1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Day, there's Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday

2
00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Midday on a kind of a yucky but halfway warm

3
00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,159
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Boy, they're getting hit on both coasts with

4
00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,759
Speaker 1: the weather. So we escape that at least hope you

5
00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,640
Speaker 1: all had a good Christmas. I did. I am happy

6
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,920
Speaker 1: to say that God blessed me with a grandchild. A

7
00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Got a little granddaughter and it

8
00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,519
Speaker 1: was fun to be with her sometime part of the

9
00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,680
Speaker 1: whole Christmas thing. So I think Christmas is going to

10
00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,559
Speaker 1: be fun again. I've kind of got a thing that

11
00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Christmas is fun when you're a kid. Obviously, it's fun

12
00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960
Speaker 1: when you have kids, and then it becomes fun again

13
00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,560
Speaker 1: when you have grandkids. So I'm in for some good stuff.

14
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,680
Speaker 1: I think, speaking about good stuff, some not so good stuff.

15
00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,560
Speaker 1: In Minnesota, I'll tell you the hits just keep oncommon

16
00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,320
Speaker 1: with that place. Some of it, although it's obviously very serious,

17
00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000
Speaker 1: is actually comical, and I've got a couple of them

18
00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, but I wanted to

19
00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480
Speaker 1: let you know first. At ten o'clock, Janis Heisel of

20
00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,720
Speaker 1: the Epoch Times. She is on this story, I believe,

21
00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,200
Speaker 1: and others too, more than any other national journalists so

22
00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:26,479
Speaker 1: far she's got. She did a twenty page article, very comprehensive,

23
00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking to Janis at ten and

24
00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock we're going to talk to FOP President

25
00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,120
Speaker 1: Ken Kober about what's going on with CPD, what we

26
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,520
Speaker 1: can look for. And I want to ask him too

27
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,360
Speaker 1: what the status is for the witch hunt. And it

28
00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,400
Speaker 1: is a witch hunt of Chief Fiji. So we'll talk

29
00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,640
Speaker 1: to him at eleven o'clock. In between those times seven

30
00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,640
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one

31
00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,480
Speaker 1: are the numbers. If you want to be a part, Okay,

32
00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,840
Speaker 1: let's lead it off here. Article in Fox News Minnesota

33
00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,280
Speaker 1: Senate candidate and by the way, this Senate candidate also

34
00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,640
Speaker 1: happens to be the lieutenant governor of the state of Minnesota.

35
00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota Senate candidate wears Hajib in visit to Somali market

36
00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,919
Speaker 1: as fraud scandal unfolds. Minnesota Lieutenant governor and US Senate

37
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,200
Speaker 1: candidate Peggy Flanagan was seen on Somali TV station. I

38
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,919
Speaker 1: guess we have those here now. Well, isn't that great?

39
00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,280
Speaker 1: Wearing Ah Hajib at a mall as widespread fraud. The

40
00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,799
Speaker 1: scandal implicating some Somalis plagues the state. Now they wrote,

41
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,919
Speaker 1: some Somalis. I've seen figures of the people that either

42
00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,040
Speaker 1: have pled or are charged or who are suspects. About

43
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,000
Speaker 1: ninety percent Somali.

44
00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,360
Speaker 2: You know.

45
00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,080
Speaker 1: The hajib is kind of that scarf looking thing that

46
00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,639
Speaker 1: sometimes Muslim women wear. Wearing a hajib is it's typically

47
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,880
Speaker 1: a sign of obedience to God. Quote and worn to

48
00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:12,160
Speaker 1: show modesty. Flan again, this Lieutenant governor. She is a Catholic.

49
00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,840
Speaker 1: She said that publicly and on her campaign website is

50
00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,320
Speaker 1: quote her view on immigration is grounded in her Catholic faith.

51
00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,440
Speaker 1: Really okay, her far left views and it's just not

52
00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,400
Speaker 1: this incident, it's something else. Also prompted her to wear

53
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,960
Speaker 1: a are you ready this will be a big surprise

54
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 1: to you, protect protect trans kids shirt with a knife

55
00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,520
Speaker 1: on it. I don't know what that means. In August,

56
00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,400
Speaker 1: she did that in a viral video, telling parents and

57
00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to quote here, when our children tell us

58
00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 1: who they are, it's our job as grown ups to

59
00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,560
Speaker 1: listen and believe them. Close quote so translated what she's saying,

60
00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,880
Speaker 1: what you mom and dad want for your child, doesn't matter.

61
00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, the child will make the decision. You got

62
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 1: to be twenty one to buy beer, you know. And

63
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 1: they want these libs want the government to make the

64
00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,600
Speaker 1: decision on these trans things, not the parents. It's just

65
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,279
Speaker 1: upside down. Well Walsh got involved in it too. He's

66
00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,400
Speaker 1: quoted as saying, the programs are set up to move

67
00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,359
Speaker 1: the money to people. The programs are set up to

68
00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,360
Speaker 1: improve people's lives, and in many cases, the criminals find loopholes.

69
00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Really you just find an add out. But anyway, he

70
00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,480
Speaker 1: set up a new anti fraud task force. A little

71
00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,320
Speaker 1: laid on that governor. The message here in Minnesota, this

72
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 1: is from the governor again, and this is laughable. The

73
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,960
Speaker 1: message here in Minnesota is if you commit a crime,

74
00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,880
Speaker 1: if you commit fraud against public dollars, you are going

75
00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,840
Speaker 1: to go to prison. Close quote. You know, once again

76
00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 1: a little late on the draw there, Governor. Where were

77
00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920
Speaker 1: you in the last three or four years when apparently

78
00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people knew about this but they just

79
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,520
Speaker 1: weren't coming forward. I tell you what, if that guy

80
00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,239
Speaker 1: doesn't get indicted, I think something's wrong. There are criminal

81
00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,560
Speaker 1: statutes and I'm not gonna say I know Minnesota law,

82
00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,200
Speaker 1: but there are criminal statutes that are based on negligence,

83
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,159
Speaker 1: and some of them gross negligence. And this is negligence

84
00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,600
Speaker 1: of the highest sort. While you and I pay our

85
00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,599
Speaker 1: tax dollars, and make no mistake about it, this stuff

86
00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440
Speaker 1: is our money because at the root of it is

87
00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,640
Speaker 1: almost all of it is federal money. And guess who

88
00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,640
Speaker 1: pays into that. That's you and I. It's just I

89
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,960
Speaker 1: tell you what. For talk show host, it doesn't get

90
00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,560
Speaker 1: any better, and this one's it's not going to go

91
00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:03,160
Speaker 1: away soon. Donald Trump weighed in on this, as only

92
00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,560
Speaker 1: he can quote. I guess this was on truth social

93
00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240
Speaker 1: quote from Trump. Send them back to where they came from.

94
00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,760
Speaker 1: It's over. I'll tell you what. Harsh words, hard words,

95
00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,240
Speaker 1: but by God, in my opinion, accurate words. You know what,

96
00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,800
Speaker 1: we don't have to like everybody. We don't. You got

97
00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,479
Speaker 1: a group of people who, so far, it looks like

98
00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:36,320
Speaker 1: about or ninety percent responsible for what's going on. We

99
00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,440
Speaker 1: don't have to like those people. We don't have to

100
00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,799
Speaker 1: wear hajeeves. You know, we don't have to fear being

101
00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,680
Speaker 1: called an islamophobe. I don't know. We're just gonna have

102
00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,719
Speaker 1: to see where this is going, but it's going to

103
00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,360
Speaker 1: be a manna from heaven for people like me along

104
00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,800
Speaker 1: those lines. This one I keep saying, you won't believe it.

105
00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,719
Speaker 1: I gotta stop doing that because once you see one thing,

106
00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,280
Speaker 1: the next day, usually something else happens. Okay, The third

107
00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,120
Speaker 1: ranking leader in the House of Representatives, who happens to

108
00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,160
Speaker 1: hail from Minnesota, demanded answers from Governor Tim Watz after

109
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,920
Speaker 1: a YouTuber tried to confront employees of an alleged daycare

110
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:25,480
Speaker 1: center get Ready for This that had misspelled signage and

111
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:32,960
Speaker 1: no signs of activity outside, but reportedly received four million

112
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,680
Speaker 1: dollars in state funds. Got a brief audio of it,

113
00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,960
Speaker 1: obviously not video. It just to kind of give you

114
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,920
Speaker 1: a feel for this. Could you play that, lamb? Please?

115
00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,760
Speaker 1: Just wanted to put my son Joey.

116
00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,400
Speaker 3: Yes.

117
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,320
Speaker 1: Is this your daycare center? No, that's not what's helping.

118
00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to put a child in daycare. By

119
00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,440
Speaker 1: all the daycare centers seem to be closed. No one's

120
00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,240
Speaker 1: opening the doors.

121
00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,040
Speaker 4: Your work here?

122
00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,880
Speaker 1: Ohs yeah, what's helping?

123
00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,720
Speaker 5: Where are the kids? Sends its license for seventy four

124
00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,600
Speaker 5: children right here? State of Minnesota? Where are the kids?

125
00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,160
Speaker 5: They got paid one point two six million dollars. In

126
00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,760
Speaker 5: fisted Your twenty twenty five it says the have a

127
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,520
Speaker 5: capacity for seventy four children.

128
00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,800
Speaker 1: When when where are the kids?

129
00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,280
Speaker 6: Right here?

130
00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,480
Speaker 5: State of Minnesota website. You work here and you don't know.

131
00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

132
00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,240
Speaker 1: I was dead before. I don't know what was going

133
00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:25,600
Speaker 1: to going on.

134
00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,960
Speaker 5: Were there any kids when you worked here?

135
00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,440
Speaker 1: He's dead, he's there with so many I don't know.

136
00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,440
Speaker 7: I don't know.

137
00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how many kids are there.

138
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know your tax dollars at work, folks. This

139
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,160
Speaker 1: thing is just incredible. Just to kind of set the

140
00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 1: ground on this, I think you get it based upon

141
00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,360
Speaker 1: what you hear. This guy, Nick Shirley, he's some YouTuber,

142
00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,959
Speaker 1: not real sure what the definition of that is, but

143
00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,960
Speaker 1: he's doing a good thing here, doing a public service.

144
00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,079
Speaker 1: Shows up at this learning center, and if you look

145
00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,840
Speaker 1: at the video of it, you can see it plain

146
00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,680
Speaker 1: as day, A big old sign in front of the

147
00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,000
Speaker 1: learning center that is spelled. They spell it Leering center.

148
00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,920
Speaker 1: So the learning center is a leering L E A

149
00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,600
Speaker 1: R I n G. It was spelled. It's an alleged

150
00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,800
Speaker 1: daycare center. They got four million bucks. I mean, it

151
00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,960
Speaker 1: just it keeps getting worse and worse, and the dollar

152
00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,640
Speaker 1: amount keeps going up. Four million dollars of hard earned

153
00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,840
Speaker 1: tax dollars. This is the Republican House majority whip in

154
00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 1: the believe Minnesota Senate or House. He says, four million

155
00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,000
Speaker 1: bucks of hardered tax dollars going to an education center

156
00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,920
Speaker 1: that can't even spell correctly. Care to explain this one,

157
00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,439
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz. That's what this guy Tom Emmer, and he's

158
00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of leading the charge on this thing. That's what

159
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,760
Speaker 1: he wrote on X. It keeps growing, it keeps growing,

160
00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,840
Speaker 1: and we've not heard the last of this. I mean,

161
00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,320
Speaker 1: it's going to keep bu to be the gift that

162
00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,440
Speaker 1: keeps on giving. But at the end of the day,

163
00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,000
Speaker 1: it's just sad. I swear to God, all this stuff

164
00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,200
Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota is not that big of a state.

165
00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it really isn't. And nobody knew. I know

166
00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,120
Speaker 1: people knew. I know the mainstream media knew about it

167
00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 1: based upon what I've read. Of course, the mainstream media

168
00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,720
Speaker 1: didn't do anything about it because they were afraid of

169
00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,079
Speaker 1: the R word. If they covered it, they would be racist.

170
00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 1: And these elected officials in Minnesota are so beholden to

171
00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,520
Speaker 1: the Somali community, they just shrugged their shoulders and let

172
00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,760
Speaker 1: it go. That is negligence of the worst kind, and

173
00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:49,280
Speaker 1: possibly worse than that. Somebody in the upper echelon's not

174
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,880
Speaker 1: the lower stream guys of Minnesota government has to go

175
00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,280
Speaker 1: to prison for this because it's just it's unprecedented, and

176
00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,559
Speaker 1: it's a joke. It really is. It's the worst financial

177
00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:08,120
Speaker 1: scandal in this country's history. Well, Jimmy Kimmel, that's a name.

