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Speaker 1: Caught it for forty six and yes, that's a call.

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Speaker 4: Down, back to pass Dax Drew.

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Speaker 3: Jacob and the Vikings have turned over the New York

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Speaker 4: Downs WOS.

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Speaker 5: Line say Hi, how is everybody good to see you?

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Speaker 3: Hi? Merry Christmas Ladies and gentlemen from the.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday Football.

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Speaker 3: What it's the football feast on Christmas Eve, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for coming out today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Nick Madden right here with his street team working on

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Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. We got j dub engineer extraordinaire. He's fresh

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Speaker 3: that wow silver bell, that's impressive, drummer boy and all

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Speaker 3: that Jared Wells, thank you. Alex Lewis from the Athletic

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Speaker 3: Ladies and Gentlemen Nordo from nine to noon, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Paul Allen. We came bearying gifts. Who wants a shirt?

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Speaker 3: Make a little bit of noise?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no makes as a team.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a non playoff here, but they won

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a heck of a catch right there, young lady.

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Speaker 4: Because three drinks were about ready to Topple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the there you go, come on back here,

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Speaker 3: there you go. Luke schwant touchdown. It's the Wednesday football Feast.

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Speaker 3: King's played tomorrow on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 6: Got a hairline fracture on that last throw. Hoop, very

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Speaker 3: Cow Tanner Morgan, former Golden Gophers quarterback, will be here

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Speaker 3: today at about eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say he's playing on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a possibility for some teams around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He'll be here at eleven. It's a Brosmer game. He's

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Speaker 3: dialed into Max Brosmer and quarterbacks through his quarterback motion,

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Speaker 7: I mean it's kind of crazy that we're gonna get

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Speaker 7: playoff lies. Pretty why if you'd have told me this

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Speaker 6: You know, the twenty seven yards to get to one

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Speaker 3: Nordo's just tackling Heinsey about ten forty five after after

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Speaker 3: Now, the Detroit Lions have passed at least one passing

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Speaker 6: But Flores, yes, I mean just deserves all the credit

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Speaker 4: It's true, exactly, It's true.

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Speaker 4: But Nordo's right, like, I'll.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's if the Vikings can find a way

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Speaker 3: Lions are eight and seven, Vikings are seven and eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're weird, caveats so weird. If the Vikings beat the.

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Speaker 6: So that's part one. Second one, you go and beat

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Speaker 3: So we can't beat the Lions and beat the Packers

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Speaker 4: No, no, we can't.

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Speaker 6: This is a tough situation, a bad situation, so in

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Speaker 2: At the RAF third play schedule.

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Speaker 4: I will say, like, I think it's a winnable game.

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Speaker 7: I would not be surprised and and I'm I might

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Speaker 7: I mean, their past defense does not blow you away.

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Speaker 3: Shane Zilstrow, with all due respect, New London, Spicer, Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: Both Dad, Yeah, I mean look I I but I

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Speaker 7: I talked to someone who works for the lines yesterday

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Speaker 3: That's Alex Lewis from the Athletic. His inclusion nine to

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Speaker 3: Mean, Christmas Eve football feast continues at Buffalo Wild Wings, Roseville.

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Speaker 2: Johnny h the Christmas Eve Feast. You made it. I

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Speaker 2: Can I steal a show for one second? Whatever you want?

445
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Speaker 2: I mean here two segments, brother if Gray Duck wherever

446
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Speaker 2: a friend. This win just had a great point. We

447
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Speaker 2: got it. We and serious.

448
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Speaker 8: Paul Wiggins. We lost Paul Wiggins this Wigan Wigan. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 8: Paul Wiggins.

450
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Speaker 2: Sorry.

451
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Speaker 8: Vikings semestery player, a longtime scout, great friend.

452
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Speaker 3: Grant the City Chiefs and Minnesota Vikings Immortality, Immortality, one

453
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Speaker 3: of the best, and lost him this week.

454
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I just want to make sure I referenced.

455
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Speaker 7: That someone told me that he was on he was coaching.

456
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Speaker 7: I believe maybe Stanford on the band is on the

457
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Speaker 7: field play. Yes, that is the someone told me that,

458
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Speaker 7: and I was like, Yeah, the Paul Wigan that I

459
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Speaker 7: see every day in the facility was on the Super

460
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Speaker 7: Time Man.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 3: God rest his soul now. Blake Cashman is all over you.

463
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Speaker 3: He's all over you right now. If you're not familiar

464
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Speaker 3: with what I'm talking about, let me let me explain.

465
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Speaker 3: Blake Cashman just had sixteen tackles against the New York Giants,

466
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Speaker 3: all right, cash He has two games this year with

467
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Speaker 3: sixteen tackles, one with fifteen I think fourteen against the Lions.

468
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Speaker 3: Blake Cashman has eight games this year in a single

469
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Speaker 3: season with at least ten tackles. That ties Chad Greenway's

470
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Speaker 3: team record for most games in a single season with

471
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Speaker 3: at least ten tackles. Cashman has two games left to

472
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Speaker 3: break that record, including one tomorrow with three point thirty

473
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Speaker 3: your thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Records are made to be broken, right, and he has

475
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Speaker 8: definitely earned that status this year with his activity.

476
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Speaker 2: And how good.

477
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Speaker 4: Oh that's the fast, gracious nature of five to two.

478
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Speaker 8: Well, I remember cash talking to Cashman when he was

479
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Speaker 8: still at the U and just you meet this kid,

480
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Speaker 8: You're like, you just pray and hope that kids like

481
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Speaker 8: that can make it and go carve out a career.

482
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Speaker 8: He goes over the Jets kind of finds his way

483
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Speaker 8: over here, and unbelievable, like the way he's been stabilizing

484
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Speaker 8: force both backers really, but he's been incredible and the

485
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Speaker 8: number he's put up, and he's going to have a

486
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Speaker 8: bunch of opportunities next two beaks to break that record.

487
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Speaker 2: I have no doubt that he will and into the season.

