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Speaker 1: for Bengals Steelers. Okay, I am more than okay with

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Speaker 1: what the Bengals are doing with Logan Wilson, and you

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Speaker 1: Everybody's pissed at the coaching staff. Everybody's pissed at the coach.

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Speaker 1: he's been all right. It's been okay. If this team

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Speaker 1: Logan Wilson, good draft pick, good player. How many plays

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Speaker 1: that's un Bengal like. What is Bengal like? Logan Wilson's

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Speaker 1: All right, the Bengals, there's been a surge of optimism

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Speaker 2: King favored Dongles twenty six twenty four, same score over Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 12: in the soccer world. He's done a good job just

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Speaker 12: at stabilizing, at getting guys back to putting in an

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Speaker 12: effort which has to be said they're gonna give Cincinnati

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Speaker 12: a good goal for it. You know, despite not having

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Speaker 12: much to play, they're playing for jobs. Guys are playing

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Speaker 12: for next season.

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Speaker 10: There's a couple of.

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Speaker 12: Guys who are doing all right. They're they're gonna give

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Speaker 12: c Cincinnati a good goal for this. So they're not

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Speaker 12: gonna lay down. Says they're going to be a walkover

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Speaker 12: as you step into two playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Sc Cincinnati's home record isn't awful eight victories, four draw

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Speaker 1: five draws this season, Yet Dave, I think they've played

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Speaker 1: unevenly in their own building. Any idea why, Wow, it's tough.

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Speaker 10: It's so tough.

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Speaker 12: I do feel like, yes, Cincinnati, they're seeing that when

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Speaker 12: they click, and I can't put it down to like

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Speaker 12: a home more a way. I feel as though when

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Speaker 12: they click though, watch out. But if they're not click seen,

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Speaker 12: then all of a sudden you can get them, you

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Speaker 12: can get at them. And and I bet bat Newton,

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna chat. I'm gonna sit down with Pat newon tomorrow.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna chat with him. And Pat is so open,

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Speaker 12: which is is just one of the you know, there's

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Speaker 12: many attributes that I really admire about Pat noon that's.

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Speaker 2: One of them.

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Speaker 10: He'll tell us straight. But I think that's one of them.

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Speaker 10: Is the consistency of the team, team.

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Speaker 12: Style that they want to play. But what they have

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Speaker 12: at the end of the day, when the when it's

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Speaker 12: not quite happening, they've got individual brilliance. And I still

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Speaker 12: give creditson managers for bringing out the individual brilliance. You know,

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Speaker 12: some managers, you know, might have a top player in

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Speaker 12: their team but not be getting the best out of them.

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Speaker 12: Patt Nowonon is so when the style is not quite happening,

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Speaker 12: he still has a couple of I call them heavy hitters.

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Speaker 12: It's got a couple of heavy hitters and the team

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Speaker 12: of course at Vander you know that can that can deliver.

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I don't think Homer away. I don't think it makes

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Speaker 12: much of a difference. I don't think these guys are

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Speaker 12: overawed when they, you know, ohm and feeling the pressure.

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Speaker 12: I just think it's a matter of when it clicks

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Speaker 12: and when it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Pat Newonan was the coach of the year or two

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Speaker 1: years ago. I think this has been his best coaching job.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree, Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he's he tacks all the boxes and I think

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Speaker 12: the box that he takes the best is he tells

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Speaker 12: guys straight. And granted I'm not on the training ground

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Speaker 12: all the time. I actually played with Pat for a

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Speaker 12: short period of time in Colorado, and I know Pat

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Speaker 12: in terms of he'll tell you straight, and he'll tell

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Speaker 12: you straight without feeling as though you have to turn

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Speaker 12: your back on him and think, you know, kind of

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Speaker 12: screw you, I'm out of here. He'll tell you you

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Speaker 12: know when you're doing well, and you know when you're

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Speaker 12: not doing well. And I don't think there's as many coaches,

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Speaker 12: I don't think there's as many characters in the game

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Speaker 12: as Pat Newman that delivers it that way, and I

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Speaker 12: think it's missed.

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Speaker 10: So I think that's one of.

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Speaker 12: His skill sets that he can't hide it. He needs

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Speaker 12: to tell you, you know, which is admirable.

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Speaker 1: Ross Smiths MLS match analyst for Apple TV MLS Season Pass.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of whether they're the two or the three, FC

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is in the playoffs the East. Last year it

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Speaker 1: felt like the Big Three and then the postseason began

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Speaker 1: and the Eastern Conference got turned on its head. What

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Speaker 1: do you expect this year?

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Speaker 12: Eastern Conferences by far the better conference by far the

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Speaker 12: better conference. However, Vancouver coming out on the other side

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Speaker 12: with Thomas Mueller Thomas, but they haven't lost yet. And

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Speaker 12: and the Germany has come across after spending his entire

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Speaker 12: career career with Bayern Munich. He has been sensational, so

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Speaker 12: watch out for him, watch out for son On with LAFC,

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Speaker 12: it's the same. The effect of those two players coming

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Speaker 12: into their team is something else. But still the Eastern Conference,

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Speaker 12: you know, right the way through, the teams that are

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Speaker 12: making the playoffs are.

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Speaker 10: A different level.

