1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Watch him playoff baseball on the I have a bigger 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: TV here in my studio than I have at home. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: I just got a new TV from Voss Appliance. I'm 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: gonna get a much bigger one when I get kind 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: of a break in the action here. But when's that 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: going to Because I've got dismantle. I still have one 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: of those old fashioned home entertainment centers, which mandates the 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: smaller TV. But I want to get one of those 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: screens that's so big it looks like I'm taking the 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: throw in on the sideline during the Liverpool game. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: But yeah, watching playoff baseball. 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Detroit leads Cleveland one nil in the fourth, third deciding 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: game of the Wildcard Series. I like watching baseball this 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: time of year. I've always loved baseball. Seawan Casey said 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: that to me. Sean Casey said to me once double 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: m one. I hear you talk about baseball. I can 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: tell how much you love it, and he's right, I do. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: But the Pirates have just ruined it on a local level. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: But what's going on now? I mean, so many good stories, 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: so many related to the Pirates. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Jameson Tyle. We just heard him pitching Game three for 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: the Cups. David Bedner. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Save for the Yankees last night, keeps their season alive. 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Mars Guy, Fat Guy xbuco Guy, I love it, what's 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: not to love? And then staying local, Mason Miller the 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: different Bethel Park. He has pitched eight innings in the 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: relief for San Diego in this postseason and posted eight strikeouts, 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: eight batters, eight whiffs, and he threw a pitch yesterday 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and four point five miles per hour, and 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that is the fastest pitch ever in the MLB postseason 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: dating back to when they were able to start keeping 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: that well it probably always could keep it, but they 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: made it a thing in two thousand and eight. So 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than playoff baseball except you know, English 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Premier League soccer and playoff hockey. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: And the pen was opener Tuesday, but you get the idea. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: And I mentioned earlier how ironic it is that Cincinnati 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: better organization than the Pirates, wants to win, prioritize it, 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: which the Pirates don't much better hands on management for drafting, developing. 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: They got Terry Francne in the dugout and all they 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: thought from their trouble was two playoff games where they 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: got demolished by the Dodgers and out in two days. Now, 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: that's better what the Pirates are doing. I'm not sure 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: it's that much better, but their heart's in the right place, 45 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: so is their organization. And they had the fun of 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the race to make the playoffs. 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: That's really in baseball with the long. 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Season, hundred and sixty two games, that's more fun than 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: the actual playoffs. 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: I think that race. Let's go to Harrison. 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Harrison, you're own with double m. 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: Good day, mister Madden, I said, good day, Mark. 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: What do you think the chances are being that Gavin 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: McKenna plays in Penn State this upcoming season, that he 55 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: gets so immersed into the western Pennsylvania culture and that. 56 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: He pulls a cutter Gautier and. 57 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: Gets drafted by some bummy team first Overall, one of 58 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: the things that concerns me is that we get. 59 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just let me just cut you off. That's 60 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. He's not gonna draw a line 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: from playing at Penn State to wanting to play for 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: the Penguins. 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: That's just not gonna happen. Anything else. 64 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: No, I just figured that, Okay. 65 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Goodbye, goodbye. It's a stupid thing to say. You're stupid 66 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: it And when I ridicule you because your point stupid, 67 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: don't then try to repeat the point stupid. 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: Let's got out of one man who's not stupid. 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: He's our good friend, the Hebrew hammer, Hebrew hammer, yuk shamash. 70 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: Yuk shamash mark. 71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for fitting me in. Hey, that guy's vite 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 5: that his voice sounded like Mike de Corsi. 73 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't Mike the Corsi. It did sound. Now are 74 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: you mad because I didn't have you on right away? 75 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Wow? 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: I'm not mad, But hey, you want to do you want. 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: To jump in the front of the line, which had 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I known that guy was an imbecile, I would have. 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate it. 80 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: Hey, do you believe the guy for the U from 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: Bethel Park in Waynesburg? Do you believe he really threw 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 5: the ball one hundred and four miles an hour? 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: You know what? I actually thought the same thing. 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems a figure pucked out of nowhere, 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It does. 86 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: I got I got to because they have the technology. 87 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 6: I mean, the guys were throwing the ball like Chapman 88 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: maybe one oh one for like thirty forty years, and 89 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, this guy beats it by three 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: miles an hour, three and a half months. 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 5: I'm just not buying it. Yeah, I'm not buying it. 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 5: I just think it's like MLB just trying to grab 93 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: people in. I mean it's silly. 