting to play offense. 517 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: He's just not involved right, and he needs to start 518 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: scoring goals. He's a slow goal scorer this year already. 519 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: Only eleven. 520 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: Needs to kick that into gear, and he just won't 521 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: do that as long as he's having to play center. 522 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I might also try to trade for a guy who 523 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: can score on the shootout, but that would mean then 524 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: benching another one of the fourth line guys. But I 525 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: think they've helped. I think they're very minimally responsible for 526 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: the Penguin success, like fourth lines always are at best. 527 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: People talk about that that that line. I forget their nickname. 528 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: The Islanders had that big third line, that's fourth line. 529 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: Fredy has slipped there because they played as many minutes 530 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: as the third line. 531 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really were the third line. Yeah, the lineup 532 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: card just had him fourth. 533 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was good pr it caught on, people 534 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: talked about it. But I'd like to get a guy 535 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: who's good on the shootout, a good face off guy. 536 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: But again, like I said earlier, all the guys high 537 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: up the list for conversion on the shootout are star 538 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: players who aren't available. So there's not a Christensen typeer, 539 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: a yoking and type, a specialist type of guy that's 540 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: out there. And Tom, I've been saying, and I stick 541 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: to this, even though things look real good for the 542 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Penguins right now, the failure in the shootout, if they 543 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, we will look back at that 544 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: costing them more than Sid's absence. Did you watch? 545 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: No, no question about it. And as far as that 546 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: guy is concerned, that shootout guy, is it possible that 547 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Chinakoff is that guy and they already have him. 548 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: I mean, he's seven for thirteen going into Saturday. I 549 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: know he looked terrible in that one, but oh he's great. 550 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, put it this way, he should go every hee 551 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: and lead off and go go every time. Yeah, that's 552 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: a good point. I would have him lead off. 553 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: And I still think when people talk about signing Gino, 554 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: I've thought about this. 555 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: I'm watching very closely. 556 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: I think china Koff has jump started Gino more than 557 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: vice versa. That's not the Discontino's role in chennikoff success. 558 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: And with that line, the whole is greater than the 559 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: sum of the parts, which is visited upon all three guys. 560 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: But I think the X factor there is Cheinakov. I 561 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: think so too here because Novak got going too. 562 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Yes, Novak got going when Cheinakoff got here and jumped 563 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: on that line. 564 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: Along those lines, we're talking about Malcolm coming back and 565 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: say he does, and he's on the second line as 566 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: a wing who centers that line next year, it would 567 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: have to be kindled between Malcolm and Chinakoff, right, or 568 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: else it's just Malcolm blocking kindle in kind of a 569 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: different way. 570 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: Unless you want to divide your scoring between three lines. 571 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: And the Novak line stays intact, and it's well, you 572 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: know what, I'm talking out of my backside and contradicting 573 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: because you can't be married to that line. 574 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: Either, No, and Tommy Novak is good, don't get me wrong, 575 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: but he's not a great playoff. 576 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Coaches like Selly was big on this, you know, if 577 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: coaches are big on two man combinations, the two man 578 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: combination there is Chinakoff and Malkin right exactly. 579 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: But I'm just curious to see if is that going 580 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: to be kindle slot next year? It would almost have 581 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: to be if they're on the second line. 582 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know where where Novak has surprised me? 583 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Do I want to give credit words due? He's done 584 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: far better in the defensive and neutral zones than I figured, 585 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: because that was always going to be a major job 586 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: playing with Gino on your wing, which you got a 587 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, police the areas where he 588 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough at center to do anymore. 589 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: It's just a year for the Penguins right now that 590 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: you couldn't duplicate again if you wanted to. Like, it's 591 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: almost like everything is going exactly right for players like 592 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: Novak and Manta and Brawsers, like they're all having just 593 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: these career year. 594 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: Blast Browsers had for the fifth goal when Kendall was 595 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: just kind of like floating in front of him. He 596 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: was like a wister. Just Kendall's goal though the first goal. 597 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: It might have been on the bench when he got back. 598 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: I'd have been like, major league boy, you really knocked 599 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the crap out of that one. 600 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I I I. 601 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: Kyle, if you're listening, don't meet face to face with Gino. 602 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: It can only go bad. 603 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: Although what if? 604 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: What if Dube was opened the conversation by saying, Gino, 605 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I've got some bad news. And Kyle's a 606 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: wrestling guy, he just might one O five to nine. 607 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: It's the Woody Show weekday mornings at six. 608 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: Of course, you think is. 609 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center. 