1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Skyline Chili feeling good. It's Skyline time and the original 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Montgomery In and the montgomery In at the boat House, 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: home of the World's Greatest Dribs. Now here's Dan Horde, 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Terry Nelson and UC's head coach Wes Miller on the 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Home of the Bearcats seven hundred WLW. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: It is shell time. Very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Greetings 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: from the original montgomery In, Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horbit, 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, and the star of 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: the show. Let's hear it for you see men's basketball 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: coach Wes Miller. 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: I was hoping you weren't as efficient and proficient as 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: last week because I rehearsed the opener. 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: I was ready because you told me you're gonna. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: Have to start the show off, because you know I 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: got the Bengals thing. Yeah, I'm gonna be a little 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: bit late. So I'm over here in the mirror I'm doing. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: All my stuff is shoke Tom like the whole thing. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Very Let me ask you this question, would you like 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: to be the person that starts the show? 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: No, I can't know. 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: I can't. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: You just did it extremely well. 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: It's got to be special. Let's got You can't just 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 3: throw me out there like the wolves. You can let 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: me work on it. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: I worked on it for a while. 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: You looked in the mirror in order to do that. 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: I try to look like you. I grab my mic 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: Do I do that? 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: But you don't have a glass of wine in front 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: of you, so the coke wouldn't do it from me. 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: That's true. 35 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: That's true. 36 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm strictly a pepsi drinker here at the original Montgomery 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: and So this is our last show before the season begins. 38 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: We've got Bear Cap basketball coming up on Monday night 39 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: and then again on Friday next week, a couple of 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: home games. It begins on Monday night against Western Carolina. 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: I guess so we always ask you a question along 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: these lines at this time of year, But how are 43 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: you feeling this close to the start of the season 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: about your team's readiness to go. 45 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: I think we're a lot more ready than we were 46 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 5: the last we we got together for a radio show. 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: It's been a productive preseason. I think that the players 48 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 5: are ready to get out and do it for real 49 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 5: against somebody with a different Jersey on and it. I 50 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: always get excited this time of year as well, so 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: you know, we're ready for the first game. We've had 52 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: our probably most productive week of practice this week, our 53 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: most spirited week of practice, and that's been good for 54 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 5: all of us players, coaches included. 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you got a haircutter, you just 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: or up at night pulling your hair out. But after 57 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: two non conference games, what are some things you say, Okay, 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: we can build on this, and other things you say, 59 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: you know, we gotta we gotta shortens up a little bit. 60 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: Exhibition games, That's what I say. I'm kind of this 61 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: will be. 62 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: The first non conference but it's a laundry list. You know, 63 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: there's there was in both exhibitions. There's there's certainly some 64 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: things that we were able to point out that were 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: positive that should give us some confidence. 66 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: You know. 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: Honestly, it was more when we did the things we've 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: been practicing and the things that we've spent time on, 69 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: they were really good and that should give the guy's 70 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 5: confidence to keep doing those things. When we straight away 71 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: from those things, it was really bad and in both games, 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 5: and obviously there was more, more good and more stuff 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 5: to build on I think in the first exhibition against 74 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: Michigan and not quite as much in the second. But 75 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 5: I'd say that we got a lot more in terms 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 5: of our preseason development in our second exhibition against Arkansas 77 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: that was way more valuable than the first one. 78 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: So you played exhibition games on the road against the 79 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: number seven ranked team in the country Michigan and the 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: number fourteen ranked team in the country Arkansas. Do you 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: have any idea if any other team in the country 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: tried to do anything like that. I can't imagine another 83 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: team played two more difficult road games in exhibition play. 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 5: I don't and I haven't looked at it, nor do 85 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: I care not to. You know, throw your question to me. 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: It just was opportunity to really develop our team in 87 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 5: the preseason and tear you ask the question to really, 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: you know, try to answer some questions when you have 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 5: a bunch of new, new people that you're putting together, 90 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: to find some real adversity that we can work on 91 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: responding to right away, and then you know, obviously to 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 5: take some of the positive things and build off of 93 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: them or learn how to deal with them. You didn't 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: you can't plan basketball out right. But what I'd liked 95 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 5: is that we got a little bit of everything from 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: those two games, and I think we felt pretty good 97 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: driving back on the bus from ant Arbor. And you 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 5: got to learn in the Big twelve. You know, winning 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: is great and it feels good, and then it should 100 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: on the nights you do it, but you wake up 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: the next day and you turn the page and you 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: focus on getting better, and you focus on winning the 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: details that help you get better, and you have just 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: as much intent after a win as you do at 105 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: any other point. And then when you lose, you can't dwell. 106 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: You got to learn from it. 107 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: You deal with it, and you focus on getting better 108 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: and you have that kind of intent to go win 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 5: the next game. And we got to experience not just 110 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 5: those dynamics, but a lot of stuff that comes. 111 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: With it all. 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: And I thought that was important to do with the 113 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: team that hadn't been through the battles together. I've said 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: this a bunch about this team. We have to be 115 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: intentionally connected as a group on and off the court, 116 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: and we want to play in February like a team 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 5: that's played together for two or three or four years, 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: even though we just came. 119 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: Together this year. That doesn't just happen. 