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 7: I mean, he's throwing the ball fast. I mean, any 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 7: which way you cut it. 96 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: But I'm not buying one hundred and four. 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: So you are coming up with a conspiracy theory involving 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Mason Miller supposedly throwing the ball abuck four and a half. 99 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Hey, and what's. 100 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: One more thing? 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: Do you really think that gets people to watch baseball? 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Him having thrown that ball that fast, them saying that rather. 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: Well, it gets people to talk about it. I mean, 104 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 5: here we are talking about it. If he'd threw one 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 5: oh one. I'm not calling your show to say, oh boy, 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: he threw it at one oh one. I mean, so, yeah, 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: I can kind of do so. 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: I can blame him. 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: You can blame him, you can, you can you know 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: who you can blame Jugs Gunn. 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: That's your cue. That's a mush whammy. Let's cut it, Dan, 112 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: that was pretty good, Dan, you're on with Mark What 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: up man? What up man? 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 8: Yeah? I was talking about non contact injuries in the NFL. 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw or talk about this yet, 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 8: but great, this year is pretty high compared to other 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 8: years already. 118 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: I think that's coincidence. What do you think? 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 8: Well, I thought it either would be coincidence or like 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 8: I saw something about the turf fields. I mean I 121 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 8: guess they've always been there. 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, how many? How many artificial turf fields are there, 123 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: like the rubber type thing? 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's like seven or eight. 125 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think the NFL should mandate that all fields 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: your natural grass. 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 8: Oh okay, Tom, just. 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: Wishing for to my fifteen state had the artificial turf. 129 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I think, well, here's what I would do if I 130 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: ran the NFL. And there's no excuse for this not happening, 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: because because they make billions of dollars, make every stadium 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: have a roof, Make every state, Tom, have natural grass. 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: You can do natural grass under a roof. It's been done, 134 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: You take it in, you take it out. It's a 135 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: great expense. But this is the NFL. 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it should be a priority. I don't 137 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 8: know if it is causing injuries. But I guess the 138 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 8: player safety thing they always talk about. 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, now let's let's hold it, BROV. 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: You do realize that the NFL's concern for player safety 141 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: goes not at all beyond lip service. They don't care 142 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: if these guys live or die. They just don't care 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: about these injuries. They just they're easily replaced. The brands sells, 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the team sells the TV cells. Like the NFL doesn't 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: need stars. The NFL could put a totally different group 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: of players out there one week and nobody would even 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: notice that. That's just how ingrain the NFL is in 148 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: American culture. 149 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's truth. Uh. I don't believe they do anything 150 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 8: for the safety. 151 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: No, and not at all. It's next man up. Thank 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: you for the call, BROV. Can you get more calls in? 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: That was actually pretty fun? Well not the first call. 154 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: He was an imbecile and we got Jerry Dulac talking 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Steelers at the bottom of the hour at one oh 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: five to nine. 157 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Hates Buddy Diver and I just love good news. 158 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: It's soft and I use a bunch of pillows and 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: I swore the exit one yep. 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: I hate the bye week, especially Thursday the bye week. 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, tomorrow, we'll get a lot of Penguins 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: talk going hopefully with the final roster, well the roster 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: for opening night. I mean, this guy's gonna be going 164 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: back and forth between Pittsburgh and Wilkes a lot this year. 165 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: That's what happens with rebuilding teams. But I'm curious if 166 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, wave Ryan Graves. He's looked off 167 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: at camp according to oe Atchari. I think they'll keep him. 168 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure they will. But does he dress every night? 169 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: How many minutes does he get? 170 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: What's his role? 171 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Music has been using rustin Raquel and the PK fairly often. 172 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: I've always thought they should use top six guys in 173 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the PK to have an attacking element. My favorite penalty 174 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: kill ever was when Marie Lemue did it for the Penguins, 175 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: and he scored thirteen short handed goals in nineteen eighty 176 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: eight eighty nine, which is still in a NHL record. 177 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: I was done it with Sinding Gino years ago. 178 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: When Gino first came up, he was considered the best 179 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: penalty killer on Russia's national team, the senior team, as 180 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: a cheerleader as a teenager, I said cheerleader. 181 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: That's weird that I said that. 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Uh, But just a lot of questions with the Penguins. 183 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't expect them to come anywhere 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: near the playoffs, and the or they miss it by 185 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: the better, but I expect it to be very interesting 186 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: with a lot of. 187 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: Different sidebars and storylines. 