1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, listen now to President Trump again on Air Force One, saying, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: as far as the President is concerned militarily, he believes 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: this war it's all but over, not quite, not quite. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: We've got the straight of Hormus. But outside of that, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: he thinks Aron militarily is not just on the ropes, 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: it's now flat on its back. Roll cut one a mike. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Militarily, with as far as I'm concerned, we've essentially defeated 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: the RAND and I guess they can have a little 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: bit of fight back, but that much, not much. Taken 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: out their air forces, you know, we're taken out then 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: taking out their air defense and still air defense whatsoever. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: We're taking out their leadership at tax two or three 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: might be three. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Find that said so, and he's right, by the way, 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, just again, objectively, however you feel about the war, 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: there's no question. Look, militarily, they're broken, they're smashed. Their 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: air force is gone, their navy is all but gone. 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: All they've got left are these little ships and these 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: little boats that are just dropping mines in the Strait 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: of Hormuse. Their ballistic arsenal is gone, with the exception 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: of some of these short range missiles, as I said, 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: on the coastline, and a few that are still they're 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: lobbing into Israel or some of these Persian golf neighbors. 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Now what they still have, and it is doing some damage. 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: There's no question. Are the drones. They still have drones, 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: and those drones are getting into Israel. They're getting into 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, as I mentioned Bahrain, there was a vicious 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: attack on Bahrain, on Dubai, on some of these golf neighbors, 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and they're targeting, by the way, not just civilians, slaughtering them, 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: but also they're oil refineries. So you know, for example, 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: the United Arab Emirates has for now just shut down 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: all of its oil production because their refineries are growing 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: up in smoke. Their ships can't get past the Strait 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: of Hormuz, and so they go, look, there's no point, 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: We're just gonna shut everything down. So that's why gas 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: prices are exploding across the globe. That's why the oil 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: markets are in a shock, a huge price increase. So 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: that's the game the Iranians are playing. So as Trump said, 39 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: they still have some fight and they can still do 40 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: some damage. But this is the let's put it this way, 41 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime is badly wounded. It is a wounded animal, 42 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: a very wounded animal. And Trump believes another three four 43 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: days and at least from a military point of view, 44 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: they're dead. But what do you do with an enemy that, 45 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: even though militarily has been smashed, refuses to surrender. Look 46 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: at Japan in World War II, that's the classic case. 47 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, militarily, we had overwhelmed them and they were 48 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: losing battle after battle. All of their military production had 49 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: been bombed and destroyed. They were losing soldiers after soldiers 50 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: after soldiers, and yet they just kept refusing to surrender. 51 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: And that's when Truman said, we're going to drop the 52 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. And they dropped one and they still refused 53 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to surrender. And then they dropped a second one and 54 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: they still refuse to surrender. I'm talking about the military leadership. 55 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: It was only after the emperor himself intervened and said, look, 56 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: what are you guys insane? You want to nuke the 57 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: whole damn island like you want the whole island to 58 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: be nuked, And that's what he said, No, I am 59 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: ordering a surrender, And then you saw this mass phenomenon. 60 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Even after that mass. You know that surrender of all 61 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: of these Japanese soldiers literally committing suicide. Here we kiri. 62 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: They would sit down with a sword, traditional samurai style 63 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: and disembowel themselves. So my point being, you look at 64 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Japan now, we're not willing to drop a bomb. So 65 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is there is a certain point where 66 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: you've militarily defeated an enemy. They have nothing left and 67 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: you're just bombing and bombing and bombing and bombing and bombing, 68 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: and they don't care how many civilians die because they 69 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: just don't care. They're rabid fanatics. And the question is, then, 70 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: what do you do? What can you do? Because to me, 71 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the most disappointing part of the war so far has 72 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: been the inability of the Iranian resistance movement to organize 73 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and either up you know, unleash an uprising on the streets, 74 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: or at least put together some kind of a success 75 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: or government or a shadow government ready to replace the Iyatolas. 