1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: All right, pull up here, pull up, we got some 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: guests in the building. Hi, everybody, it's the After Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Maddie Damon Power of Recovery, as teased, are here in 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: the studio. What's up, gentlemen already know not much, Maddie. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you right now, and I see you 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: have a power of Hope sweatshirt on. Congrats on the 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: grand opening that I was not invited to. But it's okay. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Apparently he doesn't have social media. It's broken. 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know we're not really welcome. Did you 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: see that. I think there was several invice. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: No, I saw a post of everyone celebrating at the facility. 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: So you didn't see the month and a half leading 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: out to and. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: So you just don't follow us. And I had my 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: blinders on it. 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: Okay, So say that I wasn't paying attention, Maddie. 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Sorry I missed you. 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it looked amazing. 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 20 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: I think we are the ones who should be offended. 21 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: To be honest, I believe he just didn't show up. 22 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: This is not true. See how it turned on you though, 23 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: But also, when can I get a power of hope 24 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: sweat I'm wearing my power of recovery. 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah you so fly in the flag man. We love that. 26 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to bring one next month. 27 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: I get a lot of compliments on this sweatshirt that 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: that's a nice it's a really nice one. It fits 29 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: me good. I have like three different ones. This one 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: fits me the best, but the other ones are great. 31 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: But I lost a little weight to the Okay, I've 32 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: been working. 33 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 5: Hard, guy, I haven't. 34 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 3: Then pepsides, you look fine, you look great. No, dude, 35 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: he's eating like a pig. 36 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: Man. 37 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: It's it's disgusting. Well you would know, yeah, I mean 38 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: I'm by his side all the time. I got to 39 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: feed him sloppy pizza and eating every day. He ate 40 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: like a three and two foot subjest that it was wild. 41 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Are you okay? Yeah? 42 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well somebody gotta eat breakfast. 43 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Are you hitting the gym at least? 44 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: Dude, you're breaking up with these headphones? 45 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 6: No? 46 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: No, dude, he's like you. He he's in conjunction. So 47 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: if if if it's on, it's on, the eating's proper. 48 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: The gym's like. But when it's not, he's like, I'm 49 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: gonna eat myself to death. And then hopefully make it 50 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: to the gym next month. 51 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I fail that so much. 52 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah over here, like I'm just saying, I look good. 53 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: He lives on French fries and pizza. 54 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Still look good. 55 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked about your diet before. Damon, you're very 56 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: similar to my son, who's eight years old. You basically 57 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: eat like a child. 58 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: I see, I see what you did that, and uh yeah, 59 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm not fighting it. I used to, you know, it 60 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: used to be a very difficult subject for me, and 61 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: Maddie would protect me, like you can't ask Damon about 62 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: his food. He's embarrassed. 63 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: And okay, how about this one? So uh, I don't 64 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: know if he announced this at all. But Billy's son 65 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Alex Costa, who everyone most of the people are listening 66 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: know he does consulting in the in the addiction community 67 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: and does work with you guys on power recovery. Do 68 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: you know about his diet or no? 69 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: I don't you know. What I know is exactly like you. 70 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: No, No, he's not had he never had meat, has 71 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: never had steak, has never had any kind of chicken. 72 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm sure he said me no straight Waidoh then yeah, yeah, 73 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: you think you know somebody. 74 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy. I was on I was on 75 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: a zoom meeting with the other day. He's he's all 76 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: of that going on, and he's drinking a giant bottle 77 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: of Saratoga water like this, like two foot long bodilies 78 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: like this. It was, yeah, I know, just like that. 79 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: I made sure to let him know what he looked like, like, oh, 80 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure you never had meat before, bro, Like. 81 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: No, it's a serious it's a serious thing. When they 82 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: were when they were he was a kid at Thanksgiving, 83 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: he would have a separate little table for himself and 84 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: then have to like feed him different food. When he 85 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: goes to restaurants, high end ones, he eats first. He's 86 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: only ever had pizza, French fries, chicken fingers, bread. 87 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Sounds familiar. 88 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 7: But I. 89 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: Have a new best friend, haha, Maddie. 90 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the outs with I always find myself 91 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: on the outs. 92 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 3: You know what, though, like we can this is one 93 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: thing and you call it whatever you want to call it. 94 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: But when we go somewhere, he can he I can 95 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: sit down, I go to the bathroom, I can show 96 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: up late, and he can order my whole meal phone. 97 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 98 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, he knows you, Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I 99 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: know you can identify with this YouTube, Damon, but you 100 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Maddie with the food thing. So I feel like when 101 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I go off right, when I feel like I'm gonna 102 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: eat fucking ship food, this thing, this addiction kicks in, 103 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to fucking eat myself to death, 104 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Like I want to eat until I hate myself, and 105 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: then I do, and then I hate myself. 106 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: I welcome and identify. I told said it in a 107 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: meeting the other night. I can make anything unhealthy my 108 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: sick brain. I can make broccoli unhealthy. I can use 109 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: it to where it will hurts you. 110 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Me too, It's horrible, me too, me too. Imagine imagine 111 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: living with me, my wife. 112 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: It's my greatest strength and my greatest weakness is my 113 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: disease of addiction. 114 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of a superpower, but it can 115 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: also hold us back to That's how it is. If 116 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: you allow it, if you allow it, if. 117 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: You allow it, we now knowingly do that. 118 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the result, and I say, ah, whatever. 