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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the Baltimore Orioles signed the New York

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five million. It just broke that the

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Speaker 1: Pirates offered four years one hundred and twenty four million,

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Speaker 1: which is the same average annual value as Baltimore gave Alonzo.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm lying, just like everybody lied when they

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Speaker 1: said that the Pirates offered Schwarbur the same average annual

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Speaker 2: The bid that mysteriously went up.

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Speaker 1: After Schwarber had already signed with Philadelphia. But I want

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Speaker 1: to talk hockey. I want to spew Penguin ancs, because

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Speaker 1: the Penguins just keep blowing leads, and last night, in

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Speaker 1: more cataclysmic fashion than ever before. That was just a

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Speaker 1: disastrous loss for the Penguins, the kind that can lead

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Speaker 1: to a lot bad in both the short and long run.

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Speaker 1: If the Penguins missed the playoffs by a point, You'll

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Speaker 1: remember last night's shootout lost to Anaheim. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why both offensive defensemen are out there at the end

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Speaker 1: away from. He's always gone lefty, righty. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why both buston Latang whiffed on. Dude, go into the net,

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Speaker 2: The clock's about to run out.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why Carlson is diving toward the

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. It was just a brutal sequence,

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Speaker 2: It was insane.

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Speaker 1: You had a draw in Anaheim's end and a power

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Speaker 1: play with eighteen seconds left. You won the draw and

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Speaker 1: still lost the game. The puck was behind their goal

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Speaker 2: You had the wrong guys out there.

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Speaker 1: And then you had a power play in overtime and

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Speaker 1: you always lose the shootout.

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Speaker 2: OH and five and shootouts this year oh and nine.

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Speaker 1: Dating back to last year, the Penguin shooters went oh

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Speaker 1: for three in the shootout, Novak got a chance, Coven

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Speaker 2: Both missed obviously.

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Speaker 1: Sid went did the same move as always and missed

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Speaker 1: that exact same cause I moved. Everybody knows is coming.

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Speaker 1: It's the same every time and shutoffs. Was one for

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Speaker 1: two last night in goal in the shootout, and now

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Speaker 1: and you just can't leave him in there for shootouts.

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Speaker 1: He's impossibly bad. And I don't care about protocol, I

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Speaker 1: don't care about feelings. I don't care about the so

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Speaker 1: called injury risk of bringing the other goalie in cold,

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Speaker 1: Goalies come in cold when the starting goalie gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, yeah, I know Jari is no

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Speaker 1: You can't leave shitloffs in there to lose every shootout

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Speaker 1: because right now it feels like these loser points in shootouts,

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Speaker 1: shootout specialist to shoot, like Eric Christensen was back when

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Speaker 1: U see Okinant and get a better shootout goalie.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's out there, but just have him

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Speaker 1: It's come to that when you've lost your last nine

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Speaker 1: That is my Penguin's rant, because last night was so

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Speaker 1: the personal injury expert Senderovid Sandroovich and Fishmen.

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Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet.

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Speaker 1: I heard the Pirates might get one of these Japanese

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Speaker 1: I heard the Pirates offered a Swarber went up some

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Speaker 1: more since yesterday, since after he signed with Philadelphia. One

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Speaker 1: thing to understand about the way I talk about the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: I loved them as a kid and loved them for years.

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Speaker 1: I went all the time. I went forty one times

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Speaker 1: I didn't change. They did. They betrayed Pittsburgh. So when

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Speaker 2: And here's a legit bucco question. What if they talk all.

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Speaker 1: These yang about spending more and they just don't, and

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to improve this team enough in one season anyway,

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Speaker 1: one offseason, it really is. It's impossible. They have zero

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Speaker 1: a hitter per year on three hitters, and they coordinated

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. They have one legitimate middle of the

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about this at length later, but the Bucco

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Speaker 1: He's a really good fit in the bullpen. This upgrades

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Speaker 1: eleven games. That's a lot of blown saves. It is

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Speaker 1: just such a bunch of crap, and you're too dumb

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Speaker 1: Marcus Spears says we should pray for Philip Rivers. I

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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks defense, which is pretty good, lights him

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Speaker 2: Please, Dear God, do that for me with the Seattle defense.