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Speaker 12: However, there's a couple of teams that are having a

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Speaker 12: dip right now, and Orlando's one of them. So for

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Speaker 12: Orlando right now, it's shaken up that they could say, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 12: that's a good matchup. And even though Orlando came in

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Speaker 12: to your building, to Cincinnati's building a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 12: and I thought deserved three points, they're weekends, they've got injuries,

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Speaker 12: they're not looking like themselves, which is a horrible team

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Speaker 12: to play against. Anyways, I think if you're an FC

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati fan, you don't mind taking on Orlando in the

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Speaker 12: first rounds if that's the matchup. But whenever team comes

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Speaker 12: out of the Eastern Conference. They've done well because that

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Speaker 12: is a tough conference.

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Speaker 1: Right now feels much more wide open. And that's Philadelphia team.

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Speaker 1: It felt like every time they needed to win in

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Speaker 1: the supporter shield race, they did. And so I want

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Speaker 1: to watch Pat noon and coach against his former organization.

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Speaker 1: We will see first things for wrap up the two

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Speaker 1: seed with a win on Saturday night against Montreal six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: MLS season pass, Apple TV Ross. Awesome to have you man,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 13: Well, greed to hear you. Thanks for having me on always.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. FC Cincinnati season regular season finale

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Speaker 1: at six o'clock on Saturday night against Montreal. It's them

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Speaker 1: or Miami for the two Miami and Cincinnati. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we're tied in points. FC Cincinnati would win a tiebreaker

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Speaker 1: if both ended up tied, but the Orange and Blue

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Speaker 1: can wrap up the two seed with a three point

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Speaker 1: result on Saturday evening six pm. The match, I believe

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Speaker 1: that is a Fox Sports thirteen sixty broadcast. If I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken. On the ring, I think Kentucky plays. See

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Speaker 1: these are the things I should know as an employee

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Speaker 1: the radio station. But here's this is why this is

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Speaker 1: what separates me from everybody else. I will make the

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Speaker 1: rest of this segment sound clunky so I could look

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Speaker 1: it up in real time. Pull this up Kentucky. Kentucky

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Speaker 1: plays Texas at seven. That's not going to go well

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Speaker 1: from work stoops, so that moves the fc Cincinnati radio

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Speaker 1: broadcast to Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The game starts at six,

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Speaker 1: so you'll hear Tommy and Kevin at five thirty.

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Speaker 10: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we found out bad news about a UC Bearcat

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Speaker 1: basketball player that I think was going to be and

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Speaker 1: could still be, I guess a factor this season. That

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Speaker 1: and the football situation as the Bearcats get set to

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Speaker 1: hit the road with our guy, Chad Brundle.

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Speaker 5: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: athletes at all levels. Schedule and appointment online at UCHealth

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Speaker 6: dot com. On Bridgetown Road, there's an accident at Ebenezer Road.

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Speaker 6: Another accident on Hamilton at Stevens Avenue. That one is

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Speaker 6: south of Compton Road on laid Lawn. Another accident west

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Speaker 6: of Paddock Road. And northbound Redding Road. One more accident

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Speaker 6: after Dale Road on that ezelic with traffic.

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Speaker 4: This report you have sponsored by.

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Speaker 1: Ten Away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: Typically Chad Rendle's with us on Thursdays, but whatever, it's

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Speaker 1: a weird week. So I asked Chad to join us

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Speaker 1: today because there's a there's a lot to discuss. Bearcatjournal

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hi, Chad.

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Speaker 11: There's been a lot of weird weeks lately though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there has been. Yes, that's I'm done with the

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Speaker 1: weird week. Uh, yes, I just want a normal I

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Speaker 1: want a normal week. Here's also what I want. I

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Speaker 1: want to be doing my show. And then in the

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Speaker 1: middle of it, uh not, get a press release from

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Speaker 1: UC announcing that a basketball player is going to be

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Speaker 1: out indefinitely.

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Speaker 11: That was That was not great yesterday, mo. I thought

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Speaker 11: we might have but we might get through a day

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Speaker 11: like fairly unscathed. And then at you know, four fifteen

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Speaker 11: or whatever it was that hit yesterday and it was scathed.

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Speaker 11: The day was scathed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how big of a loss is Jalen Haynes?

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Speaker 1: And when I read in definitely should I fear that

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Speaker 1: this could be a season long thing.

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Speaker 11: Uh, it's a big loss. A big loss, especially because

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Speaker 11: I think with or without Jalen Haynes, I think this

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Speaker 11: is going to be a really good team. Defensively, I

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Speaker 11: think Jalen Haynes was going to be a guy that

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Speaker 11: could help them on the offensive end substantially. He wasn't

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Speaker 11: a traditional people see his size and think like old

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Speaker 11: school back to the basket, throw it to him and

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Speaker 11: get a bucket.

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Speaker 10: There was some of that to.

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Speaker 11: His game, but he had a lot more than that. Offensively,

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Speaker 11: he could catch it at fifteen feet and drive. He

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Speaker 11: could shoot the little fifteen seventeen footer. You could run

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Speaker 11: offense through him because he was a really good passer.

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Speaker 11: So I think offensively, this is a pretty big blow

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Speaker 11: to Cincinnati. I don't think they particularly specifically know yet

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Speaker 11: how long it's gonna be. I was kind of calling

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Speaker 11: some of my friends around the country to get a

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Speaker 11: feel for some of this. I had a friend of

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Speaker 11: mine that's an assistant in a Power five league, power

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Speaker 11: four league that said, they've got a guy that they

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Speaker 11: think they could get back in December, and that guy.

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Speaker 13: My red shirt.

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Speaker 11: Because he's gonna miss two months. You come back in

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Speaker 11: conference play. You only get two months why not red shirt?

