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Speaker 7: That's that's right, Lucky.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great. Tag him and trade him and get something

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Speaker 2: for him. Tag him and trade him and get something

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Speaker 2: that can help you win this year for him. Tag

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Speaker 2: him and trade him and let all those Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: suitors come to you. Sounds amazingly simple, But when you

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Speaker 2: dive into all the complexities, you understand that it's not

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Speaker 2: Do you trust the Bengals to do things that aren't

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Speaker 2: easy right now? I don't know how you do. You're

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Speaker 2: giving them a benefit of the doubt that most of

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Speaker 2: us are not willing to give them. If they could

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Speaker 2: pull it off, it'd be awesome. Do we really expect

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Speaker 2: him to?

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Speaker 4: Probably not?

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Speaker 2: Twenty away from four o'clock, all right, Xavier's on the

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Speaker 2: road tonight against Providence. There's conjecture about Richard Patino coaching

447
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Speaker 2: Providence next year, and NKU plays on the road to

448
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Speaker 2: night against Cleveland State. Rick Boring says he's in a

449
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Speaker 2: dark hotel room in Cleveland. I don't know why he

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Speaker 2: has to be in a dark hotel room. We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: And talking about both those teams when we come back

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: night of college basketball tonight. Xavier's playing a game that

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be played last night against Providence, and

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Speaker 2: NKU is getting set to take on Cleveland State. You

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Speaker 2: can hear Norse Hoops on Fox Sports thirteen sixteen tonight

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Speaker 2: at seven o'clock with Jim Kelch and Rick Brewing. Rick

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Speaker 2: covers Xavior for Musketeer Report dot Com and he calls

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Speaker 2: NKU games, so he's gonna be a very busy man tonight.

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Speaker 2: He tells us he's sitting in a dark hotel room

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Speaker 2: in Cleveland. Why Why are the Norse staying in a

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Speaker 2: hotel that has no lights in the rooms?

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Speaker 11: So that's what's wrong with you? Why do you have

477
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Speaker 11: to be like.

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Speaker 12: This a lot of man, Yeah, I mean it's it

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Speaker 12: was that was a conversation about whether or not we

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Speaker 12: were going to stream this this conversation over the internet

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Speaker 12: in like a zoom format. So I was like, I

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Speaker 12: don't know, you know, if there's the proper lighting in

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Speaker 12: this hotel.

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Speaker 4: Room for that?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha?

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Speaker 12: Okay, there are there are lots, there are working lights

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Speaker 12: in the Cleveland Marriott.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's it's Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Hell.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, far be it from me. I

491
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Speaker 2: just it was brought up to me that you're sitting

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Speaker 2: in a dark hotel room. Either the lights are off

493
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Speaker 2: and that's weird, or there are no lights and that's

494
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Speaker 2: weird too.

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Speaker 11: It's a gray and dark city.

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Speaker 4: I will give you that all right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you're not the first guest to answer

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Speaker 2: my first question by asking what's wrong with me? Either,

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Speaker 2: So just f y, I should Xavier beat Providence tonight?

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Speaker 11: I don't know about should.

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Speaker 12: In fact, the predictive metrics would tell you Providence is

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Speaker 12: the favorite to win that game. But I would say

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Speaker 12: is the first time around it looked like a pretty

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Speaker 12: good matchup for Xavier. You know, they were able to

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Speaker 12: it's the two fastest playing teams in the conference, so

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Speaker 12: it allowed Zavier to get out in transition and play

507
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Speaker 12: fast the way they like to play on the offensive end,

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Speaker 12: and they were hitting the threes, which Providence gives up.

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Speaker 12: But they were also able to get the ball inside

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Speaker 12: more often than they typically do and score in the paint,

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Speaker 12: and that's an issue Providence has too. They're just not

512
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Speaker 12: a very good defensive team and they continue to struggle

513
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Speaker 12: in that way since the first meeting between these two teams.

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Speaker 12: So it seems like it's a good matchup for Xavier.

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Speaker 12: But the first game against Butler looked like a really

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Speaker 12: good matchup for Xavier at the Cinta Center, and then

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Speaker 12: I thinkle Fieldhouse it didn't go their wayfl way behind

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Speaker 12: and had to call it the way.

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Speaker 11: Back and didn't win. So we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 12: They don't have a large margin for air in any

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Speaker 12: game in Big East play, but I do think it

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Speaker 12: sets up well for them to be competitive.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Is Richard Patino going to coach Providence next year?

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Speaker 11: And I don't think so. No.

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Speaker 12: Now, I do think it's easy for people to just

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Speaker 12: push this off and yell at Jeff Goodman because no

528
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Speaker 12: one likes Jeff Goodman anymore. And all of that, I

529
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Speaker 12: do believe he's hearing something. Some of it may be

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Speaker 12: based on outdated info, But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 12: I think what ultimately stands out to me about the

532
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Speaker 12: situation is Xavier pretty much controls it. Richard Patino has

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Speaker 12: a pretty big buyout after only being here for one season,

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Speaker 12: and I mean, I don't think Providence is going to

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Speaker 12: afford to pay a full buyout for him, also pay

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Speaker 12: Kim English's buyout to go away and pay your new

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Speaker 12: coach's salary and Richard Patino and.

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Speaker 11: Give him an il money. I mean, that's just a

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Speaker 11: crazy way to go up about business.

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Speaker 12: And and by the way, you know, like Xavier, Well,

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Speaker 12: I think Xavier is excited about Richard Patino, and I

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Speaker 12: think we've talked about on the show how he's done

543
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Speaker 12: a good job. Xavier is going to finish under five

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Speaker 12: hundred this year, and they play in the same conference

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Speaker 12: as Providence. So I don't know that that's the easiest

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Speaker 12: sell in the world to say, like, hey, we've got

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Speaker 12: to spend like thirty million dollars to turn this thing

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Speaker 12: around this year with a guy who just went under.

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Speaker 11: Five hundred in the conference.

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Speaker 12: I just I think it was always a non starter

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Speaker 12: because of his biout.

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Speaker 2: And Xavier understanding Richard Patino's ties to Providence. Is Providence

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Speaker 2: a step up from Xavier.

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Speaker 12: I don't know that it's a step up, but I

555
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Speaker 12: will say, like this past season, they spent more money

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Speaker 12: in NIL and it is his alma mater, so I

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Speaker 12: think he would be willing to listen to them potentially

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Speaker 12: if the circumstances were different, or if Xavier wasn't upping

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Speaker 12: their NIL significantly going forward, which everything I've heard they

560
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Speaker 12: they intend to do. They intend to take a significant

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Speaker 12: jump that'll be almost double what they spent last year

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Speaker 12: in this year's upcoming transfer portal, So those are you know,

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Speaker 12: if those circumstances were different, maybe he would be more

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Speaker 12: interested in looking for his first way out of town.

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Speaker 12: But based on what I've heard to this point, I

566
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Speaker 12: think both parties, Richard Prishino and Xavier are excited about

567
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Speaker 12: what's ahead this coming spring and going into next year,

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Speaker 12: and they're excited about their future together. I just can't

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Speaker 12: imagine under any circumstances they're looking to move on after

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Speaker 12: one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was. It was eyebrow raising and interesting

572
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Speaker 2: to talk about for sure. Rick Boring Musketeer Report dot

573
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Speaker 2: Com has the call tonight NKU against against Cleveland State.

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Speaker 2: The Norse are nine and nine and in conference play,

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Speaker 2: and I think everybody was feeling really good after the

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Speaker 2: three consecutive wins, the victory over Purdue for Wayne, and

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Speaker 2: then things could not have gone worse offensively for the

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Speaker 2: Norse against Youngstown State. What happened?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately for this group MO we've we've

580
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Speaker 12: talked about the inconsistency sometimes and their best players don't

581
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Speaker 12: always seem to show up and play the same way

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Speaker 12: as they're capable of playing. I mean, they have these

583
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Speaker 12: these nights where they scored twenty five to thirty points and.

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Speaker 11: Then these other nights where you know, they're inconsistent.

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Speaker 12: And maybe that's why they ended up in the Horizon

586
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Speaker 12: League instead of the Big East or a higher level potentially.

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Speaker 12: But that's what really got to them in the Youngstown

588
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Speaker 12: State game. They just started that game and couldn't score

589
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Speaker 12: at all, even when they got good looks. They missed layoups,

590
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Speaker 12: they missed wide open threes. They ended the first half

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Speaker 12: with just fifteen points. I mean, when when you hold

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Speaker 12: the opposing team to thirty five points in the first

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Speaker 12: half and you're down by twenty, that's that's I mean,

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Speaker 12: that's just something went majorly wrong. And you know, they

595
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Speaker 12: fought their way back, they made it competitive, they had

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Speaker 12: multiple chances down the stretch to get back in and

597
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Speaker 12: tie that game, and and just couldn't get over the

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Speaker 12: hump late, which is understandable when you have a twenty

599
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Speaker 12: point deficit at halftime. But yeah, I mean, now you're

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Speaker 12: looking at likely going on the road in the postseason

601
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Speaker 12: for the first round, and it's really like you're playing

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Speaker 12: for who's going to be your matchup at this point,

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Speaker 12: and I think, in my opinion, you'd rather not travel

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Speaker 12: to Green Bay.

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Speaker 11: Would that be what I'd be rooting against.

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Speaker 12: But I'm not sure with this year, the way that

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Speaker 12: the Horizon League has played out and the way it's

608
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Speaker 12: been so competitive and the standings have been so jumbled up,

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Speaker 12: I'm not sure that there's a huge difference between most

610
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Speaker 12: of these teams in the middle of the league.

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Speaker 2: The bracket for the Horizon League tournament looks like the

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Speaker 2: family tree of somebody who has a lot of illegitimate kids.

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Speaker 2: When they came up with that format, what substances were

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Speaker 2: being consumed.

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Speaker 12: I've been told to not say as much about the

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Speaker 12: league office and the Horizon League Tournament and where it's held,

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Speaker 12: so I'll just tell you I don't know how they

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Speaker 12: came up with that idea, but I do think it's

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Speaker 12: going to be interesting to see what happens, like the

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Speaker 12: four to five if that's who ends up in that

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Speaker 12: playing game on Sunday night for the right to play

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Speaker 12: the one seed. The one seed will have been waiting

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Speaker 12: since the previous Wednesday. Yeah, so it will be off

624
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Speaker 12: for almost a week to play and that four or

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Speaker 12: five game. Like, again, I don't think there's a ton

626
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Speaker 12: of separation or anyone in the conference this year. So

627
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Speaker 12: that four or five team coming off a Sunday night

628
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Speaker 12: win going into the semi finals there, I think they've

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Speaker 12: got a little bit of momentum and a little bit

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Speaker 12: of an advantage on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: I remember being in the fourth grade and we had

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Speaker 2: a teacher who showed us what a tournament bracket was,

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Speaker 2: and it occurred to me many many, many, many, many

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Speaker 2: many many years later. This guy was like like running

635
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Speaker 2: the schools, like NCAA, tournament office pool. This would have

636
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Speaker 2: been nineteen eighty seven. Key Smart beat Syracuse for Indiana

637
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Speaker 2: wins Bob Night his last national championship. If the bracket

638
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Speaker 2: for the Horizon League Tournament this year would have been

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Speaker 2: what the teacher showed me, I think I would have

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Speaker 2: lost total interest in all sports.

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Speaker 11: That's fair.

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Speaker 12: The funny thing is when you started that story, I

643
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Speaker 12: thought you were going to say that your teacher had

644
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Speaker 12: a bunch of illegitimate kids.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he may have, you know, for the lack of it,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We never got that deep, but it

647
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Speaker 2: does it. I'm still not even sure I understand who

648
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Speaker 2: plays when, and we haven't even seen the teams yet,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure you'll off for a measure of clarity

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Speaker 2: when we talk next week. Thank you as always.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, tune into the pregame show. Me and Jim Kelt

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Speaker 11: will try to break it all down for you.

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Speaker 2: What you should do is add like a segment to

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Speaker 2: your postgame show and like just add a segment where

655
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Speaker 2: you kind of see the teams based on where they

656
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Speaker 2: are in the standings at that moment, and then sort

657
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Speaker 2: of unfold some of the scenarios in your postgame show.

658
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Speaker 2: Just maybe run that past gym for me.

659
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Speaker 11: Okay, we're going to get home at about three am

660
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Speaker 11: as it is.

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Speaker 12: I don't think we need to extend the postgame show

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Speaker 12: any longer than we already have it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Well just an idea. Just throw

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Speaker 2: it at gym and see what he says. Thank you

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Speaker 2: as always.

