Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday
Speaker 1: on a really nice Saturday morning. Well, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: we got a full show today for the first time
Speaker 1: in a while. Be here nine to noon. Should be
Speaker 1: plenty of time to get y'all out in time for
Speaker 1: the No King's protest. The one down here is small
Speaker 1: riverfront park. They got one in Claremont County. They got
Speaker 1: one in northern Kentucky, they got one in Westchester. So
Speaker 1: I'll make sure y'all get out of there, get done
Speaker 1: with this thing, so you can go. Of course, I
Speaker 1: say that with tongue planted firmly in chic and you know,
Speaker 1: not to get off on this, but I mean, what
Speaker 1: do they think they accomplish? I mean, really, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, it's performative. It's so
Speaker 1: they can feel good about out themselves. And they're pretty
Speaker 1: much all the same. I mean, you know, you get
Speaker 1: some three hundred pound woman with purple hair and nose
Speaker 1: rings bitching about Donald Trump. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what does that accomplish? I don't get it, But you
Speaker 1: know what, more power to them. It's a free country.
Speaker 1: We have a first Amendment here, but you're just wasting
Speaker 1: your time. But sometimes there really is some humor in it,
Speaker 1: so I guess we'll see on that. But getting down
Speaker 1: to business here, when as I talk just for a
Speaker 1: minute about the left's response to the ceasefire that was
Speaker 1: engineered by President Trump and bb Net and Yahoo mainly
Speaker 1: Trump though in the Israel Palestine war. Fox News Digital
Speaker 1: has it's really good, has a great article on this thing.
Speaker 1: It says, it's titled the Deafening silence of the Free
Speaker 1: Power Palestine Movement after the Gaza Ceasefire. Now, in a
Speaker 1: normal world, wouldn't you think that the people that have
Speaker 1: been complaining the loudest about it would say, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what, it wasn't everything that we wanted it to be,
Speaker 1: But thank you, President Trump. That stuff don't happen on
Speaker 1: the left, It just doesn't. They're never wrong about anything.
Speaker 1: They'll never admit when they are wrong. You know, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen, and it kind of comes from the
Speaker 1: inherent arrogance of liberalism. But you didn't hear anyone on
Speaker 1: the left comment about it at all. And of course
Speaker 1: there's no surprise there, and you know they'll be back,
Speaker 1: they'll be singing their Peter Paul and Mary songs and
Speaker 1: bitching about one thing or another. What about the Hollywood
Speaker 1: b listers who had a field day criticizing Trump. And
Speaker 1: you know, this week we heard reports that Hamas was
Speaker 1: executing Palestinian citizens who say they were or they say
Speaker 1: was assisting Israel. So where is the left complaining about that?
Speaker 1: And they actually had pictures of that? And does that
Speaker 1: surprise anyone either? See, that's the thing about this agreement.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a difficult thing to police, but
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do that. They kill each
Speaker 1: other over there. And again, I'll say it, there's not
Speaker 1: a damn dime's worth of difference between Palestine and Jmas.
Speaker 1: If the Palestinians didn't want Hamas, they kicked their asses
Speaker 1: out of there a long, long time ago. And you know,
Speaker 1: now maybe the time is ripe for them to do something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what the military situation
Speaker 1: is over there, but now they're killing one another. What
Speaker 1: about all the Hollywood bubbleheads who President Trump for what
Speaker 1: he did to bring the war to a peaceful conclusion.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we need to talk about that
Speaker 1: just for a second. Here okay, Fox New Celebrities who
Speaker 1: called for ceasefire and guys have faced scrutiny after Trump
Speaker 1: peace deal breakthrough. Hollywood's most vocal free Palestine advocates are
Speaker 1: facing scrutiny for their muted or critical response to the
Speaker 1: ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas, which was secured, of course,
Speaker 1: by President Trump. Many in Hollywood who repeatedly called for
Speaker 1: ceasefire throughout the conflict, including members of campaigns such as
Speaker 1: Artists for Ceasefire film Workers for Palestine, have either stayed
Speaker 1: quiet or criticized the breakthrough, with few acknowledgments of Trump's
Speaker 1: role in securing it. And that's just it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what they wanted. They're not going to get their
Speaker 1: free Palestine, but they did get the ceasefire. You would
Speaker 1: think there would be a little bit of gratitude there,
Speaker 1: but no, not even gratitude, just at least acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: Columnist Paulaphrelic she criticized about a dozen celebrities who publicly
Speaker 1: called for free Palestine and ceasefire now or wore a
Speaker 1: red handpin to the Oscars in twenty twenty four. She
Speaker 1: said many have since stayed silent on the peace deal,
Speaker 1: or continued to blame Israel for all the atrocities that
Speaker 1: have happened in the past two years. You know, I
Speaker 1: guess they weren't there for October the seventh, when babies
Speaker 1: were murdered, women were raped, families were destroyed. But hey,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything. We're not worried about that. We're
Speaker 1: worried about Israel. And you know, they're alleged crimes, which
Speaker 1: there were none. There were none of substance. And you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll take that back. A couple things happened,
Speaker 1: but the Israeli stepped right up. Well, anyway, this woman,
Speaker 1: Paula Farilik, had a good quote. If I were less charitable,
Speaker 1: I might argue that Hollywood celebrities care more about a
Speaker 1: performative farce. And boy, she's so right. And that's just it.
Speaker 1: She got the right word. Performative sparse. That's what they
Speaker 1: want to do, scolding Israel and our president than seeing
Speaker 1: a free Palestine actually happen in real time. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. How's that for hypocrisy? And that was
Speaker 1: coming from a person in the UK. Some supporters of
Speaker 1: the Free Palestine movement maintained that the ceasefire does not
Speaker 1: fully address the humanitarian crisis or allegations accusing Israel of genocide.
Speaker 1: Every time I hear that, that gets there on the
Speaker 1: back of my neck.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Israel and the IDF did not commit any type of
Speaker 1: genocide over there. Amasa, on the other hand, on October
Speaker 1: the seventh and throughout did And it looks like they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep it up this time. They're not gonna kill Israelis.
Speaker 1: They're gonna kill their own people. That's what you're dealing
Speaker 1: with here. These people are scum. They're the scum of
Speaker 1: the earth. They're filthy people. They kill babies, they rape women,
Speaker 1: they destroy lives. Why in the hell are people saddling
Speaker 1: up with them? I never could figure that out. It
Speaker 1: just shows that the twisted sense of values and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: just a really stupid outlook on things. And of course
Speaker 1: we all know where it em and H's from. That
Speaker 1: would be the American College camp. Oh here's another one,
Speaker 1: this dude, John Cusack. He's an actor. I've heard of him.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he's been in. But
Speaker 1: to anyone that believes for a moment that Net and
Speaker 1: Yahoo will stop killing again, idiot What about the other side,
Speaker 1: What about the moss idiot? I got to calm down.
Speaker 1: To anyone who believes for a moment that Netanyahu will
Speaker 1: stop killing there's a brood a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Speaker 1: He'll give Trump the photo op and then resume. This
Speaker 1: is what the guy said, accusing both leaders of using
Speaker 1: the deal for political gain. So you know, that's Hollywood
Speaker 1: for you. I guess I gotta be fair and read
Speaker 1: the I think one that I found where they express
Speaker 1: support for it. Other celebrities expressed cautious optimism, progressive actors
Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo and Susan Sarana. Now, I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: Susan Sarandon is one of the biggest libs in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: so this is kind of impressive. Shared a statement from
Speaker 1: artists Force Ceasefire on October tenth, calling the agreement an
Speaker 1: urgent and heartening moment of relief. So kudos for them
Speaker 1: for at least having the you know what to step forward,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean give the man his due.
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize. The
Speaker 1: woman who got it, I don't know what for. You know,
Speaker 1: I got to hand it to her too. She dedicated
Speaker 1: it to President Trump, So whatever, I mean, that's kind
Speaker 1: of water under the damn. But just stay tuned on
Speaker 1: this thing, because it's not over. Those people are going
Speaker 1: to continue to kill their own people over there, and
Speaker 1: I guess the protests for that will be upcoming pretty soon,
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. I guess. Well, this week we also
Speaker 1: had a real sentencing of a terrorist. You may recall
Speaker 1: that last week we were talking about the situation with
Speaker 1: the guy that came to b at Kavanaugh's house ready
Speaker 1: to go to town at all his equipment, ready to
Speaker 1: kill him and or his family. And what did he get?
Speaker 1: What sentence did he get for attempting to assassinate a
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice? He got eight years credit free and
Speaker 1: figuring in the good time. Dude will be out sometime
Speaker 1: and no later than twenty twenty eight. So let me
Speaker 1: talk to you about the way terrorists should be sentenced.
Speaker 1: There's at least one judge in this country who knows
Speaker 1: how to sentence a terrorist. Dude's name is Cody Balmer.
Speaker 1: You might remember this. He attempted to burn way. He
Speaker 1: did burn down the governor's mansion for Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to listen to this twenty five to
Speaker 1: excuse me, twenty five to fifty years in prison for
Speaker 1: the April thirteenth, twenty twenty five arson attack on the
Speaker 1: official residence of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. He pled guilty
Speaker 1: to charges including attempted murder, aggravated arson, and terrorism after
Speaker 1: firebombing the home while the governor and his family were inside.
Speaker 1: This one really really could.
Speaker 3: Have been bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Like I said, he firebombed the Governor's residence
Speaker 1: in Harrisburg, causing millions of dollars in damage. He used
Speaker 1: molotov cocktails made from beer bottles filled with gasolin. You
Speaker 1: think those things can't do some damage, you know, But
Speaker 1: he got twenty five to fifty years in state prison.
Speaker 1: That's what you do with these people, you had, well.
Speaker 1: Number one, first and foremost, you've got to punish them
Speaker 1: because they deserve punishment. But you also have to send
Speaker 1: a message that hey, man, if you want to try
Speaker 1: this stuff and you get caught, shame on you. You're
Speaker 1: going to get hammered, you know, with a sentence like
Speaker 1: this guy got, it's appropriate twenty five to thirty years.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Pennsylvania law. You know, whether early
Speaker 1: release would be a possibility, It probably would. He pled
Speaker 1: to twenty two counts of arson, So I guess we'll
Speaker 1: have to see. But it was gratifying to see that,
Speaker 1: especially coming so close after the travesty we had with
Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh's murderer attempted murder sentence just a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes here saw something this week that was kind of
Speaker 1: shall I say, uplifting to me, transgenders, The trend is
Speaker 1: declining quickly on American college campuses. This new analysis found
Speaker 1: the trans identification trend among young people appears to be
Speaker 1: losing momentum. Recent data taken from college campuses shows a
Speaker 1: sharp decline in the number of gen Zers identifying as
Speaker 1: transgender over the past three years. Okay, let me lay
Speaker 1: it out for you, and both twenty twenty two and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, five percent of college people identified as trans.
Speaker 1: IT went up in twenty twenty four to five point
Speaker 1: two percent. Now just recently, only three point six percent
Speaker 1: identify as trans. You know, it doesn't sound like that's
Speaker 1: a lot, but you're not talking about a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Only three point six, As I said, respondents identified as
Speaker 1: a gender other than male or female. And did you
Speaker 1: ever think that we would actually be talking about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's to me and I think so many
Speaker 1: other people, it's just so simple. Almighty God created us
Speaker 1: to be one thing or another, not in between, not
Speaker 1: to take your body apart, cutting things off, to transform
Speaker 1: with what you think on that particular day. So good
Speaker 1: news only five point two percent, well up to five
Speaker 1: point two and twenty twenty four it was eight point
Speaker 1: six in you know what, I missed that up when
Speaker 1: I read it before, uh, six point eight percent both
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and twenty three. Bottom line is
Speaker 1: it's going down and that has to be a good thing.
