WEBVTT - Thom Brennaman -- 10/20/25 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.280 The twentieth. Great to have you with us here on 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:06.000 the Morning Show. And you know we've had Steve Raleigh 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.680 on a number of times, his wife Julie Raleigh on 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.000 a number of times, and today Julie is with us, 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.080 joined by Bob Finley, and we're going to get into 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.400 a story which has a pretty pressing, pretty pressing time 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:29.040 frame because tomorrow there is a zoning examiner overseeing a 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.360 hearing tomorrow, October the twenty first, at ten am that 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.479 has to do with a major issue and how it 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.760 could affect Maddie's house. So we'll get to that here 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.960 in just a second. I want to start with Julie Raleigh. Julie, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.239 you and your husband Steve lost your daughter Maddie to 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.200 suicide a number of years ago. You've opened Maddie's Health 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.840 to try and help those who are struggling with mental health, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.000 debating suicide, all these kinds of things. It has become 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.760 such an important part of the mount Air Airy and 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.160 to so many not only teens and youth, but also 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.080 others who are looking for a place to share experiences 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.000 things they're going through. But now all of a sudden 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.800 you're facing some kind of a challenge to that, Julie, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.040 talk about that for a minute. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.559 Please, yes, oh. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.640 Tom, thank you so much for having us on. Can 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.600 I give you a little history of pal Crosley Estate. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.720 It was in the sixties the Franciscan Sisters of the 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.640 Core transformed the campus into a beautiful setting of healing. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.720 They got the property from actually Poll Crosley and they 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.039 built a state of the heart at Citity Art Hospital 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.600 known as Providence. They also built a cancer treatment center, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.720 the first holistic health center which was actually Pinecroft, and 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.800 a daycare center for the employees that In two thousand, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.520 Mercy Health approached the sisters and they continued the vision 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.480 of healing and they changed Providence Hospital's name to Mercy 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.240 Health not Area, and we are on that campus. And 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:10.720 twenty eleven the Mercy Health and the Sisters entrusted the 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:15.360 pal Crosley Estate to the Cincinnati Preservation Association and they 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.799 gave it to them for a dollar to continue stewarding 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.959 and be benefiting the public, to continue the history of 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.799 the of the mansion. And now we're up against this 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.280 issue with the Preservation Association put it on the market 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.440 for two point four million dollars and Mattie's House. We 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.760 put competitive bids up to two million dollars and now 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:45.160 it is under contract with a couple that wants to 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.239 turn it into a boutique hotel, a spa. They want 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.079 to build ten cabins in the woods behind the beautiful 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.120 Serene Lakes that we take care of and is a 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.840 big part of our programming at Mattie's South. And they 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:04.359 are also want to build a restaurant with a rooftop bar, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.320 completely counterintuitive to what Glenwood Behavioral Health Hospital does and 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.600 what Maddie's House and the young adults that we serve, 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.440 and we have over eighteen hundred members that use our 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.480 free services, and this. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.640 If they rezone it and I'll get to Bob Finley 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.280 here in a second, help me Julie with us. If 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:27.200 indeed the rezoning passes, it would it would change the 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.800 way you can even get into Maddie's House. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:30.560 Is that correct? 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.960 Yes, they they're threatening to deny our access. We have 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.080 a shared eavement that takes us to Maddie's House right now, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.280 But if the purchase goes through and the zoning variance 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.960 goes through, that road would convert to the new couple. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.680 They would own it and preventing us from having access 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.640 to get to use our home, which, like I said, 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.360 over eighteen hundred young adults use their services every month, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:04.000 and we're saving lives, we're changing lives, and this this 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:08.920 would bring in temptation, disruption, and complete exclusion. There's something 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:14.360 that we are battling tomorrow morning at the Zoning Commission meeting. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.760 All right, Bob Finley is a neighbor who lives in 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.359 the Powell Crosley sun So I'm actually a hunting lodge there, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.320 and Bob walk walk us through this. For somebody who 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.080 knows nothing about this, you know a lot about it. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.839 Please share with us the impact that you believe that 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.679 this would make if indeed this purchase goes through. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.560 Good morning, Tom, thanks for having me on. You know, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.800 my wife and I we live directly across the street 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.719 from the Pinecroft mansion, you know, in the house that 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.479 he built for his son, you know, Maddie's houses, in 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.080 the house that he built for his daughter, and you know, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.240 we're really concerned about the impact that would have on 0:04:55.320 --> 0:05:00.919 the community and preserving the historical Pinecroft mansion. You know, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:10.160 the developers have are inexperienced, have no prior experience, rehabbing 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:17.080 or preserving historic properties, run a hospitality or event centers. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.320 But the one thing that we're really. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.200 Concerned about is the safety and privacy of not only 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.680 the people at Maddie's house in Glenwood, but the neighborhood. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.360 You know, they're proposing putting cabins in the woods that's 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.400 not even attached to the mansion. It has a separate 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.800 entrance on Kipling Avenue. So we're really worried about the 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:43.320 security and privacy of the surrounding community, let alone rooftop 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.000 bar you know, that could be up operating into the 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.520 early mornings. So those are some of the things that 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:50.559 we're concerned about. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.520 Yeah, you know the thing that when we were talking 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.560 about this beforehand, that and look, maybe this is all 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.599 perfectly on the up and up. I'm sure it is, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.680 or other wise there would be a stink about this 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.480 in some other building in general. But I'm just having 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.800 a hard time, Bob Julie. I don't know which one 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.560 of you could answer this question, but I have a 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:16.160 hard time understanding how the Powell, Crawsley and the Franciscan 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.120 Sisters of the Poor can get into an agreement with 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:26.080 the Cincinnati Preservation Association for one dollar right to basically, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.960 you know, in good faith, ensure that it's preserved the 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.440 stewardship and the benefit of the public. And then how 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.320 the CPA can turn around and put this on the 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.119 market for any amount of money, much less two point 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.560 four million dollars can either one of you speak to that? 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.360 Is that perfectly legal? Is that normal? Have you ever 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:45.240 heard of it before? 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.200 Well, I've never heard one that. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.800 Oh go ahead, Bob, Well, I'll tell you what. I 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.000 was on a focus group, a community focus group that 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:00.640 the sisters formed when they or decide to leave the 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.960 Providence Hospital property. And you know, they sought input and 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.640 at no time did anyone ever consider selling it to 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.840 a for profit organization that would not be serving the community, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.040 that would have bar hotel and you know, residents of 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.800 you out in the woods. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.600 It was under no consideration. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.200 So it's really kind of surprising that the Sinsini Preservation Association, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.640 you know, would consider this sale. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.640 Go ahead, Julie, Yeah there there. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.400 I know that John Starts with the CEO of Monsecus 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.520 Mercy Health did put a call into CPA and said, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.840 do the right thing, transfer it to Maddie's House. We 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.480 want to create a wellness community, you know, the lack 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.640 we we need. We have enough bars, we have enough restaurants, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.480 we have enough hotels, but we are lacking in mental 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.600 health support for our community. I got a call from 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.360 doctor Smarca not too long ago. She had twelve kids 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.800 basically kids thirteen to nineteen in her Morgue that had 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.920 taken their life. This is unacceptable and we need to 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.640 do more as a community. And Mattie's House is doing 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.720 what we can. Glenn Wood is doing it. We have 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.400 a great We work hand in hand. They go into 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.120 the inpatient hospital right there on campus. They referred to 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.360 Mattie's House for our free service services to continue building 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.680 that road to healthy and that's exactly what we're doing. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.320 And that's exactly what that campus is for. Our house 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.040 was known by the Sisters. They named it the House 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.000 of Peace. The property was meant to bring peace. That's 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.640 what it does. But this disruption of a hotel project, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.840 and like Bob said, Cabins in the Woods, the safety factor, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.600 the you know, having alcohol, you know, being able to 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.480 be carried through the campus, which would cause huge triggers 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.280 for the community that we serve and just that could 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:57.320 be life or death for them, exactly, absolutely life or death. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:58.520 And I think it's worth noting. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.160 And you just said it, Julie, but I think it's 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.319 worth noting, and I brought it up when we started 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.680 this conversation. I mean, you guys aren't looking for some 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 handout here. I mean the bottom line is, when you 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.000 found out that this property had gone up for sale, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.320 you guys actually were able to bid on this in 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.160 a competitive bid up to. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.600 Two million dollars. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.360 So obviously you guys are saying, hey, look, here's what 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.160 we're doing. The track record and the history of this 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.840 we've laid out already, and so we want to continue 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.160 to do good things, really good things for a lot 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.640 of people in our area. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.360 And we were willing to pay for it. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.440 But over three hundred thousand dollars in this bid that 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.560 it's ultimately and all of this obviously is contingent upon 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.040 this being rezoned for this couple that is buying it. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.080 You guys weren't looking for some handout here. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.679 No, No, we had wonderful donors that put pledges in 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.200 to get us up to that two million dollars. It's 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.679 amazing the outcry the families that support us, you know 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.679 our fun I know, Tom, you've been part of one 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.040 of our fund raising events that you know, you're a 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.640 great dad. Marty Brenneman, you know, took on the punches 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.959 and throws, you know, doing the roast and tales from 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.880 out of South. So we're constantly fundraising, but our donors 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.440 are committed. They're committed family member members that have lost 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.800 someone to suicide or an overdose, and just just other 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.959 community and nonprofits and foundations. And we were able to 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.520 secure up to two million dollars cash cash I'm two 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.240 to give to the sins I Preservation so that we 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.920 could take on the property so we could continue our 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:46.040 services benefiting the community for mental health services here in 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:46.679 the Tri States. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.080 And again, if I would assume if somebody wanted to 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.440 reach out to the zoning examiner, that is David Sturkey. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.280 And like you said, this hearing is scheduled for tomorrow 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.080 morning at ten am. Do you have any idea how 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.120 somebody might reach out to him if they would like 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.200 to express how they feel about this whole thing. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.000 Oh please, it's on the website. They can go to 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.120 the Zone inc Commission's website and reach out to David Sturkey. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.360 We are having a watch party for numerous members of 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.720 the community where we live. They're very old and you 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.280 know this is all on a zoom call tomorrow, and 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.000 so so many of them have reached out to Glenwood 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.679 and Matty South saying we don't know how to do zoom, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.240 we don't even own a computer. So the Zoning Commission 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.320 did prove us to do a party, an event at 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.959 Matty's South so these neighbors could come. So if there's 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.760 any neighbors that are listening to this and they need 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.120 to come over to be heard and be part of it, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.800 we are hosting a breakfast at Mattei's South from nine 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.280 to ten. At ten o'clock we will be zooming in 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.440 with the Zoning Commission and David Sturkey and the rest 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.840 of the commission to see what they have to say 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.760 talk about our concerns. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.520 Bob Finley, Julie Roley Camp, thank you both enough, keep 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.360 on fighting the good fight and we're rooting for you 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:06.000 tomorrow morning. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:10.600 Thanks for your time today, Oh, thank you so very much. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.400 Absolutely all right, let's check the roadways one more time 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.480 here and see what's happening out there, Chuck, how are 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.640 things at eight twenty two A? My friends starting to 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.080 settle down just a bit, A couple of problems. 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SMP futures a rising 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.680 twenty one points down, futures gaining ninety and workers say 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.840 having DEI on a resume can be a career killer. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.680 Just a few years ago, working in diversity, equity and 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.640 inclusion made a person a hot commodity in corporate America. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.880 DEI specialist tell Bloomberg they're getting fewer interviews new postings 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.920 for diversity roles have been approximately cut in half this 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.920 year from twenty nineteen, according to Ravellio Labs, Accordney Donahope 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.280 Bloomberg Radio. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.480 Hi, here we go a little were Wolves of London. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.760 He was just in London, so why not introduce Marty 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.040 Brenneman as one of the were Wolves of London. Did 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.120 you hear this song when you were in London at all? 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.520 Marty Brenneman in the were Wolves of London from the 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.080 late Great warren Zevon. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.080 Yeah, that warren Zvon is late and great, no question 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.800 about that. But no, that song has gone by, just 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.840 like so many others have ass through and rarely ever 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:02.560 is heard again. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.320 Well, but you, I mean you have become obviously you 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.640 couldn't declare citizenship, but you have been a pretty regular 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.160 there in London. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.640 Well, we like London. I'm a man who's a big 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.840 fan of London. I'm a big fan of London. That's 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.240 of all the places I've been in Europe, that's my 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:27.680 favorite city. And so we're naturally attracted to it. And 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.840 we had a good stay there. We stayed in a 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:35.800 hotel excuse me, right by Pancras station, which is a 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.880 major train station in London. You walk out the door 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.920 and you're in the train station, which is cool because 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.880 we take a lot of trains there. We're a big 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.040 fan of the underground and trains because traffic is obviously 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.000 what you would expect to be in London. But I 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.800 like the city, I like the people. I ain't crazy 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.680 about the food. I've probably starved to death within three months, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.800 but you can find places to eat there that would 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.880 be more tuned into what your likes are. So I 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.560 just like the city. It's clean, it's friendly, they love Americans, obviously, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.399 and I just enjoy being there. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.600 You know, the last time we caught up with you, 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.639 you were in Lisbon and you had just left Barcelona. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.720 Speaking of food, right, and you really liked Lisbon Barcelona. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.680 You sounded kind of lukewarm. Maybe a little warmer than lukewarm, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.639 but about lukewarm. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.680 At the end of the day. What was the food 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:26.960 like in those stops? 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:28.920 Because you know, people say a lot of great things 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:33.040 about both of those cities, both of those countries, Spain, Portugal, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.800 et cetera. But how was it dining If people are 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:36.800 thinking about going. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.760 Over there, well, I think it all based on what 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.199 your tastes are you know, you can order dishes that 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:52.920 are probably prepared in a Spanish way or a Portuguese 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.000 way that may be alien to you, but I mean 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.679 the basic dishes of beef and chicken and things of 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.560 that nature are fine. I think the food there, Although 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.680 I don't know that. There was so much hype involved 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:13.040 about Barcelona and Spain for us that I felt like, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.240 probably it was a bit of a comdown based on 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.879 what I expected. Portugal was everything I thought it would be. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.320 In Moore, I mean, it's just Lisbon is just a great, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:28.879 great city, clean and there's no negative about the city 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.320 that we could find. And then we went, interestingly enough, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:36.439 we went to Tangiers in Morocco, and of all the 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.320 places that we traveled, that's in one country where we 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.960 felt like we were truly, without any doubt in a 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.200 foreign country. You can find things in Spain and Portugal 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.280 and England and other places that you go that may 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.159 give you just a slight feel of home, but that 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:58.880 was completely alien. It's an interesting city, it's an interesting history, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.320 and what I find domin this is bad. This is 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.000 terrible to say because it's a typical American comment. You 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.119 have preconceived notions about places and how they're going to be. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.400 And then when like us, we're on a cruise ship 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.080 and you know, they travel all night to get to 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.240 port and be there at eight o'clock in the morning 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.560 so you can get off, but you have an idea 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.360 about what it's going to look like, and naturally, it's 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.119 unfortunate that the mindset is that it's not going to 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:31.000 be nearly as modern as we are. Honest to God, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:36.359 it's amazing how these cities show up in your mindset 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.560 to make you change your thinking about places like that. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.520 I know, back if they come here, they naturally are 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.240 going to be expecting something lavish and over the top, 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.879 and skyscraper after skyscraper are things that they may not 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.280 see in their country, and so they're not surprised. They 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.320 may be overwhelmed by it, but they're not surprised because 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.359 their expectations are so high when they come to the 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.879 United States. But in my case, and I apologize if 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.000 it offends people, you have a certain expectation that's not 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.760 nearly as high as what it turns out to be. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.879 So I think you get a better appreciation of some 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.760 of these places if you were going to map out 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.760 a trip to the Europe and somebody said, you played 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.240 put eight countries that you want to go. I promise 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.639 you Morocco would not be one of them. But it was. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.719 It was very, very impressive. It really truly was. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.800 All Right, I want to shift gears for a minute 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.320 to the performance the other night in the National League 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.120 Championship Series by Shohei Otani. I don't know how much 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:41.560 you got to watch, if at all time difference. Okay, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:47.160 when you think about one man and the history of baseball, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.879 which is you know, I mean off the charts, oozes, 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.720 bleeds history and postseason after postseason, regular season, et cetera. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:02.120 The players, the names, the moments. Is it's not even close, right, 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.040 This was the greatest single performance of any game ever played, 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.919 regular season or postseason game in the history of baseball. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.760 Would you agree with that one hundred percent? 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.520 Yeah, because you have to also have to throw in 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.439 the circumstances. And we're not talking about a June third game. 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.400 You know that might not mean anything. You're talking about 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:29.359 a big time postseason game and the ramifications of what 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.440 could have happened, probably not because the Dodger swept them. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.200 But you ask people give me. 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:36.920 A game that was better what he did. 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.639 You can't because the home runs are one thing, but 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.800 then to pitch and do what he did on the mound, 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.280 in addition to being the first pitcher ever the lead 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.199 game off of the home run under any circumstances, and 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.520 then they hit two more, one of which went completely 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:57.000 out of Dodger Stadium. There's never been People can argue 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.320 till they're blue in the Facebook. It never convinced me 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.840 that a single player ever had a greater game than 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.800 that kid had in that ball game. 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.800 Never you know, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead, 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.520 finish your thought. I want to ask you about something. 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:10.840 Go ahead. 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.600 The point I was gonna make. The point I was 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.560 going to make is you and I were around the 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.680 game long enough that I don't care what people of 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.760 football and basketball, hockey or whatever they want. That's just 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.919 single stuff is sport to play at a high level. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.800 We're talking about a guy that makes it look easy, 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.240 Honest to god, he makes it look easy when he's 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.480 at the plate, when he's pitching, he looks like he 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:41.560 is a superman among very talented people. And that says 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.200 an awful lot for anybody in the game of baseball. 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.159 I don't know if you saw this. I did not. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.239