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Speaker 2: When I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Speaker 4: I've heard plenty from David Sinnecon, I've heard nothing from

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Speaker 4: Be devastated by what took place in Chicago, Illinois last night.

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Speaker 4: Sinnicon sounded like he was in a little bit of

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Speaker 4: recovery mode. It's a one hour edition of a Sunday

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Speaker 4: Sermons leading into Vikings football Sunday at ten. That is,

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Speaker 4: if the Vikings do we know if they've landed in

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Speaker 4: Not a big surprise to people who've listened to this

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Speaker 4: Allegedly remember the last time the Bears trailed the Green

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Speaker 5: End that I just read on Twitter, the Bears win

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Speaker 4: They can't get a first down, and we can stop

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Speaker 1: At that point, there was no choice. So you you

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Speaker 1: Did he is he over four thousand for the year.

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Speaker 1: He's at thirty four hundred right now. Oh, he's thirty

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Speaker 4: You file for me a live report on your reaction

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Speaker 5: I mean, my initial reaction in my living room was

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Speaker 4: I'm very confused because often I hear if in similar circumstances,

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Speaker 4: It's funny we only seem to hear about it's okay

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Speaker 1: To be cheaper. I think it's part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: The things the Wolves have going for this season.

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Speaker 4: Six to one to two Guy writes to bring us

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Speaker 4: to very good, we're supposed to hate them more because

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Speaker 4: there's something worth hating. In the case of green Bay,

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Speaker 4: the Bears really haven't even been worth hating, right, So

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Speaker 4: I think for a lot of Vikings fans, last night

443
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Speaker 4: was a big night because of the schadenfreud associated with

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Speaker 4: the team they love to hate the most.

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Speaker 1: Finding a way with the help of the Bears to

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Speaker 1: lose that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the hate for the Packers supersedes all

448
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Speaker 5: of it, and I think the Bears have kind of

449
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 5: they've almost taken that lion's role. When I was breaking

450
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Speaker 5: it down to my friend that that's not from here,

451
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Speaker 5: I was saying, pretty much like one hundred percent of

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Speaker 5: Vikings fans hate the Packers, pretty much close as close

453
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Speaker 5: to one hundred as you can say one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: That's our chief rival Bears fans. For a long time,

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Speaker 5: I feel like it was split fifty to fifty where

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Speaker 5: I was like, it's more of like a historic, a

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Speaker 5: grandfathered in kind of hatred, and then the lines it

458
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Speaker 5: was like, oh, you know, you just kind of you

459
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Speaker 5: feel bad for him, just you know, they were never

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Speaker 5: really a problem for the longest time, but over the

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Speaker 5: last couple of years they've been better, the Bears have

462
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Speaker 5: been worse. So I feel like the Bears kind of

463
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Speaker 5: assumed that, oh, yes, they're cute for them on the

464
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Speaker 5: head exact in their moment this year for that, and

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Speaker 5: then after next and then next year it's going to

466
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Speaker 5: go back to you, to go back to full on hatred.

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Speaker 4: I do want to talk some Vikings Giants, although there's

468
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Speaker 4: not really I think a lot of meat on that

469
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Speaker 4: bone for all the obvious reasons, also because they did

470
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Speaker 4: have part of his the peg is they got into

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Speaker 4: New York what five, six, seven, eight hours later than

472
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Speaker 4: they expected because they had to get another plane after

473
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Speaker 4: taking off in the first one and having mechanical problems

474
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Speaker 4: and returning. Our guy, the unofficial sports historian of the

475
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Speaker 4: Bumper to Bumper Program Dan Minnesota, had put together for

476
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Speaker 4: me an excellent, you could say, summary of airplane related

477
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Speaker 4: stories and mishaps in Minnesota sports history. So we're gonna

478
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Speaker 4: go through some of those, because a couple of them

479
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Speaker 4: are very tantalizing. We will spend some time on the

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Wild, who have a great opportunity. Again I've said

481
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Speaker 4: this since they made their big trade. If you're a

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Speaker 4: casual hockey fan or a casual Minnesota sports fan, this,

483
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Speaker 4: that move in itself, I think has got should have

484
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Speaker 4: your attention. And beyond that, the team playing as well

485
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Speaker 4: as it has for as long as it has before

486
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Speaker 4: the trade was made, and even more so since the

487
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Speaker 4: trade has made, should elevate your interest to a to

488
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Speaker 4: a great level, another level, and that can continue when

489
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Speaker 4: you've got the Colorada Avalanche the next opponent today. So

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Speaker 4: we'll get to into all those things in our final

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Speaker 4: thirty minutes as we prepare for Vikings football side day

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Speaker 4: at Tar.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Vikings back in action at noon Central time in New York,

495
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Speaker 4: well kind of New York.

