Speaker 1: Day, there's Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday
Speaker 1: Midday on a kind of a yucky but halfway warm
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Boy, they're getting hit on both coasts with
Speaker 1: the weather. So we escape that at least hope you
Speaker 1: all had a good Christmas. I did. I am happy
Speaker 1: to say that God blessed me with a grandchild. A
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Got a little granddaughter and it
Speaker 1: was fun to be with her sometime part of the
Speaker 1: whole Christmas thing. So I think Christmas is going to
Speaker 1: be fun again. I've kind of got a thing that
Speaker 1: Christmas is fun when you're a kid. Obviously, it's fun
Speaker 1: when you have kids, and then it becomes fun again
Speaker 1: when you have grandkids. So I'm in for some good stuff.
Speaker 1: I think, speaking about good stuff, some not so good stuff.
Speaker 1: In Minnesota, I'll tell you the hits just keep oncommon
Speaker 1: with that place. Some of it, although it's obviously very serious,
Speaker 1: is actually comical, and I've got a couple of them
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: let you know first. At ten o'clock, Janis Heisel of
Speaker 1: the Epoch Times. She is on this story, I believe,
Speaker 1: and others too, more than any other national journalists so
Speaker 1: far she's got. She did a twenty page article, very comprehensive,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking to Janis at ten and
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock we're going to talk to FOP President
Speaker 1: Ken Kober about what's going on with CPD, what we
Speaker 1: can look for. And I want to ask him too
Speaker 1: what the status is for the witch hunt. And it
Speaker 1: is a witch hunt of Chief Fiji. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: to him at eleven o'clock. In between those times seven
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one
Speaker 1: are the numbers. If you want to be a part, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's lead it off here. Article in Fox News Minnesota
Speaker 1: Senate candidate and by the way, this Senate candidate also
Speaker 1: happens to be the lieutenant governor of the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Minnesota Senate candidate wears Hajib in visit to Somali market
Speaker 1: as fraud scandal unfolds. Minnesota Lieutenant governor and US Senate
Speaker 1: candidate Peggy Flanagan was seen on Somali TV station. I
Speaker 1: guess we have those here now. Well, isn't that great?
Speaker 1: Wearing Ah Hajib at a mall as widespread fraud. The
Speaker 1: scandal implicating some Somalis plagues the state. Now they wrote,
Speaker 1: some Somalis. I've seen figures of the people that either
Speaker 1: have pled or are charged or who are suspects. About
Speaker 1: ninety percent Somali.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The hajib is kind of that scarf looking thing that
Speaker 1: sometimes Muslim women wear. Wearing a hajib is it's typically
Speaker 1: a sign of obedience to God. Quote and worn to
Speaker 1: show modesty. Flan again, this Lieutenant governor. She is a Catholic.
Speaker 1: She said that publicly and on her campaign website is
Speaker 1: quote her view on immigration is grounded in her Catholic faith.
Speaker 1: Really okay, her far left views and it's just not
Speaker 1: this incident, it's something else. Also prompted her to wear
Speaker 1: a are you ready this will be a big surprise
Speaker 1: to you, protect protect trans kids shirt with a knife
Speaker 1: on it. I don't know what that means. In August,
Speaker 1: she did that in a viral video, telling parents and
Speaker 1: I'm going to quote here, when our children tell us
Speaker 1: who they are, it's our job as grown ups to
Speaker 1: listen and believe them. Close quote so translated what she's saying,
Speaker 1: what you mom and dad want for your child, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, the child will make the decision. You got
Speaker 1: to be twenty one to buy beer, you know. And
Speaker 1: they want these libs want the government to make the
Speaker 1: decision on these trans things, not the parents. It's just
Speaker 1: upside down. Well Walsh got involved in it too. He's
Speaker 1: quoted as saying, the programs are set up to move
Speaker 1: the money to people. The programs are set up to
Speaker 1: improve people's lives, and in many cases, the criminals find loopholes.
Speaker 1: Really you just find an add out. But anyway, he
Speaker 1: set up a new anti fraud task force. A little
Speaker 1: laid on that governor. The message here in Minnesota, this
Speaker 1: is from the governor again, and this is laughable. The
Speaker 1: message here in Minnesota is if you commit a crime,
Speaker 1: if you commit fraud against public dollars, you are going
Speaker 1: to go to prison. Close quote. You know, once again
Speaker 1: a little late on the draw there, Governor. Where were
Speaker 1: you in the last three or four years when apparently
Speaker 1: a lot of people knew about this but they just
Speaker 1: weren't coming forward. I tell you what, if that guy
Speaker 1: doesn't get indicted, I think something's wrong. There are criminal
Speaker 1: statutes and I'm not gonna say I know Minnesota law,
Speaker 1: but there are criminal statutes that are based on negligence,
Speaker 1: and some of them gross negligence. And this is negligence
Speaker 1: of the highest sort. While you and I pay our
Speaker 1: tax dollars, and make no mistake about it, this stuff
Speaker 1: is our money because at the root of it is
Speaker 1: almost all of it is federal money. And guess who
Speaker 1: pays into that. That's you and I. It's just I
Speaker 1: tell you what. For talk show host, it doesn't get
Speaker 1: any better, and this one's it's not going to go
Speaker 1: away soon. Donald Trump weighed in on this, as only
Speaker 1: he can quote. I guess this was on truth social
Speaker 1: quote from Trump. Send them back to where they came from.
Speaker 1: It's over. I'll tell you what. Harsh words, hard words,
Speaker 1: but by God, in my opinion, accurate words. You know what,
Speaker 1: we don't have to like everybody. We don't. You got
Speaker 1: a group of people who, so far, it looks like
Speaker 1: about or ninety percent responsible for what's going on. We
Speaker 1: don't have to like those people. We don't have to
Speaker 1: wear hajeeves. You know, we don't have to fear being
Speaker 1: called an islamophobe. I don't know. We're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to see where this is going, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be a manna from heaven for people like me along
Speaker 1: those lines. This one I keep saying, you won't believe it.
Speaker 1: I gotta stop doing that because once you see one thing,
Speaker 1: the next day, usually something else happens. Okay, The third
Speaker 1: ranking leader in the House of Representatives, who happens to
Speaker 1: hail from Minnesota, demanded answers from Governor Tim Watz after
Speaker 1: a YouTuber tried to confront employees of an alleged daycare
Speaker 1: center get Ready for This that had misspelled signage and
Speaker 1: no signs of activity outside, but reportedly received four million
Speaker 1: dollars in state funds. Got a brief audio of it,
Speaker 1: obviously not video. It just to kind of give you
Speaker 1: a feel for this. Could you play that, lamb? Please?
Speaker 1: Just wanted to put my son Joey.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Is this your daycare center? No, that's not what's helping.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to put a child in daycare. By
Speaker 1: all the daycare centers seem to be closed. No one's
Speaker 1: opening the doors.
Speaker 4: Your work here?
Speaker 1: Ohs yeah, what's helping?
Speaker 5: Where are the kids? Sends its license for seventy four
Speaker 5: children right here? State of Minnesota? Where are the kids?
Speaker 5: They got paid one point two six million dollars. In
Speaker 5: fisted Your twenty twenty five it says the have a
Speaker 5: capacity for seventy four children.
Speaker 1: When when where are the kids?
Speaker 6: Right here?
Speaker 5: State of Minnesota website. You work here and you don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was dead before. I don't know what was going
Speaker 1: to going on.
Speaker 5: Were there any kids when you worked here?
Speaker 1: He's dead, he's there with so many I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how many kids are there.
Speaker 1: I don't know your tax dollars at work, folks. This
Speaker 1: thing is just incredible. Just to kind of set the
Speaker 1: ground on this, I think you get it based upon
Speaker 1: what you hear. This guy, Nick Shirley, he's some YouTuber,
Speaker 1: not real sure what the definition of that is, but
Speaker 1: he's doing a good thing here, doing a public service.
Speaker 1: Shows up at this learning center, and if you look
Speaker 1: at the video of it, you can see it plain
Speaker 1: as day, A big old sign in front of the
Speaker 1: learning center that is spelled. They spell it Leering center.
Speaker 1: So the learning center is a leering L E A
Speaker 1: R I n G. It was spelled. It's an alleged
Speaker 1: daycare center. They got four million bucks. I mean, it
Speaker 1: just it keeps getting worse and worse, and the dollar
Speaker 1: amount keeps going up. Four million dollars of hard earned
Speaker 1: tax dollars. This is the Republican House majority whip in
Speaker 1: the believe Minnesota Senate or House. He says, four million
Speaker 1: bucks of hardered tax dollars going to an education center
Speaker 1: that can't even spell correctly. Care to explain this one,
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz. That's what this guy Tom Emmer, and he's
Speaker 1: kind of leading the charge on this thing. That's what
Speaker 1: he wrote on X. It keeps growing, it keeps growing,
Speaker 1: and we've not heard the last of this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's going to keep bu to be the gift that
Speaker 1: keeps on giving. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's just sad. I swear to God, all this stuff
Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota is not that big of a state.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really isn't. And nobody knew. I know
Speaker 1: people knew. I know the mainstream media knew about it
Speaker 1: based upon what I've read. Of course, the mainstream media
Speaker 1: didn't do anything about it because they were afraid of
Speaker 1: the R word. If they covered it, they would be racist.
Speaker 1: And these elected officials in Minnesota are so beholden to
Speaker 1: the Somali community, they just shrugged their shoulders and let
Speaker 1: it go. That is negligence of the worst kind, and
Speaker 1: possibly worse than that. Somebody in the upper echelon's not
Speaker 1: the lower stream guys of Minnesota government has to go
Speaker 1: to prison for this because it's just it's unprecedented, and
Speaker 1: it's a joke. It really is. It's the worst financial
Speaker 1: scandal in this country's history. Well, Jimmy Kimmel, that's a name.
Speaker 1: You probably thought you weren't going to hear the news
Speaker 1: too much anymore. He got his ears pinned back to him.
Speaker 1: Just recently he went to the UK. It just says UK.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it's London or somewhere in Great Britain.
Speaker 1: He is facing renewed backlash following his decision to criticize
Speaker 1: the United States during an address to the United Kingdom
Speaker 1: that aired on Christmas Day. Real Clear Politics co founder
Speaker 1: Tom Bevan dismissed Kimmel's remarks as contradictory and called like
Speaker 1: this and called the late night host insufferable, which, of
Speaker 1: course he is. Kimmel was elected to deliver Channel four
Speaker 1: his annual alternative Christmas Message, a long standing counterprogram speech
Speaker 1: that airs opposite the BBC's traditional Royal Christmas. So, you know,
Speaker 1: fly over to Great Britain, Okay, have a little fun
Speaker 1: over there, then go on national International UK television and
Speaker 1: criticize your country. You know, there used to be an
Speaker 1: unwritten rule for politicians and really anybody that if you
Speaker 1: went to another country, you didn't criticize your own country.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to do that, you did it at home.
Speaker 1: But of course, with today's breed of liberals, that's not
Speaker 1: the thing anymore. Anyway. During the speech, the late night
Speaker 1: hosts repeatedly took aim at President Trump, claiming that quote
Speaker 1: tyranny is booming over here close quote in the US,
Speaker 1: he booming over here in the US. He also apologized
Speaker 1: on behalf of us, our country, telling the audience, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this. You might not believe this one, telling
Speaker 1: the audience quote, this is the a hole Jimmy Kimmel quote.
Speaker 1: We are not bright, we're Americans. Wow, what a way
Speaker 1: to go. You know, I got an idea, you whatever,
Speaker 1: Why don't you stay over there? Why don't you stay
Speaker 1: over there? If we're not bright, why would you want
Speaker 1: to come back? You know, you're the one that's not
Speaker 1: too bright, Jimmy Kimmel. This guy is just you thought
Speaker 1: he would have his come up, but he didn't. And
Speaker 1: it's a shame, it really is. We are not bright,
Speaker 1: We're Americans. That's what he thinks about you and I.
