Speaker 1: Back on the Big One, seven hundred W l W
Speaker 1: twelve o eight on this beautiful Friday afternoon. A few
Speaker 1: showers moving through, but the sun is coming out in
Speaker 1: some places, and it is it feels like a spring
Speaker 1: day out there, Dan Carolyn for Bill Cunningham. So much
Speaker 1: going on in the city right now, and that's why
Speaker 1: I've asked Chris Smitheman to be here to weigh in
Speaker 1: on almost all. I don't know if we have enough
Speaker 1: time to cover all of it, but Chris Smith Bean,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely amazing all the wheels and all the
Speaker 1: irons that are in the fire right now as it
Speaker 1: relates to what's going on in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, And let's just be clear to your
Speaker 2: listening audience. You know, when you asked me to come
Speaker 2: on a lot of the stuff that we're talking about, whether.
Speaker 1: He yeah, happening. Yeah, it seems like it.
Speaker 2: It's really happenstance that.
Speaker 1: Was like that was like Monday and Tuesday this week,
Speaker 1: and it seems like all that stuff happened years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was the mayor who came
Speaker 1: out during his inauguration and told the people of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: has said, look, if you want public safety, we're gonna
Speaker 1: need you to dig a little bit deeper. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna need some more money for that. Since then,
Speaker 1: we've had people at city Hall complaining about the cameras
Speaker 1: that were supposed to be installed lights and cameras at
Speaker 1: a West End park where another eleven year old girl
Speaker 1: was killed. Charlie Luken is in the Inquiry today saying, hey,
Speaker 1: it's time to spend some of that money for the railroad.
Speaker 1: We've got reports now that the investigation into the police
Speaker 1: chief Teresa Thig has found absolutely nothing. So that's another
Speaker 1: multi million dollar settlement that was in the works. We
Speaker 1: had protesters on the streets of Cincinnati last night, maybe
Speaker 1: hoping to cash in like the those who are part
Speaker 1: of the eight point one million dollar settlement for those
Speaker 1: who were on the streets protesting and committing crimes during
Speaker 1: the George Floyd riots. And then Chris Smitheman last night,
Speaker 1: we have the specter of Ken Kober coming out and
Speaker 1: talking about an informant that he has a at City
Speaker 1: Hall has told him that the city manager, Cheryl Long
Speaker 1: is engaging in negotiations with the family of Rodney Hinton,
Speaker 1: and they want to engage in another multi million dollar
Speaker 1: settlement with the family of Rodney Hinton, of course, who
Speaker 1: was locked up right now claiming insanity for him driving
Speaker 1: over and mowing down Sheriff's deputy Larry Henderson. I mean
Speaker 1: the notion that, and we talked about this when the
Speaker 1: settlement came out. I said, the message has gone forth
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati the crime pays here and if we pay,
Speaker 1: if the city pays a multi million dollar settlement to
Speaker 1: the family of Rodney Hinton, are we doubling down on
Speaker 1: that message that Look, here's a guy who is going
Speaker 1: to stand trial for killing a law enforcement officer and
Speaker 1: his family is going to reap millions from the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I think we are first.
Speaker 2: My my condolences always go out, you know, and yours too.
Speaker 2: I'm sure when we have loss of life. So whether
Speaker 2: it's you know, what happened with the ice officer, what
Speaker 2: happened in the Hint and family, Hey, it's loss of life, life,
Speaker 2: and we're sensitive to the family. However, it does not
Speaker 2: take away the accountability that someone had an automobile trying
Speaker 2: to run over an ice agent and when you do that,
Speaker 2: that car becomes a weapon, and that means you can
Speaker 2: be shot and lose your life. The same scenario playing
Speaker 2: out when you have a gun, stolen vehicle running turn weapon.
Speaker 2: It is a it is a combination of disaster for
Speaker 2: that officer, and it was a justified shooting. And so
Speaker 2: I agree with you that my heart goes out for
Speaker 2: the family to the young man who made a series
Speaker 2: of terrible decisions. I pray that this city is not
Speaker 2: positioning itself. The problem with that prayer is I think
Speaker 2: the president is probably right, President Coober that that there
Speaker 2: are discussions for some type of settlement with the family,
Speaker 2: which really just doesn't make any sense. You had a
Speaker 2: litany of things that you asked me. The A point
Speaker 2: one million dollars of served should never have happened, you know,
Speaker 2: dealing with a chief Fiji, what a great police chief,
Speaker 2: a colonel. I worked with her as the former vice
Speaker 2: mayor chair of Law and Public Safety. It's not about
Speaker 2: always agreeing with the professional right. The point is how
Speaker 2: they treated her and their conduct absolutely unacceptable. And you
Speaker 2: are absolutely right there's going to be a huge settlement,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll, how they're treating how they treated Chief Washington,
Speaker 2: the fire chief. That's another big settlement that's coming. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be three to five million dollars
Speaker 2: for him and his termination. You know, the tax increase
Speaker 2: is not about police to your listening audience. This is
Speaker 2: about the operation of the street car. This is about
Speaker 2: them doing affordable housing. It's about all these other things.
Speaker 2: And what they're trying to use is use police officers
Speaker 2: to pit people like me who support law enforcement against
Speaker 2: them saying that they want to increase taxes. So when
Speaker 2: they make the move to increase taxes, and this is
Speaker 2: really important to detail, and they pass it emergency, they
Speaker 2: make it difficult for anyone to petition their government to
Speaker 2: say hey, I don't want you to taxes. So there
Speaker 2: are a lot of moves that they're trying to make.
Speaker 2: And on Monday, every member of Council has to vote
Speaker 2: their conscience. They do not have to vote for executive session.
Speaker 2: So there could be members of Council saying, hey, I
Speaker 2: think if we're actually in negotiations with the Hinton family,
Speaker 2: the taxpayers of Cincinnati deserve to know that. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, anybody who's paying taxes, those who live
Speaker 2: in the region who are working for proper gatable but
Speaker 2: lift somewhere else, but they're paying into the city's taxes.
Speaker 2: All of us should be able to be You should
Speaker 2: be able to Dan Carroll be able to hear that conversation.
Speaker 2: Members of Council should not go into executive session on
Speaker 2: Monday with the city manager to discuss this. You should
Speaker 2: be all in the public for everybody to hear.
Speaker 1: Very important, and it's not only the message that goes
Speaker 1: out to the public, but it's also the message that
Speaker 1: goes out to law enforcement, and not just Cincinnati police
Speaker 1: but Hamilton County Sriff's deputies. I mean, one of their
Speaker 1: own was killed in this incident. And when you talk about.
Speaker 2: My heart, let me let me let me let me
Speaker 2: stop you. I made a mistake. Let me know I
Speaker 2: made a mistake. Let me deeply extend my condolences. Also
Speaker 2: to the sheriff who was out there doing traffic control
Speaker 2: at a UC graduation and the father run him down
Speaker 2: in cold blood. I am so sorry for their lass.
Speaker 2: So I've apologize for interrupting you, but carry on on.
Speaker 1: I had Ken Coberan last night and he reached out
Speaker 1: and had the liaison from the Hamilton County sharaff deputy
Speaker 1: who was in that position immediately after this this incident happened,
Speaker 1: and he said, look, I need to tell the family
Speaker 1: this before this gets out in the public. And it
Speaker 1: just imagined the dismay of that family who thinks that,
Speaker 1: you know, we live in a society where you know,
Speaker 1: the only reason he was mowed down is because he
Speaker 1: had that uniform on and he was standing there doing
Speaker 1: his job, and for he had absolutely nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this, with this situation. And now this is this
Speaker 1: is an absolute disgrace. It's a slap in the face
Speaker 1: to law enforcement, to the Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy. And
Speaker 1: I would say, Chris smitheman to law enforcement all across
Speaker 1: the Tristate.
Speaker 2: Now I will agree with you. And let me say
Speaker 2: something pointed. We just had an election on November fourth
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, and voters voted for this mayor
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly and voted for this council overwhelmingly. We have fifty
Speaker 2: two neighborhoods and it didn't matter where you were except
Speaker 2: for Sailor Park, Saddamsville, parts of price Ville, parts of
Speaker 2: Westwood overwhelmingly voted for this. So elections have consequences. And
Speaker 2: for the twenty five percent or twenty three percent that
Speaker 2: showed up, right, So just for basic maths, we've got
Speaker 2: seventy five percent that didn't show up. And so those
Speaker 2: who are talking and didn't show up that were registered voters,
Speaker 2: they also are responsible for these outcomes. We've got to learn, man,
Speaker 2: that elections are serious, that you've got to show up
Speaker 2: and participate. Because I would say out of this day
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty thousand people that didn't vote, there's
Speaker 2: at least thirty or forty thousand of them that share
Speaker 2: the like minded that you and I have about law enforcement,
Speaker 2: but they didn't show up and participated in that local election.
Speaker 2: So I hope they don't do that in the midterm elections,
Speaker 2: which are incredibly important coming up in this November. We
Speaker 2: have a gubernatorial race. We've got Judge Winkler on the ballot,
Speaker 2: We've got Leah Dincin on the ballot in the Hamilton
Speaker 2: County Common Police Court. We've got some serious elections coming up,
Speaker 2: and I just hope voters come out. They're looking at
Speaker 2: these situations and they say, well, what do I need
Speaker 2: to do about it? You got to register your people
Speaker 2: to vote. My daughter's going off to college. I'm going
Speaker 2: to make sure she comes home to vote. You're not
Speaker 2: going to register where you're going to college, honey, You're
Speaker 2: coming home and you're participating on the home front. This
Speaker 2: is where you're going to cast or a vote in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and I'll be working and educating my
Speaker 2: daughter on how to vote in that election. We're not
Speaker 2: going down there voting for law. We're voting for law
Speaker 2: and order in our county, in our city. For those
Speaker 2: six thousand or seven thousand peace officers across the United
Speaker 2: States of America. Our military personnel got a son who
Speaker 2: just came home a year year and a half ago
Speaker 2: from serving four years in the military. It matters. And
Speaker 2: to see those National Guard members shot one kill other
Speaker 2: shot in the head. I understand that he's coming out
Speaker 2: of it, but he was almost murdered right in the street.
Speaker 2: To have people marching downtown, Dan Carroll for what occurred.
Speaker 2: They are disconnected from a person. Look, she tried to
Speaker 2: run down an ice officer. These are split second decisions
Speaker 2: that people are making. If you try to kill an
Speaker 2: officer and expect for them to defend their life, Dan Carroll,
Speaker 2: and I just don't understand why we're in this society
Speaker 2: where accountability is lost. I was a parent, you're a parent.