119 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: I don't care. 120 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: Listen, We're going to do it to this date and 121 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: then I'm gonna stop. And normally I can. 122 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: I pretty much cut. 123 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: It down Yeah, Well, we're continuously working on ourselves an 124 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: incurable disease, as we've talked about many times on this podcast. Okay, 125 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: so Power of Hope is open. It's a a adolescent 126 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: facility outpatient for you for you for mental health, yes right, yes, 127 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: and you obviously have Power of Recovery, which is addiction 128 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: treatments for adults. While so you have the adults here 129 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: and the kids here, but the kids is more for 130 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: the mental. 131 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: It is it is. 132 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to help get into 133 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: that with them before they stop the kind of stuff 134 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: that him and I did, the self medication and all 135 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: the other things. So we know there was a lot 136 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: of underlying causes things that you know, him and I 137 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: probably could have had someone talking to I'm sure you 138 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: could added someone talking to us about before we went 139 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: a little bit off the tracks. We want to try 140 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: and you know, help get us out on that before 141 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: anyone's going too far off the track. 142 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. The last time you were here, I think you 143 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: were about to open. You had because when was the 144 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: opening date recently? 145 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: Right, it's been open probably about a month. I don't 146 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: know the exact date. 147 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 3: It's far closer to two months. 148 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's been open two months. 149 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just Jamie. 150 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 8: I wanted to thank you for having the Power of 151 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 8: Recovery guys on your show yesterday. I reached out and 152 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 8: have a call with one of the therapists from Power 153 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 8: of Hope today for my children. The teenagers need some 154 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 8: support in that area, and I just appreciate all that 155 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 8: they've done and I'm excited for this next chapter. 156 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: So thank you. 157 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, Sarah, she's glowing. 158 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: That's amazing, man. 159 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: That just made me feel good. 160 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: Thank you to just Jamie and for letting us know that, 161 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: and obviously to you justin we had I mean, you 162 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: don't know. We just do what we do and you 163 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: know it when it impacts people, it's it's it's a 164 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: lot of tumbling, man. 165 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing about what you guys do, right, 166 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: So obviously you know you've started this amazing thing from 167 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Power Recovery, not Power of Hope. You have tons of 168 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: sober houses and all that stuff, and it's what you 169 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: do for a living, right, that's what you do. But 170 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: also the other side of his you're helping people, right, 171 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: and so you must get that feeling over and over again. 172 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: I wish it was more often than not with power. 173 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: Hope you do get that feeling now more often than 174 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: you don't. Like just hearing that woman there, it just 175 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: made me feel some kind of way wow, dealing. 176 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: With the other stuff. 177 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: You know how the statistics are so like, you feel bad, 178 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: you feel bad. 179 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: What's the number, by the way, off the top of 180 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: your head that make it compared that don't? Is there no. 181 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 2: Idea, but sitting in this room, it's one hundred percent. 182 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: Wow, if you really think of it, one hundred percent 183 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: of us made it today today. 184 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: Today. 185 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: The best feeling is to watch somebody come in broken 186 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: and empty and ashamed, and then you know how time goes. 187 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: It's so fast. 188 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: And then four years later you see the man or 189 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: woman and they get their kids back, they have a job, 190 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: they have their own living situation, and like they're just regular, normal, 191 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: active members of society. 192 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a tiny pot in that. 193 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Yep, Yep, it's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, I 194 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: really like the post you guys put up on Instagram. 195 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: You didn't see this, Maddy, did you see it? Damon 196 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: of me? It went up on the Power of Recovery 197 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Instagram yesterday it's me on stage when I spoke to Boston, 198 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: and it has the quote it was I Really. I 199 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of good feedback on that post, so 200 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: thank you for that. 201 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 202 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: But recently, how about this, right? So recently, I had 203 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: a best friend growing up that I used with. Okay, 204 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: and when I got clean, he didn't, So I had 205 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: to separate myself because I kept relapsing with him. Childhood 206 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: best friend, right, think about someone in your life. 207 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: I have it. 208 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we have not been friends since I've seen 209 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: him here or there, but he never got clean. Really sad, right. 210 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: I love him to death and I'm still waiting for 211 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: that day when he'll get clean. But when we were younger, 212 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: growing up, he had a younger brother that was like 213 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: five or six years younger, and the brother hated me 214 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: because he blamed me for his older brother's addictions. He 215 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: felt like I was the one taking him out. I 216 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: mean I had a part in it, but obviously his 217 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: own life, he chose to do whatever, so he always 218 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: hated me. Okay. Now fast forward to about a couple 219 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I wake up in the morning and 220 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: I have a message on Facebook. I'm not friends with 221 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: him on Facebook. But it comes in. I open it 222 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: and it's from the brother, and the brother says, I 223 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: remember you. I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you. 224 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I've always hated you. You're the biggest piece of shit. 225 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: You owe me an apology all in caps, And so 226 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: I open it and look at it, and I'm like, first 227 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: reaction is anger. I'm like, this motherfucker, does he know 228 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: who the fuck I am? 229 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 3: Right now? 230 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: And so then I get dressed and I'm thinking about 231 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I didn't respond yet. I'm thinking about what I'm gonna respond. 