WEBVTT - 1-27-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.799 Don't want to be. 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.040 I've got a flung show on seven hundred WLW. Frozen. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.840 That's how we are this morning. Frozen. Highways were astoundingly 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.800 great this morning, at least for me. Anyway. I know 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.800 there's some trouble spots out there still, but I mean, 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.160 think about it. Ohio is something like, I think in 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:22.040 excess of forty three thousand lane miles of roads forty 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.720 three thousand, So that's like in two days they plowed 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.960 almost two times around the globe. That's crazy. Matt Bruding 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.000 is here from ODOT and he is the guy in 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:32.440 charge of all the plows. Mac, good morning. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.760 How are you You are way overestimating my ability? 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.440 No, no, no, you're only in charge when the plows 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.320 don't do their job, then we yell at Matt. He 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.800 doesn't take credit when everything goes. It's seems like, are 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:45.640 you guys all caught up? 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:45.840 Now? 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.519 I wouldn't say caught up. We're certainly dealing with a 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.199 lot of blowing and drifting issues, but the highways are 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.400 looking a lot better. There are a lot of spots 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.360 that are looking a lot better, but we still have 0:00:58.400 --> 0:00:59.800 a long way to go to get everything back to 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:01.720 perfect where we'd like it to be. So we still 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.800 need people to be careful out there if they're driving around. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.840 Yeah, we'd get calls obviously at the station and especially 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.920 over in the newsroom, people saying, I don't know what 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.800 you guys are saying. There's areas of the roads the 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.800 highways that all of a sudden, it just looks like 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.480 it hasn't been plowed at all. And then in prace 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.400 what causes that all of a sudden the middle there's 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.480 there's just a bunch of snow, do you guys miss 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.600 that is that stuff that's falling off of vehicles? 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:22.000 What is it? 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.559 Probably stuff that's falling off of vehicles? And then again 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.160 a lot of blowing and drifting from the piles on 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.000 the side of the road that we're seeing. But yeah, 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.680 I mean I drove down to Cincinnati from Chilicofee yesterday 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.920 evening and counted dozens of cars that had you know, 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.640 snow still on top of them that was blowing off 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.320 and then with you know, scatter across the highway. And 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.360 so we need people to you know, get that stuff 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.840 off your Car's a visibility issue, but obviously it can 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.920 be a roadway issue. And with it being as cold 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.680 as it is, that's not going to melt anytime soon, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.280 So we need people to do that, do their part. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.560 And then, yes, mother in nature, we see her to 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.559 quit blowing the snow back across the road. That would 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:03.880 be very helpful as well. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.160 All right, so we are now in the Arctic deep 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.000 freeze now for at least the next couple of weeks. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.120 What challenge does that pose to you, guys? 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.440 Well, the main weapon that we use to try to 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.079 de ice roads is salt, and salt becomes less effective 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.880 when temperatures get below twenty we're obviously well below that, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.640 and as you pointed out, we're going to stay below 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.160 that for a while, so that is really going to 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.160 hamper our ability to clear these roads off as quickly 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.919 as we would like to if it were say in 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.960 the mid twenties. One thing that will help us, though, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.640 is the sun. We got a lot of sun yesterday 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.440 and I think you're seeing the results of that. We're 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.799 hopeful that that will continue today and we'll be able 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.920 to get these roads even better. But we also just 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.400 need the wind to calm down. You know, it doesn't 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.200 take much wind to blow this powdery snow around, and 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.240 that's what we're seeing as well in other areas. So 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.640 if that's going to be a challenge and drivers are 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.880 going to just have to be extra alerts because conditions 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.919 can change very quickly when you're out there in these 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:00.000 type of elements. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.200 All right, so walk us through through Matt burning. What 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.760 you guys, what odat did the response timeline? National Weather 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.560 Service first issues a winter storm warning that went an 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.400 effect on Thursday, if not Friday, and that first twenty 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.160 four hours Saturday. Okay, we waited for some snow. May 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:16.919 got a little bit of it, but the real stuff 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.280 didn't start here in Cincinnati anyway until late afternoon on 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.160 Sunday through late Sunday, So it just it started coming 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.440 down and buckets. At that point, what point do you 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.600 shift from pre treatment to full snow snow removal operation. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.040 Well, let me back the clock up even more. Every 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.120 Monday afternoon we have a big call with the National 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.880 Weather Service and our private weather vendor and all of 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.320 our managers and folks across the state of Ohio. We 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.000 do it every Monday afternoon, and so this particular last 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.880 Monday afternoon, they were telling us like, look, there's going 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.080 to be actually I guess it was Tuesday, because last 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.600 Monday was Martin lusking to day. Yeah, but they were 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.720 telling us, you know, this is going to be an 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.200 impactful storm coming later in the week. We had another 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.960 call later in the week to kind of just reset everybody, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.680 to make sure we all had the latest information. And 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.080 like you said, Saturday, we were out kind of trying 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.240 to get ahead of it. In some areas of the state, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.880 we were pre treating roads, but in other areas of 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.880 the state, you just have your crews out ahead of it. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.600 That is the pre treatment. And so I know when 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.760 I was looking at our plow tracking software in house, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.559 there were a lot of plows and I'm sure people 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.080 saw this as well where they were driving around Saturday afternoon. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.799 Plous were staged along the road. They were on their route, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.680 ready to go when those first flakes started falling. And 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.400 so we do that because we want to make sure 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.680 we're out ahead of it. And then of course it's 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.400 around the clock throughout the duration of the storm, and 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.400 they're still out there. They haven't stopped really since probably 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.160 sometime either Friday night or Saturday morning, depending on the location. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.400 All Right, so you guys are throwing down salt at 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.400 what point, how many instanes before you drop the blade. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.560 Oh, they'll drop the blade here, you know, right away, 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.560 as soon as there's measurable snows to be pushed. They 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.120 also don't drop a ton of salt when they're pushing 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.960 that snow. And then we'll add in some things because 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.520 those cold temperatures limit the ability of the salt to work. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.400 They'll use a variety of tools like calcium chloride. We 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:13.200 use magnesium chloride. There's some products that use beat sugar 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.359 beet derivatives to try to activate that salt at lower temperatures. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.119 So all of those things are in the tool belt, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.479 and we're using everything to try to make sure we 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.239 can stay ahead of this winter storm. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.000 What do you guys use from a technology standpoint, Matt Breening. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.960 You know, here in Cincinnati we unveiled the GPS plowtrack app, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.560 which from all intensive purposes, we're pretty critical of them 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:32.960 in the city, and that's not you guys at the 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.680 City of Cincinnati. It looks like it worked really well 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.400 and people are like, hey, my road getting plowed or 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.320 it's not plowed yet, and it seems to work really 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.279 really well. How long have you guys been on that technology. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.480 So we've used that for what I've been an ODETT 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.400 for almost eleven years, and I don't think it was 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.560 too long after I got there that we did a 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.520 research project with a I think it was the University 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.600 of Akron. We did a research project on some kind 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.320 of a plow tracking software that we built in house 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.440 with them, and we continue to use that. It's really 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.720 beneficial to our managers to kind of be able to 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.120 see what conditions are like. It's not just a tracker. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.320 It comes with the cameras that are in the dash 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.520 of the vehicles, so we can see what those look like. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.240 And that's what I and my fellow public information officers 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.080 use to show everybody in those conditions on social media posts. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:21.320 Nice. So Cincinnati's only ten years Cincinnatial only ten years 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:22.679 behind Columbus in the state. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.600 Good. Well, there are a lot of communities that do 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.480 those live tracking things. You know, it's an investment. I'm sure, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.719 I'm sure it's not. I don't know what it costs. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.680 I'm sure it's not cheap to do those kinds of things. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.280 So you have to look at those and weigh those. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.320 I mean, I know other states like Indiana, will they 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.080 put that stuff on their five to one one websites. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.320 So there's just a variety of options for people out there. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.360 It just depends on what level of investment you're willing 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.599 to do and what you think the returnament investment is. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.960 We certainly think that there's a return on it for 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.200 us to be able to manage those in house and 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:55.960 be able to see what the conditions are in real 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.960 time for our managers. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.680 What about temperature censors, those embedded in the highway and 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:00.680 how you have out there. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.240 We have road weather information stations across the state. They're 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.720 called ARWISK stations because of course at O DOOT we 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.080 have to have an acronym for literally every absolutely actually, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.360 so that's an acronym, so yeah, in and of itself. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.440 So there are about two hundred of those across the 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.200 state of Ohio and they will give us a lot 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:25.440 of good data for pavement conditions, temperatures, you know, moisture content, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.760 things like that. That's very helpful for arm An interest 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.200 to decide what, you know, what kind of materials we're 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.840 going to use to what level. You know, each of 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.480 our plows are equipped with very high tech technology to 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.920 be able to adjust exactly how much salt they need 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.400 to be putting out per lane mile, so we can 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.080 dial that in into you very precise with with the 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.560 amount of material that we're putting down. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.520 Yeah, gotcha. He's Matt Bruney with ODOT, our former colleague 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.280 here at seven hundred w W and then he got 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.040 smart started working for the stake making that big cash. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.200 Right now, he's the guy in charge all the snowplows 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.000 and you know, always working to catch up of course 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.280 with snow dress and everything else. But now we're facing 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.080 two weeks of sub zero temperatures in regard to that too, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.640 What changes relative that? What's your strategy like now with 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.880 no snow forecast but rather these these bitterly cold temperatures 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.480 as far as keeping the roadways free of black ice, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.520 and is that even possible? 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.480 It's an ongoing thing. I mean you just have to 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.040 constantly stay on top of it. Same with that blowing 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.560 and drifting. I mean we our folks know where those 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.240 spots are that are you know that generally see that 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.800 blowing and drifting snow, and of course it's just you know, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.120 trying to stay on top of it and keep making passes, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.400 keep treating and keep pushing any salt or any snow 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.200 that accumulates on the roadway, keep putting the salt down. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.920 You just keep on it until the conditions improved to 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.800 the point where you don't have to. So I would 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.680 imagine we will have plow and crews out on the 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.240 road definitely throughout this week, maybe even into the weekend. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.880 We'll see probably not to the level obviously that we 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.240 had on Sunday at the height of the storm, and 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.320 even most of the day yesterday. We were at the 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.600 height of the storm, about twelve hundred fift the crews 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.439 out across the entire state of Ohio and that's pretty 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.200 much an all call, and now we're down to about 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.720 one thousand. So in some areas we've been able to 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.760 reduce the number of folks out on the road, but 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.199 they'll stay out of twelve hour shifts around the clock 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.240 until the job is completely done and we're confident that 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:19.360 the roads are safe. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.839 Yeah, Matt Brooding, you know you'll be driving all of 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.520 a sudden it's like the road's fine, then it's not. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.760 And that is because we've got this wonky thing between 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.959 the state and between local municipalities and counties. Are that matter. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.080 I think that's confusing for a lot of drivers as 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.080 who's response for what peaches a piece of roadway. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.959 Yeah, and I'm glad you asked that. So, I mean 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.520 ODT is responsible for all the state and US routes 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.040 outside municipalities, and all of the interstates in Ohio except 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.439 for the Ohio Turnpike. The Turnpike is a separate entity. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.720 They have their own crews. Your city streets are taken 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.280 care of by your local municipality. They're also township roads 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.400 and county roads that County Engineer's Office takes care of. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.640 Everybody has their network of roads that they maintain and 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.920 take care of. ODAD being one of those. Ours is 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.200 about forty three thousand lane miles, as you said at 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.000 the top of the show, and so it's an ongoing 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.120 effort to take care of what we have to do. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.280 Sometimes you will see those, you know, changing conditions, and 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.400 not just at municipal boundaries, but every plow has a 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.680 dedicated route that it goes on. And so if you're 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.200 you know, going from one plow route where maybe the 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.240 plow is been ahead of you about a half an 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.199 hour and assault has started to activate and treat and 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.440 you cross over to another plow route, where that plow 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.120 might be on the other end of their route or 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.920 back of the garagery filling with salt. That plow route 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.560 might be covered over where you are, depending on if 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.760 it's spelling still, so you can see those changes not 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.720 just at a county or a political municipality boundary, but 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.400 even at a plow route boundary as well. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.760 Now, yeah, so when it changed, like wow, they just 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.559 decided to stop right here. No, it's because jurisdiction. Is 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.760 there a lot of communication between you guys in local 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.079 municipalities accounties. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.200 There's not really too many opportunities for that. I mean, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.240 I think they do stay in touch in some regards, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.719 but I mean to be able to say, hey, I'm 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.960 going to put a plow at this spot, you put 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.120 your plow at that same spot at the same time. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.840 That is really hard to do because you know, again, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.520 they're they're constantly everybody's constantly going out there, and then 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.880 of course you've got to come back and refill with 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.520 fuel and salt, and so somebody's got to take a 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.360 bathroom break every once in a while. You're going to 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.760 shift change. I mean, there's all kinds of reasons why 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.480 it would be very hard to sync up every plow 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.679 in the state of Ohio to make sure that you 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.400 don't have any issues while you're driving. So that's why 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.080 I should come to the front. Drivers pay extra attention 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.640 to these conditions. You know, things can change very quickly, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.200 and that's why I mean, you should never be not 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.640 paying attention to the road, but in conditions like this, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.560 it's even more important that you do. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.559 Yeah, because in a blank of an eye, right, you 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.600 hit a little patch of icets, and it's not a 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.199 guarantee that the roads are going to be completely clear. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.160 So just FYI, you still have to kind of pay 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.320 attention to this stuff. So we have ten to twelve 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.480 inches accumulations. We had that big storm late last year. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.720 Of course too, we're seeing ice build up, so we 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.000 talked about what the strategy is going to be. We've 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.760 got another what two weeks roughly of sub freezing temperatures forecast, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.800 what's the stockpile status for the salt, the calcim covernate, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.719 all that stuff, and we're going to make it through 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:21.120 the season. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.920 So before this storm, we had about four hundred and 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.000 thirty seven thousand tons of salt under roof at ODOP 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.400 facilities across the state of Ohio. I don't have the 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.280 new number yet for what we've been able to put 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.520 down for this particular storm, but I'm sure we ate 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:40.480 into that pretty well. The advantage that ODOT has maybe 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:45.840 over other entities is the large storage capacity, you know, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.120 and the ability to move as resources around the state. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.960 If we really really burnt a pinch, so we begin 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.679 the winner with about eight hundred thousand tons, and then 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.839 throughout the winner we're using that stockpile. Now we can 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.000 get refilled with additional resource is if we need to. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.800 We've got some contracts that we can leverage to try 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.199 to get some salt from other areas if we absolutely 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.720 we're in a pinch. I don't think we're going to 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.080 be in a situation where we're going to be you know, well, guys, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.400 we're out of salt. Sorry, I can't do anything about it. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.360 Our folks in o DOT Central office that do the 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.320 purchasing are really good at working with these suppliers to 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.360 get things. But you know, we've got salt from Cleveland's Fairport. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.520 Those are the mines here in Ohio. We get salt 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:31.040 from Ontario, we get salt from Louisiana. So we have 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.720 options that we can leverage certainly if we need to. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.160 Okay, that's good because you start hearing that going, wow, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.800 we're throwing a lot of salt done. Are we going 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.319 to run out? Because we heard a couple of years 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.319 ago there's a problem locally we had a municipality doing 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.280 that and there couldn't treat the roads at all. So 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.840 with all of this cold weather, all of the chemicals 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.560 going down on the roadways, all the plot blades that 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.119 are touching the forty three thousand miles plus the surfaces, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.800 are we going to have an especially bad pothole season 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.400 coming up? Do you know that? Matt? Can you tell 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.720 us how bad the pothole season will be in just 0:13:58.760 --> 0:13:59.760 a couple short months. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.480 Well, I can tell you. When you get these very 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.679 cold temperatures and you've got a lot of moisture on 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.640 the you know, you know, snow, rain, all that moisture 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.640 and stuff on the roadways, and that seeps down in 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.880 those cracks and it's freezing in all these conditions. We 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.280 get a nice little warm up, all of that's going 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.680 to contract and melt, and I guarantee you're going to 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.520 see a lot of potholes popping when we get a 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.920 little bit of a warm up here. So yes, that's 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.240 something that we're going to obviously need to be watching for. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.520 You know, pothole season for us is typically you know, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.720 February through about April or so. It's a little harder 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.000 to address them because most of the asphalt plants that 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.720 make the black top that we put down, they are 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.280 not open in these colder temperatures, so you have to 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.520 use a temporary patch to make those repairs, and those 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.320 don't exactly last forever either, so it's a constant battle 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.000 to keep up with those. It's kind of like a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.000 game of whack a mole almost literally, but you know, so, yeah, 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.720 I would expect if we see some warmer temperatures, we'll 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.520 get a big round of potholes. It'll be popping up 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.240 all over the state of Ohio and. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.920 That we'll be complaining about that. Who's response for the breakdown? 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.520 When when you see a vehicle on the side of 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.960 the road, it's stranded, stuck whatever, you guys still have 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.960 to plow. Who moves that stuff? Is it like a 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.720 tow contractor you guys just push it all the way 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.160 with a plow? 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.800 Yeah, so a lot of times we'll you know, we 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.240 just wait for a tow truck to come and get 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.200 back that we work with law enforcement to try to 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.960 arrange those you know things. Obviously, law enforcement checks on 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.040 those vehicles just to make sure it's not somebody that's 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.160 in need of assistance. But yes, those would typically get 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.600 towed off the side of the highway and not something 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:39.720 we'd push around with the plow. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.520 I think that would be the next step. I mean, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.240 in a snow emergency. Really, I think that'd be a 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.360 good like for the for the men and women who 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.600 you know, drive the plow is like, well, okay, if 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.520 occasionally once in a while I get to push a 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:51.680 cart of the way, that's pretty cool. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.680 Well, I mean, I won't say it's probably never happened. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.600 I'm sure somewhere in a pinch that's happened. You know. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.040 We we've certainly used plows for emergency situations. I know 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.280 you've probably seen the story today from over the weekend, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.680 our guy Joe Estes who was able to escort that 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:15.680 ambulance Cincinnati Children's Hospital from over in Anderson Township, And 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.160 what a great story that is. So yes, we have 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.120 situations where certainly we get called into special duty. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.000 Yeah, Joe ESEs making. I think that's the best feel 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.960 good story of the bitterly cold and Snowmageddon that we 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.960 just had. As Joe Esta, he's the plowd truck driver 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.720 from Odd who paved the way for an ambulance to 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.520 get from Anderson Township for a sick kid to Cincinnati children. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.200 How does that not warm you up on a cold 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:37.720 day like this? 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.480 And what a humble guy too. I mean, look, he was, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.360 you know, and I think he is a hero. And 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.000 I think a lot of people would agree with me, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.920 but I think all of our pod drivers are heroes. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.920 But Joe has a special spot, you know for just 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.080 jumping right in Justin Kimp, who's our manager there into 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.280 Hamilton County Garage. He's right there with him. I think 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.560 they're both heroes because when Justin got that phone call, 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.680 he didn't as take He went straight to Joe and said, look, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.920 this is the mission we got to go and nobody, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.960 nobody blinked. They all just went and took action and 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.600 got it done. And uh, that's that's just an emblematic 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.879 of the amazing people that we have at the Higre Department. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.560 Of transportation. Uh, they just want to get the job done, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.840 and not just because they care about you know, their 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.800 families who drive on these roads, but they care about 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.040 everybody who's out there. And so yeah, it's a great story. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.399 I'm super proud of everybody involved in that situation, and 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.679 I'm really glad that the uh that the baby's going 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.680 to be able to do well. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.920 Yeah, who made that call? Was it Children's? 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:36.240 Was it? 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:37.520 How did that wind up? 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:37.760 Yes? 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.960 Yes, the way I understand it is, uh, Cincinnati Children's 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.560 their their transport team was trying to figure out how 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.240 they were going to get the ambulance over to the 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.359 hospital in those awful conditions. They made a phone call 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.960 and ended up getting looped into our Hamilton County garage 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.520 and just made the ask. And our folks absolutely were 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.719 right on it, and yep, absolutely when you need us, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.240 where do you need us? Got it arranged. They were 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.240 there in about twenty minutes from when I'm told, and 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.159 met the ambulance and made the escort, picked up the 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.760 child and brought it back to Cincinnati Children's Hospital where 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.440 he's now getting some care. And it's a great story. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:18.680 I mean, you just be able to help out in 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.920 situation like that, you know, had that not happened. Talking 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.520 to the people of Cincinnati children, they certainly think they're 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:26.879 you know, you know, who knows what the outcome they 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.720 have done in that situation. We don't want to think 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.600 about that. We're just glad that it worked out well 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.879 and that we were able to play a role in that. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.720 That's an awesome story too. They saved the life of 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.280 a baby bike applowing the way for the ambulance to 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.480 get him. It's like from some sort of Hallmark movie. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.480 You know, Marty Breneman as a statue of his dead 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.600 ass in front of Great American Ballpark. He's never saved 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.480 a baby's life. Why don't we get something like that 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.240 together for Joe asties. Maybe I don't know, some sort 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.360 of a picture, a sculpture, something, and put it next 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.480 to the salt them. What about the joe Asty salt 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.880 them in Hamlin County. I'll get it named after him. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:58.520 Let's do that. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.120 Yeah, I'm all for it to that. Joe's a great guy. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.000 He's a great guy, and he would be the first 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.000 to tell you we would not want to have a 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.600 salt now named after him. But Danny and I'm gonna. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.360 I'm gonna with that suggestion to some ears. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.000 Will he wants to know if Joe Esty will plow 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.199 the literally five hundred feet from his palatial estate here 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.760 and ken Wood to the front door of the station 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.200 so he can get to work on time. 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:26.720 Today, I will ask, But I don't know. I don't. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.120 I assume Willy doesn't live on a state or US 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.920 RU outside of a municipality. Maybe he does. That's where 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.359 we that's where we could pick him up. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.400 Yeah, but that probably that probably would not dissuade Willy 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.239 from trying to get you to do that. What your 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.720 jurisdiction is now, Matt Bruning, our buddy over at O Doc, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.560 thanks so much for coming on the show this morning. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:47.920 I appreciate. I'm glad you do him well. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:49.640 Back at you, sir. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.560 There you go, my former colleague, the legendary Matt Bruning 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.399 on the show this morning. Hopefull your questions. Answer. We're 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 looking good right now, just cold, Scott Sloan seven hundred 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.639 ww yeah, that's the numbers only with you seven hundred 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.240 WL dominator. Hope you're staying warm now. The real fun 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:12.399 beginnings right two weeks in this two weeks get on 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.200 that Southwest flight with the new seat maps can get 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.119 your butt down to where it's warm, that's for sure. 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.400 So dealing with the snow, our house got about thirteen inches, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.359 maybe a little bit more, I don't know, and we 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.320 just moved to new house. So I'm ind this snowblower 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.040 that I bought, it was a close out snowblowed torope 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.520 back in the day. And I probably had this thing 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:39.000 for fifteen years. And work's great, you know, gas fired 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.520 up snow. But I'm not a big one. I think 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.520 it's I don't even know. Was it twenty four inches 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.600 whatever it might be. I don't know. Size doesn't matter. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.679 It's the user. It's the user, not the snowblower. And 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.760 so obviously I have, you know, trying to keep up 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.639 on the mechanics of the thing. I'm not in admittle, 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.880 not a small engine or big engine guy for that matter. 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:57.639 You know, I deal with like wood and stuff and 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.440 plumbing and electrical, but not not that. But you don't 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:02.639 know if I can figure it out. And so it 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.840 started running rough. I think it was. I hadn't use 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:06.919 it last year. I don't think the year before. It 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.840 was not firing up at all and said, okay, I 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.200 got to figure out what's going on here. And I 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.399 found out it was okay, it needs a new carburetor. 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:14.919 Oh man, how much does that cost? It was like 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.800 twenty bucks online sending the kill carburetor. Like, I can 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.560 figure this out, so you know, take the take all 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.199 the thing apart to get in there. And you know 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.480 it's a obviously it's a small engine. There's like a 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.720 lot more or anything else. Like, I can figure this out. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.320 So I pleased myself. This is a couple months ago 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.399 when the weather was warmer. See I playing ahead. I 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.919 put the new carburetor in, I gas, I fired the thing. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.120 It was working great. So I'm like, you know, lube 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.760 everything up, check, make sure the belt's still good. All 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.800 that all right? That's good. This is good. So I 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.000 fired this thing up. I'm ready to go for the 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.560 big snowstorm. And it worked great for the last snowstorm. 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.760 By the way, did my driveway, did a neighbor's driveway? 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.280 Did a relative driveway? I was a snow blowing fool. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.639 So on Sunday, I get out there, fired this thing up. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.439 It's working great. Get about I don't know, four or 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.840 five passes all of a sudden, the shoot the thing, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:07.639 you know, the thing on top where you turn it 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.960 and it angles the snow away from the snowblower into 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:12.919 a snow banker. If you don't like it, maybe your 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.040 neighbor's driveway or the street or whatever. But you know 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.240 it's got the shoot on top of it. The shoot 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:19.679 just goes up in the air about a foot and 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:25.080 then falls off the screws that hold it in. Apparently 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:26.760 I don't rust it or whatever, but it just it 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.040 was gone, like, oh my god. So now it's a 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:34.080 snowblower and it's got a I don't know the circle 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.720 where the round thing at the top where the snow 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.159 would come out, and then through the shoot where you 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.560 were directed. It's now shooting. I now have a snowblower volcano. 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.240 By the way, this thing is firing snow, and because 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.159 it's so deep it was snow I fired, so it 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:47.800 had to be thirty something feet in the air. It 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.760 was impressive. So instead of going, well it's broken, I 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.719 can't do I figured out how do I use this 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.119 to plow all that snow and angle it so that 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.280 the wind whatever little breeze are espersonally was two when 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.520 it's blowing it away from where I'm working, and I, 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:02.959 after a couple I was able to figure that out. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.560 I was pretty proud of myself. So I will say, 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.240 if you can take yours off, it throws a lot 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.399 more snow. I will say that this thing was throwing 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.959 snow thirty thirty feet in the air. It was crazy 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.040 like treetop level, and I just had to look impressive 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.520 from far away. And it was eating through the snow 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.080 down in the street. In the street, it was up 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:25.399 to the top of the snow blier a little bit 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:26.720 over and it was just chewing through the stuff like 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.040 it was nothing like, this is great. I could do 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.800 the whole world with this thing, except I can't control 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.639 where it's going. So some areas I had to go 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.480 back with a shovel and skim it because a little 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.040 light dub. But hey, you know, I got through it. 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.359 I got through the snow stuff at the end of 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.439 the driveway. I was rather happy about it. And then 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.520 the second time I fired it up, the little primer 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.159 ball if you know other thing you pushed three times 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.200 to get the field to get the juice into the carburetor. 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.840 That thing just disintegrate. So now I'm like, well, not, 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.119 what am I gonna do? How am I going to 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:55.639 prime this? So I had to get it out of 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.720 my hands and knees and blow into the little hole 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.399 where the palmer bolt to get to blow the gas 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.200 into the to the engine of the carboard to get 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.080 it started. So now I've got this snow volcano and 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.639 I'm giving this thing CPR. At some point you go, 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.440 you know what, I've rebuilt this thing enough over fifteen years. 