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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday

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Speaker 1: on a really nice Saturday morning. Well, I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: we got a full show today for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a while. Be here nine to noon. Should be

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Speaker 1: plenty of time to get y'all out in time for

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Speaker 1: the No King's protest. The one down here is small

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Speaker 1: riverfront park. They got one in Claremont County. They got

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Speaker 1: one in northern Kentucky, they got one in Westchester. So

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure y'all get out of there, get done

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Speaker 1: with this thing, so you can go. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: say that with tongue planted firmly in chic and you know,

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Speaker 1: not to get off on this, but I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do they think they accomplish? I mean, really, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, it's performative. It's so

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Speaker 1: they can feel good about out themselves. And they're pretty

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Speaker 1: much all the same. I mean, you know, you get

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Speaker 1: some three hundred pound woman with purple hair and nose

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Speaker 1: rings bitching about Donald Trump. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: what does that accomplish? I don't get it, But you

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Speaker 1: know what, more power to them. It's a free country.

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Speaker 1: We have a first Amendment here, but you're just wasting

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Speaker 1: your time. But sometimes there really is some humor in it,

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Speaker 1: so I guess we'll see on that. But getting down

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Speaker 1: to business here, when as I talk just for a

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Speaker 1: minute about the left's response to the ceasefire that was

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Speaker 1: engineered by President Trump and bb Net and Yahoo mainly

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Speaker 1: Trump though in the Israel Palestine war. Fox News Digital

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Speaker 1: has it's really good, has a great article on this thing.

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Speaker 1: It says, it's titled the Deafening silence of the Free

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Speaker 1: Power Palestine Movement after the Gaza Ceasefire. Now, in a

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Speaker 1: normal world, wouldn't you think that the people that have

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Speaker 1: been complaining the loudest about it would say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know what, it wasn't everything that we wanted it to be,

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Speaker 1: But thank you, President Trump. That stuff don't happen on

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Speaker 1: the left, It just doesn't. They're never wrong about anything.

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Speaker 1: They'll never admit when they are wrong. You know, it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't happen, and it kind of comes from the

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Speaker 1: inherent arrogance of liberalism. But you didn't hear anyone on

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Speaker 1: the left comment about it at all. And of course

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Speaker 1: there's no surprise there, and you know they'll be back,

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Speaker 1: they'll be singing their Peter Paul and Mary songs and

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Speaker 1: bitching about one thing or another. What about the Hollywood

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Speaker 1: b listers who had a field day criticizing Trump. And

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Speaker 1: you know, this week we heard reports that Hamas was

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Speaker 1: executing Palestinian citizens who say they were or they say

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Speaker 1: was assisting Israel. So where is the left complaining about that?

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Speaker 1: And they actually had pictures of that? And does that

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Speaker 1: surprise anyone either? See, that's the thing about this agreement.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a difficult thing to police, but

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to do that. They kill each

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Speaker 1: other over there. And again, I'll say it, there's not

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Speaker 1: a damn dime's worth of difference between Palestine and Jmas.

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Speaker 1: If the Palestinians didn't want Hamas, they kicked their asses

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Speaker 1: out of there a long, long time ago. And you know,

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Speaker 1: now maybe the time is ripe for them to do something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what the military situation

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Speaker 1: is over there, but now they're killing one another. What

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Speaker 1: about all the Hollywood bubbleheads who President Trump for what

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Speaker 1: he did to bring the war to a peaceful conclusion.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we need to talk about that

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Speaker 1: just for a second. Here okay, Fox New Celebrities who

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Speaker 1: called for ceasefire and guys have faced scrutiny after Trump

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Speaker 1: peace deal breakthrough. Hollywood's most vocal free Palestine advocates are

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Speaker 1: facing scrutiny for their muted or critical response to the

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Speaker 1: ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas, which was secured, of course,

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Speaker 1: by President Trump. Many in Hollywood who repeatedly called for

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Speaker 1: ceasefire throughout the conflict, including members of campaigns such as

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Speaker 1: Artists for Ceasefire film Workers for Palestine, have either stayed

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Speaker 1: quiet or criticized the breakthrough, with few acknowledgments of Trump's

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Speaker 1: role in securing it. And that's just it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what they wanted. They're not going to get their

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Speaker 1: free Palestine, but they did get the ceasefire. You would

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Speaker 1: think there would be a little bit of gratitude there,

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Speaker 1: but no, not even gratitude, just at least acknowledge it.

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Speaker 1: Columnist Paulaphrelic she criticized about a dozen celebrities who publicly

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Speaker 1: called for free Palestine and ceasefire now or wore a

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Speaker 1: red handpin to the Oscars in twenty twenty four. She

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Speaker 1: or continued to blame Israel for all the atrocities that

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Speaker 1: have happened in the past two years. You know, I

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Speaker 1: guess they weren't there for October the seventh, when babies

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Speaker 1: were murdered, women were raped, families were destroyed. But hey,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything. We're not worried about that. We're

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Speaker 1: worried about Israel. And you know, they're alleged crimes, which

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Speaker 1: know what, I'll take that back. A couple things happened,

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Speaker 1: but the Israeli stepped right up. Well, anyway, this woman,

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Speaker 1: Paula Farilik, had a good quote. If I were less charitable,

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Speaker 1: I might argue that Hollywood celebrities care more about a

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Speaker 1: performative farce. And boy, she's so right. And that's just it.

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Speaker 1: She got the right word. Performative sparse. That's what they

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Speaker 1: want to do, scolding Israel and our president than seeing

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Speaker 1: a free Palestine actually happen in real time. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. How's that for hypocrisy? And that was

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Speaker 1: coming from a person in the UK. Some supporters of

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Speaker 1: the Free Palestine movement maintained that the ceasefire does not

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Speaker 1: fully address the humanitarian crisis or allegations accusing Israel of genocide.

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear that, that gets there on the

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Speaker 2: Up.

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Speaker 1: Israel and the IDF did not commit any type of

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Speaker 1: genocide over there. Amasa, on the other hand, on October

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Speaker 1: the seventh and throughout did And it looks like they're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep it up this time. They're not gonna kill Israelis.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna kill their own people. That's what you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with here. These people are scum. They're the scum of

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Speaker 1: the earth. They're filthy people. They kill babies, they rape women,

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Speaker 1: just shows that the twisted sense of values and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: would be the American College camp. Oh here's another one,

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Speaker 1: this dude, John Cusack. He's an actor. I've heard of him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he's been in. But

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Speaker 1: to anyone that believes for a moment that Net and

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Speaker 1: Yahoo will stop killing again, idiot What about the other side,

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Speaker 1: What about the moss idiot? I got to calm down.

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Speaker 1: To anyone who believes for a moment that Netanyahu will

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Speaker 1: stop killing there's a brood a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

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Speaker 1: He'll give Trump the photo op and then resume. This

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Speaker 1: is what the guy said, accusing both leaders of using

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Speaker 1: the deal for political gain. So you know, that's Hollywood

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Speaker 1: support for it. Other celebrities expressed cautious optimism, progressive actors

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Speaker 1: so this is kind of impressive. Shared a statement from

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Speaker 1: urgent and heartening moment of relief. So kudos for them

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Speaker 1: and you know, I mean give the man his due.

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Speaker 1: this thing, because it's not over. Those people are going

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Speaker 1: I guess the protests for that will be upcoming pretty soon,

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned. I guess. Well, this week we also

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Speaker 1: had a real sentencing of a terrorist. You may recall

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Speaker 1: What sentence did he get for attempting to assassinate a

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Speaker 1: and no later than twenty twenty eight. So let me

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Speaker 1: talk to you about the way terrorists should be sentenced.

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Speaker 1: There's at least one judge in this country who knows

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Speaker 1: how to sentence a terrorist. Dude's name is Cody Balmer.

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Speaker 1: You might remember this. He attempted to burn way. He

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Speaker 1: did burn down the governor's mansion for Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: He was sentenced to listen to this twenty five to

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Speaker 1: the April thirteenth, twenty twenty five arson attack on the

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Speaker 1: to charges including attempted murder, aggravated arson, and terrorism after

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Speaker 1: firebombing the home while the governor and his family were inside.

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Speaker 1: This one really really could.

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Speaker 3: Have been bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Like I said, he firebombed the Governor's residence

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Speaker 1: in Harrisburg, causing millions of dollars in damage. He used

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Speaker 1: molotov cocktails made from beer bottles filled with gasolin. You

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Speaker 1: That's what you do with these people, you had, well.

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Speaker 1: Number one, first and foremost, you've got to punish them

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Speaker 1: because they deserve punishment. But you also have to send

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Speaker 1: going to get hammered, you know, with a sentence like

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Pennsylvania law. You know, whether early

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Speaker 1: minutes here saw something this week that was kind of

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Speaker 1: shall I say, uplifting to me, transgenders, The trend is

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Speaker 1: declining quickly on American college campuses. This new analysis found

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Speaker 1: the trans identification trend among young people appears to be

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Speaker 1: losing momentum. Recent data taken from college campuses shows a

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Speaker 1: sharp decline in the number of gen Zers identifying as

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Speaker 1: IT went up in twenty twenty four to five point

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Speaker 1: two percent. Now just recently, only three point six percent

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Speaker 1: a lot, but you're not talking about a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Only three point six, As I said, respondents identified as

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Speaker 1: a gender other than male or female. And did you

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's to me and I think so many

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Speaker 1: other people, it's just so simple. Almighty God created us

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Speaker 1: to be one thing or another, not in between, not

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Speaker 1: to take your body apart, cutting things off, to transform

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Speaker 1: with what you think on that particular day. So good

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Speaker 1: news only five point two percent, well up to five

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Speaker 1: I read it before, uh, six point eight percent both

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Speaker 1: And let me be clear, and it seems like I

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Speaker 1: to be clear. I'm not advocating for any kind of

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Speaker 4: A simple thank you can't express our true feelings of

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Speaker 4: Part of it going today, and all the protesters out there,

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Speaker 8: Who should really follows your mayor? That's who needs to

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Speaker 1: You would think. And we got an election coming out.

