WEBVTT - 1-9-26 Dan Carroll in for Willie 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.840 Back on the Big One, seven hundred W l W 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.560 twelve o eight on this beautiful Friday afternoon. A few 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.160 showers moving through, but the sun is coming out in 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.400 some places, and it is it feels like a spring 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.279 day out there, Dan Carolyn for Bill Cunningham. So much 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.520 going on in the city right now, and that's why 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.000 I've asked Chris Smitheman to be here to weigh in 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.160 on almost all. I don't know if we have enough 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.479 time to cover all of it, but Chris Smith Bean, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.320 Happy New Year to you. Welcome to seven hundred WLW. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.280 It is absolutely amazing all the wheels and all the 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.199 irons that are in the fire right now as it 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.920 relates to what's going on in the city of Cincinnati. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.279 No, I agree, And let's just be clear to your 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.920 listening audience. You know, when you asked me to come 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.320 on a lot of the stuff that we're talking about, whether. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.680 He yeah, happening. Yeah, it seems like it. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.319 It's really happenstance that. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.600 Was like that was like Monday and Tuesday this week, 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.800 and it seems like all that stuff happened years ago. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.600 I mean, you know, it was the mayor who came 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.360 out during his inauguration and told the people of Cincinnati, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.440 has said, look, if you want public safety, we're gonna 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.520 need you to dig a little bit deeper. We're gonna 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.640 we're gonna need some more money for that. Since then, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.360 we've had people at city Hall complaining about the cameras 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.920 that were supposed to be installed lights and cameras at 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.000 a West End park where another eleven year old girl 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.320 was killed. Charlie Luken is in the Inquiry today saying, hey, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.000 it's time to spend some of that money for the railroad. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.240 We've got reports now that the investigation into the police 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.400 chief Teresa Thig has found absolutely nothing. So that's another 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.200 multi million dollar settlement that was in the works. We 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.959 had protesters on the streets of Cincinnati last night, maybe 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.040 hoping to cash in like the those who are part 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.440 of the eight point one million dollar settlement for those 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.720 who were on the streets protesting and committing crimes during 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.760 the George Floyd riots. And then Chris Smitheman last night, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.000 we have the specter of Ken Kober coming out and 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.760 talking about an informant that he has a at City 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.360 Hall has told him that the city manager, Cheryl Long 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.880 is engaging in negotiations with the family of Rodney Hinton, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.440 and they want to engage in another multi million dollar 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.799 settlement with the family of Rodney Hinton, of course, who 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:30.079 was locked up right now claiming insanity for him driving 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.320 over and mowing down Sheriff's deputy Larry Henderson. I mean 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.840 the notion that, and we talked about this when the 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.600 settlement came out. I said, the message has gone forth 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.480 from Cincinnati the crime pays here and if we pay, 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.839 if the city pays a multi million dollar settlement to 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.880 the family of Rodney Hinton, are we doubling down on 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.960 that message that Look, here's a guy who is going 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.160 to stand trial for killing a law enforcement officer and 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.760 his family is going to reap millions from the city 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:05.480 of Cincinnati. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.520 I think we are first. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.040 My my condolences always go out, you know, and yours too. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.880 I'm sure when we have loss of life. So whether 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.080 it's you know, what happened with the ice officer, what 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.760 happened in the Hint and family, Hey, it's loss of life, life, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.280 and we're sensitive to the family. However, it does not 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.080 take away the accountability that someone had an automobile trying 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.799 to run over an ice agent and when you do that, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.080 that car becomes a weapon, and that means you can 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.240 be shot and lose your life. The same scenario playing 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:44.680 out when you have a gun, stolen vehicle running turn weapon. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.040 It is a it is a combination of disaster for 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.720 that officer, and it was a justified shooting. And so 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.400 I agree with you that my heart goes out for 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.400 the family to the young man who made a series 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.640 of terrible decisions. I pray that this city is not 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.640 positioning itself. The problem with that prayer is I think 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.120 the president is probably right, President Coober that that there 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.280 are discussions for some type of settlement with the family, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.480 which really just doesn't make any sense. You had a 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.640 litany of things that you asked me. The A point 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.480 one million dollars of served should never have happened, you know, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.400 dealing with a chief Fiji, what a great police chief, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.799 a colonel. I worked with her as the former vice 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.000 mayor chair of Law and Public Safety. It's not about 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.000 always agreeing with the professional right. The point is how 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.800 they treated her and their conduct absolutely unacceptable. And you 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.440 are absolutely right there's going to be a huge settlement, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.600 Dan Carroll, how they're treating how they treated Chief Washington, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.760 the fire chief. That's another big settlement that's coming. I 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.720 think it's going to be three to five million dollars 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.200 for him and his termination. You know, the tax increase 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.640 is not about police to your listening audience. This is 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.560 about the operation of the street car. This is about 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.719 them doing affordable housing. It's about all these other things. