WEBVTT - Thom Brennaman -- 10/21/25

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<v Speaker 1>Boomburg Money minette on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, we say good morning once more to our friend

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<v Speaker 2>Gina Cervetti from the Bloomberg newsroom in New York, New York.

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<v Speaker 2>General Motors a strong quarter and sees good things ahead

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<v Speaker 2>for the company. Gina, that's right, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>Sales of pickups and SUVs are reving higher at GM,

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<v Speaker 3>and now it's raised its full year outlook. It posted

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<v Speaker 3>third quarter results that topped Wall Street estimates. GM is

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<v Speaker 3>also getting a boost from fresh relief from tariffs on

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<v Speaker 3>auto parts. Seems like investors really like what they heard.

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<v Speaker 3>General Motor shares are higher ahead of the opening bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, it's good news.

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<v Speaker 2>Coca Cola meanwhile winning over shoppers despite higher prices for

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<v Speaker 2>its drinks here recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah Coke posted third quarter sales growth that beat what

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street was expecting, a sign that consumers are still

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<v Speaker 3>snapping up the beverages despite those higher prices on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 3>The results point to Coke winning over shoppers with its

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<v Speaker 3>widening portfolio of drinks and that include sugar free sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>sports drinks, water. They've also been serving up smaller sized

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<v Speaker 3>bottles and cans, and that is helping to drive sales

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<v Speaker 3>at Coke.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and the futures this morning after a big day yesterday, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little quieter, but they're starting to show some signs of

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<v Speaker 3>life down. Futures up twenty one, SMP futures up two,

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<v Speaker 3>Nasdaq futures are up.

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<v Speaker 1>One from Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 3>Gina Cervetti on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back to the morning show here on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. I got to know Brandon Saho a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Many of you knew him perhaps growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>went to LaSalle High School and then of course was

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<v Speaker 2>seen regularly on the Channel five News handling the sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very talented guy. After he left Channel five, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to work with Brandon Sajo at Chatterbox Sports,

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<v Speaker 2>which basically was a startup and does great work covering

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<v Speaker 2>sports in and around the Tri State high school, college,

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<v Speaker 2>pro etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Etc.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I did not know when I started working

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<v Speaker 2>with Brandon Saho all of the things that he has

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<v Speaker 2>had to battle in his life, depression and suicide. So

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<v Speaker 2>after he left Chatterbox, he started to try and embark

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<v Speaker 2>on helping others in the same situation that he has

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<v Speaker 2>been in and it's a pleasure to be joined by

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<v Speaker 2>the aforementioned Brandon say hoo. I mean he's NonStop. He's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to hit all fifty states. How close are you,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon say hoo?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Tom, first, I have to call you my main man.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you call me every time I see you.

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<v Speaker 4>So my main man, Tom brendanman on the big one.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me. I am at state number forty six.

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<v Speaker 5>I have four more left.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota last week,

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<v Speaker 4>so I have Hawaii, Wyoming, Idaho, and Alaska left.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, we'll get to the other stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but I mean you could probably right a

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<v Speaker 2>travel guide because some of those places ain't exactly easy

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<v Speaker 2>to get to.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's hard to fly into Dickinson, North Dakota. The

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<v Speaker 4>airport's about the size of a high school classroom.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was awesome to go.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you this, Tom, I've been lucky to

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<v Speaker 4>drive all over the country. You fly all over a

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<v Speaker 4>place like that, man, it really put it in perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say this, I probably met eight to ten people

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<v Speaker 4>who were touched by suicide in their immediate family. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean one woman lost her husband and then brought in.

