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Speaker 1: This is Skyline Chile sincey three to sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Feeling good, It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello and welcome in Sincy three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore. Happy to be

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Speaker 2: with you on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon, officially afternoon here

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Speaker 2: October fourteenth on CINCY three sixty, and happy to be

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Speaker 2: back on the airwaves after a long weekend, a much

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Speaker 2: needed vacation, a getaway to football's greatest cathedral, lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: I got to spend a bunch of time at a

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Speaker 2: bunch of days up in Green Bay and in the

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Speaker 2: surrounding areas and had a great time. I'll talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about that coming up later on at on

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Speaker 2: o'clock today, we'll talk to Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen,

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Speaker 2: joining us as he normally does on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: At one pm.

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Speaker 2: We'll obviously talk Bengals with him, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to because it is a hectic short week

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Speaker 2: for Cincinnati getting ready to host the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

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Speaker 2: what is like actually the season, like the season actually

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Speaker 2: comes down to this game. It's one of those pivot points,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those turning points. It's a gateway to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the season for the Bengals, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into that extensively. Phone lines are also open at

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Speaker 2: five on three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty if you

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Speaker 2: want to call in and be a part of the

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Speaker 2: show and break down everything that happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a Monday show for me since

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Speaker 2: I wasn't here yesterday. By the way, thank you to

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Speaker 2: Chad for filling in. Certainly not easy to do it

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Speaker 2: and I do it appreciate him doing that. So Sincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty, everybody wants to know, Okay, what's it gonna

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, I didn't really know what I

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Speaker 2: picked both a great time and a terrible time to

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Speaker 2: But I met with leadership here today and the plan

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Speaker 2: Moe kind of hinted at this a little bit last week,

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Speaker 2: I was told earlier today. And while we're all still

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Speaker 2: sad and upset and confused about Tony being laid off,

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Speaker 2: I am ex to be able to have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: and thankful that iHeart allowed me to have this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And my bosses are trusting me with this show because

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Speaker 2: it's really easy to just say, all right, we're done,

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Speaker 2: and they're giving me an opportunity, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And I've heard so many nice things. People have written

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Speaker 2: How long will I have this chance, I don't really know,

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Speaker 2: but I am going to give it everything I've got

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Speaker 2: And if you're new here, and if you don't exactly

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Speaker 2: it really quickly. I started here in twenty eighteen, almost

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Speaker 2: There's room for everybody in being a sports fan and

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Speaker 2: And so I want to appeal to all people. You

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Speaker 2: But also at the same time, I have a craving

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Speaker 2: me personally, have a craving to understand why and how

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Speaker 2: And I want you to have a voice a as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm open to your suggestions and what you like or dislike,

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Speaker 2: And I want it to be fun and I want

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Speaker 2: Is while I do believe that everybody has their own

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Speaker 2: I'm getting old now. I'm over thirty years old, so

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that that pretty much sums it up.

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Speaker 2: But that's what's cool about this show. Here in Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: last two months or last month without Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: with Jake Browning and with Joe Flacco. If you establish

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Speaker 2: right away this is who we are by beating the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, and then you got the next two at

436
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Speaker 2: home before the bye, this is it. And if you don't, well,

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Speaker 2: that then opens up Pandora's box of what the future

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals looks like. Are you trading Trey Henderson,

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Speaker 2: Are you're trading cam Taylor Brick can't even say that

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Speaker 2: with a straight face. Are you letting some guys go?

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Speaker 2: Are you benching some dudes? Are you firing some coaches?

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Speaker 2: Are you full on rebuild if you can't beat Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: because it will be a tough hole to climb out

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Speaker 2: of after that. This is it, man, and the intensity

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Speaker 2: And it's not easy to play on a short week

446
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Speaker 2: because they got to play on a short It's not easy.