76 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: So far, there is no successor regime, there is no 77 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: alternative waiting to replace the Mullus. And that's the buying 78 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: politically that Trump is in, not militarily but politically. What 79 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: comes after the bombing, and that's the key question. Six one, seven, two, 80 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: sixty six, sixty eight, sixty eight is the number? How 81 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: much time left? 82 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: Mike? 83 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna go to Canon Georgia, but it's okay, 84 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: so let me quick quick reset. The president now has 85 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: they have destroyed all of the military installations on carg Island. 86 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Ken in Georgia. Thanks for holding Ken and welcome. I'm good. 87 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: How are you Ken? 88 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: Good? 89 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in still support for this action. I see 90 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: the long picture of this that once we kind of 91 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: taken Iran out hopefully. 92 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Ken, Ken, we lost you. Ken. Let's see if we 93 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: can try to re establish connection with Ken. He says 94 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: he still supports the war. I think he I think. 95 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in his mouth, but 96 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I think what I heard, we got him back. Can 97 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: are you there? 98 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: Hello? 99 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we got you back. So you still support 100 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: the war and then we kind of lost you? So 101 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: go ahead, Ken? 102 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, uh, the next step of this 103 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: phase is the marines that are coming are going to 104 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: take over that island that support you know, that produced 105 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: ninety percent of the oil. Yea cargo opened up the 106 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: straight Yes, they'll open up the straits there. Well, it'll 107 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: secure the island, and since the military isn't as strong, 108 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: I think that'll be kind of a I don't want. 109 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: It's easy, but. 110 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: Easier than if we did it about a week or 111 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: so ago. So I think we'll control that. 112 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Island, open up the straits, and then I. 113 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: Think that's that'll be the the the end of it, 114 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: because China is gonna want to have the regime just 115 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: surrender because they're going to need the oil that's coming 116 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: out of there. So they'll just call I ran out 117 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: and say this, this, stop, just this and this, now 118 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 5: do reach. They'll do something I think that will force 119 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: China to make them allas this and the war. 120 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, you also have more warships. The United States is 121 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: sending more marines. You're mentioning marine, so more marines, and 122 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: they're sending many more warships into the area. So what 123 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Trump is signaling to the Mullas is We're going to 124 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: do everything in our power to secure the Strait of 125 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Hormoose and to make sure that the world's oil supply 126 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: goes nice and smooth and free, unblocked, unfettered, right through 127 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: that Persian Gulf. So we're sending in a lot more warships. 128 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Now the other thing is he's asking NATO to get involved. Now, 129 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: why is NATO getting involved or what does he want NATO? 130 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Because they have many more mine sweepers than we do. 131 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: The one thing the Europeans have more than we have 132 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: are these you know, these ships that specialize in sweeping 133 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: mines at the bottom of a sea or the bottom 134 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: of the ocean or whatever. So if you can get 135 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: those mine sweepers in there, that will d mine the 136 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: strait of Hormoose. So that will also make it much 137 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: easier for all of these cargo ships and oil tankers 138 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: to go through, especially if you have all these other vessels, 139 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: not just US, but the Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans, 140 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the French, the British escorting them. Then essentially Iran has 141 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: nothing left, I mean literally nothing left. And then Trump 142 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: will declare, I think you say going to say it's 143 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: an international zone. I think Trump is going to say, 144 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not claiming I have any 145 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: extra special knowledge. I'm just saying it makes sense to 146 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: me that the world would say we're never gonna let 147 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the Tehran or the Iranians ever be able to blockmail 148 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: us or hold the world's economy hostage through that choke 149 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: point in the Strait of Hormouse. So we're going to 150 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: declare that an international zone, and so other countries, the 151 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Saudis and others, they can send in their ships and 152 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: protect it. Well. Other countries will have warships so they'll 153 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: be constant and escorts, so the Iranians can never threaten 154 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: the world's oil and gas supply again. And I think 155 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: that's the final checkmate. I don't see what other you know. 156 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know unless they're planning some nine 157 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: to eleven style terrorist attack that we're not aware of. 158 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: But outside of