WEBVTT - 11-13-25 Willie with Brian Hamrick

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Thursday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>of the tri State.

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<v Speaker 2>The government has opened.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats have suddenly said, Okay, let's have TSA workers

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<v Speaker 1>not sleep in their cars. Let's make sure the food

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<v Speaker 1>stamps get out to people. We're gonna pay the We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pay TSA. We're gonna pay the air traffic controllers

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<v Speaker 1>at the expense of the insurance companies getting all the

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<v Speaker 1>money under Obamacare. But that's a different issue. As you

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<v Speaker 1>may know, there's many, many problems in River City. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them is on short Vine. Another one is babies

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<v Speaker 1>and boxes. And Brian Hamrick's on top of both stories.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian Hamrick, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. Thanks again, mister Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about short Vine this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I saw one of the captains and CPD gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a shot spotter detail about in the last month,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the shots being fired in Cincinnati? As if

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<v Speaker 1>a white piece of paper was in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took a bunch of black pepper and shook

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<v Speaker 1>it all over the paper. There's thousands of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>shots being fired, and that doesn't count the other to

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<v Speaker 1>bacherous misbehavior. Short Vine right against UC campus. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>done stories on moms and dads not feeling comfortable their

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<v Speaker 1>kids going to the University of Cincinnati because of the

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<v Speaker 1>robberies because the car break ins, guns are everywhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's metastasized a little bit off campus to short Vine. So,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, for those listening in Iowa, describe short Vine.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll talk about the failure of parents to keep

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<v Speaker 1>their kids off Short Vine. At two o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Please give the American people a full report.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, short Vine is what one block over from UC

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<v Speaker 3>main campus if you go down Jefferson right where you

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<v Speaker 3>go into the all the sports sporting events there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you go into with basketball, the football, baseball, all of

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<v Speaker 3>that just across from there. It's it's it's really it's

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<v Speaker 3>not officially a part of the u SEE campus, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is a part of the u SEE community. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>And so all the students come over this way a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times, especially if there's a sporting event, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to park over here where you want to or

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<v Speaker 3>not and walk through the area. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we have talked to. You talk to any of the students, anybody,

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<v Speaker 3>they know that this area is trouble. And you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the business owners down here, they'll tell you the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing. You know, and some are saying it's as

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<v Speaker 3>bad as they've ever seen it. Now, short minds had

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<v Speaker 3>its issues over the years. But you know, just a

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks ago, they're videos circulated.

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<v Speaker 2>We had it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see it on our website. Somebody's firing off

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<v Speaker 3>a gun. People are running, there's a crowd of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody just opens fire. Everybody's running. I did the story

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<v Speaker 3>not long ago. Down in front of a liquor store,

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<v Speaker 3>a fifteen year old goes to rob another guy, a

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<v Speaker 3>guy we had incidentally interviewed a couple of weeks before,

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<v Speaker 3>just as a random person who observed another crime somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>He's standing outside this liquor store, all caught on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>The kid goes to rob him. He pulls the gun

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<v Speaker 3>on the victim. What he doesn't realize this victim he

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<v Speaker 3>has his own gun. So they're in a big shootout,

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<v Speaker 3>people everywhere. You can see him scattered there, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So the victim gets shot to death. The fifteen year

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<v Speaker 3>old shot as well, but he survived, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>case is still in the courtroom. And there have been

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<v Speaker 3>all kinds of other there's other ones that don't even

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<v Speaker 3>go reported. Kids that have been attacked. We just talked

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<v Speaker 3>to the mother of UC student who's been attacked two

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<v Speaker 3>times walking out here. So city council today is going

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<v Speaker 3>to try and do something. Uh. They're going to enact

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<v Speaker 3>as curfew. Uh. You know, if you talk to business

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<v Speaker 3>owners down here, they think what's happening is they did

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<v Speaker 3>that crack down down by Fountain Square and all that. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>these these folks that create problems, they go somewhere, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be somewhere, and a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 3>they're just up here. So we've got sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>whack a mole problem going on. And so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>whack the mole up here and see if and see

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<v Speaker 3>if that works. But you know, who knows if it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to have any effect at all. But it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like uh here in just a couple of hours the

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<v Speaker 3>uh if city council is going to vote to try

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<v Speaker 3>and do something up here, and right now their answer

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<v Speaker 3>is a curfew, uh for the middle of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes kind of queue the red box, get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the food trucks. Let's have a curfew. I watched Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Isaac Are retired as the chief of police from CPD.

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<v Speaker 1>Now's the chief of police and U see, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said that it's ridiculous when you we have ten to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven twelve year olds, thirteen year olds running around committing

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<v Speaker 1>mayhem at two o'clock in the morning, and when the

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<v Speaker 1>weather is good, it's worse than the weather is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a couple of us, these students two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>thought it might be a good idea to get a pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for meos.

