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Today 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official Home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: All right, here we are, let's get it started. 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: The Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: Thanks as one to our friends at Skyline Chili. More importantly, 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: thank you for listening on the Home of the Bengals, 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Or maybe you're listening 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: via the iHeartRadio app. If so, head to that microphone. 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: Leave us a talkback. We'll get to your talkbacks an 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: hour number two today. Listen Fridays. It's about the sports, 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: it's also about you, the listener. Your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine, 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. Your talkbacks here's what I want to know today, Austin. 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: We'll go as much sports as we need to cover. 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: We're in on Monday of next week, you and I 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: and then we are off the rest of the week 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: or I'm off the rest of the week. I don't 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 3: know if are you off the rest of the week. 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: We're off Tuesday because of Kentucky basketball. 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, I'll be on the air Tuesday 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: evening for the Bengals Roundtable show. 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: But on this show after that? No, okay, so we 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: will not be on this show. We have today Monday, 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: and we have Monday. So what I want to know 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: from you the listener, what's your Cincinnati sports Christmas wish? 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. You only get one. So it 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: could be a bear Cat wish, it could be a 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Xavier wish, it could be a Bengals wish. It could 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: be an FC Cincinnati wish. It could be a Red's wish. 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Maybe it could be something else. But what I want 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: to know today is what is your Cincinnati sports Christmas wish? 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: Maybe it's this show going to four hours, Maybe you 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: want more of since E three to sixty. Whatever it 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: may be, let us know that today our phone lines 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: are open. We could talk about whatever you want. We 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: could talk Bengals. This is an open platform for you, 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: the listener, as it is each and every day. Charlie 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: Goldsmith stops by at one o'clock, Bob Manjean joins us 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: at two o'clock. We've got Read and React, we've got 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: our weekly pick him segment. Of course, we have talkbacks 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: and in between all of that, plenty of time for you. 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: And since E three to sixty, let's start with Thursday 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: Night football last night Austin. Many are asking, many are 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: wondering game of the year last night. 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't know from here now, Michaels. But yeah, 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: it was a great. 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: Game, Michaels. Again, a put returns a big deal, my goodness. 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: To Puka catch to send them over two hundred yards 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: and take the lead in overtime. That's kind of a 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: big deal. Big nice catch, don't. I don't like you 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: piling on all that, but god, Lee, buddy, can we 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: get some excitement going on? More people are piling on 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: now as well. I mean, well, I'll admit, like right 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: now I'm feeling sleepy. Sure, I don't have the same 60 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: energy that I would normally have, but I'm gonna give 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: it my all right to juice it up a little 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: bit here on a Friday football frenzy. I need that 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: same energy from al. But I had a blast watching 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: that game. I had no problem sacrificing some sleep to 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: watch the end of it. I thought it was amazing 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: the difference in Jackson Smith and jigbuff from the first 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: half to the second half. Goodness, and how the Seahawks 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: were able to move him around and get him involved. Specifically, 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield. Sam Darnold could have shriveled up, 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: could have went away, could have started seeing ghosts, could 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: have got mono. He said no, I'm gonna keep throwing 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: that football and made some big time throws down the stretch. 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: The two point conversion was one of the craziest things 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. It was just a highly entertaining game. 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: And I told you before the show, I like it 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: when Seattle's good. I love that stadium, I love that atmosphere. 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: I think that team is is fascinating. It was awesome 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: last night. 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: You would have thought going into that game, two pretty 80 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: good defenses, defensive battle. No Seahawks win it. Thirty eight, 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: thirty seven in overtime. How about this five hundred and 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: eighty one yards of offense for the Rams, four hundred 83 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: and fifteen yards of total offense for the Seattle Seahawks. 84 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold overcomes two interceptions in the game. It was 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: not without controversy. If you followed along last night, a 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: two point conversion attempt by the Seattle Seahawks essentially becomes 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: a backward pass, hits off a Rams defender, Ricochet's into 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: the end zone. Zach Charbonay picks it up. They're calling 89 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: it the Zach wardz pass. Yeah, I mean like officials 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 3: had blown the play, called incomplete pass, like the teams 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: were getting ready for the ensuing kickoff, and next thing 92 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, they review it and they put the points 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: back on the board. I'm with Sean McVeigh, I get 94 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: the right. Cod've never seen anything like it transpire. Yeah, insane. 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: This is my biggest problem with the the NFL and 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: with their officiating, it is that it is so profoundly 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: inconsistent that sometimes you'll get, you know, a buzz in 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: from New York. Sometimes you won't. Sometimes we don't know 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: until after a commercial break what somebody is thinking. Now. 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Credit to Terry McCauley on the broadcast with Prime last night. 101 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: He was all over it from the very beginning and explained, 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: you know how it's a little bit of a different 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: rule when it's a backwards pass the whole nine yards, 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: and it was I just wish and I've said this 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: many times. I know Albert Breer has posted and written 106 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: about this. They need to strip officiating all the way 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: down to the studs and kind of restart and determine 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: what can be when the sky judge can be involved 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: and when it can't. Number One, I think we need 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: a sky judge for everything. If we can get the 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: call right, then get the call right. Let's do it quickly. 112 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Last night it took a little bit longer than anybody expected, 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: but I think I think the right call was made 114 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: and ultimately that's what mattered. Sean McVay wasn't happy, but 115 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: he just didn't benefit this time. 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Poka Nakua twelve catches, sixteen targets, two hundred and twenty 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: five yards, two touchdowns. 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: Strange week for Puka. Crazy with the puka, he is 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: a monster. 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba had eight catches for ninety six 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: yards and a big touchdown. Kenneth Walker ran it over 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: the century mark at one hundred yards. Like I said, 123 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: it was just a fun football game. What makes it 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: even more fun, Austin is it's two really good football 125 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: teams that are going to be playing in the postseason, 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: and last night they just happened to come from the 127 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: same conference in the NFC West, the same division and 128 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: give Seattle a heads up now in that division and 129 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: a path to be the number one seed. 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: That is a big win. 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: That's what I like the most, the stakes being at 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: the highest, Both teams played at such a high level, 133 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: both coaches coached at a high level. That was just awesome, 134 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: awesome football to watch last night. I hope, I hope 135 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: it's a small snapshot into what the rest of Week 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: sixteen is going to be in the National Football League 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: starting tomorrow night. Eagles Commanders at five, Packers Bears at eight, twenty. 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: Other news happening across the sports world. Do you have 139 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: any interest at all, Austin and Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua, No, 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: I don't know who. I don't those are boxers. No, 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: they're boxing this week? What about I don't I don't 142 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: care about boxing. All right, do you not really? Okay, 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: not really? 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: What about the World Baseball Classic? What about it? They 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: have now added Tarik Skuball to the roster. Who's they 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: The United States? The US? Okay, how about US is rotation. 147 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 3: You're gonna get Scuoball, Paul Skins, Matthew Boyd, Garrett Whitlock. 148 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: They better not lose. 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: You also get Joe, Ryan Logan, Webb, Clay Holmes, Mason Miller. 150 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean they are loaded loaded at pitching for the 151 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 3: World Baseball Class. 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen any clarification on I 153 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: was thinking that as well. I don't know. I know 154 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: Ellie has been posting some some some videos of him 155 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: back home. It looks like in the dr and he's 156 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: playing baseball and you know, taking live pitches and stuff 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: like that. So I don't know if he's still part 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: of a rehab program or what. But you know, I 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: go back to what Charlie told us last week, the Reds. 160 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: It's not something the Reds would do, so just kind 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: of kind of weird what's going on there? 162 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, college football bowl games are underway. They need to 163 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: throw the talent in right now in Myrtle Beach, well, 164 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: like this is just the myrtle beach ball, so waste 165 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: of everybody's time. There is seven minutes and thirty eight 166 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: seconds left in the second quarter and the Broncos from 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: Western Michigan lead Kennessas State thirty four to nothing. Now, 168 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't have the game on in here. I would 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: imagine there's probably not a huge crowd. 170 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't really tell me Ano they're on 171 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: the teal turf over there Coastal Carolina. But yeah, thirty 172 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: four to nothing, I mean action, you know what it is? 173 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of action, there was a coach getting some action 174 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: at the uh Boy Ohio in or whatever called oh 175 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: you Yeah coach, what's his name? Brian Smith? Not good. 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: They determined that he was in a relationship with an 177 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: undergraduate student at O you And they're trying to say 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: that well, because divorce was already going through, it's no 179 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: big deal. But they're like, you can't work at the 180 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: school and have a relationship with a student. 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: Man, coach does not understand that, like, stuff like this 182 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: will will come out, it will come to light. 183 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: I just it's I don't so Ohio's in your pants? 184 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: Man Ohio cited officially extra marital affairs and alcohol use 185 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: in the firing of head coach Brian Smith. 186 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: Now my question is extra marital affairs. How is that 187 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: like a violation of your job's battlest I don't know. 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: It's one thing if you're like the pastor of a church, 189 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: you're the head coach of a football team. I don't 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: know that that's the reason to be I don't know 191 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: the fact that it's said is extra. 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: Marital affairs, including one with an undergraduate student. So maybe 193 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: there were multiple affairs happening. 194 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: But see there's something going on with someone who works 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: in the football. 196 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: The university president said it brought scandal and ridicule to 197 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: the program, which violated his employment agreement. 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, because nobody knew what 199 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: was going on until yesterday. That's true, So maybe internally 200 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: there was scandal and ridiculed the department. I don't know 201 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: there were I did think that our buddy Mo made 202 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: a great point, which is football coaches often tell you 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: how hard they work and how little they see their families. Well, 204 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: these guys have been finding ways to spend time with 205 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: other people. 206 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now there were reports that this coach showed up 207 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: at A an appearance smelling strongly of alcohol and intoxicated 208 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: and demeanor. He pushes back and said he was never 209 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: drunk at A at A. I mean, so it's it's again, 210 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: he said. She said, who knows a lot going on? 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: But uh Ou is without a football coach, and right 212 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: now it would seem like Kennessall State's without one as well. 213 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: Thirty four nothing, but don't worry. Don't worry. It'll get 214 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: better for bowl season. 215 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: This is thirty the Myrtle Beach Bowl, presented by Engine. Yep, 216 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: you say, who's engine? My engine? Who's the fire? Engine? 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: Couldn't tell you? Like engine, Well, don't worry because at 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: two thirty you get the Union, Hole, Mortgage, gas, Parilla Ball. 219 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: Don't care Memphis, NC State couldn't care less. What about 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: tonight though, the first round of the college football playoff. 221 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm mildly interested in Norman, Oklahoma, Yeah, Oklahoma? 222 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: Who do you want to win that game? Oklahoma? Really? Yeah? Okay? 223 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: I could? I mean, I don't. I don't really have 224 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: a reason. Miami, Texas A and m Tallane Old Miss 225 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: James Madison, Oregon. The other first round of the college 226 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: football playoff games happened tomorrow. We'll touch on those games 227 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: as well when we get to our pickum segment today 228 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: in our number three, pick them for now we've got 229 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: Is that so what it's called? 230 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Pick them? Yeah? For now. 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens now three. I'll throw your name 232 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: on that too, Mike, we'll throw a name on it today. 233 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure interesting. Jamar Chase made some comments yesterday. We've 234 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: got some injury updates happening right now Bengals practice, and 235 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell wrote about some NFL head coaching vacancies or 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: possible vacancies. We'll dive into all of that in our 237 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: number one, along with read and react in your phone 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: calls five, one, three, seven, fifteen thirty. It is the 239 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Friday Football Friends on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 240 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: This week, the Bengals and Dolphins meet up in Miami 241 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: for a South Beach showdown. Speaking of the beach, my 242 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: swimsuit of choice is a speedo European style. I don't 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: like those pesky dead lives. 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As we 254 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: roll along, we'll get phone calls. We'll do a little 255 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: read and reacting now number one as well. Right now 256 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: Austin practice happening or just getting over at the practice 257 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: fields at pay Course Stadium. Do we have any injury 258 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: updates to report on? 259 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: We do. 260 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, talking with the media on the way off 261 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: the field at the Bengals practice bubble, says that Joseph Osai, 262 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,479 Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins, Noah Fant, and Charlie Jones are all out 263 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday. Oh, Chris Jenkins will go to IR, ending 264 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: his season with his ankle injury he suffered late in 265 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: the game against the Ravens. Meanwhile, bj Hill practiced for 266 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: the first time this week. He will play in Miami, 267 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: as will Shamar Stuart so Stuart will be activated off 268 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: the ir and play against the Miami Dolphins. T Higgins 269 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: is listed as questionable. He is still in the protocol. 270 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: There's one more hurdle for him to clear. According to 271 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. So Higgins listed as questionable and Osai is 272 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: an ankle correct. Osai is an ankle as well, I believe. 273 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: Now this obviously just from a football dynamic standpoint, Osai 274 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: has been, alongside Miles Murphy, their most productive lineman over 275 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks. Sure, going up against a 276 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: quarterback making his first starting Quinn Yours, this is substantial 277 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: for the Bengals because that makes life a little bit 278 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: easy on yours for Sunday. 279 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it does. But at the same time, 280 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, can we put Shamar Stewart out there 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: for every single snap? Probably probably not, you know, the 282 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: coming off of an injury, but opportunity for him to play. 283 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: That's part of the story of the rest of this 284 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: season is evaluating those players on defense and that dude 285 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: needs snaps. How much can he change the thought about 286 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: this defensive line with a strong three weeks. I don't 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: know that it changes much at all about the defensive line. 288 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: But you know a guy like Jerry Montgomery, the defensive 289 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: line coach, can he you know, break through with something. 290 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Can can he you know, take something from what Shamar 291 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Stewart does that they can build on in the offseason 292 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: and all that stuff, Like, he's got to show something. 293 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if he's just if he's non existent in 294 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: three weeks and in three straight games, that is a 295 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: huge issue going into next year. 296 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Yeah, he's already an issue. 