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Speaker 11: And then you get this year's payment for your services

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Speaker 11: and you get another year next year of payment for

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Speaker 11: your services.

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Speaker 10: So I think that's.

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Speaker 11: Something to watch out for on this too. Like, if

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Speaker 11: this is something that goes into January or February or

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Speaker 11: whatever it is, does it make sense for Jalen Haynes

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Speaker 11: to maybe say, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna get back

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Speaker 11: to one hundred percent and we'll do it again next year.

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Speaker 11: So I possibly yes, Like maybe the injury keeps him

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Speaker 11: out that whole time, maybe he decides the red shirt

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Speaker 11: is the best way to go. But I do think

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Speaker 11: it's something that mentally you got to prepare for and

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Speaker 11: that west Miller and his team has to prepare for

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Speaker 11: that it could be a season long thing.

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Speaker 1: October fifteenth and we're already talking about this. They do

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Speaker 1: play Michigan on Friday. I'll be able to watch this

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Speaker 1: on like Big ten plus two some version of the

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Speaker 1: Big ten network. I can watch this on on Friday.

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Speaker 3: It's on Big.

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Speaker 11: Ten plus with that, which I think is like fifteen

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Speaker 11: dollars a month, So.

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Speaker 1: I gotta pay fifteen bucks much pay fifteen Bucks once

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Speaker 1: you see play Michigan on Friday, I believe. So if

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Speaker 1: I decide to do this, give me one or two

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Speaker 1: things I should be looking for.

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Speaker 11: Well, Michigan might have the best player in the country,

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Speaker 11: so that's something you can pay attention to. Is how

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Speaker 11: to Cincinnati handle Yaxville Lindenborg. We were like, hey, go

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Speaker 11: get that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, best player in the country.

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Speaker 11: So he'll be really good and then it'll be interesting

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Speaker 11: to see how Cincinnati handles him on the interior. I'm

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Speaker 11: gonna be very interested to see in how some of

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Speaker 11: the rotation book. I know it's an exhibition game. An

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Speaker 11: exhibition game a couple of days after they lose what

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Speaker 11: was going to be a really important piece of their

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Speaker 11: front court rotation. But and here here's the name though

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Speaker 11: where he's not getting a lot of talk yet. But

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Speaker 11: I think, especially if this injury lasts for an extended

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Speaker 11: period of time, I'm really interested in Jordi Rodriguez because

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Speaker 11: I think he can help this team. He was He's

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Speaker 11: from Spain, played in the in their their top league,

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Speaker 11: also was on the national team with Boba Miller. I

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Speaker 11: really like what I've seen from Jordi Rodriguez I've liked

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Speaker 11: what I've heard from people that have been there every day.

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Speaker 11: I think if there's an increased role, that's a guy

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Speaker 11: that might be able to capitalize on it more than anyone.

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Speaker 11: And he can really really shoot the basketball. And I

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Speaker 11: would like to have as many of those type of

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Speaker 11: guys on the floor as possible.

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Speaker 1: It's twelve ninety nine a month. I got to pay

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Speaker 1: thirteen bucks to watch UC versus. I'll be in in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City for the game against Oklahoma State. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: can get Hord and Pike to chip in and we'll

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Speaker 1: pay the thirteen bucks to watch the game.

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Speaker 9: Well, I will be there in ann Arbor.

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Speaker 1: Oh perfect?

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Speaker 9: Could you hold follow me on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: I'll follow you on Twitter, Gret. What if i'd like

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Speaker 1: just text you, like intermittently during the game.

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Speaker 11: Uh, yeah, I'm down with that.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 11: I'll update you. Maybe maybe we can FaceTime. Yeah, and

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Speaker 11: I'll give you some of the action. I don't know

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Speaker 11: where they're gonna sit us. Yeah, I saw it was

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Speaker 11: in section like two hundred something.

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Speaker 2: M hm.

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Speaker 11: So I'm probably not gonna have the best of you,

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Speaker 11: but I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good. I have two more questions for you.

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Speaker 1: One is basketball related.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I came to the West Miller media availability today, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because I am hopeful that we could replicate what they

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Speaker 1: did in Boston where the Celtics coaches drubbed Boston Celtics

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Speaker 1: media in a scrimmage fifty seven to four. And I

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Speaker 1: was trying to find five dudes in that room that

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Speaker 1: we could put on the floor against the Bearcat coaches.

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Speaker 1: Would you be game?

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Speaker 11: I'm game? I mean I Keegan. Would you know Keegan's

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Speaker 11: probably going to be our best bet for an athlete?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 11: He was. I don't have you know this one? Not

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Speaker 11: Keegan played Juco baseball.

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Speaker 1: I did not know this.

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Speaker 11: So so he's an athlete, Well he's a catcher. Okay,

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Speaker 11: so he's kind of an athlete. He's athlete a Jason.

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Speaker 1: Now, by the way, Tarran has volunteered his services, so

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Speaker 1: you know we Arran would help.

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Speaker 11: I've got Corey Evans. I'll guard Corey very good.

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Speaker 1: We'll work on that. For me. Football is not going

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Speaker 1: to lose to Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 9: Right, I wouldn't think.

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Speaker 11: So I got to answer our guy Jeff that f

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Speaker 11: f car had me on one of his shows and

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Speaker 11: asked me if this was a trap game, I said, Jeff,

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Speaker 11: I think the trap game was last Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.