Speaker 1: And he's still on the air anyway. The guy from
Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics and Real Clear Politics I've found to
Speaker 1: be pretty pretty much down the line, maybe lean a
Speaker 1: little bit left. He said. Kimmel's claims don't man, that's
Speaker 1: right about this. Listen to this is logic here. Bevan said,
Speaker 1: Kimmel's claims don't make sense given the host meaning Kimmel
Speaker 1: continued presence on television, calling him among the most insufferable
Speaker 1: trumpeters in America. There's a real contradiction there. If tyranny
Speaker 1: is booming, how can his show be doing so well?
Speaker 1: That's what mister Bevan asked. I don't know that it's
Speaker 1: doing so well. I haven't seen any ratings since he
Speaker 1: went back on the air. My sense is it's probably
Speaker 1: not doing too well. You know, whatever cable system I
Speaker 1: have at my house, one of the channels gets the
Speaker 1: old Johnny Carson shows, and you know what if I'm
Speaker 1: not doing anything and it's on, I'll watch it. What
Speaker 1: a difference between him and this new breed of late
Speaker 1: night talk show hosts. There's no comparison. Carson, if he
Speaker 1: ever did politics, he made sure that he did both sides.
Speaker 1: You know, think about it. For those of you in
Speaker 1: my age group, you don't know, and you really couldn't
Speaker 1: tell what Johnny Carson's politics were. And that's the way
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be. Then you got the buffoon
Speaker 1: David Letterman. I don't know if you've seen him lately.
Speaker 1: I think he thinks he's Santa Claus. He's always always
Speaker 1: sticking it to Trump, always criticizing his country. Don't know
Speaker 1: that he's doing it in someone else's country. But late
Speaker 1: night television used to be a big deal, used to
Speaker 1: be something that maybe you'd want to stay up to
Speaker 1: eleven thirty four. Not anymore. And that's just not me,
Speaker 1: that's the people speaking. Here's he says this. If again,
Speaker 1: this is Kimmel, No, I'm sorry, this is mister Bevan.
Speaker 1: If you know Tyranny is so If you know tyranny
Speaker 1: is so great in the US, why does Jimmy Kimmel
Speaker 1: get to go on the air every single night and
Speaker 1: bash the resident of the United States. That seems like
Speaker 1: a free America. Close quote, and he's absolutely right. There's
Speaker 1: a guy named Paul D. Thacker. The only thing I
Speaker 1: could find out about him, he's an investigative journalist and
Speaker 1: he wrote on X a couple of days ago, the
Speaker 1: British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to speak out against fascism
Speaker 1: and in favor of free speech. This is the same
Speaker 1: government that only recently arrested comedian Graham Lenihan. And that's
Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame there. Boy, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: the UK, in specifically Great Britain, free speeches is going
Speaker 1: out the damn window. I mean, it's like King George
Speaker 1: has come back. It's very very concerning. At any rate,
Speaker 1: let me just it's just a sentence. I want to
Speaker 1: read it again. The British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to
Speaker 1: speak out against fascism and in favor of free speech.
Speaker 1: This is this government that only recently arrested Graham Linehan.
Speaker 1: Everything is upside down in England. And the funny I
Speaker 1: love this the closing and the funniest joke is Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you thought he went away and
Speaker 1: stuck his head in the ground, you're wrong. But guess what,
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes a dimes worth of difference
Speaker 1: because nobody's watching that crap anymore. Late night television has
Speaker 1: just ruined itself. I think a guy that a woman,
Speaker 1: even whatever, who was funny, kind of a Johnny Carson type,
Speaker 1: who got a show like that and stayed out of
Speaker 1: politics or gave it to both sides. I bet you
Speaker 1: that could be pretty successful. But hey, that's just me. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we have to take a break for the news, but
Speaker 1: we'll be back. The phone numbers are seven four nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, won eight hundred. The big one Mike Allen
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday, Mike Allen Saturday Midday. You know, talking to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and I've been talking about it all week. I've been
Speaker 1: in for us Sloaning three or four days last week.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to, by the way, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be in for him all week this week, nine to noon.
Speaker 1: But it's the big topic among talk show hosts and
Speaker 1: really people that are concerned about what's going on and
Speaker 1: are interested in these things just for the heck of it.
Speaker 1: I googled most liberal state in the country and this
Speaker 1: thing came up from a group called World Population Review. So,
Speaker 1: being the responsible talk show hosts that I am, I
Speaker 1: looked into them. World Population Review is an independent data
Speaker 1: driven website providing accessible tools population statistics, demographics, blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It seems to be pretty straight up.
Speaker 1: But I don't know much about them, but at any rate,
Speaker 1: it might surprise you. I thought for sure, I thought
Speaker 1: for sure Minnesota would come up. It did, but only
Speaker 1: at eighteen. So according to this outfit, the most liberal
Speaker 1: state in the Union is Massachusetts. Doesn't surprise me too much.
Speaker 1: You got Minnesota at eighteen. Where do you think Ohio fell?
Speaker 1: They fell at about thirty eight. They're the thirty eighth
Speaker 1: most liberal state in the country according to this group,
Speaker 1: and that's about right. And the fiftieth and I'm going
Speaker 1: to start looking for apartments there. Tomorrow is Alabama. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of their take on what's going on. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask Janis about this. Janis Heisel, she
Speaker 1: will be on at ten o'clock and we've talked about
Speaker 1: this before with her. There's a saying out there it's
Speaker 1: called Minnesota nice. And you know, the description I think
Speaker 1: kind of gives the kind of tent that everybody's nice
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. I don't know that's the case. But they're
Speaker 1: open minded about things, I guess, and they're welcoming of
Speaker 1: things different. Okay, I'm not that way, but I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. But what I don't get is, and
Speaker 1: I'll ask her this too, what I don't get is
Speaker 1: how these citizens aren't howling. I mean, some of them are,
Speaker 1: but sure doesn't seem like many. I mean, you think
Speaker 1: about you know, what I'd like for somebody to do,
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be that hard given everything we have now,
Speaker 1: which you can do, as statistics is per person in
Speaker 1: the United States of America, per citizen. I should say
Speaker 1: what this whole mess so far in Minnesota has cost
Speaker 1: the average taxpayer. I don't know what it would be yet,
Speaker 1: but probably a better idea if you're going to do that,
Speaker 1: to do it, to do it after it's all settled.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that's not going to be for
Speaker 1: a long long time. Unfortunately, Moving right along here since
Speaker 1: apparently nobody wants to talk this morning, Ice and this
Speaker 1: is from Newsmax. I don't know if y'all look at
Speaker 1: Newsmax very much. You know, really, I don't, but when
Speaker 1: I because I just think Fox News predominates over everything.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good though. It HiT's some good stuff, good
Speaker 1: ip eds. Anyway, they published an article the day after
Speaker 1: Christmas yesterday Ice. This is a report from ICE. Seventy
Speaker 1: percent arrested, meaning illegal aliens had criminal ties seventy percent.
Speaker 1: Now that kind of flies in the face what the
Speaker 1: mainstream media and the lefties are saying with respect to
Speaker 1: who ICE is getting, because Donald Trump did say the
Speaker 1: first priority is getting the worst of the worst. However, Okay,
Speaker 1: when you're looking for the of the worst, if you
Speaker 1: come across someone who trespassed into our country, which you know,
Speaker 1: guess what Looney left, that is a crime. You are
Speaker 1: violating the law when you do that. So they picked
Speaker 1: them up too. It would be uh, it would be
Speaker 1: negligent if they didn't. But here's just a couple of
Speaker 1: paragraphs of what this Newsmax article. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff in here. It's by Charlie McCarthy. Roughly seventy
Speaker 1: percent of illegal migrants. I don't know why they call
Speaker 1: it that. I'm going to change it here, roughly seventy
Speaker 1: percent of illegal immigrants, because migrant to me has a
Speaker 1: connotation of legal arrested by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Speaker 1: ICE under the second Trump administration reportedly had been convicted
Speaker 1: or faced charges for criminal offenses. That's not just in
Speaker 1: the United States, it's also criminal charges in the states
Speaker 1: where these people came from. Goes on to say. New
Speaker 1: data provided to the Washington Examiner. Boy, that's another good
Speaker 1: paper shows Trump administration arrested about five hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: five thousand illegal immigrants between January twentieth, when he was
Speaker 1: sworn in, and December eleventh, just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And that is according to the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 1: You know, I was put out a thing saying that
Speaker 1: roughly seventy percent, like I said, which is, I guess
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixteen thousand had and I'm quoting from
Speaker 1: ICE had quote criminal convictions or pending criminal charges in
Speaker 1: the United States, underscoring President Donald Trump's promise to prioritize
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst in immigration enforcement. He is
Speaker 1: doing that. But what he's not doing, and ICE is
Speaker 1: not doing through the President is just letting someone go
Speaker 1: like Biden did. Well, he didn't even try to get him.
Speaker 1: They're still going to be held for what they did,
Speaker 1: and that's trespassed into our country. So you got a
Speaker 1: lot of things going on with that. This article goes
Speaker 1: on to say that ICE is going to get a
Speaker 1: whereas it one hundred and seventy billion dollars in additional
Speaker 1: funds in the fiscal year I believe twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: or twenty twenty seven, one hundred and seventy billion bucks.
Speaker 1: You know, you can hire a lot of ICE officers
Speaker 1: with that, which again shows the administration's dedication to responsibility
Speaker 1: and enforcing the border. Tom Homan was on the TV
Speaker 1: not too long ago, and he said he went up
Speaker 1: in a helicopter, flew around, didn't see anybody sneaking in,
Speaker 1: got on a four wheeler, drove around, didn't see anybody
Speaker 1: sneaking in. So it's working. Personally, I wish they were
Speaker 1: getting more than they are, but it sounds like things
Speaker 1: are happening. We got some calls here. Let me talk
Speaker 1: to Let's see, let me talk to Jesse. This one
Speaker 1: might be good. Hey Jesse, how you doing.
Speaker 7: Hi, Mike, This is Jesse from Indiana.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 7: I've listened to you. I've listened to you a few
Speaker 7: times this week, and you keep referring to what's happening
Speaker 7: in Minnesota as negligence.
Speaker 1: Now, it's at its easiest, it's negligence. At least, it's negligence.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm saying, Jesse. I probably didn't
Speaker 1: make that clear enough.
Speaker 7: Well, just I mean, I could be negligent all day long,
Speaker 7: and that million dollars is not going to follow my lap, right,
Speaker 7: this was this was a criminal action.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you know again, I don't think I was clear.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the elected officials. Uh, the elected officials
Speaker 1: who are supposed to be policing that this thing, unless
Speaker 1: some of them are cramming cash into their pockets, which
Speaker 1: is well, then it's Katie bar the door man. The
Speaker 1: federal statute is very hard on elected officials who take money.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about twenty thirty, forty years, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I meant by it. I should
Speaker 1: be a little more clear, though, I preceied you let
Speaker 1: me know. Thanks, Michael, Okay, thank you. Yeah, negligence is
Speaker 1: at the bottom, and there are criminal statutes based upon
Speaker 1: negligence in Ohio, it's purposely recklessly or purposely knowingly recklessly
Speaker 1: and negligently. And for the elected officials, if they're stealing
Speaker 1: money or there's something more serious than just gross not
Speaker 1: looking at things like they should, then I think the
Speaker 1: Crowbar Hotel would be a good place for them. And
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't heard anything about that so far,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Okay, let's see,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Jerry. He's all the way up in
Speaker 1: Mercer County. Hey, Jerry, how you doing.
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 8: You talked about fraud touring them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the that's the new coin phrase that
Speaker 1: they've coined.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: On Laura Ingram Show, they had emails from Smalli's in
Speaker 8: Minnesota emailing to some only men in Philadelphia and on
Speaker 8: the email said that they should come here. They got
Speaker 8: programs here, you can make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Yep, I heard that too. I'll tell you what it's.
