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Speaker 1: Today is great. This is awesome. It feels like spring

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Speaker 1: weather is really starting to arrive in Seattle. Baseball is underway,

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Speaker 1: it's almost time for the draft. We got all kinds

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Speaker 1: of cool stuff to talk about. All this is nice,

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Speaker 1: but I think I just spend some time with my

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Speaker 1: buddy Hugh Millan. It would make everything even better. And

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Speaker 1: he agreed to join us today for the next three

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Speaker 1: else to do with his life.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it is with us now.

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Speaker 3: With you, Yeah, I'm gonna leave the floor to you

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Speaker 3: on something, you know, Mariners. Yeah, four games into this,

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Speaker 3: I think your listeners want to hear about that, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they do it all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I honestly have no idea what our

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Speaker 1: listeners want to hear about it. You know why they're

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Speaker 1: even here to be honest with you every day at

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Speaker 1: three o'clock. But I look, I mean, you guys know

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Speaker 1: my take on this. It's freaking four games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do the math for me, right, Like, nobody does it

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Speaker 1: better than you. If this were the Seahawks season, seventeen

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Speaker 1: game season, four games in it, where are we at progress?

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Speaker 1: Wise of a seventeen game NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we're in game one. Okay, second quarter? All right,

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Speaker 3: four remaining four forty nine left from the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean, obviously we can observe, we can make

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Speaker 1: some observations. I give you some thoughts on what we've

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Speaker 1: right now. But that's not how this radio show works.

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Speaker 1: That's not how this business works, and it's not how

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Speaker 1: baseball works. I said this last week to Jackson. The

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Speaker 1: poor bastards you across the country that have to do

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Speaker 1: a postgame show and take calls after every single baseball

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Speaker 1: game for one hundred and sixty two games, I have

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Speaker 1: no idea how they do it. I mean, we used

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Speaker 1: to do it back in the day with Baseball's best

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Speaker 1: postgame show. I'm gonna tell you right now, is freaking painful.

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Speaker 1: It was awful. I hated doing it, all right.

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Speaker 4: I hate it.

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Speaker 3: Teams on his skid, yeah, Bucky cut his teeth that way,

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Speaker 3: and it's hard to at least with baseball.

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Speaker 4: You know, the mind's.

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Speaker 3: Eye, you can you can create, you know, you don't.

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Speaker 3: There's no confusion like in football, Like it's hard to

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Speaker 3: paint the picture of what's happening with twenty two guys.

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Speaker 3: Baseball much easier. You know virtually everything you describe. And

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Speaker 3: that's why radio was such a great medium for baseball

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Speaker 3: for all those decades. Football didn't overtake baseball until the

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Speaker 3: nineteen sixties with the real event of football, but with

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Speaker 3: a television But you know, I think I think the

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Speaker 3: the two most important, the biggest takeaways for me four

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Speaker 3: games into this are both good. One is, in no

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Speaker 3: particular order, Brendan Donovan.

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Speaker 3: You know there's a question at third base. You know,

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Speaker 3: his bat looks real, lively. I guess there's still a

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a big question mark.

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Speaker 3: And then the other part is is to have you know,

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Speaker 3: Emerson Hancock have the type of performance that he did,

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Speaker 3: because if you've if Depoto has done it again, if

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Speaker 3: just think of what that does for the franchise, whether

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Speaker 3: Mostly you've said, Okay, this guy could really be a dude,

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Speaker 3: The idea that you could have if Hancock is coming

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember last year they were kind of bouncing

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Speaker 1: Dan Wilson lift them in the sixth inning there with

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Speaker 1: ninety seven pitches and a no hitter. I mean, first

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Speaker 1: no way he's finishing that game. His career high. You

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Speaker 2: It doesn't feel to.

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Speaker 1: Me that no hitters are that big a deal anymore

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Speaker 1: League baseball. Perfect game different story, right, Like if you

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Speaker 1: get a perfect game going, all right, maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 2: But the perfect game was gone.

