WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 12/27/25

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<v Speaker 1>Day, there's Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Midday on a kind of a yucky but halfway warm

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning. Boy, they're getting hit on both coasts with

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<v Speaker 1>the weather. So we escape that at least hope you

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<v Speaker 1>all had a good Christmas. I did. I am happy

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<v Speaker 1>to say that God blessed me with a grandchild. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. Got a little granddaughter and it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun to be with her sometime part of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Christmas thing. So I think Christmas is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be fun again. I've kind of got a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is fun when you're a kid. Obviously, it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>when you have kids, and then it becomes fun again

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<v Speaker 1>when you have grandkids. So I'm in for some good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, speaking about good stuff, some not so good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>In Minnesota, I'll tell you the hits just keep oncommon

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<v Speaker 1>with that place. Some of it, although it's obviously very serious,

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<v Speaker 1>is actually comical, and I've got a couple of them

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about today, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know first. At ten o'clock, Janis Heisel of

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<v Speaker 1>the Epoch Times. She is on this story, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and others too, more than any other national journalists so

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<v Speaker 1>far she's got. She did a twenty page article, very comprehensive,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna be talking to Janis at ten and

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven o'clock we're going to talk to FOP President

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Kober about what's going on with CPD, what we

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<v Speaker 1>can look for. And I want to ask him too

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<v Speaker 1>what the status is for the witch hunt. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is a witch hunt of Chief Fiji. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him at eleven o'clock. In between those times seven

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<v Speaker 1>four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one

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<v Speaker 1>are the numbers. If you want to be a part, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's lead it off here. Article in Fox News Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Senate candidate and by the way, this Senate candidate also

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be the lieutenant governor of the state of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Senate candidate wears Hajib in visit to Somali market

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<v Speaker 1>as fraud scandal unfolds. Minnesota Lieutenant governor and US Senate

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<v Speaker 1>candidate Peggy Flanagan was seen on Somali TV station. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we have those here now. Well, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing Ah Hajib at a mall as widespread fraud. The

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<v Speaker 1>scandal implicating some Somalis plagues the state. Now they wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>some Somalis. I've seen figures of the people that either

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<v Speaker 1>have pled or are charged or who are suspects. About

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent Somali.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The hajib is kind of that scarf looking thing that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes Muslim women wear. Wearing a hajib is it's typically

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of obedience to God. Quote and worn to

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<v Speaker 1>show modesty. Flan again, this Lieutenant governor. She is a Catholic.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that publicly and on her campaign website is

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<v Speaker 1>quote her view on immigration is grounded in her Catholic faith.

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<v Speaker 1>Really okay, her far left views and it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>this incident, it's something else. Also prompted her to wear

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<v Speaker 1>a are you ready this will be a big surprise

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<v Speaker 1>to you, protect protect trans kids shirt with a knife

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I don't know what that means. In August,

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<v Speaker 1>she did that in a viral video, telling parents and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to quote here, when our children tell us

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, it's our job as grown ups to

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<v Speaker 1>listen and believe them. Close quote so translated what she's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what you mom and dad want for your child, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter, the child will make the decision. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to be twenty one to buy beer, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>they want these libs want the government to make the

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<v Speaker 1>decision on these trans things, not the parents. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>upside down. Well Walsh got involved in it too. He's

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<v Speaker 1>quoted as saying, the programs are set up to move

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<v Speaker 1>the money to people. The programs are set up to

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<v Speaker 1>improve people's lives, and in many cases, the criminals find loopholes.

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<v Speaker 1>Really you just find an add out. But anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>set up a new anti fraud task force. A little

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<v Speaker 1>laid on that governor. The message here in Minnesota, this

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<v Speaker 1>is from the governor again, and this is laughable. The

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<v Speaker 1>message here in Minnesota is if you commit a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>if you commit fraud against public dollars, you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to prison. Close quote. You know, once again

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<v Speaker 1>a little late on the draw there, Governor. Where were

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<v Speaker 1>you in the last three or four years when apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people knew about this but they just

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<v Speaker 1>weren't coming forward. I tell you what, if that guy

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get indicted, I think something's wrong. There are criminal

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<v Speaker 1>statutes and I'm not gonna say I know Minnesota law,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are criminal statutes that are based on negligence,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them gross negligence. And this is negligence

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<v Speaker 1>of the highest sort. While you and I pay our

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars, and make no mistake about it, this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is our money because at the root of it is

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of it is federal money. And guess who

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<v Speaker 1>pays into that. That's you and I. It's just I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what. For talk show host, it doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any better, and this one's it's not going to go

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<v Speaker 1>away soon. Donald Trump weighed in on this, as only

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<v Speaker 1>he can quote. I guess this was on truth social

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<v Speaker 1>quote from Trump. Send them back to where they came from.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over. I'll tell you what. Harsh words, hard words,

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<v Speaker 1>but by God, in my opinion, accurate words. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to like everybody. We don't. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people who, so far, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>about or ninety percent responsible for what's going on. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to like those people. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>wear hajeeves. You know, we don't have to fear being

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<v Speaker 1>called an islamophobe. I don't know. We're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to see where this is going, but it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a manna from heaven for people like me along

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<v Speaker 1>those lines. This one I keep saying, you won't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta stop doing that because once you see one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, usually something else happens. Okay, The third

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<v Speaker 1>ranking leader in the House of Representatives, who happens to

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<v Speaker 1>hail from Minnesota, demanded answers from Governor Tim Watz after

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTuber tried to confront employees of an alleged daycare

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<v Speaker 1>center get Ready for This that had misspelled signage and

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<v Speaker 1>no signs of activity outside, but reportedly received four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in state funds. Got a brief audio of it,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not video. It just to kind of give you

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<v Speaker 1>a feel for this. Could you play that, lamb? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to put my son Joey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this your daycare center? No, that's not what's helping.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to put a child in daycare. By

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<v Speaker 1>all the daycare centers seem to be closed. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>opening the doors.

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<v Speaker 4>Your work here?

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<v Speaker 1>Ohs yeah, what's helping?

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<v Speaker 5>Where are the kids? Sends its license for seventy four

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<v Speaker 5>children right here? State of Minnesota? Where are the kids?

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<v Speaker 5>They got paid one point two six million dollars. In

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<v Speaker 5>fisted Your twenty twenty five it says the have a

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<v Speaker 5>capacity for seventy four children.

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<v Speaker 1>When when where are the kids?

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<v Speaker 6>Right here?

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<v Speaker 5>State of Minnesota website. You work here and you don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was dead before. I don't know what was going

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<v Speaker 1>to going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Were there any kids when you worked here?

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<v Speaker 1>He's dead, he's there with so many I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how many kids are there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know your tax dollars at work, folks. This

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<v Speaker 1>thing is just incredible. Just to kind of set the

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<v Speaker 1>ground on this, I think you get it based upon

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<v Speaker 1>what you hear. This guy, Nick Shirley, he's some YouTuber,

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<v Speaker 1>not real sure what the definition of that is, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a good thing here, doing a public service.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows up at this learning center, and if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the video of it, you can see it plain

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<v Speaker 1>as day, A big old sign in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>learning center that is spelled. They spell it Leering center.

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<v Speaker 1>So the learning center is a leering L E A

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<v Speaker 1>R I n G. It was spelled. It's an alleged

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<v Speaker 1>daycare center. They got four million bucks. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it keeps getting worse and worse, and the dollar

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<v Speaker 1>amount keeps going up. Four million dollars of hard earned

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars. This is the Republican House majority whip in

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<v Speaker 1>the believe Minnesota Senate or House. He says, four million

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<v Speaker 1>bucks of hardered tax dollars going to an education center

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<v Speaker 1>that can't even spell correctly. Care to explain this one,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Waltz. That's what this guy Tom Emmer, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leading the charge on this thing. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote on X. It keeps growing, it keeps growing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've not heard the last of this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to keep bu to be the gift that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps on giving. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just sad. I swear to God, all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Minnesota is not that big of a state.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really isn't. And nobody knew. I know

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<v Speaker 1>people knew. I know the mainstream media knew about it

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what I've read. Of course, the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything about it because they were afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>the R word. If they covered it, they would be racist.

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<v Speaker 1>And these elected officials in Minnesota are so beholden to

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<v Speaker 1>the Somali community, they just shrugged their shoulders and let

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<v Speaker 1>it go. That is negligence of the worst kind, and

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<v Speaker 1>possibly worse than that. Somebody in the upper echelon's not

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<v Speaker 1>the lower stream guys of Minnesota government has to go

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for this because it's just it's unprecedented, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joke. It really is. It's the worst financial

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<v Speaker 1>scandal in this country's history. Well, Jimmy Kimmel, that's a name.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably thought you weren't going to hear the news

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<v Speaker 1>too much anymore. He got his ears pinned back to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Just recently he went to the UK. It just says UK.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that it's London or somewhere in Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>He is facing renewed backlash following his decision to criticize

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<v Speaker 1>the United States during an address to the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>that aired on Christmas Day. Real Clear Politics co founder

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Bevan dismissed Kimmel's remarks as contradictory and called like

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<v Speaker 1>this and called the late night host insufferable, which, of

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<v Speaker 1>course he is. Kimmel was elected to deliver Channel four

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<v Speaker 1>his annual alternative Christmas Message, a long standing counterprogram speech

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<v Speaker 1>that airs opposite the BBC's traditional Royal Christmas. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fly over to Great Britain, Okay, have a little fun

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<v Speaker 1>over there, then go on national International UK television and

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<v Speaker 1>criticize your country. You know, there used to be an

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<v Speaker 1>unwritten rule for politicians and really anybody that if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to another country, you didn't criticize your own country.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to do that, you did it at home.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, with today's breed of liberals, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the thing anymore. Anyway. During the speech, the late night

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<v Speaker 1>hosts repeatedly took aim at President Trump, claiming that quote

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<v Speaker 1>tyranny is booming over here close quote in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>he booming over here in the US. He also apologized

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of us, our country, telling the audience, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say this. You might not believe this one, telling

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<v Speaker 1>the audience quote, this is the a hole Jimmy Kimmel quote.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not bright, we're Americans. Wow, what a way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. You know, I got an idea, you whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you stay over there? Why don't you stay

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<v Speaker 1>over there? If we're not bright, why would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back? You know, you're the one that's not

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<v Speaker 1>too bright, Jimmy Kimmel. This guy is just you thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would have his come up, but he didn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a shame, it really is. We are not bright,

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<v Speaker 1>We're Americans. That's what he thinks about you and I.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's still on the air anyway. The guy from

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<v Speaker 1>Real Clear Politics and Real Clear Politics I've found to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty pretty much down the line, maybe lean a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit left. He said. Kimmel's claims don't man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>right about this. Listen to this is logic here. Bevan said,

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel's claims don't make sense given the host meaning Kimmel

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<v Speaker 1>continued presence on television, calling him among the most insufferable

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<v Speaker 1>trumpeters in America. There's a real contradiction there. If tyranny

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<v Speaker 1>is booming, how can his show be doing so well?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what mister Bevan asked. I don't know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>doing so well. I haven't seen any ratings since he

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<v Speaker 1>went back on the air. My sense is it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not doing too well. You know, whatever cable system I

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<v Speaker 1>have at my house, one of the channels gets the

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<v Speaker 1>old Johnny Carson shows, and you know what if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing anything and it's on, I'll watch it. What

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<v Speaker 1>a difference between him and this new breed of late

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<v Speaker 1>night talk show hosts. There's no comparison. Carson, if he