232 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: So I drive all the way to work and I'm thinking, 233 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about it's festering. And I get almost 234 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: to work and then I start the recovery kicks in 235 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: right the seeing the other side of things, the playing 236 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: the tape through. And I thought to myself, what if 237 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: he doesn't know that I'm clean? Because my ego told 238 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: me I'm the radio guy. How does he not know? 239 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: And I go, but what if he does? And what 240 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: if whatever? So I said, you know what, I'm gonna 241 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: do the opposite. So I got here to work like 242 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: three in the morning, and I wrote this message to him, 243 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: and I go, hey, it's so good to hear from you. 244 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I hope things are well. I don't know if you 245 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: know this about me, but I've been clean for seventeen 246 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: years now. I have a family. I didn't think about 247 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: where I work or anything. I just I have a family, 248 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: and I just want to say I'm sorry for anything 249 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: that I did in my past. Never meant to hurt you. 250 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: And he wrote back instantly. He was up and he 251 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: wrote back and he goes, oh my god, he goes, 252 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: thank you for responding. I had no idea. I'm so 253 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: proud of you. I didn't know you were clean. And 254 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: he goes, just so you know, my dad's dying in 255 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the hospital and he only has a couple of days 256 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: to live. So I'm really emotional right now. And you 257 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: showed up on my Facebook. Dude lives in Canada, doesn't 258 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: even fucking live here, had no idea where I was. 259 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I popped up on it. He was probably he sent 260 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: it home crying and upset, and I showed up on 261 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: his people you may know, and he was like, fuck 262 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: this kid, right, But that's the change in recovery, right, 263 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: that's the step work. That's the work that we do. Right. 264 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Playing the tape through before the reaction. Does he know 265 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: who I am? You know what I mean? I would 266 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: have responded that way. Amazing. 267 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: So two people in my life do that to me, 268 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: Damon and my wife. When a bad text comes through, 269 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: please put the phone down because instantly I want to 270 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: spit best and I want to hurt that person and 271 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: moralize them, and I want to win. Yep, you gotta 272 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: have that pause. I never had it. Yeah, I do 273 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: now way better. Damon's good at it. Damon processes everything 274 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: to the point where it aggravates the shit out of it, 275 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: Like I'm waiting for a fight. Yeah, and he's processing. 276 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, when's this kick going to kick? 277 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: So you should have a rule, you too, right, madd 278 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: You should have a rule where before you respond to anything, 279 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: you run it by Damon. 280 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much the rule. It's already there. I 281 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: mean he tried. 282 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: I tried, but some of them slipped through the. 283 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: I say to listen. I say, I'll go to him. Hey, dude, 284 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: what's that going to get? He goes about twelve seconds 285 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: of pure bliss and then I know it's trash after that, 286 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: But for like twelve to fifteen seconds, I'm going to 287 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: feel fantastic. 288 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also knows that if he does do that, 289 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna be there to pick up the pieces, Damon. 290 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes it's still hard for me. 291 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna bulche it. 292 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Like I texted Damon on his birthday and then I 293 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: texted them like a couple of days later, and I'm like, you, guys, 294 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: good for coming in for the podcast. I just text 295 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Damon because Damon's the one that knows. 296 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 297 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Though, here we go, all right, let's say from the people. 298 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I just listened to the podcast with the 299 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 6: Power of Recovery. Guys, I've never been in recovery and 300 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: I don't know anyone, but I very much enjoy listening 301 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 6: to them. But this podcast, I realize you are a 302 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 6: next level you, meaning Justin are a next level of crazy. 303 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 6: So if you have your wife on, you definitely need 304 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 6: to have her share how she deals with all of 305 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 6: your ocdnis. 306 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: Lol. 307 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 6: Love listening, have a good day. 308 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Or we could have Maddie's wife on. 309 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: Oh you'll just have a competition of which one's more 310 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: OCD between. 311 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Her and Justin. 312 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there no not at. 313 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: All this story, not even a little bit. 314 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to. He has to slide the lint 315 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: role in a specific direction for a certain amount of 316 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: time on each shirt every few minutes. 317 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: You're a clean freak. 318 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: Not really, but I don't like. 319 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: I like. 320 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Dude. You can't do that. You can't do that. 321 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Buddy, It's okay you don't. 322 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's fine. 323 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: I have my own corks. Damon probably has. Let's get Damon. 324 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: Yes, let's get Katie down here. 325 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck. 326 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's she going to say? We all have stuff 327 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: going on. Trust we trust me. 328 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 7: By justin Hi, Damon, Hi, Maddie. I have a loved 329 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 7: one in PHP and attending sober living and they have 330 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: no job and no money. I am supporting them financially 331 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 7: and it is becoming draining. And I was wondering if 332 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 7: it is a good idea for this person to get 333 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 7: a job while they're in this recovery process, or if 334 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 7: they should just focus on recovery. I'm just not sure 335 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 7: what to do anymore, and I would appreciate your guidance. 336 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, guidance man. 337 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 5: Two sides to that, though, When you say, big guy one. 338 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: You don't want to rush somebody right back into the 339 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: forty hour work week stress them out any more than 340 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: they have to. 341 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: But at some point they have responsibility. 342 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: You know what they say for guys like us early on, 343 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: depending on where they are in the program and and 344 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: stuff like that, Like some of them are in patient 345 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: programs and they want to get what's called the get 346 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: well jump, where you might not like fly back into 347 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: your career if you were a career person or you 348 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: know it, we're in a high stress environment, but you 349 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: get something that will kind of help cover a little bit. 350 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: You work in a little pot time job that you 351 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: know you can make a couple hundred bucks a week 352 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: to ease the burden on the family. But again, it's 353 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: like Maddie said, and like you're saying, justin there's a 354 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: lot to it because you've got to figure out where 355 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: they are in program, how much clean time they have, 356 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: and how it's going to impact their recovery, because at 357 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: the end of it, you cannot do anything unless you 358 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: are clean and sober first. 