Speaker 2: I mean raising young children. The reality of it is,
Speaker 2: there used to be a time where the teacher would call, hey,
Speaker 2: your son or your daughter did this. I'm siding with
Speaker 2: the teacher and the administration right now. Man, We've got
Speaker 2: people showing up to the schools. They want no accountability
Speaker 2: for these accountability for these children, and we're seeing the
Speaker 2: results of it every day in our streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Chris, I don't know what they were
Speaker 1: channing on the streets of downtown Cincinnati last night, but
Speaker 1: I know there was a sizeable demonstration. There's some question
Speaker 1: about whether or not they had a permit in order
Speaker 1: to block streets the way they were doing. But in
Speaker 1: any case, in some of the other cities, I heard
Speaker 1: chanting where they were talking about how they openly support Hamas.
Speaker 1: They were talking about how Christina, the head of Homeland Security,
Speaker 1: must be taken out and hanged. They were talking about
Speaker 1: how ice officers must be killed. So these individuals who
Speaker 1: are on the streets of Cincinnati, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they were using that exact same chance, but they are
Speaker 1: of the same mindset, and they are in league with
Speaker 1: other individuals who are talking openly now about supporting terrorist
Speaker 1: organizations and calling for the execution of those who are
Speaker 1: doing nothing more than doing their job and exercising the
Speaker 1: policies and the laws that are in place in this country.
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of lesson is that for young
Speaker 1: people who are looking at this from the sidelines and saying,
Speaker 1: just because you have a disagreement with a policy of
Speaker 1: your government, is this the way you're supposed to go
Speaker 1: out and act? Is this the kind of the kind
Speaker 1: of action that you're supposed to be. It's one thing
Speaker 1: to go out and protest. I mean, look, First Amendment,
Speaker 1: protest all day long. But to call for executions and
Speaker 1: call for ICE agents to be killed, I think that
Speaker 1: might be crossing the line.
Speaker 2: It's insane. And you know what frustrates me. A eleven
Speaker 2: year old girl shot in the West End on a
Speaker 2: playground doing what she was supposed to do, being a
Speaker 2: little girl on a playground, murdered, no suspects, and the
Speaker 2: reality of it was city Hall in the mayor and
Speaker 2: the manager failed because they were asked to have cameras
Speaker 2: and lights in this area and failed to do it right.
Speaker 2: And so they're marching downtown for ice and for somebody
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't even know, right, but nobody's marching for
Speaker 2: that little girl. Nobody's marching and demanding black lives matter.
Speaker 2: The mural that's in front of city Hall. They seem
Speaker 2: to not care where it matters. We can't have the
Speaker 2: apathy where eleven year old girls are being slaughtered in
Speaker 2: our street and didn't see a march like this downtown
Speaker 2: with so much energy. And now one word said about
Speaker 2: that little girl who was murdered on that playground a
Speaker 2: week ago and nothing about that. See, that's the part.
Speaker 2: That's the disconnect that I have with the Democrats, right,
Speaker 2: They're always focused on the wrong thing. You're saying black
Speaker 2: lives matter. If that's what your positions are, I want
Speaker 2: to see it with your actions. Where was that march
Speaker 2: for that little girl, demanding from the community, whoever killed her?
Speaker 2: We want to catch you. We're gonna put money behind
Speaker 2: behind it. We're gonna find it. And by the way,
Speaker 2: hey mayor, hey members of council, you fail to have
Speaker 2: cameras there. The community asked you to have cameras there
Speaker 2: and you didn't the last point about the little girl
Speaker 2: who was murdered. The West End overwhelmingly voted for this
Speaker 2: mayor and this council. So, by the way, the elections
Speaker 2: have consequences, Dan Carroll, here's what I want to have happened.
Speaker 2: I want to see you get your own show. I
Speaker 2: want to be an advocate. I love hearing you on
Speaker 2: the radio right so the minute the people that are
Speaker 2: there who make the decision that seven hundred wow, we
Speaker 2: want to see Dan Carroll with more time. Who are
Speaker 2: who are? He's shocking the conscious. I'm did serious about this.
Speaker 2: We've got to have people on the radio who can
Speaker 2: speak directly to these kind of issues. And you're one
Speaker 2: of those guys that do what. I want to see
Speaker 2: you with your own show. Every day I turn my
Speaker 2: radio on and I can find and listen to common sense.
Speaker 1: Well, Chrismathervan, before I let you go, let me get
Speaker 1: your comments on what Charlie Luken had to say to
Speaker 1: the Inquirer this morning. You know that Charlie Luken's there
Speaker 1: and a nice picture of Charlie Luke. I mean he
Speaker 1: must be taking some bills or something, because this guy
Speaker 1: is not aging. He's looking at me. He's looking pretty good.
Speaker 1: One point six billion dollars. Chris Smitherman, You and I
Speaker 1: talked multiple times about this railroad settlement as it was
Speaker 1: progressing through. They've they passed it, they got it done.
Speaker 1: The money is starting to come in now and Charlie
Speaker 1: looking is saying, hey, you've got this money, it's time
Speaker 1: to spend it. He says, I'm driving around. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a roller coaster, right, I'm bumping and
Speaker 1: bouncing around all over the place, and he says, let's
Speaker 1: get some of this money spent. So how does this happen?
Speaker 1: How do politicians have a pot full of money but
Speaker 1: yet they're moving very slowly when it comes to spending
Speaker 1: that money.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I've got a lot of respect
Speaker 2: for Charlie Luken, a blue dog Democrat. It's hard to
Speaker 2: find him, right John Cramley, than the Charlie Lookan and
Speaker 2: the Tom Luken's that an age right, But the reality
Speaker 2: of it is is he's here's what, here's what Charlie
Speaker 2: is sitting the message. Charlie Lucan sits on that board
Speaker 2: or did sit on that board, and he's saying Listen,
Speaker 2: I have a brand. You put my reputation behind this, right,
Speaker 2: and I can see that you're being irresponsible. So this
Speaker 2: is a big step for him to come out in
Speaker 2: the public and say, listen, the money is here. This
Speaker 2: mayor and this council they don't have their act together
Speaker 2: to actually spend the money and make sure that we're
Speaker 2: fixing the potholes. Don't call me. The money is here,
Speaker 2: So he is, he is. He is signaling to all
Speaker 2: of us, hey, the money is here, but this mayor
Speaker 2: and this council, they don't have their act together. I
Speaker 2: believe Charlie Lucan, just like I believe Signal ninety nine,
Speaker 2: just like I believe President ken Kober that all the
Speaker 2: things that they're putting out in the public, that there's
Speaker 2: negotiation that's happening. There's going to be executive session on Monday.
Speaker 2: That's really real. The eight point one million that you
Speaker 2: talked about really did happen. The little girl was murdered.
Speaker 2: There is no response from that. Fiji is going to
Speaker 2: get matter of fact. Frost, Brown and Todd, if you're listening,
Speaker 2: thank you for having the integrity to say there's nothing
Speaker 2: here under the hood. I mean This is a woman
Speaker 2: that gave us thirty five years of her life. There
Speaker 2: is not one blemish in her dog, one record for Fiji.
Speaker 2: And absolutely they're going to pay her some millions of
Speaker 2: dollars for their reckless termination of her. Matter way, they're
Speaker 2: still paying her. They're still paying her right now. She's
Speaker 2: on the payroll. The question is going to be how
Speaker 2: are they going to deal with it? And Frost Brown
Speaker 2: and Todd, Dan Carroll couldn't find anything.
Speaker 1: They couldn't find one thing on it. Not a thing.
Speaker 1: We could do the whole three hours today about what's happening.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll be listening to your show. And
Speaker 2: what I hope people do is they call your show
Speaker 2: and engage. I love hearing from callers like giving us
Speaker 2: responses and feedback so I know I'm not out here
Speaker 2: alone and I'm not losing my dog of mine. People
Speaker 2: can find me at vote Smithman on X. Thank you
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Brother at vote Smithman on the EX. Chris Smithman, you're
Speaker 1: the best, the one time vice mayor of the City
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Thanks for the time today. Keep up the
Speaker 1: good work and we'll be talking again before too long.
Speaker 2: Thank you sir.
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. Chris Smithman. Always great to
Speaker 1: have him on. Dan Carroll in for Bill cunning in
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW. I'm Dan Carroll, Glad
Speaker 1: to be here, Glad you are here as well. Always
Speaker 1: glad to welcome in my next guest. You know, one
Speaker 1: of the things I talk about a lot behind this
Speaker 1: microphone is media of the national media and how things
Speaker 1: are covered by the national media. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of criticism, and I think it's criticism that's well earned
Speaker 1: because I spend so much time in television and radio
Speaker 1: and I've got a pretty good idea how things work
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And there's one place you can go
Speaker 1: to get all the coverage of what is happening in
Speaker 1: national media, and that is NewsBusters dot Org MRC. And
Speaker 1: Curtis Holk is the managing editor there, and I've had
Speaker 1: them on a lot, but I think this is the
Speaker 1: first time we've had a chance to talk in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six and Curtis hol Happy New Year and welcome
Speaker 1: back to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Happy New Year, dang, could to be with you, Good
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: With you as well. Give me and first of all
Speaker 1: before we do anything. I always like to give credit
Speaker 1: where credit is due because I am I am very
Speaker 1: critical of the NBC's of the world, the ABC's, the CBS's,
Speaker 1: the CNNs and all the rest of it. New York Times,
Speaker 1: the LA Times, all that stuff. But when something happens
Speaker 1: that deserves credit, I want to give credit. And NBC
Speaker 1: News the day after the day of the incident in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis where the Ice agent unfortunately had to shoot and
Speaker 1: kill that woman, Tom Lomas, and they had an analyst
Speaker 1: there and they did a segment that was honest, a
Speaker 1: segment that was forthright, and they analyzed frame by frame
Speaker 1: the video from that scene, and they did an on
Speaker 1: I thought they did a very honest and straightforward assessment
Speaker 1: of that. So I want to give credit, especially to
Speaker 1: Tom Lomas. I mean, this guy, when he was making
Speaker 1: his bones, he was covering the Trump campaign. You could
Speaker 1: always count on him being a reliable Trump basher, a
Speaker 1: reliable tool for the left to get the word of
Speaker 1: the agenda out there as best he could. But in
Speaker 1: this instance, they did an honest analysis of that video
Speaker 1: frame by frame, and so at least starting off this conversation,
Speaker 1: I want to give them credit for that.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's interesting to see the pivot in
Speaker 4: the media that Yamas has been running a semi decent newscast,
Speaker 4: a pretty decent newscast since he took over for Lester Halt,
Speaker 4: and with what's going on at CBS with Barry Wise
Speaker 4: and Tony Dakoppel, we could be looking at a situation
Speaker 4: where two of the three network evening newscasts aren't completely
Speaker 4: like unhinged liberal tears, liberal anger, gnashing of teeth. But
Speaker 4: the reason that segment, I'll just say real quick, is
Speaker 4: really good is because Tom Winner is the law enforcement
Speaker 4: reporter there. It was almost like a football play, you know,
Speaker 4: bringing it frame by frame, kind of circling things, kind
Speaker 4: of pointing things out.