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Speaker 9: I just want to ask the question, after listening to

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Speaker 9: First of all, I do not believe the problem is

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Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. I mean it's a pairamilitary organization. If their boss,

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Speaker 1: They're afraid to do their jobs like they used to

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Speaker 1: be done because, you know, let's just say they pull

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Speaker 1: over the wrong person. You know, they say, just accidentally

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Speaker 1: something you know, out of line to the wrong person, Boom,

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Speaker 1: They're in the jackpot and they're not going to risk that.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame them.

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Speaker 9: The second thing is your next guest from Epic Time. Yes,

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Speaker 9: it's part of the reason why I have an electric

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Speaker 9: subscription to that. She is so on the ball it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: You know what.

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Speaker 1: You said that before, and I told her that and

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Speaker 1: she told me to tell you she appreciates it. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, I concur with that. She's very well. Okay, Barry,

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Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. How about Maureen, Let's talk to Maureen. Hey, Maureen,

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Speaker 1: how are you hi?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 10: I wanted to chime in on the groups that are

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Speaker 10: involved with the No Kings.

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Speaker 3: Movement this week today.

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Speaker 10: There was an article yesterday, it was on the Gateway Pundit,

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Speaker 10: and it's called No King's Protest in New York City

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Speaker 10: Saturday is sponsored by several communist groups and it goes

452
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Speaker 10: into it's the Democratic Socialists of America, New York Working

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Speaker 10: Families and Parties, the CPUSA Freedom Socialist Party, and they're

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Speaker 10: all sponsoring this lat rally. And if you go to

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Speaker 10: that article on Gateway Pundit from yesterday, it'll tell you.

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Speaker 11: It'll give you a video of.

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Speaker 10: Chuck Schumer and how he's promoting it. Instead of trying

458
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Speaker 10: to work on shutting down the shutdown or opening up again,

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Speaker 10: he's promoting this this movement today.

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Speaker 12: But it always.

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Speaker 10: Sponsored by communist parties and they'll give you all the

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Speaker 10: whole list. There's like, I don't know, over one hundred

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Speaker 10: of them in that article. I'm gonna be good for

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Speaker 10: people to look at.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna check that out, you know. And didn't

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Speaker 1: you just say that part of it is one of

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Speaker 1: the endorsers is the Communist Party of USA. Is that correct?

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Speaker 13: Absolutely?

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Speaker 10: Yes, and it's yeah, it's a lot of them that

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Speaker 10: It's all in that article. It shows you all their

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Speaker 10: logos and everything so that you can see them. I'm

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Speaker 10: sure they'll be on their placards today that are pre made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, paid for by George Soros apparently. But

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Speaker 1: all right, well I sure appreciate that. Heads up, Marine,

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Speaker 1: sure check it out, Okay, I will thank you, thanks, Mike. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the organization she rattled off, I mean one of them

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Speaker 1: was CPUSA Communist Party of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: which now is a joke. I mean it's just a joke,

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Speaker 1: you know, just like the Klan is a joke on

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Speaker 1: the other side. But it's still there. And all those

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Speaker 1: other groups are what they used to call and I'm

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Speaker 1: still going to call them Communist front organizations. Look if

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Speaker 1: the City of New York Alexman Dami, they're going to

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Speaker 1: get a dose. If he's true to his word, and

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Speaker 1: I ain't so sure about that, but if he's true

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Speaker 1: to his word and true to what he says he's

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Speaker 1: going to do, we are going to have one hell

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Speaker 1: of a crash in the city in New York. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of feel sorry for those people.

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Speaker 1: Apparently some of the more wealthy ones business people are

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Speaker 1: already getting the hell out of there. But it would

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Speaker 1: be good in that we will get a bird'seye view

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Speaker 1: of what happens when a municipal government is governed by

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Speaker 1: someone who is at minimum a socialist and in all

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Speaker 1: likelihood probably a communist. And you know, I've been around

496
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Speaker 1: a while. I've enjoyed being interested in politics for a

497
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Speaker 1: long long time, disgusted with my father at the dinner

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Speaker 1: table and everything else. If you would have told me

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Speaker 1: back then that there would be a communist or committed socialist,

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Speaker 1: even borderline communist running for an office like that, you're crazy,

501
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: I'd say, you're crazy. I always wonder, maybe it's weird,

502
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Speaker 1: but I always wonder what Ronald Reagan must be thinking.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, that guy put this country on one hell

504
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Speaker 1: of a straight course and boy, if he's looking down now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can be too happy, but I

506
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: mean that's the way it is. And thank god for

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Speaker 1: one Donald J. Trump. He has turned more stuff around

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Speaker 1: in less than a year than most presidents accomplish in

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Speaker 1: their time in two terms. It's amazing and it's surprising

510
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Speaker 1: to me, shocking to me in a good way. What's

511
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Speaker 1: going on? And well, i'll tell you what. He is

512
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Speaker 1: not letting anyone get in his way. Keep in mind

513
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Speaker 1: with him, it's not even been a year yet. But

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Speaker 1: we have to keep the House. We got to beef

515
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Speaker 1: up that majority, we have to keep the Senate or

516
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, not all of it comes

517
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Speaker 1: to a grinding halt. Hey, we got to break for

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Speaker 1: the news. But again we've talked about this morning. When

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Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk to Janis Heisel

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Speaker 1: of the Epoch Times about Antifa, what they're all about

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Speaker 1: and how they formed. We'll do that when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday Midday News Radio seven Drew Mike Allen

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Speaker 1: on Saturday Midday, Well, President Trump, the Department of Justice,

524
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Speaker 1: and the FBI are really cracking down on terrorist groups

525
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Speaker 1: like the one we're going to talk about Antifa. The

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Speaker 1: President designated them as a domestic terrorist organization any ordered

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Speaker 1: federal agencies to root out quote any and all illegal

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Speaker 1: operations close quote. But really, I mean, what do we

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Speaker 1: know about Antifa. I don't think it's very much. Really.

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Speaker 1: Janis Heisl of the Epoch Times did a deep dive

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Speaker 1: on this subject in two separate articles, and she's here

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Speaker 1: this morning to tell us about it.

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Speaker 14: Janus, good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, my pleasure, my pleasure. Just in general, tell us

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Speaker 1: about what you learned about Antifa, and I'll have some

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Speaker 1: specific questions later, but just generally what you found out,

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Speaker 1: because I really don't think Janis people know a lot

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Speaker 1: about the group.

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Speaker 14: Well, actually I didn't either, and so I got this

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Speaker 14: assignment and then, as you mentioned, I really did a

541
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Speaker 14: lot of research and poured it into this story that

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Speaker 14: you referenced, a couple of stories that I did. So

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Speaker 14: one of the biggest things that stands out to me

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Speaker 14: is that this movement actually encompasses a whole bunch of

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Speaker 14: different ideologies. For example, it attracts a lot of people

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Speaker 14: who are into anarchy, people who are into communism, and

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Speaker 14: it actually has communist roots, which I did not know

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Speaker 14: before I did this research.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had heard that maybe maybe came across

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Speaker 1: this that it kind of sprang from the Spanish Civil

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Speaker 1: War back in the thirties and forties. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Did you find anything out that would verify that, not

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Speaker 1: that it matters.

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Speaker 14: Actually, the anti fascist movement as it's known today is

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Speaker 14: generally traced to nineteen thirty two when a group in

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Speaker 14: Germany formed that caught it self in German, the English

557
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Speaker 14: translation is anti fascist action.

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Speaker 5: Thus the word antifa started to come into vogue.

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Speaker 14: And even today, a lot of the signs, symbols that

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Speaker 14: were used, flags and things that were used by that

561
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Speaker 14: group are still in use today, embraced by this movement

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Speaker 14: which ironically accuses other people of being fascist, but then

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Speaker 14: they're accused of being fascist by again. The term fascism

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Speaker 14: is even quote unquote hard to define, even according to

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Speaker 14: people who are proponents of fascism. Generally, it's viewed as

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Speaker 14: authoritarianism or trying to stop people from expressing their opinions

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Speaker 14: or oppressing them.

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Speaker 5: But then that is what antifa does.

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Speaker 14: Antifa is it's such a contradictory thing because antifa says

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Speaker 14: you know, we're going after people who.

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Speaker 5: Are oppress others, But then what do they do?

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Speaker 14: They try to stop people from seeing things they want

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Speaker 14: to say. In fact, two of their slogans are quote

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Speaker 14: no platform for people who are they deem fascist and

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Speaker 14: it's up to them to decide who's a fascist, and

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Speaker 14: anybody under their definition could be named a fascist.

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Speaker 5: That was another surprise I.

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Speaker 14: Was stunned to see on the Rose City Antifa, which

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Speaker 14: is the Portland, Oregon where where there's been a lot

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Speaker 14: of clashes lately with ICE and Antifa. One of their

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Speaker 14: criteria is literally people who engage in anti liberal, anti

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Speaker 14: communists or get this anti conservative rhetoric.

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Speaker 5: Anybody might fit that definition. I just kind of liked it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, although that's not the only criteria.

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Speaker 14: They say that you have to have several criteria before

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Speaker 14: they would deem you a fascist.

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Speaker 5: But people who were in.

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Speaker 14: The movement and blew the whistle on this say that,

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Speaker 14: you know, as soon as you aren't stepping in line

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Speaker 14: with what they want, you become a fascist and they

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Speaker 14: attack you.

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Speaker 1: Oh of course. You've got a really interesting quote on

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Speaker 1: page eight of the longer article from a guy named

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Speaker 1: Gabriel nadalas ex ANTIFA participant and author of a book.

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Speaker 1: It's a real short quote. Antifas stands for anti fascist,

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Speaker 1: but the name is deceptive. Anyone who dares to criticize

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Speaker 1: the group or its tactics can be labeled a fascist.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that word is getting to be like

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Speaker 1: racist and racism, where it's tossed around so much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the word fascist tossed around so much that it's literally

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Speaker 1: lost all of its value and meaning.

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Speaker 14: It has been tossed around quite a bit. And you know,

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Speaker 14: I've interviewed people. There was one man I interviewed for

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Speaker 14: that article that you're referencing who has been.

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Speaker 5: Very victimized, very like Docks.

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Speaker 14: That's another technique besides actual violence, to try to shut

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Speaker 14: people down.

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Speaker 5: And they wear black clothing. That's another thing.