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<v Speaker 1>ever did politics, he made sure that he did both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, think about it. For those of you in

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<v Speaker 1>my age group, you don't know, and you really couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell what Johnny Carson's politics were. And that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is supposed to be. Then you got the buffoon

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<v Speaker 1>David Letterman. I don't know if you've seen him lately.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he thinks he's Santa Claus. He's always always

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<v Speaker 1>sticking it to Trump, always criticizing his country. Don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that he's doing it in someone else's country. But late

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<v Speaker 1>night television used to be a big deal, used to

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<v Speaker 1>be something that maybe you'd want to stay up to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty four. Not anymore. And that's just not me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the people speaking. Here's he says this. If again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Kimmel, No, I'm sorry, this is mister Bevan.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know Tyranny is so If you know tyranny

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<v Speaker 1>is so great in the US, why does Jimmy Kimmel

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<v Speaker 1>get to go on the air every single night and

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<v Speaker 1>bash the resident of the United States. That seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a free America. Close quote, and he's absolutely right. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Paul D. Thacker. The only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>could find out about him, he's an investigative journalist and

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote on X a couple of days ago, the

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<v Speaker 1>British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to speak out against fascism

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<v Speaker 1>and in favor of free speech. This is the same

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<v Speaker 1>government that only recently arrested comedian Graham Lenihan. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different ballgame there. Boy, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, in specifically Great Britain, free speeches is going

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<v Speaker 1>out the damn window. I mean, it's like King George

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<v Speaker 1>has come back. It's very very concerning. At any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just it's just a sentence. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>read it again. The British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to

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<v Speaker 1>speak out against fascism and in favor of free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this government that only recently arrested Graham Linehan.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is upside down in England. And the funny I

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<v Speaker 1>love this the closing and the funniest joke is Jimmy Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if you thought he went away and

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<v Speaker 1>stuck his head in the ground, you're wrong. But guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it makes a dimes worth of difference

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody's watching that crap anymore. Late night television has

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<v Speaker 1>just ruined itself. I think a guy that a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>even whatever, who was funny, kind of a Johnny Carson type,

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<v Speaker 1>who got a show like that and stayed out of

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<v Speaker 1>politics or gave it to both sides. I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>that could be pretty successful. But hey, that's just me. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to take a break for the news, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back. The phone numbers are seven four nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, won eight hundred. The big one Mike Allen

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday, Mike Allen Saturday Midday. You know, talking to Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been talking about it all week. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in for us Sloaning three or four days last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to, by the way, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in for him all week this week, nine to noon.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the big topic among talk show hosts and

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<v Speaker 1>really people that are concerned about what's going on and

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in these things just for the heck of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I googled most liberal state in the country and this

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<v Speaker 1>thing came up from a group called World Population Review. So,

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<v Speaker 1>being the responsible talk show hosts that I am, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into them. World Population Review is an independent data

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<v Speaker 1>driven website providing accessible tools population statistics, demographics, blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. It seems to be pretty straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know much about them, but at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>it might surprise you. I thought for sure, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>for sure Minnesota would come up. It did, but only

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<v Speaker 1>at eighteen. So according to this outfit, the most liberal

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<v Speaker 1>state in the Union is Massachusetts. Doesn't surprise me too much.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Minnesota at eighteen. Where do you think Ohio fell?

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<v Speaker 1>They fell at about thirty eight. They're the thirty eighth

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<v Speaker 1>most liberal state in the country according to this group,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's about right. And the fiftieth and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to start looking for apartments there. Tomorrow is Alabama. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of their take on what's going on. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask Janis about this. Janis Heisel, she

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<v Speaker 1>will be on at ten o'clock and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before with her. There's a saying out there it's

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<v Speaker 1>called Minnesota nice. And you know, the description I think

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gives the kind of tent that everybody's nice

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota. I don't know that's the case. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>open minded about things, I guess, and they're welcoming of

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<v Speaker 1>things different. Okay, I'm not that way, but I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. But what I don't get is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask her this too, what I don't get is

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<v Speaker 1>how these citizens aren't howling. I mean, some of them are,

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<v Speaker 1>but sure doesn't seem like many. I mean, you think

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, what I'd like for somebody to do,

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't be that hard given everything we have now,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can do, as statistics is per person in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, per citizen. I should say

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<v Speaker 1>what this whole mess so far in Minnesota has cost

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<v Speaker 1>the average taxpayer. I don't know what it would be yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably a better idea if you're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, to do it after it's all settled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you that's not going to be for

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time. Unfortunately, Moving right along here since

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<v Speaker 1>apparently nobody wants to talk this morning, Ice and this

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<v Speaker 1>is from Newsmax. I don't know if y'all look at

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<v Speaker 1>Newsmax very much. You know, really, I don't, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I because I just think Fox News predominates over everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good though. It HiT's some good stuff, good

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<v Speaker 1>ip eds. Anyway, they published an article the day after

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas yesterday Ice. This is a report from ICE. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent arrested, meaning illegal aliens had criminal ties seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that kind of flies in the face what the

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media and the lefties are saying with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>who ICE is getting, because Donald Trump did say the

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<v Speaker 1>first priority is getting the worst of the worst. However, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking for the of the worst, if you

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<v Speaker 1>come across someone who trespassed into our country, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what Looney left, that is a crime. You are

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<v Speaker 1>violating the law when you do that. So they picked

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<v Speaker 1>them up too. It would be uh, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>negligent if they didn't. But here's just a couple of

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>paragraphs of what this Newsmax article. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff in here. It's by Charlie McCarthy. Roughly seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of illegal migrants. I don't know why they call

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<v Speaker 1>it that. I'm going to change it here, roughly seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of illegal immigrants, because migrant to me has a

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<v Speaker 1>connotation of legal arrested by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>ICE under the second Trump administration reportedly had been convicted

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<v Speaker 1>or faced charges for criminal offenses. That's not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, it's also criminal charges in the states

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<v Speaker 1>where these people came from. Goes on to say. New

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<v Speaker 1>data provided to the Washington Examiner. Boy, that's another good

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<v Speaker 1>paper shows Trump administration arrested about five hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand illegal immigrants between January twentieth, when he was

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<v Speaker 1>sworn in, and December eleventh, just a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is according to the Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was put out a thing saying that

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<v Speaker 1>roughly seventy percent, like I said, which is, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and sixteen thousand had and I'm quoting from

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<v Speaker 1>ICE had quote criminal convictions or pending criminal charges in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, underscoring President Donald Trump's promise to prioritize

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of the worst in immigration enforcement. He is

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. But what he's not doing, and ICE is

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<v Speaker 1>not doing through the President is just letting someone go

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<v Speaker 1>like Biden did. Well, he didn't even try to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still going to be held for what they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's trespassed into our country. So you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things going on with that. This article goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to say that ICE is going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>whereas it one hundred and seventy billion dollars in additional

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<v Speaker 1>funds in the fiscal year I believe twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty twenty seven, one hundred and seventy billion bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can hire a lot of ICE officers

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<v Speaker 1>with that, which again shows the administration's dedication to responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>and enforcing the border. Tom Homan was on the TV

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago, and he said he went up

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<v Speaker 1>in a helicopter, flew around, didn't see anybody sneaking in,

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<v Speaker 1>got on a four wheeler, drove around, didn't see anybody

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<v Speaker 1>sneaking in. So it's working. Personally, I wish they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting more than they are, but it sounds like things

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<v Speaker 1>are happening. We got some calls here. Let me talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Let's see, let me talk to Jesse. This one

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<v Speaker 1>might be good. Hey Jesse, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, Mike, This is Jesse from Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 7>I've listened to you. I've listened to you a few

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<v Speaker 7>times this week, and you keep referring to what's happening

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<v Speaker 7>in Minnesota as negligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's at its easiest, it's negligence. At least, it's negligence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I'm saying, Jesse. I probably didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make that clear enough.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, just I mean, I could be negligent all day long,

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<v Speaker 7>and that million dollars is not going to follow my lap, right,

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<v Speaker 7>this was this was a criminal action.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, you know again, I don't think I was clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the elected officials. Uh, the elected officials

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<v Speaker 1>who are supposed to be policing that this thing, unless

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are cramming cash into their pockets, which

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<v Speaker 1>is well, then it's Katie bar the door man. The

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<v Speaker 1>federal statute is very hard on elected officials who take money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're talking about twenty thirty, forty years, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I meant by it. I should

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<v Speaker 1>be a little more clear, though, I preceied you let

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<v Speaker 1>me know. Thanks, Michael, Okay, thank you. Yeah, negligence is

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom, and there are criminal statutes based upon

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<v Speaker 1>negligence in Ohio, it's purposely recklessly or purposely knowingly recklessly

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<v Speaker 1>and negligently. And for the elected officials, if they're stealing

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<v Speaker 1>money or there's something more serious than just gross not

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<v Speaker 1>looking at things like they should, then I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Crowbar Hotel would be a good place for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we haven't heard anything about that so far,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Okay, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk to Jerry. He's all the way up in

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<v Speaker 1>Mercer County. Hey, Jerry, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 8>You talked about fraud touring them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's the that's the new coin phrase that

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:15.479
<v Speaker 1>they've coined.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>On Laura Ingram Show, they had emails from Smalli's in

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<v Speaker 8>Minnesota emailing to some only men in Philadelphia and on

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 8>the email said that they should come here. They got

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<v Speaker 8>programs here, you can make a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I heard that too. I'll tell you what it's.

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<v Speaker 8>They took fourteen and a half million dollars, bought bitcoins

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<v Speaker 8>with it, and fled the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoins great. Yeah, And you know what, as I said before, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe this is a tip of the iceberg

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<v Speaker 1>on this thing. It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had collars the last three weeks from Columbus saying,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Columbus has a pretty large uh Somali population.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think nothing like Minnesota. But the word is

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<v Speaker 1>up there, something's coming up there. I haven't heard anything personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but just stand by.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't hear anything about the Eboch time. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'll ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Her about it. Uh, well, I'll tell you what she

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<v Speaker 1>is on. And she's coming up right next. She's on

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>this like White on rice. I mean, again, very very

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in depth reporting. But this thing's going to continue unfold

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the year and probably beyond.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, thanks Jerry, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, at a minimum, at a minimum minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>it's negligence with respect to the elected officials. Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking money or favors or something like that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole nother ballgame. Hey, let's talk to ye in Xenia. Hey,

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>good morning, Jeff, Hey.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Good morning, my great show. That just one.

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<v Speaker 9>It also too is because I sent actually a email

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 9>to Janis about because when I used to live up

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 9>in Maine, they had a large, small population up there,

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 9>and I said, you ought to really look into it

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 9>up there, because I have no doubt that, you know,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 9>the information travels very quickly when there's easy money on tap,

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 9>and main Main's about as accurate as UH Minnesota is.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 9>So I wouldn't be surprised if they got some funny

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 9>business going on up there. But I was just wondering,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 9>you know, with all this stuff in the news and

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 9>supposedly how big this basically fraud is going to get.

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 9>I am sure that it's a probable USA wide. I

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 9>mean it's Minnesota is.