178
00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040
Speaker 1: You probably thought you weren't going to hear the news

179
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,280
Speaker 1: too much anymore. He got his ears pinned back to him.

180
00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Just recently he went to the UK. It just says UK.

181
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it's London or somewhere in Great Britain.

182
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,000
Speaker 1: He is facing renewed backlash following his decision to criticize

183
00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,840
Speaker 1: the United States during an address to the United Kingdom

184
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,160
Speaker 1: that aired on Christmas Day. Real Clear Politics co founder

185
00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:47,040
Speaker 1: Tom Bevan dismissed Kimmel's remarks as contradictory and called like

186
00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,960
Speaker 1: this and called the late night host insufferable, which, of

187
00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,160
Speaker 1: course he is. Kimmel was elected to deliver Channel four

188
00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 1: his annual alternative Christmas Message, a long standing counterprogram speech

189
00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:06,320
Speaker 1: that airs opposite the BBC's traditional Royal Christmas. So, you know,

190
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,080
Speaker 1: fly over to Great Britain, Okay, have a little fun

191
00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,040
Speaker 1: over there, then go on national International UK television and

192
00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 1: criticize your country. You know, there used to be an

193
00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,800
Speaker 1: unwritten rule for politicians and really anybody that if you

194
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,120
Speaker 1: went to another country, you didn't criticize your own country.

195
00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,720
Speaker 1: If you wanted to do that, you did it at home.

196
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,920
Speaker 1: But of course, with today's breed of liberals, that's not

197
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,040
Speaker 1: the thing anymore. Anyway. During the speech, the late night

198
00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,400
Speaker 1: hosts repeatedly took aim at President Trump, claiming that quote

199
00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,360
Speaker 1: tyranny is booming over here close quote in the US,

200
00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,640
Speaker 1: he booming over here in the US. He also apologized

201
00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,800
Speaker 1: on behalf of us, our country, telling the audience, I'm

202
00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna say this. You might not believe this one, telling

203
00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:10,040
Speaker 1: the audience quote, this is the a hole Jimmy Kimmel quote.

204
00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:16,080
Speaker 1: We are not bright, we're Americans. Wow, what a way

205
00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,920
Speaker 1: to go. You know, I got an idea, you whatever,

206
00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Why don't you stay over there? Why don't you stay

207
00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 1: over there? If we're not bright, why would you want

208
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,440
Speaker 1: to come back? You know, you're the one that's not

209
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 1: too bright, Jimmy Kimmel. This guy is just you thought

210
00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,960
Speaker 1: he would have his come up, but he didn't. And

211
00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440
Speaker 1: it's a shame, it really is. We are not bright,

212
00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,800
Speaker 1: We're Americans. That's what he thinks about you and I.

213
00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,280
Speaker 1: And he's still on the air anyway. The guy from

214
00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,760
Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics and Real Clear Politics I've found to

215
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,320
Speaker 1: be pretty pretty much down the line, maybe lean a

216
00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,160
Speaker 1: little bit left. He said. Kimmel's claims don't man, that's

217
00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,680
Speaker 1: right about this. Listen to this is logic here. Bevan said,

218
00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 1: Kimmel's claims don't make sense given the host meaning Kimmel

219
00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,280
Speaker 1: continued presence on television, calling him among the most insufferable

220
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,480
Speaker 1: trumpeters in America. There's a real contradiction there. If tyranny

221
00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,240
Speaker 1: is booming, how can his show be doing so well?

222
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880
Speaker 1: That's what mister Bevan asked. I don't know that it's

223
00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,960
Speaker 1: doing so well. I haven't seen any ratings since he

224
00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,120
Speaker 1: went back on the air. My sense is it's probably

225
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,840
Speaker 1: not doing too well. You know, whatever cable system I

226
00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,000
Speaker 1: have at my house, one of the channels gets the

227
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,240
Speaker 1: old Johnny Carson shows, and you know what if I'm

228
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,200
Speaker 1: not doing anything and it's on, I'll watch it. What

229
00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,640
Speaker 1: a difference between him and this new breed of late

230
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,920
Speaker 1: night talk show hosts. There's no comparison. Carson, if he

231
00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,239
Speaker 1: ever did politics, he made sure that he did both sides.

232
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, think about it. For those of you in

233
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,800
Speaker 1: my age group, you don't know, and you really couldn't

234
00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,600
Speaker 1: tell what Johnny Carson's politics were. And that's the way

235
00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be. Then you got the buffoon

236
00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,360
Speaker 1: David Letterman. I don't know if you've seen him lately.

237
00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,920
Speaker 1: I think he thinks he's Santa Claus. He's always always

238
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,200
Speaker 1: sticking it to Trump, always criticizing his country. Don't know

239
00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,920
Speaker 1: that he's doing it in someone else's country. But late

240
00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,880
Speaker 1: night television used to be a big deal, used to

241
00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,400
Speaker 1: be something that maybe you'd want to stay up to

242
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,000
Speaker 1: eleven thirty four. Not anymore. And that's just not me,

243
00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:45,200
Speaker 1: that's the people speaking. Here's he says this. If again,

244
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,440
Speaker 1: this is Kimmel, No, I'm sorry, this is mister Bevan.

245
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,400
Speaker 1: If you know Tyranny is so If you know tyranny

246
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,160
Speaker 1: is so great in the US, why does Jimmy Kimmel

247
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,720
Speaker 1: get to go on the air every single night and

248
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 1: bash the resident of the United States. That seems like

249
00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,600
Speaker 1: a free America. Close quote, and he's absolutely right. There's

250
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,040
Speaker 1: a guy named Paul D. Thacker. The only thing I

251
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 1: could find out about him, he's an investigative journalist and

252
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,840
Speaker 1: he wrote on X a couple of days ago, the

253
00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,120
Speaker 1: British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to speak out against fascism

254
00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 1: and in favor of free speech. This is the same

255
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,720
Speaker 1: government that only recently arrested comedian Graham Lenihan. And that's

256
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360
Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame there. Boy, I'll tell you what

257
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,720
Speaker 1: the UK, in specifically Great Britain, free speeches is going

258
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,680
Speaker 1: out the damn window. I mean, it's like King George

259
00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,280
Speaker 1: has come back. It's very very concerning. At any rate,

260
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,800
Speaker 1: let me just it's just a sentence. I want to

261
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,080
Speaker 1: read it again. The British establishment chose Jimmy Kimmel to

262
00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,880
Speaker 1: speak out against fascism and in favor of free speech.

263
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,400
Speaker 1: This is this government that only recently arrested Graham Linehan.

264
00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,000
Speaker 1: Everything is upside down in England. And the funny I

265
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,959
Speaker 1: love this the closing and the funniest joke is Jimmy Kimmel.

266
00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,639
Speaker 1: So you know, if you thought he went away and

267
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 1: stuck his head in the ground, you're wrong. But guess what,

268
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes a dimes worth of difference

269
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,200
Speaker 1: because nobody's watching that crap anymore. Late night television has

270
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,280
Speaker 1: just ruined itself. I think a guy that a woman,

271
00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,280
Speaker 1: even whatever, who was funny, kind of a Johnny Carson type,

272
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840
Speaker 1: who got a show like that and stayed out of

273
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,840
Speaker 1: politics or gave it to both sides. I bet you

274
00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 1: that could be pretty successful. But hey, that's just me. Anyway,

275
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,720
Speaker 1: we have to take a break for the news, but

276
00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,719
Speaker 1: we'll be back. The phone numbers are seven four nine,

277
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,880
Speaker 1: seven thousand, won eight hundred. The big one Mike Allen

278
00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,880
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday, Mike Allen Saturday Midday. You know, talking to Minnesota,

279
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 1: and I've been talking about it all week. I've been

280
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,359
Speaker 1: in for us Sloaning three or four days last week.

281
00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,639
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to, by the way, I'm going to

282
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,359
Speaker 1: be in for him all week this week, nine to noon.

283
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 1: But it's the big topic among talk show hosts and

284
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,280
Speaker 1: really people that are concerned about what's going on and

285
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,680
Speaker 1: are interested in these things just for the heck of it.

286
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 1: I googled most liberal state in the country and this

287
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 1: thing came up from a group called World Population Review. So,

288
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 1: being the responsible talk show hosts that I am, I

289
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 1: looked into them. World Population Review is an independent data

290
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 1: driven website providing accessible tools population statistics, demographics, blah blah

291
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It seems to be pretty straight up.

292
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know much about them, but at any rate,

293
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 1: it might surprise you. I thought for sure, I thought

294
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 1: for sure Minnesota would come up. It did, but only

295
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: at eighteen. So according to this outfit, the most liberal

296
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 1: state in the Union is Massachusetts. Doesn't surprise me too much.

297
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: You got Minnesota at eighteen. Where do you think Ohio fell?

298
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 1: They fell at about thirty eight. They're the thirty eighth

299
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 1: most liberal state in the country according to this group,

300
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 1: and that's about right. And the fiftieth and I'm going

301
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 1: to start looking for apartments there. Tomorrow is Alabama. So

302
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 1: that's kind of their take on what's going on. But

303
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask Janis about this. Janis Heisel, she

304
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 1: will be on at ten o'clock and we've talked about

305
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 1: this before with her. There's a saying out there it's

306
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: called Minnesota nice. And you know, the description I think

307
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 1: kind of gives the kind of tent that everybody's nice

308
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. I don't know that's the case. But they're

309
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: open minded about things, I guess, and they're welcoming of

310
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,959
Speaker 1: things different. Okay, I'm not that way, but I get it.

311
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I get it. But what I don't get is, and

312
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 1: I'll ask her this too, what I don't get is

313
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: how these citizens aren't howling. I mean, some of them are,

314
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: but sure doesn't seem like many. I mean, you think

315
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: about you know, what I'd like for somebody to do,

316
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be that hard given everything we have now,

317
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 1: which you can do, as statistics is per person in

318
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: the United States of America, per citizen. I should say

319
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: what this whole mess so far in Minnesota has cost

320
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: the average taxpayer. I don't know what it would be yet,

321
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 1: but probably a better idea if you're going to do that,

322
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: to do it, to do it after it's all settled.

323
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that's not going to be for

324
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: a long long time. Unfortunately, Moving right along here since

325
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: apparently nobody wants to talk this morning, Ice and this

326
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: is from Newsmax. I don't know if y'all look at

327
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Newsmax very much. You know, really, I don't, but when

328
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: I because I just think Fox News predominates over everything.

329
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: It's pretty good though. It HiT's some good stuff, good

330
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: ip eds. Anyway, they published an article the day after

331
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Christmas yesterday Ice. This is a report from ICE. Seventy

332
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: percent arrested, meaning illegal aliens had criminal ties seventy percent.

333
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: Now that kind of flies in the face what the

334
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: mainstream media and the lefties are saying with respect to

335
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: who ICE is getting, because Donald Trump did say the

336
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: first priority is getting the worst of the worst. However, Okay,

337
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: when you're looking for the of the worst, if you

338
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: come across someone who trespassed into our country, which you know,

339
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: guess what Looney left, that is a crime. You are

340
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: violating the law when you do that. So they picked

341
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: them up too. It would be uh, it would be

342
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: negligent if they didn't. But here's just a couple of

343
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: paragraphs of what this Newsmax article. There's a lot of

344
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: good stuff in here. It's by Charlie McCarthy. Roughly seventy

345
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: percent of illegal migrants. I don't know why they call

346
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: it that. I'm going to change it here, roughly seventy

347
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: percent of illegal immigrants, because migrant to me has a

348
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: connotation of legal arrested by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement

349
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: ICE under the second Trump administration reportedly had been convicted

350
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: or faced charges for criminal offenses. That's not just in

351
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: the United States, it's also criminal charges in the states

352
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: where these people came from. Goes on to say. New

353
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: data provided to the Washington Examiner. Boy, that's another good

354
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: paper shows Trump administration arrested about five hundred and ninety

355
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: five thousand illegal immigrants between January twentieth, when he was

356
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: sworn in, and December eleventh, just a couple of weeks ago.

357
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: And that is according to the Department of Homeland Security.

