1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: KFI Am six forty. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: house whisper, custom home builder, custom home designer, and your 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: guide to better understanding that place where you live. Good 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Saturday morning to you. It's gonna be yeah, a little 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: little cooler today in southern California than it's been this 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: last week. Not much mid eighties ish, that kind of thing. 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Looks like we're headed into that for the rest of 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: the week as well. Some of you are like, yes, 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: I love it. Others are like, this is too warm 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: for spring. Whatever camp you fall into. The point is 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: the weather is going to be fair and it's going 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: to be a beautiful day today. So let's make plans. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 2: Let's get out in there and make something happen. Right, 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Let's get busy building ourselves a beautiful life, as it were. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: We're doing that right here. I'm helping you with that 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: like I do every Saturday morning. It's an all calls 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Saturday morning. The number to reach me eight three three 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: two Ask Dean eight three three. The numeral to ask Dean. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones we go. I want 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: to talk to Alison. Hey, Alison, welcome home. 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: Hi. I have a quick question for you. So we 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: had dual pain windows put in about fifteen years ago. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: We have since had to replace every single window. They 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: become foggy and kind of turn bronzy gold. Is this 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: something you just need to account for with dual pain 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: windows that they just go out every fifteen years. The 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: manufacturer says they no longer warranty them, They only want 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: warranty installation. So can you help me understand this? 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: M Do you know what brand windows that you had guard? 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: You had mill Guard put in fifteen years ago and 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: they all failed. That is not good. 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: Every single window has failed. 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: That is not good at all. That was you know, 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: that's that's that is. That is probably the worst report 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: I've heard on a mill Guard window in years, honestly, Allison, 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: and no, it should not be that way. Windows. Now, okay, 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: granted you know the windows can fail. Now, when we 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: say a window, let me just be clear of what 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: Alison and I are talking about. We're not talking about 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: the framework of the window. We're not talking about the 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: sashes or the casements. We're talking about the glass units. 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: A dual glaze window has this glass unit. Okay, it's 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: an insulated glass unit, and I gu it is a 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: unit unto itself. And when you start to get vapor 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: up inside the unit, those those units are sealed at 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: the factory in clean rooms. They've got ar gone gas 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: inside of them, not air. And when you start to 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: get moisture up inside them and they start fogging up 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: on you, that means that that seal has broken. The 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: seal has failed, and so now there's air inside the 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: glass unit. They're not insulating as well anymore. And you know, 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: you got moisture up in there that you can't get 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: to to clean off or anything. That's just a mess. 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: That's a failure. The idea of an IGU failing after 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: fifteen years now, of course it's possible. One one igu 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: in an entire house. Sure, Okay, all of them. That's 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: crazy sauce. That really is there's really something problematic there, 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: and that would be something that I'd be really really 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: upset with a company like mill Guard about and asked 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: them to do. That's like a bad batch of windows 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: that came out. 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I was wondering. And we've had them 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: out multiple times, so they've continually replaced each one that's gone. 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Kind of it looks almost gray and when you look 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: through it you can't and then they get really white. 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: Well you can't see through them at all. Yeah, and 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: they've gone and replaced them all. But now I have 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: four more that I've noticed are starting to pop or 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: whatever it is. 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Now are they replacing them on your dime or are 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: they warranting them still? 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: They're not warranting them anymore. They did for the first 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: probably seven or eighth they replaced, and then they said 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: they'll find somebody to come in that does glass and 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: replace just the glass. 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I would, I would make a 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: beef with them, tell them that you talk to me 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: as well, and make an issue with them, saying, listen, okay, 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 2: you know we're not doing anything to these windows, guys. 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: And literally this is the eighth, ninth, tenth time. Okay, 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: So until you have actually replaced all of the originals, okay, 84 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: then no, I'm not accepting the idea that now, all 85 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's on our dime, because this has 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: been happening from day one with you guys. So you 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: just keep on replacing these things and give us the 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: clear windows that we paid for when we bought your window. 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. 