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Speaker 2: Not saying it's easy, but this is it. What more

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Speaker 2: could you ask for? You're right where you need to be.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Joe Burrow, You're pretty healthy. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: the reports are on Trey Hendrickson. I would imagine Dylan

451
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Speaker 2: Fairchild's going to be able to go. Maybe Lucas Patrick,

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Speaker 2: maybe Shamar Stewart got an opportunity. Are you gonna take

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Speaker 2: advantage of it or not? This week tells us a

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Speaker 2: lot about the Bengals, if they win and if they lose,

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Speaker 2: About the mentality of the organization and the front office,

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Speaker 2: about the mentality of the coaches and the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: and the players. This week tells us a lot. They

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Speaker 2: have gotten up off the mat better than I expected

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Speaker 2: them to. And the first half in Green Bay look

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Speaker 2: like a quarterback who got here five days ago, and

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Speaker 2: so I'm cutting them a little bit of slack. Second

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Speaker 2: half look like, Okay, this is more what it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to look like. Can they do that consistently with an

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Speaker 2: extra few days at home in what should be a

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Speaker 2: crazy environment. I'm sure a bunch of Steelers fans will

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Speaker 2: show up. Can the Bengals do it? Can you beat

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Speaker 2: a team that you're right there on par with as

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Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned talent wise?

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Speaker 3: Can you?

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Speaker 2: Because if so, you got a chance. And if not, well,

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Speaker 2: then we start turning the page to the next era

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Speaker 2: of Bengals football. I'm not ready to do that. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that yet. You shouldn't either. Phone

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's get your reaction to everything talked about

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Speaker 2: through the first thirty five minutes of the show. Let's

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Speaker 2: start in Cincinnati with Ian what's up?

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Speaker 3: Ian?

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Speaker 8: Hey, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 9: I just I'm gonna make it short because I know

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Speaker 9: you got people in time to take care of. But

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Speaker 9: like I told mo Man last week, in Today's World,

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Speaker 9: of technology and the competition. I wonder if the letting

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Speaker 9: go of Tony was a kind of a big corporate

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Speaker 9: deal where they don't really see the treasure that's inside

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Speaker 9: of itself locally and what the show really meant, because

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Speaker 9: I can't really understand. He's such a strong personality in

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Speaker 9: your guys thing to get there, and.

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Speaker 10: It's just something that you could feel. And I thought

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Speaker 10: on that, I'll say a couple of things and then

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Speaker 10: I'll let you talk. But it's I wonder is there

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Speaker 10: could he come on as a guest and almost like

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Speaker 10: a segment. You know, he's not higher, but that would

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Speaker 10: be something cool once the dust settles or something. I

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Speaker 10: don't know if he would feel into that or not,

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Speaker 10: but uh, there's that. It's just that that's a high

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Speaker 10: value and I don't see why they would just let

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Speaker 10: that go. I'm puzzled by that.

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Speaker 4: Number Two.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to continue to listen to your show because frankly,

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Speaker 10: you're one of the best speakers locally and I would

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Speaker 10: even say nationally. Your cadence, your tone of voice is

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Speaker 10: very easy, and your intelligence.

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Speaker 8: About the sports.

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Speaker 10: So I want to give you your du man, your

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Speaker 10: crops and then the comment about the Bengals as far

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Speaker 10: as like, I agree with you, man, you started to

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Speaker 10: see it like happen, Like Okay, here's the engine. Hey,

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Speaker 10: if you get Shamar back, it's possible.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think that dude could.

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Speaker 10: Develop into a game changer. And if that's true, we

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Speaker 10: might be cooking with gas. So I'm just wondering your thoughts.

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Speaker 9: But I just well, I know it's been said to

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Speaker 9: you a thousand ways till Sunday, but I mean, it

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Speaker 9: is what it is.

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Speaker 11: Man, they let him go.

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Speaker 2: But you know, well, Ian, thank you for the kind

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Speaker 2: words and thank you for the call. I do appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a possibility, I would lean

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Speaker 2: towards no right now. I would never rule it out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Many people have suggested that. I just

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Speaker 2: it's too early to tell. There's dust that needs to

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Speaker 2: settle and then figure it out from there. But I

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Speaker 2: do appreciate the kind words, and that means a lot

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Speaker 2: to me. But yes, defensively, the return of Shamar Stewart

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Speaker 2: could be huge in this game, especially if Trey is

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent. If Trey is battling that back injury,

548
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: which could be difficult on a short week, snaps might

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Speaker 2: be managed anyways, and up against the Steelers offensive line

