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Speaker 1: Today on Judge Joe Show, plaintiff Rachel says she and

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Speaker 1: her fiance Damien put down a five thousand dollars non

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Speaker 1: refundable deposit on a wedding venue until she discovered he'd

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Speaker 1: been married there multiple times before. She still wants to

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Speaker 1: marry him, but it must be at another venue. Damien,

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Speaker 1: who says the deposit was clearly non refundable, wants to

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Speaker 1: get married at the place they already put a non

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Speaker 1: refundable deposit down on All Rise for Judge Joe Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three three FLZ.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Rachel, you still want to get married, obviously, right?

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Speaker 3: I still want to get married. I mean, Damien is

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Speaker 3: the love of my life, but this is not this

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Speaker 3: is not how I want to do this.

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Speaker 2: Damien, you still want to get married, right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? You know I love Rachel. I just I don't

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Speaker 5: think this is you know, fair to kind of demand

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Speaker 5: to change a venue and we have a per six

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Speaker 5: spot picked out. I don't think my past at this

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Speaker 5: place should have any any you know, relevance. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a gorgeous place and she should be happy that there.

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Speaker 5: So I did get married twice at this venue, but

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Speaker 5: I mean it's the beach. It's not like, you know,

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Speaker 5: some tacky little little ballroom or anything like that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's it's got a gorgeous beach backdropping it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's everything you would want. I mean, and it's it's

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Speaker 5: it's a great deal as well. But twice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Rachel, and don't take this the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: I'm just genuinely curious. How did you not know that

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Speaker 2: he's been married twice there? Like, how did you not know?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever look into the locations or anything like that?

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Speaker 3: It just wasn't it wasn't even a thot. It just

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Speaker 3: it came out of his mouth when we were tasting

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Speaker 3: the cake, and he just blurted out that he was

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Speaker 3: married there two times before. I mean, that's that's so disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what to say. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is just it's really disrespectful. And then you want

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Speaker 3: to start off a new marriage on this same place

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Speaker 3: that you I don't know, this is.

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Speaker 2: All right, to be clear. And then eight hundred four

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Speaker 2: and nine ninety three ninety three, that is eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and four h nine ninety three ninety three. I want

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Speaker 2: to hear from you the jury, and you know, at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, while it's Judge Joe Show,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to go based off of what you say,

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Speaker 2: So your opinion really does matter in this. Rachel, once again,

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Speaker 2: you still want to get married, Damien, you still want

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Speaker 2: to get married. We're not debating whether you guys break

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Speaker 2: up and don't have like a loving, fantastic life together.

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Speaker 2: It's purely just the location. Rachel, You're willing to lose

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Speaker 2: out on five thousand dollars just because you don't want

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Speaker 2: to be married in this place that these other two

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Speaker 2: women tied the knot with your now fiance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the it's the principal, it's the principle of that.

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Speaker 2: Five thousand bucks. You don't want to lose out on

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Speaker 2: five grand.

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Speaker 6: Heck, bro of course not.

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Speaker 5: I mean, who would. It's it's, yeah, I want to

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Speaker 5: get married. You're fine.

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Speaker 3: So you're fine with using me, So you're fine with

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Speaker 3: losing me, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: To keep you and I want to keep the five

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars deposit and not lose that. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: You don't see how you don't see how this is

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Speaker 3: disrespect disrespecting me. Like you just married two other women

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Speaker 3: before that it didn't work out. That's that juju? Like,

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Speaker 3: why are you doing in the same exact place? What

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Speaker 3: is like, I don't understand that, Damien.

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Speaker 2: Right, real quick, real quick, and we'll continue with this. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you guys can stay on this whole entire time. But

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Speaker 2: let's get to some jurors and see maybe if we

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Speaker 2: can start picking sides. Michael, what do you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Joe, like, I'm on I'm on her side. I

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Speaker 7: definitely think it's bad juju, you know, but if it's

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Speaker 7: a situation where there's a deal going on, like buy

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Speaker 7: two weddings, get one wedding freeze, and at that point

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Speaker 7: you gotta go away from the bad jude too and

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Speaker 7: be a good dude too.

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Speaker 2: Could be it could be is it a boat go?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Do they have by two get one free?

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Speaker 2: Is that the terminology for me? I don't know. So

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Speaker 2: it's not that I mean, obviously it's not that you

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Speaker 2: had to put five grand down, So Michael, you'd be

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Here's Michael stalk to Megan

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Speaker 2: right now, Megan says, this is insane. Well, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Joe Show, right, hello, talk to us.

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Speaker 8: So, yeah, I definitely side with the girl raising Yeah

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Speaker 8: five grand.

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Speaker 6: I would lose that in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 9: My fiance would be an insane amount of trouble if

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Speaker 9: he even suggested this place.

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Speaker 6: Do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Like, that's just so wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be stabbed. Think that's what happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Is oh yeah, stabbing as soon as you even set

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Speaker 2: it off your lipsy ash. Yeah, Alyssa would go, really,

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Speaker 2: we're still getting married?

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Speaker 10: This out? It?

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Speaker 3: Can you answer that?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 6: Why even was this place on the list, like it

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Speaker 6: should not even have been on the radar?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Damien, because it's gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, we've all been attacking weddings before. When

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Speaker 5: you know something works, you stick with it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, we're years ago and we're talking about the beach. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a beautiful spot.

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Speaker 5: Everything was all inclusive, and I just can't believe we're

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Speaker 5: talking about vibes and Judi.

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Speaker 4: It didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: Though it did not work out?

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Speaker 5: What are we a bunch of teenagers?

