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Speaker 1: Where we go.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Jerry to Poto Mariner, president of Baseball Operations.

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Speaker 2: Been a while since Jerry has joined us on the program.

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Speaker 2: He'll be with us in about seventeen minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: Who's he talk a ton of Mariners with him. But well, last, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: you want to scrape together a few billion dollars and

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Speaker 2: buy the Seahawks because they are for sale, man, they

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Speaker 2: are for sale. The news coming out today, and again

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Speaker 2: this is not a shock because we've all known for

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Speaker 2: years that it was the last wishes of Paul Allen,

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Speaker 2: and the estate of Paul Allen, once he died eight

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Speaker 2: years ago, was instructed that when Paul Allen passes away,

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Blazers eventually had to be sold

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Speaker 2: and the entirety of the proceeds donated to charity.

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Speaker 3: We just never knew when how long would it be.

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Speaker 2: There were some rumors that maybe Jody can hang onto

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Speaker 2: this thing for twenty years and then get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Well, the news came out today and I don't necessarily know,

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Speaker 2: Dick if the Seahawks wanted this out or not. Brady

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Speaker 2: Henderson Seth Wickersham both reporting that after the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: next Sunday, the Seahawks will go up for sale. I

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Speaker 2: do have a statement, by the way, from a spokesperson

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Speaker 2: from Paul Allen's estate who says, quote, we don't comment

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Speaker 2: on rumors or speculation. The team is not for sale.

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Speaker 2: We've already said that will change at some point per

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Speaker 2: Paul's wishes.

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Speaker 3: But I have no news to share.

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Speaker 2: Our focus right now is winning the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: completing the sale of the Blazers in the coming months.

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Speaker 2: So again, I don't think this is something the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: necessarily wanted to put out there. It got dug up

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Speaker 2: by a couple of reporters, and we'll see, obviously how

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Speaker 2: much legs this has when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 3: But Dick, we both know.

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Speaker 2: At some point there's going to be a new owner.

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Speaker 2: At some point, there will be a new owner of

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and we have to have the conversation about

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Speaker 2: who that person is and how good of a steward

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Speaker 2: they will be.

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Speaker 3: Am.

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Speaker 2: I over to concern about the Seahawks moving, No, Am

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Speaker 2: I concerned about a new owner coming in and not

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Speaker 2: having the success that Paul Allen and Jody Allen have had.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, of course, I mean, look.

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Speaker 2: From nineteen seventy six to nineteen ninety six before all

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Speaker 2: about the team, they went to the playoffs four times,

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Speaker 2: four with one conference championship.

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Speaker 3: We thought the were pretty good owners too since they

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Speaker 3: took over.

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Speaker 2: Since the Allens have taken over, they've been there seventeen

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Speaker 2: times with four Super Bowls. So I do think eventually

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Speaker 2: when there is a new owner, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 2: angst as to, hey, how is this guy or gal

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Speaker 2: going to run this thing? And will they run it

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Speaker 2: as effectively as Paul Allen and Jody Allen?

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Speaker 3: And will they get along with John Schneider.

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Speaker 4: And that's my one big, one big concern right there,

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Speaker 4: because you don't want John Schneider to go anywhere, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure. But you know, for the life of me,

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Speaker 4: I can't think of one reason why the Seahawks would

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Speaker 4: want this outright, right, So I am I am assuming

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Speaker 4: that the Seahawks do not want this, and this is

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Speaker 4: terrible timing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it is if you want

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Speaker 2: to make it a thing, right, I mean, does it

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Speaker 4: No, And that's why maybe we should just touch on

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Speaker 4: it for this segment and say that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the less the less we talk about it, the

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Speaker 2: less of a distraction it becomes. We have that kind

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Speaker 2: of power here on the radio show. Well, a guy

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Speaker 2: that knows a thing or two, Dick, you know as

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Speaker 2: well as I do. He knows the Allen family, he

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Speaker 2: knows the inner workings of what's happening with the Blazers

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Speaker 2: ownership group, the Seahawks ownership group. Honestly, this guy, really,

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you guys, is not really great

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Speaker 2: at anything, but he's really great at covering the estate

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Speaker 2: of Paul Allen. And that's why he's on the show

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Speaker 2: with us right now. Our friend John Cainzano Bald Faced

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Speaker 2: Truth radio show John Canzono dot Com with us now

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Speaker 2: on the program, Johnny, how.