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Speaker 1: It's the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: At least two teams with terrible records right now, but

498
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Speaker 4: they still have to play the game. And the big

499
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Speaker 4: story yesterday in Vikings Land was the they had some

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Speaker 4: significant jet problems where the plane they took off in

501
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 4: developed mechanical issues. They had to come back, and then

502
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: it was the challenge of finding another plane that took

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Speaker 4: a lot of time. So they ended up getting into

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Speaker 4: New York late last night for a game that New

505
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Speaker 4: York time will start at one o'clock today. Believe me,

506
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: we'll hear about it. If the Vikings struggle today, that'll

507
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: be the excuse given over and over again.

508
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: And it's the old mind over matter thing.

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Speaker 4: If you want it to be a reason you're not playing, well,

510
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: it can be, but it doesn't I don't believe really

511
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Speaker 4: have to be. But our old friend Dan Minnesota has

512
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Speaker 4: given us a fascinating series of snapshots into Minnesota sports

513
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: history as it pertains to plane mishaps, or plane issues

514
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: or airplane controversies. A lot of good history here, going

515
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Speaker 4: all the way back to December nineteenth of nineteen nineteen

516
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Speaker 4: eroding Twin Cities Motor Speedway turns into a male airport

517
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Speaker 4: and eventually MSP. So once upon a time on the

518
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: grounds of the our International Airport was a motor speedway,

519
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Speaker 4: Twin Cities Motor Speedway that was even before my time,

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00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: not before SIDS, of course. On the eighteenth of January

521
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Speaker 4: nineteen sixty the Minneapolis Lakers plane crash lands in a

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Speaker 4: field in.

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Speaker 1: A cornfield in Carol, Iowa.

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Speaker 4: Story that we've told the many many times over the

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Speaker 4: years and had some great guests on it, including a

526
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Speaker 4: couple of the survivors, because everybody survived that particular plane

527
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Speaker 4: in an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: This is a clever one.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy six, the NCAA reports violations with the Gopher

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Speaker 4: basketball team.

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Speaker 1: That included free plane tickets.

532
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: Now that's very quaint in today's prism, but back then

533
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: those things mattered. A free plane tickets was part of

534
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: the deal. In nineteen sixty six, former Twins manager. Billy

535
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: Martin's behavior on a plane led apparently to a fistfight

536
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: with the twins traveling secretary at the time, Howard Fox,

537
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy two.

538
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: What did you say? What did he have to say?

539
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: Not like the hitting coach?

540
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: Now?

541
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Speaker 1: What did what did Billy say?

542
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Speaker 2: No?

543
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Speaker 4: That made the traveling secretary? Frankly, anything's possible. There may

544
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: have been some manhood issues put in there. Who's to say.

545
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy two, Evil Knievel's plane crash lands into

546
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Speaker 4: his trailer at dragways in Coon Rapids. I never knew

547
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: an evil Canevel, I think crashed everywhere, but and evil?

548
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: How do I describe Evil Caniel? For the kids?

549
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: Daredevil guy who over a period of decades was a

550
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Speaker 4: huge name once upon a time doing stuff like, Okay,

551
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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're going to Vegas and in my motorcycle,

552
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump, I'm gonna leap over with a ramp

553
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: as many cars, motorcycle whatever, you know, impediments you want

554
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: to put in front of me and try to clear

555
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: that entire group of vehicles, sometimes with success, sometimes with failure.

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Speaker 1: He wants I think, yeah, he did.

557
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: Also, he did a jump at the Snake River Canyon,

558
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Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken. Two thousand and one lou Nanny

559
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: and Chorsky plane crash. That's only I think one of

560
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Speaker 4: two plane crashes that Louis has survived.

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Speaker 1: More on that in a minute. Then there's the infamous

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Speaker 1: Brett Farres.