188 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: If you only watch a team when it wins, if 189 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: that's all that matters to you, you need to get 190 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: a life. 191 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: You need to get some loyalty. You need to be 192 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: a fan. 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: Just supporting a team when it wins and going crazy, 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: ballistic mad when they don't. That's just not being a fan. 195 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: One thing about me. I know how to be a 196 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: fan my two teams. I'm unflinchingly loyal to you, Stealer fans. 197 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: You can really take a lesson from me in that regard. 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Dulex up next next two games man Cleveland at Accrasture 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: than at Cincinnati, and they don't have Burrow got to 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: win them. You're five and one, like I said, you're 201 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: five and one, and you'll be in first place in 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: the division by one game and probably two. 203 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: When the Steelers go to Baltimore in December. 204 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Seventh, you will absolutely be in the driver's seat if 205 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: you win these next two games. And for those who 206 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: think it's you know, the be all and all to 207 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: win a playoff game, your best bet is to win 208 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: the division, have a home playoff game, by far your 209 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: best bet. 210 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Anything else will just smack of the same old story. 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Start out with partly 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: Cloudy's Guys tomorrow, then mostly sunning in the afternoon. 239 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: Can you draw off and happy? 240 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: But they have no real impact in this world, unless, 241 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: of course, they're good enough to make the NFL the exit. 242 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: One oh five nine Steelers with a bye week, they 243 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: host Cleveland one week from Sunday, joining us not to 244 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: talk Black and Gold football. He covers the team for 245 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: the Post Gazette. It's Jerry Dulac. Jerry uh, You've reported 246 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: that Jalen Ramsey's going to be out a couple of weeks. 247 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: How will that shake up that Steeler secondary. 248 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 9: Well, Mark, I will tell you he will be out 249 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 9: as long as Joey Porter Jr. Was out, so you 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 9: can figure it out from there. And I mean it 251 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 9: just it just limits their options because he plays so 252 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 9: many different positions. Now that being said, Mark, you know, 253 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 9: Justin Jefferson had what ten catches the other day and 254 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 9: I know, of course Ramsey was out of the game, 255 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 9: you know, into the fourth quarter, but they never put 256 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 9: Jalen Ramsey on Justin Jefferson and I was surprised one 257 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 9: that they didn't do it. That's why they brought him 258 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 9: in for the Jamar chases and Justin Jefferson's of the 259 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 9: world and then two you know, Jefferson has five catches 260 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 9: in the first quarter, he ends up with ten, and 261 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 9: I was surprised they never put Ramsey on him, you know, 262 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 9: to travel with him the whole game. Now, I'm bringing 263 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 9: that up because obviously they like to deploy him in 264 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 9: different spots throughout the game, and that's what they're going 265 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 9: to miss. 266 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 267 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 9: You know, with Jalen Ramsey being. 268 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Out of the line, Jalen Warnol's thought for a couple 269 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: of weeks can gain well establish himself as the number 270 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: one back or does that go to war and when 271 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: he returns. 272 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think there's any issue about that. But 273 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 9: I think what you saw, you know, when he was 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 9: with the Eagles, Mark, I always liked Kenneth gain Well, 275 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 9: what you know, limited amounts that I saw at him. 276 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 9: I thought he had a quick burst. You know, he's 277 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 9: not a big forty guy. I think he runs like 278 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 9: a four or five, so it's not like he has 279 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 9: blinding speed, but he plays fast and he's elusive, and 280 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 9: he's quick to cut. And you know, that was a 281 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 9: high for him the other day, and so I didn't 282 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 9: the career high in yards. I'm wondering if it was 283 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 9: career high and carries. I never did go to look 284 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 9: and see if that was the case. But I mean, 285 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 9: he was very impressive the other day. And the other 286 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 9: thing the Steelers liked about him since training camp and 287 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 9: you knew he was going to be a big part 288 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 9: of this offense more than just a backup, was that 289 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 9: he's very good out of the backfield. 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 10: And so. 291 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 9: You know, I think he did himself well to prove 292 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 9: that he needs and to continue to play and he 293 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 9: will continue to fly. 294 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: The weird part about Gainwell and Warren Is they previously 295 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: had filled basically the same role, which is third down back, 296 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of a change of pace back as well. Caleb 297 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Johnson's more of a first two domes back. And he 298 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: got a few carries at DUB one, but not very many. 299 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, And but at one point there he carried the 300 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 9: ball four straight plays Mark, And I think that was 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 9: important for him and for them. And I think he 302 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 9: got like seven yards and nine yard you know, in 303 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 9: those carries. And I think that was a big step 304 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 9: for him to show one that they if they need 305 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 9: to use him, they will, And two, I think it 306 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 9: was a big step for his big boost for his 307 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 9: confidence after you know, the kickoff gaff and not even 308 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 9: playing in game three. You know, he only had two 309 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 9: snaps in each of the first two games. So I 310 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 9: think it was a big step for them to see 311 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 9: that he can do that. But more importantly, it was 312 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 9: a big step for him. And so yeah, I think, yeah, 313 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 9: he's a one in first and second down back. 