610 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 5: This report is sponsored by Groundworks, your local experts for 611 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 5: a foundation and concrete repair. 612 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: It's going to be cloudy today. Look for a high 613 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: forty one, partly cloudy skies tonight, but turning mostly cloudy overnight, 614 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: dropping to thirty two, cloudy with perry terrain and warmer tomorrow. 615 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: Look for high fifty three. 616 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: Is your concrete cracking? Is your uneven walkway? Dangerous? Contact? 617 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 5: Round words? 618 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: The first ar of the program brought to us, as 619 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: always by our good friends at Shandorovich, Shndorovich and Fisherman Tom. 620 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: What do we got for today's trifecta? 621 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: For the trifecta, Mark, I've got three stats that tell 622 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: you that the Penguins are indeed a good hockey team. 623 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: Number Three, they're gold differential at plus thirty. That's third 624 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference, but that's also fifth in the 625 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: NHL overall. They're a top five team in the entire 626 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: league as far as gold different When you know what 627 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: Pierre says about gold differential hockeys, that is, ever since 628 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: hearing that on this show, I'm always looking for that. 629 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: Pierre has turned me on to that big time. As 630 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: far as regulation wins are concerned, they're tied for third 631 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: in the East in that category, fifth overall in the 632 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: league there, but regulation losses few it in the East 633 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: and third fewest in the entire league. You don't have 634 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: to go to the shootouts in the playoffs. You do 635 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: need him to get there. But if they get there, 636 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: they look pretty good. 637 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no question. 638 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean in five on five they're I mean, but 639 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: then again, the power playing PK they're just they're just 640 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: good at everything but face offs. 641 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: Three on three, overtime and shootouts. That's it. That's the 642 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: only things that they're bad at. But the number one 643 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: will be faceoffs in the playoffs. 644 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Yes. 645 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: The number one thing though, that is so impressive about 646 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: these Penguins and why they're so good is they have 647 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: six players right now that are at or pacing to 648 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: score twenty goals on the season, and they have four 649 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: more that are kind of possible to do that. I mean, 650 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: you're not going to get all ten of those guys 651 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: to get the twenty goals. But let's say you have 652 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: eight twenty goal scorers on your team. That's incredible depth scoring. 653 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: Teams with that kind of depth scoring with eight twenty 654 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: goal scorers, even seven, they're going to make the playoffs. 655 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So you got six on pace. Chinikov's only on 656 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: pace for nineteen. He go and get twenty. 657 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: I think with what he's doing, he'll expand his pace 658 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: or he'll speed up his pace a little bit. 659 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: So it's absolutely twenty just for the Penguins. Twenty for 660 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: the Penguins. 661 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he had like what three for Columbus 662 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: in his very limited ice time. 663 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: I'll get to this at length. 664 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: We have some but did you see the the monologue 665 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: with Connor's story from from the Gay Hockey Show. Uh, 666 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: he did rivalry and uh the US Olympians. Yeah, I 667 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: did see that part of it. 668 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: It was great one. It's fantastic. They they hit a home. 669 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: They're not putting a foot wrong either team. 670 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: In the wake of all this and everybody trying to 671 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: split them up, they just refused to split up. And 672 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: I saw SNL tweeted out a really cool picture of 673 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: all four of them together, the Hughes and Keller and 674 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: Hillary Knight with their gold medals on which is the 675 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: gold medal emoji. 676 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: It's been perfect. The teams have been flawless. So yeah, 677 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: I'll get to that in detail later. 678 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: But but I hope it puts a lot of the 679 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: bs to bed and we can just appreciate what what 680 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: well it might because now we've got a war to 681 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: distract us. Oh that's a very good point. Yes, here's 682 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: the lemma I'm dealing with, Tom. I want your opinion 683 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: on this. Sid's out. He's sitting in the press bat. 684 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: It's way way. 685 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 2: Way down the other end, away from everybody. 686 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: And the first game he sat, he sat with Jack Johnson, 687 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: who was in town. I think it's a Scott for 688 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Columbus and Kevin Hayes who was a scratch. 689 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: Right. 