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<v Speaker 5>Her niece who lost her mom and dad.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just it's sad, man, but we have

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<v Speaker 4>these conversations that hopefully help save lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and there's no doubt you're doing it. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible reception even from the Ohio Suicide Prevention Group

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<v Speaker 2>that's based out of Columbus, Ohio. This week, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a very, very busy let's hit some of the highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting in about what two and a half hours from now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a mental health PEP rally at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Dayton.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting outside my favorite arena in college basketball, UD Arena.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been really fortunate to become friends with Coach Grant

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<v Speaker 4>and the Grant family. They lost their daughter, Jada three

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, who was a freshman on the track team

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<v Speaker 4>here to suicide, and ever since, you know, they've tried

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<v Speaker 4>to save lives too. So today we're here with care stores,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do our best to inspire kids from all around,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the greater Dayton area. We should have a

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<v Speaker 4>few thousand kids in UD Arena and I'll share my

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<v Speaker 4>story and also work with amazing mental health professionals. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's part of a huge week, you know, Coach Grant

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<v Speaker 4>starting this initiative with his family, at UD has created

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<v Speaker 4>a basketball series, like I said, with care stores that

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<v Speaker 4>takes us all over the country. They played Penn State

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<v Speaker 4>on Sunday. I'll be flying down with UC as they

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<v Speaker 4>match up with Arkansas on Friday for another pep rally

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<v Speaker 4>against coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Cal And then they got a.

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<v Speaker 4>Big one regular season game in early December. Same day

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<v Speaker 4>it's a Big ten championship game in Indy.

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<v Speaker 5>I you and Louisville.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing on national TV to break the stigma. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it all stemmed from Coach Grant wanting to share his

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<v Speaker 4>story and his daughter's story with Jay's Light. And I

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<v Speaker 4>can't believe it's grown this much over the last three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the one in Arkansas on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be joined by not only coach Caliperi, but also

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<v Speaker 2>is coach Miller and the teams before the game. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're speaking in front of and I would imagine maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong on this, Brandon. When you're standing up in

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<v Speaker 2>front of young young kids, elementary school kids, is the

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<v Speaker 2>message a little bit different? Do you have to tweak

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, just because if nothing else, life

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<v Speaker 2>experience from say an elementary school kid to those that

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<v Speaker 2>are in high school if not older.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you definitely do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think you know, the message is still the

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<v Speaker 4>same of knowing that these feelings are temper and you

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<v Speaker 4>can't ask for help and you can't do it alone.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, you know my journey.

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<v Speaker 4>You saw me have some of my roughest days when

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<v Speaker 4>it came to maybe alcoholism or other addition struggles. You

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<v Speaker 4>might lay off that a little bit when you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>to a younger group, But I'll tell you this, Tom,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I give the chance to speak with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Fortune five hundred companies in conference rooms to elementary schools

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<v Speaker 4>to arenas like today, kids that are that age from

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<v Speaker 4>elementary up to junior high and high school, they are

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<v Speaker 4>the best when it comes to mental health because they

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<v Speaker 4>are seeing it every day and they're open to those conversations,

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<v Speaker 4>unlike we were when we were growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean you suffered from this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>going all the way back to an experience you had

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<v Speaker 2>in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I had a picture get sent around at a

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<v Speaker 4>football game in two thousand and seven my freshman year

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<v Speaker 4>a lasaut we were playing at the pit and it

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed me. Man, it was so embarrassing and got made

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<v Speaker 4>fun of and felt like I had friends. That was

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I thought of suicide. And thankfully, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because of my friends that I had at LaSalle, those

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<v Speaker 4>two guys, Ryan and Patti'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably don't make it out of those two to

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<v Speaker 4>three months without those guys asking to sit with me

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<v Speaker 4>at lunch or to hang out on the weekend. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think that maybe to answer your earlier question of

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<v Speaker 4>the younger generation and the kids that I speak to,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe like today, stories like that are relatable because these

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<v Speaker 4>kids are on their phones and they're going through these things,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it be maybe you know, dating pictures, different things

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<v Speaker 4>on Snapchat, and we didn't know about it back then.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what a cell phone was, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know the power of social media. It was just getting started.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You reflect back on something like that, and it makes

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<v Speaker 2>me wonder. I don't know if this is a part

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<v Speaker 2>of your message or not, but so many studies have

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<v Speaker 2>come out in recent years about the term I guess

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<v Speaker 2>would be best mental health disc that is being caused

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<v Speaker 2>by so many kids spending so much time on their

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<v Speaker 2>phone and in particular social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's two sides to every story. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it does do harm, it does hurt kids, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's things that are on the Internet that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>or they should you know, not be seeing it on

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<v Speaker 4>their TikTok feed or on their Instagram feed or on Snapchat.