Speaker 1: And let me be clear, and it seems like I
Speaker 1: have to say this every time, but I do want
Speaker 1: to be clear. I'm not advocating for any kind of
Speaker 1: ill treatment of transgender people, not even advocating for being
Speaker 1: rude to them. What I am advocating for is the
Speaker 1: government and through us, our taxpayer dollars, to facilitate that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, this guy Ruffle or what's his name, the
Speaker 1: guy that the guy that attempted to murder Brett Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: and his family. Part of his sentence was that the
Speaker 1: government is going to have to pay at least some
Speaker 1: of his medical bills for his sex change stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think that's what's good about it. It's good to
Speaker 1: see those numbers going the other way. So I guess
Speaker 1: we shall see what happens with that. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: to take a break, but we'll be back with your calls.
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Speaker 1: to the phones here in just a second. Just want
Speaker 1: to let you know. At ten o'clock after this segment,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times.
Speaker 1: She did as deep a dive as I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in two separate articles about Antifa. Just a real shadow,
Speaker 1: shadowy organization that people don't know a lot about. But
Speaker 1: Janis is going to fill us in on all that.
Speaker 1: At ten thirty we're going to talk as we frequently do,
Speaker 1: local politics, city politics with Christopher Smitheman, and at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: I always enjoy this independent political analysts, and he is independent.
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton we're going to talk to him about some
Speaker 1: of the things going on in the national political scene.
Speaker 1: So I think we got a good show for you. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's start off with our good friend Bobby. Hey, good morning, Bobby, Mike.
Speaker 4: A simple thank you can't express our true feelings of
Speaker 4: appreciation for you carrying that torture freedom high and bright
Speaker 4: every day and make you're appreciated brother.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's my honor to do it. Bobby.
Speaker 4: I'd like to bring up something we've discussed in the past,
Speaker 4: and it's the midst of our cultural revolution.
Speaker 5: We're going to have.
Speaker 4: Part of it going today, and all the protesters out there,
Speaker 4: just take your cell phones because when Antifa and filtrate
Speaker 4: your organization, we would love to know who you are
Speaker 4: and where you're at, since you can't turn them all.
Speaker 1: Good point, good point. You know, they go through these
Speaker 1: things and at the end of the day, of course
Speaker 1: they have a right to do it, But what do
Speaker 1: they think they accomplish. More often than not, they look
Speaker 1: like idiots.
Speaker 6: You know that.
Speaker 1: I've always said this, Bobby, and I believe it. Most
Speaker 1: of your hard left people, they're obsessed with the sixties.
Speaker 1: They want to turn the clock back to the sixties,
Speaker 1: and you know, people just don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but hey, you know what have
Speaker 1: about it, guys, if you want to make a fool
Speaker 1: of yourself, go ahead.
Speaker 7: All it does is support our calls. My friend, you're
Speaker 7: absolutely right about that. I mean, I don't know. We
Speaker 7: shall see, boy, I'll tell you what. They sure got
Speaker 7: enough locations though in this area, and they seem to
Speaker 7: be pretty well organized.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, what I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you accomplish anyway, That's just what I think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, my friend, and I hope they are
Speaker 4: in the Rico Act somewhere.
Speaker 1: You never know, man, Thanks Bobby, Thank you, sir. Okay,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Well, I'll tell you you know, Bobby
Speaker 1: just mentioned RICO. I think in relationship to Antifa. Rico
Speaker 1: is the organized crime statute that federal. You got it
Speaker 1: in the state law too, but mainly federal where it's
Speaker 1: if you can just to boil it all down, demonstrate
Speaker 1: that some entity is a criminal entity, then there's going
Speaker 1: to be some criminal liability. Now we'll talk to Janis
Speaker 1: about this, but you know, Trump gave that executive order
Speaker 1: not too long ago designating Antifa as a terrorist organization,
Speaker 1: and they're drilling down on it. I think it's in
Speaker 1: its infancy, but they're drilling down on that entity named Antifa,
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. And one of the things
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking at is who's funding him.
Speaker 1: They're real sketchy with their funding, and that's one of
Speaker 1: the things I think this probe is going to find
Speaker 1: out now whether it's a George sorosteal, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've read things where they show up to
Speaker 1: these rallies with like preprinted placards that they can carry around,
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't do those. The night before,
Speaker 1: I did read this morning that apparently Soros is pretty
Speaker 1: much bankroll in this whole idiocy of No King's Day. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Antifa is a problem for a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, they just kind of were in the background.
Speaker 1: You weren't allowed to criticize him or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but god forbid you criticize Black Lives Matter or one
Speaker 1: of those groups. But knowing Trump, I think he's got
Speaker 1: a handle on the thing and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I guess let's talk to Dennis. We haven't heard from
Speaker 1: him in a long time. Hey, Dennis, how you doing.
Speaker 1: Welcome back?
Speaker 3: All right, Mike, how are you good? Good?
Speaker 1: What you got today? Good?
Speaker 8: Yeah? This character who was sentenced for tempting to murder
Speaker 8: you know here you know the Supreme Court. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: and his family and the sentence he got. You know,
Speaker 8: somebody should have brought up what if he attempted the
Speaker 8: judge who sentenced them, well, if he had attempted to
Speaker 8: kill her and her family or you know, and and
Speaker 8: and the fact that he's he she addressed them as
Speaker 8: a transgender Uh, you know, he's a biological male. And
Speaker 8: I think, isn't he going to a female prison or
Speaker 8: is he going to a male prisoner?
Speaker 1: I think maybe initially a male prison. You know that's
Speaker 1: on the Bureau of Prisons, and you know what a
Speaker 1: job they have to have to balance that whole circus.
Speaker 1: She seemed like she was more concerned about his transgender
Speaker 1: rights than she was in you know, crafting the right.
Speaker 1: It made sense.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I like these these these judges that are
Speaker 8: these people that these transgender people to get men biological
Speaker 8: men get sent who sent get sent to women's prisons?
Speaker 8: How do they reconcile the fact that these some of
Speaker 8: the some of them impregnate the women inmates, which means
Speaker 8: they are functioning as males, biological males, not as females.
Speaker 1: Well, that just goes out topsy turvy. This world is
Speaker 1: in this country is I've heard that same thing too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd hate to be a warden of one
Speaker 1: of these federal prisons where on top of everything else,
Speaker 1: and prisons are places where bad things happen on top
Speaker 1: of the normal things that happen. You got to deal
Speaker 1: with this too, and it's just so unnecessary. Why do
Speaker 1: we have to jump through hoops for a group that
Speaker 1: is minuscule in number.
Speaker 8: Yeah, another thing, what do you think is gonna happen
Speaker 8: with your police chief there in.
Speaker 1: A you know what, I don't know. I think she's gone.
Speaker 1: She retained Steve m who is one hell of a
Speaker 1: employment lawyer. I think they're negotiating a settlement.
Speaker 8: For Yeah, you think she It sounds like she's been
Speaker 8: made the fall I say, fall guy or whatever, the
Speaker 8: scapegoat of this whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. And that's happening by
Speaker 1: some members accouncil, but mainly the mayor. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not the way the situation is in the city
Speaker 1: crime wise, it ain't her fault. Has she been perfect?
Speaker 1: Probably not, But it's just wrong that all this stuff
Speaker 1: is heaped upon her. But I think she'll be gone
Speaker 1: by this time next week, probably sooner.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Ye.
Speaker 8: Who should really follows your mayor? That's who needs to
Speaker 8: be kicked out.
Speaker 1: You would think. And we got an election coming out.
Speaker 1: But boy, I'll tell you, the city of Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: a tough nut for a Republican the crack. But I
Speaker 1: think Corey Bowman what I don't know how much know
Speaker 1: about him, just a great he's the brother in law
Speaker 1: of the Vice president, but just on his own great candidate,
Speaker 1: knows the issues, got the right temperament. But again he's
Speaker 1: got an uphill battle.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did watch. We watched the debate
Speaker 8: on the on the on the streaming, and yeah, you're right,
Speaker 8: he actually cares and he has no he has no
Speaker 8: further political aspirations, right, like right.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I appreciate the call, Dennis, don't put a
Speaker 1: stranger anymore. Okay, okay, bye bye. Yeah, I'm glad he
Speaker 1: brought that up. I didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Sometime during the show, and I do think she's gone.
Speaker 1: Steve im is in the Finny law firm. I think,
Speaker 1: great law firm, and Steve is a very well respected
Speaker 1: lawyer in this area. So and you don't hire a
Speaker 1: top notch guy like that if you know, you think
Speaker 1: you're going to keep your job. But it's uh, it's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: it really is. And one thing, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: get back to the phones here in just a second.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize this, and maybe with
Speaker 1: me it's a function of age. Back in the nineties,
Speaker 1: I believe it was maybe early two thousands, there was
Speaker 1: an issue on the city ballot. It was Issue five,
Speaker 1: and what it was all about is taking away civil
Speaker 1: service protection from the chief of police and placing that
Speaker 1: in the hands of the mayor. I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you right now it was dumb, dumb, dumb, But it
Speaker 1: passed I think pretty handily. If my recollection is correct.
Speaker 1: If we did not have Issue five, and if the
Speaker 1: police chief still had civil service protections and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying she's doing this, any police chief would not have
Speaker 1: to go down to city Hall and say may or,
Speaker 1: may I you know, and that and it worked out
Speaker 1: well for years and years and years. Perhaps perhaps we
Speaker 1: might need to get that back on the ballot, because
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if Issue five and what promulgated from
Speaker 1: Issue five wasn't there, we wouldn't be in the mess
Speaker 1: that we're in. We still have crime problems, but the
Speaker 1: chief of police would not be a political entity. That
Speaker 1: person would be a law enforcement entity. Anyway, let's talk
Speaker 1: to Barry in Miamisburg. Hey, Barry, how you doing.
Speaker 9: I just want to ask the question, after listening to
Speaker 9: the radio over the course of the week, how much
Speaker 9: more clueless the city leadership be about crime.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you're absolutely right, You are so right about that.
Speaker 1: They don't get it.
Speaker 9: I heard the mayor talk about needing more gun control.
Speaker 9: One the problem, you she is not being criminals in
Speaker 9: jail for more than three hours. Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's not gun control. It's a problem with police not
Speaker 1: being aggressive and proactive. And again, I know I say
Speaker 1: this every time, but I think I should. It ain't
Speaker 1: their fault. I think they'd love to be unleashed and
Speaker 1: do aggressive and legal, constitutional, proactive policing. That's what we need.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's going to solve this, not
Speaker 1: gun control, not more programs. You know, I'm sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 9: First of all, I do not believe the problem is
Speaker 9: with your rank and file police officer. They have to
Speaker 9: deal with the garbage that they get from the top.
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. I mean it's a pairamilitary organization. If their boss,
Speaker 1: you know, the sergeant, captain, lieutenant, a system chief, chief, whatever,
Speaker 1: tells them to do something, I mean, as long it's
Speaker 1: not patently illegal, they have to do it. It is not.
Speaker 1: You are so so right, Barry. It is not the
Speaker 1: line level officer. That police officer is not at fault.
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of these young guys and women,
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much almost to the person, what I get.
Speaker 1: They're afraid to do their jobs like they used to
Speaker 1: be done because, you know, let's just say they pull
Speaker 1: over the wrong person. You know, they say, just accidentally
Speaker 1: something you know, out of line to the wrong person, Boom,
Speaker 1: They're in the jackpot and they're not going to risk that.
Speaker 1: I don't blame them.
Speaker 9: The second thing is your next guest from Epic Time. Yes,
Speaker 9: it's part of the reason why I have an electric
Speaker 9: subscription to that. She is so on the ball it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 9: You know what.