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: You got to go through some stuff, and so the preseason, 121 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 5: whether it's the exhibitions or some stuff we did that 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 5: nobody could see, we have taken them through a little 123 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: bit of adversity. 124 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: That's been positive for us. 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: Speaking of improvements from game to game from last year 126 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: to this year, halveing Zalt. 127 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 4: Has been amazing. His growth. 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: Last year, if you asked him, what do you want 129 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: for dinner, he'll say yes, he didn't know them, only English. 130 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: But he's speaking fluently. 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: He's conversing on the sideline with his teammates, and when 132 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: he's in the game, the game has slowed down to 133 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 3: him to the point where you can put him in 134 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: in in crunch time or in minutes where you need 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: baskets and productivity from the post players, and he's coming 136 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: through for you. 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad when you asked him last year he 138 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: said something because I thought there was time he's supposed 139 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 5: to call out of pick and roll covers and practice 140 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: and I don't hear a damn thing. And you know, 141 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 5: I thought maybe it was a French thing or something, 142 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: because he's also very soft spoken. And I went over 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: to France in May to meet his family because that's important. 144 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: You know that you get to know everybody's family that 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: you're coaching. 146 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: I met his brother and sister, and they are the 147 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 5: most outgoing, like you know, and and how beings. 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: So reserved in an introvert. 149 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 5: So I don't know where he got it from, okay, 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: because his family's not that way. But he is talking better. 151 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 5: But even more importantly, he's really improved. I would say this, 152 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna joke a little bit, but I'm dead serious. 153 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 5: At the same time, he has so much value because 154 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: he knows who he is as a player, like he 155 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 5: understands his role, He understands the things that he does well, 156 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: and he embraces those things very very much, unlike Terry Tonight, 157 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: who knows his role isn't to do the introduction but right, 158 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: very much like Layer exactly exactly. But you know, and 159 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: I think there's there's so much value in players understanding 160 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: who they are where they can be successful. 161 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: We say it all the time. 162 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: We're not saying you're not capable of doing that, but 163 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: you're not as good at doing that as you are 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: something else. And you're not as good at doing that 165 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: as somebody on your team is. So let's play to 166 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: our strengths. Halving's improved a lot, and he's also playing 167 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: to his strengths. 168 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Terry, if you ask an offensive lineman 169 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: what they want for dinner, they say yes as well, 170 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: much like hel being So at the very beginning of 171 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: the show, coach, you said, this has been your best 172 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: week of prap this. Do you think that's because of 173 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: the Arkansas exhibition game? 174 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: Well, when I say our best week, it's been the 175 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: most important week because to me, we've we've had their 176 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: attention in a different way. I thought after the Michigan 177 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: week or the Michigan game the following week, I thought 178 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: their attitudes were good and their work ethic was good. 179 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: I think I said that to you guys in here 180 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: that week, but the intention and the focus that that 181 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: wasn't where it needed to be. And after I said 182 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: this to our staff, I think it was like Tuesday 183 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 5: that week, and I started the bark and holler and 184 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: I said, you know what, why for what? 185 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna let them figure this out the hard way. 186 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: And then I told him, I said, you guys are 187 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: gonna learn, and I wanted to get our butts kicked 188 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: down there. 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: I really did. 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 5: I told I told coach Calipari that we talked a 191 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: couple of nights for the game. I said, Coach, we're 192 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 5: not ready. 193 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: I just watched you. We've been watching your game, you know. 194 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: And then after I talked to him something I really 195 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 5: get our butts kicked because they were seeming pretty ready. 196 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: But I didn't want to get kicked that bad now 197 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: beyond milk. 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: But it was in all in all seriousness, like it's 199 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: different than than a regular season game. I mean, it 200 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: was an opportunity to learn a lesson. We didn't do 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: a lot to try to prepare them forward or correct. 202 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: What was going on. 203 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: And and that's that's been a good way for us 204 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 5: to get their attention this week and they and fairness 205 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: to the kids, they've they've responded. And we had a 206 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: wild film session on Sunday followed by a practice that 207 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: only ended because we ran out of countable athletic related 208 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 5: activity hours. You know where you know, Bill Komar comes out, 209 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: go coach, we have to stop right now. You know 210 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: that type of thing, Yeah, exactly, you know, it was. 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 4: Just blue past stop signs. They were like yield. 212 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: Then we came out the next day and it did again, 213 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: and we we did a morning thing and then a 214 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 5: night thing and Coach, we have to stop right now. 215 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: So it was it was good. Uh, it was good. 216 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: And then you know they I think we've improved this 217 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: week a lot, and that's the goal of the preseason. 218 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: All right, We're going to take a time out. 219 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: We are live at the Original Montgomery in Home of 220 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: the World's Greatest Drips. It's the West Miller Radio Show 221 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: on seven underd WLWA. We're back at the Original Montgomery 222 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: in How of the World's Greatest Drips and the West 223 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: Miller Radio Show. I am eating Montgomery in Saratoga Chips 224 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: the best. I apologize if that's obvious on the air. 225 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: So I was looking at the EP top twenty five. 226 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: Six teams from the Big Twelve are ranked in the 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: preseason poll. Three others, including Cincinnati, are getting votes. Depending 228 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: on which pole that you look at. None of this 229 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: is surprising to me. We know how good the league is, 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: but it did underscore to me that no matter how 231 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: hard you work to build a great roster, it's always 232 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: just going to be difficult to rise to the top 233 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: of this league. 