297 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: And even if he plays like Miles Garrett over the 298 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: last three weeks, I don't think we want to overreact 299 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: to that. 300 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: We feel a little bit better than where you're at now, 301 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: right right, I mean, because if I don't, let's face it, 302 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: he goes out there with no SI, plays meaningful snap 303 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Sunday and you don't notice him. That's an issue, sure, 304 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: even more of an issue than what this season has been. 305 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, at least from coach speaks standpoint, I think 306 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: said all the right things. Yesterday he was asked about 307 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: the front office and the coaching staff. He said, quote, 308 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: I feel great about them. I've got a great bond 309 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: with the staff. He was asked to expand on why 310 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: the Bengals get so much loyalty from players, Jamar Chase said, 311 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: because they've shown them love since they got here, his rookies. 312 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: Over time, you build a relationship, and they still have one. 313 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: Now again, Chase is not going to say anything negative 314 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: to the public in any sense like that, But at 315 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: least outwardly, you've had Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow both 316 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: kind of vouch for the organization this week. 317 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Jamar Chase has always been very straightforward, very honest. 318 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: He's been thoughtful. I don't feel like Jamar is ever 319 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: really holding anything back, and so because of the history 320 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: of that, I feel that same way about his comments yesterday. 321 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: I think the players like Zach. I think Jamar likes Zach. 322 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: I think Joe likes Zach. And I don't think that 323 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: the issues that some of the players have with the 324 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: way things have gone with the Bengals really have all 325 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: that much to do, if anything, with the head coach. 326 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: I think more than anything, they have to do with 327 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: the way that the front office operates and the difficult 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: nature of the front office and ownership, and so people 329 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: are I've seen some people making it sound like, oh, 330 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: Jamar is just saying that he's not trying to rock 331 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: the boat. When has Jamar ever avoided rocking the boat 332 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: if he feels like he needs to. So, I think 333 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: his comments are sincere there and I think that's a 334 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: good thing. If and I. 335 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: Fully don't expect there to be any changes to the 336 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: coaching staff for this Cincinnati Bengals if there were any changes, 337 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: would it immediately become the most desirable job in the NFL? 338 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: No? Who would it be? What do you mean if 339 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: their job opened? Who would the if? The if? 340 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: What if the Bengals head coaching job opened? Yeah, would 341 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: it be the number one job? 342 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: No? Why not? Because of ownership and Duke toven So. 343 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: The only reason I asked. Bill Barnwell wrote an arc 344 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: on ESPN yesterday and he went through the most most 345 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: desirable jobs. Now what he did He gave two honorable 346 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: mentions because he thinks there's a caveat that maybe Mike 347 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: Tomlin's future in Pittsburgh has done, and maybe there's an 348 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: outside chance that Andy Reid retires. And he said, if 349 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: Reid retires, you get to come back and coach Patrick Mahomes. 350 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: That would obviously be the top job. But he put 351 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: together eight potential opportunities. Two of them are already open. 352 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: But out of the eight opportunities that he laid out, 353 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Foul Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns, Bengals, 354 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: he lists the Bengals as easily the most desirable job 355 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: that would would come open. 356 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: There's plenty to say that it would be desirable. It 357 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: starts with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. They're under contractor's 358 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: cap space, and you do have a patient ownership group, 359 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: but financially you're not going to get paid among the 360 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: best in the NFL. You do have to be the 361 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: face of the franchise. No one is going to no 362 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: one else is going to speak. Duke's not going to speak, Mike, 363 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: Katie Troy, They're not going to talk. You have to 364 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: go through all that crap. You don't really have a 365 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: say when it comes to contracts and negotiation, and that 366 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: has proven to be a distraction and an issue with 367 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: players due to the way that they do their contracts. 368 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: And more than anything, like you do you feel like 369 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: the people that are your bosses are going to exhaust 370 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: every avenue to win a championship. Are they going to 371 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: support you in every way possible. Yep, there are plenty 372 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: of reasons to take the job, but I think those 373 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: When has it ever felt like the best coach available 374 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: wants to be in cincrinty. 375 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: I think it's also Barnwell points out, and I didn't 376 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: realize this, Austin. The organization ranks thirtieth in cash spending 377 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: over the past five years combined, ahead of just the 378 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: Raiders and the Rams. They talk about the Jesse Bates 379 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: situation in free agency, and Joe Goodberry kind of added 380 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: to this. Austin listened to these numbers. The Falcons paid 381 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: Jesse Baits fifty million over the last three years. Over 382 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: that same time, the Bengals have now spent forty one 383 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: point eight million dollars on safety with free agents and 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: draft picks. They've also spent a first, third, fifth, and 385 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: seventh round pick on safeties, and in all likelihood, they'll 386 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: need to spend another pick and more free agent money 387 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: this offseason as they still haven't found the replacement. Yeah, 388 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: this team is still haunted by the decision to move 389 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: on from Jesse Bates on the defensive side of the ball. 390 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of play that the 391 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: Bengals have let go where it's like, okay, like I 392 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: can see that, and maybe there's there's nothing there, but 393 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: it's notable that there's three that that should have altered 394 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: the direction of this franchise. Bates is one of them. 395 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: Kevin Zeitler was one of them, Andrew Whitworth is one 396 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: of them, you know, and Trey the whole nonsense with that. 397 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Who knows how it's gonna end up working out, But yeah, 398 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's an example right there of like 399 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: because of the stubborn nature of doing business and not 400 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: wanting to guarantee a certain amount of money beyond whatever it, 401 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: it hurt them. 402 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again they are still set back from that 403 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: because of the ensuing decisions that they have made and 404 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: how those decisions have not panned out in the end. 405 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: We'll take another break. 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The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 412 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 6: This is Dan Horde, joined Dave Lapham and me this 413 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 6: afternoon at three for Bengals PEP rally on the official 414 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 6: home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 415 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 7: For ten years. 416 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back Friday Football Frenzy. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 417 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: Happy to have you along. Give us a call. Phone 418 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: lines are open five to one, three, seven, four, nine, 419 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. We'll go to those phone lines right now. 420 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: John is giving us a call. 421 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: What's up? John? 422 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 8: Happy Friday, Tony, Happy Friday, Austin. How are you good? 423 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: How are you. 424 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 5: Good? 425 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 9: We're doing okay. 426 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 8: A couple of points. I just want to bring up, 427 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 8: first of all, to our friend Mike in La. Thank 428 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 8: you for the kind words yesterday and again, thank you 429 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 8: for your service and keep fighting along with friends. The 430 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 8: other thing, too, is last night's game. And it happened 431 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 8: so early in the game I think everybody forgot about it. 432 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 8: But the Rams scored a touchdown, they got called back 433 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 8: for illegal man bound field, which never happened. 434 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 10: I mean, the broadcast team. 435 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 8: And the official that was overseeing things was like, this 436 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 8: didn't really happen. So they had to take a touchdown 437 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 8: off and settle for a field goal. 438 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 10: So there's a four point swing. 439 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 8: Who knows how the game goes after that, But that 440 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 8: was a really bad call. I mean, that was a 441 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 8: horrendous call and that obviously may have had a big 442 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 8: impact on the game. As far as Tony was, as 443 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 8: far as Austin with al Michaels, I'm with you, brother, 444 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 8: he's lost. 445 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: Some energy or something. 446 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 8: The only thing I can think of is maybe he's 447 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 8: not getting his customary steak at halftime. Remember he gets 448 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 8: a stake at half time that he eats. 449 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 10: Maybe he's not. 450 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 8: Getting that, so could be not enough protein. And from 451 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 8: what I understand, he's eighty years old. He's never had 452 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 8: a vegetable in his life. Maybe someone's mixing in vegetables 453 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 8: and it's doing something to his energy level for the game. 454 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 8: Because he's he's not quite the same as he's been 455 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 8: and I think he's the greatest to ever do it. 456 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: It's hard because the Thursday nights are a little bit 457 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: more difficult, but they've been They've had some incredible moments 458 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks, and the moment has 459 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: almost lost a little bit during the broadcast because it 460 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: doesn't feel as it's viewed by the broadcast as that 461 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: big of a moment. 462 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 8: Do you think he really jibs with Herbstreet. I mean, 463 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 8: Herbstreet to me, is outstanding on college football, not so 464 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 8: much on pro football. 465 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: I think there's a very laid back like thing vibe 466 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: to the Thursday night games and I don't mind it 467 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: because it's different, and I like when they go into 468 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: the way back machine and they have al tell a 469 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: story and they show an old highlight and all that. 470 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: But my biggest issue is that Herbstreek is constantly interrupting 471 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: al Michaels and it drives me nuts and it makes 472 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: the flow of the game, like I just don't understand it. 473 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know that they have the best chemistry. 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 8: Well for early prediction next year comes back for a 475 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 8: final year Aaron Rodgers of the Booth with him. That 476 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 8: could be interesting, very interesting. He'd be a home runner 477 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 8: or you know, look at three strikes final comments. I 478 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 8: know you guys are looking for some Christmas wishes. I 479 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 8: just hope that obviously going forward, Joe Burrow stay healthy, 480 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 8: has that long, prosperous career that we all know he's 481 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 8: going to have if he's healthy, but also find his 482 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 8: love for football again. The teams like that's been waning 483 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 8: the last couple of weeks. And my solution would be this. 484 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 8: If you remember a year ago, they had him miked 485 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 8: up and they were playing with Cleveland Browns and before 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 8: the game, he was talking about Jameis Winston, how much 487 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 8: he loves Jameis Winston, how funny Jameis Winston is to me. 488 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 8: Jameis Winston would be the perfect backup because I think 489 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 8: that you know, you've got a serious guy at the 490 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 8: front who blames himself for everything, and then you got 491 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 8: Jamis who could be kind of like that prankster, that 492 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 8: kid that keeps everybody loose. I mean, as great as 493 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 8: Joe Flackl's been this year, he has a similar personality 494 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 8: to Burrow. Maybe you need someone in that quarterback room 495 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: that's that's going to have some fun and keep the 496 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 8: light and say, boys, we're playing again. 497 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: Here, Let's just have some fun. 498 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 8: I think that that could be something going forward. 499 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 9: Thanks guys for the. 500 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 8: Time, and now we'll give you buzz Monday to wish 501 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 8: you all a happy, happy Holliday and merry Christmas. 502 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: Thank you. Have a great weekend. 503 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the the love and and and the 504 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: fun of the game is something we've talked a ton 505 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: about over the last two weeks. And the quicker that 506 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: that Joe gets back to that, the better and the 507 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 3: quickest way to get to that is is winning more 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: football games, which this team is going to try to 509 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: do down the stretch. 510 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: Dave, what's going on? 511 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, so 512 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 7: you ask for a Christmas wish, So my Christmas. You 513 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 7: all know seeing the movie A Christmas Carol with Eben 514 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 7: Ater Scrooge. Yes, so Evan Azer Scrooge is Mike Brown. 515 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 7: So then Paul Brown comes back on Christmas Eve and 516 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 7: Mike eat and his mock turtle soup, and then show 517 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 7: him the past, which is the Lost nineties. There the President, 518 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 7: which is a horrible defense, and then the future of 519 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow not being playing for them anymore, and he 520 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: wakes up on Christmas Day and tell Katie to start 521 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 7: spending money. 522 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: Man, I like this. I like the storyline, Dave. Thank you, man. 523 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 524 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 9: Now. 525 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: Austin, I would assume you've seen The Christmas Carol at 526 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: some point like, yeah, I know that. Okay, Yeah, maybe 527 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: that happens. Okay, maybe that's that's an outsider. There's this 528 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 3: idea and a vision of what's happened, what's currently happening, 529 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: what the future holds. And it works for Ebenezer Scrooge 530 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: because he became a delightful individual after that happened, very giving. 531 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: I feel like there's some things, you know, that could 532 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: be applied to our life. That story you ain't kidding 533 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: this year. You ain't kidding. 534 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: That's why I don't it to be necessarily Cincinnati sports 535 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: related speak. Christ Christmas wishes. 536 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: That that story has a lot of you know, man, 537 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of power, a lot of 538 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: power that it yields important this game itself, and we'll 539 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: do some read and react to finish up the hour 540 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: when we get back, uh, this game itself for just 541 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: a sheer matchup standpoint, what do you think that the 542 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: best matchup on Sunday becomes the Bengals and the Dolphins? Yeah, dude, 543 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: I have no like the individual. I have not thought 544 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: about that the matchup side of at all. I don't 545 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: want to see I want to say Stewart, Yeah, everything 546 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: that he does that's interesting. Sure, is Wattle gonna play, 547 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: that's a good question, assuming he plays him and DJ Turner, 548 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm still fascinated by DJ Turner, guy who can help 549 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: himself a lot over the last three weeks. But I mean, 550 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: let's not over complicated. It's is Joe Burrow going to 551 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: get to get back to himself? Yeah, that's what matters. 552 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: And I think too, what what a difference it would 553 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: make to get a Burrow four touchdown dominant performance, just 554 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: to kind of ease everything that's going on. Both teams 555 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: are eliminated from the playoffs. The Bengals right now have 556 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: a sixty two percent chance at a top ten pick, 557 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: the Dolphins a fifty five percent chance at a top pick. 558 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: According to the Playoff Machine from ESPN Analytics. The Dolphins 559 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: Austin rely almost more than anyone else on yards after 560 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: the catch, and this might get into a little to 561 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: read and react. Fifty four percent of its passing yards 562 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: this year are yards after the catch. Bengals allow five 563 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: to thirty three after the catch, which is the most 564 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: by any team and one hundred and ninety eight more 565 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: than the next closest team a chain. If Waddle plays, 566 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: he's not going to throw the ball fifteen yards down 567 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: the field. It is going to be a lot of 568 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: dink and dunk to try to make some plays. Let's 569 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: carry that over into Read and React to finish up 570 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: the hour. When we return on the Friday Football Friends 571 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: of ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station WC Welcome back 572 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Charlie 573 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Goldsmith joins us at the top of hour number two. 574 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: Then we'll get to your talkbacks. But before we do 575 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: any of that, Austin, can we read and react on 576 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: a Friday? 