488
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Speaker 3: If you want to play this game, like, what would

489
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Speaker 3: you say was more least likely to predict Jalen Redman

490
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Speaker 3: has six sacks or Eric Wilson has sixteen tackles for loss?

491
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Speaker 4: Will sixteen tackles for loss?

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how I was so mad?

493
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, both sacks that got taken back

494
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Speaker 8: last week by these hits on the quarterback. What would

495
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Speaker 8: it if when Jackson Dart literally drops his head before

496
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Speaker 8: contact and runs into Wilson's face mask and all of

497
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 8: a sudden it flags everywhere. All of a sudden, the

498
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Speaker 8: laundry is not done, and that's on the field and

499
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Speaker 8: we have to deal with this Jackson Dart character, and

500
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Speaker 8: they're trying to protect me because he's got all these

501
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 8: concussions this year. And guess what, that's not our problem.

502
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Speaker 8: That's a Jackson Dart problem. And stop dropping your helmet

503
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Speaker 8: onto my helmet.

504
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Speaker 2: Police, So you're up, Oh.

505
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Speaker 8: My lord, I mean, how do you even play football?

506
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 8: Harrison Smith comes off the edge like it. It doesn't

507
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 8: make any sense to me in those instances. What's clearly

508
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 8: a football play, not an agree just hit. It can

509
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 8: it impacts end up game scenarios, impacts the game. Draws

510
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Speaker 8: me crazy because that takes away. Oh, by the way,

511
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 8: this guy we're trying to get paid, mister Eric Wilson,

512
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Speaker 8: a sack off of his resume, and that's what I

513
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 8: actually hated the most.

514
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Speaker 6: Well, secondly, it takes a stat off of the game

515
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 6: calling depth chart for Harrison Smith that PA's been trying

516
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 6: to use in a game I think all season with

517
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Speaker 6: the twenty one and a half sacks, and upset me

518
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 6: so much simply because this is cool.

519
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Speaker 2: Man.

520
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 4: I'm too, I'm old school, all right, old school, best school.

521
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Speaker 3: If Harrison, if he can get a sack in the

522
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Speaker 3: next two games, then there are two players in the

523
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Speaker 3: history of the NFL, Harrison Smith and Ronde Barber, with

524
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Speaker 3: at least thirty eight interceptions in twenty one and a

525
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Speaker 3: half sacks.

526
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Speaker 4: I think that kind of stuff's cool.

527
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Speaker 8: Rendez, But how many corner blitz did they send Ronde

528
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Speaker 8: Barber on good lord?

529
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

530
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Speaker 8: But you just took that stat away from Harrison, who's

531
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Speaker 8: let's be honest, he is Hall of Fame caliber, and

532
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Speaker 8: these types of stats matter when you lay things out, see,

533
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Speaker 8: but Harry has a dark side and and oh yeah, okay,

534
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Speaker 8: I think you know this because in the locker room

535
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Speaker 8: after the game, I walked up to him and said, man,

536
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Speaker 8: I mean they pulled that sack from you.

537
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Speaker 3: That's Ronde Barber, immortal. And he stopped. He's all tired

538
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: and exhausted and everything. He just looks at me and goes,

539
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: I didn't want it that way. I'm like, you are,

540
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: so you're darker than me, man, and I'm dark Holy.

541
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Speaker 8: Now, I thought you were talking about the fact he

542
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 8: texted me asking if I knew somebody that could break

543
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Speaker 8: some legs and ask for the referees address kind of like,

544
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 8: there's that side too.

545
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they may need that this weekend. We're going

546
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Speaker 3: to get into it a little more later. I thought

547
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Speaker 3: we were going to go the entire season without having

548
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Speaker 3: a game that involves an individual named Trey Blake.

549
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Speaker 2: All right, but no, he's gonna be He's very much

550
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: gonna be there tomorrow with you.

551
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Speaker 4: Oh boy, oh boy.

552
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Speaker 3: I wanted to save this until later. We'll talk more

553
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Speaker 3: about it later. He's an umpire these days. Why because

554
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: he got demoted? Why do you get demoted because you're bad?

555
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: I got to find the audio so we so we

556
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: can get into that a little later. Jack Greenway Gray

557
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: Duck Vodka, Grey Duck Spirits.

558
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Speaker 6: Do you think final two with Harrison Smith like winding

559
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Speaker 6: it down? If he knows it the I mean maybe

560
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 6: inside he knows it's the end, and then you have

561
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Speaker 6: that season, Like, what do you think those final two

562
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Speaker 6: games are like for number two two? What were the

563
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 6: final couple of games of your career kind of knowing

564
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Speaker 6: that you were going to close the shades on it.

565
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think for me personally, it was like we

566
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Speaker 8: had just had our fourth kid, like two weeks before

567
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Speaker 8: this moment, We had about a month left in the season,

568
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Speaker 8: and like in my mind that it was over, I

569
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 8: was already heading down that path, and I was just

570
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Speaker 8: embracing and joining every moment, having the kids and everything

571
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Speaker 8: I could have him at, like flying him into road trips,

572
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Speaker 8: taking the time, soaking it all in and knowing now

573
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 8: like my youngest two kids had no idea that even

574
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 8: played football, and you can it's even hard to YouTube

575
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Speaker 8: me now and.

576
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Speaker 2: Check that out.

577
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Speaker 8: But the reality I'm putting my highlights in later today,

578
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Speaker 8: it's just a little Christmas special, Christmas Eves special. Probably

579
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Speaker 8: do some like twenty twelve highlights, But but you think

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 8: about your career in a different way, and you think about,

581
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 8: like the struggle on the grind, how hardest to get there?

582
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Speaker 2: You make it?

583
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Speaker 8: You stick for eleven, you go the ups and downs,

584
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Speaker 8: the Dallas Cowboys, you know, pregame bit like you just

585
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 8: you mature through this career, become a captain like Harry's

586
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 8: been there, done that.

587
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Speaker 2: In every capacity.

