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Speaker 2: The problem with inconsistent statements is you learn things as

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Speaker 1: All right, bye, I know you just play them, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you choose them. Yeah, that's too Trying to figure

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Speaker 1: the Senate Homeland Security Committee. So Mark Wayne Mullen, the

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Speaker 1: junior senator from Oklahoma, has been nominated by President Trump

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Speaker 1: you first how these confirmation hearings work. I've been through

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Speaker 1: two of them. You have prepared remarks, You give your

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Speaker 1: prepared remark, the chairman reserves. Well, the chairman will first

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Speaker 1: that's how it started out between Rand Paul and Mark

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Speaker 3: I entered the Senate the same year that Representative Gabby

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Speaker 3: The pain was such that I could only sit up

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Speaker 4: Recently, Senator Mullen, we have time to listen.

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Speaker 1: You did you notice that I don't want to gloss

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Speaker 3: You voted against my amendments stop all funding for refugee

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Speaker 3: You told the media that I was a freaking snake

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Speaker 1: Wow, you said I was a freaking snake and that

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Speaker 5: Mike, I have an idea for poulis to make the

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Speaker 5: homeless situation in Colorado better. What he needs to do

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Speaker 1: Colorado Outdoors. Yeah, we'll just do that. So we're listening

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Speaker 1: to Rand Paul in his opening statement to Senator Ran Paul,

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Speaker 1: And Paul is upset because Mark Wayne Mullen called him

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Speaker 1: we'll get into in just a minute. But we just

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Speaker 3: The record should show, and I think we'll show.

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Speaker 4: A lack of contrition, no apology, and no regrets for

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Speaker 3: You completely understand the violence that was perpetrated on me.

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Speaker 4: You're unrepentant.

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Speaker 3: The only thing you quibbled about is whether I met

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Speaker 4: I don't think we ever met when you're in the house.

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Speaker 4: Which really more about this match chismo that you have.

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Speaker 3: It had six ribs broken and part of my lung removed,

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Speaker 3: and that was just fine. That's something that you, I

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Speaker 3: When I talked to you on the private on privately

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Speaker 4: Was no apologize, apology.

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Speaker 3: You just said, well, we can let our political difference,

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Speaker 4: Well, political differences, we can.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's no big deal.

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Speaker 3: You know I lay in pain for two months, had

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Speaker 4: You think that's great and to be extolled.

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Speaker 3: it's just fine. So I guess my first question is

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Speaker 4: Mester Chairman.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I didn't know the extit of your

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, this is what Mark Wayne Mullen is referring

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Speaker 6: Engage it all. In fact, you said get your paperwork in.

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Speaker 6: It's got to be in three works three days in between.

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Speaker 4: You no apology, sir.

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Speaker 1: You offered no apology, petty or is.

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Speaker 7: This serious, Michael Michael, I just realized I missed the

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Speaker 7: podcast award broadcast the other day. I bet you cleaned

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Speaker 7: up and you're too proud to talk. You're so modest

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I never got around in the bulleting, but I'm

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Speaker 7: I bet you got best time man, how ironic?

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Speaker 1: I got best Time beautiful. That was wonderful. Yes, we did.

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Speaker 1: We swept them.

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Speaker 3: Wet the Unfortunately we did lose on one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. You know, we did lose that one,

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Speaker 1: was a clean sweep. Yes, Dragon, I are confused by something.

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Speaker 1: So the news report has been that Denver International Airport

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Speaker 6: I did not say I supported it. I said I

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Speaker 6: It's not going to keep me from doing my job

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Speaker 1: They keep you from getting enough Republican vote.