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Speaker 14: You know, although that you know, anybody can wear black, right,

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Speaker 14: you might go to a gym and find a bunch

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Speaker 14: of people wearing black, but anybody.

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Speaker 5: Could wear black. But this is another characteristic.

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Speaker 14: They dress in black block, including masks on the face.

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Speaker 13: Prior to.

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Speaker 14: Even COVID, you know, they used to wear masks to

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Speaker 14: make themselves anonymous. So there was a gentleman who was

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Speaker 14: telling me about these techniques that he's observed over and

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Speaker 14: over again, and it makes them hard to identify.

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Speaker 5: So if you're attacked.

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Speaker 14: By a black block as they call it vloc, you

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Speaker 14: can't go, oh, that's the guy that hit me over

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Speaker 14: the head with a pipe.

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Speaker 5: You just can't identify these people.

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Speaker 2: So that was.

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Speaker 5: Another thing that I found. And they docs.

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Speaker 14: People, meaning they take your personal information, they'll put it

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Speaker 14: out there and they'll label you.

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Speaker 5: As anti gay, and they'll tag.

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Speaker 14: Your employer, and they will maybe even go after your

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Speaker 14: family members, show up at your you know, places you're

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Speaker 14: known to hang out, and just lots of different ways

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Speaker 14: to intimidate people into a feeling that it's no longer

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Speaker 14: worth coming out and sharing whatever your political view is.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm assuming, based on what you've said and based

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Speaker 1: on what I read in your articles, that there is

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Speaker 1: no identifiable leader or really even any structure for Antifa.

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Speaker 1: Is that an accurate statement from what I understand?

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Speaker 5: Yes, although there is a one network that.

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Speaker 14: Does have at least seven identified active members. You can

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Speaker 14: go on the Internet and search for Torch Antifa network

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Speaker 14: and it has seven active chapters there.

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Speaker 5: And actually I'm told that that's by.

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Speaker 14: Design that the analogy given to me by one of

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Speaker 14: the people I interviewed was, you know, it's not like that,

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Speaker 14: you know, the mafia or a drug cartel is going

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Speaker 14: to have an organizational chart like the typical corporation would.

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Speaker 14: You wouldn't have that out there because it's a way

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Speaker 14: to give, you know, guideposts to people who might seek

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Speaker 14: to authorities who might seek to be charging you criminally

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Speaker 14: for these activities.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, whenever there's been an org chart

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Speaker 5: of for example, the mafia.

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Speaker 14: That tends to be something that the authority is put

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Speaker 14: together after investigating. So we don't know what it looks like.

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Speaker 14: It may be as loose as described, it may be

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Speaker 14: more organized than described. But one of the biggest things

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Speaker 14: that cash Puttel, the FBI director, said is that he

658
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Speaker 14: is following the money because quote, money never lies.

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Speaker 1: He said, I saw that in your article, and that

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Speaker 1: leads me into what I was going to ask you later,

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Speaker 1: but I'll ask it now. Any idea who is funding

662
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Speaker 1: this group? Now, the logical suspect would be George Soros.

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Speaker 1: I guess his son's taken over his communist stuff now,

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Speaker 1: But we're able to get any kind of clue or

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Speaker 1: lead into who's spending money on this thing, because I

666
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Speaker 1: don't know if it was in your article, but somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: You know, they show up to these rallies, these protests

668
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Speaker 1: with handmade not handmade, but pre made signs that look

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Speaker 1: like they were professionally done. Somebody's somebody's bank rolling them.

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Speaker 1: Anything on that Janus.

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Speaker 14: Well, there are videos that actually show equipment such as

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Speaker 14: you know, masks or maybe even weapons, different things being

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Speaker 14: handed out from like vans. So again, there is something

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Speaker 14: afoot here that part of it I don't know a

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Speaker 14: lot about. I do know that the authorities are looking

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Speaker 14: into this, The FBI, all the different agencies of the

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Speaker 14: federal government are investigating the funding aspect, and I've read

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Speaker 14: some things about it, But right now I don't have

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Speaker 14: a deep knowledge on that yet, and I don't think

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Speaker 14: most people are.

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Speaker 5: Very few people would at this point.

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Speaker 14: It's something that there's just a dawning awareness of, and

683
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Speaker 14: more and more investigation is going to be coming forth,

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Speaker 14: I think. So we'll see what happens, and we'll see

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Speaker 14: whether you know, it really is as quote unquote not

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Speaker 14: organized as they say, or whether it's more organized than

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Speaker 14: they are purporting.

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Speaker 1: It's really perplexing. I mean, and obviously the president is

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Speaker 1: put as a high priority, and that's obviously a good thing.

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Speaker 1: But boy, I'll tell you what, it's really sketchy. Wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you. There's a guy that you interviewed, I

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Speaker 1: think for both of your articles. But Andy, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna probably screw this up, ngo nego am I saying that? Right?

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Speaker 5: Janis if Andy know?

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Speaker 14: And actually I incorporated into my story an interview he

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Speaker 14: did with one of my colleagues.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes we do that to help each other out.

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Speaker 14: But so I didn't speak with him directly, although I've

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Speaker 14: been in contact with him on social media. And that

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Speaker 14: particular journalist was attacked viciously and almost died of a

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Speaker 14: brain game in twenty nineteen, and he describes in his book,

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Speaker 14: which I did read for this article, how you know,

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Speaker 14: he was hit very hard in the back of his head.

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Speaker 14: He naively thought maybe it was an accident, and he

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Speaker 14: turns around and then suddenly he's surrounded by what he

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Speaker 14: calls what they call the black Block, an anonymous mob

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Speaker 14: of black clad people just beating the pulp out of

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Speaker 14: this guy.

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Speaker 5: And he shows up at.

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Speaker 14: The hospital with a brain bleed and then to humiliate him.

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Speaker 5: They threw like I guess, milkshaits on him.

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Speaker 14: There's even a picture in my article that shows this

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Speaker 14: young man just dripping with this white colored liquid. Just

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Speaker 14: again it's a humiliation tactic. And you know, they targeted

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Speaker 14: him and literally he said, all he was doing was

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Speaker 14: filming with his iPhone.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't bothering anybody.

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Speaker 14: I don't think he was even necessarily talking to anybody

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Speaker 14: at the moment, hit from behind and almost died.

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Speaker 5: He's because he was just pummeled.

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Speaker 1: He's a journalist, didn't he Yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 5: An independent journalist at the time. He's not affiliated with

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Speaker 5: like a couple of.

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Speaker 14: Organizations, I believe, and has written this book that has been.

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Speaker 5: A best seller.

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Speaker 14: He actually had to leave the country because he has

727
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Speaker 14: been so so attacked. In his last name No and

728
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Speaker 14: Geo is a Vietnamese name, and he says in his

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Speaker 14: book and in interviews I've seen with him where he

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Speaker 14: loves this country. His parents escaped communist regime in Vietnam,

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Speaker 14: and that's why he felt so passionate about bringing to

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Speaker 14: light what these people are doing. And you know, not

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Speaker 14: all of them are communists, and he says they're purposely

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Speaker 14: hard to define. They're purposely you know, it helps make

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Speaker 14: it harder to identify who they are. It makes it

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Speaker 14: harder to maybe even press charges. It's just it's done

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Speaker 14: by design to be kind of vague.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and boy, I tell you that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that is kind of consistent through it. They are vague.

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Speaker 1: And in your article, I forget which one. And this

741
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Speaker 1: is pretty incredible, but doesn't surprise me. Former FBI Director

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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray called Antifa quote an ideology rather than quote

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Speaker 1: an organization. I get it that they're sketchy, but when

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Speaker 1: the top law enforcement off Sir makes that determination based

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Speaker 1: on nothing, just tells me that, at least under him,

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Speaker 1: they weren't taking it seriously. It certainly seems like Cash

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Speaker 1: Battel and President Trump and you know, the whole Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice are taking it seriously. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 14: Well, they have made no bones about it. In fact,

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Speaker 14: in his executive order designating Antifa a domestic terrorist organization

751
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Speaker 14: and also in a related.

752
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Speaker 5: Memo, President Trump comes out and.

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Speaker 14: Tells all the various aspects of the national security apparatus.

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Speaker 5: The FBI, even the.

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Speaker 14: IRS, all of these different agencies, the Treasury, department, on

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Speaker 14: and on. He is issuing directives to fully investigate and

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Speaker 14: root out whatever structure does exist and whatever funding does exist,

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Speaker 14: and make it a high NAP. I think he said

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Speaker 14: the word top national priority in either the memo or

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Speaker 14: the executive order.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember which.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you it's obviously needed. Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: stay on this? I sure hope so.

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Speaker 5: Actually I have been told to do that.

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Speaker 14: So it seems like, you know, this is gonna be

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Speaker 14: my next area of concentration. And I've got to say,

767
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Speaker 14: it's uh. When you dig into this, it the murkiness

768
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Speaker 14: of the whole thing becomes even more apparent to you.

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Speaker 5: It's just it was a vague thing for.

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Speaker 14: Me, and now it's become specifically vague, if that makes

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Speaker 14: any sense.

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Speaker 5: Now I understand that it's purpose.

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Speaker 14: They try to be vague about it, and it can't

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Speaker 14: attract anybody.

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Speaker 5: And the sad part is anybody.

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Speaker 14: Can be a target, literally, anybody who opposes them like

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Speaker 14: that that one quote, That's why I've told that quote

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Speaker 14: from the book. Anybody can be labeled a fascist. And

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Speaker 14: what a horrible thing to say about a person, same

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Speaker 14: thing as the word racist exactly, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's tossed around so much that it virtually has no

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Speaker 1: meaning anymore.

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Speaker 14: And I don't think a lot of people even know

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Speaker 14: what the word fascist means, if they're being truthful, because

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Speaker 14: even the people, even the guy who wrote the book

786
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Speaker 14: that was pro antifa, said fascism is hard to define.

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess growing up and learning about this

788
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Speaker 1: stuff in high school, and I always equated fascism with

789
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Speaker 1: Benito Mussolini over in Italy. But it is a word

790
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Speaker 1: that I guess can have any number of meanings whatever

791
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Speaker 1: they want to give it for the day, I suppose,

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Speaker 1: but really appreciate you talk to us about this, Janus,

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Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Mike is always a pleasure. Thank you so much

795
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Speaker 5: for having me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you all right, Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times.