90 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Alison. And you know what, if 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: they give you any issues, you know you can contact 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: me through the station. I'd be happy to speak up 93 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: because you know, I've recommended mill Guard before on a 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: number of occasions. And that's that's It's not happy news 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: for me, It really isn't. 96 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: They said, this is not uncommon. 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's not uncommon for an igu to fail, you know. 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: I mean upon tens of thousands of these glass units 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: to have a failure. Fine, but for a whole house 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: to be going down one after the other, okay, just 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: fifteen years in. I mean when people buy windows, you know, 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: you kind of have this expectation that this might be 103 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: the last thing you have to window, you have to 104 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: buy for the house. Okay, So when an igu goes down, fine, fine, 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: but one after the other after the other, after the other, 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: six seven, eight, nine times. No, No, there was a problem. 107 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: There was a problem, and somebody needs to just step 108 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: up and accept it. 109 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'll call it tomorrow or Monday. 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Allison, Thanks for the call. I 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: appreciate that. Yeah, here to help you guys. Here to 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: help any way I can. When we come back, more 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: of your calls your home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper, 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: Jean Sharp, the house whisperer, here to help you take 115 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: your home to the next level. Thanks for joining us 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: on the program today. It is an all calls Saturday morning, 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: nothing but your calls. You set the agenda. Anything that's 118 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 2: got you scratching your head about your home. The number 119 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: three to three, the numeral two ask Dean. Let's go 121 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: back to the phones. I want to talk to Hank. Hey, Hank, 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: welcome home. 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: Hey, hey Dean, thank you for taking my call up. 124 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: I really enjoy your program. I'm calling you from northern California. 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: My question is I really enjoy hatching my birds in 126 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: my pump house? 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: Right. 128 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: It's it's a nice built little building, twelve by twelve, 129 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: and there's a there's no insulation and uh and what 130 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: I'm getting to is, pretty soon I'm gonna have to 131 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: shut down operation. It's gonna get too hot. And I'd 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: like to know what type of insulation should I use 133 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: and how big of a unit? What I need to 134 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: put in there just to keep the air down to 135 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: you know, eighty degrees so I can hatch my eggs 136 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: through the summer. 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. What kind of uh 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: what kind of birds? 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: Uh? I breathe rare quail and and duck and chicken 140 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: am samani chicken zombie chickens? 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: Uh? 142 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: I like the Swedish blue ducks. Those seem to be 143 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: a good bird for us. 144 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome, kind of all over the place with it, 145 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, that is awesome. I would love it if 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: you'd send me some photo because you know, I got chickens. 147 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: In fact, I just shut the door here because they're 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: they're all up in my business this morning, making too 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: much noise and uh so I love that kind of thing. 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, check me out. I have a hatchery Hanks 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: game birds. You can find me on Instagram. We have 152 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: a bird on there. 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: All right, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'm on it. 154 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm on the case. Interesting, thanks bro? All right? So 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: what kind of what kind of open studs do we 156 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: have here? Is just regular? 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, it's a it's a it's two by four studs. 158 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: I guess it is. It's on sixteen inch centers. The 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: building's real nice. It's got a nice roof on it 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: and everything. The walls are eight foot tall, and I 161 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: guess the peak on it's about twelve foot. I'm trying 162 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: not to drop the little ceiling if I don't have to. Yeah, 163 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: I have to go around the tank and everything else. 164 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: And you know, just your opinion on that. 165 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: But you're thinking about actually closing up the walls though, 166 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 2: against some insulation and closing up the walls, or you. 167 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: Just always. 168 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of absolutely some insulation and closing up the walls. 169 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: It'd be the best thing. 170 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 5: For the little building. 171 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would do it. I mean, my favorite 172 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: batted insulation until they come up with something better is 173 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: rock wool rock wold, and you can find that these days, 174 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: like roxel r O x U l L. You can 175 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: find that sitting on the shelf at home depot or 176 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: lows or whatever. But I like it a lot better 177 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: than fiberglass. You get a lot more insulating value per inch, 178 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: a lot better our value per inch. Not to mention, 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: I just think it's a better performer. And you got 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: birds in there. The rockxel, the rock mineral wool rodents 181 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: don't like it at all, and so they don't mess 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: with it. They don't nest in it the way they 183 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: do fiberglass. So I would say go with the rock 184 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: sol and that's for everybody. By the way, everybody's insulation, 185 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's currently in my opinion, a short of 186 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: spray foam insulation, which just costs an arm and a leg. 