577 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yes? 578 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: Now we read and react to Tony Pike Sincy three sixty. 579 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: Well, that sounds great, Austin. Let's read and react. Bengals 580 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: Dolphins Sunday at one o'clock. 581 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Bengals sent to take on the Fish in Miami, and 582 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: they'll be doing no with the with a new big tuna. 583 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: Oh Quinn, your big tuna. The starting quarterback for Miami 584 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: on Sunday. He's gonna make his first NFL career start 585 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: against the Bengals, but he made his debut in weeks 586 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: seven against the Browns, tone entering the game in the 587 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: fourth quarter in relief of twa turned the ball over 588 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: you Weers completed five of his eight attempts for fifty 589 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: three yards and was pressured on five of his ten dropbacks. 590 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: Under pressure, he completed two of three attempts for forty 591 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: four yards, taking two secs. He went three for five 592 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: for nine yards from a clean pocket. 593 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how much you can take from that, 594 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: especially against a defense like the Cleveland Browns. I think 595 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: one of the biggest things around yours coming out of Texas. 596 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: I just think there's too many inconsistencies and he turns 597 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: the ball over, which is odd because if you look 598 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: at why they're benching to a tongue of ioloa, he 599 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: turns the ball over a lot. Now, he's not going 600 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: to be asked to make many throws. As mentioned down 601 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 3: the field, they rely on yards after the catch, They 602 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: rely on one on ones with their playmakers, which should 603 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: bode well against this Bengals defense. But over his career, 604 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: he was inconsistent, top end stuff really good, turned the 605 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: ball over way too many times. Hopefully the Bengals can 606 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: make that in life a little bit uneasy for him 607 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: on Sunday and force some turnovers on the back end. 608 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: Now, this one's a roller coaster. Just bear with me, okay, 609 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: all right. The Bengals have played cover zero on eight 610 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: point three percent of drop backs this season. That's the 611 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: third highest rate in the NFL. However, they have surrendered 612 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: thirteen touchdowns on thirty nine attempts when in cover zero, 613 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: the most in the NFL. On the flip side, Cincinnati 614 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: has generated pressure on fifty percent of the cover zero dropbacks, 615 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: the second highest mark in the NFL. Live and die. 616 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: They are living and dying with cover zero in the 617 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: pressure is the problem I have the cover zero. It 618 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: requires communication to be one hundred percent and the problem 619 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: that we've seen from the Bengals Austin. We saw this 620 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: twice in the Buffalo game that resulted in big plays 621 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: in a touchdown, and you saw it on Baltimore's first 622 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: touchdown last week. If you're in cover zero, you have 623 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: got to make sure you are locked onto your ky. 624 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: Whether that is a back on a running back, whether 625 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: it's a free rush to the quarterback, you've got a 626 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: breakdown and make the play. Whether it's you have to 627 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: peel off and guard a running back out of the backfield. 628 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: It feels to me like the Bengals too many times, 629 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: and that's where those thirteen touchdowns would come into play 630 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: have resulted when the communication just has not been there. 631 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: Cover zero is also a high pressure down which you 632 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: can get home to the quarterback if you cover it properly. Again, 633 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: the issue is they have had too many breakdowns and 634 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: coverage on the back end of cover zero. 635 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: Miami running back Devin a Chan has forced miss tackles 636 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 2: on twenty seven point eight percent of his rushes this season. 637 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: That's the sixth highest among running backs in the NFL 638 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: with at least one hundred carries, though it marks the 639 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: first time his rate has fallen below thirty percent. Since 640 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: entering the NFL in twenty twenty three, he's totaled five 641 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two rushing yards after miss tackles forced, 642 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: second most in the NFL and one hundred and seventeen 643 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: more than the next closest player but Jean Robinson. Since 644 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: entering the league in twenty three, a Chan has accumulated 645 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: twelve hundred and seventy six yards after miss tackles on rushes, 646 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: also the second most. The Bengals defense has allowed six 647 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards after miss tackles on design 648 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: runs this season. Unbelievably, that's the second most in the 649 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: National Football League. He terrifies me. 650 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: It is to me the biggest key in this game 651 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: one because of a quarterback making his first start too, 652 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: even if it was to the idea is going to 653 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: give it a chain the ball. He you want to 654 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: talk about a guy explosive in space. You want to 655 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: talk about a guy who is not letting the first 656 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: guy bring him down. That to me, we hear gang 657 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 3: tackling all the time. You hear flying to the ball. 658 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: You have to get eleven hats to the ball if 659 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: you're the Cincinnati Bengals, because a Chain's gonna reverse fields, 660 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: he's gonna put the foot in the ground, and he's 661 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: going to more times than not make the first guy miss. 662 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: If you don't arrive with the cavalry, it is going 663 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 3: to be a long day for the Bengal defense because 664 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: Ahan just doesn't do it against bad tackling teams. He 665 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: makes good tackling teams look silly. You've got to rally 666 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: to the football this weekend if you're the Bengals defense. 667 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: Last one very quickly. The Bengals have chipped on Orlando 668 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 2: Brown's pass blocking snaps fifteen point four percent of the time, 669 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: the second highest rate among all left tackles. He is 670 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: allowed a five point seven percent pressure rate when helped 671 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: with chips compared to ten and a half percent when 672 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 2: he's on his own, creating a four point seven percent split. 673 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: It's the sixth largest in the NFL. 674 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: Just reading between the lines, and I think you and 675 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: I have both discussed this, there are times I feel 676 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: like he's the weakest link on the offensive line. And 677 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: if we see that and the Bengals are also chipping 678 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: on fifteen percent of his pass blocks, that means the 679 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 3: Bengals see that as well, and they're trying to send 680 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: help that way. It also is important because it's the 681 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: blind side of Joe Burrow, the side that you can't 682 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: see where pressure could be coming from if you miss 683 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: a blocks. So I like the fact that the Bengals 684 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: have identified that and are at least helping a little bit. 685 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: But it doesn't exactly vote as a vote of confidence 686 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: that they are chipping that much, because that tells me 687 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: that Orlando Brown Junior is just not grading out well 688 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: for what they want him to do. React, read and react. 689 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: What's coming up next, Charlie Golds. Charlie should get his 690 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: own segment intro as well. He joins us to kick 691 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: off our number two Friday Football Frenzy continues next ESPN 692 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 693 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 11: WCKY, Cincinnati, Make us the number one pre set on 694 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 11: your car radio and on the free Knew It Improved, 695 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 11: iHeartRadio add Free never sounded so good. 696 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. Rick Fair for Rick is Tony Pike's 697 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to you in part five 698 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: fellow Windows Indoor Making life writer Pellan out Hey. Later 699 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: Skyline shilling feeling good. 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It's by welcoming to 711 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: our guy, Charlie Goldsmith, who joins us each and every 712 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: Friday to kick off the second hour. 713 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: Charlie, what's going on? 714 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 12: Man? 715 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 9: Tony doing well? How are you? 716 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: Charlie? 717 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: I have one question about the Bearcats and then we'll 718 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: move on. I have to ask, when March Madness rolls 719 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: around and the Committee sits down, will they view the 720 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 3: Bearcats with and then without Gigsel James? So can we 721 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: just throw the other losses out the door and view 722 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: this team going forward? Since Gigsel James is now back. 723 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 9: The most fascinating part to me about all this with 724 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 9: Jiggle James, and I'm just speaking from a basketball perspective, 725 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 9: is the maturation and the growth that had to happen 726 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 9: with his own game, being a more consistent player this year. 727 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 9: So how much he's actually improved while he's been away, 728 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 9: you know, I kind of need to see it. But 729 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 9: if he grows, you know, we all know the upside. 730 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 9: But I'm interested to see him more during the rest 731 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 9: of the season. 732 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 3: Let's start with the Bengals, Charlie. Let's start with what 733 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 3: we've recently learned Zach Taylor speaking after practice, Chris Jenkins 734 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: is going on the IR, Joseph Osaiah is out, t 735 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: Higgins is questionable. Which of those three is the most 736 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: significant for Sunday's game in particular? 737 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 9: The most significant obviously is Key. But I'm intrigued by 738 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 9: the state of this defensive line right now, like right now, 739 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 9: right now, and how they'd finished the season without us 740 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 9: or not, but potentially without Osai and without Jenkins. Of course, 741 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 9: you know it's an opportunity. How do you want to 742 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 9: use Samar Stewart inside outside, rushing out of this spot 743 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 9: on early downs, that spot on late downs. Miles Murphy's 744 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 9: another guy They've never really had an opportunity to say, 745 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 9: all right, Miles, go be the guy this week. So 746 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 9: because of how little infrastructure there is around them, you know, 747 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 9: there's no like Trey Hendrickson lining up on the left side, 748 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 9: you can kind of structure that those rotations whoever you want. 749 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 9: So how do you do that to try to evaluate 750 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 9: those pieces you have on the defensive line? And then 751 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 9: how do you cycle in the depth? You know your 752 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 9: Seed Johnson, you're McKinley Jacksons behind them. 753 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: How important are these next three for Miles Murphy? I 754 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: feel like we don't know anything about Miles Murphy and 755 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: what we do know, we know about the uncertainty of 756 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson in the future, JOSEPHO size in a contract here, 757 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: Miles Murphy has played better down the stretch, But how important, 758 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: how vital are these final three weeks for Miles Murphy 759 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: or for sure I'm sorry for Shamar Stewart. 760 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 9: For Samar Stewart. So Samar had some of the most 761 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 9: Like I guess the best way to describe it is 762 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 9: like if you were just looking at the batting average, 763 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 9: even if it was a small sample size, he probably 764 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 9: had the worst batting average of anyone on the Bengals, 765 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 9: just in terms of how many bad plays he was making. 766 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 9: And I think what you saw there was just the 767 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 9: lack of reps and the lack of attention to detail 768 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 9: catching up to him and getting exposed in the biggest way. 769 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 9: And he was literally getting benched to make game every 770 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 9: single game. What I've been told, what I've seen, what 771 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 9: I've heard is that they did fign some things from 772 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 9: a homework, from a preparation, from an attention to detail, 773 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 9: not his attention in meetings, but using what he's learned 774 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 9: in meetings and all that kind of stuff and applying that. 775 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 9: What I've heard is there have been some positives, but 776 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 9: obviously you've got to prove it. So it's not even 777 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 9: about the sacks from him for me down the stretch 778 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 9: that I want to see. It's execute your assignments, make tackles, 779 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 9: find a way to play with a bit more confidence, 780 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 9: and hopefully find something to build on heading into the office. 781 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 3: The linebacker position. You're talking about going into the off seat, 782 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: and do you view Demitrius Knight and Barrick Carter as 783 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: linebackers that are improving each week? Are you there yet 784 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: or do you still need to see more? 785 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 9: They're improving. I haven't seen them at a starter level. 786 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 9: I thought Dimitrius played at a starter level against Baltimore 787 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 9: and that was his first time probably since like the 788 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 9: Broncos game in Week four where you can say that 789 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 9: about him. How I view the room next year, and 790 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 9: this is just me right now, is I'd like to 791 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 9: go out and get a let's call him a linebacker, 792 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 9: one who can kind of be the rock of your 793 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 9: defense in the middle, and then let Barrett and Demetrius 794 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 9: and Orrin Burk's kind of rotate around and maybe they 795 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 9: all have sub package rolls and mix and match, and 796 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 9: maybe one of the young guys like Carter or Knight 797 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 9: does pop and take that step into a development and 798 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 9: develop into a starting linebacker. But Miami is actually a 799 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 9: huge game for both of them. First, because this, on 800 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 9: paper isn't a quarterback who should give them a lot 801 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 9: of headaches. We'll probably try to keep things simple and 802 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 9: quick in ways to stretch the linebackers. And then you 803 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 9: don't need me to tell you how much Miami versatile 804 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 9: and dynamic and explosive rushing attack with a fullback in 805 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 9: front of the running back challenges and puts a ton 806 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 9: on the plate of the linebackers. One of the more 807 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 9: interesting schematic things to me about this game is they've 808 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 9: been taking Night off when fullbacks are in as a 809 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 9: way to kind of like take things off his plate. 810 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 9: I think it's how it's been described. They don't want 811 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 9: him to have to learn a million packages and a 812 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 9: million different looks. Well, now that they're eliminated, do you 813 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 9: just let Night work through that and you know, see 814 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 9: if he can win the block against alex Ingold. That's 815 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 9: one of the more interesting schematic things to me about 816 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 9: this game. But this is a game where the linebackers 817 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 9: will be in the microscope this game. 818 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: In general, there are very few teams that rely more 819 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: on yards after the catches. The Miami Dolphins add in 820 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback making this first start, and how how devastating 821 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: Devin Han can be in the open field versus the 822 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 3: problems we just outlined with the Cincinnati Bengals. Is that 823 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 3: what this comes down to on Sunday on the defensive 824 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 3: side is tackling on space. 825 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 9: In your opinion, that and from what I'm getting from 826 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 9: what I was hearing in the locker room yesterday, a 827 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 9: lot of pressure looks and a lot of this guys 828 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 9: is trying to throw things at Quinn. You were that, 829 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 9: to be honest, Lamar Jackson didn't even handle that loll 830 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 9: and the Bengals stewarded him in those games against Baltimore 831 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 9: things that yours hadn't seen before. I think. I don't 832 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 9: think yours is going to play well at all. Like 833 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 9: third string linebackers don't get reps, and it's a short 834 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 9: week for Miami and they have so many guys who 835 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 9: were hurt, so I doubt that they were doing a 836 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 9: lot of full feed practice reps over the course of 837 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 9: the week. So that's a really tough spot for a 838 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 9: kid to make his debut. They'll probably try to run 839 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 9: the ball a million times and throw a screen off it. 840 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 9: Maybe set up one shot for him to take a 841 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 9: shot and hope you find a bus that coverage on 842 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 9: the other side there. But that stresses the Bengals just 843 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 9: playing clean all around overall football. 844 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 2: Tony and I talked earlier this week about the idea 845 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: of winning these games versus losing them and improving the 846 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: potential draft slot. Zach Taylor said, very bluntly, we want 847 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: to win. That's why Joe Burrow is playing in these games. 848 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: How important do you think it is to the culture 849 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: of the team and specifically those young players to win 850 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 2: these games on the way out this season? 851 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 9: Well, this is the chance for you know, Miles Murphy 852 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 9: to start leading, and for DJ Turner to start leading, 853 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 9: and for the Rooky linebackers to keep trying to do that. 854 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 9: Jack Hill is the guy you can put in that category, 855 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 9: loop in with the veterans on offense, Chase Brown. 