1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Twenty four after five o'clock. This is the ESPN fifteen 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: thirty Earnston Associate's Final Four Show, presented by Duimatt dot 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Com live from the Airport Gain and Body broadcast area 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. Our show today is also sponsored by 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: LinkedIn Ads. Reach your buyers with LinkedIn Ads. Spend two 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars and get a two hundred and 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: fifty dollars credit for your next campaign. Go to LinkedIn 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: dot com slash college basketball terms apply. You'll hear them 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: this weekend calling the Final Four for Westwood One, which 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: those broadcasts are heard on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Former 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: produced star Robbie Hummel you also see on the Big 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Ten Network CBS. His rise to one of the top 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: college basketball analyst spots has been pretty meteoric. I want 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: to start though, before we talk about this weekend. You 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: had your first ever Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout this past December. 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: You called UC and Xavier with Brian Anderson for TNT. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: You've been a part of a lot of great rivalry games, 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: You've called great rivalry games, But what was your first 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: shootout experience? 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: Like, Well, I've always had an appreciation from Afar of 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: this game because just in terms of when I was 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: in college watching the Yancy Gates to Holloway and I 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: did my pre draft stuff with twos, so I got 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: to know him pretty well. And you know, just from 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: following both programs and being a Midwest kid and you know, 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: appreciating good basketball and seeing a rivalry where the schools 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: really don't like each other. It's one of the great 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: rivalries in college basketball, and it's definitely one that does 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: not get talked nearly enough about. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: You know, Xavier and Cincinnati. 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Have great histories, There's been great players, and you know, 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: just walking into that building, you could feel how electric 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: it was. And you know, I know that for Cincinnati 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't the season they were hoping for and for 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Xavier there's a lot of hope with Richard Patino. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: But I loved it. I had a great time. 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: It was great to be with Brian Anderson, who's one 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: of the better play by play guys in the game. 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: And it just felt like a big game. It really did. 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's that's a pretty cool thing to 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: say about a rivalry when honestly, the teams are down 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: compared to what they've been at their best. 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: So I hope I could do it again. I really 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: do hope. 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: So So your career is interesting to me because remembering 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: you as a player, you pivoted pretty quickly from playing 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: to broadcasting. 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: Walk me through that. 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Well. 50 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: I hated playing overseas, so I went as a rookie. 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: I got drafted by the Timberwolves in the second round, 52 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 2: fifty eighth, and I go to Spain. Play you have 53 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: a really good season, come back play two years for 54 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: the Timberwolves. 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: Go to Milan. 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: I played for Armani's basketball team that he owned and 57 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: ended up hurting my shoulder, came back, had surgery, got 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: healthy once with the Nuggets, was the last cut in 59 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: training camp, went to Moscow, and Moscow like broke me. 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: Now. 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: When I was in Milan, I had hurt my shoulder 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: and had to come home in January, had shoulder surgery, 63 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: tore my labrum, and Big ten Network reached out. I 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: was like, would you want to do some studio? So 65 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: this is like twenty sixteen, and I did ten studio 66 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: and it ended up being something I'm like, you know, 67 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: I'd done the NBA sportscaster for you, and now I've 68 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: got this under my belt, and you know what I'm 69 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: gonna kind of when I was in Moscow, I couldn't 70 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: not go back overseas, and I wasn't gonna be in 71 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: the NBA anymore. So I made the decision to you know, 72 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: I auditioned to ESPN and got on there, and Miles 73 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: Simon had just taken a job, so they had their 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: an opening for their like second Big twelve crew and 75 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of Big ten, and then I was 76 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: at BTN and doing those games and it just kind 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: of worked out from there. 78 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: But it was I fell into it for sure, I 79 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: really did. 80 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: I love talking with players about their overseas experiences. I've 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: never talked to anybody who's played in Moscow. Yeah, walk 82 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: me through that experience. 