that, they don't have much left to 159 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: play with. So the question then is the regime though 160 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: still stands. That's the question Trump is gonna have to 161 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: deal with. What do you do then, because now you know, 162 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: whatever you thought of Iran before, now they're definitely gonna 163 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: go and try to build a bomb. Now it's going 164 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: to take them a long time. They have to start 165 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: from scratch much of their countries and you know, under rubble, 166 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: so this is not going to be overnight. But now 167 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: more than ever, they're gonna want to build a bomb, 168 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and they're already saying it. They're saying, well, now you've 169 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: guaranteed the fact that unless you take us out, we 170 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: are gonna go and pursue a nuclear weapon. Because, according 171 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: to them, they're saying, look, you bombed us, You bombed us, 172 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: basically back to the Stone Age. Now we don't see 173 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you bombing North Korea. Why because North Korea has nukes. 174 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Any country that has nukes, you guys don't bomb. But 175 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: if they don't have nukes like us, or like Kadafi 176 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: in Libya, or like Saddam in Iraq, or you know, 177 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: like the Taliban in Afghanistan or like basharh Asad in Syria, 178 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: you bomb. So their argument is, and they've already made it. 179 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: If you thought we wanted a nuclear program before, you 180 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing yet. And my fear is, and this 181 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: is why I don't like the long term consequences of this. 182 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: I get. I hate the Mollahs. I understand militarily, we're 183 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: gonna win, and God bless it, God bless our country, 184 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: and God bless us our troops, and I hope we 185 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: don't lose a single soldier anymore. Okay, to me, thirteen 186 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: is already thirteen too many. I don't want to see 187 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: any soldiers die. But now the fear is have we 188 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: unlocked the nuclear proliferation genie, because now other countries are 189 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: going to say, we better get nukes, because if we 190 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: don't get nukes, we could get bombed. And so you 191 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: may have, inadvertently, not deliberately, but you know, inadvertently, you 192 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: may have sparked a nuclear arms race around the world. 193 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Now let me just tell everyone there's a big development 194 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's not being reported in the Western media. 195 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why it should be. But it's not Pakistan, 196 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: which is a Muslim country. You know, the notion that 197 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: Islam doesn't have the bomb, that's a lie. Pakistan got 198 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: the bomb under Bill Clinton. It was one of the 199 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: many colossal mistakes that he made under his administration. But Pakistan, 200 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: or is Obama like to call them, Pakistan, Pakistan has 201 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. They have now come out and said that 202 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: if the bombing continues, because they have a lot of 203 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: Shia Muslims in Pakistan, that Pakistan will give the Mullahs 204 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: the bomb. They're now telling Trump you continue, and we're 205 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: telling you we're going to hand a nuclear weapon. We're 206 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: going to transport it. We're going to send it to Tehran, 207 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: and what they do with it, that's your problem. Furthermore, 208 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Pakistan is now telling Turkey that they are willing to 209 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: give the Turks a nuclear bomb. So this thing regionally 210 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: could get out of control very very very fast. Now 211 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: that's not fear mongering. I'm just telling you that's the 212 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: geopolitics of war. Every president thinks they can control a war. 213 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: No president can control a war. And that's why I'm 214 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: hoping for a quick, decisive victory and let's get out, 215 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: because the longer this goes on, I fear the worse 216 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: it's going to get for Iran, for the Iranian people, 217 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: for the region, for the United States, and for the world. Agree, disagree. 218 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. It's the Kooner Country Pole Question 219 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: of the Day sponsored by Marios Marios Quality Roofing, Siding 220 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: and Windows. Was the attack on Iran worth it. 221 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: A? 222 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 223 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: B no. 224 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: You can vote on our web page wrko dot com 225 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: slash Cooner wrko dot com slash cooner, or you can 226 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: vote via x my handle there at the Kooner Report. Okay, 227 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask all of you. It is the 228 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Kooner Country Poll. Question of the day, as I said 229 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: just before the break sponsored by Marios, was the attack 230 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: on Iran worth it A yes, B no. You can 231 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: vote on our web page wrko dot com slash cooner 232 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: kuh and is in national Er. You can also vote 233 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: via x and again I was very active on X 234 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: my handle. There all one word at the Kooner report 235 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Ku n E R. And now that we are at 236 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: the military endgame, what should Trump do? Should he go 237 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: for regime change and finish the job or should he 238 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: clear the Strait of Hormuz and then declare victory even 239 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: if it means leaving remnants of the theocracy in place. 