WEBVTT - Sterling Friday Night -- 12/19/25 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.480 Those frequently, but here we are strange days. I guess 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:09.000 indeed political director and a guy who knows a thing 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:14.360 or two about the normalization of marijuana laws. Apparently last 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.680 week when we were talking about where the law stood 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.200 in Ohio and to wine signing changes into place, we 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.239 also mentioned classification of the drug. And that is with 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.680 an executive order from President Trump, almost as if he 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.400 or someone was listening, has made an alteration to the 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.720 way stuff is being done in these United States. Can 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.720 you break down what this change in classification means? 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.680 Well, Basically, what the President did was direct federal agencies 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.920 to restart the process that was began under the Biden 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.040 administration to move cannabis from. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.920 Schedule one to Schedule three. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.640 Under Schedule one, cannabis would be defined as a drug 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.120 with no accepted medical uses within the United States and 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.720 high potential for abuse, and moved to Schedule three just 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.360 validates what millions of patients and consumers and thousands of 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.759 researchers and medical professionals already know, which is that cannabis 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.040 clearly does have medical uses and has a much lower 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.360 potential for abuse than drugs that aren't even on the schedules, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:21.160 such as tobacco and alcohol. And unfortunately, this does not 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:27.440 happen automatically. This is an ongoing process and is also 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.480 open to legal challenge, which you know, we have already 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:35.120 heard that opponents of cannabis policy reform are already preparing, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.600 so it could be months, if not years, before this 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.200 change actually comes to pass. But I do think that 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:48.640 it's important to recognize that, you know, this is something 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.559 that a lot of prohibitionist lawmakers and other policy makers 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.080 have leaned on for a long time, this Schedule one status, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.240 and they won't touch cannabis issues until cannabis is move 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.560 from Schedule one. So the fact that President Trump has 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.640 decided to at least put his stamp on this, I 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.840 think is going to be really kind of revolutionary in 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.080 terms of changing the conversation around the substance and the 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.639 policies that regulated. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.120 Talking to Morgan Fox, he's the political director for Normal 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.000 Sterling seven hundred WLW. So it means something, but it 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.080 actually means nothing at least in the innum, I guess. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.080 But a lot of talk has been about research and 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.040 having access to, if not just the ability for universities 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.880 and other organizations to actually check a lot of the 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.160 things that Normal and other organizations have talked about with 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.840 the benefits of cannabis use in some fashion correct well. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.359 Interestingly, rescheduling to Schedule three doesn't really impact research all 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.760 that much. Cannabis is already one of the most heavily 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:59.600 studied psychoactive substances on the planet, and many of the 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.200 barrier to research have already been removed by Congress in 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:08.480 the previous sessions, and one of the major barriers to 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:14.400 research specifically the fact that it is difficult, if not impossible, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:18.160 for researchers to be able to study in a clinical setting, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.240 not just observational studies, the effects of products that people 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:30.079 can access in legal markets like Ohio's without Basically they're 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.960 unable to access these products that people are actually using 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.360 and are forced to study cannabis via products that are 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:41.400 produced in federally approved labs is really setting scientists back, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.520 and moving cannabis Schedule three is not necessarily going to 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.160 change that. That's going to take an Act of Congress 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:53.520 or significant changes within both the FDA and the DEA. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.480 So Morgan Fox, political director for Normal, Sterling seven hundred WLW. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.040 So it moves a little bit in the right direction 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.880 it takes away some of the stigma. The classification goes 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.880 away from I guess what is it a heroin and 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.520 cocaine and puts it at a level with say, alcohol 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:09.320 and some other stuff. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:09.800 Is that right? 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.960 I'm just trying to make sense of it's a benefit 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.520 to have the President change this with an executive order, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 aside from the time it takes to really go into 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.560 actually making a difference, I've just been trying to figure 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.000 out what the difference really is. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.839 Well, the primary difference is that state licensed cannabis businesses 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.720 will now be able to deduct normal business expenses on 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.680 their federal taxes, whereas previously they were not able to 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.120 do so. And again this is contingent on this process 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.680 actually moving forward in a timely manner. But once cannabis 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.719 is moved to Schedule three, then cannabis businesses will no 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.640 longer be subject to what's called the two to ade 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.520 tax code, which prevents them from deducting normal business expenses, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.360 resulting in effective federal tax rates of anywhere from fifty 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.400 to eighty percent. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.600 And that's on top of the already exorbitant. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:09.320 State level taxes and local taxes, and the incredibly exorbitant 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:15.320 costs associated with regulatory compliance. So if and when this 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.320 does finally happen, that will be a huge boon for 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:21.360 licensed providers. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.479 Gotcha, Okay, So I mean it makes sense. I kind 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.279 of understand. But it's just a very odd gray area 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.400 for something that grows arguably even wildly, and people have 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.920 been using since before the country existed. It is still 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.960 sort of a strange thing. Political director from Normal, which 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.320 is the National Organization for a Reform of Marijuana Laws, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.320 Morgan Fox, was sterling on the big one. What else 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.560 do you is relevant to this change when it finally 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.520 does come since that actually has been signed, and then 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.840 I want to ask you about now Governor DeWine saying 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.320 he is going to sign this order from the lawmakers 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.599 in Columbus that we talked about a week ago, moving 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.800 ahead and making changes to some of the I guess 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.520 you'd call it hemp products that have been sort of 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.480 under the radar and carved out in that farm bill. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.159 Well, I think that the most immediate impact is going 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.120 to be that the fact that the President has supported 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:21.280 this move will hopefully encourage Republican lawmakers both in Congress 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.240 and at the state level to take this easy more 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.400 seriously and will embolden some of them who have been 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.440 privately supportive of cannabis policy reformed to be more publicly 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:37.400 supportive of it and pursue rational and sensible policies as 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:42.520 opposed to continuing to double down on prohibition. In terms 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:47.680 of what it means for Ohio, and with the recent 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:53.600 hemp restrictions that were included in the Continuing Resolution budget initiative, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.239 you know, I think that that remains to be seen 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.560 at the end of the day, though I think it's 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.800 important to note that cannabis is still illegal and just, 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:08.160 and the federal government has not been really expending a 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.040 lot of resources to try to interfere with stay level 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.960 programs like Ohio's, and I think that we can probably 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:21.120 expect a similar resource devotion when it comes to hemp products. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.480 The possibility exists because of the way things have been, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.920 even though there have been modest changes and maybe even 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.920 more than modest changes the last few years with the 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.080 voters in Ohio and others across the country, but still 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.440 issues of effectively normalizing it for one of a better 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.720 way to describe it in how it's dealt with. So, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.680 what would you tell someone who is a senior citizen 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:50.200 who maybe is going to the dispensary or going to 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.520 that corner market that at this point is selling that 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.520 product that had been in the gray area and will 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.240 be I guess for a better part of another year 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.720 or so, or someone else who's thinking that because there's 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.760 a lot of CBD shops, there's a lot of these 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.960 other things aside from the dispensaries. I think there's one 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.800 hundred and seventy seven or something across the state that 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:13.080 are legally from recreational as well as the prescription type medicinal. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.160 I would encourage everybody that is interested in any sort 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:22.640 of cannabinoid products to go to licensed and regulated sources 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:27.160 for those products. Don't buy things from gas stations, don't 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.560 buy things online because there are a lot of good 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.280 actors in that space, but there's a lot of bad 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.800 actors too, And you really don't know what sort of 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:39.040 adulterance or what sort of production methodologies or standards that 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.160 people have used for making these products when you're outside 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.880 of the state licensed system. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.760 It is a normal norml dot Org and we're talking 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.719 to Morgan Fox, political director. I've had them on the 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.520 show a bunch over the years, and I appreciate it. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.400 I think it's probably the shortest window of time we've 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.800 had you on in between segments, but it seemed like 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.160 noteworthy to just sort of get to this now, completely 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.160 off the beaten path. You are making hot sauce, and 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.240 I know that we weren't. We talked about it off 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.040 the air. How much hot sauce are you making? And 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.199 I realize it's not a commercial product, but I mean, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.480 how you get into the business of making hot sauce? 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.640 And like, are you the guide that all your friends 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.800 and family go to when they're looking for some sauce 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:21.800 for their food and stuff? 