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<v Speaker 4>But on the flip side, man, I wouldn't be doing

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing without social media and without seeing somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>message that inspires me. Or I met Terry CRUs on

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram and got to have a conversation with him that

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<v Speaker 4>I think and hope helped millions that watched it on

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<v Speaker 4>social media.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's two sides to the story.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, just like everything in life, there's got to

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<v Speaker 4>be a balance. And so you know, for me, I

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<v Speaker 4>joke with you know I live out in la now

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<v Speaker 4>and I joke with the kids that are in high school,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that live on my street with their families.

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<v Speaker 4>I go, man, I remember riding my bike and leaving

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<v Speaker 4>my dad house in col Rane and not talking to

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<v Speaker 4>my parents the entire weekend, not checking in, not knowing

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<v Speaker 4>what anyone is doing on the Internet and just coming

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<v Speaker 4>back on Sunday and it being okay, and these kids

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<v Speaker 4>are so blown away by it. But I think what's

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<v Speaker 4>been cool again is seeing how they talk about it

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<v Speaker 4>and how they accept the way that we embrace mental

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<v Speaker 4>health now. Se Yeah, I think it's a healthy, happy

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<v Speaker 4>medium there. But the big point, Tom is that when

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<v Speaker 4>you see that it's hurting your mental health and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not helping you no matter what it is, any age,

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<v Speaker 4>social media, drinking, whatever, You've got to realize that and

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<v Speaker 4>take that step away to find a healthy coping mechanism

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<v Speaker 4>instead of an unhealthy one.

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<v Speaker 1>I would holly recommend.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're visiting with Brandon Saho and he is the

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<v Speaker 2>host of what has become an enormously popular podcast, it's

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<v Speaker 2>called The Mental Game. And you still have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sports ties. I mean you've visited with musicians, You've

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<v Speaker 2>visited with many in Hollywood. This week you have Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>star linebacker Zach Bond. What's his story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his story is incredible, man. I mean he got

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<v Speaker 4>drafted to the Saints kind of a mid to late

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<v Speaker 4>round pick and it was a special teamer and working

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<v Speaker 4>his tailoff and when he hit free agency, he took

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<v Speaker 4>a chance with the Eagles, kind of bet on himself

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<v Speaker 4>was a career special teamer coming here or coming to Philly,

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<v Speaker 4>I should say.

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<v Speaker 5>And at his house in Philly, we talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About how that year changed his life. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 4>just signed a fifty plus million dollar deal, got a

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<v Speaker 4>brand new house, obviously after signing that type of money,

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<v Speaker 4>but that you know, he was broken going into that

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<v Speaker 4>year and ended up becoming a team captain, helping seal

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<v Speaker 4>that victory in the Super Bowl, intercepting Patrick Mahomes. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think my favorite part of his journey is just

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<v Speaker 4>how pure and genuine.

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<v Speaker 5>That guy is. I pull up to this beautiful house, probably.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Indian Hill of Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 5>He just bought it, just got his deal.

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<v Speaker 4>And I pull in and I see a like little

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<v Speaker 4>scratch DENTCE on the side of a twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>Honda a court and I'm like, there's no way this

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<v Speaker 4>is Zach's carr. And I saw Louisiana plates and I

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<v Speaker 4>used to live down there, so I know.

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<v Speaker 5>What they look like. And I just go, what's the

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<v Speaker 5>deal with that?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, Man, when I had nothing, I was so

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<v Speaker 4>proud to rent to own my first ever car in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one. I'm not getting red of that thing

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<v Speaker 4>until it dies. And I just thought that told a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about that guy's character. But he really opens up

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<v Speaker 4>about his friendship with his wife and now when he

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<v Speaker 4>had no one, she was the one that he leaned on.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm really excited to tell his and Ali's story.