83 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, I landed and I cried. So it was snowing 84 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: so hard. I mean, it's so cold in Moscow. But 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, some of the corruption is crazy. You know, 86 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: our owner admitted to bribing the refs in a playoff series. 87 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure they were doing the same thing. So it's 88 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: just it's an experience and it's a different one. But 89 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, I have good stories. 90 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: But I would not want to go back understand, understand, 91 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: let's talk about these games this weekend. You know you 92 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: have a big ten focus. Illinois, to me, the most 93 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: impressive thing I've seen anybody do in this tournament. You 94 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: may disagree, is I watched Illinois out Houston. Houston guarded 95 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: the heck guy, and to me, that answered a lot 96 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: of questions about brand Unwoods team. 97 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think their defense has made such strides in 98 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: the last month and a half. Now it will be 99 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: a different beast against Connecticut with the movement, the cutting, 100 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 2: the screening, the slipping, like just the discipline it takes 101 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: to switch off the ball against those guys and not. 102 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Just get slipped into oblivion. 103 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: But the way they guarded Houston, the way they guarded Iowa, 104 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: and those aren't two offensive juggernauts, but they handled Houston's 105 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: toughness and they really withstood a barrage of threes in 106 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: that first half from Iowa and just were the toughest 107 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: team in Houston. 108 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see if their defense can. 109 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Travel again and with standard and offense that can be 110 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: so potent with a coach like Danny Hurley. And I'm 111 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: also curious if you can remount with these guys. I mean, 112 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: Illinois just goes and goes and goes to the offensive glass. 113 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: It's their wings, you know. It's it's hard to keep 114 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: those guys off the glass. So I'm really intrigued by 115 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: the Caravan Mierkavic matchup. Americavich more interior, Caraban. We're on 116 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: the perimeter, a great cutter, you know, running off screens. 117 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued to see if Mirkavich can handle over and 118 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: on the flip side, if Caraban can guard Mirikovich on 119 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: the interior. 120 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: Sure. 121 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think Michigan, you think Arizona just two wagons, 122 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: you know, Arizona. Watching Cincinnati the way I did this season, 123 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: I don't know how you begin to prepare for everything 124 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: they do. And then Michigan with Landenborg, the size, the depth, 125 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: the different things they can do offensively. I think it's 126 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: one of the most interesting just battles matchups we've had 127 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: in a Final four National semifinal in quite a while. 128 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just it's two elite teams and two 129 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: of the best teams that we've had all season long. 130 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: The front courts are stacked. I mean you're looking at 131 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: Krevas Pete Awaka and Karchenkov going up against the Daimar 132 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Mores Johnson, the actual Levon Boar like that is as 133 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: good as it's going to be in the entirety of 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: the sport. You know, you look at the back and 135 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: if you're talking about just the one in the two, 136 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: I do think Arizona has the advant Jade Bradley, the 137 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: Big Twelve Player of the Year, Bradon Burry's is gonna 138 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: be a lottery pick. And for Michigan, they've got really 139 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: good players. Cano's hit a great year and Marrion Burnet's 140 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: hit a great year. But you probably look at the 141 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: overall talent you say that'd be advantaced to Arizona. So 142 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if Michigan's guards can raise their level. 143 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: And that calculus can be a bit different if you 144 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: throw Lendeborg in there and say he's in the back court. 145 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: But you know, you're just talking about two teams that 146 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: are so immune from poor three point shooting because they 147 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: live on the offensive glass, they live in the paint, 148 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: they get to the foul line. They've got big time defenses. 149 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: Michigan the best defense in the country. The variance of 150 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: shooting is really not. They're Arizona doesn't have to take them, 151 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: and Michigan can make them. They they'll take a ton, 152 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: but they they can get going from three. It'll be 153 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 2: an awesome game. Who can be the more physical team 154 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: and kind of set the tone in the Paint on 155 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 2: the Glass. 156 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Robbie Hummell, the former produced Star color analysts for the 157 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Final Four on Westwood One. You'll hear those broad cast 158 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow and Monday on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. It is 159 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: a twenty nine away from six o'clock. We're broadcasting from 160 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Radio Row in Indianapolis. 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