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Speaker 1: If you have time and you are so inclined, man,

798
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Speaker 1: go read these articles. They're kind of like one right

799
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Speaker 1: on top of the other. The longer one antifat communist roots,

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Speaker 1: violent tactics and terror designation, and the other on FBI

801
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Speaker 1: other agencies ramp up antifa probe and boy, I'll tell

802
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: you what that is so needed, and that is something

803
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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, there is no way in

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Speaker 1: God's green earth that they would have done anything similar

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Speaker 1: to that. Anyway, we got to take a break, but

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Speaker 1: we'll be back. Mike Allen Saturday. Hey, we're back, Mike

807
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Speaker 1: Allen Saturday midday. We put out an all points bulletin

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Speaker 1: for Christopher Smoothman. I have in a little trouble locating

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Speaker 1: him today, but if I know him, he'll call. He's

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Speaker 1: probably busy on his campaign, but gives me an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to say. Just as I'm sitting here, I heard our

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Speaker 1: newscast talking about a person was apprehended on a drive

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Speaker 1: by shooting that happened downtown course in the three hundred

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Speaker 1: block of Sycamore Street. Well, anyway, they talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: apprehending the guy and somebody I assume it as a

816
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Speaker 1: police they wanted to or they acknowledged help from the

817
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Probation Department Field office. They have these different

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Speaker 1: probation substations throughout the county where you know, the probation

819
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Speaker 1: officers are a little bit closer to the action to

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Speaker 1: the people. Without question, everyone has said that it's a

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Speaker 1: good idea. Well, the judges don't think so apparently. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they voted on it or not, but

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Fox nineteen article dated September third, and

824
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Speaker 1: they talk about they're going to have a vote on

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Speaker 1: whether to get rid of them or not. I said

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Speaker 1: it at the time, and I'll say it again. There

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Speaker 1: is absolutely no reason whatsoever to get rid of the

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Speaker 1: pro bation field offices. And you just heard it. They

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Speaker 1: were helpful, apparently, and apprehending this dude in a drive

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Speaker 1: by shooting on Sycamore Street. So anyway, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to point that out. We have Christopher Smithman on the line,

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Speaker 1: I believe, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Christopher, Hey Mike, how are you doing this morning? Of course,

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you about the substations, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: the locations of where they were located, and then even

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Speaker 2: how it all went down, you know, kind of like

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Speaker 2: the in the Dark, the Republican judges were locked out,

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Speaker 2: and you know, this decision was made to close them,

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Speaker 2: and it kind of broadsided most of the judges down there.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know even why that decision was.

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Speaker 1: Made, but it was made because what I've got here

842
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Speaker 1: in front of me, I had to scramble. I just

843
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Speaker 1: have an article that says they're going to vote on Thursday,

844
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Speaker 1: so I assume they voted to get rid of them,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the stupid But it's things I've

846
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Speaker 1: ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it was, And what it does is it just

848
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Speaker 2: continues to undermine, you know.

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Speaker 8: Public services.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you know.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a drum beat, Mike Allen. Where every

852
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Speaker 2: time we turn around, there are people that are doing

853
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Speaker 2: things that are supporting criminals and not the priority of

854
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Speaker 2: protecting law abid the citizens. And I think we're seeing

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Speaker 2: that kind of trend, and I'm not exaggerating all across

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Speaker 2: the United States of America. So why would you shut

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Speaker 2: something down that's working.

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Speaker 1: I don't never make sense. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to be able to ask those judges who

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Speaker 1: voted for doing that, what were there reasons, or you know,

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Speaker 1: if there are reasons that are written down somewhere, it's

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Speaker 1: probably public record. But it's just the debacle. When I

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Speaker 1: heard that Christopher on the newscast right before I started

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Speaker 1: talking to you, I thought, wait a minute, we talked

865
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Speaker 1: about that on this show a while back. But anyway,

866
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: getting down to the main issue, here. You know, crime

867
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: continues to kind of run rampant in the city of Cincinnati.

868
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: We've got that shooting that we just talked about three

869
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: hundred block of Sycamore Street. Then you've got, of course

870
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the shootout at the Ok Corral down there on the

871
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Fountain Square, and now it looks like the blame is

872
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: going to be heaped on our police chief. Your thoughts

873
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: on all of that, Christopher.

874
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, crime is on the ballot. I can tell you

875
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: no matter where we walk and whatever door we talk to,

876
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: whether and I'm going to name some of these neighborhoods

877
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: that we've been in. So whether it's Bond Hill, Rolls

878
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: on our Evingston or Kennedy Heights, the message is the

879
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: same from Grandma, Grandpa, those middle aged people that have

880
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: raised their children, they paid off their house, equity in

881
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: their home is their number one investment, and they're concerned

882
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: about coming out of their house and being robbed. And

883
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: so whether we were there, or whether we were in

884
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Hyde Park or Mount lookout Right, or whether we were

885
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: in Westwood or Price Hill, the message is the same.

886
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: Crime is the number one issue that people are concerned about. Mike, Yes,

887
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: And what has happened is the mayor's drum beat is perception, perception,

888
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: it's not your reality. Right, And then we turn on

889
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: the TV. I'm gonna show you where I'm going with

890
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: my logic. Here is we see a shootout on two

891
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: occasions right around our core Fountain Square, one off the

892
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: Fountain Square, one on the Fountain Square right. And then

893
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: you see the going to your question. Here you see

894
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: the mayor who has said it's our perception crime is down,

895
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: make the decision to fire the police chief right before

896
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: the election. While he's telling her you're doing a great job,

897
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: meaning if crime is down, you're in the campaign in

898
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: both debates and you're going after your opponent, Corey Bowman

899
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: saying you really don't know what you're talking about. Crime

900
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: is really down. Our stats are telling that. That meant

901
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: that the person who was at the top, which is

902
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: our chief, Chief Fiji, from his perspective, was doing a

903
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: great job. Why would you be terminating her at this

904
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: time right before an election? Number two, just from a

905
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: humanity perspective, and I just want to say this to

906
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: Chief Fiji, who I hope is listening, and I hope

907
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: that her family that they're listening to Neville family. This

908
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: is a family that has dedicated their life to law

909
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: enforcement like like no other family. Almost I'm exaggerating, but

910
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great It's a wonderful family.

911
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Christopher. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I want

912
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: to speak to that too, because you are so so right,

913
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: all of them going back to their father, Gary Neville,

914
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: who was a great guy. But anyway, I just wanted

915
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: to make sure that came in.

916
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 15: No.

917
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: I think I think it's important because he's he's crapping

918
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: on a family that's given their life to the city

919
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: right in this area area of law enforcement, and you're

920
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: acting like she's trash. And so what really blows my

921
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: mind is they'd call her back from a chiefs conference,

922
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: meaning she's in Denver at conference. Why wouldn't you wait

923
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: until she got back to have this discussion. You call

924
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: her back like you're the principal and she's being called

925
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: to the principal's office. She's around all of her peers.

926
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: It had to be incredibly embarrassing for her. Why would

927
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: you treat a family that's given so much? And I'm

928
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna answer that question. It's not rhetorical. It's because

929
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: this mayorage from Dayton. This mayor doesn't understand the Neville family.

930
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: He doesn't understand what he has done. He doesn't understand

931
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: the west side of town. And even if people were

932
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: questioning how the chief was doing the job, they would

933
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: never on the west side want her treated the way

934
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: she's being treated. And if he was from Cincinnati, if

935
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: he had gone to a high school in Cincinnati, he

936
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: would understand those details. So this is going to hurt

937
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: him in the upcoming election on the west side of town.

938
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: And I want to you know, westsiders are loyal. Again.

939
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: They might have been saying, they might have been saying, hey,

940
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: we're concerned about the direction that the chief was going in,

941
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: but there's no way they want to treated the way

942
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: this mayor and this manager is treating Chief Fiji. At

943
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: our end by saying this, she was only doing what

944
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: she was directed to do by the mayor, by the

945
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: city manager, and by Irish rolling meanings. They have a

946
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: consultant in there that is telling her be soft on crime.

947
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: We're worried about the babies. We got to do the

948
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: collaborative agreement as if as if we're under federal oversight,

949
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: and that is in conflict with doing proactive policing, which

950
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: it is not, meaning we have to do proactive policing

951
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: while we're doing community based policing. Unfortunately, they pushed the

952
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: chief into that corner because the manager had the power

953
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: to fire her. Now she's hired one of the most

954
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: prominent attorneys, Chris his law firm. Yes, he is no joke.

955
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: A lot of people do not understand that she is

956
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: going to get paid a lot of money, just like

957
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: Chief Washington, the fire chief Cool they also fired in

958
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: the most grotesque way.

959
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 9: Both of these Both of these.

960
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: Stories tell you, in my opinion, Mike Allen, how dysfunctional

961
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: city Hall is that they're not able to manage the

962
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: basic personnel of our city.

963
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: Yep, you are so right about that, Christopher. I don't

964
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: know if you and I talked about this. There was

965
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: a thing called City Issue five. I'm thinking it was

966
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: twenty something years ago. What it was before the Issue five,

967
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: the chief of police had civil service protection and it

968
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a deal where you know, the mayor can pick

969
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: up the phone and say Chief, I want you to

970
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: do this, this and this. Now I know they tried

971
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: to do that during that time, and the chief just

972
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of said, go to hell. Well, with the passage

973
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: of Issue five, that was gone, and instead of being

974
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: a law enforcement official, she becomes a law for law

975
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: enforcement official and a political actor. And I just wonder

976
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: if there'd be any any interest in anyone taking another

977
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: look at that and perhaps reversing it, because I'm telling

978
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: you right now, if that were still in place, that

979
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: the chief had the civil service protection, we wouldn't be

980
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: talking about her getting drummed out.

981
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Now. First, Mike Allen, you're right on point, and there

982
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: are great parts to Issue five, So let me say

983
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: that from my perspective, But I think this is a

984
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: great opportunity for us to revisit Issue five, which is

985
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: what I hear you say, because it is personality driven.

986
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 8: If you get a great mayor.

987
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: In there, like a Charlie Luken or a John Cranley

988
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 2: as an example, right, and I'm gonna have some fun

989
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: with you like a Christopher Smitherman, You're not gonna have something.