856 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 13: And Andre Josebash into that. 857 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 9: Tier of players. So it's an opportunity to try to 858 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 9: get a feel for what you want it to feel 859 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 9: like with those guys stepping into more central roles from 860 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 9: an intangible perspective in twenty twenty six, what I really 861 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 9: go back to is I truly, truly, truly believe said 862 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 9: some of the final few games of the season in 863 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 9: twenty nineteen and in twenty twenty for the Bengals ended 864 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 9: up meaning something tangible in the long term, for Tyler Boyd, 865 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 9: for CJ. Zama, for Sam Hubbard, for Jesse Bates. Like 866 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 9: I really saw like I saw. I think we all 867 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 9: thought carry over from the confidence you could start to 868 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 9: feel themselves carrying. You saw that translate then dame to win. 869 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 9: The Bengals were good. So you know, obviously the young 870 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 9: core of the Bengals have now not proven yet. But 871 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 9: if they're going to become the next version of those guys, 872 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 9: all right, let's see it. 873 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 3: Go do it offensively, Charlie obviously coming off a game 874 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: in which this offense was shut out and at times 875 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 3: across the game lifeless. I know they got inside the 876 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 3: thirty five four times, they came away with zero points. 877 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 3: What are you expecting to see from them now? Coming back? 878 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: We know Joe Burrow is gonna play Historically, Joe Burrow 879 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 3: bounces back from a bad performance in a big way. 880 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: What are you expecting to see from this offense on Sunday? 881 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 9: This was just a very normal week, Like there was 882 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 9: no all right, let's reassess everything now that you know 883 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 9: Joe Burrow just had a bad game. But I think 884 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 9: they chalked it up to facing a great raven defense. 885 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 9: Let's call it what it is. The cold was a 886 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 9: part of the equation for both sides, for both offenses, 887 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 9: and we saw the cold impact both teams, and it's 888 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 9: just something the Bengals and Burrow will have to handle 889 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 9: better than the next time. During one of those brutally 890 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 9: cold games. He saw them pack drops by the receivers. 891 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 9: Biggest thing for the offense probably be you can't have 892 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 9: the lapses and miss assignments and pass protection that Baltimore 893 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 9: had to let the free runners up the middle going 894 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 9: straight up Burrow and you throw Burrow into that because 895 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 9: some of those were things you could have corrected and 896 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 9: adjusted up front before the snap. But overall, like they're not, 897 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 9: like their quotes say the opposite, but they view it 898 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 9: as kind of just an outlier and let's go re 899 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 9: gather yourself and get ready to face the Dolphins. 900 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 3: Right now, Chase Brown and SOMEAJ p Run. We've seen 901 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: games this year that the carries are about fifty to fifty. 902 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: I think p Run had one more carry than Chase Brown. 903 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: What do you think the end all plan is at 904 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 3: running back and how they want in an ideal situation, 905 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 3: and I know the game dictates a lot of that, 906 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: but an ideal situation, how do they want those those 907 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: snaps to be handled? 908 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 9: I'm meant to go through this. I didn't, but I'll 909 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 9: bet you that pe Rin got I bet he got 910 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 9: like three or four carries on that final give up 911 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 9: drive with seven minutes left. So if you take those 912 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 9: theories out, yeah a lot of times in peer and 913 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 9: I can, then I can visualize this very clearly off 914 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 9: the top of my head, several second and one third 915 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 9: and one spots where they handed the ball to p 916 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 9: Ro so he is the backup. This is Chase Brown's show. 917 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 9: Sometimes gain situation. How many start downs you get, how 918 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 9: many red zone snaps you get, all of the specific 919 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 9: nuanced stuff that's truly random about how many of those 920 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 9: situations you get game to game will lead to more snaps? 921 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 9: For you know, it will lead to a snap percentage 922 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 9: changing but this is Chase Brown's show. They think they 923 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 9: know he's the top ten back in the league. I 924 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 9: think he's the top ten back in the league. Anything 925 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 9: that you've seen that has led to a bigger role 926 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 9: for p Ryan. For me, it's just the product of, oh, 927 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 9: this happened to be a game where there were more 928 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 9: third downs, or oh he got some carries, running the 929 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 9: ball out, running the clock out down the stretch. 930 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 3: Charlie the wide receiver three, We've not talked about it 931 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 3: a ton this year, and we don't know t Higgins 932 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: status yet for Sunday, but I've seen different opportunities this year. 933 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: Andrey Yoshivash won without a catch last week. Mitchell Tinsley 934 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: has not really excelled when given the opportunity. Jermaine Burton 935 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 3: is no longer on this roster. Do you still think 936 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: there is time for Andrey yoshi Vash or do you 937 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 3: view wide receiver three as maybe not currently on the 938 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: roster for next year. 939 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 9: I mean, the idea of the Jermaine Burton pick was 940 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 9: right because it's exactly what they need. And that's not 941 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 9: me defending the Bengals because it was just a massive 942 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 9: myths of who he was kind of from an intangible perspective, 943 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 9: that can't happen again. But that skill set is something 944 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 9: you feel they desperately. It's even go all the way 945 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 9: down to Burton's ability on special teams. He was able 946 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 9: to turn punts Yo Sibosh to me, has been one 947 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 9: of the most disappointing parts of the season, and that 948 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 9: has been on my mind. So I went back and 949 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 9: I watched all his catches from this year and I 950 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 9: was stunned how many body catches there were. And to me, 951 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 9: that wasn't a receiver who was going out and getting 952 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 9: the ball. I wasn't seeing that same confidence at the 953 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 9: catch point from Andre and that's concerning that's something that's 954 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 9: going to be hard to fix now. You know, without 955 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 9: a chance to really build that up down the stretch 956 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 9: of the season. You know, it's kind of something you 957 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 9: can only build kind of in big games. Maybe you 958 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 9: can do it in a game where you're just playing 959 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 9: out the string. Maybe he gets some catches against Miami 960 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 9: and that becomes a turning point for him. But to me, 961 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 9: it's a thing where he just got to be more 962 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 9: aggressive and you know, challenging and going up and getting 963 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 9: the ball like we've seen him do in the past, 964 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 9: and if he doesn't, well, then you know we'll be 965 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 9: looking at wide receivers during the offseason. 966 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: What was your reaction this week when you saw Paul 967 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: Danner's report that Zach Taylor actually had two years remaining 968 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: on his contract and the way that Zach chose not 969 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 2: to really say anything about it. What did you make 970 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: of that this week? 971 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 9: Yeah? Really interesting. My question, and this is just all speculation, 972 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 9: was the idea that this is like a rolling contract 973 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 9: like you often see in college sports. Was Zak interested 974 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 9: in another year headed on to his deal after twenty 975 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 9: twenty three where you know, twenty twenty three you said 976 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 9: what you want about, you know, the Bengals not making 977 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 9: the playoffs, but that was the year that got Brian 978 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 9: Callahan a head coaching job. So what was the plan 979 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 9: moving forward? Ideally, if you know, in their mind they 980 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 9: were just going to keep making the playoffs every year, 981 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 9: what was their long term plan from a contract perspective? 982 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 9: Then with Zak? How has that changed? What was their plan? 983 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 9: Anyway when we got to the end of the twenty 984 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 9: twenty sixth season and oh, by the way, Zak still 985 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 9: worked you without a new contract extension announced. It raised 986 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,479 Speaker 9: a lot of those questions for me. But already heading 987 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 9: into you know, the great work by Paula, I wasn't 988 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 9: expecting a coaching change this season. 989 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 3: Charlie, Have you allowed yourself to start looking at mock 990 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 3: draft simulations? 991 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 12: No? 992 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: Have you allowed yourself? 993 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 3: Have you allowed yourself the possibility that they draft like offense? 994 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 3: Can they go get Jeremiah Love and just go all 995 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 3: in on the offense? 996 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 9: You can't, Well, I think that's disrespectful to Chase Brown. 997 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 9: So I think he's just a great player what they need. 998 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 9: And it's just me. I haven't studied Caleb Downs enough yet, 999 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 9: but if he depending, I'll be looking for the versatility 1000 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 9: from him, and if he can play multiple positions, that 1001 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 9: boosts them up significantly. What this team needs is more 1002 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 9: help on the defensive line, and adding a premier, explosive 1003 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 9: defensive line and with production is something you can do 1004 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 9: with the top ten ticks. So that's where I'm leaning 1005 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 9: right now. 1006 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: We'll leave you with the Reds question, Charlie. I know 1007 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 2: that you've often talked about how the Reds have five 1008 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 2: or ten ish million dollars to spend. They spent some 1009 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: of it on a relief pitcher in Caleb Ferguson. I 1010 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: know he met with the media yesterday. What do we 1011 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 2: know about him, how does he fit into the bullpen? 1012 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 2: And do we expect any more moves from the Reds 1013 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 2: considering their budget. 1014 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 9: First of all, like I like the move. I like 1015 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 9: the move. It's particularly in a vacuum. Like Terry Francona 1016 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 9: called Caleb Ferguson to you know, like welcome him to 1017 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 9: the squad. And Francona said, and we heard this from 1018 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,959 Speaker 9: Ferguson then, like you were in need on our roster 1019 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 9: last year and like you just can't go into games 1020 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 9: like the right the way the Reds were without a 1021 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 9: left you felt like you can count on Ferguson is 1022 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 9: a lead against left handed hitters, a lot of playoff experience, 1023 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 9: a lot of leverage experience. He was the guy I 1024 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 9: had a de top rated lefty on my board and 1025 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 9: they found up for cheaper than I thought they would. 1026 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 9: So you gotta say that's a good move. But you 1027 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 9: say that and then it's not even end of sentence. 1028 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 9: It's trauma. But what about the best? And clearly like 1029 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 9: kind kind of like I've said, along, they just viewed 1030 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 9: bullpen and getting like adults in the bullpen as the 1031 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 9: biggest need on the roster because of how you need 1032 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 9: that consistency to get you through through a season. And 1033 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 9: so now when you look get opportunities to improve your lineup, 1034 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 9: it's platoon. It's complete bilo bounce back guys. Or it'd 1035 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 9: be like trying to find the next Will Benson. And 1036 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 9: I know it hasn't worked out with Will, but is 1037 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 9: there a guy and another forty man roster here? Like 1038 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 9: you know what we see it? And then in twenty 1039 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 9: twenty three, Will Benson was a very good player. So 1040 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 9: like some platoon free agents on my radar, Austin Hayes 1041 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 9: would be great, even an everyday guy Rob Refschneider the 1042 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,479 Speaker 9: AM I like on a trade market, like the Mets 1043 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 9: had a logjam of young infield prospects, on one of 1044 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 9: them available where you trade one of your young relievers. 1045 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 9: You know, Ryan Mountcastle kind of lost his job when 1046 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 9: the Orioles got Pi Alonzo. Is he available on a 1047 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 9: trade now? So it's kind of looking not in the 1048 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,760 Speaker 9: most premier places, but kind of trying to find diamonds 1049 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 9: in the rough for opportunities to get nice offensive players. 1050 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 9: Even if no one's going to be a big big like, 1051 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 9: all right, this guy changes. 1052 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 3: Your lineup that as Charlie Goldsmith before I let you go, Charlie, 1053 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 3: just to kind of round off this conversation of going everywhere, 1054 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 3: what were your initial thoughts seeing Brendan Soorzby put his 1055 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 3: name in the portal and what that means for the 1056 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 3: Bearcat football program? 1057 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 12: You know what? 1058 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 9: First of all, I keep going back to the point 1059 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 9: of how hard it's going to be to find and 1060 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 9: develop a quarterback who reaches that level. In terms of 1061 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 9: the NFL draft buzz, he was getting, well, he could 1062 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 9: have a nice pro career as a backup or as 1063 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 9: a third stringer, and always though felt that what they'll 1064 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 9: need from the quarterback position will be a bit more 1065 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 9: than that. So how do you get a bigger success 1066 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 9: at quarterback than that when also you probably won't have 1067 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 9: as much like running back talent. It's sort be tad 1068 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 9: here or tight end talis in Cincinnati. So how do 1069 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 9: you reach that level? To me is the big existential 1070 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 9: question that I'll be thinking about about UC football. 1071 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith. 1072 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 3: The easiest way, especially here around the holiday season, was 1073 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 3: so much going on what's the easiest way to follow 1074 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: along with everything you got happening. 1075 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 9: Is Charlie Shockboard on Substack and on Fox nineteen. 1076 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 2: Charlie, you're the man. 1077 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate you have a great, great holiday next week and 1078 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 3: we'll touch base after that. 1079 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie. 1080 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 9: Happy holidays, guys. 1081 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 2: Thank you Charlie. 1082 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 3: That is Charlie Goldsmith. By the way, Austin, have you 1083 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 3: seen what Ken Rosenthal. 1084 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 2: Put out earlier? I did not about the Pittsburgh Pirates. 1085 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 3: No, Brandon Lowe is a Pirate's that's been made official, 1086 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 3: he says, right now, it is officially in the physical 1087 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 3: side of things, the medical review. But right now, according 1088 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 3: to Ken Rosenthal, Brandon Lowe and I now see talking 1089 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 3: Baseball has picked it up as well, Brandon Lowe in 1090 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 3: a three team trade involving the Astros and Rays. The 1091 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 3: Pirates are going to pick up Brandon low Jake Magnum, 1092 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 3: and Mason Montgomery. Interesting, so the Pittsburgh Pirates have added 1093 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 3: a substantial and significant bat that's been on the market. 1094 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: Imagine that something else to keep an eye on as 1095 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 3: teams continue to make moves. Let's take a break, let's 1096 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 3: come back, and let's hear from you the listener with 1097 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 3: your talkbacks next on the Friday Football Friends at ESPN 1098 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1099 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 2: Hey, it's smallwagger, join us month, press. 1100 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 12: The microphone and record your message or Austin in tone, 1101 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 12: please keep it clean and doping me at a sprinkle sprinkle, 1102 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 12: drip drift. 1103 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks. 1104 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 12: It's our favorite part of Sincy three sixty. 1105 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 14: So Austin, buddy, play those bunkbacks on your screen and 1106 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 14: please ride out to sabotage. 1107 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 3: All right, the Friday Football Frenzy Edition, ESPN fifteen thirty 1108 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's see what we got today, Austin. 1109 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 15: Sad news about Greg Biffle and his family yesterday in 1110 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 15: North Carolina. Condolences to everyone in the Biffle family and 1111 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 15: NASCAR community. Good luck to wal Burrow this weekend. I 1112 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 15: love watching Walburrow play, except for last weekend when he 1113 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 15: got a whopping five points in the quarterfinals at my 1114 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 15: fantasy football tournament I'm out Marry Christmas Surprise. 1115 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 3: He scored that many points out one incredibly sad news 1116 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 3: around Greg Biffle and his family. By all accounts, the 1117 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 3: guy gave back and did so much for others in 1118 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: need the fantasy football thing. I'm under the semis Austin. 1119 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 3: Last night I chose to bench, well, I didn't bench. 1120 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 3: I have Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford, but I kept 1121 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 3: Stafford on the bench to drop thirty. 