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Speaker 5: Are you putt Thank you for that great introduction. I

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Speaker 5: appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: My beat is has been dead for a while and this, Hey,

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Speaker 6: how about the Seahawks can for a moment. Guy, You

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Speaker 6: guys sort of did justice to it, but I want

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Speaker 6: I want to say it again. Yeah, Wow, this is

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Speaker 6: a team that's going to go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: They're going to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, they are

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Speaker 6: the better team they're gonna win it.

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Speaker 5: That's great. Now what happens after.

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Speaker 3: Well talking about it?

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Speaker 2: And there's gonna be Look, I mean we talked about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday. Every year on Radio Row, there's always a

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Speaker 2: big story, a big theme, and you know, Belichick not

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Speaker 2: making the Hall of Fame and now the Seahawks being

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about this.

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Speaker 2: The estate of Paul Allen has come out with a

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Speaker 2: statement saying the team is not for sale. We know

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Speaker 2: eventually they will be for sale. Are we talking about

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Speaker 2: some manics here? What do you make of what you

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Speaker 6: Everything's for sale? They are putting that out because you

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Speaker 6: guys nailed it. They don't want this out there. This

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Speaker 6: wasn't their choice. They do not want to be a distraction.

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Speaker 6: They've got, you know, they've got a Lombardi Trophy to

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Speaker 6: is a little bit of a distraction. And if you're

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Speaker 6: the Patriots, you're sitting back going, okay, we've got a.

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Speaker 5: Little break here.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're an underdog team, but this could potentially

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Speaker 6: be a little bit more of a distraction. Of course,

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Speaker 6: for the Seahawks and anybody else. But look, the artwork sold,

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Speaker 6: the yachts sold, the real estate sold. Everything that didn't

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Speaker 6: sort of rank the hierarchy of what was important to

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Speaker 6: by Jody in the estate she held the Blazers, she's

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Speaker 6: they're now in transition. Tom Dundan has pretty much taken

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Speaker 6: Jody Allen in this thing in Seattle. You saw her

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Speaker 6: thing and her friends love the Seahawks, and this is

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Speaker 4: Yep, John did this come out today just because the

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Speaker 4: Hawks are in the national news and it gets more clicks?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what is the new news that we've learned

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Speaker 6: They're playing the game that I played. Right after the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks won the NFC championship. The column I wrote the

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Speaker 6: next day was, look at Jody, how long before she

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Speaker 6: sells this team? Because you you know, they say you

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Speaker 6: franchise is going to be sky high. So these reporters,

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Speaker 6: naturally they cover the NFL. They are getting this from

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Speaker 6: the NFL office, They're getting this from other owners. They

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Speaker 6: did what I did. They started calling their sources saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: Because it makes sense right Like it's.

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Speaker 6: It's just like the Boston Celtics after they recently won

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Speaker 6: wants to bid on it?

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Speaker 5: This would be wise for Jody.

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Speaker 6: Allen and Bert cold who are you know, who are

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Speaker 6: you know engineering this final piece of Paul's estate going away? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it would be wise and By the way, why not

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Speaker 5: This is what you know.

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Speaker 6: It's not gonna get better for Jody than being the

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Speaker 6: trustee slash owner of a team that wins the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, would have been nice to wait until next Monday

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Speaker 2: to maybe have this story come out. I'm with you

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Speaker 2: on that, But John, I guess the question is John

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Speaker 2: Gonzano again with us Seahawks reportedly are up for sale

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Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl is over, Jody Allen going to

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Speaker 2: have to move on and sell that thing as per

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Speaker 2: the wish of Paul Allen. How much angst should Seahawks

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Speaker 2: fans have over this right, whether either a the horrific

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Speaker 2: whoever it is, is going to come in and not

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Speaker 6: I think I would look if I were an anxious

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Speaker 5: Like Portland fans look at Jody Allen and go. She

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Speaker 6: It didn't work, It wasn't worth the damn But do

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Speaker 6: She handed the autonomy to John Schneider, who has done

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Speaker 6: more than the Blazers. I will not buy that her

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Speaker 6: then secondarily, the NFL more forgiving league, with the way

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Speaker 6: a chance to get to the super Bowl, and the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks have a great GM.

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Speaker 5: And I also would say, hey, look, this was a trustee.

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Speaker 5: This wasn't an owner.

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Speaker 6: Imagine an owner who comes in and loves the franchise.

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Speaker 6: If I'm an owner coming in, I want John Schneider

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Speaker 6: running that franchise.

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Speaker 5: I do not want to lose momentum.

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Speaker 6: If I'm Jeff Bezos, I didn't get the Commanders, I

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Speaker 6: got out bid.

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Speaker 5: This is this is a great opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about. That is Bezos

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Speaker 3: far and away to the leaning Canada.