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<v Speaker 1>They're walking out with a large pepperoni pizza and a

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<v Speaker 1>gang of six or seven kids got around him and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to give them the pizza, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the gang of six kids beat the crap at him,

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<v Speaker 1>kicked him in the head, broken bones everywhere, and the

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<v Speaker 1>robbers got the pizza, running down short Vine trying to

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<v Speaker 1>eat a slice of pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's absurd.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous, And what we need is a functional juvenile

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<v Speaker 1>court system that when you catch these kids, there's consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that thirteen year old who murdered someone who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be held in Jubie Court till twenty one. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be released. And there's not a statute

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<v Speaker 1>under fourteen to deal with murder. We don't have laws

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<v Speaker 1>that even deal with ten, eleven, twelve year olds committing

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<v Speaker 1>arm robberies.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to know where is my where is dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the social constraints on bad human behavior? And uh

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<v Speaker 1>with the weather nice tonight and tomorrow is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's uh, it has uh in a lot of these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>This has become part of the uh of the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>It's celebrated in song and dance and music and the

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<v Speaker 3>tenements of this and this isn't This doesn't just come

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<v Speaker 3>from me. This comes from the folks who are down

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<v Speaker 3>here in these neighborhoods. You know they know it as

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<v Speaker 3>well that you know it's uh. You'll hear it in

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<v Speaker 3>their music, for example, you'll hear these uh these songs

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<v Speaker 3>and the and the lyrics are all killed. The cops,

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<v Speaker 3>beat the women, UH, take the money, smoke the dope,

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<v Speaker 3>and and that you're that that those are the tenements

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<v Speaker 3>the ability, and then they aspire to be these thugs

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<v Speaker 3>that they see standing on the corner, right, And it's

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, the sons have done great marketing. I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta give him that. You know, the city ought to

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<v Speaker 3>see tire those guys and say, hey, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>doing to attract youth? Because at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>rainbow there is no there is nothing. There's nothing for him.

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<v Speaker 3>There's jail or they're getting shot to death, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or getting out of it somehow. That that's what's really there.

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<v Speaker 3>But but nobody's dispelled the myth that they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a big wheel and there's some sort of al Capone figure. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's you know, there's some grandiose lifestyle. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>at best, a guy gets about a week and a

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<v Speaker 3>car he paid for him cash with speakers blasting their

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<v Speaker 3>theme music, riding through the sounds of Cincinnati. That's the guy. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>he gets about a week of that, maybe a month, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he's shot to death or thrown in jail

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<v Speaker 3>or something happened to him. But but you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>nobody living the high life. You know, if they are,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see them. What I see are the dead people.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the ones who you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Like boat guards, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Is always a market, it is kind of an ovank guard,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a music theater venue. But the actual business

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<v Speaker 1>owners don't want to come on camera and talk, do they.

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<v Speaker 3>No. We've talked to a number of folks up here.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I'm up one short vine as we speak

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<v Speaker 3>and just talking to people and they're like, yeah, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. I don't think I better, but but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a good idea that they do something.

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<v Speaker 3>But people are afraid. They're afraid. They don't want any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of repercussions because if you stand out, you might

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<v Speaker 3>get a lightning bolt. We're not done trying to catch

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<v Speaker 3>up with folks. Hopefully we'll get somebody today, one of

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<v Speaker 3>these business owners. But they'll tell us all, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>off camera. They're willing to tell us, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>look something's got to be done. It's crazy. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Chief Isaac said, look, it don't even count the violent crime,

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<v Speaker 3>but just the chaos that's going on. That's the way

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<v Speaker 3>he put it. So you know it's happening, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just a lot of activity up here,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're fortunately that it hasn't gotten worse

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<v Speaker 3>with like I said, when you got somebody unloading guns, Yes, yoh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you've got people unloading guns when there are

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<v Speaker 3>dozens of people standing around. You could have one of

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<v Speaker 3>these situations where you've got multiple people shot and killed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Like, I was amazed that when these two

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who got killed pulled the gun and shot back.

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<v Speaker 3>That when there's people sitting everywhere, how the bullets missed

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<v Speaker 3>all those other people? I have no idea, because they

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<v Speaker 3>both basically unloaded their weapons and those bullets were flying everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the OK Corral out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not fair to the OK Corral.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, on this topic, before we talk about babies

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<v Speaker 1>and boxes, uh, the superintendent of schoolers came home with

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<v Speaker 1>slowly a couple of weeks ago. There's about five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>kids in cps that are homeless, five thousand boys and

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<v Speaker 1>little girls living in cars, and another five thousand are

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<v Speaker 1>English second language kids. That and then you have a

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<v Speaker 1>chronic absentee rate of forty seven percent and seventy one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of black boys are chronically absent. You put all

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<v Speaker 1>that together and you got a recipe for total cultural collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly, I got to get to this. You did a great.