359 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Right social way, she said, he was in PHP sober living. 360 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: What's that? 361 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: I know? 362 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Sober living is. 363 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: So it's essentially what we do, right, Like, so, Power 364 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: of Recovery is a PHP. It's it's it stands for 365 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: partial hospitalization. It's basically day treatment that you go to 366 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: for a few hours during the day and then you know, 367 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: you live in in sober living. 368 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Uh oh, I got you. So he's in both. He 369 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: goes to a day program and then lives in sober living. 370 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: It's just where he lives. 371 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and what she's talking about is 372 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: is you know, sober living costs money. It's not something 373 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: like if you're in an inpatient program, all of it's 374 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: under one roof and it's and it's all covered right. 375 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: When you go into an outpatient program and you go 376 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: into a separate sober living, you have to pay for 377 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: the sober living There's different scholarships and stuff available too. 378 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: She should you know, if if if she's interested, we 379 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: can we might be able to help her out with 380 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: some more information to help figure out uh, you know, 381 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: a scholarship or something to help with the sober living 382 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: portion of it and stuff like that. So uh, she 383 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: can definitely give us a call, give me a call 384 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: and just call. 385 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: The office ask for him and they'll get the message 386 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: to him. 387 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: What's the number, so uh for power They're gonna call 388 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: eight five seven five six seven six nights three seven. 389 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: I can't help, but it's eight five seven fifty six. 390 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: Power call us over there. You know, just mentioned mentioned 391 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: the podcast, mentioned that you heard us on there and 392 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: you had some information trying to get some assistance for you. 393 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Loved one asked an answer it it's called the get 394 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: well job. Usually said it was for me. I sold 395 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: whale watch tickets down by the aquarium. That was in 396 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: the Ryan Hush. 397 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: I sold sell by the sea show. 398 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I did. I stood a little booth 399 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: and sold whale whale watch tickets. That's what it was. 400 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: A get well job. 401 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: Was it at least as summertime? 402 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: It was? No, it wasn't actually well. No, it was 403 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: like fall, summer fall somewhere. 404 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: That's not terrible in Boston. 405 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not bad. 406 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 9: Hi, justin you're doing a great job on your podcast. 407 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 9: I love listening to your inspiration and your talks about addiction. 408 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 9: Wondering how you're going to talk to your kids about addiction. 409 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 9: Where you and your wife are, you know, recovering addicts. 410 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 9: How does that look for you? Like what advice can 411 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 9: you give to people parents who have you know, little children, 412 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 9: Our children are teens that might get influenced in that way. Thanks. 413 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saved this question for when you guys were 414 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: in that you could answer. Good luck. 415 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: I'm the only one. I'm the only one I can 416 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: answer right now. I got I recently found some vape 417 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: and weed pens on in my kids my old. 418 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Way, so damon. So people should know you have four kids? 419 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: Are they fourteen? I hope I get this right? Fourteen, nine, 420 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: five and four? Wow? 421 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: I think so this is the fourteen year old? 422 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it's not nine year old? 423 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: Would hope? 424 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah. 425 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: So you know, it was a few weeks ago, some whatever, 426 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: some weird thing happened. It was all the way it's 427 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: supposed to be, right, But it was discovered because my 428 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: phone was in a different room and I went into 429 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: my kids room and I found like he had stuffed 430 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: them somewhere, and I just happened upon it, and uh, 431 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: you know, so I grabbed my wife. I talked to 432 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: her and it's it's scary, man, it's not easy. And 433 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: for me personally, I just went about it. I think 434 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: a little differently than than some people do. I wasn't 435 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: in the yelling, screaming I'm gonna beat my kid up 436 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: kind of mode. It was. It was just like, all right, 437 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: here's the situation. What am I going to do? How 438 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: am I going to respond to it? And I had 439 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: a very calm and informative conversation with my wife and 440 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: and him and just told him, like, listen, dude, my 441 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: job is to protect you, and right now I got 442 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: to protect you from yourself. You're not making good decisions. 443 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: I took away a lot of his freedom with having 444 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: a cell phone and being able to go out and 445 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: and you know, told him that we'd be monitoring stuff 446 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: and wanted to provide him as much information as I could. 447 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: Myself and my wife are both in recovery, so we 448 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: told him he's a little bit behind the eight ball 449 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: when it comes to stuff like this that you know, uh, 450 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: he might be in a probably a potentially bad genetic 451 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: disposition being that where you know, everybody related to him 452 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: as a little bit of that in him. And and 453 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: then you know, I'll be honest with you. Is one 454 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: of the best things I could have done. Over the 455 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: next few weeks, I saw my son kind of return, 456 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: Like you know, he was a fourteen year ol kids 457 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: want to spend time around his family to begin with, 458 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: but he would either be out on his bike all 459 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: afternoon after he got home from school, which is cool, 460 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: but then he'd come home, go in his room, be 461 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: on his phone, come out for a meal, go back 462 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: to his room. We took all those things away from him, 463 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: and now he's like participating. He's being a big brother again, 464 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: he's a son. Like it's really it's really cool to watch. 