990
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have somebody who's try to undermine law enforcement. Okay, However,

991
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: what I here's the penicillin that I plan to put forward.

992
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: So you brought a problem, I'm going to share with you.

993
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: What I think the solution is. What I want to

994
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: do is bring a constitutional amendment, Charter amendment to Issue

995
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: five that says the mayor, the city manager cannot terminate

996
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: the police chief or fire chief without seven members of council.

997
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: So I want I want just the way we treat

998
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: the city manager. We can't fire the city manager without

999
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: the consent of the Board of Directors the nine members

1000
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: of council. I do not want the city manager to

1001
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: be able to terminate the fire chief or the police

1002
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: chief without the consent of seven members of council, which

1003
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 2: will require a charter amendment, which I plan to lead.

1004
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: I think that will clean it up. I don't think

1005
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: that this chief right now would not have been called

1006
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: back a from a Denvers conference. I also would clean

1007
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: up where we have chief watching. That most likely is

1008
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: going to cost us one to two to five million dollars.

1009
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: That's coming. Chris Finny, his law firm, has warned that lawsuit,

1010
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: they've worn, the appeal, they've gotten summary judgment. This is

1011
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: just a matter of time before the public cares about

1012
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: Chief Washington and how they drug his name through the mud,

1013
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: just like they're doing. They're trying to do here with

1014
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: Chief Fiji. I've had my questions about how some of

1015
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: the decisions that Chief Fiji has made, But it doesn't

1016
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: mean that I don't support her. It doesn't mean that

1017
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 2: I don't like her. If I saw Chief Fiji right now,

1018
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: I give her a big hug, I tell her I

1019
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: support you. I do not think they've treated her well here,

1020
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: and by the way, she's going to get a great

1021
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: severance because of how they've treated her and having her

1022
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: come back from Denver. Just anybody out there who's a professional,

1023
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: think you're at the greatest professional conference of your life.

1024
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: You're around all your peers, and somebody says nationally through

1025
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: the newspaper, you got to come back to Cincinnati.

1026
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: To be fired.

1027
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: That had to be humiliating for her, and the Neville

1028
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: family didn't deserve that, Like Allen, and I pray to

1029
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: God that Westsiders are listening to what I'm saying. I

1030
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: don't care whether you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, you're

1031
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: an independent like me, or you're a charter right. This

1032
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: family didn't deserve it. You don't give thirty forty years

1033
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: of your life to the city and then have a

1034
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: city manager and a mayor, particularly a mayor who's not

1035
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 2: even from Cincinnati, come and treat this family like that.

1036
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's just it's horrific to me.

1037
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: This whole thing sounds like a scapegoating situation where you know,

1038
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: the mayor's well, you know, we didn't get good results

1039
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: under this chief, so I spearheaded the effort to get

1040
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: rid of the one we have, and it all falls

1041
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: on her, and it's just not fair. But anyway, it's

1042
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: not fair.

1043
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, let's remind the public that our

1044
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: police department and our fire department is command driven. So

1045
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: now what they've also done is they've undermined the police

1046
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: department so bad that police officers, as I have this conversation,

1047
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: don't know who to take orders from. Yeah, right, because

1048
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: they've left this vacuum. And this is what this administration

1049
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: does again. It's like taking out the general. And she's

1050
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: still the chief, right, But the reality of it is,

1051
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: you know that her formal power has been taken from her,

1052
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: and now people are trying to figure out, well, who's

1053
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: the chief and who do we take orders from? Well,

1054
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: guess what that puts everybody's life on the line.

1055
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: Yep.

1056
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: Right, and that's what concerns me that this mayor again,

1057
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: who kept telling his opponent, you don't have what experience?

1058
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: You don't have experience. He kept saying that, Mike, you

1059
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: don't have experience. Guess what. I will take common sense

1060
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: over experience any day. And common sense isn't common.

1061
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I like that. I never heard that one. Hey,

1062
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: we only have a couple minutes left, Christopher, I just

1063
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of maybe get a little kind of

1064
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: closing argument from you on voting in the election, because

1065
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: early voting is already started.

1066
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that that our city will think about

1067
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: not voting for nine people for city council. That's so important.

1068
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: We have a nine x system. I would only vote

1069
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: for four or five people in the field that you want.

1070
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: So there might be twenty five or twenty four, twenty

1071
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: three candidates that are out here running, Find four or

1072
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: five of them you like, and vote for them and stop.

1073
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: That makes your ballot more powerful. Number two, I would say,

1074
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: think about all the things that are going on right now,

1075
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: whether it's whether it's snow removal, potholes, these low level

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Speaker 2: things that are important to the daily lives, the quality

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Speaker 2: of life, of all fifty two neighborhoods, whether you're talking

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Speaker 2: about Hyde Park and the development that went bad there

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Speaker 2: because council wasn't listening, including the mayor or, this notion

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Speaker 2: of connect communities, this legislation of zoning that really undermined

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Speaker 2: all fifty two neighborhoods. Again, council and the mayor weren't listening.

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Speaker 2: But crime is the number one issue. We can't do development.

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Speaker 2: People can't have home values going higher if we don't

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Speaker 2: feel faith. And what I see right now is a

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Speaker 2: is a is a council and a mayor who are

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Speaker 2: more interested in protecting the criminal elements of our society,

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Speaker 2: including our judges, not the prosecutors, and not the cops.

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Speaker 2: The cops are arresting, the prosecutors are trying to prosecute,

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Speaker 2: and the judges are letting them out. So there's a

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Speaker 2: we have a broken system, but we have we have

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Speaker 2: a body of nine collectively, not individually collectively, and a

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Speaker 2: mayor who have a bigger emphasis on protecting criminals than

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Speaker 2: protecting us, the citizens of law by the citizens. And

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Speaker 2: there are a lot more of us because the criminals

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Speaker 2: are a very very small element. So elect four or

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Speaker 2: five people Mike Allen, and my conclusion here that will

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Speaker 2: will that will support the police department and our fire department,

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Speaker 2: that will not talk about defunding and reimaginating, reimagination of

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Speaker 2: our law enforcement and people that can get behind and

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Speaker 2: support our officers. Remember the officer who shot the unarmed,

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Speaker 2: the officer who shocked the young man running from the

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Speaker 2: vehicle from a stolen vehicle, and then the father killing

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Speaker 2: the sheriff the next day. We still have not heard

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Speaker 2: from council or the mayor. I mean, these things are happening,

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Speaker 2: and they're undermining the morale of our police department as

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Speaker 2: they're out here just trying to do their job to

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Speaker 2: keep us safe. So I'm asking you to vote for Smithlman.

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Speaker 2: Give me one of those four or five votes out

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Speaker 2: there public. We can change this together. But don't send

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Speaker 2: me there by myself. You know, there's a lisz Keeping

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Speaker 2: out there running. There's a lind Of Matthews out there running.

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Speaker 2: There's a good out there who's running. There's a dree

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Speaker 2: House out there running. There's a leader Lakeda Cole out there.

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Speaker 2: They're running. They're Democrats, Republicans, Charter Rights, independence that are

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Speaker 2: out there running that we can just do better as

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Speaker 2: the city. This is not about who Trump is and

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Speaker 2: national politics. This election is about us and our safety.

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Speaker 2: I think people should vote like their lives.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're out of time, Christopher. I really appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. People can follow me at vote Smitherman.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Roving, all right, thank you. All right. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we do have to take a break for the news,

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Speaker 1: but when we get back, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: national politics with independent political analyst Kevin Burton, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do that when we get back. Mike Allen, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: This is Jeff for Tri State Men's Health, where we've

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Speaker 1: successfully treated thousands of men for News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday midway our three third and final hour. Well,

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Speaker 1: we talked to local politics with Christopher Smithman. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: some national politics. What's going on out there, what about

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Speaker 1: the congressional battle in the Supreme Court, Trump's biggest win

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Speaker 1: in the Mideast This week, we're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, who is an independent political analyst. Kevin, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Mike, thanks having me as always my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Supreme Court and the whole battle over redistricting and

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Speaker 1: all that. Where do you see that going and how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the races?

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Speaker 3: Well? First off, congratulations to all.

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Speaker 16: Lawyers on their billable hours number one undefeated.

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Speaker 3: Always, so congratulations to all.

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Speaker 16: The big firms. It does look like they're going to

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Speaker 16: strike down section two.

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Speaker 3: Of the voting right back.

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Speaker 16: So what that means is essentially that you can reshape

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Speaker 16: the maps, but be careful for what you wish for

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Speaker 16: is my only thing, because it might help you today,

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Speaker 16: but it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to hurt you tomorrow.

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Speaker 16: And a great example of this is straight ballid voting

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Speaker 16: in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky.

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Speaker 16: You know the Democrats many years ago loved straight ballid

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Speaker 16: voting tickets. Well, when the tide shifted. Now they can't

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Speaker 16: win any elections here. Besides Andy forsheer to be careful

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Speaker 16: for what you wish for, in reality it's going to

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Speaker 16: gain I really hate both sides because listen, if you

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Speaker 16: want to do it after the census like it's always

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Speaker 16: been done, it's fair, but you can't pick up the

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Speaker 16: ball and change the change.

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Speaker 3: The rules in the middle of the game.

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Speaker 16: And both sides are doing it California, New.

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Speaker 3: York, Texas, now the South.

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Speaker 16: Like play the game, you can't change it in the

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Speaker 16: middle of the game, but they are. Every every side

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Speaker 16: is going to So it's going to be really interesting

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Speaker 16: because all these congressional maps. Usually at this time, you

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Speaker 16: have a pretty good indicator. What's it's called the cook reports.

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Speaker 16: People give like plus five plus seven that basically tells

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Speaker 16: you in the last presidential election how much they won

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Speaker 16: by you start kind of setting up the maps. Well,

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Speaker 16: if they throw out the maps and throw all new maps,

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Speaker 16: which it looks like almost every state is going to

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Speaker 16: do this, for your consultants and for your candidates, it

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Speaker 16: changes everything because you don't know what you're running in.

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Speaker 1: When will they finally know something on that and be

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Speaker 1: able to intelligently, you know, look at it and make

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Speaker 1: predictions that'll come down to the wire. I guess what

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Speaker 1: it is too late?