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.080 Probably need to get a new snow thrower. And we 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:16.560 don't use it all that often here and since and 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.320 if it's a couple of inches, I'll shovel it by hand. 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.399 But you know, you get older, it's like, especially out 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.000 of the driveway, it's nice to have. And so I 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.800 was looking at the battery operated snow throwers, and I'm curious, 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.800 if you have one of these things, does it work? 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:29.360 Now? 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.520 I have other battery operated tools obviously on my handheld 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.800 tools for remodeling and construction stuff. Those things weren't great. 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.920 But it's much smaller battery and the life's impressive. I'm 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:40.959 guessing that it's probably the same. I'm just the delivery 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.800 about a and I don't want the one that you 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.800 plug into the wall and carry the quart around. I 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.040 wouldn't do that with a lawnmarer. I'm sure as hell 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.680 not doing that with a snow thrower. It's just it's 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.960 it's a bad look. I do like the sound of 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:58.120 the gas engine firing up like a chainsaw. It's like, man, 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.159 I feel like I'm doing something now, right, where's battery? 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.120 It's just completely quiet. I've seen people. My neighbor has 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.399 a battery powered lawnmarch. Seems to work really well. I 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.399 don't know about a snowthrower though. I'm not sure if 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.280 I'm ready for a battery operatition though, although the research 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.480 I did online so far looking at them, they seem 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.920 to work really well. Now, granted, this snowstorm we just 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:19.639 had is a one off or maybe a side of 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.560 things to common. Wo knows, we had two big snowstorms 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.840 so far this year. We normally don't get that. If 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.120 that's the future, I want to be prepared. My only 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.960 question is how long do those batteries work. I have 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.919 no problem in the battery thing. I'm just worried about, 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.679 you know, the longevity of them. That's all. So I 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.280 don't want to croak in when I'm trying to get 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:36.760 to the end of the driveway. You don't start at 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.359 the end of the driveway. That's the last thing you do. 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.520 I need it to last the whole damn driveway, you 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.119 know what I'm saying. Plus I like the idea of 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.840 quite honestly, just pushing a button. Everything starts right up. 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.760 It's just a you know, it's an electric motor as 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.000 opposed to an engine, and engines take maintenance to take work. 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.159 As I just pointed that out. So I do know 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.919 DM me or something. Email me if you will let 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:57.639 me know if you got one, if the thing works 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.360 as can be expected. Otherwise I've gone back to gas 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.879 fired one. The good old days. Yeah, the good old days. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.359 I will say this. My wife's on those you know, 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.080 the neighbor of the Facebook neighborhood groups in your neighborhood, 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.360 you probably have one, and I normally don't read those 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.240 because it's just it's kind of like we have a 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.040 ring doorbell, and if you read some of the ring 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.000 doorbell comments, there's a coyote in our yard. Does anyone 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.080 know what this is? It's a person walking like we 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.400 live in the age of paranoia right now. Someone give 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.360 it an order or knocked. Who do you think this is? 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.520 I think it's a kid selling something. I'm pretty sure. 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.160 I don't know. It could be a Jehovah's witness, short 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.640 sert sleeve, white white dress shirt, short sleeves. The only 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.240 people I see wear white shirts with short sleeves, white 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.040 dress shirts. Was saying, our Jehoah's witnesses. It's the official uniform. 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.080 Like no one else in business wears one of those. 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.520 You see someone a man walking with a black tie 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.480 and a short sleeve dress shirt. Jehovah's witness, Jada right there, 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.840 that's your guy, that's the pro, that's the man officer, 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.560 the official uniform. Like, I'm pretty sure that's who it was. 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.520 It was a coyote dressed as a Jehovah's witness. I 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.000 don't know what to tell you, Like, quit freaking out. 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.600 Somebody walked across my Yeah, it happens. You're living in 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.800 a neighborhood. Imagine before when you didn't have a camera, 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.840 stuff happened all the time. You had no idea. Ignorance 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:10.720 is bliss. Maybe that's just me, but it's is we 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.880 look at this. I've done the conversation, the ring doorbells 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:19.560 and electric snow throwers lovely. In the Facebook chat group, 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.560 people are actually complaining that the plows left snow at 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.439 the foot of the driveway, and someone wanted to know 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.520 who they would call to have that remove Do I call? 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.600 Do you call the city? The township? Where I like 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.199 people are actually and I think it was a I 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.240 saw something else because we're down a rabbit hole with this. 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.359 As someone that called nine one one demanding that something 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:43.639 he'd done about the snow at the end of the day. 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:44.840 The plow left all the snow at the end of 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.800 my driveway. I've got to get the work called nine 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.880 one one, like, what do you want to do? Come 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.560 shoot it. I'm gonna taste the snow. What do we 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:51.879 do with it? 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:53.000 Now? 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.920 It's up to you. And maybe it's just kind of 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.160 the world we live. And I also, again I say 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.680 this every time. I grew up in snow country, so 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.399 kind of used to it. But yeah, when we get 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:01.960 a foot or more snow, that's a lot of snow 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.560 at the end of your driveway. The plow does not 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.400 control the snow at the end of that's on you. 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:07.800 They don't come and then go, oh, well, we left 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.359 snow at the end of your driveway and then they 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.280 would never get the snow cleared. If that were the case, 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.560 you are responsible for the snow at there in a driveway. 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.040 I had to break this sad news to my daughter recently, said, well, Dad, 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.520 could you come over the snowblower. Yeah, it's up snow 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.000 volcano and I'm not bringing it over there, and I'm 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.320 not blowing into it to do your You're young, you 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.600 can shovel, so she said, well, I might have to, 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.640 I might miss work because my snow. I'm like, just 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.240 go shovel the snow. I don't have a shovel. There's 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.400 plenty of shovels in my workshop behind your house. Could 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.200 just go grab one of those. Looking for me to 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.400 come over and do the work. I ain't doing it. Hey, 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.120 real quick on the electric snowblower thing ad in western hills. 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.240 What do you got? 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:51.120 Yeah? For what is worthless? Snow? Driveway about maybe seventy 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:55.200 five feet long? Okay, dummy, me didn't get out the well, 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.520 didn't notice you watching things of the evening, didn't see 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.840 any snow. I'm down. Well, next thing you know, wake 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:09.240 up next morning. You got ten inches, so only forty 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.960 Bold systems. You look at it looks like a toy, 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.840 but you got half of it, you. 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.840 Know, so if you get one and you have that 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.240 big a driveway, you should probably buy extra batteries. 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:19.440 Then. 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:24.720 Yeah, seventy five feet long, all right, maybe ten wide 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.920 with ten inches snowing and handled half of it. 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.720 That's pretty good. I mean, you know, that's a lot 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.600 of Normally we get you know, two four inches, no 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.760 big deal, but eight inches eight to ten inches of 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.480 snow and it's seventy five or seventy five. 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.640 That pretty good trick. Another trick, only take half a 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.800 cut at the time, Okay, so you don't get all 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.120 on it'll stall it out. 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.440 Oh really okay, it's also good enough. So it sounds 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.600 like you're steering me towards just sticking with my gull 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:51.360 old gas one. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:58.320 Then well, gas is you know, as long as your 0:29:58.320 --> 0:29:59.920 fuel stable and fires up. 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.920 Yeah, that's sure. I've never had a PRIM put the 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.920 stabilizer in. But hey, thanks for the call, man, I 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.600 appreciate it. Yeah. But again, you know, when you're always 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.040 working on the thing, it's like every you got to, 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.360 you know, clean it out. It seems like with the 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.480 electric one you just put the battery right, put the 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:14.080 I M I think I go in. I want to 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.960 say I'm not gonna buy it anytime soon. I'm getting through, 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.560 to believe me. With you know, blowing into the hole. 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:23.000 Wait what that's a cut blowing into the primer ball 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.160 that's missing. I can get a new primary ball. But 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.080 at this point, it's throwing snow at the top of 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.840 it's a it's a volcano mission snow volcano. And I 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.600 got to give a CPR every time I started. That's 0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.880 my life. That's what I'm doing because I'm dumb that way. 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.200 I'm dumb that way. News at about ten here on 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.400 seven hundred W LW coming up at ten oh seven. 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.960 He is local civil rights attorney Rob Lindeman. And I 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.239 don't know about you after yesterday's discussion, and we'll get 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.280 into this later ten thirty five me and you about 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.080 what we're seeing in Minnesota, and I have seen in 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.240 Minnesota so far. It feels like maybe a tipping point 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.840 has happened when it comes to public protests and the government. 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.520 And I bring this up because I'm just gonnask a 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.800 bunch of questions about civil rights, Like Okay, he's in 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.920 the only time. That's yesterday with my guest, and if 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.600 you miss that, it was interesting conversation because she's very 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.440 pro policing and basically said that the Ice did nothing 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.080 wrong here, which I vehemently disagree with as someone who 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.400 supports wholeheartedly law enforcement the military. And I don't have 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.680 to give him my CV on that. If you listen 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.440 to the show, I backed cops. But again, you got 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.800 to do it with a reason. You just can't say, well, 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.040 they can do whatever they want, because if you do that, well, 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.960 that's what happens in Minnesota. I disagree that said, I 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.560 think things are starting to change here because the news 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.760 today investigators are now reviewing the body worn camera video 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.560 from the officer perspective for the fatal shooting of Alex Pretty. 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.440 They had multiple angles, multiple officers, and of course the 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.800 citizen video too. Will they'll seem that together come up 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.280 with a timeline and what went down. I think it's 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.840 important too, because I think you will also get an 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.320 idea what happened prior to the people on the streets recording. 0:31:58.360 --> 0:31:59.960 It seems like everyone's recording all the time out there, 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.840 but you get differspective and I think, uh context more context, 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.040 which is very much needed in this situation and situations 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.480 like it. I think you'll agree. So yesterday said I, 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.520 from what I saw, I'm totally against what happened with 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.360 the shooting and PRESTI are pretty rather that said, I'm 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.360 open to seeing new information that may exonerate the officers. 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.200 I would say, if they had an information at a 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.840 body camp as quick as Christy Gnome was out there 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.520 to say that, you know, this is a domestic terrorist 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.320 who's going to shoot cops, and clearly that wasn't the 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.040 case that and also they had images of the gun 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.240 that they took off the guy. Uh, I would I 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.720 would say if this exonerated them in any way, shape or form, 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.480 they would have already at leastaid video because they have 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.960 already you know, we're gonna do an investigation. Why you 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.760 already can't you already told us what the what the 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.920 outcome is. It's like Terry Thigi all over again. Right, Yeah, 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.680 we we've we uh we fired her. 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:51.120 Uh. 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.920 But now we're a new investigation to find out why 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.880 it sounds like the same thing in Minnesota and so yeah, 0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.760 different angles and things. I'd like to see that, but 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.960 we'll see. They're going to analyze it and break it 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.440 down and all that and review everything. But the fact 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.360 of the matter is okay, so we got body camera. 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.080 I'm waiting for that to come out at this point. 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:10.640 But I think what's interesting, and this is a tipping point, 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.840 as I mentioned, is you have a couple dozen Republican 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:18.040 lawmakers now that are calling for investigations congressional testimony after 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.760 this shooting. And I think early March they're going to 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.920 bring Christy Noome in for a grilling on the Hill. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:26.840 It's not a majority of lilt of John Thune is 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.640 preparing for a fight, and this has to do with appropriation, 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.120 spill and everything else as well, but a number of 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.280 Republicans are stepping up, going, yeah, what we saw is egregious. 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.600 We're going to investigate this, and that's what Congress needs 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.360 to do. There needs to be oversight in this whole thing. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.479 We haven't seen that for the first year of Trump 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.920 because Congress has really not done anything, very little other 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.160 than shut things down. So on March third, there's going 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.840 to be a Judiciary committee, and that is I believe 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.920 Chuck Grassley of Iowa is a guy who chairs that, 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.280 and he is a Republican and so maybe we'll get 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.480 some answers to this. But it feels like, especially too 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.040 with Walls in Trump having a conversation, according to what 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.760 he posted on truth Social that we had a good conversation. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.200 We said and he agreed that they're going to pull down, 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.480 and we're going to pull out the guy who's heading 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:11.960 this thing up, and we're going to bring in our 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.200 borders are and in addition to that, we're going to 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.400 start pulling back some ICE agents from Minnesota. So it 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.439 sounds like Trump does not want to raise the temperature further, 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.120 which is unusual because normally he's like, Okay, I'm going 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.680 to double down on this. Whether you think he's right 0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:27.880 or not, He's going to do what he wants. And 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.880 this seems to be like, maybe we went too for 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.480 maybe she went too far with this thing. Interesting. Interesting 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.080 and also showing that I guess the folks up there 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.919 are trying to maybe bring the temperatures down a notch. 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.839 The Minnesota National Guard is out there and they were 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.319 tasked and handed out coffee and donuts to anti ice 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.759 protesters in Saint Paul to show them it was a 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.680 demonstration of safety and security. So the guardsmen. By the way, 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:59.239 we're reflective vests. Why well, because they wanted to make sure, Hey, 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.239 you know, we're not Ice agents or we're not with 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:05.319 these guys. I think that that's a lot going. Hey, 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.440 we're gonna okay, we're National guardsman. It's a dangerous situation. 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.279 How about we hand we can't have a bottle of 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.239 water because it'd be frozen, but we're gonna have on 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.880 hot coffee and donuts to the protesters. And we're also 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.920 wearing different clothing than the ICE agents are, just to 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.520 let you know we're we're not with them. We're the 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.319 good guys, but we're a good or good guy if 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.640 you will interesting times in which we live. We'll talk 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.279 civil rights with Rob Leman, the civil rights attorney, and 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.040 how this supplies. I mean, you know, I don't plan 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.520 on protesting anything anytime soon. I reserve my right to 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.759 do that. But what we saw in what we think 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.319 the laws are maybe different than what are what the 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.399 constitution says what we're allowed to do. Anyway, a lot 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.640 of questions for not only just what pretty did, but 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.480 also ICE agents as well. Will make sense of it. 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.359 Next after a quick time out in news, traffic, weather, 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.880 all that seconds away on the mother red seven hundred 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:58.920 WW Cincinnati, We've gotta flown back on seven hundred w W. 