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Speaker 11: All right, thanks mom.

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Speaker 2: That's uh. Seriously, go to Horizon League dot org and

668
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Speaker 2: look at it's the Barbersol free plug for the shaving cream.

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Speaker 2: The Barbasol Horizon League Tournament. The ten and eleven seed

670
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Speaker 2: play against each other in the playing game, and then

671
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Speaker 2: they advanced to the first round, where they would play

672
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Speaker 2: the the one seed. Then there's all the one, two, three, four.

673
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: There's five games on campus sites. The second round only

674
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Speaker 2: includes one game. It's the second worst first round winner

675
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Speaker 2: against the worst first round winner those two teams. The

676
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Speaker 2: winner of that game advances to play the best first

677
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Speaker 2: round winner. The other semi final would be the second

678
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Speaker 2: best first round winner and the third best first round

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Speaker 2: It's confusing, Like I get, we have like odd number

680
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Speaker 2: of teams in the league. This shouldn't be that hard

681
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Speaker 2: to figure out. Horizon League making things more complex than

682
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Speaker 2: they need to It's like if you put the Cincinnati

683
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Speaker 2: Bengals in charge of a conference tournament, this is what

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Speaker 2: it would look like. Five point three seven, four nine,

685
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. By the way I've gone on Facebook, it

686
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Speaker 2: is confirmed. That's that's my It's my girl from the

687
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Speaker 2: seventh grade was just on the Kelly Clarkson Show. I

688
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Speaker 2: just went to her Facebook to tell her the story,

689
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Speaker 2: and then I'm like, you know, does she care? Woman

690
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Speaker 2: hasn't talked to me in like thirty five years. She

691
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Speaker 2: needs to be bothered. I met probably like most people,

692
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Speaker 2: probably not. You know who's at the Combine is Paul

693
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Speaker 2: Danner Junior, covering the Bengals for the Athletic and obviously

694
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Speaker 2: the Growler podcast. He is going to join us at

695
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Speaker 2: four h five. I was off yesterday and I was

696
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: hanging out in Lubbock and I'm consuming all of the

697
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Speaker 2: Combine content and it made me smile to see that

698
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Speaker 2: Jay Morrison was back on the beat covering the Bengals

699
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Speaker 2: for Bengals Talk dot Com. Jay obviously lost his wife

700
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Speaker 2: toward the very end of the football season, and as

701
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Speaker 2: you might understand, took some time to himself, and understandably

702
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Speaker 2: so was great to see Jay back on the beat,

703
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Speaker 2: and I know his peers in the Bengals beat would

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Speaker 2: concur it's coming up on four o'clock. This is ESPN

705
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. The Flag.

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Speaker 10: Football is exciting, free agency to the draft and everything

707
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Speaker 10: in between. We've got the Bengals off season covered on

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Speaker 10: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home.

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Speaker 9: Of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That's right, four minutes after four o'clock. This is ESBN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Im Oeger. We've had a lot. We've had

712
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Speaker 2: a lot happened so far. In the first hour of

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Speaker 2: the show. The NFL Combine is happening in Indianapolis. Paul

714
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Speaker 2: Danner Junior has been there covering the Combine and the Bengals,

715
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Speaker 2: Fortheathletic dot Com and obviously for the Growler podcast. He

716
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Speaker 2: is cranking out content. Typically Paul joins us in studio

717
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Speaker 2: on Tuesdays, but a he's been in Indie b. I

718
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Speaker 2: wasn't here yesterday, but we we needed a Paul fix,

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Speaker 2: and so uh here that might be what we call

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Speaker 2: the segment now, a Paul fix. I don't know. How's

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Speaker 2: the combine.

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Speaker 13: It's lovely, mo, It's it's a great time. I'm enjoying myself.

723
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Speaker 13: It's it's been a little cold, but the takes have

724
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Speaker 13: been hot. Was one very good? Who's had the hottest one?

725
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Speaker 13: What's been the hottest take so far?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 13: You know, the hottest take is probably our good friend

728
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Speaker 13: James or Pea shoved running back down my throat.

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Speaker 2: But that's all right, oh boy, And the draft is

730
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Speaker 2: still two months away. It's gonna be It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Did either of the Bengals coordinators today say anything interesting?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Actually I thought there was some interesting stuff. I feel

734
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Speaker 13: like we're starting to get a little bit clearer view

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Speaker 13: from Al Golden on what their approach is to free agency,

736
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Speaker 13: what they're looking for, and you can then decipher a

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Speaker 13: little bit more of who that would be and also

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Speaker 13: who they're building around, which there's been some questions around

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Speaker 13: some of these guys. Who do they view as strong

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Speaker 13: enough pieces to keep? And then there's a there's a

741
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Speaker 13: fun phrase, you like corporate synergist?

742
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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, of course I do.

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Speaker 13: Yes, So the phrase, the the corporate catchphrase this week

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Speaker 13: has been force multipliers.

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Speaker 4: Do you like force multipliers?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means? What's a force multiplier?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 13: Well, that's what I'm here for, MO to tell you

749
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Speaker 13: just that. So they're looking for players that can take

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Speaker 13: the guys that they do believe they can build around,

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Speaker 13: that are specifically made to help enhance what they do

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Speaker 13: because there's a recognition of you know, we've talked a

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Speaker 13: lot about them needing floor raisers, like guys that are

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Speaker 13: just going to be play a starting level NFL player.

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Speaker 13: You know, they just didn't have enough of those guys.

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Speaker 13: But they're looking for that and specific in ways that

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Speaker 13: can help their young players come along. And so that's

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Speaker 13: kind of the theme of pinpointing what that's going to

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Speaker 13: look at, what does that look like. You know, they've

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Speaker 13: really emphasized the need for guys with leadership. There was

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Speaker 13: an admission yesterday from Duke Tobin about being understanding that

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Speaker 13: guys are playing better a little bit older. So maybe

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Speaker 13: that opens up the idea of them ushering in a

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Speaker 13: couple slightly older free agents in the idea of adding

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Speaker 13: that leadership. The interesting part at linebacker, I know you're

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Speaker 13: invested in in the linebacker play is they talked al

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Speaker 13: Golden Talk today very specifically about the need for a

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Speaker 13: combo linebacker. So one of these guys that's gonna be

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Speaker 13: able to drop down and set the edge and rush

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Speaker 13: and be more of a blitzer as well, and and

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Speaker 13: mission that they should not have been asking Demetrius Knight

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Speaker 13: to do that last year with anybody that watched games

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Speaker 13: could tell you that that wasn't his strength that they

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Speaker 13: were sort of forced to But how that can make

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Speaker 13: Night better, Carter better, stop asking him to do things

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Speaker 13: that he shouldn't be doing and be able to blitz

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Speaker 13: more and get more pressure. So you can look at

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Speaker 13: the linebacker list and free agency and find guys that

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Speaker 13: have that kind of blitzing in their game, where Cayden Ellis,

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Speaker 13: Leo schanall that can that can set an edge a

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Speaker 13: little bit more and be more of a blitzer off

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Speaker 13: the edge. So those are some of the pieces they also,

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Speaker 13: you know what Moe love Jordan Battle. I mean, hiss

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Speaker 13: been over the top the amount of praise that we

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Speaker 13: have heard for Jordan Battle, for the steps that he

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Speaker 13: took last year, how he is as a communicator and

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Speaker 13: the leader. They are very much building around him and

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Speaker 13: trying to find his safety, specifically in free agency that

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Speaker 13: can play off of his skill set that they can

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Speaker 13: utilize as well, so bj Hill is another guy who

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Speaker 13: we came into this old process saying, hey, is bj

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Speaker 13: Hill even gonna be here? He's got this roster bonus

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Speaker 13: coming up the fifth day of the league year for

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Speaker 13: two million dollars. They could cut him and try to

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Speaker 13: go know the direction. No, there is a hey. He

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Speaker 13: was a warrior last year because he played through injury,

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Speaker 13: and he got surgery to clean that up his injury issues,

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Speaker 13: and we think he can get back and be a

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Speaker 13: part of what we want to build around. And so

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Speaker 13: that's they're looking for players in free agency that can

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Speaker 13: help augment a lot of those guys that they believe

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Speaker 13: are part of their future.

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Speaker 2: Should I be unsurprised that they love Jordan Battle?

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Speaker 4: I don't you be whatever you want to be. I'm

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Speaker 4: not here to tell you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's good for anybody, but ahead.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think so.

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Speaker 13: I do think he did grow into the role a

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Speaker 13: little bit the end of last year.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 13: Sometimes sometimes we get the over the top praise, and

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Speaker 13: I don't know if that's a tactic they're taking to

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Speaker 13: build him up. To see some press clippings about how

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Speaker 13: they're confident because he needs to build off confidence or

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Speaker 13: if it's truly a like, we really love this guy.

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Speaker 13: I think there's probably a middle ground in that that

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Speaker 13: he's a guy that needs to hear, that needs to

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Speaker 13: know that they believe in him and that they've loved

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Speaker 13: everything they saw in terms of the development last year.

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Speaker 13: It's hard to not get mad at safety play last

821
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Speaker 13: year because of what was happening next to him. But

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Speaker 13: I do think when you when you look at it,

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Speaker 13: there's he's he's a starting level safety right now, and

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Speaker 13: I think in this system, you can you can see

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Speaker 13: how you would want to be comfortable with him being

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Speaker 13: back there.

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Speaker 2: There are different levels of love. So let me just

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Speaker 2: run this imaginary scenario past you. Okay, So they they

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Speaker 2: love Jordan Battle, they they sign a starting caliber safety,

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Speaker 2: and free agency, they're on the clock in the draft

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Speaker 2: and Caleb Downs as there at ten. Is the explanation

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Speaker 2: for not taking him going to be, hey, we really

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Speaker 2: love Jordan Battle.

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Speaker 4: No Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 13: No, that would I don't think that would have any

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Speaker 13: impact on something like that. I think somebody like Caleb Downs,

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Speaker 13: they would just do what everybody has said you would

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Speaker 13: do with Caleb Downs and put him into the the

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Speaker 13: emon worry uh type of position and have fun and

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Speaker 13: and dal Golden talked about how you know, he says,

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Speaker 13: you know, I'm a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: I love toys. I would that toy.

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Speaker 13: It would be a great thing to have, and I

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Speaker 13: mean very embracing and you could see that being something

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Speaker 13: that they I don't think there would be any hesitation

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Speaker 13: at all taking kale downs if they already had battle

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Speaker 13: and a free agency.

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Speaker 2: Is force multiplier the sort of thing that people are

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Speaker 2: just gonna start saying again and again and again to

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Speaker 2: sound smart. Is this going to be part of our

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Speaker 2: our everyday football jargon or is this going to come

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Speaker 2: and go.

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Speaker 13: I'm hoping to properly make fun of it in my

854
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 13: story today, So I got you know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 13: pick up some of Mike, do you have Do you

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Speaker 13: have any favorite corporate jargon words because I'm trying to

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Speaker 13: drop them in intermittently throughout my story. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 13: I've got putting a pin in. Yeah, it's a big one.

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00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 13: Synergy is a big one. Ideation, ideation, let's ideation, let's

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Speaker 13: take this offline. Yeah, trying to kind of casually drop

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Speaker 13: those in there, just to kind of have some fun

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Speaker 13: with it, but no, I think the thing is as

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Speaker 13: much of its as its corporate mombo jumbo. If you

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Speaker 13: know what they're trying to do, it does make sense.

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Speaker 13: It's that they're not going to go out and a

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Speaker 13: make them make a big swing that brings in like

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Speaker 13: we talked Max Crossby, is not happening, and they're going

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Speaker 13: to try to build it up a little bit more

869
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Speaker 13: calculated in ways that can help understand that it's the

870
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 13: young guys on their roster are going to have to

871
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 13: be the ones that really raise the ceiling here, and

872
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 13: so they want to try to help those guys do

873
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 13: it with leadership, with players that have skill sets that

874
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 13: maybe we're missing around them last year, and maybe that

875
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 13: can help make everybody, you know, be much better.

876
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: Here's I think my current favorite one. When when corporations

877
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: blow people out and lay them off. Now it's referred

878
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: to as we go through an exercise. So when the

879
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: Bengals like cut players, now, I expect like, oh, it's

880
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: cut down day. They went through an exercise and let

881
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: go of these seventeen players, or if there's somebody that

882
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: is a cab casualty, the Bengals went through an exercise

883
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: Like we had a guy that worked here once who

884
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: was talking about, well we went through an exers and

885
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: I literally thought he was talking about like calisthetics. No,

886
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: he was talking about like laying people off. So that's

887
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: that's a big one in the corporate world nowadays. Paul

888
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: Danner Junior's with us from the Combine in Indianapolis. I

889
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: listened to Duke Tobin yesterday and I started to prepare

890
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: myself for the possibility that they don't get Dalton Riisen

891
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: or re signed. Should I am? I am?