Speaker 3: And he also did a good thing, damn by saying.
Speaker 4: Basically talking about what they know and what they don't know.
Speaker 4: And it's not weakness on the part of the news
Speaker 4: media that if something is unclear, like we none of
Speaker 4: us know what the woman was saying to these ice
Speaker 4: officers and the moments before, if anything, but that's something
Speaker 4: that we may want to know. It may enhance the
Speaker 4: picture of what happened the other day. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think the media so often want to reach a
Speaker 4: certain conclusion that fulfills their preset biases that they're not
Speaker 4: willing to step back and just be like, Okay, well
Speaker 4: we know this, but we don't know this. And that's
Speaker 4: really where we've run into a problem with trust in
Speaker 4: the media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you are one of those that gets
Speaker 1: your main information, your main source of information is let's
Speaker 1: say ABC News or let's say the Associated Press, the
Speaker 1: only thing you really know about this is that a
Speaker 1: woman who was minding her own business was gunned down
Speaker 1: by a bloodthirsty ice agent at the direction of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much and maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit,
Speaker 1: Curtis out, but that's pretty much the message that they
Speaker 1: wanted to get out there within their initial reporting of this.
Speaker 5: Le Meir.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ap headline here quote woman killed by ice
Speaker 4: agent in Minneapolis was a mother of three poets and
Speaker 4: new to the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow, Oh.
Speaker 4: Very stunning stuff. But I mean, I think multiple things
Speaker 4: can be true here. I mean, this thing was a tragedy.
Speaker 4: This woman clearly, I mean, it was clear. The Vice
Speaker 4: president was absolutely right that she was radicalized by the left.
Speaker 4: Maggie Vespa the NBC News went out on the Today
Speaker 4: Show this morning and said that the Vice president's claims
Speaker 4: about her being a radical leftist were without evidence, without evidence,
Speaker 4: I mean, absolutely insane. But it does a disservice to
Speaker 4: the facts of the case and her as well. And
Speaker 4: unfortunately this has all been a result of the culture
Speaker 4: of harassment.
Speaker 3: Scott Jennings the other day he.
Speaker 4: Talked about this being a deadly consequence of political vigilanteism,
Speaker 4: you know, and the difference between observe and obstruct law
Speaker 4: enforcement and calling law enforcement gestapo. But I think the
Speaker 4: key here is that this is going to be found
Speaker 4: likely to be awful but legal. Tom Winner also said
Speaker 4: that earlier in the day of the NBC's coverage in
Speaker 4: the moments thereafter, and that's okay, but that kind of
Speaker 4: nuanced dand is not allowed on CNN and MS. Now
Speaker 4: it's Trump administration, ice, bad, evil, stupid, Jacob Frid.
Speaker 1: Tim Wall's good, you know. I mean, it's a very.
Speaker 4: Black and white world for these people, and it's hyperbolic,
Speaker 4: and it does the country no.
Speaker 1: Good well, and there's no condemnation of the really the
Speaker 1: hateful and the violent and deviceive rhetoric that comes from
Speaker 1: the left you know, there were demonstrations in multiple cities
Speaker 1: across the United States last night Curtis out including here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, And I saw video today of these individuals
Speaker 1: in Queens, New York. They were chanting that we support
Speaker 1: Hamas in other cities across the country, they were talking
Speaker 1: about taking out the head of Homeland Security, Christy nom
Speaker 1: and hanging ar, talking about killing ICE agents and things
Speaker 1: like that. Where's the national network reporting on that sort
Speaker 1: of hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 4: It has not been really anywhere. I mean, the only
Speaker 4: thing I've seen is last night, Tony D. Koppel interviewed
Speaker 4: the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye, and he pointed out
Speaker 4: to him that, you know, you've got protesters in the
Speaker 4: streets saying things like Nazis go home.
Speaker 1: How are you helping the situation calm down?
Speaker 4: And Fry's answer said, well, I appreciate that we and
Speaker 4: Minneapolis are all about seeing with one accord, like excuse me.
Speaker 4: You know you have Tim Walls out there channeling his
Speaker 4: democratic forefathers by talking about mobilizing the National Guard like
Speaker 4: during the Civil Rights movement or something like that. You know,
Speaker 4: and we this all comes to it's we're talking about
Speaker 4: the Somali community and the Somalis. Oh my gosh, they
Speaker 4: built the city. As Peggy Flanning in, the Lieutenant Governor
Speaker 4: and others have said, it's such a disgusting and inhumane
Speaker 4: view of people when they're criminals, or in some cases,
Speaker 4: as Tom Hollman has talked about, they're victims of these
Speaker 4: leftist kind of slave masters, thinking that they rule over everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, Curtis, I think about this, and I go
Speaker 1: back and I look at a headline that was posted
Speaker 1: from the Associated Press when this incident happened. And here's
Speaker 1: the here's the headline from the Associated Press. The killing
Speaker 1: of a nursing student out for a run highlights the
Speaker 1: fears of solo female athletes. So and and this corresponds
Speaker 1: with a text I saw on X and the individual said,
Speaker 1: you know, if this woman in Minneapolis had been killed
Speaker 1: by an illegal alien, we wouldn't be going through all
Speaker 1: these changes that we're going through right now here in
Speaker 1: the enemy or the debate on this, there would be
Speaker 1: there would be no outrage at all.
Speaker 4: None, none, whatsoever. I mean, I mean that's the thing too.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jacob Fries come out and he took a
Speaker 4: question this morning at a press conference, saying, well, you know,
Speaker 4: people don't like my rhetoric or whatever, like, oh so
Speaker 4: what I used a bunch of f bombs. So I'm
Speaker 4: saying all these things. But you know, this woman is dead. Yes,
Speaker 4: Mayor Fry, Joscelyn Nungray, and Rachel Morin are unavailable to
Speaker 4: comment about whether your policy about not allowing ICE to
Speaker 4: go into city jails to get out illegal immigrants with
Speaker 4: ICE detainers is a good bad policy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, we spent so much time wondering if
Speaker 1: the media is ever going to change. And I had
Speaker 1: a guest on my show last night, a guy named
Speaker 1: Steve Oldfield. I used to work with him. He was
Speaker 1: a he was a movie critic for many years. Now
Speaker 1: he's he's doing his own documentaries. He's a professor at
Speaker 1: Thomas Moore University here in Northernentucky. And he he saw Perilous.
Speaker 1: He he did a documentary about Nick Sandon. You may
Speaker 1: remember Nick Samon, the Covington kid, And you know he
Speaker 1: was the one that was the initial reporting came out
Speaker 1: that well, he was at the Washington Monument or Lincoln Monument,
Speaker 1: and he was standing in the face of this you know,
Speaker 1: this this Indian dude who was just trying to you know,
Speaker 1: the guy was being very disrespectful. He had a mega
Speaker 1: hat on and of course he was a Trump supporter,
Speaker 1: so the media rushed to judgment on this kid just
Speaker 1: told very false and defamatory things about him, and he
Speaker 1: wound up with a multi million dollar settlement against against
Speaker 1: CNN that may have been in the hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. And he was saying that he was seeing
Speaker 1: parallels between that coverage and the coverage that surrounded this
Speaker 1: incident in Minneapolis, and he's seeing some parallels there, and
Speaker 1: and and the question I have about that is, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there was some soul searching from from media
Speaker 1: local end about the way they rolled this story out
Speaker 1: and how quickly they were putting that false narrative out there,
Speaker 1: because and I think the same element drives that coverage
Speaker 1: as the coverage we're seeing on this is that if
Speaker 1: this approves to the negative for Trump, then we are
Speaker 1: going to go ahead and put it out there, and
Speaker 1: ethics be damned, damn the torpedoes, We're going to put
Speaker 1: it out there. And if it hurts Trump, that is,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll deal with the fallout later and clean
Speaker 1: up the mess later. And I think we're seeing the
Speaker 1: same sort of thing then, as we're seeing.
Speaker 4: That too often the national news media and unfortunately some
Speaker 4: local folks as well, are have to frame every news
Speaker 4: story through a Trump angle? Does this benefit Trump? Can
Speaker 4: we work Trump into the story somehow or not? You know,
Speaker 4: I don't understand why they continue down this path considering
Speaker 4: how much fatigue I can pretty much guarantee there is.
Speaker 4: I know that Paul Farkeey, a former Washington Post media reporter,
Speaker 4: has been trying to get some anti Trump book published,
Speaker 4: and he shared on social media the other day that like,
Speaker 4: publishers are basically like, yeah, we've reached a point of
Speaker 4: saturation with these Trump books. Nobody's really buying them. So
Speaker 4: you wonder if you're going to hit that point in
Speaker 4: news as well. I mean, it's very disingenuous. And the
Speaker 4: other point I'll just make is, in some of these cases,
Speaker 4: it's too good to check. It's too good to check
Speaker 4: for them because you got to get to air. And
Speaker 4: it's not just about rushing terrant being first, because yes,
Speaker 4: I think that's one inclination, but the main thing is
Speaker 4: is to get a set of narratives out there because
Speaker 4: it's very difficult to put the toothpaste back and them
Speaker 4: two as we saw with Michael Brown and hands up,
Speaker 4: don't shoot. It's very hard once a set of facts
Speaker 4: are established, or that the president is a Russian agent,
Speaker 4: that those kinds of things. The quicker you get those
Speaker 4: things set and in the ether, the harder it is
Speaker 4: to kind of reel things back back in if once
Speaker 4: the facts come out, it's different than what they were promoting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you mentioned the headline from that ap
Speaker 1: story earlier, and if you look at the first sentence
Speaker 1: of that story, they've got the term killed by an
Speaker 1: Ice agent and Donald Trump in the same sentence. So
Speaker 1: and that's not done by mistake. That is done on purpose.
Speaker 1: They want people to associate this woman being killed with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump bottom line. And and I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: really it's it's sick and it's insidious. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: really getting to the point. And and we we know
Speaker 1: we see all these these uh different media pundits bemoaning
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, there's no trust in the
Speaker 1: media anymore. And somehow I guess that's Trump's fault too.
Speaker 1: But they have by and large uh, if not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, brought the distrust that they enjoy from the
Speaker 1: American people at this point in time. They brought it
Speaker 1: on themselves.
Speaker 3: That's why they getting mad at Tony D.
Speaker 4: Koppel, or they did on New Year's Day when he
Speaker 4: put out his commentary of saying that people don't trust
Speaker 4: the media and they have a right to not trust them.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: An AP editor Nick Ricardi tweeted over it and basically
Speaker 4: more or less said, well, you know, very often the
Speaker 4: customer is not always right, so basically screw them. And
Speaker 4: while yeah, that's certainly true, there are certain uh facts
Speaker 4: that should not be in dispute, like what is a
Speaker 4: man and what is a woman? But I digress you there,
Speaker 4: there has to there has to be some sort of
Speaker 4: you know, recognition about trying to at least understand why
Speaker 4: the public doesn't trust you, and instead it's this continuing
Speaker 4: active sticking your head in the sand and just being
Speaker 4: completely unapologetic and not willing to kind of look at
Speaker 4: yourself in the mirror about what's going on. And that's
Speaker 4: exactly and that's really exactly what we've been seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you make of the way this guy?