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Speaker 4: He's on the plane, arrival, arrival, that was the quote

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Speaker 4: eight eighteen, two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Nine, He's on the plane.

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Speaker 4: And then more recently twenty sixteen, the Vikings plane slipped

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Speaker 4: off a runway in Appleton, Wisconsin and the team was

568
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Speaker 4: stuck on the on the tarmac for or on the

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Speaker 4: runway for.

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Speaker 1: About four hours.

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Speaker 4: As well, there's also a Bud Grant plane story, and

572
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Speaker 4: he told both of them in this very studio a

573
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Speaker 4: while ago. He was on a I think this was

574
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Speaker 4: a it's either a hunting and or fishing trip and

575
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Speaker 4: in Canada, it's a hunting trip into Canada, and he

576
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Speaker 4: survived to crash landing of the plane. As I recall it,

577
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: what he told us was that they ended up skittting

578
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: down the runway. The either the wheels collapsed or they

579
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 4: didn't have any wheels. But even though the equipment, I

580
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: should say, the panel in the plane and the cockpit

581
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: indicated that the wheels were down.

582
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: They weren't. He survived that.

583
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Speaker 4: And then the bigger Bud Grant plane story is he's

584
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: playing in the nineteen fifty six CFL All Star Game

585
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: in Vancouver, and he told this story in great detail

586
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: in this studio, and he at the last moment, he

587
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: changed his return flight to Winnipeg, literally as he told

588
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: us about out the door to take the original flight.

589
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: The phone finally, because he was trying to change it,

590
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: the phone rings in his hotel room, allowing him to

591
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 4: change his return and the plane that he would have

592
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: been traveling in a Trans Canada Airlines flight crashed into

593
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Speaker 4: the mountains and killed everyone on board. God, it's just

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Speaker 4: it's unbelievable how certainly Viking's history might have changed. So

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00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: there's a lot of plane related stuff in Minnesota sports

596
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: lore for sure. Before we get to a couple of

597
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Speaker 4: Vikings items here down the stretch, about what we might

598
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: be paying attention to and watching today, your Minnesota wild

599
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: back in action. I think it's a five o'clock start,

600
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: yep to this evening right right here on the fan

601
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: against the Colorado Avalanche. And as I said, yesterday it

602
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: was Edmonton. Now, you know, Edmonton's good obviously, and they've

603
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: got some real star power, but this is a really

604
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: good opportunity to get people's attention to say, this whole

605
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: surge that we have been involved than now for what

606
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: six seven, eight weeks, I guess it's about six weeks

607
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: is real. It'll come if you take care of business

608
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: at home against the Lanch who sit there. Despite again

609
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: this tremendous surge by the Wild, they remain eight points

610
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: behind the Lanch because the Lanch are twenty five, two

611
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: and seven. They've been ridiculous this year, so they're still

612
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: kind of.

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Speaker 1: The standard bearer.

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00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: So once again it's a really good opportunity for the

615
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: Wild to capitalize on or maybe emphasize that we're a

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00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: different team. There's something different that's going on here, and

617
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: we all know the reality that eventually all that matters

618
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: is going to be whether they can finally get out

619
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Speaker 4: of the first round. You know, no matter how well

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Speaker 4: they play in the regular season. They've had some other

621
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: good regular seasons or good stretches in the regular season,

622
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Speaker 4: but including last year, but ultimately you're going to be

623
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Speaker 4: judged on finally after ten years getting out of the

624
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: first round of the play. But we all, as we

625
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: said the Wolves Oklahoma City, you look for little markers

626
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 4: in your regular season games that you can, at least

627
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: in your mind believe mean more than a single game,

628
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: even though technically that is all they mean. But I

629
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: think it's sort of how you go about the business

630
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: of evaluating where a team is and maybe even what

631
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 4: its chances are to really capitalize on success and end

632
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: up somewhere better.

633
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Speaker 1: Obviously, the Wild.

634
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: Did not have the Wolves track record for the last

635
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 4: couple of years, but you can't fast forward the calendar.

636
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: It's it's December and you make the big trade. It

637
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: has worked out swimmingly thus far. I don't I think

638
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 4: our average margin of victory since the deal is three goals.