1122 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 11: He wisnard of. 1123 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 16: Chris and we just wanted to bring a little segment 1124 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 16: of can he or can't he to your show today, guys, 1125 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 16: and can't he? We just want to ask you, can 1126 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 16: Burrow or can't Burrow? Get his head out of his 1127 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 16: ass and quit being sad? 1128 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he can. 1129 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 13: I don't think he can't. 1130 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: Greg, and I think you're gonna quit on the teams 1131 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 2: and we. 1132 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 16: Hope he doesn't, guys, but good luck with everybody. 1133 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 17: Good luck Burrow. 1134 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, can he he can? 1135 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 13: Hey, fellas, it's Vannie Austin, fight on man. The Bengals 1136 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 13: need to play. Burrow need to get his confidence back. 1137 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 13: Think about it last couple of years, last year and 1138 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 13: then all this year he had to win every game, man, 1139 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 13: and can make the playoffs. Now he can just have fun, 1140 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 13: relax fling the ball around? Man, what's up with this? 1141 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 13: You're out of contention. You don't play your stars. 1142 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 12: Man. 1143 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 9: If that's the case, Tony Bonto would have played like 1144 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 9: half a season every year. 1145 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 17: What are we doing? 1146 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 2: Many rarely makes a good point, but he made one there. 1147 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 18: My one Cincinnati Sports Christmas wish would be for Jeff 1148 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 18: Bezos to buy the Bengals. Not only would he have 1149 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 18: deep enough pockets to buy the damn Lombardi if that's 1150 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 18: what it took, but they could rename the stadium the 1151 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 18: Amazon Jungle. 1152 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 2: Ooh about that, the Amazon Jeff Bezos bought the Bengals, 1153 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be in Cincinnati much longer after that. 1154 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 19: No, my wishes for Wes Miller to get a lifetime. 1155 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: Contract, the James Franklin of the NCAA men's basketball programs, Boy's. 1156 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 20: Up guys, Big cahoone, and Kentucky Christmas wish for Cincinnati Sports, 1157 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 20: that's easy fire Zach Taylor. I mean, you know, everybody 1158 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 20: wants to talk about Duke Tobin and all this. I mean, yeah, look, 1159 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 20: I mean some of the guys that he signed, like 1160 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 20: Gingo Stone. I believe he let the AFC, if not 1161 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 20: the NFL on interceptions the year before he came here, 1162 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 20: the year they got Kappa and Karras and all them 1163 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 20: guys on the offensive line. Them guys were good signings. 1164 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 20: The guy Dallas, he was good signings. It's the coaching. 1165 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 20: It's all coaching. Get this guy out of town. He's 1166 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 20: the common denominator. 1167 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Agreed. 1168 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 17: Hey, guys, Muker from the grove. 1169 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 21: My Cincinnati Christmas wish, and all I see is pretty simple. 1170 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 21: I just want a parade. I don't care what it 1171 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 21: is at this point. Just give me a parade to 1172 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 21: go to for celebrated championship. 1173 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 17: That's it. 1174 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 21: Cincinnati wish, a Cincinnati sports parade. Don't care who it is. 1175 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 2: Right, well, maybe the newly found Cincinnati Slingers able to 1176 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 2: win an arena championship for you. 1177 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 9: I'm from White Oak. 1178 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 2: My Christmas wish is to get rid of that flat bill, 1179 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 2: Duke Tobin, get him out of here flat Now they're 1180 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: going with the flat bill. Start bench cut. I'll give 1181 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: them to you in the order that I would do it. 1182 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 2: In fire Duke. 1183 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 5: Togin, fire Al Golden, and fire Zach Taylor. 1184 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 2: All right, well that that's not starting to cut. That 1185 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: would be my start venture cut. 1186 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I will uh sure, I will fire Duke, I'll bench 1187 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 3: ol cutsack happy Friday. 1188 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 13: Guys. 1189 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 22: Yeah, I don't understand these bold games. I mean their pointless. 1190 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 22: They don't decide anything. Now we got this playoffs there, 1191 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 22: I don't even know how they make money off of this. 1192 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 22: That are the good players are actually playing? Everybody offs out. 1193 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 13: Let's just cancel the saying sure their pointless, no names anymore. 1194 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 3: Well, you have you not only have teams opting like, 1195 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 3: you have whole teams opting out, and then you have 1196 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 3: players opting out. And it's I just don't know how 1197 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 3: much you can actually get out of the game the most. 1198 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 3: The coaches will tell you that more important than the 1199 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 3: game is the practice time you get. I can see 1200 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 3: that the extra practices you get leading into a bowl game, 1201 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 3: but the game. 1202 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Itself is maybe if you get six wins, you get 1203 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 2: more practices instead of a bowl game. Okay, hello, this. 1204 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 12: Is former President Ronald Reagan and will take it easy 1205 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 12: on my old buddy Al Michaels. He's an all time great. 1206 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 12: In fact, I want to play a couple of his 1207 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 12: classic calls to remind everyone. This one's from the seventy 1208 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 12: two playoffs. 1209 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 2: We did this last week. 1210 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 14: The wine the two pitched the bench, swang on fly 1211 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 14: ball right field. Beck goes Clemente at the wall. It's 1212 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 14: gone and no one will forget this one from the 1213 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 14: eighty Olympics. Do you believe in miracles? 1214 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 2: Shoote got right there? Addie, what off? 1215 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 17: Mwg Man. 1216 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 23: It's been a long couple of weeks, but I have 1217 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 23: one holiday wish, and that's for Joe Burrow to finish 1218 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 23: the season healthy. Ooh, I like that, I would add man. 1219 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 23: Can we just get a stretch where he can play football? 1220 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 23: That's it, That's all I want. That's all I want 1221 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 23: to see Joe do for the next several years is 1222 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 23: just play football. 1223 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 2: We got nineteen games in a row at one point. 1224 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: That was cool. Yeah, what a fun time. That's a 1225 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 2: good afternoon, gentlemen. Is Rob from Michigan. 1226 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 21: My Christmas wish for the Cincinnati Bengals this year is 1227 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 21: to tank or Caleb Downs. 1228 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 2: Have a good day, gentlemen. Okay, thank you, Ron, Okay, 1229 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: Caleb Downs. 1230 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 24: Hey, guys, I was just thinking to myself how great 1231 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 24: it would be if we got more people in the 1232 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 24: city to throw down money for more of those billboards 1233 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 24: calling out for firing of some certain Bengals employees. Doubt 1234 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 24: it will do anything to change anything. But there's nothing 1235 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 24: better than these literal, giant metal fingers pointed at the organization. 1236 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 2: What do we think the billboards accomplished nothing? Now I 1237 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: think other people think they accomplished something. I'm telling you 1238 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 2: they accomplish nothing. Yeah, they don't, especially when you don't 1239 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 2: put it anywhere where any Bengals personnel drive like. I 1240 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: get the sentiment people are unhappy. They want to state 1241 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,439 Speaker 2: that they're unhappy. Are there better ways to do that? Sure? 1242 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: I would wonder, But I mean it gets news headlines, 1243 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: people write chlos about it, It goes viral on Twitter. 1244 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,439 Speaker 2: I get it. It feels like a waste of money. Hey, 1245 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 2: the Happy Friday, Tony in Austin, Tony. Hope this isn't 1246 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 2: too hard for you. 1247 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 25: Got a stop bench cut Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve 1248 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 25: and New Year's Eve. 1249 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, happy weekend, gentlemen. This part in my life. 1250 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 3: I will start Christmas Eve, i will bench New Year's Eve, 1251 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 3: and I'll cut the night before Thanksgiving. 1252 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: Start New Year's Eve, bench Christmas Eve. 1253 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 17: That's how I used to be just another Jeff, And 1254 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 17: my Christmas wish for the twenty six sports season would 1255 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 17: be that Matt McClain would return to something close to 1256 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,439 Speaker 17: what he was before his injury. I think that would 1257 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 17: be a huge piece the Reds having a decent season. 1258 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with now that is a legitimate wish. 1259 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 21: Right now, get your ears on, mother Lovers, because you're 1260 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 21: gonna hear a PayPal commercial seven hundred times diest. 1261 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 26: Good afternoon fellows are on Wisconsin. My Christmas wish is 1262 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 26: sincey seven twenty six hours straight with you guys, Molk 1263 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 26: can move to the evening and then maybe add a 1264 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 26: segment where you ask Duke Tobin questions and then it's 1265 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 26: followed by twenty seconds asilum. I mean, I'm a retired 1266 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 26: weather guy, and even I wonder how he can get 1267 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 26: paid being wrong? 1268 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 2: So off, I forgot to bring this up earlier. When 1269 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 2: Skinny was on with Moe on Wednesday. Skinny said that 1270 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 2: the Beat writers have put in a formal request to 1271 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 2: interview Duke Tobin and it was denied. Yeah, like last week, 1272 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna put another one, like a 1273 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 2: written request. You have to keep doing it. And I 1274 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 2: think that's what Trags was pushing at too. And Trags 1275 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 2: is the guy who's leading that. He's like the president 1276 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 2: of the local chapter, the pro football writer. So Trags 1277 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 2: is the one who literally is doing that good. So 1278 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 2: I think sometimes we we forget that there is an 1279 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 2: effort being made to talk to him. Yeah. Uh, and 1280 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: they just choose not to amer Drew himself that crazy 1281 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: backward pass play. 1282 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 7: Uh, didn't they get blown dead? That was why I thought, 1283 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 7: once the whistle blows, doesn't doesn't play done and over 1284 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 7: and and so they the guy pick it up after 1285 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 7: the whistle blows and then they count it. 1286 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't really understand this. So anyways, Uh, you know 1287 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 2: what Santa Claus said to my three sisters, Ho ho ho, 1288 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: I have a good onne, guys. Yikes, I thought the 1289 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 2: play was blown dead. That's why everyone stopped. 1290 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, it's a duke toobin again. If we finish 1291 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 5: off these last three games strong, I really don't see 1292 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 5: any reason not to run it back. I mean, you know, 1293 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 5: we'll have a lot of momentum going into next year. 1294 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 5: You know, we'll get that deal done with Gino Stone. 1295 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 5: It will be the starting safety. We can draft a 1296 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 5: guy that we can develop for the future, because this 1297 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 5: defense is going to have a lot of momentum going 1298 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 5: into next year. It'll be a great defense, no need 1299 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 5: for change. 1300 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. Love the sentiment. 1301 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, sorry for the double dad, but I got a 1302 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 11: touch on it. I mean, Tony with your breakdown of 1303 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 11: key mash ups and this Bengals down with them, and 1304 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 11: you're really trying hard to break down this toilet bowl 1305 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 11: that's coming up this weekend. Christmas. Christmas, wisch Man, I've 1306 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 11: been your wiz. Came true that you're off all next 1307 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 11: week and the Poluns. You ain't got to break down 1308 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 11: these junk games that the Bengals are playing in. Now, Man, 1309 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 11: you are trying hard. 1310 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 17: I'll give you credit for that. 1311 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 11: You're trying to keep the listener engage in the toilet bowl. 1312 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Listen. Winning is important, That's what I was told. So 1313 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 2: what's the best way to win? Oh? 1314 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 9: Ton in on it. 1315 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 6: It's Chris Kringle. I was just checking Christmas or Is 1316 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 6: myself and thought i'd call in. Let's see here. I'm 1317 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 6: checking my list. Austin Moore, nice, very good, Tony pi Uh, 1318 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 6: nothing here for Tony Pike. You know I started this 1319 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 6: a couple of months back. Let's see here. Any questions 1320 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,799 Speaker 6: regarding Tony Pike should be addressed to iHeart corporate media. 1321 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 2: Yep, call them out. Send it my way. Hey guys, 1322 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 2: TJ east Side Up. 1323 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 27: Thanks and Merry Christmas too, the Talkbackwards who provide so 1324 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 27: much entertainment, and thanks for providing a great daily form. 1325 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 2: For saxety Sports. 1326 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 27: Audie, thanks for playing a great foil to all of 1327 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 27: Tony's common sense and great takes. You're super about it 1328 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 27: and makes the show great, even though you don't agree 1329 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 27: with you picking up her sun at the airports and 1330 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 27: I really looking forward to having him home. Tony have 1331 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 27: a great time with Meredith and the kiddos. Hope it's 1332 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 27: a special Christmas audio. I hope Sanna brings you a 1333 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 27: few new Zach Taylor ornaments for your tree. Merry Christmas. 1334 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: Fellas just zero relationship with reality and that guy. 1335 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 28: You guys were talking about things you're interested to see 1336 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 28: from this Bengal squad down the stretch in these last 1337 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 28: three weeks, and I have my eye on that third 1338 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 28: wide receiver spot te presumably you out this will give 1339 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 28: some guys some more opportunity. This guy, we all remember 1340 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 28: Yoshi had that stretch where he couldn't catch a cold, 1341 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 28: and I've been kind of disappointed in him all year. 1342 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 28: I feel like he hasn't really recovered from that point, 1343 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 28: and I like Mitch Tinsley a lot. I feel like 1344 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 28: he's done some things with the limited targets that he's had, 1345 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 28: and done at least enough to deserve more targets. 1346 01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 17: Interested to hear what you guys think. 1347 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 15: Yeah, I. 1348 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 3: Targets, but as Charlie mentioned it, wide receiver three. I 1349 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 3: don't think it's on the roster right now. 1350 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 2: But yeah it's not. I agree with that. And those dudes, 1351 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, four drops on Sunday could have changed that game. 1352 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Chase had two of them, Tinsley had one, Yoshi had one. 1353 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 2: Tinsley missed stopped running on a deep route that could 1354 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 2: have been a touchdown against Baltimore the first time. I 1355 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 2: think that's also part of the reason why Burrow is upset. 1356 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: You know about Zach Taylor. 1357 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 25: I don't care if the players lik him because they're 1358 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 25: not winning, Maybe they shouldn't like him as a coach. 1359 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 2: He's got a losing record. 1360 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 25: He's missed the playoffs five of the seven seasons, including. 1361 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 2: The last three three in a row. 1362 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 25: Only here can that happen and you still keep your 1363 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 25: job and everybody keeps talking about all of you know, 1364 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 25: things all change next year, then that's gonna be a problem. 1365 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 25: We said that last year about this year. It just 1366 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 25: feels like we're in a never ending loop. This team 1367 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 25: get serious. 1368 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 2: Well, the point I'm trying to make is everyone's trying 1369 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 2: to read between lines and everything that the players say. 1370 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 2: I think the players have made it clear that they 1371 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 2: don't think Zach is the problem. I also don't think 1372 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 2: that the player will ever come out and say that 1373 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 2: he is the problem. Maybe not, but I also think 1374 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 2: that those guys have been pretty honest and straightforward in 1375 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 2: the past. But you're right, I mean either way, I 1376 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 2: think this is their way of kind of saying it 1377 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 2: without saying it about the other people. 1378 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 29: Audie got run over by a reindeer. Oh, walking home 1379 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 29: from skyline Chilie. Oh, you could say that Tony could 1380 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 29: have saved him with him and Mo were chilling that 1381 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 29: twin peace. Now they've been having too many cold ones. 1382 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 29: Autie begged him not to go, but he forgot his 1383 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 29: oyster crackers. Then he's staggered in the snow. 1384 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 2: Audi got run over by a reindeer. 1385 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:04,600 Speaker 22: Gosh, Christmas for Cincinnati? Is that manuate Baseball implements a 1386 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 22: salary camp. I think that will finally give us a 1387 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 22: chance to actually. 1388 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 9: Be even better. I know we had more money to spend. 1389 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 22: But it's not even those but some of these others 1390 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 22: to spend, even if they actually didn't come up most 1391 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 22: that money actually spending at for a change. But it'll 1392 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 22: be a salary cam. 1393 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you, Hey, Audie, You're not alone. 1394 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 19: A lot of people think if the Bengals sold that 1395 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 19: they'd get moved to a new city, but. 1396 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 17: Realistically, what city makes sense. 