Speaker 1: Sure has been treated for the videos that he put
Speaker 1: out walking around to the different daycare centers in Minneapolis
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, look there's no one here, and he's
Speaker 1: walking through the office buildings and hey, you know it's
Speaker 1: a home healthcare service? Can I get some healthcare here?
Speaker 1: And time after time he's showing the empty buildings and
Speaker 1: talking about all the millions they're getting from the federal
Speaker 1: government and all the rest of that, and this guy
Speaker 1: is just being maligned from one end to the other.
Speaker 1: I think there was a time in this country where
Speaker 1: this guy would have been celebrated and said, look at
Speaker 1: the courage. Look what this guy is doing, going out
Speaker 1: there with it with his own camera, on his own initiative,
Speaker 1: and doing the job that your typical reporters ought to
Speaker 1: be doing. And I think there was some local reporting
Speaker 1: on this in Minneapolis that was done years ahead of time.
Speaker 1: When this story first broke, I think was back in
Speaker 1: about twenty fifteen. But they have this guy out there
Speaker 1: and they have his name just smeared and have his
Speaker 1: work pooh poohed by the national media. Is I look
Speaker 1: at that, and that's that's a disgrace. Instead of recognizing
Speaker 1: what this guy has gone out and done when it comes.
Speaker 4: To Somali daycares. I mean, I mean, what's interesting is
Speaker 4: Henn in New York Times. I just think of those
Speaker 4: two in particular, there are stories about Somali daycare fraud.
Speaker 4: Has not been about investigating the particular claims. It has
Speaker 4: been trying to undermine Nick Shirley. Maybe these World News
Speaker 4: tonight has only spent thirty five seconds talking about Somali fraud,
Speaker 4: period and a halfelievable, Only three and a half times
Speaker 4: more on the Somali population being victims of the Trump administration,
Speaker 4: and it's it's just again more about the personal and
Speaker 4: attacking Nick Shirley. Oh, he's just some conservative YouTuber, like
Speaker 4: he's not a real journalist. Did he go to journalism school?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's that kind of infantile, juvenile attitude that
Speaker 4: we are so used to from these folks. You just
Speaker 4: want to ask these people how old are you? Are
Speaker 4: you going to investigate the actual merits of this, or
Speaker 4: are you just going to like attack him personally. I
Speaker 4: think they've settled on we're just going to attack him
Speaker 4: personally instead of trying to, you know, see about what's
Speaker 4: going on here, or they just say without evidence, and
Speaker 4: hope that people that aren't is tuned into the news,
Speaker 4: you know, slink away and stop asking questions.
Speaker 1: Curtis Houth We got a run. But before I let
Speaker 1: you go, are the American people well served by the
Speaker 1: national media that we have right now?
Speaker 4: I mean, while as I say, there's still been improvements made,
Speaker 4: it is still not the case. It is still not
Speaker 4: the case by any stretch of the imagination. And we
Speaker 4: should want a strong national media in this country.
Speaker 3: We should.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see the national media as a
Speaker 4: concept go away, but there needs to be serious reforms.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right there in the First Amendment, so
Speaker 1: it should be taken advantage of, and it's something that
Speaker 1: that should.
Speaker 4: Not be A ya A couple says the First Amendment
Speaker 4: has a right to the free press. It does not
Speaker 4: include a right or demand that we trust them.
Speaker 1: That's fact. That's that's pretty good. That's pretty good stuff
Speaker 1: right there. So there are some changes happening at CBS,
Speaker 1: and the numbers for MS now continue to go down
Speaker 1: the toilet. But that's a that's a subject for another day.
Speaker 1: Curtis Holk, as always MRC NewsBusters, you guys do great
Speaker 1: work over there. Tell everyone over there. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: and keep up the great work, and I will certainly
Speaker 1: look forward to the times that we get a chance
Speaker 1: to talk in the year ahead. In twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: Absolutely talk soon, my friend go Bangles. We'll see what
Speaker 4: this press conference says that we.
Speaker 1: Will see it will We'll see if I'm not really
Speaker 1: open for much, Curtis Halk, you are the best. Keep
Speaker 1: up the great work, and we will talk to you
Speaker 1: again on seven hundred.
Speaker 2: W l W.
Speaker 1: You're certainly not going to sit on our hands.
Speaker 6: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Seg I think you're the only sports guy that is
Speaker 1: not down at pay Course Stadium right now. That's all right,
Speaker 1: having an audience with with Duke. That's all right.
Speaker 7: You talked for the first time in one hundred and
Speaker 7: seventy one days.
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy one days, and the the conference
Speaker 1: is still going on. But I think we I think
Speaker 1: we got the gist of it. I think so. I
Speaker 1: think we got the And here's here's what I put
Speaker 1: my highlighter to. Okay, Duke Tobin said, we have in
Speaker 1: my mind a championship team. Yes, he says, in his
Speaker 1: mind the Bengals have a championship team. What was the
Speaker 1: record this past season six and eleven, six wins eleven
Speaker 1: losses for Duke Tobin. Well, that's you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really equal a championship team. Well, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you will playoff three years in a row
Speaker 1: if you have a healthy Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7: I think things. But I'm just saying, I mean that's
Speaker 7: the way it is. I mean, the things would have
Speaker 7: been a lot different if Joe Burrow played the entire season.
Speaker 1: You know, I got I got a buddy that I
Speaker 1: golf with and he always says, you know, if if
Speaker 1: if my aunt had testicles, should be my uncle.
Speaker 7: Also, they said they need a pass rush. That's going
Speaker 7: to be a focus in the offseason. No kidding, no
Speaker 7: plan to light now, to expand the scouting staff. Uh,
Speaker 7: they're going to find solutions together and collaborative.
Speaker 1: Asked.
Speaker 7: He was asked if the fans have a belief in
Speaker 7: the team and they've done it before.
Speaker 1: He said, they've We've done it before. They've done it with.
Speaker 7: Draft picks, free agents, undrafted free agents. So, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: they just got to get to work down there, find
Speaker 7: the right people to draft, find the right people in
Speaker 7: free agency, and get it going.
Speaker 1: Duke Tobin became Cincinnati Bengals director of player personnel in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Correct Since that time, the regular
Speaker 1: season record one hundred eighty five wins, one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety nine losses, and four ties. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anyone else in the NFL that hangs around long enough
Speaker 1: with a record like that to compile a record like that.
Speaker 1: And look, I think Duke Tobin's a good guy. I
Speaker 1: think I Understan Dan. The model that the Bengals have
Speaker 1: and the way they do business, I think it's unlike
Speaker 1: any other team in the NFL. But I mean something's
Speaker 1: got something's gotta give, and and to essentially say we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing the same thing we've been doing, we
Speaker 1: just gotta, you know, we gotta find better players. We
Speaker 1: gotta have, Like mo Egger's been saying, they gotta get players.
Speaker 1: They can't get players in here and say it's gonna
Speaker 1: be two, three, four seasons before they develop into a
Speaker 1: great NFL player. They need guys that can come in
Speaker 1: and get it done right now, because hey, Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: ain't getting any younger.
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Speaker 7: So, the NFL's wild Card Weekend starts off tomorrow. Two
Speaker 7: games Rams in Carolina and we'll have Green Bay in
Speaker 7: Chicago in the snow at eight on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: That's tomorrow night, triple header action on Sunday, all the
Speaker 7: action on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else? Oh Dan Pitcher.
Speaker 7: Bengals offensive coredinator, interviewing today for the head coaching job
Speaker 7: with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Is that an upgrade?
Speaker 7: I don't think he's gonna I think he's gonna come
Speaker 7: back down South High on I seventy one and stay here.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you really do you want to leave
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and go coach the dor Sanders.
Speaker 7: Who else is gonna I mean, who knows it's going
Speaker 7: to be a quarterback there? College football? Of course, Miami's
Speaker 7: in the championship game defeating Old Miss tonight. They'll get
Speaker 7: their opponent Number one, Indiana and Oregon at seven thirty.
Speaker 1: Great game last night. Yes, Lane Kiffin says that was
Speaker 1: a pass interference at the end. I agree with him.
Speaker 1: Guy had a hold of he had a hold of
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Pads were crying out loud, correct, no call,
Speaker 1: No call college football.
Speaker 7: It was let's see running back James Minor the third
Speaker 7: out of West Virginia State and Winton Woods On commits
Speaker 7: to the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Come on now.
Speaker 7: Four Bearcats one, two, three four have been invited to
Speaker 7: the National Football League combine late February Jeff Caldwell, Big
Speaker 7: Joe Royer out of Elder Cole Range, fin Us, Dante
Speaker 7: Corleone and Jake the Snake.
Speaker 1: Goldie Dante Corleone College.
Speaker 7: Basketball tonight sixteen and o Miami RedHawks on the road
Speaker 7: to Toledo, NKU and Milwaukee at seven thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 7: In fifteen thirty, Detroit Mercy will host Wright State tomorrow,
Speaker 7: Providence and Xavier extly looking to snap that losing streak
Speaker 7: three point thirty here on seven hundred WLW, Cats and
Speaker 7: the Dogs go out of Tomorrow. The Cats in the
Speaker 7: SEC Mississippi State the Home of the Cowboy, and Kentucky
Speaker 7: at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty Sunday.
Speaker 1: Not having a great season so far.
Speaker 7: Sunday, the Cincinnati Bearcats take on number twenty five UCF
Speaker 7: who are twelve and one on the year.
Speaker 1: In South Florida.
Speaker 7: See EHL Hockey tonight or beloved Cyclones are on the
Speaker 7: road at Fort Wayne.
Speaker 1: Got to get the ball rolling, man, They got to
Speaker 1: get the puck. They got to get the puck flying.
Speaker 7: Let's see back to college football there, Dan Carroll Brendan
Speaker 7: Soaresby will owe the University of Cincinnati Bearcats one million
Speaker 7: dollars from a buyout in his NIL contract. That buyout
Speaker 7: is from a year revenue sharing agreement Soresby signed through
Speaker 7: the twenty twenty sixth season.
Speaker 1: So he's got to make five He's got a.
Speaker 7: Five mil of Texas Tech give a one million back
Speaker 7: to Clifton, big boy.
Speaker 1: How about that? You know what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: What? Why?