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.040 Of course, outside of these folding snow and now just 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.080 the cold, the biggest story captivating us would be what's 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.319 happening in Minnesota. So Trump and Waltz Governor Walls are 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.400 now working together to solve the chaos up there. The 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:14.240 President is sending borders our Tom homan In and recalling 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.000 Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, saying it also looks like 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.279 they're going to pull a bunch of ice agents out 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.600 of the state as well. It feels like a tipping 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.759 point in this whole thing. And at the same time, 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.400 I think it's tipping point because a couple dozen congressional 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.920 Republicans have now called for investigations into the fatal shooting 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.000 with Alex Pretty Dick Durbin. Senator Dick Durbin announced that 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.439 Christine Omil appear before the Senate Judiciary coming up in March. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.399 Third answer tough questions. Pre you got protesters confronting ice, 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.880 ice kicking indoors. The question is in these things, not 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.600 that you're going to be on the streets protesting stuff, 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.440 but where do your rights in Where does law enforcements 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.719 rights begin? These two vent diagrams have overlapped for some time, 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:56.120 but we're seeing a lot of what are perceived constitutional violations. 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.239 But then again, how far can law enforcement go? And acting? 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.640 The homeland on that is Rob Linman, and Rob is 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.279 a civil rights attorney. I just had him on the 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.359 show not long ago. He rerepped the family of Qwen 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:07.600 Davier Hicks, who talked about that. 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:07.879 Rob. 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:08.880 Welcome back, Good to have you. 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.319 Good morning, Scott. Thanks, I'm happy to join you again. 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.320 Yeah, let's just jump in because you see this. We 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:16.360 have spent a lot of time and we'll spend a 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.600 lot of time talking about what we all saw versus 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.200 what we're told by the government. I know what I saw. 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.520 They're trying to tell me something different, Christy. No, let's 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.880 just jump in because I think they're significant first, second 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.560 and obviously fourteenth Amendment issues here, but the for relata 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:34.040 to the first Amendment, the idea about recording government agents. 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.200 We debated this a lot yesterday. So Alex Pretty is 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:40.600 holding his phone recording federal officers. The confetation begins. He's 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.480 got his phone up, he's got his hand up, like, Hey, 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.640 I'm not being dangerous here, I'm just recording you. Now, 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.759 granted he's in the street, they're conducting an operation. What 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:50.960 is your right in that situation? We know you have 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.840 a right to record law enforcement, but where does that 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.600 right end relative to their safety and securing a seat. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.480 Well, I'll start by saying that I'm not licensed to 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.520 practice law in Minnesota, so I can approach this only 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.200 based on my experience attorneys. 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:08.960 Here in Cincinnati. 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.040 But I will say that the Cincinnati Police Department has 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.520 a has a policy that they are trained on and 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.840 that it governs their activities, which specifically say states that 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.319 the department acknowledges that there is a First Amendment right 0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.640 to to record their activities when they are in public. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.760 You know, the the right to record is considered protected 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.719 by the First Amendment as a you know, fundamentally, it's 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.520 you know, the court is set over and over that 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.000 really the media doesn't have any special rights that any 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.799 citizen doesn't have. So if you're in public, you can 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.120 be recorded, and the police are are subject to that 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.800 same to that same protection. Now, where the line is, 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:53.719 I think, is where the where a person where a 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:58.320 person's activities somehow interfere with with law enforcement and some 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.520 you know, and this case they were carrying out supposedly. 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.279 I understand that the reason that that ice was there 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.279 in the first place was that they were carry on 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.440 and or they were looking for somebody specific, or they 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.360 were trying to erect. So some departments have tried to 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.320 establish physical guidelines. Is that line. Do you have to 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.160 be ten feet away? Do you have to be twenty 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.759 feet away? Do you have to be twenty five? If 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.880 you know, that's difficult the courts. Courts have struggled to 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.840 come down with the right answer, a specific answer to 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.040 what's the right distance. But so long as a person 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:36.720 is not physically interfering with an officer carrying out whatever 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.480 they're doing, then that that right to that right to 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.520 record is considered protected under the First Amendment. 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.680 Based on what you saw, was mister pretty and violation 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.320 of that too. I mean, you are on the street 0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.719 or conducting operation. Technically you're not allowed to be out 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.120 on the street. But in a court, how would that apply? 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.000 Who's right who's wrong? 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:55.160 There? 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.960 How far does that go? And were they in the 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.600 right to push him back and out of the way. 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:05.120 Yeah, it surely would have been I mean, if if 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.800 if I'd been asked to analyze the state by the 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.640 by his family, I think surely take the position that 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.879 nothing he was doing was interfering with the with law 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.759 enforcements duty that it appears, it appears to me that 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.440 the arrest is taking place somewhere down somewhere down the 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.959 road from where he's sitting, so his I wondered about 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.600 that several times when I when I've watched this, this 0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.160 this interaction of the videos of it, is, what is 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:34.880 that officer doing who comes back and engages with not 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.799 just mister pretty, but there's another woman there, maybe two 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.520 maybe two people who are there and they are behind 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.200 a car there there. You know, he eventually gets them, 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.279 pushes them, and he pushes the one woman down onto 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.120 the ground. So I you know, it's this I will 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.680 tell you as a civil rights lawyer, if this interaction 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.759 had ended there, nobody had been shot, and they had 0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:00.680 just been pushed and sprayed with pepper spray there, we 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.200 would have considered that a very questionable use of course, 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:07.120 because it's not clear what he's He's not attempting to 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.480 arrest them, Apparently they're not resisting in arrest, and they 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.759 are far enough away from the encounter that they can't 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.919 be said to be interfering with with with that arrest. 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.120 So I would have been deeply concerned just then with 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.960 with the with the fact that he chooses to use 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:23.960 Papa spray on them. 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.200 Yeah, now there's a mitigating cubumstance. Of course, that's the 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.600 body camera video, which have started earlier than the citizen 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.120 video that you talked about, Rob Lindeman, And I think 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.640 that's got to be putt in the context as well. 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.040 What happened leading up to that, Had there been a 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.880 group of people around them, did they feel like I'm 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.560 being threatened? So again we're still waiting for that. There's 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.120 gotta be some context there, correct. 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.320 I would I would agree, Yeah, sure, I'd love to 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.600 I'd love to know that are is that video out? 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:49.239 I have to see. 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.040 No, I know that body camp but they even released it. 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.759 But that tells me that like if it, if it 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.200 exonerated the officers, they would have already released it, kind 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.000 of like you know, well they took the gun off them, 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.879 but we don't know if he a second gun. Yeah, 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.480 we do, because they would have said he had a 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:03.440 second gun and shown that. 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.840 Yeah. Sure, and you know that's another that's that's another 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.040 thing here that is always that that feels to me 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.520 like a real miss step by the by the management, 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.200 by the leadership at ice, which is that they've they've 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.600 they've taken a bunch of positions, they've made a bunch 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:25.800 of representations and provided descriptions about what what they think happened. 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.680 It feels like they've told us what conclusion they're going 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.520 to come to before they have completed an investigation. And again, 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.120 this is something that you know, most police departments have 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.239 policies on this stuff. The Cincinnati Police Department has a 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.600 specific provision in its in its Policy and Procedure Manual 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.960 that says, in an officer involved shooting, no member of 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.399 the investigation and no management is permitted to come out 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.200 and give an opinion on what has happened before the 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:55.880 before the people tasked with it are able to carry 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.680 out and complete the investigation. I mean it just you know, 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.239 there's an intuitive common sense to it. Don't show me 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.840 what conclusion you're going to reach before you right. 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.200 Right, And as I put out yesterday, it's like, if 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.839 that happens a local jurisdiction normally go, hey, we can't 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.719 investigate it. We are going to give it to Buera 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.560 Criminal Investigation and ah BCI takes it over in Ohio 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.160 and they investigate and say, okay, well there's almost a 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.640 propriety there here. It's like, well, we're going to investigate it. 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.800 After Christy Domes said that this was a domestic terrorist. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.960 So they're fighting for their lives. It sounds like you 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:34.000 already ruled, made a ruling before you investigated. So we're 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.360 back to that again, kind of like the Teresa Thiji 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.399 firing here in Cincinnati. Rob let me pivt. By the way, 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.520 Rob Lindman on the show, he civil rights attorney, were 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.320 talking about what the right, what citizen's rights are, particularly 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.200 what's going on in Minnesota right there. Let me pivot 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.040 to the Second Amendment here. So Preddy was a lawful 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.040 gun owner. He had a valid valid that carry permit Minnesota, 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.279 had two magazines on him and the gun, and yet 0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.880 was shot by federal agents who claimed he resisted attempts 0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:03.120 to disarm him, despite the video showing you never brandished 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.560 or reacher his weapon. What Second Amendment protections exist for 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.360 lawful gun carriers when they encounter that. 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:17.319 I think he was the Minnesota has a statutory has 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.560 a statutory scheme. You do have to have a permit. 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.719 It's not an open or what we call a constitutional 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.080 carry state like Ohio, but it is. It has a 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:30.640 very simple permitting scheme, and it permits if you if 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:32.520 you have a permit. There's no reason why you can't 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.280 carry a weapon, a concealed weapon, And there's no specific 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:41.440 application to attending a protest that the statements that have 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.520 come out which have attempted to link at put some 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:49.399 limitation on on on the right to carry arms out 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.879 of protest or I don't know the legal basis one, 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.600 but let's put it that way. The Second Amendment applies, 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.320 and in many over the years, lots of protesters have 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:04.160 made a point to carry weapons openly at protests. Yes, yeah, 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.839 and and and that there's never been much of us 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.720 much much of an argument that that right doesn't apply. 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.839 There's no, there's no I'm not aware of any law 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:17.040 that attempts to restrict it. And in Minnesota is really 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.680 really not any different. I mean there that is even 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.000 a that that is a somewhat tightly regulated state, certainly 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.080 compared to Ohio, and that regulation doesn't exist. So it 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:30.880 strikes me this is another issue where the the leadership 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.880 at ice and seems to have gotten out over their 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.759 skis a little bit here. I mean, you have you 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.919 have people like I mean the cash catel Is specifically 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.080 said that car that people don't have the right to 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:47.520 carry weapons to a protest. There's a there's a US attorney, 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.000 an assistant US attorney out of California who made a 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.400 similar statement. And it strikes me that they are sending 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.000 themselves up on a bought position that is just not 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.520 legally supported, especially with this. 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.120 It doesn't know what the law is, doesn't know what 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.239 the constitution says. And you know, I'd agree with you 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.560 on this. And rub leniment is that no, We've seen 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.399 how we had the protest after the Clan thing over 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.920 seventy five in Lincoln Heights and protesters are out there 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.680 counter protesters, I guess as well as clients. They had 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.800 weapons on them and around law enforcement. That was fine. 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.359 We had the Black Lives Matter protests. People were doing 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.680 that at the Capitol and they were armed when they 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.960 were protesting, and you know, law enforcement didn't flinch because 0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:30.759 you're allowed to carry it under what CONSTI authority can 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.480 the agents take a gun off of citizen who's lawfully 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.879 and legally carrying it to permit, not brandishing the weapon, 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.600 not threatening anyone with the weapon. We saw that in 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:42.239 this video. Isn't that then a state of a de 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.040 facto of prohibition on the Second Amendment? 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:52.200 Typically what you find was a police officer who has 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.120 just conducting an otherwise reasonable stop has the right to 0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:01.239 ensure that everybody's safe. But the really, frankly, it's a 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.840 this is an area of tension. The right to demonstrate 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.120 versus the right of a police officer to be safe 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.279 are sometimes thought to be in conflict. In fact, you 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:18.960 see the police department and civil libertarians are often at 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.120 odds on the issues of gun control, right even even 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.440 very you know, we consider police police population. You know, 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.719 police officers themselves to typically be pretty conservative, but they 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.160 are the ones often are not don't have views that 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.360 are less conservative on the issue of gun control because 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.879 of the issue of police safety. But I think you're 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:44.160 right that there is not a police officer Lincoln and arrest. 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:48.440 There's very little questions that if if there's grounds for 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.719 an arrest in the first place, that person can be 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.440 can be disarmed into into that arrest or even you, 0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.839 or even one. I think the position that they would 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.479 take here, that that ICE would take is that during 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:05.520 the core of what might be a brief investigatory stop, 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.000 the first question the officer is always going to ask you. 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:09.600 Is are you know? 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.120 Are you carrying any weapons? Are you do you carry 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:17.200 any contraband? But that always requires a basic ground, the 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:21.480 basic reason why the officers conducting the investigatory stop in 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.200 the first place, and back to the year, back to 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.400 where you started here. The fact that somebody assuming you 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:31.239 is not grounds for it does not provide reasonable articulable 0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.120 grounds for a police officer to stop up site them 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.400 to make a to do something in the first. 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.239 Place, because you're exercising a fundamental constitial right and that's 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.480 one and two. At the same time, you're filming and 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:48.279 exercise your Second Amendment right to carry. It's interesting we 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.520 got some feedback on this. Yes're a pushback anyway from 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.360 people who think that the ICE was responsible and it 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:54.800 was the fall of pretty in this thing, which I 0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.239 disagree with. After you watch these videos, and again we 0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.399 will see what the bodycam video shows if and when 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.120 they release that. But I thought it interesting that that 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:03.920 so you're saying, is that, well, pretty had a gun 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.880 on him, you should tell law enforcement you have a 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.960 gune on you for their own safety and security. Yet 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.600 I wonder how many the same people who believe that 0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:13.239 in the Predy case were vehemently supporting Ohio when we 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.440 ruled that out when it came to the Second Amendment 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.279 here in Ohio and saying no, you don't have to 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.160 tell a police officer if you're pulled over, if you 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:22.640 have a weapon on you, you can't argue forward and 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.520 against it when it can when it's convenient for you. 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:31.960 I think i'd agree. Look, there's this is there are 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.080 strange the sides are not clear here, It's not clear 0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.120 who would be on which side at the end of this. 