Speaker 8: They took fourteen and a half million dollars, bought bitcoins
Speaker 8: with it, and fled the country.
Speaker 1: Bitcoins great. Yeah, And you know what, as I said before, Jerry,
Speaker 1: I truly believe this is a tip of the iceberg
Speaker 1: on this thing. It really is.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I've had collars the last three weeks from Columbus saying,
Speaker 1: of course Columbus has a pretty large uh Somali population.
Speaker 1: I don't think nothing like Minnesota. But the word is
Speaker 1: up there, something's coming up there. I haven't heard anything personally,
Speaker 1: but just stand by.
Speaker 8: I didn't hear anything about the Eboch time. Yes, you know,
Speaker 8: I'll ask.
Speaker 1: Her about it. Uh, well, I'll tell you what she
Speaker 1: is on. And she's coming up right next. She's on
Speaker 1: this like White on rice. I mean, again, very very
Speaker 1: in depth reporting. But this thing's going to continue unfold
Speaker 1: throughout the year and probably beyond.
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks Jerry, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, at a minimum, at a minimum minimum,
Speaker 1: it's negligence with respect to the elected officials. Uh, if
Speaker 1: they're taking money or favors or something like that, that's
Speaker 1: a whole nother ballgame. Hey, let's talk to ye in Xenia. Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Jeff, Hey.
Speaker 3: Good morning, my great show. That just one.
Speaker 9: It also too is because I sent actually a email
Speaker 9: to Janis about because when I used to live up
Speaker 9: in Maine, they had a large, small population up there,
Speaker 9: and I said, you ought to really look into it
Speaker 9: up there, because I have no doubt that, you know,
Speaker 9: the information travels very quickly when there's easy money on tap,
Speaker 9: and main Main's about as accurate as UH Minnesota is.
Speaker 9: So I wouldn't be surprised if they got some funny
Speaker 9: business going on up there. But I was just wondering,
Speaker 9: you know, with all this stuff in the news and
Speaker 9: supposedly how big this basically fraud is going to get.
Speaker 9: I am sure that it's a probable USA wide. I
Speaker 9: mean it's Minnesota is.
Speaker 10: A prime example, but you know, it's things like that.
Speaker 10: When people find out that opportunities are there, I think
Speaker 10: they take advantage of them.
Speaker 1: No question, no questions. And that speaks to the whole
Speaker 1: uh tourism thing, you know what they're saying, it's a
Speaker 1: new tourism thing to get people to come. Hey, everything's easier,
Speaker 1: you can steal money, come on to Minnesota. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what you.
Speaker 9: Got exactly, And I think there's plenty of people out
Speaker 9: there that take advantage of it. And you know, these
Speaker 9: politicians when they get these donations, which I really call
Speaker 9: bribery for the most part, that it's it's it's there,
Speaker 9: and they will look the other way because I'm sure
Speaker 9: nowadays they have so many either back doors, offshore locations
Speaker 9: or the donations however they do it anonymously or everything
Speaker 9: else because you know, and it's it's really going to
Speaker 9: be a sad state of affairs because the money's gone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not coming back.
Speaker 10: And the politicians can say, well, I didn't know, or
Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to give the money back that
Speaker 10: was donated to women. You took it in the first place,
Speaker 10: you know, that was that was the first crime.
Speaker 9: But the thing is, you know, it's just like Hillary
Speaker 9: when she had all the money from the Clinton Foundation
Speaker 9: and destroying the hard drives things like that.
Speaker 3: Whatever happened. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Now that's the biggest uh hornet's nest of corruption. I
Speaker 1: think there is the Clinton Foundation, but there are some
Speaker 1: There are some politicians if they take money from a
Speaker 1: group and truly don't know that this group is not
Speaker 1: a group they should be taking money from. I've seen
Speaker 1: it to where they have either given it back, well,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give it back because they don't want to
Speaker 1: further the purpose of the group, but given it to charities.
Speaker 1: That happens. But not all that frequently.
Speaker 9: That's true, but that you know, I think the it's
Speaker 9: it's usually okay, some of these politicians that get a
Speaker 9: couple of million dollars, okay, so they've done it, you know,
Speaker 9: twenty thirty forty thousand dollars to a charity. You know,
Speaker 9: that is you know, it doesn't even come close in
Speaker 9: comparison of how much money they pretty much got, you know,
Speaker 9: by illicit means or otherwise. And they seem to be
Speaker 9: able to hide it extremely well because just like all
Speaker 9: these groups that are supported by Soros, you know, no man, yeah,
Speaker 9: easily found out. But you know how many times in
Speaker 9: the newspaper or on the news, even in Fox that
Speaker 9: you read that, okay, this politician got x amount from
Speaker 9: the Soros group, you know, and it's it's, it's all.
Speaker 10: They got it very well covered up a lot, and
Speaker 10: I think I think there is so much widespread corruption
Speaker 10: I think in a lot of areas throughout the United
Speaker 10: States that you know, we could reduce our deficit traumatic
Speaker 10: dramatically if we would just go after some of these
Speaker 10: people and make it and make examples of them, because
Speaker 10: you know that if any Republican gets ever caught they're
Speaker 10: purp walked in front of the cameras.
Speaker 1: They're purp.
Speaker 10: They know that they're going to be breaking into their house,
Speaker 10: or they're there on the news. CNN's right there on
Speaker 10: the spot. But all these other politicians, when you have
Speaker 10: democratic leanings, just nothing ever really happens that I've seen.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Jeff. You've obviously looked at
Speaker 1: this problem and or paying attention to it. Do you,
Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts think that somewhere in this
Speaker 1: whole damn thing, there's some politician elected officials somewhere shoving
Speaker 1: cash in his pocket. Do you believe that?
Speaker 3: Obviously?
Speaker 9: I mean, well, it's like what I would love to see.
Speaker 10: You know, they keep bringing up Pelosi's name and the
Speaker 10: four hundred million cheese work, you know, of earning two
Speaker 10: hundred thousand a year, and she leaves forty years later
Speaker 10: a four hundred million in her pocket. You know, as
Speaker 10: well as many other politicians on both sides have done this.
Speaker 10: You know, they were supposed to pass the law that
Speaker 10: that was going to be taken care of, and they
Speaker 10: never really did. It's still going on. You know, why
Speaker 10: can't you know they come to a consensus because Obviously
Speaker 10: we're the ones that elect these people. Why can't they
Speaker 10: come to a consensus, say, you know what, this is
Speaker 10: illegal and if you get caught doing it, there's gonna
Speaker 10: be serious ramifications because they need to do something.
Speaker 1: That's what it should be. Hey, I'm bumping up against
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 3: But hey, thanks a lot, Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, thank you, great call. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I kind of thought maybe they
Speaker 1: weren't shoving the dough in their pocket, but maybe they are. Hey,
Speaker 1: we do have to take a break for the news,
Speaker 1: but when we get back, we are going to talk
Speaker 1: to James about the whole rotten hornes. It's nest in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: But I did want to say, if you are holding
Speaker 1: up to get on the air, I got an open
Speaker 1: line deal ten thirty to eleven and eleven thirty to twelve,
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind. Mike Allen Saturday midday, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what abeat goes on in Minnesota. With
Speaker 1: this fraud that they've uncovered out there. It seems to
Speaker 1: me like the thought is there at least at nine
Speaker 1: billion dollars and probably headed for quite a bit more.
Speaker 1: Janis Heisel of The Epoch Times has been on this
Speaker 1: story like white on Rice in my opinion and in
Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich's opinion as well. She is the national reporter
Speaker 1: that's covering this thing the most thoroughly, and she filed
Speaker 1: three stories this week. One a very very comprehensive story.
Speaker 1: If you're interested, and you haven't you haven't read any
Speaker 1: of her stuff yet. This one is how Minnesota Minnesota nice,
Speaker 1: and Janis is gonna explain that how Minnesota nice progressive
Speaker 1: policy's paved the way for Somali fraud. Janie, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 11: Well, thank you, well, An, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Up are very Christmas I mean, Merry Christmas to you too.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This story goes twenty three pages,
Speaker 1: and it is I mean, it's got everything in it.
Speaker 1: And as I said, I think the plot just thickens,
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 11: Oh, it's hard to even know where to start in
Speaker 11: some ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, what's the new? What did you find
Speaker 1: out since we last talked. I know, the fraud is
Speaker 1: just it just keeps going up and up and up.
Speaker 1: But just kind of some of the major points that
Speaker 1: you have discovered recently.
Speaker 11: Well, you know, It's almost like one of those soap
Speaker 11: operas that people were addicted to back in the day
Speaker 11: when we last left our you know, our bad guy.
Speaker 11: Here's what was going on. And the latest thing that
Speaker 11: happened was just a couple of days ago, Kelly Loffler,
Speaker 11: who is the head of the Small Business Administration, wrote
Speaker 11: a letter to Tim Wallash telling him that she's cutting
Speaker 11: off five point five million dollars. Now, that sounds like
Speaker 11: a drop in the bucket, and when you compare it
Speaker 11: to nine billion dollars, but it is, you know, a
Speaker 11: chunk of money that you know, she's saying, Look, you're
Speaker 11: not going to get this money because Minnesota cannot be
Speaker 11: trusted to safeguard these taxpayer dollars. So that's the start,
Speaker 11: and there's also quite a few efforts to try to
Speaker 11: claw back some of the money from the people who
Speaker 11: have already been convicted.
Speaker 1: But Mike, as you know as a.
Speaker 11: Former prosecutor, the forfeiture process is not a flick the
Speaker 11: switch and you've got the money.
Speaker 4: It takes a while.
Speaker 1: It takes a while if it happens at all, and
Speaker 1: if people in Minnesota are counting on restitution to make
Speaker 1: the taxpayers hole I'm telling you right now, it ain't
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and it's not even gonna come close. In
Speaker 1: your story that I talked about in the intro Minnesota
Speaker 1: Nice Progressive Policies at page four, I just want to
Speaker 1: read one paragraph here because it's just incredible. You talk
Speaker 1: to a guy named Ed, just a normal citizen, I guess,
Speaker 1: and he said, this is Ed. There's a willingness to
Speaker 1: help everybody without any consequences. And then you write, this
Speaker 1: attitude made the state a beacon for progressives. It also
Speaker 1: manifested in generous welfare benefits. Here it is in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, those programs that you've described previously doled out
Speaker 1: forty six thousand dollars for each person in poverty in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which is the nation's second highest amount, behind only Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: When I saw that forty six thousand buck figure, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, ibou lost it, and that's forty six thousand
Speaker 1: probably most of our money, national money from all over
Speaker 1: the United States. I mean, that's pretty incredible, wouldn't you think.
Speaker 12: Jeez?
Speaker 11: I tell you, just anytime the dollar amounts start to
Speaker 11: come out about this whole scandal, it's just eye popping
Speaker 11: another one that is a lot of people are not
Speaker 11: really pointing out or reporting on that. I do mention
Speaker 11: in that story is that Minnesota actually had an eighteen
Speaker 11: billion dollar budget surplus. Every bit of that is gone
Speaker 11: and then some and in just one two year period,
Speaker 11: in fact, they are now looking at being in the
Speaker 11: hole by three billion dollars. And I'm telling you, the
Speaker 11: people I've spoken to who are ordinary taxpayers are hot
Speaker 11: about that, and they are feeling it because they are
Speaker 11: seeing their property taxes go up because of the fact
Speaker 11: that number one inflation over the last several years prior
Speaker 11: to the current administration, there are a lot of policies
Speaker 11: put in place that inflation did go up and the
Speaker 11: health values went up, and therefore the taxes went up.
Speaker 11: Plus new taxes are being piled on top of citizens
Speaker 11: to pay for these mandates coming from the state government.