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.800 And what they're trying to use is use police officers 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:13.120 to pit people like me who support law enforcement against 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.600 them saying that they want to increase taxes. So when 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.000 they make the move to increase taxes, and this is 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.279 really important to detail, and they pass it emergency, they 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.200 make it difficult for anyone to petition their government to 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.599 say hey, I don't want you to taxes. So there 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.400 are a lot of moves that they're trying to make. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.120 And on Monday, every member of Council has to vote 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.760 their conscience. They do not have to vote for executive session. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.720 So there could be members of Council saying, hey, I 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.880 think if we're actually in negotiations with the Hinton family, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.560 the taxpayers of Cincinnati deserve to know that. As a 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.960 matter of fact, anybody who's paying taxes, those who live 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.840 in the region who are working for proper gatable but 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.840 lift somewhere else, but they're paying into the city's taxes. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.440 All of us should be able to be You should 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.120 be able to Dan Carroll be able to hear that conversation. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.359 Members of Council should not go into executive session on 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.239 Monday with the city manager to discuss this. You should 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.680 be all in the public for everybody to hear. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.480 Very important, and it's not only the message that goes 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 out to the public, but it's also the message that 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.840 goes out to law enforcement, and not just Cincinnati police 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.800 but Hamilton County Sriff's deputies. I mean, one of their 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.960 own was killed in this incident. And when you talk about. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.320 My heart, let me let me let me let me 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.719 stop you. I made a mistake. Let me know I 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.560 made a mistake. Let me deeply extend my condolences. Also 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.000 to the sheriff who was out there doing traffic control 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:44.480 at a UC graduation and the father run him down 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.359 in cold blood. I am so sorry for their lass. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.240 So I've apologize for interrupting you, but carry on on. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.440 I had Ken Coberan last night and he reached out 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.960 and had the liaison from the Hamilton County sharaff deputy 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.440 who was in that position immediately after this this incident happened, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.640 and he said, look, I need to tell the family 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.080 this before this gets out in the public. And it 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:14.200 just imagined the dismay of that family who thinks that, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.080 you know, we live in a society where you know, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.600 the only reason he was mowed down is because he 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.920 had that uniform on and he was standing there doing 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.600 his job, and for he had absolutely nothing to do 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.400 with this, with this situation. And now this is this 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.840 is an absolute disgrace. It's a slap in the face 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.240 to law enforcement, to the Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy. And 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.520 I would say, Chris smitheman to law enforcement all across 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:42.000 the Tristate. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.000 Now I will agree with you. And let me say 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.240 something pointed. We just had an election on November fourth 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:54.280 of twenty twenty five, and voters voted for this mayor 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.880 overwhelmingly and voted for this council overwhelmingly. We have fifty 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.280 two neighborhoods and it didn't matter where you were except 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.320 for Sailor Park, Saddamsville, parts of price Ville, parts of 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:13.320 Westwood overwhelmingly voted for this. So elections have consequences. And 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.920 for the twenty five percent or twenty three percent that 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.240 showed up, right, So just for basic maths, we've got 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.200 seventy five percent that didn't show up. And so those 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.920 who are talking and didn't show up that were registered voters, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:31.160 they also are responsible for these outcomes. We've got to learn, man, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.640 that elections are serious, that you've got to show up 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.760 and participate. Because I would say out of this day 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.440 one hundred and sixty thousand people that didn't vote, there's 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.079 at least thirty or forty thousand of them that share 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.079 the like minded that you and I have about law enforcement, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.920 but they didn't show up and participated in that local election. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.280 So I hope they don't do that in the midterm elections, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.560 which are incredibly important coming up in this November. We 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.640 have a gubernatorial race. We've got Judge Winkler on the ballot, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.920 We've got Leah Dincin on the ballot in the Hamilton 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.240 County Common Police Court. We've got some serious elections coming up, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.800 and I just hope voters come out. They're looking at 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.440 these situations and they say, well, what do I need 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.080 to do about it? You got to register your people 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.800 to vote. My daughter's going off to college. I'm going 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.760 to make sure she comes home to vote. You're not 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.839 going to register where you're going to college, honey, You're 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.040 coming home and you're participating on the home front. This 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.720 is where you're going to cast or a vote in 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.680 twenty twenty six, and I'll be working and educating my 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.320 daughter on how to vote in that election. We're not 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.920 going down there voting for law. We're voting for law 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.680 and order in our county, in our city. For those 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.240 six thousand or seven thousand peace officers across the United 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.480 States of America. Our military personnel got a son who 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.480 just came home a year year and a half ago 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.080 from serving four years in the military. It matters. And 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.520 to see those National Guard members shot one kill other 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.719 shot in the head. I understand that he's coming out 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.760 of it, but he was almost murdered right in the street. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.880 To have people marching downtown, Dan Carroll for what occurred. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.959 They are disconnected from a person. Look, she tried to 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.960 run down an ice officer. These are split second decisions 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.800 that people are making. If you try to kill an 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.560 officer and expect for them to defend their life, Dan Carroll, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.520 and I just don't understand why we're in this society 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.280 where accountability is lost. I was a parent, you're a parent. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.040 I mean raising young children. The reality of it is, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.920 there used to be a time where the teacher would call, hey, 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.959 your son or your daughter did this. I'm siding with 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.719 the teacher and the administration right now. Man, We've got 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.400 people showing up to the schools. They want no accountability 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.280 for these accountability for these children, and we're seeing the 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:44.960 results of it every day in our streets. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.640 Yeah, you know, Chris, I don't know what they were 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.480 channing on the streets of downtown Cincinnati last night, but 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.640 I know there was a sizeable demonstration. There's some question 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.960 about whether or not they had a permit in order 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.760 to block streets the way they were doing. But in 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.720 any case, in some of the other cities, I heard 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.440 chanting where they were talking about how they openly support Hamas. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.920 They were talking about how Christina, the head of Homeland Security, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.319 must be taken out and hanged. They were talking about 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.440 how ice officers must be killed. So these individuals who 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.880 are on the streets of Cincinnati, I don't know if 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.360 they were using that exact same chance, but they are 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.400 of the same mindset, and they are in league with 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:29.720 other individuals who are talking openly now about supporting terrorist 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.960 organizations and calling for the execution of those who are 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.760 doing nothing more than doing their job and exercising the 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.320 policies and the laws that are in place in this country. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.840 I mean, what kind of lesson is that for young 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.839 people who are looking at this from the sidelines and saying, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.960 just because you have a disagreement with a policy of 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.160 your government, is this the way you're supposed to go 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.800 out and act? Is this the kind of the kind 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.040 of action that you're supposed to be. It's one thing 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.800 to go out and protest. I mean, look, First Amendment, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.960 protest all day long. But to call for executions and 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.199 call for ICE agents to be killed, I think that 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:12.600 might be crossing the line. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.720 It's insane. And you know what frustrates me. A eleven 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.840 year old girl shot in the West End on a 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.440 playground doing what she was supposed to do, being a 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.400 little girl on a playground, murdered, no suspects, and the 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.920 reality of it was city Hall in the mayor and 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.280 the manager failed because they were asked to have cameras 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.600 and lights in this area and failed to do it right. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.319 And so they're marching downtown for ice and for somebody 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.680 maybe they didn't even know, right, but nobody's marching for 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.120 that little girl. Nobody's marching and demanding black lives matter. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.280 The mural that's in front of city Hall. They seem 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:55.360 to not care where it matters. We can't have the 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.840 apathy where eleven year old girls are being slaughtered in 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.840 our street and didn't see a march like this downtown 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.800 with so much energy. And now one word said about 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.520 that little girl who was murdered on that playground a 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.240 week ago and nothing about that. See, that's the part. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.280 That's the disconnect that I have with the Democrats, right, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.280 They're always focused on the wrong thing. You're saying black 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.640 lives matter. If that's what your positions are, I want 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.360 to see it with your actions. Where was that march 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.960 for that little girl, demanding from the community, whoever killed her? 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.680 We want to catch you. We're gonna put money behind 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.000 behind it. We're gonna find it. And by the way, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.319 hey mayor, hey members of council, you fail to have 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.720 cameras there. The community asked you to have cameras there 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.000 and you didn't the last point about the little girl 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.800 who was murdered. The West End overwhelmingly voted for this 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.719 mayor and this council. So, by the way, the elections 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.679 have consequences, Dan Carroll, here's what I want to have happened. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.760 I want to see you get your own show. I 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.640 want to be an advocate. I love hearing you on 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.520 the radio right so the minute the people that are 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.360 there who make the decision that seven hundred wow, we 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.200 want to see Dan Carroll with more time. Who are 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.520 who are? He's shocking the conscious. I'm did serious about this. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.840 We've got to have people on the radio who can 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.120 speak directly to these kind of issues. And you're one 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.520 of those guys that do what. I want to see 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.560 you with your own show. Every day I turn my 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.440 radio on and I can find and listen to common sense. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.040 Well, Chrismathervan, before I let you go, let me get 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.720 your comments on what Charlie Luken had to say to 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.120 the Inquirer this morning. You know that Charlie Luken's there 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.040 and a nice picture of Charlie Luke. I mean he 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.040 must be taking some bills or something, because this guy 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.320 is not aging. He's looking at me. He's looking pretty good. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.360 One point six billion dollars. Chris Smitherman, You and I 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.000 talked multiple times about this railroad settlement as it was 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.440 progressing through. They've they passed it, they got it done. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.520 The money is starting to come in now and Charlie 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.680 looking is saying, hey, you've got this money, it's time 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.960 to spend it. He says, I'm driving around. It's like, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.800 you know, like a roller coaster, right, I'm bumping and 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.880 bouncing around all over the place, and he says, let's 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.760 get some of this money spent. So how does this happen? 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.560 How do politicians have a pot full of money but 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.760 yet they're moving very slowly when it comes to spending 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:15.240 that money. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.880 Well, first of all, I've got a lot of respect 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.800 for Charlie Luken, a blue dog Democrat. It's hard to 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.400 find him, right John Cramley, than the Charlie Lookan and 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.200 the Tom Luken's that an age right, But the reality 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.760 of it is is he's here's what, here's what Charlie 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.720 is sitting the message. Charlie Lucan sits on that board 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.680 or did sit on that board, and he's saying Listen, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.240 I have a brand. You put my reputation behind this, right, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.200 and I can see that you're being irresponsible. So this 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.240 is a big step for him to come out in 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.040 the public and say, listen, the money is here. This 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.440 mayor and this council they don't have their act together 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.400 to actually spend the money and make sure that we're 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.920 fixing the potholes. Don't call me. The money is here, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.320 So he is, he is. He is signaling to all 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.400 of us, hey, the money is here, but this mayor 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.680 and this council, they don't have their act together. I 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.000 believe Charlie Lucan, just like I believe Signal ninety nine, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.040 just like I believe President ken Kober that all the 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.800 things that they're putting out in the public, that there's 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:19.280 negotiation that's happening. There's going to be executive session on Monday. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.680 That's really real. The eight point one million that you 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.080 talked about really did happen. The little girl was murdered. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.000 There is no response from that. Fiji is going to 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.800 get matter of fact. Frost, Brown and Todd, if you're listening, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.280 thank you for having the integrity to say there's nothing 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.440 here under the hood. I mean This is a woman 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.480 that gave us thirty five years of her life. There 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.480 is not one blemish in her dog, one record for Fiji. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.440 And absolutely they're going to pay her some millions of 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.800 dollars for their reckless termination of her. Matter way, they're 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.160 still paying her. They're still paying her right now. She's 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.360 on the payroll. The question is going to be how 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.160 are they going to deal with it? And Frost Brown 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.680 and Todd, Dan Carroll couldn't find anything. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.720 They couldn't find one thing on it. Not a thing. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.000 We could do the whole three hours today about what's happening. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.520 No, no, no, I'll be listening to your show. And 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.440 what I hope people do is they call your show 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.360 and engage. I love hearing from callers like giving us 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.960 responses and feedback so I know I'm not out here 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.080 alone and I'm not losing my dog of mine. People 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.080 can find me at vote Smithman on X. Thank you 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:23.920 Dan Carroll for the opportunity. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.960 Brother at vote Smithman on the EX. Chris Smithman, you're 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.960 the best, the one time vice mayor of the City 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.920 of Cincinnati. Thanks for the time today. Keep up the 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.320 good work and we'll be talking again before too long. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:32.840 Thank you sir. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.560 All Right, there you go. Chris Smithman. Always great to 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.760 have him on. Dan Carroll in for Bill cunning in 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:49.960 seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW. I'm Dan Carroll, Glad 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.800 to be here, Glad you are here as well. Always 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.520 glad to welcome in my next guest. You know, one 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.399 of the things I talk about a lot behind this 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.160 microphone is media of the national media and how things 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.199 are covered by the national media. I have a lot 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.119 of criticism, and I think it's criticism that's well earned 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.679 because I spend so much time in television and radio 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.040 and I've got a pretty good idea how things work 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.600 behind the scenes. And there's one place you can go 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.919 to get all the coverage of what is happening in 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.560 national media, and that is NewsBusters dot Org MRC. And 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.560 Curtis Holk is the managing editor there, and I've had 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:25.960 them on a lot, but I think this is the 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.160 first time we've had a chance to talk in twenty 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.919 twenty six and Curtis hol Happy New Year and welcome 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.480 back to seven hundred WLW. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.360 Happy New Year, dang, could to be with you, Good 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:36.640 to be. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.480 With you as well. Give me and first of all 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.600 before we do anything. I always like to give credit 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.280 where credit is due because I am I am very 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:50.119 critical of the NBC's of the world, the ABC's, the CBS's, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.880 the CNNs and all the rest of it. New York Times, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.680 the LA Times, all that stuff. But when something happens 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.960 that deserves credit, I want to give credit. And NBC 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.760 News the day after the day of the incident in 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.240 Minneapolis where the Ice agent unfortunately had to shoot and 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.440 kill that woman, Tom Lomas, and they had an analyst 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:17.679 there and they did a segment that was honest, a 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.639 segment that was forthright, and they analyzed frame by frame 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.800 the video from that scene, and they did an on 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.240 I thought they did a very honest and straightforward assessment 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.960 of that. So I want to give credit, especially to 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.040 Tom Lomas. I mean, this guy, when he was making 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.800 his bones, he was covering the Trump campaign. You could 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.560 always count on him being a reliable Trump basher, a 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.960 reliable tool for the left to get the word of 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.280 the agenda out there as best he could. But in 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.560 this instance, they did an honest analysis of that video 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.719 frame by frame, and so at least starting off this conversation, 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.320 I want to give them credit for that. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.600 Well, you know, it's interesting to see the pivot in 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:07.120 the media that Yamas has been running a semi decent newscast, 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.000 a pretty decent newscast since he took over for Lester Halt, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.280 and with what's going on at CBS with Barry Wise 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.960 and Tony Dakoppel, we could be looking at a situation 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:19.880 where two of the three network evening newscasts aren't completely 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:27.359 like unhinged liberal tears, liberal anger, gnashing of teeth. But 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:29.879 the reason that segment, I'll just say real quick, is 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.640 really good is because Tom Winner is the law enforcement 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.439 reporter there. It was almost like a football play, you know, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.520 bringing it frame by frame, kind of circling things, kind 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:42.560 of pointing things out. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.520 And he also did a good thing, damn by saying. 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.719 Basically talking about what they know and what they don't know. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.359 And it's not weakness on the part of the news 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.359 media that if something is unclear, like we none of 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.119 us know what the woman was saying to these ice 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.920 officers and the moments before, if anything, but that's something 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.640 that we may want to know. It may enhance the 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:10.159 picture of what happened the other day. And you know, 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.639 I think the media so often want to reach a 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:17.760 certain conclusion that fulfills their preset biases that they're not 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.880 willing to step back and just be like, Okay, well 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.040 we know this, but we don't know this. And that's 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.399 really where we've run into a problem with trust in 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:25.919 the media. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.720 Yeah, and if you are one of those that gets 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:34.160