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Speaker 16: Well, and that's that's and that is the other question,

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Speaker 16: you know. So if the Supreme Court rules sooner than later,

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Speaker 16: then it has to go to all the states where

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Speaker 16: they have to pass you know, legislation has to pass

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Speaker 16: new maps. So I mean it's going to come down

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Speaker 16: to the wire. But Let's be real. The only time

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Speaker 16: either side really cares is when it affects them. So

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Speaker 16: they'll get it done both sides in California and New York, Texas.

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Speaker 3: They'll get it done well.

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Speaker 16: But it just changes everything from fundraising, sure, the strategy

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Speaker 16: because you don't know how they're going to cut it. Listen,

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Speaker 16: kerry Mandering has always been a part of the game,

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Speaker 16: but it's always after the census. You know, you can't

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Speaker 16: pick up your ball and run when you don't like

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Speaker 16: the rules. You got to play by them.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. It would

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Speaker 1: be nice if we could find some kind of vehicle

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Speaker 1: where both sides are happy and we don't have to

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Speaker 1: go through this nonsense every ten years. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that would be, and I'm not optimistic and

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Speaker 1: anybody will figure it out.

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Speaker 16: No, And what I'm also worried about is the long

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Speaker 16: term effects, because now you've kind of set precedents that

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Speaker 16: you can just change it whenever you feel like, and the.

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Speaker 3: House that is going to become almost more and more.

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Speaker 1: Like you know.

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Speaker 16: The great thing is is when you have someone from

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Speaker 16: a red state or a blue state who's the opposite

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Speaker 16: party because it gives you know, it shows you, hey,

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Speaker 16: the state is not monolithic. But when with all these changes,

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Speaker 16: you're going to have, you know, all states be blue,

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Speaker 16: all states be red, and you're going to lose the

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Speaker 16: common sense voter, the common since congress person, and we

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Speaker 16: need them now more than ever.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I mean, kind of duvetailing

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Speaker 1: off that conversation, would you care to venture or make

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Speaker 1: any guests on the midterm congressional elections. Republicans going to

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Speaker 1: keep the House? Are they going to lose it? And again,

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Speaker 1: having said that, knowing that the habit is in the

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Speaker 1: history is the party in power in the President's office,

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Speaker 1: in the White House always loses.

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Speaker 16: What do you think generally, yes, they do lose twenty

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Speaker 16: four to twenty five seats. But if you're rearranging the

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Speaker 16: whole order, I can't make a production because I don't

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Speaker 16: know if California, when they pass it, are they going

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Speaker 16: to make every single seat a solid blue? So you know,

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Speaker 16: it can't give a prediction right now.

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Speaker 1: No, I get it. I get it. Well, it'll make

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Speaker 1: election night interesting, I guess. Let me ask you, We're

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Speaker 1: still I don't know what day it is. Somebody's keeping

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Speaker 1: count maybe day ten, twelve whatever of the government shut down.

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Speaker 1: And that's another one, Kevin, You would think that they

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Speaker 1: would be able to find a way to not make

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Speaker 1: this just so crappy like it is. Now, my question

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Speaker 1: to you is who's winning and well, we all, I think,

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Speaker 1: are losing on it. But what party is winning on

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Speaker 1: that issue? What party is losing and why?

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Speaker 3: So that's a very interesting thing. So this is the first.

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Speaker 16: Time that we've had a government shut down where all

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Speaker 16: three you know, the House, the Senate, and the President

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Speaker 16: are all the same. But there was a memo from

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Speaker 16: the White House that came out yesterday that's showing that, yes,

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Speaker 16: Republicans are still being blamed for the you know, the shutdown,

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Speaker 16: but now it's forty four percent to thirty eight percent,

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Speaker 16: where you know, Democrats have had their net favorabilities cut

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Speaker 16: by seventy eight points. So you know, Romp and his

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Speaker 16: team are thinking that if they just keep prolonging.

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Speaker 6: This, that the Democrats are going to it's going to get.

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Speaker 16: To a break even. And if it's a break even,

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Speaker 16: then that's a win for the Republicans because you know,

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Speaker 16: this is always about that seven, eight, ten, twelve points,

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Speaker 16: And I know, people get tired of polling and all that,

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Speaker 16: but that's seven to twelve.

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Speaker 3: Points, whatever it is.

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Speaker 16: Those are the people who swing elections, and that's who

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Speaker 16: you're fighting for right now, if you're trying to fly

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Speaker 16: right now. I know TSA is a nightmare, so we'll

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Speaker 16: probably change who you would vote for. But you know,

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Speaker 16: the government shut down. I mean, I think there's certain

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Speaker 16: things that I wish that both sides could be adults

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Speaker 16: and be like, you know, we need TSA. We don't

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Speaker 16: want another tragedy to happen. But that would require them

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Speaker 16: to be grown ups, and they're not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: That ain't going to happen. I'm looking here at the

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Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics average of polls. Democratic party favorability unfavorable,

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Speaker 1: twenty six no way mate favorability is thirty three percent

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Speaker 1: thirty three six percent favorable, fifty nine point eight percent unfavorable.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen numbers uh that low for a

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Speaker 1: political party with.

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Speaker 16: A question such as this, I mean, I guess the

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Speaker 16: only other time you could probably say this was daring

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Speaker 16: uh W in the House in Crisis of two thousand

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Speaker 16: and eight. You know, Democrats, and we've talked about this

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Speaker 16: before in your show. They are just so aimless because

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Speaker 16: they built their whole party on this guy sucks vote

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Speaker 16: for me instead of what do you stand for? You know,

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Speaker 16: Mindannie AOC may not like their politics, but you know

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Speaker 16: what they stand for, and that's what voters want now.

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Speaker 16: They want authenticity, even if they disagree with you. They

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Speaker 16: want someone who's authentic, and Trump has brought that to politics.

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Speaker 16: And frankly, you know, they're kind of going through what

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Speaker 16: Republicans went through a decade ago. You have Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 16: who was so clueless, out of touch leading the party,

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Speaker 16: and you know, you're kind of seeing this wave that

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Speaker 16: it's coming, regardless if they wanted or not, but the

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Speaker 16: establishment is going to be pushed out. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 16: no prime example that's better in Maine, where there's this upstart.

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Speaker 3: Planter guy who's a oyster person who's.

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Speaker 16: You know, gone really viral, and who do they get

1290
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Speaker 16: a seventy seven year old governor to run in a

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Speaker 16: primary against him? You know, Democrats are just literally doing

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Speaker 16: exactly what Republicans did before twenty sixteen, and it's a

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Speaker 16: battle for essentially the soul of the party. And frankly,

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01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 16: it's kind of like bonding them out for an NBA team.

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Speaker 16: They need to tank, clean house and then bring someone

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Speaker 16: else then because their favorabilities are terrible.

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Speaker 1: No, I hear you, Hey, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: this to Trump's big win earlier in the week at

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Speaker 1: the Mid East peace deal. In my humble opinion, whether

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: you like the man or not, a huge deal and

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01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: getting political about it something that in my opinion, I

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01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: think a lot of others, there is no way on

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: God's green earth Joe Biden or Kamala Harris could have

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: pulled that off. But my question is how does that

1305
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: and it's personal to Trump, but how does that affect

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: that the favorability of the party's potentially affect the midterms?

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm guessing not a lot. How does it affect a

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01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: political climate? I guess is the question?

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, there's a lot of So. First off, you know,

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 16: Joe Biden and them did have a proposal ten months ago.

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 16: It was very similar to this. It didn't go anywhere,

1312
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 16: but Trump did get it through, and regardless of what

1313
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 16: you think of him, this.

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: Is his biggest win. Sure it is.

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Speaker 16: Now the question is will this actually hold? That is

1316
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,919
Speaker 16: a question that is beyond every single person no one knows,

1317
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 16: but it is a major win. I mean, regardless of

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01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 16: what you think of him, you know, I know he's

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01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 16: been campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not a

1320
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 16: kid's trophy at a soccer team.

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: But if this.

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01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 16: Holds, he should get it next year. He should if

1323
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 16: if there are no more deaths, he should get the

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01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 16: Nobel Peace Prize period.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. I know he didn't

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: get it this year, but the person who did get

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01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: it was from a South American country who she dedicated

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: it to Trump, So I don't know.

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 16: Like, listen, if this holds there's no more killing, yes, like,

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 16: regardless of what you think of him. And it's really

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Speaker 16: ironic that his term this time, his foreign policy is

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01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 16: actually viewed higher than his economic policy. Why it's the

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 16: complete inverse of his first term. His domestic policies are

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01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 16: actually underwater. Why his you know, foreign policy is actually

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 16: viewed people are very helped, you know, very happy with it.

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 16: Instead of Teddy Roosevelt, you know, walks off to carry

1338
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 16: a big stick. Trump is chewing gum, yelling and carrying

1339
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 16: a big stick.

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Speaker 6: He's getting it done. But I understand what you're saying

1341
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 6: there is there is a peace policy. Regardless of what

1342
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 6: you think of him, the peace policy is there. He

1343
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 6: got NATO to spend five percent. He's helping Ukraine. So

1344
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 6: like all the complaints of his foreign policy, like you

1345
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 6: might not like the way it's done, but you gotta

1346
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 6: tip the cap.

1347
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: Yep, no question done. Hey, I gotta ask if Shared

1348
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: Brown versus Vivek Ramaswami, I couldn't find any polling on that.

1349
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: I gotta think Vivek is quite a bit ahead your

1350
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: thoughts on that to share and have any chance at

1351
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 1: all pulling that off.

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 16: Well, Shared's running for Senate. That's not against not against

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01:19:54,920 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 16: the back, you know, share it against heus said it

1354
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 16: will be very interesting two three or politicians. So what

1355
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 16: Bernie Marino was really able to do the last time

1356
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 16: was basically say share it. You've been a career politician

1357
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 16: your whole life. Well, John Heathstaid's the exact same thing.

1358
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 16: So you're gonna take away that kind of key element.

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 16: So it's gonna be a dog fight for back. I mean,

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 16: he's walking into.

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Speaker 3: The governor's office.

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Speaker 16: There's not really much debate about that.

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01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: Does it look like the Democratic candidate is going to

1364
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: be Amy acting, so.