Speaker 11: And I'm telling you, people just feel the squeeze there.
Speaker 11: It's it's really people are are not are very unhappy.
Speaker 11: I will say the ones that I've spoken to.
Speaker 1: Are yeah, sures. And that's a theme that runs through
Speaker 1: this story. You know, if you would, for my listeners,
Speaker 1: explain what you mean by Minnesota nice and it's you
Speaker 1: use that term in uh a lot of your stories
Speaker 1: and it makes perfect sense. Will you just explain what
Speaker 1: that is? And I guess along with that the attitude
Speaker 1: that they have some of them out there.
Speaker 11: Well, the term Minnesota and nice. I was actually told
Speaker 11: it originated from a type of granite found there because
Speaker 11: it's felled g N E I S S and that's
Speaker 11: pronounced nice. But the kind of you know, manifesting in
Speaker 11: a way of life, it's almost like the people came
Speaker 11: from Norway. A lot of people there, and there's this
Speaker 11: attitude where you're kind of you're semi warm, but semi frosty.
Speaker 11: At the same time they're saying is that a Minnesotan
Speaker 11: will give you directions to anywhere except to his own
Speaker 11: front door. So their hospitality is kind of more on
Speaker 11: the surface. And as that guy ed said so succinctly,
Speaker 11: when people are wanting to give and say, oh, I'm
Speaker 11: trying to help impoverish people or hungry children or autistic children,
Speaker 11: there is a cultural tendency to just not ask that
Speaker 11: very many questions about that. There's also not much of
Speaker 11: a question, oh I need help. So when you don't
Speaker 11: ask questions of either the givers or the receivers within
Speaker 11: a government system, and you don't have checks and balances
Speaker 11: in place, that's a recipe for trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about it. And that's a theme
Speaker 1: that kind of runs through your story. At page seven,
Speaker 1: you talk about the former assistant US Attorney I think
Speaker 1: it's his name is Joe Thompson who worked on some
Speaker 1: of the cases. Oh no, Joe Tireb. I guess outlined
Speaker 1: fraud fueling factors in this case. And then you know,
Speaker 1: here's the weenie as they say, this is a quote
Speaker 1: from the former US attorney. Yeah, folks, coming from a
Speaker 1: society with high levels of corruption. Of course he's talking
Speaker 1: about Somollians. You mix that with a government handout system
Speaker 1: that has almost no checks and balances, and that's just
Speaker 1: a perfect storm for high levels of corruption. Would you
Speaker 1: agree with me that in many ways, that's pretty much
Speaker 1: the problem there in a nutshell.
Speaker 11: Well, I quoted him for a reason. You know, the
Speaker 11: man did prosecute a lot of these cases. And you know, again,
Speaker 11: part of the whole Minnesota Knighte and progressive culture is
Speaker 11: that you know, include lusiveness, that whole inclusive thing, and
Speaker 11: you don't want to say anything bad about people from
Speaker 11: other countries or ethnic groups, because you know, it could
Speaker 11: be viewed as racism. And so when people in the
Speaker 11: inside of the system started to see, hey, this isn't right.
Speaker 11: How is it that this place claims to be feeding
Speaker 11: you know, three thousand kids in one day and they
Speaker 11: just started operating yesterday. You know, when they're asking questions
Speaker 11: about this, they're saying, don't say anything about that. You
Speaker 11: could be viewed as racist or worse. Some of these
Speaker 11: whistleblowers have alleged that they were even surveilled or had
Speaker 11: discipline and action taken against them when they tried to
Speaker 11: raise concerns. So there are many, many layers to this
Speaker 11: whole terrible situation there in Minnesota. But I would like
Speaker 11: to point out, as bad as it is in Minnesota,
Speaker 11: there may be states where it's worse. I'm looking into
Speaker 11: trying to do more of a state a nationwide picture
Speaker 11: of what fraud looks like.
Speaker 1: Wish me luck with that, absolutely, And I think I
Speaker 1: might have told you I've had any numbers of callers
Speaker 1: on my Saturday show saying that and pointing to Columbus,
Speaker 1: and a couple of them said, hey, you know, stand
Speaker 1: by because something's coming out of there too. Have you
Speaker 1: heard anything about that?
Speaker 11: That is actually on my very long list of follow
Speaker 11: up stories to try to get to. I'm one reporter,
Speaker 11: but man, it was sure to be nice to have
Speaker 11: a team of us working on this. But you know,
Speaker 11: we're a lean and mean operation and you know, try
Speaker 11: to do our very best with with you know, just
Speaker 11: a smaller staff. But I tell you what, I'm I'm
Speaker 11: very aware of that. I've heard some things about that.
Speaker 11: I haven't substantiated anything along those lines, but it is
Speaker 11: on my list of things to definitely look into.
Speaker 1: You know, the stories you crank out, in the detail
Speaker 1: within which you crank them out is absolutely incredible. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this just isn't some kind of
Speaker 1: opinion piece. It said, boy, this is horrible. You drill
Speaker 1: down on it, and I know I appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: think everybody else does too. But one thing too, and
Speaker 1: this I don't. Oh okay, this is from Joe Thompson,
Speaker 1: a quote that again I think, kind of just boils
Speaker 1: it all down. Minnesota's fraud ridden programs all have one
Speaker 1: thing in common, and I know from reading your stories
Speaker 1: this is absolutely right. The one thing in common sudden
Speaker 1: explosive growth. According to figures, you know, the way these
Speaker 1: the amounts spent on these programs just skyrocket. I know
Speaker 1: one of them I've read in your reporting for supposedly
Speaker 1: helping I think it was disabled children. They were billing
Speaker 1: at twelve bucks or excuse me, twelve hours per day.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't make any sense. And that one had
Speaker 1: explosive growth sounds to me like that's kind of a
Speaker 1: common factor.
Speaker 11: Right, And that is started at like it was project
Speaker 11: to cost two point two point two million a year,
Speaker 11: went up to one hundred and seventy million within about three years.
Speaker 1: And you know what, it's just incredible. You got a
Speaker 1: governor who, you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be watching what's going on. There is
Speaker 1: no way that if this was happening in the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio, I guarantee you that Mike DeWine would know
Speaker 1: about it and would have done something about it. And
Speaker 1: as you said and others have said as well, and
Speaker 1: again with respect to media reporting, nobody wants to be
Speaker 1: called a racist, So this nonsense goes on. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just incredible. What's next on your list Janis. With
Speaker 1: respect to this, I know you mentioned you're going to
Speaker 1: start looking at other.
Speaker 11: States, right Well, looking at other states is a big deal.
Speaker 11: Also trying to bring out some more information about where
Speaker 11: the money went. I have obtained some federal court exhibits
Speaker 11: that show vehicles and checks and you know, other documentations
Speaker 11: showing how millions of dollars of the taxpayer's money went
Speaker 11: to things that most people would be pretty upset to see.
Speaker 11: Just trying to show where that money went. And uh,
Speaker 11: also about the forfeiture process, how difficult that is. One
Speaker 11: of the lawmakers I interviewed told me that technically the
Speaker 11: taxpayers of Minnesota now on a bakery here in Ohio.
Speaker 11: The quote own is in quotes, you know, because that
Speaker 11: was one of the things that that reportedly was purchased
Speaker 11: with some of these ill gotten games.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on. I know
Speaker 1: you don't do politics. I know you don't report on
Speaker 1: politics text you report on facts. But I've been ask
Speaker 1: you this I think a couple of times before. I mean,
Speaker 1: the heat's got to be building under Governor Waltz to
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there and resign. Have you
Speaker 1: heard anything more about that.
Speaker 11: Well, the one of the Trump cabinet members, Lenna McMahon,
Speaker 11: the head of the education departments, Yees pointed out about
Speaker 11: these ghost students, uh, people who were receiving a bunch
Speaker 11: of money for never even attending school or maybe even
Speaker 11: didn't exist. These people didn't even exist, are you know
Speaker 11: money going out? She faulted him for that. Now, in
Speaker 11: his defense, some people are saying things like, you know,
Speaker 11: the head guy can't know everything, but when there, when
Speaker 11: it's this multifaceted, a lot of people are saying, in
Speaker 11: fact what you said, which is that they believe he
Speaker 11: had to at least know, and the whistleblader blowers are
Speaker 11: saying that they told him. And on top of it, yes,
Speaker 11: there are there. These mayors didn't go so far as
Speaker 11: saying that, you know, we want you to resign Tim Walls,
Speaker 11: but one hundred mayors in Minnesota banded together and sent
Speaker 11: a letter his way. Now, maybe you know, I know
Speaker 11: the public's tired of letters, letters, letters, but you know
Speaker 11: this one, when one hundred mayors are signing it, you
Speaker 11: know that is a much louder microphone and so to speak,
Speaker 11: or megaphones than just one lone voice or you know,
Speaker 11: making a post on social media. So they're saying, look,
Speaker 11: our communities are hurting. This has to stop. We demand accountability.
Speaker 11: And they were asking it of not just him, but
Speaker 11: also the state lawmakers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have to have it. I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like this. I've been around quite a while,
Speaker 1: and I think it's just going to keep getting bigger
Speaker 1: and bigger. One thing, I just want to read a quote.
Speaker 1: This is mainly for the listeners of something that Waltz said.
Speaker 1: It's just the guy's just he's not based in the
Speaker 1: real world. He's in dream world three or somewhere else. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the governor. This is outrageous. I expect political
Speaker 1: attacks in an election year, said Waltz, whose re election
Speaker 1: bid faces at least ten Republican challengers, including Robins. He's
Speaker 1: a state I think rep Okay, here's what he says, Waltz,
Speaker 1: what is unacceptable is actively withholding information about fraud and
Speaker 1: blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda. If
Speaker 1: there is fraud, it needs to be investigated immediately, not
Speaker 1: sat on, redirected, or used for political theater. In your reporting,
Speaker 1: which has been extensive, I mean relatively short period of time.
Speaker 1: Have you seen any evidence of any of that, withholding information,
Speaker 1: blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda.
Speaker 11: Well, it's certainly not on the inside of all of that,
Speaker 11: But no, I haven't seen that. What he's actually responding
Speaker 11: to is a representative. Robin's a lady who has the
Speaker 11: fraud you know, Anti fraud and Committee in the House
Speaker 11: of Representatives there in Minnesota. She uh, you know, said, look,
Speaker 11: I have whistle blowers coming to me. They've they've come
Speaker 11: out at this Uh, there's like an online portal where
Speaker 11: they can they are guaranteed the anonymity. Apparently, hundreds of
Speaker 11: whistle blowers who work for the state well Welfare Department
Speaker 11: have come forward and made allegations and provided the information
Speaker 11: to her and other members of the committee. She says
Speaker 11: she doesn't feel comfortable giving that to the Attorney general
Speaker 11: or the other, you know, members of the government in
Speaker 11: the state, so she gives it.
Speaker 4: To the US Attorney's office.
Speaker 11: She's like, these people don't trust you. The whistle blowing
Speaker 11: would stop if it went to you guys, because allegedly
Speaker 11: you guys sat on it. You're the ones who's sat
Speaker 11: on it. Now he's accusing her of quote unquote just
Speaker 11: not doing anything with it or sitting on it. And
Speaker 11: she's saying, no, I hint the information over. As soon
Speaker 11: as we investigate that it's credible, we send it over
Speaker 11: to the US Attorney's office, the FBI, other appropriate agencies.
Speaker 11: And he's after he heard this. She said this at
Speaker 11: a public meeting. That was his response that he accused
Speaker 11: her of hiding information.
Speaker 1: Jeez, well, we're out of time, Jannis. I can't thank
Speaker 1: you enough. And I know my listeners feel the same
Speaker 1: way because they tell me how much we appreciate you
Speaker 1: filling us in on this because you're keyed in and
Speaker 1: hope we can continue to call on you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, any tips about Ohio, feel free to contact me.