Speaker 1: You said that before, and I told her that and
Speaker 1: she told me to tell you she appreciates it. So
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, I concur with that. She's very well. Okay, Barry,
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. How about Maureen, Let's talk to Maureen. Hey, Maureen,
Speaker 1: how are you hi?
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 10: I wanted to chime in on the groups that are
Speaker 10: involved with the No Kings.
Speaker 3: Movement this week today.
Speaker 10: There was an article yesterday, it was on the Gateway Pundit,
Speaker 10: and it's called No King's Protest in New York City
Speaker 10: Saturday is sponsored by several communist groups and it goes
Speaker 10: into it's the Democratic Socialists of America, New York Working
Speaker 10: Families and Parties, the CPUSA Freedom Socialist Party, and they're
Speaker 10: all sponsoring this lat rally. And if you go to
Speaker 10: that article on Gateway Pundit from yesterday, it'll tell you.
Speaker 11: It'll give you a video of.
Speaker 10: Chuck Schumer and how he's promoting it. Instead of trying
Speaker 10: to work on shutting down the shutdown or opening up again,
Speaker 10: he's promoting this this movement today.
Speaker 12: But it always.
Speaker 10: Sponsored by communist parties and they'll give you all the
Speaker 10: whole list. There's like, I don't know, over one hundred
Speaker 10: of them in that article. I'm gonna be good for
Speaker 10: people to look at.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna check that out, you know. And didn't
Speaker 1: you just say that part of it is one of
Speaker 1: the endorsers is the Communist Party of USA. Is that correct?
Speaker 13: Absolutely?
Speaker 10: Yes, and it's yeah, it's a lot of them that
Speaker 10: It's all in that article. It shows you all their
Speaker 10: logos and everything so that you can see them. I'm
Speaker 10: sure they'll be on their placards today that are pre made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, paid for by George Soros apparently. But
Speaker 1: all right, well I sure appreciate that. Heads up, Marine,
Speaker 1: sure check it out, Okay, I will thank you, thanks, Mike. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the organization she rattled off, I mean one of them
Speaker 1: was CPUSA Communist Party of the United States of America,
Speaker 1: which now is a joke. I mean it's just a joke,
Speaker 1: you know, just like the Klan is a joke on
Speaker 1: the other side. But it's still there. And all those
Speaker 1: other groups are what they used to call and I'm
Speaker 1: still going to call them Communist front organizations. Look if
Speaker 1: the City of New York Alexman Dami, they're going to
Speaker 1: get a dose. If he's true to his word, and
Speaker 1: I ain't so sure about that, but if he's true
Speaker 1: to his word and true to what he says he's
Speaker 1: going to do, we are going to have one hell
Speaker 1: of a crash in the city in New York. And
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of feel sorry for those people.
Speaker 1: Apparently some of the more wealthy ones business people are
Speaker 1: already getting the hell out of there. But it would
Speaker 1: be good in that we will get a bird'seye view
Speaker 1: of what happens when a municipal government is governed by
Speaker 1: someone who is at minimum a socialist and in all
Speaker 1: likelihood probably a communist. And you know, I've been around
Speaker 1: a while. I've enjoyed being interested in politics for a
Speaker 1: long long time, disgusted with my father at the dinner
Speaker 1: table and everything else. If you would have told me
Speaker 1: back then that there would be a communist or committed socialist,
Speaker 1: even borderline communist running for an office like that, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: I'd say, you're crazy. I always wonder, maybe it's weird,
Speaker 1: but I always wonder what Ronald Reagan must be thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy put this country on one hell
Speaker 1: of a straight course and boy, if he's looking down now,
Speaker 1: I don't think he can be too happy, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's the way it is. And thank god for
Speaker 1: one Donald J. Trump. He has turned more stuff around
Speaker 1: in less than a year than most presidents accomplish in
Speaker 1: their time in two terms. It's amazing and it's surprising
Speaker 1: to me, shocking to me in a good way. What's
Speaker 1: going on? And well, i'll tell you what. He is
Speaker 1: not letting anyone get in his way. Keep in mind
Speaker 1: with him, it's not even been a year yet. But
Speaker 1: we have to keep the House. We got to beef
Speaker 1: up that majority, we have to keep the Senate or
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, not all of it comes
Speaker 1: to a grinding halt. Hey, we got to break for
Speaker 1: the news. But again we've talked about this morning. When
Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk to Janis Heisel
Speaker 1: of the Epoch Times about Antifa, what they're all about
Speaker 1: and how they formed. We'll do that when we get back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday Midday News Radio seven Drew Mike Allen
Speaker 1: on Saturday Midday, Well, President Trump, the Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: and the FBI are really cracking down on terrorist groups
Speaker 1: like the one we're going to talk about Antifa. The
Speaker 1: President designated them as a domestic terrorist organization any ordered
Speaker 1: federal agencies to root out quote any and all illegal
Speaker 1: operations close quote. But really, I mean, what do we
Speaker 1: know about Antifa. I don't think it's very much. Really.
Speaker 1: Janis Heisl of the Epoch Times did a deep dive
Speaker 1: on this subject in two separate articles, and she's here
Speaker 1: this morning to tell us about it.
Speaker 14: Janus, good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, my pleasure, my pleasure. Just in general, tell us
Speaker 1: about what you learned about Antifa, and I'll have some
Speaker 1: specific questions later, but just generally what you found out,
Speaker 1: because I really don't think Janis people know a lot
Speaker 1: about the group.
Speaker 14: Well, actually I didn't either, and so I got this
Speaker 14: assignment and then, as you mentioned, I really did a
Speaker 14: lot of research and poured it into this story that
Speaker 14: you referenced, a couple of stories that I did. So
Speaker 14: one of the biggest things that stands out to me
Speaker 14: is that this movement actually encompasses a whole bunch of
Speaker 14: different ideologies. For example, it attracts a lot of people
Speaker 14: who are into anarchy, people who are into communism, and
Speaker 14: it actually has communist roots, which I did not know
Speaker 14: before I did this research.
Speaker 1: You know, I had heard that maybe maybe came across
Speaker 1: this that it kind of sprang from the Spanish Civil
Speaker 1: War back in the thirties and forties. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did you find anything out that would verify that, not
Speaker 1: that it matters.
Speaker 14: Actually, the anti fascist movement as it's known today is
Speaker 14: generally traced to nineteen thirty two when a group in
Speaker 14: Germany formed that caught it self in German, the English
Speaker 14: translation is anti fascist action.
Speaker 5: Thus the word antifa started to come into vogue.
Speaker 14: And even today, a lot of the signs, symbols that
Speaker 14: were used, flags and things that were used by that
Speaker 14: group are still in use today, embraced by this movement
Speaker 14: which ironically accuses other people of being fascist, but then
Speaker 14: they're accused of being fascist by again. The term fascism
Speaker 14: is even quote unquote hard to define, even according to
Speaker 14: people who are proponents of fascism. Generally, it's viewed as
Speaker 14: authoritarianism or trying to stop people from expressing their opinions
Speaker 14: or oppressing them.
Speaker 5: But then that is what antifa does.
Speaker 14: Antifa is it's such a contradictory thing because antifa says
Speaker 14: you know, we're going after people who.
Speaker 5: Are oppress others, But then what do they do?
Speaker 14: They try to stop people from seeing things they want
Speaker 14: to say. In fact, two of their slogans are quote
Speaker 14: no platform for people who are they deem fascist and
Speaker 14: it's up to them to decide who's a fascist, and
Speaker 14: anybody under their definition could be named a fascist.
Speaker 5: That was another surprise I.
Speaker 14: Was stunned to see on the Rose City Antifa, which
Speaker 14: is the Portland, Oregon where where there's been a lot
Speaker 14: of clashes lately with ICE and Antifa. One of their
Speaker 14: criteria is literally people who engage in anti liberal, anti
Speaker 14: communists or get this anti conservative rhetoric.
Speaker 5: Anybody might fit that definition. I just kind of liked it.
Speaker 5: I mean, although that's not the only criteria.
Speaker 14: They say that you have to have several criteria before
Speaker 14: they would deem you a fascist.
Speaker 5: But people who were in.
Speaker 14: The movement and blew the whistle on this say that,
Speaker 14: you know, as soon as you aren't stepping in line
Speaker 14: with what they want, you become a fascist and they
Speaker 14: attack you.
Speaker 1: Oh of course. You've got a really interesting quote on
Speaker 1: page eight of the longer article from a guy named
Speaker 1: Gabriel nadalas ex ANTIFA participant and author of a book.
Speaker 1: It's a real short quote. Antifas stands for anti fascist,
Speaker 1: but the name is deceptive. Anyone who dares to criticize
Speaker 1: the group or its tactics can be labeled a fascist.
Speaker 1: So you know, that word is getting to be like
Speaker 1: racist and racism, where it's tossed around so much. I mean,
Speaker 1: the word fascist tossed around so much that it's literally
Speaker 1: lost all of its value and meaning.
Speaker 14: It has been tossed around quite a bit. And you know,
Speaker 14: I've interviewed people. There was one man I interviewed for
Speaker 14: that article that you're referencing who has been.
Speaker 5: Very victimized, very like Docks.
Speaker 14: That's another technique besides actual violence, to try to shut
Speaker 14: people down.
Speaker 5: And they wear black clothing. That's another thing.
Speaker 14: You know, although that you know, anybody can wear black, right,
Speaker 14: you might go to a gym and find a bunch
Speaker 14: of people wearing black, but anybody.
Speaker 5: Could wear black. But this is another characteristic.
Speaker 14: They dress in black block, including masks on the face.
Speaker 13: Prior to.
Speaker 14: Even COVID, you know, they used to wear masks to
Speaker 14: make themselves anonymous. So there was a gentleman who was
Speaker 14: telling me about these techniques that he's observed over and
Speaker 14: over again, and it makes them hard to identify.
Speaker 5: So if you're attacked.
Speaker 14: By a black block as they call it vloc, you
Speaker 14: can't go, oh, that's the guy that hit me over
Speaker 14: the head with a pipe.
Speaker 5: You just can't identify these people.
Speaker 2: So that was.
Speaker 5: Another thing that I found. And they docs.
Speaker 14: People, meaning they take your personal information, they'll put it
Speaker 14: out there and they'll label you.
Speaker 5: As anti gay, and they'll tag.
Speaker 14: Your employer, and they will maybe even go after your
Speaker 14: family members, show up at your you know, places you're
Speaker 14: known to hang out, and just lots of different ways
Speaker 14: to intimidate people into a feeling that it's no longer
Speaker 14: worth coming out and sharing whatever your political view is.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm assuming, based on what you've said and based
Speaker 1: on what I read in your articles, that there is
Speaker 1: no identifiable leader or really even any structure for Antifa.
Speaker 1: Is that an accurate statement from what I understand?
Speaker 5: Yes, although there is a one network that.
Speaker 14: Does have at least seven identified active members. You can
Speaker 14: go on the Internet and search for Torch Antifa network
Speaker 14: and it has seven active chapters there.
Speaker 5: And actually I'm told that that's by.
Speaker 14: Design that the analogy given to me by one of
Speaker 14: the people I interviewed was, you know, it's not like that,
Speaker 14: you know, the mafia or a drug cartel is going
Speaker 14: to have an organizational chart like the typical corporation would.
Speaker 14: You wouldn't have that out there because it's a way
Speaker 14: to give, you know, guideposts to people who might seek
Speaker 14: to authorities who might seek to be charging you criminally
Speaker 14: for these activities.
Speaker 5: And so you know, whenever there's been an org chart
Speaker 5: of for example, the mafia.