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Speaker 6: John, I think your mind just goes there because in

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Speaker 6: this era where these teams are worth four or five, six,

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Speaker 6: seven billion dollars, and I'm talking about teams across the

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Speaker 6: NBA and whatnot, you don't get just one person coming in.

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Speaker 5: Tom Dundan's not buying the Blazers.

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Speaker 6: He's putting about seven hundred million into what is like

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Speaker 6: a four and a half billion dollar, four and a

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Speaker 6: quarter billion dollar sale. So you know, very small percentage

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Speaker 5: But Bezos is one of those guys. He got out bid.

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Speaker 6: He bid six point zero five billion for the Commanders,

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Speaker 5: People told him this isn't the team for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: There's only so many of them.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're a billionaire or you're a billionaire

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Speaker 5: And if you are the Seahawks.

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Speaker 6: Right, I think you if you're a Seahawks fan, I

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Speaker 6: Why Because Jody Allen and this franchise and John Schneider

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, if not Bezos, then who I mean? Bomber's

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Speaker 5: Like did she? Is she a better equipped owner?

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Speaker 2: Johnny great stuff in a pinch. Appreciate this, Bud. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk soon. Always man John Canzana with us. Maybe Jerry

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Speaker 2: Depoto wants to buy the Seahawks. He's making a lot

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Speaker 2: of money. But whether Jerry got a big fat bonus

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Speaker 3: He's got that much money, let's put it into payroll.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's see if he's interested. We'll talk to

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Speaker 5: I want to take the twelve best tags in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's timed a party like it's two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: The murders are.

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Speaker 7: The twenty twenty five American League.

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Speaker 2: What champions wait too well.

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Speaker 7: Loo good see today we sit CMO today are today

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Speaker 7: Championship series to the boys time mid two d boom.

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Speaker 3: I love it, man, I love it, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Lots going on today on the radio station. Hugh Millan

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Speaker 2: Wroth with Mike Holmgren yesterday, you're here that coming up

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Speaker 2: We're hearing, by the way, that he agreed to come

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Speaker 2: he would like to make a bid to buy the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks from Jody Allen, the Baseball America Executive of the Year,

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Speaker 2: Put your hands together, President of Baseball Operations for the Mariners,

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Speaker 2: Jerry to Poto with us on the air.

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Speaker 3: Jerry how are you.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? I actually just surfaced from searching for what

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Speaker 3: Hey man, we're right there with you.

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Speaker 2: You want to do a little gofund me, a little

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Speaker 2: big sale, we would, we would join you and make

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Speaker 2: it happen. But first of all, thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since we've had you on the air.

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Speaker 2: Love having you on and from everybody here. Number one,

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Speaker 2: congratulations on a hell of a run that you guys

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just ask you flat out, Jared, what

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Speaker 1: lineup and the ability to grow those young players. And

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Speaker 1: you know that obviously didn't work out in Polos now

438
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Speaker 1: in New York, but there are other alternatives and we're

439
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Speaker 1: open to figuring out how that works for us. But

440
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Speaker 1: what is always going to be a thing for us

441
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Speaker 1: is trying to put ourselves in a position to continue

442
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Speaker 1: to grow our foundation and you know, we have a

443
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Speaker 1: good team, We have a good aspects system, we have

444
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Speaker 1: good young players, we have good prime players, we have stars,

445
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Speaker 1: and we need to maintain that balance. And you know,

446
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Speaker 1: we have our eyes on a few players that we

447
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Speaker 1: think can can make that happen for us, and remains

448
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Speaker 1: to be seen if we can bring one of them in.

449
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the additions.

450
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Speaker 4: Tell Mariner fans what you got from the Nats and

451
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Speaker 4: that Harry Ford trade and also how Ref Snyder fits

452
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Speaker 4: in the lineup.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, first of all, start with with

454
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Speaker 1: ref Schneider. Reff. You know, for the last four years

455
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Speaker 1: in Boston, Robert Repschneider has very quietly been one of

456
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Speaker 1: the best half dozen hitters in the league versus left

457
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Speaker 1: hand pitching. And you know, he was he was on

458
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Speaker 1: our list of interesting players to add. And you know,

459
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Speaker 1: until we knew what was going to happen with Jorge Polanco,

460
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Speaker 1: we didn't officially you know, push in or engage him

461
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Speaker 1: with a contract offer. And truly that was our pivot

462
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Speaker 1: once we moved to the point where Polo was out,

463
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Speaker 1: and you know, he pairs incredibly well with Luke Rayley

464
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Speaker 1: and with Dom Canzo. You know, between the three of