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Speaker 1: The no hitter doesn't seem to be Andrews as big

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Speaker 5: No, And it was his first start of the year too,

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Speaker 5: So if we're talking about this in July or something,

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Speaker 5: ninety seven through six, Like you guys said, there's just

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Speaker 5: no way he's finishing that off, and it's the right

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Speaker 5: so we get the guy feeling good about himself so

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Speaker 6: So I feel good it'd be.

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Speaker 3: It'd being the easy Google serves. Maybe Andrews he can

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're not, so I I my guess would be

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Speaker 1: Let me jump in because I I'm having a bit

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Speaker 1: of a problem now at my age, and I don't

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Speaker 4: If it's running to the toilet, yes, Jack.

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Speaker 2: Well, yakay, that's that's one of them. But that's got

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Speaker 2: toppy and you're gonna be there. It's both sides, all right,

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Speaker 1: But my my problem is is that I'm having a

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Speaker 1: hard time dating something like what took place five years

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Speaker 2: It feels like I was there fifty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so twenty twenty one, this is what I was

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Speaker 1: talking about. Twenty twenty one, there were nine no hitters

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Speaker 1: we'll see how many happened this year and.

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Speaker 4: How many happened last back a few years.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't happen before twenty one, but I

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Speaker 1: do remember in twenty twenty one there was a buttload

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they were happening.

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Speaker 1: Every damn night, and it just kind of felt like

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Speaker 1: the novelty of the no hitter doesn't feel today what

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Speaker 1: it felt like when when you and I were kids.

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Speaker 3: You well, but to your point, you just said in

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Speaker 3: twenty one there was nine, and then in subsequent year

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Speaker 3: there's been four. Correct, So that would speak here again

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Speaker 3: whether my hypothesis is wrong. Right, there were none last year.

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Speaker 3: None last year by the way. Okay, Well, that's speaking

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Speaker 3: to what I'm alluding to that more and more managers

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Speaker 3: games that we saw yesterday, exactly those type of games

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Speaker 3: and saying no, sorry, dude, you're getting the hook. I

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Speaker 3: but we ain't doing that because of the concern for

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Speaker 4: I'll say this for the most part.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Mariner's staff was not as healthy in twenty

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Speaker 3: five as they were in twenty four, right, correct. But

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Speaker 3: But by and large, whether they're they're the young guys

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think it again.

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Speaker 5: I think that no hitter versus perfect game is a

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Speaker 5: great kind of discussion because if it were a perfect game,

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Speaker 5: he wouldn't have ninety seven pitches because he would wouldn't

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Speaker 5: of helps get to that point. But you're right, and

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Speaker 5: I think it is becoming kind of a thing. If

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Speaker 5: you get your aces, but you also get the guy

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Speaker 5: So maybe if it's like one of those veteran pitchers

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Speaker 2: Well, Cayl still think typically yeah, yeah, sixty home runs.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna of course, ops is not gonna be.

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Speaker 1: But here's what you can here's what you can glean

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Speaker 5: I think that's completely realistic. And to answer your question

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Speaker 1: I just want to see them be more consistent from

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Speaker 4: Right for Castillo. You know what's thirty what's he thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Right, Look, I'm not I'm not ready to start talking

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Speaker 1: Well, come back, We're gonna hit on the Duke Yukon

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Speaker 1: four ball and strike calls that were overturned with ABS

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. So I'm curious to get Andrews your

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Speaker 1: thoughts to you, your thoughts, thoughts on the text line,

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Speaker 1: are we a fan of what of this whole new

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Speaker 1: system that we're seeing? Next on ninety three three KJRFMM

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back here at Jimmy's. On First, we'll

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Speaker 1: do a little fun with audio. Come up pre forty

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Speaker 1: five on the radio show. Bill Krueger will join us

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Speaker 1: at five pm. Mike de Corsi around six twenty. We

449
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Speaker 1: got to spend some time Hughey talking about the end

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Speaker 1: of that Duke yukon game, man, because that was bananas.

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Speaker 1: Who is the kids like to say yesterday in college basketball?

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that in a moment. Lots of

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Speaker 1: stuff in the NFL to talk about, some top thirty

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Speaker 1: visits for the Seahawks, including a running back by.

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Speaker 2: The way, starting to trickle in.