639
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: I mean, we've become a dominant team. So can we

640
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: dominate the lanch today? I don't know, you're just looking

641
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: for a victory today. But I'll say again, even if

642
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: you're not hardcore hockey guy, they should have your attention

643
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: by now as just sort of hey, what's going on

644
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 4: is there's something different going on here?

645
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: And I think you believe in this.

646
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: The philosophy we've talked about a lot on the show

647
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: during the week. The big swing philosophy when you have

648
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: if you're a fan, it's so much more rewarding to

649
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: have an organization and a general manager or a president

650
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 4: of hockey operations, basketball operations, whatever.

651
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Who is willing to take the big swing.

652
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: And because the big swing is dangerous, big swing has risks,

653
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: right because.

654
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Speaker 1: If you're wrong, it could end up being your career.

655
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Speaker 4: But to me, the best general managers don't care. At

656
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: some point, they've got the contents to say, this is

657
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: the time is now. We've got a chance to get

658
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: a special player who we think can elevate us.

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Tim Conley did it twice, right, He did.

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Speaker 4: It with a special defensive player the first time, but

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Speaker 4: felt like if you could get him, he was obligated

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Speaker 4: to do it. Started slow, but ended up being pretty successful.

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Speaker 4: And obviously then he did it with the Karl Anthony

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Speaker 4: Towns move as well. And this to me is Billy

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Speaker 4: Garon kind of answering that call. And you're you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you grow up, grew up fans of lots

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Speaker 4: of these teams.

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Speaker 1: I gotta believe you love that.

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Speaker 4: You may not always agree with the trade, and it

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Speaker 4: may not always work out. But as Bill Gharran told

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Speaker 4: us on the show a week ago, today, you know

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Speaker 4: you can. You can bunt forever you can, but every

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Speaker 4: once in a while the cliche applies. You got to

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Speaker 4: you got to try to swing for the fences. And

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Speaker 4: if you're a fan in a town where obviously the

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Speaker 4: Twins do want to do nothing, butt bunt over and

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Speaker 4: over again. The fact that you got now two Winter

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Speaker 4: Sports general managers who are willing, I think, to kind

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Speaker 4: of go out on a limb and take a big,

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Speaker 4: big risk because the Wild had to give up a

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Speaker 4: lot make their own deal.

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Speaker 5: That's got to be a good feeling. No, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: so much fun to be a part of those things.

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Speaker 5: To have to get that national time. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: saying the Minnesota Wild on Sports Center these days, that's

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Speaker 5: almost unheard of.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 5: I'm as casual as casual can be with the Minnesota Wild,

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Speaker 5: but this feels different. This big swing felt different. And

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Speaker 5: as good as they were playing prior to getting Quinn Hughes,

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Speaker 5: that Quinn Hughes deal, I mean that sent the Wild

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Speaker 5: fandom into the stratosphere. It's unlocked a whole different level

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Speaker 5: of fervor with an already fervent Wild fan base. It's

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Speaker 5: just been like, like you said, even if the Rudy

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Speaker 5: Gobert thing didn't work out, I think we all were

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Speaker 5: in agreement that it was just it was good to

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Speaker 5: see the Wolves take that chance to get something, you

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Speaker 5: got to risk something, and you don't usually see these

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Speaker 5: Minnesota teams, particularly the Minnesota Wild, go all in in

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Speaker 5: the fashion that they're going all in this season.

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Speaker 1: So it's been it's been incredibly fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: And again, even for the hard core, is this flip

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Speaker 5: to switch to another level? Now the Minnesota Wild as

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Speaker 5: good of regular seasons as they've had over the last

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Speaker 5: you know, several decades, this feels different than the other

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Speaker 5: times that they've been really good. This this has a

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Speaker 5: different feeling, It has a different energy, It has a

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Speaker 5: different level of excitement, and it's and it's really cool

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Speaker 5: to see. And it seems like watching you know, watching

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Speaker 5: the games and watching the social media and stuff, that

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Speaker 5: these guys really like playing for each other and with

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Speaker 5: each other.

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Speaker 1: And it's a really easy team to.

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Speaker 5: Roop for, which is always a benefit here all plus

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Speaker 5: for here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: So again, Vikings Giants coming up at noon Central Vikings

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Speaker 4: Football Sunday coming up at the top of this hour.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much more there is to say

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Speaker 4: other than you're still trying to get a handle on

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Speaker 4: the QB and looking, presumably for some level of success.