Speaker 1: Don't we just stop calling it college football? Why don't
Speaker 1: we just call it pro? Why don't we just call
Speaker 1: it professional football? Pro pro? Two? And as what Wes
Speaker 1: Miller was talking about on the On the Coaches Show
Speaker 1: the other night, he said, he said, this is professional
Speaker 1: sports now. He said, we gotta have contracts, man, he said,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta have contracts that keep players at
Speaker 1: a school. It is a complete unrestricted free agency and
Speaker 1: these guys can come and go as a damn well,
Speaker 1: please contracts be damned.
Speaker 7: Red's update the Reds reaching deals on with eight players
Speaker 7: to avoid arbitration. Brady Singer starts it off at twelve,
Speaker 7: mil Nicolodolo four point seven, Gavin Luck, Spencer Steer, TJ. Friedel,
Speaker 7: Matt McClain settled. Smart move there, Tony Santion and Will
Speaker 7: with a Thrill Benson. The two that did not sign
Speaker 7: pitcher pitcher Graham Ash Crampton, Catcher Tyler Stevenson likely headed
Speaker 7: to arbitration.
Speaker 1: Like I like Santion and are the Baseball Commissioner.
Speaker 7: Baseball Commissioner Rob Manford says he's got many ideas to
Speaker 7: shake up the game. Some of them have been good,
Speaker 7: like the pitch timer, larger bases, restrictions on defensive shifts.
Speaker 1: What about what about the other like the placing?
Speaker 7: The placing the runner called the Manfred Man has not
Speaker 7: been well received. So Thursday, talking to w f A
Speaker 7: N and New York, he's talking that the baseball has
Speaker 7: talked about split seasons. What remember that in nineteen eighty
Speaker 7: one when we was robbed.
Speaker 1: With the Reds the best of the record. That's right, ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Plus an end season tournament which would presumably be similar
Speaker 7: to the NBA Cup.
Speaker 1: No, that would be stupid. Who cares do the NBA players?
Speaker 1: Do they get more money for it? Do they get
Speaker 1: to the NBA players they get a check if they
Speaker 1: win that NBA Cup.
Speaker 7: They get paid if they start breathing the nuts. So
Speaker 7: I don't want to see no the commissioners.
Speaker 1: It's meaningless. It's meaningless. And also, Dan Carroll, good luck this.
Speaker 7: Weekend, get rid of the phantom Runner. Tallahassee Florida. Abby
Speaker 7: Seoul out of Mercy McCaulay High School to the UC freshman.
Speaker 7: She is going to take part in the World cross
Speaker 7: Country Championship.
Speaker 1: World cross Country. I did not know there was such
Speaker 1: a thing as the World cross country champion. What does
Speaker 1: that take? Good luck?
Speaker 7: And like I said, Tallahassee Flordahassie, Florida freshman, see what happens?
Speaker 1: Pretty good. I had no idea that was there was
Speaker 1: a worldwide competition across country. Learn something new every tell
Speaker 1: I'm telling you man, and then uh, but but you
Speaker 1: know I did learn today? Is the dukester till still talking?
Speaker 1: Let's see, let me see. Oh he s the broadcast
Speaker 1: here says he's done. Didn't go as long as the president.
Speaker 1: So I think we got I think we got all
Speaker 1: the pertinent information. I think so. But hey, a lot
Speaker 1: of questions there, and that Tanyo Tanyo Work is there
Speaker 1: asking about play calling and she and now I take it.
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if TANYR. Work is satisfied now
Speaker 1: that that Duke Tobin is going to justice.
Speaker 7: Joe might be giving you a call Justice, Joe might
Speaker 7: be calling you up. That's all right, Tanya Works, she
Speaker 7: could be there after County You says that Duke Tobin
Speaker 7: is still still talking. It's like a presidential news coming.
Speaker 1: You still speak. Well, you might look you got you
Speaker 1: got you don't hear from him? I mean you got
Speaker 1: you got James Rapine. There, you got Trags, there, you
Speaker 1: got Joe Daniman of Fox nineteen. There everybody, You got
Speaker 1: everybody there, and they all want to get their questions
Speaker 1: and that takes a while. Right, The collaboration is the
Speaker 1: word of the day. That's right. Four hundred he says,
Speaker 1: we we did four hundred million in contracts last season,
Speaker 1: and he says we have elite players. Well, that may
Speaker 1: be true on the offensive side, so at least at
Speaker 1: least he said, I think he recognized the fact that
Speaker 1: the defense wasn't good this year and they got better
Speaker 1: in the second half of the white becoming that's a
Speaker 1: that's a dollar late, that's a day late and a
Speaker 1: dollar short.
Speaker 7: That light light, that light bulb went above their head.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's it. Then, now okay, no, that's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they.
Speaker 7: Want to get back to talking to Duke Tobin.
Speaker 1: Defensively, they had a couple of good games late in
Speaker 1: the season when it didn't matter. But I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: when you've got you when you've got the Jets down
Speaker 1: to a fourth and fourteen, and all you got to
Speaker 1: do is make that play and end the game. And
Speaker 1: then they go they go for a late score and
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals. No, that can't happen. That can't happen, Seg.
Speaker 1: I agree, But at least in his mind, the mind
Speaker 1: of Dude Cobin, the Bengals have a championship team. That's
Speaker 1: that's like you know, in my mind, I consider myself
Speaker 1: a multi millionaire, but when I look at my checkbook,
Speaker 1: it says, nah, bah bah nah. Gotta deal with reality, Seg.
Speaker 1: What we're dealing with here? He always deal with reality?
Speaker 1: They do it? Do us of us? Do us the
Speaker 1: reality of getting out of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 7: Dan Carrol and Otter of the Indiana Hoosiers. And this
Speaker 7: today being National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day in some cities,
Speaker 7: some cities not.
Speaker 1: We salute the thin blue line.
Speaker 7: We leave you with the immortal words of the Steward Report.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 5: With the the communications you have, you can talk to
Speaker 5: people anytime, anywhere, anytime.
Speaker 1: Let's get that going on seven hundred WLW back on
Speaker 1: the Big one, seven hundred WLW one fifty seven news
Speaker 1: coming up top of the hour. And I am not
Speaker 1: criticizing Duke Tobin. Look, I give him great credit for
Speaker 1: coming out facing media questions today. I think it should
Speaker 1: be done on a more regular basis. It would be
Speaker 1: nice if there were periodic conversations with the media. I
Speaker 1: mean there's I don't think there's any reason why you
Speaker 1: can't schedule a sit down from time to time during
Speaker 1: the course of the season pre planet when it's make
Speaker 1: a convenient for you. I think the the people who
Speaker 1: cover this team on a regular basis would love to
Speaker 1: have that sort of access because it's been it happens
Speaker 1: many times that And look, I know Zach Taylor as
Speaker 1: the head coach is the face of the franchise, at
Speaker 1: least when it comes to addressing issues with the media
Speaker 1: and from a player standpoint, obviously Joe Burrow is the
Speaker 1: face of the franchise. But when it comes to getting
Speaker 1: a question asked, there's one source and that's the head coach.
Speaker 1: But oftentimes there are questions asked by the media that
Speaker 1: may not exactly be in the wheelhouse of Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: so it's got to go to the director of Player Personnel,
Speaker 1: Duke Tobin. But did we really get anything of value
Speaker 1: out of that? When Duke Tobin comes out and he says,
Speaker 1: in my mind, we have a championship team. Ye, Look,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a I don't think there's any question.
Speaker 1: Some of the most elite and best players in the
Speaker 1: league are on that offense. But as we know, it
Speaker 1: takes more than just offense. I think he was straight
Speaker 1: up and straightforward recognized that there are serious deficiencies on
Speaker 1: this team and they are in a position now where
Speaker 1: they need to get something done about. It's something that's
Speaker 1: not going to take or develop two or three years
Speaker 1: down the road. So did he really display that sense
Speaker 1: of urgency? Now you decide based on what you heard
Speaker 1: earlier today. In the meantime, we've got to get to
Speaker 1: news after the news the top of the hour. I've
Speaker 1: got my friend Tina Driskovich coming up from Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 1: It's been a little while since we've talked with Moms
Speaker 1: for Liberty, declared a heat group by the Southern Poverty
Speaker 1: Law Center, But we'll find out what they've been up to.
Speaker 1: They've had a lot of things going on, and it's
Speaker 1: been a little while since we've talked to Moms for Liberty,
Speaker 1: So we'll find out what's going on with them and
Speaker 1: get her thoughts on some of the current issues that
Speaker 1: are happening in and around this great country of ours.
Speaker 1: But right now it is two o'clock on the Home
Speaker 1: of the Best Bengals coverage, seven hundred WLW. All right
Speaker 1: back on the big one, seven hundred WLW. We continue
Speaker 1: on this Friday with another great guest. Always love catching
Speaker 1: up every so often with my friend Tina Diskovic, one
Speaker 1: of the founders of a group, Tina Diskovich of Moms
Speaker 1: for Liberty? Are you still declared a hate group by
Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center? Do you still have that title?
Speaker 8: We do?
Speaker 1: Oh, boy boy, it is so much hate, so much,
Speaker 1: so much hate out there, the Moms for Liberty. I
Speaker 1: read recently where one of the things you did the
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty was put a million copies of the
Speaker 1: Constitution in middle schools across the country. Tell me about that.
Speaker 1: That had to be a huge undertaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 9: We partner with nine to seventeen Society. They're a free
Speaker 9: organization and the the thing that they do is distribute
Speaker 9: constitute pocket constitutions for free, and so we partnered with
Speaker 9: them so that our chapter leaders across the country could
Speaker 9: place an order for free with them to get as
Speaker 9: many pocket constitutions as they needed for their county. For
Speaker 9: middle school students. Most across the country, either seventh or
Speaker 9: eighth grade is a Civics class, and so the goal
Speaker 9: is to get them placed in every hand of every
Speaker 9: kid for Civics, and states like Wyoming, we placed in
Speaker 9: every single seventh grader in the state of Wyoming in
Speaker 9: a public school got a pocket constitution this past year,
Speaker 9: so we have Yeah, we have a lot more students
Speaker 9: to reach, but we've been doing it for three years now.
Speaker 9: And I will say I give out pocket constitutions at
Speaker 9: Halloween every year. I also give a full size candy
Speaker 9: bar to makeup for the fact that I'm giving them.
Speaker 3: A pocket constitution.
Speaker 9: And this was the first year two kids said, oh,
Speaker 9: I already have one of these. I got it at
Speaker 9: school this year. Oh, happy to see that. So we're
Speaker 9: making we're making changes.
Speaker 1: I think that is such a great idea. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to put the constitutions in the schools
Speaker 1: and get them in the hands of the kids. It's
Speaker 1: another thing for them to have them look at it
Speaker 1: and refer to it on a regular basis. So hopefully
Speaker 1: that is happening. I would also imagine that the way
Speaker 1: things are in this country right now, there are some
Speaker 1: schools who would resist that idea of giving as Sadly,
Speaker 1: I think there are schools and teachers and probably different
Speaker 1: school administrations that would frown on the idea of your
Speaker 1: group passing out constitutions copies of the constitutions to their studies.