892
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 15: I Am?

893
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: I getting ahead of myself a little bit? Or is

894
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: this the right thing to do?

895
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 13: I think you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit.

896
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 13: I think this is what it sounds like. Sound it

897
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 13: sounded like a team that's in negotiation and not surprisingly,

898
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 13: So I mean, this is if this follows the standard

899
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 13: path of an internal free agent that you want. It's

900
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 13: gonna be in the days leading up to the start

901
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 13: of free agency or maybe into it, and maybe they

902
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 13: say to him, go see what you think your market is.

903
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 13: But you know the line of the line of talking

904
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 13: about how he brings value to us. But we think

905
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 13: we bring value to him. We were the fit for him.

906
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 13: This kind of reminding everyone this is a guy that

907
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 13: wasn't exactly the greatest player until he got here, but

908
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 13: he did seem to be a match for us. If

909
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 13: he wants to go find his value, then he can

910
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 13: go do that. But I do think that they understand

911
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 13: there's value there. It feels like a lot of negotiation tactics,

912
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 13: and it didn't necessarily change my opinion on where they

913
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 13: stand with the idea of bringing him back. I think

914
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 13: they're just trying to figure what that number is.

915
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: They're not going to tag and trade Trey Henderson, right.

916
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: It didn't sound like it, you know.

917
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, Duke was talking about it as

918
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 13: we tried over and over again and multiple times to

919
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 13: get him to spill the beans a little bit more.

920
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 13: But his point was all trades are complicated and that

921
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 13: this one would be complicated, and this is something that

922
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 13: I've kind of been talking about. And does that mean

923
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 13: it does or doesn't happen. I mean, I think they're

924
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 13: here trying to figure that out and they're trying to

925
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 13: see if they can find a way to do that.

926
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 13: It's just dealing with his people finding a deal that

927
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 13: makes sense with the other teams and being able to

928
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 13: execute this for what you know it what certainly wasn't

929
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 13: a thing of like we see a lot of value

930
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 13: in that, which is something that could have been said.

931
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: I mean it wasn't. That wasn't what we were hearing.

932
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: That's for sure, all right, Paul Danner Jenner from the combine.

933
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: What happens now that the coordinators have spoken? What happens

934
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the week. That's interesting?

935
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: Nothing?

936
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: Oh really great?

937
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 13: No, No, I mean the players. I will talk to

938
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 13: you Darren Simmons as well tomorrow.

939
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 4: The players have.

940
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 13: Started coming through now into that portion, you know, go

941
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 13: down there and Reuben Bain was down there. No one

942
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 13: yelled at him to extend his arms and show us

943
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 13: how short his arms were.

944
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: Thank uh yeah, No, it wasn't like that.

945
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 13: But you know, it's you get that the players are

946
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 13: starting to come through and the medicals are coming out,

947
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 13: and I'm sure there'll be news from that, and obviously

948
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 13: everyone's gonna want to judge on how players will be

949
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 13: good at the game of football because they ran fast

950
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 13: for forty yards.

951
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: So we'll do that for a little while.

952
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 13: But I mean, this is kind of most of where

953
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 13: the news comes out and the rest will just be

954
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 13: part of tinkering with with draft boards.

955
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 4: I am you know there's there's certainly players though that.

956
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 13: Could Shamar Stewart this thing if you will and have

957
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 13: a big, big combined in re mind everybody of the

958
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 13: kind of athletes they are and workway off draft boards.

959
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll be uh, we'll be paying attention all week

960
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: and uh we'll see you next week. Man, thank you

961
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: as always awesome.

962
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 4: Appreciate him.

963
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: That's our guy, Paul Danner, Junior. He is in Indianapolis

964
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: covering the Bengals at the Combine Forthathletic dot Com as

965
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: well as the Growler Podcast. Ten minutes after four o'clock

966
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty is our

967
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: phone number. We'll do sports and the law with our

968
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: guy from the Manila Law Group, Attorney Stewart W. Penrose,

969
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: on a whole bunch of different topics, including a former

970
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Bearcat getting sued perhaps on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

971
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 8: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from the.

972
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Speaker 5: UC Health Traffic Center at UC Health. They never missed

973
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Speaker 5: a beat. Your heart shouldn't either. If you have signs

974
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Speaker 5: of cardiac rhythm disorder. Don't wait to be seen schedule

975
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Speaker 5: online at UCHealth dot com. Southbound seventy one. An accident

976
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977
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Speaker 5: an earlier accident Westwood Avenue at Quebec Road on westbound

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Speaker 5: two seventy five. However, a new accident in at Levenon

979
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Speaker 5: Road and Columbia Road. Reports of a crash near Erwin

980
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Speaker 5: Simpson Road. I'm at Ezelic with traffic.

981
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: This report is after four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

982
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: Mullegar Reds are playing the White Sox and Lee Chicago

983
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: by a score of three to one. JJ Bliday with

984
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: a homer his first of the spring two run shot.

985
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: Sal Stewart has gone yard two scoreless sittings for Nicolodolo.

986
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: Reds are playing the White Sox in Glendale, Arizona, today

987
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: and lead that ball game by a score of three

988
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: to one. Key Brian Hayes Bladet, Stuart Nathaniel Lowe, Blake

989
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Dunn among the key players who are in action today.

990
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: Edwin Arroyo, after his ninth inning heroics yesterday, is in

991
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: the lineup as well. We will excuse me keep you

992
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: up to date on what's happening in that ever so

993
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 2: important exhibition baseball game in Arizona. Good sports night tonight,

994
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 2: lots of college basketball, don't forget Tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty,

995
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: we have FC Cincinnati Soccers, the Orange and Blue takes

996
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: on O and MFC and the Conka CAAFF champions Cup

997
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: at the Soccer venue in the West End of Cincinnati.

998
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: No pregame show because of the Mark Pope Show. So

999
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: coverage will start like right when the game's about to

1000
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: begin at seven pm with Tommy g and I believe

1001
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: Kevin McClosky. So there you go. Your night is set.

1002
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Let's see here Bob and Bowling Green. You're on ESPN

1003
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Bob, good afternoon. How are you?

1004
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 15: Oh, how are you?

1005
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 6: I'm doing doing fine.

1006
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 2: Man, I'm I'm doing extraordinarily well this afternoon. Bob. What's

1007
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: on your mind?

1008
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 6: Well?

1009
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 15: I was calling to report a little dust up that

1010
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 15: happened at spring craning for my Saint Louis Cardinals today.

1011
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me about it.

1012
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 15: Well, apparently the guys were taken batting practice and they

1013
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 15: recently signed Ramon Uria.

1014
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Bob, But can you do me a quick favor. Whatever

1015
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: is on behind you, can you turn that down? Yeah,

1016
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: thank you, sorry, thank you, it's okay.

1017
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, anyway, ramon Eureus and apparently what happened, uh,

1018
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 15: Dick Fits went up and in on Uranus and he

1019
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 15: didn't like it.

1020
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: I can understand why.

1021
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, And I guess the guys, you know, got everybody

1022
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 15: calm down and things, so it didn't turn out to

1023
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 15: be a major, major fight. But you know, that could

1024
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 15: have been. It could have really worked out bad.

1025
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: It sounds like it could have been really bad for both. Yeah, no,

1026
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: no question about it, especially this early in the Cactus

1027
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: League when everybody's still kind of tight.

1028
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 15: Yeah exactly. And and luckily they're not in the Cactus League.

1029
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: That's right, They're they're in Arizona, that's right. Yeah, yeah,

1030
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: well take advantage of that humid weather as opposed to

1031
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: the Cactus League. They're in Arizona where it's it's it's

1032
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: more dry.

1033
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 15: Yeah, and and cactus could really cause a major problem.

1034
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: No question you think about even imagine, yes, lots of them. Yeah.

1035
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 15: Anyway, anyway, I just wanted to report that.

1036
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm glad you did.

1037
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 15: It's good talking to you.

1038
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: As always, Bob, were you excited about the US hockey

1039
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: men and women winn the gold medal?

1040
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 15: Well, you know what I gotta, I gotta be honest

1041
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 15: with you. Yea, my guy was in gold for Canada.

1042
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, help me enjoys his silver medal.

1043
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was okay. But you know, here's the weird

1044
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 15: part about that. Jordan Bennington, of course, in the NHL

1045
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 15: place for Saint Louis and uh and and the guy

1046
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 15: with the US actually plays for Winnipeg. So even though

1047
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 15: you know they're playing for different countries there or in

1048
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 15: the ni tler're on different teams in different countries. Yeah,

1049
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 15: surprisingly enough, they're You know, you can figure out what

1050
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 15: I'm saying.

1051
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: I can totally catch your drift, both with regard to

1052
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: the story you told earlier and your analysis of the hockey.

1053
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: Bob.

1054
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 2: It's always nice to hear from you. Thanks very much,

1055
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: all right, boll see you What do we we do

1056
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 2: in twenty seven after four o'clock? Welcome back, Welcome back,

1057
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I watched the gold medal hockey game on

1058
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. By the way, I like morning sporting events.

1059
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: I like a bloody mary and sports. First thing, when

1060
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 2: you roll out of bed. Right. It's why I love

1061
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: breakfast at Wimbledon and the French Open and the Olympics

1062
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: when they're in that part of the world. So the

1063
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: eight o'clock start I liked. I watched the last two

1064
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: periods of the game at Oakley Greens, which had to

1065
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: liquid sports card show on Sunday morning, and I wanted

1066
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: to check that out. And so the United States wins,

1067
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: and we all know what happened, and I thought to myself,

1068
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: this is awesome, and this is this is great for

1069
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: hockey fans in the United States. This is this is

1070
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: great for hockey in the United States. And this is

1071
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: one of those unifying moments that I'm sure for about

1072
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 2: ninety minutes everyone will rally behind and then we will

1073
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: manufacture reasons to make it political. And so I said

1074
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: to myself self, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

1075
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: hang out at Oakley Greens and I'm not gonna look

1076
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: at my phone, and I'm just gonna enjoy the fact

1077
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: that the United States won. And then I'm gonna I'm

1078
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: gonna get in my I'm gonna go I'm gonna go home,

1079
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna like, listen, to well, I listened to

1080
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Ken Brew and I'm not really gonna consume any content

1081
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: related to the hockey game. And then I'm gonna go

1082
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: home and I'm gonna like do stuff with my family

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00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: and hang out, watch some college hoops, and I'm going

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: to tune out everything because I'm sure in the interim,

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00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna find things to get mad at

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00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: each other about, because that's that's what we do. That's

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00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: that's and by the way, there's a lot of money

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: in pitting Americans against each other. And so when I

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00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: tuned back in, of course on Sunday night and kind

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 2: of like jumped back from being off the grid, yes,

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: by then we weren't celebrating the fact that the United

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00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: States won gold medals in both hockey competitions. We were

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: using their the two teams respective triumphs to get mad

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Speaker 2: at each other. And so it followed a predictable pattern.

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, for about seven hours

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00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday, I was blissfully ignorant of all of that

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00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: and just simply enjoying the fact that I watched a

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: great sporting event and I got the outcome that I desired,

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: and it was cool. As hell now and it's immediate aftermath.

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Speaker 2: It's been pure misery, just watching people get mad at

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00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: other people for reasons that they're really not that mad about.

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: But we have to have that like that, just that

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00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: that dose. It's crack. Got to be mad at something,

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00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: got to be mad at somebody about something I needed.

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: And oh, here's this hockey thing. Let's come up with

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: reasons to be mad at other people and take this awesome,

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: beautiful moment and uh and just use it for reasons

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00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: to behave in the ugliest possible manner. And God knows

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00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: we've done that. We have perfected that in this country

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00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: more than we will ever perfect anything on on on

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: the ice. I just I don't know where people get

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: the energy to just constantly churn out things to be

1113
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: mad about all the damn. I don't I don't know.