358
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was put out a thing saying that

359
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: roughly seventy percent, like I said, which is, I guess

360
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixteen thousand had and I'm quoting from

361
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: ICE had quote criminal convictions or pending criminal charges in

362
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: the United States, underscoring President Donald Trump's promise to prioritize

363
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst in immigration enforcement. He is

364
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: doing that. But what he's not doing, and ICE is

365
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: not doing through the President is just letting someone go

366
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: like Biden did. Well, he didn't even try to get him.

367
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: They're still going to be held for what they did,

368
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: and that's trespassed into our country. So you got a

369
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of things going on with that. This article goes

370
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: on to say that ICE is going to get a

371
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: whereas it one hundred and seventy billion dollars in additional

372
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: funds in the fiscal year I believe twenty twenty six

373
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: or twenty twenty seven, one hundred and seventy billion bucks.

374
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: You know, you can hire a lot of ICE officers

375
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: with that, which again shows the administration's dedication to responsibility

376
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: and enforcing the border. Tom Homan was on the TV

377
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: not too long ago, and he said he went up

378
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: in a helicopter, flew around, didn't see anybody sneaking in,

379
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: got on a four wheeler, drove around, didn't see anybody

380
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: sneaking in. So it's working. Personally, I wish they were

381
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: getting more than they are, but it sounds like things

382
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: are happening. We got some calls here. Let me talk

383
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: to Let's see, let me talk to Jesse. This one

384
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: might be good. Hey Jesse, how you doing.

385
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 7: Hi, Mike, This is Jesse from Indiana.

386
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for taking my call.

387
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 7: I've listened to you. I've listened to you a few

388
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 7: times this week, and you keep referring to what's happening

389
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 7: in Minnesota as negligence.

390
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: Now, it's at its easiest, it's negligence. At least, it's negligence.

391
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm saying, Jesse. I probably didn't

392
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: make that clear enough.

393
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 7: Well, just I mean, I could be negligent all day long,

394
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 7: and that million dollars is not going to follow my lap, right,

395
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 7: this was this was a criminal action.

396
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you know again, I don't think I was clear.

397
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the elected officials. Uh, the elected officials

398
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: who are supposed to be policing that this thing, unless

399
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: some of them are cramming cash into their pockets, which

400
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: is well, then it's Katie bar the door man. The

401
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: federal statute is very hard on elected officials who take money.

402
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about twenty thirty, forty years, so

403
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I meant by it. I should

404
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: be a little more clear, though, I preceied you let

405
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: me know. Thanks, Michael, Okay, thank you. Yeah, negligence is

406
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: at the bottom, and there are criminal statutes based upon

407
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: negligence in Ohio, it's purposely recklessly or purposely knowingly recklessly

408
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: and negligently. And for the elected officials, if they're stealing

409
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: money or there's something more serious than just gross not

410
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: looking at things like they should, then I think the

411
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: Crowbar Hotel would be a good place for them. And

412
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't heard anything about that so far,

413
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Okay, let's see,

414
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: let's talk to Jerry. He's all the way up in

415
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: Mercer County. Hey, Jerry, how you doing.

416
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: Hey?

417
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 8: You talked about fraud touring them.

418
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the that's the new coin phrase that

419
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: they've coined.

420
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

421
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 8: On Laura Ingram Show, they had emails from Smalli's in

422
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 8: Minnesota emailing to some only men in Philadelphia and on

423
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 8: the email said that they should come here. They got

424
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 8: programs here, you can make a lot of money.

425
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Yep, I heard that too. I'll tell you what it's.

426
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 8: They took fourteen and a half million dollars, bought bitcoins

427
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 8: with it, and fled the country.

428
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: Bitcoins great. Yeah, And you know what, as I said before, Jerry,

429
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: I truly believe this is a tip of the iceberg

430
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: on this thing. It really is.

431
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: Now.

432
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: I've had collars the last three weeks from Columbus saying,

433
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: of course Columbus has a pretty large uh Somali population.

434
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't think nothing like Minnesota. But the word is

435
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: up there, something's coming up there. I haven't heard anything personally,

436
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: but just stand by.

437
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 8: I didn't hear anything about the Eboch time. Yes, you know,

438
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 8: I'll ask.

439
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Her about it. Uh, well, I'll tell you what she

440
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: is on. And she's coming up right next. She's on

441
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: this like White on rice. I mean, again, very very

442
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: in depth reporting. But this thing's going to continue unfold

443
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: throughout the year and probably beyond.

444
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks Jerry, bye bye.

445
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, at a minimum, at a minimum minimum,

446
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: it's negligence with respect to the elected officials. Uh, if

447
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: they're taking money or favors or something like that, that's

448
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: a whole nother ballgame. Hey, let's talk to ye in Xenia. Hey,

449
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: good morning, Jeff, Hey.

450
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 3: Good morning, my great show. That just one.

451
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 9: It also too is because I sent actually a email

452
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 9: to Janis about because when I used to live up

453
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 9: in Maine, they had a large, small population up there,

454
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 9: and I said, you ought to really look into it

455
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 9: up there, because I have no doubt that, you know,

456
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 9: the information travels very quickly when there's easy money on tap,

457
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 9: and main Main's about as accurate as UH Minnesota is.

458
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 9: So I wouldn't be surprised if they got some funny

459
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 9: business going on up there. But I was just wondering,

460
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 9: you know, with all this stuff in the news and

461
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 9: supposedly how big this basically fraud is going to get.

462
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 9: I am sure that it's a probable USA wide. I

463
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 9: mean it's Minnesota is.

464
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 10: A prime example, but you know, it's things like that.

465
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 10: When people find out that opportunities are there, I think

466
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 10: they take advantage of them.

467
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: No question, no questions. And that speaks to the whole

468
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: uh tourism thing, you know what they're saying, it's a

469
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: new tourism thing to get people to come. Hey, everything's easier,

470
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: you can steal money, come on to Minnesota. I mean,

471
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: that's what you.

472
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 9: Got exactly, And I think there's plenty of people out

473
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 9: there that take advantage of it. And you know, these

474
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 9: politicians when they get these donations, which I really call

475
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 9: bribery for the most part, that it's it's it's there,

476
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 9: and they will look the other way because I'm sure

477
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 9: nowadays they have so many either back doors, offshore locations

478
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 9: or the donations however they do it anonymously or everything

479
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 9: else because you know, and it's it's really going to

480
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 9: be a sad state of affairs because the money's gone.

481
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's not coming back.

482
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 10: And the politicians can say, well, I didn't know, or

483
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to give the money back that

484
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 10: was donated to women. You took it in the first place,

485
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 10: you know, that was that was the first crime.

486
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 9: But the thing is, you know, it's just like Hillary

487
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 9: when she had all the money from the Clinton Foundation

488
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 9: and destroying the hard drives things like that.

489
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: Whatever happened. Nothing.

490
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: Now that's the biggest uh hornet's nest of corruption. I

491
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: think there is the Clinton Foundation, but there are some

492
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: There are some politicians if they take money from a

493
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: group and truly don't know that this group is not

494
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: a group they should be taking money from. I've seen

495
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: it to where they have either given it back, well,

496
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give it back because they don't want to

497
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: further the purpose of the group, but given it to charities.

498
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: That happens. But not all that frequently.

499
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 9: That's true, but that you know, I think the it's

500
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 9: it's usually okay, some of these politicians that get a

501
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 9: couple of million dollars, okay, so they've done it, you know,

502
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 9: twenty thirty forty thousand dollars to a charity. You know,

503
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 9: that is you know, it doesn't even come close in

504
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 9: comparison of how much money they pretty much got, you know,

505
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 9: by illicit means or otherwise. And they seem to be

506
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 9: able to hide it extremely well because just like all

507
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 9: these groups that are supported by Soros, you know, no man, yeah,

508
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 9: easily found out. But you know how many times in

509
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 9: the newspaper or on the news, even in Fox that

510
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 9: you read that, okay, this politician got x amount from

511
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 9: the Soros group, you know, and it's it's, it's all.

512
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 10: They got it very well covered up a lot, and

513
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 10: I think I think there is so much widespread corruption

514
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 10: I think in a lot of areas throughout the United

515
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 10: States that you know, we could reduce our deficit traumatic

516
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 10: dramatically if we would just go after some of these

517
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 10: people and make it and make examples of them, because

518
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 10: you know that if any Republican gets ever caught they're

519
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 10: purp walked in front of the cameras.

520
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: They're purp.

521
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 10: They know that they're going to be breaking into their house,

522
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 10: or they're there on the news. CNN's right there on

523
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 10: the spot. But all these other politicians, when you have

524
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 10: democratic leanings, just nothing ever really happens that I've seen.

525
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Jeff. You've obviously looked at

526
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: this problem and or paying attention to it. Do you,

527
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts think that somewhere in this

528
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: whole damn thing, there's some politician elected officials somewhere shoving

529
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: cash in his pocket. Do you believe that?

530
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: Obviously?

531
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 9: I mean, well, it's like what I would love to see.

532
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 10: You know, they keep bringing up Pelosi's name and the

533
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 10: four hundred million cheese work, you know, of earning two

534
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 10: hundred thousand a year, and she leaves forty years later

535
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 10: a four hundred million in her pocket. You know, as

536
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 10: well as many other politicians on both sides have done this.

537
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 10: You know, they were supposed to pass the law that

538
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 10: that was going to be taken care of, and they

539
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 10: never really did. It's still going on. You know, why

540
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 10: can't you know they come to a consensus because Obviously

541
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 10: we're the ones that elect these people. Why can't they

542
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 10: come to a consensus, say, you know what, this is

543
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 10: illegal and if you get caught doing it, there's gonna

544
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 10: be serious ramifications because they need to do something.

545
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: That's what it should be. Hey, I'm bumping up against

546
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: the news.

547
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: But hey, thanks a lot, Mike.

548
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, thank you, great call. Yeah, you know, I

549
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I kind of thought maybe they

550
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: weren't shoving the dough in their pocket, but maybe they are. Hey,

551
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: we do have to take a break for the news,

552
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: but when we get back, we are going to talk

553
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: to James about the whole rotten hornes. It's nest in Minnesota.

554
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: But I did want to say, if you are holding

555
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: up to get on the air, I got an open

556
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: line deal ten thirty to eleven and eleven thirty to twelve,

557
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind. Mike Allen Saturday midday, Well,

558
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what abeat goes on in Minnesota. With

559
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: this fraud that they've uncovered out there. It seems to

560
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: me like the thought is there at least at nine

561
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: billion dollars and probably headed for quite a bit more.

562
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Janis Heisel of The Epoch Times has been on this

563
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: story like white on Rice in my opinion and in

564
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich's opinion as well. She is the national reporter

565
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: that's covering this thing the most thoroughly, and she filed

566
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: three stories this week. One a very very comprehensive story.

567
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: If you're interested, and you haven't you haven't read any

568
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: of her stuff yet. This one is how Minnesota Minnesota nice,

569
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: and Janis is gonna explain that how Minnesota nice progressive

570
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: policy's paved the way for Somali fraud. Janie, thanks so

571
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning.

572
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 11: Well, thank you, well, An, I appreciate that.

573
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Up are very Christmas I mean, Merry Christmas to you too.

574
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This story goes twenty three pages,

575
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: and it is I mean, it's got everything in it.

576
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: And as I said, I think the plot just thickens,

577
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: doesn't it.

578
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 11: Oh, it's hard to even know where to start in

579
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 11: some ways.

580
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, what's the new? What did you find

581
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: out since we last talked. I know, the fraud is

582
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: just it just keeps going up and up and up.

583
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: But just kind of some of the major points that

584
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: you have discovered recently.

585
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 11: Well, you know, It's almost like one of those soap

586
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 11: operas that people were addicted to back in the day

587
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 11: when we last left our you know, our bad guy.

588
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 11: Here's what was going on. And the latest thing that

589
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 11: happened was just a couple of days ago, Kelly Loffler,

590
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 11: who is the head of the Small Business Administration, wrote

591
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 11: a letter to Tim Wallash telling him that she's cutting

592
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 11: off five point five million dollars. Now, that sounds like

593
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 11: a drop in the bucket, and when you compare it

594
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 11: to nine billion dollars, but it is, you know, a

595
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 11: chunk of money that you know, she's saying, Look, you're

596
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 11: not going to get this money because Minnesota cannot be

597
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 11: trusted to safeguard these taxpayer dollars. So that's the start,

598
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 11: and there's also quite a few efforts to try to

599
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 11: claw back some of the money from the people who

600
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 11: have already been convicted.