465
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Speaker 1: them and Victor Roeblace. We feel like right field, DH

466
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Speaker 1: and even extra outfield are all covered, you know, by

467
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Speaker 1: those four players and ref very. If you sort at

468
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Speaker 1: an advanced look w RC plus ops plus even raw

469
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Speaker 1: ops versus left hand pitching, you'll see the Aaron Judges

470
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Speaker 1: and the superstar players in the game. And then lo

471
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Speaker 1: and behold there's Rob rep Schneider and pretty awesome. He's

472
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Speaker 1: also a great makeup guy with leadership skill, and we

473
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Speaker 1: think he fits Jose Ferrera on the other end of

474
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Speaker 1: the spectrum. He's twenty five years old, he comes with

475
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Speaker 1: four years of club control, has electric stuff. We identified

476
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Speaker 1: him years ago as a potential impact pitcher and more recently,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, we felt like he was on the verge

478
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Speaker 1: of really exploding, and he took over the closer job

479
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Speaker 1: in Washington at the trade deadline. Did a nice job,

480
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Speaker 1: you knows. He hit one hundred and one with his

481
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Speaker 1: fastball as a left hander, sits around ninety eight, which

482
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Speaker 1: is I think a role as Chapman is the only

483
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Speaker 1: left handed pitcher in the league that throws harder on

484
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Speaker 1: average than Jose Ferrer. He's got incredible sync to his fastball,

485
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Speaker 1: tough to get, you know, airborne. He also has two

486
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Speaker 1: plus secondaries and an impact change up to round it out.

487
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Speaker 1: He's been dynamic versus left hand hitters, he has been

488
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Speaker 1: very good versus rights, and we feel like our ballpark

489
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Speaker 1: will really take him from a super interesting subset to

490
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Speaker 1: a higher end performer and he'll fit right in with

491
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Speaker 1: Andre's Munoz and Matt Brash and Gabe Spyer in our

492
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Speaker 1: high leverage. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Baseball America Executive of the Year, Jerry Depoto

494
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Speaker 2: is with us. That sounds pretty good, man, rolling that

495
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Speaker 2: off the tongue, and we're gonna we're gonna get your

496
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Speaker 2: thoughts on your counterpart of the Seahawks, by the way,

497
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Speaker 2: because John just couldn't let you have the spotlight. For

498
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Speaker 2: God's sakes, he had to go win the Executive of

499
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Speaker 2: the Year two in the NFL. So we are your

500
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Speaker 2: thoughts on that in a minute. But let me ask you, Jerry,

501
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Speaker 2: you mentioned going out and getting a bat. I don't

502
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Speaker 2: know if this would qualify or not from what fans

503
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Speaker 2: think of when you say linked in the lineup a

504
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Speaker 2: little bit, maybe it would. Uh is bringing you Henio

505
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Speaker 2: Suarez back? Is there any interest in your perspective.

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Speaker 1: In doing them well, always the interesting, it's nothing else.

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Speaker 1: And Gino knows this. You know he's from a from

508
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Speaker 1: a personal favorite of mine. You know he is. He's

509
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Speaker 1: beloved here or the guys in the clubhouse love him. Uh.

510
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Speaker 1: And there's we go through an off season, we lay

511
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Speaker 1: out many different types of plan and you know, we'll

512
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Speaker 1: never shut the door on the idea of bringing back

513
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Speaker 1: players that fit for us. Uh. He fits emotionally, but

514
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Speaker 1: there's unlike the fit with Jorge Polanco, that could be

515
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Speaker 1: problematic to continuing to grow our roster. So it's a

516
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Speaker 1: different type of decis But you know it's a love Geno.

517
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Speaker 1: He's done phenomenal things for our organization and two different

518
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Speaker 1: trips and I will never forget the home run that

519
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Speaker 1: he hit against Toronto to send us back to Canada

520
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: to in the ALCS. But I don't know where it

521
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Speaker 1: will end up. I know that he will make an

522
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Speaker 1: impact for somebody next year, and it's not out of

523
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Speaker 1: the question. It could be us, but I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: that's likely at this point.

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Speaker 4: Jerry, how do you balance veteran stability with allowing guys

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Speaker 4: like Ben Williamson and Cole Young to develop at the

527
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Speaker 4: major league level.

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Speaker 1: You know, like that you find versatile players, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: as one of the beauties of Jorge planco Is. You know,

530
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Speaker 1: while while Cole young during the heat of the summer

531
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Speaker 1: was you know, he went through about a six week

532
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Speaker 1: stretch where he was about as good offensively as any

533
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Speaker 1: second base in the American League, and then he cooked out.