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<v Speaker 1>Story on babies and boxes and I saw this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I heard the number. One hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>newly born babies put in boxes in fire departments another

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<v Speaker 1>example of collapse of our culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain that story.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, they put these they call them, they're the

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<v Speaker 3>ones they use around here mostly are called the safe

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<v Speaker 3>haven baby boxes. And so you have these moms who,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're stuck in a bad spot and they

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know what to do, and so they've opened

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<v Speaker 3>this up and then anonymously you can drop the baby

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<v Speaker 3>in this box and at the fire station the alarm

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<v Speaker 3>goes off. Don't have these things for years, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of forget that they got it, and then all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, that's what they had in Union Township.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody puts a baby in a box. They know nothing

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<v Speaker 3>about where the baby came from. It was a healthy baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and now that baby's on the road to a whole

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<v Speaker 3>different life. That was in a Union Township. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>give a specific day or time when that was, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was very recent and last week or two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>they had the baby drop there. And meanwhile in Hamilton

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<v Speaker 3>they were putting in a brand new baby box. Just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, someday somebody's gonna use it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>so these moms who feel they got no other choice,

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere else to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, they could have bored it and killed the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't do that. And so it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a felony to do it. Now it's no harm,

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<v Speaker 1>no foul for the mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, no, huh, they're no charges. They don't even

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<v Speaker 3>you know, want to know who the mom is. They

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<v Speaker 3>just want the baby to be safe. That's their main goal.

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<v Speaker 3>And I talked to the woman, she's out of Indiana

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<v Speaker 3>who started this. There's like somehow I think she said

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred This was a three hundred and ninety fifth

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<v Speaker 3>baby box, the one in Hamilton. They got them all

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<v Speaker 3>through Texas and everywhere. Uh, And they have had seventy

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<v Speaker 3>babies since they started the program put in the boxes,

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<v Speaker 3>and one hundred and seventy eight that women, just moms,

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<v Speaker 3>came to the fire station where they have the baby box.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't put it in a box. They just handed

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<v Speaker 3>it over to the firefighters there though, and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>take care of the baby. And so they put it

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<v Speaker 3>in with the child services and then you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>find a home for it. I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 3>the one in Union Township didn't already didn't already place.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know, there are people that are waiting for babies,

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<v Speaker 3>hoping to get you know, a healthy baby, right and

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<v Speaker 3>you know can't have kids and all that. So, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, it's a you know, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a program that you know is working. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>said that it should certainly be the alternative because you

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<v Speaker 3>know what the folks who have these boxes and put

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<v Speaker 3>them in say, you know, you know, it gives women

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to do something rather than the alternative, which

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<v Speaker 3>often is not a good choice to make.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those who may be caught in this about

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<v Speaker 1>a minute remaining, those might be women that are caught

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<v Speaker 1>in this no harm, no foul, And you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the mother is. And I guess down the road

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen or twenty years somebody a mother could pop

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<v Speaker 1>up and say, where's my child? I don't know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no identifiers, correct, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they they say there's no identification to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure how they do that. If it happened. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that they've been in there well enough to

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<v Speaker 3>have had anybody come back and say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's reconsider this. I'm not sure what the procedures are

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<v Speaker 3>are for that, if they did have that, But but

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<v Speaker 3>the whole idea is that it's an anonymous it's an

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<v Speaker 3>anonymous uh uh drop that you drop the baby and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody is like, no questions asked, ass you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the way they set it up to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we'll see but or whatever. It's sad, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sick and it's good. It's one of those things in life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sick, but it's sad, but it's good because it

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<v Speaker 1>is so easy to kill baby in uterot today. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's organizations like Planned Parentode making millions of dollars through

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<v Speaker 1>that terrible business. At least mothers have the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not easy, of course delivering a child. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>once it's done, to recognize I can't handle this as

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<v Speaker 1>a positive. We'll see what happens at two o'clock with

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<v Speaker 1>short vine and that's a game of whack a mole.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that is shut down, back to the central

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<v Speaker 1>business district here, there and everywhere. And I won't stop

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<v Speaker 1>until parents are responsible and juveniles are held accountable. The

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<v Speaker 1>police need to arrest, the prosecutor needs to prosecute, and

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<v Speaker 1>the judge needs a sentence, and it has to be consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now you can kill, murder, rape, rob and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no consequence because we have a juvenile court system

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<v Speaker 1>like Harry Bloom, the judge there who give book reports

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<v Speaker 1>and say don't do it again and apologize and out

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<v Speaker 1>you go again. It's a revolving door. There's about a

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<v Speaker 1>few hundred needs to be taken off the streets to

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<v Speaker 1>save a few hundred thousand, and until that happens, for nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll be watching tonight for the story about short Vine.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Hamrick, once again, thank you for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian, Thanks again, mister Cunningham.

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