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 10>A prime example, but you know, it's things like that.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 10>When people find out that opportunities are there, I think

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 10>they take advantage of them.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>No question, no questions. And that speaks to the whole

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>uh tourism thing, you know what they're saying, it's a

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>new tourism thing to get people to come. Hey, everything's easier,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you can steal money, come on to Minnesota. I mean,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what you.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 9>Got exactly, And I think there's plenty of people out

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 9>there that take advantage of it. And you know, these

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 9>politicians when they get these donations, which I really call

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 9>bribery for the most part, that it's it's it's there,

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 9>and they will look the other way because I'm sure

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 9>nowadays they have so many either back doors, offshore locations

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 9>or the donations however they do it anonymously or everything

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 9>else because you know, and it's it's really going to

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 9>be a sad state of affairs because the money's gone.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not coming back.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 10>And the politicians can say, well, I didn't know, or

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 10>you know, I'm going to give the money back that

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 10>was donated to women. You took it in the first place,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 10>you know, that was that was the first crime.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 9>But the thing is, you know, it's just like Hillary

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 9>when she had all the money from the Clinton Foundation

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 9>and destroying the hard drives things like that.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Whatever happened. Nothing.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Now that's the biggest uh hornet's nest of corruption. I

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think there is the Clinton Foundation, but there are some

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>There are some politicians if they take money from a

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>group and truly don't know that this group is not

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a group they should be taking money from. I've seen

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it to where they have either given it back, well,

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't give it back because they don't want to

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>further the purpose of the group, but given it to charities.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>That happens. But not all that frequently.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 9>That's true, but that you know, I think the it's

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 9>it's usually okay, some of these politicians that get a

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 9>couple of million dollars, okay, so they've done it, you know,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 9>twenty thirty forty thousand dollars to a charity. You know,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 9>that is you know, it doesn't even come close in

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 9>comparison of how much money they pretty much got, you know,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 9>by illicit means or otherwise. And they seem to be

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 9>able to hide it extremely well because just like all

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 9>these groups that are supported by Soros, you know, no man, yeah,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 9>easily found out. But you know how many times in

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 9>the newspaper or on the news, even in Fox that

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 9>you read that, okay, this politician got x amount from

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 9>the Soros group, you know, and it's it's, it's all.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.479
<v Speaker 10>They got it very well covered up a lot, and

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 10>I think I think there is so much widespread corruption

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 10>I think in a lot of areas throughout the United

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 10>States that you know, we could reduce our deficit traumatic

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 10>dramatically if we would just go after some of these

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 10>people and make it and make examples of them, because

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 10>you know that if any Republican gets ever caught they're

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 10>purp walked in front of the cameras.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>They're purp.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 10>They know that they're going to be breaking into their house,

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 10>or they're there on the news. CNN's right there on

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 10>the spot. But all these other politicians, when you have

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 10>democratic leanings, just nothing ever really happens that I've seen.

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, Jeff. You've obviously looked at

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>this problem and or paying attention to it. Do you,

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in your heart of hearts think that somewhere in this

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>whole damn thing, there's some politician elected officials somewhere shoving

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>cash in his pocket. Do you believe that?

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Obviously?

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 9>I mean, well, it's like what I would love to see.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 10>You know, they keep bringing up Pelosi's name and the

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 10>four hundred million cheese work, you know, of earning two

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 10>hundred thousand a year, and she leaves forty years later

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 10>a four hundred million in her pocket. You know, as

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 10>well as many other politicians on both sides have done this.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.959
<v Speaker 10>You know, they were supposed to pass the law that

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 10>that was going to be taken care of, and they

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 10>never really did. It's still going on. You know, why

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 10>can't you know they come to a consensus because Obviously

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 10>we're the ones that elect these people. Why can't they

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 10>come to a consensus, say, you know what, this is

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 10>illegal and if you get caught doing it, there's gonna

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 10>be serious ramifications because they need to do something.

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what it should be. Hey, I'm bumping up against

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the news.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>But hey, thanks a lot, Mike.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, thank you, great call. Yeah, you know, I

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean I kind of thought maybe they

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't shoving the dough in their pocket, but maybe they are. Hey,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>we do have to take a break for the news,

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>but when we get back, we are going to talk

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to James about the whole rotten hornes. It's nest in Minnesota.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But I did want to say, if you are holding

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>up to get on the air, I got an open

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>line deal ten thirty to eleven and eleven thirty to twelve,

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So just keep that in mind. Mike Allen Saturday midday, Well,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what abeat goes on in Minnesota. With

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>this fraud that they've uncovered out there. It seems to

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>me like the thought is there at least at nine

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars and probably headed for quite a bit more.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Janis Heisel of The Epoch Times has been on this

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>story like white on Rice in my opinion and in

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Newt Gingrich's opinion as well. She is the national reporter

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that's covering this thing the most thoroughly, and she filed

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>three stories this week. One a very very comprehensive story.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>If you're interested, and you haven't you haven't read any

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 1>of her stuff yet. This one is how Minnesota Minnesota nice,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and Janis is gonna explain that how Minnesota nice progressive

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>policy's paved the way for Somali fraud. Janie, thanks so

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>much for joining us this morning.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 11>Well, thank you, well, An, I appreciate that.

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Up are very Christmas I mean, Merry Christmas to you too.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. This story goes twenty three pages,

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>and it is I mean, it's got everything in it.

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>And as I said, I think the plot just thickens,

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 11>Oh, it's hard to even know where to start in

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 11>some ways.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, Yeah, what's the new? What did you find

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>out since we last talked. I know, the fraud is

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>just it just keeps going up and up and up.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But just kind of some of the major points that

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you have discovered recently.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, It's almost like one of those soap

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 11>operas that people were addicted to back in the day

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 11>when we last left our you know, our bad guy.

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 11>Here's what was going on. And the latest thing that

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 11>happened was just a couple of days ago, Kelly Loffler,

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 11>who is the head of the Small Business Administration, wrote

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 11>a letter to Tim Wallash telling him that she's cutting

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 11>off five point five million dollars. Now, that sounds like

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 11>a drop in the bucket, and when you compare it

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 11>to nine billion dollars, but it is, you know, a

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 11>chunk of money that you know, she's saying, Look, you're

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 11>not going to get this money because Minnesota cannot be

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 11>trusted to safeguard these taxpayer dollars. So that's the start,

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 11>and there's also quite a few efforts to try to

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 11>claw back some of the money from the people who

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 11>have already been convicted.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But Mike, as you know as a.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 11>Former prosecutor, the forfeiture process is not a flick the

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 11>switch and you've got the money.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 4>It takes a while.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>It takes a while if it happens at all, and

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>if people in Minnesota are counting on restitution to make

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the taxpayers hole I'm telling you right now, it ain't

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and it's not even gonna come close. In

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>your story that I talked about in the intro Minnesota

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Nice Progressive Policies at page four, I just want to

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>read one paragraph here because it's just incredible. You talk

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to a guy named Ed, just a normal citizen, I guess,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and he said, this is Ed. There's a willingness to

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>help everybody without any consequences. And then you write, this

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>attitude made the state a beacon for progressives. It also

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>manifested in generous welfare benefits. Here it is in twenty

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, those programs that you've described previously doled out

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>forty six thousand dollars for each person in poverty in Minnesota,

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>which is the nation's second highest amount, behind only Massachusetts.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>When I saw that forty six thousand buck figure, I mean,

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, ibou lost it, and that's forty six thousand

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>probably most of our money, national money from all over

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the United States. I mean, that's pretty incredible, wouldn't you think.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 12>Jeez?

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 11>I tell you, just anytime the dollar amounts start to

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 11>come out about this whole scandal, it's just eye popping

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 11>another one that is a lot of people are not

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 11>really pointing out or reporting on that. I do mention

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 11>in that story is that Minnesota actually had an eighteen

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 11>billion dollar budget surplus. Every bit of that is gone

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 11>and then some and in just one two year period,

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 11>in fact, they are now looking at being in the

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 11>hole by three billion dollars. And I'm telling you, the

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 11>people I've spoken to who are ordinary taxpayers are hot

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 11>about that, and they are feeling it because they are

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 11>seeing their property taxes go up because of the fact

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 11>that number one inflation over the last several years prior

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 11>to the current administration, there are a lot of policies

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 11>put in place that inflation did go up and the

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 11>health values went up, and therefore the taxes went up.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 11>Plus new taxes are being piled on top of citizens

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 11>to pay for these mandates coming from the state government.

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 11>And I'm telling you, people just feel the squeeze there.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 11>It's it's really people are are not are very unhappy.

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 11>I will say the ones that I've spoken to.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Are yeah, sures. And that's a theme that runs through

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this story. You know, if you would, for my listeners,

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>explain what you mean by Minnesota nice and it's you

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>use that term in uh a lot of your stories

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and it makes perfect sense. Will you just explain what

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that is? And I guess along with that the attitude

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that they have some of them out there.

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 11>Well, the term Minnesota and nice. I was actually told

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 11>it originated from a type of granite found there because

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 11>it's felled g N E I S S and that's

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 11>pronounced nice. But the kind of you know, manifesting in

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 11>a way of life, it's almost like the people came

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 11>from Norway. A lot of people there, and there's this

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 11>attitude where you're kind of you're semi warm, but semi frosty.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 11>At the same time they're saying is that a Minnesotan

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 11>will give you directions to anywhere except to his own

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 11>front door. So their hospitality is kind of more on

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 11>the surface. And as that guy ed said so succinctly,

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 11>when people are wanting to give and say, oh, I'm

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 11>trying to help impoverish people or hungry children or autistic children,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 11>there is a cultural tendency to just not ask that

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 11>very many questions about that. There's also not much of

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 11>a question, oh I need help. So when you don't

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 11>ask questions of either the givers or the receivers within

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 11>a government system, and you don't have checks and balances

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 11>in place, that's a recipe for trouble.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no question about it. And that's a theme

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that kind of runs through your story. At page seven,

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the former assistant US Attorney I think

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it's his name is Joe Thompson who worked on some

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of the cases. Oh no, Joe Tireb. I guess outlined

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>fraud fueling factors in this case. And then you know,

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>here's the weenie as they say, this is a quote

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>from the former US attorney. Yeah, folks, coming from a

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>society with high levels of corruption. Of course he's talking

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>about Somollians. You mix that with a government handout system

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that has almost no checks and balances, and that's just

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a perfect storm for high levels of corruption. Would you

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 1>agree with me that in many ways, that's pretty much

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the problem there in a nutshell.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 11>Well, I quoted him for a reason. You know, the

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 11>man did prosecute a lot of these cases. And you know, again,

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 11>part of the whole Minnesota Knighte and progressive culture is

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 11>that you know, include lusiveness, that whole inclusive thing, and

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 11>you don't want to say anything bad about people from

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 11>other countries or ethnic groups, because you know, it could

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 11>be viewed as racism. And so when people in the

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 11>inside of the system started to see, hey, this isn't right.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 11>How is it that this place claims to be feeding

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 11>you know, three thousand kids in one day and they

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 11>just started operating yesterday. You know, when they're asking questions

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 11>about this, they're saying, don't say anything about that. You

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 11>could be viewed as racist or worse. Some of these

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 11>whistleblowers have alleged that they were even surveilled or had

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 11>discipline and action taken against them when they tried to

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 11>raise concerns. So there are many, many layers to this

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 11>whole terrible situation there in Minnesota. But I would like

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 11>to point out, as bad as it is in Minnesota,

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 11>there may be states where it's worse. I'm looking into

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 11>trying to do more of a state a nationwide picture

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 11>of what fraud looks like.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Wish me luck with that, absolutely, And I think I

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>might have told you I've had any numbers of callers

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>on my Saturday show saying that and pointing to Columbus,

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of them said, hey, you know, stand

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>by because something's coming out of there too. Have you

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>heard anything about that?

