1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: It's for an iHeart radio station guaranteed. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Human like like, I don't know if anything is absolute, 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I had to add 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: enough confidence to feel comfortable. 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: But certainly, you know, as they say, in this business man, 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: nothing is solid in his business to the inks dry 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: and so but I felt very confident. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: Coach Tomlin talking about this Pittsburgh Steeler campaign with us 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: at Steelers training camp in La Trobe this past August, 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: and that will be his nineteenth and final, which is 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: hard to believe. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 5: It's hard to believe. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: He won't be uh walking around the field art Runey 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: Field there Saint Vincent College in the summer, welcoming the 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: throngs of Steeler fence. By the way, you have to 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: say throngs throngs of Steeler fans who pilgrimage out to 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: La Trobe each and every summer. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: And you can say La Trobe or Latrobe. It doesn't matter. Apparently, 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 5: it's not gonna feel real. 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 6: I think it's it's really it's going to hit another 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 6: layer of setting in when he's not a camp this year. 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: I agree it's going to field well. The first game 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: on the sidelines who is this guy? 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? Like what if? Like, how's the new guy gonna dress? 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: Will he wear a hat? 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 6: There's a high bar, Yeah, there's not a very high 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 6: I think, and a hat is really all he did. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 6: Vast gentleman's vest. Yes, tech guy vest. 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: I wonder who you know what kind of coach of 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: the Steelers gonna go out and get now tad, you know, 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 4: will it be a meathead? Will it be an analytics guy? 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: You know, one of the many archetypes. Will it be 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: a storied uh uh nfl uh like Tom Donahoe, not 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: Tom don Tom Coughlin type, you know, disciplinary, Yeah, one 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: of those guys. I don't know what it's gonna end 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: up being. Sounds like it's going to be a young 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: guy again. Chris Shula, Marcus Freeman. 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: We keep hearing. 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: You know. 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 6: I think with teams that replace their head coaches a lot, 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 6: and I feel this way in all sports. If you 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 6: had the crazy yells all the time guy, when that 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 6: guy gets fired, the pendulum swings the other way and 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 6: you get the most Solly to John Russell, Yes and 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 6: also like the yes, yeah, but the Steelers obviously have 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 6: a thing that they like to do. Mike talked about it, 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 6: you know, young defensive minded guy. 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: I know you have your reflections on these past nineteen years, Dad, Yeah, 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: you know it's been a somber time, a reflection for me. 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's really set in yet, but 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: I was. 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 6: I sat back yesterday and you know, tried to think 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 6: about the the legacy of Mike Tomlin here and some 56 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 6: of my memories with them. Nineteen years is a long 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 6: time to do anything. I remember his first press conference, 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: this plucky thirty four year old defensive coordinator from the Vikings. 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 6: It was well spoken, and he chalked up an early 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: win with Steeler fans by wearing a black suit with 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 6: a gold tie, as if to say, these are the 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 6: team's colors. 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: Yes, and I'm aware of that. That's right. 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: Tam established himself as a no nonsense guy pretty early. 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: On two thousand and eight, he put the kaibosh on 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 6: Santa Claus visiting the coaches. Prescott's right, that's right. Yeah, 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 6: we'll have to ask Mike about that at some point. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 6: It's sort of it set like the precedent for his 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: moral code. If I think something is stupid, I'm out. 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 6: It feels pretty easy to break Mike Tomlin's tenure into 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: two periods, the ten years before the twenty seventeen Divisional 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 6: round loss to the Jaguars and the nine years that followed. 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 6: I mean, the first decade was extremely fun, you know, 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 6: I thought it was all very fun. 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: Maybe the message got stale. 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: Maybe the team was constructed to win in an antiquated 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 6: way that can't make you elite. And yeah, TJ and 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 6: Derrick Watt, the Haywards, Nate and Nick Herbig. He obviously 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 6: developed some kind of brothers fetish over the years. 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 5: You forgot about the Edmonds. 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: He was. 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 6: Trying to engineer that one. And maybe yeah they were 83 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 6: triplets too. Yeah, if only Tremaine were worse, we could 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 6: get him. He had so many great qualities. You know, 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: let's not overlook that he should go into the Hall 86 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 6: of Fame for his management of Antonio Brown alone. It's 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 6: his players seem to love him. He was, by all accounts, 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 6: highly regarded by his peers. And let's not forget Mike 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: Tomlin was cool as hell. Oh yeah, cooler than every 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 6: other coach in the league anyway. 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: Put it this way. He never ran out of the 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: tunnel with toilet paper on the show it did not happen. 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: I have a vivid recollection of watching Hard Knocks in 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 6: my parents' basement. In twenty twelve, Miami was the featured 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 6: team and Joe Philben was their head coach. 96 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 5: I remember thinking to. 97 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: Myself, Wow, this dude sucks. There is nothing interesting about 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 6: this guy at all. 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: Uh. 100 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 6: It felt like at any moment Joe Philbin was going 101 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 6: to call a team meeting and try to sell them 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 6: supplemental insurance. At the very least, the Tomlin led Steeler 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 6: team would never be dorks. 