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00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where people get the energy. I knew

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: it was gonna happen, I said to the said to

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: the bartender, I'm like, this is really awesome. People are

1117
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 2: having fun. At about ninety minutes. There's gonna be something

1118
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: worth getting mad about for these folks. Maybe not those folks,

1119
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen. And it did. The unending just

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: passion for being mad about stuff that you're really not

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00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: that mad about is unendingly impressive. Attorneys Door W. Penrose

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Speaker 2: on a few different sports legal stories.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports State, We're gonna get to us sports headlines

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger, Thank you for listening today. More

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls are coming up, and we'll go

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: back to the combine and talk with our friend Lindsey

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01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: Roads from sumersports dot Com. Typically on this show on Tuesdays,

1140
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: we talk about sports and the law, sports and legal

1141
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: matters with attorney Stuart W. Penrose from the Manila Law Group.

1142
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: You just heard a few seconds ago. I was not

1143
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: here yesterday, but I wanted to have our conversation, so

1144
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: I asked Stuart, can we carve out some time maybe

1145
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: on Wednesday instead of Tuesday? And he was, as one

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01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: might expect, extraordinarily accommodating. And so here we are. Stuart,

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01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: how are we doing?

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm doing good.

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 7: MO.

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 6: How about you?

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I have a feeling you and I

1152
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: are going to spend a lot of time talking about

1153
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball in their labor situation, which we've discussed already.

1154
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: The entire twenty twenty six season is going to occur

1155
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: against the backdrop of a workstoppage, a lockout in all

1156
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: likelihood that will happen once the current collective bargaining agreement

1157
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: with the players expires. This has been complicated because the

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Players Association has seen a shake up

1159
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: in leadership because of a scandal involving the guy that

1160
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: used to run the mlbp A, and so now there's

1161
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: been a leadership change. What could something like this mean

1162
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: for the the upcoming negotiations.

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 16: Well, Mo, it's it's a kind to changing your quarterback

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 16: before the Super Bowl. You know, Tony Park's been the

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 16: leader of the mlbp A for for a long time.

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01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 16: They know that the owners know who they're dealing with,

1167
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 16: for better or worse, kind of the devil, you know,

1168
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 16: versus the devil you don't in a way, so you

1169
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 16: know who who's representing each party as a big sty

1170
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 16: in setting the tone and you know how how you

1171
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 16: go about how aggressive you are, how cooperative you are.

1172
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 16: And right now it's it's a it's an unknown with

1173
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 16: the players Association. Who's going to run it and what

1174
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 16: kind of way is that new person going to run it?

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you're you're right. It's it's a good

1176
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: way of putting it. I guess I would wonder if

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: if the union's overall position as it relates to the

1178
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: biggest issue in the sport, which is so far the

1179
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: lack of a salarycap, like that's that's been such a

1180
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: hard line stance that I would wonder as silly as

1181
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: this may sound, Does it really matter who the head

1182
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: negotiator is if their stance has been unchanged for decades

1183
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: and is likely to unchange no matter what.

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01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 16: Well, I mean, they're only going to appoint somebody who

1185
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 16: they who they want, who they choose, So I'm certain

1186
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 16: they're going to point someone that's going to represent the interest.

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 4: That they want.

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01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 16: So no, I don't think it's going to change in

1189
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 16: that regard, but certainly the type of leadership that person

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01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 16: has and how dynamic they are, it can change. The tone,

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 16: can change how things are done and uh, and in

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 16: many ways what is done and how long it takes.

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 15: Uh.

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna be talking about this a ton as

1195
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: the season unfolds, because it feels like a lockout is

1196
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: almost unavoidable. Uh, can you tell me about this story

1197
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: involving not happen. Yeah, Well, here's here's a question though, right, Like, uh,

1198
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: you know they're they're going to talk once the lockout starts,

1199
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: for sure. I guess I would wonder, like, why why

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: can't the negotiations happen during the season. It feels like

1201
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: every time we have one of these, they really don't

1202
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: get the ball rolling on actual discussions about a new

1203
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: labor agreement until the current one expires.

1204
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 16: Sure, deadlines bring a lot of bring a lot of

1205
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 16: people to bring people to the table and create pressure

1206
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 16: to himmer something done. And sometimes people don't feel the

1207
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 16: need to back off of their positions until they see

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 16: until they see the new clear option about to unfold.

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 16: I think it's very natural in any type of negotiation.

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Speaker 2: I have a new rooting interest. I have a new

1211
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: rooting interest. I want to switch gears. I have a

1212
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: new rooting interest. I root against Patrick Mahomes. I wrote

1213
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: against the Kansas City Chiefs. I hate to root against

1214
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey because he played for the Bearcats. But I'm

1215
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: sort of like, I'm just it's how I'm wired now

1216
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: to root against. So they're being sued. They're being sued

1217
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: along with people they are in business with, over the

1218
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: name of a steakhouse they've opened in Kansas City fifteen

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: eighty seven, because I guess there's a sneaker brand fifteen

1220
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: eighty seven, and they're saying, look, we already had that

1221
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: four digit numbers our brand, so you can't use it

1222
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: for your steakhouse. How do we expect this to unfold?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, there's.

1224
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Speaker 16: There's layers of insurance to all of this. I mean,

1225
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 16: they are celebrity names that are put on the top,

1226
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 16: and you know it sounds sexy and you know, headline

1227
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 16: grabbing when you have Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes being sued.

1228
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 16: But you know, in all likelihood, you know they certainly

1229
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 16: aren't involved in the daily operations in such a business.

1230
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 16: You know, they rely on their partners and management teams

1231
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 16: and there's several layers of insurance that are ultimately going.

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Speaker 13: To cover this.

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Speaker 16: So you know, they are names that they're outage of

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01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 16: the lawsuits certainly, and they have to because they're owners,

1235
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 16: but they're unlikely the main players in this.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, this might be a stupid question. That's why

1237
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: I have you on because you're an expert, isn't it

1238
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: that Isn't it easy for one to make the distinction

1239
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: between a sneaker brand and a place where you can

1240
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: buy a stake.

1241
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 16: You would think you would think they're going to have

1242
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 16: their the plane if they have to prove their damages.

1243
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 16: Certainly a steakhouse and a sneakert brand are two very

1244
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 16: different things.

1245
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 15: Uh.

1246
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 16: But you saw with the with the Utah hockey team,

1247
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 16: you know, they wanted to go with the name YETI,

1248
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 16: and you know YETI coolers wouldn't wouldn't let him have it,

1249
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 16: and you know made ay uh, you know, made a

1250
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 16: big stick about their trademark. You know, probably a very

1251
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 16: misbranding opportunity, quite frankly, but you know you've seen things

1252
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 16: akin to that.

1253
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: Certainly, our legal expert from the Manila Law Group, attorney

1254
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: Stewart W. Penroses with us a day later than usual.

1255
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Speaker 2: One more so, there's this racial discrimination suit being brought

1256
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: on by some some African American coaches against the National

1257
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: Football League, and the coaches include Brian Flores, Steve Wilkson,

1258
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: Ray Horton. Uh, it's a it's a discrimination lawsuit. There

1259
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: was a ruling in federal court that this suit's going

1260
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: to proceed in an open court rather than a closed

1261
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: door arbitration. I guess for me, I wasn't I wasn't

1262
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: aware and this is my naive taste speaking here that's

1263
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: such a thing could be held in a closed door

1264
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: arbitration setting. I just naturally assumed this was going to

1265
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: be in an open court. How often do things like

1266
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: this get decided by arbiters?

1267
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 16: Quite often a lot of contracts and a lot of

1268
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 16: bargaining agreements have have arbitration clauses here, and it sounds

1269
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 16: like that's what the NFL was trying to you know,

1270
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 16: to try and to impose, hey, we've got an arbitration

1271
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 16: agreement and the and the court decided otherwise or that, uh,

1272
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 16: that that it wasn't holding water in this circumstance. But

1273
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 16: you know, being able to try this in public court

1274
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 16: versus arbitration is a huge win for the plaintiffs here.

1275
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 16: It gives them a lot more advantages by making things public.

1276
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 16: You know, arbitration bo is a private setting. Uh, there's

1277
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 16: limited discovery with it.

1278
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: You know, there's no jury.

1279
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 16: It's very hard to appeal, you know it Really it

1280
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 16: would really benefit the NFL, uh, you know, in a

1281
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 16: circumstance like this, whereas if you go to uh, you know,

1282
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 16: to public court. You know, first off, like a jury trial,

1283
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 16: public discovery is broad. You can get more evidence, you

1284
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 16: to take more depth positions. There's a lot more pressure

1285
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 16: that they could put.

1286
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: On the defense.

1287
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 13: You know, what comes out in discovery.

1288
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 16: You're gonna get owners' emails that come out, You're gonna

1289
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 16: get different communications, things that they might not want to

1290
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 16: see the light of day. That can now you know,

1291
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 16: come out because it's going to be in public court

1292
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 16: versus going to be you know, behind the screen of

1293
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,879
Speaker 16: an arbitration. So it's a big win for the plaintiffs.

1294
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it sounds like it, and you're right. Communication

1295
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: among owners, I would imagine there's a lot of folks

1296
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: working in the NFL or people who own teams who

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: don't want that stuff being brought to light. Awesome insight.

1298
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: As always, we will talk next week, my friend, Thanks

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: so much, Thank you though. That's our legal expert, attorney

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1307
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Speaker 2: one bottom of the sixth inning In, Glendale arizona in

1308
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: the pitchclock era spring training games fly. By have we

1309
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Speaker 2: had any have we had ANY abs. Challenges THE Abs

1310
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: challenge system is going to be, awesome non. Intrusive it's

1311
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: going to be, terrific and whatever kinks are being ironed

1312
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: out right, NOW i don't think we should worry about

1313
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: them being problematic once the season gets. Here remember it's

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. TWO i believe the first season of the,

1315
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 2: pitchclock maybe it was twenty twenty. THREE i remember in

1316
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: spring training a lot of, Folks, oh my, god this

1317
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,799
Speaker 2: is gonna be so. Bad we're gonna have games decided

1318
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: by the. Pitch now you don't even notice. It how

1319
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: many pitchclock violations did we even have last? Year ended

1320
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 2: up being not a big. Deal THE Abs challenge system

1321
01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: will not be a big.

1322
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 4: Deal some of the rules for.

1323
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: How it's going to be implemented and, used you, know

1324
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: we'll maybe be tweaked as the seasons, unfold but it's

1325
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: going to be a net gain For Major League. Baseball

1326
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 2: college basketball, Tonight xavier's At providence tip off at seven

1327
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: thirty on fifty FIVE Karc musketeers beat The friars in

1328
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: the first showdown between those two. TEAMS nku And Cleveland.

1329
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: State tonight In, cleveland seven o'clock tip On Fox sports thirteen.

1330
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: Sixty you can catch The Mark Pope radio show tonight

1331
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: at six ON espn fifteen. Thirty kentucky coming off a

1332
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: much needed victory on last night Against South carolina after

1333
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: getting screwed and they did and didn't play, great maybe

1334
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: didn't deserve to win the. Game they got a, real

1335
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: real raw deal from the. Officials Against auburn On, saturday

1336
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: that game was it felt like in the early portions

1337
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: of the second Half i'm talking TO Uk auburn not

1338
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 2: so much last, night Like kentucky was on the verge

1339
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: of putting the game, away and so you could argue

1340
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 2: they don't deserve to win because they didn't put a

1341
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: very Shaky auburn team away but got a tough. Whistle

1342
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: fccincinnati tonight Against OWN mfc and THE Concacaf Champions CUP

1343
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: a game starts at seven o'clock at The Soccer venue

1344
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: on The west end Of cincinnati and The Cyclone skate

1345
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,559
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1346
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1347
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: seven four nine fifteen thirty is our phone. Number we'll

1348
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: go back to The combine in the five o'clock, hour

1349
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: and some more college basketball as well ON espn fifteen

1350
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1351
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 9: Station CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen.

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Speaker 5: At Hennings Mill road on southbound seventy five construction Between

1358
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Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan highway and then or what lateral ten minute

1359
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 5: delay From Shepherd lane and eastbound two seventy five five

1360
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Speaker 5: minute delay From Dixie highway To Madison. Pike i'm at

1361
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Speaker 5: ezelic with traffic.

1362
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: Versary of it no longer being referred to as.

1363
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 17: The D l.

1364
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 16: Ten.

1365
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: TEN i think in twenty sixteen was the year THAT

1366
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 2: i got flipped to the injured. List it wasn't twenty,

1367
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: sixteen it was twenty, seventeen.

1368
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 4: The last TIME i GOT i worked.

1369
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: Here it's the Great Dave cuddah's. Voice let's see, here

1370
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: what do we? Have let's go, Ahead, Mike, mike you're

1371
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: ON espn fifteen. Thirty, mike what's? Up terren's? Good i'm?