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Speaker 2: that's certainly far from perfect, and if you're just able

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Speaker 2: to get that one extra sack per game, or to

552
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Speaker 2: get them behind the sticks one more time per game,

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Speaker 2: it can unlock a lot for your defense. And I

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Speaker 2: think where there has been a trend in the right

555
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Speaker 2: direction ever so slightly over the last month probably has

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Speaker 2: been the Bengals third down defense, where it's not great

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Speaker 2: and oftentimes it's third and seven or less, which is

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Speaker 2: a difficult situation to be in. But we're starting to

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Speaker 2: see a little bit more pressures, We're starting to see

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Speaker 2: some different looks from Al Golden and the personnel has

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Speaker 2: changed a lot throughout all of that. So if they

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Speaker 2: can get that a little bit more consistent, maybe that's

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Speaker 2: a big thing any game, especially in the AA where

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Speaker 2: third downs are critical, and I would expect that to

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Speaker 2: be the case for the Bengals defense.

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Speaker 3: Go to Boston, talk to John.

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Speaker 4: What's up, John Austin, Good afternoon. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm all right, man, what's on your mind? All right?

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Speaker 4: First of all, congratulations, I wish you well. You're going

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Speaker 4: to do a fantastic job. And I encourage all the

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Speaker 4: listeners to remain loyal to you. You do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 4: As a prior caller said, your cage, your knowledge is outstanding,

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Speaker 4: yourself deprecating, great sense of humor. So I think you're

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Speaker 4: going to do just fine to make sure the loyal

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Speaker 4: listeners of Cincinnati stick with you, because I think you're

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Speaker 4: a great listen from twelve to three every day. The

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Speaker 4: only criticism I have before I get to my points

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Speaker 4: is I'm sixty two. Please don't tell me you are older,

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Speaker 4: thirty two or whatever you are.

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Speaker 2: I just makeing sure people are paying attention. I'll try

581
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Speaker 2: to sneak that in there for some folks I.

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Speaker 4: Heard that I'm like sixty two. I'd love to be

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Speaker 4: thirty two or whatever you are. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 4: with your agents, but let's just call it that. I'm

585
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Speaker 4: like Dan. That would be fantastic. I trade that anytime.

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Speaker 4: So don't go there. You got a lot, a lot

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Speaker 4: of time to give, and we look forward to listening

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Speaker 4: to you. As far as the game on Thursday night,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the problem I'm seeing with the Bengals since

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Speaker 4: number nine went out is they're not able to score

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Speaker 4: points in the first half. They've gone four straight games

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Speaker 4: without a first half touchdown. Their last first half touchdown

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Speaker 4: came in Week two when Borrow hit Chase in the

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Speaker 4: first quarter of that game against Jacksonville. Eleven's scored a

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Speaker 4: touchdown in the first half since. So those three touchdowns

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Speaker 4: against Detroit kind of felt like garbage time, you know,

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Speaker 4: like an NBA game where someone's up twenty seven, they

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Speaker 4: hit some threes in the final scores eleven. But I

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Speaker 4: think in Green Bay the game is a little closer

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Speaker 4: and it's Flacco, you feel more confident in Flacco may

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Speaker 4: be potentially doing that in the first half is well,

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Speaker 4: and now you've got a chance. If this team's not

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Speaker 4: motivated Thursday night with what they've gone through, then there's

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Speaker 4: a bigger issue than we know about. This could come

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Speaker 4: out flying on both sides of the ball, and as

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Speaker 4: far as the path. Look, if they can win Thursday night,

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Speaker 4: then you've got a mini buy with the Jets coming in,

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Speaker 4: you got the Bears coming in, and then you've got

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Speaker 4: to buy. I mean, if you're four and five going

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Speaker 4: into the buy, you're still a lot to You pointed

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Speaker 4: it out perfectly, Austen. There's no team in the AFC

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Speaker 4: that looks unbeatable for sure. And I know I'm delusional.