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, like John Gannon in uh oh, Arizona. You know, 105 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: like one of those guys where it's like they just 106 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: they're just awkward and weird or boring and it's just 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: not fun to reof for him. 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 6: Completely unrelatable, like to ownership, and I think to the players, yeah, 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: who are you serving? 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like a lot of people didn't like that. 111 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: Tomlin was super cocky, would like do the blow of 112 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: the kiss and all that and pet the chest pound 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: which was owed to uh. 114 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: I can't remember who who was he? Yes, some UFC guys. 115 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 5: I thought it was sweet. I don't know. You know 116 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: me too. 117 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: He was a smooth dude. We'll always have the tomlinisms 118 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 6: among my favorites. 119 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: We do not care. I'd rather have to say woa 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 5: than sick. That's a good one. 121 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 6: The fine line between drinking wine and squashing grapes. If 122 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 6: you're gonna dance all night, you better wear a diaper. 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: I don't remember that one. I made that last one 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: up a right, But that. 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 6: Was the beauty of Mike t the order he could 126 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 6: casually drop a phrase like that at the podium after 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 6: a big win and it would sound legit. 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 5: Yeah uh yeah, be prepared, right, that's what that means. 129 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 6: Maybe it'd be on a T shirt in the Strip 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 6: District by noon on Mondays? Would a Steelers team led 131 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 6: by Mike Tomlin was never a laughing stock. People hate 132 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 6: the non losing season staff. To put it in perspective, 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 6: the Browns have finished under five hundred and sixteen times 134 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 6: since the Mike Tomlin airly coow sixteen times. 135 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: It's a lot. 136 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 6: I see a lot of high thinking Steeler fans talking 137 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: about going three and fourteen to improve their draft position. 138 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: Wow, heady stuff. 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 6: I think it was sun Zoo who once said to 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 6: be good, one must first suck, and I think. 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 5: I deserve a little credit for not turning that into 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: a Bobby sub guy. 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, anyway, sure, hey, yeah, let's tag for 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: a year. 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 5: Sounds great. 146 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 6: If anyone needs me, I'll be on a twelve month bender. 147 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: Who wants to do that? I know it's Madden. 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: Was was endorsing that yesterday. He wanted a three and 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: fourteen year with Will Howard at quarterback. And I'm like, 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: I don't want that. Will Howard doesn't want that. No, 151 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: Will Howard is very much in the why do I 152 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: have to suck? 153 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 154 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was drafted. 155 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 6: Being a head coach in the NFL means fighting battles 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: on a strategic level that we the fans haven't even 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 6: considered the game within the game, if you will. And 158 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 6: in that regard, Tomond had many rivals. Tomlin versus the clock, Oh, 159 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 6: Tomlin versus his fears. 160 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: He lived in him sometimes he did. 161 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: Did Tomlin vers challenge the call on the field? Tomlin's 162 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: leg versus Jakobe Jones, Tomlin versus Jory Rand's press conference question? 163 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: Now you reminded me of this. 164 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: I forgot when Jory Ran worked for Channel two back 165 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: in the day that he and Tomlin just did not jive. 166 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 5: My first go. 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 6: Round with a clear channel like fifteen years ago. Ever, 168 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 6: iHeart days three, iHeart yeah. 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 170 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 6: I was a gopher and one of my responsibilities was 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 6: to record sound at the Tomlin press conference. And every 172 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 6: week Jory Rand respectfully would wait till the end of 173 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 6: the press conference to ask him the TV questions that 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: no one that were like ridiculous and fluffy. Yeah, so 175 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: he'd be like very allowed to be like any more questions, 176 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 6: and jury would go. 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 5: Mike, what are you gonna dress up for us Halloween? 178 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 6: Mike full candy bar, fun size stuff like that, and 179 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 6: Tomlin was into it. 180 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: It was awesome, a formidable time. 181 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: Jory works for the Jacksonville Free Press now and things 182 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: are going much better for him. 183 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 6: No, he's killing it good, dude. I mean, I'm happy 184 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 6: for Mike Tomlin. The job sounds like a horrible grind. 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 6: I can't imagine he ever sleeps. Coach t deserves some rest. 186 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 6: Get into fishing, sure, take a pottery class, go on 187 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 6: a guy's trip with John Harbaugh and Kevin Stefanski. 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: Raise a little hell Myrtle Geneva on the lake. I 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: don't know. 190 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: Then he can come back with a full heart and 191 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 6: right the coming of middle aged Buddy movie in which 192 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: Tomlin is played by Michael B. Jordan, Chris Pine and 193 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 6: has cast is Kevin Stefanski and John Harbaugh's character is 194 00:09:50,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: played by a muppet NAMEDI. Coach Tomon was a huge 195 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 6: part of our lives of the Zeitgeists, Yeah Pittsburgh over 196 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 6: these last two decades. I feel like I grew up 197 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 6: with the guy. And this can't be overstated. You know 198 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 6: this doesn't happen that we are witnessing the Yinzer conclave 199 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 6: right now. Soon the smoke will rise from the south 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 6: side facility and a new Stealer head coach will be named. 