601
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: But Mike, as you know as a.

602
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 11: Former prosecutor, the forfeiture process is not a flick the

603
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 11: switch and you've got the money.

604
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: It takes a while.

605
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: It takes a while if it happens at all, and

606
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: if people in Minnesota are counting on restitution to make

607
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: the taxpayers hole I'm telling you right now, it ain't

608
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and it's not even gonna come close. In

609
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: your story that I talked about in the intro Minnesota

610
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Nice Progressive Policies at page four, I just want to

611
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: read one paragraph here because it's just incredible. You talk

612
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: to a guy named Ed, just a normal citizen, I guess,

613
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: and he said, this is Ed. There's a willingness to

614
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: help everybody without any consequences. And then you write, this

615
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: attitude made the state a beacon for progressives. It also

616
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: manifested in generous welfare benefits. Here it is in twenty

617
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: twenty three, those programs that you've described previously doled out

618
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: forty six thousand dollars for each person in poverty in Minnesota,

619
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: which is the nation's second highest amount, behind only Massachusetts.

620
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: When I saw that forty six thousand buck figure, I mean,

621
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, ibou lost it, and that's forty six thousand

622
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: probably most of our money, national money from all over

623
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: the United States. I mean, that's pretty incredible, wouldn't you think.

624
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 12: Jeez?

625
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 11: I tell you, just anytime the dollar amounts start to

626
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 11: come out about this whole scandal, it's just eye popping

627
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 11: another one that is a lot of people are not

628
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 11: really pointing out or reporting on that. I do mention

629
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 11: in that story is that Minnesota actually had an eighteen

630
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 11: billion dollar budget surplus. Every bit of that is gone

631
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 11: and then some and in just one two year period,

632
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 11: in fact, they are now looking at being in the

633
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 11: hole by three billion dollars. And I'm telling you, the

634
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 11: people I've spoken to who are ordinary taxpayers are hot

635
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 11: about that, and they are feeling it because they are

636
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 11: seeing their property taxes go up because of the fact

637
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 11: that number one inflation over the last several years prior

638
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 11: to the current administration, there are a lot of policies

639
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 11: put in place that inflation did go up and the

640
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 11: health values went up, and therefore the taxes went up.

641
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 11: Plus new taxes are being piled on top of citizens

642
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 11: to pay for these mandates coming from the state government.

643
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 11: And I'm telling you, people just feel the squeeze there.

644
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 11: It's it's really people are are not are very unhappy.

645
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 11: I will say the ones that I've spoken to.

646
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Are yeah, sures. And that's a theme that runs through

647
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: this story. You know, if you would, for my listeners,

648
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: explain what you mean by Minnesota nice and it's you

649
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: use that term in uh a lot of your stories

650
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: and it makes perfect sense. Will you just explain what

651
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: that is? And I guess along with that the attitude

652
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: that they have some of them out there.

653
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 11: Well, the term Minnesota and nice. I was actually told

654
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 11: it originated from a type of granite found there because

655
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 11: it's felled g N E I S S and that's

656
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 11: pronounced nice. But the kind of you know, manifesting in

657
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 11: a way of life, it's almost like the people came

658
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 11: from Norway. A lot of people there, and there's this

659
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 11: attitude where you're kind of you're semi warm, but semi frosty.

660
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 11: At the same time they're saying is that a Minnesotan

661
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 11: will give you directions to anywhere except to his own

662
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 11: front door. So their hospitality is kind of more on

663
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 11: the surface. And as that guy ed said so succinctly,

664
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 11: when people are wanting to give and say, oh, I'm

665
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 11: trying to help impoverish people or hungry children or autistic children,

666
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 11: there is a cultural tendency to just not ask that

667
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 11: very many questions about that. There's also not much of

668
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 11: a question, oh I need help. So when you don't

669
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 11: ask questions of either the givers or the receivers within

670
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 11: a government system, and you don't have checks and balances

671
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 11: in place, that's a recipe for trouble.

672
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about it. And that's a theme

673
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: that kind of runs through your story. At page seven,

674
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: you talk about the former assistant US Attorney I think

675
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: it's his name is Joe Thompson who worked on some

676
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: of the cases. Oh no, Joe Tireb. I guess outlined

677
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: fraud fueling factors in this case. And then you know,

678
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: here's the weenie as they say, this is a quote

679
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: from the former US attorney. Yeah, folks, coming from a

680
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: society with high levels of corruption. Of course he's talking

681
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: about Somollians. You mix that with a government handout system

682
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: that has almost no checks and balances, and that's just

683
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: a perfect storm for high levels of corruption. Would you

684
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: agree with me that in many ways, that's pretty much

685
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: the problem there in a nutshell.

686
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 11: Well, I quoted him for a reason. You know, the

687
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 11: man did prosecute a lot of these cases. And you know, again,

688
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 11: part of the whole Minnesota Knighte and progressive culture is

689
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 11: that you know, include lusiveness, that whole inclusive thing, and

690
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 11: you don't want to say anything bad about people from

691
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 11: other countries or ethnic groups, because you know, it could

692
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 11: be viewed as racism. And so when people in the

693
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 11: inside of the system started to see, hey, this isn't right.

694
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 11: How is it that this place claims to be feeding

695
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 11: you know, three thousand kids in one day and they

696
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 11: just started operating yesterday. You know, when they're asking questions

697
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 11: about this, they're saying, don't say anything about that. You

698
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 11: could be viewed as racist or worse. Some of these

699
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 11: whistleblowers have alleged that they were even surveilled or had

700
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 11: discipline and action taken against them when they tried to

701
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 11: raise concerns. So there are many, many layers to this

702
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 11: whole terrible situation there in Minnesota. But I would like

703
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 11: to point out, as bad as it is in Minnesota,

704
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 11: there may be states where it's worse. I'm looking into

705
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 11: trying to do more of a state a nationwide picture

706
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 11: of what fraud looks like.

707
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Wish me luck with that, absolutely, And I think I

708
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: might have told you I've had any numbers of callers

709
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: on my Saturday show saying that and pointing to Columbus,

710
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: and a couple of them said, hey, you know, stand

711
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: by because something's coming out of there too. Have you

712
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: heard anything about that?

713
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 11: That is actually on my very long list of follow

714
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 11: up stories to try to get to. I'm one reporter,

715
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 11: but man, it was sure to be nice to have

716
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 11: a team of us working on this. But you know,

717
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 11: we're a lean and mean operation and you know, try

718
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 11: to do our very best with with you know, just

719
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 11: a smaller staff. But I tell you what, I'm I'm

720
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 11: very aware of that. I've heard some things about that.

721
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 11: I haven't substantiated anything along those lines, but it is

722
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 11: on my list of things to definitely look into.

723
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, the stories you crank out, in the detail

724
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: within which you crank them out is absolutely incredible. It's phenomenal.

725
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this just isn't some kind of

726
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: opinion piece. It said, boy, this is horrible. You drill

727
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: down on it, and I know I appreciate it. I

728
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: think everybody else does too. But one thing too, and

729
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: this I don't. Oh okay, this is from Joe Thompson,

730
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: a quote that again I think, kind of just boils

731
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: it all down. Minnesota's fraud ridden programs all have one

732
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: thing in common, and I know from reading your stories

733
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: this is absolutely right. The one thing in common sudden

734
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: explosive growth. According to figures, you know, the way these

735
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: the amounts spent on these programs just skyrocket. I know

736
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: one of them I've read in your reporting for supposedly

737
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: helping I think it was disabled children. They were billing

738
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: at twelve bucks or excuse me, twelve hours per day.

739
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: And that doesn't make any sense. And that one had

740
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: explosive growth sounds to me like that's kind of a

741
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: common factor.

742
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 11: Right, And that is started at like it was project

743
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 11: to cost two point two point two million a year,

744
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 11: went up to one hundred and seventy million within about three years.

745
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, it's just incredible. You got a

746
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: governor who, you know, at the end of the day,

747
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be watching what's going on. There is

748
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: no way that if this was happening in the state

749
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: of Ohio, I guarantee you that Mike DeWine would know

750
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: about it and would have done something about it. And

751
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: as you said and others have said as well, and

752
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: again with respect to media reporting, nobody wants to be

753
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: called a racist, So this nonsense goes on. I mean,

754
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: it's just incredible. What's next on your list Janis. With

755
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: respect to this, I know you mentioned you're going to

756
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: start looking at other.

757
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 11: States, right Well, looking at other states is a big deal.

758
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 11: Also trying to bring out some more information about where

759
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 11: the money went. I have obtained some federal court exhibits

760
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 11: that show vehicles and checks and you know, other documentations

761
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 11: showing how millions of dollars of the taxpayer's money went

762
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 11: to things that most people would be pretty upset to see.

763
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 11: Just trying to show where that money went. And uh,

764
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 11: also about the forfeiture process, how difficult that is. One

765
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 11: of the lawmakers I interviewed told me that technically the

766
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 11: taxpayers of Minnesota now on a bakery here in Ohio.

767
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 11: The quote own is in quotes, you know, because that

768
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 11: was one of the things that that reportedly was purchased

769
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 11: with some of these ill gotten games.

770
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: Yep.

771
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on. I know

772
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: you don't do politics. I know you don't report on

773
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: politics text you report on facts. But I've been ask

774
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: you this I think a couple of times before. I mean,

775
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the heat's got to be building under Governor Waltz to

776
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there and resign. Have you

777
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: heard anything more about that.

778
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 11: Well, the one of the Trump cabinet members, Lenna McMahon,

779
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 11: the head of the education departments, Yees pointed out about

780
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 11: these ghost students, uh, people who were receiving a bunch

781
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 11: of money for never even attending school or maybe even

782
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 11: didn't exist. These people didn't even exist, are you know

783
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 11: money going out? She faulted him for that. Now, in

784
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 11: his defense, some people are saying things like, you know,

785
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 11: the head guy can't know everything, but when there, when

786
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 11: it's this multifaceted, a lot of people are saying, in

787
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 11: fact what you said, which is that they believe he

788
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 11: had to at least know, and the whistleblader blowers are

789
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 11: saying that they told him. And on top of it, yes,

790
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 11: there are there. These mayors didn't go so far as

791
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 11: saying that, you know, we want you to resign Tim Walls,

792
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 11: but one hundred mayors in Minnesota banded together and sent

793
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 11: a letter his way. Now, maybe you know, I know

794
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 11: the public's tired of letters, letters, letters, but you know

795
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 11: this one, when one hundred mayors are signing it, you

796
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 11: know that is a much louder microphone and so to speak,

797
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 11: or megaphones than just one lone voice or you know,

798
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 11: making a post on social media. So they're saying, look,

799
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 11: our communities are hurting. This has to stop. We demand accountability.

800
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 11: And they were asking it of not just him, but

801
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 11: also the state lawmakers.

802
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have to have it. I've never

803
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: seen anything like this. I've been around quite a while,

804
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's just going to keep getting bigger

805
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: and bigger. One thing, I just want to read a quote.

806
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: This is mainly for the listeners of something that Waltz said.

807
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: It's just the guy's just he's not based in the

808
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: real world. He's in dream world three or somewhere else. Okay,

809
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: this is the governor. This is outrageous. I expect political

810
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: attacks in an election year, said Waltz, whose re election

811
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: bid faces at least ten Republican challengers, including Robins. He's

812
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: a state I think rep Okay, here's what he says, Waltz,

813
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: what is unacceptable is actively withholding information about fraud and

814
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda. If

815
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: there is fraud, it needs to be investigated immediately, not

816
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: sat on, redirected, or used for political theater. In your reporting,

817
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: which has been extensive, I mean relatively short period of time.

818
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen any evidence of any of that, withholding information,

819
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: blocking investigations in order to advance a political agenda.

820
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 11: Well, it's certainly not on the inside of all of that,

821
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 11: But no, I haven't seen that. What he's actually responding

822
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 11: to is a representative. Robin's a lady who has the

823
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 11: fraud you know, Anti fraud and Committee in the House

824
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 11: of Representatives there in Minnesota. She uh, you know, said, look,

825
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 11: I have whistle blowers coming to me. They've they've come

826
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 11: out at this Uh, there's like an online portal where

827
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 11: they can they are guaranteed the anonymity. Apparently, hundreds of

828
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 11: whistle blowers who work for the state well Welfare Department

829
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 11: have come forward and made allegations and provided the information

830
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 11: to her and other members of the committee. She says

831
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 11: she doesn't feel comfortable giving that to the Attorney general

832
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 11: or the other, you know, members of the government in

833
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 11: the state, so she gives it.