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Speaker 1: Kill your servant Philip Rivers right there on the field,

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Speaker 1: because if he's that stupid to play, he's stoopid enough

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Speaker 2: You know how you know God.

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Speaker 1: Don't care about football because God betrayed Notre Dame when

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Speaker 2: Where is your God? Now, Priest one five nine X,

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Speaker 2: listen to the X everywhere you go, now everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Tell your sport device Alexa play one on five point

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Speaker 3: ninety X.

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Speaker 2: On iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: You can win a drip for four people that come

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Speaker 2: Aldree X.

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Speaker 1: Love Mamby Andy just tweeted that the Power should have

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Speaker 1: overpaid to get Pete Alonzo. You could offer Pee Alonzo

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Speaker 1: Alonzo like, I don't know, seven years two hundred mil,

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Speaker 1: one reference. Let's talk Penguins after that horrible defeat last

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Speaker 1: night here now, Tommy Radio, tom what a terrible loss.

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Speaker 2: I still can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I can't recall a loss quite like that for the

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Speaker 4: It's so deflating, and you do worry about the team

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Speaker 4: moving forward. They need to beat the Canadians tomorrow, and

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Speaker 2: But I do. And the Dallas loss too, I mean

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Speaker 1: Because because Dallas is a better team, it's on the road.

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Speaker 1: But they played him and left it lay in late,

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Speaker 1: all of those shootouts in a row. Nine losses consecutively

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Speaker 1: they blew the game last night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if they don't flush it quickly. I'm going

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Speaker 4: be worried all year that we're going to be on

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Speaker 4: that cut line and it's gonna be one point. That's

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Speaker 4: couldn't defend longer against Anaheim. There's your ticket to the

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Speaker 1: I just don't get Carlson diving toward the net. Doing

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Speaker 4: Do you get anything that was going on in that sequence,

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Speaker 1: Didn't get the line up at the end, didn't get

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Speaker 2: The goal one with nine seconds left.

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Speaker 2: Like when Carlson put it back in. The Ducks got

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Speaker 2: It's almost like this pathological with Sid.

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Speaker 2: You know that the move is going to be before

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Speaker 1: You know he's not going backhand, right. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: How wild is that for one of the best backhand

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Speaker 4: So I like seeing Novak and I like seeing coyven

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Speaker 1: No, not exactly a kid, but I know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time for that now, right, Like it was

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Speaker 4: Now, it's what three or four games into this now,

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Speaker 1: None of them have scored through the Kid Line, I

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Speaker 1: should say. Now, get back to the shootout. Do you

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure Jaari's much better, but Shiloffs

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: I don't think many people are.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was so obvious last night. I think

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Speaker 4: And again, Jarry's not great at to shoot out either,

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 4: And the cold thing, they get hurt, you throw the

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Speaker 4: Jar's coming cold what two times in the past two

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Speaker 1: It just got to be some shootout wizard in goal

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Speaker 1: And but you get my drift. But if there's some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, desperate times, right, And I think you're probably more

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Speaker 4: It's like I said, it's a faux pas. Like it's

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Speaker 4: A lot of it has to do with hurting these

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Speaker 2: Have the case of the goaltender.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's stuff about how the goalie coming in cold

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Speaker 2: That excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks come in cold, goalies come in cold during games.

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Speaker 2: Like no offense.

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Speaker 4: But who is Archer? She loves to demand the respect

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Speaker 4: should say, Okay, great, Jarry's got the shootouts. I'm glad

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Speaker 4: It's a team game after all. Yeah, But but it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would prefer to just rip off

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Speaker 1: The Anna's Attendants last night at PPG was a fifteen thousand,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it came across on the TV feed last

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Speaker 1: And you know what, there are these idiots out there

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: You go on stub Hub last night a couple hours

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Speaker 2: Not priced out. The get in price was like twenty bucks.

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Speaker 4: Tons of secondary market apps too, because like you know,

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Speaker 2: So you can get in the building if you really

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: I trust the sub hub for all those years. Stub

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Speaker 1: Hub's really proven though these are proven too. I got

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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, you might not get your ticket dot com

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Speaker 2: one oh five nine the X.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Canadians.