690 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: But but but last night he was sitting by himself 691 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: and he looked really lonely and sad because he's not playing. 692 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: I know he hates watching, like this is just killing him. 693 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Should I go talk to him or would I be 694 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: intruding or would I potentially annoy him? 695 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't think you would potentially 696 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: annoy him too much because it's you. He knows who 697 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 2: you are. You've a relationship there. I just see in 698 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: that context when he's so mad about not playing. 699 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. From your standpoint, I 700 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: want to go there. Maybe everybody should let him alone, 701 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: like you would be uncomfortable. I think going over there, like, 702 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't think you would benefit at all from doing that. 703 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: So I'm not doing it for any any benefit. I mean, 704 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: you want to have an enjoyable conversation to him. 705 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I've not talked to him since the Olympics because he's 706 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: not He did that that brief media thing he at practice, 707 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, when he got back, but I haven't seen 708 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: him at all since the Olympics. 709 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: You should like send him a diet coke or something like, 710 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: send him a drink down there. You think he drinks soda, 711 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: Now what do you think he's drinking in there? Water? 712 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Could be bourbon, given the fact that he's upset about 713 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: not playing. 714 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: But I just don't know what to do. Uh. 715 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing how well they've played without him, but 716 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: it's only three games and they did screw the pooch 717 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: by dropping the point at the Rangers. I never dreamed, Tom, 718 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: if you would have told me you're gonna get five 719 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: out of six points in the first three games back 720 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: from the Olympics and without Sid, I just said great. 721 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: I never would imagine you'd blow a two zero lead 722 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: to the freakin' dog crap Rangers and then blow out 723 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Vegas when when you're when you're a back to back 724 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: and they're not, They're waiting here in Pittsburgh for you 725 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: to get here, and you blow them out. 726 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: That's why I have kind of slight like a the 727 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: attitude when it comes to dropping that point at MSG 728 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: against the Rangers. 729 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: It sucked in the moment on Saturday. Yeah, but i'd 730 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: love six for six. I would have that point could 731 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: come in handy. But Sunday just makes you feel a 732 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: lot better about it. 733 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: Sunday just casey eh, whatever, you know, Yeah, six for 734 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 3: six would been great, but I'll take five for six. 735 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: I would have taken five for six, signed up for 736 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: that before the Devil's Game, so I'll certainly take it now. 737 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: And if it became, it had to be at the 738 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: Rangers hand that you dropped that point. Whatever Chha struckting 739 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: was really good in that game. These next two games 740 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: are big. You got at Boston tomorrow night. 741 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: You got a Buffalo visiting here on Thursday, and I'll 742 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: be at Pittsburgh Brewing for my monthly viewing party. We're 743 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: doing a home game because I thought the Boston game 744 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: was in the afternoon. I thought they had like some 745 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of holiday thingy going. Then it turns out it's 746 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. So that's cool. I mean, we're giving 747 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: away a whole bunch of USA stuff too, Tom, did 748 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: I have at that viewing party? Thursday, seven pm, Pittsburgh 749 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: Brewing Company. We're twenty eight creaton just off for twenty 750 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: eight big big screen TV there is, but but these 751 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: are two teams that are in the playoff hunts. Yeah, 752 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: and they're just is maybe even more so desperate for 753 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: points to the Penguins. 754 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: No question, Buffalo's on fire right now too. 755 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: It goes Boston Buffalo than Philly Boston back to back 756 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: at home, you get four out of eight. 757 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: You think you feel pretty good about that? Yeah, I 758 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: think that's your goal. 759 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because because they have what they have what a 760 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: nine point pushing on Washington right now? Yes, and they 761 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: have games in hand two correct, like three? Three games 762 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: in hand on Washington right now. I'm looking at it. Yeah, 763 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure Washington's that good now again, I'm 764 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: not sure the Penguins, I mean, Tom, I don't want 765 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: to the minute I think they're in I know they 766 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: won't be. This reminds me of the seventies when I 767 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: was a kid, when they would play good, but you 768 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't let yourself believe it. 769 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: It just didn't turn out good. Usually you don't want 770 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: to jinx it. You don't want that evil eye to 771 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: look at you and seeing that you feeling confident and 772 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: then here comes the six game losing streak. 773 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: That's what they said about d O Tom evil I 774 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: b side. You didn't hear it was awesome one oh 775 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: five ninety x