Speaker 4: The easiest way to do that is just to go
Speaker 4: on my.
Speaker 11: Twitter and you can see it, says Janis highful, Hi,
Speaker 11: sle has my email address right there. It's harder to
Speaker 11: explain on the air to just go to my ex
Speaker 11: account Twitter or go to Epoch epoh Times and you
Speaker 11: can try to find me on there.
Speaker 1: Sounds good, Thanks Janis, thank you. Okay, all right, well
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Like I said, the plot thickens
Speaker 1: and she's all over it. It's just hard to grasp
Speaker 1: just the breadth of this thing, I mean, and it
Speaker 1: just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And accountability that's what's
Speaker 1: needed here, and I hope at some point we get it.
Speaker 1: Ten thirty eight News Radio seven hundred W Mike Allen
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday. Going to get to the calls here in
Speaker 1: just a second, as promised, But there is something I
Speaker 1: want to read. It's brief.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I am so blessed in this job to have listeners
Speaker 1: who are tuned in and know what's going on. And
Speaker 1: occasionally those that I know will text me, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got one not too long ago talking about the lieutenant
Speaker 1: governor Flanagan from Minnesota who wants to be the next
Speaker 1: Minnesota senator, talking about her this here's the text. This
Speaker 1: Flannagan chick in Minnesota that's wearing a hajib is Irish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Flannagan Irish? I get it. If so, that's cultural appropriation
Speaker 1: and these are my words and the liberals hate that,
Speaker 1: all right. The text goes on, if it's not I'm
Speaker 1: going to dress as an Indian squaw for Halloween. Goes
Speaker 1: on to say, Mike, when the worst of the worst
Speaker 1: are with others. They are probably a little bit less worse.
Speaker 1: I agree. It's kind of like MS thirteen members are
Speaker 1: only allowed to hang out with other MS thirteen members
Speaker 1: snatched them up and makes the point. They found that
Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar and Tampon Tim Waltz received campaign donations from
Speaker 1: these and from these those billions. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you could trace it to the billions, but
Speaker 1: I do know, at least I've heard, I even drilled
Speaker 1: down on it, that that's exactly what happened, you know,
Speaker 1: in one of them. I guess it's il Han Homer,
Speaker 1: i Owmar head a fundraiser, political fundraiser at a restaurant
Speaker 1: that one of these jokers runs. And you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's not proving anything, but you're certainly allowed
Speaker 1: to comment on it and read into it what you want.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm really blessed to have listeners like that,
Speaker 1: and I so appreciate it. Okay, let's get back to
Speaker 1: the calls. Who's been hanging on the longest. Kathleen in
Speaker 1: College Hill, Hey, good morning, Kathleen.
Speaker 13: Well, thanks mine for taking my call. Yesterday you were
Speaker 13: talking about the prosecution and errors that they had made.
Speaker 13: There's a lot of problems in the County common please.
Speaker 13: There was a judge that he would not allow us
Speaker 13: to cross examine Vanessa Wilberly on things that she pursued
Speaker 13: her self about. For example, she said somebody died from
Speaker 13: the fire. Nobody died from the fire, Yet judge would
Speaker 13: not let us cross examine her on that. Over one
Speaker 13: hundred members of the board of the Hammond North Condominium
Speaker 13: Association voted to remove Vanessa Wilberly. The judge thought that
Speaker 13: was a side show and wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Listen to it.
Speaker 13: He would not.
Speaker 14: Allow us to call the president of the Hammon North Board,
Speaker 14: George Alexander. And the reason I hope you're sitting down.
Speaker 14: The reason is because poor George Alexander, the.
Speaker 13: President of the Hammon North Comomitium Board, would have to
Speaker 13: use his PTO to come to court. The judge said
Speaker 13: that he.
Speaker 4: Was going to rule on.
Speaker 13: He was going to rule based on the Ohio revised call.
Speaker 1: Kathleen, you got to kind of wrap it up. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of callers here.
Speaker 13: Yes, I know, and I've only been on hold for
Speaker 13: over an hour.
Speaker 1: The judge, well, we can take care of that. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and we'll move on, you know. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be a jerk about it, but I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about what she's talking about. And I
Speaker 1: didn't say the prosecutors made a lot of mistakes. I
Speaker 1: don't the current prosecutor, Commy Pillach's of a different political
Speaker 1: party than me. But I think she's doing pretty darn
Speaker 1: good jobs so far. But anyway, enough of that. I
Speaker 1: know she's probably mad at me. But how the hell
Speaker 1: am I going to comment on something I don't even
Speaker 1: know about. Let's talk to Fred in sunny Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 4: Do it?
Speaker 3: Fine?
Speaker 15: Just a quick follow up on that surplus of eighteen billion? Yeah,
Speaker 15: in Minnesota, back when that was when the politicians were saying,
Speaker 15: oh look what we got. We got eighteen billion next
Speaker 15: or we're going to send you off checks. It started
Speaker 15: out they were going to send checks and rebates of
Speaker 15: two thousand everybody, Okay, right. It ended up not being
Speaker 15: that much. Number one people did get checks and get rebates.
Speaker 16: However, they had a company in Montana.
Speaker 15: Write the checks or you know, print the checks for
Speaker 15: some reason who knows, probably cronies, and the checks were
Speaker 15: mailed out in envelopes that looked just like junk mail,
Speaker 15: and a lot of people just.
Speaker 3: Threw them away.
Speaker 16: Wow yeah, and uh and like hundreds of thousands of people,
Speaker 16: you know, threw them away just and you know that
Speaker 16: was on purpose. That just goes to show what these people,
Speaker 16: they don't care about the people at all.
Speaker 15: No, that's obvious, awful, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: It is And this is one you know, the big
Speaker 1: kind of keyword now is affordability, and of course that's important,
Speaker 1: but frankly, I think what's more important is accountability. These
Speaker 1: jokers from tim Walls all the way down need to
Speaker 1: be held accountable for this because I mean, this is
Speaker 1: easily and again I think we've only scratched the surface.
Speaker 1: This is easily the biggest fraud case we've ever had
Speaker 1: in this country. And guess what, it ain't over. You know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom that something like that would go on.
Speaker 1: It's even harder to fathom that the governor and apparently
Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor of that state didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's go ahead.
Speaker 15: I'm sorry, Well no, no, I didn't mean the to
Speaker 15: go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say it just strange credulity
Speaker 1: to think that they didn't know about it. And then
Speaker 1: Tim Wallas a couple of days ago, about a week ago,
Speaker 1: I'm putting together this task force. If you do this,
Speaker 1: you're going in Minnesota. You're going to jail. Hey where
Speaker 1: were you about five, six, seven years ago?
Speaker 3: Governor? Oh?
Speaker 14: Sure, I know?
Speaker 15: You know what else? All these other cities, it's going
Speaker 15: to happen in Cincinnati if it hasn't already. Calmbus is
Speaker 15: into it. I heard, Maine, all these other places. Can
Speaker 15: you imagine all these people They're going to go write
Speaker 15: their checks to the to the tax band and as
Speaker 15: they're writing that number down.
Speaker 16: They're going to have this in their mind.
Speaker 4: Yep, how how many?
Speaker 9: How much can the people take?
Speaker 16: I mean, eventually people are gonna say, you know what,
Speaker 16: I ain't paying my freaking taxes.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling you that there may be a
Speaker 1: revolt along those lines. And you know what it would
Speaker 1: be I think justifiable, because this is just enough. These
Speaker 1: liberals they think, well, you know what, it's all for
Speaker 1: a good cause, blah blah blah, and there's no way
Speaker 1: they'd be stealing it. And screw the taxpayers who are
Speaker 1: giving us this money. It's just and it's like I said,
Speaker 1: stay tuned on it. I appreciate the call though, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks Fred J. Yeah, you know, I'm a taxpayer. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to write that check pretty soon coming up,
Speaker 1: and I don't like writing it and giving it to
Speaker 1: the government thinking that a chunk of it maybe going
Speaker 1: to this crap to finance these people from Somalia and
Speaker 1: again ninety percent of them. I'm sorry, Liberals, I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to say that, you know that are ripping
Speaker 1: off our country. And you know, he brought something up
Speaker 1: that just I hadn't thought of it. I think it's brewing.
Speaker 1: At some point. I think the people are going to
Speaker 1: rise up on this thing. And if the people of
Speaker 1: Minnesota don't, they're crazy. Anyway. Let's see Barry has been
Speaker 1: holding on forever. Hey Barry, how you doing.
Speaker 6: Good morning, Merry Christmas belatedly to.
Speaker 1: Everybody, you too, pretty good, Pretty good.
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask if you could explain to me
Speaker 6: why Amy one would vote for police stake COVID shutdown
Speaker 6: Amy Atkins.
Speaker 1: You know, I was surprised that she was the king.
Speaker 1: I thought they would have had, you know, a bigger name.
Speaker 1: Now the Democrats are struggling statewide now. But and I
Speaker 1: don't know much about her, but I and the early
Speaker 1: polls were is Vivek was really killing her. I think
Speaker 1: they've they've evened out now. It probably be a battle.
Speaker 1: I'd put my money on Ramaswami, though I can't answer
Speaker 1: your question because you know what, I don't know. Seems
Speaker 1: like a nice lady, But I wouldn't vote.
Speaker 6: For and now just years and years of being on
Speaker 6: the wrong side of anything that matters between abortion and
Speaker 6: she was an early Obama supporter, an early Clinton supporter,
Speaker 6: whatever it was important, she just got it wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I agree with you on that,
Speaker 1: especially with respect to the COVID thing. Uh yeah, again
Speaker 1: it's I'm going to watch the polls on this, but
Speaker 1: I was really shocked to find that they had it
Speaker 1: kind of evened out now. So thank Ramaswami. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be a hell of an Ohio governor and I
Speaker 1: think that he will run a really good campaign and
Speaker 1: win out at the end. But you know, you ask
Speaker 1: a question. It's a good question Berry that well, I
Speaker 1: can't answer. I do not know why anybody'd vote for.
Speaker 6: You know, as things stand today, if I had to
Speaker 6: vote tomorrow, I'd probably vote for Vivid, but I'm going
Speaker 6: to wait until election day and see what's out because
Speaker 6: if you vote a month or two early, you're just missing.
Speaker 1: Something well you know what, And that brings up a
Speaker 1: good point. You're right about that. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: everybody's saying that within the Republican leadership that hey, you know,
Speaker 1: vote early, vote early, vote early, and we can bank
Speaker 1: those votes. So last two elections because of that, I've
Speaker 1: voted early. But I know what you're saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: you vote a month early and the candidate that you
Speaker 1: voted for implode, You're screwed. I know what you're saying.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, I always take half a day
Speaker 6: off go vote. They can go get breakfast somewhere.
Speaker 4: But not everyone can do that, I know.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I loved and still loved because
Speaker 1: it was just the off year election just a few
Speaker 1: months ago. I loved going to the polling place to vote.
Speaker 1: You know, you do it, and you think, man, I'm
Speaker 1: proud to be and lucky to be an American. I
Speaker 1: like it. I wish they'd get rid of it, but
Speaker 1: they have to get rid of it. Across the board,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's going to happen the way
Speaker 1: it used to be. It used to be the only
Speaker 1: people that could vote early were sick people in the
Speaker 1: hospital and veterans who lived where the election was but
Speaker 1: were stationed somewhere else. And they've just expanded it way
Speaker 1: too much in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm a few years younger than you are,
Speaker 6: but you know, our parents drug us to the polling place.
Speaker 4: Cool yep.
Speaker 1: And there used to be a thing called kids voting.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago. It was kind of a
Speaker 1: charitable civic organization that he had little voting boosts. When
Speaker 1: you know, you go vote, the kid does too, to
Speaker 1: acclimate them to you know, what it's like to go vote.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to it, but I really wish we could go back
Speaker 1: to just the old way.
Speaker 17: All right.