Speaker 14: That tends to be something that the authority is put
Speaker 14: together after investigating. So we don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 14: It may be as loose as described, it may be
Speaker 14: more organized than described. But one of the biggest things
Speaker 14: that cash Puttel, the FBI director, said is that he
Speaker 14: is following the money because quote, money never lies.
Speaker 1: He said, I saw that in your article, and that
Speaker 1: leads me into what I was going to ask you later,
Speaker 1: but I'll ask it now. Any idea who is funding
Speaker 1: this group? Now, the logical suspect would be George Soros.
Speaker 1: I guess his son's taken over his communist stuff now,
Speaker 1: But we're able to get any kind of clue or
Speaker 1: lead into who's spending money on this thing, because I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was in your article, but somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You know, they show up to these rallies, these protests
Speaker 1: with handmade not handmade, but pre made signs that look
Speaker 1: like they were professionally done. Somebody's somebody's bank rolling them.
Speaker 1: Anything on that Janus.
Speaker 14: Well, there are videos that actually show equipment such as
Speaker 14: you know, masks or maybe even weapons, different things being
Speaker 14: handed out from like vans. So again, there is something
Speaker 14: afoot here that part of it I don't know a
Speaker 14: lot about. I do know that the authorities are looking
Speaker 14: into this, The FBI, all the different agencies of the
Speaker 14: federal government are investigating the funding aspect, and I've read
Speaker 14: some things about it, But right now I don't have
Speaker 14: a deep knowledge on that yet, and I don't think
Speaker 14: most people are.
Speaker 5: Very few people would at this point.
Speaker 14: It's something that there's just a dawning awareness of, and
Speaker 14: more and more investigation is going to be coming forth,
Speaker 14: I think. So we'll see what happens, and we'll see
Speaker 14: whether you know, it really is as quote unquote not
Speaker 14: organized as they say, or whether it's more organized than
Speaker 14: they are purporting.
Speaker 1: It's really perplexing. I mean, and obviously the president is
Speaker 1: put as a high priority, and that's obviously a good thing.
Speaker 1: But boy, I'll tell you what, it's really sketchy. Wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you. There's a guy that you interviewed, I
Speaker 1: think for both of your articles. But Andy, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably screw this up, ngo nego am I saying that? Right?
Speaker 5: Janis if Andy know?
Speaker 14: And actually I incorporated into my story an interview he
Speaker 14: did with one of my colleagues.
Speaker 5: Sometimes we do that to help each other out.
Speaker 14: But so I didn't speak with him directly, although I've
Speaker 14: been in contact with him on social media. And that
Speaker 14: particular journalist was attacked viciously and almost died of a
Speaker 14: brain game in twenty nineteen, and he describes in his book,
Speaker 14: which I did read for this article, how you know,
Speaker 14: he was hit very hard in the back of his head.
Speaker 14: He naively thought maybe it was an accident, and he
Speaker 14: turns around and then suddenly he's surrounded by what he
Speaker 14: calls what they call the black Block, an anonymous mob
Speaker 14: of black clad people just beating the pulp out of
Speaker 14: this guy.
Speaker 5: And he shows up at.
Speaker 14: The hospital with a brain bleed and then to humiliate him.
Speaker 5: They threw like I guess, milkshaits on him.
Speaker 14: There's even a picture in my article that shows this
Speaker 14: young man just dripping with this white colored liquid. Just
Speaker 14: again it's a humiliation tactic. And you know, they targeted
Speaker 14: him and literally he said, all he was doing was
Speaker 14: filming with his iPhone.
Speaker 5: He wasn't bothering anybody.
Speaker 14: I don't think he was even necessarily talking to anybody
Speaker 14: at the moment, hit from behind and almost died.
Speaker 5: He's because he was just pummeled.
Speaker 1: He's a journalist, didn't he Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 5: An independent journalist at the time. He's not affiliated with
Speaker 5: like a couple of.
Speaker 14: Organizations, I believe, and has written this book that has been.
Speaker 5: A best seller.
Speaker 14: He actually had to leave the country because he has
Speaker 14: been so so attacked. In his last name No and
Speaker 14: Geo is a Vietnamese name, and he says in his
Speaker 14: book and in interviews I've seen with him where he
Speaker 14: loves this country. His parents escaped communist regime in Vietnam,
Speaker 14: and that's why he felt so passionate about bringing to
Speaker 14: light what these people are doing. And you know, not
Speaker 14: all of them are communists, and he says they're purposely
Speaker 14: hard to define. They're purposely you know, it helps make
Speaker 14: it harder to identify who they are. It makes it
Speaker 14: harder to maybe even press charges. It's just it's done
Speaker 14: by design to be kind of vague.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and boy, I tell you that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that is kind of consistent through it. They are vague.
Speaker 1: And in your article, I forget which one. And this
Speaker 1: is pretty incredible, but doesn't surprise me. Former FBI Director
Speaker 1: Christopher Ray called Antifa quote an ideology rather than quote
Speaker 1: an organization. I get it that they're sketchy, but when
Speaker 1: the top law enforcement off Sir makes that determination based
Speaker 1: on nothing, just tells me that, at least under him,
Speaker 1: they weren't taking it seriously. It certainly seems like Cash
Speaker 1: Battel and President Trump and you know, the whole Department
Speaker 1: of Justice are taking it seriously. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 14: Well, they have made no bones about it. In fact,
Speaker 14: in his executive order designating Antifa a domestic terrorist organization
Speaker 14: and also in a related.
Speaker 5: Memo, President Trump comes out and.
Speaker 14: Tells all the various aspects of the national security apparatus.
Speaker 5: The FBI, even the.
Speaker 14: IRS, all of these different agencies, the Treasury, department, on
Speaker 14: and on. He is issuing directives to fully investigate and
Speaker 14: root out whatever structure does exist and whatever funding does exist,
Speaker 14: and make it a high NAP. I think he said
Speaker 14: the word top national priority in either the memo or
Speaker 14: the executive order.
Speaker 5: I don't remember which.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you it's obviously needed. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: stay on this? I sure hope so.
Speaker 5: Actually I have been told to do that.
Speaker 14: So it seems like, you know, this is gonna be
Speaker 14: my next area of concentration. And I've got to say,
Speaker 14: it's uh. When you dig into this, it the murkiness
Speaker 14: of the whole thing becomes even more apparent to you.
Speaker 5: It's just it was a vague thing for.
Speaker 14: Me, and now it's become specifically vague, if that makes
Speaker 14: any sense.
Speaker 5: Now I understand that it's purpose.
Speaker 14: They try to be vague about it, and it can't
Speaker 14: attract anybody.
Speaker 5: And the sad part is anybody.
Speaker 14: Can be a target, literally, anybody who opposes them like
Speaker 14: that that one quote, That's why I've told that quote
Speaker 14: from the book. Anybody can be labeled a fascist. And
Speaker 14: what a horrible thing to say about a person, same
Speaker 14: thing as the word racist exactly, you know.
Speaker 1: It's tossed around so much that it virtually has no
Speaker 1: meaning anymore.
Speaker 14: And I don't think a lot of people even know
Speaker 14: what the word fascist means, if they're being truthful, because
Speaker 14: even the people, even the guy who wrote the book
Speaker 14: that was pro antifa, said fascism is hard to define.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess growing up and learning about this
Speaker 1: stuff in high school, and I always equated fascism with
Speaker 1: Benito Mussolini over in Italy. But it is a word
Speaker 1: that I guess can have any number of meanings whatever
Speaker 1: they want to give it for the day, I suppose,
Speaker 1: but really appreciate you talk to us about this, Janus,
Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Mike is always a pleasure. Thank you so much
Speaker 5: for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you all right, Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times.
Speaker 1: If you have time and you are so inclined, man,
Speaker 1: go read these articles. They're kind of like one right
Speaker 1: on top of the other. The longer one antifat communist roots,
Speaker 1: violent tactics and terror designation, and the other on FBI
Speaker 1: other agencies ramp up antifa probe and boy, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what that is so needed, and that is something
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, there is no way in
Speaker 1: God's green earth that they would have done anything similar
Speaker 1: to that. Anyway, we got to take a break, but
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Mike Allen Saturday. Hey, we're back, Mike
Speaker 1: Allen Saturday midday. We put out an all points bulletin
Speaker 1: for Christopher Smoothman. I have in a little trouble locating
Speaker 1: him today, but if I know him, he'll call. He's
Speaker 1: probably busy on his campaign, but gives me an opportunity
Speaker 1: to say. Just as I'm sitting here, I heard our
Speaker 1: newscast talking about a person was apprehended on a drive
Speaker 1: by shooting that happened downtown course in the three hundred
Speaker 1: block of Sycamore Street. Well, anyway, they talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: apprehending the guy and somebody I assume it as a
Speaker 1: police they wanted to or they acknowledged help from the
Speaker 1: Hamilton County Probation Department Field office. They have these different
Speaker 1: probation substations throughout the county where you know, the probation
Speaker 1: officers are a little bit closer to the action to
Speaker 1: the people. Without question, everyone has said that it's a
Speaker 1: good idea. Well, the judges don't think so apparently. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they voted on it or not, but
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Fox nineteen article dated September third, and
Speaker 1: they talk about they're going to have a vote on
Speaker 1: whether to get rid of them or not. I said
Speaker 1: it at the time, and I'll say it again. There
Speaker 1: is absolutely no reason whatsoever to get rid of the
Speaker 1: pro bation field offices. And you just heard it. They
Speaker 1: were helpful, apparently, and apprehending this dude in a drive
Speaker 1: by shooting on Sycamore Street. So anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to point that out. We have Christopher Smithman on the line,
Speaker 1: I believe, Hey.
Speaker 2: Christopher, Hey Mike, how are you doing this morning? Of course,
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you about the substations, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: the locations of where they were located, and then even
Speaker 2: how it all went down, you know, kind of like
Speaker 2: the in the Dark, the Republican judges were locked out,
Speaker 2: and you know, this decision was made to close them,
Speaker 2: and it kind of broadsided most of the judges down there.
Speaker 2: So I don't know even why that decision was.
Speaker 1: Made, but it was made because what I've got here
Speaker 1: in front of me, I had to scramble. I just
Speaker 1: have an article that says they're going to vote on Thursday,
Speaker 1: so I assume they voted to get rid of them,
Speaker 1: which is one of the stupid But it's things I've
Speaker 1: ever heard of.
Speaker 2: Absolutely it was, And what it does is it just
Speaker 2: continues to undermine, you know.
Speaker 8: Public services.
Speaker 1: Yep, you know.
Speaker 2: It feels like a drum beat, Mike Allen. Where every
Speaker 2: time we turn around, there are people that are doing
Speaker 2: things that are supporting criminals and not the priority of
Speaker 2: protecting law abid the citizens. And I think we're seeing
Speaker 2: that kind of trend, and I'm not exaggerating all across
Speaker 2: the United States of America. So why would you shut
Speaker 2: something down that's working.
Speaker 1: I don't never make sense. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to be able to ask those judges who
Speaker 1: voted for doing that, what were there reasons, or you know,
Speaker 1: if there are reasons that are written down somewhere, it's
Speaker 1: probably public record. But it's just the debacle. When I
Speaker 1: heard that Christopher on the newscast right before I started
Speaker 1: talking to you, I thought, wait a minute, we talked
Speaker 1: about that on this show a while back. But anyway,
Speaker 1: getting down to the main issue, here. You know, crime
Speaker 1: continues to kind of run rampant in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We've got that shooting that we just talked about three
Speaker 1: hundred block of Sycamore Street. Then you've got, of course
Speaker 1: the shootout at the Ok Corral down there on the
Speaker 1: Fountain Square, and now it looks like the blame is
Speaker 1: going to be heaped on our police chief. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on all of that, Christopher.