Speaker 8: Yeah, one d percent. We've had. We've had districts decline,
Speaker 8: we sure have.
Speaker 9: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania declined last year I think, or the
Speaker 9: year before they said they would, and then you know,
Speaker 9: we showed up with them all we ordered them, and
Speaker 9: then they declined them, so they had to scramble and
Speaker 9: find other places to place them. And you know, I
Speaker 9: could list other places across the country.
Speaker 3: To have done that.
Speaker 9: It's one of the reasons that we don't. We have
Speaker 9: pocket constitutions that are branded with Moms for Liberty, and
Speaker 9: those aren't the ones we donate because we want kids
Speaker 9: to actually have them. This isn't about Mom's for Liberty
Speaker 9: getting some branding in front of kids or you know,
Speaker 9: in front of moms. It's literally about getting pocket constitutions.
Speaker 9: In the ninth seventeen Society, all they do is donate
Speaker 9: pocket constitutions. They don't really have, you know, any other
Speaker 9: agendas and so it's one of the reasons we work
Speaker 9: through them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last time we talked to you had just
Speaker 1: started your podcast that you that you've been doing. How's
Speaker 1: everything going with the podcast so far?
Speaker 3: It's going great.
Speaker 9: I would you know, between you and I and whoever
Speaker 9: might be listening, I don't have a massive reach. I
Speaker 9: haven't reached a million viewers in my audience or anything
Speaker 9: about any Yeah, it's a really important podcast because it
Speaker 9: tells the story of each of our frontline warriors that
Speaker 9: are running chapters, and every single one is different and
Speaker 9: unique and remarkable. This past week, this past Wednesday, they
Speaker 9: run Wednesday morning at ten am live on All Moms
Speaker 9: for Liberty social media accounts, And this one this week
Speaker 9: was really really good. It was about our identity crisis
Speaker 9: as Americans, and one of our chapter chairs is actually
Speaker 9: a licensed mental health counselor, and we compared our whole
Speaker 9: identity crisis as Americans to what it's like for a
Speaker 9: child that's going through an identity crisis, and it's the
Speaker 9: same steps. Like you know, negativity is poured into you
Speaker 9: students across America, we're pouring into the America. Is that
Speaker 9: it was founded on slavery, all of these things, and
Speaker 9: then you expect them to have a healthy, patriotic outlook,
Speaker 9: and it's byfically engaged as an adult and it's not
Speaker 9: happening because of what we're doing to them. We're robbing
Speaker 9: them of their American identity. It was so good, It
Speaker 9: was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think so much of that
Speaker 1: of what goes on in the education system is being
Speaker 1: played out today by what some of the video and
Speaker 1: some of the things that I'm the current events that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at on TV right now. But before we
Speaker 1: get to those current events, a couple other things I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about. Here we're in Ohio in
Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty six. There is a new law
Speaker 1: that is taking effect that is going to keep students
Speaker 1: in the classroom from having access to their cell phones.
Speaker 1: So there's already some school districts around here that have
Speaker 1: already started policies like that. I think it's a great idea,
Speaker 1: take the cell phones and that distraction away from kids
Speaker 1: while they're in school and in the classroom. What does
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty have to say about that idea of
Speaker 1: you know, the kids walk into school, they put their
Speaker 1: cell phone away, or they keep it in a secure
Speaker 1: pouch where they can't be looking at it all day long.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that notion of taking the
Speaker 1: cell phones out of the hands of kids during the
Speaker 1: school day.
Speaker 9: Our membership is actually very divided on this, and some
Speaker 9: very strong opinions on both sides. I can tell you
Speaker 9: what I personally believe. I have children in school. You know,
Speaker 9: I've been a school board member. Lots of experiences you
Speaker 9: served as a sub and classrooms of all ages, so
Speaker 9: experience the phones in the classroom.
Speaker 3: Phones should not be out in classroom period, end of
Speaker 3: the story. It's distracting.
Speaker 9: Obviously, they're getting text and social media and all these
Speaker 9: other things are coming up on the screen even if
Speaker 9: they're trying to look something up for their lessons, So
Speaker 9: they should be put away. I do not want my
Speaker 9: children to be on campus without their phones. And there's
Speaker 9: some states and some school districts across the country that
Speaker 9: are completely banning them from even bringing them on campus,
Speaker 9: and I don't like that one bit. So I think
Speaker 9: there's probably a healthy hybrid where they can put them
Speaker 9: away as they enter the classroom door leave. Some teachers
Speaker 9: put charging booths at the door, leave it to all
Speaker 9: of your phones right here by the door, so that
Speaker 9: they can fook us during class, but have them in between.
Speaker 1: So you think there's a I guess they taken away
Speaker 1: from kids completely at school is maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: too extreme, and so we need to find something that
Speaker 1: is someplace to meet and them find some common ground
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's that's my thoughts.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, as you look at what's happening
Speaker 1: in the media right now, and again, I think some
Speaker 1: much of this relates back to our education system, and
Speaker 1: I've talked to a number of different guests about its
Speaker 1: specifically as it relates to Zorhan Mondani in New York City,
Speaker 1: and he's out there and he's preaching socialism and communism,
Speaker 1: the warmth of the collective. If you caught that during
Speaker 1: his inauguration speech, you a going to get rid of
Speaker 1: the frigidity of capitalism and rugged individualism for the warmth
Speaker 1: of the collective. And I just think there's so many,
Speaker 1: especially young people who voted for this guy in New
Speaker 1: York City, and I see that as an indictment on
Speaker 1: our education system because these people, so many that voted
Speaker 1: for him, just think it's going to be you know,
Speaker 1: all rainbows and unicorns and the rest of it. And
Speaker 1: they have really no clue about the history of the
Speaker 1: failure of socialism and communism across the world, and it
Speaker 1: never works, it never has worked. But yet somehow they
Speaker 1: want to go out there and celebrate all these socialists
Speaker 1: and communist ideas that are coming to New York City.
Speaker 9: It goes back to what you know, we just talked
Speaker 9: about a second ago. We have lost our American identity
Speaker 9: and we have done that through the education system, hands down,
Speaker 9: one hundred percent.
Speaker 8: You know, we moms, everybody. We can point to a.
Speaker 9: Ton of issues in education, lessons that have been taught.
Speaker 9: I can go back to my son who's twenty four now,
Speaker 9: in his high school American Government class. He texted me
Speaker 9: a photo. I said, Mom, can you even believe this?
Speaker 9: The glossary in the back of the American Government book
Speaker 9: said Karl Marx, father of capitalism. And so they've been
Speaker 9: sewing a confusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, promise you that's what
Speaker 9: I said. They've been sowing chaos and confusion. And that's
Speaker 9: that's on that that's like the good end, Like if
Speaker 9: you were like on the scale of all the horrible
Speaker 9: things they've done. That's probably like, oh, that's really not
Speaker 9: that bad. That's just a little confusing and a little
Speaker 9: wrong and not true. But then you can look at
Speaker 9: them actually trying to destroy American history, destroy our founding fathers,
Speaker 9: destroy our founding principles, and of course they're going to
Speaker 9: be looking for different solutions outside of capitalism and rugged
Speaker 9: individualism because they've been taught it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so as that relates to the current situation,
Speaker 1: say that, like we have it in Minnesota right now,
Speaker 1: and it's specifically in Minneapolis, and you talk about this
Speaker 1: large Somali population, is that is there. It seems like
Speaker 1: there's so much fraud associated with this community and the
Speaker 1: home health care services and the day care services and
Speaker 1: the transportation companies and all this other stuff supposed to
Speaker 1: be feeding kids and all the rest of it. And
Speaker 1: it seems like we get this message that is intentionally
Speaker 1: meant to confuse people. When you talk about immigrants that
Speaker 1: come into the country, and on one hand, you know
Speaker 1: there are many many of them may be refugees, they
Speaker 1: may be here illegally, some may be here illegally for
Speaker 1: different things, But it doesn't seem that we really get
Speaker 1: a clear picture from the media, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are confused about you know what, why
Speaker 1: are we cracking down on this particular community or these
Speaker 1: particular individuals when when when you know they're they're just
Speaker 1: here for the American experience, for the American way of life.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we get so much mixed messages there. I
Speaker 1: think people look at this and again that whole issue
Speaker 1: of confusion comes into play when you look at the
Speaker 1: way this is presented to the people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's deliberate.
Speaker 9: The confusion is deliberately done not just to our children,
Speaker 9: but as you're saying and throughout the media. So it
Speaker 9: just carries on into your adulthood everything you're exposed to.
Speaker 9: And I mean, if you're a god fearing person who
Speaker 9: is the father of confusion and lies, that's where this
Speaker 9: stems from and comes from. And the fruit of confusion
Speaker 9: and lies are things like we're seeing unfold in Minneapolis now,
Speaker 9: which is it's hard for us to handle and work through.
Speaker 9: It's very it's hard for our country to face. But
Speaker 9: to just go full circle in the conversation, it's starting
Speaker 9: in America's classrooms and that's what Mom's liberty was created
Speaker 9: for to start fighting back.
Speaker 8: But my goodness, we still have a long way to go.
Speaker 1: You see. Well, but I look at the map that's
Speaker 1: on your website and I see all the chapters that
Speaker 1: are popping up. You've still got some areas out there
Speaker 1: that are a little bit thin, but it seems like
Speaker 1: more and more people are catching onto to the movement
Speaker 1: that is Mom's for Liberty.
Speaker 8: Let's go Ohio.
Speaker 9: We have lots of blue left still in Ohio, and
Speaker 9: that's you're blue on there. If you don't have a
Speaker 9: Mom's Liberty chapter, you need to be gold. You need
Speaker 9: to be shining and have a light in your county
Speaker 9: so that you have moms and dads that are watchdogs
Speaker 9: watching the school districts making sure this nonsense isn't in
Speaker 9: your community.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about On January thirteenth, Moms for Liberty
Speaker 1: has an event that's coming up on the steps of
Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court, and this is the rally
Speaker 1: for Women's Sports. Talk about this event a little bit,
Speaker 1: What is going on with the Supreme Court that day,
Speaker 1: and where Moms for Liberty is on this and what
Speaker 1: you hope to accomplish.
Speaker 9: Ah, yeah, well, I wish we could take full credit.
Speaker 9: I know we put out graphics and information for our
Speaker 9: people to gather there too, but it's really Alliance Defending Freedom.
Speaker 8: That's their case.
Speaker 9: It's a keep boys out, a women's sports case, keeping
Speaker 9: protect girl space's case.
Speaker 8: It's a landmark obviously Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: Case that will be heard.
Speaker 9: And so they put together a rally outside that just
Speaker 9: seems to be growing and growing. There's a lot of
Speaker 9: organizations that are going to be present, and a lot
Speaker 9: of our moms were saying, we want to go, we
Speaker 9: want to be there, and so we're just organizing them
Speaker 9: together and doing a reception after we invite anyone to
Speaker 9: join us.