834
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 4: To the US Attorney's office.

835
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 11: She's like, these people don't trust you. The whistle blowing

836
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 11: would stop if it went to you guys, because allegedly

837
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 11: you guys sat on it. You're the ones who's sat

838
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 11: on it. Now he's accusing her of quote unquote just

839
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 11: not doing anything with it or sitting on it. And

840
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 11: she's saying, no, I hint the information over. As soon

841
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 11: as we investigate that it's credible, we send it over

842
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 11: to the US Attorney's office, the FBI, other appropriate agencies.

843
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 11: And he's after he heard this. She said this at

844
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 11: a public meeting. That was his response that he accused

845
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 11: her of hiding information.

846
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Jeez, well, we're out of time, Jannis. I can't thank

847
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: you enough. And I know my listeners feel the same

848
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: way because they tell me how much we appreciate you

849
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: filling us in on this because you're keyed in and

850
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: hope we can continue to call on you.

851
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, any tips about Ohio, feel free to contact me.

852
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: The easiest way to do that is just to go

853
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: on my.

854
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 11: Twitter and you can see it, says Janis highful, Hi,

855
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 11: sle has my email address right there. It's harder to

856
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 11: explain on the air to just go to my ex

857
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 11: account Twitter or go to Epoch epoh Times and you

858
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 11: can try to find me on there.

859
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Sounds good, Thanks Janis, thank you. Okay, all right, well

860
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Like I said, the plot thickens

861
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: and she's all over it. It's just hard to grasp

862
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: just the breadth of this thing, I mean, and it

863
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And accountability that's what's

864
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: needed here, and I hope at some point we get it.

865
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: Ten thirty eight News Radio seven hundred W Mike Allen

866
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday. Going to get to the calls here in

867
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: just a second, as promised, But there is something I

868
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: want to read. It's brief.

869
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: You know.

870
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: I am so blessed in this job to have listeners

871
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: who are tuned in and know what's going on. And

872
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: occasionally those that I know will text me, Okay, I

873
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: got one not too long ago talking about the lieutenant

874
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: governor Flanagan from Minnesota who wants to be the next

875
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: Minnesota senator, talking about her this here's the text. This

876
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: Flannagan chick in Minnesota that's wearing a hajib is Irish. Yeah,

877
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: Flannagan Irish? I get it. If so, that's cultural appropriation

878
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: and these are my words and the liberals hate that,

879
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: all right. The text goes on, if it's not I'm

880
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: going to dress as an Indian squaw for Halloween. Goes

881
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: on to say, Mike, when the worst of the worst

882
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: are with others. They are probably a little bit less worse.

883
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: I agree. It's kind of like MS thirteen members are

884
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: only allowed to hang out with other MS thirteen members

885
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: snatched them up and makes the point. They found that

886
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar and Tampon Tim Waltz received campaign donations from

887
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: these and from these those billions. You know, I don't

888
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: know if you could trace it to the billions, but

889
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I do know, at least I've heard, I even drilled

890
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: down on it, that that's exactly what happened, you know,

891
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: in one of them. I guess it's il Han Homer,

892
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: i Owmar head a fundraiser, political fundraiser at a restaurant

893
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: that one of these jokers runs. And you know what

894
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean. That's not proving anything, but you're certainly allowed

895
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: to comment on it and read into it what you want.

896
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm really blessed to have listeners like that,

897
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: and I so appreciate it. Okay, let's get back to

898
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: the calls. Who's been hanging on the longest. Kathleen in

899
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: College Hill, Hey, good morning, Kathleen.

900
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 13: Well, thanks mine for taking my call. Yesterday you were

901
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 13: talking about the prosecution and errors that they had made.

902
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 13: There's a lot of problems in the County common please.

903
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 13: There was a judge that he would not allow us

904
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 13: to cross examine Vanessa Wilberly on things that she pursued

905
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 13: her self about. For example, she said somebody died from

906
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 13: the fire. Nobody died from the fire, Yet judge would

907
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 13: not let us cross examine her on that. Over one

908
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 13: hundred members of the board of the Hammond North Condominium

909
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 13: Association voted to remove Vanessa Wilberly. The judge thought that

910
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 13: was a side show and wouldn't.

911
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 4: Listen to it.

912
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 13: He would not.

913
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 14: Allow us to call the president of the Hammon North Board,

914
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 14: George Alexander. And the reason I hope you're sitting down.

915
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 14: The reason is because poor George Alexander, the.

916
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 13: President of the Hammon North Comomitium Board, would have to

917
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 13: use his PTO to come to court. The judge said

918
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 13: that he.

919
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 4: Was going to rule on.

920
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 13: He was going to rule based on the Ohio revised call.

921
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: Kathleen, you got to kind of wrap it up. I

922
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: got a lot of callers here.

923
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 13: Yes, I know, and I've only been on hold for

924
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 13: over an hour.

925
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: The judge, well, we can take care of that. Let's

926
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: go ahead and we'll move on, you know. And I

927
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: don't mean to be a jerk about it, but I

928
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: don't know anything about what she's talking about. And I

929
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: didn't say the prosecutors made a lot of mistakes. I

930
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: don't the current prosecutor, Commy Pillach's of a different political

931
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: party than me. But I think she's doing pretty darn

932
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: good jobs so far. But anyway, enough of that. I

933
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: know she's probably mad at me. But how the hell

934
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: am I going to comment on something I don't even

935
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: know about. Let's talk to Fred in sunny Saint Petersburg.

936
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: How you doing?

937
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: Do it?

938
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: Fine?

939
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 15: Just a quick follow up on that surplus of eighteen billion? Yeah,

940
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 15: in Minnesota, back when that was when the politicians were saying,

941
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 15: oh look what we got. We got eighteen billion next

942
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 15: or we're going to send you off checks. It started

943
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 15: out they were going to send checks and rebates of

944
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 15: two thousand everybody, Okay, right. It ended up not being

945
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 15: that much. Number one people did get checks and get rebates.

946
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 16: However, they had a company in Montana.

947
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 15: Write the checks or you know, print the checks for

948
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 15: some reason who knows, probably cronies, and the checks were

949
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 15: mailed out in envelopes that looked just like junk mail,

950
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 15: and a lot of people just.

951
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: Threw them away.

952
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 16: Wow yeah, and uh and like hundreds of thousands of people,

953
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 16: you know, threw them away just and you know that

954
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 16: was on purpose. That just goes to show what these people,

955
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 16: they don't care about the people at all.

956
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 15: No, that's obvious, awful, it's disgusting.

957
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: It is And this is one you know, the big

958
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of keyword now is affordability, and of course that's important,

959
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: but frankly, I think what's more important is accountability. These

960
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: jokers from tim Walls all the way down need to

961
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: be held accountable for this because I mean, this is

962
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: easily and again I think we've only scratched the surface.

963
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: This is easily the biggest fraud case we've ever had

964
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: in this country. And guess what, it ain't over. You know,

965
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom that something like that would go on.

966
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: It's even harder to fathom that the governor and apparently

967
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor of that state didn't do anything about it.

968
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: It's go ahead.

969
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 15: I'm sorry, Well no, no, I didn't mean the to

970
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 15: go ahead.

971
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say it just strange credulity

972
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: to think that they didn't know about it. And then

973
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: Tim Wallas a couple of days ago, about a week ago,

974
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm putting together this task force. If you do this,

975
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: you're going in Minnesota. You're going to jail. Hey where

976
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: were you about five, six, seven years ago?

977
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 3: Governor? Oh?

978
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 14: Sure, I know?

979
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 15: You know what else? All these other cities, it's going

980
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 15: to happen in Cincinnati if it hasn't already. Calmbus is

981
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 15: into it. I heard, Maine, all these other places. Can

982
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 15: you imagine all these people They're going to go write

983
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 15: their checks to the to the tax band and as

984
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 15: they're writing that number down.

985
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 16: They're going to have this in their mind.

986
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: Yep, how how many?

987
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 9: How much can the people take?

988
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 16: I mean, eventually people are gonna say, you know what,

989
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 16: I ain't paying my freaking taxes.

990
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling you that there may be a

991
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: revolt along those lines. And you know what it would

992
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: be I think justifiable, because this is just enough. These

993
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: liberals they think, well, you know what, it's all for

994
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 1: a good cause, blah blah blah, and there's no way

995
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: they'd be stealing it. And screw the taxpayers who are

996
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: giving us this money. It's just and it's like I said,

997
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: stay tuned on it. I appreciate the call though, Thank you,

998
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: Thanks Fred J. Yeah, you know, I'm a taxpayer. I'm

999
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to write that check pretty soon coming up,

1000
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: and I don't like writing it and giving it to

1001
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: the government thinking that a chunk of it maybe going

1002
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: to this crap to finance these people from Somalia and

1003
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: again ninety percent of them. I'm sorry, Liberals, I'm going

1004
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: to continue to say that, you know that are ripping

1005
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: off our country. And you know, he brought something up

1006
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: that just I hadn't thought of it. I think it's brewing.

1007
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: At some point. I think the people are going to

1008
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: rise up on this thing. And if the people of

1009
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota don't, they're crazy. Anyway. Let's see Barry has been

1010
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: holding on forever. Hey Barry, how you doing.

1011
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 6: Good morning, Merry Christmas belatedly to.

1012
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: Everybody, you too, pretty good, Pretty good.

1013
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask if you could explain to me

1014
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 6: why Amy one would vote for police stake COVID shutdown

1015
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 6: Amy Atkins.

1016
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, I was surprised that she was the king.

1017
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: I thought they would have had, you know, a bigger name.

1018
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Now the Democrats are struggling statewide now. But and I

1019
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: don't know much about her, but I and the early

1020
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: polls were is Vivek was really killing her. I think

1021
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: they've they've evened out now. It probably be a battle.

1022
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: I'd put my money on Ramaswami, though I can't answer

1023
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: your question because you know what, I don't know. Seems

1024
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: like a nice lady, But I wouldn't vote.

1025
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 6: For and now just years and years of being on

1026
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 6: the wrong side of anything that matters between abortion and

1027
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 6: she was an early Obama supporter, an early Clinton supporter,

1028
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 6: whatever it was important, she just got it wrong.

1029
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I agree with you on that,

1030
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: especially with respect to the COVID thing. Uh yeah, again

1031
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: it's I'm going to watch the polls on this, but

1032
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: I was really shocked to find that they had it

1033
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: kind of evened out now. So thank Ramaswami. I think

1034
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: it'd be a hell of an Ohio governor and I

1035
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: think that he will run a really good campaign and

1036
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: win out at the end. But you know, you ask

1037
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: a question. It's a good question Berry that well, I

1038
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: can't answer. I do not know why anybody'd vote for.

1039
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 6: You know, as things stand today, if I had to

1040
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 6: vote tomorrow, I'd probably vote for Vivid, but I'm going

1041
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 6: to wait until election day and see what's out because

1042
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 6: if you vote a month or two early, you're just missing.

1043
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: Something well you know what, And that brings up a

1044
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: good point. You're right about that. But on the other hand,

1045
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: everybody's saying that within the Republican leadership that hey, you know,

1046
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: vote early, vote early, vote early, and we can bank

1047
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: those votes. So last two elections because of that, I've

1048
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: voted early. But I know what you're saying. I mean,

1049
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: you vote a month early and the candidate that you

1050
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: voted for implode, You're screwed. I know what you're saying.

1051
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, I always take half a day

1052
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 6: off go vote. They can go get breakfast somewhere.

1053
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: But not everyone can do that, I know.

1054
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: And you know what, I loved and still loved because

1055
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: it was just the off year election just a few

1056
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: months ago. I loved going to the polling place to vote.

1057
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, you do it, and you think, man, I'm

1058
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: proud to be and lucky to be an American. I

1059
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: like it. I wish they'd get rid of it, but

1060
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: they have to get rid of it. Across the board,

1061
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's going to happen the way

1062
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: it used to be. It used to be the only

1063
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: people that could vote early were sick people in the

1064
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: hospital and veterans who lived where the election was but

1065
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: were stationed somewhere else. And they've just expanded it way

1066
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: too much in my opinion.

1067
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm a few years younger than you are,

1068
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 6: but you know, our parents drug us to the polling place.

1069
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: Cool yep.

1070
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: And there used to be a thing called kids voting.