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Speaker 11: You're coming off of Kansas and Iowa State. You got

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Speaker 11: a talented but underachieving, a little bit Central Florida team.

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Speaker 11: It's a rivalry game. Cincinnati didn't play great on offense,

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Speaker 11: Like I thought that was the trap game. I think

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Speaker 11: this week Oklahoma State's just not very talented, and they'll

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Speaker 11: play hard, and it's homecoming and it's the night game.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't be surprised to see them hang around for

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Speaker 11: a little bit. But this is a much much, much

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Speaker 11: more talented Cincinnati squad, and I think they're trap game.

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Speaker 11: Their sleep through game was last week against Central Florida.

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Speaker 11: I think Oklahoma State will have their undivided attention. Dante

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Speaker 11: Corleo mentioned they still remember Oli Gordon running for what

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Speaker 11: was it, four hundred and eighty three yards like two

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Speaker 11: years ago. It's still water, So I don't think this

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Speaker 11: is going to be a look past the opponent game.

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Speaker 11: And Oklahoma State is pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: How much will I have to pay to watch the

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Speaker 1: Arkansas exhbision? That to pay the SEC network money too.

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Speaker 11: So that's on SEC plush. But as long as you

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Speaker 11: have like the ESPN yeah thing, uh huh, you should

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Speaker 11: get that. That's just far to b SPN.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm looking at thirteen bucks.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm sending Kegan to Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good.

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Speaker 11: So we'll have somebody's there too, because the Bearcut Journal

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Speaker 11: that's what we do. Mom.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping that the radio flagship of the Bearcats

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Speaker 1: would would perhaps broadcast those games. But I'm spending thirteen

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Speaker 1: bucks I guess on Friday to watch that tilt while

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Speaker 1: following you on Twitter. Thank you as always, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: uh changing your schedule? Go ahead, hold on.

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Speaker 11: You have the luxury that nobody else has.

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Speaker 10: What is that you can.

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Speaker 11: Put the game on your phone and have Dan Horde

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Speaker 11: call it for you.

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Speaker 1: This is an excellent idea. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Dan is listening, but his Friday night plans have now

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Speaker 1: been made for him. All right, Chad, thanks, Thanks Mike.

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Speaker 1: Do that, Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Thirteen bucks

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Speaker 1: for Big Day. What do you get on Big ten

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Speaker 1: plus for a month to watch all the Wisconsin Iowa football?

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Speaker 1: You want to watch Luke Fickle standing on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: That's fun. Here's some Nebraska. Nebraska volleyball matches are a

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Speaker 1: big deal. You can watch those. Robert Winstroubs usually on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna on Wednesday next. On ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports station is comblin.

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Speaker 8: On Thursday Night football, the Bengals look to toss the

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Speaker 8: Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot I can

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Speaker 8: say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can be set

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Speaker 8: on our radio. The Bengals slug it out with the

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Speaker 8: Steelers tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: Coverage vos at three pm stream for free.

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Speaker 8: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: There has to be somewhere out there in Ohio State

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Speaker 1: fan who has a Big ten plus login right, who

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Speaker 1: watches like the rowing teams. Ohio State has every sport conceivable,

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Speaker 1: the wrestling team, equestrian squad, and they watch those events

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Speaker 1: on the Big ten plus that they pay thirteen dollars

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Speaker 1: a month for. So if I could just borrow that

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Speaker 1: login on Friday, I'm not gonna do anything else with it,

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Speaker 1: right to watch the Bearcats play against Michigan. We're both

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Speaker 1: going to be rooting against Michigan in that game, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to save thirteen dollars. So if

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're an obviously you're not. You don't

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Speaker 1: need big ten plus for Buckeyes football, but big ten

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Speaker 1: plus for you know, if you'd like to watch the

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Speaker 1: golf team play, why Day is a good golf team.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it. Just let me borrow the login Friday

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Speaker 1: night and I'll do you a solid. I have nothing

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Speaker 1: to reciprocate with, but that would be nice. Robert wy

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Speaker 1: Trub is with us again, a typical Thursday guest. But

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Speaker 1: you know, everything's different this week. Everything's really it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be different for a while. Everything's different this week because

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Speaker 1: of the game tomorrow. So I asked Robert to join

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Speaker 1: us before his weekly column is even up. He does

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Speaker 1: write one for Cincinnati Magazine. You could read it weekly

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Speaker 1: at Cincinnati Magazine dot comed. He's with us now.

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Speaker 15: Hi, Robert, Hey, I feel naked joining you before the

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Speaker 15: column is even that what am I supposed to refer to?

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Speaker 15: I'll just have to wake it and spitball my way

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Speaker 15: through that weekly segment.

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Speaker 1: I too feel naked for reasons that have nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with your column. All right, so I viewed the

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Speaker 1: game against Green Bay as a preseason game. The result

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Speaker 1: they weren't going to win that one, right, So all right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's see if they can do some stuff during

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Speaker 1: that game that they can build on. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: we saw that defensively, I do think we saw with

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Did we see enough to make us believe

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Speaker 1: they could upset the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'll say this, there's one critical difference between that

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Speaker 15: and a preseason game, which is, as you were just

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Speaker 15: alluding to, being a football fan is expensive, right, and

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Speaker 15: entertainment product. The Bengals without Flacco, with Browning in there

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Speaker 15: were just unwatchable and they made you eat all the

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Speaker 15: money or you know, God forbid you paid to go.

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Speaker 10: To the game.