588
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 8: He's he's an hof he's a ring of honor, and

589
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 8: he's earned every bit of it. And he's changed his game,

590
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 8: which I think is the most impressive part over the

591
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 8: course of his career to just kind of mold himself

592
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 8: into what he has to be.

593
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: Per coordinator per system.

594
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 8: And and that's what makes him so special is he's

595
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 8: not a one trick pony.

596
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Speaker 2: This guy can do everything.

597
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: Is it over for sure? You know what I'm saying.

598
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Speaker 3: He's a month ago. I mean I would have said

599
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 3: ninety percent. He's playing better right now. So then I

600
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Speaker 3: think he certainly the way he played towards the end

601
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Speaker 3: of last.

602
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Speaker 2: Year, I think that he's just that kind of guy.

603
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Speaker 8: He'll he'll probably trick everybody and come back for another

604
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 8: one and go go and make a Pro Bowl or

605
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 8: something crazy.

606
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Speaker 2: That's kind of the stuff he can operate and do.

607
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: It's just the way he.

608
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Speaker 4: Is, Like he doesn't want to go out.

609
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Speaker 7: I mean, the reason part of the reason came back

610
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 7: is ay, he loves playing with Brian Flores, So I

611
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 7: think that's a big part of his future will be

612
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 7: like what's that situation is flow back flow gives him

613
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Speaker 7: license to pretty much call it on the field a

614
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Speaker 7: lot of times. And then the other aspect is like

615
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 7: does he feel like the team has a chance to

616
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Speaker 7: win it? And that's why he That's the other aspect

617
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 7: of why he came back. And that's what, like I've

618
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: said many times, you feel for some people through a

619
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Speaker 7: season like this, and he's one of them who deserves

620
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 7: above all to be able to get I mean, not

621
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Speaker 7: be on the fan base, to get to a certain

622
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 7: spot that this team hasn't been able to get.

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Speaker 8: I think the one factor that I know factored in

624
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 8: for me was thinking about that training camp and that

625
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 8: offseason and then just the grind it takes. The grind

626
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Speaker 8: is not what it was when Harrison started his career.

627
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 8: He's not double days, he's not fully pads, he's not

628
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 8: full contact at practice most time he is, and it's

629
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Speaker 8: still hard to still the grind, but it's a different

630
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Speaker 8: kind of grind something you could manage now. Again, like

631
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Speaker 8: you have to look back his snapcount, his body, how

632
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Speaker 8: it's holding up. He does a great de making care

633
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Speaker 8: of his body. His snapcount is high. I mean he's

634
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 8: there on the field a ton this year. Yeah, and

635
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 8: he might be over a thousand snaps this season. He's

636
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 8: not already he will be probably, So think about doing

637
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 8: that at thirty three years old. You know he came in,

638
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 8: he came in at twenty three. He's got to be

639
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 8: thirty three, thirty four or I'm guessing.

640
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Speaker 6: Well, they can't take them off the field. I mean,

641
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 6: that's the one thing over time and what was it,

642
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 6: twenty two to twenty three Flores his first year is

643
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: kind of the I want to take some reps. Yeah,

644
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 6: keep some tread on the tire of number two two.

645
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 6: That's Flora Is saying that himself. And we're thinking about

646
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 6: you know, I think at the time you're looking at

647
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: final year, would you extend a cambine them? We love

648
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 6: what Mattelis can do in certain spots. He grinded through

649
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 6: his own health issues this year, but then he's still

650
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 6: playing ninety eight percent of the snaps hitman is well.

651
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 6: He can't take them off the field. That's the problem.

652
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: Whether it would be from the draft or what you've

653
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 6: put around. You can't remove Harrison Smith from this defense

654
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 6: and allow it and even ponder or fathom that it

655
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Speaker 6: will operate in the same capacity.

656
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think not knowing as contracts set up, but

657
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Speaker 8: I mean, knowing you come back for a one year

658
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 8: deal at whatever number. Harry might be like, yeah, I

659
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 8: could probably do one more at that number. Why wouldn't you,

660
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 8: you know? And that's the situation where he finds himself.

661
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Speaker 8: If you're playing fifteen snaps a game and they're paying

662
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Speaker 8: you like you're playing fifteen snaps a game. It's different

663
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Speaker 8: than when you're playing ninety eight percent of the game

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Speaker 8: and they're paying you like a starting safety. And that

665
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Speaker 8: does I mean, at the end of the day, like

666
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Speaker 8: not that it comes down to money. He's made a

667
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Speaker 8: bunch of it, but also comes down to make a

668
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Speaker 8: really good business decision.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, there's part of it too. I mean, yeah,

670
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Speaker 6: it's not all about the money for him at this stage.

671
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Speaker 6: But if they're like, you want to do one and

672
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Speaker 6: eight again, yeah, eight million dollars, he said.

673
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Speaker 2: No, but I'll do one for ten. Yeah.

674
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Speaker 8: I mean he can say that right now, and what

675
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 8: are they gonna say, no, will find somebody that can

676
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Speaker 8: replace you.

677
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, good luck, good luck with that.

678
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

679
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: And then there's a handshake and the ink is doted,

680
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: you know, I mean.

681
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Speaker 2: Yep, it's ten. Yeah, so that's fair.

682
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: Maybe I understated.

683
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 6: I'm understating the possibility before him comes back. I've fought

684
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 6: over the last six weeks, you know, at times kind

685
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 6: of ebbing and flowing some some you know, finishing tackles,

686
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 6: and I'm starting to say, like, okay, he kind of

687
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 6: looks like a guy that's played fourteen years. But with

688
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Speaker 6: what he's doing, I mean Flores deploying him the mind games.

689
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Speaker 4: His positioning is still tops, I mean elite.