1397 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 19: I don't see a lot of ditties that are bigger 1398 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 19: and more lucrative than Cincinnati that don't currently have. 1399 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 2: An NFL team. Well, the size of the market really 1400 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter all that much based off the structure of 1401 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. But a team like Toronto or a city 1402 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 2: like Toronto, San Antonio, Mexico City, if they want to 1403 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 2: go international, those are some some teams, some some cities 1404 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 2: that have been floated out there. I don't know for sure. 1405 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Las Vegas could be one of them. So not Las Vegas, 1406 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,560 Speaker 2: They're a secret. The second one, Mike and Independence. 1407 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 6: Here, I just want to thank everybody part of the 1408 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 6: local shows, sports, sports commentary. 1409 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 13: It's just an amazing market here. 1410 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate all you do. 1411 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 6: From Chad Brandall to Austin, Tony Mo and Dan Horr 1412 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 6: laugh them everybody. 1413 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:36,560 Speaker 2: Just amazing. 1414 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 16: Off topic, what's with the susme street advertisements asking for money? 1415 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 2: Why don't all that tackle me home? 1416 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 9: Mo money? 1417 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 2: We can dove out? Where's all that at? Let's go? 1418 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Great question that I don't know the answer to it. 1419 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 2: I got kids. I don't know what you're talking about. 1420 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 2: A reminder that I don't have any control over, nor 1421 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 2: do I hear or see the commercials that are run 1422 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 2: on the stream. So I apologize and we're done, all right. 1423 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm guessing with our breaks today, we'll have one segment 1424 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 2: coming back. Uh s, We're gonna need to have two, 1425 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 2: all right. 1426 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 3: And we got Bob Mangin coming up at the top 1427 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 3: of our three with picks after that as well. Since 1428 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 3: he three sixty to Friday Football Friends on ESPN fifteen 1429 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 1430 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 1: This week, the Bengals and Dolphins meet up in Miami 1431 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: for a South Beach showdown. Speaking of the beach, my 1432 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: swimsuit of choice is a speedo European style. I don't 1433 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 1: like those pesky cat lives the Bengals stool. The Dolphins 1434 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 1: get the call live from Dan Lloyd and Dave Lapham. 1435 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: The game kicks off at one pm, with covered starting 1436 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 1: at nine am Sunday. Stream for free are the new 1437 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,919 Speaker 1: and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official 1438 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: home of the Cincinnati Bank. 1439 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 4: This is Football in the Natti, brought you in part 1440 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 4: by Blood Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, 1441 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 4: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1442 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 3: Welcome back, It's a Friday football frenzy. Nearing the end 1443 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 3: of hour number two, Austin, what's going on? 1444 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 2: Very quickly here? Tony? I put up a poll question 1445 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 2: on my Twitter at Audielmore. I received a text yesterday 1446 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 2: while I was doing the show that said the following 1447 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 2: about Joe Burrow quote. Now he's acting like a teenage 1448 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 2: boy during puberty. Ridiculous the way he's handled the last 1449 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 2: two weeks. I simply asked, do you agree with this statement? 1450 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 2: So far, five hours left over five hundred and sixty votes, 1451 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 2: seventy six percent say no, they do not agree with that. 1452 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 2: It's not as many as I thought. I agree, So 1453 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 2: you can go vote at Audio Moore A U T 1454 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 2: y E L M O R. I hope to God Monday, 1455 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 2: we are not talking about Joe Burrow's mental state. And 1456 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 2: he goes off four hundred and four tugs on Sunday and. 1457 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,639 Speaker 3: My also shout out to former Bengal linebacker Adrian Ross 1458 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 3: the Slingers. He's been named the general manager of the 1459 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Slingers, who begin play in the International Arena League 1460 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 3: in April of twenty twenty six at Heritage Bank Center. 1461 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to Adrian Ross. We'll be back a touch 1462 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 3: and go to get to our number three. On ESPN 1463 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,879 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 1464 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 4: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN 1465 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,600 Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1466 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,560 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy Show, brought to 1467 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: you in part five fellow Windows and Door Making life 1468 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: writer Pelenau. He later Skyline Hilly Feeling Good. It's Skyline 1469 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: time OnCore Technologies. Visit OnCore dot Tech, Hudson Oil Fielding 1470 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: Champions on and off the field game Dame Men's out 1471 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: start your best life today and by that Creation Museum. 1472 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 1: It's more than a museum. 1473 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Visit Creation Museum dot Org. 1474 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Today on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of US 1475 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. 1476 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back our number three underway as you just heard 1477 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 3: right there, thanks to our friends at Penn Station. Here 1478 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,759 Speaker 3: on the Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 1479 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 3: Sports Station. We have a few moments here to check 1480 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 3: in with our guy from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare. 1481 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 3: It is Bob Manjean joining us to kick off the 1482 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 3: third and final hour here today. 1483 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 2: Bob, what's going on man? 1484 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 10: Just getting ready to go on the road again, Tony. 1485 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 30: We play down in Greenville, South Carolina against Flenson on 1486 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 30: Sunday at three o'clock. 1487 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 10: Everybody wants to watch. 1488 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 2: We're on ESPN and that's a neutral site game. 1489 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 10: Do you feel free? 1490 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 2: Neutral sitel site? Yep, yep. Just wanted to clear that up. 1491 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 3: A lot of these neutral site games not going in 1492 01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 3: the favor of the Bearcats lately. 1493 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 30: Well again, I like the neutral site games, like in 1494 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 30: the Atlanta George. Why you're playing Georgia that that's a 1495 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 30: really neutral site. 1496 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 2: Here's what I want to do today, Bob. 1497 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time talking about injuries at 1498 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 3: the highest level of athletics, and what I wanted to 1499 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 3: do today, Let's bring it back to everyday life, because 1500 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 3: whether you are listening to this show right now or 1501 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 3: you're an athlete at the very highest level of sports, 1502 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 3: I think there's one thing everyone has in common, and 1503 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 3: it's back injuries. The dreaded back injury. Am I right 1504 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 3: to assume when you talk about back injuries, are lower 1505 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 3: back injuries more prevalent than maybe the upper back? 1506 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 2: Correct? 1507 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 30: I think if you look at at you know, the 1508 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 30: literature of whatever population you're dealing with, from athletes to 1509 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:50,879 Speaker 30: non athletes, recreational athletes, workmen, comp low back pain accounts 1510 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 30: for a lot of injuries in this country and really 1511 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 30: absorbs a lot of dollars within this country. And back 1512 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 30: injuries oftentimes are preventable, and again we've even had some 1513 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,719 Speaker 30: athletes to have had to undergo surgery for back injuries 1514 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 30: at the university because of the amount of workload that 1515 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 30: we're doing nowadays, whether it be through the weight room, 1516 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 30: whether it be on the field, and it's no different 1517 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 30: than you know, having a job, and the amount of 1518 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 30: load that people carry on their backs day in and 1519 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 30: day out. 1520 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 10: You know, in certain occupations. 1521 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 30: So I think, you know, the back accounts for quite 1522 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 30: a bit of injury risk, and mitigating that is critical, 1523 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 30: and a lot of people just don't take that opportunity 1524 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 30: to try to avoid the back injury, you know, and 1525 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 30: then once it occurs, it's kind of like that, you know, 1526 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 30: that chronic sprained ankle that keeps coming back to haunt 1527 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 30: you at the wrong time. You know, back problems come 1528 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 30: back to haunt you at the wrong time all the time. 1529 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 3: I want to get into how you can mitigate it 1530 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 3: or how you can prevent them, But first let's go 1531 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,519 Speaker 3: into what goes in to it. Because again I can 1532 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 3: see watching in a basketball game or watching the NFL 1533 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 3: on Sunday, how someone might hurt their back. There's also 1534 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 3: times for me personally, you pick something up the wrong 1535 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 3: way and the next thing you know, you're stuck and 1536 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 3: you can barely walk around, or it can just happen 1537 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,439 Speaker 3: so quickly. What is going into the average lower back 1538 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:19,680 Speaker 3: injury that people are dealing with. 1539 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 30: Well, I think a lot of it is muscular. You know, 1540 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 30: you've got little joints, just like at a knee joint. 1541 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 30: You got little joints in your back. Your spinal success. 1542 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,560 Speaker 30: And if you put them in the wrong position and 1543 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 30: you don't make them happy, they will cause you to 1544 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 30: go in the muscle spasm. If you lean the wrong 1545 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 30: way to pick up something off the floor, if you 1546 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 30: run too many miles, if you're running more downhill than uphill, 1547 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,719 Speaker 30: if you're you know, lifting weights the wrong We see 1548 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 30: so many back injuries in the you know above twenty 1549 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 30: five adult category from weightlifting and people trying to go 1550 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 30: to the gym stay in shape that have no idea 1551 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 30: how to really property lift. And so you've really got to, 1552 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,600 Speaker 30: you know, you've got to be careful you're in the 1553 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 30: in the uh you know, in the gym, you've got 1554 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 30: to take more time to stretch. And in this country, 1555 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 30: I find it in three areas I'm going to I'm 1556 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 30: going to categorize. 1557 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:19,799 Speaker 10: These back problems. 1558 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,799 Speaker 30: In most of them are musclem skeletal back problems because 1559 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,559 Speaker 30: people are not in shape, they have poor posture, they 1560 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 30: don't stretch enough, and they don't work. 1561 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 2: Their core enough. 1562 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 30: They're abdominal muscles, their back extensors, they're obliques, they're ship abductors. 1563 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 30: You need to have a good stylid foundation of core exercises. 1564 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 30: If you want to keep from having chronic back problems. 1565 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 30: That's where you know you've got to get in and 1566 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 30: get evaluated. Biphysial therapists who can look at your posture, 1567 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 30: they can look at your strength, they can look at 1568 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 30: your poster or your chain and then design something for you. 1569 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 30: You know, your lower abdominal is critical. That that muscle 1570 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 30: that holds your pelvis in the right position so you 1571 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 30: don't look like your you know, your guts stick it 1572 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,800 Speaker 30: out so that you know, again it's post here your 1573 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 30: length and here your strengthening and really work that that mobility. 1574 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 30: So so again I think you need to see somebody 1575 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 30: who can get you on the right track. And you know, 1576 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 30: you don't always need to go in and see your 1577 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 30: doc right away. You know you can go get into 1578 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,759 Speaker 30: a fisial therapist who can get you into a good. 1579 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 10: Program and see what happens. 1580 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,719 Speaker 30: And plus, if they evaluate you, you may have something 1581 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 30: different and they may be able to say, hey, you 1582 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 30: do need to go see you know, the orthopedic history 1583 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 30: of your family doc. 1584 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 3: So it's it's one thing if you're a college athlete 1585 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 3: or parathlete and you have all of these things at 1586 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 3: your disposal. And I think when you talk about, you know, 1587 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 3: having a chance to mitigate the risk you talk about, 1588 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 3: you mentioned the word core, and I can't help but 1589 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,960 Speaker 3: think how many injuries come back to a week in core. 1590 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,439 Speaker 3: So for those that are not at the college or 1591 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 3: professional sports level, there are still ways to prevent these 1592 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 3: types of injuries. What type of stuff are you doing 1593 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 3: with your core that someone can do at home to 1594 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 3: help prevent these types of injuries? 1595 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 8: Right? 1596 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 30: There are some really simple exercises you can do for 1597 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,440 Speaker 30: your lower abdominals with you know, post ei pelvit crunches, bridges, 1598 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 30: work your back extensors, working your hip abductors, working rotational 1599 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 30: sit ups for Europa leaques, all of those really control 1600 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,320 Speaker 30: your core. I also like a lot of exercises what 1601 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 30: we call quadruped for being on all fours to where 1602 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 30: you're doing like something we call the bird dog and 1603 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 30: banded bird dog to try to get good glued, trying 1604 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 30: to get good paraspinal strengthening, and that supports your pelvis generally. 1605 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 30: We you know, one muscle that people really don't focus 1606 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 30: on enough is their hip fletchers because especially if you 1607 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 30: sit all day, or an administrative person or an executive, 1608 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 30: your ancher, your muscle, your your ilioso as hip flexor 1609 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 30: tends to be super tight and every time you stand 1610 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 30: up the walk, it's pulling your pelvis in the wrong position. 1611 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 30: And too many people don't want to stretch, you know, 1612 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 30: they don't want to take that time to use a 1613 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,560 Speaker 30: foam roller, they don't want to take the time to 1614 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 30: use a stretch band. 1615 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 17: You know. 1616 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 10: They want to get up and go run. You know, 1617 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 10: I want to go home. I don't want to an 1618 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,679 Speaker 10: early stretch. 1619 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 30: You just want to throw some shoes on it and 1620 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 30: go for a five mile jog. Well, you're really doing 1621 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,440 Speaker 30: a lot of detriment to your body. 1622 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 10: Just doing that. Or I want to just don't stretch 1623 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:35,920 Speaker 10: when I'm going to go play. 1624 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 30: Wreck basketball with the old guys or you know, old 1625 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 30: girls on Thursday nights and they don't take the time 1626 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 30: to stretch, and the next thing, you know, your tier 1627 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 30: your Achilles tendon. So mitigating injuries through mobility, through stretching programs, 1628 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,679 Speaker 30: through core programs is really valuable to save your body. 1629 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 30: As you're starting to get older, you hit peink flexibility 1630 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 30: generally between somewhere between fish teen and twenty years old. 1631 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,679 Speaker 30: After that you're just getting tight. And if you don't 1632 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,560 Speaker 30: start stretching in those late teams, which is what we 1633 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 30: do in college, I mean, our guys do mobile. Coach 1634 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:17,320 Speaker 30: Rachfeld got them doing mobility every day before practice, every 1635 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 30: day after practice. We're preaching stretching in the trading room 1636 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,639 Speaker 30: before practice. So I mean we're really dealing with trying 1637 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 30: to get the mobility in and people don't stretch enough. 1638 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 10: If I sit at the desk all day. 1639 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 30: I'm trying to stretch my it bands, I'm trying to 1640 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 30: stretch my my hip flexus probably every two hours. And 1641 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 30: how many people take the time to really stretch every 1642 01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 30: two hours, you know? So, and that's that's a hidden art. 1643 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 30: People just don't want to take the time to do 1644 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,800 Speaker 30: the simple things. They think they have to try the 1645 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,960 Speaker 30: big thing. You know, I'm going to go get my 1646 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 30: back manigulator, I'm gonna go get you know, dry needle, 1647 01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,600 Speaker 30: or I'm going to try to go do this. 1648 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,559 Speaker 10: Hey, how about stretch? How about take care of your body? 1649 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 30: And that's what cracks me up about this society's to 1650 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,839 Speaker 30: day is everybody wants a quick fix or or everybody 1651 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 30: wants you to do it for them, and it's like, no. 1652 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 30: My job is to teach you how to control your posture, 1653 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 30: how to improve your core, how to get onto a 1654 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 30: good stretching program, take care of your body, and guess what, 1655 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 30: your body will take care of you. Otherwise, by the 1656 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 30: time you're in your forties, Ye're in some people as 1657 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,799 Speaker 30: early as the thirties and you know you got problems. 1658 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 2: Let me wrap this with this. 1659 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,200 Speaker 3: So for those that didn't do a good enough job 1660 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 3: mitigating it, and now here you are with a lower 1661 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 3: back injury and it's just debilitating on a lot of levels. 1662 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 3: What are some things you can do to either alleviate 1663 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 3: some of that pain or get yourself back as quick 1664 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 3: as possible to normal once the back injury occurs. 1665 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 2: What are you asking or advising folks. 