465 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: So I think it was an error in our ways 466 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: that we didn't know until it was probably a little 467 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: bit too late, and that you know, kind of maintaining 468 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 3: some boundaries with some different freedoms that he had and 469 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: then when the conversation comes up, just inform and I'm like, 470 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: I told myself, dude, no matter what y'all gonna you 471 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: could still have friends at school. He's in high school, Like, 472 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other kids with weed pens in there. 473 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: There's there's other times he's gonna not be with us 474 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: that he's gonna have to make some decisions in those situations, 475 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: and and I'm hoping he has enough information and enough 476 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: way with all and strength to be able to to 477 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: make the right decision. And at the end of the day, 478 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: I don't honestly know if he's gonna be me either. 479 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he could. But here's the thing, right, Like, 480 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I think that one of the best things we can 481 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: do for our kids is to be present. But on 482 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: the other hand, you know, you have four kids, if 483 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: you have multiple kids, even one kid, the bustle of life, 484 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're very busy, so you're 485 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: present for your kids, but you can't watch everything that 486 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: they do, you know. And that's that's why when you 487 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: said that about maybe you should have done a better 488 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: job of, like whatever, catching it before it happened. You know, 489 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I understand that because you know, days go by, you 490 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and like, you know, you just 491 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: you try to keep track and then you know you 492 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: can't always keep track of everything they're doing. But I 493 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: wanted to ask, Damon, does he know your story, you 494 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: and your wife, your history? Yeah, how much of that 495 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: did you tell him? 496 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't really hide anything. I 497 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: don't think he knows specific details about about you know, 498 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: all this stuff, but he definitely knows without a doubt. 499 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: We have had conversations with them surrounding you know, our history, 500 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: hour story, and you know, how could how could you 501 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: know how that could potentially impact him. And again he 502 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: was informed and it's all real recent. He went from 503 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: you know, he never picked up a vape to to 504 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: you know, he had a vape and then he had 505 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: weed bends. So it's you know what I mean. It 506 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: was a quick transition for us, far faster than we 507 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: thought any of this stuff was was happening, was going 508 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: to happen. 509 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: But you remember these days, those days being young at school, 510 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: all all the kids. 511 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 3: The difference is, I told him, I said, when I 512 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: was a kid, we used to have that. We stunk 513 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: like weed. We didn't have edibles, we didn't have weed pens. 514 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: We didn't We had to make weed brownies in my 515 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: house to get edibles. Like there was no you know 516 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: what I mean. Like and I go ahead and try 517 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: and work that thing in a house where it's not allowed. 518 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: But you guys are vote kids, right, Both went to 519 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: the vote in Wakefield. 520 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure do. 521 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: I went to eleven schools in twelve nice los. 522 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I graduated from the garage in Malden School in the basement. 523 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: So my son is eight years old. I never I 524 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: had no plans on talking to him about my past. 525 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: And for a couple more years, but Uh. Some kid 526 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood showed him my news thing that they 527 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: did on me, which was upsetting to me because you know, 528 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it was nice. But he had some questions. So I 529 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: had a conversation with him. 530 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 5: That's how mine came out right around the same thing. 531 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 4: I never she had any My kids didn't know what 532 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: I did for work, none of that stuff. 533 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: They knew I helped people in houses. And then I 534 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: was on the That was the cover of the newspaper. 535 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: They showed a picture of me strung out and the 536 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: picture of me clean. 537 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. 538 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: The writing said, nurse and a vicious heroin addiction. 539 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 10: Oh my god, what's jad Is he gonna die? 540 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: Well? 541 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I know the picture. It's one of you. 542 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: It's fantastic. 543 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 4: Now, like they know that, I don't go into detail 544 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: on anything I did. Now he's a little older and 545 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: he wants a couple like risky stories, So like between 546 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: me and Michelle, will tell him a couple of stories. 547 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: But just like damon my two kids. I see the 548 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: isms all over. 549 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the one more kids one? 550 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: How about this one? You're doing something and not being 551 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: in the present. 552 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: They want to be somewhere else. 553 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: What's next? 554 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: O're the worst, the worst. 555 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: So, like I already see it, like it obviously scares 556 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: you to death. And if this woman calling in knows 557 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 4: little to nothing about addiction and this is what we 558 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 4: do and it's scaring us, imagine for a regular person. 559 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: So my advice would be. 560 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: It's just education, education, education. 561 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: Saturday night, he's sleeping out my phone rings, it's ten thirty. 562 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: My son's thirteen. Here's the question, Dad, Yeah, painkiller is addictive. 563 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: I go, shit, yeah, And then I hear him tell 564 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: his buddy yelling I told you, I told you in 565 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 4: their research and his stuff, and tell them alcohols are drugs, right, 566 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: I go, yeah, drug? 567 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 5: He goes, I told you. I go, hey, he goes 568 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 5: what I go, so at sugar? Yeah, gony. 569 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: So like he educated on the fact, knock on wood. 570 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: I don't think he's done that yet. I know it's 571 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: a yet. 572 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm not stupid. None of us are stupid. 573 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: Kids are gonna experiment, and just because they're experimenting don't 574 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: mean they're gonna end up homeless on the street like us. 575 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: Three Yeah, dude, And that's what I'm saying too about 576 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: my kid. At the end of the day, I think 577 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: he's in a toughest spot than other kids. But you know, 578 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: again diving in personally, I have a ton of nieces 579 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: and nephews and a bunch of my older nieces and nephews. 580 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 3: They recreate, Yeah, man, they don't. They live professional lives 581 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: and and good healthy lives. They get children they like, 582 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: and they drink a little bit. They might smoke a little. 