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 11>That is actually on my very long list of follow

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 11>up stories to try to get to. I'm one reporter,

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 11>but man, it was sure to be nice to have

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 11>a team of us working on this. But you know,

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 11>we're a lean and mean operation and you know, try

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 11>to do our very best with with you know, just

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 11>a smaller staff. But I tell you what, I'm I'm

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 11>very aware of that. I've heard some things about that.

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 11>I haven't substantiated anything along those lines, but it is

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 11>on my list of things to definitely look into.

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, the stories you crank out, in the detail

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>within which you crank them out is absolutely incredible. It's phenomenal.

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, this just isn't some kind of

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>opinion piece. It said, boy, this is horrible. You drill

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>down on it, and I know I appreciate it. I

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>think everybody else does too. But one thing too, and

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>this I don't. Oh okay, this is from Joe Thompson,

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a quote that again I think, kind of just boils

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it all down. Minnesota's fraud ridden programs all have one

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>thing in common, and I know from reading your stories

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely right. The one thing in common sudden

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>explosive growth. According to figures, you know, the way these

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the amounts spent on these programs just skyrocket. I know

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>one of them I've read in your reporting for supposedly

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>helping I think it was disabled children. They were billing

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>at twelve bucks or excuse me, twelve hours per day.

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't make any sense. And that one had

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>explosive growth sounds to me like that's kind of a

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>common factor.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 11>Right, And that is started at like it was project

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 11>to cost two point two point two million a year,

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 11>went up to one hundred and seventy million within about three years.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, it's just incredible. You got a

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>governor who, you know, at the end of the day,

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be watching what's going on. There is

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.879
<v Speaker 1>no way that if this was happening in the state

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of Ohio, I guarantee you that Mike DeWine would know

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>about it and would have done something about it. And

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>as you said and others have said as well, and

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>again with respect to media reporting, nobody wants to be

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>called a racist, So this nonsense goes on. I mean,

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just incredible. What's next on your list Janis. With

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>respect to this, I know you mentioned you're going to

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>start looking at other.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:53.959
<v Speaker 11>States, right Well, looking at other states is a big deal.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 11>Also trying to bring out some more information about where

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 11>the money went. I have obtained some federal court exhibits

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 11>that show vehicles and checks and you know, other documentations

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 11>showing how millions of dollars of the taxpayer's money went

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 11>to things that most people would be pretty upset to see.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 11>Just trying to show where that money went. And uh,

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 11>also about the forfeiture process, how difficult that is. One

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 11>of the lawmakers I interviewed told me that technically the

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 11>taxpayers of Minnesota now on a bakery here in Ohio.

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 11>The quote own is in quotes, you know, because that

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 11>was one of the things that that reportedly was purchased

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 11>with some of these ill gotten games.

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And it goes on and on and on. I know

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't do politics. I know you don't report on

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>politics text you report on facts. But I've been ask

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you this I think a couple of times before. I mean,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the heat's got to be building under Governor Waltz to

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>get the hell out of there and resign. Have you

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.399
<v Speaker 1>heard anything more about that.

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 11>Well, the one of the Trump cabinet members, Lenna McMahon,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 11>the head of the education departments, Yees pointed out about

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.760
<v Speaker 11>these ghost students, uh, people who were receiving a bunch

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 11>of money for never even attending school or maybe even

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 11>didn't exist. These people didn't even exist, are you know

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 11>money going out? She faulted him for that. Now, in

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 11>his defense, some people are saying things like, you know,

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 11>the head guy can't know everything, but when there, when

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 11>it's this multifaceted, a lot of people are saying, in

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 11>fact what you said, which is that they believe he

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 11>had to at least know, and the whistleblader blowers are

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 11>saying that they told him. And on top of it, yes,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 11>there are there. These mayors didn't go so far as

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 11>saying that, you know, we want you to resign Tim Walls,

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 11>but one hundred mayors in Minnesota banded together and sent

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 11>a letter his way. Now, maybe you know, I know

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 11>the public's tired of letters, letters, letters, but you know

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 11>this one, when one hundred mayors are signing it, you

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 11>know that is a much louder microphone and so to speak,

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 11>or megaphones than just one lone voice or you know,

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 11>making a post on social media. So they're saying, look,

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 11>our communities are hurting. This has to stop. We demand accountability.

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 11>And they were asking it of not just him, but

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 11>also the state lawmakers.

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they have to have it. I've never

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 1>seen anything like this. I've been around quite a while,

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's just going to keep getting bigger

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and bigger. One thing, I just want to read a quote.

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>This is mainly for the listeners of something that Waltz said.

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just the guy's just he's not based in the

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>real world. He's in dream world three or somewhere else. Okay,

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the governor. This is outrageous. I expect political

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 1>attacks in an election year, said Waltz, whose re election

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:16.439
<v Speaker 1>bid faces at least ten Republican challengers, including Robins. He's

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 1>a state I think rep Okay, here's what he says, Waltz,

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>what is unacceptable is actively withholding information about fraud and

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 1>blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda. If

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.799
<v Speaker 1>there is fraud, it needs to be investigated immediately, not

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>sat on, redirected, or used for political theater. In your reporting,

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>which has been extensive, I mean relatively short period of time.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen any evidence of any of that, withholding information,

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda.

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 11>Well, it's certainly not on the inside of all of that,

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 11>But no, I haven't seen that. What he's actually responding

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 11>to is a representative. Robin's a lady who has the

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 11>fraud you know, Anti fraud and Committee in the House

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 11>of Representatives there in Minnesota. She uh, you know, said, look,

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 11>I have whistle blowers coming to me. They've they've come

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 11>out at this Uh, there's like an online portal where

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 11>they can they are guaranteed the anonymity. Apparently, hundreds of

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.799
<v Speaker 11>whistle blowers who work for the state well Welfare Department

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 11>have come forward and made allegations and provided the information

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 11>to her and other members of the committee. She says

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 11>she doesn't feel comfortable giving that to the Attorney general

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 11>or the other, you know, members of the government in

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 11>the state, so she gives it.

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 4>To the US Attorney's office.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 11>She's like, these people don't trust you. The whistle blowing

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 11>would stop if it went to you guys, because allegedly

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 11>you guys sat on it. You're the ones who's sat

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 11>on it. Now he's accusing her of quote unquote just

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 11>not doing anything with it or sitting on it. And

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 11>she's saying, no, I hint the information over. As soon

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 11>as we investigate that it's credible, we send it over

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 11>to the US Attorney's office, the FBI, other appropriate agencies.

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 11>And he's after he heard this. She said this at

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 11>a public meeting. That was his response that he accused

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 11>her of hiding information.

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, well, we're out of time, Jannis. I can't thank

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you enough. And I know my listeners feel the same

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>way because they tell me how much we appreciate you

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>filling us in on this because you're keyed in and

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>hope we can continue to call on you.

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, any tips about Ohio, feel free to contact me.

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 4>The easiest way to do that is just to go

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 4>on my.

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.760
<v Speaker 11>Twitter and you can see it, says Janis highful, Hi,

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 11>sle has my email address right there. It's harder to

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 11>explain on the air to just go to my ex

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 11>account Twitter or go to Epoch epoh Times and you

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 11>can try to find me on there.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good, Thanks Janis, thank you. Okay, all right, well

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. Like I said, the plot thickens

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's all over it. It's just hard to grasp

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 1>just the breadth of this thing, I mean, and it

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And accountability that's what's

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>needed here, and I hope at some point we get it.

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Ten thirty eight News Radio seven hundred W Mike Allen

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday. Going to get to the calls here in

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just a second, as promised, But there is something I

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>want to read. It's brief.

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I am so blessed in this job to have listeners

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 1>who are tuned in and know what's going on. And

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>occasionally those that I know will text me, Okay, I

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>got one not too long ago talking about the lieutenant

0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>governor Flanagan from Minnesota who wants to be the next

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota senator, talking about her this here's the text. This

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Flannagan chick in Minnesota that's wearing a hajib is Irish. Yeah,

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Flannagan Irish? I get it. If so, that's cultural appropriation

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and these are my words and the liberals hate that,

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>all right. The text goes on, if it's not I'm

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>going to dress as an Indian squaw for Halloween. Goes

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>on to say, Mike, when the worst of the worst

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>are with others. They are probably a little bit less worse.

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree. It's kind of like MS thirteen members are

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.240
<v Speaker 1>only allowed to hang out with other MS thirteen members

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>snatched them up and makes the point. They found that

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Ilhan Omar and Tampon Tim Waltz received campaign donations from

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>these and from these those billions. You know, I don't

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>know if you could trace it to the billions, but

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I do know, at least I've heard, I even drilled

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 1>down on it, that that's exactly what happened, you know,

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in one of them. I guess it's il Han Homer,

0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:16.320
<v Speaker 1>i Owmar head a fundraiser, political fundraiser at a restaurant

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that one of these jokers runs. And you know what

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean. That's not proving anything, but you're certainly allowed

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>to comment on it and read into it what you want.

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I'm really blessed to have listeners like that,

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and I so appreciate it. Okay, let's get back to

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the calls. Who's been hanging on the longest. Kathleen in

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>College Hill, Hey, good morning, Kathleen.

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 13>Well, thanks mine for taking my call. Yesterday you were

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 13>talking about the prosecution and errors that they had made.

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 13>There's a lot of problems in the County common please.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 13>There was a judge that he would not allow us

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 13>to cross examine Vanessa Wilberly on things that she pursued

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 13>her self about. For example, she said somebody died from

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 13>the fire. Nobody died from the fire, Yet judge would

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 13>not let us cross examine her on that. Over one

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 13>hundred members of the board of the Hammond North Condominium

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 13>Association voted to remove Vanessa Wilberly. The judge thought that

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 13>was a side show and wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to it.

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<v Speaker 13>He would not.

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<v Speaker 14>Allow us to call the president of the Hammon North Board,

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 14>George Alexander. And the reason I hope you're sitting down.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 14>The reason is because poor George Alexander, the.

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 13>President of the Hammon North Comomitium Board, would have to

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 13>use his PTO to come to court. The judge said

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 13>that he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was going to rule on.

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 13>He was going to rule based on the Ohio revised call.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathleen, you got to kind of wrap it up. I

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of callers here.

0:55:58.280 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 13>Yes, I know, and I've only been on hold for

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 13>over an hour.

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.720
<v Speaker 1>The judge, well, we can take care of that. Let's

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and we'll move on, you know. And I

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to be a jerk about it, but I

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about what she's talking about. And I

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't say the prosecutors made a lot of mistakes. I

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>don't the current prosecutor, Commy Pillach's of a different political

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 1>party than me. But I think she's doing pretty darn

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>good jobs so far. But anyway, enough of that. I

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>know she's probably mad at me. But how the hell

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>am I going to comment on something I don't even

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>know about. Let's talk to Fred in sunny Saint Petersburg.

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Do it?

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Fine?

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 15>Just a quick follow up on that surplus of eighteen billion? Yeah,

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:47.680
<v Speaker 15>in Minnesota, back when that was when the politicians were saying,

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 15>oh look what we got. We got eighteen billion next

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 15>or we're going to send you off checks. It started

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 15>out they were going to send checks and rebates of

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:59.959
<v Speaker 15>two thousand everybody, Okay, right. It ended up not being

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:05.319
<v Speaker 15>that much. Number one people did get checks and get rebates.

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 16>However, they had a company in Montana.