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.400 Interestingly enough, you know, the regulatory hurdles that I'm having 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.120 to jump through are pretty similar to those in cannabis 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:36.040 in order to ensure consumer safety. But if and when 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.320 I'm able to finally get Mofo's Lava Flow on the shelves, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.280 you can be sure that all of the ingredients are 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:45.960 grown on my garden. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.400 Mofos Lava Flow. This is a great name. I like 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.560 it and I look forward to sampling it center than later. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.000 Is there anything I haven't asked about? 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:55.760 Normal? 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.200 And about this change from the President's desk to the 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.480 wine's desk in Columbus or anything else related to this. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:03.760 Well. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.840 Specific to Ohio, we recently saw the legislature pass SB 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.040 fifty six, which I think was kind of pushed through. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.360 Because of the desire to. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:20.880 Restrict the access to unregulated hemp derived or hemp synthesized 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.240 products that were proliferating throughout the state without any sort 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.280 of age gating and without any sort of regulatory oversight 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:33.199 in terms of quality and safety, entirely separate from the 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.320 licensed cannabis system that has existed since of voters approved 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.840 Issue too. Unfortunately, that bill also included a number of 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:47.840 provisions that recriminalized behavior that ohioan's had been responsibly enjoying 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.640 for a couple of years now. So if and when 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.719 it appears very likely that the Wine is going to 0:10:54.800 --> 0:11:00.560 sign this, it's going to be illegal for anybody to 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.320 possess cannabis that does not originate in Ohio unless you 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.760 can prove that you purchased or grew that cannabis in Ohio, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:13.480 you will be subject to the same penalties that people 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.959 were subject to prior to the passage of issue too. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.880 So anybody traveling in from out of state, including like Kentucky, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.480 medical cannabis patients, people coming in from Michigan, et cetera. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.679 Are now going to be subject to arrest. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.200 That's not good. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.760 Not only that, but I think, and this is one 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.319 of the things that a lot of people have overlooked. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:41.080 The legislature also removed civil protections for cannabis consumers, for 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:48.400 discrimination in terms of employment, housing, child custody. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.200 And a number of other issues. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.400 And there was absolutely no justification offered for this, and 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.160 it just slid through and nobody was paying attention to it, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:01.599 aside from normal and our allies at OSU and that 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.640 Dark Policy Alliance. And it's it's really really frustrating that 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.560 the legislature just decided to completely overturn the will of 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.480 the people when it came to protecting responsible canvas users. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.000 It's a strange thing considering, you know, the idea that 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.240 voters made a choice and read what they were voting for, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.400 and then of course lawmakers said that people didn't know 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.400 what they were reading and didn't understand it. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.480 But it's a slap in the face. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.360 Yeah, it really is. Well, I appreciate your time. It 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.440 puts a lot of people who are in the you know, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.520 the Commonwealth of Kentucky or back and forth to Michigan. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.240 This burden of proof on the consumer rather than on 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.520 someone else who's pointing the finger at you is kind 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.200 of difficult, and I don't see anything good coming from. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.160 This, no. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.480 I mean, it's going to result in thousands of unnecessary arrests. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.440 And you know another thing that I should point out 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.080 to your listeners. You will have to transport cannabis in 0:12:55.240 --> 0:13:00.439 a either a sealed container it's original packaging unopened, or 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.160 it has to be in your trunk or in an 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.480 area that's inaccessible to the driver going forward. Otherwise you 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.520 will be subject to arrest and prosecution. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.920 And in that point, if they get a hit from 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.760 a drug dog or something else and it's in the 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.600 right place, even though you may have a prescription or 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.120 it is recreational and legally purchased, they can still get 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.640 into your car, tear out your car, and then charge 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.719 you if you don't have somehow a paper trail to 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.560 prove you have a receipt that it came from this 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.720 location or something along those lines. I mean, this could 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.120 get really ticky tacky in the way that this is prosecuted. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.120 Correct, and it's not only going to result in a 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.240 lot of unnecessary arrests. It's also going to be a 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.360 huge tax on law enforcement and those resources could be 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:46.280 better spend elsewhere. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.280 And just one more thing here, because I mean, I 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.760 don't think anyone and I know that last time we 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.520 had you on and I brought this type of stuff 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.800 up before, and I've had callers also mentioned it. Morgan Fox, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.280 by the way, his political director from Normal with Stirling 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.440 on seven hundred WLW, is you're negotiating where we stand 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.480 on the law now and where it was before it 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.520 gets into such a I guess it's a tricky area 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.000 as far as what's legal, what is not legal, and 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:18.040 culpability for anybody getting involved and engaging with pointing the 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.920 finger at somebody for doing something that is not illegal, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.240 but you're not advocating for you know, kids buying it 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.200 or you know, misusing it or selling it otherwise or 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.280 anything other along those lines, because a lot of times 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.120 people come out and say, well, this is just wanting 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.680 you know, people are wanting anything to go on no 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:35.400 rules at all. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.160 Quite the opposite. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.880 I mean, legalization and regulation is the only way to 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.520 provide things like age gating and quality control testing for products, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.880 to improve public safety. You know, I think a lot 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.640 of people say like, oh, well, legalization is just going 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.480 to you know, lead to lots of kids getting high. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.600 But when you look at the research, we've seen that 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.520 not only had as you've us not gone up in 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.800 legalization states, in many cases, it's actually gone down. And 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.640 you know, the the idea that you know, somehow legalization 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:16.160 is introducing a new substance into society is just frankly ridiculous. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.960 Normal is working to reform marijuana laws and their political 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.520 director is Morgan Fox. I appreciate you making time. I 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.280 hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend. I'm looking 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.480 forward to some of that mofos lava flow sauce and 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.040 we'll see how that gets going regulations and all the 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.280 hoops that you have to go through. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.920 I'm looking forward to tasting that as well. Thank you 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:35.280 for sir. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.840 I can still gift you some without it being FDA approved. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:40.320 We can do that too. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.120 Slow as the guy adian Rocky in the afternoon, don't 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.880 snake my sauce. I'm in good shape. We'll look forward 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.040 to it. Thank you, Morgan, enjoy your weekend, have a 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.480 great holiday as well. Christmas Time, New year's and all 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.040 thanks you too, sir. Yes, sir, it's Morgan Fox, political director, Normal, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.080 Quick break, come back, your chance to be heard on 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.120 the Nation station seven hundred WL double hanging out the weekend. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.680 Here, seven hundred wul W. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.360 Sean McMahon, keep me in line, Jack Cromley, what knows 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.800 in about four minutes in your night first twenty forecast 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:11.240 right now down to twenty five tonight near fifty for Saturday. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.440 This has been whiplash weather. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.000 A week ago it was the white Death coming the 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.800 snow apocalypse which we dealt was Saturday into Sunday and 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.920 all that mess and and then what else. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.080 Yeah, so it's. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.920 Warmer than it's cooler and pneumonia weather's what my grandmother 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.840 would call it. Close to forty on Sunday. Bengals don't 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.680 have to worry about that. They'll be in South Florida 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.240 taken on those dolphins and hopefully we'll find a way 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.960 to win again into the first of the week. About 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.760 forty Right now, it's twenty seven your severe Weather station, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:43.560 seven hundred wul W. Good conversation there, Morgan Fox from Normal, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:48.080 their political director, talking about Mike Dwine signing that bill 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:53.280 which has changed the legal and illegal lines that had 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.560 been blurred the thanks to the farm bill and the 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.120 cannabis that was a part of it was a what 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.440 do they call it, intoxicating hemp rather than I guess 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.080 the other weed. And then also the beverage business, which 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.080 I know a whole lot of people who like to 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.159 enjoy their adult beverages, which is not just alcohol but 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.680 also the THC in it. But apparently that's going to 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.119 go bye by, which seems quite weird to me. But 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.480 you know, nobody really wanted anyone to have an ability 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.760 to make decisions for themselves anyway, apparently, at least those 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.480 in Columbus. Better part of sixty fifty seven fifty eight 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.600 percent of Ohio voters read the law as it was 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.600 written initially and said yea to it. And here we 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.520 are five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.600 the big one. I don't know how many people this 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.560 really affects me and what I mean by that, and 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:48.520 it will cause problems. But people have been smoking weed 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.399 in one form or another for longer than this has 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.520 been a country, and they will continue to do it 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.800 and consume it in a multitude of different ways. Having 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.400 some control over at ice PDEs does make sense. Certainly, 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.919 nobody wants kids having access to it, no different than 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.040 alcohol or cigarettes or any other type of substance such 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.199 as that that may alter their state of mind and 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.680 so forth. So we'll see exactly how it goes. I think, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.720 fine upstanding citizens who handle their business responsibly, you're just 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.840 going to scratch their head and go, well, you know, 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.119 maybe nothing will really change in the way they go 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.760 about their daily lives. But people have been used to 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.600 going to a smoke shop that is not one of 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.359 those one hundred and seventy seven government sanctioned ones. You know, 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.560 you're going to have to find a new place to go. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.359 And certainly those businesses that have employed some people, whether 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.320 it's brewing, THC, beverages or otherwise, are going to have 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.320 to navigate the waters of exiting that business sooner than later. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.560 And we'll see how many jobs are lost and so 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.520 forth to go along with that. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.280 But all for the kids. It's to make the world safer. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.840 I suppose other stuff in the news speaking about making 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.000 the world safer. The Epstein files dirt on that in 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.320 the news with Crumbley in about a minute and ten 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.920 seconds or so, and then we'll give you also a 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.560 chance to talk on that a little bit later. A 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.679 dump of a bunch of files, a bunch of pictures, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.160 a bunch of other information, and a whole lot of redaction. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.280 So I guess we'll wade through that. I don't know 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.080 if that has soothed the itch and put a salve 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.240 on the wonderings of those looking for justice and some 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.520 type of outing of those who were into taking advantage 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.240 of sums that have been sex trafficked and abused or 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.000 otherwise by Epstein and Maxwell and who knows who else. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.359 We'll dive into that a bit later as well. After 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.040 the news though, my man Kevin Carr, silver Gecko on 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.760 the Substack, and my former partner in the Chubby and 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.119 Stick podcast will join us and we'll talk on bo 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.479 what is new in theaters and what is going on? 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.840 And if I'm not mistaked, well well I'm not even 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.720 what is he talking about? Is this an Avatar weekend? 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.800 I think it might be the Avatar weekend. I think 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.080 there may be a whole lot of people. I don't 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.439 know that people paint themselves blue. I just imagine a 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.119 mishap at riverbend in the summertime in a porta potty 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.840 when people have gone nuts and you've been in line 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.119 too long, and then they knock it over and then 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.240 the blue juice turns you blue like a smurf. But 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.600 I don't think that's really what the movie's about. He'll 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.840 break it down after the news. Crumbley has it more 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.879 sterling coming back Nation Station Friday Night where the Hooda 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:28.280 plays Sunday seven hundred WLW. My good friend Kevin Carr, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.000 silver Gecko on the substack back on the big one, Kevin, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.840 do you feel festive? Do you feel jolly? Like the 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.000 dead Burrel lives is just in the distance, singing softly? 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.080 Are you just seeing it? Because I'm a little chubby 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.160 and have a big, big fluffy bear. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.520 I can either confirm nor tony. I feel holly and 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.639 jolly myself right now, and I am about half the 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:48.439 man I used to be. 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.679 As long as as long as Holly and Jolly have consented, 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:52.520 then that's good. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.040 You know that's true. That's true. Especially with everything else 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.399 in the news. I get like everything written certified, and 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.240 if I could possibly find somebody notarize it. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.000 I would design field and delivered. Man. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.639 Yes, sir, how are you feeling Hell's everything? Is this 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.880 officially Christmas weekend? Everybody tells me that. I know, They're like, oh, yeah, 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.280 maybe we're taking time off, we're going on vacation, we're 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.200 getting on the road roads, were busy on the way 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:17.720 in tonight. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.200 Oh yeah, Well because it's it's like it's because already 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.840 everybody does Christmas. Even Christmas Day is kind of this 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.919 one two punch, and you know, the Friday to twenty 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.600 six that's absolutely rolling into a long Christmas weekend. But 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:38.040 it's really more Christmas Week Christmas ten days, because yeah, 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.440 I mean, if I I had a job, I could 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.919 take off, you know, you take off Monday and Tuesday 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.240 and enjoy the Wednesday and Thursday. Like back when I 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.320 had my kids, when the kids were little, I mean 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.639 I saw kids, but they're grown now. But when my 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:58.160 kids were little, a week like this was the holly holliest, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:03.000 jolliest part because you could do stuff Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.880 My wife, as a teacher, was off on vacation and 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:10.000 the kids were home. So so yeah, I mean absolutely, 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.720 this is a great sort of time for Christmas to 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.880