583 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 5: Week and alcohol were made for you. 584 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Like so, you know, 585 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: but again some of that early intervention in the education. 586 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: No matter what, at the end of the day, as 587 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: a parent, your kid is gonna be forced into some decisions. 588 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: And the best you can do, I think it is, 589 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, being present and then also you know, making 590 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: sure that they don't feel uncomfortable coming to talk to 591 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: you like they you can't, I don't think personally. I 592 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 3: want my children to be able to come tell me 593 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: anything in their worst or best situation. I want to 594 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: be their first phone call, you know what I mean. So, 595 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: no matter what they don't like, oh my god, Dad's 596 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: gonna kill me, Oh my god, Ma's gonna come. I 597 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: don't want any of my kids to think like that. 598 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: I want them to know, no matter what they're dealing 599 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: with their parents. Are the safe place we do. 600 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: We do the same thing. 601 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, open communications. 602 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: I think he talks to my wife too much. 603 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what do you say. We had lunch and 604 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: meet him and and and his wife and you know, 605 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: Michelle and his oldest and I was like, oh that 606 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: was yeah, that was that was fun. 607 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: That was different because you're not used to coming from that. 608 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't talk to my parents. 609 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, he's the kids, he's had kids. Mini 610 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: Maddie though, Dude, he's cracking jokes. He's he could wind 611 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: up being a stand up comedian and as a team dude, 612 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: justin hilarious. 613 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Dude, is it interesting that you and your wife both 614 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: in recovery? Dame and your wife both in recovery? Me 615 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: and my wife? 616 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy? 617 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: Well, you go back to the statistics. 618 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: I think all statistics are bullshit because that's not supposed 619 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: to last either. 620 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 621 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: So now it's sitting in this room. There's three of 622 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: us now the taro left. 623 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, all three of clean today. All three have successful relationships. 624 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: So what bat in a thousand in this wild true? 625 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: Oh speaking? Which can we are we allowed to mention 626 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 3: that the missus got uh oh got one twenty one 627 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: years imagine? 628 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh really wait hold let me do the math here. Okay, 629 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: So I was in a sola house with with Maddie's 630 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: wife twenty one years. 631 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: Can we talk? Can we unpack that? Or don't know that? 632 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: So? 633 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was two thousand and five, we were 634 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: in the house together. Yeah, so I was in Okay, So. 635 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: So one of your stayed clean? 636 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I was in jail. I got paroled 637 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: out to the Kingston House, which had a shelter. 638 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh that's my spot case. Yeah, I love that place. 639 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: So then I was looking for solo houses to go in, 640 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: and in my head I was like, oh, I have 641 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: to go to the Link House or these houses that 642 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: were they had long waiting lists and you couldn't get 643 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: into right, And the only one that got accepted to 644 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: was the Ryan House, which is on Green Show and 645 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: not in the best area, right, but it was a 646 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: co head house house. So I thought I'm gonna go. 647 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: So I went and it did work for me. I 648 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: did stay clean for a little while after that. But 649 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: when I went there, Michelle, who was Maddie's wife, was 650 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: there and she had been there for like three or 651 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: four months and she fucking ran the house. 652 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: No, she was not a surprise, dude, she changed. 653 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: It was insane, Like I don't even like, no one 654 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: fucked with her. 655 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: Dude. 656 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: She does not play when it comes to recovery. And 657 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: and that dude she's literally with me and him would 658 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: just look up at her like, oh my god, like wow, 659 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: Like I get. 660 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: To take my hat off to her when it comes 661 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 4: to the recovery stuff. You know how we veer off 662 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: course every now and then, and you have recovery to 663 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: a roller coaster. 664 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: She don't know. 665 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't miss noticeable. 666 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: She's the adult in relationships. She's the adult for all 667 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: of us. 668 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. And she's also a fitness nut. 669 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: Unbelievable dude. 670 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I follow on Instagram, Like she's in the 671 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: gym every morning, four am routine. Then she does a 672 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: walk later on in the day. 673 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I got a I got one hundreds. And she 674 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: can suppressed Maddie right now. 675 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 676 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: No, she's like for the people listening right now when 677 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: I say she's like, she's fucking ripped, just say what right, damon, dude, 678 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: she is. 679 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: She's it's you know, not to get a little you know, 680 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: uh hair, nothing, but she looks good. 681 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: He's about to step over. 682 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, she she does a lot of 683 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: work on her body. 684 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: She's beautiful. She's beautiful, but from a fitness standpoint. And 685 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I did see yesterday. I think she was mail prepping 686 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Maddie all of our meals. Yeahs, subs. 687 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: She would dude in a happy she'd jump right in 688 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: and dude, don't get me wrong, he'll do it himself. 689 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: She would do it too. But when he's ready, he's ready, 690 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: and he does it, but she doesn't. There's no what 691 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: he's doing right, there's no what any of the three 692 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: of us of like, oh, I'm having like an off 693 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: day with this. She's like, no, I'm having an off day. 694 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do more of this to make my 695 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: to get better quicker. 