1372
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: Good are you? Okay how's?

1373
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:48,520
Speaker 6: EVERYTHING i had a little adverse reaction to this. Medicine,

1374
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 6: WELL i was. Time That tony show kind of scared

1375
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 6: me a little. Bit but it's. Better how.

1376
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: That's all. Right we'll put the show on pause for.

1377
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 16: You go.

1378
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 6: AHEAD i know time is, MONEY i.

1379
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: Understand, Yeah, okay you're. Good all, right go, ahead The floria's. Yours,

1380
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: whatever whatever's on your, mind go ahead and spill your.

1381
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 6: Guts thank, You you're. Welcome you see the coopiest Team

1382
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 6: i've ever keep in my.

1383
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: Life can, You?

1384
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 2: Mike do you have? Me are you like like ten

1385
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: feet away from your? Phone we can barely hear.

1386
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 6: You, Well i'll tell you how messed UP i. AM i.

1387
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 6: WALKED i reached across the bed to a, napkin thinking

1388
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 6: it was my.

1389
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 2: Phone oh, okay, okay go, ahead now, now go ahead

1390
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: and tell us what's on your.

1391
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 6: Mind, Okay SO i think you see it's just the

1392
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 6: goopiest Team i've seen in a long. Time they JUST

1393
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 6: i cannot figure this team out, ever, ever, ever? Ever

1394
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 6: you got a?

1395
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: Quoe, WELL i think what made last night weird is

1396
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: they've defended at a pretty good level all season. Long

1397
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: so you're, thinking even against a really good team Like Texas,

1398
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: tech with a guy Like Christian, anderson who was a

1399
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: first Team All big twelve caliber, player maybe even, better you're,

1400
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: thinking if you make your first nine, shots you will

1401
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: have built a little bit of a. Cushion, Now Texas

1402
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: tech may come back and still win the, game but

1403
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: you feel, like if you're playing that well, offensively because

1404
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: of what you've done defensively for most of the, season

1405
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: you ought to be able to build a ten to,

1406
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: twelve fourteen point. Lead, instead they make their first nine

1407
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: shots and they're up by five eight minutes into the.

1408
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: Game and SO i think last night, specifically what made

1409
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: it frustrating is they operated at a high level, offensively

1410
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: which for the most, part they haven't all season some

1411
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: recent examples, Notwithstanding but they didn't. Defend and then as

1412
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: the game went, on when the offense started to, regress

1413
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: the rebounding wasn't there and the defense wasn't. There Texas

1414
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: tech shot fifty four percent and they grabbed nearly half

1415
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 2: of their. MISSES i think the problem FOR uc through

1416
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: it's been twenty eight. Games they've played really well. Recently

1417
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: if you look at the four game winning, streaking three

1418
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: of those games offensively they played at a really high.

1419
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: LEVEL i don't know, though that you have either a

1420
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: team that offensively has anything that game in and game

1421
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: out you can really count. On And i'm still not

1422
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: sure you have somebody who can slow down an opposing

1423
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: run by just going and getting you a. Bucket that's

1424
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: been my biggest complaint all season. Long you can go

1425
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: on runs against this team and they just don't have

1426
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 2: anybody who offensively is going to be good enough to

1427
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: get a bucket to stop them from stop the other

1428
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: team from going on a long. Run they don't have

1429
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: anybody who can create offense when the half court offense breaks.

1430
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: Down that was a problem back In. November it's a

1431
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: glaring weakness that has sunk the. Season in Late, february, WELL.

1432
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 6: I couldn't agree.

1433
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 18: More that's What i'm.

1434
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 6: Saying they're kind of a goofy. TEAM i. HAVE i

1435
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 6: get all excited about, them and then they lass night

1436
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 6: with the other team not having their best.

1437
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 7: Players so, yeah but.

1438
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: Like, again like losing the game last, Night, Okay Texas

1439
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: tech is Good Christian anderson's, Awesome like that's that's a

1440
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: hard game to. Win they were six and a half

1441
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: point underdogs for a. Reason the problem is needing to

1442
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: win the game last. Night just an, inch you inch

1443
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: you closer to the. Conversation like we've said this often

1444
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: in recent, years you can't have these games in Late

1445
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: february carry as much weight as they. Do you, know

1446
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: you want to play these games where if you lose

1447
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: a game on the road To Texas, tech it doesn't

1448
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: hurt you at. All it might hurt you in The

1449
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 2: big twelve, standings but it does nothing to affect your. Resume,

1450
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: unfortunately they're playing in tough games that in order to

1451
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: even have a chance to have a, chance they must.

1452
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: Win there's no shame in losing At Texas. Tech it's

1453
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: a problem when you lose To Eastern. Michigan, frankly they

1454
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: shouldn't have lost A. Xavier they should have beaten An,

1455
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay West virginia teams in a team in both games they.

1456
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 2: Played they should have closed out the game AGAINST ucf

1457
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: on the. Road if they win some combination of those,

1458
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: games then you look at last, night you shrug your

1459
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: shoulders and Go, okay opportunity, missed but not a huge. Deal,

1460
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: instead when you have twelve losses going into that game last,

1461
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 2: night it magnifies the loss and all of the factors

1462
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: that went into.

1463
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 6: It it's like you, say with The, ReBs can't we

1464
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 6: just get a season where The reds or The bearcats

1465
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 6: or somebody The bengals where you, know, well we're not you,

1466
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 6: know coming towards the end of the, season we're, going,

1467
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 6: well we're, In we're, good we're, good we don't have to.

1468
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 6: Worry did you say this all the time about The

1469
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 6: Reds and it's true about several of our local, teams

1470
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 6: and it just drives us all.

1471
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: Nough it feels like a familiar, story. Right we're doing

1472
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: this constantly with The, bengals where you're playing from. Behind

1473
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: you're playing from behind and trying to make up ground

1474
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: In november And. December The, REDS i, mean it was

1475
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: awesome that they did. It they had overcome a six

1476
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: game deficit in the last month of the season to

1477
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: barely eke into the. Playoffs this, year with The, bearcats

1478
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: you're you're having to win games that you're probably not gonna,

1479
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: win right the majority of the time you play, them,

1480
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: again just just to give yourself a chance to have a.

1481
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: Chance it's it's a Very you're, Right, mike it's a

1482
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: very familiar. Theme you're constantly playing catch. Up you're constantly

1483
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: trying to make up for earlier season losses or earlier season,

1484
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: missteps and it's it's no, way it's no way to,

1485
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: live it's no way to operate for a sports.

1486
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 6: Team, no it's been going on Since Kenyan Martin broke is,

1487
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 6: like you, know we just have the worst luck in

1488
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 6: a lot of cases. Too, Anyway i'll get off. That

1489
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 6: just to clarify things to everybody, Listening i'm sure they already. Know,

1490
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 6: yeah spring training has no bearing on the regular season.

1491
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 6: Whatsoever it's for. Development it's for uh old guys trying

1492
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 6: to refine certain uh characteristics, pictures trying to. Development it

1493
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 6: has no bearing whatsoever on regular season records or postseason.

1494
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 6: Records AND i need no buried with a very few.

1495
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: Exceptions, YEAH i mean the general theme is. Correct. NOW

1496
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: i think you can look FOR i think you can

1497
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 2: look for encouraging, signs or you could look for things

1498
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: that may suggest outcomes are going to be. Favorable and

1499
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: at the same, time you could look for things that

1500
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: happened during spring training that might bring up some degree

1501
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: of concern about how things are gonna. Unfold but, yeah

1502
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: every spring training, result whether it's a game or an

1503
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: outcome in a, game is to be taken with a

1504
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: grain of. SALT i, WOULD i, WOULD i would agree with.

1505
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 2: That but, look if If matt McClain has a good,

1506
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: spring you're gonna feel at least a little bit better

1507
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: about his chances of having a better. Season and if

1508
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: and if he plays and if he plays, poorly you're

1509
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: going to be a little bit concerned about his ability

1510
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: to have the sort of season that we're all hoping he.

1511
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 6: Has and it has to help the players go into

1512
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 6: the season with more confidence and stick that chest out

1513
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 6: a little bit. More and that's all good. Stuff SO

1514
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 6: i just get frustrated WHEN i hear people putting a

1515
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 6: little bit too much credence in these games because they're

1516
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 6: not full winning and. Losing there mostly for development and

1517
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 6: what have. YOU i got one last, thing because you love, interesting,

1518
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 6: right AND i hope That god you haven't heard this

1519
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 6: story you, remember well you probably. Don't there was a

1520
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 6: center that got drafted by The bulls in the right

1521
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 6: early seventies Named Clifford. Ray he was a six to nine,

1522
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 6: center very good, rebounder backup.

1523
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 4: Guy Oklahoma, Warriors.

1524
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 6: Yeah out Of oklahoma in nineteen seventy, eight way before

1525
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 6: we had cell phones and all that. Stuff they had

1526
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 6: an emergency at The Marine world and Read Wood, city

1527
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 6: which is northern up By Tom brady's, hometown and they

1528
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 6: needed somebody with a long. Arm he had three foot

1529
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 6: nine inch long, arms not counting his. Hands. Yeah the,

1530
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 6: team The warriors, staff went. Out they knew kind of his.

1531
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 6: Habits they went out and found him at a restaurant

1532
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 6: that he frequented in the mornings and, Said, clifford you

1533
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 6: got to go with. Us we've got an. Emergency you

1534
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 6: got to help. Us they took him out to The Marine.

1535
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,879
Speaker 2: World did you hear this story he saved the dolphins, Life,

1536
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: yeah Doctor.

1537
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 6: Spock, yeah he stuck his long arm and pulled that

1538
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 6: bolt out of that. Dolphin. SEE i can't ever get

1539
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: nothing on. You it's just that's WHY i get frustrated with.

1540
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: You, yeah He, mike thank, You, yeah he SAVED i

1541
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: remember hearing the story because he was a LONGTIME nba

1542
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: assistant listening to him talk about being brought in to

1543
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: save a dolphin's. Life, mike thank, you five, O'CLOCK espn fifteen.

1544
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 9: Thirty come from stunning straight.

1545
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: To last, second saves The orange And blue deliver drama every.

1546
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: Game and if that won't give you, GOOSEBUMPS i don't

1547
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: know what.

1548
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 9: WILL Fc Cincinnati soccer lives, here.

1549
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: Mayor dan thing, good look bady lea.

1550
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 9: Tonight ON espn fifteen.

1551
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: Thirty all, right let's start to the hour Because.

1552
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 12: I'm.

1553
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 2: Bad what's? Time this IS espn fifteen thirty On. Moegger

1554
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: by the, way just a few minutes, AGO i Got

1555
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: channel nine on in the studio, Today Frank marzulo's broadcasting from.

1556
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: Ship Frank marzulo is starting to look a lot like,

1557
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: me which ain't good For. Frank. Anyway we've Had channel

1558
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: nine on and they come on at the top of

1559
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: the hour AND i see the graphic you see is

1560
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: Suing Brendan. Soresby and then like thirty seconds, LATER i

1561
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 2: get an official statement From Cincinnati athletics about this particular.

1562
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: Topic i'll read the statement to. You are you? Ready

1563
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati athletics is proud to partner with its student athletes

1564
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: and honors the contractual commitments it makes to. Them we

1565
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 2: expect student athletes and their representatives to do the. Same

1566
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: in his lucrative nil agreement With Cincinnati, Athletics Brendan soresby

1567
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: committed to stay and play for two seasons as a

1568
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 2: Proud bearcat. Representative he also agreed if he left the

1569
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: university before that, time he would pay the university a

1570
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: specific amount for the substantial harm that his breach would.

1571
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Cause Cincinnati athletics intends to enforce that contractual. Commitment as

1572
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: stewards of the university's, resources the athletics department has a

1573
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: duty has a duty to do. So we Thank brendan

1574
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 2: for his time At cincinnati and wish him success in the.