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 10: Mark. 315 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 9: He's not very good in protection, despite the fact that 316 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 9: when he came here he said he wanted to show 317 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 9: him how good he was, and he's not very good 318 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 9: at all. 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 10: But Jalen Warren is the best. 320 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 9: Of the three in protection on third down, but Kenny 321 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 9: Gainwell is very good out of that backfield. 322 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: By the way, Jerry, you were right on the money. 323 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Gainwell career high in yards, touchdowns, and carries in the 324 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: game at Dublin. 325 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: Is the AFC North falling apart? Mike? 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: The Steelers win because somebody got or is Baltimore gonna 327 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: get healthy and regroup? 328 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 9: Well, Baltimore schedules going to ease up too. I mean, 329 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 9: so this is week five, so for of their first 330 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 9: five opponents were twenty twenty four playoff teams. And the 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 9: fact that the Chiefs put up thirty seven on them, Mark, 332 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 9: and that's the second time in four games they've allowed 333 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 9: at least thirty seven points. That does not goode well 334 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 9: for their defense. But hey, look the Steelers last year, 335 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 9: you know, we've talked about this before, Mark, they were 336 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 9: ten and three going into December and in first place 337 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 9: against a Bravens team in which Lamar Jackson was having 338 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 9: an MVP season. So yeah, they're off to a slow start. 339 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 9: I'm not going to dismiss them, but you know, you know, 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 9: the Steelers are three and one, and they're doing what 341 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 9: they have to do. You know, I thought if they 342 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 9: came through that stretch three and one, day'd be okay. Sure, 343 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 9: four and oh would have been nice. But they're three 344 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 9: and one and they're in a good spot. It's a 345 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 9: long way to go, but they're off to a good 346 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 9: start and they're doing what they have to do to 347 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 9: winning those games well. 348 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: Jerry, I hate to extrapolate results too far down the road, 349 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: but I'll go the next two weeks. If the Steelers 350 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: beat Cleveland at home and then when at Cincinnati with 351 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: out Burrow, I think they'll be in the driver's seat 352 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: to win the division for the next month or so. 353 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: Certainly when they play at Baltimore December. 354 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 9: Seventh, Mark, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, 355 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 9: there's no question about it, because that puts them at 356 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 9: five and one, and that's why this is a good. 357 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 10: Little stretch for them. 358 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 9: Now, their schedule gets more difficult later, unlike the Ravens. Now, 359 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 9: the Ravens schedule is going to be a little bit 360 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 9: more difficult because they finished in first place, so they 361 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 9: get all the other division winners as well. But the 362 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 9: Steelers schedule gets harder later, and we saw what happened 363 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 9: last year. I'm not saying the same thing's going to happen, 364 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 9: but hey, look I'm with you, Mark. They get you know, 365 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 9: the next two games set up very well for them, 366 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 9: and Cleveland coming off the buy and then going to 367 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 9: Cincinnati with that Joe Burrow. Yeah, it's you know, the 368 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 9: schedule doesn't get too difficult for them until later and 369 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 9: if they can build themselves a little bit of a 370 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 9: cushion like they did last year though too, Mark, But 371 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 9: if they can do that, then yeah, going into December, 372 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 9: they could be and maybe should be in the driver's. 373 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Seat, Jerry. I said they'd be in the driver's seat. 374 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: I didn't say they would hold on to it indefinitely. 375 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 10: I know you did, Mark. I noticed your choice of words. 376 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: We're talking to Jerry do like he's brought to us 377 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: by bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy, Jerry. 378 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: I think Herbig's been a ball of fire? Is he 379 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: worthy of more snaps than high Smith? And I saw 380 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Tarrell Austin said, as he has before, that they might 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: use all three Edge guys at once. 382 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, and they thought they've done that a number of times, Marks, 383 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 9: so that that's nothing new. But you know, Herbig's a 384 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 9: different type of player. He's an up the field, go 385 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 9: get the quarterback guy, and but he makes with that 386 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 9: quickness and you know his pass rush moves, he works 387 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 9: very hard on it. You know, he'll dip underneath. You know, 388 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 9: he almost has that like James Harrison move, which James 389 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 9: Harrison showed him that a couple of years ago. He's 390 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 9: so quick off the edge. And high Smith is a 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 9: different type of player. High Smith's better against the run, 392 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 9: and he's also a very good you know, he's a 393 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 9: power rusher. So you know, he's you know, uh, you know, 394 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 9: it just depends on what type of packages they want 395 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 9: to use and what the what the situation is. But 396 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 9: I mean her big obviously. Look, that's why they like 397 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 9: the guy, and that's why they give him plenty of 398 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 9: playing time and plenty of opportunities. 