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.480 I mean, look, we go back to we go back 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:46.840 to Kyle Rittenhouse and back in the being on the 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.200 black and the Black Lives Matter Protestant people that that 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.759 drew a lot of the same that raised a bunch 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.880 of the same issues. I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse was I 0:49:56.000 --> 0:50:00.160 think that he was underaged. He was He'd trust eight 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.920 lines with a with a with a weapon, so one 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.520 could argue that he didn't have a lawful A lot 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:07.600 he wasn't allowed in the first place, but he was. 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.799 It was. It was it was violating interstate carry loss 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.160 for a mind or by showing up with a gun. 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.040 But that that prohibition doesn't just doesn't enter here. This 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.160 isn't This is an adult on the streets. And by 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.279 the way, you know this is an area. I'm not 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.200 really a gun I don't have a great field of 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.320 expertise and the handling of guns. But what I've what 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.960 I've read is, you know, to carry an extra magazine 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:35.880 or two even is standard can feel chara tactics, you know. 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.200 And I would know that the most police officers, the 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.279 cinematic police officers, when they leaves every day, they carry 0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.160 a hand gun and they carry a couple extra magazines. 0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.040 So the fact that he's carrying extra magazine says no 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.560 particularly raise concerns for me about about his motives or 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:50.520 now you have. 0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:52.680 To ask him. But he's dead, So why are you 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.759 carrying two magazine? And I don't know why that people 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.239 would be upset with that, don't you know? I often 0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:59.080 don't if I care, I'm not carrying an extra mag 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.799 But no idea. He was afraid of the things getting 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.160 out of control and with rioting and wanted to get 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:05.960 out of the protest and record, but want to get 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.960 out of there with his life. You don't blame the guy. Also, 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:10.920 I you know, we mentioned the first second Amendment, but 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:12.880 the fourteenth Amendment applies here, which as has to do 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:17.680 with equal protection and due process when an agent kills 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.480 the citizens we saw with Pratty and Minnesota, and then 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.960 right away they characterize him as a domestic terrorist who 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.320 is planning to inflict maximum damage and provide no evidence 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:32.759 despite what we saw or even independent investigation. Did Christinome 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.880 kind of put her toe into a due process violation 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.040 in that regard to because like you said, you know, 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.120 she made her mind up before any evidence came out. Uh, 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:42.960 And it seems like it's flying the frase of what 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.480 we what what the facts might be in this particular case. 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:46.760 Is that a do process violation? 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.799 Seems like well, I think I think it's simpler than 0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.279 that probably. I mean, the basics of you know, the 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:58.400 state of Minnesota has original jurisdiction over any criminal conduct 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.200 that happens in It's within its borders, right, and so 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.160 they're the state of Minnesota, a prosecutor in Minnesota in 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:09.920 that in Minneapolis will have jurisdiction to bring whatever criminal 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.320 prosecution might apply here if the determination is made that 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:17.000 this was an unlawful an unlawful killing of whatever of 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:22.160 whatever respect. There's the Minnesota there is no statute of 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.439 limitation for a for a wrongful killing in the state 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.640 of Minnesota, so that the I'm sure the prosecutors in 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.800 Minnesota are looking hard at this, and that's one of 0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.200 the reasons why they would have wanted to participate in 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.239 in the investigation here. 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.319 It's very it really not uh. 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.480 Well, the federal the federal government of course has its 0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.239 own right to investigate this more as soon. But usually 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.640 you don't think of the of the federal government enforcing 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.879 things like murder. That's that that is typically unless it's 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.520 unless it's tied up in some kind of federal federal crime, 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.239 which is which is typically an interstate crime that is 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:04.759 crossing line that the government official responsible for imposing that 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.160 law is the state. So that's that's where you would 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:09.120 expect that to lie. Here. 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:12.440 This rob feels like a tipping point to me in 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.640 that Trump is talking to Waltz and they agreed on 0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.839 some things. They're going to take some ICE agents out there, 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:19.839 they're pulling the border. Bring the borders are in, get 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:22.440 rid of the other guys getting out of there. You 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:26.359 have Republican lawmakers by the dozens now defending pretty uh. 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:28.520 And so I look at this going is this is 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.440 this finally the turning point? Here we go? Okay with? 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.920 This is a line too far? And if so, it's 0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.759 a long time coming. So I don't know what all 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.399 this means and what this means in the coming weeks. 0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:38.840 I don't know if this story goes away or not. 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.680 I'm gonna guess not unless something else happened. But it 0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:46.440 feels like, okay with this isn't a tipping point, you. 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.759 Know, we can have we can only hope. So this 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.920 is really posed. This this, this debate over over an 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:58.640 immigration enforcement has posed a series of uh of conflict. 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.760 They really haven't been explored deeply, you know. So maybe 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.480 back to the Civil War, back to literally the you know, 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:10.600 the state, the state actors seeing the law one way 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.320 and seeing their rights to within their own jurisdiction is 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.080 one way, whereas where the where the federal authorities are 0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:20.719 coming in and attempting to do something different. The whole 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:24.440 the entire question about who's what what limits there are 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:29.560 on federal power on uh, really our posts sharply here, 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.279 So I think you're right, I will be. I'm it's 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.000 really a shame that that it came to this, that 0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.400 that it is this event that has brought those that 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.399 has brought the party that that has maybe brought people 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.840 together here to look at what is what is the 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.640 what is the right compromise? Was the right balance there? 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.920 But I feel the same way you do that hopefully 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:52.759 things have turned here. 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.799 Rob Lineman is a promised civil rights attorney here in Cincinnati. 0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:58.880 Thanks so much for laying it out for us and 0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:02.360 where your rights begin and end, although that's always in 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.480 flux in this great country. Guars, Rob, all the best. 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.320 Thanks are jumping on smart Go. 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:07.160 Thank you very much. 0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.600 Take care. We'll do news update one return and we'll 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:11.200 talk this one out just me and you. This morning. 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.880 You heard all this stuff going uh as I was 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.480 maybe more evidence, but I think the lack of new 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.640 evidence coming out is pretty telling myself. We'll talk about 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.600 that coming up. And also in the context of something 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.400 that is something we saw that usher Trump in office 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:30.560 the last two terms is missing and it's a flag. 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:32.040 Do you know a flag? I'm talking about, and I 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:33.560 think it applies here. We'll get into that right after 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:42.360 news here seven hundred WW. There we go, there we go, 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.799 there we go. We got something, we got something working. 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.600 So cold the microphone stuff work, it's crazy. Hey, sloany here, 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:49.600 this is seven hundred wl W. Thanks so much for 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:51.920 checking on my show. I appreciate you. And if you 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.160 miss part, portions of it or some else you want here, 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:56.480 don't forget. We podcast right afterwards. That'll be up in 0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.360 all full three hours. Of course. We go where you go, 0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.920 bring the earbuds with you, man, woman, and if you're 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:04.960 in something in the vehicle you're driving, you take us 0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.920 with you. It's all good. Just switch over to the stream. 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.759 That's how we roll here, That's how we roll. I 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:12.120 was just talking to a Robert linemann Esquire. He's a 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:16.320 civil rights attorney in town. And what prosecutors Aaron prosecute, 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.440 what protesters and the ice slash police are led to 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.680 do and can't do. I think it's a good check 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.799 up on our civil rights or constitutional amendments, and specifically 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.160 the Bill rights. On top of my hat, I thought 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:31.839 of one, two, and fourteen would be the big ones here. 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:34.920 And you know, I was thinking of this driving in 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.600 this morning because we had great conversations yesterday morning about 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:41.040 this is I'm just curious for and I was just, 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:43.160 you know, safe to say. I think most people who 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.920 will listening to the show or listening to radio station 0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.640 probably voted or support Trump and Republicans right, And I 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:53.360 like to play not both sides against the middle. But 0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:57.480 I my personal view political view is I'm more libertarian, 0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:59.640 and I don't fully identify as libertarian because there's some 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.360 issues I have. I am an enigma. I guess in 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.279 my own sense, and I know what I see and 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:05.480 I know what I like, and I know I care 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:07.440 for and I want less government in my life because 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.400 I've seen it both ways. And you know, the government 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:12.680 gets involved in something, it just makes things worse. And 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:15.759 I know that's kind of old school, you know, old 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.560 neo con kind of stuff, but there's I think there's 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.000 truth to that and we're seeing it. And I asked 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:21.800 this question of you, if you're a huge MAGA or 0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:25.320 Trump supporter, and I'm just curious, and this isn't just 0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:31.200 Minnesota's everything else, would you be defending these policies if 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:36.480 Kamala Harris won the election. You going, well, this is different. 0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.080 They wouldn't be slowan, you're so stupid. They wouldn't be 0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.800 out there doing this, they'd be supporting ice protest. No, no, no, 0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:46.120 no no. The concern prior to this last election was, 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:48.560 and we hear it every time that you know, democratic 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.320 candidate comes along kind of like you hear from liberal 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.960 liberal progressives about how, oh my god, you know so 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.560 and so fill in the blank, Republican equals Nazi, and 0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:00.680 it's simply not true. The other side, you hear from conservatives, 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.680 conservative Republicans says, well, this present of this candidate Kamala Harris, 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.560 Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, they're building a police state and 0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.439 ultimately what's going to happen is they're going to wage 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:13.600 war against Christian conservatives. They're going to go after gun owners. 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.400 They're taking our guns away. Of course that's not true. 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.120 I mean, yeah that liberals tend to want to push 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.360 more gun legislations the fact, but no one's rounding the 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:24.760 I remember when you know, Bamba was Toad, there was 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.840 the rumor spreading about, you know, there was a bullet 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.520 shortage because of this stuff, and you know he didn't 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:35.200 he didn't ban bullets. I prefer a conservative in office 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.720 when it comes to my Second Amendment rights, that's for sure. 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:40.720 But I look at this thing and go, okay, well, 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.800 if Kamala Harris, what would be different? So you know, 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:45.240 they would she be going at when we see protests 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:48.240 in the streets because she's going after Christian conservatives and 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.120 gun owners. And if you were taking up arms against 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.360 the government against tyranny. Isn't this what we're seeing right now? 0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:56.680 Or at least that's the perception of the people in Minnesota. 0:58:58.360 --> 0:58:59.720 I guess the best way to look at it is 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:04.160 prior to the twenty twenty election, and prior to this election. 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:06.640 You know, we saw a lot of it. I don't 0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.520 see much of them anymore. And if you had one, 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.640 I'm come curious to know where is it. And I'm 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:17.000 talking about the Gadsden flag that don't tread on me flag. 0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:20.880 You saw a lot of that at the rallies and 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:22.880 you know Trump's speaking and don't tread on me and 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.320 the shirts I saw bumper stickat. I don't see many 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.920 tread on don't tread on me flags anymore. I know, 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:29.600 because it's cold, maybe you put them away. I'm not 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:33.400 quite sure, but here's the problem. You're right, and I'm 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.440 trying to be consistent if you believe that in the 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:37.320 whole idea of the Gadsden flag and don't treat on 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.800 me is hey, listen, civil liberties. You know what I 0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:44.000 want a limited government, And of course under Biden we 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.600 saw an expanded government. But under Trump we've also seen 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:51.880 an expanded government. You know, top of my hat, I 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:54.040 can go, well, it's not just the Minnesota thing, but 0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:59.120 you know, the idea that you can force Intel to 0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:05.600 sell shares the government government controlled companies is literally the 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:09.440 definition of socialism. Is it different that Trump's doing it 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:14.640 instead of Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, because we shouldn't 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:16.160 be looking at it going, oh, that's a great thing. No, 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:19.320 it's not in the scope of it too. We're talking 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:23.360 about captain credit card interest rates. But if Kamala Harris 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:28.360 did that or the two thousand dollars dividend check, Biden 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.440 did that with student loans and we were all pissed 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:34.000 off about that more subsidy. But wait a minute, we're 1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.720 taking the tear iff money that's costing it. We're paying 1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:39.400 for more because of terrorists. And now we're going to 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.080 get the money back in a sub so our farmers 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:42.600 for that matter, it's more the same thing. And I 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:44.640 look at it going if the other side we're doing this, 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:46.360 would it be different? And I have to say, no, 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:50.840 it wouldn't it be the same thing. And I know 1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:53.440 what's troubling now, especially in Minnesota is and I had 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:56.240 a lady on yesterday, Betsy Brentner Smith front of the show, 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.560 she is with the National Police Association on at nine 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:00.240 o'clock and we went head to head on this thing, 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:02.160 and she said, you know, basically what they're doing is okay. 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.040 I'm like, I don't know if I agree with that. Man, 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:07.800 I mean, I don't listen. Then that's probably pretty scary 1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:10.400 to think that someone would listen to Christy Nomes press 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:12.600 conference about how this is a domestic terrorist and was 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:15.280 there to kill cops and believe that and then if 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:17.360 you saw the video you went, yeah, that's what was happening. 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:21.800 We've lost our ability, I think, to be to make 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:23.800 our own minds up. I think we would rather follow 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.720 the lead. And it's true. It's like, you know, I 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.920 mentioned that politics has become like religion. You know, you 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.120 may have questions about your faith, your religion, and that's 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:33.680 why I got out of the business being Catholic. Well, 1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.439 largely it had to do with a bunch of things, 1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.000 and the least of which, of course, is the abuse 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:40.320 stuff that they kept covering up. I said, I can't 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:43.200 that's not religion to me, that's a cult. If you 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.520 fully believe that. Oh no, no, no, people are just 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:47.680 making this up and be no. It's like you have 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:51.840 to be a little bit skeptical and judgmental. It doesn't 1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:54.120 mean you can't support your religion, but when you just 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:57.400 simply turn your eye to atrocities, I can't support that. 1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:01.080 That just me my personal abuse. The same thing here. 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.959 It's like, I know what I saw, and I'm willing 1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:07.520 to change my view on it if and when we 1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:12.280 see the video from the body cans and what this guy, 1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.800 this pretty guy did or said or what his actions were, 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:16.520 and maybe we didn't see it in the citizen video. 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:17.600 I don't know. I want to hear more of it. 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:19.560 But if I were to make my matter right now, 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:22.320 I'm looking at this going, this is bad. There's no 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:24.760 reason to shoot this guy. Well, he had a gun 1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:26.560 on him, yeah, but he wasn't brandishing the gun. He 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:28.200 wasn't reaching for the gun. As a matter of fact, 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:30.480 before they took him down, he had a cell phone, 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:33.200 his camera out and his hand up like, hey, I'm 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:35.080 not a threat to you. I don't have my hand 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:37.560 in my pocket or anything like that. There's no reason 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:39.760 to do that. And then you know, the pumbling started. 