234 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 5: Well, I think number one, it's doable. That's the first 235 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: thing I'd say. So I'm not gonna sit here and 236 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: try to paint some picture that it can't be done. 237 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: That's why we're here. It's what we do. What we do, 238 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: and while we do the work we. 239 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: Do, we'reng But we are in a league where there's 240 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: a commitment. There's a commitment collectively from every program in 241 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: this league to try to do that. So you have 242 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 5: sixteen teams. I can't even keep up anymore, sixteen core. 243 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: We have sixteen programs that all. 244 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 5: In the Big sixteen, in the Big sixteen, Big twelve 245 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: plus four right four. But you have a bunch of 246 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: programs that are very, very committed and value basketball success historically. 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: And obviously there's different levels of that, but you know, 248 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: and that's different than being in the league where there's 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: historical difference or different buy in from a resource standpoint. 250 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 5: This entire league is brought in, which is why and 251 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: we say this in recruiting all the time, this isn't 252 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 5: a pitch. If you take a ten year snapshot of 253 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: the best basketball league in America in every single metric 254 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 5: over the last ten years, whatever one you want to go, 255 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 5: look at that that could have any value it's been 256 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: the Big Twelve. If you take a five year snapshot, 257 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: it's been the Big twelve. If you take a three 258 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: year snapshot, it's been the Big Twelve. And I know 259 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: the SEC had a banner year last year, but in 260 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: any in recent history, it's been our league. And I think, yeah, 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 5: it's going to be difficult to rise up in a 262 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: league or to be at the very top of the 263 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 5: league when it's been that dang good. But won't that 264 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: make it that much more sweet type of thing? 265 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: Then you bring routinely, you bring in officials to come 266 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: in and officiate your scrimmages, and you tell them, hey, 267 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: officiate us like you're going to do in a game, 268 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: call the hand checks. Call this with new rules being 269 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: implemented with the continuation rule, Now, guy if on the gather, 270 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: if he's hit and he gathers that thing, you're going 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: to see an NBA continuation, which more fans don't understand 272 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: because they didn't they didn't know it's a new rule. 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: A guy is gonna take two steps after he got 274 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: touched and he's gonna put the ball in and normally 275 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: you're used to the wave off, and it's gonna be 276 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: a basket and now you get a chance to use 277 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: your challenge, where in other times they would they would challenge. 278 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: No, that's what you're wrong. We can't challenge that. 279 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: Not that challenge I'm telling you get you get challenges now. 280 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can't challenge that. 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: We can't challenge the gather now. 282 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: We can't challenge anything we got. We do get a challenge, 283 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: you get one. 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: If you win it, you're gonna If you win it, 285 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: you get it back. 286 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: And then way if you want them both, you're still out. 287 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: Can you challenge. 288 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: Basically nothing, to be honest. 289 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: I mean you can inbound like out of bound, inbound. 290 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: You can challenge. 291 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 5: You can challenge an out of balance call, and you 292 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 5: can challenge a restricted area. 293 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: Call, meaning. 294 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: Or somebody called a block charge based on the circle. 295 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: So it has to be a secondary defender. You can 296 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: challenge that call. 297 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: Kirk Chris, I would have got two of those in 298 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: the Michigan. 299 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: No, because that wasn't a just a block charge. You 300 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: can't you can't challenge block charge. But you can challenge 301 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 5: a block charge that was based on the restricted area. 302 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 5: So if they call a block and they point to 303 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: the restricted area, you can challenge that not. 304 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: A block point. 305 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: It has to be that specific thing, which I mean 306 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: that didn't even have like so but really and then 307 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: you can challenge goaltending, but only if they call it 308 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: like you can't challenge a play that. 309 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: But that was normally they would go to the monitor 310 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: on a goltend anyway. 311 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: That was that was that was fairly new where they So. 312 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: Now they won't just like they would go to the 313 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: monitor in the last two minutes on out of bounds, 314 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 5: they're not doing that. So what the reason they're doing 315 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 5: this is to try to speed up the play so 316 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: there's not as much stoppage at the end of the game. 317 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: Stop the three man huddles after they went to the monitor, 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: and then the one of them leaves, another one comes 319 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: back in, and then they look and they get in 320 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: in a little tripod and it we're scratching your head 321 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: and what the hell's going? 322 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: Don't why don't they start with all three? That's migrape. 323 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: It's always the two guys and then come on over 324 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: now have all three discuss it. 325 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: And he's pulling his pants up and you know, talking 326 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: about what happened and what you're eating tonight. I don't 327 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: know what the hell were eating and that's just called 328 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: a block all right, Cool, you know twenty three on 329 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: the block, Derek Cat's out outside. Let's stop it. I'm 330 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,119 Speaker 3: getting frustrated. 331 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: I'm getting more frustrated. Number one, what you just described 332 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: it sounds about exactly right. 333 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: I can think it, singing it a lot. 334 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: But in seriousness, you're not you know, the block charge 335 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: thing in the restricted area, like there's two calls a year, 336 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: and you're not going to challenge that and lose your 337 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: one challenge? 338 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: Okay, out of bounds? Right, this is what this is 339 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: what I brought up. 340 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: So what happens if I'm standing on the sideline in 341 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: the first half with ten minutes left in the first 342 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 5: half and I watched the player on the other team 343 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: step out of bounds. 344 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm sorry they called. 345 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 5: I'm sorry they call out of bounds on us, and 346 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: I saw that we didn't step out. 347 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: Of bounds like that kind of a challenge. 348 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: What if the camera angle can't see what I saw, Well, 349 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 5: then they're gonna say, not enough evidence, you lose your 350 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: challenge and you better save that for the last two minutes. 