1575
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: Future so there you. Go Brendan, sorosby who, was by the,

1576
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: way he was at the game last night In, lubbock

1577
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 2: sitting directly across from The bearcat bench rooting For Texas, Tech, which,

1578
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't have a major issue with. That that's

1579
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: the school that he goes. To you would expect him

1580
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: to show up and root for the school that he goes,

1581
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,520
Speaker 2: to the school that's paying him reportedly five million. Dollars

1582
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 2: Like i'd root For Texas tech, too IF i Were Brendan,

1583
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: sorosby but he was at the game last. Night today

1584
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: we find out that The university Of cincinnati has filed

1585
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: a breach of contract lawsuit looking for one million dollars

1586
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: in buyout money and liquidated damages From soresby for the,

1587
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: quarterback violating what they say is a multi season revenue

1588
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: sharing agreement with the. School reading here from The Great

1589
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: Justin williams in the, Athletics so there you. GO uc

1590
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: Plays Texas tech this upcoming. Season by the, way that's

1591
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: the homecoming game this. Year pretty bold move making the

1592
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: reigning league champion your your homecoming. Opponent But Brendan sorosby

1593
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: will be here for. Homecoming amid the, lawsuit we'll see

1594
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: and by the, way if you know who, Knows BUT

1595
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: i would imagine this isn't what we will. Get Stuart

1596
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: penrose on with us next week to talk about. This

1597
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of. LAWYERS i would imagine they're

1598
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: coming from a place of feeling like legitimately that the

1599
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 2: contract was breached and it's a million, bucks and a

1600
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: million bucks that you see can go a long, way so,

1601
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 2: Whatever but it adds another layer to the game this

1602
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,919
Speaker 2: coming season Between cincinnati And Texas tech With Brendan sorosby

1603
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: playing quarterback for The Red. Raiders we'll See reds are

1604
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: playing this afternoon and they're on the bottom of the eighth.

1605
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Inning game is In, Glendale. Arizona cincinnati leads The White

1606
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: sox three to. One the highlights today would include a

1607
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: solo homer off the bat Of Sal stewart and a

1608
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: two run homer off the bat of A Jj. Blede

1609
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: reds are getting some good pitching this. Afternoon nicoldolo started win,

1610
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: two did not give up a, run gave up two,

1611
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 2: hits and struck out. Four we were Talking mike called

1612
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 2: the show last hour about spring training results and whether

1613
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: they win or lose the games is mostly irrelevant to.

1614
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: ME i think it should be mostly irrelevant to. YOU

1615
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: i do not completely discount things that happen in the

1616
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: games during The Cactus. League it is in The Cactus

1617
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: league that somebody can win a starting. Job it is

1618
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: in The Cactus league or The Grapefruit league for that,

1619
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: matter that somebody can make a. Team it's in those

1620
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: games that careers can be. Shaped and it's also within

1621
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: those games that you could see things that leave you very.

1622
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: Encouraged let's Take Sal stewart for an. Example, Here South

1623
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: stewart is probably going to make The. Reds hitting a

1624
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: home run today certainly doesn't hurt his. Chances Sal stewart is,

1625
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: probably though going to make The. Reds would you prefer

1626
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: him hit two hundred this spring and never hit the

1627
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: ball out of the? Ballpark or do you want to

1628
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: see him put up big numbers and hit a bunch

1629
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: of home. Runs neither guarantees what his stats look like

1630
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: when the season actually. Begins but there are things that

1631
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: can happen in these games that make you feel encouraged,

1632
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: about like a guy Like Sal stewart having a big rookie,

1633
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: season or maybe some things that make you feel, like

1634
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: you know, what perhaps at the start of the, season

1635
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: we should tap the brakes when it comes to. Expectation

1636
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: this is an enormous season For matt, McClain like it's, time,

1637
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Man like we got to stop talking about the player

1638
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: that he was in twenty twenty. Three he was the

1639
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: most disappointing player on the team last. Season matt McClain

1640
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: has to be. Better this is a pivotal year for,

1641
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: him and it's a pivotal year for him and The.

1642
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Reds he could hit five hundred during the, spring and

1643
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 2: it would not guarantee that he was going to have

1644
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: a turnaround. Season but wouldn't you like to see some

1645
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: things that happen in these games that would suggest That

1646
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: matt McClain is better equipped to have the sort of

1647
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: season that we were hoping he would have last. YEAR

1648
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 2: i think the answer is. YES i was In lubbock

1649
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: last night for THE uc. Game bearcats lose To Texas

1650
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 2: tech and it really is. True like losing To Texas

1651
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: tech like big, deal, right except it is a big

1652
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: deal when it's your teenth. Loss AND i think we

1653
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: all did. This they won four consecutive, games had these

1654
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 2: stunning performance and upset Of, kansas and in three of

1655
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: those four games played really. Well they did not play

1656
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: very well Against, utah But utah, stings and because of,

1657
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: THAT i think a lot of us were starting to

1658
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 2: look at things through the lens of, well maybe there's a.

1659
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: Chance now when we say maybe there's a, chance not

1660
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: hey went out and there are going to be a

1661
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: tournament team like went, out and it'll be more of a.

1662
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Conversation ALTHOUGH i think had they won, out including last,

1663
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: night they would have been a tournament, team like you

1664
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 2: got to play yourself onto the. Bubble you're not finding

1665
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: anybody who looks at these things who is referring to

1666
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: The bearcats as next four outs or last four, out

1667
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: like they got to get there first before you even

1668
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 2: talk about them being in the. Tournament that's a lot of.

1669
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 2: WORK i think sometimes we we we underestimate how hard

1670
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: it is to go from outside the field to in the.

1671
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Field here in Late february and in Early, march there

1672
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 2: just aren't a lot of, games and typically you have

1673
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: to leap frog a lot of. Teams but they had

1674
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: one four straight last night was an opportunity for a

1675
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 2: resume boosting. Victory maybe last night on its own wouldn't

1676
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: have people start putting The bearcats in the. Field in,

1677
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: fact that would not have, happened but they would have

1678
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: been a little bit more interesting as it relates to

1679
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: the conversation about construction of the tournament. Field problem is

1680
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: not that they lost In Texas. Tech the problem is

1681
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: they're playing at from such a position that like you

1682
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 2: gotta win every game, now and you have to win

1683
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: At Texas, Tech like all, right shrug your shoulders and,

1684
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: go no big, deal you lost To Eastern michigan at the.

1685
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Time but it's like that's one you're gonna have to

1686
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: make up for against teams Like Texas tech or early

1687
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: In big twelve. Plays shrug your. Shoulders, man it's hard

1688
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: to win on the. Road it's hard to go To

1689
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: morgantown and. Win Cool but because you didn't win that,

1690
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 2: one now you gotta go win more games, later including

1691
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: in a game like the one you have At Texas.

1692
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: TECH i felt like most of us feel the same.

1693
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Way they were. Doomed eight minutes into the. Game they

1694
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: had been close to flawless on. Offense they were up

1695
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: by five. Points miami wins last, night three more to finish.

1696
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: Undefeated they cover the spread again last. Night i've been

1697
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: wrong about, many, many, many many many things in my.

1698
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: LIFE i have been wrong about, many, many many many

1699
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 2: things while sitting in front of this. Microphone this may

1700
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 2: be a moot point because perhaps they do win THE

1701
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,839
Speaker 2: Mac tournament, title, which by the, way A Mac tournament

1702
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: title game Between akron And miami could be. Awesome if

1703
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: The RedHawks win these next three, games and they'll be

1704
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: favored to win all three of, them are not missing the,

1705
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i could be wrong IF i am big, deal who?

1706
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: CARES i don't THINK i. AM i find it hard

1707
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 2: to believe that the committee is going to keep out

1708
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 2: a team that didn't lose a game during the regular.

1709
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Season and before you throw at, me, well what about the.

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01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: Schedule the schedule is a. Factor the schedule is why

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01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 2: we're having this conversation to begin. With the schedule is

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01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 2: why if they go in with one, loss meaning in

1713
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: THE mac, tournament if they go in with one, loss

1714
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: their seed ceiling is extraordinarily. Low nobody is ignoring the.

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01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Schedule Saint joe's in two thousand and four won every

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01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 2: game when twenty seven or zero lost a xavior in

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01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: the first round of The atlantic Ten tournament made it

1718
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: as a one. Seed we're not talking About miami doing.

1719
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 2: That we're talking about them sneaking. In if they win

1720
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: the next, three they'll sneak. In the combine is happening In.

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01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 2: Indy we do have some audio to play for you

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01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: later on this, hour but first we're gonna go and

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01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 2: talk with our. FRIEND i say our. Friend i've actually

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01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 2: never had her on the. Show she has no remote

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01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: idea WHO i. Am Lindsay, rhoades who spent years on

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Speaker 2: THE nfl network is Now Assumer. Sports she is going

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Speaker 2: to join us from the combine next ON espn fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Thirty Al golden And Dan pitcher has spoken An. Indy

1740
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: you'll hear from both in fifteen. Minutes the combine is

1741
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 2: happening In. Indianapolis we're gonna go there.

1742
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 4: Now you.

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01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 2: Know we love the folks At sumer sportssumer sports dot.

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01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: Com our Guys Sean saya joins us every year during the.

1745
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: Season joined us a couple of weeks, Ago Lindsay rhodes

1746
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: FROM U Suomer sports is with. Us she is at

1747
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: The combine and during What i'm sure is an extraordinarily

1748
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: busy few days for her kind enough to join. Us,

1749
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: lindsay it's awesome to have. You how are?

1750
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 18: You thank you so. Much i'm happy to be with.

1751
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 18: You i'm having a great.

1752
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Day i'm, Sure i'm. SURE i want you to touch

1753
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 2: on this. First so for years people have watched the,

1754
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: combine AND i don't want to SAY i have made

1755
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: fun of, it but express skepticism as to whether or

1756
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: not what we're watching in terms of the three cone

1757
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: drill and the forty yard dash and all the different

1758
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 2: exercises we. Watch for years people have, wondered, like how

1759
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: much does any of that really translate into success at

1760
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: The National Football league? Level from your guy's vantage, point

1761
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 2: which is deeply analytical and really really, smart what should

1762
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: we do with combine results when we start to figure

1763
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 2: out what some of these guys are going to do

1764
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: with the Next probably.

1765
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 18: Not, much to be honest with, you which isn't to

1766
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 18: say that it is not valuable and that teams don't

1767
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 18: need the. Information And i'll get back to why they

1768
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 18: still do need the. Information BUT i do think that

1769
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 18: we've looked into different position drills and their correlation numbers

1770
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 18: to success in THE nfl in their first three, years

1771
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 18: which we look at three years because that's when you

1772
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 18: have to make a decision about whether or not, to you,

1773
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 18: know give them a second, contract and also correlation numbers

1774
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 18: between like the position drill like a forty time for,

1775
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 18: instance result and then draft. Position and we found that

1776
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 18: the correlation numbers pretty much across the board for a

1777
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 18: bunch of different positions and pretty much every single drill

1778
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 18: that you could do or like the measurable parts of

1779
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 18: the combine are really. Minimal and we actually my, colleague

1780
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 18: my Colleague Sam bruckhouse just posted an article it's up

1781
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 18: on The Sumer sports website right now that is ABOUT

1782
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 18: nfl combined by, Position how do these positions PREDICT anfl?

1783
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 18: Success and he goes through all of the different correlation,

1784
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 18: metrics but essentially you're looking at like best case, scenario

1785
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 18: you have a correlation of like twenty, percent thirty. Percent that's, low,

1786
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 18: Right SO i think the reason that it still has

1787
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 18: value to the, teams, however is because although they're using

1788
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 18: a lot of tracking, data and certainly film is, king

1789
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 18: and so whatever they've put on tape is the primary.

1790
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 18: Evaluation and then the tracking, data and we have the

1791
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 18: ability At Zoomer sports with a model that we built

1792
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 18: to evaluate to even kind of put numbers next to

1793
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 18: certain trait, evaluations and so you can measure them in

1794
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 18: so many different ways now using the data that we're

1795
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 18: gathering from what they're actually doing on the field and.

1796
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 18: GAMES i think that's, second and THEN i think that

1797
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 18: the combine is valuable because the teams like to have

1798
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 18: historical data that they can comp to all of the

1799
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 18: past people at that. Position, so for, instance a wide

1800
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 18: receiver who runs a forty now and also you, know

1801
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 18: does the or, whatever they're collecting a series of numbers

1802
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 18: and then they can put it into their database and

1803
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 18: they can compare it to all wide receivers like in

1804
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 18: nineteen ninety three and in two thousand and, four and

1805
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 18: so since we didn't have all of these tracking data

1806
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 18: metrics back, then that's the easy comp to just compare

1807
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 18: them numerically to a whole historical, database and so it

1808
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 18: has value to them in that. WAY i think it's

1809
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 18: super fun to. Watch but aside from maybe like the,

1810
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 18: drills like in terms of like you, know quarterbacks out

1811
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 18: they're throwing the, ball or like doing the on field

1812
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 18: drills PART i would say that's probably the most valuable.