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<v Speaker 4>Zach Bond coming up here on Tuesday when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>out a week from today.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, please let everybody Brandon say, oh no, how

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<v Speaker 2>know there are a lot of people out there who

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<v Speaker 2>are listening right now, maybe themselves, they are struggling, Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>have a brother or a sister, aunt, uncle, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>case may be. Where can people follow you to get

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<v Speaker 4>Brandon Sejo on all social media, or just search The

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me, if anyone is listening out there,

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<v Speaker 4>the one I want. Two things I want you to

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<v Speaker 4>know is number one you got to do something, ask

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<v Speaker 5>But number two is the biggest thing for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Feelings are temporary, Tom. I've become friends with you, I

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<v Speaker 4>say close friends over the last five to six years.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you don't like to make it about you,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're one of the strongest guys I know, going

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<v Speaker 4>through something that very few people have, and I understand

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<v Speaker 4>your feelings about everything. It's not a sorry, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>feel sorry for me moment. So you're a strong man

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<v Speaker 4>and you've been there for me. So I'm always here

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<v Speaker 4>for you, and everyone should have that type of person

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<v Speaker 4>in their corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we love having you with us, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep up, keep on keeping on, my friend, Keep up

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<v Speaker 2>the good work and all the help that you're giving

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<v Speaker 2>to so many who need it. Save travels, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and have a good time up in Dayton today.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome, thanks brother Tukson.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow night thirty nine and we could get down close

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<v Speaker 2>up to talk about all the craze and all the

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<v Speaker 2>fad that is protein protein protein protein seven hundred WLW

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<v Speaker 1>Flight eight forty.

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<v Speaker 2>One on the Big One, seven hundred wl W. We

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<v Speaker 2>do this every Tuesday with former US Olympian Julius Fording.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she's booked up in business, was on television

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<v Speaker 2>radio speaking engagements. I mean in demand like no other

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<v Speaker 2>in and around the Tri State. Julie, good morning.

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<v Speaker 7>I need you to introduce me every day of the week.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I'd be unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 1>You are unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I try.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we're all trying to just keep balanced anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's something to be said for that. Part of

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<v Speaker 2>finding balance would be our diet. Now we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of things, and I say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most popular segment that we have on

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<v Speaker 2>the morning show each and every week every Tuesday eight

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<v Speaker 2>right around eight forty with you Julius Firding And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the fads we're talking. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fad, Maybe that's the wrong word, but all the rage,

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<v Speaker 2>the obsession, I guess is a word that you use

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with protein. So you know, animal sources

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<v Speaker 2>like meat and poultry and fish and eggs, dairy sources

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<v Speaker 2>of complete proteins. There are many in plants, beans and

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<v Speaker 2>peas and lentils and nuts and seeds and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody feels like this is the be all end all.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like right now, protein and protein diets.

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<v Speaker 7>Tom, I think we've been become protein proud every food.

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<v Speaker 7>I think every food now has its high protein version.

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<v Speaker 7>My cereal, my ice cream, my pancakes, my popcarts, it's

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<v Speaker 7>in everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I think marketing.

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<v Speaker 7>Is trying to make me feel good about my bad habits.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, now, wait a minute, do we do acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that the protein does a lot of good things? So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with the pros of protein.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there's a.

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<v Speaker 7>Lot of really good pros. You know, it's the building

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<v Speaker 7>block of life, your muscles, your hormones, your enzymes. It

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<v Speaker 7>keeps you full, it keeps you focused, it keeps you strong.

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<v Speaker 7>It helps build muscle. It's helpful if you're an athlete

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<v Speaker 7>you're recovering. It's even helps you age well. It maintains

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<v Speaker 7>muscles as you get older. There are so many positives

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<v Speaker 7>for it. But I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 7>I think we're getting a little too much protein that

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think there's a balance here. It's not that

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<v Speaker 7>protein is bad, it's that the moderation of proteins get

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<v Speaker 7>lost in the marketing. Everyone's marketing high protein this, high

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<v Speaker 7>protein that. And trust me, I love a good hamburger

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<v Speaker 7>on the grill, but not.

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<v Speaker 1>Three times a day, right, right.

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<v Speaker 7>And also, Tom, I was doing some research yesterday about men.

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<v Speaker 7>I think men get way too much protein really women

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<v Speaker 7>that they need. Yeah, so I was I put your

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<v Speaker 7>statistics in my research, Like, you're an average guy in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of bill and we'll talk about your super average

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<v Speaker 7>and a lot of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very very average in those things. You have

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<v Speaker 2>not far below out. Thank you for reminding me of that, though, Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like hearing that at eight forty five. I hear

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<v Speaker 2>that from my wife twenty four hours a day. But

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, so back to you and your diet.