399 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: He's kind of a catch twenty two though, isn't he? 400 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 10: Jair? 401 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Because I love how he plays, I love his speed, 402 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: I love his drive, I love everything about him. But 403 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: at his size, the more snaps, the more risk. 404 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 9: Uh, Mark, You're right about that. But let me because 405 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 9: you brought him up, let me point up something else too, 406 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 9: is that Jack Sawyer has played very well the last 407 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 9: two games, and you've noticed him in the backfield, and 408 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 9: so I bring that up because Jack Sawyer is the 409 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 9: bigger body guy like high Smith, and you have herbig 410 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 9: so quick off the edge. You know, Alex Highsmith one 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 9: costs you a lot of money, and two he keeps 412 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 9: getting injured with those soft tissue muscle injuries, and so 413 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 9: you know chances of him being resigned when he's up 414 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 9: with those two guys, which gives you both the big 415 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 9: guy to sixty five to sixty guy like high Smith 416 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 9: and the fast guy off the edge like Herbig. I 417 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 9: don't think you will see the Steelers resign Alex Heismith 418 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 9: only because of what they have, how much they pay him, 419 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 9: in the combination that they have with those two, with 420 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 9: Sawyer and Herbig. 421 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: What wouldn't shock me if Pat Friar Moose in the 422 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: same boat and he only got what fifteen snaps at Dublin? 423 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Why is his role shrinking so noticeably? And for that matter, 424 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: John who only got sixteen snaps? 425 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 9: Mark, I don't understand the and I didn't last year, 426 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 9: and it's even more so now through four games. The 427 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 9: both the devaluation and the lack of usage of Pat Fryerman. 428 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 9: That's not why they paid him. Pat Arthur Smith is 429 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 9: a tight Ends coach before, he's a big tight Ends guy. 430 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 9: But why Pat Frarmuth is not playing a lot? And 431 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 9: you could sit there and say, oh, well, it's part 432 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 9: of the game plan, but Friar Mooth is one of 433 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 9: your trusted receivers and him not playing a lot, I 434 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 9: don't know the answer to that directly. I know what 435 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 9: answer that I will be told, But I am just 436 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 9: surprised at how not only how little he's being targeted, 437 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 9: but how little he's even playing. And it's just it's 438 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 9: it's yeah, it's kind of confounding to me. 439 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah to me too. 440 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: And the offense looks nothing like I thought it would 441 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: under Arthur Smith. I mean, using Spencer Anderson is the 442 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: extra offen some lineman Washington in there. It's like going 443 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: back almost to the thirties. I understand the importance of 444 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: running the ball, but I'm not so sure what we're 445 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: talking about. 446 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: Beats good teams in big games. 447 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 9: Well, I mean that remains to be seen. But one 448 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 9: thing is for sure. And you know they didn't bring 449 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers in to be a mailman. They brought him 450 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 9: into be a gunslinger Mark, and he's going to throw 451 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 9: the football so long as they give him the time, 452 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 9: and whether it's whether it's you know, to the running 453 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 9: backs at tight ends, the wide receivers. Obviously favors DK 454 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 9: Metcalf and understandably so and rightfully so. But they are 455 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 9: going to throw the football. But Arthur Smith is ready 456 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 9: to do that if necessary. Would he like to run 457 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 9: the ball, sure, but you know what, Bill Kawer loved 458 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 9: to run the ball too, but his philosophy was always 459 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 9: you throw early to run late. And Arthur Smith basically 460 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 9: adopts the same philosophy. You don't always see it because 461 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 9: they've had problems in the past getting getting the lead. 462 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 9: But that's the way he wants to play too. And 463 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 9: if that means coming out and we've seen Aaron Rodgers 464 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 9: do it, that means him coming out and throwing the football. 465 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 9: He's going to throw the football and you know. 466 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: Run it later, Jerry. 467 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the defense per second. 