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling that you may be watching more

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Speaker 1: tape this year getting ready for the draft than you

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Speaker 1: ever have before because of the possibility of the Hawks

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Speaker 1: taking a running back later, maybe on Day two or

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Speaker 1: day three.

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Speaker 2: So the amount of money we're paying you, by the way,

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Speaker 2: step up, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, because I want breakdowns on the running back from

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Speaker 1: Kansas State and maybe even some undrafted free agents.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the standard. I'll give you the first pick,

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Speaker 3: Fernando Menod there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what we should talk about him too, man,

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, is this a guy that you

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Speaker 1: feel totally comfortable taking number one overall?

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Speaker 2: If you're the Raiders. But let's let's go back to

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Speaker 2: the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the Maritors split the Guardians obviously, everybody around

473
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Speaker 1: baseball though, every sports talk Tom Dick and Harry around

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Speaker 1: the country today, including bozos like us, who's talking about

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Speaker 1: the ABS system?

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Speaker 2: What'd you think of it? What did you make of

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Speaker 2: the ABS system?

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Speaker 1: So I saw a stat and I'm pretty sure this

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Speaker 1: is correct what I say. There were ninety four ball

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Speaker 1: and strike calls that were overturned by the ABS system

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Speaker 1: last weekend over a four day period. Why don't we

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Speaker 1: go around the room, Andrews, you want to jump in

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Speaker 1: just real quick, or here you want to go first,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Huie, and share your thoughts on the new

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Speaker 1: automated ball and strike system.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 3: I've got a very strong take on this, okay, And

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Speaker 3: there are a handful of takes that I get that

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Speaker 3: that reached a threshold that I call it. Our descendants

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Speaker 3: are gonna label us idiots okay for not having his take. Okay, Okay, Like,

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Speaker 3: by the way, one hundred years from now, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: going to write about this and people are gonna they're

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Speaker 3: gonna bruise their foreheads with their alms that that that

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Speaker 3: we went through this era and let me let me

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Speaker 3: just reverse engineer at anders.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna walk back. I'm gonna go from

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Speaker 4: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: To me when when you say, okay, we've got instant

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Speaker 3: instant replay in the NFL, and I was a player

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Speaker 3: rep and we had the Players Association, had to prove

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Speaker 3: all this stuff and and uh, to me, there's a

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Speaker 3: cost associated with trying to get the play right, and

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Speaker 3: that is you you disrupt the rhythm of the game,

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Speaker 3: and the and the rhythm of the game is a

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Speaker 3: valuable objective. So you are drawing from one objective to

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Speaker 3: fulfill another objective with.

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Speaker 7: A b S.

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Speaker 3: You don't have that you have the technology. It is

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Speaker 3: not It does not slow down the game. In fact,

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Speaker 3: it speeds is up. There's no arguments, there's no catcher

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Speaker 3: framing influence. You have an immediate call over the pitch.

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Speaker 3: It's a superior way. And they forget this this intermediate

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Speaker 3: period where we're saying, oh, ABS challenges per tuper game.

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Speaker 3: But this is a bunch of hogwash. Do the ABS

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Speaker 3: every pitch.

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Speaker 2: Now, right right now. It's the superior.

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Speaker 3: System and there's no objectives that are being unfulfilled. There's

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Speaker 3: no pace of game like the NFL. So for me,

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. They should be on ABS period,

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Speaker 3: end of story, right, every second pitch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Andrews, you want to follow up? Uh, I'll do

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Speaker 2: the last take.

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Speaker 6: Very new school of you, Hugh, and I'm proud, let's go.

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Speaker 1: He was usually stuck in like the eighteen twenty of

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Speaker 1: How bad the Radu The umpires they miss I get

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Speaker 1: I'm so worked up.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling umpires refs. They miss fifteen to twenty people,

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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty pitches per game.

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Speaker 6: Ye are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Andrews, go ahead, jump in.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm all with you on this one. I

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Speaker 5: thought I was going to convince you guys both that

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Speaker 5: this was a good idea. But I don't hate the

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Speaker 5: idea about the challenge system. It kind of makes it

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Speaker 5: a little bit strategic and all that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 5: hope we get to a point where it's just full

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Speaker 5: time ABS. We don't even have to worry about this.

