WEBVTT - The Wes Miller Radio Show -- 10/30/25 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.600 Skyline Chili feeling good. It's Skyline time and the original 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.400 Montgomery In and the montgomery In at the boat House, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.799 home of the World's Greatest Dribs. Now here's Dan Horde, 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.840 Terry Nelson and UC's head coach Wes Miller on the 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.239 Home of the Bearcats seven hundred WLW. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:27.440 It is shell time. Very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Greetings 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.720 from the original montgomery In, Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.479 Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horbit, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.519 former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, and the star of 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.040 the show. Let's hear it for you see men's basketball 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.040 coach Wes Miller. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:47.680 I was hoping you weren't as efficient and proficient as 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.879 last week because I rehearsed the opener. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.080 I was ready because you told me you're gonna. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.519 Have to start the show off, because you know I 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.960 got the Bengals thing. Yeah, I'm gonna be a little 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.280 bit late. So I'm over here in the mirror I'm doing. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.800 All my stuff is shoke Tom like the whole thing. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.800 Very Let me ask you this question, would you like 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.680 to be the person that starts the show? 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:07.840 No, I can't know. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:08.360 I can't. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:09.960 You just did it extremely well. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.880 It's got to be special. Let's got You can't just 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.960 throw me out there like the wolves. You can let 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:15.640 me work on it. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.119 I worked on it for a while. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.960 You looked in the mirror in order to do that. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.240 I try to look like you. I grab my mic 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:24.120 Do I do that? 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:24.560 Yeah? 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:25.920 But you don't have a glass of wine in front 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.480 of you, so the coke wouldn't do it from me. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:28.040 That's true. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:28.640 That's true. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.800 I'm strictly a pepsi drinker here at the original Montgomery 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.720 and So this is our last show before the season begins. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.440 We've got Bear Cap basketball coming up on Monday night 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.760 and then again on Friday next week, a couple of 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.680 home games. It begins on Monday night against Western Carolina. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.680 I guess so we always ask you a question along 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.080 these lines at this time of year, But how are 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.559 you feeling this close to the start of the season 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.840 about your team's readiness to go. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.320 I think we're a lot more ready than we were 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.360 the last we we got together for a radio show. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.640 It's been a productive preseason. I think that the players 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.079 are ready to get out and do it for real 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.679 against somebody with a different Jersey on and it. I 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.600 always get excited this time of year as well, so 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.600 you know, we're ready for the first game. We've had 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.639 our probably most productive week of practice this week, our 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.880 most spirited week of practice, and that's been good for 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.000 all of us players, coaches included. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:26.800 I don't know if you got a haircutter, you just 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.320 or up at night pulling your hair out. But after 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.600 two non conference games, what are some things you say, Okay, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.240 we can build on this, and other things you say, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.280 you know, we gotta we gotta shortens up a little bit. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:43.120 Exhibition games, That's what I say. I'm kind of this 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:43.520 will be. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:48.200 The first non conference but it's a laundry list. You know, 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:53.280 there's there was in both exhibitions. There's there's certainly some 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.480 things that we were able to point out that were 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.400 positive that should give us some confidence. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:00.960 You know. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.200 Honestly, it was more when we did the things we've 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.920 been practicing and the things that we've spent time on, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.400 they were really good and that should give the guy's 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.880 confidence to keep doing those things. When we straight away 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.320 from those things, it was really bad and in both games, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.639 and obviously there was more, more good and more stuff 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.239 to build on I think in the first exhibition against 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.880 Michigan and not quite as much in the second. But 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.520 I'd say that we got a lot more in terms 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.400 of our preseason development in our second exhibition against Arkansas 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.760 that was way more valuable than the first one. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.120 So you played exhibition games on the road against the 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.920 number seven ranked team in the country Michigan and the 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.320 number fourteen ranked team in the country Arkansas. Do you 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.640 have any idea if any other team in the country 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.880 tried to do anything like that. I can't imagine another 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:57.120 team played two more difficult road games in exhibition play. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.440 I don't and I haven't looked at it, nor do 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.640 I care not to. You know, throw your question to me. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:08.200 It just was opportunity to really develop our team in 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.200 the preseason and tear you ask the question to really, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.560 you know, try to answer some questions when you have 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.159 a bunch of new, new people that you're putting together, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.479 to find some real adversity that we can work on 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.599 responding to right away, and then you know, obviously to 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.080 take some of the positive things and build off of 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.440 them or learn how to deal with them. You didn't 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.080 you can't plan basketball out right. But what I'd liked 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.680 is that we got a little bit of everything from 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.880 those two games, and I think we felt pretty good 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.359 driving back on the bus from ant Arbor. And you 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.120 got to learn in the Big twelve. You know, winning 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.000 is great and it feels good, and then it should 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.680 on the nights you do it, but you wake up 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.880 the next day and you turn the page and you 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.960 focus on getting better, and you focus on winning the 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.960 details that help you get better, and you have just 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.240 as much intent after a win as you do at 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.760 any other point. And then when you lose, you can't dwell. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:02.800 You got to learn from it. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.400 You deal with it, and you focus on getting better 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.760 and you have that kind of intent to go win 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.600 the next game. And we got to experience not just 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.080 those dynamics, but a lot of stuff that comes. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:13.360 With it all. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.080 And I thought that was important to do with the 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.640 team that hadn't been through the battles together. I've said 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.200 this a bunch about this team. We have to be 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.039 intentionally connected as a group on and off the court, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.360 and we want to play in February like a team 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.559 that's played together for two or three or four years, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:31.760 even though we just came. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.320 Together this year. That doesn't just happen. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.360 You got to go through some stuff, and so the preseason, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.039 whether it's the exhibitions or some stuff we did that 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.480 nobody could see, we have taken them through a little 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.200 bit of adversity. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.960 That's been positive for us. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.600 Speaking of improvements from game to game from last year 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.640 to this year, halveing Zalt. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.799 Has been amazing. His growth. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.160 Last year, if you asked him, what do you want 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:04.880 for dinner, he'll say yes, he didn't know them, only English. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.440 But he's speaking fluently. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.680 He's conversing on the sideline with his teammates, and when 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.960 he's in the game, the game has slowed down to 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.799 him to the point where you can put him in 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.960 in in crunch time or in minutes where you need 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.960 baskets and productivity from the post players, and he's coming 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:20.560 through for you. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.360 Well, I'm glad when you asked him last year he 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.400 said something because I thought there was time he's supposed 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.279 to call out of pick and roll covers and practice 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.400 and I don't hear a damn thing. And you know, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.839 I thought maybe it was a French thing or something, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.680 because he's also very soft spoken. And I went over 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:40.440 to France in May to meet his family because that's important. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.359 You know that you get to know everybody's family that 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:42.880 you're coaching. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.159 I met his brother and sister, and they are the 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.760 most outgoing, like you know, and and how beings. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.160 So reserved in an introvert. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.520 So I don't know where he got it from, okay, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.640 because his family's not that way. But he is talking better. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.600 But even more importantly, he's really improved. I would say this, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.360 and I'm gonna joke a little bit, but I'm dead serious. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.279 At the same time, he has so much value because 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.720 he knows who he is as a player, like he 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.840 understands his role, He understands the things that he does well, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.240 and he embraces those things very very much, unlike Terry Tonight, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.160 who knows his role isn't to do the introduction but right, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:25.560 very much like Layer exactly exactly. But you know, and 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.200 I think there's there's so much value in players understanding 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.000 who they are where they can be successful. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:32.880 We say it all the time. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.040 We're not saying you're not capable of doing that, but 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.880 you're not as good at doing that as you are 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.840 something else. And you're not as good at doing that 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.400 as somebody on your team is. So let's play to 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.600 our strengths. Halving's improved a lot, and he's also playing 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:46.400 to his strengths. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.040 By the way, Terry, if you ask an offensive lineman 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.960 what they want for dinner, they say yes as well, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.120 much like hel being So at the very beginning of 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.280 the show, coach, you said, this has been your best 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.480 week of prap this. Do you think that's because of 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.200 the Arkansas exhibition game? 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.680 Well, when I say our best week, it's been the 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.200 most important week because to me, we've we've had their 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.400 attention in a different way. I thought after the Michigan 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.440 week or the Michigan game the following week, I thought 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.440 their attitudes were good and their work ethic was good. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.240 I think I said that to you guys in here 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:29.680 that week, but the intention and the focus that that 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.360 wasn't where it needed to be. And after I said 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.360 this to our staff, I think it was like Tuesday 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.000 that week, and I started the bark and holler and 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.120 I said, you know what, why for what? 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.800 And I'm gonna let them figure this out the hard way. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.040 And then I told him, I said, you guys are 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.720 gonna learn, and I wanted to get our butts kicked 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.080 down there. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:49.640 I really did. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.839 I told I told coach Calipari that we talked a 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.800 couple of nights for the game. I said, Coach, we're 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:55.959 not ready. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.200 I just watched you. We've been watching your game, you know. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.439 And then after I talked to him something I really 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.319 get our butts kicked because they were seeming pretty ready. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.360 But I didn't want to get kicked that bad now 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:07.840 beyond milk. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.000 But it was in all in all seriousness, like it's 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.280 different than than a regular season game. I mean, it 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.920 was an opportunity to learn a lesson. We didn't do 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.360 a lot to try to prepare them forward or correct. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.000 What was going on. 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.240 And and that's that's been a good way for us 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.680 to get their attention this week and they and fairness 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.840 to the kids, they've they've responded. And we had a 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.960 wild film session on Sunday followed by a practice that 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.000 only ended because we ran out of countable athletic related 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.559 activity hours. You know where you know, Bill Komar comes out, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.480 go coach, we have to stop right now. You know 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.960 that type of thing, Yeah, exactly, you know, it was. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.239 Just blue past stop signs. They were like yield. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.520 Then we came out the next day and it did again, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.480 and we we did a morning thing and then a 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.040 night thing and Coach, we have to stop right now. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.000 So it was it was good. Uh, it was good. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.720 And then you know they I think we've improved this 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.800 week a lot, and that's the goal of the preseason. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.520 All right, We're going to take a time out. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.720 We are live at the Original Montgomery in Home of 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.280 the World's Greatest Drips. It's the West Miller Radio Show 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:23.960 on seven underd WLWA. We're back at the Original Montgomery 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.680 in How of the World's Greatest Drips and the West 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.440 Miller Radio Show. I am eating Montgomery in Saratoga Chips 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.120 the best. I apologize if that's obvious on the air. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.520 So I was looking at the EP top twenty five. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.080 Six teams from the Big Twelve are ranked in the 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.679 preseason poll. Three others, including Cincinnati, are getting votes. Depending 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.679 on which pole that you look at. None of this 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.120 is surprising to me. We know how good the league is, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:57.200 but it did underscore to me that no matter how 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.280 hard you work to build a great roster, it's always 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.440 just going to be difficult to rise to the top 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.199 of this league. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.720 Well, I think number one, it's doable. That's the first 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.360 thing I'd say. So I'm not gonna sit here and 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.280 try to paint some picture that it can't be done. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.760 That's why we're here. It's what we do. What we do, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.600 and while we do the work we. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.960 Do, we'reng But we are in a league where there's 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.320 a commitment. There's a commitment collectively from every program in 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.080 this league to try to do that. So you have 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.319 sixteen teams. I can't even keep up anymore, sixteen core. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.600 We have sixteen programs that all. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.120 In the Big sixteen, in the Big sixteen, Big twelve 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:42.280 plus four right four. But you have a bunch of 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:48.040 programs that are very, very committed and value basketball success historically. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.280 And obviously there's different levels of that, but you know, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.200 and that's different than being in the league where there's 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.480 historical difference or different buy in from a resource standpoint. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.319 This entire league is brought in, which is why and 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.400 we say this in recruiting all the time, this isn't 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.079 a pitch. If you take a ten year snapshot of 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.760 the best basketball league in America in every single metric 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.520 over the last ten years, whatever one you want to go, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.079 look at that that could have any value it's been 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.520 the Big Twelve. If you take a five year snapshot, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.559 it's been the Big twelve. If you take a three 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.560 year snapshot, it's been the Big Twelve. And I know 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.319 the SEC had a banner year last year, but in 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.800 any in recent history, it's been our league. And I think, yeah, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.520 it's going to be difficult to rise up in a 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.400 league or to be at the very top of the 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.040 league when it's been that dang good. But won't that 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.000 make it that much more sweet type of thing? 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.680 Then you bring routinely, you bring in officials to come 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.480 in and officiate your scrimmages, and you tell them, hey, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.120 officiate us like you're going to do in a game, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.880 call the hand checks. Call this with new rules being 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.240 implemented with the continuation rule, Now, guy if on the gather, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.000 if he's hit and he gathers that thing, you're going 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.319 to see an NBA continuation, which more fans don't understand 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.360 because they didn't they didn't know it's a new rule. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.160 A guy is gonna take two steps after he got 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.720 touched and he's gonna put the ball in and normally 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.520 you're used to the wave off, and it's gonna be 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.160 a basket and now you get a chance to use 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.000 your challenge, where in other times they would they would challenge. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.400 No, that's what you're wrong. We can't challenge that. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.640 Not that challenge I'm telling you get you get challenges now. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.120 Yeah, but we can't challenge that. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.280 We can't challenge the gather now. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.920 We can't challenge anything we got. We do get a challenge, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:29.000 you get one. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.640 If you win it, you're gonna If you win it, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.120 you get it back. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.720 And then way if you want them both, you're still out. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:36.800 Can you challenge. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:42.760 Basically nothing, to be honest. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.280 I mean you can inbound like out of bound, inbound. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:44.760 You can challenge. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.800 You can challenge an out of balance call, and you 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.719 can challenge a restricted area. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:51.520 Call, meaning. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.800 Or somebody called a block charge based on the circle. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.840 So it has to be a secondary defender. You can 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.080 challenge that call. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.720 Kirk Chris, I would have got two of those in 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:04.599 the Michigan. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.720 No, because that wasn't a just a block charge. You 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.360 can't you can't challenge block charge. But you can challenge 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.679 a block charge that was based on the restricted area. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.640 So if they call a block and they point to 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.000 the restricted area, you can challenge that not. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:20.800 A block point. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.920 It has to be that specific thing, which I mean 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.760 that didn't even have like so but really and then 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.240 you can challenge goaltending, but only if they call it 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.960 like you can't challenge a play that. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.960 But that was normally they would go to the monitor 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.480 on a goltend anyway. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.360 That was that was that was fairly new where they So. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.040 Now they won't just like they would go to the 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.440 monitor in the last two minutes on out of bounds, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.520 they're not doing that. So what the reason they're doing 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.520 this is to try to speed up the play so 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.520 there's not as much stoppage at the end of the game. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.680 Stop the three man huddles after they went to the monitor, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.000 and then the one of them leaves, another one comes 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.680 back in, and then they look and they get in 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.280 in a little tripod and it we're scratching your head 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:05.960 and what the hell's going? 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.840 Don't why don't they start with all three? That's migrape. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.560 It's always the two guys and then come on over 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.640 now have all three discuss it. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.000 And he's pulling his pants up and you know, talking 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.200 about what happened and what you're eating tonight. I don't 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.560 know what the hell were eating and that's just called 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.920 a block all right, Cool, you know twenty three on 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:28.280 the block, Derek Cat's out outside. Let's stop it. I'm 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:29.119 getting frustrated. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.360 I'm getting more frustrated. Number one, what you just described 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.160 it sounds about exactly right. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.360 I can think it, singing it a lot. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:43.400 But in seriousness, you're not you know, the block charge 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.720 thing in the restricted area, like there's two calls a year, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.320 and you're not going to challenge that and lose your 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:51.560 one challenge? 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.960 Okay, out of bounds? Right, this is what this is 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:57.720 what I brought up. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.960 So what happens if I'm standing on the sideline in 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.760 the first half with ten minutes left in the first 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.280 half and I watched the player on the other team 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:08.960 step out of bounds. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:09.720 I'm sorry they called. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.960 I'm sorry they call out of bounds on us, and 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.760 I saw that we didn't step out. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.360 Of bounds like that kind of a challenge. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.840 What if the camera angle can't see what I saw, Well, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.240 then they're gonna say, not enough evidence, you lose your 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.280 challenge and you better save that for the last two minutes. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.880 And now all the stuff they would go just get 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.680 right to get the play right. Now you have to 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.520 have a challenge to do it. And what if they 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.960 make two or three bad calls on a deflected ball 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.720 or something and they can't go to the monitor. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.600 All they've done, in my opinion, is make it. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.000 More difficult on the referees right and make it more 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.720 likely that they don't get the play right. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.680 And to me, that is idiotic. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.600 And I find the whole process do things to make 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.360 the game better, not make the game worse. And so 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.040 I loved the idea of a challenge like the NBA 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.440 where you could really challenge real calls, you know, and 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.600 then you could get your challenges back if you get 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.960 them right. And then so album was like, yeah, that's great, 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.080 that's fun new strategy. But I'll tell you what, whatever 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.120 they rolled out, it's worse. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.000 It doesn't make it. It doesn't make sense. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.080 You're not even gonna use a challenge because you you 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.040 better save it for that into game scenario where they 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.040 used to review it on their own. And so that's frustrating, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.280 and it's not fair to the officials either. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.080 Fairness down. You know, it's easy to pick them on 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:28.000 the radio show, but. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.159 It's it's not fair. It makes their jobs harder. Too, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.719 just like the freedom of movement thing. I've said this 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:40.280 to officials before when they started, you know, talking about 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.280 freedom of movement before and the and the gather. I've 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.200 asked them, do you understand the rule? And a lot 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.160 of them that they're honest, will say, Hell, we don't 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.800 understand it. We just call blocks because we don't. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.560 We don't even know what it's not. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.840 We're making it more difficult on the people officiating the game, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.919 and so then we're more frustrating when the games have 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.760 officiated and it doesn't go our way. And so again 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.960 we've made some big mistakes with the rules. Uh in 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.560 college basketball, these changes I know you might you may 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.240 have seemed excited, but as you look into them, they're 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:12.240 actually not real exciting. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.480 So here's the deal, though, with every league that has replay, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.199 it always starts with just a little bit, and that 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.760 it increases in order to get the calls right ultimately, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.199 So that's what's going to happen. You'll put up with 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.400 it this year and it's going to stink, and there'll 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.399 be games where they get it wrong and it hurts 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:32.320 one team. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.159 Or the other. Well, next year they'll fix it. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.520 I'll be all anything this year if it favors Cincinnati, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.160 I'm with you there, yeah. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.280 And you would know that you started on Triple A ball, 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.679