1666 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 9: To do well. 1667 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,800 Speaker 30: I'm advising folks to make sure that their attack plan 1668 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 30: or they're treating the planet the right plan. So you 1669 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 30: really need to get somebody to take a look at 1670 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 30: your posture, look at your muscle length, look at your strength, 1671 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 30: look at your core strength, and then design the program. 1672 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 10: From there. You can do some basic routine stuff. 1673 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 30: Everybody today goes on online and says, oh, here's the 1674 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,880 Speaker 30: quick fix the back problems. You know, stretch your hamstrings 1675 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 30: or stretch your quads or use this machine and it 1676 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 30: takes away your back pain. 1677 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,640 Speaker 10: No, it's it's more than that. 1678 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 30: It's you've got to increase your as your muscle length, 1679 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 30: increase your lower abdominal strength. You've got to improve your 1680 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 30: hamstring and it band mobility, and you've got to have 1681 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 30: some good strength in your post to your chain. American 1682 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 30: societies post through your chain is not very strong. And 1683 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 30: posture is one of the things that I can. I 1684 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 30: walk through airports and marshal things some kind of goofy 1685 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 30: because I look at people's posture and say that one's 1686 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 30: got a back back, that one's got a bad knee, 1687 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 30: that one's got a bad back, because you can see 1688 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 30: by the way they're compensating and they're walking that you 1689 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 30: know they've got muscles delations, but they won't take the 1690 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 30: time to do the exercise or the other things to 1691 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 30: you know, to correct it and then mitigate it. 1692 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 10: You know, I mean, you know I've got a. 1693 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 30: Bad you know my history of back provis you know, 1694 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,679 Speaker 30: I'm not afraid to say it. I've got a three 1695 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 30: level backfusion. But I'm still working because I mitigated every 1696 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 30: day with a sprenge program and a stretch the program. 1697 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 10: And that's how I keep up with these young kids. 1698 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 3: You keep up with them well, Bob Manjean. The University 1699 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 3: of Cincinnati and novacare getting ready to head to uh 1700 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 3: to a neutral site game this weekend for the Bearcats 1701 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 3: as they take on Clemson on Sunday. Bob, as always, 1702 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,560 Speaker 3: thank you for your time. Have a great weekend, and 1703 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 3: have a great holiday next week as well. 1704 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 10: Thank you, Tony, you too. 1705 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,560 Speaker 30: You guys have a good holiday, and I'll talk to 1706 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 30: you after a holiday and have fun with the kids. 1707 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 17: There we go. 1708 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 2: That is Bob man Jean. Thank you so much, Bob. 1709 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 3: Whether you're traveling to the game, walking to your seats, 1710 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 3: partaking in postgame celebration, your body can take a beating 1711 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,879 Speaker 3: from all the activity on game day. But at Novacare 1712 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 3: Rehabilitation they understand how important it is for fans to 1713 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 3: be there to root for their team through the power 1714 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 3: physical therap. But you don't need to let as pains 1715 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 3: or injury keep you from the game, So find a 1716 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 3: center near you at Novacare dot com. Today we're just 1717 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,759 Speaker 3: getting started. In the hour number three, our weekly picks 1718 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 3: next on the Friday Football Friendzy on ESPN fifteen thirty 1719 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 3: Cincinnati sports station Rocking. 1720 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's time for. 1721 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 3: The Friday Football Frenzy pickum segment. Before we get to this, 1722 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 3: let me say thanks to our friends at Denados Pizza. Yes, 1723 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 3: Denados Pizza and their new Creamy Palm pizzas. Creemy, you 1724 01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 3: said creamy palm pizzas. Whether that's the chicken palm or 1725 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 3: the bacon spinach palm, go try either one of them 1726 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,560 Speaker 3: right now. You will instantly instantly thank me. 1727 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,200 Speaker 2: At that point. 1728 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,400 Speaker 3: Thanks to Denado's Pizza, we got some picks to make Austin. Yes, 1729 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 3: now I'm thinking about food. Now I'm starving. Before we 1730 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 3: get to any more food, let's start with the college 1731 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 3: football Playoff. There are four college football Playoff games that 1732 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,639 Speaker 3: start tonight and then you get three more tomorrow. Let's 1733 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 3: make our picks on those. Number nine Alabama. These are 1734 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,320 Speaker 3: all home games now for the higher seeded teams on 1735 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,840 Speaker 3: campus games. Alabama travels to Norman, Oklahoma, Oklahoma tonight, a 1736 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 3: one and a half point favorite. 1737 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 2: Austin, the floor is yours. I think Alabama has a 1738 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 2: little bit of a chip on their shoulder. Everybody said 1739 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 2: they weren't good enough, they shouldn't be in the College 1740 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,679 Speaker 2: Football Playoff. They've got time to prepare. I think they're 1741 01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 2: probably a better team than Oklahoma, even though it's on 1742 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 2: the road. I'll take the Crimson Tide to cover one 1743 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 2: and a half. 1744 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the reason they had that chip on 1745 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 3: their shoulders because they're not actually good enough or deserving 1746 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 3: to be in the College Football Playoff. For that reason 1747 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 3: and that reason alone, I will take the Sooners Boomer 1748 01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,560 Speaker 3: Sooner tonight in Norman, Oklahoma. 1749 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 2: Bob Stoops ain't walking through that door, although he could 1750 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,000 Speaker 2: because he stepped away from the Dallas Renegades. That's right. 1751 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,960 Speaker 2: What about the Ys? What about Miami. 1752 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,840 Speaker 3: Travels to Texas A and M. A and M is 1753 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,560 Speaker 3: a three point favorite. Does Miami have a chance to 1754 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 3: win this one on the road. 1755 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,800 Speaker 2: No, not even close. Texas A and M's gonna blow 1756 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 2: them out. Yeah. 1757 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,280 Speaker 3: I think A and M is a machine. I think 1758 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,360 Speaker 3: Texas A and M is a dangerous team. I like 1759 01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 3: A and M at home to easily cover the three 1760 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 3: points in this one. Tulane an Ole Miss Austin Tulane 1761 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 3: and Old Miss. These two teams already played once during 1762 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:05,920 Speaker 3: the regular season. It wasn't close. Old Miss rolled in 1763 01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,519 Speaker 3: that one. Now some will say that maybe there's a 1764 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 3: distraction with Old Miss. Uh, they're not going to beat 1765 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 3: Tulane by thirty five again. In fact, they're only favored 1766 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 3: by seventeen and a half into that. I say, hogwash. 1767 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,960 Speaker 3: I think Old Miss covers this number. I think they rally. 1768 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 3: It seemed like they liked the coach when he was 1769 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,080 Speaker 3: named the head coach because they stayed in house. I 1770 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 3: think Old Miss makes a statement tonight of hey, don't 1771 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 3: forget about us in the college football Playoff. 1772 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 2: I want to Tulane to win because I think Ole 1773 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,600 Speaker 2: Miss has been a little arrogant in the way that 1774 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,840 Speaker 2: they've handled life post Lane kill them. But that being said, 1775 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that Tulane's good enough to hang with 1776 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,320 Speaker 2: Old Miss. So I will take Old Miss to cover 1777 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,280 Speaker 2: seventeen and a half. I don't want that that. 1778 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I admittedly don't know a ton about James Madison. 1779 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 3: I do know person or the school the school. 1780 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 5: Oh. 1781 01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,800 Speaker 3: I do know about Dan Lanning and what they bring 1782 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 3: to the table at Oregon. I think James Madison's a 1783 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,519 Speaker 3: great story. I don't think the Dukes from James James 1784 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 3: Madison can win this one. The question is can they 1785 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,599 Speaker 3: cover twenty and a half. They have a fourteen point 1786 01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,839 Speaker 3: loss at Louisville early in the year. They played Louisville 1787 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 3: really well in that game. I just this is Austin, 1788 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 3: this is in Oregon. I think Oregon dominates. I think 1789 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 3: they win this one like thirty five to three or 1790 01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 3: something like that. I think Oregon covers the number. 1791 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 2: It's not about the x's and the o's. It's about 1792 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 2: the Jimmy's and the joe's, and Oregon's got more Jimmys 1793 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,479 Speaker 2: and Joe's than James Madison. If they had Jimmy's, Joe's, 1794 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 2: exus and o's, I'll take the Ducks to Quack can 1795 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 2: cover twenty and a half. All right, college basketball? Now, 1796 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 2: these first four games Austin, they're neutral site games. I 1797 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,560 Speaker 2: just threw the home team second on the list, but 1798 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,160 Speaker 2: these are all neutral site games. Being played Tomorrow, Ohio 1799 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,800 Speaker 2: State is playing against number twelve North Carolina. North Carolina 1800 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,559 Speaker 2: is laying two and a half in this one. Remember 1801 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 2: that time when folks in Cincinnati they're worried about Hubert 1802 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 2: Davis and North Carolina and hopefully Hubert Davis turns it 1803 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 2: around so North Carolina doesn't come and steal West Miller. 1804 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 2: North Carolina should be afraid that Hubert Davis doesn't go 1805 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,040 Speaker 2: leave for a bigger job. Part of the West Miller 1806 01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,280 Speaker 2: try to weasel his way. 1807 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:18,520 Speaker 3: In CBS Sports class sick. This is happening in Atlanta. 1808 01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,040 Speaker 3: I like North Carolina to cover just a two and 1809 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 3: a half. 1810 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 10: I do too. 1811 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,840 Speaker 2: As much as I want Ohio State to be good, 1812 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,360 Speaker 2: they haven't proven to me that they can be good yet, 1813 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 2: So I'll take North Carolina, who I think is a good, 1814 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 2: good team. 1815 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 3: Now the second game happening in Atlanta is going to 1816 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,719 Speaker 3: be I'm sorry. The first game happening in Atlanta number 1817 01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 3: twenty two Saint John's against the Kentucky Wildcats. There are 1818 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 3: rumors and speculations awesome that Jade Quinn's will make his 1819 01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 3: debut for Kentucky. If so, he is a legitimate difference 1820 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 3: maker for Mark Pope squad. That being said, Saint John's 1821 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 3: Rick Patino, they are a two and a half point favorite. 1822 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:54,800 Speaker 17: Who do you like? 1823 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 2: I like Rick Patino and Saint John's same thing, same 1824 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,640 Speaker 2: argument that I would have for Ohio States like, I 1825 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,640 Speaker 2: want them to be good, but they haven't proven to 1826 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,479 Speaker 2: me that they can be that type of team yet. 1827 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,839 Speaker 2: I think the same applies to Kentucky. 1828 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,439 Speaker 3: I think Mark Pope gets his team to finally get 1829 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 3: one of those marquee wins. This year, they've been awful 1830 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,600 Speaker 3: against ranked teams. I think we finally see them breakthrough. 1831 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,519 Speaker 3: I'll take Kentucky getting the two and a half. Let's 1832 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:24,840 Speaker 3: go to Madison Square Garden, Austin Duke and Texas Tech. 1833 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,519 Speaker 3: What I like there's a common occurrence here. There are 1834 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,320 Speaker 3: a lot of these college hoops team Austin that are 1835 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 3: scheduling extremely difficult in the non conference, and I respect 1836 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 3: them for that. Dukes an eight and a half point 1837 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,040 Speaker 3: favored against the Red Raiders in Texas Tech. Duke wins 1838 01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 3: the game. Texas Tech keeps this close enough. I like 1839 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,759 Speaker 3: Tech to cover the number. Duke wins by ten plus. 1840 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,719 Speaker 3: I'll take the Blue Devils, although I don't want to. Okay, 1841 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 3: what about the Houston cougas part of the Never Forget 1842 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,960 Speaker 3: Tribute Classic. It's going to be played at the Prudential Center. 1843 01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,760 Speaker 3: That's where the Nets play, I believe, But what now? 1844 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:06,360 Speaker 3: The Prudential Center Houston against Arkansas again. I cannot say 1845 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 3: enough about what John Calipari has done. They have played 1846 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:14,719 Speaker 3: Michigan State, Duke, Louisville, Texas Tech. They now play Houston. 1847 01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:19,799 Speaker 3: They have scheduled extremely difficult. That being said, this Houston 1848 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 3: team is a different animal. Lost, and what do you think, Houston? 1849 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Keep it simple, stud. 1850 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:26,400 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 1851 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 2: That's the kiss method. Keep it simple. Stupid. 1852 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, these next games don't officially have a point spread yet, 1853 01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,120 Speaker 3: but I went through the ESPN BPI index. Xavier's on 1854 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 3: the road at Georgetown. Did you talk it all yesterday 1855 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 3: about Xavier on Wednesday night? 1856 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 2: Yes? I did. 1857 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,160 Speaker 3: Not a good showing. It was not good for Patino's team. 1858 01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 3: Let's say Georgetown minus five and a half. Does Xavier 1859 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 3: regroup after a bad showing Wednesday night. 1860 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing about Richard Patino is he 1861 01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 2: seems to have answers for things now. I don't know 1862 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 2: if there's answers for a forty one point loss to 1863 01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 2: the Creaton Blue Jays, but I feel like they don't 1864 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 2: make the same mistake twice. And I don't think they're 1865 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,519 Speaker 2: gonna get blown out. I think they're going to compete. 1866 01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 2: I think they'll cover five and a half on the 1867 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,719 Speaker 2: road at Georgetown. I am going to operate with Xavier 1868 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,280 Speaker 2: now on a I need to see basis. I don't 1869 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 2: know who this team is. I thought I did. That 1870 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 2: first game in the Big East showed a lot of flaws. 1871 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,639 Speaker 2: I'll take Georgetown strictly because they are the home team. 1872 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,439 Speaker 2: Speaking of home teams, I know it's a neutral site game. 1873 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 2: Clemson is a very good basketball team. They are flirting 1874 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,520 Speaker 2: right outside the top twenty five. The University of Cincinnati 1875 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,840 Speaker 2: Austin is not. But they are one to zero with 1876 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,559 Speaker 2: Giggle James as a member of the roster. Yesterday Chad 1877 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 2: called him jiggle James. Jiggle James, which that's me after 1878 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,920 Speaker 2: I have too many holiday cookies. Clemson Jiggle Elmore. 1879 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,880 Speaker 3: Cleveson is lost on the road to Georgetown and then 1880 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 3: to number twelve Alabama and number ten BYU. That Alabama 1881 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,759 Speaker 3: and BYU game were spectacular. They lost by six Obama. 1882 01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,599 Speaker 3: They lost by three to BYU after winning by twenty 1883 01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 3: two in the first half. You see is going to 1884 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,280 Speaker 3: get six and a half in this game? Who am 1885 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 3: I kidding? Give me the Bearcats. They're all the way 1886 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,200 Speaker 3: back with Gisel James at point guard. 1887 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 2: Who's the name of that big fellow used to play 1888 01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 2: for n KU. 1889 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 3: And then you said, Chris Voter, Victor Lockin, Chris Victor locketyah, 1890 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 3: Victor Lockett. 1891 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,639 Speaker 2: He's not with Clemson. No, all right, Well, his spirit 1892 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 2: lives on. Give me the Tigers, all right now? 1893 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 3: I put this last, Austin, because winners go, they get 1894 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 3: primetime on this show. 1895 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 2: Well they didn't win. Oh no, earlier this week. Oh, 1896 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,120 Speaker 2: they already lost it. They lost it. I didn't know 1897 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,600 Speaker 2: that this changes everything. You should have heard it. I 1898 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 2: played it yesterday. Dan Darren Horn was honked off. He 1899 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,160 Speaker 2: said they were stupid. Wow, they said dumb mistakes. He 1900 01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:47,120 Speaker 2: was mattering a wet hornet. Jeff Brantley, here comes Charleston. Then, yeah, 1901 01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 2: Chris Mack get out the way, good luck. Give me 1902 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 2: the Norse at home doubleheader men's and women's game in 1903 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,320 Speaker 2: the same day over there, truest, it's gonna be an ugly, 1904 01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 2: ugly day for the College of Charleston whatever their mascot is, Nku, Norse, Norse, 1905 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:02,800 Speaker 2: Norse norso. 1906 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 3: Now knowing that they're coming off a loss under Darren Horn, 1907 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 3: the Cougars from Charleston. Don't stand a chance. Give me 1908 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 3: the Norse to rain some every on Sunday. Yeah, that's 1909 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,879 Speaker 3: a Cougars Cougars NFL. Let's start Saturday night. Austin Packers Bears. 1910 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,799 Speaker 3: Packers Bears. Bears are favored against the Packers. 1911 01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 12: What do you like? 1912 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,479 Speaker 3: I like the Packers, all right, I'm gonna take the 1913 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,560 Speaker 3: Packers as well. We're gonna get through these quicker Buccaneers 1914 01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,360 Speaker 3: seven and seven, Panthers seven and seven. 1915 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,919 Speaker 2: The division is still. 1916 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 1: On the line. 1917 01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 2: Carolina is a home dog. I love Tampa Bay in 1918 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 2: this one. I'm with you. 1919 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 3: Give me Tampa Jaguars Broncos. I'm gonna go first. I'm 1920 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 3: gonna pick the Broncos because I want to see how 1921 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,000 Speaker 3: strong your ties to the Jaguars in that comment you 1922 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 3: made earlier in the season are give me the Give me. 1923 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos. My allegiances lie to the front seven 1924 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:52,040 Speaker 2: of the Denver Broncos. 