201 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 6: So how will we remember Mike tomalind the ninth winning 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 6: is coach in NFL history. Well, at some point that 203 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 6: it may be hard to believe these right now will 204 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 6: become the good old days, especially if the next guy sucks. 205 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: Which there's a good chance the next guy sucks. 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 6: He might suck, So I'm gonna choose to remember Coach 207 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 6: t the way we were. Also, just a quick note, 208 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: this is per Adam Schefter tomand will have to worry 209 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: the exact same sweater Bill Kaher wore at the. 210 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: Press conference when he resigned it's the humiliation ritual that 211 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: the Rudies make you do on the way out. 212 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 5: It's a clause. I never wondered to wear those fliters. 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 4: I like the idea of the ins or conclave and 214 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: like black and gold smoke coming out of the Hinds 215 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: stacks or something. 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: You know. 217 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: Well done, Tad, thanks for for just summing up everybody's 218 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: feelings this morning. 219 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: It stop Rob King joining. 220 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: Us from the Steelers Audio Network and King her You 221 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: were in here all morning yesterday, well not all morning, 222 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: but a good portion of it, and we had no indication, 223 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: nobody seemingly had any indication that this was going to happen. 224 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: How surprised were you that Mike Tomlin decided, you know what, 225 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: that's it. 226 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say very you know, like you said, 227 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 7: we had no inkling. You know there was I suppose 228 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 7: if you look back, you know there were people reporting, hey, 229 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 7: there's a there's a coach, you might step want to 230 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 7: step aside, and all this sudden stuff. But you know, 231 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 7: you see a lot of that kind of reporting, and 232 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 7: a lot of it is just quick bait or nonsense 233 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 7: or whatever. Well, maybe they were referring to my tomin 234 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 7: I don't know they were. You know, there were some 235 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 7: rumblings along the way, but I really didn't I really 236 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 7: didn't put much stock in that. You know. The one 237 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 7: thing when you listen to my Tom talk is that, 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 7: you know, I've said this before. My favorite part of 239 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 7: his press conference on Tuesdays when he starts talking about 240 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 7: the other team and he was saying, Yeah, I met 241 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 7: that guy when he's a senior in high school and 242 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 7: I took another guy, took his parents out on Pro 243 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 7: Day and you know, watch some work out, and you know, 244 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 7: he just loves football, and that love that's when it 245 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 7: really comes through to me. But he loves to be 246 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 7: involved in every aspect of it, down at the Senior 247 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: Bowl and all. 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: The other things he did. 249 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 7: And I just didn't think that, you know, I didn't 250 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 7: get the indication that this was going to be it. 251 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 7: But it's it, at least for now. 252 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 4: So do you think that it was something that the 253 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: Rooney family and Rooney knew about in advance and they 254 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: had both sort of been working with the knowledge that 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: all right, if we don't make it all the way 256 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: this year, we're gonna shake hands and say, you know, 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: so long, Or do you think our Rooney was also 258 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: taken by surprise. 259 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 7: I don't know. All I can tell you is that 260 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 7: I think Jerry do like that that they reported that 261 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 7: they had not had that conversation. Jerry has very good 262 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 7: sources within the students organization. I had to take his 263 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 7: word for it. I don't know. I mean, I just 264 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 7: I could make up an answer for you. With the 265 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 7: playing factor matters, Randy, I don't know. I had no 266 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 7: idea whether they had any conversation. I mean, I was 267 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 7: very very surprised yesterday with that announcement came, and I 268 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 7: don't know anybody else who wasn't. And I don't know 269 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 7: whether that includes the people internally in the stews organization 270 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 7: or not. 271 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Do you think that the message was getting stale as 272 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 4: so many have opined, or was there another factor that 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 4: was conspiring to just make it not work for them 274 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: in the postseason over the last eight years. 275 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question. I don't think that. I mean, 276 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 7: it's a legitimate question, for sure. You know a lot 277 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 7: of people are asking me, and I don't think that's 278 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 7: the case, Randy, because you know, first of all, there's 279 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 7: a lot of roster turnover, right, A lot of guys 280 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 7: are new, and I think he's gotten to that point 281 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 7: and gotten to that status where players want to play 282 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 7: for him. You know, there was always there used to 283 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 7: be those polls. I don't know if they still do them, 284 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 7: Hey who's the player's coach? Who would you most like 285 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 7: to play for? And he was always on those lists. 