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Speaker 1: Here at fifty about krc DE talk station, still trying

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Speaker 1: close to on top. Christopher Smithman, my dear friend, my brother,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning show, and I appreciate your willingness

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Speaker 1: to call in today, and I want to apologize to you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're on the program every week. I do

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Speaker 1: everything I can to try to help you out, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that your presence on my program didn't have

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Speaker 1: any impact on the outcome of the election.

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Speaker 2: Sir, well, first, let me say thank you for giving

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Speaker 2: me a voice and an opportunity to reflect on last

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Speaker 2: night's results. I really want to just start with conceding

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Speaker 2: the election so I didn't win. I think it's important

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Speaker 2: for all of those citizens who voted for me, who

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Speaker 2: the good of the city. It's important that you know

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Speaker 2: at the end of election, whether you win or you lose,

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Speaker 2: that you always do it with class. And so this

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Speaker 2: is my public statement with you a friend on the

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Speaker 2: station that I come on every Monday at seven twenty

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Speaker 2: the future. So the results are not what I've wanted

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Speaker 2: them to be, and anytime you don't win, it's difficult,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to move forward. And what I will

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Speaker 2: also say is that you know, elections have consequences, and

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Speaker 2: I'm betting on you know, I'm betting on the city.

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Speaker 2: I want the city to be positive. That's why i

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Speaker 2: have my name on the ballot. And I'm still as

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Speaker 2: you do, Brian Thomas, every week, every day you're here

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Speaker 2: promoting Cincinnati. You want the best for Cincinnati. You clearly

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Speaker 2: you know, even though I did not support this mayor

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Speaker 2: did not support the majority of this council, the people

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Speaker 2: who have spoken and and I'm gonna support them just

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Speaker 2: like I would want them to support me. Or support

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Speaker 2: any other person who was elected at the federal, state,

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Speaker 2: and local level. That's what that's what you do when

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Speaker 2: you put your name on the ballot and and you're running.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, you know, my my concerns remain the same.

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. I'm worried about the crime. I mean, seven

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Speaker 2: people last weekend were shot. That's reality, four of them downtown.

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Speaker 2: I feel terrible for the citizens of OTR and Mohawk

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Speaker 2: with them all Fountain Square. You just can't have people

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Speaker 2: shooting on Fountain Square. So the nine people that were

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Speaker 2: elected in this mayor nothing has changed. They're going to

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Speaker 2: have to come up with a better plan in order

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Speaker 2: If people don't feel safe in the core, Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm exaggerating. They're not going to come

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Speaker 2: want to be a force, you know, of reason and

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Speaker 2: I don't want also don't want to be a hypocrite,

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Speaker 2: that's not who I am, So I am. I remain concerned,

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Speaker 2: and I hope that the team that the citizens of

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Speaker 2: last night. I certainly will offer my support to all

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Speaker 1: Do you expect okay of late And I will emphasize

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Speaker 1: it's only been recently, and I've made this comment quite

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Speaker 1: not Obviously that was a real issue in the race.

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Speaker 1: He started moving towards supporting police. He turned the idea

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Speaker 1: He did take at least some of the existence offered

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Speaker 1: anything at least on the topic of crime that he

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll know in the next week. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: not going to take a long time. I think an

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Speaker 2: and he's on the right track. That's what I believe.

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Speaker 2: He got the council that he wanted. He won, you know, decisively,

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Speaker 2: his his mamurial race, and I think he is affirmed

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Speaker 2: in his in his tenure, he's a tenured member of

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Speaker 2: he's more empowered than ever to do whatever his agenda

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Speaker 2: You know, is he going to make a public statement

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Speaker 2: wait a week. Four people were shot right across the

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Speaker 2: reassure us that he has learned something. I'm not the mayor.