240 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight 241 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: to regime change or not to regime change? That is 242 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: the question. Bill in Sudbury, Thanks for holding Bill and welcome. 243 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: Well, good morning, Good morning, Jeff. I'm so happy that 244 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: like two weeks later you've come over to you're basically 245 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: saying the same thing I told you two weeks ago, 246 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: and you called me a trader. 247 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: You said I was with the Molas. 248 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 6: They're not fighting a military battle with us, fighting an 249 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 6: economic battle with us. Go on YouTube and look at 250 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 6: the thing called the Third week that when oil hits 251 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 6: two hundred dollars a barrel, what happens to the world economy. 252 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 6: Iran is at war with the world economy. Okay, they're 253 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 6: not at war with our missiles and rockets and ships. 254 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 6: They know they can't win that war. That's their strategy. 255 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 6: There's literally hundreds of books written about this, and you 256 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 6: get the impression that mister Trump and mister Hegseth haven't 257 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: read any of them. Google Mosaic Defense Strategy. 258 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: Well, Bill, look, you were the one that were was 259 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: cheering on the Mullas like the Democrats. You know, that's 260 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: what you guys have been doing since the war began. 261 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: You are hoping and praying for an Iranian victory, and 262 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: I think it's disgraceful, and I think it's shameful. And look, 263 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I the way I see it, you 264 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: openly cheered and celebrated at Biden's debacle in Afghanistan. You 265 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: called up this show and you said our exit from Afghanistan. 266 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: Your words was quote military brilliance. That's you. So you know, Bill, 267 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: when you're wrong over and over and over again, and 268 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: you say some of the stupidest things I've ever heard 269 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: anybody say on talk radio, I wouldn't be going on 270 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: about you know, heg Seth and Trump should read a book. 271 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: You were the one that famously said we shouldn't extract 272 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: a single ounce of oil from the ground because it 273 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: may run out in four or five hundred years. People 274 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: thought that, really, I mean, people thought, is this guy, Jeff, 275 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: is this a gag? I go, No, he believes this. So, 276 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, Bill, I mean, you call me a Nazi, 277 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: You call every person that listens to this show nazis 278 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: white supremacist. You've called for me to be murdered, You've 279 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: called for other people, everyone else who listens to the show, 280 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: to be murdered. And then you call up and say 281 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: I was right, you were wrong, And what were you 282 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: right about? The Iranians now are on the verge of 283 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: suffering a military defeat the likes of which Persia Iranian 284 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Persia has not suffered in over two thousand, five hundred years. 285 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: They the whole world is now arrayed against them, including 286 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the entire Muslim world, including their neighbors. They have broken 287 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: their nation. They have no more navy, they have no 288 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: more air force. Their ballistic arsenal, which they spent a 289 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: generation of that country's wealth to build up is now gone. 290 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: They've squandered everything, everything, and now they're literally on the 291 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: brink of losing their entire entire oil infrastructure, their pipelines, 292 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: they're processing abilities that would set this country back ten, fifteen, 293 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: twenty years with no oil. It would economically cripple and 294 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: amiserate the people of Iran. And you're telling me that 295 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: these people are waging some kind of a brilliant rational strategy. 296 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: We know their only desperate play is to drive up 297 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: the price of oil. What look, read Yesterday's Wall Street Journal, 298 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: read Yesterday's New York Times. I mean, everybody's known about this, 299 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and by the way, they all reported, just so that 300 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: you know that Trump was briefed on this before the 301 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: war started. General Dan Kaine said they're going to block 302 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: the straight up hormuset. Their goal is going to be 303 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: to raise oil oil prices to one hundred and forty 304 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred bucks barrel. So Trump 305 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: knew the risk before he went in. This has been 306 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: widely reported. So for you to claim, oh. 307 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: Trump should read a book, oh he should read a book, 308 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 7: because I saw a video online. 309 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean Bill honestly, you're making a fool of yourself. 310 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: So let me ask you the ultimate question. I want 311 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: to once in your life be honest. Okay, do you 312 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: want Iran to win this war? Do you want America 313 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: to lose any Iran to win? Yes or no? It's 314 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: a simple question. 