Speaker 6: Well, if I don't see you, I'll you happy New Year.
Speaker 1: Be good, Okay, you too, Barry, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You know, he does bring up a really good point
Speaker 1: about the early voting. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is in Ohio. I think it's about
Speaker 1: a month before maybe even more than that you are
Speaker 1: kind of taking a chance casting your vote then. But again,
Speaker 1: the people that I respect politically, Alex Trantapeel you being
Speaker 1: the main one, say that it's in the party and
Speaker 1: the candidate's best interest to vote early. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll change someday, hopefully. Hey we got doctor Dennis
Speaker 1: in Annapolis. Doc, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Hey, Mike carried doing New Year?
Speaker 1: You too?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Two quick comments. One, I hated with the leftists when
Speaker 9: they discuss you know, when they get the immigrants, they
Speaker 9: conflate naturalized citizens with the illegals. Yeah, used to they
Speaker 9: used to say undocumented, but they think they've now since
Speaker 9: dropped the undocumented, and and you know for the naive
Speaker 9: out there, uh, that it makes for a lot of confusion. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they're talking about when liberals left just talk about the immigrants.
Speaker 9: They're talking about the illegals, but they won't say illegal, and
Speaker 9: they will.
Speaker 1: We will. But you're right, I'm looking at a thing here, doc.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I had to google something and I've been using AI.
Speaker 1: It was about an ice agent. It is horrible. I
Speaker 1: just saw the video of it shot and injured by
Speaker 1: what they referred to as an undocumented man.
Speaker 4: Uh in Maryland.
Speaker 1: So the media sometimes uses it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they do, but I've noticed that they've since
Speaker 9: dropped the undocumented part.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's their their ongoing effort to doctor our language.
Speaker 1: Yep, no question about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: The one other quick comment is, uh, I'm Catholic, but
Speaker 9: but I have the they it's kind of almost hypocritical.
Speaker 9: The these Catholic charities where for a long time facilitating
Speaker 9: the illegals entry into the country.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, people were donating that.
Speaker 9: It sounds all good and everything to donate the Catholic charities,
Speaker 9: but they were funneling money to these organizations that would
Speaker 9: go down to the border and uh and house and
Speaker 9: facilitate the illegal sentry into the country, violating the law.
Speaker 1: I read about that, and you know, I mean, if
Speaker 1: I were Catholic, and I am, I don't go to
Speaker 1: the camp or church mass anymore. I go to a
Speaker 1: different service, but I would sure drill down on that
Speaker 1: to see if that's where it goes. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good about the Camp of Church. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're if they're involved in that, then shame on them.
Speaker 3: But they are.
Speaker 1: I gotta move on though. Doctors Mike Okay, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, an undocumented man. That's what AI refers
Speaker 1: to this guy as I don't know. You know, some
Speaker 1: say what's in a name, But I think it's important.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out it's more than
Speaker 1: not having documents, it's trespassing into our country. Hey, we
Speaker 1: got just about a minute. Let's talk to Bobby. Hey, Bobby,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. I'm sorry, I can only give you
Speaker 1: about a minute.
Speaker 17: That's all I need. My brother, I want to tell
Speaker 17: you we sure appreciate you holding that torture freedom up
Speaker 17: high and bright every day because I think twenty twenty
Speaker 17: six is going to becoming dark outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. It really is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's looking like you never know, it's way early,
Speaker 1: but might be JD. Van's boy, I could certainly live
Speaker 1: with that. We've got to continue with Trump started.
Speaker 17: We've got a plan for the future, my friends, and
Speaker 17: go ahead and crush these left wing Marxists before it's
Speaker 17: too late, because they will be on the streets come
Speaker 17: this summertime. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1: Everything seems to be trending towards that. I just hope
Speaker 1: people in this country are vigilant, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not real optimistic about the future.
Speaker 3: Bobby.
Speaker 1: I probably should be, but I'm not. But hey, anyway,
Speaker 1: I do have to get out of here for the news,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate the corank you. Okay, thanks Bobby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got to break here for the news. But when
Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk to FOP President
Speaker 1: Ken Kober. Lots going on in the law enforcement department,
Speaker 1: and then I want to tell those that are on
Speaker 1: hold now from eleven thirty to noon, when I get
Speaker 1: out of here, open lines four nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen,
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen with
Speaker 1: hour three, third and final hour of Saturday Midday. Well,
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what. The violence continues in the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Fox nineteen reports that a mother and two
Speaker 1: children were shot on Christmas Day in the West End.
Speaker 1: Thankfully there they survived. They're okay. I think they're at
Speaker 1: the hospital. Arrested was some dude named Jadens Brown. He's
Speaker 1: fifty eight. He's charged with three counts of felonious assault.
Speaker 1: Brown had been accused of assaulting in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: the same woman he shot Christmas Day back in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, again, he was accused of punching her in
Speaker 1: the face and throwing her to the ground. He has
Speaker 1: more than forty arrest dating to nineteen eighty. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim
Speaker 1: did not continue with the investigation. Here to talk about
Speaker 1: this and a lot of other things, is FOP President
Speaker 1: Ken kober Ken, Thanks so much for calling in.
Speaker 4: Sure, Mike, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, I know you want to talk about some other things.
Speaker 1: I do too, But that last sentence that I read,
Speaker 1: those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim did not
Speaker 1: continue with the investigation. That's not uncommon, is it, Ken
Speaker 1: Cober No.
Speaker 4: Not at all. Yeah, Unfortunately, it is all too common.
Speaker 4: And there's usually a couple of reasons why those things happen.
Speaker 4: Is you have a victim that decides that, you know,
Speaker 4: for whatever reason they don't want to prosecute, show up
Speaker 4: the court, or and what we've seen several times is
Speaker 4: they'll show up the court and it gets continued once place,
Speaker 4: three times, four times and finally they go listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to see justice. I'm done, and they just
Speaker 4: could come into court. And that is the unfortunate part
Speaker 4: that happens way too often in here in Hamilton County.
Speaker 1: It does, and probably other counties. But I know for
Speaker 1: a fact, because I mean I've dealt with it from
Speaker 1: every angle that it happens. And you know, someday somebody
Speaker 1: is going to do some kind of study as to
Speaker 1: the cost to the criminal justice system for that. But
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there at this point. Elwood Jones,
Speaker 1: you made a very very strong statement Ken when he
Speaker 1: was arrested for ov I by your officers CPD officers.
Speaker 1: It's just your thoughts in general about that. That whole
Speaker 1: situation with.
Speaker 4: Him, well, you know, quite honestly, never should have happened. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you hit somebody, excuse me, you know, because of a technicality,
Speaker 4: uh you know, gets let out. You know, it goes
Speaker 4: to the Ohio Supreme Court, and the High Supreme Court says, no,
Speaker 4: this needs to go back to the lower court and
Speaker 4: be given a look at. And and instead, unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 4: we have a prosecutor that decided no, you know, not
Speaker 4: going to do this. No one saw justice in this.
Speaker 4: You know, I feel for the family. I feel for
Speaker 4: the officers that that were there had to deal with
Speaker 4: these things. But not only that, it's the impact that
Speaker 4: it's having on officers that are wearing this uniform today
Speaker 4: that are seeing this. But this is this is just
Speaker 4: kind of you know, the final thing for twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five that we've seen that officers are so frustrated with,
Speaker 4: whether it's low bail, no bail, you know, these light sentences.
Speaker 4: You people with gun charges that are being convicted, that
Speaker 4: are being put on probation just to go out reoffend.
Speaker 4: This is just it's it's a terrible, terrible thing that happened.
Speaker 4: You'll you'll never convince me that that he did not
Speaker 4: murder this woman when you look at the totality of
Speaker 4: the evidence. You look at Joe Deaters and Mark Pete Meyer,
Speaker 4: I mean, two guys that have given their adult lives
Speaker 4: to public service, to protecting Hamilton County. It's just it's
Speaker 4: a sad, sad thing that went on.
Speaker 1: It really is, and it's a kind of a black
Speaker 1: eye for the criminal justice system. But you know, you
Speaker 1: throw into all those things that you talked about, you
Speaker 1: got the downtown beat down, which we haven't heard the
Speaker 1: last of that yet either on Four Street. I mean,
Speaker 1: the cops did everything that they were supposed to do
Speaker 1: from my vantage point, and that's what happens. I just
Speaker 1: hope we don't have another one of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's the unfortunate part is it's what
Speaker 4: we're seeing, which is people are playing Hamilton County. And
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that the SOP fought
Speaker 4: for was residency so officers didn't have to live in
Speaker 4: Hamilton County if they don't want to. And as soon
Speaker 4: as that passed and both put in our contract where
Speaker 4: you could live in counties outside of Hamilton County. You
Speaker 4: can live in Indiana, you can live in Kentucky. Price
Speaker 4: begin fleeing because they see what's going on. They get
Speaker 4: a front row seat to what the justice systems like
Speaker 4: in Hamilton County. They go, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 4: raising my family here, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: You know what, I knew that residency was relaxed. Didn't
Speaker 1: know that you can go to other states.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm glad for that for the officers, but you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of speaks volumes, doesn't it. When the city
Speaker 1: that they're policing in is a place they don't want
Speaker 1: to raise their family. I think that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it absolutely does. And that's sad because this county,
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up here in my entire life,
Speaker 4: has so much to offer. I know, when we're seeing judges,
Speaker 4: you know, like Kurt Kissinger Josh Bukwitz, who are not
Speaker 4: being re elected that are law in order, they're fair,
Speaker 4: but they're firm judges, and people in this county are saying,
Speaker 4: you know, we don't want them judges. We don't want
Speaker 4: judges like that to be here in Hamilton County. It
Speaker 4: just speaks volumes, and that's why officers that see it
Speaker 4: firsthand are going, Nope, I'm out, And I don't blame
Speaker 4: them a bit. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about this, the Chief Fiji
Speaker 1: witch hunt and witch hunt is probably too kind of
Speaker 1: a term for it. Do you know what the status
Speaker 1: that is? I mean, it was turned over to a
Speaker 1: law firm, and really I don't even remember who the
Speaker 1: law firm was, doesn't matter. It just kind of seems
Speaker 1: to me like, okay, law firm, you better find something here.
Speaker 1: What's the status of that?
Speaker 4: Ken if you know, well, my understanding is it's the
Speaker 4: law firms Frost, Brown and Todd. Okay, they've interviewed approximately
Speaker 4: I don't know roughly. I think thirty officers trying to
Speaker 4: find out, you know, if there's something that they can
Speaker 4: they could try to use to have just cause to
Speaker 4: fire Chief Diji. My understanding is, I think the contract
Speaker 4: only runs to the end of the year, so we
Speaker 4: may hear something soon. But I mean that's the impact
Speaker 4: that even that has had on the cincinnat Police Department.
Speaker 4: You know, where there's uncertainty. Don't get me wrong. Interim
Speaker 4: chief Henny has stepped in has done an absolute remarkable job.
Speaker 4: But anytime you have an interim chief, and unfortunately I've
Speaker 4: seen it several times in my career, there's uncertainty. It's hey,
Speaker 4: it's how long is he going to how long is
Speaker 4: he going to be in this position? You know what,
Speaker 4: what's going to happen? What's our future going to look like.
Speaker 4: It's not fair to police officers, it's not fair to
Speaker 4: the residents of Cincinnati. And you're absolutely right, the way
Speaker 4: Chief Fiji has been treated is just this is nothing
Speaker 4: but a witch hunt, is you know, I've described it
Speaker 4: as you know, they're they're going to make an arrest
Speaker 4: and then they're going to decide what the crime is afterwards. Well,
Speaker 4: he's not how these things work, but that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to happen that way. You're absolutely right
Speaker 1: about that. And you know you don't. You don't hire
Speaker 1: a law firm to find something wrong with a police
Speaker 1: chief who has a stellar record. It makes no sense
Speaker 1: to me, but I guess it does. When you're talking
Speaker 1: about Plumb Street down there. I know you're not well,
Speaker 1: you are political, but you gotta kind of be a
Speaker 1: walk down the middle. But I don't think Ken we
Speaker 1: are ever going to see a Republican elected mayor in
Speaker 1: this city or even on city council. I was hoping
Speaker 1: so much that Christopher Smitheman would break through because he
Speaker 1: is definitely a friend of the cops. But man, it's
Speaker 1: and it's getting tough in Hamilton County too.