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: I think rock mineral wool is the way to go. 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: It's also great sound insulation as well as far as 189 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: the bt US, you know, I have to give the 190 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: disclaimer that you know, every room has to be evaluated 191 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: for what it is. But I'll give you a general 192 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: rule of thumb. If the building is well insulated, you 193 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: get the insulation in there. Okay, a well insulated space. 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: But the general rule of thumb for you know, give 195 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: or take, is about twenty BTU per square foot. Okay, 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: So as far as air conditioning power, now you got it. 197 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: You don't want to drop an eight foot ceiling, so 198 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: you can have a little bit of a peak ceiling 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: in there. That's a little bit more to contend with, 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: but about twenty as a rule of thumb will get 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: it done. So you got a twelve by twelve building there. 202 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: It's one hundred and forty four. That's like a little 203 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: under it's a about three thousand BTU. So a couple, 204 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, one or two independent free standing vented to 205 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: the outside, you know, portable AC units should just knock 206 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: it down just fine. Or if you wanted to put 207 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: in a split system, if you wanted to go that far. 208 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: But I think just plug it in. A couple of 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: independent units on thermostats would get it done just fine. 210 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: And when you say a split system, are you talking 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: about with the heat also, what are you talking about here? 212 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, system would actually have heat too. Yeah, it would 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: have a heat pump, so it would it would work 214 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: in reverse in the winter if you wanted to keep 215 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: things warm when it got cool. That would be the 216 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: advantage of a split, of a mini split over just 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: a freestanding AC unit. 218 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: Okay, because I'll be fighting that here before I know it, 219 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: it'll be you know, it gets pretty chilly out here 220 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 4: and there's heat lights and everything else running in there. Well, sir, 221 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 4: I appreciate your time and thank you for your info 222 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: and your health. 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: Here all right, Hank, give me the website one more 224 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: time here. 225 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: My instagram is Hanks Game birds or Hanks Game Birds LLC. 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: You can find me anywhere right there. 227 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: All right, I'm on it. 228 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm on it, brother, Thank you, sir, I appreciate it. 229 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: Have a good one, all. 230 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Right, you too, you too? All right? Great? Sorry, sorry, 231 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: just nerded out on birds and ducks and chickens and stuff. 232 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: So but you know I helped them out. I earned 233 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: my keep and then I got my reward. Okay, all right, 234 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: when we come back, more of your calls. Your Home 235 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 237 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp, the House Whisper Here to transform your ordinary 239 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: house into an extraordinary home. That's what we do here 240 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: every weekend Sundays, the Big Show when I always bring 241 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: an important relevant either design, architectural or construction topic. And 242 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: then Saturdays you set the agenda. It's an all call 243 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: Saturday morning, every Saturday morning here on the program. With that, 244 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: I want to go back to the phones. I want 245 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: to talk to Fred. Hey Fred, welcome home. 246 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: Hey Dean. 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 6: I got a quick question for you, actually have two 248 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 6: quick questions. I'm trying to figure out how to determine 249 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: if an interior wall is a load bearing though. I 250 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 6: have a wall in the middle of my house and 251 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 6: if I go open the attic, there are two by 252 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 6: fours that go from the top of the wall to 253 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 6: the roof rafters. But they're at an angle, so they 254 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 6: kind of look like they're they're more to stabilize the 255 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 6: wall than to support the roofs. 256 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: I got you. Yeah, No, Actually they're there to stabilize 257 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: the roof and they're being supported by the wall. They 258 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: are called Perlin braces. They are angled off and what 259 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: the The idea is that those angles run off to 260 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: the mid span of the roof rafters to keep the 261 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: rafters from deflecting too much. Because it's a long span there. 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean that they're absolutely critical. It depends 263 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: on the age of the house. How old is the house. 264 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Do we have a slab house? What style of house 265 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: is it? It's like a California ranch. Are we on 266 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: a slab or are we on a raised foundation? What 267 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: are we talking about? 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, so California ranch a single story. 