351 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 5: And now all the stuff they would go just get 352 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: right to get the play right. Now you have to 353 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 5: have a challenge to do it. And what if they 354 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: make two or three bad calls on a deflected ball 355 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: or something and they can't go to the monitor. 356 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: All they've done, in my opinion, is make it. 357 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: More difficult on the referees right and make it more 358 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: likely that they don't get the play right. 359 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: And to me, that is idiotic. 360 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: And I find the whole process do things to make 361 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: the game better, not make the game worse. And so 362 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: I loved the idea of a challenge like the NBA 363 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: where you could really challenge real calls, you know, and 364 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: then you could get your challenges back if you get 365 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 5: them right. And then so album was like, yeah, that's great, 366 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: that's fun new strategy. But I'll tell you what, whatever 367 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 5: they rolled out, it's worse. 368 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't make it. It doesn't make sense. 369 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: You're not even gonna use a challenge because you you 370 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: better save it for that into game scenario where they 371 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 5: used to review it on their own. And so that's frustrating, 372 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: and it's not fair to the officials either. 373 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: Fairness down. You know, it's easy to pick them on 374 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: the radio show, but. 375 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 5: It's it's not fair. It makes their jobs harder. Too, 376 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 5: just like the freedom of movement thing. I've said this 377 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: to officials before when they started, you know, talking about 378 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: freedom of movement before and the and the gather. I've 379 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: asked them, do you understand the rule? And a lot 380 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: of them that they're honest, will say, Hell, we don't 381 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: understand it. We just call blocks because we don't. 382 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: We don't even know what it's not. 383 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 5: We're making it more difficult on the people officiating the game, 384 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: and so then we're more frustrating when the games have 385 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: officiated and it doesn't go our way. And so again 386 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 5: we've made some big mistakes with the rules. Uh in 387 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: college basketball, these changes I know you might you may 388 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: have seemed excited, but as you look into them, they're 389 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: actually not real exciting. 390 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: So here's the deal, though, with every league that has replay, 391 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: it always starts with just a little bit, and that 392 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: it increases in order to get the calls right ultimately, 393 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: So that's what's going to happen. You'll put up with 394 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: it this year and it's going to stink, and there'll 395 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: be games where they get it wrong and it hurts 396 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: one team. 397 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: Or the other. Well, next year they'll fix it. 398 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 5: I'll be all anything this year if it favors Cincinnati, 399 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: I'm with you there, yeah. 400 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: And you would know that you started on Triple A ball, 401 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: they didn't have instant replay back where you were on buses. 402 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, definitely, But in many sports, I mean it's 403 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: not that wasn't that long ago that Major League Baseball 404 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: did not have replay And now they're you know, doing 405 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: the signal to go to the headphones and check the reviews, 406 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: and they do get the calls have been better. It 407 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: slows down the game a little bit, but they get 408 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: it right. 409 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: Coach, In these two exhibition games, you played up to 410 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: twelve players that are capable of playing. So we know 411 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: that you may or may not trim that down. But 412 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: how do you determine that When guys are having good practices. 413 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: It's spirited and you know at some point you're gonna 414 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: have to trim it down. But you have to use 415 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: these non conference games to sort of get everybody up 416 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: to speed. 417 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: Or we played eleven guys minutes, right, I mean, I 418 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 5: think we played two guys minutes. At the very very 419 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 5: end of the Arkansas we were playing eleven guys. Significantly 420 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: in both trimmage. I'll tell you what we had that 421 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 5: that that film session after the Arkansas game, and the 422 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: first comment that I made was all this equal opportunity. 423 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: That's done now, so you know. 424 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 5: You know, we basically for the most part, we're playing 425 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 5: guys equal minutes. I didn't I made a couple of 426 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 5: subs in the Arkansas game to get people out because 427 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: of plays that I just thought were unacceptable. 428 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: To make a point, but I didn't even sub in 429 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 4: the games. I didn't care. 430 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: I just wanted to see us put some different lineups 431 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: out and have a chance to learn our team and 432 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: let guys play. That's over now, Like we're going to 433 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 5: try to be strategic about minutes and lineups, and I 434 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 5: think that does make practice a little more competitive when 435 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: people feel like that's real. 436 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Celestie missed some time due to injury, but he 437 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: played in the Arkansas game. How is he coming along 438 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: in terms of you know, his stamini and his ability 439 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: to be a significant role players. 440 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: He's coming along. 441 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: I think we've done a nice job as a staff 442 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: and made this clear to him. 443 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: You have to put in perspective, right. 444 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: He didn't play basketball from you know, the basically the 445 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: early July until two weeks ago, and so when you 446 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 5: haven't played live basketball for that long a period of time, 447 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 5: even if you're a fifth year senior and a terrific 448 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 5: player like Jalen Is, it's gonna take a little time 449 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 5: to get back in the flow. It's been great to 450 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: have him in practices the last couple of weeks. It 451 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: was great to get him some minutes in our in 452 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 5: a real exhibition game. But he is not, in my opinion, 453 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 5: thirty percent of the effectiveness that he's going to be 454 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 5: as a player, and we're gonna have to kind of 455 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 5: work him through it here over the next month because 456 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: when we get to Big twelve play, he's got to 457 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 5: be a major part of what we're doing. He's, you know, versatile, 458 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: he's six' seven, plus he's got a plus wingspand he's really. 459 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: Bright he's really. 460 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 5: Skilled everybody because of his experience At baylor last, year 461 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: knows about his. 462 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: Shooting. Right he was a great, shoot one of. 463 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: The better catch and shoot shooters in our. League he's 464 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: really good with the. BASKETBALL i think we can put 465 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: him in pick and. ROLL i think in, space he's 466 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: really good. Downhill he can guard three or four. Positions 467 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: now he's going to be incredibly important to our. Team 468 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 5: but you're looking at a guy right now that's just 469 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: not quite there. 