Speaker 2: Well, crime is on the ballot. I can tell you
Speaker 2: no matter where we walk and whatever door we talk to,
Speaker 2: whether and I'm going to name some of these neighborhoods
Speaker 2: that we've been in. So whether it's Bond Hill, Rolls
Speaker 2: on our Evingston or Kennedy Heights, the message is the
Speaker 2: same from Grandma, Grandpa, those middle aged people that have
Speaker 2: raised their children, they paid off their house, equity in
Speaker 2: their home is their number one investment, and they're concerned
Speaker 2: about coming out of their house and being robbed. And
Speaker 2: so whether we were there, or whether we were in
Speaker 2: Hyde Park or Mount lookout Right, or whether we were
Speaker 2: in Westwood or Price Hill, the message is the same.
Speaker 2: Crime is the number one issue that people are concerned about. Mike, Yes,
Speaker 2: And what has happened is the mayor's drum beat is perception, perception,
Speaker 2: it's not your reality. Right, And then we turn on
Speaker 2: the TV. I'm gonna show you where I'm going with
Speaker 2: my logic. Here is we see a shootout on two
Speaker 2: occasions right around our core Fountain Square, one off the
Speaker 2: Fountain Square, one on the Fountain Square right. And then
Speaker 2: you see the going to your question. Here you see
Speaker 2: the mayor who has said it's our perception crime is down,
Speaker 2: make the decision to fire the police chief right before
Speaker 2: the election. While he's telling her you're doing a great job,
Speaker 2: meaning if crime is down, you're in the campaign in
Speaker 2: both debates and you're going after your opponent, Corey Bowman
Speaker 2: saying you really don't know what you're talking about. Crime
Speaker 2: is really down. Our stats are telling that. That meant
Speaker 2: that the person who was at the top, which is
Speaker 2: our chief, Chief Fiji, from his perspective, was doing a
Speaker 2: great job. Why would you be terminating her at this
Speaker 2: time right before an election? Number two, just from a
Speaker 2: humanity perspective, and I just want to say this to
Speaker 2: Chief Fiji, who I hope is listening, and I hope
Speaker 2: that her family that they're listening to Neville family. This
Speaker 2: is a family that has dedicated their life to law
Speaker 2: enforcement like like no other family. Almost I'm exaggerating, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great It's a wonderful family.
Speaker 1: Christopher. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I want
Speaker 1: to speak to that too, because you are so so right,
Speaker 1: all of them going back to their father, Gary Neville,
Speaker 1: who was a great guy. But anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that came in.
Speaker 15: No.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's important because he's he's crapping
Speaker 2: on a family that's given their life to the city
Speaker 2: right in this area area of law enforcement, and you're
Speaker 2: acting like she's trash. And so what really blows my
Speaker 2: mind is they'd call her back from a chiefs conference,
Speaker 2: meaning she's in Denver at conference. Why wouldn't you wait
Speaker 2: until she got back to have this discussion. You call
Speaker 2: her back like you're the principal and she's being called
Speaker 2: to the principal's office. She's around all of her peers.
Speaker 2: It had to be incredibly embarrassing for her. Why would
Speaker 2: you treat a family that's given so much? And I'm
Speaker 2: I'm gonna answer that question. It's not rhetorical. It's because
Speaker 2: this mayorage from Dayton. This mayor doesn't understand the Neville family.
Speaker 2: He doesn't understand what he has done. He doesn't understand
Speaker 2: the west side of town. And even if people were
Speaker 2: questioning how the chief was doing the job, they would
Speaker 2: never on the west side want her treated the way
Speaker 2: she's being treated. And if he was from Cincinnati, if
Speaker 2: he had gone to a high school in Cincinnati, he
Speaker 2: would understand those details. So this is going to hurt
Speaker 2: him in the upcoming election on the west side of town.
Speaker 2: And I want to you know, westsiders are loyal. Again.
Speaker 2: They might have been saying, they might have been saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we're concerned about the direction that the chief was going in,
Speaker 2: but there's no way they want to treated the way
Speaker 2: this mayor and this manager is treating Chief Fiji. At
Speaker 2: our end by saying this, she was only doing what
Speaker 2: she was directed to do by the mayor, by the
Speaker 2: city manager, and by Irish rolling meanings. They have a
Speaker 2: consultant in there that is telling her be soft on crime.
Speaker 2: We're worried about the babies. We got to do the
Speaker 2: collaborative agreement as if as if we're under federal oversight,
Speaker 2: and that is in conflict with doing proactive policing, which
Speaker 2: it is not, meaning we have to do proactive policing
Speaker 2: while we're doing community based policing. Unfortunately, they pushed the
Speaker 2: chief into that corner because the manager had the power
Speaker 2: to fire her. Now she's hired one of the most
Speaker 2: prominent attorneys, Chris his law firm. Yes, he is no joke.
Speaker 2: A lot of people do not understand that she is
Speaker 2: going to get paid a lot of money, just like
Speaker 2: Chief Washington, the fire chief Cool they also fired in
Speaker 2: the most grotesque way.
Speaker 9: Both of these Both of these.
Speaker 2: Stories tell you, in my opinion, Mike Allen, how dysfunctional
Speaker 2: city Hall is that they're not able to manage the
Speaker 2: basic personnel of our city.
Speaker 1: Yep, you are so right about that, Christopher. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you and I talked about this. There was
Speaker 1: a thing called City Issue five. I'm thinking it was
Speaker 1: twenty something years ago. What it was before the Issue five,
Speaker 1: the chief of police had civil service protection and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a deal where you know, the mayor can pick
Speaker 1: up the phone and say Chief, I want you to
Speaker 1: do this, this and this. Now I know they tried
Speaker 1: to do that during that time, and the chief just
Speaker 1: kind of said, go to hell. Well, with the passage
Speaker 1: of Issue five, that was gone, and instead of being
Speaker 1: a law enforcement official, she becomes a law for law
Speaker 1: enforcement official and a political actor. And I just wonder
Speaker 1: if there'd be any any interest in anyone taking another
Speaker 1: look at that and perhaps reversing it, because I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, if that were still in place, that
Speaker 1: the chief had the civil service protection, we wouldn't be
Speaker 1: talking about her getting drummed out.
Speaker 2: Now. First, Mike Allen, you're right on point, and there
Speaker 2: are great parts to Issue five, So let me say
Speaker 2: that from my perspective, But I think this is a
Speaker 2: great opportunity for us to revisit Issue five, which is
Speaker 2: what I hear you say, because it is personality driven.
Speaker 8: If you get a great mayor.
Speaker 2: In there, like a Charlie Luken or a John Cranley
Speaker 2: as an example, right, and I'm gonna have some fun
Speaker 2: with you like a Christopher Smitherman, You're not gonna have something.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have somebody who's try to undermine law enforcement. Okay, However,
Speaker 2: what I here's the penicillin that I plan to put forward.
Speaker 2: So you brought a problem, I'm going to share with you.
Speaker 2: What I think the solution is. What I want to
Speaker 2: do is bring a constitutional amendment, Charter amendment to Issue
Speaker 2: five that says the mayor, the city manager cannot terminate
Speaker 2: the police chief or fire chief without seven members of council.
Speaker 2: So I want I want just the way we treat
Speaker 2: the city manager. We can't fire the city manager without
Speaker 2: the consent of the Board of Directors the nine members
Speaker 2: of council. I do not want the city manager to
Speaker 2: be able to terminate the fire chief or the police
Speaker 2: chief without the consent of seven members of council, which
Speaker 2: will require a charter amendment, which I plan to lead.
Speaker 2: I think that will clean it up. I don't think
Speaker 2: that this chief right now would not have been called
Speaker 2: back a from a Denvers conference. I also would clean
Speaker 2: up where we have chief watching. That most likely is
Speaker 2: going to cost us one to two to five million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's coming. Chris Finny, his law firm, has warned that lawsuit,
Speaker 2: they've worn, the appeal, they've gotten summary judgment. This is
Speaker 2: just a matter of time before the public cares about
Speaker 2: Chief Washington and how they drug his name through the mud,
Speaker 2: just like they're doing. They're trying to do here with
Speaker 2: Chief Fiji. I've had my questions about how some of
Speaker 2: the decisions that Chief Fiji has made, But it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that I don't support her. It doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: I don't like her. If I saw Chief Fiji right now,
Speaker 2: I give her a big hug, I tell her I
Speaker 2: support you. I do not think they've treated her well here,
Speaker 2: and by the way, she's going to get a great
Speaker 2: severance because of how they've treated her and having her
Speaker 2: come back from Denver. Just anybody out there who's a professional,
Speaker 2: think you're at the greatest professional conference of your life.
Speaker 2: You're around all your peers, and somebody says nationally through
Speaker 2: the newspaper, you got to come back to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: To be fired.
Speaker 2: That had to be humiliating for her, and the Neville
Speaker 2: family didn't deserve that, Like Allen, and I pray to
Speaker 2: God that Westsiders are listening to what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: don't care whether you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, you're
Speaker 2: an independent like me, or you're a charter right. This
Speaker 2: family didn't deserve it. You don't give thirty forty years
Speaker 2: of your life to the city and then have a
Speaker 2: city manager and a mayor, particularly a mayor who's not
Speaker 2: even from Cincinnati, come and treat this family like that.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's just it's horrific to me.
Speaker 1: This whole thing sounds like a scapegoating situation where you know,
Speaker 1: the mayor's well, you know, we didn't get good results
Speaker 1: under this chief, so I spearheaded the effort to get
Speaker 1: rid of the one we have, and it all falls
Speaker 1: on her, and it's just not fair. But anyway, it's
Speaker 1: not fair.
Speaker 2: And by the way, let's remind the public that our
Speaker 2: police department and our fire department is command driven. So
Speaker 2: now what they've also done is they've undermined the police
Speaker 2: department so bad that police officers, as I have this conversation,
Speaker 2: don't know who to take orders from. Yeah, right, because
Speaker 2: they've left this vacuum. And this is what this administration
Speaker 2: does again. It's like taking out the general. And she's
Speaker 2: still the chief, right, But the reality of it is,
Speaker 2: you know that her formal power has been taken from her,
Speaker 2: and now people are trying to figure out, well, who's
Speaker 2: the chief and who do we take orders from? Well,
Speaker 2: guess what that puts everybody's life on the line.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Right, and that's what concerns me that this mayor again,
Speaker 2: who kept telling his opponent, you don't have what experience?
Speaker 2: You don't have experience. He kept saying that, Mike, you
Speaker 2: don't have experience. Guess what. I will take common sense
Speaker 2: over experience any day. And common sense isn't common.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I like that. I never heard that one. Hey,
Speaker 1: we only have a couple minutes left, Christopher, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of maybe get a little kind of
Speaker 1: closing argument from you on voting in the election, because
Speaker 1: early voting is already started.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that that our city will think about
Speaker 2: not voting for nine people for city council. That's so important.
Speaker 2: We have a nine x system. I would only vote
Speaker 2: for four or five people in the field that you want.
Speaker 2: So there might be twenty five or twenty four, twenty
Speaker 2: three candidates that are out here running, Find four or
Speaker 2: five of them you like, and vote for them and stop.
Speaker 2: That makes your ballot more powerful. Number two, I would say,
Speaker 2: think about all the things that are going on right now,
Speaker 2: whether it's whether it's snow removal, potholes, these low level
Speaker 2: things that are important to the daily lives, the quality
Speaker 2: of life, of all fifty two neighborhoods, whether you're talking
Speaker 2: about Hyde Park and the development that went bad there
Speaker 2: because council wasn't listening, including the mayor or, this notion
Speaker 2: of connect communities, this legislation of zoning that really undermined
Speaker 2: all fifty two neighborhoods. Again, council and the mayor weren't listening.