315 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: Home is the end of anything the way that you're 316 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 6: phrasing your question today, putting it in the past tense 317 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 6: like today, we get to decide. I actually think if 318 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: the Mulla's brother in law is the president and they 319 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 6: still have that uranium on the thing and we turn 320 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 6: around and go home, I don't think we've accomplished very 321 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 6: much at all. 322 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Didn't answer my question. I mean, this is what I've 323 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: This is what's frightening when I speak to you. Really, 324 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: it's just frightening. Either you don't want to listen or 325 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: you don't have the mental capacity to listen. I didn't 326 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: talk to you about the Mullah's brother in law and 327 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: the uranium that's under the ground, and on and on 328 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and look, Bill, please what all due respect? Okay, you're 329 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: the one that called Afghanistan a brilliant, a brilliant military operation, 330 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: that massive, dishonorable withdrawal, which even almost every Democrat now 331 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: says was a disaster and cause Biden most likely his presidency. 332 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know what you know where you're coming from, 333 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, okay, but my point is a different one. 334 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Do you want Iran to win the war? Are you 335 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: siding with the Iran over the United States? Who would 336 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: you rather win this war? Iran or America? 337 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 6: Give me your answer, do not want Iran to win 338 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 6: in the war. I also do not think that sizing 339 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 6: up your enemy with the clear eye is treason. 340 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: Okay. 341 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 6: I don't think the president should be out there saying 342 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: it's almost over and we're just getting started in the 343 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 6: same sentence, okay, I don't think that leaving them with 344 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 6: the transferred power and they still have their uranium. So 345 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: tell me what is the big victory besides destroying the 346 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 6: world oil market, which is gonna hit us at the 347 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: gas pump and we're not gonna like it very much. 348 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, number one, Biden destroyed us at the gas pump, 349 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: and you said there was no inflation, and then you 350 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: said it was temporary, and then you told us no, no, no, no, 351 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: it's all in our heads. So don't tell me now 352 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: you care about prices at the pump. You were the 353 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: one that guaranteed a Biden victory, then you guaranteed a 354 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Kamala victory because according to you, I'm just paraphrasing everything 355 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: you've told us over the years. According to you, you 356 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: said January sixth was worse than nine to eleven, worse 357 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: than World War two, worse even than the Civil War, 358 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: and that January six with one hundred percent, one hundred 359 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: percent guarantee the Democrats winning in November. So you make 360 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: these outlandish predictions, you say the craziest things imaginable, and 361 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: then you call up the station I'm being honest with you, 362 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: and then you say, well, Trump hasn't thought this thing through. Look, 363 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: from an objective point of view, he has set back 364 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: the Iranian nuclear program at least a decade. There's no 365 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: disputing that he set Iran's ballistic arsenal and missile program 366 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: a full decade, their support of terrorist proxies a full decade. 367 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Even the biggest Iran supporter admits militarily they have been 368 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: crippled and dismantled for a general. Now you may say 369 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: the consequences are not worth it, or the long term 370 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: geopolitical fallout. There's arguments to be made, of course, but 371 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: for you to call up this show after your rabid 372 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: support for Joe Biden, and by the way, to show 373 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: you how insane you've been. You denied the fact that 374 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Biden was even senile. You told us he was sharp 375 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: as attack. 376 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: In fact, you told us he was the greatest president 377 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 7: we ever had since FDR. You called us and said 378 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 7: he's FDR. And now you stand there and make fun 379 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 7: of Trump and hegg Seth. So just so that you understand, okay, 380 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 7: I put this in your crack pie, Bill and smoke it. 381 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 7: Donald Trump and Pete. 382 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Hegseth are Albert Einstein compared to Joe. So if Joe 383 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Biden was good enough for you, believe me, Trump is 384 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: infinitely better than Joe Biden. But again, thanks for the call. 385 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: Bill. 386 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight 387 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: is the number. 