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Speaker 4: I still think Borrow's coming back, and I think you'd

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Speaker 4: come back sooner rather than later. But you know, we

615
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Speaker 4: can all hope for that, But yeah, I think there

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Speaker 4: was a path there. Thursday night is obviously the way

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Speaker 4: to kick it off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, and we would all

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Speaker 2: love for Joe to come back, and John, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the kind words and the phone call. I would

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Speaker 2: love for that to happen, don't. You just can't operate

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Speaker 2: under the assumption that it will. You've got to put

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Speaker 2: yourself in a position to where, Okay, Joe can come

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Speaker 2: back and he can have an impact, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco obviously would then be the backup quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: you're right, you're two and four and you've got short

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Speaker 2: week Pittsburgh, New York, Chicago by Pittsburgh again. Can you

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Speaker 2: get the five and four at the buye? You know

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Speaker 2: this team was after week nine and twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: five and four. You know what they were at the

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Speaker 2: bye week nine, after week nine, twenty twenty two, five

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Speaker 2: and four.

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Speaker 3: That can be done.

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Speaker 2: It's not abnormal and Obviously, the whole idea of a

635
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Speaker 2: fast start has been washed away in a sense because

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Speaker 2: of losing the four straight and just where the offense

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Speaker 2: is at. But I like the trends I'm seeing. I

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Speaker 2: like the way Flacco operated the offense. Another few days

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Speaker 2: at home, it's gonna be, I would think easier for him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The other question is, well, TJ Watts on the other side,

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Speaker 2: and Alex high Smith is on the other side, and

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's defense is not easy. But Joe Flacco knows that,

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Speaker 2: he's aware of that. He's played against him many times,

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Speaker 2: played against TJ many times. It's on Zach, it's on

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Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher, it's on the offense to come up with

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Speaker 2: a way to make things easy on Joe Flacco. And

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Speaker 2: maybe that means you know that the quote that a

649
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about right now, Jamar Chase

650
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: after the game said that he kind of changed the

651
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: play call, changed the route because of the way the

652
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: DB's were jumping the routes. That's great. I live for

653
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. I want to know those details.

654
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: Does that mean? Shouldn't it mean to you or to me,

655
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: to anybody else? Jamar Chase has a bigger voice on

656
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: the offense. You know, we don't give Jamar enough credit

657
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: for being a really smart football player, extremely smart.

658
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 3: You know, we see him.

659
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: Dancing, and he's funny and he's got that laugh, and

660
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: he's kind of at times guarded in his responses to

661
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Speaker 2: the media. But then at other times he's very open

662
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: and he's honest, he's refreshing, and he thinks a lot

663
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Speaker 2: before giving answers. It's because he's a really smart guy,

664
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Speaker 2: really smart dude. Maybe he needs a little bit more

665
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: control of the offense. Anybody opposed to that idea. Let's

666
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: go back to the phone. It's five one, three seven,

667
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's go to Covington. Talk to Chris. What's up, Chris?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Austin? How you doing? I'm good man. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 12: I just want to, uh, you know, tell you that

672
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 12: you know you you put out a great commentary or

673
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 12: intelligent and you you've got insightful stuff and you you

674
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Speaker 12: tell it, you.

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Speaker 3: Tell it for what it is. I mean, you're you're

676
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: for real and and you're you.

677
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Speaker 13: I don't know what happened to Tony.

678
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: I really don't.

679
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 13: I don't know what's going on with that situation.

680
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 12: But you know, as far as sixty three sixty, I'm

681
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 12: listening every day, and I don't care. You need to,

682
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 12: you need to, you know, just take over this thing

683
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 12: and run it, and run it the way you want

684
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Speaker 12: to run.

685
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 13: As far as the Bagels are concerned, what's gonna what's.

686
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 12: The matter if you trade energsaying or brick It's I

687
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 12: don't think it's gonna matter anyway, you know what I mean.

688
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 13: Just what you can for him now and move on.

689
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Speaker 13: You know, That's what we used to do when I

690
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 13: was working. I'm retired now, and you know we used

691
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 13: to just say, well, this guy ain't gonna work out,

692
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Speaker 13: We'll move on. We'll get somebody else in here, you

693
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 13: know what I mean. That's that's just the way to

694
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 13: business is. But as far as the show is concerned,

695
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Speaker 13: I'm listening every day, Bud, and I love I love you,

696
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 13: and you do. You do a great show. I love

697
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 13: your insight and your commentary.