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Speaker 5: But for me, as someone who has been hoping for

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Speaker 5: this for a long time, I'm happy we have some

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Speaker 5: level of it at this point. But yeah, I hope

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Speaker 5: it gets to a point where we go full time

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Speaker 5: because I think it really enhances that game.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is proof what we're about to do here,

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Speaker 1: that we don't have an opinion just for the sake

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Speaker 1: of the show, right, Like we would get together before

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Speaker 1: the show, all three of us and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Hugh, you take this angle like

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Speaker 1: a debate class. Yeah, Andrews, you take this angle, and

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Speaker 1: I'll take this angle. This is proof that we don't

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Speaker 1: do that because I agree with both of you guys,

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Speaker 1: and it's boring as hell. And here's my point. Tyresee Maxi.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the name Tyree Maxi. Do He plays

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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia seventy six ers. You know you're a

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Speaker 1: big NBA guy. He averages thirty eight minutes a game.

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Speaker 1: You know why he doesn't play forty eight minutes a

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Speaker 1: game because nobody plays forty eight minutes a game in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. He's the leader in minutes played in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You know why because he's human and needs a break.

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Speaker 1: So when the Sixers take Tyrese Maxey off the floor,

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Speaker 1: they're going to a lesser option because he's a starter.

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Speaker 1: And now they're bringing in a backup because he can't

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Speaker 1: play forty eight minutes because he's human.

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Speaker 2: If he were a robot, he could, he could play

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Speaker 2: forty eight minutes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's human being. He can't play forty eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: So you were going with the best option available when

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Speaker 1: you do rely on the ABS system to tell you

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Speaker 1: if a pitch is a ball or a strike, yet

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Speaker 1: you're not relying on the best system available for every

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Speaker 1: pitch in a game. So I'm totally with you. I

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Speaker 1: would just say use it every play. Every pitch there's

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Speaker 1: a ding or a bong or whatever that goes off

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Speaker 1: of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows, red light, green light, whatever.

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Speaker 1: You want to do, umpires, whatever, whatever, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude, the umpire doesn't even need to be there.

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Speaker 1: The umpire could be hanging out in case there's a

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Speaker 1: play at the play and just make a call whatever.

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Speaker 1: Maybe at some point you'll use the ABS system, some

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Speaker 1: kind of Hawkeye system to tell you if a guy is.

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Speaker 2: Safe or if he's out at home play.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, because what's happening right now in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. Honestly, every move that they have made

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Speaker 1: has been for one reason for the benefit of impatient

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Speaker 1: baseball fans. Because baseball was so behind the times, they

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Speaker 1: had to speed things up. These three hour games, they're slow,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of monotony going on. Now they have

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Speaker 1: a runner on second base, they have a pitch clot

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Speaker 1: Now they're using the ABS system, but the ABS system

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Speaker 1: has kind of taking it backwards, and that now you

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Speaker 1: are stopping the game for a challenge. And I found

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Speaker 1: myself over the weekend guys watching some baseball, not just

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Speaker 1: the Mariners but other games as well, being a little

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Speaker 1: bit irritated when they stopped the game for a challenge.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why are we stopping the game? Just use

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Speaker 2: this damn thing all the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm still on the fence of whether I even like

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Speaker 3: replay in the NFL. I get the argument we want

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Speaker 3: to get it right, but I think disrupting the flow

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Speaker 3: of the game is really really a critical element. And me, yes,

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Speaker 3: if I was the Bizarre of the NFL, this would

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Speaker 3: be my take.

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Speaker 4: What I'd say.

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Speaker 3: I would have a system, and I've got a lot

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Speaker 3: of the details that they're right here. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to get them into them on this segment, but I

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Speaker 3: would part of my system would be reviews are never

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Speaker 3: more than thirty seconds. You have to make a decision.

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Speaker 3: If it's not clear in thirty seconds, just go with

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Speaker 3: what you think is.