468 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: Is the defense what it should be right now? Maybe 469 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: on the way to that, uh, because the last two 470 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: games have been better and it seems like Watt and 471 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: Hayward have caught up a. 472 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 9: Bit yeah, Cam especially, I mean I know TJ. Yes, 473 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 9: I mean he had the two sacks the other game 474 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 9: and a lot of pressures and everything in Ireland. I thought, 475 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 9: what we saw Marcus. Now, I know what happened at 476 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 9: the end in the last two possessions, but I thought, 477 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 9: what we saw for three and a half quarters with 478 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 9: that defense is what everybody expected to see, shutting down 479 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 9: the run, pressuring the quarterback, stacking the quarterback, hitting the quarterback, 480 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 9: and forcing you know, bad plays, and the the defense 481 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 9: finally looked like what they expected and what I think 482 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 9: all the fans and everybody else expected with those with 483 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 9: that high price with that high price group. And yes, 484 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 9: they had some leakage there at the end. I'm not 485 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 9: going to make excuses for him, but when their cornerbacks 486 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 9: were all out, they had to play three safeties and 487 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 9: you can't play man coverage, they're playing zone, and you know, 488 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 9: some guys got mixed up and they hit him with 489 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 9: a big play obviously on the eighty one yard to 490 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 9: Jordan Addison. So but what I saw for three and 491 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 9: a half quarters, to me, was a very big positive 492 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 9: for the defense. 493 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Whose fault was it on that Addison catch and run? 494 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: It looked like Chuck Clark Terol Austin fell on his sword, 495 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: which is the right thing to do. 496 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: He needs to stick up for the guys. But what 497 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: did you see, Mark? 498 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 9: You know, I'll be honest with you, Well, I know 499 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 9: what I saw, a mass confusion, but I can't, I 500 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 9: honestly can't tell you what actually happened there because Mark, 501 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 9: after the game, I took off for for Paris, so 502 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 9: I didn't concern myself too much with the fallout from 503 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 9: the game other than the fact of what you know, 504 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 9: what I knew about the injuries and everything else, So 505 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 9: I didn't at that point, I'll be honest with you, Mark, 506 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 9: it didn't concern me to follow up on it. I 507 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 9: was more concerned about getting the Paris. 508 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: Jerry made the right decision. 509 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of decisions, what did you make of the two 510 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: bade my mic common in the fourth quarter as chewing 511 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: the field goal on fourth and goal from the three 512 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: and then punting on fourth and one. 513 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 9: Mark, I was a little surprised with the punt, and 514 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 9: I wasn't totally surprised with the field goal At the time. 515 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 9: I was thinking he made a mistake, but I had 516 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 9: to score. In my mind, confused. I thought the field 517 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 9: goal would make it a three point game, so I 518 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 9: know why he went for it. But the punt, I mean, 519 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 9: it didn't really surprise me because again, he's playing with 520 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 9: the lead, and I know where he was at that point, 521 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 9: but he's playing with the lead. His defense had been 522 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 9: pretty good, and he just thought, you know what we're 523 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 9: gonna We're not going to take that chance of being stopped. 524 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 9: And so it didn't surprise me when he gets to 525 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 9: that point, you know, I understand, I understand what he's doing. 526 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 9: So that didn't that didn't neither instance really surprise me. 527 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 9: But I really thought he might take the field goal 528 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 9: more so than go for You know what. 529 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: Was weird was when they punted on the fourth and one. 530 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: They just drove it through the end zone, which seemed 531 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: to me obviously intentional. Why wouldn't you try to, you know, 532 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: stick in the corner or something like that. 533 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 9: Well, Mark, and those were the instances, and I said 534 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 9: this that I said this when it happened, I go, 535 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 9: that's when you want the Ben Roethlisberger pooch punt. Put 536 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 9: him in the game, get them you know, in the shotgun, 537 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 9: have him drop back a little bit more. You know, 538 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 9: we've seen it years ago, and he gives that little 539 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 9: pooch down around the five yard line. That's what I 540 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 9: would have expected the punter to do, but apparently they 541 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 9: were content doing what they did and that that surprised 542 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 9: me more than anything. 543 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Jerry, if I had my way, would bring Ben back. 544 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: You know, I know you feel the same way. Now, 545 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: how bad is Cleveland and now with the quarterback situation 546 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know if it's a distraction, Maybe 547 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: it's a fix the sudor things out of control like 548 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: we knew it would be. But they're one in three. 549 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: They're not making this QB change the punt on the season. 550 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: I think they probably see this division as wide open. 551 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 9: Well I think too. Mark is the pressure, and I'm 552 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 9: sure it's coming from the top, and of course we 553 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 9: know the decisions they make from the top are not 554 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 9: the smartest. But when you draft two quarterbacks and you're struggling, 555 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 9: you're not gonna let those quarterbacks sit very long, and 556 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 9: you're going to use one of them because you feel 557 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 9: the pressure to use them. So Dylan Gabriel was the 558 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 9: higher draft pick. They did like what they saw from him. 559 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 9: They're going to use them, and so they're not just 560 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 9: gonna stand still, you know. I mean it's the same 561 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 9: reason Kenny Pickett went in when he did. I mean 562 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 9: they drafted him, you know, at halftime of the fourth game, 563 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 9: you know, because of some blow up in the locker room, 564 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 9: they throw Kenny Pickett in because they wanted to get 565 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 9: him into the lineup as soon as possible. And I 566 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 9: think so when Joe Flacco was struggling, the offense wasn't 567 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 9: scoring points. It just doesn't surprise me when you draft 568 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 9: a rookie, the fans, everybody, and then the owner two. 569 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 9: And what's next is if Bill, if Dylan Gabriel struggles, 570 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 9: they're gonna go right to Shador Sanders, Jared. 