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Speaker 1: I said this on TV Friday night.

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Speaker 4: Though there is there's a balancing act I think you

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Speaker 4: have to do because I view once a team is

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Speaker 4: mathematically eliminated, I'm not a big tanker guy. I don't

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Speaker 4: really appreciate that sentiment all that much, although I know

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Speaker 4: it has served some teams very well. But I do

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Speaker 4: think so. I do think you still you know, most

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Speaker 4: teams are going to try to win. I think the

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Speaker 4: trap is drawing two grand a conclusion of how a

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Speaker 4: team does in garbage time collectively and even players individually.

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Speaker 4: Because the pressure's off, So you got to be I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying you throw out any sign of progress from

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy if he indeed plays well, but I'm saying

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Speaker 4: when you get to this point of the season, you

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Speaker 4: got to be really careful where you don't over evaluate

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Speaker 4: and say, well, hey, everything's fine, Hey, look at look

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Speaker 4: how we finished, though you know we may have been

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Speaker 4: behind the eight ball we may have been mathematically eliminated

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Speaker 4: earlier than we wanted, but boy, we really played well

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Speaker 4: down the stretch, playing well whatever the sport. If you

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Speaker 4: play well, like in baseball, bringing some kids up once

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Speaker 4: you're eliminated, okay, that's great. But there there's really nothing

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Speaker 4: at stake, and so I think you still have to

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Speaker 4: calibrate things very carefully and be very honest that you

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Speaker 4: don't end up putting too much emphasis on individual performances

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Speaker 4: in a way that you pay for later, because I

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Speaker 4: just don't think I'm a big believer in pressure. I

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Speaker 4: do believe that when a team has found itself out

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Speaker 4: of a playoff chase, psychologically speaking, there's no risk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's really no risks.

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Speaker 4: So you can't throw out an evaluation completely if it's good.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think you can make grand evaluations on

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Speaker 4: that basis. I guess what I'm saying is, I think

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Speaker 4: you got a factor in the entire season before you

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Speaker 4: go crazy.

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Speaker 1: So that's all I'm looking for.

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Speaker 4: I guess is Okay, let's just see if JJ continues

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Speaker 4: to make some progress. And now, of course he's got

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Speaker 4: to do it without his left tackle. That's the other

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Speaker 4: thing that gets tricky. The Vikings have now shut down

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Speaker 4: three players, three starters. Not surprised given the circumstance. But

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Speaker 4: ain't that much else to watch at this point?

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Speaker 1: Is there? Other than out of habit? That's what we do.

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Speaker 5: No, not really, And I feel like New York Giants

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Speaker 5: fans and the New York Giants organization are kind of

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Speaker 5: feeling the same exact way. They're just really, Yes, surely

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Speaker 5: just a measuring stick test for Jackson dartin next season,

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Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 4: And then tomorrow, obviously we'll have Vikings talking points and

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Speaker 4: we'll review whatever takes place today.

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Speaker 1: Reguards, you'll be back with me.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming Johnny Athletic will be back, and who will

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Speaker 4: talk to him about because then he was at the

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Speaker 4: Wolves thunder game. Will definitely review the Minnesota Wild against

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Speaker 4: the Lanch.

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Speaker 1: So we hope Brett Blakemore's okay.

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Speaker 4: As far as we know, he survived a devastating night

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Speaker 4: for Packers fans and a big night for Vikings fans.

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Speaker 4: We were reminded again today that the schadenfreude in watching

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Speaker 4: the Packers, you know, I guess you could say implode,

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Speaker 4: because in a lot of ways they needed to. I

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Speaker 4: think they were in the red zone like nine times

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Speaker 4: and scored six points. I guess they got one touchdown too.

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Speaker 4: I had a lot to do with it. That's what

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Speaker 4: we live for. We don't just live for the Vikings winning.

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Speaker 4: We live for the green Bay Packers losing in stupendous,

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Speaker 4: historic fashion, which is what it was last night. Thanks

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Speaker 4: for watching, thank you for listening, And as I said,

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Speaker 4: Vikings Football Sunday is coming up next here in the

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Speaker 4: fanom