388 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: You know. 389 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: What I can't stand from moonbats like Bill and Sudbury 390 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: is if Joe Biden was bombing Iran, I'm telling you 391 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: he'd be supporting it. If a Democrat president, I don't care. 392 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Take your pick. If Hillary was bombed and by the way, 393 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: she said if she won in two thousand and eight, 394 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: she was gonna bomb Iran. She came out said, we're 395 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: having a regime change war in Iran. We're gonna bomb 396 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: the Mullas and overthrow the Mullas. I guarantee you Bill 397 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and Sudbury like a trained seal. Oh y y'all. So 398 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: it whatever Trump does, bad, whatever Democrats do whatever, no 399 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: matter how disastrous, good. And he calls the show and 400 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: he thinks, like, what we're gonna take you seriously, like, 401 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: we don't remember everything that you said. Now, if you 402 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: called and said, hey, look I was wrong, you know 403 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: I was wrong on this. I was wrong on that. 404 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I kind of reevaluated my position, that's something else. But no, 405 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: this guy, he just a fanatic. Is a fanatic, is 406 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: a fanatic. And that's what you're seeing, by the way, 407 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: from both the Mullas and the Democrats. The Democrats now 408 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: are openly hoping and siding with the Mullas. They want 409 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: Trump to lose the war. The media wants Trump to 410 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: lose the war. They want Iran to win the war 411 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: because they believe if Iran wins the war, this will 412 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: humiliate Trump and cause him to get slaughtered in the 413 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: midterm elections. So let's be very clear where the Democratic 414 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: left is coming from. Okay, they're traders. They're traders. This 415 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: is not a principled anti war movement. They're openly citing 416 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: for the enemy to win, and in my book, that's treason. 417 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. 418 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: Russ in Boston, Thanks for holding Russ, and welcome well, Jeff. 419 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: This is the first time I've followed the POSTA boy 420 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: for liberalism is a mental disorder. Okay, you know. 421 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, Russ, you think about it from this point on, 422 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: my friend, no matter what you say, you're gonna sound 423 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: like an absolute genius. 424 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: Ah, Dear God, please, Okay, Jeff, let me tell you 425 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: what I want to see, and I'm gonna call it 426 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: Operations Free. My countrymen, we need to train Iranians in 427 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: this country. You have another cont phase. Within eight to 428 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: twelve weeks. We can train infantrymen. In three months, we 429 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: could start the invasion with the backup of American firepower 430 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: and the assets of our allies. We need to help 431 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: the Iranian people take their country back and without questioning, 432 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: no American boots on the ground. You know, I'm a 433 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: firm believer in helping people to help themselves to free 434 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: their country. 435 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Well, Russ, let me ask you this, and this is 436 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: a likely I'm not saying it's a nothing is guaranteed, okay, 437 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: but just it's a likely scenario. It could easily happen. 438 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: Not saying it will, but it could happen. The Strait 439 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: of Hormus, the defenses are shattered. They blow up every 440 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: remaining boat and ship and vessel. The Iranians haveling minds. 441 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: The strait is now clear. They've reopened. Now that passageway 442 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: or is now flowing back to the rest of the world. 443 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Now the Iranian regime has no more cards. Their last 444 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: card is now gone. But militarily they're defeated, but the 445 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: regime still stands. What does Trump do? Many in his 446 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: team are saying it's over, declare victory, go home. I 447 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: know the Mullas remain, but they're going to be ineffectual, 448 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: toothless for a very long time to come. And maybe, 449 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: you know Russ's suggestion, we can build up an insurgency movement, 450 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: arm them, train them, and maybe down the road they 451 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: can be overthrown from within. Or should Trump say the 452 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: hell with it, Let's send in ground troops. Let's send 453 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: in the Marines, Let's finish this thing once and for 454 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: all overthrow the Ayatolas, and let's see if we can 455 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: pick some people there on the ground to effectively govern 456 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: the country. Should he go for the economic political jugular 457 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: and you know, bring in regime change by the United States, 458 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: or should he declare victory and essentially go home. 459 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: First of all, Jeff, if I'm understanding you correctly, that 460 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: choice would require American boots on the ground. Am i 461 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: am I correcting what you're saying. 462 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Do you mean about regime change? Yes, yeah, that would 463 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: require boots on the ground. 