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Speaker 15: So the ultimate sin in football, especially the NFL, is

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Speaker 15: to be so execrable and dysfunctional that you make you

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Speaker 15: want to turn the TV off basicly.

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Speaker 16: So you know, Flacco gave them that.

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Speaker 15: They were obviously in the game him in the second half.

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Speaker 15: It was a decent TV product. They had a chance.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, they had also a lot of opportunity to

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Speaker 15: as we'll probably get to work on some things and

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Speaker 15: do a lot of things they probably wouldn't in the game.

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Speaker 16: They weren't sort of shadow throwing away.

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Speaker 15: It felt like a little bit given Flaco's brand newness

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Speaker 15: to the offense in the fact, they probably weren't going

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Speaker 15: to beat the Packers, at least they didn't think going in,

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Speaker 15: despite what they talked about post game. But yeah, I

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Speaker 15: think obviously now they have the Steelers coming in to.

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Speaker 16: Ben Gay Bowl.

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Speaker 15: You know, they have the young bucket, the two quarterbacks

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Speaker 15: with Flaco and Aaron Rodgers. It's a tough matchup in

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Speaker 15: a couple of senses, but you know they can definitely

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Speaker 15: win the game. I don't think Mike Tomlin would have

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Speaker 15: been so upset at his press conference if she didn't

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Speaker 15: recognize the fact that Blaco gives them a much better

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Speaker 15: chance than Jake Browning did. The Steelers killed Jake Browning

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Speaker 15: in twenty twenty three twice. I'm sure they were licking

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Speaker 15: their chops to play him. Flaco made the offense functional.

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Speaker 16: He got the ball just like we were talking about

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Speaker 16: last week.

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Speaker 15: He got rid of it in time and quickly got

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Speaker 15: out of bad plays, didn't turn bad plays into worst plays,

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Speaker 15: and you know the dreaded cliche kept them ahead of

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Speaker 15: the chains.

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Speaker 16: He did that and gave them a chance to win

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Speaker 16: the game with a couple of things even broke right

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Speaker 16: for them.

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Speaker 15: And you know, seem to recognize that throwing the ball

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Speaker 17: So they have a crack.

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Speaker 16: You know, the.

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Speaker 15: Steelers and Aaron Rodgers have played pretty functional themselves in

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Speaker 15: a lot of ways. Rogers is doing for Pittsburgh what

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Speaker 15: Placo did for the Bengals in the second half. You know,

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Speaker 15: he's not turning the ball over. He has only three picks.

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Speaker 15: And you know the bad news is Steelers lead the

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Speaker 15: league in yards per catch, yards after the catch for reception,

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Speaker 15: which means they've.

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Speaker 16: Been breaking tackles.

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Speaker 15: And of course the Bengals don't make many tackles, so

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Speaker 15: that's a matchup there are no doubt can exploit, especially

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Speaker 15: if the rookie linebackers play as we assume they are.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have a good record. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of us are trying to figure out really how good

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Speaker 1: they are? What do what do the advanced metrics tell us.

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Speaker 15: Their defense is very good? I don't think that's been

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Speaker 15: any surprise. We expected it coming into the season. We

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Speaker 15: expected them to lean heavily on their defense, and that's

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Speaker 15: what the event's metrics tell us. They're right at the

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Speaker 15: top of the league in pressure rate, they're in the

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Speaker 15: top ten.

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Speaker 16: In DV away, and they're doing the things you expect

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Speaker 16: them to do.

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Speaker 15: Their one flaw is that they have had trouble guarding

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Speaker 15: number one enemy wide receivers, which might actually play in

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Speaker 15: this things nice hands Jamar Chase is no doubt noting that,

873
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Speaker 15: and he's had successful games against the Steelers certainly before.

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Speaker 15: And you know, offensively, like I alluded to, they're not

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Speaker 15: trying to do anything particularly fancy. They're not asking Aaron

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Speaker 15: Rodgers to do the things his ancient body can't do.

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Speaker 16: And you know, they're sort of middle of the pack,

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Speaker 16: which is what they expected.

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Speaker 15: But they have offensive line issues and they're mitigating it

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Speaker 15: by their style of play.

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Speaker 16: And the key will be.

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Speaker 15: You know what, which team can get the other out

883
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Speaker 15: of their quasi comfort zone. I guess first and make

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Speaker 15: the other team make a mistake. And given the fact

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Speaker 15: that the Steelers defense has certainly been better than the

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Speaker 15: Bengals defense has.

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Speaker 16: Been through the first you know, five six weeks of

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Speaker 16: the season. You have to give them the advantage in

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Speaker 16: that sense.

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Speaker 15: But you know, short week, home game, primetime, anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: Robert win Troup is with his check for his weekly

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Speaker 1: Bengals column at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. They're benching Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We saw them give a lot of playing time to

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Speaker 1: Barrett Carter. This defense needs a spark, This defense needs

895
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Speaker 1: guys who can make tackles. What do you make on

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Speaker 1: what they've done with a guy that a lot of

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Speaker 1: us thought was kind of gonna be the anchor of

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Speaker 1: the defense this season.

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, and a lot of us thought that because

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Speaker 15: that's exactly what Al Golden said was gonna happen all

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Speaker 15: off season. Basically, let's build around Logan Wilson, get a

902
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Speaker 15: couple of understudies and rookies to work with him and

903
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Speaker 15: sort of transform the defense in the middle there. And

904
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Speaker 15: it's kind of, you know, contradicting it not only himself,

905
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Speaker 15: but it also is sort of like, what are the

906
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Speaker 15: Bengals doing here? And one breath they're telling you, oh,

907
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Speaker 15: we still have a great chance.