690
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think he's athletic and fast enough still

691
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 8: to rely on his experience. It's gonna get him that

692
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 8: spot quicker because of just the film, the knowledge, the

693
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 8: understanding of a route concept, but not physically. He's still

694
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 8: good enough to you'll get it done. And that's the

695
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 8: most important thing is they have to rely on him

696
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 8: and they now see, okay, Like we're not gonna end

697
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 8: up seeing fully what a quarterback can do these last

698
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Speaker 8: couple of games because of injury.

699
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Speaker 2: Like, we have a lot of unknowns going to next year.

700
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Speaker 8: We could solve that problem again if he wants to

701
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Speaker 8: come back, but only he knows that only he knows

702
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Speaker 8: in his mind.

703
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to that grind again.

704
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, if you'd ask me five weeks ago, I

705
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 7: would have said no chance. And now just with the

706
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Speaker 7: way he's played, it's hard for me. I do want

707
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Speaker 7: to ask Chad, Like the defense we talked about in

708
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 7: the open hasn't given up a passing touchdown in six games.

709
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Speaker 4: Crazy for them to be doing this in a season

710
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: where you know like it's not going to the to

711
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Speaker 4: the postseason. How impressive is that to you?

712
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: Well, I looked at it.

713
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Speaker 8: My first thing was, well, yeah, but if for Roush

714
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 8: defense is that bad, I'd probably run it too. But

715
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Speaker 8: then then I thought back, said, no, this is my

716
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 8: favorite team, and you realize that that just in this league,

717
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 8: with these athletes and players and quarterbacks, how impressive that

718
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: really is. It's incredible And it shows like how you're

719
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Speaker 8: playing in the red zone holding team's teams of field goals,

720
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 8: or they are getting down there deep they are running

721
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 8: it in on you. But the reality is is that

722
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 8: they're not getting up the long play and not geting

723
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 8: up the big play, and in the red zone right

724
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 8: they're they're cutting down angles and making plays.

725
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Speaker 6: It's huge and oh well, but part of it too,

726
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 6: just thinking about it specifically in recent weeks. Now you

727
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 6: do have the Jackson darts, but in primetime, your ability

728
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 6: to mitigate the ced lamb, George Pickens, that juggernaut that

729
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: can be a freight train down in Dallas, and they've

730
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Speaker 6: been doing it with Jonathan Renard playing on one shoulder.

731
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Speaker 6: Mittellus done for the year, Another shoulder related issue. The

732
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Speaker 6: revelation that is a Jalen Redman, the jay Wards.

733
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Speaker 4: Of the world.

734
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Speaker 6: Really again, we've been doing a lot of lauding of

735
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Speaker 6: number two too, but really across the board, at every

736
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 6: level of that defense, you're seeing guys taking that extra step,

737
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Speaker 6: albeit in a in the seven win season.

738
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

739
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Speaker 8: I think when you see the sacks that you look

740
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 8: the Jaylen Redmond sacks, they're extended. They're not extended plays

741
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 8: per se, but they're covered sacks in the sense of

742
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 8: he's not beating one, moving going and getting downhill and

743
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 8: hitting the quarterback. It's like that second and hitch right,

744
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 8: he's on his second or third read covered covered sack coming.

745
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Speaker 8: And I think that's because Russian cover russ to work

746
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Speaker 8: together well.

747
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Speaker 6: And Dallas Herner was the one I think on Jalen

748
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: sack in New York that kind of forced start to

749
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Speaker 6: push up and then Redman just.

750
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Speaker 2: Doesn't stop again.

751
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Speaker 8: In turner right gets him off his first read because

752
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 8: he all of a sudden he feels the pressure. He's

753
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 8: got to look now, his eyes come down. Redman gets

754
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Speaker 8: him and that's a cover. That's a Russian cover deal

755
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 8: because I he can kind of his hand really quick,

756
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 8: because we're letting guys just run free.

757
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Speaker 2: You know it's not gonna work for our sacks.

758
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Speaker 7: You mentioned the quarterback situation. What was I guess going

759
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 7: through your mind when you saw that he was hurt again?

760
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Speaker 2: I was.

761
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Speaker 8: I was mostly upset because I want to see him

762
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Speaker 8: get these next two and I wanted to see in

763
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Speaker 8: these games where they got to have it and we're

764
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 8: trying to play wrecker, like how can he play in

765
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 8: those moments? And was really looking forward tomorrow because it's

766
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 8: it's primetime Christmas Day, everybody's watching, and he gets a

767
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 8: chance to rewrite that narrative quote unquote that's out there

768
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 8: maybe of him, of what do we have? And I

769
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Speaker 8: think the nation wants to see that. I know we

770
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 8: as a fan base wants to see it. And that

771
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 8: was I was upset. But at the same time, you

772
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 8: start to think about, okay, like injuries have now been

773
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 8: a part of his first year, first two years, losing

774
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Speaker 8: your whole first year, and I lose a bunch of

775
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 8: starts and really important starts. And I think the guys

776
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Speaker 8: are the most upset are his leadership because now like

777
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 8: you don't you're not gonna have a full deck of

778
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 8: cards to go make a decision off of, because you

779
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 8: just don't know what you have. You know, you have

780
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Speaker 8: some idea, but you've had some success, you've had a

781
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 8: lot of failure. What do we really have? What's the

782
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 8: decision we make for going forward? And I don't I'm

783
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Speaker 8: glad they're not. I mean, I would take their money

784
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 8: they're making, but I don't want to make that decision.

785
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Speaker 2: It's not the GM No, not easy.

786
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: It's I mean, that's the way I was thinking about it.

787
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 7: People a million people ask whether it's family, friends of like,

788
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 7: you know, what are they gonna do? What's It is

789
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 7: hard to find the path that is most sensible. Maybe

790
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 7: I don't know, Maybe it shouldn't be as hard as

791
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Speaker 7: it is.

792
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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I put it in the open.

793
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Speaker 6: Sadly is I'm super disappointed about this because effectively they

794
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 6: have two and a half games to say, yeah, this

795
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: is good and this is a platform to build from,

796
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: even under the you know, bright lights and soldier field.