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:12.359
<v Speaker 15>Write the checks or you know, print the checks for

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 15>some reason who knows, probably cronies, and the checks were

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 15>mailed out in envelopes that looked just like junk mail,

0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 15>and a lot of people just.

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Threw them away.

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 16>Wow yeah, and uh and like hundreds of thousands of people,

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 16>you know, threw them away just and you know that

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 16>was on purpose. That just goes to show what these people,

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 16>they don't care about the people at all.

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 15>No, that's obvious, awful, it's disgusting.

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It is And this is one you know, the big

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of keyword now is affordability, and of course that's important,

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>but frankly, I think what's more important is accountability. These

0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>jokers from tim Walls all the way down need to

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>be held accountable for this because I mean, this is

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>easily and again I think we've only scratched the surface.

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>This is easily the biggest fraud case we've ever had

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in this country. And guess what, it ain't over. You know,

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to fathom that something like that would go on.

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>It's even harder to fathom that the governor and apparently

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the lieutenant governor of that state didn't do anything about it.

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It's go ahead.

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 15>I'm sorry, Well no, no, I didn't mean the to

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 15>go ahead.

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was just gonna say it just strange credulity

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to think that they didn't know about it. And then

0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Tim Wallas a couple of days ago, about a week ago,

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting together this task force. If you do this,

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going in Minnesota. You're going to jail. Hey where

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.959
<v Speaker 1>were you about five, six, seven years ago?

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:51.439
<v Speaker 3>Governor? Oh?

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 14>Sure, I know?

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 15>You know what else? All these other cities, it's going

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 15>to happen in Cincinnati if it hasn't already. Calmbus is

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 15>into it. I heard, Maine, all these other places. Can

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 15>you imagine all these people They're going to go write

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:09.439
<v Speaker 15>their checks to the to the tax band and as

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 15>they're writing that number down.

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:12.479
<v Speaker 16>They're going to have this in their mind.

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Yep, how how many?

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 9>How much can the people take?

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 16>I mean, eventually people are gonna say, you know what,

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 16>I ain't paying my freaking taxes.

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm telling you that there may be a

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 1>revolt along those lines. And you know what it would

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>be I think justifiable, because this is just enough. These

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>liberals they think, well, you know what, it's all for

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.959
<v Speaker 1>a good cause, blah blah blah, and there's no way

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they'd be stealing it. And screw the taxpayers who are

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>giving us this money. It's just and it's like I said,

0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned on it. I appreciate the call though, Thank you,

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Fred J. Yeah, you know, I'm a taxpayer. I'm

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to write that check pretty soon coming up,

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like writing it and giving it to

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the government thinking that a chunk of it maybe going

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to this crap to finance these people from Somalia and

1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 1>again ninety percent of them. I'm sorry, Liberals, I'm going

1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to continue to say that, you know that are ripping

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<v Speaker 1>off our country. And you know, he brought something up

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that just I hadn't thought of it. I think it's brewing.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point. I think the people are going to

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:26.960
<v Speaker 1>rise up on this thing. And if the people of

1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota don't, they're crazy. Anyway. Let's see Barry has been

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 1>holding on forever. Hey Barry, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning, Merry Christmas belatedly to.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, you too, pretty good, Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to ask if you could explain to me

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<v Speaker 6>why Amy one would vote for police stake COVID shutdown

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<v Speaker 6>Amy Atkins.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was surprised that she was the king.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they would have had, you know, a bigger name.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Democrats are struggling statewide now. But and I

1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know much about her, but I and the early

1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:14.640
<v Speaker 1>polls were is Vivek was really killing her. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've evened out now. It probably be a battle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd put my money on Ramaswami, though I can't answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question because you know what, I don't know. Seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice lady, But I wouldn't vote.

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<v Speaker 6>For and now just years and years of being on

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<v Speaker 6>the wrong side of anything that matters between abortion and

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<v Speaker 6>she was an early Obama supporter, an early Clinton supporter,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it was important, she just got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and I agree with you on that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with respect to the COVID thing. Uh yeah, again

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm going to watch the polls on this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was really shocked to find that they had it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of evened out now. So thank Ramaswami. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be a hell of an Ohio governor and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he will run a really good campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>win out at the end. But you know, you ask

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<v Speaker 1>a question. It's a good question Berry that well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't answer. I do not know why anybody'd vote for.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, as things stand today, if I had to

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<v Speaker 6>vote tomorrow, I'd probably vote for Vivid, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to wait until election day and see what's out because

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<v Speaker 6>if you vote a month or two early, you're just missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Something well you know what, And that brings up a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. You're right about that. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's saying that within the Republican leadership that hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vote early, vote early, vote early, and we can bank

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<v Speaker 1>those votes. So last two elections because of that, I've

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<v Speaker 1>voted early. But I know what you're saying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you vote a month early and the candidate that you

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<v Speaker 1>voted for implode, You're screwed. I know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, you know, I always take half a day

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<v Speaker 6>off go vote. They can go get breakfast somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But not everyone can do that, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I loved and still loved because

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the off year election just a few

1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 1>months ago. I loved going to the polling place to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you do it, and you think, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be and lucky to be an American. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I wish they'd get rid of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have to get rid of it. Across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that's going to happen the way

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be. It used to be the only

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<v Speaker 1>people that could vote early were sick people in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital and veterans who lived where the election was but

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<v Speaker 1>were stationed somewhere else. And they've just expanded it way

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<v Speaker 1>too much in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I'm a few years younger than you are,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, our parents drug us to the polling place.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And there used to be a thing called kids voting.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that long ago. It was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>charitable civic organization that he had little voting boosts. When

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go vote, the kid does too, to

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<v Speaker 1>acclimate them to you know, what it's like to go vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to it, but I really wish we could go back

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<v Speaker 1>to just the old way.

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<v Speaker 17>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if I don't see you, I'll you happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Be good, Okay, you too, Barry, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he does bring up a really good point

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<v Speaker 1>about the early voting. I mean, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is in Ohio. I think it's about

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<v Speaker 1>a month before maybe even more than that you are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking a chance casting your vote then. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that I respect politically, Alex Trantapeel you being

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<v Speaker 1>the main one, say that it's in the party and

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<v Speaker 1>the candidate's best interest to vote early. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that'll change someday, hopefully. Hey we got doctor Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>in Annapolis. Doc, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Mike carried doing New Year?

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<v Speaker 1>You too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Two quick comments. One, I hated with the leftists when

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<v Speaker 9>they discuss you know, when they get the immigrants, they

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<v Speaker 9>conflate naturalized citizens with the illegals. Yeah, used to they

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<v Speaker 9>used to say undocumented, but they think they've now since

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<v Speaker 9>dropped the undocumented, and and you know for the naive

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<v Speaker 9>out there, uh, that it makes for a lot of confusion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>they're talking about when liberals left just talk about the immigrants.

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<v Speaker 9>They're talking about the illegals, but they won't say illegal, and

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<v Speaker 9>they will.

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<v Speaker 1>We will. But you're right, I'm looking at a thing here, doc.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to google something and I've been using AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about an ice agent. It is horrible. I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw the video of it shot and injured by

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<v Speaker 1>what they referred to as an undocumented man.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh in Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>So the media sometimes uses it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, they do, but I've noticed that they've since

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<v Speaker 9>dropped the undocumented part.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that's their their ongoing effort to doctor our language.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>The one other quick comment is, uh, I'm Catholic, but

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<v Speaker 9>but I have the they it's kind of almost hypocritical.

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<v Speaker 9>The these Catholic charities where for a long time facilitating

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<v Speaker 9>the illegals entry into the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people were donating that.

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<v Speaker 9>It sounds all good and everything to donate the Catholic charities,

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<v Speaker 9>but they were funneling money to these organizations that would

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<v Speaker 9>go down to the border and uh and house and

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<v Speaker 9>facilitate the illegal sentry into the country, violating the law.

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<v Speaker 1>I read about that, and you know, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>I were Catholic, and I am, I don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the camp or church mass anymore. I go to a

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<v Speaker 1>different service, but I would sure drill down on that

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<v Speaker 1>to see if that's where it goes. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good about the Camp of Church. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're if they're involved in that, then shame on them.

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<v Speaker 3>But they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta move on though. Doctors Mike Okay, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. Yeah, an undocumented man. That's what AI refers

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<v Speaker 1>to this guy as I don't know. You know, some

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<v Speaker 1>say what's in a name, But I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to point out it's more than

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<v Speaker 1>not having documents, it's trespassing into our country. Hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>got just about a minute. Let's talk to Bobby. Hey, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling. I'm sorry, I can only give you

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<v Speaker 1>about a minute.

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<v Speaker 17>That's all I need. My brother, I want to tell

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<v Speaker 17>you we sure appreciate you holding that torture freedom up

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<v Speaker 17>high and bright every day because I think twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 17>six is going to becoming dark outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's looking like you never know, it's way early,

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<v Speaker 1>but might be JD. Van's boy, I could certainly live

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<v Speaker 1>with that. We've got to continue with Trump started.

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<v Speaker 17>We've got a plan for the future, my friends, and

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<v Speaker 17>go ahead and crush these left wing Marxists before it's

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<v Speaker 17>too late, because they will be on the streets come

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<v Speaker 17>this summertime. I guarantee you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything seems to be trending towards that. I just hope

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<v Speaker 1>people in this country are vigilant, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not real optimistic about the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably should be, but I'm not. But hey, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to get out of here for the news,

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<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate the corank you. Okay, thanks Bobby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to break here for the news. But when

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<v Speaker 1>we get back, we're going to talk to FOP President

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Kober. Lots going on in the law enforcement department,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to tell those that are on

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<v Speaker 1>hold now from eleven thirty to noon, when I get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, open lines four nine, seven thousand, one,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen with

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<v Speaker 1>hour three, third and final hour of Saturday Midday. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll tell you what. The violence continues in the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. Fox nineteen reports that a mother and two

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<v Speaker 1>children were shot on Christmas Day in the West End.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully there they survived. They're okay. I think they're at

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Arrested was some dude named Jadens Brown. He's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight. He's charged with three counts of felonious assault.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown had been accused of assaulting in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>the same woman he shot Christmas Day back in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, again, he was accused of punching her in

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<v Speaker 1>the face and throwing her to the ground. He has

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<v Speaker 1>more than forty arrest dating to nineteen eighty. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim

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<v Speaker 1>did not continue with the investigation. Here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this and a lot of other things, is FOP President

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<v Speaker 1>Ken kober Ken, Thanks so much for calling in.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, Mike, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I know you want to talk about some other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too, But that last sentence that I read,

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<v Speaker 1>those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim did not

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<v Speaker 1>continue with the investigation. That's not uncommon, is it, Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Cober No.