908
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 16: We brought in Flaco.

909
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Speaker 15: We want to you know, not punt on the season

910
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Speaker 15: and yet in this movie, it almost seems like, you know,

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Speaker 15: let's give the kids a chance in a low pressure situation.

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Speaker 15: The season's gone anyway without Joe Burro playing, Let's throw

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Speaker 15: them in there. We're gonna have to turn over the

914
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Speaker 15: defense of them eventually. Let's give them all their you know,

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Speaker 15: reps now while the pressure is a.

916
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Speaker 16: Little bit off.

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Speaker 15: So in that sense, it's a little strange. I can

918
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Speaker 15: understand what they were thinking sort of, but you know,

919
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Speaker 15: and then you see that mistackles and lining up in

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Speaker 15: the wrong place and kind of doing the wrong thing

921
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Speaker 15: really hurt them in the Green Bay game.

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Speaker 16: And you know, it's one.

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Speaker 15: Thing to have it happened against the Packers in the

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Speaker 15: game you're expected to lose.

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Speaker 16: But now you've got a division game in prime time

926
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Speaker 16: stand alone.

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Speaker 15: You hope that we don't have a repeat of that

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Speaker 15: on Thursday night, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well said really quick. The difference, and I've talked about

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Speaker 1: this this week, The difference between three and four and

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Speaker 1: two and five feels massive because then we start talking

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Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh running away with it, and here we start

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Speaker 1: talking about the trade deadline. Trey Hendry would be the

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Speaker 1: most frequently discussed guy, but by the way, for what

935
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Speaker 1: it's worth, Trey just a few moment moments ago showed

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Speaker 1: up on the injury report as questionable, which is a

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Speaker 1: small step in the right direction beyond him. If that's

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Speaker 1: what we're doing in a week, who are some other

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Speaker 1: guys they can maybe get something for?

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Speaker 15: Well, what if I flipped it around and told you

941
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Speaker 15: what they really should do. Not only would they trade Hendrickson,

942
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Speaker 15: which you imagine they would probably try to do, but

943
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Speaker 15: what if they looked over to another terrible team that

944
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Speaker 15: just fired their coach.

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Speaker 16: Our friend will Brian Callahan and.

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Speaker 15: Said, you know what, we've never been able to get

947
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Speaker 15: a defensive tackling here.

948
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Speaker 16: Since you know Atkins who could.

949
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Speaker 15: Rush the passer, Let's give a pick already since we

950
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Speaker 15: can't draft one, and get Jeffrey Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Over to Heah.

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00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 16: No, I know you wouldn't diseason per se, but it

953
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Speaker 16: would be a center of gravity you can build around.

954
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Speaker 16: Look at the future.

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Speaker 15: You know, you had your quarterback coming back eventually, and uh,

956
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Speaker 15: you know, maybe it's not a direct Hendrickson for Simmons Trey,

957
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Speaker 15: but it works out that way in terms of the picks.

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Speaker 16: And uh, you know, you get rid of.

959
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Speaker 15: An aging guy you don't want to pay next year,

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Speaker 15: for sure.

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Speaker 16: They've made that clear. And you bring in the guy

962
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Speaker 16: who's only twenty eight, has a.

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Speaker 15: Decent contract and is obviously an excellent player, and finally

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Speaker 15: he gets an interior pass rush and and a real

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Speaker 15: dominator on the inside. Now, will they do it? Will

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Speaker 15: the Titans do it?

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Speaker 3: Probably not?

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Speaker 16: Will the Bengals do it? Almost absolutely. It's the first

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Speaker 16: thing I thought about.

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Speaker 15: And you know, whether they trade, you know, Logan Wilson,

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Speaker 15: let's say for a mid round pick, whatever.

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Speaker 10: I don't think any of that. It's the needle.

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Speaker 16: Let's think big.

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Speaker 15: We still got a little bit of opportunity to maybe

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Speaker 15: win our third game of the season.

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Speaker 16: What the heck, we're in dream state right.

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Speaker 1: Now, mom, we are. We are in dream state, and

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Speaker 1: you're naked, So it's it's getting weird. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: adjusting your schedule for us. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 15: These things happen when you get me on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, man, I appreciate it. Robert Wintrob Bengals column

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Speaker 1: coming out at Cinsion Magazine dot com. Roberie the Man, thanks.

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Speaker 16: So much, you too, Thanks both all.

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Griffin is back with the Cyclones and he is

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Speaker 1: going to join us next.

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Speaker 1: Talks more about football in a second. But the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Cyclones are gearing up for the twenty twenty five twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six season. Lincoln Griffin is back back for his

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Speaker 1: fifth season with the Cyclones. Had a huge year last year.

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Speaker 1: Career high fifty two points led the clones and assists

1005
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Speaker 1: some points, shared the team leading goals, led the team

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Speaker 1: in power play goals and short handed goals, and appeared

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Speaker 1: in a career high seventy games. He is getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the season, Lincoln. It's awesome to have you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us. How are you?

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Speaker 17: I'm great, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: What are those days before the season opener like for you?

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Speaker 18: So right now we're in training camp and so we're

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00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 18: kind of just you know, on the ice for an

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Speaker 18: hour hour and a half, getting ready for the home opener.

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Speaker 1: Home opener, by the way, on Saturday against the Wheeling

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Speaker 1: Nailor's first face off at seven thirty. What is a

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Speaker 1: typical training camp day like?