797
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 6: Week one, it's chaotic, it's weird, it's three quarters of

798
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: what and then he comes alive, manufactures three tds and

799
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: he's the player of the week. But this two and

800
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: a half game stretch just simply isn't enough to truly

801
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 6: buy into that or go, you know whatever, the version

802
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 6: of all in. I mean, I think there's gonna be

803
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 6: some veteran presence. There was always going to be some

804
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 6: kind of transaction made to have a veteran support spot

805
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 6: behind him, But will it be behind him given the

806
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 6: short sample size.

807
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Speaker 4: So it's just a weird.

808
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Speaker 6: It's almost worst case scenario in some ways where you're

809
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 6: going in. You know it's not the worst, you know

810
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 6: it's not the best. I actually don't know what it is.

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Speaker 6: And that's problematic.

812
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Speaker 3: With the with the conversation point about McCarthy when he

813
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: went down on that sack.

814
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: All right, we got the finger, okay.

815
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: Brozmer came in, nice sideline pass to Jefferson, sold a

816
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 3: little hope there, and they won the game. I'm most

817
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: excited that JJ McCarthy came out of that hit in

818
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: what still alive? Yeah, I mean that was unbelievable how

819
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: hard Brian Burns hit him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I felt like it was maybe they should have

821
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 8: had a flag on that one and we should have

822
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 8: got fifteen yards back in the ball. Basim Broz comes

823
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Speaker 8: in based off that game bodyweight body weight landing on him. Yeah,

824
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 8: did you put your hand down to protect the quarterback?

825
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: Now, I will say even if he dirts that, because

826
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Speaker 6: that's what you look at the replay, it looks like

827
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Speaker 6: he was trying to get rid of it just before

828
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Speaker 6: and he fumbled it because his hand's broken. Very very

829
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Speaker 6: small hairline fracture by the way. But to that end,

830
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Speaker 6: I think he still gets popped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that part changes given the timing of that.

833
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 6: Even if he does get it loose, I think that's

834
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Speaker 6: within the frame. Brian Burns still gets a.

835
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Speaker 2: Shot at him. Yeah, Brian Burns is a creature.

836
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Speaker 1: Huh.

837
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: Yes, fifteen sacks who knew well.

838
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Speaker 8: The arms coming out of their shoulders. I'm like, how

839
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 8: long are his arms is playing the place? He's playing

840
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 8: the four for the Timberwolves last night. He had to

841
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Speaker 8: be out there. Unbelievable.

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843
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Speaker 3: us with Jack Greenway.

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Speaker 2: Five two.

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Speaker 3: our feature guest for a couple of segments. Alec with

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Speaker 3: Brian Flores, defensive coordinator for the Vikings.

854
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: His reportedly his deal is up at the end of

855
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 4: That would be correct.

857
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Speaker 3: Is there is there any steam or have you unveiled

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Speaker 3: anything where it's like they've tried to resign him and

859
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Speaker 3: maybe stiff arming it right now thinking about a head

860
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Speaker 3: coaching job or from a journalistic standpoint, because you're the

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Speaker 3: journalist of the quartet here, what do you know?

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Speaker 2: What can you share?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been an interesting one.

864
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 7: Brian Floores, with what he's done with the defense from

865
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 7: a production wise, you know, there's no question that he

866
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 7: deserves a new contract. He definitely wants to be a

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Speaker 7: head coach again. He hasn't like hi, he hasn't hidden

868
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Speaker 7: from he hasn't hit from that.

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Speaker 4: What's the right phrasing to use for that? I know

870
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: he wants to be a head coach again.

871
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 7: Obviously he has the legal situation within the NFL, and.

872
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Speaker 4: So we'll see. What I would say is I have no.

873
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Speaker 7: Real intel Slash expectation of what happens here. It seems

874
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Speaker 7: pretty clear with what he's done as the defensive coordinator

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 7: that the Vikings would want him back for what he

876
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 7: does for that defense. But we'll we'll just have to

877
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 7: see kind of how it plays out.

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Speaker 6: I kind of want to transition that to a question

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Speaker 6: with for you, Chad is in your career playing for

880
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: multiple defensive coordinators? Now, I mean Zimmer was the decordinator

881
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Speaker 6: and George Edwards, I'm sure he was awesome, but it

882
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Speaker 6: was Zimmer's defense. What is that like when you go

883
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 6: through maybe a scheme like I remember just how clearingly

884
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: things looked different.

885
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: From Donna Tell to Flores.

886
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 6: Certainly Leslie Fraser is like an hof human, but you

887
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: think about some tough years there, like it looked different

888
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: from Fraser's ten You're to Zimmer, like, what is that

889
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 6: like at the player level if you have to make

890
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 6: those sorts of scheme changes in an offseason?

891
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think when you have that big of a difference,

892
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 8: we went from Tomlin to Fraser.

893
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and then you stay in that Tampa two system.

894
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 8: It was Ben but don't break, sit back and zone

895
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 8: read and react, really good run defense and then all

896
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 8: of a sudden, you get Zimmer coming in, which is

897
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 8: a completely different system, more aggressive, more blitzy, more pressures,

898
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 8: more made a man out in the outside, need different corners.

899
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 8: So it's a personnel shift in personnel issues. But you're

900
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 8: in contracts, right, you can't get out of right in

901
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 8: that transition phase. I know it's in the middle of

902
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 8: my contract, and like they wanted to see something different,

903
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 8: and they asked me to take a pay cut, and

904
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 8: then all of a sudden it kind of became could.

905
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: I become something else?

906
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 8: I think as a professional, I liked it because I

907
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 8: was challenged one to my ninth season, like, hey, can

908
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 8: I do this?

909
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Become what from what?

910
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 8: Well, because I was I was drafted so I could

911
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 8: walk on the slot play Tampa two, jam that slot receiver,

912
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 8: fall back into coverage, and just sit in his zone,

913
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 8: read and react like Derrick Brooks missed that mark. They

914
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 8: didn't get the old Dereck Brooks right. But but all

915
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 8: of a sudden, now you're you're covered a pretty good one.