534
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Speaker 1: You know, he started to take on a little bit

535
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Speaker 1: of water and struggled as we headed into September and

536
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Speaker 1: the postseason, and you know, Polo stepped in and cover

537
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Speaker 1: second dates. Similarly at the start of the season when

538
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Speaker 1: we were you know, trying to figure out how to

539
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Speaker 1: backfill third base, which had been a problem spot for

540
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Speaker 1: about a year. You know, Polo started the season there

541
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Speaker 1: and when he was unable to continue at least defensively,

542
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Speaker 1: he went into a DH role and he raked and

543
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Speaker 1: that gave Ben Williamson an opportunity to cut his teeth

544
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, finding players who are versatile,

545
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Speaker 1: who can contribute in different ways while you continue to

546
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Speaker 1: grow those young guys is incredibly important. But you know,

547
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Speaker 1: if you can find the right impact and the impact

548
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Speaker 1: is just greater, then you can expect out of the

549
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Speaker 1: young player's growth, then you bet on the now. But

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Speaker 1: for the most part, we're always going to be conscious

551
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Speaker 1: of finding a way to continue to evolve. You've hurt

552
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Speaker 1: me use the word sustainability right at nauseum through the years,

553
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Speaker 1: and well, it's a very important factor in how we

554
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Speaker 1: continue to grow our team, and we will do that.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite buzzwords of yours, by the way, sustainability,

556
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Speaker 2: I mean sustainability in baseball, and the seafood at Duke's

557
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: Restaurant always sustainable. I mean, I just cannot get away

558
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Speaker 2: from that word, man, And it worked last year for

559
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: you guys, no doubt, and hopefully we'll work for a while.

560
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Speaker 2: But Jerry Depoto's with us, and Jerry, it's amazing that

561
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Speaker 2: you've been on here now for fifteen minutes and nobody

562
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Speaker 2: here has asked you about how much money you have

563
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Speaker 2: to spend it right, if we can't, we can't do

564
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Speaker 2: an interview with you and not ask you about your payroll,

565
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Speaker 2: for God's sakes, that would just not be That would

566
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Speaker 2: not be right. So how would you characterize what you're

567
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Speaker 2: working with? Is it significant?

568
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Speaker 3: Marginal? For fans that just wonder, Hey, how much money.

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Speaker 3: What's the budget that.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about here that Jerry and Justin have to

571
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Speaker 2: work with. How would you characterize that.

572
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Speaker 1: Same as I did at the beginning of the off season.

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Speaker 1: You know, we finished last year with a record high

574
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Speaker 1: payroll number for the Mariners, and the goal going into

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Speaker 1: this year was that at minimum that it's going to

576
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Speaker 1: be where we start. And you know, but that's not

577
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Speaker 1: a thumb tack to say we must start at this

578
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Speaker 1: number simply because I think we have enough money left,

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Speaker 1: uh before we even get to that line that I

580
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Speaker 1: feel confident we could go out and sign, you know,

581
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Speaker 1: be it in the free agent market or or player

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Speaker 1: to acquire the players we're looking for who could fill

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Speaker 1: the void. And and and I know that that, in

584
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Speaker 1: combination with the flexibility that we have and have always had,

585
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Speaker 1: as we get into you know, mid season trade deadline,

586
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Speaker 1: we have we have more than enough. We have what

587
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Speaker 1: we need and we are going to we are again

588
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Speaker 1: likely to set an all time record high for for

589
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Speaker 1: marin or payroll, which is the way it should be

590
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Speaker 1: when you're playing as well as this team's playing, and

591
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Speaker 1: you know, I think we are. If we're not a

592
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: divisional favorite, then we're right there among them, and I

593
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Speaker 1: think we're as good as anybody's got a chance to

594
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Speaker 1: go win the American League.

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Speaker 3: So how does that work in July?

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Speaker 4: Because obviously, as you mentioned, would you been very active

597
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Speaker 4: in July and very successful in July? Is that just

598
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Speaker 4: a separate pot of money that you mid mid July

599
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Speaker 4: you just walk into John's office and say, this is

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Speaker 4: what we need to do here because we think we're

601
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Speaker 4: in it, or how does that work vis a v

602
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Speaker 4: Your budget at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the budget at the beginning of the season is

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Speaker 1: the budget, you know, And I think you know, they're

605
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Speaker 1: at least twenty eight teams to have a budget, and

606
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: I think the you know, for for us, we've always

607
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: operated that if we are in a position to do

608
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Speaker 1: something impactful that we feel like can can create a

609
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Speaker 1: push for the postseason in that year, or like we

610
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: have in recent years, acquiring players who fit for multiple seasons.