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Speaker 3: Chris. Thank you, man, I really I appreciate that. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much.

700
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: And and we'll get into some Trey conversation a little

701
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Speaker 2: bit later on, because again I think the result of

702
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: this game determines the direction you want to take, and

703
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: nobody wants the season to be over before Halloween. That's

704
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, it's difficult for everybody, But you know, Treys

705
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: on a one year deal, essentially, you wouldn't get a

706
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: crazy return from him, especially if he's a little bit

707
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: banged up and he hasn't maybe played to his standard

708
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: to this point, which I know somebody who maybe told

709
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: you that was going to happen, I don't know, But

710
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: either way, he has value and you need draft picks,

711
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: and he takes some money off the books.

712
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: These are the ways you.

713
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: Have to start looking at the future of the Bengals

714
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: and what you decide to do. If you get to

715
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Speaker 2: this point and you're two and five and the season's

716
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: basically over and you lose a home primetime game to

717
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on a short week, these are the conversations that

718
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: start to be had because if you're already gonna start

719
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Speaker 2: playing the young guys, the Barrett Carters, the Demetrius Knights,

720
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: the Dylan Fairchild's, the Jalen Rivers, you're committing to, Okay,

721
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: we're investing in these in these young players, We're investing

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00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: in rebuilding this team a little bit. How can we

723
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Speaker 2: pivot to continue that trend? Trading Trey Henderson is one

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Speaker 2: of those things. More on that in just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in La.

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Speaker 8: What's up, Mike, Hey, dude, do you enjoyed Green Bay?

727
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Speaker 3: I loved it, man, it was the coolest thing I've

728
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: ever gotten to do.

729
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 8: I've never been to that town. What's it like? Is

730
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Speaker 8: it about decide to Dayton or something.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's a little smaller than Dayton. I'd

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00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: say it's like between Vandalia and Dayton. I don't know

733
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Speaker 2: if the number, I don't know the exact population numbers,

734
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's the area that lambeau Field is

735
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Speaker 2: at is surreal. It's it's just a town and then

736
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Speaker 2: there's this cathedral.

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Speaker 8: Often wonder you know, it was just a little I know,

738
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Speaker 8: it wasn't a tiny town like Lebanon or something. But

739
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Speaker 8: I've just never been through there. I've been through Wisconsin

740
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Speaker 8: many times, so I've never been been up there, and

741
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Speaker 8: I always just wanted to restrive through and check it out.

742
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Speaker 8: Never got to do it. Anyway, So you had a

743
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Speaker 8: good time, that's the wrong thing.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, Yeah, it was. It was a great time.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Joe and Boston, you were talking about your sixty two. Dude,

746
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 8: I was in Vietnam when you were ten, so you

747
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 8: ain't that old.

748
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Speaker 4: You're kind of young.

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Speaker 8: Joe wept behind the ears.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Austin, I wonder whatever.

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Speaker 8: I haven't heard Jeff from Virginia call in a long time.

752
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Speaker 2: You know, I saw Jeff. I saw Jeff in Virginia

753
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Speaker 2: in Green Bay. He was doing great.

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Speaker 8: Oh hell yeah, yeah, he gets around that guy does

755
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 8: he does.

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Speaker 3: Man, he's got a lot going on.

757
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Speaker 8: He's a mobile flatsea.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 8: I don't mean to be nega. I did want to

760
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 8: talk about the baseball for a second, but I don't

761
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 8: want to be negative about the Bengals.

762
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: But I don't see them.

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00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 8: If they win five games, I'll I'll crap. Okay, here's

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Speaker 8: the The reality is, we.

765
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Speaker 11: Still haven't mastered the art of drafting. Because Joe and

766
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 11: Joe Harb were kind of thrown on our lap. We

767
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 11: still got the same online, We've still got the same defense.

768
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 11: Now we haven't totally immobile quarterback who can throw it.

769
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Speaker 11: But he's totally immobile, there's no chance of running, and

770
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Speaker 11: our running game still blows.

771
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 8: Well, what are they going to do? About this running game.