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 16: There, you know, so Amy props to her her team.

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: They've been working very very hard.

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01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 16: Tim Ryan, who has ran I don't know how many times,

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 16: is looking like he might jump back in, which it's

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 16: kind of a perfect encapsulation of the Democratic Party right

1370
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 16: now that you have someone who's a fresh blood new

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 16: in that and then someone oldys jumping back in.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's an uphill battle.

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 16: I mean, besides, Ted Strickland went with the last time

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 16: Ohio elected a Democratic governor I think.

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Speaker 3: Which was before my time.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 3: So, And you know, it's just interesting because.

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Speaker 16: Governors races, voters vote different, and like you look at

1379
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 16: a state like Kentucky where they've only had three Republican

1380
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 16: governors since World War Two, governor races are different. So

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01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 16: you know that's gonna win. But on the Senate race,

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01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 16: it's gonna be I would say, he said, the little

1383
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 16: favorability is more favorite to win because of the state's

1384
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 16: demographic Sure, but it is a midterm year and Sherry Brown,

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01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 16: you know what is he like seventeen and one running

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 16: elections something like that, So.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a yeah, it's gonna be a dogfight.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. We've got a couple of questions,

1389
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 1: laffed city council election day coming up, lots of things

1390
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: going on the city, mostly with respect to crime. I

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I kind of think this

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01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: is a year that perhaps strong independence like a Christopher

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01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: Smithman or you know, uh, someone else who's out there

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01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 1: working that hard and you know, everything on the table.

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: Christopher's a friend, but do you think that he's got

1396
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: a shot at punching through? And about the mayor's race,

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, is is the mayor pure of all gonna

1398
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: win that thing?

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Speaker 16: Yes, Thatshab's gonna win. Last regard, he's gonna win by

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 16: fifteen twenty points. The numbers are what the numbers are.

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 16: I mean, you guys got to remember that Harris won

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 16: the city of Cincinnati basically sixty five to thirty five.

1403
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 16: So there's only like twenty five percent registered like Republicans,

1404
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 16: and so all the Republicans who used to live in

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 16: Cincinnati has moved to either northern Kentucky or the subs,

1406
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 16: which has made those areas rider, but has made the

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 16: city bluer now.

1408
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 3: To Smitherman's point.

1409
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 16: Smother Man has a track record in the Trump era

1410
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 16: of being the only candidate to punch through the blue

1411
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 16: wall right in twenty seventeen. One thing that Democrats have

1412
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 16: to kind of worry about is there's lots of like

1413
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 16: legacy names running this time, right. So you have a

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01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 16: smither Man, you have a Keyting, you have a dree House,

1415
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 16: you have a Mallory running right. So when people go

1416
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 16: to vote, they're going to see those names.

1417
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 3: And it's not that.

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 16: They're not going to vote for all Democrats, but they're

1419
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 16: going to see those legacy names and be like, well,

1420
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 16: these are some Democrats.

1421
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: Maybe I want to vote for them and not be endorsed.

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01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 16: So I think it's very possible and probably probable that

1423
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 16: you're going to see seven to eight Democrats of the

1424
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 16: Hamilton County Democratic Party, people who are already on council

1425
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 16: get re elected.

1426
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: But I think smither And.

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 16: If I was a betting man, I think some other

1428
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 16: men's going to pull through. I think the Keating is

1429
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 16: going to be very fascinating. She's the one who I'm

1430
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 16: going to watch a lot, because you know, she.

1431
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 3: Finished just outside the bubble a light time.

1432
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 16: But it'll be really you know, the machines that are

1433
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 16: in play, they do a really good job of turning

1434
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 16: out their voters. And for a city election, it's so

1435
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 16: low of a turnout it just is well, I guess

1436
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 16: you want to look at like fifteen percent.

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: Sure bottom line as we shall see. Kevin, hope we

1438
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: can call on you before the election. That really appreciates

1439
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:38,839
Speaker 1: you spending time with us.

1440
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: Mike, thank you as always.

1441
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, my friend, thank you all right. That is independent

1442
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: political analyst Kevin Burton, always good to get his thoughts

1443
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: on things. Hey, the next segment here from eleven thirty

1444
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: to noon, no guests. So lines are ope and seven

1445
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: four nine seven. The big one are the numbers. If

1446
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of.

1447
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: It, visualization your wallet, stuff to the bridge.

1448
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: We got some people want to be heard. I'm gonna

1449
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. But I have to

1450
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: mention this last night and I didn't watch the game.

1451
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: I thought about it. Dodgers versus Brewers. Winner goes to

1452
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: the World Series, loser goes home. The Dodgers won. That's

1453
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: not the big deal. Show. Hey, O'tani put on a

1454
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: show that I don't think baseball has ever seen before. Well,

1455
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: he actually did set a record. I don't know that

1456
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: they'll ever see it again. Of course, he goes both ways.

1457
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: He pitches, and he bats three home runs, and then

1458
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: his pitching, he goes six innings, gives up two hits,

1459
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: gets ten strikeouts. So, like I said, Dodgers go to

1460
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: the World Series, the Brewers go home. I'm telling you,

1461
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: I like baseball and I follow it. If anyone would

1462
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: have ever asked me before Otani if they thought somebody

1463
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: could pull that off, I'd say, you're crazy, you know,

1464
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: just for the heck of it too, Babe. Ruth pitched

1465
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: for I don't know, probably about four years, beginning his

1466
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: baseball career with the Red Sox. Of course, he got

1467
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees. I just looked just to see

1468
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: if there be anything even close to that. He had

1469
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: a ninety four and ninety four wins forty two losses

1470
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: record pitching. But when he got to the Yankees, maybe

1471
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,520
Speaker 1: he'd pitch once or twice a year. But my goodness,

1472
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: what Otani did last night, I really so much wish

1473
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: I would have watched that, because that would have been exciting.

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: He's in a class all of his own. I mean,

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01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think anybody would have thought

1476
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: that would have happened. Okay, let's get back to the phones.

1477
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: Let me talked to Tim in Florence. Hey, good morning, Tim.

1478
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good.

1479
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 12: What you got Well, I just want to bring up

1480
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 12: one issue we discussed before about Kruse chefs sit in

1481
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 12: and take the country over and never fire a shot

1482
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 12: because it strive from with him. Yes, which that's pretty

1483
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 12: much what we have today, isn't it.

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01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. I'd have to say

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: a very good chance of it.

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01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 12: Because I have one other point he wanted to make. Yeah,

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01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 12: Liberals or Democrats are like hostridges. They stick their head

1488
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 12: in the sand, sort of oblivissed everything around them, and

1489
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 12: then our party puts it for the sundone shot on them,

1490
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 12: if you know what I mean.

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01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I do, Tim. I appreciate the call. Thank you, have

1492
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: a great day, you too. Thanks. You know his point

1493
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: about and I didn't know that. Yeah, Kruse chefs said it. Uh,

1494
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to take you over without firing

1495
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: a shot. I well, the Soviet Union's not going to

1496
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: take us over. They're out the program, they're gone. But

1497
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: the left, I mean the strides that they've made, the

1498
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: advances they've made in the entertainment industry in social media.

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Speaker 1: Then of course that the sewer, the cesspool that is

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01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: today's modern college campus. You got to wonder if some

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: of that might be playing out at some point. Okay,

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01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: who's been on the longest. Let me talk to Louise

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01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and Marie mont. Hey, good morning, Louis.

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01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 15: Hi Mike, Louise here again. Yes, I just want to

1505
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 15: touch on several points of the maid during this program.

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 15: First of all, Mike, I was always perplexed during the

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01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 15: past few years about why all of a sudden our

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01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 15: country is anti israel I mean, and then when you

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01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 15: see the pulling from New York that even the Jewish

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 15: people are going to vote for this guy up there.

1511
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 15: I don't even want to say his name, right, So

1512
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 15: it hit me, Mike, It finally hit me.

1513
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: The change is.

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01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 15: Because Trump derangement syndrome. If Trump was pro Muslim, they

1515
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 15: would be on the reverse side. Oh yeah, you know,

1516
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 15: the Jewish people have always been held in high esteem

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01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 15: and finance in Hollywood everywhere, and now the tide has changed,

1518
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,919
Speaker 15: and that I believe it's now because of Trump's position

1519
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 15: of being pro Israeli and then these college campus Mike,

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01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 15: first of all, these are paid people. I mean I

1521
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 15: confront an Antifa years ago before I even knew what

1522
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,520
Speaker 15: they were down the Fountain Square. They are all these college,

1523
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 15: good looking kids that are paid. I confront of them,

1524
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 15: I made a lift of the mask up. It's all

1525
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 15: about Trump. They're the opposite of Trump. And when it

1526
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 15: hit me this week is when that idiot George Clooney

1527
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 15: and his most Lebanese wife decided to leave the country.

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01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 15: Amen on that she's a Muslim and what bothers me here, Mike,

1529
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 15: and I don't want to sound like approved. I am

1530
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 15: an old lady the Muslims. If these people are really

1531
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 15: pro Muslim, why are they all dressing like I don't

1532
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 15: know if I could say hook on the line, but

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01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 15: I am the women dress them modestly, including George Clooney's wife,

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01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 15: who herself is a Muslim. So if they truly believe

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01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 15: and what they're supposedly saying they believe, they be modestly dressed.

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01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 15: I'm not saying they have to wear the whole garb,

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01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 15: but they wouldn't be dressed so immodestly when they're protesting.

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01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: No, I hear you, hey, Louise, I got a lot

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01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 1: of calls. I'm gonna respond to your call, but I

1540
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling. Thank you, all right, you know what

1541
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean. She hit the nail on the head there.

1542
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: I do not I've said this a million times on

1543
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: this show. I do not understand the rise in anti Semitism.

1544
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I understand how it's happening, why it's happening, but it

1545
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: is something that in my lifetime, and yeah, we learned,

1546
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean even in grade school about the Holocaust, but

1547
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I really don't get it.

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01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: In her point, it's tied into Trump derangement syndrome. There's

1549
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 1: probably something to that, but anti Semitism is not something

1550
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: that I thought just about everybody else the United States

1551
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: of America would be dealing with in the year twenty

1552
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: twenty five. It just absolutely floors me. Okay, let's see,

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01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: let's talk to Pete in Whitehall. Hey, Pete, Hey, good.