611
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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's always an entirely separate discussion. And

612
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, I've said this for years. We've never you know,

613
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Speaker 1: we've never not had the resources when we've needed them,

614
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Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, I think in the last

615
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Speaker 1: four years, especially, we've we're not adding players who are

616
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Speaker 1: you know, making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars over minimum.

617
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Speaker 1: We're we're adding players who are making twelve fifteen million

618
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: dollars annually. And it's when it's Josh Naylor's and Gino's

619
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Speaker 1: and and you know, Louis Castillo's and Randia rose Arenas.

620
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Speaker 1: We've often used the the trade deadline as an opportunity.

621
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Speaker 1: You know, we use it as a free agent market,

622
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Speaker 1: so to speak. We're just trading prospects to get players

623
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Speaker 1: who we target, and you know, and we've taken payroll

624
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Speaker 1: up in that time. You know, another easy, I guess

625
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: point to make about the trade deadline is we'll use it.

626
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Speaker 1: Take a ten million dollar player as an example. You know,

627
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: at the at the trade deadline, you know, if you

628
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Speaker 1: want to acquire ten million dollar player, you really only

629
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: need five million dollars in budget space because you're halfway

630
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Speaker 1: through the season. And you know, if if you position

631
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Speaker 1: yourself well and and we always have, and if you

632
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Speaker 1: have an ownership that is willing to get aggressive at

633
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Speaker 1: that moment, and we always have, it's you know, we

634
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Speaker 1: may not start the season with the with what looks

635
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: like a dynamic Los Angeles Dodgers lineup. But we've never

636
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Speaker 1: had the issue of going out and making those moves

637
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Speaker 1: and and you know, stacking on top of what we've

638
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: already done, which was the case last year. You know,

639
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: I think last year we added ten million dollars at

640
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Speaker 1: the at the deadline. And that's uh, there isn't a

641
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Speaker 1: side account for per trade deadline. That is that is

642
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Speaker 1: just saying we are good.

643
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Speaker 2: Let's take a run by Jerry before you go real quick,

644
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: our cold Emerson and Kate Anderson ready in your mind

645
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: to make a contribution this year.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, and Kate Anderson, My easy answer is,

647
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Speaker 1: I don't know. He looks fabulous in his bullpens still

648
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: has you know, he's thrown a he threw a live

649
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: versus hitters yesterday, but he's not yet thrown a professional pitch.

650
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: You know. That Being said, he was the best college

651
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: pitcher in the country pitching in a big conference against

652
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: the best competition. I don't think he's going to spend

653
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: much time in the low minors, and he's got the polish,

654
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the stuff and the makeup to make a pretty quick journey. Colt,

655
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: on the other hand, has played through the minor leagues,

656
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: finished in Tacoma. He's a very real chance to make

657
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: our opening day roster. And you know, if we don't

658
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: see him on opening day, I don't think it's going

659
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: to be terribly long before he impacts our club. I

660
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: would be shocked if he didn't have some type of,

661
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, fingerprint on what we do in twenty twenty

662
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: six and then for many years after that. He's a

663
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: special player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jerry, before you go, and again, we appreciate

665
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: doing this. I mean a lot of people are asking,

666
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: is this like the golden age of Seattle sports right now?

667
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: Man?

668
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: And you look, I mean you're a gigantic part of that.

669
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: I mean clearly.

670
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean the Seahawks and Mariners have never held division

671
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: championships at the same time ever in fifty years.

672
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: And you're the executive of the year.

673
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: John Schneider is the executive of the year across the

674
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: lake at the vMac, and I wonder how much do

675
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: you guys talk and you know, do you learn anything

676
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: from your counterpart across the lake in the NFL out.

677
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't talked to John in a couple

678
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: of years, but he's a great guy, and uh, you know,

679
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: I follow what they do in these I will say

680
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: this that what the Hawks do, how they do it,

681
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: the way they build a roster, the thing, you know,

682
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: the tenants they lay out or the pillars that they

683
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: build around, are very similar to how we are wired.

684
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: And you know, and in the time that I've been

685
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: here and watching the way they are built and the

686
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: way they manage their player roster is really similar. And

687
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's awesome to get a chance

688
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: to sit and watch, you know, people do it the

689
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: right way. And I admire John and the group. They've

690
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: done fascinating things. And you know, if there's not a

691
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: convincing enough resume into what a great NFL executive looks

692
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: like or what a franchise should be, they've been there.