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:41.560 Pull somebody pulls a gun off and then he gets shot. 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:44.080 Like well, he might have had a second gun. Yeah, 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:45.800 I think if he had a second gun, they already 1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:48.280 would have shown it. They showed the first gun. Whether 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:50.080 they're going to wait to drop the second gun tomorrow, 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:52.440 Like no, they would have said he had another gun 1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:54.720 on and was going to shoot an officer. Which if 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:56.920 you're doing that and you're trying to reach out your weapon, 1:02:57.320 --> 1:03:00.400 you deserve to get shot. That's where got you haven't 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.440 gun on you and you try to reach short when 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:04.840 a cop is or in this case, an ice agent, 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:07.320 you're gonna get shot. But that didn't happen in this case. 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:09.560 And I think we just just kind of got to 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:13.000 be consistent in this whole thing. And there's a lot 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:15.520 of consistency out there, so you know, curious and I'm 1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:17.240 sure no one's going to admit this, but if you 1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:19.400 and all that, hey, don't tread on me. I want 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:21.680 the government on. I want less government. Well this feels 1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:23.880 like it's like the same, if not morning level governm 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:25.680 To be honest with you, I mentioned some of the 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:28.920 non Minnesota things, but this latest example is, yeah, when 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:31.040 you got ICE agents not granted, you know there are 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:35.240 people out there that are here illegally. I think if 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:37.560 you're here illegally and you're committing crimes. Now, the guy 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:39.880 that they were rounding up, he had it coming. He 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:45.800 was what a domestic abuser, I believe not a high crime, 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:47.919 and mismeet against the state was a conspiracy. But still, 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:49.160 you know you're beating the hell out of people are 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:51.400 here illegally, even i'd be showing the door. I support 1:03:51.480 --> 1:03:55.520 that in turning it around on the protesters, like everyone there, 1:03:55.720 --> 1:03:57.680 everyone ICE is rounding up, you're trying to stop them 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.280 from doing it. Well, what if it's a person who, 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:01.800 if you left unchecked, would go and rape your daughter 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.920 or your wife or I don't know, go and he's 1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:08.520 an arsonist, right, burn your house down. Well that's different. No, 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.080 it's the same thing. Like I think you also got 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:13.800 to look at it going. Are they getting people? Are 1:04:13.840 --> 1:04:16.280 there picking up people who should be arrested. 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:16.560 Yes. 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:20.360 The problem though, of course, is that some of the 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:22.880 people they are and I don't know what the percentages aren't. 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:25.040 I mean, if you're just doing this and kicking doors 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:26.960 in with no warrant, by the way, just to simply 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:30.760 get someone who's in this country illegally, that is that 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:33.320 that seems to be an an extreme use of force, 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:36.120 Like that's what this isn't about. We're told, hey, when 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:37.760 we do this, we're going after the really bad people, 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:40.320 the criminals, you know, MS thirteen, all the other the 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:42.560 gang members. Okay, great, but now it's like, all right, 1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:44.560 guy at home depot who's been here in the country 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:47.320 for ten or fifteen years, making money, paying taxes as 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:50.640 a family, like, you know, snatching him up and deporting 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:52.720 that doesn't make a lot of sense kids and everything else. 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:54.880 So you know, it's like, if you just did this 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:56.680 in the context of what we've told us, I think 1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:58.840 a lot of people would be And to my point, 1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:02.680 if you look at the numbers on immigration and enforcement, 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:04.960 that Trump Trump was killing everybody and that was like 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:08.200 one of the high one of the very few things 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:10.040 he wasn't upside down on the polling, and now he's 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:12.640 even lost him on that. So I think it goes 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:15.080 show most people are most people are moderate in their 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.320 views and go listen. I get what you're doing, but 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:20.080 you can't go too far, you know, not having a 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:23.160 warrant and knocking a door and you're an agency, you're not. 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:25.400 You don't have a you don't have a court order 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:26.640 for this. You can't simply do that. 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:26.960 Now. 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:29.320 If you're chasing somebody down the street, and maybe there's 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:32.160 probable cause, it's one thing, but I don't know, smashing 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:35.560 down doors, that's that' civil rights, you know, And it 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:37.880 doesn't make you soft on immigration and saying well you 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:40.880 just want that, you just want these illegals here. Yeah, 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:42.480 you just simply can't round them up that way. We 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:45.560 had horrible policies relative to immigration for the history of 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:48.440 this country up until it's become an issue now. I'll 1:05:48.480 --> 1:05:51.680 remember when I think the first Bush was president and 1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:54.720 I was down in southern Texas and people are literally 1:05:54.840 --> 1:05:57.040 just walking across the border. I mean that was pretty 1:05:57.080 --> 1:06:01.400 conservative President George W. Bush Bush forty one. So, I mean, 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:04.560 what's changed. We realize that there's drugs and crime and 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:07.120 everything else coming in this country, and we've got to 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:09.680 do something to make sure that we close the borders off. Okay, great, 1:06:09.720 --> 1:06:12.160 we were doing that. It's working really well, even without 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:14.520 a wall, which I thought was a bad idea. So 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.920 the policies are working, but it seems a lot of 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:21.240 cases punching down. So the idea here that you know, 1:06:21.320 --> 1:06:23.160 you're allowed to be according to the civil right, you're 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:25.120 allowed to be out in the street, you're allowed to video. 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:29.080 If that leads to this shooting of pretty I just 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.400 I look, I have a hard time going wow, that 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:34.320 was a good shoot. That was justified. And I would 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:36.920 say that most all the cases, whether it's ice or 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:40.400 regular old police, I see him and I go, well, 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:42.280 that's kind of what you get. You know, you had 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:44.800 it coming because you're resisting, or you're showing force, or 1:06:44.800 --> 1:06:46.720 you're not showing your hands, and the officer's worried about 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:47.120 his safety. 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:48.480 That this was not that. 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:51.880 You know, you instantly had five guys on him, and 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:55.320 you know, instead of de escalating, you walked down and 1:06:55.400 --> 1:06:58.520 you shoved the guy. Now you know they's say he 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:00.440 assaulted the officer. I mean he put his hand up 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:02.760 because he's falling backwards, and then that woman you got 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:04.920 pepper spray and a whole bunch of other stuff. I've 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:07.240 never been pepper sprayed. I'm trying to go through life 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:10.280 without being pepper sprayed or taste. And I go through 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:12.440 life and go, yeah, I imagine that sucks. And you're 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:16.320 probably grasping for things because you can't see, and then 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:18.640 you're being shoved back at the same time. So like, 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:21.040 I don't know, it's like that wasn't the escalation. That 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.880 was escalation, and he had a bunch officers on him instantly, 1:07:23.960 --> 1:07:25.720 and you know, they pull a gun out and then 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:28.360 shoot the guy. It was up to that point like, okay, 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:30.840 you could probably solve this in court, but once you 1:07:30.920 --> 1:07:33.840 shoot someone and kill them, there's no solving that in court. 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:37.200 And I think most Americans are now, even Republicans are. 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:39.760 A couple dozen Republicans are saying, hey, we got to 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:43.480 investigate this. Good, it's about time would say this. I 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:46.720 think that this, sadly, the death of this man, Alex 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:48.920 pretty is a turning point for this whole thing. It's like, 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:51.400 maybe we do start paying attention to going, hey, listen, 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:54.840 just because it's the team I support doesn't mean they're 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:57.200 always right. And I don't know why that's a bad thing. 1:07:57.240 --> 1:07:59.160 I don't know why we can't say that. I don't 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:02.080 know why we can't admit and listen. I support him 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:04.040 because they have good ideas and forcing law, whole bunch 1:08:04.040 --> 1:08:06.440 of stuff. But some stuff goes over the line, and 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:08.120 this is one of the things that went over the line. 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:11.760 In my opinion. Doesn't throw everything out that happens as 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:13.320 good as a way. But you know, you've got to 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:16.200 draw a line somewhere. You just simply can't like religion 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:18.559 or sports going I my team winner. Hell, we're more 1:08:18.600 --> 1:08:20.320 critical of sports. Look what we do with the Bengals. 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:22.560 We want the Bengals to win and go to the 1:08:22.560 --> 1:08:24.920 Super Bowl. Yeah, but look how we tear them apart 1:08:24.960 --> 1:08:27.840 when they lose. We don't do that with our politicians. 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.760 And these people work for us, and especially so much 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:33.320 so if you voted for them. Just saying we got 1:08:33.360 --> 1:08:36.440 a news update here in just minutes on seven hundred WLW, 1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:38.960 we are heading into a new area here. We had 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:42.719 the heavy snowfall and now we have the very cool temperatures, 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:46.360 meaning we are inside for the duration, and so we're 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.120 inside more we're in dry environments. What does that mean 1:08:49.439 --> 1:08:52.400 cold flu RSV rates start to spread, maybe even COVID 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:52.880 a little bit too. 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:53.040 Well. 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:56.640 Check in with doctor Stephen Vegan's doctor. Stephen is the 1:08:56.840 --> 1:08:59.960 director of Hamlet. He's a medical director for Hamlin count 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:02.599 the Health Department, and we'll talk about the local flu 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:05.519 outlook and so much more coming up at eleven oh 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:07.400 seven right after news update, and then we close things 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:09.160 out with Andy Shaffer from all Worth and how this 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:11.320 is impact in the markets, which are looking pretty good today. 1:09:11.320 --> 1:09:14.320 I think we're up, Nastac's up a couple hundred points today, 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:16.400 so it's definitely a good starting. Despite what we hear 1:09:16.400 --> 1:09:18.320 about all these problems in America and the tariffs and 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:20.519 everything else, you know, buy and large, the markets have 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:23.200 figured this out like, Okay, it's just noise. Every day 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:27.120 there's going to be something new and we just won't 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:29.519 pay attention to it. We probably need to be more 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:32.720 like Wall Street in that sense as you look at it, go, yeah, 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:34.040 are they freaking out over stuff? 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:34.200 No? 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:36.320 Okay, should we be freaking out? 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:36.680 Yah? 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:40.679 Probably not, because they they're not fedist. You know, they're 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:44.120 not paying attention to the steady diet of doom, scrolling 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:48.120 headlines and you know, cable news all that other stuff 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:50.080 we pay attention to and thinking it's worse than it 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:52.600 really is. We've got problems for sure, but you know, 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:55.200 buying large economies someone along at this point, and I 1:09:55.240 --> 1:09:57.479 think we had to take some solace in that, quite honestly. Anyway, 1:09:57.560 --> 1:10:00.200 let me get a news update in and more follow 1:10:00.240 --> 1:10:02.400 at eleven oh seven. Here we talk a little flu 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:04.360 and I guess it's gone down now, but it's going 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:07.120 to start picking back up, is what I heard, starting 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:09.920 next month, and probably because we're all stuck inside for sure. 1:10:10.120 --> 1:10:12.280 Scott's Flown Show on the Home of the Reds, seven 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:20.960 hundred WLW, Cincinnati. Scott Flown Show on seven hundred W LW. Yeah, 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:22.840 we got the cold, we got the ice, we've got 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:25.320 the storm. Everything hopefully is behind us at this point. 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:27.439 We'll see where we move from here. I do know 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:30.599 this though, with everyone stuck inside, we're starting to see 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:34.439 an increase see number of people presenting in emergency rooms 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:37.599 and the like who are sick. Ohio's experience a high 1:10:37.600 --> 1:10:41.760 intensity flu outbreak right now. Also RSV respiratory virus season. 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:44.880 This year, things have kind of staibled a little bit 1:10:44.920 --> 1:10:46.479 that way, but we're going to get a big surge again, 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:48.720 I guess in February, so literally in a few days. 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:51.720 Here it is in fluenza AA super flu strain that 1:10:51.880 --> 1:10:54.160 is out there right now, and right now we've been 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:57.400 hospitalizations are nearly double what we saw at this time 1:10:57.520 --> 1:10:59.799 last year, and about to get worse. Doctor Stephen Fagin's 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.559 is the medical director for Hamlin County. Stephen, welcome, Harry, doctor. 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:06.599 Thanks got good morning, happy cold cold morning. 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:09.280 Yeah, no kidding, right, I mean that's the other element 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:12.760 here too, with these sub zero temperatures. You know, what 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:14.639 do you guys? You know at the Hamlin County Health Department, 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:16.799 most people had the last couple of days off anyways 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:19.080 because of the ice and the snow and all that stuff. 1:11:19.120 --> 1:11:21.040 But what do you go deal with when we had 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:22.160 a weather emergency like that. 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.360 It is so cold on just a few minutes outside, 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:28.320 especially doing things like shoveling snow, which can be the 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:31.240 most dangerous thing you do for your part and for 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:35.240 other things. Always take a few breaks the time and 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:39.120 things like that. But so far, not a lot of hypothermia, 1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:42.680 thankfully people have been inside. But a big issue is 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:45.120 people can't leave the hospital. 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:49.000 Yeah you got you gotta get them out right, and 1:11:49.479 --> 1:11:52.400 we're all stuck inside now, which also further complicates the 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:55.200 issue of cold and flu on ours v right. 1:11:56.640 --> 1:11:58.760 Can it can? And certainly you know those people that 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:00.240 you're stuck in around. 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:02.000 Out for a while, so they're not new people giving 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:02.439 you stuff. 1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:07.160 But you know, you talk about the influenza, which really 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:11.240 really skyrocketed sort of like in sort of early February, 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:14.160 and because of the news training actually coming down here 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:17.439 in southwest Ohio and starting around the state. And so 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:21.360 we peaked, you know, right at sort of Christmas or 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:25.920 this Christmas holiday, probably three and a half times the 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:29.439 peak that we've seen before. We're still above, we're still 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.759 above the highest people. We we came down very quickly. 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:36.160 And that's what kind of what you'll see for something 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:39.599 that a community is not accustomed to. Thankfully, the two 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:42.400 mutations occurred on the part that makes it infectious rather 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:44.400 than part that makes it you know, virulent. 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:44.720 Are really bad. 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:47.800 So the deaths and things like that not not as much, 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:51.960 but it is coming down. In my own hostile there 1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:52.760 were tons of flu. 1:12:52.960 --> 1:12:54.040 Now now not so much. 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:57.360 Are we going to accord that the what I said 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.600 was from the CDC about that we're expecting it to 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.600 trend back upwards next month, literally another week or so. 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:05.120 Are we going to see that here in Ohio, South 1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:06.639 in Kentucky. 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:09.320 That's a big question on Board would like to know. 1:13:09.600 --> 1:13:11.800 And you know you've seen one flu seven, you've seen 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.200 one flu season. I do think we'll see a double peak, 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:18.040 second peak. You know, this is one strain of one strain, 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:20.080 and so there are other strains of flu. There are 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:22.560 other strains of restless stuff. So I do think in 1:13:22.640 --> 1:13:25.400 February we'll see some kind of increase. I don't think 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:28.679 it'll be anywhere near what we saw in early January. 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:32.640 Oh well, that's good news. The other element here too. 1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:35.080 People hear this and go, okay, well it's a super 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.320 flu strain. It's dominant virus. I know people that are 1:13:38.360 --> 1:13:39.760 getting sick and a like, is it too late to 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:40.559 get a flu shot? 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:42.840 It was not too late to get a flu shot, 1:13:42.920 --> 1:13:46.040 especially since the probably next peak that we see will 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:49.439 be exactly what the flues four, so a good match, 1:13:49.520 --> 1:13:51.360 and so no, it is absolutely not too late. It 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:53.720 does take a week or two for it to have 1:13:53.840 --> 1:13:56.599 an effect. So you want to get it sooner than later. 1:13:56.720 --> 1:13:58.320 But we'll keep saying get a flu shot until the 1:13:58.400 --> 1:13:59.160 end of the flu season. 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:03.320 Yeah, uh, Steven Stector Figan's if you got a shot 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:06.400 in I don't know, September October, the conventional I don't 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:09.120 know if it's it's wisdom or just a livestale, is that, Hey, 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:10.960 that's only good for ninety days. You might have to 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:13.519 get another one. Does the antibody stay in your body? 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:14.880 Do you need another flu shot if you had it 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:15.919 in September October? 1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:19.120 That's a great question. You know, they do decrease, and 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:21.639 that's why you get it. Every year last maybe six 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:25.160 months at most four months probably average. Some people like 1:14:25.240 --> 1:14:27.080 to wait until they kind of know the flu is 1:14:27.160 --> 1:14:30.080 really really coming out there, but it's still there. There 1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:32.760 is no recommendation for a second flu shot, like a 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:34.839 second boost or anything. In fact, think nons of studies 1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:36.479 and it really didn't make a difference. 