1813
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 18: Thing the forties are, fun BUT i wouldn't get bent

1814
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 18: out of shape if a guy doesn't run, fast AND

1815
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 18: i wouldn't get too excited if a guy runs real.

1816
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Fast SO i ask you this for BECAUSE i want.

1817
01:36:58,760 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: TO i want to follow it up in two different.

1818
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: Essions one is about a guy that The Bengals i'm

1819
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 2: sure would be interested if he's, there and That's Ruben,

1820
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: bain BECAUSE i could watch the tape and tell, you,

1821
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: man that, guy that guy's a, load that guy's going

1822
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: to be tough to, block that guy can make an immediate.

1823
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: Impact but All i'm going to hear this week is

1824
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: how short his arms? Are so what SHOULD i do with?

1825
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 18: THAT i would also advise you to do nothing with?

1826
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 18: That AND i MEAN i, know, right like what a

1827
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 18: call you guys this week means? Nothing have fun WATCHING

1828
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 18: i think that the arm length thing. IS i, mean

1829
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 18: they're definitely scouts and general manager who probably disagree with

1830
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 18: me and say that there are definitely there are like

1831
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 18: it doesn't matter unless you go below this. Threshold but

1832
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 18: WHAT i would argue is that Ruben vain had whatever

1833
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 18: his arms, measure that's what they measured last year when

1834
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 18: he was doing what he did At, miami and that's

1835
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 18: what they measured the year before and the year before,

1836
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 18: that and so he has clearly figured out a way

1837
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 18: to compensate for whatever size he doesn't have in his arm.

1838
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 18: Length same story With Will. Campbell and by the, way

1839
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 18: we had this exact same conversation About Will campbell last,

1840
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 18: year and look where he went in the, draft and

1841
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 18: look at how HE i, mean he didn't have a

1842
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 18: Great Super, bowl that's a different, story went up against

1843
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 18: a very very good, defense but he had a great

1844
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 18: first season in the. League like he's clearly like the

1845
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 18: hit on the. Pick SO i think that a lot

1846
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 18: of this is noise more than. Anything AND i think

1847
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 18: where it really, becomes where it really maybe factors into

1848
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 18: a team's decision making process is if there is a

1849
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 18: tie or if you have a bunch of players bucketed

1850
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 18: on the same tier and you just need a, tiebreaker

1851
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 18: and you, say, look these guys are even we love them.

1852
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 18: Both we think both of them have the same, chance

1853
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 18: and maybe this is a slight negative like that could

1854
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 18: impede his. Path it provides one less path to. Success

1855
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 18: so we're going to go in the other. Direction BUT

1856
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 18: i wouldn't, like, oh, shoot his arms measured at, whatever

1857
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 18: and so we're going to drop him tin spots like

1858
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 18: that just doesn't make any.

1859
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Sense so The bengals last, Year Lindsay rose is with

1860
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 2: us from a sumersports dot. Com The bengals last year

1861
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 2: took a guy In Shamar, stewart and it kind of

1862
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 2: put them at the epicenter of the trades versus production

1863
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: debate Where Shamar, stuart you, know he had a lot of,

1864
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 2: disruptions but he rarely finished. Plays one and a half

1865
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 2: sacks his final season in, college four and a half

1866
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 2: across his three. Years but it, Was, hey we love the,

1867
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 2: trades we love the physical specimen that he. Is here's

1868
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: how he stacks up against guys who are in THE. Nfl,

1869
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: so based on everything you outlined for, me based on

1870
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: what we know About Shamar, stewart and you know his

1871
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 2: rookie season was impacted by. Injury nobody's giving up on.

1872
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 2: Him BUT i think a lot of folks here have been,

1873
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: like you know, what forget the. Trades show me what

1874
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 2: the guy does on, Film show me what the guy

1875
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 2: does when he's playing. Football based on what you know

1876
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 2: about The Cincinnati, bengals how should they deviate from sort,

1877
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: of you, know taking the trade over what the guy

1878
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: actually puts on.

1879
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 17: FILM i think that there needs to be a mix of,

1880
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 17: both AND i THINK i think the film is.

1881
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 18: First and by the, way THE i, mean you can

1882
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 18: say With Shamar stewart there was a lack of production,

1883
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,480
Speaker 18: numbers but only really when it led TO sax, specifically,

1884
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 18: Right and so there's another layer to this, conversation which

1885
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 18: is pressures versus. Sax and so we talked so much

1886
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 18: about his inability to finish the play on, sas but

1887
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 18: how many pressures did he? Have did we just skip

1888
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 18: that whole part of the. Conversation is he still somehow

1889
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 18: impacting a play even though he's not ending it because

1890
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 18: there is an epa loss for the offense even when

1891
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 18: there is a Pressure and so obviously a sack is

1892
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 18: the ideal outcome for a defense because the play is

1893
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 18: dead and you have lost, yardage and we have a

1894
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 18: very specific tangible, numbers we can look at that measured.

1895
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 18: Success but if there's. PRESSURE i looked up the, state

1896
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 18: AND i don't have it off the top of my.

1897
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 18: Head it's like an eighty three percent drop in EXPECTED

1898
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,839
Speaker 18: epa per play if you have a clean pocket versus

1899
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 18: a pocket that has pressure associated with. It so over

1900
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 18: the course of a, year add up the number of

1901
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 18: pressures that you're adding to the, mix and maybe that

1902
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 18: results in a. Throwaway maybe that results in a poor,

1903
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 18: Throw maybe that results in a poor throw that is. Intercepted,

1904
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 18: like there just isn't as clean a way to measure

1905
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 18: the outcome. There but IF i tell you that there's

1906
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 18: an eighty three percent loss in expected points out an

1907
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 18: efficiency on those, plays then there's a more tangible way

1908
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 18: to look at the pressure as having been. Impactful, Also

1909
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 18: SO i think there's a lot of different ways to

1910
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 18: look at. THIS i do think that if you are

1911
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 18: if the conversation is he didn't produce in, college meaning

1912
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 18: he wasn't good in, college but, man look at how

1913
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 18: fast he is and look at how big he, is

1914
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 18: and like that's that's a dumb way to, evaluate then

1915
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 18: you can't get over sold on somebody who's trade cy

1916
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 18: in that. Sense the production in terms of you were

1917
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 18: a good college player that impacted plays in a lot

1918
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 18: of ways that has to be. There what does that

1919
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 18: production look like in terms of a. Number that's a different.

1920
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Conversation why did they make offensive lineman run the forty yard?

1921
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 18: Dash i'm so glad you asked that because we just

1922
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 18: had did you like my like gas.

1923
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 15: Put there a?

1924
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

1925
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 18: Okay, so And i'm so glad you asked that today

1926
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 18: because YESTERDAY i had a different. Answer we talked To

1927
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 18: Sam schwartztein today on The Sumer Sports show for an

1928
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 18: episode that hasn't even posted, yet so sneak pray. View

1929
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 18: he used to be an offensive lineman At stanford and

1930
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 18: is the guy who created the kickoff rules this year

1931
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 18: for THE nfl and does The Amazon Prime vision. Games

1932
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 18: so he's like a data nerd but also a football

1933
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 18: player who played offensive. Line he, Said AND i think

1934
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 18: it's the perfect framing for this that the forty yard

1935
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 18: dash is a fitness test for offensive. Linemen and now

1936
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,600
Speaker 18: think about, it what you're actually looking for in like

1937
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,879
Speaker 18: a tackle for. Instance you it's like this is a

1938
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 18: physical specimen that is a. Unicorn you cannot find people

1939
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 18: who are that tall and that size from a weight,

1940
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 18: standpoint and also that, Athletic like it is hard to

1941
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 18: find people who have all of that skill set in

1942
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 18: there to play offensive, line and all of those things are,

1943
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 18: necessary especially to. Tackle so now you're on a, forty

1944
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 18: how in shape are? You and now the forty are.

1945
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 18: Desk it's not really about the, time but it is

1946
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 18: about are you athletic and physically fit enough to fit

1947
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 18: within a certain percentage parameter against your, peers or are

1948
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 18: you big and you're you're gas running a forty yard

1949
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 18: or you're, slow like maybe that will lead to you

1950
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 18: having ankle problems or injury issues because your body just

1951
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 18: can't hold up under the the conditions that it needs

1952
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 18: to within the course of the. Season and when he said,

1953
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 18: THAT i was, Like i'm never going to look at

1954
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 18: that like all the same, way LIKE i, THINK i

1955
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 18: think that's such a smart way to look at, It

1956
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 18: like it's not about the, number it's literally are you

1957
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 18: athletic enough to do this? Well and that's so important

1958
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 18: for those positions in ways THAT i think are under.

1959
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 2: Discussed so the offensive lineman should run the. Forty but

1960
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 2: here would be my recommendation because we Had Andre smith

1961
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: here seventeen years ago and he ran it without his.

1962
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: Shirt that was a, Mistake so just have something.

1963
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 17: ON i.

1964
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 18: Wouldn't, nah, no, No although isn't it funny like if

1965
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 18: eyes on the? Line how many years ago did you

1966
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 18: say that?

1967
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 2: Was that was two thousand and, nine seventeen years?

1968
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 18: Ago Oh, god isn't that wild that many years? Ago,

1969
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 18: ANYWAY i feel like body changes in the, Trenches like

1970
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 18: they just look different now for the most, Part like

1971
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 18: remember like The Vince wilfork's of the world of either

1972
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 18: defensive tackles and like those bodies don't exist. Anymore they

1973
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 18: exist at, guard, right but they like you always have

1974
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 18: that guard that pops up that's from a small school

1975
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 18: Like North Dakota. State it's Always North Dakota, state Like

1976
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 18: Sacramento state or something like, that and they are they're

1977
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 18: always wearing a cutoff at The Senior, bowl and they

1978
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 18: always have long hair and maybe maybe like dental works

1979
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 18: that they. Need like it's such a specific snapshot of

1980
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 18: the guards and sometimes. Centers but the people that come

1981
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 18: out of nowhere at this time of year and feel

1982
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 18: like the. Stars but, YEAH i feel like for the most,

1983
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 18: part you look at an edge and they have to

1984
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 18: be so lean and so athletic and even defensive tackles

1985
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 18: and then certainly offensive. Tackles like you just there's such

1986
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 18: a degree of athleticism and speed kind of and not

1987
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 18: like long, speed not the forty, speed but just like

1988
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 18: the ability to kind of move quickly and react fast

1989
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 18: that is so necessary in today's. Game i've found it

1990
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 18: very fascinating how the bodies have just.

1991
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 2: Changed it's, interesting you, know tackles now look like tight

1992
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: ends used two and tight ends now look like wide.

1993
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 2: Receivers it's just. It you've seen that sort of ripple,

1994
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: effect you, know as you go from inside to out

1995
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: in the. Sport, yeah and.

1996
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 18: Some of these tight ends are wide. Receivers, yeah which

1997
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 18: is another layer of like HOW i feel like we're

1998
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 18: especially now you're starting to see a lot of the

1999
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 18: heavy tight end personnel groupings that we talked about this,

2000
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 18: year with The seahawks running a ton of twelve and

2001
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 18: The rams running a ton of. Thirteen Personnel for people

2002
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 18: who aren't familiar with those numbers means the first number

2003
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 18: in the number, twelve it's the one we refers to

2004
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 18: how many running backs are on the. Field the second

2005
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 18: number the two in, twelve or first how many tight

2006
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 18: ends are on the, field and then the leftovers is

2007
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 18: how many wide receivers are on the. Field but so

2008
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 18: many heavy tight end packages that we saw this year

2009
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 18: on really good, offenses AND i kind of wonder if

2010
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 18: that's not a trend of something that people copy moving.

2011
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 18: Forward did we talk all the time about it being

2012
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 18: a coffeecat. League but because the goal of that is

2013
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 18: to get your defense in, base because base is not base,

2014
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 18: Anymore like everybody wants to put all of these corner

2015
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,879
Speaker 18: on the, field And nickel now is essentially five dbs

2016
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 18: is the defense that defenses are running out most. Frequently

2017
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 18: so you want to get them out of that so

2018
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 18: that you can throw on them more, efficiently because throwing

2019
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 18: is a better way to move the ball downfield easily

2020
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 18: or quickly efficiently than running the. Ball so you'll run

2021
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 18: the ball a, lot and you'll put tight ends on

2022
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 18: the field to make it look like you're going to

2023
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 18: run the ball a lot so that you can get

2024
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 18: the looks that you want in the passing. Game but

2025
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 18: because you're doing, that you're putting more Tighten now you

2026
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,839
Speaker 18: need more tight ends on your, roster AND i wonder

2027
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 18: if we're going to start seeing teams start to just

2028
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 18: gobble up tight, ends and as you do, that then

2029
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 18: you can have like one guy who's more of a

2030
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 18: blocking tight, end but you can metabolize that a little

2031
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 18: bit and take a tight end Like Randa gadsden from

2032
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 18: The chargers member he kind of had like a few

2033
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 18: weeks there where he popped early in the season and

2034
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 18: he was a converted wide receiver literally and kind of

2035
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 18: came out of nowhere and was a great pass catching

2036
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 18: option for a little. WHILE i wonder if more teams

2037
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 18: aren't going to start doing, that and as they start

2038
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 18: doing that and making the tight end the number one

2039
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 18: target in the offense like a train McBride is In.