1925 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:56,600 Speaker 3: Give me smart smart man Steelers, Lions. The line of 1926 01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 3: seven is that too many. 1927 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if it's Tjatt, jj Wa or anybody. Derek Watt, 1928 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 2: don't care. Lions seven. 1929 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 17: Yeah. 1930 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 3: I think Lions win this by double digits. What about 1931 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 3: Patriots Ravens Sunday Night football? People sleeping on the Patriots again. Now, 1932 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:13,880 Speaker 3: they did blow the big lead against Buffalo, but you've 1933 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,599 Speaker 3: got Patriots, you got Ravens. Ravens a three point favorite. 1934 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 3: I will take the Patriots in this one. 1935 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1936 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,439 Speaker 2: I think Mike Vrabel and Darren Horn very similar coaches. 1937 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 2: These guys are not gonna screw this up. They're gonna 1938 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,200 Speaker 2: come back after a loss. They're gonna expose the Ravens 1939 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,200 Speaker 2: basically in their seats. 1940 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,760 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers host Monday night football against the forty nine ers. 1941 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,599 Speaker 3: People have wondered about the forty nine ers and they're 1942 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,360 Speaker 3: scheduling Austin. How the schedule are they battle tested? They 1943 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 3: get to go to the Colts. Now it's not the 1944 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 3: same Coats team as a couple of weeks ago, albeit five. 1945 01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 11: And a half. 1946 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:41,600 Speaker 13: What do you like? 1947 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 2: There'll be twenty five thousand Niners fans there. San Francisco wins. 1948 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 2: I like the Colts to keep this close. Niners win 1949 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,560 Speaker 2: by a field goal. Finally, thanks to our friends of 1950 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 2: win Schulers are cheesy spread of the week. It is 1951 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 2: not a holiday get together without win Shulers. The holidays 1952 01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 2: are here next week, so don't wait until Money Day 1953 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 2: or Tuesday or Wednesday to get to the store. Get 1954 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 2: to your store now at any of their four flavored 1955 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,600 Speaker 2: Fantastic flavored cheese spreads. I recommend going all four to 1956 01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 2: make sure everyone is happy at the holidays. They pair 1957 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 2: well with anything. Thanks to Win Shulers, It's our cheesy 1958 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,960 Speaker 2: spread of the weekend. Austin Bengals Dolphins. Dolphins started as 1959 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 2: a favorite. That line has shifted significantly. Bengals are now 1960 01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 2: four and a half point favorites. On the road in Miami, 1961 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,600 Speaker 2: What say you? Joe Burrow reminds everybody who he is. 1962 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 2: The Bengals stomp these guys. Miami doesn't want to do this. 1963 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,680 Speaker 2: They want to go book their trips to Cabo, and 1964 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 2: the Bengals are still playing for pride. I'm nervous about 1965 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 2: a change. I've said that all week. 1966 01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 3: That being said, it feels like the type of game 1967 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 3: where Joe Burrow comes out and legitimately throws for four 1968 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,360 Speaker 3: hundred yards and four touchdowns. Give me the Bengals going away, 1969 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,040 Speaker 3: and then everyone's talking on Monday about draft positioning and 1970 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,280 Speaker 3: what are we doing going forward? But it'll be on 1971 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,800 Speaker 3: a Monday midday quarterback after a Bengals Monday win. Bengals win, 1972 01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 3: Bengals cover. We'll be back after this since he three 1973 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,760 Speaker 3: sixty the Friday Football Frenzy. Thanks to our friends there 1974 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 3: at Nado's on ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1975 01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 4: It's football Wam the Natti, brought to you in part 1976 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:08,719 Speaker 4: by Postman Law and by Skyline Chilly on ESPN fifteen 1977 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 4: point thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1978 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,160 Speaker 3: All right, we're back Friday football Frenzy, real quick football 1979 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 3: in the Natti. Thanks here to our friends and No. 1980 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 3: Number three at Penn Station Austin. We have news from 1981 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 3: the Bengals that I think everyone was expecting, although it 1982 01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 3: is now being made official. 1983 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 2: That's right, Tony. Just a couple of minutes ago, the 1984 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 2: Bengals made it official that Shamar Stewart has been activated 1985 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:37,679 Speaker 2: after being on the injured list the injured reserve list 1986 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,719 Speaker 2: since November fifteenth with a knee injury. He was designated 1987 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 2: a return to practice on December tenth. We heard Shamar 1988 01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,479 Speaker 2: say earlier this week that he does plan to play, 1989 01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,200 Speaker 2: and the Bengals have confirmed that they have also unfortunately 1990 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:57,280 Speaker 2: placed defensive tackle Chris Jenkins on the injured reserve lift list. 1991 01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 2: He suffered an ankle injury in that game against Baltimore 1992 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:05,120 Speaker 2: on Sunday. It is it's put up for shut up time. 1993 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,960 Speaker 2: In my opinion for Shamar Stewart, you get three opportunities 1994 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 2: to show a glimpse of why this team took you 1995 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,760 Speaker 2: at the seventeenth overall pick and maybe give a little 1996 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 2: bit of assurance going into next year. Shut up time already? Yes, absolutely, Wow, 1997 01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:21,639 Speaker 2: that's kind of early. 1998 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 3: I think no, no, no, he just hadn't seen it, 1999 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,240 Speaker 3: and when he was playing, I didn't see it outside 2000 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 3: of the play he made where he hit Joe Burrow 2001 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 3: at training camp. 2002 01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 2: I just do you think there's any similarities to him 2003 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,800 Speaker 2: and Amarius Mems. I don't know. Okay, he had he 2004 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 2: played a lot different positions obviously, But. 2005 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:46,680 Speaker 3: Speaking of more of Marus Mems, the Dolphins, Uh, they 2006 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 3: blitz I think top five in the NFL on dropbacks. 2007 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,960 Speaker 3: The Bengals did not handle blitz well last week against 2008 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,400 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens. I'm sure the Dolphins turned that tape 2009 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,800 Speaker 3: on a team that already likes to blitz on drop 2010 01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 3: back passes and said we are going to pressure even 2011 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 3: more than we normally do because the Bengals need to 2012 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,320 Speaker 3: show that they can pick that up. Their protections were 2013 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 3: disjointed last week. They did not have answers for blitz. 2014 01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,600 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was off with some of the checks. I 2015 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:17,599 Speaker 3: would expect the Miami Dolphins to challenge the Cincinnati Bengals 2016 01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 3: in multiple, multiple areas of the blitz on Sunday. 2017 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 2: In that matchup. 2018 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,280 Speaker 3: I think the Dolphins also possessed the NFL's leader in 2019 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,559 Speaker 3: tackles too, in Jordan Brooks. 2020 01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,400 Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't mean much. Yeah, who is it? 2021 01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago for the Banks vigil? No, 2022 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,920 Speaker 3: who did they Preston Brown? Didn't they sign Preston Brown? 2023 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,679 Speaker 3: He had led the league in tackles the year before, 2024 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,120 Speaker 3: and people made a big deal about Preston Brown. 2025 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,800 Speaker 2: He was a really nice guy, Yes, very nice. He's 2026 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,439 Speaker 2: from here. Also, that does bode well for folks here 2027 01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,640 Speaker 2: in this area, which I heard the Reds called the 2028 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,559 Speaker 2: Bengals and said, hey, you should sign Preston Brown. Kick 2029 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,040 Speaker 2: the tires. 2030 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:55,519 Speaker 17: Yeah, I like it. 2031 01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 2: We'll take a break. I'm gonna keep making fun of that, 2032 01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 2: keep going. 2033 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 3: We should, we should when we come back, we'll put 2034 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,679 Speaker 3: a bowl on this week and today's show with quick hits. 2035 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,040 Speaker 2: It it went fast today. If you like flew By 2036 01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 2: fleu By. What do they say about when you're having 2037 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:14,840 Speaker 2: fun and stuff? 2038 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 3: Yep, time flies? Yeah, when you're having fun. It's the 2039 01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,080 Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 2040 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,800 Speaker 4: You've been listening to Football in the NATI, brought to 2041 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,560 Speaker 4: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution, powered by Tofe Sheldon on 2042 01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati. 2043 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 10: Bengals from the Johnson Heating Now. 2044 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,439 Speaker 4: It's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes Cincy three sixteen. 2045 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 2: Was looking for Mo. 2046 01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,599 Speaker 3: Mo is not here. Bengals pep rallies coming up though, 2047 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,360 Speaker 3: that's right right here on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 2048 01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,439 Speaker 2: I believe Sam Hubbard is going to join the show 2049 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,599 Speaker 2: for the last hour. Nice, so that'll be cool. Well, 2050 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,639 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard, wouldn't mind if maybe Sam 2051 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,400 Speaker 2: could go speak to the team. At some point you 2052 01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,080 Speaker 2: rejoin him, don't. 2053 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,800 Speaker 3: NC State is on the board first in the Union 2054 01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 3: Hole mortgage Gasparilla ball. 2055 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 2: That's cool. They lead Memphis seven to nothing. You know, 2056 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,559 Speaker 2: we were just talking about Tulane. Some sad news to share. 2057 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this. John Summerall, who 2058 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,400 Speaker 2: is both the head coach of Tulane and Florida right now, 2059 01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,920 Speaker 2: just announced that his dad passed all last night and 2060 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,720 Speaker 2: his dad was just with him a couple of weeks 2061 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,280 Speaker 2: ago at the press conference at Florida. He's been fighting 2062 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:39,599 Speaker 2: I believe cancer for a lot. That so obviously going 2063 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,240 Speaker 2: to be a tough weekend for him, but he wrote 2064 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:43,679 Speaker 2: a really cool post. Do you want to talk about 2065 01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,479 Speaker 2: a guy who has dealt with that whole situation like 2066 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,760 Speaker 2: the exact opposite of Lane Kiffin. Yep, the way John 2067 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:54,439 Speaker 2: Sumrall has handled that. He gained a fan in me. 2068 01:46:56,479 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Pirates land Brandon Love from the Tampa Bay 2069 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:06,479 Speaker 3: Rays in a three team trade today. Across Major League Baseball, Locally, 2070 01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 3: the Bearcats take on Clemson on Sunday. The Xavier Musketeers 2071 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:16,640 Speaker 3: traveled to Georgetown, and Darren Horn's NKU Norris host Charleston 2072 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 3: on Sunday as well. Kentucky is at a neutral site 2073 01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 3: game against Saint John's, and I think Louisville they play 2074 01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,840 Speaker 3: a home game. I think it's essentially a bye week, 2075 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,559 Speaker 3: although I don't want to say aything about louisvillecause they 2076 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,639 Speaker 3: have scheduled really hard as well. They got Montana coming 2077 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,000 Speaker 3: to the Young Center tomorrow. Pooka Nakua. 2078 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 2: Pooka has been fined oh no, twenty five thousand dollars 2079 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,519 Speaker 2: for his comments about officia. You think you may remember 2080 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,960 Speaker 2: he was on a stream recently with a guy by 2081 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,080 Speaker 2: the name of Aiden Ross apparently and said that NFL 2082 01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 2: officials just want to be on TV and their lawyers 2083 01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 2: and they joke around with their buddies at work about 2084 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,479 Speaker 2: did you see I made that call even though it 2085 01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 2: wasn't really a passer inference call. Oh and uh. Then 2086 01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,280 Speaker 2: last night, I don't know, ninety seconds after the game ended, 2087 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,400 Speaker 2: was tweeting about officials. He deleted that pretty quickly. Sean 2088 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 2: McVeagh was running hot in the postgame press conference over 2089 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,920 Speaker 2: a dumb week from Pooka Nakua, but the NFL has 2090 01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,479 Speaker 2: fined him twenty five g's for his comments on officiat I. 2091 01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:26,400 Speaker 3: Do uh, I do wonder the uh the folks who 2092 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,800 Speaker 3: tweet and then immediately like try to delete the tweet. Yeah, 2093 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,160 Speaker 3: they have to realize that's not going to ever work night. 2094 01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,040 Speaker 3: Today's day and age that is going to be screenshoted 2095 01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,920 Speaker 3: way too many times. Another injury update across the NFL. 2096 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,120 Speaker 2: TJ. Watt is back with the Steelers. Oh, he was 2097 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,600 Speaker 2: watching practice today. Mike Tomlin has no further updates on 2098 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,680 Speaker 2: his status. So it sounds like TJ. Watt's going to 2099 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 2: talk at some point later today. But okay, something to 2100 01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 2: keep an eye off for. We're still waiting on that 2101 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,880 Speaker 2: Dolphins injury report. The biggest one, most notable one for 2102 01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,000 Speaker 2: them was Minka Fitzpatrick. He injured his calf last week 2103 01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,080 Speaker 2: and did not practice either of the first two days 2104 01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,400 Speaker 2: this week. So that would be is Jalen wats lift, 2105 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 2: No's he's good to go. I believe I must have 2106 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:10,080 Speaker 2: made that up in my head. 2107 01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 3: For the Bengals, Higgins remains questionable, Chris Jenkins goes on IR, 2108 01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,599 Speaker 3: Joseph o Siah is out, and Shamar Stewart has been activated. 2109 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:24,920 Speaker 3: Bengals Dolphins. That happens Sunday at one o'clock. Do you 2110 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,400 Speaker 3: have any Do you have any any Christmas wishes going 2111 01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 3: into this holiday season? 2112 01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 2: Christmas wishes? 2113 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did our we did our Cincinnati Sports Christmas 2114 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,880 Speaker 3: wish or just like gift. You know, maybe there's someone 2115 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 3: out there looking for a last minute gift for you. 2116 01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,280 Speaker 3: You had any Christmas gift wishes this year? Because Monday 2117 01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 3: is essentially our Christmas show right now. We get together, 2118 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,800 Speaker 3: you and I get together with Lance and Moe, and 2119 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,599 Speaker 3: we do a Christmas morning show that's correct, which I love. 2120 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:47,960 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite shows of the year. We 2121 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 3: love our families and we come into the studio and 2122 01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,599 Speaker 3: we give everything for the station. But on Monday it's 2123 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,960 Speaker 3: our last time being on Sincy three sixty until after 2124 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,840 Speaker 3: the holiday. Sure, so make Monday. You know at Chris 2125 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,720 Speaker 3: as spectacular. But you got anything on on the you 2126 01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,800 Speaker 3: know how you set your sights on anything. I have 2127 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,679 Speaker 3: a new car, no Phil listening. 2128 01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:13,600 Speaker 2: I have first generation og AirPods. Oh and I just 2129 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,600 Speaker 2: sent them through the washer about two weeks ago, and 2130 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,799 Speaker 2: they worked fine for a week and now they have stopped. 2131 01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 2: And I really held out as long as I could. 2132 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 2: So now I've been lugging these headphones, my nice ones 2133 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,640 Speaker 2: that I use for work, to the gym. Oh and 2134 01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,360 Speaker 2: I don't like that I get a little too sweaty 2135 01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,440 Speaker 2: at the gym. And so that that's that's what I'm eyeballing, 2136 01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,240 Speaker 2: maybe with some some Christmas money. All right, the new 2137 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,559 Speaker 2: air pods, they're just they don't have to be new, now, 2138 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 2: oh you ain't. No, I'm not looking for that new. Now, 2139 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:50,400 Speaker 2: I ain't that new. No upgrade, you know. Yeah, Well, 2140 01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,080 Speaker 2: let's make you don't need the best to the best. 2141 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 3: Let's unofficially officially make Monday our Christmas spectacular. 2142 01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:56,719 Speaker 2: So is that what you're gonna get me for Christmas? 2143 01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 2: Is AirPods? Let's make Let's make Monday unofficially official. A 2144 01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,920 Speaker 2: random thought today, I asked Joe Daniman and Jeremy Ralph 2145 01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:06,639 Speaker 2: ends of the show. I said, do you guys exchange 2146 01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 2: gifts at Christmas? They said no, really, yeah, I'm a 2147 01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,640 Speaker 2: little surprised by it. That's shocking to me. I mean, 2148 01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:16,879 Speaker 2: those guys spend all the time together, like Bob and Patrick, 2149 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,720 Speaker 2: they're like connected. Now, I think of it differently, more 2150 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,680 Speaker 2: than brothers. Now. I questioned everything I knew about them, Yeah, 2151 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the point of Christmas might be ruined? 2152 01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Christmas isn't ruined, you know. If you've 2153 01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,679 Speaker 2: see any fire Tony Pike billboards on the way home. 2154 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm always on the lookout for just buttoned up for 2155 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:41,600 Speaker 2: one on one the firepike, save Elmore. I'm always on 2156 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 2: the lookout for anything and everything. A sincere thank you 2157 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 2: all week to our our listeners, our talkbackers, our guest, 2158 01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,600 Speaker 2: our sponsors, Thanks to Austin Elmore here there see that, 2159 01:51:55,120 --> 01:52:00,120 Speaker 2: thanks to Austin. Oh my goodness, since. 2160 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,320 Speaker 3: I really hope all of you there might be some 2161 01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,680 Speaker 3: folks out there that, based on schedules, are celebrating their 2162 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,479 Speaker 3: holidays over the weekend. If that's you, have a great 2163 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,160 Speaker 3: holiday weekend, happy too, happy honkah, all of it and 2164 01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,160 Speaker 3: everything else that falls up and everything holidays, have a 2165 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 3: good everything. Most importantly, have a good Friday, have a 2166 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,040 Speaker 3: good weekend. We'll be back on Monday to do it 2167 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,680 Speaker 3: all again. It's been the Friday football Frenday. Thank you 2168 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 3: so much for listening on the Home of the Bengals, 2169 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 2170 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,240 Speaker 2: Do you own a small business? A seismic shift is 2171 01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:52,559 Speaker 2: coming