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 7: And I don't think that that is going to diminish 287 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 7: as he gets further on into his career. I think 288 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 7: people still want to play for him. You know, there 289 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: was some impassioned defenses of him by Cam Hayward and 290 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers example, a lot of people saying Aaron Rodgers 291 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 7: came here because he wanted to play for Mike Toma 292 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 7: and wanted to win a championship. You know, I thought 293 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 7: of the past. You know, it's hard to separate everything out, 294 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 7: but I think, you know, it's I think it's easy 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 7: in one way to lump all these years together and say, 296 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 7: look all these years of failure, this this is you know, 297 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 7: it is, this is like one item. But I think 298 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 7: that you know, in many of those years, they're just 299 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 7: they didn't they weren't good enough, you know, they just 300 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 7: didn't have a good enough roster. Yeah, and you know 301 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 7: that began at the quarterback position. When you think about 302 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 7: all the quarterbacks he's had. You know, I don't know 303 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 7: if I mentioned this yesterday, but this is the first team. 304 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: This Steelers team is the first time team in a 305 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 7: quarter of a century to make the playoffs three consecutive 306 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 7: years with three different starting quarterbacks. I mean, it's really 307 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 7: hard to win in the NFL without great quarterback play. 308 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: I thought this year they were going to be able 309 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 7: to break through and win and at least win a 310 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: game in the playoffs. I think this is the best 311 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 7: team they've had in several seasons, and this one fell short. 312 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 7: So this one, to me is more disappointing than the others. 313 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 7: I think I could look at the others and just say, hey, 314 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 7: they just weren't good enough this year. I thought they 315 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 7: had a good enough team to at least win a game. 316 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: Agreed, all right, So we've heard all the names being 317 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: bandied about as a replacement. What do you think will 318 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: be the most important attribute the next coach of the 319 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: Steelers has for Art Room needed to consider. 320 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 7: I think, you know, young, energetic. You know, those would 321 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 7: be two things like when I think of you know, 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 7: to see this coaches, you know Chuck Knowle was really 323 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 7: young when he was hired. Bill Cowell was really young 324 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 7: when he was hired. Mike Tomlin was really young when 325 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: he was hired. One other thing that's in common when 326 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 7: you think about all these names, I don't think any 327 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 7: of those guys were considered top of the Okay, this 328 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 7: is the guy, this is gonna be the guy. In fact, 329 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 7: if I'm correct, I think Dan Rooney back when he 330 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 7: hired Chuck Knowle, was resisting, you know, the overtures of 331 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 7: others to say he got to hire a more experienced guy, 332 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 7: a more well known guy. They will go with somebody. 333 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 7: I think it's an extremely attractive coaching position. Just look 334 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 7: at the stability. How would you like to be a 335 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 7: coaching step into that stability with this ownership and this 336 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 7: track of record and a pretty good roster as well. 337 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: So I don't know, if you know you hear the names, 338 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if it's if it's somebody you know, 339 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, they're gonna be like, oh hey, 340 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 7: check out this. You know, assistant offensive line coach for 341 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 7: the Broncos. You know he's the guy because they're looking 342 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 7: for a for a guy who I think you know, 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 7: brings those sort of attributes, the intelligence, certainly the football intelligence, 344 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 7: and the work ethic and the energy. I think that 345 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 7: those are the kind of things and that they'll be 346 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 7: looking for. 347 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: Rob King, Voice of the Steelers here on the Steelers 348 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: Audio Network, your flagship station of the Black and Gold, 349 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: one of two point five TV. 350 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: King or thanks for your time this morning. Appreciate it, buddy. 351 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: Thanks man to see it. 352 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll see you pursuit of joining us next Jeremy 353 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: Fowler from ESPN. He broke the story yesterday with Adam Schefter. 354 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: He'll join us at eight forty five. Max Starks, Mark 355 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: Madden More to come as we chronicle the last crazy 356 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: forty eight hours in Pittsburgh that has ended with Mike 357 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of the Steelers 358 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 4: after nineteen years and plus we'll pick some of our 359 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: favorite tomlinisms for you. 360 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be sad to see those go. Those were great. Yeah. 361 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, this squashing grapes and drinking wine will Yeah, it's 362 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: just a good it's a newer one. 363 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 364 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a last three years, five years. Yeah, but 365 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: I understand, you know, it's one of those one. Yeah, 366 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 5: there is a fine line. 367 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah one sucks, and yeah there's enjoying the fruit of 368 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: your labor. 369 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: That's good. Yeah, I need these to be fermented. 370 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: Just imagine him saying that next to Howie Long next year, 371 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: Terry Bradshago, I need to see these ahead of town 372 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: live from the town's appliances studios where Pittsburgh shops for appliances. 373 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: This is WDV Pittsburgh. 374 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: The fourth ghost of Christmas Past that lingers way too 375 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: long is showing up everywhere Holiday bills. 376 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: DVB gues here on your radio, Home of the Steelers DV. 377 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin stepping down after nineteen years as head coach. 378 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: It's still hard to believe. I'm having a hard time 379 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: wrapping my head around this. 380 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: Didn't see it coming, not this. 381 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: Way now, and I do think there needs to be 382 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: some sort of change. I just wasn't sure how it 383 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: was going to come about. 