916
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad.

917
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 8: You cover, You're covering, uh, Manda Man tight ends, Manda

918
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 8: Man bax your pressure and you're you're you're making checks

919
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 8: to the line of scrimmage, your double a gap all

920
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 8: the time. Where we tried double a gap with Leslie

921
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 8: out in Washington playing the Redskins back then, that didn't

922
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 8: work out real good. So point being is like you

923
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 8: have to ask personnel that have in some cases really

924
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: experienced to change, And for me it was I'm gonna

925
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 8: take on more one on one blocks after shot and

926
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 8: shed myself rather being protected by Kevin Williams, Like can

927
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: I adjust and do that? Can I become a good

928
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 8: blitzer when my whole career I never was did blitz

929
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 8: at Iowa, didn't blitz my first eight year. Also, you

930
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 8: become a better blitzer, you better at getting off a

931
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 8: running back or a tight end. You understand leverage and

932
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 8: band a man defense better. I just think it's it

933
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 8: is a shift and no matter what happens, you know

934
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 8: we bflow and what he's done here from personality standpoint,

935
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 8: just because you realize that Harrison's playing because he wants

936
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 8: to play for him, to me, tells the story a

937
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 8: little bit right.

938
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: These guys like.

939
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 8: To play for him, they're fired up for him, they

940
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 8: want to do well for him, and he's done great

941
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 8: in different areas throughout his career here, you know, I

942
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 8: think I always think about this when you think about

943
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 8: head coaches and coordinators. You become a really good coordinator

944
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 8: and then for years then you get you get what

945
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 8: you get a head coaching job. And in most cases

946
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 8: those those coordinators want to stay coordinating because that's what

947
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 8: they know, they love. They lack trust to give it

948
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 8: to somebody else. To George Edwards, Zimmer was not going

949
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 8: to give that up. And I think in a lot

950
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 8: of cases, and you think about around the league and

951
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 8: how these head coaches have been in places for a

952
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 8: long time been successful. To me, the best way to

953
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 8: operate that is the CEO of the team, right, let

954
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 8: those coordinators work. And I don't know if Bflow is

955
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 8: the guy. He's an incredible coach obviously, and he did

956
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 8: a really good job as a head coach, But is

957
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 8: he better as a coordinator, I don't know. Well, but

958
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 8: if he wants the money, obviously, now we take that too.

959
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 6: Well.

960
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: Think about the recent hires, I mean, Brian Schottenheimer, Kellen Moore,

961
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Kevin O'Connell. I mean it's it's the hires

962
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: are of the offensive mind variety, elite defensive minds. Unless

963
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: I'm missing something obvious here Jonathan Gannon, I guess would

964
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: be one by McDonald. Mike McDonald that's another good one.

965
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: But still it's most teams.

966
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: You know.

967
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: They want to go to the owners of the teams

968
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: and say, look, we got this, We're going to bring

969
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: this in, this is going to go up. That leads

970
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 3: to more people wanting to come to games. And bottom line,

971
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: because offense selves so that I think that plays against

972
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: Brian Jail.

973
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: I think so too.

974
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 8: But when when you're putting it, if I'm leading an organization,

975
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 8: I want the best leader of men as the head coach,

976
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 8: regardless of their ex as o's. Now you might have

977
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 8: gotten that job because you already leaded ex's and o's,

978
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 8: dang it. But I like the fact that you can

979
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 8: manage the football team, the pulse of the team, the

980
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 8: culture of the team, manage all these egos that have

981
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 8: all these individual selfish wants and knees and can we

982
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 8: make a team out of them? And can we tow

983
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 8: the line there to meet Mike McDonald, the best thing

984
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 8: he does is lead his team. I don't care about

985
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 8: the ex's and no's. They want to play for him.

986
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 8: Look at Dan Campbell, did I mean you want to

987
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 8: play for that guy? You love that guy. He's like

988
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 8: another father to you, and you want to make him.

989
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 8: You want to make him proud, you want to do

990
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 8: right by him. That stuff matters to me as a

991
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 8: player more than anything you could do. Ex's and O's

992
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 8: is to get those guys to want to play for

993
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 8: you every snap, no matter what.

994
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: That's why I like with Kevin O'Donnell.

995
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 7: He was obviously the offensive mind, Sean McVay kind of disciple.

996
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 7: But what impressed I think you know has has impressed

997
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 7: up until this point with Kevin is his ability to

998
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 7: kind of galvanize the entire organization internally beyond just the

999
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 7: offensive play calling aspect. Like, I think it's interesting to

1000
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 7: hear you, you as a former player, say that, because

1001
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 7: I do. You watch the hiring every year and it's

1002
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 7: like teams just covet the the most hot, like offensive

1003
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 7: or defensive mind, and then you hear a former player

1004
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 7: be like, you want the guy you want to play

1005
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: for it.

1006
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: It's interesting.

1007
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: But Alex, Alex, we we work with media relations closely

1008
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: enough that you know that when they start talking these

1009
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: things out with general managers and owners and stuff. It's

1010
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: one thing that comes up is when you put this

1011
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: person in front of the media subsequently the public, it

1012
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: matters what are the stories going to what's going to

1013
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: resonate with the stories?

1014
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: And with Flores, it.

1015
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: Will be so and so hired Brian Flores as it's

1016
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: eighteenth head coach in the history of the team. Comma,

1017
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: we got two lawsuits with him and others against the NFL.

1018
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: That's going to be right below the lead.

1019
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 7: And the thing with Flores, and it's been documented many

1020
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 7: times and former players in Miami have talked about it,

1021
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: like Brian Flores likes to do it the Brian Flores way.

1022
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 7: He is a New England Patriots Bill Belichick, you know

1023
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 7: disciple that that is who he is. He is a

1024
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 7: you know, the identity that this defense plays with is physicality, violence, aggressiveness.

1025
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 7: Those are qualities that Brian Flores, you know, breeds.

1026
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: Into the team.