Speaker 2: But crime is the number one issue. We can't do development.
Speaker 2: People can't have home values going higher if we don't
Speaker 2: feel faith. And what I see right now is a
Speaker 2: is a is a council and a mayor who are
Speaker 2: more interested in protecting the criminal elements of our society,
Speaker 2: including our judges, not the prosecutors, and not the cops.
Speaker 2: The cops are arresting, the prosecutors are trying to prosecute,
Speaker 2: and the judges are letting them out. So there's a
Speaker 2: we have a broken system, but we have we have
Speaker 2: a body of nine collectively, not individually collectively, and a
Speaker 2: mayor who have a bigger emphasis on protecting criminals than
Speaker 2: protecting us, the citizens of law by the citizens. And
Speaker 2: there are a lot more of us because the criminals
Speaker 2: are a very very small element. So elect four or
Speaker 2: five people Mike Allen, and my conclusion here that will
Speaker 2: will that will support the police department and our fire department,
Speaker 2: that will not talk about defunding and reimaginating, reimagination of
Speaker 2: our law enforcement and people that can get behind and
Speaker 2: support our officers. Remember the officer who shot the unarmed,
Speaker 2: the officer who shocked the young man running from the
Speaker 2: vehicle from a stolen vehicle, and then the father killing
Speaker 2: the sheriff the next day. We still have not heard
Speaker 2: from council or the mayor. I mean, these things are happening,
Speaker 2: and they're undermining the morale of our police department as
Speaker 2: they're out here just trying to do their job to
Speaker 2: keep us safe. So I'm asking you to vote for Smithlman.
Speaker 2: Give me one of those four or five votes out
Speaker 2: there public. We can change this together. But don't send
Speaker 2: me there by myself. You know, there's a lisz Keeping
Speaker 2: out there running. There's a lind Of Matthews out there running.
Speaker 2: There's a good out there who's running. There's a dree
Speaker 2: House out there running. There's a leader Lakeda Cole out there.
Speaker 2: They're running. They're Democrats, Republicans, Charter Rights, independence that are
Speaker 2: out there running that we can just do better as
Speaker 2: the city. This is not about who Trump is and
Speaker 2: national politics. This election is about us and our safety.
Speaker 2: I think people should vote like their lives.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're out of time, Christopher. I really appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you. People can follow me at vote Smitherman.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Roving, all right, thank you. All right. Hey,
Speaker 1: we do have to take a break for the news,
Speaker 1: but when we get back, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: national politics with independent political analyst Kevin Burton, and we'll
Speaker 1: do that when we get back. Mike Allen, seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday midway our three third and final hour. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked to local politics with Christopher Smithman. Let's talk
Speaker 1: some national politics. What's going on out there, what about
Speaker 1: the congressional battle in the Supreme Court, Trump's biggest win
Speaker 1: in the Mideast This week, we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, who is an independent political analyst. Kevin, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 3: Mike, thanks having me as always my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Okay, Supreme Court and the whole battle over redistricting and
Speaker 1: all that. Where do you see that going and how
Speaker 1: will it affect the races?
Speaker 3: Well? First off, congratulations to all.
Speaker 16: Lawyers on their billable hours number one undefeated.
Speaker 3: Always, so congratulations to all.
Speaker 16: The big firms. It does look like they're going to
Speaker 16: strike down section two.
Speaker 3: Of the voting right back.
Speaker 16: So what that means is essentially that you can reshape
Speaker 16: the maps, but be careful for what you wish for
Speaker 16: is my only thing, because it might help you today,
Speaker 16: but it's.
Speaker 3: Going to hurt you tomorrow.
Speaker 16: And a great example of this is straight ballid voting
Speaker 16: in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Kentucky.
Speaker 16: You know the Democrats many years ago loved straight ballid
Speaker 16: voting tickets. Well, when the tide shifted. Now they can't
Speaker 16: win any elections here. Besides Andy forsheer to be careful
Speaker 16: for what you wish for, in reality it's going to
Speaker 16: gain I really hate both sides because listen, if you
Speaker 16: want to do it after the census like it's always
Speaker 16: been done, it's fair, but you can't pick up the
Speaker 16: ball and change the change.
Speaker 3: The rules in the middle of the game.
Speaker 16: And both sides are doing it California, New.
Speaker 3: York, Texas, now the South.
Speaker 16: Like play the game, you can't change it in the
Speaker 16: middle of the game, but they are. Every every side
Speaker 16: is going to So it's going to be really interesting
Speaker 16: because all these congressional maps. Usually at this time, you
Speaker 16: have a pretty good indicator. What's it's called the cook reports.
Speaker 16: People give like plus five plus seven that basically tells
Speaker 16: you in the last presidential election how much they won
Speaker 16: by you start kind of setting up the maps. Well,
Speaker 16: if they throw out the maps and throw all new maps,
Speaker 16: which it looks like almost every state is going to
Speaker 16: do this, for your consultants and for your candidates, it
Speaker 16: changes everything because you don't know what you're running in.
Speaker 1: When will they finally know something on that and be
Speaker 1: able to intelligently, you know, look at it and make
Speaker 1: predictions that'll come down to the wire. I guess what
Speaker 1: it is too late?
Speaker 16: Well, and that's that's and that is the other question,
Speaker 16: you know. So if the Supreme Court rules sooner than later,
Speaker 16: then it has to go to all the states where
Speaker 16: they have to pass you know, legislation has to pass
Speaker 16: new maps. So I mean it's going to come down
Speaker 16: to the wire. But Let's be real. The only time
Speaker 16: either side really cares is when it affects them. So
Speaker 16: they'll get it done both sides in California and New York, Texas.
Speaker 3: They'll get it done well.
Speaker 16: But it just changes everything from fundraising, sure, the strategy
Speaker 16: because you don't know how they're going to cut it. Listen,
Speaker 16: kerry Mandering has always been a part of the game,
Speaker 16: but it's always after the census. You know, you can't
Speaker 16: pick up your ball and run when you don't like
Speaker 16: the rules. You got to play by them.
Speaker 1: I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. It would
Speaker 1: be nice if we could find some kind of vehicle
Speaker 1: where both sides are happy and we don't have to
Speaker 1: go through this nonsense every ten years. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what that would be, and I'm not optimistic and
Speaker 1: anybody will figure it out.
Speaker 16: No, And what I'm also worried about is the long
Speaker 16: term effects, because now you've kind of set precedents that
Speaker 16: you can just change it whenever you feel like, and the.
Speaker 3: House that is going to become almost more and more.
Speaker 1: Like you know.
Speaker 16: The great thing is is when you have someone from
Speaker 16: a red state or a blue state who's the opposite
Speaker 16: party because it gives you know, it shows you, hey,
Speaker 16: the state is not monolithic. But when with all these changes,
Speaker 16: you're going to have, you know, all states be blue,
Speaker 16: all states be red, and you're going to lose the
Speaker 16: common sense voter, the common since congress person, and we
Speaker 16: need them now more than ever.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I mean, kind of duvetailing
Speaker 1: off that conversation, would you care to venture or make
Speaker 1: any guests on the midterm congressional elections. Republicans going to
Speaker 1: keep the House? Are they going to lose it? And again,
Speaker 1: having said that, knowing that the habit is in the
Speaker 1: history is the party in power in the President's office,
Speaker 1: in the White House always loses.
Speaker 16: What do you think generally, yes, they do lose twenty
Speaker 16: four to twenty five seats. But if you're rearranging the
Speaker 16: whole order, I can't make a production because I don't
Speaker 16: know if California, when they pass it, are they going
Speaker 16: to make every single seat a solid blue? So you know,
Speaker 16: it can't give a prediction right now.
Speaker 1: No, I get it. I get it. Well, it'll make
Speaker 1: election night interesting, I guess. Let me ask you, We're
Speaker 1: still I don't know what day it is. Somebody's keeping
Speaker 1: count maybe day ten, twelve whatever of the government shut down.
Speaker 1: And that's another one, Kevin, You would think that they
Speaker 1: would be able to find a way to not make
Speaker 1: this just so crappy like it is. Now, my question
Speaker 1: to you is who's winning and well, we all, I think,
Speaker 1: are losing on it. But what party is winning on
Speaker 1: that issue? What party is losing and why?
Speaker 3: So that's a very interesting thing. So this is the first.
Speaker 16: Time that we've had a government shut down where all
Speaker 16: three you know, the House, the Senate, and the President
Speaker 16: are all the same. But there was a memo from
Speaker 16: the White House that came out yesterday that's showing that, yes,
Speaker 16: Republicans are still being blamed for the you know, the shutdown,
Speaker 16: but now it's forty four percent to thirty eight percent,
Speaker 16: where you know, Democrats have had their net favorabilities cut
Speaker 16: by seventy eight points. So you know, Romp and his
Speaker 16: team are thinking that if they just keep prolonging.
Speaker 6: This, that the Democrats are going to it's going to get.
Speaker 16: To a break even. And if it's a break even,
Speaker 16: then that's a win for the Republicans because you know,
Speaker 16: this is always about that seven, eight, ten, twelve points,
Speaker 16: And I know, people get tired of polling and all that,
Speaker 16: but that's seven to twelve.
Speaker 3: Points, whatever it is.
Speaker 16: Those are the people who swing elections, and that's who
Speaker 16: you're fighting for right now, if you're trying to fly
Speaker 16: right now. I know TSA is a nightmare, so we'll
Speaker 16: probably change who you would vote for. But you know,
Speaker 16: the government shut down. I mean, I think there's certain
Speaker 16: things that I wish that both sides could be adults
Speaker 16: and be like, you know, we need TSA. We don't
Speaker 16: want another tragedy to happen. But that would require them
Speaker 16: to be grown ups, and they're not going to do it.
Speaker 1: That ain't going to happen. I'm looking here at the
Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics average of polls. Democratic party favorability unfavorable,
Speaker 1: twenty six no way mate favorability is thirty three percent
Speaker 1: thirty three six percent favorable, fifty nine point eight percent unfavorable.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen numbers uh that low for a
Speaker 1: political party with.
Speaker 16: A question such as this, I mean, I guess the
Speaker 16: only other time you could probably say this was daring
Speaker 16: uh W in the House in Crisis of two thousand
Speaker 16: and eight. You know, Democrats, and we've talked about this
Speaker 16: before in your show. They are just so aimless because
Speaker 16: they built their whole party on this guy sucks vote
Speaker 16: for me instead of what do you stand for? You know,
Speaker 16: Mindannie AOC may not like their politics, but you know
Speaker 16: what they stand for, and that's what voters want now.
Speaker 16: They want authenticity, even if they disagree with you. They
Speaker 16: want someone who's authentic, and Trump has brought that to politics.
Speaker 16: And frankly, you know, they're kind of going through what
Speaker 16: Republicans went through a decade ago. You have Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 16: who was so clueless, out of touch leading the party,
Speaker 16: and you know, you're kind of seeing this wave that
Speaker 16: it's coming, regardless if they wanted or not, but the
Speaker 16: establishment is going to be pushed out. I mean, you know,
Speaker 16: no prime example that's better in Maine, where there's this upstart.
Speaker 3: Planter guy who's a oyster person who's.
Speaker 16: You know, gone really viral, and who do they get
Speaker 16: a seventy seven year old governor to run in a
Speaker 16: primary against him? You know, Democrats are just literally doing
Speaker 16: exactly what Republicans did before twenty sixteen, and it's a
Speaker 16: battle for essentially the soul of the party. And frankly,
Speaker 16: it's kind of like bonding them out for an NBA team.
Speaker 16: They need to tank, clean house and then bring someone
Speaker 16: else then because their favorabilities are terrible.