Speaker 4: It's a shame, no, you know, without a doubt. And
Speaker 4: we saw it. I mean we saw that the City
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati they have no interest in having any kind
Speaker 4: of you know, conservative on council. They don't certainly don't
Speaker 4: want to conservative as the mayor, and that's a decision
Speaker 4: they made. The city has to you just have to
Speaker 4: live with it. And it's the same way in Hamilton County.
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, I mean, it's there. There is no
Speaker 4: more law and order, tough on crime. You know, judges left.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think so far, Connie Tillis hasn't
Speaker 4: done a bad job. But when you get to this,
Speaker 4: Elwood Jonas saying, I think she just she dropped the
Speaker 4: ball on this one for whatever reason. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, had we had you know, Melissa Powers there,
Speaker 4: that this would have been a much different scenario. But
Speaker 4: the reality is, this is what we have to live with.
Speaker 4: If you're a resident Hamilton County, if you're a police
Speaker 4: officer in Hamilton County, this is just what you're going
Speaker 4: to have to deal with. And that's why you're also
Speaker 4: seeing officers that are leaving, and they're not leaving for
Speaker 4: other departments in Hamilton County. They're going to other agencies
Speaker 4: in Claremont County, Warren County, Butler County, just to get
Speaker 4: away from this justice system as a whole.
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day when I was involved
Speaker 1: in law enforcement and CPD, it was exactly the opposite.
Speaker 1: Ken When openings came up for CPD, people from the
Speaker 1: county would come in droves taking the test because they
Speaker 1: wanted to be Cincinnati cops. But as you just said,
Speaker 1: it's just completely turned on its head.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, well, perfect example. You know, we had, we
Speaker 4: fought for and were able to get the city to
Speaker 4: approve a lateral class of thirty officers. Yes, that class
Speaker 4: is going to start here in about six weeks, six
Speaker 4: to eight weeks. Seven people. Oh man, we have seven
Speaker 4: a class, a lateral class of seven officers. Now, don't
Speaker 4: get me wrong, I'm come happy to have those seven
Speaker 4: that we got.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they authorized thirty and all we could get
Speaker 4: was seven.
Speaker 1: Isn't that something? I'll tell you what, And I probably
Speaker 1: said this a million times, but in my wildest dreams,
Speaker 1: I never thought that would happen. When I took the
Speaker 1: test for the cadet program back in seventy four, and
Speaker 1: then you know, when we got laid off from CPD
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, we had to test again. It was
Speaker 1: down at the Convention Center. There were thousands of people there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was an unbelievable and for it to
Speaker 1: change that much. I just think it speaks volumes of
Speaker 1: what the situation is with law enforcement now and it's
Speaker 1: just a shame that that happens. But hey, let me
Speaker 1: switch gear and said, I you want to talk about
Speaker 1: some other things, but before we do that, I want
Speaker 1: to backtrack a little bit. Issue five. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: remember Chief Striker, very very strong chief. I think part
Speaker 1: of the reason why he would be a strong chief
Speaker 1: was because he had civil service protection. You and I
Speaker 1: talked about this, Ken, I think not too long ago.
Speaker 1: Uh is the FOP and hopefully there'll be others that
Speaker 1: are interested in bringing this back to the ballot to
Speaker 1: try to reverse it. I know it would be an
Speaker 1: uphill battle, but if we had that now, that protection,
Speaker 1: I don't think Chief Fiji would be in the jam
Speaker 1: she's in.
Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right, and that is something that is
Speaker 4: being worked on. It's of course in its infancy of
Speaker 4: trying to trying to figure out, you know, to get
Speaker 4: the language, to get all these things that we can
Speaker 4: so we can prepare this. But we are absolutely going
Speaker 4: to be working on this. And you're absolutely right. You know,
Speaker 4: if if we had a chief that was under you know,
Speaker 4: civil service under our collective bargaining agreement, we wouldn't be
Speaker 4: in this position. And that's that's one of the things
Speaker 4: now that I've said, you know, with with interim Chief Henny,
Speaker 4: he's in a fantastic position right now. He can go
Speaker 4: and make whatever changes he wants and he can do
Speaker 4: it without fear of being terminated, because the worst that
Speaker 4: he can possibly do is get demoted back to his
Speaker 4: assistant chiefs position, where chiefs didn't She didn't have that protection.
Speaker 1: You know what I forgot about that? Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's something that we are certainly going to
Speaker 4: figure out how we can get this change. That way,
Speaker 4: we can have a police chief that can make decisions
Speaker 4: without fear of city Hall saying no, we're not going
Speaker 4: to do this, and if you do well, we're going
Speaker 4: to find a way to get rid of you. And
Speaker 4: that's unfortunately why we are where we are.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, when this
Speaker 1: is all over with, they're going to have to back
Speaker 1: the brinks truck up to city Hall to get the
Speaker 1: settlement that she gets. And I know she'd rather have
Speaker 1: her job back, but they did her wrong, and they
Speaker 1: did her dirty. That's all there is to it. Last question,
Speaker 1: I have contract negotiations coming up twenty six. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that, I know you'll be in there fighting for
Speaker 1: your officers. Anything in particular about that that is unusual.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, unfortunately, you know, three years ago when
Speaker 4: we negotiated, you know, we were one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty officer short. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: the city has made the financial commitment to have these classes.
Speaker 4: The problem is we can't get people that want to
Speaker 4: do this job.
Speaker 1: I can, It's hard.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of it.
Speaker 4: Is is still a lot of it. You know, are
Speaker 4: some political decisions that have been made, like said you
Speaker 4: talk about the fourth and Element incident, this this stuff
Speaker 4: with Elwa Jones, that is just keeping people from wanting
Speaker 4: to be law enforcement in general. But yeah, as we
Speaker 4: go in to these negotiations, we're still going to be
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty hundred and fifty officer short. It's
Speaker 4: it's really really going to be interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 4: how this plays out, because you're you're going to have
Speaker 4: to continue to give officers quality raises and hopes that
Speaker 4: you know, people are going to say, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm willing to put up with the justice system. I'm
Speaker 4: willing to put up with these things knowing that at
Speaker 4: least I'm making a wage that I can take care
Speaker 4: of my family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let me ask you question. You said
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty officers.
Speaker 1: I guess it's fair to say, based on what you
Speaker 1: said and based on reality, they're not filled because they
Speaker 1: can't find anybody to fill them. Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like I said, we're seeing it where you much
Speaker 4: like when I took the test, you know, to be
Speaker 4: able to be hired as a Sin Saint police officer,
Speaker 4: thousands of people. I was just telling you at the
Speaker 4: convention center, thousands of people there, and you know, out
Speaker 4: of those thousands of people, they would whittle it down
Speaker 4: to two classes of fifty about a three or four
Speaker 4: thousand people, they would select one hundred. So you saw
Speaker 4: it was the top, you know, one hundred out of
Speaker 4: four thousand. Now if we get four hundred people to
Speaker 4: take the test, we're lucky and they're going to fill
Speaker 4: a class one class of fifty. So they keep on
Speaker 4: having more tests. Where I said, you used to get
Speaker 4: two classes off each test, now you get one and
Speaker 4: like I said, you're you're getting fifty out of out
Speaker 4: of four hundred people. And well, once you get past
Speaker 4: the written test and get into you know, the psychological
Speaker 4: and some of these other things, it gets whittled down
Speaker 4: to and if we get fifty, we're lucky.
Speaker 1: You know what. And you can't just hire at willy
Speaker 1: nilly because you don't know what the hell you're getting.
Speaker 1: It's a shame. Well, keep us posted, Ken, and we'll
Speaker 1: check in with you again. But I appreciate you calling.
Speaker 4: In absolutely Thanks for having me, Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, my pleasure.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: That was Ken Cober FOP president. Boy, he is turning
Speaker 1: into one great FOP president. CPD has been blessed the
Speaker 1: men and women of CPD with strong leadership in their
Speaker 1: FOP presidents. And that is just so important. You have
Speaker 1: to have that. You have to have that. I'm almost independent.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ken still a police officer, but he's allowed
Speaker 1: to advocate for his men and women and he does
Speaker 1: a great job of it. Hey, we got to take
Speaker 1: a break. Butt when we get back, we're going to
Speaker 1: go back to the calls. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, eleven
Speaker 1: thirty nine, News Radio seven hundred ww Mike callendar closing
Speaker 1: minutes of Saturday midday and as promised, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the Pones. Tanya has been holding on forever. Hello Tanya,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you holding. I'm good. I'm good, but you go.
Speaker 18: Christmas to you you too, Thank you, sir. I was
Speaker 18: calling just to put my two cents in on the
Speaker 18: Elwood Jones case. Yeah, okay, just a quick background. I'm
Speaker 18: I'm all for Trump. I'm all for this administration. I've
Speaker 18: been to prison myself. I was engaged to a man
Speaker 18: on death row twenty five years ago from Missouri. I've
Speaker 18: been married three times. See my personal opinion from my
Speaker 18: life experiences, is them using this hepatitis B as a
Speaker 18: reason to let this murderer go. I believe it's false
Speaker 18: because my first husband had hepatitis B. I did all
Speaker 18: the normal things that you would do with a husband.
Speaker 18: I even brushed my teeth with his toothbrush twenty.
Speaker 17: Five years ago.
Speaker 18: I also had another significant other who had hepatitis B.
Speaker 18: I never contracted it, you know, yet they did not
Speaker 18: have it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I haven't looked when I was prosecutor
Speaker 1: just very peripherally involved in it and some of the
Speaker 1: appeals and things like that, so I'm not really privy
Speaker 1: to all the facts. I do know this though, Mark
Speaker 1: Pete Meyer, who I know. We served in the Army
Speaker 1: Reserve together. He was in the prosecutor's office when I
Speaker 1: was prosecutor. There's nobody better in this town on these
Speaker 1: kind of things, and from what I understand, he was
Speaker 1: a little bit more than honked off about what happened.
Speaker 1: Because I can't tell you this Ella Jones was a big,
Speaker 1: big case that meant a lot to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially the victim family. But it's just a it's a
Speaker 1: sad situation. And you know the other thing about it too, Tanya,
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get a pretty good payday out of
Speaker 1: this too, And that's what's wrong. I mean, it's all wrong,
Speaker 1: but that especially he doesn't deserve.
Speaker 18: It, especially especially whenever it's coming out of taxpayers. First,
Speaker 18: we had to pay for him to sit in prison
Speaker 18: all these years, we had to pay for his original
Speaker 18: case to get put on death brow, we've had to
Speaker 18: pay for all of his appeals, and now we're going
Speaker 18: to have to give him probably a good million dollars
Speaker 18: or more. Yep, and he's out here already within two
Speaker 18: weeks committing prime even though it's a traffic case.
Speaker 3: But what's to come next?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you know that he would be when you think
Speaker 1: you do all that time, and granted he got let out,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think he'd be a little bit careful about it?
Speaker 18: I mean, I mean you would think, especially at his age,
Speaker 18: that you would be blessed by God and would wouldn't
Speaker 18: come home and actually live and be free for a while.
Speaker 18: You would think. But I want I wanted to run
Speaker 18: this by you real quick because I've been trying to
Speaker 18: get the world to know this for five years. No
Speaker 18: one wants to talk about it. I've tried the governor
Speaker 18: short of the president. I've tried d H d OJ,
Speaker 18: Homeland Security Central Office, with the Ohio prison system, the governor,
Speaker 18: all representatives. I've tried to get this message out. I've
Speaker 18: tried news stations. No one wants to get it out.