384 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 8: Sports is Up brought to you by Bridgevial Applied, so 385 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 8: it was fairly confident change was on the horizon. Didn't 386 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 8: think there was any way Mike Tomlin was going to 387 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 8: get fired after he won ten games in the Acon 388 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 8: North Division Championship but Tomlin also is a guy who's 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 8: resistant to staff change for a lot of reasons, and 390 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 8: I thought, Okay, this is going to come up, particularly 391 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 8: the way it ended. Had the Houston game gone the 392 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 8: way a lot of us were anticipating it was going 393 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 8: to be a thirteen to ten rock fight, somebody, Okay, 394 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 8: that's one result, thirty to six, and getting just steamrolled 395 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 8: the way they did probably ramped up the degree to 396 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 8: which change was going to be demanded. But I have 397 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 8: no idea if any of that was what Mike Tomlin 398 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 8: was thinking about or not. He just decided that's it 399 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 8: and there's nothing anybody can do about it. 400 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: Jeremy Fowley, Yeah, and there's nothing gonna be done. 401 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: Jeremy Fowler eight forty five, who was part of the 402 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: team with along with Schefter that broke that story. I 403 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 4: want to ask him about the notion that this is 404 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: just Was it Art Rooney going. 405 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 5: Hey, well, Mike, good, what are you gonna do this year? 406 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: You know, whatever you want, I'm fine with anything. Hey, 407 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: what you want a coffee? Are you thinking about Quinton? Yeah? 408 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: Was it that? 409 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: Or was it I don't think of Art Rooney saying, hey, 410 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: we're gonna need to bring in some coordinators and I've 411 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: you know, Omar and a couple other people are gonna. 412 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 5: I don't put some names out there. 413 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 8: It hasn't been reported that they even spoke yet. I mean, 414 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 8: I don't know that they had their quote unquote meeting. 415 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 8: I think he just came in and said, I'm done. 416 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 8: Well that's what I want to, yeah, figure out here. 417 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna get to the bottom of it, dammit. As 418 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 8: much we know, Mike Tomlin went out, Uh like Mike Tomlin. 419 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: I mean, do you think that'll be his legacy here? 420 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: Though? 421 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: What's that when all of a sudden done, Will people. 422 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: Be like he didn't win a playoff game for the 423 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: last eight years or well they think like, now you 424 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: want a Super Bowl year? 425 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: He never every year we had. 426 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: A chance, we had meaningful football for the entire nineteen 427 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: years he was here. 428 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think people choose to embrace these days. What 429 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 8: they choose to embrace, and they don't let the facts 430 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 8: get in the way. 431 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: Is very true. They just make up. 432 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 8: Their mind on something and that's it, and if they 433 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 8: need a little reinforcement, they find somebody who agrees with 434 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 8: them and say, there you go. 435 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 5: See, but this is the reality I want to live. 436 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 8: Then, you know, he was Mike Tomlins to the end. 437 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 8: Let's rewind back to training camp. Will turn out to 438 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 8: be Mike tomlins last training camp at Saint Vincent College. 439 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 8: Juan Thornhill, one of these Steelers perceived solutions heading into 440 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 8: the twenty twenty five season, said that he thought the 441 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 8: Steelers had a chance to be the NFL's one of 442 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 8: the NFL's all time best defenses this season. And when 443 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 8: Mike Tomlins sat down with the DV Morning show in Latrobe, 444 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 8: he didn't run away from that, he ran toward it. 445 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: You know, we feel really good about the prospects of 446 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: this group. 447 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: We do. We got to write that story. 448 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: But we got enough talent, we got enough stematics to 449 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: do big, big things. And when I say big things, 450 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the stored. 451 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: Things piled on. 452 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 8: And I talked to a number of people about that 453 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 8: in the wake of that comment. I think the best 454 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 8: answer I got was from Cole Holcombe, inside linebacker, and 455 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 8: he said, well, he's challenging us, he wants us to 456 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 8: he's daring us to be great. You know, I don't 457 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 8: know that it was so much a prediction. Yeah, we're 458 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 8: gonna break the eighty five Bears record for points against 459 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 8: the Ravens. 460 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: Record for suggesting that we plucked out something that he 461 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: said and then maybe pumped a little context behind it 462 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: that didn't exist. 463 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 8: Since it was on our show, probably us more than anybody. Yeah, yeah, 464 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 8: that's how this crap. 465 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 5: Stunned out went and make sure make that note. But no, 466 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 5: that's kind of who it was. He was. He often 467 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: talked in. 468 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 8: Riddles. Is probably not the right word, but uh the 469 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: word is it? 470 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was. 471 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 8: He would come up with wild analogies and and and 472 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 8: try to be entertaining and uh, he would go on 473 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 8: and on about stuff. But he was also very direct 474 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 8: at times and very singularly focused. That was one of 475 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 8: his favorite Uh. You know, he wanted to win and 476 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 8: win big, and he thought they could every year. 477 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: He was a vasive at times, and you'd use language 478 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: to dance around things, no question about it. He's linguistic gymnastics. 479 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 4: As I used to say that he would perform on 480 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: a weekly basis. 481 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: I think, you know the whole message thing. 482 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: I think the fan base got tired of hearing from 483 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 8: him more than the players. 