696 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: She has her cheatmails and stops and then that's it. 697 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: She's very controlled, very very focused. Yeah, dialed in, I 698 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: will say though that. So that was in two thousand 699 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: and five. She stayed clean. I ended up relapsing. I 700 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: got clean in two thousand and eight, but I didn't 701 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: see Michelle obviously. Now when I was in the Ryan 702 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: House with her, we know we weren't working out or whatever. Right, 703 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how much she was in the fitness 704 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: back then. I mean you. 705 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Were still a little unhealthy back then. 706 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I was very unhealthy. But for her, I didn't 707 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: see her for many years after. And then what happened 708 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: was years ago, like probably four or five years ago. 709 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: A friend of mine goes, remember Michelle from Ryan House 710 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: because he was there too. I go, yeah. He goes, 711 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: have you seen her lately? Because she married to Maddie Powers, 712 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, really pulled out the picture and showed me. 713 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like ripped. 714 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm a lucky guy. 715 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: You're a lucky guy, Maddie. 716 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like people showing pictures of your wife. 717 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: See how he steps over them. 718 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying, because she looks good to relax brow. 719 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: He's talking about but I like to look because I'm 720 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: into fitness. 721 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and gonna kill us. 722 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: All all right? So Power Recovery dot org for addiction stuff, right, 723 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: power of Hope. 724 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: It's power of Hope. M a dot com? 725 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Oh don't forget the dot com? 726 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: Why I you'd be that's out of my pay range? 727 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Who designs that? 728 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: I I think she just left. Oh, honestly, I think, dude, honestly, 729 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: if you want to know the truth, when when we stopped, 730 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: we had no idea what we were doing when we 731 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: started Power for Recovery, dude, so we just like, oh, 732 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: we need a dot org. Like we didn't know, dude. 733 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: We just so one said, dude, dot org, and so 734 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: we did dot org. 735 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: I don't even know that. I don't even know it. 736 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 10: Wait, Matti, what's the Oh my hey, I swear to god, 737 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 10: he doesn't know the the the radio number, he doesn't 738 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 10: know the actual landline number isn't no. 739 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: It's fine. I listen justin. It's a strange things. He's yeah, 740 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: because because he is like like the brains like so 741 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: it's tough to take that away. Like I have my 742 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: portion of the brains with stuff like remembering some things 743 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: and good with numbers like and a few other things 744 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: like that I'm really good at like other stuff he's 745 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: he's fantastic at too. It's really what's like the dynamic 746 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: for us is really what's worked over the years. It's crazy, dude, 747 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: like he. 748 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: You guys are a great team. 749 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: He got a great spell too much. 750 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: I don't know my where Semi colon goes I don't know. 751 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 7: No. 752 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: And and just so you guys know, in the beginning, 753 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: the accounting that we did was Maddy would go, more 754 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: has to come in than goes out and we'll be fine. 755 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: That is dow is our accounting its level to this day, 756 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: my controller will go, I go, prove me wrong. 757 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, let this business survive if more goes out then 758 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: comes in. 759 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean it is true, it is true. 760 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, But dude, honestly, I'll be honest with you, like 761 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: tip of the cat to the kid, Like he he spaces, 762 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: he spends like every week and moment trying to figure 763 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: out how to like improve our system and to do 764 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: better and to do more for the people that are 765 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: coming in the building. So like, honestly, without that, you know, 766 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: we're nowhere. We're not Chelsea's house, We're not Power of 767 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: recovery're not powerful. None of that's going on without how 768 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: crazy his brain gets. It's frustrating at times because it's 769 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: like he'll at three in the morning he's texted me like, dude, 770 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: I just came up. I'm like, dude, go to bed, 771 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? But like you know, at 772 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know we're very fortunate 773 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: and all the people, like he said, who's whose lives 774 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: we have a small touch and h super fortunate over 775 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 3: his craziness. 776 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I told you that. My wife years ago told me 777 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: that one day she goes you know, she works in 778 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: addiction recovery, and she said it's well known for her 779 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: and the people that actually give a fuck that they 780 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: always refer to power of Recovery. That's the one, like 781 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: everyone knows them, trust them. Becau, there's a lot of 782 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: ship bags out. 783 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's gross. 784 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: We have our fault. 785 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: I can guarantee you there's not a better staff in 786 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: the business. The people we have treating our people working 787 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: with us. It makes us able to go out and 788 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: do odd jobs. Like I told you my sponsors. 789 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say, you hired your own Yeah. 790 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: God damn right. 791 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: But the truth man, when somebody says, who's treating my kid, 792 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: the same person who's treating me, And I own the place, 793 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 4: So if his treatment's good enough for me. 794 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: It'll be good enough for him. 795 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, you know. 796 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: Put your mind at ease. I know how people are 797 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: being treated right now. I know for a fact, So 798 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: I can come sit here and talk to you guys 799 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: game and can come sit here. 800 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: We don't have to be over everybody's shoulder. We can 801 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: go do what we do. 802 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's literally crazy, like every single person in 803 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: the building, like from people that are like essentially quote 804 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: unquote doing just billing stuff, like clients walking to their 805 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: office and sit down and they wind up having like 806 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: a thirty minutes that they'll be sitting there at the 807 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: desk because they're having like a tough day, tough moment 808 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: and they connected with that person. And and we're so 809 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: fortunate to have those people working with us. Man, we're 810 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: just super us. 811 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: It's funny because remember when I first came to visit 812 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: and Revere to Power and it was before you you expanded, 813 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: and then you were like I remember you told me 814 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: you like, yeah, we want to knock down this wall. 815 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be all this flour over here. And then 816 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: you did it. It's beautiful. So Power of Recovery is 817 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: a day center, day treatment center located in Revere, right 818 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: Damon Power Recovery dot org or what's the phone number. 819 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: It's eight five seven five six seven six ninety three 820 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 3: seven or fifty six Powers. 