269 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: All right, single story California ranch. So typically there are exceptions, 270 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: but typically a California ranch is a relatively long, rectangular 271 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: kind of house and typically meaning you know, nine times 272 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: out of ten, maybe nine point nine times out of ten, 273 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: the bearing walls, the significant bearing walls in a California 274 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: ranch house are the four exterior walls, or you know, 275 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: obviously the exterior walls are all bearing walls. And then 276 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: you got that one wall, maybe two running down the hallway, 277 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: the central hallway out into the living room that divides 278 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: the living room from the family room or living them 279 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: from the dining room, with living room from the kitchen. Anyway, 280 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: you have a central wall, one of the hallway walls. 281 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: And if you go up into the attic and take 282 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: a look, you'll see braces coming down onto that wall. Okay, 283 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: one or the other. Now sometimes they hit both for 284 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: some reason, but one or the other. And so you 285 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: want to look for two things in the attic, not 286 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: just the braces coming down, but you want to dig 287 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: down in the insulation and take a look at the 288 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: ceiling joists that are you know, the boards that are 289 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: holding up the ceilings. The question is where do the 290 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: ceiling joists break, where do they end? Very rarely in 291 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: a ranch home, did they use a large enough joists, 292 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: the long enough joist that span all the way from 293 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: one side of the house all the way across to 294 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: the other. Occasionally, you know, there are always exceptions to 295 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: every rule, but most of the time the framers are 296 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: going to use joists that only go from the outside 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: wall onto the interior bearing wall, and then another joist 298 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: will lap against it and take off from there and 299 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: make the rest of the journey to the opposite outside wall. 300 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: So the wall that you see those joists and and 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: begin on probably the same wall that the braces are 302 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: coming down onto, that is the internal interior bearing wall 303 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: of the house. Does that make sense, That totally makes sense. Yeah, okay. 304 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: Does that complicate? Does that frustrate or complicate your problem 305 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: or solve it? 306 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm trying to I'm trying to replace the 307 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 6: closet door with pocket doors, which means I have to 308 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: remove the header and I have to put a new 309 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: header up there. 310 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I got you, all right? Yeah, well you know, okay, 311 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: so is it in that wall? Is the pocket door? 312 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: Is the door in that wall? Yes? Okay, yeah, yeah, 313 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: so yeah, you're going to have to replace the header. 314 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: But you know what, here's the good news. That's not 315 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: a real big structural issue. Really is not opening up 316 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: door a doorway from the you know from the thirty 317 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: two inches or thirty inches that it is already, and 318 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: doubling that double the size of the header as far 319 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: as its height. Excuse me, double the size of the 320 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: header as far as its height. Uh. And uh if 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: you're not, if you're not doing anything more than just 322 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: doubling the width of the door, and and you should 323 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: be good to go. You should be golden. 324 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: Do it? 325 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: Do I need support the ceiling while I'm doing that? 326 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Now? Yes, you should. Just to be safe, you should. 327 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: It's not a big span. It probably wouldn't notice it 328 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: if it was gone for an hour or two. Okay, 329 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: the header, but it's not a bad idea to just 330 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: temporarily support the ceiling while you're doing that kind of stuff. Well, Jeff, 331 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: I for one more quick question, fire away, my friend, 332 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: thank you. 333 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 6: I want to put a bathroom fan in a bathroom. 334 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 6: Is it? Does it matter if I put the exhaust 335 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 6: up through the roof or out through a saft, sideways 336 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 6: out through a safe. 337 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: It shouldn't really matter. Uh, some areas, you know that 338 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: this is always a kind of a gray area when 339 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: it comes to the code. I've had some inspectors say 340 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: tell me that that they want bathroom fans, you know, 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: right out to a positive connection to a roof vent 342 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: and out. I've had others say, you know, just run 343 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: it into the attic. Generally speaking, you want to convey 344 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: that air to the exterior, not just into the attic. Okay, 345 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: But whether you connect straight up or whether you go 346 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: horizontally over to a soft event, that's really not the 347 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: issue because it is a mechanical vent, meaning that we're 348 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: not required, you know, we're not dependent upon convection to 349 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 2: move the air out of that space and up the vent. 350 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: If that were the case, we'd want to keep it 351 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: as vertical as possible. But essentially, a bathroom fan is 352 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: no different than a dryer vent in that sense, and 353 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: that it's being powered by a blower and it's being 354 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: forced out, so it can run horizontally to an exterior 355 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: vent if you wanted to. 356 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 6: I was just worried about the moisture, kid. It