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Speaker 2: Game time is seven.

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Speaker 5: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the

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Speaker 5: one O five nine DX.

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Speaker 2: AM one O five nine DX. It's happening again with

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Speaker 1: They lied about the offer to nailor probably lied about

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Speaker 1: he's legit. Oh he's a great fit. You go fanboys,

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Speaker 1: beat him bucks. Soto's ERI last year was four point

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Speaker 1: four just twice, and the last time was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Pirates only paid seven point seventy five million for him.

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Speaker 2: Case closed.

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Speaker 1: And also there's some bs out there about them trading

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Speaker 1: But he's a free agent after next season. So would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ecstatic by the Soto signing. Even if Sodo

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Speaker 2: They need bats. If they need bats, that's what they need.

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Speaker 4: It's important, but that's not going to move the needle

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Speaker 1: typical pirate get and it's right on the heels of that

438
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Speaker 1: horseman or with the bid being inflated after the fact

439
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Speaker 1: for Kyle Schwarber.

440
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and last year Soto was on a bummy Baltimore team,

441
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: gets traded to the Mets midseason and sucked even worse

442
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Speaker 4: when he got thrown into a pennant race. He'd like

443
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Speaker 4: a four point five ORA in the second half of

444
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Speaker 4: last season. So he's coming off of one of his

445
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Speaker 4: worst half of a season that he's had in a

446
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: long time. He's he's clearly well past his prime. It's

447
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Speaker 4: amazing how minimal people will get excited. The students will

448
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Speaker 4: get excited over a bullpen piece like this. And you said,

449
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 4: seven point seven million is not that much. You're right,

450
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Speaker 4: It really isn't that much in the grand scheme of baseball.

451
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Speaker 4: But that's an overpay for some bum like this. Use

452
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Speaker 4: that money elsewhere, Use it on a bat.

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Speaker 1: If the Pirates get nobody of consequence in the offseason,

454
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Speaker 1: what will the fan reaction be Because promises have been made.

455
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Speaker 4: I think the fan reaction will then pivot towards optimism

456
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: around the password, optimism around Connor Griffin. When his call

457
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Speaker 4: up will be will it be? You know, on opening day?

458
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Speaker 4: Will he make the roster? They'll have some drummed up

459
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 4: optimism for O'Neal, Cruz finally breaking out, Brian Reynolds having

460
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: a bounce back here, you know, the same old familiar stuff.

461
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Speaker 2: But there will be optimism. I don't know, I don't know.

462
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Speaker 2: I think.

463
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Speaker 1: I think whoever's left supporting is really hardcore and wants

464
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Speaker 1: to believe no matter what, even at the expense of

465
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Speaker 1: looking foolish. But again, promises have been made about spending

466
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Speaker 1: more and if it doesn't happen. I don't know. I

467
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Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I do know the stooge media

468
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Speaker 1: will stay loyal.

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you know Mark Cabali you pointed out

470
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Speaker 4: his tweet yesterday saying, well, you just offered this money

471
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Speaker 4: to Shoorbur, right, so you're obviously gonna spend it elsehe

472
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Speaker 4: right now, If you.

473
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Speaker 1: Offered Shorber one hundred and twenty million over four years,

474
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Speaker 1: then you have one hundred and twenty million to.

475
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Speaker 2: Spend over those four years. So spend it. Yeah, exactly,

476
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Speaker 2: but you won't.

477
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Speaker 4: You have to overpay players, like massively overpay them to

478
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Speaker 4: come here, even think about coming here.

479
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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure that, Like, yeah, it might not.

480
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Speaker 2: If you would have offered Schwarber, what was his average

481
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Speaker 2: annual value? I think it was around thirty, right, was

482
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Speaker 2: where it settled with the face? Yeah, yeah, because the

483
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Speaker 2: same with the parts.

484
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Speaker 1: If you would have offered Schwarber an annual average value

485
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Speaker 1: of forty, I'm not sure that gets into Pittsburgh.

486
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Speaker 2: H No, I'm not sure it does either.