1071
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago. It was kind of a

1072
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: charitable civic organization that he had little voting boosts. When

1073
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, you go vote, the kid does too, to

1074
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: acclimate them to you know, what it's like to go vote.

1075
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I don't know what happened

1076
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: to it, but I really wish we could go back

1077
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: to just the old way.

1078
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 17: All right.

1079
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 6: Well, if I don't see you, I'll you happy New Year.

1080
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: Be good, Okay, you too, Barry, Thank you very much.

1081
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,479
Speaker 1: You know, he does bring up a really good point

1082
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: about the early voting. I mean, you know, I don't

1083
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: know what it is in Ohio. I think it's about

1084
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: a month before maybe even more than that you are

1085
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: kind of taking a chance casting your vote then. But again,

1086
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: the people that I respect politically, Alex Trantapeel you being

1087
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: the main one, say that it's in the party and

1088
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: the candidate's best interest to vote early. I don't know.

1089
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll change someday, hopefully. Hey we got doctor Dennis

1090
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: in Annapolis. Doc, how are you doing?

1091
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 3: Hey, Mike carried doing New Year?

1092
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: You too?

1093
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1094
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 9: Two quick comments. One, I hated with the leftists when

1095
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 9: they discuss you know, when they get the immigrants, they

1096
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 9: conflate naturalized citizens with the illegals. Yeah, used to they

1097
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 9: used to say undocumented, but they think they've now since

1098
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 9: dropped the undocumented, and and you know for the naive

1099
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 9: out there, uh, that it makes for a lot of confusion. Yeah,

1100
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 9: they're talking about when liberals left just talk about the immigrants.

1101
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 9: They're talking about the illegals, but they won't say illegal, and

1102
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 9: they will.

1103
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: We will. But you're right, I'm looking at a thing here, doc.

1104
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1105
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: I had to google something and I've been using AI.

1106
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: It was about an ice agent. It is horrible. I

1107
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: just saw the video of it shot and injured by

1108
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: what they referred to as an undocumented man.

1109
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 4: Uh in Maryland.

1110
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: So the media sometimes uses it.

1111
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they do, but I've noticed that they've since

1112
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 9: dropped the undocumented part.

1113
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1114
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's their their ongoing effort to doctor our language.

1115
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: Yep, no question about it.

1116
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1117
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 9: The one other quick comment is, uh, I'm Catholic, but

1118
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 9: but I have the they it's kind of almost hypocritical.

1119
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 9: The these Catholic charities where for a long time facilitating

1120
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 9: the illegals entry into the country.

1121
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

1122
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: You know, people were donating that.

1123
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 9: It sounds all good and everything to donate the Catholic charities,

1124
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 9: but they were funneling money to these organizations that would

1125
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 9: go down to the border and uh and house and

1126
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 9: facilitate the illegal sentry into the country, violating the law.

1127
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: I read about that, and you know, I mean, if

1128
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: I were Catholic, and I am, I don't go to

1129
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: the camp or church mass anymore. I go to a

1130
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: different service, but I would sure drill down on that

1131
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: to see if that's where it goes. And there's a

1132
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: lot of good about the Camp of Church. But yeah, yeah,

1133
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: if they're if they're involved in that, then shame on them.

1134
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 3: But they are.

1135
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: I gotta move on though. Doctors Mike Okay, thanks for

1136
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, an undocumented man. That's what AI refers

1137
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: to this guy as I don't know. You know, some

1138
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: say what's in a name, But I think it's important.

1139
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out it's more than

1140
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: not having documents, it's trespassing into our country. Hey, we

1141
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: got just about a minute. Let's talk to Bobby. Hey, Bobby,

1142
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. I'm sorry, I can only give you

1143
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: about a minute.

1144
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 17: That's all I need. My brother, I want to tell

1145
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 17: you we sure appreciate you holding that torture freedom up

1146
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 17: high and bright every day because I think twenty twenty

1147
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 17: six is going to becoming dark outside.

1148
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. It really is.

1149
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's looking like you never know, it's way early,

1150
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: but might be JD. Van's boy, I could certainly live

1151
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: with that. We've got to continue with Trump started.

1152
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 17: We've got a plan for the future, my friends, and

1153
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 17: go ahead and crush these left wing Marxists before it's

1154
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 17: too late, because they will be on the streets come

1155
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 17: this summertime. I guarantee you.

1156
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: Everything seems to be trending towards that. I just hope

1157
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: people in this country are vigilant, and I don't know.

1158
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not real optimistic about the future.

1159
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 3: Bobby.

1160
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: I probably should be, but I'm not. But hey, anyway,

1161
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: I do have to get out of here for the news,

1162
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: but I appreciate the corank you. Okay, thanks Bobby. Yeah,

1163
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: we got to break here for the news. But when

1164
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk to FOP President

1165
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: Ken Kober. Lots going on in the law enforcement department,

1166
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: and then I want to tell those that are on

1167
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: hold now from eleven thirty to noon, when I get

1168
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: out of here, open lines four nine, seven thousand, one,

1169
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen,

1170
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen with

1171
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: hour three, third and final hour of Saturday Midday. Well,

1172
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what. The violence continues in the city

1173
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Fox nineteen reports that a mother and two

1174
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: children were shot on Christmas Day in the West End.

1175
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: Thankfully there they survived. They're okay. I think they're at

1176
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: the hospital. Arrested was some dude named Jadens Brown. He's

1177
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: fifty eight. He's charged with three counts of felonious assault.

1178
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Brown had been accused of assaulting in twenty twenty two

1179
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: the same woman he shot Christmas Day back in twenty

1180
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty two, again, he was accused of punching her in

1181
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: the face and throwing her to the ground. He has

1182
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: more than forty arrest dating to nineteen eighty. And here's

1183
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: the thing. Those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim

1184
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: did not continue with the investigation. Here to talk about

1185
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: this and a lot of other things, is FOP President

1186
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: Ken kober Ken, Thanks so much for calling in.

1187
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: Sure, Mike, thanks for having me.

1188
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: Hey, I know you want to talk about some other things.

1189
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: I do too, But that last sentence that I read,

1190
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: those cases were dismissed because the alleged victim did not

1191
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: continue with the investigation. That's not uncommon, is it, Ken

1192
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: Cober No.

1193
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: Not at all. Yeah, Unfortunately, it is all too common.

1194
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 4: And there's usually a couple of reasons why those things happen.

1195
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: Is you have a victim that decides that, you know,

1196
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 4: for whatever reason they don't want to prosecute, show up

1197
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: the court, or and what we've seen several times is

1198
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 4: they'll show up the court and it gets continued once place,

1199
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: three times, four times and finally they go listen, I'm

1200
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: not going to see justice. I'm done, and they just

1201
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 4: could come into court. And that is the unfortunate part

1202
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 4: that happens way too often in here in Hamilton County.

1203
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: It does, and probably other counties. But I know for

1204
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: a fact, because I mean I've dealt with it from

1205
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: every angle that it happens. And you know, someday somebody

1206
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: is going to do some kind of study as to

1207
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: the cost to the criminal justice system for that. But

1208
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there at this point. Elwood Jones,

1209
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: you made a very very strong statement Ken when he

1210
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: was arrested for ov I by your officers CPD officers.

1211
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: It's just your thoughts in general about that. That whole

1212
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: situation with.

1213
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: Him, well, you know, quite honestly, never should have happened. Yeah,

1214
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 4: you hit somebody, excuse me, you know, because of a technicality,

1215
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 4: uh you know, gets let out. You know, it goes

1216
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 4: to the Ohio Supreme Court, and the High Supreme Court says, no,

1217
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: this needs to go back to the lower court and

1218
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 4: be given a look at. And and instead, unfortunately, you know,

1219
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: we have a prosecutor that decided no, you know, not

1220
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 4: going to do this. No one saw justice in this.

1221
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: You know, I feel for the family. I feel for

1222
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: the officers that that were there had to deal with

1223
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 4: these things. But not only that, it's the impact that

1224
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: it's having on officers that are wearing this uniform today

1225
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 4: that are seeing this. But this is this is just

1226
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 4: kind of you know, the final thing for twenty twenty

1227
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: five that we've seen that officers are so frustrated with,

1228
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:28,520
Speaker 4: whether it's low bail, no bail, you know, these light sentences.

1229
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: You people with gun charges that are being convicted, that

1230
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: are being put on probation just to go out reoffend.

1231
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 4: This is just it's it's a terrible, terrible thing that happened.

1232
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 4: You'll you'll never convince me that that he did not

1233
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 4: murder this woman when you look at the totality of

1234
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: the evidence. You look at Joe Deaters and Mark Pete Meyer,

1235
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: I mean, two guys that have given their adult lives

1236
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: to public service, to protecting Hamilton County. It's just it's

1237
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: a sad, sad thing that went on.

1238
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: It really is, and it's a kind of a black

1239
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: eye for the criminal justice system. But you know, you

1240
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: throw into all those things that you talked about, you

1241
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: got the downtown beat down, which we haven't heard the

1242
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: last of that yet either on Four Street. I mean,

1243
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: the cops did everything that they were supposed to do

1244
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: from my vantage point, and that's what happens. I just

1245
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: hope we don't have another one of those.

1246
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's the unfortunate part is it's what

1247
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 4: we're seeing, which is people are playing Hamilton County. And

1248
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that the SOP fought

1249
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 4: for was residency so officers didn't have to live in

1250
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 4: Hamilton County if they don't want to. And as soon

1251
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: as that passed and both put in our contract where

1252
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 4: you could live in counties outside of Hamilton County. You

1253
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 4: can live in Indiana, you can live in Kentucky. Price

1254
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: begin fleeing because they see what's going on. They get

1255
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: a front row seat to what the justice systems like

1256
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: in Hamilton County. They go, you know what, I'm not

1257
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 4: raising my family here, and I don't blame them.

1258
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: You know what, I knew that residency was relaxed. Didn't

1259
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: know that you can go to other states.

1260
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: Now.

1261
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm glad for that for the officers, but you know,

1262
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: it kind of speaks volumes, doesn't it. When the city

1263
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: that they're policing in is a place they don't want

1264
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: to raise their family. I think that speaks volumes.

1265
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it absolutely does. And that's sad because this county,

1266
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up here in my entire life,

1267
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 4: has so much to offer. I know, when we're seeing judges,

1268
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: you know, like Kurt Kissinger Josh Bukwitz, who are not

1269
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 4: being re elected that are law in order, they're fair,

1270
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 4: but they're firm judges, and people in this county are saying,

1271
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, we don't want them judges. We don't want

1272
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 4: judges like that to be here in Hamilton County. It

1273
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 4: just speaks volumes, and that's why officers that see it

1274
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: firsthand are going, Nope, I'm out, And I don't blame

1275
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 4: them a bit. That's interesting.

1276
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about this, the Chief Fiji

1277
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: witch hunt and witch hunt is probably too kind of

1278
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: a term for it. Do you know what the status

1279
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: that is? I mean, it was turned over to a

1280
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: law firm, and really I don't even remember who the

1281
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: law firm was, doesn't matter. It just kind of seems

1282
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: to me like, okay, law firm, you better find something here.

1283
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: What's the status of that?

1284
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 4: Ken if you know, well, my understanding is it's the

1285
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: law firms Frost, Brown and Todd. Okay, they've interviewed approximately

1286
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 4: I don't know roughly. I think thirty officers trying to

1287
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 4: find out, you know, if there's something that they can

1288
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 4: they could try to use to have just cause to

1289
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 4: fire Chief Diji. My understanding is, I think the contract

1290
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 4: only runs to the end of the year, so we

1291
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 4: may hear something soon. But I mean that's the impact

1292
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 4: that even that has had on the cincinnat Police Department.

1293
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 4: You know, where there's uncertainty. Don't get me wrong. Interim

1294
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: chief Henny has stepped in has done an absolute remarkable job.

1295
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 4: But anytime you have an interim chief, and unfortunately I've

1296
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 4: seen it several times in my career, there's uncertainty. It's hey,

1297
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: it's how long is he going to how long is

1298
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 4: he going to be in this position? You know what,

1299
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 4: what's going to happen? What's our future going to look like.

1300
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 4: It's not fair to police officers, it's not fair to

1301
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 4: the residents of Cincinnati. And you're absolutely right, the way

1302
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 4: Chief Fiji has been treated is just this is nothing

1303
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 4: but a witch hunt, is you know, I've described it

1304
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: as you know, they're they're going to make an arrest

1305
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 4: and then they're going to decide what the crime is afterwards. Well,

1306
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 4: he's not how these things work, but that's what's going on.