571 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: What do you make a Rogers? So far? I saved 572 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: that for last. 573 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: His numbers aren't impressive, but I think the control he wields, 574 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: the way the offense looks very buttoned up and doesn't 575 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: make mistakes in his crisp I think that's worth maybe 576 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: as much as numbers. 577 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 10: I Mark, I agree with you. 578 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 9: You know, once he have eight touchdowns, you know they're 579 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 9: three and one. The offense has been they've scored early 580 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 9: in games, they've scored back to back. They were late 581 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 9: in games to win games. You know, even you know 582 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 9: the week before in New England where he struggled in 583 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 9: the middle, but they had two impressive drives to start 584 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 9: and when they needed to score at the end, they did. 585 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 9: And you know, he brings a sense of calmness to 586 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 9: those guys, and you can see him redirecting plays and 587 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 9: in terms of redirecting routs and whatnot, and so you know, 588 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 9: you haven't had that since you had been and when 589 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: you have that, that's that's the big equalizer mark too 590 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 9: defensive schemes. And I've had no problem with the way 591 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 9: he's played. Hey, look he's forty one. He's not gonna 592 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 9: move like he did. But he's actually been moving around 593 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 9: a little bit better each game. But I think each 594 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 9: game he goes, as long as he stays healthy, he'll 595 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 9: get more and more comfortable with that, and he'll get 596 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 9: more and more comfortable with his linemen. And I and 597 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 9: I they are, and Broderick Jones among them, they're doing 598 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 9: a much better job of protection. 599 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: Jerry, who would have thought Lamar would be sidelined, would 600 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: be sidelined. Joe Flacco has been benched to Aaron Rodgers, 601 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: we're only four weeks in. 602 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: He's the last man standing in the AFC North. 603 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 10: That's right. 604 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: He's the cream of the AFC North quarterback crop. 605 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 10: And we who would have thought that is right? 606 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: Jerry, great stuff. Appreciate the time, all right, Mark, good 607 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: chat with you, my friend. 608 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Delight. Brought toast by bud Light. Easy to drink in, 609 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: easy to enjoy. 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That's people's 625 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: hypinggas dot com. 626 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: You know what, I know? 627 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: It was weird last night in the baseball playoffs, by 628 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: the way, LA eliminated Cincinnati, just dog pot them two 629 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: games in a row. 630 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: What was it? 631 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: Eight four and ten five? And afterwards they celebrated with 632 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: champagne like they had the full thing in the club house. 633 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: The lockers covered the goggles and whatnot. You just won 634 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: the World Series last year. Why would you break all 635 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: that crap out for a wild card round win. I 636 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: think a team that good that just won the World 637 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Series should be more business like. 638 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Then again, maybe Otani had a big bet down on. 639 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: A weep and he treated the guys. Is there any 640 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: dot in anybody's mind? 641 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 7: Ough? 642 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: Tawny made those bets and they just weren't going to 643 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: throw him out of baseball? Is there any dot in 644 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: anybody's mind? Let's go to Nate Nate as Mark anything? 645 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 7: What up? 646 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 10: Mark? What up? 647 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: Would you go on a ayahuasca journey with Aaron Rodgers 648 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: if he was inviting you. 649 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Bob, I would heed my doctor's advice. If he thought 650 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: I I would be okay, No, I'm serious. If he 651 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: thought he would be I would be okay. At the 652 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: completion of the Ayahuasca Journey, I would definitely do it. 653 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 10: Love it awesome. 654 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to Miles. I can see for Miles. You're 655 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: on with double. 656 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 7: M Hey, what up mine? 657 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 10: Mine? 658 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: First off, I couldn't agree more on the Dodgers celebrating. 659 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 7: It's kind of lame. And I also hate when players 660 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 7: do those stupid dances on second base. Anyway, about the 661 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 7: movie Goodfellas, I remember you've you've spoken about that movie 662 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 7: a lot, and you said one of your favorite scenes 663 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 7: is when Jimmy smashes the phone booth after finding out 664 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 7: Tommy was killed. 665 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the one time that Jimmy showed humanity. 666 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 10: Right. 667 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 7: Did he do that? Do you think because he actually 668 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 7: loved Tommy? Or was Tommy like their golden ticket? 