487
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Speaker 1: And the parts would not have done that anyway. And

488
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Speaker 1: we should not forget that these offers are made in

489
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Speaker 1: design of being turned down.

490
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Speaker 4: Yes, So if you were a serious team, you know,

491
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Speaker 4: why not go after somebody And this isn't a superstar,

492
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Speaker 4: but like a Michael Conforto who is with the Dodgers

493
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Speaker 4: last year. I'm looking at it right now, expected to

494
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Speaker 4: make about six million on salary this year average annual value.

495
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Speaker 2: Why not offer that guy eleven million, twelve million.

496
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Speaker 4: You can overpay someone like that and they might go

497
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Speaker 4: I can't afford to turn down five extra million dollars,

498
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Speaker 4: even if it is with the bummy pirates. I mean,

499
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Speaker 4: there are guys out there that are projected to make seven, eight,

500
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Speaker 4: nine million dollars that you could overpay for, but they

501
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Speaker 4: won't do it because there's a risk they might say

502
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Speaker 4: yes at that point.

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Speaker 1: I think the big move at off seasons end will

504
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Speaker 1: turn out to be whoever they get for the for

505
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Speaker 1: Keller in that trade Sodo and the password.

506
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Speaker 4: And the Keller trade is going to be another password.

507
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Speaker 4: It'll be a twenty three to twenty four year old

508
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Speaker 4: prospect who you said it yesterday. They'll sell it to

509
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Speaker 4: us as big League ready. Yeah, so they'll have often

510
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Speaker 4: but always the number seven prospect in the Giants organization

511
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Speaker 4: or something like that. Those will be the big moves,

512
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Speaker 4: no doubt, and the Connor Griffin thing. I really think

513
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Speaker 4: they're going to start to pin a lot of hope

514
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Speaker 4: on him. Maybe not opening Day, but at some point

515
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Speaker 4: this year he's coming up.

516
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Speaker 1: If if no, i'll, i'll, I'll go one step further.

517
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Speaker 1: If they don't get a big get in the offseason,

518
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Speaker 1: he'll be in the.

519
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Speaker 4: Lineup on open Opening Day, and they might ruin the

520
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Speaker 4: number one prospect in baseball.

521
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Speaker 2: Because of that.

522
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Speaker 1: I think his talent is such for maybe you've heard

523
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Speaker 1: that he can't be ruined, but you're right. He should

524
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Speaker 1: only come to the majors when he's ready. But they

525
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Speaker 1: will feel that it is necessary pr wise that they

526
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Speaker 1: don't deliver any good addition in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he is extremely talented.

528
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Speaker 4: You don't get to be the number one overall prospect

529
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Speaker 4: in all of baseball without a ton of talent.

530
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Speaker 2: So his talent might prevail mark.

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Speaker 4: But like as far as him reaching that absolute ceiling,

532
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Speaker 4: I mean, in baseball, you can get overwhelmed so early

533
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Speaker 4: in your career and then you'll just never get back

534
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Speaker 4: to the heights that.

535
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Speaker 2: You were promised you could get to.

536
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Speaker 4: You get blown away a couple of years with those

537
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Speaker 4: pitches that you see, he might never get back to

538
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Speaker 4: that level that you were once projected at.

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Speaker 1: Tom. We even taught Pitt's playing East Carolina in what

540
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Speaker 1: ball the Military Bowl? The Military Bowl is that like

541
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Speaker 1: have a village people thing like like one guy's military

542
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Speaker 1: one guys that construction.

543
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Speaker 4: No, I think it's in honor of the troops. Mark,

544
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Speaker 4: it's at Annapolis and Navy Stadium.

545
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Speaker 2: See what I thought it was? Who cares bull?

546
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Speaker 1: Which is a nice change from the Schmuck Bowl that

547
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Speaker 1: they usually plan. Penn State's playing Collption and this should

548
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: have done better ball because we both thought they should.

549
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: We think they both should have done better.

550
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Speaker 1: I see zero punk the bowl games now that the

551
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Speaker 1: playoff expanded, And aren't all these teams gonna have like

552
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: every good player that has NFL ambition refused to play.