1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:39.120 Yeah, for the season itself, it's only six months, and 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:42.240 that that shot should last year what you're saying they should. Yeah, 1:14:42.360 --> 1:14:44.760 And if it doesn't, it's because well, we you know, 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:47.240 it's a guessing game, you guys, you know they're working 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:49.200 in the other half there they're working on what they 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:50.800 think is going to be the strain, and sometimes you 1:14:50.880 --> 1:14:53.200 do miss that. But it does protect you in a 1:14:53.280 --> 1:14:55.760 sense that your antibodies are up in your own body 1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:58.640 that you produce UH to protect you. So even if 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.400 you get the flu, can imagine it's happened to be 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:03.120 last year. I always get the flu shot, and I 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:04.559 got it last year, but it was only a couple 1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:06.760 of days. Hit me pretty hard, and I thought, well, 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:08.439 thank god I had the flu shot because it'd be 1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:10.400 much much worse if I didn't. I still got it, 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:12.080 but it wasn't as bad as it could have. 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:16.439 Been, exactly like the Five Days of badness. There's also 1:15:16.520 --> 1:15:21.080 influence and medication still works in too. Thankfully the mutations 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:24.080 has not really change that. So but you got to 1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:26.479 take it within the first day or two of the symptom. 1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:29.240 You know, they started very suddenly for it to work, 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:32.120 and really it really does. It just stops it from replicating, 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:34.799 so it goes away faster when you take the medication. 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:36.479 Yeah, you still got to get a script for that too. 1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:39.920 It seems like that's something like an epi pench before 1:15:39.960 --> 1:15:41.759 you Like, by the time I get to my doctor, 1:15:41.800 --> 1:15:44.240 they call the script and it's it's already advanced. 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:48.160 Yeah, it's interesting, you know, making that over the counter. 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:51.960 It isn't anti viral. Sometimes there are certain nursing homes 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:54.640 if there's an outbreak, then they give it one to 1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:58.839 day to everybody for a couple of weeks, even force things. Bamously, 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.479 the US Olympic team had a flu outbreak and they 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:04.040 took Cama flu and they won from five bowld medals, 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:06.080 one winters from that team, so. 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:09.920 You know, yeah again it's doctor Stephen Figgins. He's director 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:12.840 Hamlet County Medical EMLA County Medical Director. I guess I 1:16:12.880 --> 1:16:15.439 should say we're talking about the flu and RS season 1:16:15.920 --> 1:16:17.840 where what these cold temperatures are going to be stuck 1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:20.439 indoors even more. Of course that causes it to be 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:23.280 more communicable because you're around people the drier temperatures and 1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:26.400 other thing, which is why we advise having the humidity 1:16:26.520 --> 1:16:29.080 level in your house like around nice, comfortable thirty percent. 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:33.120 It saves money, but also it may reduce you getting 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:35.360 the sickness or at least passing on, which is in 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:37.439 the workplace you don't really have that. This is why 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:39.560 we see the flu spread as much as we do 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:41.519 humidity is a big part of part of this too, right, 1:16:42.040 --> 1:16:43.480 that can't be understanding. 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:44.560 It really is. 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:46.840 And so why do you get cold in the cold. 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:49.439 It's not necessarily the cold weather, it's the lower humidity 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.360 and that's virus. So a ton of studies I've really 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:56.920 shown that, you know, it's it's the lower humidity that 1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:59.840 doesn't really cause the virus and has a little very 1:16:59.840 --> 1:17:02.080 own to break up like higher if you look at 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:05.640 versus say forty percent, you know you're gonna have a 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:10.320 lot less virus property particles make it sixty plus for 1:17:11.080 --> 1:17:14.360 the higher humidity bacteria of the opposite though, it's actually 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:17.240 lower humidity that you want for bacteria. That's how your 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:20.839 operating rooms are all run at lower humidity on purpose 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:24.439 to prevent bacterial infections. And so it's the viruses that 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:28.760 are not inhibited by the lower humidity. So what about 1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:32.320 it humidifier, you know, and and for that little piece 1:17:32.360 --> 1:17:35.679 that it helps helps with symptoms, may help increase the humidity, 1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:38.880 elect may help with symptoms, but make sure that you 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:41.680 wash it because you don't want the bacteria in humidifying. 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:45.400 Okay, so let's talk about maybe if we get a 1:17:45.400 --> 1:17:48.200 second wave the FED saying, Okay, CDC looks like we 1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:50.240 may see a spike in February, said got, I hope not. 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:53.040 But some of you plan for the worst, hope for 1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:53.400 the best. 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:56.120 We always plan for, say, if you're a health system, 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:59.680 you always plan for a third in anything. Right now, 1:18:00.240 --> 1:18:02.560 children since the children that seem more rs to the 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:06.320 hospitalizations and flu, so there's always some virus or. 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:07.240 Some kind of bactery. 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:09.200 It's gonna going to be out there, so you're always 1:18:09.200 --> 1:18:11.800 planned for that. As a house, you know, you always 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:16.200 plan for treatment or being able to call a healthcare 1:18:16.600 --> 1:18:19.280 provider to get medication or at least to get an 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:22.240 evaluation if if need be. And so you know, the 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:24.400 usual things are the are the usual things just like 1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:25.519 you're just like your mom. 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:28.160 Said, yeah, well how are we doing on RSV? 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:31.719 So r C is a in fact, if you look around, 1:18:32.760 --> 1:18:35.120 we don't know as much about our speakers. We don't 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:35.880 test any adults. 1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:37.200 They tested children. 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:38.120 More often than not. 1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:40.320 We don't test it, so it could be more than 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:43.439 we we know. So we look at wastewater, and wastewater 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:47.360 says show r SC levels being about half because they 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:49.800 were very high at this time last year, so maybe 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:52.800 half to two thirds of what they were last year, 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:55.720 but certainly typical of this time of year. 1:18:57.280 --> 1:19:00.800 Okay, So r SV is a from the entire generally 1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:03.000 hits the younger and maybe the older as well, but 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:05.519 all of us. I think we all amen, I got 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:06.840 I hope I don't get the flu this year, and 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:08.599 a lot of people are sick. And I think there's 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:11.320 also a misdiagnosis too, would you agree most people think 1:19:11.360 --> 1:19:12.960 they have the flu and it may not be the flu, 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:14.800 or don't think they have the flu and they actually do. 1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:18.120 Oh, of course, and who knows what the you know 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:21.479 what the cold is and soil You test pretty much 1:19:21.640 --> 1:19:24.760 everybody who comes in works department or at least gets 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:26.560 in the hospital gets at least a flu test A 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:29.280 and B, and in a COVID test. Sometimes we do 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:30.280 more if we're not sure. 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:31.519 But yeah, I mean there's all. 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:34.519 Kinds of stuff, you know, you you may or may 1:19:34.560 --> 1:19:36.479 not have had, and you get through it. 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:40.400 How's our COVID rates by the way, so COVID, you. 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:43.360 Know, kind of popped up and in fact I sort 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:46.960 of see more in the hospital myself and maybe peaking 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:51.240 U probably you know half of what last year and 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:53.559 you had a little little peak in August, so we're 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:56.720 roughly about that level. And so that's why, you know, 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:58.800 when you look at the winter, you look at it 1:19:58.840 --> 1:20:01.240 as a whole respiratory season. It always seems like something's 1:20:01.280 --> 1:20:04.160 going to fill it. Floo comes down, COVID goes up, RSB, whatever, 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:08.320 And so the actual number of respiratory I ealnits is 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:12.000 are kind of constant for the curve through the winter. 1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:14.439 Right, is that part of the problem too. You mentioned 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:16.439 all of the confluence of these things, and with multiple 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:20.120 respiratory viruses co circulating, I think people need to know 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:23.240 to make treatment decisions. For example, you know, I mentioned 1:20:23.280 --> 1:20:25.920 tamil flu for the flu, but what is the state 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:28.160 here of accessible affordable testing in the county. 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:31.800 It's pretty good, and so we do recommend, you know, 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:33.799 going in goo store and you can get a combination 1:20:34.040 --> 1:20:37.360 of flu and covid death. And in fact, you know, 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.400 sometimes employers will ask employees to do that, like, hey, 1:20:40.439 --> 1:20:42.920 you're feeling bad, go and check that. Check that before 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:44.960 you come. And certainly sports teams, hey you feeling bad, 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:47.360 go ahead and check that. Law sports teams travel with 1:20:47.439 --> 1:20:51.760 those with those testings. So it's pretty pretty available, Like 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.920 twenty dollars or so you can get there. You need 1:20:54.960 --> 1:20:58.439 to do two. And so you do need to do one. Okay, 1:20:58.479 --> 1:21:00.760 it's negative, you know, wait twelve hours or maybe the 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:03.200 next day the second one just to confirm. And that's 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:06.160 why there are two tests in those in those packets 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:06.559 that you buy. 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:08.800 Gotcha, what is the shelf life for that? By the way, 1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:10.920 most people don't even buy the reading expiration. 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:15.559 Dates well, you know they're pretty good, pretty last at 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:16.519 least a couple of years. 1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:18.640 Always check the expiration date. 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:23.679 Hopefully don't sell stuff that's expired. But they they continue 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:26.080 to study, you know, whether these things are still correct. 1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:29.200 Even though COVID changes, the test still picks it up 1:21:29.479 --> 1:21:32.400 and the influenza changes, the new flute still picked up 1:21:32.600 --> 1:21:36.719 by the point care or the typical influenza tests. They've 1:21:36.800 --> 1:21:40.280 checked that, so they're still reasonably accurate. Hardst part is 1:21:40.400 --> 1:21:42.760 getting the thing up your nose to the point that 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:43.360 it needs to be. 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:46.840 Well, if you've been around during what six years ago, 1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:49.599 you remember jamming that thing up until it came out 1:21:49.640 --> 1:21:51.040 of the top of your head, So you know those 1:21:51.080 --> 1:21:52.599 days are back when you get the two we should 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:53.320 be used to this stuff. 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:55.040 Doctor, Well, sort of. 1:21:55.240 --> 1:21:57.840 Yeah, it's always uncomfortable to get that thing and get 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.560 that good sample, but again that you know what you 1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:03.760 have and can seek treatment relative to especially with flu, 1:22:03.880 --> 1:22:06.439 you can get early treatment and really knock that thing down. 1:22:06.479 --> 1:22:10.439 Between the vaccination and tamil, food products, anti virals, you're 1:22:10.439 --> 1:22:13.080 probably in pretty good shape. It seems like we are 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.280 weathering the storm quite well here. We are, like you know, 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:17.439 it feels like we're halfway through winter. Although Winner doesn't 1:22:17.439 --> 1:22:19.200 want to give it up, it's going to be a 1:22:19.240 --> 1:22:21.400 while here before we can stop having this conversation. But 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:23.479 you see them on top of things and ready for 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:25.720 whatever other nature throws out. 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:29.160 It sounds like, well, thanks. And there's a ton of 1:22:29.200 --> 1:22:32.519 people epidemiologists and a ton of people always want and 1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:35.920 always looking want checking down the sort of you know, 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:40.920 assous disease fighters there who are working, working all the time, 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.519 and anytime something pops up, there's the conversation discussion. And 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:47.240 we talk not just with the health departments, with the 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:50.439 health systems, and so we have a pretty good network. 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:53.640 We've been texting all morning of the health systems and 1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:55.280 health departments here in this part of the country. 1:22:56.040 --> 1:22:57.880 Yeah, I mean, you work together to make sure that 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:00.120 you know, you see the trends coming before we know 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:02.200 about them for sure. Is there something on the horizon 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:04.360 you know about you can maybe in the next couple 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:06.360 of weeks or a couple of months, how and how 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:09.439 far in advance you kind of figure these things out well. 1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:12.879 And so there is this thing called the winter vomiting 1:23:12.960 --> 1:23:16.120 thickness votavirus, you know, the things see on cruise it 1:23:16.200 --> 1:23:18.760 and stuff like that. And we in the past week 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:22.160 or so have in fact seeing uh one or more 1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:24.560 of our wastewater treatment plants start to come up in 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:28.080 voatavirus and so probably put out you know, the alert 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:30.560 here in the next next day or so. And so 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:34.960 that's not something you want either. And so it's not 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.400 a bit so you know, but I will tell you 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:41.640 it's that right now it's roughly half of what it 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:43.240 was this time of year. But this time of year 1:23:43.520 --> 1:23:46.439 last year we had one of the highest amounts of 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:48.720 roatavirus that we've seen a long time. So so we're 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:51.720 at typical levels, but we are you know, the wastewater 1:23:51.840 --> 1:23:53.960 is showing at and you know, wastewater doesn't lie for 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:56.240 vatavirus because that's how it how it breads. 1:23:56.720 --> 1:24:01.280 Yeah, so rotavirus routine backs. Infants get it a lot too. 1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:04.479 But is it solely hand washing? And what is the 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:07.200 as you call the vector the same? What how do 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:09.679 you want to contract is it? Is it their dirty hands? 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:10.720 Right? 1:24:10.880 --> 1:24:11.280 The same thing? 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:15.080 Hand washing, good hand washing, nortrus, both of those are 1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:18.680 kind of the same. And so you know, good good 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:23.639 hand washing, and especially especially Swinea family is really throwing 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:26.720 up a lot. It is that you know, that bombit it, 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.280 that's duchius. And so you want to sanitize that and 1:24:30.360 --> 1:24:32.760 make sure it's washed with soap and water, not hand 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:36.639 sanitizer because the alcohol really didn't didn't take nor ours. 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:39.160 Oh wow, so that's good news. Okay, I'll throw alcohol, 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:41.120 you know, hand sanitizer on it. That does not do it. 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:43.640 It's got to be soap, uh sir factor. And then 1:24:43.720 --> 1:24:45.880 you wash your hands for twenty seconds and get all 1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:49.439 those germs down the sink. Yes, yep, and only watched 1:24:49.439 --> 1:24:51.240 a second. Just rub your face, touch your hand to 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:51.639 your face. 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:52.000 You got it. 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:54.840 If you got that habit, it's not a good one 1:24:54.880 --> 1:24:56.639 to have this. This is this time of year, that's 1:24:56.680 --> 1:25:00.479 for sure. Doctor Stephen Fagan's uh he is the medical 1:25:00.520 --> 1:25:03.160 Director Hamilt County. Thanks again so much for the information. 1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:03.920 Appreciate it. 1:25:04.040 --> 1:25:06.120 Be well, take care every day. 1:25:06.600 --> 1:25:08.599 Yeah, there's a few more people back at work today, 1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:11.559 but again we're not the full strength, as we say 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:14.240 in hockey. We'll do a news update in a few minutes. 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:17.200 At cold is gonna last. Here's a spoiler alert for 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:18.840 you with the weather, it's gonna last for a couple 1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:22.519 of weeks. It's a good feel like anyway, maybe a 1:25:22.880 --> 1:25:25.120 week from Thursday possibly. I guess this is when we 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:27.560 may get near freezing at this point. Who knows. You 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:30.080 just gotta bear down. We're gonna white knuckle it literally 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:32.080 and figuratively for sure. So that's on the way. We 1:25:32.160 --> 1:25:34.720 get news update latest to Minnesota and we'll return a 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:37.080 little money tune up. Andy Shaeffer drops in once again. 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:40.840 He's with Simply Money and all Worth Advisors. Lots to 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:45.840 talk about the markets, including India and the European Union 1:25:45.920 --> 1:25:48.960 getting together to try and gang up on the United 1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:51.519 States to try and circumvent tariffs. What does all that mean? 1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:54.040 We'll talk about it next with Andy Shaeffer from Alworth 1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:55.840 on the Scott Sloan Show. This is seven hundred w 1:25:57.000 --> 1:26:00.280 time to talk about money, how to make it, how 1:26:00.360 --> 1:26:03.040 did you keep it, and how to keep others off 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:10.000 your stack. This is all Worth Advice with Andy Schaeffer. 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:12.240 All right, wrapping up the show this morning, as we 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:14.960 do on Tuesdays with our buddy Andy Shaffer from all 1:26:15.080 --> 1:26:18.080 Worth Financial. Drew, Good morning house. Things in the deep 1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:20.120 priests for you way out there in Claremont County. 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:23.559 Yeah, everything's great. They cleared the roads pretty well for us, 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:25.960 and you know we're just kind of hunkering down out here. 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:28.680 But no business as usual as far as the markets go. 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:32.280 Yeah, that's true, and everyone is. I guess anyone possible 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:35.200 working from home. Yesterday when I left the station, it 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:36.960 looked like it was Christmas Day. There's no one in 1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:40.240 the parking garage today. A few more cars, but not many. 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:43.439 So that, you know, from an economic perspective, that helps 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:45.720 because you can work literally from anywhere. Let's get into 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:49.519 this stuff. I'll put you on the spot and about 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:52.400 this new deal that India and the Europeanian Union struck 1:26:52.479 --> 1:26:54.920 a trade deal. As you know, we hit them with 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:59.040 fifty percent tariffs and now the EU and India said, okay, 1:26:59.120 --> 1:27:01.600 you know what, we'll partner together and we'll trade with 1:27:01.720 --> 1:27:04.120 you guys kind of squeeze in America out. I think 1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:06.720 the biggest thing, top of my mind, Andy, is what 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:09.160 about the auto market there, because we export a lot 1:27:09.200 --> 1:27:11.280 of our vehicles Detroit does to India. 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:12.320 Yeah. 