1307
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to happen that way. You're absolutely right

1308
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: about that. And you know you don't. You don't hire

1309
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: a law firm to find something wrong with a police

1310
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: chief who has a stellar record. It makes no sense

1311
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: to me, but I guess it does. When you're talking

1312
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: about Plumb Street down there. I know you're not well,

1313
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: you are political, but you gotta kind of be a

1314
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: walk down the middle. But I don't think Ken we

1315
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: are ever going to see a Republican elected mayor in

1316
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: this city or even on city council. I was hoping

1317
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: so much that Christopher Smitheman would break through because he

1318
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: is definitely a friend of the cops. But man, it's

1319
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: and it's getting tough in Hamilton County too.

1320
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 4: It's a shame, no, you know, without a doubt. And

1321
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 4: we saw it. I mean we saw that the City

1322
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati they have no interest in having any kind

1323
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 4: of you know, conservative on council. They don't certainly don't

1324
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 4: want to conservative as the mayor, and that's a decision

1325
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 4: they made. The city has to you just have to

1326
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 4: live with it. And it's the same way in Hamilton County.

1327
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, I mean, it's there. There is no

1328
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 4: more law and order, tough on crime. You know, judges left.

1329
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think so far, Connie Tillis hasn't

1330
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 4: done a bad job. But when you get to this,

1331
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 4: Elwood Jonas saying, I think she just she dropped the

1332
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 4: ball on this one for whatever reason. And it's like,

1333
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 4: you know, had we had you know, Melissa Powers there,

1334
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: that this would have been a much different scenario. But

1335
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: the reality is, this is what we have to live with.

1336
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 4: If you're a resident Hamilton County, if you're a police

1337
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: officer in Hamilton County, this is just what you're going

1338
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: to have to deal with. And that's why you're also

1339
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: seeing officers that are leaving, and they're not leaving for

1340
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 4: other departments in Hamilton County. They're going to other agencies

1341
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 4: in Claremont County, Warren County, Butler County, just to get

1342
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 4: away from this justice system as a whole.

1343
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day when I was involved

1344
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: in law enforcement and CPD, it was exactly the opposite.

1345
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: Ken When openings came up for CPD, people from the

1346
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: county would come in droves taking the test because they

1347
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be Cincinnati cops. But as you just said,

1348
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: it's just completely turned on its head.

1349
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, well, perfect example. You know, we had, we

1350
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 4: fought for and were able to get the city to

1351
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 4: approve a lateral class of thirty officers. Yes, that class

1352
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: is going to start here in about six weeks, six

1353
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: to eight weeks. Seven people. Oh man, we have seven

1354
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 4: a class, a lateral class of seven officers. Now, don't

1355
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 4: get me wrong, I'm come happy to have those seven

1356
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 4: that we got.

1357
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1358
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they authorized thirty and all we could get

1359
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: was seven.

1360
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Isn't that something? I'll tell you what, And I probably

1361
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 1: said this a million times, but in my wildest dreams,

1362
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: I never thought that would happen. When I took the

1363
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: test for the cadet program back in seventy four, and

1364
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: then you know, when we got laid off from CPD

1365
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, we had to test again. It was

1366
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: down at the Convention Center. There were thousands of people there.

1367
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it was an unbelievable and for it to

1368
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: change that much. I just think it speaks volumes of

1369
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: what the situation is with law enforcement now and it's

1370
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: just a shame that that happens. But hey, let me

1371
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: switch gear and said, I you want to talk about

1372
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: some other things, but before we do that, I want

1373
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: to backtrack a little bit. Issue five. I'm sure you

1374
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: remember Chief Striker, very very strong chief. I think part

1375
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: of the reason why he would be a strong chief

1376
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: was because he had civil service protection. You and I

1377
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: talked about this, Ken, I think not too long ago.

1378
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: Uh is the FOP and hopefully there'll be others that

1379
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: are interested in bringing this back to the ballot to

1380
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: try to reverse it. I know it would be an

1381
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: uphill battle, but if we had that now, that protection,

1382
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Chief Fiji would be in the jam

1383
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: she's in.

1384
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right, and that is something that is

1385
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 4: being worked on. It's of course in its infancy of

1386
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 4: trying to trying to figure out, you know, to get

1387
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 4: the language, to get all these things that we can

1388
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 4: so we can prepare this. But we are absolutely going

1389
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 4: to be working on this. And you're absolutely right. You know,

1390
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 4: if if we had a chief that was under you know,

1391
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 4: civil service under our collective bargaining agreement, we wouldn't be

1392
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: in this position. And that's that's one of the things

1393
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 4: now that I've said, you know, with with interim Chief Henny,

1394
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 4: he's in a fantastic position right now. He can go

1395
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 4: and make whatever changes he wants and he can do

1396
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 4: it without fear of being terminated, because the worst that

1397
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 4: he can possibly do is get demoted back to his

1398
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: assistant chiefs position, where chiefs didn't She didn't have that protection.

1399
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,480
Speaker 1: You know what I forgot about that? Yeah, that's interesting.

1400
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's something that we are certainly going to

1401
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 4: figure out how we can get this change. That way,

1402
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,440
Speaker 4: we can have a police chief that can make decisions

1403
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 4: without fear of city Hall saying no, we're not going

1404
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 4: to do this, and if you do well, we're going

1405
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: to find a way to get rid of you. And

1406
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: that's unfortunately why we are where we are.

1407
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, when this

1408
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: is all over with, they're going to have to back

1409
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: the brinks truck up to city Hall to get the

1410
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: settlement that she gets. And I know she'd rather have

1411
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: her job back, but they did her wrong, and they

1412
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: did her dirty. That's all there is to it. Last question,

1413
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: I have contract negotiations coming up twenty six. Your thoughts

1414
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: on that, I know you'll be in there fighting for

1415
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: your officers. Anything in particular about that that is unusual.

1416
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: Well, you know, unfortunately, you know, three years ago when

1417
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 4: we negotiated, you know, we were one hundred and fifty

1418
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty officer short. And don't get me wrong,

1419
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 4: the city has made the financial commitment to have these classes.

1420
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 4: The problem is we can't get people that want to

1421
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 4: do this job.

1422
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: I can, It's hard.

1423
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of it.

1424
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: Is is still a lot of it. You know, are

1425
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 4: some political decisions that have been made, like said you

1426
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: talk about the fourth and Element incident, this this stuff

1427
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 4: with Elwa Jones, that is just keeping people from wanting

1428
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 4: to be law enforcement in general. But yeah, as we

1429
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 4: go in to these negotiations, we're still going to be

1430
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty hundred and fifty officer short. It's

1431
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: it's really really going to be interesting to see, you know,

1432
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 4: how this plays out, because you're you're going to have

1433
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: to continue to give officers quality raises and hopes that

1434
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, people are going to say, you know what,

1435
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm willing to put up with the justice system. I'm

1436
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 4: willing to put up with these things knowing that at

1437
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 4: least I'm making a wage that I can take care

1438
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: of my family.

1439
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let me ask you question. You said

1440
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty officers.

1441
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: I guess it's fair to say, based on what you

1442
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: said and based on reality, they're not filled because they

1443
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: can't find anybody to fill them. Is that accurate?

1444
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1445
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like I said, we're seeing it where you much

1446
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 4: like when I took the test, you know, to be

1447
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 4: able to be hired as a Sin Saint police officer,

1448
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 4: thousands of people. I was just telling you at the

1449
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 4: convention center, thousands of people there, and you know, out

1450
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 4: of those thousands of people, they would whittle it down

1451
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: to two classes of fifty about a three or four

1452
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 4: thousand people, they would select one hundred. So you saw

1453
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 4: it was the top, you know, one hundred out of

1454
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 4: four thousand. Now if we get four hundred people to

1455
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 4: take the test, we're lucky and they're going to fill

1456
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: a class one class of fifty. So they keep on

1457
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 4: having more tests. Where I said, you used to get

1458
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 4: two classes off each test, now you get one and

1459
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 4: like I said, you're you're getting fifty out of out

1460
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 4: of four hundred people. And well, once you get past

1461
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 4: the written test and get into you know, the psychological

1462
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 4: and some of these other things, it gets whittled down

1463
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 4: to and if we get fifty, we're lucky.

1464
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: You know what. And you can't just hire at willy

1465
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: nilly because you don't know what the hell you're getting.

1466
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: It's a shame. Well, keep us posted, Ken, and we'll

1467
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: check in with you again. But I appreciate you calling.

1468
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: In absolutely Thanks for having me, Mike.

1469
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 1: Okay, my pleasure.

1470
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 3: All right.

1471
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: That was Ken Cober FOP president. Boy, he is turning

1472
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: into one great FOP president. CPD has been blessed the

1473
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: men and women of CPD with strong leadership in their

1474
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: FOP presidents. And that is just so important. You have

1475
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: to have that. You have to have that. I'm almost independent.

1476
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Ken still a police officer, but he's allowed

1477
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: to advocate for his men and women and he does

1478
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: a great job of it. Hey, we got to take

1479
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: a break. Butt when we get back, we're going to

1480
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: go back to the calls. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, eleven

1481
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine, News Radio seven hundred ww Mike callendar closing

1482
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: minutes of Saturday midday and as promised, I'm going to

1483
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: the Pones. Tanya has been holding on forever. Hello Tanya,

1484
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you holding. I'm good. I'm good, but you go.

1485
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 18: Christmas to you you too, Thank you, sir. I was

1486
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 18: calling just to put my two cents in on the

1487
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 18: Elwood Jones case. Yeah, okay, just a quick background. I'm

1488
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 18: I'm all for Trump. I'm all for this administration. I've

1489
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 18: been to prison myself. I was engaged to a man

1490
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 18: on death row twenty five years ago from Missouri. I've

1491
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 18: been married three times. See my personal opinion from my

1492
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 18: life experiences, is them using this hepatitis B as a

1493
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 18: reason to let this murderer go. I believe it's false

1494
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 18: because my first husband had hepatitis B. I did all

1495
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 18: the normal things that you would do with a husband.

1496
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 18: I even brushed my teeth with his toothbrush twenty.

1497
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 17: Five years ago.

1498
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 18: I also had another significant other who had hepatitis B.

1499
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 18: I never contracted it, you know, yet they did not

1500
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 18: have it.

1501
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I haven't looked when I was prosecutor

1502
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: just very peripherally involved in it and some of the

1503
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: appeals and things like that, so I'm not really privy

1504
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: to all the facts. I do know this though, Mark

1505
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: Pete Meyer, who I know. We served in the Army

1506
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: Reserve together. He was in the prosecutor's office when I

1507
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: was prosecutor. There's nobody better in this town on these

1508
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of things, and from what I understand, he was

1509
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: a little bit more than honked off about what happened.

1510
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Because I can't tell you this Ella Jones was a big,

1511
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: big case that meant a lot to a lot of people,

1512
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: especially the victim family. But it's just a it's a

1513
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,839
Speaker 1: sad situation. And you know the other thing about it too, Tanya,

1514
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get a pretty good payday out of

1515
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: this too, And that's what's wrong. I mean, it's all wrong,

1516
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: but that especially he doesn't deserve.

1517
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 18: It, especially especially whenever it's coming out of taxpayers. First,

1518
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 18: we had to pay for him to sit in prison

1519
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 18: all these years, we had to pay for his original

1520
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 18: case to get put on death brow, we've had to

1521
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 18: pay for all of his appeals, and now we're going

1522
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 18: to have to give him probably a good million dollars

1523
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 18: or more. Yep, and he's out here already within two

1524
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 18: weeks committing prime even though it's a traffic case.

1525
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: But what's to come next?

1526
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you know that he would be when you think

1527
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: you do all that time, and granted he got let out,

1528
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think he'd be a little bit careful about it?

1529
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 18: I mean, I mean you would think, especially at his age,

1530
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 18: that you would be blessed by God and would wouldn't

1531
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 18: come home and actually live and be free for a while.

1532
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 18: You would think. But I want I wanted to run

1533
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 18: this by you real quick because I've been trying to

1534
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 18: get the world to know this for five years. No

1535
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 18: one wants to talk about it. I've tried the governor

1536
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 18: short of the president. I've tried d H d OJ,

1537
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 18: Homeland Security Central Office, with the Ohio prison system, the governor,

1538
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 18: all representatives. I've tried to get this message out. I've

1539
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 18: tried news stations. No one wants to get it out.