553
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you're gonna see players probably from

554
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: East Carolina and Pitt looking into that portal, right and

555
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: looking out for number one and probably pulling the shoot

556
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Speaker 4: on a.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. He doesn't play, That means he's

558
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Speaker 2: probably leaving.

559
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: That's alarm bells up, right, because why wouldn't he just

560
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 4: go out there and get some reps and play if

561
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Speaker 4: he planned on playing for pit next year.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling a story later, Tom.

563
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Speaker 1: I bet you know what player this is, or maybe

564
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: I've told him before, because I forget everything I've said,

565
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Speaker 1: let alone on this program. But there is a pit

566
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Speaker 1: player who took like a million dollars of nil money

567
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Speaker 1: and then left the next week.

568
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Speaker 2: Do you hear that story? I think I know who

569
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about. He just left.

570
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Speaker 1: And then when they when they said to him, well,

571
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Speaker 1: you you know, like the don the donor the went

572
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: to him, I think to his dad and said, well

573
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Speaker 1: you always up money.

574
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Speaker 2: He goes, Oh, where's your contract?

575
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the wild West that you're playing in right now.

576
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: With college sports, there's no contract, there's no pen to paper.

577
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Speaker 4: A lot of times with these kids.

578
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure like whether I should say who it

579
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Speaker 1: is or not, but I will say this, it's my

580
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: favorite pit player of all time.

581
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Speaker 2: I'm nine.

582
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Speaker 3: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six of course

583
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Speaker 3: X Music on the X Mark Man pregame show one DX.

584
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Speaker 2: What are we going for the trifecta?

585
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Speaker 1: Tom brought to us by Danny's patron Hogies on Route

586
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Speaker 1: eighty eight in Bethel Park.

587
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Speaker 2: Think you got a fun one today?

588
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: For the trifecta, Mark, I'm gonna go with celebrities who

589
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: were late bloomers becoming super famous.

590
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Really you were a late bloomer.

591
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: I just thought radio Type was thirty five.

592
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: Oh that's definitely qualifying as a late bloomer. Then yeah,

593
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: then exactly just like you. Uh number three for me,

594
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Brian Cranston. Now, he broke out

595
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: big time with Breaking Bad, but would you agree that

596
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: Malcolm in the Middle was kind of where he became

597
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 4: a famous person.

598
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think once he broke up big and

599
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, the people backtracked to what he had done previous.

600
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: And you see Malcolm in the Middle such as Malcolm

601
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: in the Middle and Tim Whatley on side.

602
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Speaker 4: No question about Tim Whatley, but that was only a

603
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: bit character in the time. It was in like three

604
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: or four episodes, So yeah, that was after the fact.

605
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: But nonetheless Tim Watt became a thing after Brian Cranston.

606
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Speaker 4: Popped in forty four was how old he was on

607
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: Malcolm in the Middle, So he was even older when

608
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: he hooked up with Breaking Bats Away. Lately, Good show,

609
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: Frankie Munist solid you like Frankie Munis from Stuck on

610
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: You though, the movie with Great Kenear and Matt.

611
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Damon in there for a cameo. He was the bed

612
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Speaker 2: number two for me.

613
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Speaker 1: I'm going to the best line from from Uh Stuck

614
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Speaker 1: on Us, when Share goes, oh, I treated you terribly.

615
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: I was a bitch with the capital C.

616
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: That's a very underrated comedy. Uh number two for me,

617
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Samuel L. Jackson didn't really break

618
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: out until pulp Fiction. He was in his mid forties

619
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Speaker 4: for that had some other roles that you go back to,

620
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 4: just like Cranston Coming to America is a super famous

621
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: one when he sticks up the restaurant mcdowe's. But he

622
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: wasn't famous back then again backtracking, yeah, exactly. So he

623
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: really breaks out with pulp fiction.

624
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Speaker 2: He was so good in Pulp Fiction. Now, that's a

625
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: great movie. It is one of the bad is. That's

626
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Speaker 2: probably Tarantino's best. I think I would land others. I

627
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: rewatch more like Bastards. But in terms of the best

628
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: movie Tarantito made, it's got to be.

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Speaker 4: I think it is probably his number one. But Samuel Jackson.