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Speaker 18: We get to the rink probably around eight, you know,

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Speaker 18: do our routine, stretch, have workout, and then we hop

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Speaker 18: on the ice and then you know, go through practice,

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Speaker 18: get off, cool down, have lunch, and then uh, you know,

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Speaker 18: before getting on the ice, we have some meetings and yeah,

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Speaker 18: it's it's just gearing up for that first game.

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Speaker 1: You have a new head coach in Riley Weslowski. What

1025
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: are your impressions of him? It's going great.

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Speaker 18: He's a he's an intelligent hockey guy. You know, he's

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Speaker 18: running the practice as well. It's very efficient. He uh,

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Speaker 18: you know, he brought a good group in and uh,

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Speaker 18: just excited to get started.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of guys and you've gone

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00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: through this for some of your teammates or certainly for

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Speaker 1: a lot of players in the EHL, this is their

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Speaker 1: first taste of professional hockey. What is the biggest adjustment,

1034
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Speaker 1: especially right now.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, you get new faces in the locker room,

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Speaker 18: especially for the younger guys they're coming from college or juniors.

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Speaker 18: It's just I think the difference is, you know, they're

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Speaker 18: they're playing against big, faster, stronger guys out there, and

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Speaker 18: you know, years ago I was I was one of them,

1040
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Speaker 18: and you get the nerves and once you get that

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Speaker 18: first shift over and done with, you know, you kind

1042
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Speaker 18: of settle in and you can play your game.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean it's five years ago, right, you're getting

1044
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: ready for year five. Was there a moment where you're like,

1045
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: oh man, professional hockey is a little bit different than

1046
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Speaker 1: everything I've done to this point.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think just the speed of the game. You know,

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Speaker 18: you're playing against older guys that have been in the league,

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Speaker 18: and you know, have played pro for a non number

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Speaker 18: of years and it's a little adjustment. But like I said,

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Speaker 18: once you get that first shift and first game over

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Speaker 18: and done with, I think you kind of settle in

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Speaker 18: and you know, just get used to it.

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Speaker 1: Riley has on his staff Louis camparosso fan favorite guy

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Speaker 1: who was nice enough to join our show maybe six

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. What is it like having a guy that

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Speaker 1: you played with now being one of your coaches.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

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Speaker 18: You know, we played together for uh three or four years.

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Speaker 18: He's a great guy on and off the ice, tremendous player,

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Speaker 18: uh just and he has that hockey knowledge that you

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Speaker 18: know he can give to the younger guys and you

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Speaker 18: know me as well. So I can't wait to see

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Speaker 18: him behind the bench.

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Speaker 1: You you kind of re signed a late in the process,

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Speaker 1: I think admittedly, why was that?

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Speaker 18: You know, I was going through talks with Wes and

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Speaker 18: my agent and we came to an agreement, and you know,

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Speaker 18: I'm back in Cincy. It's my second home and can't

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Speaker 18: wait to get started.

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Speaker 1: What do you like You mentioned your second home. You've

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Speaker 1: been here a while. What do you like about Cincinnati?

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Speaker 17: I think the city's very, very underrated.

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Speaker 18: You know, before coming to Cincinnati, I had no idea

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Speaker 18: what o'hai was like, what since he was like.

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Speaker 17: And then I got here, and you know.

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Speaker 18: I'm from outside of Boston, so it gives me a

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Speaker 18: little smaller Boston vibe. You know, there's so much to do.

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Speaker 18: The fans love their sports. It's incredible here.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. We agree there. Best of luck.

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Speaker 1: It's the last few days of training camp Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure can't get here soon enough. It's great to have

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Speaker 1: you back with the Cyclones. Can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: doing this. Best of luck this season, we'll do it again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Lincoln.

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Speaker 17: I appreciate it. Thank you very time.

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Speaker 1: You got it. Lincoln Griffin had a terrific season last

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Speaker 1: year with the Cincinnati Cyclones, now getting set for the

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Speaker 1: first season under Riley Weslowski. First face off on Saturday Night,

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Speaker 1: Puck's gonna drop at seven point thirty. By the way,

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Speaker 1: first five k get Cyclones calendars. First five thousand fans,

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Speaker 1: you got two dollars hot dogs, you got two dollars

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Speaker 1: soft drinks. You got two dollars Beersaturday Night, seven thirty

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Speaker 1: Downtown Cyclones, First face off, against the Wheeling Nailers. There

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Speaker 1: you go excited, excited to see Riley Weslowski. I've enjoyed

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Speaker 1: listening to him chat over the last few weeks about

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Speaker 1: his goals for the season. We had Louis Camperos on

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Speaker 1: the show. I know he's really excited and be great

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Speaker 1: to have the Clones played deep into the spring. It

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Speaker 1: is twenty eight minutes after four o'clock. We talked money

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Speaker 1: in Sports with Amy Wagner. She joins us.

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Speaker 1: Nace talk fantasy football with us in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's time to talk sports and money with our friend

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Speaker 1: Amy Wagner. Amy Wagner Wealth advisor from Dean Dorton Private Wealth.