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Speaker 2: It should still take that long. No, it shouldn't, but

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Speaker 2: it shouldn't take that long.

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Speaker 3: But but now compare that to baseball. So you said it,

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Speaker 3: You said it very aptly, David. So we got we've

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Speaker 3: we've got a superior.

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Speaker 4: System and an inferior system.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: The superior system is the abs, right, and the inferior

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Speaker 3: system is the human eye.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And and think of think about in.

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Speaker 3: The World Baseball Classic that the final strike was a

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Speaker 3: brutal call.

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Speaker 2: Terrible, brutal call, terrible.

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Speaker 3: And so so we know that we have a superior

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Speaker 3: system and there's no drawback, there's no drawback.

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Speaker 1: Well, the only look I can unders Union like, well,

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Speaker 1: well no, no, no, Well we got to break here for

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Speaker 1: in a minute. But one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: parts of baseball that is unique in some ways to

632
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Speaker 1: other sports is the drama. Right, umpires getting mad, uh

633
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: excuse me, managers getting mad, arguments at the plate, you know,

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Speaker 1: loop memory's face whatever. That's what I'm saying is that

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Speaker 1: I can see how somebody would say we can still

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Speaker 1: protect the romanticism in a little bit of a way

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Speaker 1: of baseball, but also maybe when a team needs a

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Speaker 1: crucial call to be confirmed yes or no, we have

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Speaker 1: this system that can do it. I understand that perspective.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm saying I

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Speaker 1: understand it because if you do use the ABS system

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Speaker 1: all the time and let this hawkeye system is that

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Speaker 1: what it's called Andrews, the hawk eye system, the overhead camera.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you.

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Speaker 1: Go with that, then you are eliminating the idea of

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Speaker 1: a manager running out of a dugout and getting into

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Speaker 1: an umpire's face and ripping him a new a hole,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of people love to see.

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Speaker 2: That's a part of the baseball the people I another sea.

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Speaker 3: You could do that on other aspects of this, but

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Speaker 3: eventually that's a vital element. It can be part of

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Speaker 3: other things, but not the balls and strikes are the.

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Speaker 4: Most fundamental aspect of the entire life.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, by the I think if you go

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Speaker 1: with the A B and look, I'm agreeing with you,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm just for shiggles and gets playing. The

657
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Speaker 1: understand if we go if we go the other way

658
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Speaker 1: and we say we're going to do this for every pitch,

659
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Speaker 1: are we then going to do it for everything?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Plays it, third plays, a second plays it, first plays

662
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Speaker 1: at the plate, balls over the wall, you know, was

663
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Speaker 1: a ball trap?

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Speaker 2: Was it caught? Are we going to be able to

665
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Speaker 2: do this?

666
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Speaker 1: Because I think the technology is going to be there

667
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Speaker 1: eventually where you can use a robot and a computer

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Speaker 1: that's you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a guy who's arguing that in my lifetime. I'm

670
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Speaker 3: no young man in my lifetime, mark my words on this.

671
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Speaker 3: There will be you will not be permitted to drive

672
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Speaker 3: on some roads because the technology that we have in

673
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Speaker 3: Waymos and in Tesla's and all those the rest of

674
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Speaker 3: self driving, they will be deemed to be superior, and

675
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: it will be you as a human will be deemed

676
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Speaker 3: to be dangerous and you will not be allowed eno

677
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Speaker 3: If you want to go drive on a country road

678
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Speaker 3: because you like driving, that'll be permitted. There'll be times

679
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Speaker 3: will you will not be permitted to drive.

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Speaker 2: So like the future's.

681
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Speaker 3: Coming, But right now, abs what you said about.

682
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Speaker 4: Whether it's is it a home run or not? Or

683
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Speaker 4: a bang bang at first base or whatever? The drawback

684
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Speaker 4: there's a cost associated that with which is the.

685
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Speaker 3: Time of the game. You have to stop, you have

686
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Speaker 3: to review, and that disrupts the game. ABS does not

687
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Speaker 3: have the disruption at all.

688
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Speaker 4: It's actually faster.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a break with a little fun with audio

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Speaker 1: coming up next on ninety three three KJRFM.