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<v Speaker 5>Like so you only need.

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<v Speaker 7>About the hunger grams today. So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 7>that really means. So I looked it up. So that

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<v Speaker 7>would be two eggs for breakfast, a chicken sandwich at lunch,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe some fish for dinner or a steak.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's it. You're good.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't need your protein shake in the morning. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't need like a jerky between you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 7>need any more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you said for men, Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what about for women.

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<v Speaker 7>For women, it just depends once again on height and build.

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<v Speaker 7>If they're average, it does come down to about the same,

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<v Speaker 7>a little less than one hundred gram it's about ninety.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, I always hone in on you know

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<v Speaker 7>that some eggs for breakfast, chicken sandwich, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 7>nice dinner. But if you keep you know, if you

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<v Speaker 7>don't combine your carbs with like having a hamburger without

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<v Speaker 7>a bun, for instance, First of all, it's boring and

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<v Speaker 7>it's weight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really boring. Had a cheeseburger last night, really boring.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, but you know you need the bun. The carbs

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<v Speaker 7>with the proteins help you digest better. They give you

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<v Speaker 7>it gives the protein a source to do its thing

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<v Speaker 7>is it's kind of a easy way to say it,

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<v Speaker 7>but you do need your carbs. And here's another thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Way too much protein. So what are we lacking fiber?

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<v Speaker 7>So a lot of people are constipated, so then you

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<v Speaker 7>need metamucil, so then you're taking something else. So you

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<v Speaker 7>have to be careful, like if too much of one thing.

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<v Speaker 7>We've talked about it a lot. It's you can't be

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<v Speaker 7>protein obsessed. You can be protein aware. But I think

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<v Speaker 7>most people, if they really sat down and looked at

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<v Speaker 7>their diet, they're getting plenty of protein. I think there

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<v Speaker 7>was a reason we told children to eat all their vegetables.

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<v Speaker 7>What happened to the vegetables? All of a sudden they

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<v Speaker 7>become evil and you know, the carbs are okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we're afraid of them. You know though, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean, no, finish what you're saying, because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump in on something you just said. They're

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<v Speaker 2>about a particular type of food, forgive.

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<v Speaker 5>Me no, just jump right in. I love when you

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<v Speaker 5>jump well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, for example, Okay, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember years ago getting into a debate with Chris Welsh,

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<v Speaker 2>my old partner on the Reds Games, right, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is very much into watching what he eats. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember we were on a Red Team charter flying back

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<v Speaker 2>from somewhere and we got into the whole debate about eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember years ago when everybody told us that eggs

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<v Speaker 2>were terrible for us. Remember all that. Remember years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when everybody told us that a hamburger was bad for us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now all of a sudden, they're good for you, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So half the time I don't know what to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So take nuts, for example, and this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to jump in. Okay, A lot of nuts

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<v Speaker 2>are very high in protein. Okay, so it's a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing to eat for a snack whatever it might be

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<v Speaker 2>right in between meals that kind of thing, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>there are also a lot of them. From what I hear,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't stop me from eating them because I love nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>But from what I hear, you know, the flip side

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<v Speaker 2>to getting that protein from nuts is that they're loaded

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of fat.

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<v Speaker 7>And calories, tons of calories. So once again, nuts are

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<v Speaker 7>great and they're so healthy and there's nothing like a

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<v Speaker 7>good cashew, but you know, not the whole can there

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<v Speaker 7>we go again with yeah, eat your cashe's and don't

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<v Speaker 7>feel guilty about it. And the thing is, it's good

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<v Speaker 7>to be open minded about all our conversations, but don't

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<v Speaker 7>be so open minded that your brain falls out. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean being just really being smart about things. I think

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<v Speaker 7>people maybe are succumbing to a lot of marketing and

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of social media instead of stepping back and go, yep,

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<v Speaker 7>it's good.

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<v Speaker 5>You're right.