484 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 5: Fans arned it. 485 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 8: For nineteen years, players did not right, and he got 486 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 8: to the point you knew what he was going to 487 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 8: say after a game, you knew what he was going 488 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 8: to say on Tuesday, and he would do. 489 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: The low resume his resume. 490 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 8: Craven Brown's are fine football team and they're gonna be Yeah, 491 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 8: Rockers is a good football team. 492 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 5: You know it's sixty eight to three. They'd win. 493 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 8: You know, that's a TV show. He has to talk 494 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 8: for so long. That's why he does that. I mean, 495 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 8: what a lot didn't win enough? So now what do 496 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 8: you do if I'm the Steelers? 497 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 498 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 8: Hi, John Harbaugh, No, for real. I can't wait to 499 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 8: hear what Ur Rooney has to say about it today. 500 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 8: Art does not often make declarative statements, but if you 501 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 8: listen close, he usually gives you a hint or two 502 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 8: as to how he's thinking. Yeah, and you know the playbook, 503 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 8: going back to the Chuck Nole higher was you find 504 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 8: a young defensive coach that you think has great coaching 505 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 8: chops and great potential, a guy that will not be 506 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 8: overwhelmed initially and who can grow into the job and 507 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 8: be there for a long time. They did that with 508 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 8: Noel won four Super Bowls. He's in the Hall of Fame. 509 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 8: They did that with Bill Kauer won a Super Bowl. 510 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 8: He's seen in the Hall of Fame. Yet who cower? Yeah, 511 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 8: we were there for it. And now you got Mike 512 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 8: Tomlin won a Super Bowl and he's going to the 513 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. So do you do you keep running 514 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 8: that play or do you take a look at the 515 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 8: way the game is evolving? Not the defense will never 516 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 8: be unimportant, but his offense more important. Now you know 517 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 8: it's the old defense, excellent's champions think championships thing going 518 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 8: out of style. 519 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: Jeremy Fowler from ESPN, along with Adam Schefter, broke the 520 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: news yesterday. Jeremy Fowler joins us next on your radio 521 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: home of the Steelers DVE. 522 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: DVV has your No Destruction rock and roll at Jenny 523 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: m and three p Michelle, My Thoughts and Chad Tyson 524 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: bring you Workforce commercial three hours every weekday on DVE. 525 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: We i's Randy Bauman at the DV Morning Show and 526 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one A two 527 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: point five DVE and joining us right now, one of 528 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 4: the guys along with Adam Schefter, who broke the story 529 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: of Mike Tomlin resigning after nineteen years as head coach 530 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jeremy Fowler our old friend, joining 531 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: us now on the DV morning show. 532 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: Jeremy, good morning. How are you? 533 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: Hey, good morning gang, Thanks for having me. 534 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for making time for us this morning. I 535 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: mean that news is still taking me by surprise. To 536 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: be honest with you, do you have any sense of 537 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 4: the concrete reasons why, Well, I think. 538 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 3: There are a few, uh, a couple of those I'll 539 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: lean on. Really what I heard he said to the 540 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 3: team yesterday, which is basically that, uh, I'm sorry, uh 541 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: got a call and get a get out of that 542 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: and get back. 543 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 5: In my notes. Tell you're talking to he said something. 544 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: Now, you're good, You're good, said, really, someone has to 545 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: move the franchise forward. That I couldn't deliver for you anymore. 546 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: Like he kind of put it on himself not getting 547 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: it done. Now that said, I know for a while 548 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: Tomlin had been thinking about stepping away. I don't think 549 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 3: it was a situation where it was a mandate that 550 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: he leave or anything like that, but in the meeting 551 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: with the team he did say, hey, look, this is 552 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: sort of a game of throne style business. It's cut 553 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: throats and if you don't get it done, you don't 554 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: get it done. And I didn't get it done for you. 555 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: So I do think he recognize to the team that 556 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: renewed optimism was needed for the franchise, that he wasn't 557 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: delivering that anymore, even though you could argue that a 558 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: lot of these teams overachieved in part because of him, 559 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: and so you have that dynamic, you have the TV component. 560 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: I do think is real that he's going to be 561 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: courted here. I think that's been on the table since 562 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: the summer, to be honest, not formally, but I think 563 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: like it's been made known to him, Hey, you're gonna 564 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 3: have some some good opportunities here if you do, if 565 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: and when you do step away. And I think he 566 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 3: from what I was told directly from sources I've been 567 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: talking to me for the last few weeks, is that 568 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: he just needs a life reset. Kids are out of 569 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: school now, out of the house. You know, he's been 570 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: doing it and giving it all he can for two 571 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: decades really, and it's just probably time. 572 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: Was there any notion that Art Rooney pushed back on 573 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: it and said, no, no, you're you're good. 574 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 5: We like you. 575 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: It can work or was seld Yeah right, you're oh 576 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: my god. 577 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 578 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm wondering if he got any pushback from Art Rooney 579 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: there and in the form of him trying to course 580 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: him to stay. 581 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't got an answer on that in particular. 