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Speaker 6: It's now time for something in Dig's fun with audio.

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Speaker 6: Jimmy G pawn Star, Jimmy mister Daroppolo. Now let's have

693
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Speaker 6: some fun with audio, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's get to it here on a Monday night

695
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Speaker 1: from Jimmy is on first Mariners Yankees across the street

696
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Speaker 1: at T Mobile Parker right now, a little fun with

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Speaker 1: audio slash.

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Speaker 2: Hey did you hear that? Hey? H did you happen

699
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Speaker 2: to hear that?

700
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Speaker 4: What's that?

701
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Speaker 2: Dick? We start in the UFC. You know the name

702
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Speaker 2: Dana White.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, ahead of their event at CPA over the weekend,

704
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Speaker 1: UFC Commissioner Dana White was asked about their use of

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Speaker 1: AI in promotional content and the fans not being happy

706
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Speaker 1: about this move by UFC.

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Speaker 10: So, I've seen a lot of fans and viewers online

708
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Speaker 10: commenting or discussing what they perceive as a lot of

709
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Speaker 10: AI generated content in the broadcast that maybe wasn't in

710
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Speaker 10: previous iterations of the UFC. Is this something that's coming

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Speaker 10: with the paramount deal or just a new direction for

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Speaker 10: the UFC, or do you have any insight on that?

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 10: AI stuff commercials part of the promotional content just AI

715
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Speaker 10: in the UFC in general, I've seen fans complaining.

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Speaker 9: About, Oh yeah, what are they complaining about?

717
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Speaker 10: I guess I've seen people saying that the UFC should

718
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Speaker 10: be paying artists instead of using generative AI stuff like that,

719
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Speaker 10: Give me a break?

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Speaker 9: AI is comment and if were using AI, who gives it?

721
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Speaker 9: People are upset about it?

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Speaker 4: We should use artists? How about this? Shut them up

723
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Speaker 4: and watch the fights.

724
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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much of Dana White's press conferences,

726
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Speaker 1: Hugh you watch, but he talks like that all the time.

727
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Speaker 1: All this press conferences are like dropping F bombs. He's

728
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Speaker 1: used a lot of profanity. It's unlike any other professional

729
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Speaker 1: sports league out there the way this guy talks. But

730
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Speaker 1: it does bring up you know, a good question, right,

731
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Speaker 1: because we started this conversation a couple of years ago

732
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Speaker 1: when it came out that NBC, remember the old this

733
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Speaker 1: is the NBA on NBC. You know that guy I'm

734
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Speaker 1: talking about. That guy's name is Jim Fagan. He died

735
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Speaker 1: seven years ago. NBC now has the rights back to

736
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Speaker 1: the NBA, and they are using his voice.

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Speaker 2: They are recreating his.

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Speaker 1: Voice from seven years ago on the air using artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't NBC using Al Michael's voice as well at the

740
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Speaker 1: at the Olympic Games?

741
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Speaker 2: And he wasn't even there.

742
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Speaker 1: So what do we make of all this new fat

743
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Speaker 1: and sports of artificial intelligence recreating stuff?

744
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Speaker 3: Well, I would think that there's something along the order

745
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Speaker 3: of a copyright to the voice, right even in his state,

746
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Speaker 3: in his descendants.

747
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Speaker 2: And they're cool with it.

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Speaker 3: They're cool with the family's cool, right, right, They're okay

749
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Speaker 3: with it, yes, yes, and okay, Well we were just

750
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Speaker 3: talking in the last segment. You know versions of AI

751
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Speaker 3: are here, right, I think that it should be disclosed

752
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: if they're using it and advertising, right, I don't. I

753
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Speaker 3: don't know what they're doing, so I'm kind of talking

754
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Speaker 3: out of ignorance, but I'm assuming there's some type of commercial.

755
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Speaker 3: What do they having two guys that are are pretending

756
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Speaker 3: to have some smack talk or or bang each other

757
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Speaker 3: with a chair or.