1027
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 7: And so to Chad's point earlier, the question if you're

1028
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 7: another owner is like, is that the guy as great

1029
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 7: of a defensive mind as he is and has been,

1030
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 7: is that the guy we want as the CEO type

1031
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 7: figure within the organization that that will be kind of

1032
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 7: a set.

1033
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 8: I think the most impressive hires that I've seen these

1034
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 8: last you know, four to five years, with a cycle

1035
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: kind of ramping.

1036
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Up and changing.

1037
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 8: Is is it somebody who changes the culture of the organization,

1038
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 8: Because when you're making a change, a really important changing

1039
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 8: and invested a lot of dollars in you know, Dan

1040
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 8: Campbell got some heck for his presser the start of

1041
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 8: the press conference, but like he laid down his foundation

1042
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 8: in that press conference of how my guys are gonna

1043
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 8: play and here's how we're gonna get it done. And

1044
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 8: when you have played in the NFL, well, you automatically

1045
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 8: get some clout from those players in the locker room

1046
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 8: because it is a you have to earn it type

1047
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 8: of league. And if you go out there and say, hey,

1048
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 8: this dude played, he's been in the trenches, he's done this.

1049
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 8: So when he says, guys, I know this is hard

1050
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 8: in training camp and it's day twenty five and you

1051
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 8: don't hit each other again, I know how hard this is.

1052
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 8: But believe me, if we do this, we're going to

1053
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 8: get to where we need to get to. We've been

1054
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 8: through hard times. We're going to galvanize this to come together.

1055
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 8: To me, that shifts the culture of the organization to

1056
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 8: a spot where hey.

1057
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: This is new.

1058
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 8: Let's now go get players that identified with that. And

1059
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 8: you know what, these are really talented players. They don't

1060
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 8: fit what we want to do. We don't want divas,

1061
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 8: we don't want these guys that don't think this way.

1062
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 8: And I think you sort of set a culture, which

1063
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 8: I think is lost in the world of coaching. Change

1064
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 8: shifting so fast you don't have a chance to build

1065
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 8: a culture. And of course I come from a college

1066
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 8: that has had a coach for twenty five years, but

1067
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: like the culture was set right when I got on campus.

1068
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 8: I think I was his parents this third year. This

1069
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 8: is how we operate, this is who we recruit. We

1070
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 8: can win with these guys, and yes we can get

1071
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 8: now we can get four and five star recruit but

1072
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 8: they don't always move the needle from a from a

1073
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 8: make your program better standpoint because they don't buy into

1074
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 8: the culture because that's all about them. And I think

1075
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 8: that still exists in the NFL world when guys want

1076
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 8: to go out and get checks and move on, or

1077
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 8: they want to stay and build something and be a

1078
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 8: part of something, to play for somebody that motivates them.

1079
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin was the best example. Yeah, when you come in.

1080
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 8: I came in O six the NFL. I'm like, what

1081
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 8: is this? This guy could break you down, build you up,

1082
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 8: and have you walk in through a brick wall, all

1083
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 8: within the same minute. With how he would watch films,

1084
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 8: say this, make a reference to something, have some like

1085
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 8: kirky urky like quip, and you'd be.

1086
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Like and he's like, and that's why we got you.

1087
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're like, yeah, you're right, and like, all

1088
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 8: of a sudden, like wait, what just happened? I think

1089
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 8: I got yelled at and called in the carpet from

1090
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 8: my teammates for not being certain like good enough, and

1091
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, no, I'm the best, and like

1092
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 8: they just have a weight about him.

1093
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: And he shifts the culture and won for two decades.

1094
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's why he sits down that interview and

1095
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 8: the rumors are like, oh, oh yeah, he had.

1096
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: I met with him.

1097
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 8: I was with him the night before he left for

1098
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 8: that interview, and he's like, oh, it's a it's a

1099
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Speaker 8: rune rule. I'm gonna go out to get the interview.

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Speaker 2: Come back.

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00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 8: Never dude, never came back, right, because how do you

1102
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 8: not hire that guy when he sets down right?

1103
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: It's impossible?

1104
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: Well, sad, so is that is it sustainable?

1105
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: Where the leadership or the culture of the team, because

1106
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 6: we talk about leadership and things right, and leaders can

1107
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 6: look it can either be the Tom Brady esque most

1108
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 6: important position, loudest voice in the room.

1109
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: It can also be.

1110
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 6: Understated, the linebacker or the defensive lineman, somebody that kind

1111
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 6: of drives the aura in a locker room. With the

1112
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 6: Minnesota Vikings, I would have to say in some ways

1113
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 6: like you appreciate justin Jefferson and those things.

1114
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but truly that.

1115
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 6: The cultural leader is actually the head coach who's not

1116
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 6: always in that locker room, and you you believe under

1117
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 6: the right circumstances that that is sustainable.

1118
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, And I think koc has guys in

1119
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 8: that locker room that he trusts that he's meeting with

1120
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 8: on the side to say, how's the locker room, Brian o'no,

1121
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 8: Blake Cashman, Harrison Smith, these guys that are maybe more

1122
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 8: understated that are really driving the culture of how people

1123
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 8: oper right. And I always thought it shifted for me,

1124
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 8: like year five to six in that range when all

1125
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 8: of a sudden, you get a second contract and kids

1126
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 8: that are coming in that are twenty one twenty two

1127
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 8: like that I have no connection to other mean teammates

1128
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 8: with them are coming to me asking for advice because

1129
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 8: they're like, Hey, this dude's been there, he's done that,

1130
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 8: he's experienced all this. He's got to a second contract.

1131
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: How do I go get what he has? And if

1132
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 8: I'm saying, hey, here's how we do it. We show

1133
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 8: up early, we stay late, we get the extra workouts in,

1134
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 8: we help our teammates along. Like if you're bringing that

1135
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 8: culture along with the right guys, a the organization wants

1136
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 8: to keep guys like Blake Cashman, Brian on youal for

1137
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 8: that reason, but also like you're bringing the culture along

1138
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 8: of these young kids that are going to impact your

1139
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 8: organization long term, who are young and talented, and you

1140
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 8: have to have help you immediately as a rookie now

1141
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 8: because you can't let these guys wait.