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<v Speaker 4>Not at all. Yeah, Unfortunately, it is all too common.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's usually a couple of reasons why those things happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you have a victim that decides that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason they don't want to prosecute, show up

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<v Speaker 4>the court, or and what we've seen several times is

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<v Speaker 4>they'll show up the court and it gets continued once place,

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<v Speaker 4>three times, four times and finally they go listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to see justice. I'm done, and they just

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<v Speaker 4>could come into court. And that is the unfortunate part

1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:05.680
<v Speaker 4>that happens way too often in here in Hamilton County.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, and probably other counties. But I know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact, because I mean I've dealt with it from

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<v Speaker 1>every angle that it happens. And you know, someday somebody

1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:15.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to do some kind of study as to

1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the cost to the criminal justice system for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's neither here nor there at this point. Elwood Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>you made a very very strong statement Ken when he

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested for ov I by your officers CPD officers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just your thoughts in general about that. That whole

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<v Speaker 1>situation with.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, well, you know, quite honestly, never should have happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you hit somebody, excuse me, you know, because of a technicality,

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<v Speaker 4>uh you know, gets let out. You know, it goes

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<v Speaker 4>to the Ohio Supreme Court, and the High Supreme Court says, no,

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<v Speaker 4>this needs to go back to the lower court and

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<v Speaker 4>be given a look at. And and instead, unfortunately, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a prosecutor that decided no, you know, not

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<v Speaker 4>going to do this. No one saw justice in this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I feel for the family. I feel for

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<v Speaker 4>the officers that that were there had to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>these things. But not only that, it's the impact that

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<v Speaker 4>it's having on officers that are wearing this uniform today

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<v Speaker 4>that are seeing this. But this is this is just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of you know, the final thing for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five that we've seen that officers are so frustrated with,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's low bail, no bail, you know, these light sentences.

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<v Speaker 4>You people with gun charges that are being convicted, that

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<v Speaker 4>are being put on probation just to go out reoffend.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just it's it's a terrible, terrible thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll you'll never convince me that that he did not

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<v Speaker 4>murder this woman when you look at the totality of

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<v Speaker 4>the evidence. You look at Joe Deaters and Mark Pete Meyer,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, two guys that have given their adult lives

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<v Speaker 4>to public service, to protecting Hamilton County. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>a sad, sad thing that went on.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is, and it's a kind of a black

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<v Speaker 1>eye for the criminal justice system. But you know, you

1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>throw into all those things that you talked about, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the downtown beat down, which we haven't heard the

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<v Speaker 1>last of that yet either on Four Street. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the cops did everything that they were supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>from my vantage point, and that's what happens. I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope we don't have another one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, that's the unfortunate part is it's what

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing, which is people are playing Hamilton County. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, one of the things that the SOP fought

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<v Speaker 4>for was residency so officers didn't have to live in

1:13:37.640 --> 1:13:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Hamilton County if they don't want to. And as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as that passed and both put in our contract where

1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:45.840
<v Speaker 4>you could live in counties outside of Hamilton County. You

1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:48.040
<v Speaker 4>can live in Indiana, you can live in Kentucky. Price

1:13:48.240 --> 1:13:51.519
<v Speaker 4>begin fleeing because they see what's going on. They get

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<v Speaker 4>a front row seat to what the justice systems like

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<v Speaker 4>in Hamilton County. They go, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>raising my family here, and I don't blame them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I knew that residency was relaxed. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you can go to other states.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad for that for the officers, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of speaks volumes, doesn't it. When the city

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<v Speaker 1>that they're policing in is a place they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to raise their family. I think that speaks volumes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it absolutely does. And that's sad because this county,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I grew up here in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 4>has so much to offer. I know, when we're seeing judges,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like Kurt Kissinger Josh Bukwitz, who are not

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<v Speaker 4>being re elected that are law in order, they're fair,

1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:40.080
<v Speaker 4>but they're firm judges, and people in this county are saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we don't want them judges. We don't want

1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:44.960
<v Speaker 4>judges like that to be here in Hamilton County. It

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<v Speaker 4>just speaks volumes, and that's why officers that see it

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<v Speaker 4>firsthand are going, Nope, I'm out, And I don't blame

1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:51.799
<v Speaker 4>them a bit. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to ask you about this, the Chief Fiji

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<v Speaker 1>witch hunt and witch hunt is probably too kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a term for it. Do you know what the status

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<v Speaker 1>that is? I mean, it was turned over to a

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<v Speaker 1>law firm, and really I don't even remember who the

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<v Speaker 1>law firm was, doesn't matter. It just kind of seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me like, okay, law firm, you better find something here.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the status of that?

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<v Speaker 4>Ken if you know, well, my understanding is it's the

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<v Speaker 4>law firms Frost, Brown and Todd. Okay, they've interviewed approximately

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know roughly. I think thirty officers trying to

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<v Speaker 4>find out, you know, if there's something that they can

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<v Speaker 4>they could try to use to have just cause to

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<v Speaker 4>fire Chief Diji. My understanding is, I think the contract

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<v Speaker 4>only runs to the end of the year, so we

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<v Speaker 4>may hear something soon. But I mean that's the impact

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<v Speaker 4>that even that has had on the cincinnat Police Department.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, where there's uncertainty. Don't get me wrong. Interim

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<v Speaker 4>chief Henny has stepped in has done an absolute remarkable job.

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<v Speaker 4>But anytime you have an interim chief, and unfortunately I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen it several times in my career, there's uncertainty. It's hey,

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<v Speaker 4>it's how long is he going to how long is

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<v Speaker 4>he going to be in this position? You know what,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going to happen? What's our future going to look like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not fair to police officers, it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 4>the residents of Cincinnati. And you're absolutely right, the way

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<v Speaker 4>Chief Fiji has been treated is just this is nothing

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<v Speaker 4>but a witch hunt, is you know, I've described it

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, they're they're going to make an arrest

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<v Speaker 4>and then they're going to decide what the crime is afterwards. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not how these things work, but that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not supposed to happen that way. You're absolutely right

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And you know you don't. You don't hire

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<v Speaker 1>a law firm to find something wrong with a police

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<v Speaker 1>chief who has a stellar record. It makes no sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me, but I guess it does. When you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Plumb Street down there. I know you're not well,

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<v Speaker 1>you are political, but you gotta kind of be a

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<v Speaker 1>walk down the middle. But I don't think Ken we

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<v Speaker 1>are ever going to see a Republican elected mayor in

1:16:55.880 --> 1:16:59.439
<v Speaker 1>this city or even on city council. I was hoping

1:16:59.760 --> 1:17:03.800
<v Speaker 1>so much that Christopher Smitheman would break through because he

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely a friend of the cops. But man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>and it's getting tough in Hamilton County too.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a shame, no, you know, without a doubt. And

1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:14.080
<v Speaker 4>we saw it. I mean we saw that the City

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<v Speaker 4>of Cincinnati they have no interest in having any kind

1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:22.000
<v Speaker 4>of you know, conservative on council. They don't certainly don't

1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:24.719
<v Speaker 4>want to conservative as the mayor, and that's a decision

1:17:24.760 --> 1:17:27.880
<v Speaker 4>they made. The city has to you just have to

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<v Speaker 4>live with it. And it's the same way in Hamilton County.

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<v Speaker 4>You're absolutely right, I mean, it's there. There is no

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<v Speaker 4>more law and order, tough on crime. You know, judges left.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, I think so far, Connie Tillis hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>done a bad job. But when you get to this,

1:17:45.560 --> 1:17:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Elwood Jonas saying, I think she just she dropped the

1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:50.800
<v Speaker 4>ball on this one for whatever reason. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, had we had you know, Melissa Powers there,

1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.120
<v Speaker 4>that this would have been a much different scenario. But

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<v Speaker 4>the reality is, this is what we have to live with.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a resident Hamilton County, if you're a police

1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:04.000
<v Speaker 4>officer in Hamilton County, this is just what you're going

1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:05.960
<v Speaker 4>to have to deal with. And that's why you're also

1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.960
<v Speaker 4>seeing officers that are leaving, and they're not leaving for

1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:12.800
<v Speaker 4>other departments in Hamilton County. They're going to other agencies

1:18:12.920 --> 1:18:18.240
<v Speaker 4>in Claremont County, Warren County, Butler County, just to get

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<v Speaker 4>away from this justice system as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, back in the day when I was involved

1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in law enforcement and CPD, it was exactly the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken When openings came up for CPD, people from the

1:18:33.800 --> 1:18:37.280
<v Speaker 1>county would come in droves taking the test because they

1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:40.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be Cincinnati cops. But as you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just completely turned on its head.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, well, perfect example. You know, we had, we

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<v Speaker 4>fought for and were able to get the city to

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<v Speaker 4>approve a lateral class of thirty officers. Yes, that class

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<v Speaker 4>is going to start here in about six weeks, six

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<v Speaker 4>to eight weeks. Seven people. Oh man, we have seven

1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.920
<v Speaker 4>a class, a lateral class of seven officers. Now, don't

1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:07.040
<v Speaker 4>get me wrong, I'm come happy to have those seven

1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:07.599
<v Speaker 4>that we got.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they authorized thirty and all we could get

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<v Speaker 4>was seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that something? I'll tell you what, And I probably

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<v Speaker 1>said this a million times, but in my wildest dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought that would happen. When I took the

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<v Speaker 1>test for the cadet program back in seventy four, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, when we got laid off from CPD

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty, we had to test again. It was

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<v Speaker 1>down at the Convention Center. There were thousands of people there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was an unbelievable and for it to

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<v Speaker 1>change that much. I just think it speaks volumes of

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<v Speaker 1>what the situation is with law enforcement now and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a shame that that happens. But hey, let me

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<v Speaker 1>switch gear and said, I you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some other things, but before we do that, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to backtrack a little bit. Issue five. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>remember Chief Striker, very very strong chief. I think part

1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:01.240
<v Speaker 1>of the reason why he would be a strong chief

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<v Speaker 1>was because he had civil service protection. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, Ken, I think not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh is the FOP and hopefully there'll be others that

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in bringing this back to the ballot to

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<v Speaker 1>try to reverse it. I know it would be an

1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:22.479
<v Speaker 1>uphill battle, but if we had that now, that protection,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Chief Fiji would be in the jam

1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:26.320
<v Speaker 1>she's in.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're absolutely right, and that is something that is

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<v Speaker 4>being worked on. It's of course in its infancy of

1:20:33.840 --> 1:20:37.120
<v Speaker 4>trying to trying to figure out, you know, to get

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.080
<v Speaker 4>the language, to get all these things that we can

1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:41.360
<v Speaker 4>so we can prepare this. But we are absolutely going

1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:43.960
<v Speaker 4>to be working on this. And you're absolutely right. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>if if we had a chief that was under you know,

1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:51.280
<v Speaker 4>civil service under our collective bargaining agreement, we wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>in this position. And that's that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>now that I've said, you know, with with interim Chief Henny,

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<v Speaker 4>he's in a fantastic position right now. He can go

1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.840
<v Speaker 4>and make whatever changes he wants and he can do

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<v Speaker 4>it without fear of being terminated, because the worst that

1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:09.920
<v Speaker 4>he can possibly do is get demoted back to his

1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:14.519
<v Speaker 4>assistant chiefs position, where chiefs didn't She didn't have that protection.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I forgot about that? Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's something that we are certainly going to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out how we can get this change. That way,

1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:29.440
<v Speaker 4>we can have a police chief that can make decisions

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<v Speaker 4>without fear of city Hall saying no, we're not going

1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:35.800
<v Speaker 4>to do this, and if you do well, we're going

1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:36.960
<v Speaker 4>to find a way to get rid of you. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's unfortunately why we are where we are.

1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the day, when this

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<v Speaker 1>is all over with, they're going to have to back

1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the brinks truck up to city Hall to get the

1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:51.479
<v Speaker 1>settlement that she gets. And I know she'd rather have

1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>her job back, but they did her wrong, and they

1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:56.479
<v Speaker 1>did her dirty. That's all there is to it. Last question,

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<v Speaker 1>I have contract negotiations coming up twenty six. Your thoughts

1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on that, I know you'll be in there fighting for

1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>your officers. Anything in particular about that that is unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, unfortunately, you know, three years ago when

1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:16.880
<v Speaker 4>we negotiated, you know, we were one hundred and fifty

1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:20.360
<v Speaker 4>hundred and sixty officer short. And don't get me wrong,

1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:25.680
<v Speaker 4>the city has made the financial commitment to have these classes.