Speaker 8: It starts at.
Speaker 9: Ten am and we'll be doing a private reception after.
Speaker 9: But if you go to Mom's lib, we got an
Speaker 9: organ sign up we can invite to our private reception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do we get to the point to where, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that year old enough that when you went
Speaker 1: to school, there was boys sports, there was girls sports.
Speaker 1: There was a boy's restroom and a girl's restroom, and
Speaker 1: there really wasn't any confusion about that. But now, and thankfully,
Speaker 1: I think because of the policies of this administration, we're
Speaker 1: getting away from that, but the whole idea, there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of places around this country where they are
Speaker 1: fighting this tooth and nail, And people look at this
Speaker 1: notion of having teenage boys compete against girls in sports.
Speaker 1: They want to act as if there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: that and it's no big deal. But in so many
Speaker 1: of these people have spent time with Title nine and
Speaker 1: trying to get better situations for women in sports and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. But yet in so many
Speaker 1: cases they're willing to throw all that away just to
Speaker 1: pursue this agenda item.
Speaker 9: My goodness, this topic we could do a whole day
Speaker 9: radio show. So I'm not even sure where to start,
Speaker 9: but it's been, it's been in the works for generations.
Speaker 9: We can tie it into the conversation of causing confusion
Speaker 9: and chaos, And what more confusion can you cause if
Speaker 9: you can't even identify the difference between a boy and
Speaker 9: a girl the basic Biblical genesis one, you know, man
Speaker 9: and woman, and so it strikes to the core of evil.
Speaker 9: You can trace it starting in America really in the
Speaker 9: forties and fifties. You can move all the way up
Speaker 9: to the early two thousands and the twenty tens when
Speaker 9: we started seeing here in Florida policies, especially when Obama
Speaker 9: under President Obama, they started, you know, the dear colleagues
Speaker 9: let deer colleague letters to school districts where they started
Speaker 9: pulling the putting in the word gender identity into all
Speaker 9: these discrimination policies across the country. They were laying the groundwork.
Speaker 9: You know, now in hindsight, we can look back and
Speaker 9: see steps that were taken systematically, well planned out to
Speaker 9: bring us to where we are today. And so we
Speaker 9: have to be smarter. We have to see these things coming.
Speaker 9: But like you said, this administration first executive order at
Speaker 9: the gate, I believe was get boys out of girls sports,
Speaker 9: and we at months Liberty have been fighting it and
Speaker 9: we've sued the bid administration. We've got a federal injunction.
Speaker 9: There's so many good people really fighting this. But it
Speaker 9: is remarkable.
Speaker 8: That that's where we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those on the other side of this issue,
Speaker 1: they never give up. And I can sit here and
Speaker 1: look at it, and I can look at the policies
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration and get a sense or have
Speaker 1: a feeling that the tide is turning away from this.
Speaker 1: But then I also get the feeling that there are
Speaker 1: just a lot of areas around the country where you
Speaker 1: have school boards or administrators or people who have a
Speaker 1: certain agenda are simply lying in wait for their time
Speaker 1: too to come up and push this agenda once again.
Speaker 9: Right now, it's just an executive order, like President Trump,
Speaker 9: what does you have?
Speaker 8: Three more years?
Speaker 3: Goes away?
Speaker 9: In three years, it's gone. So we've got whole states
Speaker 9: Colorado right now, for example, the state of Washington doing
Speaker 9: BOWD initiatives because this pulls eighty five percent of parents,
Speaker 9: whether you're a Republican a Democrat, whether you are pro
Speaker 9: choice or pro life, eighty five percent of parents in
Speaker 9: general do not want boys in their daughter's bathrooms, locker rooms,
Speaker 9: or on their sports teams.
Speaker 8: And so we have to take it.
Speaker 9: Directly to BAWD initiatives and state laws and handle this
Speaker 9: in other ways because President Trump cannot save us forever.
Speaker 1: All right, So Moms for Liberty the big rally at
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court January thirteenth, at ten am. You'll be
Speaker 1: out there, hopefully you'll have decent weather for that. But
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a mom to join Moms
Speaker 1: for Liberty, do you you don't.
Speaker 9: We have dads and uncles just concerned set of fends
Speaker 9: that are all part of our organization. We have seven
Speaker 9: chapters that are led by dads right now, so you
Speaker 9: could even you could even be in leadership if you
Speaker 9: would like to volunteer your time to saving America, seating
Speaker 9: our education system and preserving it for future generations. We
Speaker 9: have so many things coming up in twenty twenty six
Speaker 9: for America two fifty and maybe you can have me
Speaker 9: back on soon to talk about some of these big events.
Speaker 9: For partnering with Glenn Back and Mercury one and some others.
Speaker 9: It's going to be fabulous.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic, well, Tina Diskovich. I always look forward
Speaker 1: to having a chance to talk to you and catch
Speaker 1: up and find out what's been going on with Moms
Speaker 1: for Liberty. Thank you so much for the time you
Speaker 1: do great work. I encourage you to keep up the
Speaker 1: great work in twenty twenty six, and we will definitely
Speaker 1: have some conversations in the year ahead, so I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to that.
Speaker 3: Okay, talk soon. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Tina diskoviach Moms for Liberty
Speaker 1: and all you got to do is google it if
Speaker 1: you want to find out more for Moms for Liberty,
Speaker 1: and it'll take you right to the website Moms for
Speaker 1: Liberty and you can find out about all the good
Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. Still a hate group though, according to
Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center, And I think that tells
Speaker 1: you all you need to know about that organization. I'm
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll hundred W l W. We are certainly not
Speaker 1: gonna sit on our hands.
Speaker 6: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting God.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Duke Tobin, Baby, you say it? We play it.
Speaker 7: Wait, this is Tom Tinkle coming up right here. Listen
Speaker 7: Tom Tinkle going that elephant.
Speaker 1: Sounds, elephant sound or whatever that is. It is supposed
Speaker 1: to be a Bengals sound, isn't it supposed to be? Award?
Speaker 1: Because that's what it is, is a Bengals the Bengals war.
Speaker 1: Here it comes again. Hit it. That's right, that's right. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll hear this song a few more times in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season with a lot of touchdowns
Speaker 1: with you know, I mean, Jake Tobin says he knows
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, seg I hope so, and
Speaker 1: in his mind, they already have a championship team, even
Speaker 1: though on paper, in reality they do not have a
Speaker 1: championship team.
Speaker 7: I'm sure a lot of teams in the National Football
Speaker 7: League feel that way. Six wins, one will win.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what league that six
Speaker 1: wins eleven losses makes a championship team USFL, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't well, I mean, I don't think so. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think World Football League, I think they
Speaker 1: have a championship team. You have to win more games
Speaker 1: than you lose. I mean, I'm not an expert in
Speaker 1: this area. I'm just saying I think I think that
Speaker 1: that's a that's a major that's a major step towards
Speaker 1: having a championship team is to win more games tames
Speaker 1: then you lose. Let's start with that.
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Speaker 1: A lot of other reporters down there, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to check with Tanya and see if his response
Speaker 1: was satisfactory and that she's satisfied now that the play
Speaker 1: calling issues for the Bengals have been addressed to her satisfaction.
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Speaker 7: Besides the Duke Tobin press conference today, offensive coordinator Dan
Speaker 7: Pitcher was four or five hours up the road off
Speaker 7: off I seventy one. The Cleveland Browns interviewed the Bengals
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator day for their head coaching vacancy.
Speaker 1: Was that that was an in person interview. Correct? Did
Speaker 1: they fly them up there that they had to fly
Speaker 1: They flew? They know, yeah, they flew. They're not stupid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not stupid. Duke Tobin says it's his job to
Speaker 1: steer the ship away from bad decisions.
Speaker 7: National Football League Wild Card weekend kicks off tomorrow, two games,
Speaker 7: Rams and Carolina at four on ESPN fifteen thirty. Then
Speaker 7: Green Bay and the Bears in Chicago apparently in a snowstorm.
Speaker 7: They're saying Tomorrow night in Chicago at eight right here
Speaker 7: on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: That ought to be fun. And then Sunday here steers
Speaker 1: their team away from bad decisions.
Speaker 7: Don't no Mayor daily triple header triple header of playoff
Speaker 7: action on tomorrow. Yeah, baby, for Sunday, I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Sunday.
Speaker 7: Let's see Buffalo and Jacksonville forty nine Ers Eagles, also
Speaker 7: Patriots and Chargers. Coverage of twelve thirty all of those
Speaker 7: games Sunday on Fox Sports thirteen to.
Speaker 1: Sixty, not on seven hundred ww No, we got uc basketball.
Speaker 1: You see basketball? What's the choice there? Well, you gotta
Speaker 1: god basketball. Reds update eight.
Speaker 7: Reds avoided arbitration yesterday, getting new deals too did not.
Speaker 7: Pitcher Graham Ashcraft and catcher Tyler Stevenson likely headed to arbitration.
Speaker 1: But they will be back with the Reds.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Thanks jem.
Speaker 7: Let's see college football running back James Minor, the second
Speaker 7: out of West Virginia State and Winton Woods, has committed
Speaker 7: to the University of Cincinnati Bearcats. Jeff Caldwell, Joe Royer,
Speaker 7: Pride of Elder, Dante Corleone, the Pride of Cole Rain,
Speaker 7: and Jake Golday I have been invited to the NFL
Speaker 7: Combine and Indianapolis starting February twenty third.
Speaker 1: What about Manny Covey? What about him? What of Cincinnati Bearcats? Yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck to him. Said after the Memphis Bowl that
Speaker 1: he that he wasn't going.
Speaker 7: Anywhere offensive player, offensive player the the the Liberty Liberty
Speaker 7: Bowl and then he bolts.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, I'm not going anywhere. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to get back to work. Yeah. Where is he now?
Speaker 7: Checking out that Green Salad of Salvation? Elsewhere other than
Speaker 7: the Queen City.
Speaker 1: He's in the portal, seg Yeah, how that portal must
Speaker 1: be pretty big because there's a lot of players in there.
Speaker 7: They got a lot of there's a lot of room
Speaker 7: for those guys in there.
Speaker 1: Didn't I see like like twenty two guys from Colorado
Speaker 1: went into the portal.
Speaker 7: I think everybody's in the portal. They had just throw
Speaker 7: everybody in there.
Speaker 1: Throw them all.
Speaker 7: Scholarships, just throw I mean, you know, let them pay
Speaker 7: for their let them pay for their school.
Speaker 1: They're making all that money they can just take. Could
Speaker 1: just put everybody in the portal and then like like
Speaker 1: the balls in a bingo machine, then the names pop
Speaker 1: out and say, okay, this guy's going to Ohio State,
Speaker 1: and the draft guys going to draft.