1142
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, the.

1143
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 3: Enclosing the Great the Lions from the Washington Playoff loss

1144
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: last year through right now is such a fascinating dichotomy

1145
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 3: of empowering others and counting on them. Ben Johnson, Aaron

1146
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: Glenn three other coaches at least that they lost too

1147
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: left because in that Washington game. Okay, the Lions were

1148
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: super banged up into the year last year. Well they're

1149
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 3: super banged up right now and it was worse last year.

1150
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: But they found a way to win that Week eighteen

1151
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: game and get the one seed. Get the time off.

1152
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: What happens during the time off, office doors closed, people

1153
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: talking to agents, agents talking to teams about what's coming

1154
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 3: up next. Look what we're doing here. That's a distraction.

1155
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: It absolutely happened. And those coaches left and they missed them.

1156
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: So now they move into this year and they have

1157
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: a new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator John Morton. Well

1158
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: that was such a bad hire that Dan Campbell stripped

1159
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: the man of his play calling after the Vikings beat

1160
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 3: him no November second, Campbell took the play he calls

1161
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: the games now. They never run trick plays. They're down

1162
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 3: their tight end ends and they missed their tight ends.

1163
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 3: But so much has change. You got the same CEO

1164
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: and you have the same employees, but those underneath the CEO,

1165
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: you know, with the coaches and stuff like that, there

1166
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: is some form of a disconnect here that has them

1167
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: at eight and seven, and and that plays into the

1168
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: culture You're.

1169
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 8: Think Van Campbell now can't be that CEO, that risk taker,

1170
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 8: that fourth down guy could right, he's trying to make

1171
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 8: the next play call all of a sudden, he's not

1172
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 8: talking to the guy the uh, the risk assessmentmore right,

1173
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 8: he's not talking to that guy in between you know,

1174
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 8: snap counts or when the off when the OC is

1175
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 8: making a play call. Hey, what do you see next?

1176
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 8: What do you think here? Give me fourth and two

1177
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 8: from the forty eight? What's what are the percentages? Tell

1178
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 8: us you're run out of time because you're thinking about

1179
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 8: the next play call.

1180
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: You know what?

1181
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 8: Hey, you know what's it's fourth and two. We're punting.

1182
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 8: We'll get rid of the balls, get you on our defense.

1183
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1184
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 8: He can't be the same guy he was with the

1185
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 8: staff that left and now you know and look at

1186
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 8: the impact.

1187
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: What are the Bears done?

1188
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 8: Obviously with that OC, he's clearly special and as munch

1189
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 8: As he has a bunch of talent there too, which helps. Yeah,

1190
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 8: But the point is is Campbell can't be that same guy. Yeah,

1191
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 8: to be that culture driver he's got he's wearing too

1192
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 8: many hats.

1193
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: I have a quick little trivia thing for you that

1194
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to leave on the preparation cutting room floor.

1195
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: Your first road game in two thousand and seven was

1196
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: at ford Field, all right, so Chack Greenway's first game

1197
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: was at home against Atlanta. They beat the Falcons. First

1198
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: road game Ford Field, Week number two. Vikings lose in

1199
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 3: overtime twenty to seventeen. Amazingly, two of the most reliable

1200
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: kickers in the last twenty to twenty five years, Jason

1201
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: Hanson and Ryan Longwell, they each missed game winning kicks

1202
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: with less than a minute to go. Hanson missed from

1203
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: like forty eight, long Well from fifty two. You go

1204
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: to overtime, Hanson walks off. There were four quarterbacks who

1205
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: played in that game, two for each team.

1206
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: Can you name them? Seven? Vikings and Lions.

1207
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: Your first road game, your quarterback almost went the distance,

1208
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: got hurt late. Backup came in their quarterback, same thing.

1209
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: He got into the second half, but then the backup

1210
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 3: had to come in.

1211
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 8: Oh seven, Oh jack, that was your starter, Tavars Jackson,

1212
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 8: Bollinger whole Bollinger came in very late.

1213
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: What about the Lions.

1214
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: Kelly Holkm was on that Who's they start, who the

1215
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: Lions start?

1216
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: Not Sean Hill, Nope, he came in, Nope, what's his name?

1217
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: Jock, Yeah, Jack Ki John John kitt and and could

1218
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: sling that thing man?

1219
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1220
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he got knocked out. J. T. O'Sullivan

1221
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: came in. J T.

1222
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 8: O'Sullivan four. Yeah, Okay, hey let's go and we lost.

1223
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you that, I'm gonna tell you this

1224
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: right now that I will give you one hundred dollars

1225
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: and you don't have to give me anything if you

1226
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: can name the two running backs the Detroit Lions jews

1227
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: that day.

1228
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. I mean, I I think I've heard

1229
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: one of them.

1230
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, no shot, I was gonna gues well,

1231
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna guess I think it's Kevin Smith.

1232
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: Didn't they have a now?

1233
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 2: Smith been a good guest that had been the next

1234
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: couple of years.

1235
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: Tatum Bell and Brian Calhoun.

1236
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 8: Oh Calhoun, Wisconsin. Those guys, where did Tatum Tatum Bell?

1237
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 8: Though that's familiar, I'm gonna say, Oklhama State. I know, hey,

1238
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 8: Merry Christmas to you and your family. Merry Christmas straightway?

1239
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: How about that?

1240
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: But your radio Cassie trying to run him down.

1241
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 3: That's Jack Greenway Weekly nine to now at the Friday

1242
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: Football Feast. We're a week from Friday. We're a Buffalo

1243
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: Wild Wings egan. That'll be our final feast for the season.

1244
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: We head into the second hour with a fantasy football

1245
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 3: twist when we return to Buffalo Wild Wings Roseville at

1246
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