was 357 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 6: going straight up and the moisture would come back down. 358 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Now no, it won't. It'll won't. It'll blow out and 359 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: and dissipate, and so you can go straight up or 360 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: sideways either way. 361 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: Good. 362 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Thanks, Jean. All right, Fred, thanks for the call, Bud, 363 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Great call, great question, great attitude. Sorry that 364 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: I disappointed him on the bearing wall story. But yeah, 365 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: that's the thing. Oh, by the way, bearing wall that 366 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: means that it's a one of the walls inside the 367 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: house that's actually bearing the weight of other parts of 368 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: the house. And you're like, isn't every wall in the 369 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: house doing that? No, not every wall. Some walls are 370 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: literally just what we call partition walls. There they run 371 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: up and they touch the ceiling, but they're not actually 372 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: holding anything up other than themselves. Those kinds of walls 373 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: can come down in your home without affecting the structure 374 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: of the house whatsoever. And if you live in kind 375 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: of a long, rectangular classic California ranch house, the most 376 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: of the walls that are running perpendicular to the length 377 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: of the house. Okay, if they're running parallel with the 378 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: length of the house, one of those hallway walls that 379 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: I was talking about, beware, that's a bearing wall. But 380 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: the walls that are running perpendicular to those almost always 381 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: non bearing walls. Good news, Good news, all right, think 382 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: about it. More of your calls when we return your 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper, Dean Sharp, the 384 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 2: House Whisper here to remind you your home deserves great design. 385 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter whether you live in a cottage or a castle. 386 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: It's all about the design, my friend, It's all about 387 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: the design. Before I go back to the phones here 388 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: real quick, for probably our last call of the show, 389 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: I got to ask Heather, Heather, are you with me? 390 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 7: I'm with you. 391 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: So you said the Grunion are running? Have you ever 392 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: seen a Grunion run? 393 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: I'm not, but I want to. 394 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: It's a sight to see, it really is. My parents 395 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: used to take me all the my parents. We were, 396 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: you know, anytime there was free food available somewhere or 397 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: we were on it. And so I have very fond memories. 398 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 7: Did you eat then, Oh, yeah you do. 399 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good eating now. 400 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 7: They they look like little slimy silverfish. 401 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, they're not as small as 402 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 2: a sardine. Uh, they're they're like they're like larger than 403 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: a sardine. Small, you know, about the size of a sunfish, 404 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: you know. And uh, you don't have to debone them 405 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: or anything because the bones are really soft. You can't 406 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: even feel them, but you just you you you gout 407 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: them and just fry them up in a pan. And uh, 408 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: they have a really really lovely kind of white fish. 409 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: They're really mild. They're not too fishy at all. But uh, 410 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: you know what, it's just I'm just you just you 411 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: just sparked the childhood memory because when they run, have 412 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: you ever been to the beach tried to catch a 413 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: sand crab? Because they come in on the tide and 414 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: then you see the little bubbles and you dig down 415 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: to try and find a sand crab down in there. 416 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 7: Dean, you are more outdoorsy than me. 417 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, you've never done it. 418 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is for anybody who has a grunion 419 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: is not even close to that. I mean, they're just 420 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: literally the wave comes in and and suddenly there are thousands. 421 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 7: Doesn't say there's thousands of them. 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: They're just laying on the sand. They're not there. They 423 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: takes them a while to try and dig in to 424 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: lay their eggs, so they're they're literally just laying there. 425 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: It's a turkey shoe. 426 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 7: And you just scoop them up and eat them. 427 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: You just you just get a bucket and you just 428 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: walk along the beach and uh and usually you know, 429 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: most parents tell the kids get out there, pick up 430 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: those fish and throw them in the bucket. And you 431 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: just bring in buckets of grunion. 432 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 7: That's such a sweet memory for you. But that sounds 433 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 7: a little too outdoorsy for me. 434 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, it is technically outdoors, so that may may preclude 435 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: that activity for you because it's not under you know, 436 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: a roof in a controlled environment. 437 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: That's right. 438 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: That's how I'm just saying. Grunion. They're they're fun. It's 439 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: a kick in the pant. You should at least go 440 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: down and see it happen. 441 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 7: I would like to see it. I think that's cool. 442 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: Well, how did all these fish wash up on shore? 