2040
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 18: Arizona you, know at some point we've got to start

2041
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 18: talking about paying them more.

2042
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Money this is, uh this is really high, end And

2043
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: i'm glad you're. HERE i have one More, no it

2044
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 2: is this is.

2045
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 18: Good saying, nerdy WHICH i also can.

2046
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 2: No, no this is, no this is. Good this is

2047
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 2: The but BECAUSE i say, that BECAUSE i got to

2048
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 2: bring up one more, thing and you've been generous with your,

2049
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 2: time do you mind this is maybe not quite as high.

2050
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 4: End i'm.

2051
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 2: Good i'm going to give you a little. Backstory here

2052
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 2: are you? READY i follow you on On twitter we

2053
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: still call It twitter x. Whatever and On monday, NIGHT

2054
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,520
Speaker 2: i am laying in a hotel room In, Lubbock. Texas

2055
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 2: and in the hotel room there are two. Beds this

2056
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 2: is like a little bit after a little bit after,

2057
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 2: Midnight texas time had gone to, heck it was there

2058
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: for a college basketball. Game AND i go get dinner

2059
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: AND i go get a. Nightcap i'm laying in. Bed

2060
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 2: i'm scrolling AND i see a post from you and

2061
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: it reads And i'll read it, verbatim, hotel two, beds

2062
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 2: it's just. You are you taking the bed closest to

2063
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 2: the door or the? Window AND i was gonna chime.

2064
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: In THEN i, thought wait a, Minute lindsay's gonna join.

2065
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 2: Me this is gonna be. Awesome AND i read all the.

2066
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 2: Replies nobody has my perspective on, this AND i wanted

2067
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:17,600
Speaker 2: to share it with. You are you?

2068
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 4: READY?

2069
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: Woa it depends on how you feel about cleaning people

2070
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 2: coming into your.

2071
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 18: Room oh that's a first of, all not a, fan,

2072
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 18: Right i'm a privacy on the door the entire.

2073
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 2: Time, Right so the WAY i look at it is

2074
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: AND i was In monday night when you sent this,

2075
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: Tweet i'm in the same predicament two, beds AND i, said,

2076
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 2: WELL i slept in that one last night And i'm

2077
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 2: sleeping in this one tonight because there's nothing better than

2078
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 2: getting into a nice made. Bed but you, know if

2079
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 2: you like the cleaning, person they'll come in and make

2080
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: it for you if you're like me not a. Slob

2081
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 2: SO i don't need a cleaning person every. Day don't

2082
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: love them coming. In i'd prefer to not have them

2083
01:49:58,320 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 2: in it. All it was a two nights, day SOA

2084
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 2: i don't have a cleaning person for the duration of the,

2085
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 2: stay and on both NIGHTS i get a tucked, in

2086
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 2: made bed And i'm. Set so there's the.

2087
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 18: Answer that is a great. ANSWER i am a slav

2088
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 18: and that's part of the reason they don't want them

2089
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 18: in because they don't want to have to clean up

2090
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 18: for the cleaning lady When i'm away and also. Busy

2091
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,600
Speaker 18: BUT i, YEAH i think that that's fascinating that you

2092
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 18: switch when you're.

2093
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:24,520
Speaker 2: There, YES.

2094
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 18: I have found and most PEOPLE a lot of people Responded,

2095
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 18: window and a lot of people Responded window because it

2096
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 18: was closest to the air conditioning in a lot of

2097
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 18: hotel rooms and they wanted that or. Whatever there were

2098
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 18: a lot of responses that said that they were at

2099
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 18: wherever it made sense in terms of eyeline with THE,

2100
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 18: tv AND i think that that's maybe my. RATIONALE i

2101
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 18: have been racking my. BRAIN i sucked in the one

2102
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 18: closest to the, door have been sleeping in the one

2103
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 18: closest to the door here In, indy AND i think

2104
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 18: that that's. WHY i think IT'S tv proximity And i'm

2105
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 18: just trained to go to, wherever even Though i'm not

2106
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 18: WATCHING tv. Here so it's a totally irrelevant. Concept BUT

2107
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 18: i think JUST i scan the layout of the room

2108
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 18: and then, go that's WHERE i will. Be But i'm

2109
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 18: not one hundred percent sure that's the reason for.

2110
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,679
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah so for, me it's always If i'm there multiple,

2111
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 2: nights it's it's both. Beds i'm going to use. Both

2112
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: if it's one of the, OTHER i GUESS i sleep

2113
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: away from the bathroom for reasons that we are not

2114
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 2: going to talk about. HERE i told this is a

2115
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 2: high end this is high end stuff for talking about.

2116
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 2: HERE i can't think.

2117
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 18: You should like a caller segment Of yeah day that.

2118
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 2: Might be what we do. Next, yeah let's just talk

2119
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 2: About Trey hendrickson. More i'd rather talk about the. Hotel get,

2120
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,080
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2121
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2122
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2123
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2124
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2127
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 2: you that The reds game is, over but Instead i'm

2128
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,120
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2129
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Speaker 13: Traffic this report Is.

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Speaker 11: Cincinnati's sports, STATION espn fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Thirty D Mark pofe show is eleven minutes. Away this

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Speaker 2: IS espn fifteen thirty on Moeger. Tern how are we

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Speaker 2: doing on? Time we have all this exciting coordinator audio

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Speaker 2: era that you've been working hard. On how are we on? Time,

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Speaker 2: yeah three and a half. MINUTES i just wanted to

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Speaker 2: quickly update you on you, know in the first hour

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Speaker 2: of the, SHOW i was sitting here talking About god

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Speaker 2: knows What i've Already i've already. FORGOTTEN i look Over channel.

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Speaker 2: Nine there is The Kelly Clarkson, show AND i look

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Speaker 2: over and her, guest for some, reason was a girl

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Speaker 2: THAT i went to junior high school, with THAT i

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Speaker 2: actually attended a dance with THAT i had a major

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Speaker 2: crush on WHEN i was like twelve years, old AND i, thought,

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Speaker 2: like that's her and. THAT i went to Her facebook

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Speaker 2: page and there was a picture of her on set

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Speaker 2: from The Kelly Clarkson, show and so me thinking like

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Speaker 2: this will be a neat anecdote for her, ANECDOTE i should.

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Speaker 2: Say FOR i took a picture of her ON tv

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Speaker 2: AND i sent it to her and just, said this

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Speaker 2: was really cool to see WHILE i was on the.

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Speaker 2: Air and apparently we've Been facebook friends since two thousand and.

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Speaker 2: Nine this was the first. INTERACTION i hit the message

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Speaker 2: thing AND i sent her A facebook message and took

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Speaker 2: a picture AND i sent it and, thought you, know

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Speaker 2: she'll find this need that here In. CINCINNATI i saw

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Speaker 2: her on The Kelly Clarkson show and she just wrote

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Speaker 2: me back a few minutes ago with a thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: Emoji so there's she obviously was quite taken aback by

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Speaker 2: hearing from me THE nfl. Combine let's hear From Al.

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Speaker 2: Golden Al colden is The Al, Colden Al Golden. God

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Speaker 2: Al golden is the defensive coordinator of The, bengals and

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Speaker 2: you know he says he likes the nucleus of the,

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Speaker 2: defense but they just need some experienced.

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Speaker 14: Players really excited about the nucleus we have coming. Back you,

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Speaker 14: know it's not just a fresh, start you know WHAT

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Speaker 14: i mean in terms of a manu starting from ground. Zero,

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Speaker 14: no there's there's pieces. THERE a Healthy dax at the

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Speaker 14: end of last. Year really look at his last eight

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Speaker 14: nine games when he was when he was, healthy and

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Speaker 14: really and a transition. Better there's change of direction got,

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Speaker 14: better his agility got. Better as man coverage you got. Better,

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Speaker 14: Uh i'm excited about. THAT dj came on for. Us you,

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Speaker 14: know we talked about the, linebackers talked about THE jb

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Speaker 14: So Mouse murphy really improved.

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Speaker 2: Players i'm.

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Speaker 14: EXCITED i feel, like you, know we can add pieces to.

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Speaker 14: It we can add the. Leadership they just you, know

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Speaker 14: they have to match our. Culture they have to have

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Speaker 14: THE fbi that, uh.

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Speaker 4: That we need and obviously we need some impact.

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Speaker 2: Guys that would be great and, uh you, KNOW i

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Speaker 2: mean not even like a It's Al, golden not even

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Speaker 2: like a, hey that's really, cool nice hearing from. You

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Speaker 2: or just a thumbs up of the thumbs up. Emoji

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna send that to, somebody just send a middle, Finger,

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Speaker 2: like just send a picture of your middle finger and

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Speaker 2: send it to them thumbs up. Emoji Here's Al golden

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Speaker 2: on the talent available in this year's free agent.

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Speaker 14: Class it's a good it's a good. Group it really

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Speaker 14: is it's a good. Group and, again you, Know duke

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Speaker 14: uh and his group have done a great job of

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Speaker 14: identifying you, know those players that you know match what

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Speaker 14: we're looking, for AND i think that's really. Important and you,

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Speaker 14: know the more congruence there is between us and, them

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Speaker 14: the more, conversation the more, communication the more, collaboration so you,

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Speaker 14: know the more you enhance your probability of.

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Speaker 2: Success and that's.

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Speaker 14: How we feel right now that we're that we're in

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Speaker 14: a really good position going into this in terms of cap,

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Speaker 14: space in terms of, clarity and let's let's let's get

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Speaker 14: some pieces in here that match what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: At the same, Time, like if you're, her here's a

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Speaker 2: guy that you haven't heard from in thirty five years

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Speaker 2: and he randomly sends you a message On, FACEBOOK i,

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Speaker 2: Guess And i'm not doing it to be, creepy Like

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Speaker 2: i'm you, know very happily. Married i'm sure she is as.

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Speaker 2: WELL i just thought it would she would find it

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Speaker 2: neat that a guy that she went to Some lames

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Speaker 2: seventh grade dance with saw her on television and thought

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Speaker 2: enough to, say, hey look that was. Cool thumbs up

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Speaker 2: emoji by the, way you, Said Dan pitcher's audio was. Boring,

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Speaker 2: yeah it was more boring than what we just listened

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Speaker 2: to From Al. Golden REALLY i want to hear. This give,

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Speaker 2: me give Me Dan pitcher on some some stuff that

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Speaker 2: the offense needs to do better this.

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Speaker 4: Year THEN i got me.

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Speaker 2: Scrambling, OH i got you. Scrambling that's sor, right that's

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Speaker 2: fine to tell. Me, yeah two.

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Speaker 19: Things take care of the football and we have to

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Speaker 19: become a more explosive football team on first and second.

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Speaker 4: Down that's the main.

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Speaker 19: Takeaways and you, know taking care of the football is

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Speaker 19: always something that you know that there's a delicate balance

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Speaker 19: there because we always want to approach offensive football from

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Speaker 19: an attacking. Mindset and so if the first thing you

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Speaker 19: talk about and offensive football is don't turn the ball,

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Speaker 19: over well that's that's a defensive.

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Speaker 13: Mindset that's a that's.

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Speaker 19: What are we going to do to make sure we

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Speaker 19: don't screw this?

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Speaker 2: Up and that's not how we want to play. Football

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Speaker 2: oh that Was that wasn't as boring AS i thought

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Speaker 2: it was gonna. Be that was actually a pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Answer show's. Over we can play more.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow we.

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Speaker 2: Talk oh, BOY i can't, WAIT i can't. Wait combs

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Speaker 2: up emoji to that. One we're. Done The Mark Pope

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Speaker 2: show is. Next stick around FOR Fc Cincinnati soccer late

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Speaker 2: tonight at seven. O'clock have a great, Night thanks for.

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Speaker 2: Listening thanks To Tarn bland for. Producing this IS espn

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