630
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: Now he's like the biggest star on earth, or one

631
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Speaker 4: of them. Like he's in almost every freaking movie.

632
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: And he just did Tulsa King. He had a guest

633
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: appearance in Tulsa King. He was in it for half

634
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Speaker 1: the episode.

635
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Speaker 4: He was probably so great. Number one for me, though,

636
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Speaker 4: I'll go with Rodney Dangerfield. He was forty six years

637
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: old when he really started to hit it on the

638
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: talk show circuits as a comedian, and then, of course

639
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Speaker 4: Caddy Shack was his breakout role as far as movies

640
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: are concerned. He was fifty nine when they filmed Caddy Shack.

641
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Speaker 4: And I always loved the story about how Rodney tried

642
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: to get into comedy early in life failed started selling

643
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: aluminum siding for like ten years just to support his family,

644
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Speaker 4: and then he finally got back into it again.

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Speaker 1: You know, Caddy Shack was Rodney's first movie, and he

646
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Speaker 1: just didn't understand how to be directed. Like if you

647
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Speaker 1: read one of the various Caddyshack books, Whenever whenever the

648
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Speaker 1: director would say action, John I think.

649
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Speaker 2: Was John landis is that right? So yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Whenever he would say action, Rodney would just stand, there

651
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Speaker 1: wasn't it.

652
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Speaker 2: No Ramis was Caddyshack. Oh okay, okay, but but wait,

653
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Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about. Sorry, I was thinking Animal

654
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Speaker 2: House for a second house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.

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Speaker 1: Ramis did direct Caddyshack, and he would go action and

656
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Speaker 1: Dangerfield would just freeze and he would say, oh, like,

657
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Speaker 1: do my bit, and he would go, yeah, do your bit,

658
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: and then after a while Ramis would just say, Rodney,

659
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: do your bit. But he's such an if you watched

660
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: that movie like and know what to look for Dangerfield.

661
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Aside from when he's talking whatever the the other characters

662
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: are talking, he shuts down and just has this wide

663
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Speaker 1: eyed stare like everything going on around him is insane,

664
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Speaker 1: which actually fit the movie.

665
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Speaker 4: I also heard a story from that from filming where

666
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Speaker 4: he thought he was doing terrible, Like they would film

667
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: his bits and he'd do his stuff and he'd come

668
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: after they'd you know, rap, and he'd be like, I'm

669
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: drowing out here. No one's laughing, and they were like, Rodney,

670
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: it's a movie set, Like, we can't laugh. It'll get

671
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: we can't. It's picked up on the microphone.

672
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Speaker 2: Right. I thought he was dying out there.

673
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Right, and uh, you know, the only person on the

674
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: set that wasn't doing copious amounts of cocaine?

675
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Was Ted Knight? Right? He hated making that movie, right.

676
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: I hope the dinner didn't he shouldn't. It was great, Well, it.

677
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: Was great after the fact, but I think the process

678
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: he didn't like it very much. Very unprofessional set, I think.

679
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: And Dangerfield was the regular Hoover knows and he was

680
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: how old then even you know, fifty nine?

681
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: He's fifty nine years old and doing like I said,

682
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: tons of blog that's crazy.

683
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: The uh the uh Trifector Brook was by Danny's Peach

684
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven baked togy since nineteen sixty. Tom,

685
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: we have some news about the NFL Draft, which is

686
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of course going to be in Pittsburgh this April.

687
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first round has been shortened play.

688
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: Our teams will only have eight minutes instead of ten

689
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: minutes now to select a player.

690
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Isn't that great? That'll change everything? Two less minutes per pick?

691
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: See, I would have it so you have ninety seconds

692
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: to select the player, and if you don't, you lose

693
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: the pick, and if like another team cackles you on

694
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: the way to the podium, that cons against the time.

695
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: I think that's great. Both of those ideas are great.

696
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: We need to add more stakes to this because it's

697
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: it's got a little too boring. Honestly, go out, you

698
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: read a name off a name card, and then you're done.

699
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: Let's let's steal picks. Stealing picks should definitely be a

700
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: part of this.