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01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 9: Mor sir, hey.

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01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 17: I wanted to follow up on the awesome mister Smitherman.

1556
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, and he.

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01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 17: Comment he made, uh that on common sense. A beautiful,

1558
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 17: striking woman told me one day that common sense has

1559
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 17: become a superpower.

1560
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 2: That is that is that is I haven't heard it.

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01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 17: Better put than that that the left has no shame,

1562
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 17: they have no account of and they have no plan

1563
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 17: to create a better America. It's only tear it down,

1564
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,520
Speaker 17: Thank you very much, Mike, okay, program.

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01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Thanks Pete. Yeah, you know what, And that makes perfect sense.

1566
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the common sense is at a premium, and

1567
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: all the Democrats do is want to tear things down.

1568
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: You know, I would challenge someone give me three three

1569
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: initiatives that the left slash Democrat Party the same thing

1570
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: have tried to get through in the last three years.

1571
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 1: It's nothing other than hate Trump, hate Trump, hate Trump,

1572
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: try to obstruct him at every angle. And you know,

1573
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: the numbers and the Republican numbers on favorability aren't all

1574
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: that hot either, but they're a heck of a lot

1575
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: better than the Democrats. So I think he makes some

1576
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: good points. And man, you'd like to see some common

1577
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: sense come back, but common sense in politics sometimes, unfortunately,

1578
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: just don't jibe. Let's talk to Frank. Hey, Good morning, Frank.

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01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 18: Good morning, Mike.

1580
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 10: How you doing.

1581
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 15: Cirtain.

1582
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. What you got good? I'm with you.

1583
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 18: First of all, I kicked myself that I didn't watch

1584
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 18: that game put on assistance, saying.

1585
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Can you believe that?

1586
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 18: No, those stats are like something out of a video game,

1587
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 18: and it was just unreal.

1588
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1589
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: I like that.

1590
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 18: So listen real quick. The independent journalists that you had

1591
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 18: on earlier, I'm not sure his name, but he does

1592
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 18: a wonderful job.

1593
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: Well, he's not a journalist, he's a political analyst.

1594
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 18: That's just an analyst. Sorry, what's his name, Kevin Burton? Burton, Yeah,

1595
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 18: he does a great job. So he made a point

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01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 18: that I just want to say, and you agreed with

1597
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 18: him that I just want to like echo and stream

1598
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 18: in the mountaintop, and that is that we need to

1599
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 18: put something in place nationwide or more universal that just

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01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 18: makes more of a level playing field as far as

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01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 18: a portunate and drawing of districts. And I think that's something,

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01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 18: you know, as divisive as the country is, you know,

1603
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 18: talk about polls pulling actually shows for most of the

1604
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 18: major issues, the majority of the country agrees. It's just

1605
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 18: the you know, the the extremes on each side that

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01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 18: are allowedest I believe, but I think most Americans that's

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01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 18: something that they would want. Additionally, you know, not to

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01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 18: go down this rabbit hole but campaign finance and fixing

1609
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 18: that and getting all the dark money bs out of

1610
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 18: politics is another thing that most Americans would agree on.

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01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 18: So you got two points that probably with bipartisan support,

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01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 18: you could easily pass a couple of amendments. But it's

1613
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,879
Speaker 18: never going to happen. It's never going to happen, and

1614
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 18: it's because politics is as dirty as it is on

1615
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 18: both sides, and it's a shame.

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01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: So it's never it's never been this bad. It really hasn't. Frank,

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01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: it's awful. And I agree with you completely. Oh like

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01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: this budget thing, my god, couldn't they work out a

1619
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: procedure where we don't have to go through this? I'm

1620
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: not playing the other side on that.

1621
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree.

1622
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 18: It's like both sides of like five year old saying

1623
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 18: I'm gonna hold my breath, like get my way. It's

1624
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 18: it's disgusting, it's it's absurd. So I wish our politicians

1625
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 18: were working more bipartisan fashion because there's a lot of

1626
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 18: major issues that they could get done that could really

1627
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 18: fix the country in positive way. But it's unfortunate that,

1628
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 18: you know, none seem too eager to do that.

1629
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: You're so right about that. Thanks for the call.

1630
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 18: Frank, absolutely, thank you, sir.

1631
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: You have a wonderful weekend, you too, thank you. Oh

1632
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see, let's see. How about Tom in date?

1633
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: And Hey Tom, how are you?

1634
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 13: Hey Mike, first time caller. You know, if Amy Act

1635
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 13: is running for governor, she's got an awful lot of

1636
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 13: goall in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, she made

1637
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 13: all the wrong decisions about COVID, you know, making us

1638
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 13: wear masks and shutting down businesses and recommending the genetic

1639
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 13: COVID shot. You know, I don't think she should be

1640
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 13: anywhere near me making decisions for the entire state. Remember

1641
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 13: that was all for a virus that had a survival

1642
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 13: rate of ninety nine point seven percent and an average

1643
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 13: age of death of eighty years old. And she had

1644
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 13: a shut down all of Ohio for that, and you

1645
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 13: know Governor DeWine went right along with her recommendations. So

1646
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 13: it's just terrible. And you know, the COVID shots not

1647
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 13: only that, they've caused a lot of damage amongst people.

1648
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 13: Right side effects. I've been tracking this unusual side effect

1649
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 13: of these white fibrous clots and the balmers and finding

1650
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 13: in corpses for the last four years. I was on

1651
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 13: Gary Jeff Walker show this last Monday talking about it again.

1652
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 13: So just one of to let your audience know that

1653
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 13: this woman should be nowhere near running our state after

1654
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 13: such poor decision making skills and twenty twenty one.

1655
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Tom, thanks for the call. I'm gonna

1656
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: address it. Yeah, I mean, she's not going anywhere. She's

1657
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: nobody is going to beat the vag Ramaswami and it

1658
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: just st ain't happening. And uh uh, I think that

1659
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: you know she's got I think she's got a primary challenge.

1660
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: We were talking to mister Burton about that, but now

1661
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: I can't recall. Uh there's some other Democrat that I

1662
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 1: think wants to do it. But she or any other

1663
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: Democrat for that matter, is not going to beat Ramaswami.

1664
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: My goodness, he got out so early on that thing,

1665
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: and he's even got two or three unions supporting him,

1666
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: So I don't think we need to worry about that.

1667
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,839
Speaker 1: How about Mike in Columbus and then Marsha Hey, Mike.

1668
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 11: Hey, Mike, how you doing.

1669
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm good what you got.

1670
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 11: It's a pleasure to speak with you again after all

1671
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 11: this time. Listening to you, it would be really easy

1672
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 11: to just parrot everything you say because I agree one

1673
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 11: hundred percent, thank you with every perspective you have. I'm i'm,

1674
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 11: i'm I'm a little different topic here, and that's the

1675
01:37:55,479 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 11: National Guard situation. I'm a little perplexed why with all

1676
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 11: the pushback that we're receiving from the mayors and the

1677
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 11: governors of these cities that have these ridiculous crime rates,

1678
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 11: and who President Trump wishes or has in fact sent

1679
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 11: in guard if they want to bitch and moan about

1680
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 11: this like they are of the opinion. And plus, if

1681
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 11: you agree with me that the majority of people in Chicago,

1682
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 11: or in Tennessee, in Memphis, or wherever it happens to

1683
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 11: be where these crimes, the majority the people want the

1684
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 11: crime eradicated. They don't care how it's done. They are

1685
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 11: fed up with the crime. And you've got these squeaky

1686
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 11: wheels who you know, couch out to the mayors and

1687
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 11: the governors who are going to have this Trump derangement

1688
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 11: syndrome and say we don't want them here, Get them

1689
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 11: the heck out. I say take them out. I say

1690
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 11: get them out. Don't send them into these cities that

1691
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 11: don't want them there. Let the cities go through the

1692
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 11: crime that we expect that they will, okay, and if

1693
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 11: we're not afraid that we're wrong, let them go through

1694
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 11: the crime that they're going to go through. And then

1695
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 11: those people who haven't spoken out, but the silent majority,

1696
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 11: are going to go to the governor and to the

1697
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 11: mayor and say, listen, we're not going to take us anymore.

1698
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 11: We don't care what you do. Bring in the guard,

1699
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 11: and it'll be at that point that we prove the

1700
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 11: point that they needed it all along and that this

1701
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 11: is nothing more than a complicit movement against Donald Trump.

1702
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 11: I don't understand why we're so hell bent on going

1703
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 11: ahead and sending these troops in now. I get that

1704
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 11: the President doesn't want to see any more death and destruction.

1705
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 11: That was true in the Israel as well as the

1706
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 11: Russian conflicts. But at some point you have to say,

1707
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 11: if you're not wanted there, and all we're going to

1708
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 11: do is have these constant rebel causes against us, say

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Speaker 11: enough is enough. We ain't going you deal with it,

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Speaker 11: have a nice day. Can you explain to me what's

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01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 11: wrong with that philosophy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to let you go here. Thank you, Mike.

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01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. You know what I mean. He

1714
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: makes a good point. I remember in Minneapolis. I guess

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Speaker 1: it was during the George Floyd Bryants. My god, that town,

1716
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: A good chunk of it was burned down pretty badly.

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01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know. I guess that would

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01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: be one option to say to the cities, you take

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01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: care of your own self here and forget about any

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01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: help from US. I guess my thought is, what kind

1721
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: of governor, what kind of mayor, what kind of elected

1722
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 1: official would argue against help with crime? Why would you

1723
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, it's going to directly benefit the

1724
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,480
Speaker 1: citizens your constituency. But that's the state of the Democratic

1725
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 1: Party now. They don't want the increased protection. But it's

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01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see all this plays out.

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01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: That question, I think is before the Supreme Court, So

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01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Hey, i'm out of time, Marcia.

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01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for call, and I promise I'll

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01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: get to you next week if you call. Hey, I'm

1731
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: out of here. But well, first of all, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank my excellent producer Liam for keeping me out

1733
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: of trouble every week and Sunday night from ten to

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Speaker 1: one am. My son and I are doing Willie's national

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01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: show Coast to coast, so that's always fun. If you're up,

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Speaker 1: kind of tune us in. Mike Allen seven