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<v Speaker 7>Protein. It's not that protein is bad, it's that the

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<v Speaker 7>moderation gets lost in all this marketing again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know you've brought up something again about

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<v Speaker 2>protein for athletes, right, you know. And the bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>is it's extra strength training that leads to muscle growth,

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<v Speaker 2>not extra protein intake. It might help in your recoveries,

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<v Speaker 2>you pointed out, but you can't build muscles by taking

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of protein shacks.

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<v Speaker 7>That is the one of the biggest myths. It's people

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<v Speaker 7>think more protein equals more muscle. It's not true unless

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<v Speaker 7>you're lifting harder and under consuming protein to begin with.

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<v Speaker 7>So that is one of the biggest miss out there.

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<v Speaker 7>Once again, you have to do the work. I wish

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<v Speaker 7>that we could just do these simple you know, eat

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<v Speaker 7>more protein and woila, there we go more muscle. But

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<v Speaker 7>it does come with some work. And that's the fun

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<v Speaker 7>part is that, yeah, eat the right things, but go

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<v Speaker 7>out and make things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was reading, well, we were getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this. I was reading it is important though.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess studies have shown Julie that as we get

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<v Speaker 2>older a little bit more protein probably is a good

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<v Speaker 2>idea because we start to lose as everybody knows. You don't,

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<v Speaker 2>but the rest of us common folk do start losing

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<v Speaker 2>muscle mass as we get a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 7>This is true. But once again, it's not that I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think we're under consuming protein. I think that we're

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<v Speaker 7>not getting enough exercise, or we're not on a weightlift,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, doing more weightlifting or a program that moves

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<v Speaker 7>your body. I'm more inclined to agree with the other

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<v Speaker 7>research that says let's move more watch our diets, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>but as we age, I think we move less either,

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, we might be injured. We don't feel

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<v Speaker 7>as well. Our body ages. It's not that we're broken,

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<v Speaker 7>but we have to age gracefully and we can't do

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<v Speaker 7>what we used to do, so but still keep it

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<v Speaker 7>up with walking every day, doing some weights every day,

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<v Speaker 7>doing some pilates or yoga, things that increase the strength

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<v Speaker 7>of your core, and those things really will make a difference.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think it's an extra steak or an extra

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<v Speaker 7>piece of chicken or a protein shake that's going to

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<v Speaker 7>save you from aging gracefully. I think I would rather

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<v Speaker 7>people move more.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I just think, you know, every time I

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<v Speaker 2>turn around, I'm like you, I feel like if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go have fill in the blank, they're telling

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<v Speaker 2>me how much protein is in it. The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I did learn in getting ready for you to come

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<v Speaker 2>on is that a lot of people think that okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to reach my protein quota, and before I

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<v Speaker 2>let you go, you know, they try to gobble it

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<v Speaker 2>all down and reach their quota in the morning, when

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<v Speaker 2>recent studies have suggested that you ought to spread it

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<v Speaker 2>out over the course of the day, not all in

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<v Speaker 2>one meal.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, your body will, it will get constipated on you.

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<v Speaker 7>Then you won't get any fiber. You will feel awful.

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<v Speaker 7>You do not want to get all that stuff that's

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<v Speaker 7>in the morning or even at one meal, and you

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<v Speaker 7>won't feel well. You'll feel tired, you'll feel sluggish and

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<v Speaker 7>not a good idea with everything you don't want to get.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't have to get everything in first thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You do have time.

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<v Speaker 7>You do have the whole day, and you might as

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<v Speaker 7>well use your whole day and eat when you're hungry.

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<v Speaker 7>Eat and your body will tell you what you eat too,

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<v Speaker 7>depending on your activity level, what you have planned, what's

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<v Speaker 7>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I'm not going to get all wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>in this protein stuff anymore, not that I did to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with anywhere. All right me neither?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, well, look, when you're running one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty miles in a week, you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about it, all right, Jules, you're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a great rest of your day

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll catch up again next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Tom. All right, Julie is forting. She is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I told Chuck Ingram I said, you know his buddy

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<v Speaker 2>was coming on again today? Yep, And you said your

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<v Speaker 2>wife you think was actually in her dorm at Xavier.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you said? Yeah, that's it. I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Julian Liz were in the same dorm together, a

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<v Speaker 6>good x U.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed home of the fighting Muskies. That's right,