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00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: You know, I've been looking at some mock drafts and

702
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Actually, okay, I do know why,

703
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: because I had heard what I'm about to say is true,

704
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: and I feel embarrassed to say that for any reason.

705
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: I've been looking at mock drafts.

706
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: But you know how all these great quarterbacks were supposed

707
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to go in the first round, right, and the Steelers

708
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: were going to get one of those. Do you know

709
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: now that some mock drafts have only one or two

710
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks projected first round?

711
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Indiana ones like the only consensus one, right,

712
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: Fernando Mendez is like the only one that everybody pretty

713
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: much thinks is the first round pick.

714
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea or Drew Allers sucked and got hurt.

715
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: Gut hurt, arch is coming back, like that's we know

716
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: that for sure, not for sure, but I feel like

717
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: that's why some.

718
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Who insisted if he goes into the draft, he will

719
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: go first overall just based on being Arch managed.

720
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: Our football guru thinks he should go first overall this year.

721
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Matt Williamson, if he were to enter the draft, thinks

722
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: the talent is just enormous, but he's going.

723
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: To go back to Texas.

724
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: I would never say Matt Williamson is just absolutely insane,

725
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: not not loud. No, you know what, though, He's probably right,

726
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: but Arch probably would go first overall for the wrong reasons,

727
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: just because he's Arch Manning.

728
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to some of the other candidates,

729
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: though it was just a miss as far as the

730
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: preseason evaluation was for some of these quarterbacks. Mark, I

731
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: don't think we can ignore the fact that when these

732
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: players get three, four or five million dollars in college,

733
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: now that motivation just might leave them. They they made

734
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: it then at that point, right like why do I

735
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: need to go to the NFL? Why do I need

736
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: to really pour everything?

737
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: He's on the kids mental make up.

738
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Speaker 1: Of course, ambition, because you know some kids like just

739
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: to make the NFL as everything.

740
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: Of course, of course, but I'm saying it opens it

741
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: up more so for that to maybe happen.

742
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Speaker 1: I think I think there are some kids, like kids

743
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: who were brought up poor, who just the minute they

744
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: get the money, they've accomplished the goal and what they

745
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: got it from nil or get it in the NFL.

746
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. The money was the Yes, he was

747
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: the ambition period. It's a great goal to accomplish too.

748
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Speaker 4: You pick your family up that way and they're going

749
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: to be able to But I'm just saying, I wonder

750
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Speaker 4: if you know, maybe a quarterback gets five million, gets

751
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 4: a little comfortable now all of a sudden, doesn't wish

752
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: to become even better and go to the NFL and excel.

753
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Uh here's a question God to bring up for the

754
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: opening monologue next hour. But I want your opinion, Tom,

755
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: who would be the Steelers MVP right now?

756
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: It'd be Rogers? Right.

757
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: You kind of just default into him because he has

758
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: won some games with some moxie, some guyle as you

759
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: like to say.

760
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: What about on the defensive side of the ball? Oh,

761
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: that's really tough.

762
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: Would you go with Jalen Ramsey especially making that shift

763
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: to safety and kind of help.

764
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: He's been mostly invisible for a number of weeks now and.

765
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: That's the thing, Mark, why did we trade Mega Fitzpatrick

766
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: Because he was doing just okay right, keeping the lid

767
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 4: on everything. He wasn't making the splash at that safety spot.

768
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: Now.

769
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I have Jalen Ramsey doing the exact same

770
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: thing that Minca was probably a little bit worse than

771
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: Minca too. Mico was probably a slightly better safety still

772
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: at this point than Ramsey is.

773
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's no splash.

774
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: Man.

775
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 4: I don't know Herbig was making a good push early

776
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: in the season, but he's faded lately, right, Like, where's

777
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 4: the curly plays.

778
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Of anybody on defense?

779
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm totally blowing up my monologue

780
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: open then hour Alex Heismith. He's had more good games

781
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: on defense than anybody, but he's also been hurt off.

782
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: It's hurt all the time.

783
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: You can't say somebody like James Pierre is the MVP,

784
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: but he is probably the most overachieving member of that defense.

785
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: The Pirates are gonna sign anybody.