Speaker 1: No, I hear you, Hey, I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: this to Trump's big win earlier in the week at
Speaker 1: the Mid East peace deal. In my humble opinion, whether
Speaker 1: you like the man or not, a huge deal and
Speaker 1: getting political about it something that in my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of others, there is no way on
Speaker 1: God's green earth Joe Biden or Kamala Harris could have
Speaker 1: pulled that off. But my question is how does that
Speaker 1: and it's personal to Trump, but how does that affect
Speaker 1: that the favorability of the party's potentially affect the midterms?
Speaker 1: I'm guessing not a lot. How does it affect a
Speaker 1: political climate? I guess is the question?
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, there's a lot of So. First off, you know,
Speaker 16: Joe Biden and them did have a proposal ten months ago.
Speaker 16: It was very similar to this. It didn't go anywhere,
Speaker 16: but Trump did get it through, and regardless of what
Speaker 16: you think of him, this.
Speaker 3: Is his biggest win. Sure it is.
Speaker 16: Now the question is will this actually hold? That is
Speaker 16: a question that is beyond every single person no one knows,
Speaker 16: but it is a major win. I mean, regardless of
Speaker 16: what you think of him, you know, I know he's
Speaker 16: been campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not a
Speaker 16: kid's trophy at a soccer team.
Speaker 3: But if this.
Speaker 16: Holds, he should get it next year. He should if
Speaker 16: if there are no more deaths, he should get the
Speaker 16: Nobel Peace Prize period.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. I know he didn't
Speaker 1: get it this year, but the person who did get
Speaker 1: it was from a South American country who she dedicated
Speaker 1: it to Trump, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 16: Like, listen, if this holds there's no more killing, yes, like,
Speaker 16: regardless of what you think of him. And it's really
Speaker 16: ironic that his term this time, his foreign policy is
Speaker 16: actually viewed higher than his economic policy. Why it's the
Speaker 16: complete inverse of his first term. His domestic policies are
Speaker 16: actually underwater. Why his you know, foreign policy is actually
Speaker 16: viewed people are very helped, you know, very happy with it.
Speaker 16: Instead of Teddy Roosevelt, you know, walks off to carry
Speaker 16: a big stick. Trump is chewing gum, yelling and carrying
Speaker 16: a big stick.
Speaker 6: He's getting it done. But I understand what you're saying
Speaker 6: there is there is a peace policy. Regardless of what
Speaker 6: you think of him, the peace policy is there. He
Speaker 6: got NATO to spend five percent. He's helping Ukraine. So
Speaker 6: like all the complaints of his foreign policy, like you
Speaker 6: might not like the way it's done, but you gotta
Speaker 6: tip the cap.
Speaker 1: Yep, no question done. Hey, I gotta ask if Shared
Speaker 1: Brown versus Vivek Ramaswami, I couldn't find any polling on that.
Speaker 1: I gotta think Vivek is quite a bit ahead your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that to share and have any chance at
Speaker 1: all pulling that off.
Speaker 16: Well, Shared's running for Senate. That's not against not against
Speaker 16: the back, you know, share it against heus said it
Speaker 16: will be very interesting two three or politicians. So what
Speaker 16: Bernie Marino was really able to do the last time
Speaker 16: was basically say share it. You've been a career politician
Speaker 16: your whole life. Well, John Heathstaid's the exact same thing.
Speaker 16: So you're gonna take away that kind of key element.
Speaker 16: So it's gonna be a dog fight for back. I mean,
Speaker 16: he's walking into.
Speaker 3: The governor's office.
Speaker 16: There's not really much debate about that.
Speaker 1: Does it look like the Democratic candidate is going to
Speaker 1: be Amy acting, so.
Speaker 16: There, you know, so Amy props to her her team.
Speaker 3: They've been working very very hard.
Speaker 16: Tim Ryan, who has ran I don't know how many times,
Speaker 16: is looking like he might jump back in, which it's
Speaker 16: kind of a perfect encapsulation of the Democratic Party right
Speaker 16: now that you have someone who's a fresh blood new
Speaker 16: in that and then someone oldys jumping back in.
Speaker 3: Right, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 16: I mean, besides, Ted Strickland went with the last time
Speaker 16: Ohio elected a Democratic governor I think.
Speaker 3: Which was before my time.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: So, And you know, it's just interesting because.
Speaker 16: Governors races, voters vote different, and like you look at
Speaker 16: a state like Kentucky where they've only had three Republican
Speaker 16: governors since World War Two, governor races are different. So
Speaker 16: you know that's gonna win. But on the Senate race,
Speaker 16: it's gonna be I would say, he said, the little
Speaker 16: favorability is more favorite to win because of the state's
Speaker 16: demographic Sure, but it is a midterm year and Sherry Brown,
Speaker 16: you know what is he like seventeen and one running
Speaker 16: elections something like that, So.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a yeah, it's gonna be a dogfight.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. We've got a couple of questions,
Speaker 1: laffed city council election day coming up, lots of things
Speaker 1: going on the city, mostly with respect to crime. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I kind of think this
Speaker 1: is a year that perhaps strong independence like a Christopher
Speaker 1: Smithman or you know, uh, someone else who's out there
Speaker 1: working that hard and you know, everything on the table.
Speaker 1: Christopher's a friend, but do you think that he's got
Speaker 1: a shot at punching through? And about the mayor's race,
Speaker 1: I mean, is is the mayor pure of all gonna
Speaker 1: win that thing?
Speaker 16: Yes, Thatshab's gonna win. Last regard, he's gonna win by
Speaker 16: fifteen twenty points. The numbers are what the numbers are.
Speaker 16: I mean, you guys got to remember that Harris won
Speaker 16: the city of Cincinnati basically sixty five to thirty five.
Speaker 16: So there's only like twenty five percent registered like Republicans,
Speaker 16: and so all the Republicans who used to live in
Speaker 16: Cincinnati has moved to either northern Kentucky or the subs,
Speaker 16: which has made those areas rider, but has made the
Speaker 16: city bluer now.
Speaker 3: To Smitherman's point.
Speaker 16: Smother Man has a track record in the Trump era
Speaker 16: of being the only candidate to punch through the blue
Speaker 16: wall right in twenty seventeen. One thing that Democrats have
Speaker 16: to kind of worry about is there's lots of like
Speaker 16: legacy names running this time, right. So you have a
Speaker 16: smither Man, you have a Keyting, you have a dree House,
Speaker 16: you have a Mallory running right. So when people go
Speaker 16: to vote, they're going to see those names.
Speaker 3: And it's not that.
Speaker 16: They're not going to vote for all Democrats, but they're
Speaker 16: going to see those legacy names and be like, well,
Speaker 16: these are some Democrats.
Speaker 3: Maybe I want to vote for them and not be endorsed.
Speaker 16: So I think it's very possible and probably probable that
Speaker 16: you're going to see seven to eight Democrats of the
Speaker 16: Hamilton County Democratic Party, people who are already on council
Speaker 16: get re elected.
Speaker 3: But I think smither And.
Speaker 16: If I was a betting man, I think some other
Speaker 16: men's going to pull through. I think the Keating is
Speaker 16: going to be very fascinating. She's the one who I'm
Speaker 16: going to watch a lot, because you know, she.
Speaker 3: Finished just outside the bubble a light time.
Speaker 16: But it'll be really you know, the machines that are
Speaker 16: in play, they do a really good job of turning
Speaker 16: out their voters. And for a city election, it's so
Speaker 16: low of a turnout it just is well, I guess
Speaker 16: you want to look at like fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: Sure bottom line as we shall see. Kevin, hope we
Speaker 1: can call on you before the election. That really appreciates
Speaker 1: you spending time with us.
Speaker 3: Mike, thank you as always.
Speaker 1: Okay, my friend, thank you all right. That is independent
Speaker 1: political analyst Kevin Burton, always good to get his thoughts
Speaker 1: on things. Hey, the next segment here from eleven thirty
Speaker 1: to noon, no guests. So lines are ope and seven
Speaker 1: four nine seven. The big one are the numbers. If
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of.
Speaker 3: It, visualization your wallet, stuff to the bridge.
Speaker 1: We got some people want to be heard. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. But I have to
Speaker 1: mention this last night and I didn't watch the game.
Speaker 1: I thought about it. Dodgers versus Brewers. Winner goes to
Speaker 1: the World Series, loser goes home. The Dodgers won. That's
Speaker 1: not the big deal. Show. Hey, O'tani put on a
Speaker 1: show that I don't think baseball has ever seen before. Well,
Speaker 1: he actually did set a record. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they'll ever see it again. Of course, he goes both ways.
Speaker 1: He pitches, and he bats three home runs, and then
Speaker 1: his pitching, he goes six innings, gives up two hits,
Speaker 1: gets ten strikeouts. So, like I said, Dodgers go to
Speaker 1: the World Series, the Brewers go home. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I like baseball and I follow it. If anyone would
Speaker 1: have ever asked me before Otani if they thought somebody
Speaker 1: could pull that off, I'd say, you're crazy, you know,
Speaker 1: just for the heck of it too, Babe. Ruth pitched
Speaker 1: for I don't know, probably about four years, beginning his
Speaker 1: baseball career with the Red Sox. Of course, he got
Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees. I just looked just to see
Speaker 1: if there be anything even close to that. He had
Speaker 1: a ninety four and ninety four wins forty two losses
Speaker 1: record pitching. But when he got to the Yankees, maybe
Speaker 1: he'd pitch once or twice a year. But my goodness,
Speaker 1: what Otani did last night, I really so much wish
Speaker 1: I would have watched that, because that would have been exciting.
Speaker 1: He's in a class all of his own. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think anybody would have thought
Speaker 1: that would have happened. Okay, let's get back to the phones.
Speaker 1: Let me talked to Tim in Florence. Hey, good morning, Tim.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 12: What you got Well, I just want to bring up
Speaker 12: one issue we discussed before about Kruse chefs sit in
Speaker 12: and take the country over and never fire a shot
Speaker 12: because it strive from with him. Yes, which that's pretty
Speaker 12: much what we have today, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. I'd have to say
Speaker 1: a very good chance of it.
Speaker 12: Because I have one other point he wanted to make. Yeah,
Speaker 12: Liberals or Democrats are like hostridges. They stick their head
Speaker 12: in the sand, sort of oblivissed everything around them, and
Speaker 12: then our party puts it for the sundone shot on them,
Speaker 12: if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I do, Tim. I appreciate the call. Thank you, have
Speaker 1: a great day, you too. Thanks. You know his point
Speaker 1: about and I didn't know that. Yeah, Kruse chefs said it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to take you over without firing
Speaker 1: a shot. I well, the Soviet Union's not going to
Speaker 1: take us over. They're out the program, they're gone. But
Speaker 1: the left, I mean the strides that they've made, the
Speaker 1: advances they've made in the entertainment industry in social media.
Speaker 1: Then of course that the sewer, the cesspool that is
Speaker 1: today's modern college campus. You got to wonder if some
Speaker 1: of that might be playing out at some point. Okay,
Speaker 1: who's been on the longest. Let me talk to Louise
Speaker 1: and Marie mont. Hey, good morning, Louis.
Speaker 15: Hi Mike, Louise here again. Yes, I just want to
Speaker 15: touch on several points of the maid during this program.
Speaker 15: First of all, Mike, I was always perplexed during the
Speaker 15: past few years about why all of a sudden our
Speaker 15: country is anti israel I mean, and then when you
Speaker 15: see the pulling from New York that even the Jewish
Speaker 15: people are going to vote for this guy up there.
Speaker 15: I don't even want to say his name, right, So
Speaker 15: it hit me, Mike, It finally hit me.
Speaker 1: The change is.