470 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: Yet he knows. It we're going to work him back 471 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: in over. Time. 472 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: Here my goal is by middle Of december he's starting 473 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: to come into his own thirty. 474 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: Seconds before we go to. Break coach too much as, 475 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: given much as. Required you've been very demanding on this, 476 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: team more than any of your four previous. Teams is 477 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: it because you believe you really have a chance this? 478 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: Year? WELL, i uh you in practice this, week come this. 479 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: Week i've been demanding this. 480 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 5: Week they looked at me this week like who is 481 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 5: this crazy? Person a couple of, Times but Uh, NO. 482 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 4: I THINK i THINK i have very very high. 483 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 5: EXPECTATIONS i think very highly of the young people that we're, 484 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: coaching not just as, players but what they're capable of 485 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: dealing with and what they're capable of. 486 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: Becoming and it's Gonna i've said this a. 487 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 5: Bunch this, is by, far without a, doubt the most 488 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 5: Fun i've had coaching Since i've been At cincinnati is 489 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 5: this coaching this. Group the goal IS i want to 490 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 5: be able to tell you all That february In march 491 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: THAT i still feel that, Way but Today i'm having 492 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: a lot of fun because they want to be, coached 493 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: they want to be, good and they're allowing themselves to be. 494 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: Coached All, Right we're going to take a time out 495 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: when we come. Back questions from the. Audience we're live 496 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: at the Original Montgomery In home of the World's Greatest. 497 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: Ribs it's The West Miller Radio show on seven HUNDRED. 498 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: Wlw Rachel montgomery In home of The World's Greatest ribs 499 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: and The West Miller Radio show here on seven HUNDRED. 500 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: Wlw looking ahead to next. Week No Scott Zaderfield show 501 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: On tuesday because the football team does not have a 502 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: game next, week but we've got plenty of basketball for. 503 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: You a game On, Monday Coach Miller show On, thursday 504 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: another game On friday of next. Week top for questions 505 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: from the. Audience elliott has removed the sling this. Week 506 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: that's good to, see and he's ready with a. 507 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Question, so a lot of the guys that come to 508 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: your program were probably the best on their high school, 509 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: team so they think they they're that. 510 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 4: Guy how do you get rid of them? 511 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: Mentality if you have to move them to like a 512 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: role player bench. 513 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: Position good. 514 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 5: QUESTION a lot of the guys now transferred right or, 515 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 5: in Like Jeordie rodriguez's place is playing high level professional 516 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 5: basketball In. Europe so it's not as much as maybe 517 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: it used to Be. Elliott but there are are true. 518 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 5: Freshmen you, Know sean And, keishawn they were in that 519 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: role a year, ago and SO i think that's for 520 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: a true freshman that that's just a process of, learning 521 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: and you can see true freshmen going through. That but 522 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: it's not as much as it used to be with 523 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: all the. 524 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Transferring time for question from the assistant coach from what 525 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 2: section is it? Again to seven the assistant coach in 526 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: section TWO o seven, COACH i appreciate. 527 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 6: THAT i have two. Questions one with My elise hat, 528 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: on just because it's the day Before, HALLOWEEN i just 529 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 6: have to, ask And i'm sure your mother is, Listening 530 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 6: so any texted proof would be. Great Best halloween costume 531 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 6: you had as Young. 532 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: Wes, oh that's a good. Question that is a good. 533 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: Question there's somewhere my brain hadn't gone in a long long. 534 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 4: TIME i was Crocodile. 535 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: Dundee, WOW i would give good money for that. 536 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: PHOTO i used to just love that WHEN i was really. 537 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: LITTLE i used to love the, knife you, know like 538 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 5: that's not a, knife that's not? 539 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: Right, YEAH i. Did that was it was a pretty 540 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: Good it was his, Name Paul. Hogan, yeah that was. 541 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: GOOD i wasn't. 542 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: Bad that's probably. 543 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 6: Attention wes's. Mother if you could send that To, lauren 544 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: we'd appreciate it, Anyways nona or so basketball related, now so, 545 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 6: transfers we obviously had. That we had somebody come in From, 546 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 6: Butler Dan skillings Or, baylor, sorry came in From, baylor 547 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 6: and Then Dan skillings went To. Baylor we have somebody 548 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: coming From West. Virginia is there some given Like Dan 549 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 6: skillings doesn't Tell baylor what all we are schemes And 550 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 6: jalen doesn't Like. 551 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: Team l from the top. 552 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 6: Row if the person remembers the, schemes what is the 553 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 6: un given about that from moving from team to. 554 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 5: TEAM i think there's a lot of sharing that, occurs, 555 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 5: RIGHT i, mean it's just human. Nature it's. Goods it's 556 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: actually a good. Question i've done that with With jalen for. 557 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: Sure hey tell me about how they do things, there 558 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 5: AND i do that with all of our. Transfers you, 559 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: know how do they run practice where you came from 560 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: or how did they handle this. SITUATION i think IT'S i, 561 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: MEAN i love, INFORMATION i love learning, things and you 562 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: KNOW i was doing that today where we were installing 563 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: A i shouldn't say that on. 564 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: Them we were stolling something. 565 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 5: Today we were stalling some kind of defense today AND 566 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 5: i was Asking jalen in the question about it because 567 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: it was similar to something he played. BEFORE i probably 568 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 5: Have Western carolina trying to research defenses. Tonight but but, 569 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 5: YEAH i think you, know, hey, listen we remember you 570 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 5: played something like that when you Were. 571 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: Baylor what were the, rules what you like about, it 572 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 4: what was? 573 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 5: Difficult, yeah that stuff's for sure goes, on And i'm 574 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: sure the same thing goes on when kids leap our. 575 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: PROGRAM i think the same. Conversations you're, Natural brian. 