669 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a good question. That's a real 670 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: good question, because if. 671 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Tommy's made, he could intervene on their behalf whenever needed. 672 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: Remember that everything went the scene in. 673 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: The scene where they thought Tommy was gonna get made. 674 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: In the voiceover, Henry Hill goes, uh, it was like 675 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: we were all being made. 676 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, for sure. And then after he dies I 677 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 7: mean it goes back quickly for those guys. So I 678 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 7: always wondered that did he love Tommy? Do you think 679 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 7: because he doesn't now. 680 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. Although the way he got really emotion like. 681 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: I would think if his first priority was that, you know, 682 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Tommy was going to get made and help them, if 683 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: that was his first thought, that that was gone, I 684 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: think he would have got mad, not sad. 685 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 7: That's a good point. 686 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 10: Thanks Tom Lam, thank you. 687 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: Let's go to Cosmo. Cosmo, ask Mark anything. 688 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, one of us see if you by the way, 689 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 4: that was awesome good fellows talk love that movie. Wanted 690 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: us see if you had saw that. City council is 691 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: calling for formal discussions with Bob. 692 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Nutting about what. 693 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 4: Uh. They just want to have us sit down with 694 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: him about formal discussions first time about what his finances finances. 695 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have to disclose his books. He uh 696 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: is a private business. 697 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: But if there's criminal malpractice, No, what. 698 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: Is criminal about about the way he runs the team? 699 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Tell me give me one identifiable example, one provable example. 700 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 4: So their their whole argument is that this the this 701 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: is a tax funded part, okay, and he is obligated 702 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 4: to put so much towards the product, and they can 703 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 4: see if you know. 704 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: The guarantee that's not in the lease or any of 705 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: their business agreements. 706 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 4: Well then why else would a city councilman or councilwoman, 707 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 4: a person of government be calling for formal discussions. 708 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: Because she's naiven, stupid and doesn't understand that they have 709 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: no power in this regard. I got the story up here. Yeah, 710 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: it just won't work. She's and she knows that, bru. 711 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: She's grandstanding, she's trying to make a name for self. 712 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: They cannot force nothing to compete, and if they try successfully, 713 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: he'll just move the team. 714 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: So you think it's futile. 715 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: What part of anything that's happened with the Pirates for 716 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: the last how many years has brought to mind any 717 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: word but futile. 718 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback. 719 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 12: Hey, Mark, in the Sydney Crosby era, who would you 720 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 12: say is the most underrated penguin and who's the most 721 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 12: overrated penguin in terms of performance and contribution to the team. 722 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: See, I wish you would call to ask that that's 723 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: a good discussion. Most underrated penguin probably Brian Rust, Probably 724 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: nobody else jumps immediately to mind, I was gonna say 725 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Nick Benino, who had that great stretch when the Penguins 726 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: won their first Cup, who just went off the last 727 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, a dozen games in the regular season 728 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: and all through the playoffs. Never played like that again 729 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: or before in his career. 730 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: But I would. 731 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Probably say Brian Rust Justin Schultz is there too, And 732 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: that's who I say overrated. 733 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 734 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: When you've had the success they did, it's hard to 735 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: call anybody overrated. I mean, Derek Bissard came in here disappointed, 736 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: but that's different. 737 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: Carl Hagelan was just fast. 738 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: And I think to some degree fans overrated him. But 739 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: he was part of a changeover with those five trades 740 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: Rutherford made that made the Penguins the fastest in hockey 741 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: within Like I said, five trades in a few months. 742 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know who the overrated is. 743 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: I think the underrated is Rust. 744 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 13: Let's go to a talkback, Mark, do you believe pirates 745 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 13: ownership when they say they're in it to win it 746 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 13: next year? And if not, does this mean it's Paul 747 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 13: Skins last year as a Pirate. 748 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: They're not in it to win it. 749 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: If not, could anybody believe one word that comes out 750 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: of Travis Williams's mouth, or Bob Nutting's mouth, or Ben 751 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: sharing his mouth? Kelly, I like, he's just a dupe. 752 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: And in terms of Paul Skins, they'll leave. He'll leave 753 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: when they decide. If they want, they can keep him 754 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: prisoner here for four more years, so they will. 755 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: He will leave when they decide. 756 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: He might ask God, but they don't have to let 757 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: him leave for four more years. All right, ask Mark 758 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: anything brought to us, like I said, by people's natural gas. 759 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: Get your calls in. Now they'll talking about other stuff. 760 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 1: Eight three, three, four two nine. 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