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Speaker 2: I will say, We're going to know in the next

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Speaker 2: I want. I want to say, Man, I have I

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Speaker 2: and I don't I don't want them to give up,

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Speaker 2: right I I live in the city of Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 2: continue to bet on on Cincinnati. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: open checkbook. As things go in the direction, We're gonna know,

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, whether that happens or a doesn't. But I

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Speaker 2: I'm still betting yes on on Cincinnati, and that's what

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Speaker 2: we're all going to have to do in order to

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Speaker 2: move our our city forward. That's really really important. These

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Speaker 2: losses are tough. I mean, people were very emotional about

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Speaker 2: next day in our city to make it better. I

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Speaker 2: think you asked one of the most profound questions. Has

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Speaker 2: this mayor learned anything? We're gonna know in the next week. Right,

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Speaker 2: if he goes, if he starts going to roll calls,

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Speaker 2: doing ride alongs of going after the recruitment, we've got

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Speaker 2: still hundred and eighty two hundred officers and drop. Your

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Speaker 2: about retention of those officers, if he's not about bringing

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Speaker 2: cutting and really rolling up your sleeves and saying we've

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Speaker 2: got to attack crime. We're not gonna coddle criminals, right,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna think about those who are living and want

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Speaker 2: to live in a safe city. And it's a non

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Speaker 2: partisan issue, like safety is not something whereas Democrat or

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Speaker 2: Independent are Republican. Everybody deserves to be safe. And I

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Speaker 2: think for members of councilor who might be listening, or

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Speaker 2: is your number one response to ability is keeping us safe.

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Speaker 2: Everything else falls under that. And I ran on that,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I would be doing today. And I

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Speaker 1: Amen to that all day long. Let me ask you this, Christopher,

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Speaker 1: because voter turnout, Man, this was such an important election

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Speaker 1: for the city. So many issues, I mean, the whole

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Speaker 1: That was a critical issue. Everybody was talking about, the

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Speaker 1: I mean, lots and lots of really important things that

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Speaker 1: What do you got eight percent of the two hundred

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Speaker 1: six one thousand show up. Why is that? Is it apathy?

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Speaker 1: Is it ignorance? Christopher? That just drives me crazy because

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Speaker 1: I've voted in every election since I've been able to vote.

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Speaker 2: I think it's apathy. I think that the two party

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Speaker 2: system has us very focused, hyper focused on national elections.

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Speaker 2: Is where they spend their money. It's where they do

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Speaker 2: their voter get out campaigns. You'll see that next year

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Speaker 2: in the two year election. Oh yeah, when Congress is

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Speaker 2: fighting overseas, you won't There'll be so much money spent

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Speaker 2: you know, as these two parties fight it out in

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Speaker 2: So the answer to your to your question is you

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Speaker 2: and I understand that local elections are probably the most

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Speaker 2: important election, the one we had last night, But the

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Speaker 2: the presidential election. We as citizens have to understand politics

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Speaker 2: are local and yesterday's election was the most important election

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Speaker 2: in life because it impacts their daily life. They're trash

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Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, citizens don't connect with that because

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Speaker 2: They liked holding the power and controlling it. The mayor says,

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Speaker 2: I have the mayor's office, I have all nine members

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Speaker 1: Because of course we all understand the whole concept of

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Speaker 1: seeps throughout all of them. He's going to get all

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Speaker 1: The teachers' union also benefits from from the government of

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Speaker 1: So you can count on that, I'd say twenty five

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Speaker 1: You can see it, you can sense it, you can

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Speaker 2: It is I and I tell you, I really want

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw their literature everywhere. You know,

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Speaker 2: elections truly have consequences. But my love and my respect

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Speaker 2: Democrats made this about MAGA because they wanted to divide us.

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of marginalized him by saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: if we're thinking logically, right, electing a mayor whose brother

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Speaker 2: Meaning at the end of the day, I need the results.

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Speaker 2: We've got black and brown people killing themselves on a

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Speaker 2: from city Hall. And what what Corey Bowman was offering

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Speaker 2: it's really difficult to complain. You know, you voted for

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Speaker 2: And it's really hard to put your name on a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the face of the tremendous uphill challenge he

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Speaker 1: and will be talking on Monday, right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We will be talking on Monday. Brother, if you'll,

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Speaker 2: if you'll, if you, if you will have me, if you.

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Speaker 1: If you said I'm not doing it anymore, you would

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Speaker 1: break my heart. Monday seven twenty the Smither event. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, Christopher. Thanks for calling in. Bless you taking care,

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Speaker 1: condolences on the loss. You should be at the top

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Speaker 1: of the list. God bless you. Eight twenty two Station

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