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Speaker 4: Something and that's all AI generated.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there should be at the very least

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Speaker 3: some little indication, some icon, right, some kind of universal

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Speaker 3: icon telling you that we can all agree on that's

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Speaker 3: in the corner of an imagery that that just lets

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Speaker 3: us know, hey, this is this is a AI generated image.

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Speaker 2: I love it, all right? All right? Hey, Hugh, did

766
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Speaker 2: you happen to hear that?

767
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Speaker 4: What's that?

768
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Speaker 2: Dick? Let's go to number two.

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Speaker 1: On his podcast, through the Ringer Noted expansion Opposition, Bill

770
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Speaker 1: Simmons talks about how the NBA is handling expansion. Now,

771
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Speaker 1: you with regards to getting Seattle's fans hopes up.

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Speaker 11: If you live in Seattle and you read and consumed

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Speaker 11: all this stuff the last week or so, you're like,

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Speaker 11: this is amazing, We're getting the Sonics back.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 9: That's not what's happening. And I think it's really weird

777
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Speaker 9: how the league is handling this.

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Speaker 11: Why not just be transparent and say, hey, we're just

779
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Speaker 11: to see what we get for these expansion teams.

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Speaker 9: This doesn't mean we're going to have expansion.

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Speaker 11: Instead, you've completely led this poor Seattle people on who

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Speaker 11: now think they're getting a team and I don't know

783
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Speaker 11: if that's true.

784
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Speaker 9: If the goal is we have to right or wrong

785
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Speaker 9: in Seattle.

786
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Speaker 11: First of all, you never should have took the team

787
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Speaker 11: from Seattle in the first place. Criminal when it happened,

788
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 11: I still can't believe it happened. They let it happen,

789
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Speaker 11: and they didn't rectify it for almost twenty years. You

790
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Speaker 11: better know you're going to have a team in Seattle

791
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Speaker 11: in the next three years, because to extend this and

792
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Speaker 11: make it seem like it's going to happen and then

793
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Speaker 11: pull the rug out from under them again would be

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Speaker 11: pretty dune.

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Speaker 1: Well, it would be fed up, and I think I'd

796
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Speaker 1: be done, like forever if that happened, I'd just be out.

797
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Speaker 1: Just wake me up when the freaking thing happens. I'm

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Speaker 1: done talking about forever.

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Speaker 4: That's not forever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm talking in like general terms, right, you know. Okay,

801
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Speaker 1: I mean I reserve the right to change my mind. Okay,

802
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: how's that sound.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a distinction that they're I mean, forever means

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Speaker 3: that even if the star has come back, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: But you were saying, I'm saying, Hugh, at that exact

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Speaker 1: moment in time, my mindset would be that I'm done forever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: on that day I'd be so pissed off at the

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Speaker 1: NBA that on that day I'm like, effet, I'm outscrew

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Speaker 1: these clowns.

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Speaker 2: I'm done. Do I reserve the right to change my mind?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would just say I'm finished, But I probably

812
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Speaker 1: in the end would wake up when they did come back.

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Speaker 2: But that's how pissed off I would be. Number two.

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00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: I think they are saying that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Adam Silver did say last week that, hey,

816
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: there's been no handshakes, there's been nothing set in stone,

817
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: there's been no promises, and there's a chance that we

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Speaker 1: may not expand he did say that I do believe though,

819
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Speaker 1: that it is happening, and I feel good saying that

820
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: the NBA is not going to start this process unless

821
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Speaker 1: they know what's out there. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: there also is a possibility, albeit a very slim one,

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Speaker 1: that this doesn't happen, and we got to be potentially

824
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Speaker 1: prepared for that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've got just having been a player,

826
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Speaker 3: rep and dealt with these owners. All they did is say, hey,

827
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Speaker 3: we're we are voting to look into Seattle and Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: They still have another vote in the summer where they

829
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Speaker 3: could turn it down. And so if you have like

830
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Speaker 3: the revenue protectionists like James Nolan and eshb at the Suns.