772
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a great question, Mike, thank you

773
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: for the phone call. I don't know, I don't know

774
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: how they fix it. Is Dalton Risner, The answer is

775
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers. The answer is Dylan Fairschild, Lucas Patrick. They

776
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: ran the ball good for seven snaps when Lucas Patrick

777
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: was healthy. We've said it many times, the key to

778
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: this offense is running the football, because run the football

779
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: equals a complimentary football team. You're able to control the clock,

780
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: You're able to impose your will, You're able to keep

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: the defense off the field, You're able to stay ahead

782
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: of the chains, You're able to make the defense. Guess

783
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: it unlocks more in play action. Running the football, in

784
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: my opinion, and I think most across the league would share,

785
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: this is the key to offensive success. Now, when you

786
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: have Joe Burrow and you line up five wide and

787
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: you got dudes on the outside, yeah, you can win that.

788
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: You can win that way. We've seen the Bengals win

789
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: that way. But in order to truly compete, you need

790
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: a consistent, independable running game. Bengals have had that in

791
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: the past, and they've been deep into the playoffs. With

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00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: it more phone calls when we get back.

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Speaker 2: Sneaking up all one o'clock ESPN fifteen thirty, hour one

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Speaker 2: nearly in the books. To start hour two, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Joe Danaman Fox nineteen, who waved it me from

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Speaker 2: the field at Lambeau Field on Sunday. I mean, of

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Speaker 2: all the things I got to experience in Green Bay

801
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: being waived at by Joe Daniman towards the top of

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Speaker 2: the list. Let's go back to the phones while we

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00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: have a couple of minutes. Let's go to Crystal in

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Speaker 2: col Rain.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Crystal, Hey, how are you doing today? I'm good?

806
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 15: Just a long term Dingles fan, Me and my family

808
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 15: split season tickets and my sister is going to be

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Speaker 15: taking her grandson down to the white Out on Thursday,

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Speaker 15: so it should be exciting. But we can't do run

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Speaker 15: Run Pass today Thursday night, Saturday or Sunday. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 15: run run pass. We all know what's going to happen,

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Speaker 15: But I understand that Slacko was new when we were

814
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 15: trying you was trying to get a seat wet, and

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00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 15: so the second half looks so promising. Yeah, I really

816
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 15: hope that he has some economy to uh, you know,

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00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 15: run the offense and call from audibles and that we're

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Speaker 15: gonna let him do that. The second thing is that,

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Speaker 15: you know, we've had a couple I mean, we've had

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Speaker 15: some successful seasons with with the with Zach, I get that,

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Speaker 15: but I think it's time that we had an offensive

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Speaker 15: play caller. I think it's time for him.

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Speaker 5: Not to be.

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00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 15: I think he's got too much on his plate. I

825
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 15: don't think we're getting enough bang for our buck with that.

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Speaker 15: I think that we need to develop someone on the

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Speaker 15: offensive coaching team to call his play. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Crystal, thank you for the phone call. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: a lot of people agree with you. And and play

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Speaker 2: calling has been a huge issue for a lot of

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Speaker 2: Bengals fans over the years, and Zach even hinted it

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Speaker 2: at maybe letting it go. I remember before Brian Callahan

833
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: was hired to be the coach of the Titans, Zach

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00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: talked about how or after Brian was hired. He talked

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Speaker 2: about how he was considering giving up play calling. He

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00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: kind of hinted at it earlier. But I don't expect

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Speaker 2: that to change.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it should. I would like to see what Dan

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00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: Pitcher or Justin Roscotti could do calling plays. But I

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00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: do believe Zach when he says it's a collaborative effort,

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00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: and Monday through Saturday they're putting it all together on

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Speaker 2: how to, you know, call the plays and what plays

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Speaker 2: they want to call. In that situation, I think Zach

845
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: needs to be better at getting it out quickly and

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00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: allowing a veteran quarterback like Joe Flacco to assess things

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00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: from the line of scrimmage. I can see that. I

848
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: think a lot of people would be on board of

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00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: the play calling change, but I don't think it's it's

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Speaker 2: realistic to expect that to happen. Just to be completely honest,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's realistic to expect that to happen.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back when we do,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Joe Daneman from Fox nineteen. After that,

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00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: we have talkbacks. We've got football in the Natti and

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