693
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: They've been there multiple times that they're they're at. They're

694
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: on the dance floor year after year, and and that's

695
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: the goal. And I I admire that they not only

696
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: did they do it, but kind of similar to what

697
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: we did a handful of years ago. You know, they

698
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: pulled back, they revamped the roster in a way that

699
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe some people didn't quite understand in the moment. And

700
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: now we're all reaping the benefit of what I think

701
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: was good for sighted on John in the group's part.

702
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

703
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Hey man, thanks for doing this, appreciate it. Best to

704
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: luck the rest of the way and building this thing

705
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: over the off season. And we'll talk soon.

706
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Man, Thanks very thanks, guys, go hu you bet.

707
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: I love it. Jerry Depoto with us on the radio show. Wow.

708
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: A couple of good things there, a couple of nuggets.

709
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: As they say in the business, what do you say

710
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: we break? And we got to talk about that. We

711
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: got to talk about the big news involving the Seahawks

712
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: that came down this afternoon too. Next on ninety three

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Speaker 2: three KJRFF Now back.

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Speaker 7: To Football Friday, sponsored by Tito's handmade Fuck Your Home

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Speaker 7: for the NFL Sports Radio ninety three point three k On.

716
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: We'll always be interested, if nothing else. And Gino knows this.

717
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: You know he's from a from a personal favorite of mine.

718
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: You know he is, He's beloved. Here are the guys

719
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse love him. I know that he will

720
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: make an impact for somebody next year, and it's not

721
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: out of the question that could be us, but I

722
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's likely at this point.

723
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: There you go.

724
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto saying, don't get comfortable with the idea of

725
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: au Haaneo Suarez coming back. If we're gonna build this

726
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: thing from the ground up and give our young guys

727
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: a shot, Ben Williamson, then we're gonna need to move

728
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: on from guys like au Haaneo Suarez.

729
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you never know.

730
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, you could come back and play for five million

731
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: dollars next year and all of a sudden he's, you know,

732
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: on your bench or in your infield. But I do

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: think that the idea of young and Williamson and Naylor

734
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: and JP Crawford, I don't feel that great about that idea.

735
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Speaker 3: I'd like to bring in one more veteran in that mix.

736
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Speaker 2: He did say the addition of Ref Schneider, along with

737
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Speaker 2: Don can Zone, Luke Railey and Victor Robless, he believes

738
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: solves their right field dh additional outfield spot.

739
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: All that.

740
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: So, I don't know if there's gonna be a player

741
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: Dick that comes in to replace the production they lost

742
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: from Hore Polonko in free agency when he walked off

743
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: to the Mets. And they think they're gonna count on

744
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: some young guys to potentially replace the Johanio Suarez and

745
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: his numbers last year. But you know, look, man, I

746
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: mean just you know, getting him on along with John Schneider,

747
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: who obviously are both the executives of the year. John

748
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: Schneider's done what Jerry hasn't done, and that's win a championship.

749
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: And if you're gonna do this where you kind of

750
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: break it all down and go with some young guys,

751
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: the end goal is a title, and those are hard

752
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: to do in baseball, especially in this market with what's

753
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: happening in LA in New York and other places across

754
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: the country, by the way, So it also does feel

755
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: like maybe this is I'm not gonna say the windows closing,

756
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: because that's ridiculous, but you're going to in the next

757
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: couple two three years start paying a lot of players

758
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: a lot of money that are on your roster right now.

759
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like if there's ever a window where you

760
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: feel like, all right, our best chance is right now,

761
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: you're kind of right in the middle of that, if

762
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: not maybe the tail end of it, I'd.

763
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Speaker 3: Say the middle.

764
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Speaker 4: But because your farm system is so good, and I

765
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 4: know it doesn't necessarily translate to major league talent, but Hey,

766
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: if I've got if I've got twenty good lottery tickets

767
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: in my farm system, I got a better chance than

768
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: if I have five good lottery tickets and my farm system.

769
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: So I'm going to assume that a few of those

770
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: guys are gonna pop over the next four or five years.

771
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: But I do think that I mean, he mentioned he

772
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 4: wants to bring in one more impact bat, which would

773
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: be the replacement for Polanco, and then Ben Williamson is

774
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: the replacement for Suarez, whereas Suarez is a better offensive player,

775
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: but Ben Win Williamson is clearly a better defensive player,

776
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: and we just have to see what's Ben Williamson's high

777
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: end offensively.

778
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 3: That's really gonna be the question.

779
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: The thing about the prospects for me is that you

780
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: say they don't necessarily turn into stars, which obviously is true.