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Speaker 4: Like, come on, are we are we looking at astrologically, No,

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Speaker 4: are you a are.

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Speaker 3: You a teenager that you can't lose out on something

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Speaker 3: for the love of your life.

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Speaker 5: This isn't twenty dollars we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: This is five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: That's the second and more important to you.

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Speaker 8: So that's more important.

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Speaker 2: List as you can tell right now. As you can

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Speaker 2: tell right now, we have two very loving, you know,

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Speaker 2: fiancees on the phone right now, and at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day they are going to get married. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. The question is is what happens

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Speaker 2: they put a five thousand dollars deposit on this location.

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Speaker 2: Rachel finds out that Damien's been married there twice already. Jana, Hi,

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 6: Oh well, I just want to know, like what made

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Speaker 6: Damien pick this location again? Like why would you pick.

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Speaker 2: The I'll fill it in because I've heard it a

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Speaker 2: couple of times. He says it's beautiful. He says it's

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So for I mean, I guess he could be

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Speaker 6: going with third time the charm, But I understand, I

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Speaker 6: understand that I agree with her that it's really disrespectful,

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Speaker 6: Like you, you got to give her her own space

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Speaker 6: disclosing to her in the first place that he had

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Speaker 6: already been married there twice before and it was the

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Speaker 6: same exact location. And I understand not wanting to lose

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Speaker 6: out on five thousand dollars, but you know what, if

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Speaker 6: you really love that person, for the happiness of that person,

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Speaker 6: knowing that this makes them upset, you got to give

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jana, I appreciate you. Andy. You say you're

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Speaker 2: on both sides. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna you can give your opinion in all of that,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you at the end because the

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Speaker 2: way Judge Joe show works, we can't have you know, middleman,

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Speaker 2: Andy's you need it. You need to pick a side.

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Speaker 2: So talk about how your family owns a wedding venue.

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Speaker 2: But immediately after that you gotta pick a side.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, both sides have feelings, and I get it.

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Speaker 10: So I was just kind of gonna that's neutral.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to and I'm gonna from the court

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Speaker 2: Remandy get him out of here. Judge, Now, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let I'm gonna let your r Andy before

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Speaker 2: we hold him in contempt of court. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 2: him one more chance. But if you don't, Ashley's got

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Speaker 2: fuzzy handcuffs and you'll take you to the bat.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, let's just go with I'm on his side.

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Speaker 2: Why on his side? Tell us why?

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Speaker 10: I understand the bad juju and all that stuff. I

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Speaker 10: get it, and I understand her her angle, But I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't want to lose five thousand dollars. I mean, he

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Speaker 10: loves her, clearly, he's not thinking of the other ladies.

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Speaker 10: He was open and honest with her. So and I

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Speaker 10: understand five thousand dollars. There is a lot of money.

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Speaker 10: So if he has the option of saving that five

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars, he can come to a different wedding venue

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Speaker 10: that's beautiful, and you will be happy and then they

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Speaker 10: will live.

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Speaker 2: Happily ever after. Look at that. Okay, I'll put you

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Speaker 2: in hold. We can get your information and maybe they

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Speaker 2: choose to do that. Thank you Andy so much for

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Speaker 2: doing that. Although now that Rachel knows that Andy was

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Speaker 2: on Damien's side, who knows if Rachel even wants to

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Speaker 2: pick that place. Now, this is what's crazy. You know,

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Speaker 2: at first everyone's on Rachel's side. Well things are changing

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Speaker 2: now Nikki, you're on Damien's side as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta.

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Speaker 11: Say I I've been married almost ten years and some

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Speaker 11: things just don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we got married at the courthouse. Now was

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Speaker 8: in my pajamas holding our one year old as white

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Speaker 8: trash as that sounds, and I don't really think it

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Speaker 8: matters where you get married.

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Speaker 12: She obviously saw it, thought it was beautiful. She stuck

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Speaker 12: his foot in his mouth, somebody said. But at least

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Speaker 12: she didn't find out from someone else. And all she

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Speaker 12: can do is be like, don't tell.

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Speaker 8: Anybody because this is so embarrassing. But we paid our deposit,

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Speaker 8: so let's just go through it with it, you know,

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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, Like, who cares about

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Speaker 8: the other women? They're obviously not in the picture anymore.

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Speaker 8: I just don't think it's that big of a deal.

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Speaker 8: Like in the grand scheme of things, if you're truly

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Speaker 8: in love with someone, it shouldn't really matter, like where

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Speaker 8: you get married. I mean, it is kind of weird

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Speaker 8: that he's been married there before, but it doesn't really matter, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Nikki. Last one Monica, Monica, you say call off

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Speaker 2: the wedding.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I actually worked with a lot of different brides.

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Speaker 6: I own a bridal store, and.

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Speaker 9: As somebody who's actually been engaged twice and married once,

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Speaker 9: I would say, listen, the whole thing is supposed to

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Speaker 9: be symbolic, and if it were me, I'd either lose

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Speaker 9: a five thousand or I would just cancel the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Monica. At the end of the day, I

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Speaker 2: do need to come up with a decision. I have

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Speaker 2: come up with a decision. Monica is great and all

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Speaker 2: of that I don't want. I love love. I'm getting

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Speaker 2: I think we're both stressed. So I hope that you

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Speaker 2: you're hearing from all of us. I do genuinely believe

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Speaker 2: go somewhere else. That is my opinion. Would you agree Ash,

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Speaker 2: It seems like you agree before us. That's rare times

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Speaker 2: Rachel and Damien keep us updated as always, and you

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Speaker 2: know we might have some things financially that could help

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Speaker 2: you guys out movie and forward