Speaker 7: Of the the major teams, and then the team that
Speaker 7: wins the championship has the last pick. Like the NFL.
Speaker 7: Brandon soarsby, by the way, ohs the University of Cincinnati
Speaker 7: a million bucks for some kind of nil deal that
Speaker 7: he he he did before he left.
Speaker 1: So he's only going to make four million. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is taking care of that.
Speaker 7: Somebody is college basketball tonight those sixteen in o Miami RedHawks,
Speaker 7: let's go are rolling up north. They're taking on the
Speaker 7: Toledo Rockets, NKU and Milwaukee at seven on ESPN, fifteen thirty,
Speaker 7: Detroit Mercy and the Wright State, Tomorrow Providence and Xavier.
Speaker 7: Muskie's out to look the staff at three thirty on
Speaker 7: seven hundred WLW. Then tomorrow night the Cats and the
Speaker 7: Dogs going at it in Lexington. They big Blue Nation
Speaker 7: not happy either. Mississippi State, the home of the Cowboy,
Speaker 7: the Ohio sportscaster of the Year.
Speaker 1: We heard from the Cowboys since he won that award.
Speaker 7: Versus Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 1: Sunday talked him since he won the award, I sent
Speaker 1: him a text.
Speaker 7: I wanted him on yesterday or with the other day
Speaker 7: with Willie or somebody.
Speaker 1: And he is in Saint Lucia. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: he's probably out of the.
Speaker 7: The for the wedding of one Tommy Thrall tomorrow Tommy
Speaker 7: Thrall correcting it done? How about that? I think the
Speaker 7: I think Chris Wels is there the Cowboy, and I
Speaker 7: don't know who else. How about Marty No, he's in
Speaker 7: Atlanta tonight to Luke is doing the student radio for
Speaker 7: the Indiana Hoosiers. Then he heads for I guess it's
Speaker 7: fantasy camp coming up this week out.
Speaker 1: In Arizona, Arizona, Let's go.
Speaker 7: And then Sunday Bearcats and West Beller hopefully's calmed down.
Speaker 7: Uh they take Gone number twenty five u c F
Speaker 7: and South Florida u c F twelve and one on.
Speaker 1: The seasonal twelve and one yes sang.
Speaker 7: Number twenty five in the nation the e c HL Hockey.
Speaker 1: I like, who do you like in that game?
Speaker 7: Said e c HL Hockey tonight are beloved cyclones are
Speaker 7: on the road up against Fort Wayne.
Speaker 1: How about the cyclones. They're hanging in there, gotta get
Speaker 1: it done. But seg we're looking at the monitor over
Speaker 1: there to the left a little while ago. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: it looks like teeth Haro and I and Iran. You
Speaker 1: got you got fires burning, you got people out on
Speaker 1: the shore in Portland, Oregon front well it could could
Speaker 1: it could have been Portland to guys.
Speaker 7: They got guys in the middle of the streets shooting.
Speaker 1: The video pretty much looks the same from me from
Speaker 1: either place, either that or Minneapolis. You know you got that.
Speaker 1: You got that communist mayor out there in Portland now
Speaker 1: and she's like, she's, uh, you know, gonna she's gonna
Speaker 1: give Trump what for? Right, But you got my sources
Speaker 1: tell me that Iran couldn't fall by Monday. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take them over to like Venezuela. I don't, I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope, I don't. I don't think have any take
Speaker 1: over everything. But I think Israel might be uh, it
Speaker 1: might be doing something over there, but that that could
Speaker 1: that situation could develop over the weekend. So it's not
Speaker 1: looking not looking good there right now. And then you
Speaker 1: got Duke Tobin talking to the media executives and I
Speaker 1: want Tony Pike in the boys. I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna be breaking this down, slicing and dicing and
Speaker 1: dissecting everything.
Speaker 7: He had to say, what about tonight is six oh
Speaker 7: five when Lance gets ahold of this?
Speaker 1: Lance I saw yet he said that. He said the
Speaker 1: the news conference went for over an hour and there
Speaker 1: were forty seven questions. He kept tracking how many questions were.
Speaker 1: Of course he did little little, little known facts that
Speaker 1: we need. But he said, he said, it's his job
Speaker 1: to steer the ship away from many poor decisions. Tobin, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, Land steers his own ship, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: the ship of sports talk. Just ask him. So how's
Speaker 1: he how's Duke Tobin steering steering the ship away from
Speaker 1: poor decisions?
Speaker 7: They've hit a couple of icebergs, but there's still a float.
Speaker 1: A couple of icebergs out there, yep.
Speaker 7: And they've hit they've they hit eleven icebergs this season,
Speaker 7: so there's still afloat.
Speaker 1: But he says he's confident in himself and he's confident
Speaker 1: in the others in the organization. In his mind, they
Speaker 1: have a championship team. He says, the defense started to
Speaker 1: find its footing right towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1: That's correct. The light bulb went on over their head.
Speaker 1: What did? What did? Would it have been better had
Speaker 1: they found their their footing, you know, maybe in the
Speaker 1: in the first or second game and then gone on.
Speaker 7: Better The second game is when number nine went off
Speaker 7: with a turf toe.
Speaker 1: There's big Wit, big Wit. Big Wit is on TV
Speaker 1: right now, good man. And then you kept him, and
Speaker 1: then you had ton or a Tanya Rourke asking about
Speaker 1: the the play calling. And then I'm sure Tony Fike
Speaker 1: loved this part. The size of the scouting staff is
Speaker 1: not going to change, correct, he says. The size of
Speaker 1: the scouting staff is just right, and they have all
Speaker 1: the information they need, more more than more than you say.
Speaker 7: And these days that they got everything on a player,
Speaker 7: if he's got you know, I mean everything from head
Speaker 7: to toe and more.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So were you happy? Were you happy with
Speaker 1: what you heard out of Tobin today.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that he needed I mean, I think
Speaker 7: hopefully this this will be a uh a, you know,
Speaker 7: a regular thing with the Bengals, no matter if they
Speaker 7: win or lose. I mean, you know, Zach Taylor had
Speaker 7: his kind of like uh you know, post postseason press
Speaker 7: conference the other day, and usually you you only get
Speaker 7: to talk to mister Brown and uh Duke Tobin at
Speaker 7: the pre training camp luncheon. That's about and that's it.
Speaker 7: You don't you don't or you know, whenever Dan Horr
Speaker 7: does an interview with mister Brown, that's the only time
Speaker 7: you ever hear from him.
Speaker 1: But would it benefit the team though, seg if if
Speaker 1: they scheduled, say, you know during the bye week, we're
Speaker 1: going to have you're going to have access to Duke Tobin,
Speaker 1: We're going to have schedules, I.
Speaker 7: Mean halfway halfway through like sunder halfway through the season
Speaker 7: to a first half recap look to the set. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean I would think so that you know, maybe
Speaker 7: that's in the works. We don't take a little bit
Speaker 7: off the plate of Zach, but this is you know, this,
Speaker 7: this was a good thing that he got out there,
Speaker 7: and I mean he faced the questions. I mean there was,
Speaker 7: according you know what, Lance said, forty seven of them
Speaker 7: so and they weren't. You know, I don't think there
Speaker 7: was too many softballs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if if I was running the team, I
Speaker 1: would think it would be a good thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor can answer a lot of questions. Kenny does
Speaker 1: he does he have the ability to answer every single
Speaker 1: question that a lot of these reporters are going to have.
Speaker 1: I don't think because it's a big organization, I mean, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of things that he doesn't concentrate on. I
Speaker 1: mean he's coaching a team.
Speaker 7: He didn't, you know, he's just he has the personnel
Speaker 7: he has is who he has to play. And they
Speaker 7: they got to get the regular They got to get
Speaker 7: better personnel in there to do better. I mean, the
Speaker 7: defense has got to They got to get a pass rush.
Speaker 7: They're they're fine on offense except for the offensive line.
Speaker 7: And they get a few defensive linemen in there that
Speaker 7: know what they're doing and this and that that. You
Speaker 7: you plug them in there, you plug guys in with
Speaker 7: a draft, they're gonna pick tenth overall, probably get a
Speaker 7: pretty good player there. Maybe that's safety from Ohio State.
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's going to be there or not,
Speaker 7: but probably not. But and then you know, you go
Speaker 7: to free agency. They got some dough down there to
Speaker 7: start paying to pay guys to come here, and you know, hey,
Speaker 7: you know they you know, the way they played in
Speaker 7: the second half with Joe Burrow. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: I don't I'm no expert, but to rate that out,
Speaker 7: it's like he missed, you know, from week two to
Speaker 7: from week two to Thanksgiving, you know.
Speaker 1: And I mean, but that's what I'm saying. There's always
Speaker 1: questions in negotiations and scouting, and.
Speaker 7: You bring back Joe flacko, Yeah, And I mean I
Speaker 7: think that that trade was unbelievable, Laddie back that they
Speaker 7: call up Cleveland and say, hey, we want Joe Flacco
Speaker 7: and look what he did. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 7: know that those kind of trades don't happen, and it
Speaker 7: probably hacked the UH. You know, Baltimore probably was going nuts.
Speaker 1: And so with Pittsburgh, I mean, the game against the Jets,
Speaker 1: the game against the Bears. They should have won those games,
Speaker 1: there's no question, but they should have won the season
Speaker 1: finale against the UH, they.
Speaker 7: Should have won the season finale against the Browns. So
Speaker 7: but that's the way it is. So you look the
Speaker 7: next year. A lot of other teams are worse off
Speaker 7: than this one. Believe it. You want to be the Jets,
Speaker 7: want to be the Giants. You want to be that
Speaker 7: you want you want to be the Raiders.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I mean, you have this guy
Speaker 1: do this. You know. Maybe I'm not saying every week,
Speaker 1: but maybe three or four times throughout the regular seasoning
Speaker 1: and you take a lot of pressure off from a
Speaker 1: lot of discontent on on the part of the media.
Speaker 1: And it's not it's not like the Cincinnati media really
Speaker 1: hammers the team that hard anyway. But seg, we got
Speaker 1: to get out of here. Dan coming back tonight nine
Speaker 1: to midnight, double ship how about that? Wow, don't get
Speaker 1: overtime for that? Do you said he needed some help?
Speaker 1: So I'm helping out today. Say there you go, double dipping.
Speaker 1: I'm double dipping today.
Speaker 7: There's the there's the there's there's a true team player
Speaker 7: right there.
Speaker 1: I'm taking one for the team, Dan Carroll.
Speaker 7: In honor of everybody having a good weekend, we leave
Speaker 7: you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 1: Next week's highway patrol story is a very unusual one.
Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with.
Speaker 4: Us until then.
Speaker 1: Remember it isn't a car that becas it's the driver.
Speaker 1: This is Broderick Crawford saying see you next week, See
Speaker 1: you next week, seg. Seven hundred ww