Speaker 18: With the gentleman that was murdered down here in Cincinnati
Speaker 18: who owned the gym.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 18: That situation as well as there was an officer in
Speaker 18: Ross Correctional Center last year who was murdered on Christmas Day.
Speaker 18: What no one wants to tell people is that the
Speaker 18: Ohio prison system right now is so flooded with a
Speaker 18: drug called tone.
Speaker 1: What's the I'm sorry, what was It's called tone?
Speaker 18: They call it tune like cartoons.
Speaker 4: Okay, because these guys.
Speaker 18: Act like cartoons. They hallucinate. They My husband is currently
Speaker 18: in prison right now. He's been in prison for eleven years.
Speaker 18: He's been in Warren, Lucas, Phille Rock right now, he's
Speaker 18: currently in Mansfield. Every single prison he's been in, and
Speaker 18: all the people that I've talked to, investigators, Warden's people
Speaker 18: in Central Office, all of them will tell you ninety
Speaker 18: five percent of the Ohio prison population right now.
Speaker 1: Is addicted to this drug. You know what.
Speaker 18: They will also tell you what they've told me. There's
Speaker 18: nothing they can do about it, except for they just
Speaker 18: spent sixty thousand dollars of our taxpayer dollars to put
Speaker 18: sixteen leather couches in my husband's unit five sixty five
Speaker 18: inch screen TVs out of our taxpayer dollars. But they
Speaker 18: won't take our taxpayer dollars and put body scans in
Speaker 18: these prisons.
Speaker 1: I don't mean you, but I think you probably would
Speaker 1: know better than anyone that Department of Rehabilitations and Corrections
Speaker 1: is screwed up in so many different ways. But let
Speaker 1: me say this too, and I don't need details, I
Speaker 1: don't want them. I would just like to commend you
Speaker 1: for doing what you're doing. Are you familiar with the
Speaker 1: concept of re entry. I'm sure you are, absolutely Yeah,
Speaker 1: And your exhibit a as to how it works and how
Speaker 1: it can help people have to have that coming out
Speaker 1: of prison. I mean the way it used to be.
Speaker 1: They walk out of the prison and boom, that's it.
Speaker 1: The concept of re entry is usually about one hundred
Speaker 1: eighty eight days. You have one hundred eighty aays half
Speaker 1: a year left on your sentence. Yeah, you start lining
Speaker 1: up services for them, try to find them a job.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I feel very very strongly about that, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to commend you well.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 18: And one of the major problems with the re entry
Speaker 18: programs is is that most of the halfway houses that
Speaker 18: they have, yeah, are in are in.
Speaker 13: Drug infested areas.
Speaker 18: And I've been to a halfway house when I first
Speaker 18: got out of prison. The first time they sit me
Speaker 18: on a pilot program to the Tavern House down on
Speaker 18: Queen City. We were able to get drugs in their
Speaker 18: cigarettes in there, We were able to sneak.
Speaker 13: Off, we were able to do whatever.
Speaker 18: The people that actually run the places, I mean, I'm
Speaker 18: just gonna be honest, a lot of them. The woman
Speaker 18: that ran ours her husband was a drug dealer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what. And it's tough out there,
Speaker 1: but again, I commend you. I got a bunch of
Speaker 1: calls here, Tony, I gotta get going, and I just
Speaker 1: run this.
Speaker 18: By you real quick because it's a person and I
Speaker 18: know the world's listening, and I need.
Speaker 4: The world to know.
Speaker 18: Sure, a lot of these guys that are coming home,
Speaker 18: that are committing these murders have been addicted to this
Speaker 18: drug called tone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up.
Speaker 12: Please do.
Speaker 18: It's all over YouTube. You can see how they act
Speaker 18: and what they do they don't understand. Like the guy downtown,
Speaker 18: it would have been a better chance if they do
Speaker 18: something with the drug epidemic in prison, that that man
Speaker 18: might not have got murdered. He was addicted to drugs
Speaker 18: when he got released, just like Elwood Jones. Even though
Speaker 18: he was on death he had access to tomb and
Speaker 18: ninety five percent the chance that he was addicted to it,
Speaker 18: and he's been released out here to our society.
Speaker 1: I'm going to check into it. I've not never heard
Speaker 1: of it, but I want to learn about it.
Speaker 4: But thank you for the appreciate Mike.
Speaker 18: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You have a good day, you too, Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: That one went a little longer. But again, I spent
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, Thank god, I'm retired, uh doing
Speaker 1: criminal defense work, which is hard, hard, hard if you
Speaker 1: take the job seriously. And there are so few success
Speaker 1: stories in the criminal justice system that I think you
Speaker 1: got to highlight them when you get them. Anyway, who's
Speaker 1: been waiting the longest?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: How's about wreck in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Hey? Rick? You doing? I was going to tell what
Speaker 3: that lady was saying. I heard.
Speaker 2: I heard there's a new drug that's more a thousand
Speaker 2: times more powerful than federal What is it about?
Speaker 3: I have as only that I don't know what the
Speaker 3: name of it is.
Speaker 1: I don't like that I heard something about it. I
Speaker 1: didn't look into it, though. Jeez, that's all we need.
Speaker 3: It's a thousand times of pomps and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh did you ever meet uh, you know, trouble since
Speaker 2: thirty police chiefs, they had it. You guys haven't had
Speaker 2: a decent chiefs of Stanley Shrotale.
Speaker 3: Did you ever meet that tele Shutel?
Speaker 1: No, he was way before my time, but I think
Speaker 1: we've had some good ones too. Tom Striker comes to mind,
Speaker 1: Larry Well and boy he was a tough chief. But again,
Speaker 1: like I was talking to Ken Kober, they could do
Speaker 1: that because they had civil service protection. Since two thousand
Speaker 1: with Issue five, they don't have that anymore, so they
Speaker 1: kind of like moved around the chessboard by the politicians
Speaker 1: and that ain't right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Showtel was is such a man across the country.
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, you know he made the cover
Speaker 2: of like Look magazine or something.
Speaker 1: I do know that. I think it was life. I've
Speaker 1: seen it before. Uh yeah, he was very very very
Speaker 1: well respected. But hey, I got I got to get
Speaker 1: a couple more calls in.
Speaker 2: Here, Rick, Okay, you hear about that. There's another arish
Speaker 2: between whether there's a skirmish developed between Cambodia and Thailand.
Speaker 3: Now that is insanity.
Speaker 1: What did you say developed between them? I'm sorry? Can
Speaker 1: you can you.
Speaker 3: Tell me that the war start between Cambodia?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean what in the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: You got me? Uh And my brother lived in Thailand
Speaker 1: for I think about five or six years. He was
Speaker 1: working over there, and apparently they don't They just don't
Speaker 1: get along over there. The Vietnamese uh are they don't
Speaker 1: like Thailand. So I don't know what they got going
Speaker 1: on over there. It used to be a very strong
Speaker 1: uh royalty situation, but I don't know that that's the
Speaker 1: case anymore. But I appreciate you bringing it up. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I did hear about that, And boy,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to over and visit my brother
Speaker 1: oom in Thailand. That flight was brutal. But parts of
Speaker 1: the country are beautiful, other parts not so much. I
Speaker 1: don't think they have any zoning because you could have
Speaker 1: a luxury hotel and a corrugated metal shack next to it.
Speaker 1: But well, i'll tell you what, it's big and there
Speaker 1: are a ton of people. Hey, let's talk to Louise
Speaker 1: in Marino. Hey, Louise, Hi, Mike, I'll make this quick.
Speaker 12: I know you run short of time, and I'm reverting
Speaker 12: back to the original topic.
Speaker 1: Okay soon, Tim Wallas, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 12: Because I don't know about you, Mike, but I never
Speaker 12: even heard of him till that bird brand Kamela selected
Speaker 12: him as VP, and I'm wondering, what't you think with
Speaker 12: that process that they would have been vetting and this
Speaker 12: whole big scandal should have arose. And the question is
Speaker 12: did Caamela know or not? I know she's not a genius.
Speaker 12: I know she doesn't vet very well because she should
Speaker 12: have betted that scumble husband of hers, which evidently she didn't,
Speaker 12: or who would why would she? But the question is
Speaker 12: did how much did Kamela know about the scandal associated
Speaker 12: with that governor? And then she goes on to say
Speaker 12: why she didn't pick these other ones? Can you imagine
Speaker 12: Micah for Republicans, candidate said, I didn't pick so and
Speaker 12: so he was Jewish. I didn't pick so and so
Speaker 12: he was gay.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And you know what, people think I'm crazy, but
Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I bought her book and all that
Speaker 1: stuff comes out in the book. I mean, I hate
Speaker 1: to give her any money, but I figured i'd read
Speaker 1: it so you all don't have to. I have asked
Speaker 1: the question that you asked from day one. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're want to be vice president of the United States,
Speaker 1: the presidential candidate is supposed to do a thorough, thorough,
Speaker 1: thorough vetting, and that obvious, well, I want to say
Speaker 1: it obviously didn't happen. Maybe it did and she just
Speaker 1: didn't care. That's how stupid she is. You remember when
Speaker 1: George W. Or not George W. George H. W. Bush
Speaker 1: picked dan Quail. Apparently he and I liked that, I
Speaker 1: did any problem with him, But apparently he wasn't vetted
Speaker 1: very strongly either. That is that shows that she's got
Speaker 1: a messed up campaign where she's messed up in the
Speaker 1: mind because how could they not have known about the
Speaker 1: time bomb in Minnesota?
Speaker 9: Ry?
Speaker 12: Why would they picked up the food? No one ever
Speaker 12: heard of them?
Speaker 1: I know, I did. You know I didn't.
Speaker 12: Well, she's not the brightest thing around. And you know
Speaker 12: the funniest thing, Mike, I'll cut, I'll make this.
Speaker 7: Short, but it's not.
Speaker 12: I was watching something and she's on there giving dating advice.
Speaker 17: I know that.
Speaker 12: And the one thing she didn't say is make sure
Speaker 12: you sleep with the married man to help your career started.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of talk about that. I
Speaker 1: saw that. I think it came out yesterday or the
Speaker 1: day before. It was hilarious and guess what, it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, which is not surprising, but it just
Speaker 1: wasn't coherent. But yeah, a dating advisor, marriage counselor Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: who would have thought, Micha.
Speaker 12: I'll let you go, Happy New Year, stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Louise, I appreciate it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: that is one of the big questions I've had since
Speaker 1: Jump when all this stuff was popping about Minnesota. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think about it. People had to know about that, uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, you usually hire a law firm or
Speaker 1: respected law firm, a firm that maybe has done this
Speaker 1: vetting before, and they just didn't. Apparently they didn't get
Speaker 1: a good one, good enough, because that's something that the
Speaker 1: candidate should have known.
Speaker 4: It just is.
Speaker 1: And she infers in the book. She doesn't come out
Speaker 1: and say it. The situation with her VP pick I
Speaker 1: kind of think she wanted the dude from Pennsylvania, Shapiro.
Speaker 1: But and what she said I wish I could remember verbatim.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, well that might create a
Speaker 1: political problem, which I read as hey, man, I can't
Speaker 1: take him. He's Jewish, and you know, I got all
Speaker 1: these anti semites in my party. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hank them off. And boy, if that's the case, that's sad.
Speaker 1: It's really sad. And you know she's still walking around
Speaker 1: appearing on shows, thinking that she's going to be a
Speaker 1: viable candidate in twenty twenty eight. I almost hope she
Speaker 1: runs again. Jack see she'll get killed. But anyway, that's
Speaker 1: just my two cents. Hey, we are out of time,
Speaker 1: but i just want to let you know again that
Speaker 1: I'm in for Sloaney Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday of
Speaker 1: next week. So I'm looking forward to that. Mike Allen
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
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