576 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 7: Coach you've mentioned several times that you really like the 577 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 7: exhibition games for what you get out of, them and 578 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 7: you would actually be a fan. 579 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: Of more so if LIKE i think you said four 580 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: in your, presser but you, know. 581 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 5: We have like five weeks of true. PRESEASON i mean 582 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: four or five is what i'd. Say if you could 583 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: play one a, week and maybe not the first week 584 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: because you're trying to you're not probably ready physically to 585 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: handle a real. Game but if we could play one a, 586 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: WEEK i just think there's so Much we get so 587 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: much out of, that and the product would be so 588 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 5: much better at the start of the season for college, 589 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 5: basketball because you're not going to get a competitive advantage 590 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: if everybody can do, it AND i think all the 591 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 5: players and coaches would. Agree you, know you get to 592 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 5: this point after think about, this, guys in what in 593 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: what professional league in the world do you go through 594 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: five weeks of preseason and barely play against anybody? ELSE 595 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 5: i mean THERE'S i, mean so what what what sense 596 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: does it make what we're. 597 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 4: Doing you, know if we follow the same rules of 598 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: how we. 599 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 5: Evolve in college, athletics we'll go from from two to 600 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 5: thirty five or something. 601 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: Like you, know there'll be no. 602 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: Bridge, right but but but but, NO i think it 603 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: would make college basketball better In november And. DECEMBER i 604 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: think it would make the preseason more. PRODUCTIVE i know 605 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: it would be better for players and coaches. 606 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: To follow that. Up how would YOU. 607 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 7: I know you say that there's no real like design 608 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: of what you're looking. For you kind of have to 609 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: take teams that are willing to do what you're trying 610 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 7: to do as. Well but how would you handle if 611 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 7: you were able to have four? Games would you have 612 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 7: would you be going more road games for the? Adversity 613 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 7: would you mix a home game? In would do you 614 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 7: have any ideas of how you would like it to? 615 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: Go, yeah it would make sense to probably just break 616 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: into two and. 617 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: TWO i mean if. 618 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: You have had your way and try to play against 619 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 5: different styles like when WE i didn't get into this, 620 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 5: much you know in press, conferences but you Know michigan switches, 621 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 5: everything you, Know dusty the last couple of years when 622 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: It's Florida atlantic and At, michigan you know they've they've 623 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: been a great switching team and sometimes switch all five, 624 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: ways like they switch with the five. Man sometimes they 625 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: do some creative stuff that's almost like a match zone 626 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 5: to keep the five at. Home you know that you're 627 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: going to see that throughout the. Season maybe not all the, 628 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 5: time BUT i was excited to scrimmage him Because i'm, 629 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: like that'd be great to see and that's so much 630 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: different than how we. Play it'd be great to go 631 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: against that. Early so when we see that in our 632 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 5: league and there's at least one team in our league 633 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 5: that plays that, way but probably. More that's not the 634 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 5: first time we prepared for, that you, know, like give 635 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: you an, example we Played. Baylor baylor played that way last. 636 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 5: Year they were switching five ways at, times like and 637 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: similar to What dusty does At. Michigan we had a 638 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: one day prep For baylor because of the way the 639 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: schedule was laid, Out so the first time we'd really 640 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: been able to dive into that since the preseason we 641 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 5: did it in practice a little, bit was with one 642 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: day before a league. 643 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: Game you, know that's. 644 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 5: Difficult but being able to Play michigan this, year Whether 645 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 5: baylor plays that way again or somebody else in the 646 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: league or multiple now we've. 647 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: Seen that kind of. 648 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: Defense LIKE i think you maybe you'd want to play 649 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 5: against somebody that plays a lot his, Own like there's 650 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: there's some benefits to. That you, know when we play 651 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 5: against ourselves every, day you try to every, coach we're 652 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: all trying to find an element of playing against different 653 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 5: pick and roll, coverages playing against different screening, coverages playing 654 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: against different styles of. 655 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: Defense but you're also. 656 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: Trying to build who you, are and so you end 657 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: up planning it's the same thing all the, time and 658 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: when you play against people that are, different you learn 659 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: a lot and grow a, lot and so, again i'd 660 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: love to be able to do that every. 661 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: Week Karen Good, evening. 662 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 8: COACH i looked at the schedule for the non conference, 663 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 8: games especially the first three, ones and it is nice 664 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 8: to see that we're going to be challenged and this 665 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 8: will help us when we get To big twelve. Play 666 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 8: Western carolina is, Great Georgia state is, great coached by 667 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 8: Coach hayes who was AT xaber for four years and 668 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 8: he was the interim head coach. There he won an 669 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 8: n championship. There And i'm very familiar with Coach grant 670 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 8: up In. Dayton you got THE i seventy Five Crossout 671 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 8: Crosstown Interstate shootout this. Year SO i think we're gonna 672 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 8: be challenged in those first three, games and Then Mount 673 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 8: Saint mary's and then of, course of Course louisville with 674 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 8: on The river and that's A cincinnati connection. There SO 675 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 8: i think that we would be challenged and prepared going 676 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 8: Into big twelve. 677 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: Play, yeah thank, you And Good, Evening, hey it was by, design, 678 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 5: Right you're trying to use non con to, Prepare you're 679 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 5: trying to make sure non conference games give you put 680 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 5: you in the best position for Selection, sunday and so 681 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: there's very strategic for. 682 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: Sure All, right we're going to take a time. Out 683 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: more questions from the audience when we. Continue this is 684 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: The West Miller Radio. Show we're live at the Original Montgomery, 685 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: en home of the world's greatest rips in seven HUNDRED 686 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: wlw the. Show thanks To Joe, strecker our, engineer for 687 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: setting everything up. Tonight greatly appreciate. It let's see if 688 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: we've got a few more questions from the. Audience brian 689 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: is back for round. 