781
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: But what they can turn into is bona fide, legitimate

782
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: major league talent right now. I mean, you gave up

783
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: two of them for Josh Naylor Chips, right, So, I mean,

784
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 2: that's that's where I'm coming from. And I think kind

785
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: of part of the issue now with what's happening in

786
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: free agency is that most of the best free agent

787
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: players available are pitchers.

788
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you like Baseball America.

789
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

790
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: USA Today did a story a couple days ago with

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: their top remaining free agents, and Haaneol Suarez was the

792
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: best bat available in free agency, right, So that that

793
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: ship is kind of come and gone with the big

794
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: name guys, obviously, But there's always room for making deals.

795
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: There's always room for making trades, right. I mean, you

796
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: just gave up Harry Ford for a reliever. Is he

797
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: going to start sniffing around Luis Castillo and see what

798
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: he can command in the trade market when it comes to,

799
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, maybe an offensive team out there that is

800
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: maybe you know, a little bit defunct when it comes

801
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: to pitching. Is he going to think about moving one

802
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: of his young young guns in the minor league system

803
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: for a big bot to help this baseball team. But

804
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: I do think you can't rest on your laurels. You

805
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: can't rely on Cal Rowley hitting sixty home runs again.

806
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean that may never happen again for cal Rawley.

807
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: You can't rely on that. And you gotta kind of

808
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: a career year in a lot of ways with Hora Polonko,

809
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: and you got to replace that. But hey man, good

810
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: for him. I mean, the Mariners are on a roll.

811
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: Fan Fast has sold out obviously this weekend. Nobody's really

812
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: complaining a couple of stragglers about the TV deal they

813
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: just announced a couple of days ago. That tells you

814
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: right there where people are with the Mariners that if

815
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: they're not bitching about how much they're charging for TV,

816
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: they're not nearly as pissed off as they were a

817
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: year ago.

818
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: Well, we got surprised on both sides last year by

819
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 4: the Mariners. We got surprised pleasantly offensively, and we got

820
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: surprised with all the injuries to the pitching staff, right,

821
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: And so I think it should level out a little

822
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: bit this year.

823
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: The offense won't be as good.

824
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: I am positive the offense won't be as good as

825
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: it was at least at the end of last season. Right,

826
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: But I'm also pretty certain that you're not gonna miss

827
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: like twenty starts twenty five starts total from your top

828
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: five pitchers.

829
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, Dick.

830
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely than not that you have

831
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: some guys misstarts, right, and that you're gonna have to

832
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 2: dip into your depth.

833
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: And there was a lot.

834
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: For sure, but they also did pretty.

835
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: Good in those games, right, I mean, I don't know.

836
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean Logan Evans is out now for a year. Yeah, okay,

837
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: he was going to be part of your depth. Kate

838
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: Anderson gets bumped up, bumped up and remember a couple

839
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: of ye seven guy now right, Yeah, I'm gonna felt

840
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: like they had a lot more depth than their rotation.

841
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask Jerry about that, but we had

842
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: to get to a break that. I think they're still

843
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: looking for, maybe one like who is the guy kykl

844
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: They brought in Dallas Kykele, remember just a couple of

845
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: years ago, and then he obviously retired, but they brought

846
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 2: in a guy like that for a reason in case

847
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: we need some depth in our rotation. And I don't

848
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: know if they have that depth they had a couple

849
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: of years ago, so I'm not I'm not going to

850
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: rule out the idea of them going out and getting

851
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: another starting pitcher. Dick Fane for this for this baseball team,

852
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Well we got.

853
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: That going on.

854
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: Big thanks to Jerry for jumping on. Fan Fest again

855
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: sold out this weekend, but you can follow all that

856
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: stuff on the Mariners website. There's big news involving the

857
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: Seahawks on two fronts. Number One, if you haven't heard

858
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: they're playing in the Super Bowl, what in nine days

859
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: from now?

860
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: Don't know? Somebody somewhere, Yes, there's.

861
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: Some goofball nerd complete goober that has no idea came

862
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: back from like.

863
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: A month and a half long trip to Maldives.

864
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: So dude, I bet you if you walk down Fourth

865
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: or Fifth Avenue right now and you just grabbed one

866
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: hundred people, one of them, absolutely one of us, I

867
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: would would know the Hawks are not playing or they

868
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: that they're not that they're playing in the super Bowl

869
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: on Sunday. But then the thing about that just broke

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Speaker 2: today with reports are the teams going to be for sale?

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna dive into all that. Max Brown knows

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold right very well. He's gonna join us and

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Speaker 2: talk about Super Sam slinging Sammy. The more thoughts on

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Speaker 2: what this reported sale thing means for Seahawk fans next

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Speaker 2: on ninety three three KJRFM,