1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:28.080
<v Speaker 4>The problem is we can't get people that want to

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<v Speaker 4>do this job.

1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I can, It's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of it.

1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Is is still a lot of it. You know, are

1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:34.680
<v Speaker 4>some political decisions that have been made, like said you

1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:37.400
<v Speaker 4>talk about the fourth and Element incident, this this stuff

1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:40.759
<v Speaker 4>with Elwa Jones, that is just keeping people from wanting

1:22:40.800 --> 1:22:43.760
<v Speaker 4>to be law enforcement in general. But yeah, as we

1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:45.519
<v Speaker 4>go in to these negotiations, we're still going to be

1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:49.160
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty hundred and fifty officer short. It's

1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:52.439
<v Speaker 4>it's really really going to be interesting to see, you know,

1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:55.320
<v Speaker 4>how this plays out, because you're you're going to have

1:22:55.400 --> 1:23:01.320
<v Speaker 4>to continue to give officers quality raises and hopes that

1:23:01.720 --> 1:23:03.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, people are going to say, you know what,

1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:06.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm willing to put up with the justice system. I'm

1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:08.760
<v Speaker 4>willing to put up with these things knowing that at

1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:11.479
<v Speaker 4>least I'm making a wage that I can take care

1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:12.040
<v Speaker 4>of my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, let me ask you question. You said

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty officers.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's fair to say, based on what you

1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>said and based on reality, they're not filled because they

1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>can't find anybody to fill them. Is that accurate?

1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Like I said, we're seeing it where you much

1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 4>like when I took the test, you know, to be

1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:36.000
<v Speaker 4>able to be hired as a Sin Saint police officer,

1:23:36.560 --> 1:23:38.360
<v Speaker 4>thousands of people. I was just telling you at the

1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:42.120
<v Speaker 4>convention center, thousands of people there, and you know, out

1:23:42.160 --> 1:23:44.599
<v Speaker 4>of those thousands of people, they would whittle it down

1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:48.599
<v Speaker 4>to two classes of fifty about a three or four

1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:51.240
<v Speaker 4>thousand people, they would select one hundred. So you saw

1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:55.439
<v Speaker 4>it was the top, you know, one hundred out of

1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:58.240
<v Speaker 4>four thousand. Now if we get four hundred people to

1:23:58.240 --> 1:24:01.160
<v Speaker 4>take the test, we're lucky and they're going to fill

1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:03.840
<v Speaker 4>a class one class of fifty. So they keep on

1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.120
<v Speaker 4>having more tests. Where I said, you used to get

1:24:06.160 --> 1:24:09.360
<v Speaker 4>two classes off each test, now you get one and

1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:11.679
<v Speaker 4>like I said, you're you're getting fifty out of out

1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:15.200
<v Speaker 4>of four hundred people. And well, once you get past

1:24:15.320 --> 1:24:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the written test and get into you know, the psychological

1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:21.599
<v Speaker 4>and some of these other things, it gets whittled down

1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:24.000
<v Speaker 4>to and if we get fifty, we're lucky.

1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:27.679
<v Speaker 1>You know what. And you can't just hire at willy

1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>nilly because you don't know what the hell you're getting.

1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:33.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a shame. Well, keep us posted, Ken, and we'll

1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>check in with you again. But I appreciate you calling.

1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:38.160
<v Speaker 4>In absolutely Thanks for having me, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Ken Cober FOP president. Boy, he is turning

1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>into one great FOP president. CPD has been blessed the

1:24:47.720 --> 1:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>men and women of CPD with strong leadership in their

1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>FOP presidents. And that is just so important. You have

1:24:57.120 --> 1:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to have that. You have to have that. I'm almost independent.

1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Ken still a police officer, but he's allowed

1:25:04.280 --> 1:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to advocate for his men and women and he does

1:25:07.880 --> 1:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a great job of it. Hey, we got to take

1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a break. Butt when we get back, we're going to

1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>go back to the calls. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, eleven

1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:22.360
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, News Radio seven hundred ww Mike callendar closing

1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>minutes of Saturday midday and as promised, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pones. Tanya has been holding on forever. Hello Tanya,

1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you holding. I'm good. I'm good, but you go.

1:25:38.960 --> 1:25:42.760
<v Speaker 18>Christmas to you you too, Thank you, sir. I was

1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:45.760
<v Speaker 18>calling just to put my two cents in on the

1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:52.839
<v Speaker 18>Elwood Jones case. Yeah, okay, just a quick background. I'm

1:25:53.080 --> 1:25:57.000
<v Speaker 18>I'm all for Trump. I'm all for this administration. I've

1:25:57.000 --> 1:26:00.000
<v Speaker 18>been to prison myself. I was engaged to a man

1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:03.960
<v Speaker 18>on death row twenty five years ago from Missouri. I've

1:26:03.960 --> 1:26:08.320
<v Speaker 18>been married three times. See my personal opinion from my

1:26:08.320 --> 1:26:12.840
<v Speaker 18>life experiences, is them using this hepatitis B as a

1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:19.479
<v Speaker 18>reason to let this murderer go. I believe it's false

1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:24.439
<v Speaker 18>because my first husband had hepatitis B. I did all

1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:26.120
<v Speaker 18>the normal things that you would do with a husband.

1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:29.160
<v Speaker 18>I even brushed my teeth with his toothbrush twenty.

1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:29.679
<v Speaker 17>Five years ago.

1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:34.479
<v Speaker 18>I also had another significant other who had hepatitis B.

1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:39.680
<v Speaker 18>I never contracted it, you know, yet they did not

1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:40.080
<v Speaker 18>have it.

1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I haven't looked when I was prosecutor

1:26:42.640 --> 1:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just very peripherally involved in it and some of the

1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>appeals and things like that, so I'm not really privy

1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to all the facts. I do know this though, Mark

1:26:51.240 --> 1:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Pete Meyer, who I know. We served in the Army

1:26:53.400 --> 1:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Reserve together. He was in the prosecutor's office when I

1:26:57.520 --> 1:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>was prosecutor. There's nobody better in this town on these

1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of things, and from what I understand, he was

1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:06.599
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than honked off about what happened.

1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I can't tell you this Ella Jones was a big,

1:27:10.320 --> 1:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>big case that meant a lot to a lot of people,

1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>especially the victim family. But it's just a it's a

1:27:18.520 --> 1:27:21.839
<v Speaker 1>sad situation. And you know the other thing about it too, Tanya,

1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna get a pretty good payday out of

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>this too, And that's what's wrong. I mean, it's all wrong,

1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>but that especially he doesn't deserve.

1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:34.519
<v Speaker 18>It, especially especially whenever it's coming out of taxpayers. First,

1:27:34.520 --> 1:27:36.160
<v Speaker 18>we had to pay for him to sit in prison

1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:38.560
<v Speaker 18>all these years, we had to pay for his original

1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:40.320
<v Speaker 18>case to get put on death brow, we've had to

1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:42.000
<v Speaker 18>pay for all of his appeals, and now we're going

1:27:42.040 --> 1:27:43.840
<v Speaker 18>to have to give him probably a good million dollars

1:27:43.960 --> 1:27:47.280
<v Speaker 18>or more. Yep, and he's out here already within two

1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:50.719
<v Speaker 18>weeks committing prime even though it's a traffic case.

1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>But what's to come next?

1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you know that he would be when you think

1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you do all that time, and granted he got let out,

1:27:59.080 --> 1:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you think he'd be a little bit careful about it?

1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:05.679
<v Speaker 18>I mean, I mean you would think, especially at his age,

1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:08.200
<v Speaker 18>that you would be blessed by God and would wouldn't

1:28:08.200 --> 1:28:10.719
<v Speaker 18>come home and actually live and be free for a while.

1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:14.320
<v Speaker 18>You would think. But I want I wanted to run

1:28:14.400 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 18>this by you real quick because I've been trying to

1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:19.479
<v Speaker 18>get the world to know this for five years. No

1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:21.479
<v Speaker 18>one wants to talk about it. I've tried the governor

1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:24.360
<v Speaker 18>short of the president. I've tried d H d OJ,

1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:29.280
<v Speaker 18>Homeland Security Central Office, with the Ohio prison system, the governor,

1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:32.400
<v Speaker 18>all representatives. I've tried to get this message out. I've

1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:34.559
<v Speaker 18>tried news stations. No one wants to get it out.

1:28:35.520 --> 1:28:38.160
<v Speaker 18>With the gentleman that was murdered down here in Cincinnati

1:28:38.160 --> 1:28:39.160
<v Speaker 18>who owned the gym.

1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:44.840
<v Speaker 18>That situation as well as there was an officer in

1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:49.160
<v Speaker 18>Ross Correctional Center last year who was murdered on Christmas Day.

1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:52.840
<v Speaker 18>What no one wants to tell people is that the

1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:56.960
<v Speaker 18>Ohio prison system right now is so flooded with a

1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:58.280
<v Speaker 18>drug called tone.

1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>What's the I'm sorry, what was It's called tone?

1:29:03.360 --> 1:29:05.559
<v Speaker 18>They call it tune like cartoons.

1:29:05.000 --> 1:29:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, because these guys.

1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:11.040
<v Speaker 18>Act like cartoons. They hallucinate. They My husband is currently

1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.679
<v Speaker 18>in prison right now. He's been in prison for eleven years.

1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:16.639
<v Speaker 18>He's been in Warren, Lucas, Phille Rock right now, he's

1:29:16.640 --> 1:29:19.920
<v Speaker 18>currently in Mansfield. Every single prison he's been in, and

1:29:20.040 --> 1:29:23.160
<v Speaker 18>all the people that I've talked to, investigators, Warden's people

1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:26.080
<v Speaker 18>in Central Office, all of them will tell you ninety

1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.519
<v Speaker 18>five percent of the Ohio prison population right now.

1:29:28.400 --> 1:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Is addicted to this drug. You know what.

1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:32.519
<v Speaker 18>They will also tell you what they've told me. There's

1:29:32.560 --> 1:29:35.000
<v Speaker 18>nothing they can do about it, except for they just

1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:38.439
<v Speaker 18>spent sixty thousand dollars of our taxpayer dollars to put

1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:43.280
<v Speaker 18>sixteen leather couches in my husband's unit five sixty five

1:29:43.360 --> 1:29:46.680
<v Speaker 18>inch screen TVs out of our taxpayer dollars. But they

1:29:46.720 --> 1:29:50.080
<v Speaker 18>won't take our taxpayer dollars and put body scans in

1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:50.639
<v Speaker 18>these prisons.

1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean you, but I think you probably would

1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>know better than anyone that Department of Rehabilitations and Corrections

1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>is screwed up in so many different ways. But let

1:30:03.760 --> 1:30:06.519
<v Speaker 1>me say this too, and I don't need details, I

1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want them. I would just like to commend you

1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>for doing what you're doing. Are you familiar with the

1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:16.639
<v Speaker 1>concept of re entry. I'm sure you are, absolutely Yeah,

1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:20.639
<v Speaker 1>And your exhibit a as to how it works and how

1:30:20.680 --> 1:30:23.639
<v Speaker 1>it can help people have to have that coming out

1:30:23.640 --> 1:30:25.559
<v Speaker 1>of prison. I mean the way it used to be.

1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>They walk out of the prison and boom, that's it.