831
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Speaker 3: You've got the asset value owners like Josh Harris of

832
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Speaker 3: the seventy six or maybe Genie Buss of the Lakers,

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Speaker 3: the competitive purists like Clay Bennett and Robert Pea, the

834
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Speaker 3: Grizzlies that argue that small market teams it's going to

835
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Speaker 3: be tougher for them because of the thinning out of

836
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Speaker 3: the talent. There's a lot of different factions, and of

837
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: course the NBA they needed seventy five percent vote. If

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Speaker 3: you're one of those that right now you say, you

839
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Speaker 3: know what, I'm probably gonna vote no. But what does

840
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Speaker 3: it hurt for me to vote yes in March?

841
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Speaker 2: To explore?

842
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: Listen, you know who knows, Maybe maybe Adam Silver can

843
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: get a ten to twelve billion dollar bit. I'll just

844
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: see what happened. But I'm probably gonna vote no in

845
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: the summer. Right So, I have never been I have

846
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: you asked me before, I've said it.

847
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Speaker 4: I have never been moved by what's happened.

848
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: I certainly see that there are signs along the the

849
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: the data points here, but this is long from fadea complete.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to get one more and before the break.

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00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: I know we're late. Hey, Hugh, did you happen to

852
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: hear that? What's that? Dick? Let's go to the call.

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: One of the most unbelievable finishes in a March Madness

854
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: game in recent memory. Duke had the ball up by

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Speaker 1: two with ten seconds to go. Andrews, you want to

856
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: play the iron Eagle call? You want to play the

857
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Duke call? Which one you want to hear from me?

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the iron Eagle call, Iron.

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Eagle on CBS. Here's how yesterday's Duke Yukon game ended.

860
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: Seventy to seventy. Duke ten seconds to go, Well to cut.

861
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 6: And run through the ball.

862
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: Who better than this guy get it than the Bills

863
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: and narsaar ahead?

864
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Speaker 3: Is there that.

865
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Speaker 2: Buckles like this?

866
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: He'd stolen about Mullens caravan?

867
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Speaker 2: Two seconds Ullins tosses it up.

868
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Speaker 9: It's gone, We're point three, he.

869
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Speaker 2: Goes and chart.

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Speaker 1: Toterally impossible. You want to throw in the Duke car

871
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: real quick. Let's keep it right here. Here's what the

872
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: final ten seconds hues sounded like on Duke's radio network.

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Speaker 7: Check this out they do for Boozer bobbled it back

874
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 7: for Sar and needs to get rid of it, Duster

875
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 7: Kaden seven seconds, try to throw it ahead, deflected, stolen

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00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 7: by Connecticut. Two seconds it's Mullins up top for the win. Oh,

877
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 7: he hit it with three tints in a second ago

878
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 7: cal Kai Smith ran off the bench. That should be

879
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 7: a technical. Oh with three tints in a second ago.

880
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 7: Connecticut has the lead seventy three to seventy two as

881
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 7: Connecticut got the three from Mullins after the turnover from

882
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 7: Cadaan Booze.

883
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, man, I mean, there's a lot there to pack

884
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: in and break down, but that was one of the

885
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: most stunning finishes I've ever seen in tournament history.

886
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: I was a gas and that's a pretty lame take, like, oh,

887
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: that should be a technical. But you know, we can

888
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: break this down. Here's the thing. He got that ball

889
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: stolen with six and a half seconds. If he holds

890
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: the ball, he's gonna get fouled. There's still ample time.

891
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: If he only makes one of two free throws, then

892
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 3: now Yukon can come down down three and they've They've

893
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: got plenty of time to get a good shot off.

894
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: So what I'm looking at is is cadence. There was

895
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: no defenders on that side of the court. Correct he

896
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: had to He had to do almost like a meadow

897
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: lark lemon hook shot, if you remember what that is.

898
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: Just get it over the top of the defender anywhere,

899
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: just get it down the court. That was a smart

900
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: decision that he made, in my opinion, to try and

901
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: get the ball down the field, down the court.

902
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: But you know, they just they deflected the ball.

903
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: His choice of how he threw the pass was just

904
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: a poor choice.

905
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: Well let's do this. We're gonna break.

906
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to get to, including Bill

907
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: Krueger coming up at five. Mike de Coursi will join

908
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: around six twenty with more on that game coming up

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Speaker 1: on ninety three three KJRFM.