1540
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 18: With the gentleman that was murdered down here in Cincinnati

1541
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 18: who owned the gym.

1542
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1543
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 18: That situation as well as there was an officer in

1544
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 18: Ross Correctional Center last year who was murdered on Christmas Day.

1545
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 18: What no one wants to tell people is that the

1546
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 18: Ohio prison system right now is so flooded with a

1547
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 18: drug called tone.

1548
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: What's the I'm sorry, what was It's called tone?

1549
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 18: They call it tune like cartoons.

1550
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 4: Okay, because these guys.

1551
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 18: Act like cartoons. They hallucinate. They My husband is currently

1552
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 18: in prison right now. He's been in prison for eleven years.

1553
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 18: He's been in Warren, Lucas, Phille Rock right now, he's

1554
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 18: currently in Mansfield. Every single prison he's been in, and

1555
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 18: all the people that I've talked to, investigators, Warden's people

1556
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 18: in Central Office, all of them will tell you ninety

1557
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 18: five percent of the Ohio prison population right now.

1558
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Is addicted to this drug. You know what.

1559
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 18: They will also tell you what they've told me. There's

1560
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 18: nothing they can do about it, except for they just

1561
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 18: spent sixty thousand dollars of our taxpayer dollars to put

1562
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 18: sixteen leather couches in my husband's unit five sixty five

1563
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 18: inch screen TVs out of our taxpayer dollars. But they

1564
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 18: won't take our taxpayer dollars and put body scans in

1565
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 18: these prisons.

1566
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: I don't mean you, but I think you probably would

1567
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: know better than anyone that Department of Rehabilitations and Corrections

1568
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: is screwed up in so many different ways. But let

1569
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: me say this too, and I don't need details, I

1570
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: don't want them. I would just like to commend you

1571
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: for doing what you're doing. Are you familiar with the

1572
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: concept of re entry. I'm sure you are, absolutely Yeah,

1573
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: And your exhibit a as to how it works and how

1574
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: it can help people have to have that coming out

1575
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: of prison. I mean the way it used to be.

1576
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: They walk out of the prison and boom, that's it.

1577
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: The concept of re entry is usually about one hundred

1578
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: eighty eight days. You have one hundred eighty aays half

1579
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: a year left on your sentence. Yeah, you start lining

1580
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: up services for them, try to find them a job.

1581
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: But anyway, I feel very very strongly about that, and

1582
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I just wanted to commend you well.

1583
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

1584
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 18: And one of the major problems with the re entry

1585
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 18: programs is is that most of the halfway houses that

1586
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 18: they have, yeah, are in are in.

1587
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 13: Drug infested areas.

1588
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 18: And I've been to a halfway house when I first

1589
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 18: got out of prison. The first time they sit me

1590
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 18: on a pilot program to the Tavern House down on

1591
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 18: Queen City. We were able to get drugs in their

1592
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,440
Speaker 18: cigarettes in there, We were able to sneak.

1593
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 13: Off, we were able to do whatever.

1594
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 18: The people that actually run the places, I mean, I'm

1595
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 18: just gonna be honest, a lot of them. The woman

1596
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 18: that ran ours her husband was a drug dealer.

1597
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what. And it's tough out there,

1598
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: but again, I commend you. I got a bunch of

1599
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: calls here, Tony, I gotta get going, and I just

1600
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: run this.

1601
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 18: By you real quick because it's a person and I

1602
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 18: know the world's listening, and I need.

1603
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 4: The world to know.

1604
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 18: Sure, a lot of these guys that are coming home,

1605
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 18: that are committing these murders have been addicted to this

1606
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 18: drug called tone.

1607
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up.

1608
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 12: Please do.

1609
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 18: It's all over YouTube. You can see how they act

1610
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 18: and what they do they don't understand. Like the guy downtown,

1611
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 18: it would have been a better chance if they do

1612
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 18: something with the drug epidemic in prison, that that man

1613
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 18: might not have got murdered. He was addicted to drugs

1614
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 18: when he got released, just like Elwood Jones. Even though

1615
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 18: he was on death he had access to tomb and

1616
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 18: ninety five percent the chance that he was addicted to it,

1617
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,919
Speaker 18: and he's been released out here to our society.

1618
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to check into it. I've not never heard

1619
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: of it, but I want to learn about it.

1620
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 4: But thank you for the appreciate Mike.

1621
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 18: Thank you.

1622
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 1: You have a good day, you too, Yeah, you know what.

1623
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: That one went a little longer. But again, I spent

1624
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, Thank god, I'm retired, uh doing

1625
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: criminal defense work, which is hard, hard, hard if you

1626
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: take the job seriously. And there are so few success

1627
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: stories in the criminal justice system that I think you

1628
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: got to highlight them when you get them. Anyway, who's

1629
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: been waiting the longest?

1630
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 4: Here?

1631
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 1: How's about wreck in Dallas?

1632
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 3: Hey? Rick? You doing? I was going to tell what

1633
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: that lady was saying. I heard.

1634
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: I heard there's a new drug that's more a thousand

1635
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: times more powerful than federal What is it about?

1636
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 3: I have as only that I don't know what the

1637
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 3: name of it is.

1638
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: I don't like that I heard something about it. I

1639
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't look into it, though. Jeez, that's all we need.

1640
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 3: It's a thousand times of pomps and stuff.

1641
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Oh did you ever meet uh, you know, trouble since

1642
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: thirty police chiefs, they had it. You guys haven't had

1643
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: a decent chiefs of Stanley Shrotale.

1644
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,959
Speaker 3: Did you ever meet that tele Shutel?

1645
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: No, he was way before my time, but I think

1646
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 1: we've had some good ones too. Tom Striker comes to mind,

1647
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 1: Larry Well and boy he was a tough chief. But again,

1648
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: like I was talking to Ken Kober, they could do

1649
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: that because they had civil service protection. Since two thousand

1650
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: with Issue five, they don't have that anymore, so they

1651
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,480
Speaker 1: kind of like moved around the chessboard by the politicians

1652
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: and that ain't right.

1653
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Showtel was is such a man across the country.

1654
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, you know he made the cover

1655
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 2: of like Look magazine or something.

1656
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I do know that. I think it was life. I've

1657
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 1: seen it before. Uh yeah, he was very very very

1658
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: well respected. But hey, I got I got to get

1659
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: a couple more calls in.

1660
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: Here, Rick, Okay, you hear about that. There's another arish

1661
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,480
Speaker 2: between whether there's a skirmish developed between Cambodia and Thailand.

1662
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Now that is insanity.

1663
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: What did you say developed between them? I'm sorry? Can

1664
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: you can you.

1665
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 3: Tell me that the war start between Cambodia?

1666
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1667
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 3: I mean what in the hell is going on?

1668
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: You got me? Uh And my brother lived in Thailand

1669
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: for I think about five or six years. He was

1670
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: working over there, and apparently they don't They just don't

1671
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: get along over there. The Vietnamese uh are they don't

1672
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: like Thailand. So I don't know what they got going

1673
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,839
Speaker 1: on over there. It used to be a very strong

1674
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: uh royalty situation, but I don't know that that's the

1675
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: case anymore. But I appreciate you bringing it up. Okay,

1676
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I did hear about that, And boy,

1677
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, I want to over and visit my brother

1678
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: oom in Thailand. That flight was brutal. But parts of

1679
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: the country are beautiful, other parts not so much. I

1680
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: don't think they have any zoning because you could have

1681
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: a luxury hotel and a corrugated metal shack next to it.

1682
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: But well, i'll tell you what, it's big and there

1683
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,719
Speaker 1: are a ton of people. Hey, let's talk to Louise

1684
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 1: in Marino. Hey, Louise, Hi, Mike, I'll make this quick.

1685
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 12: I know you run short of time, and I'm reverting

1686
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 12: back to the original topic.

1687
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay soon, Tim Wallas, Oh, yeah.

1688
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 12: Because I don't know about you, Mike, but I never

1689
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 12: even heard of him till that bird brand Kamela selected

1690
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 12: him as VP, and I'm wondering, what't you think with

1691
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 12: that process that they would have been vetting and this

1692
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 12: whole big scandal should have arose. And the question is

1693
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 12: did Caamela know or not? I know she's not a genius.

1694
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 12: I know she doesn't vet very well because she should

1695
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 12: have betted that scumble husband of hers, which evidently she didn't,

1696
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 12: or who would why would she? But the question is

1697
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 12: did how much did Kamela know about the scandal associated

1698
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 12: with that governor? And then she goes on to say

1699
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 12: why she didn't pick these other ones? Can you imagine

1700
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 12: Micah for Republicans, candidate said, I didn't pick so and

1701
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 12: so he was Jewish. I didn't pick so and so

1702
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 12: he was gay.

1703
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And you know what, people think I'm crazy, but

1704
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I bought her book and all that

1705
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: stuff comes out in the book. I mean, I hate

1706
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: to give her any money, but I figured i'd read

1707
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: it so you all don't have to. I have asked

1708
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the question that you asked from day one. You know,

1709
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,799
Speaker 1: when you're want to be vice president of the United States,

1710
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 1: the presidential candidate is supposed to do a thorough, thorough,

1711
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 1: thorough vetting, and that obvious, well, I want to say

1712
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: it obviously didn't happen. Maybe it did and she just

1713
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: didn't care. That's how stupid she is. You remember when

1714
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 1: George W. Or not George W. George H. W. Bush

1715
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: picked dan Quail. Apparently he and I liked that, I

1716
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: did any problem with him, But apparently he wasn't vetted

1717
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: very strongly either. That is that shows that she's got

1718
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: a messed up campaign where she's messed up in the

1719
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: mind because how could they not have known about the

1720
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: time bomb in Minnesota?

1721
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 9: Ry?

1722
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 12: Why would they picked up the food? No one ever

1723
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 12: heard of them?

1724
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: I know, I did. You know I didn't.

1725
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 12: Well, she's not the brightest thing around. And you know

1726
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 12: the funniest thing, Mike, I'll cut, I'll make this.

1727
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 7: Short, but it's not.

1728
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 12: I was watching something and she's on there giving dating advice.

1729
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 17: I know that.

1730
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 12: And the one thing she didn't say is make sure

1731
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 12: you sleep with the married man to help your career started.

1732
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of talk about that. I

1733
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: saw that. I think it came out yesterday or the

1734
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: day before. It was hilarious and guess what, it didn't

1735
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: make any sense, which is not surprising, but it just

1736
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:03,839
Speaker 1: wasn't coherent. But yeah, a dating advisor, marriage counselor Kamala Harris,

1737
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: who would have thought, Micha.

1738
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 12: I'll let you go, Happy New Year, stay healthy.

1739
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Louise, I appreciate it. Yeah, you know,

1740
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: that is one of the big questions I've had since

1741
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: Jump when all this stuff was popping about Minnesota. I mean,

1742
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: you think about it. People had to know about that, uh,

1743
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: and you know, you usually hire a law firm or

1744
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: respected law firm, a firm that maybe has done this

1745
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: vetting before, and they just didn't. Apparently they didn't get

1746
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: a good one, good enough, because that's something that the

1747
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: candidate should have known.

1748
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 4: It just is.

1749
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: And she infers in the book. She doesn't come out

1750
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and say it. The situation with her VP pick I

1751
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of think she wanted the dude from Pennsylvania, Shapiro.

1752
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 1: But and what she said I wish I could remember verbatim.

1753
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, well that might create a

1754
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 1: political problem, which I read as hey, man, I can't

1755
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: take him. He's Jewish, and you know, I got all

1756
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: these anti semites in my party. I don't want to

1757
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: hank them off. And boy, if that's the case, that's sad.

1758
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: It's really sad. And you know she's still walking around

1759
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: appearing on shows, thinking that she's going to be a

1760
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: viable candidate in twenty twenty eight. I almost hope she

1761
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: runs again. Jack see she'll get killed. But anyway, that's

1762
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: just my two cents. Hey, we are out of time,

1763
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: but i just want to let you know again that

1764
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm in for Sloaney Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday of

1765
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: next week. So I'm looking forward to that. Mike Allen

1766
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

1767
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 19: Maybe you missed one of our shows because your Karate

1768
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 19: sinse has it in for you. Ouch, don't worry. You

1769
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 19: can get the podcast of our shows and here what

1770
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 19: you missed. Check them out on the Iheartrady your as