464 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: All right, absolutely not, Jeff. And let me tell you this, Okay, 465 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: and I've never said this over the year before, but 466 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to say it now. Do you want to 467 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: know what the biggest mistake we made in Vietnam? We 468 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: didn't win the hats and minds of the Vietnamese people 469 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: to fight and kill the communists. Now, let me tell 470 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: you what we should have done in Vietnam. First of all, 471 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: Lindon Johnson was a complete jerk, There's no question about it. 472 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: One of the worst commanders in chief we've had in 473 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: my lifetime. Okay, So anyways, what we should have done 474 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: as soon as you know, there was the the Tonquin 475 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: Golf resolution. We should have number one Flattennuy. We should 476 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: have bombed all their port facilities, and we should have 477 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: mined all their habits. In the meantime, you take the 478 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: you expand the Peace Corps in south in the southern 479 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: part of Vietnam called the Delta. And if we had 480 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: worked with the with the with the Vietnamese people and 481 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 3: turned their lives around and made their lives better, and 482 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: to show them the fact that we will support them 483 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: in beating the communists and they can have a wonderful 484 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: country with freedom and the enjoyment of life, that's what 485 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: we should have done. Now that's Vietnam. Now let's talk 486 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: about Afghanistan, all right. First of all, in Afghanistan, you 487 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: have rotten men in that country, Okay, to believe in 488 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: honor killings as far as they're concerned, will in the 489 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: subservient slaves, that's what the hell they are. Well we 490 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: should have done is we should have trained at least 491 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: four battalions of women over there and let the women 492 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: take control of their country. And believe me, one thing 493 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: that I've learned from the Israelis Is women can be 494 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: great combat soldiers just like men, okay, and as men. 495 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: Let let's never forget that, okay. So basically, all right, 496 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: and the other thing I want to say this talk 497 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: about love between men and women are all okay, Just 498 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: go on to family court and then tell me about 499 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: love and see what happens in family court in many cases. 500 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: All right, So women could make excellent combat soldiers. And 501 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: you know what, they might have had to kill those 502 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: village chiefs, they might have had to kill their father, 503 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: their brother, whatever, Okay, but the women should have been 504 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: able to take over their country and make those men 505 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: suffer for what they've done over the years. That's what 506 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: we should have done, well, you. 507 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Know, russ just to add to what you're saying. And 508 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: all they could do is add that, you know. That 509 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: was one of the things I found more disgusting about 510 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: Biden's withdrawal, is humiliating, disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan was that 511 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: it's not just that it handed the country over to 512 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: the Taliban, but it consigned women literally to slavery. Women 513 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: are being stoned. Women can no longer drive, women can't 514 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: go to school, women can't paint their nails, Women have 515 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: to cover their heads from head to toe. Women are 516 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: being sold as slaves on the market. They literally have 517 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: market auctions where they sell women. I mean, it's a filthy, ruthless, 518 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: barbaric regime. And we sold all of those people out, 519 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: and many of those that sided with us and allied 520 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: with us have been tortured, imprisoned and murdered. And you 521 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: have people like Bill and Sudbury who to this day 522 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: go on about how it was such a brilliantly executed withdrawal, 523 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: a masterful military campaign, and never mind how many Americans 524 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: were killed, never mind what happened at Abbygate, those thirteen Marines. 525 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: And as long as I live, russ I gotta tell you. 526 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: And I don't want to get too off track because 527 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: I want to stick to Iran, but I'll never forget 528 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: the images of people on those cargo planes in Afghanistan, 529 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: those last flights, where they were hanging from the wheels 530 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: of the plane, the tires of the plane, and the 531 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: plane is in the air and it's three four hundred, 532 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: five hundred, six hundred, one thousand feet fifteen hundred feet 533 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: and they just fall from the sky to their death 534 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: because they so feared what was going to come next 535 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: after we left, and that people like Bill and Sudbury 536 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: and so many liberals, including by the way, the media, 537 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: which cheerleaded it the whole time. Bravo, bravo clapping, Bravo, Biden, 538 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: the statesman, the leader, Okay, and Mark Milly, who to 539 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: me will go down in eternal shame for being the 540 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: man who commanded and oversaw this disgraceful treason its exit 541 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan. And so the one thing that I 542 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: hope Trump does, whatever you think about this war, is 543 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go in, go in. And if you're 544 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: not gonna go in, don't go in.