Speaker 15: Because Trump derangement syndrome. If Trump was pro Muslim, they
Speaker 15: would be on the reverse side. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 15: the Jewish people have always been held in high esteem
Speaker 15: and finance in Hollywood everywhere, and now the tide has changed,
Speaker 15: and that I believe it's now because of Trump's position
Speaker 15: of being pro Israeli and then these college campus Mike,
Speaker 15: first of all, these are paid people. I mean I
Speaker 15: confront an Antifa years ago before I even knew what
Speaker 15: they were down the Fountain Square. They are all these college,
Speaker 15: good looking kids that are paid. I confront of them,
Speaker 15: I made a lift of the mask up. It's all
Speaker 15: about Trump. They're the opposite of Trump. And when it
Speaker 15: hit me this week is when that idiot George Clooney
Speaker 15: and his most Lebanese wife decided to leave the country.
Speaker 15: Amen on that she's a Muslim and what bothers me here, Mike,
Speaker 15: and I don't want to sound like approved. I am
Speaker 15: an old lady the Muslims. If these people are really
Speaker 15: pro Muslim, why are they all dressing like I don't
Speaker 15: know if I could say hook on the line, but
Speaker 15: I am the women dress them modestly, including George Clooney's wife,
Speaker 15: who herself is a Muslim. So if they truly believe
Speaker 15: and what they're supposedly saying they believe, they be modestly dressed.
Speaker 15: I'm not saying they have to wear the whole garb,
Speaker 15: but they wouldn't be dressed so immodestly when they're protesting.
Speaker 1: No, I hear you, hey, Louise, I got a lot
Speaker 1: of calls. I'm gonna respond to your call, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling. Thank you, all right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. She hit the nail on the head there.
Speaker 1: I do not I've said this a million times on
Speaker 1: this show. I do not understand the rise in anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: I understand how it's happening, why it's happening, but it
Speaker 1: is something that in my lifetime, and yeah, we learned,
Speaker 1: I mean even in grade school about the Holocaust, but
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I really don't get it.
Speaker 1: In her point, it's tied into Trump derangement syndrome. There's
Speaker 1: probably something to that, but anti Semitism is not something
Speaker 1: that I thought just about everybody else the United States
Speaker 1: of America would be dealing with in the year twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. It just absolutely floors me. Okay, let's see,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Pete in Whitehall. Hey, Pete, Hey, good.
Speaker 9: Mor sir, hey.
Speaker 17: I wanted to follow up on the awesome mister Smitherman.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he.
Speaker 17: Comment he made, uh that on common sense. A beautiful,
Speaker 17: striking woman told me one day that common sense has
Speaker 17: become a superpower.
Speaker 2: That is that is that is I haven't heard it.
Speaker 17: Better put than that that the left has no shame,
Speaker 17: they have no account of and they have no plan
Speaker 17: to create a better America. It's only tear it down,
Speaker 17: Thank you very much, Mike, okay, program.
Speaker 1: Thanks Pete. Yeah, you know what, And that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, the common sense is at a premium, and
Speaker 1: all the Democrats do is want to tear things down.
Speaker 1: You know, I would challenge someone give me three three
Speaker 1: initiatives that the left slash Democrat Party the same thing
Speaker 1: have tried to get through in the last three years.
Speaker 1: It's nothing other than hate Trump, hate Trump, hate Trump,
Speaker 1: try to obstruct him at every angle. And you know,
Speaker 1: the numbers and the Republican numbers on favorability aren't all
Speaker 1: that hot either, but they're a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: better than the Democrats. So I think he makes some
Speaker 1: good points. And man, you'd like to see some common
Speaker 1: sense come back, but common sense in politics sometimes, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: just don't jibe. Let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Frank.
Speaker 18: Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 10: How you doing.
Speaker 15: Cirtain.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. What you got good? I'm with you.
Speaker 18: First of all, I kicked myself that I didn't watch
Speaker 18: that game put on assistance, saying.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that?
Speaker 18: No, those stats are like something out of a video game,
Speaker 18: and it was just unreal.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 18: So listen real quick. The independent journalists that you had
Speaker 18: on earlier, I'm not sure his name, but he does
Speaker 18: a wonderful job.
Speaker 1: Well, he's not a journalist, he's a political analyst.
Speaker 18: That's just an analyst. Sorry, what's his name, Kevin Burton? Burton, Yeah,
Speaker 18: he does a great job. So he made a point
Speaker 18: that I just want to say, and you agreed with
Speaker 18: him that I just want to like echo and stream
Speaker 18: in the mountaintop, and that is that we need to
Speaker 18: put something in place nationwide or more universal that just
Speaker 18: makes more of a level playing field as far as
Speaker 18: a portunate and drawing of districts. And I think that's something,
Speaker 18: you know, as divisive as the country is, you know,
Speaker 18: talk about polls pulling actually shows for most of the
Speaker 18: major issues, the majority of the country agrees. It's just
Speaker 18: the you know, the the extremes on each side that
Speaker 18: are allowedest I believe, but I think most Americans that's
Speaker 18: something that they would want. Additionally, you know, not to
Speaker 18: go down this rabbit hole but campaign finance and fixing
Speaker 18: that and getting all the dark money bs out of
Speaker 18: politics is another thing that most Americans would agree on.
Speaker 18: So you got two points that probably with bipartisan support,
Speaker 18: you could easily pass a couple of amendments. But it's
Speaker 18: never going to happen. It's never going to happen, and
Speaker 18: it's because politics is as dirty as it is on
Speaker 18: both sides, and it's a shame.
Speaker 1: So it's never it's never been this bad. It really hasn't. Frank,
Speaker 1: it's awful. And I agree with you completely. Oh like
Speaker 1: this budget thing, my god, couldn't they work out a
Speaker 1: procedure where we don't have to go through this? I'm
Speaker 1: not playing the other side on that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 18: It's like both sides of like five year old saying
Speaker 18: I'm gonna hold my breath, like get my way. It's
Speaker 18: it's disgusting, it's it's absurd. So I wish our politicians
Speaker 18: were working more bipartisan fashion because there's a lot of
Speaker 18: major issues that they could get done that could really
Speaker 18: fix the country in positive way. But it's unfortunate that,
Speaker 18: you know, none seem too eager to do that.
Speaker 1: You're so right about that. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 18: Frank, absolutely, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: You have a wonderful weekend, you too, thank you. Oh
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see, let's see. How about Tom in date?
Speaker 1: And Hey Tom, how are you?
Speaker 13: Hey Mike, first time caller. You know, if Amy Act
Speaker 13: is running for governor, she's got an awful lot of
Speaker 13: goall in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, she made
Speaker 13: all the wrong decisions about COVID, you know, making us
Speaker 13: wear masks and shutting down businesses and recommending the genetic
Speaker 13: COVID shot. You know, I don't think she should be
Speaker 13: anywhere near me making decisions for the entire state. Remember
Speaker 13: that was all for a virus that had a survival
Speaker 13: rate of ninety nine point seven percent and an average
Speaker 13: age of death of eighty years old. And she had
Speaker 13: a shut down all of Ohio for that, and you
Speaker 13: know Governor DeWine went right along with her recommendations. So
Speaker 13: it's just terrible. And you know, the COVID shots not
Speaker 13: only that, they've caused a lot of damage amongst people.
Speaker 13: Right side effects. I've been tracking this unusual side effect
Speaker 13: of these white fibrous clots and the balmers and finding
Speaker 13: in corpses for the last four years. I was on
Speaker 13: Gary Jeff Walker show this last Monday talking about it again.
Speaker 13: So just one of to let your audience know that
Speaker 13: this woman should be nowhere near running our state after
Speaker 13: such poor decision making skills and twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Tom, thanks for the call. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: address it. Yeah, I mean, she's not going anywhere. She's
Speaker 1: nobody is going to beat the vag Ramaswami and it
Speaker 1: just st ain't happening. And uh uh, I think that
Speaker 1: you know she's got I think she's got a primary challenge.
Speaker 1: We were talking to mister Burton about that, but now
Speaker 1: I can't recall. Uh there's some other Democrat that I
Speaker 1: think wants to do it. But she or any other
Speaker 1: Democrat for that matter, is not going to beat Ramaswami.
Speaker 1: My goodness, he got out so early on that thing,
Speaker 1: and he's even got two or three unions supporting him,
Speaker 1: So I don't think we need to worry about that.
Speaker 1: How about Mike in Columbus and then Marsha Hey, Mike.
Speaker 11: Hey, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good what you got.
Speaker 11: It's a pleasure to speak with you again after all
Speaker 11: this time. Listening to you, it would be really easy
Speaker 11: to just parrot everything you say because I agree one
Speaker 11: hundred percent, thank you with every perspective you have. I'm i'm,
Speaker 11: i'm I'm a little different topic here, and that's the
Speaker 11: National Guard situation. I'm a little perplexed why with all
Speaker 11: the pushback that we're receiving from the mayors and the
Speaker 11: governors of these cities that have these ridiculous crime rates,
Speaker 11: and who President Trump wishes or has in fact sent
Speaker 11: in guard if they want to bitch and moan about
Speaker 11: this like they are of the opinion. And plus, if
Speaker 11: you agree with me that the majority of people in Chicago,
Speaker 11: or in Tennessee, in Memphis, or wherever it happens to
Speaker 11: be where these crimes, the majority the people want the
Speaker 11: crime eradicated. They don't care how it's done. They are
Speaker 11: fed up with the crime. And you've got these squeaky
Speaker 11: wheels who you know, couch out to the mayors and
Speaker 11: the governors who are going to have this Trump derangement
Speaker 11: syndrome and say we don't want them here, Get them
Speaker 11: the heck out. I say take them out. I say
Speaker 11: get them out. Don't send them into these cities that
Speaker 11: don't want them there. Let the cities go through the
Speaker 11: crime that we expect that they will, okay, and if
Speaker 11: we're not afraid that we're wrong, let them go through
Speaker 11: the crime that they're going to go through. And then
Speaker 11: those people who haven't spoken out, but the silent majority,
Speaker 11: are going to go to the governor and to the
Speaker 11: mayor and say, listen, we're not going to take us anymore.
Speaker 11: We don't care what you do. Bring in the guard,
Speaker 11: and it'll be at that point that we prove the
Speaker 11: point that they needed it all along and that this
Speaker 11: is nothing more than a complicit movement against Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: I don't understand why we're so hell bent on going
Speaker 11: ahead and sending these troops in now. I get that
Speaker 11: the President doesn't want to see any more death and destruction.
Speaker 11: That was true in the Israel as well as the
Speaker 11: Russian conflicts. But at some point you have to say,
Speaker 11: if you're not wanted there, and all we're going to
Speaker 11: do is have these constant rebel causes against us, say
Speaker 11: enough is enough. We ain't going you deal with it,
Speaker 11: have a nice day. Can you explain to me what's
Speaker 11: wrong with that philosophy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to let you go here. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. You know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: makes a good point. I remember in Minneapolis. I guess
Speaker 1: it was during the George Floyd Bryants. My god, that town,
Speaker 1: A good chunk of it was burned down pretty badly.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know. I guess that would
Speaker 1: be one option to say to the cities, you take
Speaker 1: care of your own self here and forget about any
Speaker 1: help from US. I guess my thought is, what kind
Speaker 1: of governor, what kind of mayor, what kind of elected
Speaker 1: official would argue against help with crime? Why would you
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, it's going to directly benefit the
Speaker 1: citizens your constituency. But that's the state of the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party now. They don't want the increased protection. But it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see all this plays out.
Speaker 1: That question, I think is before the Supreme Court, So
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Hey, i'm out of time, Marcia.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for call, and I promise I'll
Speaker 1: get to you next week if you call. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: out of here. But well, first of all, I want
Speaker 1: to thank my excellent producer Liam for keeping me out
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