821 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: So anybody struggling, needs help, doesn't know what to do, 822 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: way to turn they can call yeah, okay. And then 823 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: you also have the sober houses. Is that something you 824 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: want to know? 825 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's our baby, that's where we started. 826 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, how many do you own? 827 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: Thirteen and either open beds always or there's so many 828 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 4: beds and there's rotations. 829 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: People graduate and we get you right in. 830 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 5: Oh really we're full one percent of the time. 831 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 7: Yeah. 832 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Marie Santos is a intake coordinated that she's a 833 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: general manager. She's phenomenal, but she keeps the flow going 834 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 3: with all the beds. So it's definitely where console have 835 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: an applications and a wait list. But like Maddy said, 836 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: we have we have so many beds and his flips 837 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: throughout the week of people either graduating or unfortunately having 838 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: a restart the process that this beds open and she 839 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: manages it so well that you know, uh, we like 840 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: to have as much time as we can, but usually 841 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: within a week or two at the most, we have 842 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: somebody in a bed. And sometimes a lot of times. 843 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: If you call that day, sometimes you're in a bed. 844 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 7: Ye. 845 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: What do they call for that? Is that the same number? 846 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 3: No? 847 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 4: No, no, that one is seven eight one, six six 848 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 4: six three seven five fine ou. 849 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: Wait, so what numbers that? 850 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 4: That is Chelsea's house office number and I just happen 851 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: to remember it. 852 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: We take back everything we say. 853 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: On let me do it again. 854 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 5: That is seven eight one six six six three seven 855 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 5: five two. 856 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you gotta be careful because five three is 857 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: the fact. 858 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And if you want it's Chelsea's house dot 859 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: com if you want to go, we have an application 860 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: process on there that you can do right online and 861 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: then you can call that phone number and talk to 862 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: Mari direct. We should manage all of it. 863 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: And that's the sober living yeah. 864 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: In that and I'm not being conceited. I'm not I'm 865 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: not doooting my own horn. I can guarantee you for 866 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: a fact, they're the best sober homes and. 867 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can, I can, I can back. I'm not 868 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: just saying that because you're on my podcast and like 869 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, we work together. That's well known in the 870 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: recovery world in New England. Power of Recovery, Chelsea's House, 871 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: two great places, Yeah, fantastic and then lastly Power of Hope. 872 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: So you know we had that woman asked a question 873 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: about she called about her kids teenagers. So this is 874 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of out of my realm. So this is more 875 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: for parents whose kids are struggling with mental health stuff, 876 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: right damon. And so if they need help for that, 877 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: where do they go. 878 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: They're going to go to Power of Hope m A 879 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: dot com. 880 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: Power of Hope m A dot com. Okay, and it 881 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: is a day center. Yeah, how does that work? So? 882 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, let me give you a little brief quick 883 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: thing about that. So where is it? It's Massachusetts, and 884 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: so quickly like kids that are struggling, sometimes kids are 885 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: struggling to the point where they can't even be in school, 886 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: and so they can come there for the full days 887 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: from nine in the morning till you know, we're open 888 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: till six pm. The other thing is in the state 889 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: of Massachusetts, if you get two hours of schooling and 890 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: during the day, it's considered a full day. So for 891 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 3: parents that want to still have their kids take get 892 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: credit for the full day and still get some of 893 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: the assignments and some in person work, they can go 894 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: to school from nine to eleven thirty and then come 895 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 3: to us from twelve to six and then still for 896 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: the parents that would prefer the kid do the entire 897 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: day at school from nine to say, two thirty. They 898 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: can still come over to us from three to six. 899 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Ah, I got you. 900 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get it all covered. Yeah, whatever, whatever 901 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: they need. We're just trying to source it to the 902 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: needs of each individual, just like any other call. 903 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: You talk to the ladies over there and they will 904 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 4: figure something out. 905 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's open, it's doing good. 906 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: Running, it's doing great. A lot of kids. 907 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: Man. 908 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, what's the next power of. 909 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: It's something, but we'll really yeah. 910 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me off the air and when it comes 911 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. Congrats on everything, 912 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next month. Yes, we'll be Remember 913 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: if you have any questions or comments for the guys, 914 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: you can send them in. I will save them for January. 915 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: When you come back in. You can leave it talk 916 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: back on the after show because sore the guys will 917 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: love to hear from You's my. 918 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: Favorite part of the show. So cool, right, don't be 919 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 4: scared to call them and ask questions. 920 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, questions, comments, anything you have for the guys, 921 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: send them in. I will talk tomorrow. What's tomorrow, Wednesday. 922 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: Something like that. 923 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: Tomorrow is Wednesday, that's our anniversary twenty Yeah, twenty one years. 924 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: You do something big for Michelle. 925 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 4: We'll We're going to match Coach for Kids Drive and 926 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: Revere Drift tomorrow. 927 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, coach another thing I'm not invited to. Okay, 928 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: I go. 929 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm just it's eight o'click. It's like six or seven 930 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: at night. You're in bed, dude, Dude, I go to bed. 931 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:52,959 Speaker 1: Seven. 932 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: We're going to dinner and then we're going to Coach 933 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 5: with Kids. 934 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: Magin invited me to the anniversary. 935 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dame's coming to anniversary dinner with me and my wife. 936 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: Oh really, well you want you know, it's a work wife. 937 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: He's like your work wife. 938 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: That's what I am. 939 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, bye everybody, Bye bye