582 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: So it's certainly possible that the Rooney felt like it 583 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 3: was time as well, but I cannot speak directly to that. 584 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: But what I do know is that Mike Common went 585 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: into Monday with a purpose. Part of that purpose was 586 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: to let our Rooney know his plans, and then he 587 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: knew at the team meeting at two o'clock. He was 588 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: telling the team, so he had a plan carefully crafted out. 589 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: What Art Rooney the Second's involvement in that plan was, 590 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly, but I do believe it was 591 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: truly a stepping down situation. And I don't think it 592 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: was like, hey, you know you like, you know, we're 593 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: ready to for you to move on. Why don't you 594 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: tell the team it's your decision. I really don't think it. 595 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: Was that, and it wasn't something that he shared with 596 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: Art Rooney. You know, several weeks ago that he was 597 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: leaning in this direction in case they wanted to start 598 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: to get their ducks in a rows. 599 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: Some people are asserting. 600 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: The indication that I've gotten is that that was not 601 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: the case. I cannot say that for certain, but I'm 602 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: just not aware of those kind of talks. The indication 603 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: I was getting was that this was a Tomlin driven plan. 604 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: When you talk about the carrot being dangled with TV, 605 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: I mean much easier lifestyle, really good money. Also, do 606 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: you get the sense that that is the final destination 607 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: for him or will this be more of a Sean 608 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: Payton situation? 609 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Well, Champayne late a night blueprint for him, Right, go 610 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: do TV for a year, come back, and then the 611 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: team that you previously coached retains your rights like the 612 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: Steelers do, unless they worked out some sort of buyout 613 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: or negotiation I'm not aware of, but they would own 614 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: his rights because he's still under contract. He'd have to 615 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: swing of trade with that new perspective team, and obviously 616 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: I think it's it goes without saying his market would 617 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: be really strong for that for another team to land in. 618 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: I know I've had to several coaching agents that are 619 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: sort of rejoicing thinking Tom and will sity here come 620 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: back and get the biggest contracts in the NFL to 621 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: reset the entire coaching landscapes, that is something that's sort 622 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: of been anticipated. But beyond that, I know Tom and 623 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: essentially told the team that, you know, I don't want 624 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: to coach anywhere else, But he worded it in such 625 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: a way where it's like, I think people walked away saying, Okay, well, 626 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: if he comes back down the road, it's because you know, 627 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: he just loves football and the competitive juices that go 628 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: with that. But right now, you know, he's not looking 629 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: for some sort of lateral or even lesser job like 630 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 3: he valued coaching. The Steelers is one of the very 631 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 3: best franchises in all of sports, So it's not like, hey, 632 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: I got to get out and get somewhere else, and 633 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: so he indicated that to the team. But he's sort 634 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: of slightly left the door open to potentially coach down 635 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: the road, but it's not on the radar right now. 636 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: Jeremy Filer from ESPN with us right now, what does 637 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: this do to the coaching searches league wide? I would 638 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: imagine there are teams who are in need of a 639 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: head coach who are thinking, we better get our guy quick, 640 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: because there's a pretty attractive position now open. 641 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it is attractive. There's no doubt. I'll say 642 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: that with a caveat now the Steelers, it's a job 643 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: that people will line up for you in part because 644 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: of the tremendous tenure in patients that you will be 645 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: afforded with. You know, obviously the famous line about three 646 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: head coaches since nineteen sixty nine. So at the very least, 647 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: you're going to get a very patient ownership, very thoughtful 648 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: that's going to help you ride the ups and downs. 649 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: That said, it's a team that has some holes, as 650 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: you know, particularly a quarterback hasn't had a stable quarterback 651 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: option for like seven years or whatever it is, since 652 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 3: since Ben's last year's big then, and so you're you know, 653 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: it's a team that has a very old defense. Now, 654 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: I was told my Tomins decision was not personnel driven, 655 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: and I believe that, but subconsciously, like if he had 656 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: the horses to win a Super Bowl, wud he stay 657 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: another year? I can't answer that for him, But that's 658 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: a question I'm asking. So it's not the easiest job. 659 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: It's the resources there are not top shelf, if you 660 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: would ask the NFL Players Association, because they do his 661 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: rankings every year. I would put the Steelers in line 662 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: with like the Chiefs and some of these other teams that, 663 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: you know, they're not going out of the way to 664 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: modernize the facility and have thirty staff members on the 665 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: coaching staff like some teams are doing twenty five thirty members. 666 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: There's still a little old school in their ways now 667 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: that has proven to be effective, but it's different, you know, 668 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: Like I don't expect them to go spend in an 669 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: exorbitant amount of money on a new coach, you know, 670 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: I think it could be an up and comer situation 671 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: where you get somebody young and assertive and you build 672 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: with them. 673 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 8: Who's the Chuck Mall, Bill Kawer, Mike Tomlin thirty something 674 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 8: defensive coordinator that everybody's gaga about. 