690 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 7: Two, coach you said something at the end of your 691 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 7: answer to my last question that actually sparked another. Question 692 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 7: you're talking about how you're trying to change things when 693 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 7: you practice against, yourself you're seeing you don't face your 694 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 7: own defense all year, long so you have to try 695 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 7: to prepare for other. Things how do you balance that 696 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 7: so that you're not setting yourself back for what you're 697 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 7: trying to do and implement for your own, defense you, 698 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 7: know and. 699 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: It goes both, ways, right because you're also trying to 700 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: defend things you don't. 701 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: Do that's a delicate balancing. Act, AGAIN i think in the. 702 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 5: Preseason the first thing you're trying to do is establish your. 703 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 5: Identity you're trying to build your, foundation and you don't 704 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 5: ever want to veer away from. That but you, know 705 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 5: whether we're in shell and we play out of a 706 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 5: certain sequence. 707 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: That we're not going to run on, offense but it. 708 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 5: Can help build offensive habits of screening or passing or, 709 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 5: movement but you are going to have to guard those 710 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 5: sequences throughout a basketball. Season like that's something that that's 711 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: very common in what we. Do we try to, get 712 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 5: like that scout team to maybe run different offense against 713 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 5: us than we run against each. Other we try to 714 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 5: get them to play different, defense but sometimes they can't 715 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 5: give the real kind of. Resistance so we don't do 716 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 5: a lot of, it but we try to do enough 717 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: so when you're in that one day prep for a 718 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 5: league game and you see something that you don't see, 719 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: often you've at least addressed it at some, point like 720 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: it's not the first time they've heard this is how 721 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 5: we ATTACK, x or this is how we defend why you. 722 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 4: Know that type of. Thing and so that's the. 723 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 5: Fun part of coaching is putting that puzzle. Together when 724 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: you build out a thirty practice. 725 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: Preseason you've built a roster full of superheroes when they 726 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: all get their own, superpower but multiple positions they can. 727 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: Play WHEN i see a guy Like Bobba miller who 728 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: literally can bring the ball, up initiate, offense make plays 729 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: for other, guys how will you use him going? Forward 730 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 3: when it seems like he's a guy that you can 731 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: basically run offense, from if not for the whole, game 732 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: stretches of the game where you can run it through. 733 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: Him he's been fascinating to, coach and you, know to, 734 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 5: DATE i really commend his work. Ethic he's been getting 735 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: up in the mornings and doing extra work over the 736 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 5: last month with our, Staff like we were able to 737 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 5: identify a couple of things that were holding him back 738 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: that were kind of fundamental, things and our staff has 739 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 5: been in the gym with him almost every morning as 740 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: long as you, know we're within rules, right that type of. 741 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 5: Thing but and he's really embraced, that and you can 742 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 5: see his game. Improving you can see him embracing some 743 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: of the things we do, defensively and he's really. Improving 744 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 5: but one of our challenges with the guy that it's six' 745 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 5: eleven and can feasibly do everything on. The court is 746 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 5: figuring out the things that he can do the best 747 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: and figuring out how he can be in position to 748 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 5: do those. Things consistently and that's been a PROCESS that i, 749 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 5: You know i've been open about with him and his 750 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 5: representatives in the summer and certainly throughout this process is 751 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 5: like the, summer terry we tried him in like different 752 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 5: every week we did something, DIFFERENT today i want you 753 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 5: to play this, this week you're playing, this position or focus. 754 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: On this the next week we do something. Totally different 755 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 5: and we were trying to. Learn him AND then i 756 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 5: was able to Go to spain to watch him play 757 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: For the spanish national Team, in august and My girlfriend 758 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 5: LAUREN and i were there and watched two games in, 759 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 5: three DAYS and i got to watch all his practices 760 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 5: over that time, as WELL and i learned a, lot 761 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: there like trying, to learn, you know seeing him comfortable 762 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: in that environment and where why he. Was comfortable so 763 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 5: it's been a process, with him but he does have 764 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: this ability to affect the game on both ends in 765 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 5: like so many. Different ways he's going to be really 766 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 5: fun for our fans. To watch and then it's going 767 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: to be fun to watch how he continues to evolve throughout. 768 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: The year you've got quite a few players with internet. 769 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: National backgrounds excuse me on. The roster were they simply 770 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: the best available players that you were able to get 771 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: to Commit to cincinnati or is there something about the 772 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: way the game is being played in other parts of 773 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: the world that you thought would be good for. 774 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: Your, TEAM well i think for a. 775 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: LONG time i don't want to, put exact but over 776 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 5: a decade and. Some change, you know we started looking 777 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 5: into the international market for recruiting back before you got 778 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: real popular like it did the last, two years, you 779 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 5: know before everybody was, doing that because we were trying 780 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: to just find a way to, be different not to just, 781 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: recruit internationally but to look for a difference there in my, 782 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 5: previous job and so we build. Inroads there we feel very, 783 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 5: confident Recruiting especially europe and some. Other areas so there's 784 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 5: a confidence there in a comfort of kind of where 785 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 5: these guys, have Played Like jeordie rodriguezho's coming straight FROM 786 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 5: The acb League. IN spain i MEAN that's i watched 787 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: those games live over, The years i've watched them. ON 788 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 5: television i know players and coaches in, that league like 789 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 5: you know. HE'S played i understand the level he's coming 790 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 5: from and how. It translates but the real answer to 791 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 5: your question, is no there's not wasn't some strategic let's 792 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 5: go get as many. International players we're just looking for 793 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 5: the right players That pitt cincinnati and the international recruiting 794 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 5: is something we're, familiar with but by, the way now 795 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 5: it's becoming so much more prevalent because of. The money 796 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 5: all these kids that weren't coming over before all, coming 797 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 5: now and so, you see it's not just, our roster 798 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: but just look at, international basketball throughout our international players throughout. 