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:14.439 I think it remains to be seen how this is 1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:16.400 all going to work out, but it's fascinating to me. 1:27:16.479 --> 1:27:19.600 I love following the news from a jeipolitical standpoint and 1:27:19.680 --> 1:27:21.560 how it might affect the economy in the markets. But 1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:24.519 this is kind of like the old end around for Canada, right, 1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:28.920 you know, because most of their you know, energy exports 1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:31.719 have been to the United States, about ninety eight percent 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:35.040 of their energy exports, and so it does make sense 1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:38.240 for them to actually look for other partners when doing deals, 1:27:39.000 --> 1:27:42.840 particularly with President Trump and the administration threatening one hundred 1:27:42.840 --> 1:27:45.479 percent tariffs on Canada if they get a deal done 1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:47.880 with China. So there's a lot of gamesmanship at play here. 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:52.080 But essentially what this is is Canada is negotiating a 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:54.720 deal where they're going to send a large amount of 1:27:54.880 --> 1:27:58.360 crude oil to India and in turn, India is going 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:00.400 to refine a lot of the oil and send it 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:03.600 back to Canada. And so you know, that irritates the 1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:07.679 Trump administration to some degree. We do enjoy our energy 1:28:07.760 --> 1:28:10.960 relationship with Canada, but I think you know, from Canada's standpoint, 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:13.120 they probably do need to look for different partners. I 1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:17.479 think more interestingly is the deal that they are potentially 1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:20.720 entering in with China, And I think that is a 1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:23.320 little bit more concerning because the Trump administration at this 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:26.519 point says, well, China is trying to look at kind 1:28:26.520 --> 1:28:30.160 of a workaround to get imports into the United States 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:32.800 and avoid terriffs by going through Canada first. And so 1:28:33.479 --> 1:28:36.360 both of these deals that Canada is negotiating right now 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:38.639 are very interesting and we'll see how it all plays out. 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:40.880 All right, Are they working around as to the point 1:28:40.880 --> 1:28:43.400 where maybe we ought to rethink these tariffs, because I mean, 1:28:43.439 --> 1:28:44.960 I have no idea. I'm going to ask you, is 1:28:46.040 --> 1:28:47.519 I don't know if the tariffs are working or not. 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:50.920 If it's gone on so long that our former partners 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:52.960 are starting to work without it's going, well, we'll just 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:55.439 work around the United States. I mean, they can't completely 1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:57.320 squeeze it out were America, for God's sake, so we 1:28:57.400 --> 1:28:57.880 do everything. 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:00.120 No, I don't think it's really going to have that 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:01.800 big of an impact. I think some of it is 1:29:01.960 --> 1:29:05.920 you know, gamesmanship. You know, at the end of the day, Canada, India, 1:29:06.120 --> 1:29:09.160 and China all need the consumer market of the United States, 1:29:09.400 --> 1:29:13.280 where the most robust economy in the world. Everybody wants 1:29:13.360 --> 1:29:15.240 to sell their goods to us, and I think that, 1:29:15.600 --> 1:29:18.160 you know, it's more about creating leverage than anything else. 1:29:18.200 --> 1:29:20.080 So it will be interesting. We're going to get our 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:24.360 trade deficit numbers that are delayed still from the government shutdown, 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:25.920 but we're going to get those this week and will 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.040 be interesting to see, you know, if we've been able 1:29:28.080 --> 1:29:29.479 to close the gap a little bit on that. But 1:29:29.520 --> 1:29:31.320 I don't think it's really going to have a major impact. 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:33.480 And again, most of this is a lot of negotiating 1:29:33.479 --> 1:29:36.360 employ Yeah, and I'm just curious to kind of watch 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:37.040 it from the sidewine. 1:29:37.080 --> 1:29:39.040 What's our exit strategy then how we get out of this? 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:42.160 Well, I think you know, first of all, you know, 1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:44.680 they're putting pressure on us in all these countries, right 1:29:44.720 --> 1:29:46.920 whether it's China, whether it's Canada, whether it's India, and 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:50.360 we have direct negotiations with each one of them, and ultimately, 1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:52.599 I think what we want to have happen is something 1:29:52.680 --> 1:29:55.880 that's a little bit more harmonious for everybody, so that 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:58.560 it does make sense. You know, initially the Trump administration 1:29:58.760 --> 1:30:01.800 and courage can to make some deals with China until 1:30:01.800 --> 1:30:03.559 they figured out, you know, kind of under the hood 1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:05.800 what was going on there, and the you know, from 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:09.200 an economic standpoint, the fear is that trying to is 1:30:09.360 --> 1:30:11.040 trying to go through Canada to get their goods in 1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:13.479 the United States and avoid the tariffs, and so that 1:30:13.600 --> 1:30:16.880 we lose levers. So I think this will all work 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:19.320 itself out over the next few months, and I don't 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:21.080 really think it's going to have a major impact on 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:21.960 the economy overall. 1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:24.360 Okay, good, it looks like markets agree with you there too. Good. 1:30:24.400 --> 1:30:26.479 I just you wonder, as a you know, just someone 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:29.439 who buys stuff, way where this is all going at 1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:29.840 this point. 1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:32.360 Yeah, And there could be some moments in time where 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:36.280 there might be some surges and prices you know, from 1:30:36.520 --> 1:30:38.840 imports with each of those countries, but none of it's 1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:41.240 going to be long term or lasting. And right now, 1:30:41.680 --> 1:30:44.480 you know, energy prices are fairly low and fairly affordable, 1:30:44.600 --> 1:30:46.320 so we do have some leeway there. 1:30:46.479 --> 1:30:49.120 All right, Andy Schaeffer, I saw that gold is at 1:30:49.400 --> 1:30:51.760 fifty one hundred ounce right now, which is an all 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:53.800 time high. Right there, you were. You were a guy 1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:55.840 told me not long ago, don't buy gold, gold, stoop, 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:58.080 don't buy gold. When's the time good time to buy gold? 1:30:58.080 --> 1:30:59.679 When's a good time to buy gold? When Andy said 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:01.040 it was still but to buy gold, that's when the 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:02.120 best time to buy gold was. 1:31:02.960 --> 1:31:03.840 Yeah, I think that. 1:31:04.040 --> 1:31:05.679 You know, when you look at the history of gold, 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:07.920 it's not a very it's not a very good long 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:12.400 term investment. Certainly, it's done very well lately, and you know, 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:15.680 and I was mistaken about that. However, it's not the 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:18.160 right time to buy gold. You're seeing right now with 1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:21.160 gold is that it is at all time highs and 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:23.120 a lot of it has to do not with you 1:31:23.280 --> 1:31:25.760 and me, Scott. It's not the average investor that's going 1:31:25.800 --> 1:31:30.799 out buying gold bars or stocking you know, their basements 1:31:30.880 --> 1:31:33.800 with all of this, you know, tangible gold. What we're 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:36.080 seeing is that you're seeing a lot of the banking 1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:39.120 industries starting their heads their bets because of a lot 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:41.519 of the geopolitical turmoil that we have, and they want 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:44.320 to make sure that they have enough reserves to be 1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:47.080 able to withstand any type of financial crisis that may 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.600 come down the road. Now, I think that's more just 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:53.200 playing it safe than anything else. We're also seeing China 1:31:53.240 --> 1:31:54.960 buy a lot of gold as well, and that's driving 1:31:55.080 --> 1:31:58.920 up the price too, So you know, the average person 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.799 isn't going out there buying a ton of gold coins 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:04.400 or gold bars. There is a little bit more exposure 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:07.320 in gold ETFs. But you have to remember, you know, 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:09.120 the S and P five hundred has done great too, 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:12.200 So it's it's not like gold has done well in 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:16.240 spite of other investments. It's just done well in addition 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:18.559 to the other investments. Yeah, yeah, I get it's got 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:20.800 I point your money. It's yeah, Okay, that's that's more. 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:22.680 I guess it's more Willy's act. He's coming up at 1:32:22.680 --> 1:32:24.320 the twelve US. He's the gold guy. Put everything in 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:27.439 the gold. Yeah, what you're saying, you know, we can 1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:29.400 talk about Willie. What what you are seeing is you 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:32.800 are seeing a lot of wealthier families by gold because 1:32:32.840 --> 1:32:35.400 they don't need to chase returns. So for them, it's 1:32:35.439 --> 1:32:39.559 more about wealth preservation than anything else. You know, when 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:42.560 you've become extremely wealthy, it's more about protecting what you 1:32:42.720 --> 1:32:45.920 have as opposed to trying to generate more wealth. And 1:32:46.040 --> 1:32:48.880 so you are seeing you know, more established wealthy families 1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:51.920 by more gold as opposed to you know, the everyday. 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:55.640 Joe Willy's got a room in his house. It's just gold, right, 1:32:55.680 --> 1:32:58.360 He said, well, yeah, sony, you gotta get gold. What 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:00.760 about when, well, when I arm that happens when the 1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:03.360 liberal Democrats take over, The streets are rife with blood 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:05.640 and our houses are on fire, and you're gonna need 1:33:05.720 --> 1:33:08.040 gold because currencies not go. What are you gonna do then? 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:08.960 What? Now? 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:11.559 And I said, I got a gun, I'll just take 1:33:11.640 --> 1:33:12.080 your gold. 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:13.439 That's right, that's right. 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:14.479 You can't eat gold. 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:18.080 I don't know you're you're old, and I got guns. 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:20.560 I'll just give me a stick them up, give me that. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:24.960 Uh Andy Schaeffer from all Worth Financial, simply money. Let's 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:27.920 talk about stop lelast or early last week, I guess 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:31.040 should say, with the Greenland thing, we saw stocks take 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:32.800 a dump, and then of course we said, well, hey, 1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:35.240 you know he goes just kidding, just joking, uh, and 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:36.840 then the markets went back up too. 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:37.360 Uh. 1:33:37.720 --> 1:33:39.280 And so it's see, I don't know if it's a 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:41.160 whip saw as much I think the markets are just 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:43.519 kind of used to this, but now we're on the Minnesota, 1:33:43.600 --> 1:33:46.440 so we've moved from one controversy to any in Venezuela. 1:33:46.520 --> 1:33:48.639 Seems like it's light years ago. For crying out loud, 1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:51.080 it seems like the markets of settling go, this is 1:33:51.200 --> 1:33:53.160 just gonna be you know, every day there's something new 1:33:53.240 --> 1:33:55.240 and we're not gonna pay attention to that. It feels 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:55.760 like that to me. 1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:59.080 Yeah, you'll see some swings, you know, generally speaking, when 1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:01.879 the economies expand and we have you know, this turmoil. 1:34:02.560 --> 1:34:05.040 You know, from a geopolitical standpoint, you will see the 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:08.680 market's whipsaul a little bit, but mostly that's due to 1:34:08.840 --> 1:34:13.000 investor irrational behavior. You know, people tend to respond to 1:34:13.120 --> 1:34:15.519 fear and greed, and fear is a bigger driver than greed. 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:18.280 And a lot of people watch headlines. You know, when 1:34:18.320 --> 1:34:20.599 I talk to my clients, whether they're you know, lean 1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:24.200 right or they lean left, they usually watch news organizations 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:28.160 that encourage what they already believe, as opposed to challenging 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:31.400 their beliefs. And so you do have investors that respond 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:32.400 to these types of things. 1:34:32.439 --> 1:34:32.600 You know. 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:35.160 Greenland's another one that's pretty fascinating. You know, when you 1:34:35.280 --> 1:34:38.400 look at Greenland. You know, initially it was the Trump 1:34:38.400 --> 1:34:40.720 administration say hey, we're going to move our military in there. 1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:42.960 We're gonna you know, basically take it over over. It's 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:45.040 going to become the fifty first state. And you know, 1:34:45.080 --> 1:34:47.240 when he was in Davos two days later, he said, 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:48.880 oh no, you know, we kind of have a deal 1:34:48.920 --> 1:34:51.280 done already. And I think from the Trump administration, when 1:34:51.320 --> 1:34:54.200 you look at Greenland, you know, from a geography standpoint, 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:56.240 if you're looking at a clock, Greenland is you know, 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:59.160 at one o'clock directly northeast of US, and it does 1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:02.720 make sense, you know from uh, you know from a 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:05.040 defense stamp there that we have to have our foot 1:35:05.080 --> 1:35:07.600 in that area not only for Arctic trade routes, but 1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:11.519 also to protect the Northern Hemisphere and North America. So 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:14.120 you know, that seems to be working itself out as well. 1:35:14.200 --> 1:35:15.439 Now we have a base there already. 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:18.160 I'm sure the Danish wouldn't care if we put another 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:20.160 one on the days A gah, go ahead, you're gonna 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:22.519 put the infrastructure there, we should be okay. Yeah, it 1:35:22.760 --> 1:35:25.960 seems like it's an asset and the way things are 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:27.519 changing the world. Yeah, but I don't know if you 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:29.439 need to take the country over completely in order to 1:35:29.520 --> 1:35:31.640 do that, which is all over countries that are are 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:35.080 not ours. Although people will say, hey, this time, you know, 1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:36.840 but this time with the things on them at this 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:38.639 time it's different, Is it really all that different? 1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:39.200 No. 1:35:40.000 --> 1:35:41.680 And the other thing is is I think, you know, 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:44.439 the Trump administration makes a good point about NATO. You know, 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:47.839 if if if China was able to get a foothold 1:35:48.040 --> 1:35:51.880 somehow to Greenland's rare earth minerals and those types of 1:35:51.960 --> 1:35:55.240 things that Denmark, probably it wouldn't be able to defend Greenland. 1:35:55.600 --> 1:35:57.760 And we are obligated as a nation, as a part 1:35:57.800 --> 1:36:01.519 of NATO to defend the other members of NATO. And 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.960 I think that's why the Trump administration is saying, hey, 1:36:04.240 --> 1:36:05.479 you know, we have a lot of skin in the 1:36:05.520 --> 1:36:07.640 game here. You know, what we're trying to do is 1:36:07.720 --> 1:36:10.800 be preemptive to make sure that there is protection there 1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:14.560 so that we're not reactionary if some type of military 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:18.120 action takes place. And so it seems like cooler heads 1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:20.960 are prevailing. It seems like we're not We're not going 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:23.040 to go in there and invade Greenland and take it over. 1:36:23.120 --> 1:36:24.920 It just seems like we're just going to have better 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:27.160 deals in a more clear picture and try to get 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.400 aligned in the same direction from a NATO standpoint. 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:31.960 Gotcha, all right, We are in earning season right now. 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:35.120 Actually hasn't go not quick kicked in a high gear yet, 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:37.000 but some numbers are coming out. What do we see. 1:36:37.439 --> 1:36:40.640 Well, Ups came out, you know, and their earnings were 1:36:40.640 --> 1:36:42.240 pretty good, and you know, I think we're going to 1:36:42.280 --> 1:36:44.880 continue to see some decent growth. Looking at about eight 1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:47.240 point four percent s and P five hundred earnings growth 1:36:47.280 --> 1:36:50.439 in quarter four, probably about seven point five revenue growth. 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:54.640 But typically you know, we usually see earnings to the 1:36:54.920 --> 1:36:57.120 side of that. Remember, companies kind of want to low 1:36:57.200 --> 1:37:00.000 ball their estimations because they want to tell their shareholder 1:37:00.479 --> 1:37:04.080 how good that we've done by beating those estimations. You know, 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.920 in twenty twenty five, earnings growth rate was over thirteen 1:37:07.000 --> 1:37:10.599 percent and that exceeded the expectation of five point six percent. 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:12.920 So you know, we might see a little bit more 1:37:13.040 --> 1:37:15.559 of the same. We're just getting started in earning a season. 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:19.200 We do have a number of companies that I'm looking 1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:23.960 at this week that are going to report, including Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.599 Microsoft and Video, and Tesla you know, so we'll see 1:37:27.640 --> 1:37:30.799 what happens. But right now things are trending towards the positive. 1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:31.519 All right, that's good. 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:33.960 So looking ahead here you mentioned a little bit of 1:37:34.040 --> 1:37:37.200 that too, don't we have a FED and Reserve meeting 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:39.400 and meetings every week? Oh, we got a big meeting. Yeah, 1:37:39.400 --> 1:37:42.439 that's all they do, is me. Yeah, they like, yeah, 1:37:42.560 --> 1:37:42.960 that's right. 1:37:43.520 --> 1:37:46.799 Well, we're going to get the feder Reserve Monetary policy 1:37:46.880 --> 1:37:49.599 meetings on Wednesday as always. We're going to get FED 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:53.040 sham and pals communication and taking questions after that meeting. 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:57.040 Right now, we're kind of in a goldilocks situation from 1:37:57.080 --> 1:38:00.320 an economic standpoint. You know, we're close to form ployment, 1:38:01.040 --> 1:38:04.240 inflation is under control. So I don't think there's going 1:38:04.320 --> 1:38:06.320 to be a lot of earth shattering news when FED 1:38:06.439 --> 1:38:08.840 chairman speaks. I don't expect that we're going to see 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:13.080 any rate changes this month. And you know, more, it's 1:38:13.120 --> 1:38:15.639 more important to understand what the guidance is from the Fed. 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:18.000 You know, what are they looking at moving forward? And 1:38:18.040 --> 1:38:20.000 that's why I like listening to the press conference because 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:22.920 a lot of good questions get asked. You know, it's 1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:25.519 likely we probably don't see another cut until June. The 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:27.840 Fed is in no hurry, so right now, you know 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:29.639 their stance is still pretty dubbish. 1:38:29.840 --> 1:38:33.320 Okay, Speaking of things coming up ahead this year, I 1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:35.679 know that now we have officially started, the green flag 1:38:35.800 --> 1:38:38.640 is up on tax season, we have taxis. I think 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:41.719 most people are going to get more money this year, right, yeah. 1:38:41.560 --> 1:38:44.600 We'll see. You know, the Trump administration is implemented. You 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:47.960 know some bigger refunds this year. You know some of 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:50.960 those include the senior deduction. If you're over sixty five, 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:53.840 you might be eligible for the new six thousand dollars 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:56.800 senior deduction. Now there is an income phase out. The 1:38:56.840 --> 1:38:59.240 phase out is seventy five thousand dollars for individuals and 1:38:59.240 --> 1:39:02.120 one hundred and fifty five dollars for joint filers. But 1:39:02.280 --> 1:39:04.519 you know that can be significant. There's going to be 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:08.040 continuing no tax on tips. Self played workers can deduct 1:39:08.080 --> 1:39:11.960 qualified tips. You know that the IRS deems customarily and 1:39:12.080 --> 1:39:15.640 regularly receiving tics tips. No tax on overtime. That's a 1:39:15.680 --> 1:39:18.600 big one. One that I'm interested in is the no 1:39:18.760 --> 1:39:20.360 tax and car loan interests. So if you bought a 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:22.960 car in twenty twenty five, it took out a loan 1:39:23.040 --> 1:39:25.639 to finance it. You can deduct up to ten thousand 1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:29.360 dollars on that loan interest, you know, to qualify, though, 1:39:29.400 --> 1:39:31.519 the car net needs to have its final assembly here 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:34.240 in the United States. But there is a phase out 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:36.000 there too, so if you have income over one hundred 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:38.360 thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars for joint filers, 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:42.080 you won't be eligible for that either. But you know, overall, 1:39:42.160 --> 1:39:44.400 there's a lot more opportunity out there, so if you're 1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:46.760 working with a financial advisor or a CPA, make sure 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:49.599 you inquire about some other opportunities for tax deductions. 1:39:49.680 --> 1:39:52.080 Yeah, fair enough, Andy Shaeff are all worth financial. Their 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:54.280 show simply money there is at six o'clock on fifty 1:39:54.360 --> 1:39:58.000 five KRC every weeknight. Andy checks in every Tuesday a 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:00.360 little cash money update this morning, dual, Well the best. 1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:03.280 We'll talk again in a week. Be well and stay warm, okay, 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:05.640 Scott you too, all right, appreciate it man. We have 1:40:05.760 --> 1:40:07.840 a news update coming up in just minutes. Latest what's 1:40:07.840 --> 1:40:10.280 going on in Minnesota of course, and closer to home, 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:12.559 of course, how we're fighting the severe cold right now, 1:40:13.640 --> 1:40:16.320 along with the snow removal efforts that continue I know 1:40:16.400 --> 1:40:18.400 Bill Cuningham is going to talk about that coming up 1:40:18.439 --> 1:40:20.960 in just a few minutes. 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