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Speaker 6: Stupid going to secure Kentucky and take care of Kentucky

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Speaker 3: If you just disliked me so much that you approved

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Speaker 1: Us buried at all of this. It's not just this

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Speaker 1: knowing where my birth certificate is that I possess. I

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Speaker 1: think I know exactly where it is, like I should

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Speaker 1: check when I get home. I think it's there. I

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Speaker 1: think it's in a box. It's in a fireproof box

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Speaker 1: in the safe. Yeah, so it's doubly protected. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't know where it was and I couldn't find it,

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Speaker 1: or someone's taking it at and it's disappeared, I think

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Speaker 1: I could probably with the Google machine, I could probably

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Speaker 1: find the address for whoever keeps Vinyl records in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: find out what the fee is, probably make the request

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Speaker 1: online and get a certified copy of my birth certificate

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Speaker 1: and have it delivered to me in under two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And yet what they're trying to tell you is this

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Speaker 1: is Jim Crow two point zero. I watched the video

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Speaker 1: the other day of a black man walking around in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the other boroughs, asking only black people,

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Speaker 1: do you have a birth certificate? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: government issue ID with your picture on it? Not? One

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Speaker 1: person said no, Well if you didn't have one, but

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Speaker 1: you know how to get it. Yes, the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: exercising racism, and they're they are claiming racism without explicitly

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Speaker 1: doing so. What they're saying is that whether you're black

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Speaker 1: or poor, or you're Asian, or you're anything else, you're

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Speaker 1: too stupid incapable of getting a valid ID or finding

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Speaker 1: your birth certificate. Why do they do this? I think

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Speaker 1: the conclusion is pretty obvious because they want the voter fraud.

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Speaker 1: They want the opportunit tunity for voter fraud. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to clean it up. What could be more simple

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Speaker 1: than simply say that if you want to vote in

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Speaker 1: a US election, forget about a state election. I'll even

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Speaker 1: grant them that right now. Let's just say if I

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Speaker 1: want to vote in a federal election for a member

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Speaker 1: of Congress, member of Senate, or the president. If I

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Speaker 1: want to vote for any of those federal elections, then

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Speaker 1: I ought to be able to prove that I am

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Speaker 1: a US citizen. And if I can't, then I ought

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Speaker 1: to be able to or I should be required to

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Speaker 1: provide proof that I am either my naturalization card or

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Speaker 1: my birth certificate. And to say that you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: or you're incapable of doing that, or that's too much

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Speaker 1: of a burden. I say, if it's too much of

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Speaker 1: a burden for you, to do that, then maybe you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't vote, because if you can't take the time and

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Speaker 1: you can't rustle up fifteen bucks, I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you're homeless. You know there's a guy whenever I go

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Speaker 1: over to get my diet coke over at the Sammie,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy that stands on where what would it be, uh,

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Speaker 1: Camarrack turns into DTC Parkway or something. There's a guy

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Speaker 1: every single day. I should ask him someday if he's

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Speaker 1: got a birth certificate somewhere. If he doesn't, do you

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Speaker 1: know how much it would cost to get one, give

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Speaker 1: me all your information. I'll get you. I'll get you

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Speaker 1: a birth certificate fifteen bucks. I don't care what state

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Speaker 1: he was born in. I'll get it. I'll get a

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Speaker 1: birth certificate. Then i'll give it to him. He can

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Speaker 1: go register to vote. I bet there would be plenty

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Speaker 1: of organizations that if you were truly so poor and

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Speaker 1: so desperate and you run to devote so badly that

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Speaker 1: you couldn't come up with fifteen dollars, somebody do it

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Speaker 1: for you, and then you'd have your broth certificate. Then

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Speaker 1: you can register to vote, and we would have the

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Speaker 1: assurance that only US citizen we're voting in US elections,

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Speaker 1: and go back to the Carter Baker Commission. They wanted

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Speaker 1: states to share the databases, so they could, you know,

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Speaker 1: just simply run a name check. Oh look Michael Brown,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure there's more than one Michael Brown. I'm

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Speaker 1: the only one that counts that. There are probably more

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Speaker 1: than one Michael Brann in the entire country. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I know there is because I tried to buy the

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Speaker 1: Michael Brown dot com website from him one time. Didn't

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Speaker 1: want to sell. I wonder why they could do the comparison,

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Speaker 1: look at birth dates or look at Social Security numbers

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, yeah, we got to duplicate here, so

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Speaker 1: let's take them off the roll, and they have to

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Speaker 1: reregister and actually register in the state where you're actually

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Speaker 1: living and qualified to vote. It's so simple, so simple,