799 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 5: College basketball it's like it's multiplied by. Enormous amounts, so. 800 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: Well it's also one of the Reasons why gonzaga has 801 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: been so good for. So long typically they've kind of 802 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 2: had their pick of some of the best, international players 803 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: and it's one of the reasons why they have consistently 804 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: BEEN an ncaa turn team and in some seasons one 805 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: of the very best teams in. 806 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 5: The country they would be the Example Of saint mary's 807 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 5: would be another one example of teams that invested in 808 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 5: that a long. 809 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 4: Time ago and have been. 810 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 5: Very consistent but again in today's world the last couple, 811 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 5: of years it's not as much of an advantage anymore 812 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 5: because it's Common The, big twelve, for examples Recruiting, in 813 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 5: europe the way that we Recruit The nike peach jam in. 814 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 5: THE summer, i, mean yeah you're you're gonna see international 815 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 5: players all over our. 816 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: League busy summer. 817 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: This SUMMER if i wanted to catch up, with YOU 818 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: there's i can Either text ashley and find out what's 819 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 3: going on, with you your. PERSONAL assistant i Can Text, 820 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: bill komar your chief, of staff or there's a, C 821 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 3: option i can Get on lauren's face of, her Page 822 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: her instagram and notice that she's like toasting on some 823 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 3: beach somewhere because you took. Her somewhere she did her own, 824 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: women's stress but you took her with you. 825 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: To go to all. 826 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: These places you have seven people that, are international and 827 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: why was it important for you to visit all of 828 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 3: these places and actually go sit in the living rooms 829 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: of the parents that, You recruited and she was sitting, 830 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: over there, you know. 831 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: Making sure she's documenting everything. For, you yeah she's laughing 832 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 4: pretty good. Right now he called. Her out you got. Her, 833 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 4: terry no. 834 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 5: Uh yeah she went with me, three times uh internationally 835 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: for work Trips and i'd work and. 836 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 4: She'd play, you know it. Was good. 837 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 5: It was we Were in switzerland for the Unit Teen 838 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 5: world championships In early july and she did come to 839 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 5: two games and, SHE went I think i'm good now, 840 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 5: right right. 841 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 4: She went shopping, Or something, but. 842 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 5: No it was. 843 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 4: Very important. 844 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 5: You know, number one, you know the scouting, is important 845 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 5: so you got to make the efforts to get over 846 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: there and. See guys and then, number two like getting 847 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 5: out to meet families and see where players. ARE from 848 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 5: i think it allows you to coach them on a. 849 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 5: Different level as, you mentioned, you know you want to 850 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 5: be able to drive and coach guys extremely hard so 851 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 5: that you can get the most out. Of THEM then 852 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 5: i found with today's, young person it's no different than 853 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 5: YOU and i, you know but today's young person wants 854 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: to know that you're invested in. 855 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 4: You care where in our. 856 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 5: Generation it was, just you your your parents told you 857 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 5: do what the heck. To, coach period you found that 858 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 5: you care because they know that that's. 859 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 4: That's right so like it's not that you can coach any. 860 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 5: Less, Hard, now uh you might not be able to 861 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 5: do some of the same things because you'll get run 862 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 5: run out of, the program, you know that type. Of 863 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 5: thing but, but uh but they still want it to 864 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 5: be held the. High standards they want a lot demanded, 865 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 5: of them but they want to know that you care and. 866 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: You're INVESTED and i think. 867 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 5: Going and meeting people and understanding where, THEY'RE from i 868 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 5: think it allows you to coach them a. 869 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: Little harder that's just that's just. 870 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: One reason the university put out a news release today 871 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: Saying That jalen haynes had accessible knee. Surgery recently h 872 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: how do things stand with him? 873 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 5: GOING forward i wanted to give a shout Out To brett, 874 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 5: rye back our sid. 875 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 4: For basketball brett's in. The, house yeah there. You go 876 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 4: he's great to. 877 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: Have it he's part of the university and part of the. 878 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: Basketball program we were in a press conference the other 879 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 5: day and somebody asked a Question About, jalen Haynes and, 880 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: i'm like if we've, RELEASED anything i don't want to 881 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 5: talk out of. Turn here so, you know point to 882 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 5: the passer for the. Assist, There No, jalen uh, you 883 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 5: know had knee surgery that if there's any down or the, 884 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 5: entire preseason, that's it and there's no way around it's a. 885 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 5: Big downer, He, was oh He's a bearcat and you 886 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 5: guys will see that at. Some, point man he just 887 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 5: old school like he could have Played on. TERRY'S teams 888 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 5: i think you got. That sense and he was bringing 889 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 5: a lot to. Our TEAM but i don't know what the. 890 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 5: Timetable is it's not going to. Be, soon uh but 891 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 5: there's a chance he could be back. This year and if, 892 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 5: if not, you know you HOPE the infli will do 893 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 5: the right thing and, give him give him another year. 894 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 2: Of Eligibility, and terry you actually have some sad news 895 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: about somebody from your era As a bearcat player who. 896 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 3: Recently, PASSED yeah i see a table full of guys 897 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: that are working in the equipment room. And managers the 898 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: manager on my team in nineteen Ninety two Final Fourteen 899 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: jeff horner passed Away on october. Twentieth complications he had 900 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: a congestive heart FAILURE. From afib, get checked, drink water 901 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: get your. Weight down it was something that caught us all. 902 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: Off guard, you know we were the guy that we 903 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: hung out, every week had a cold one And talk. 904 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 3: Ucy basketball he Loved his, ucy basketball so real. Miss Him, 905 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 3: NEXT thursday i won't. Be Here steve lougan will. Be 906 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: here i'll be at, the funeral. 907 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: All right, All Right. Peter jeff he definitely continued to 908 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: love his bear cast after working with you back in the. 909 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: Early nineties frequent emails with questions about. 910 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 4: The team he will. 911 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: Be missed that is going to do it for our, 912 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: show tonight thanks to everybody who came out to The 913 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: original montgomery and we've got some stuff to. Give away 914 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: if you've been listening on, the radio thanks for. Tuning 915 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 2: in is In The West Miller radio show on SEVEN 916 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: hundred wlw