443 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: It's just fun, it's fine, and you do it at 444 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: night with flashlights. Oh, but you gotta say this, Uh, 445 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: you need a fishing license. Don't be down there picking 446 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: up the grunion with You have to. 447 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: Have a license to pick up the fish that just 448 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 7: wash up on the shore. 449 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: You're fishing. You're fishing. 450 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 7: No, you're not using a line or real they're just washing. 451 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: Up, yes, but you're taking them. Okay, in California, you 452 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: gotta have you you gotta have your at least your 453 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: go get your day license. That's all I'm saying. Don't 454 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: get busted picking up stealing grunion without a fishing license. 455 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 7: Thousands, you get fined time out. 456 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: They're washing up on shore. Technically the fish are human ing. 457 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure that's true, saying they're like, take 458 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: me home. 459 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 7: All right, See this is he's got good info for us. 460 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, just telling you, just saying, all right, 461 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and squeeze one more calling here. Hopefully 462 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: Mark has grunions before. Hey, Mark, welcome home. Mark. Are 463 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: you with me? Did we lose Mark? 464 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 7: He's out grunioning right now? 465 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah no, I was out. 466 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: Gun. 467 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, there you are, real quick, my friend, real. 468 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: Quick, all right, real quick. We've split our time between 469 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: the beach and four acres that we have out in 470 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: Riverside County. Last summer, I built a fifty foot by 471 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: forty foot steeld garage for kind of a man cave. Yeah, 472 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: and for the on the inside. 473 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, fifty by forty fifty feet by forty kind 474 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: of a man cave. Kind of that's larger than my house. 475 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: But you know, I want to tractor you know that 476 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: sort of stuff, and neither place to keep everything. 477 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: I feel you on side. 478 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: On the inside, the square framing is ten foot by 479 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 5: ten foot on center, so I had to get fourteen 480 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: foot pieces of drywall, cut him down to or twelve 481 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: foot and cut him down to ten. So I did 482 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: two layers of drywall on the inside, but I still 483 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 5: have roughly nine feet eight or nine feet to go 484 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 5: to the finish up the walls. I don't necessarily want 485 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: to put drywall all the way up because there's some 486 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: horizontal or diagonal stringers that kind of support the steel framing. 487 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: I was looking. If you had a recommendation of some 488 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 5: sort of drywall type material, I can go from that 489 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: eight foot mark up to the fourteen foot mark. Kind 490 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 5: of inexpensive, but just to cover up the wires where 491 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: I ran an electrical and stuff, I got you. 492 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that there's anything less expensive than 493 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: drywall to do. That is the thing. I mean. There's 494 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: plenty of stuff that you can run. There's slat wall, 495 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: there's Duramax panels, there's but none of it's really less 496 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: expensive than just slapping drywall up. It's a pretty economical 497 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: solution for just covering up wall space. If you were 498 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: talking about the lower area, I'd be telling you, hey, 499 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: let's put in some slat wall and some Duramax panels 500 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: so you can hang tools and get some storage and 501 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: all of that, you know, functionality. But if we're talking 502 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: about the upper part up above, where nobody's even messing 503 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: with it, I honestly I think drywall is probably still 504 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: your best shot. 505 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. He just here runs in the prom where these 506 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: diagonal roof supports where they come down, it'd be a 507 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 5: lot of strange cuts with the drywall. 508 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand, but you know what, mark that is 509 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: just the price you pay for having a fifty by 510 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: forty foot man cave. 511 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you, Dahn. Plus, you know it's difficult 512 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: to find anything that's tenet long. 513 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. So you might 514 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: want to consider you might want to consider mid spanning 515 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: some of those those open spaces so that you can 516 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: just use smaller material. So a little bit of even 517 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: a introduction of a little bit of interior stud work. 518 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: And if you're concerned about moisture, use pressure tree and 519 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: find a way of bracing so you can get some 520 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, some midspan stuff and you smaller material. But 521 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: all in all, I don't know. I'm thinking dry wall 522 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: is still your best way, unless you're just gonna cover 523 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: it with vis queen or something like that. But it 524 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like that's what you want to do. And 525 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: just make the funky cuts. Make the funky cuts. First 526 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: world man cave problems, Mark, I feel you, but congratulations 527 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: on that, by the way. All right, y'all, great calls today, 528 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: great morning spending it with you. We're gonna be right 529 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: back here tomorrow for the big show talking about all 530 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: sorts of springtime issues for you and your home. Don't 531 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: miss it until then. 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