786
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm I'm kind of starting to root for them to

787
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: not right, like to see almost like the bit play out,

788
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: to have them almost do a troll job of the

789
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: fan base in the offseason. And almost get this guy,

790
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: almost get that guy, and literally signing nobody. Your big

791
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: pieces on opening day are Griffin in the password. I

792
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: think that there's a definite, realistic possibility that we could

793
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 4: see that with the Pirates, especially because they're just wasting

794
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: time with the Schwarber sweepstakes. Go get the confordos, like

795
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 4: I said earlier, get the guys that you could actually

796
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: maybe sign by overpaying.

797
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: Now here's a tweet from a pitching analytics guy who

798
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: might as well be under the tent with the with

799
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: the local pirate stooges.

800
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: The Pirates are actually trying this year, it seems. Don't

801
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: let the er a fool you.

802
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Soda limits hard contact with elite stuff as well as anyone.

803
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: His walk rate also took a big step forward the mets.

804
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: He's said to become a high leverage weapon in Pittsburgh

805
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: right away.

806
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: Don't let the era fool you.

807
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: So this metric that has been used forever to tell

808
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: how good a pitcher is like the baseline metric for them,

809
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: just don't ignore that.

810
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those you know, Twitter

811
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: concert websites that just says everybody's good. Because now with

812
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: all the advanced stats, you can find a stat to

813
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: say that somebody's good.

814
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like he's great when he throws a fastball

815
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: in a two to one count against a hitter. So

816
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: like you amplify that and say, oh, look at that

817
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 4: rate that he has on this pitch. It's going to

818
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: be great. The Pirates can get the most out of that.

819
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: Era still matters. And guess what, all the players, like

820
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: the skemes Is of the world that have great eras

821
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: their advanced stats are great too.

822
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: Like it translates that way.

823
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Matt Clement on the B team, he said, this is

824
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: a great pickup. I'd rather Matt Clement pitching right now.

825
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: He was good.

826
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: Gregory Soto is a great pickup. I mean, they're really

827
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna boast Joxtnixon. Shut up, Tom, don't even try to

828
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: be sarcastic. Let me let me throw this out.

829
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

830
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: I'm serious, He's a great pick No, I'm asking why

831
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: is that something that they're saying, How is that really

832
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 4: a take that someone's gonna have that this is something

833
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: that you should be proud of.

834
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: You let me bounce it off you like this, Let's

835
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: say Gregory Soto is everything he could possibly be let's

836
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: say is the ra's I don't know, three point five, okay,

837
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: and he is among the top ten setup men in

838
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: the league.

839
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: And that's the best case scenario. Would't you agree? Yes?

840
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: How much will that affect their one loss? Very minimally?

841
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: They might in fact lose more games next year even

842
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: despite that, because they had that this year, they had

843
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: solid pitching and a good bullpen.

844
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: It got them nowhere.

845
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: Why would it a good bullpen and solid pitching get

846
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: them further this coming season when they add nothing to

847
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: the lineup except for the password.

848
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: I agree, but you know, I don't hate being, you know,

849
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: thought of as this hater. I think I'm a truther,

850
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: But Tom, I like. I talked to Noahiles last night

851
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: at the Pealicam and I like, no he's a good writer,

852
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: but he's a fan of the Pirates.

853
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: Mack. He's a fan of the Pirates.

854
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: Everybody who covers the team is a fan of the Pirates,

855
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: and I just think it's an ongoing criminal enterprise and

856
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: should be covered as such.

857
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of the Pirates too, but don't you

858
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: think that part of fandom is being a little adversarial

859
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: towards the team?

860
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: That you're a fan of, Well, you should be adversarial

861
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: if you're in the media. If you're in the media,

862
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: of no doubt, I've.

863
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Always been adversarial with the Penguins, even though it's the

864
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: team I've supported since I was a boy.

865
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: You can adversarial with Liverpool sometimes if there's stuff that

866
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: you don't like that they're doing.

867
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: You're a fan of that team and you want them

868
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: to succeed.

869
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: If you think they're getting in their own way of succeeding,

870
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: you call them out as a fan.

871
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: You don't just fan the way. I'm not having to

872
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: criticize five nine x