1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:33.559
<v Speaker 1>The concept of re entry is usually about one hundred

1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:35.599
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight days. You have one hundred eighty aays half

1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a year left on your sentence. Yeah, you start lining

1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>up services for them, try to find them a job.

1:30:41.120 --> 1:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I feel very very strongly about that, and

1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to commend you well.

1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:47.880
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 18>And one of the major problems with the re entry

1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:53.800
<v Speaker 18>programs is is that most of the halfway houses that

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<v Speaker 18>they have, yeah, are in are in.

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<v Speaker 13>Drug infested areas.

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<v Speaker 18>And I've been to a halfway house when I first

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<v Speaker 18>got out of prison. The first time they sit me

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<v Speaker 18>on a pilot program to the Tavern House down on

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<v Speaker 18>Queen City. We were able to get drugs in their

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<v Speaker 18>cigarettes in there, We were able to sneak.

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<v Speaker 13>Off, we were able to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 18>The people that actually run the places, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 18>just gonna be honest, a lot of them. The woman

1:31:18.520 --> 1:31:22.040
<v Speaker 18>that ran ours her husband was a drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you what. And it's tough out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, I commend you. I got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>calls here, Tony, I gotta get going, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>run this.

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<v Speaker 18>By you real quick because it's a person and I

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<v Speaker 18>know the world's listening, and I need.

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<v Speaker 4>The world to know.

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<v Speaker 18>Sure, a lot of these guys that are coming home,

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<v Speaker 18>that are committing these murders have been addicted to this

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<v Speaker 18>drug called tone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna look that up.

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<v Speaker 12>Please do.

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<v Speaker 18>It's all over YouTube. You can see how they act

1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:49.880
<v Speaker 18>and what they do they don't understand. Like the guy downtown,

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<v Speaker 18>it would have been a better chance if they do

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<v Speaker 18>something with the drug epidemic in prison, that that man

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<v Speaker 18>might not have got murdered. He was addicted to drugs

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<v Speaker 18>when he got released, just like Elwood Jones. Even though

1:31:59.320 --> 1:32:01.960
<v Speaker 18>he was on death he had access to tomb and

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<v Speaker 18>ninety five percent the chance that he was addicted to it,

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<v Speaker 18>and he's been released out here to our society.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to check into it. I've not never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but I want to learn about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But thank you for the appreciate Mike.

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<v Speaker 18>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a good day, you too, Yeah, you know what.

1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>That one went a little longer. But again, I spent

1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty years, Thank god, I'm retired, uh doing

1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>criminal defense work, which is hard, hard, hard if you

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<v Speaker 1>take the job seriously. And there are so few success

1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>stories in the criminal justice system that I think you

1:32:36.479 --> 1:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>got to highlight them when you get them. Anyway, who's

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting the longest?

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<v Speaker 4>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>How's about wreck in Dallas?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? Rick? You doing? I was going to tell what

1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that lady was saying. I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard there's a new drug that's more a thousand

1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>times more powerful than federal What is it about?

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<v Speaker 3>I have as only that I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 3>name of it is.

1:33:00.920 --> 1:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that I heard something about it. I

1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't look into it, though. Jeez, that's all we need.

1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:09.240
<v Speaker 3>It's a thousand times of pomps and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did you ever meet uh, you know, trouble since

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<v Speaker 2>thirty police chiefs, they had it. You guys haven't had

1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>a decent chiefs of Stanley Shrotale.

1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:19.959
<v Speaker 3>Did you ever meet that tele Shutel?

1:33:20.080 --> 1:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>No, he was way before my time, but I think

1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we've had some good ones too. Tom Striker comes to mind,

1:33:26.960 --> 1:33:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Larry Well and boy he was a tough chief. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was talking to Ken Kober, they could do

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<v Speaker 1>that because they had civil service protection. Since two thousand

1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>with Issue five, they don't have that anymore, so they

1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of like moved around the chessboard by the politicians

1:33:43.680 --> 1:33:44.519
<v Speaker 1>and that ain't right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Showtel was is such a man across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, you know, you know he made the cover

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<v Speaker 2>of like Look magazine or something.

1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I do know that. I think it was life. I've

1:33:56.960 --> 1:34:00.719
<v Speaker 1>seen it before. Uh yeah, he was very very very

1:34:00.840 --> 1:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>well respected. But hey, I got I got to get

1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple more calls in.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Rick, Okay, you hear about that. There's another arish

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<v Speaker 2>between whether there's a skirmish developed between Cambodia and Thailand.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that is insanity.

1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>What did you say developed between them? I'm sorry? Can

1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you can you.

1:34:19.880 --> 1:34:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Tell me that the war start between Cambodia?

1:34:23.120 --> 1:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:34:25.040 --> 1:34:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean what in the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>You got me? Uh And my brother lived in Thailand

1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>for I think about five or six years. He was

1:34:32.080 --> 1:34:35.360
<v Speaker 1>working over there, and apparently they don't They just don't

1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:39.599
<v Speaker 1>get along over there. The Vietnamese uh are they don't

1:34:39.720 --> 1:34:42.519
<v Speaker 1>like Thailand. So I don't know what they got going

1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:44.839
<v Speaker 1>on over there. It used to be a very strong

1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>uh royalty situation, but I don't know that that's the

1:34:48.880 --> 1:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>case anymore. But I appreciate you bringing it up. Okay,

1:34:54.120 --> 1:34:57.599
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah, I did hear about that, And boy,

1:34:57.720 --> 1:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to over and visit my brother

1:34:59.240 --> 1:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>oom in Thailand. That flight was brutal. But parts of

1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the country are beautiful, other parts not so much. I

1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think they have any zoning because you could have

1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a luxury hotel and a corrugated metal shack next to it.

1:35:14.439 --> 1:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But well, i'll tell you what, it's big and there

1:35:16.840 --> 1:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>are a ton of people. Hey, let's talk to Louise

1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>in Marino. Hey, Louise, Hi, Mike, I'll make this quick.

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<v Speaker 12>I know you run short of time, and I'm reverting

1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:29.120
<v Speaker 12>back to the original topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay soon, Tim Wallas, Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Because I don't know about you, Mike, but I never

1:35:34.000 --> 1:35:37.480
<v Speaker 12>even heard of him till that bird brand Kamela selected

1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:40.760
<v Speaker 12>him as VP, and I'm wondering, what't you think with

1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:44.240
<v Speaker 12>that process that they would have been vetting and this

1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:48.479
<v Speaker 12>whole big scandal should have arose. And the question is

1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:51.800
<v Speaker 12>did Caamela know or not? I know she's not a genius.

1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:54.559
<v Speaker 12>I know she doesn't vet very well because she should

1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:58.360
<v Speaker 12>have betted that scumble husband of hers, which evidently she didn't,

1:35:58.439 --> 1:36:02.200
<v Speaker 12>or who would why would she? But the question is

1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:06.960
<v Speaker 12>did how much did Kamela know about the scandal associated

1:36:07.360 --> 1:36:11.000
<v Speaker 12>with that governor? And then she goes on to say

1:36:11.080 --> 1:36:13.799
<v Speaker 12>why she didn't pick these other ones? Can you imagine

1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:17.599
<v Speaker 12>Micah for Republicans, candidate said, I didn't pick so and

1:36:17.640 --> 1:36:19.880
<v Speaker 12>so he was Jewish. I didn't pick so and so

1:36:19.960 --> 1:36:20.559
<v Speaker 12>he was gay.

1:36:20.800 --> 1:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable. And you know what, people think I'm crazy, but

1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:27.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll admit it. I bought her book and all that

1:36:27.640 --> 1:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff comes out in the book. I mean, I hate

1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>to give her any money, but I figured i'd read

1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it so you all don't have to. I have asked

1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the question that you asked from day one. You know,

1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>when you're want to be vice president of the United States,

1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the presidential candidate is supposed to do a thorough, thorough,

1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:52.599
<v Speaker 1>thorough vetting, and that obvious, well, I want to say

1:36:52.640 --> 1:36:55.519
<v Speaker 1>it obviously didn't happen. Maybe it did and she just

1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't care. That's how stupid she is. You remember when

1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>George W. Or not George W. George H. W. Bush

1:37:03.800 --> 1:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>picked dan Quail. Apparently he and I liked that, I

1:37:07.400 --> 1:37:10.280
<v Speaker 1>did any problem with him, But apparently he wasn't vetted

1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:14.240
<v Speaker 1>very strongly either. That is that shows that she's got

1:37:14.240 --> 1:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a messed up campaign where she's messed up in the

1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:20.439
<v Speaker 1>mind because how could they not have known about the

1:37:20.520 --> 1:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>time bomb in Minnesota?

1:37:23.000 --> 1:37:23.160
<v Speaker 9>Ry?

1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:25.599
<v Speaker 12>Why would they picked up the food? No one ever

1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:26.280
<v Speaker 12>heard of them?

1:37:26.479 --> 1:37:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I know, I did. You know I didn't.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, she's not the brightest thing around. And you know

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<v Speaker 12>the funniest thing, Mike, I'll cut, I'll make this.

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<v Speaker 7>Short, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 12>I was watching something and she's on there giving dating advice.

1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:39.160
<v Speaker 17>I know that.

1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:42.760
<v Speaker 12>And the one thing she didn't say is make sure

1:37:42.800 --> 1:37:46.519
<v Speaker 12>you sleep with the married man to help your career started.

1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's a lot of talk about that. I

1:37:49.720 --> 1:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>saw that. I think it came out yesterday or the

1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>day before. It was hilarious and guess what, it didn't

1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>make any sense, which is not surprising, but it just

1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't coherent. But yeah, a dating advisor, marriage counselor Kamala Harris,

1:38:04.600 --> 1:38:07.240
<v Speaker 1>who would have thought, Micha.

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<v Speaker 12>I'll let you go, Happy New Year, stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, Louise, I appreciate it. Yeah, you know,

1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that is one of the big questions I've had since

1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Jump when all this stuff was popping about Minnesota. I mean,

1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you think about it. People had to know about that, uh,

1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you usually hire a law firm or

1:38:27.240 --> 1:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>respected law firm, a firm that maybe has done this

1:38:30.680 --> 1:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>vetting before, and they just didn't. Apparently they didn't get

1:38:36.080 --> 1:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a good one, good enough, because that's something that the

1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>candidate should have known.

1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:43.040
<v Speaker 4>It just is.

1:38:43.600 --> 1:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And she infers in the book. She doesn't come out

1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and say it. The situation with her VP pick I

1:38:52.040 --> 1:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of think she wanted the dude from Pennsylvania, Shapiro.

1:38:57.680 --> 1:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But and what she said I wish I could remember verbatim.

1:39:01.800 --> 1:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like, well that might create a

1:39:04.840 --> 1:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>political problem, which I read as hey, man, I can't

1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>take him. He's Jewish, and you know, I got all

1:39:12.200 --> 1:39:15.240
<v Speaker 1>these anti semites in my party. I don't want to

1:39:15.280 --> 1:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>hank them off. And boy, if that's the case, that's sad.

1:39:19.200 --> 1:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's really sad. And you know she's still walking around

1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>appearing on shows, thinking that she's going to be a

1:39:25.840 --> 1:39:29.720
<v Speaker 1>viable candidate in twenty twenty eight. I almost hope she

1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>runs again. Jack see she'll get killed. But anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just my two cents. Hey, we are out of time,

1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>but i just want to let you know again that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in for Sloaney Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday of

1:39:41.360 --> 1:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>next week. So I'm looking forward to that. Mike Allen

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