675 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: Man, Mike, I'm trying to find that now. I mean, 676 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: it's been it's a weird tool this year. If there's 677 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: not a Golden Goose, there's not a Ben Johnson. You know, 678 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: there's some there's some younger up and coming options that 679 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: are intriguing. 680 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: You know. 681 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: Chris Hrula comes to mind from the Rams defensive coordinator 682 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: Jeff Hapley with the Packers you know, has a way 683 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: about him. He's been a head coach of Boston College, 684 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: and I think they'll interview well, you know, Jesse Mentor 685 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: is kind of the hot name right now, the Chargers 686 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. But you know they're all unknown commodities. They're 687 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: gonna have to perform well in interviews, and right now, 688 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: you know, the only interviews that have really taken place 689 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: with those most of those virtual ones that are kind 690 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: of cursory and you're just getting to know the other team. 691 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: Where you make your head in the second interviews, can 692 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: you really impress and what you're gonna do with the 693 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: roster and have a plan for the quarterback and so 694 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: a lot of that has to take place this year 695 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: more than ever. The interviewers are really gonna matter. You know, 696 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: you have some really interesting up and coming offensive coaches, 697 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: the guys that don't have a lot of experience, like 698 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: Nate Shieldhouse and with the Rams passing coordinator, Broncos quarterbacks 699 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: coach Davis Webb, Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator, Grant your Dinsky. 700 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: Young guys that are coming up, but are you know, 701 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: if you want to get ahead of it and say, hey, 702 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: here's a guy like McVeigh, or you think he's going 703 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: to be really good two to three years down the road, 704 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: you would get ahead of it and just hire him now. 705 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: Even though they're experienced, there will be some options like that. 706 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: And there are now nine jobs, so if one of 707 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: those guys got a job, it wouldn't shock me. 708 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 5: Jeremy followed from ESPN. 709 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: Last thing for you, Jeremy, and this may be impossible 710 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 4: for you to know at this point, but is there 711 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: any idea of how this search will play out for 712 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: the Steelers? 713 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 5: Is there a committee? 714 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: Is it just Art who will he put together as 715 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: a brain trust for this or will it be for 716 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: him a solo effort. 717 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: You know, these are pretty thorough complex situations now, these 718 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: interview processes, because you look at Tennessee, they're interviewing like 719 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: eighteen people just for their first round. You have to 720 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: be well organized. It's hard for one person to do so. 721 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 3: I would be surprised if Team President Rooney just went 722 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: into this alone without me help. I do expect Omar 723 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: to be involved. Andy White all the assistant GM helped 724 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: with Philly search when they landed Nick Sirianni, so he 725 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: understands the rhythm of these I expect him to be 726 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: involved as well. And then whether there's outside council or not, 727 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but that's something that some teams tap into. 728 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons did that recently, hiring it like a 729 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: search firm for both their GM and their head coaching search. 730 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 4: Jeremy Fowler from ESPN. Jeremy, thanks as always for your 731 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: time this morning. We greatly appreciate it. 732 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: Hey, you guys. Great to hear from you. 733 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 7: Yeah. 734 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 4: Man, always good to catch up with you again. Jeremy Fowler, 735 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: our old buddy. We just talked to him all the 736 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: time back in the day when he was the Steelers 737 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: beat guy. 738 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 8: Now he's on the national front there for ESPN. I've 739 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 8: got to ask him one question. If Tomlin ends up 740 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 8: doing color analysis, Uh huh? Do you think he'll start 741 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 8: talking about a play in the first quarter and still 742 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 8: be talking about the same play in the second? 743 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 4: He is long winded, He hung up, right, he can't 744 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: answer that. We lost him, so yeah, sorry, we didn't 745 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: make time for that one. I wonder how he's going 746 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: to do with that. You're right, the brevity is going 747 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 4: to be an issue. 748 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 5: No, But I'm kidding. 749 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 8: He's smart enough he'll figure it out, but he did 750 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 8: like to ramble on at those press conferences. 751 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 4: All right, well, we'll go over some of our favorite 752 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 4: tomlinisms and good news for people who watch the news. 753 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 5: Abby. Oh yeah, I like to drink while I watched 754 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 5: the news. But now the anchor could be drinking too. 755 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: That'll help Max Starks, Mark Madden, and more. As we 756 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: recount Mike Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of 757 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steel it's hard to even say that. I like, 758 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm really having a tough time with the change here. 759 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 5: You'll get over true, Pittsburgh. No, I know, I'll get 760 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: over it, but it's shocking. I think it's good for everybody. 761 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 5: I do. I think the change is good. We'll see, 762 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 5: said the zen Master. Yeah. 763 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 6: I like to hear. 764 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 5: The Doobie Brothers. 765 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: Social phone or the talkback button on the iHeartRadio app 766 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: is how you reach us with your requests. 767 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 5: You build the menu in Fair Rocket. 768 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: Weekdays at noon on the DVE Electric Lunch. 769 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: I'm Jamie Bortis.