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Speaker 1: You can learn more about Dean Doorton at deandortonwealth dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's always awesome to have you. Here's what I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you about. Okay, So every year CNBC comes

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Speaker 1: out with their list of like NFL franchise values, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you see this or you see this. Every

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Speaker 1: year with the start of the baseball season, they come

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Speaker 1: out with their list of MLB franchise values. The Bengals,

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Speaker 1: for instance, worth over six billion dollars, which is a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. On the other hand, twenty nine NFL

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Speaker 1: teams are worth more. The Reds are worth one point

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars. That's a lot of money. It's a franchise, however,

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Speaker 1: that people criticize them for being cheap. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to start with this. Explain for me the difference between

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Speaker 1: a franchise's valuation and what they might be able to

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Speaker 1: spend on stuff like players.

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Speaker 19: I mean, I think that you know, five billion, six

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Speaker 19: billion sounds like a lot of money, but you're a

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Speaker 19: little bit.

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Speaker 20: Lacking some perspective there sometimes, you know. And also you know, for.

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Speaker 19: Comparison's sake, the largest team or the largest team valuation,

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Speaker 19: the Cowboys have more than doubled. But the Bengals are

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Speaker 19: worth the average team in the NFL seven point six

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Speaker 19: five billion. So we're below average here, And you know,

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Speaker 19: I think you have to understand there's.

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Speaker 20: Several layers of this.

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Speaker 19: One of them is there's certain pot of money that

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Speaker 19: every team gets to split, right, TV licensing and sponsorships.

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Speaker 19: Those proceeds are shared evenly among thirty two franchise teams,

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Speaker 19: to the tune of about four hundred and thirty three

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Speaker 19: million a team.

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Speaker 20: So what's the difference.

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Speaker 19: Well, everyone has different stadiums, stadium financing deals.

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Speaker 20: We could spend days.

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Speaker 19: Here just talking about paycore, the Bangles, Hamilton County in

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Speaker 19: that whole deal. But I think it's really important to

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Speaker 19: understand that when you're looking at these valuations, there's tangibles

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Speaker 19: and then there's intangibles.

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Speaker 20: Right, you can you can figure out how much a

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Speaker 20: stadium is worth.

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Speaker 19: You can figure out how much the equipment that the

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Speaker 19: Bengals own are you can even look at how much

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Speaker 19: you know their payroll is worth.

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Speaker 21: Right.

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Speaker 19: But then there's intangibles, and I think that's what makes it.

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Speaker 19: The difference between where the Bengals are and where the

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Speaker 19: Cowboys are, Right, we'll just use them as the other

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Speaker 19: team in this example. And in the intangible is things

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Speaker 19: like brand right, like the it factor, you know. I

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Speaker 19: mean there's you know, Cowboys fans who are from here

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Speaker 19: who have no reason to be Cowboys fans. What they

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Speaker 19: just are because the team is iconic, the cheerleaders are iconic,

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Speaker 19: their costumes are iconic. And somehow along the way a

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Speaker 19: marketing machine was put into place in Dallas that build

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Speaker 19: that that builds out that iconic status. And I would

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Speaker 19: argue nothing against the Brown family that maybe something along

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Speaker 19: those lines could be a little bit lacking. Here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 19: reading we have players that everyone wants to talk about. Now,

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Speaker 19: I mean, well, Joe Burrow being hurt obviously is an issue,

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Speaker 19: But I mean you've got your Jamar Chase as, your Tea's,

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Speaker 19: your Trey Hendrickson's, You've got great players that people want

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Speaker 19: to talk about. But when you remove those players from

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Speaker 19: the conversation, what is the Bengals organization, What does it

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Speaker 19: stand for?

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Speaker 20: What is it all about?

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Speaker 19: I think many fans would kind of be scratching their

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Speaker 19: heads with that answer.

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Speaker 20: I don't know, what would you say?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I look at it from a very

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Speaker 1: sort of basic perspective when you here the Bengals don't

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Speaker 1: have the money that Jerry Jones does, or that the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants might write, or that the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots too, like that's all well and good. They still

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Speaker 1: have a franchise worth six billion dollars. And so you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the stadium thing. There's a lot of folks and

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Speaker 1: I've evolved my way of thinking because I used to

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Speaker 1: be completely opposed to the idea the taxpayers should fund

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Speaker 1: pro sports stadiums. Now I don't quite feel exactly the same,

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Speaker 1: but it would be nice if they would kick in

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Speaker 1: more money for their stadiums. And so people will say

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Speaker 1: on the other end of that screw that I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to pay for the Bengals stadium. The Brown family

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Speaker 1: has a franchise worth six billion dollars. Others will say

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they can afford to pay their stadium,

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Speaker 1: pay for their stadium on their own so which is it?

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Speaker 19: Well, and I think you can look at any business.

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Speaker 19: Since you have this business and it's worth X dollars,

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Speaker 19: that doesn't mean it's liquid. It doesn't mean you've got

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Speaker 19: all this money coming out of your pockets and out

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Speaker 19: of your pores that you have just to spend on things.

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Speaker 20: You know, I mean there is at there.

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Speaker 19: And you know, I don't just think the Bengals don't

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Speaker 19: necessarily have that gap. I mean the gap is going

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Speaker 19: to be in that intangible place because everyone's going to

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Speaker 19: have not the same fixed expenses, differing fixed expenses depending

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Speaker 19: on like how expensive your stadium is. But you know,

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Speaker 19: and I think also listen, I do not want to

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Speaker 19: get in the middle it is. I would rather talk

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Speaker 19: politics than talk Hamilton County stadium deal. But you and

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Speaker 19: I have had the conversation before too. Of you can't

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Speaker 19: ignore the spillover that happens, the economic impact that even

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Speaker 19: the Bengels during this season will bring to the Tri

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Speaker 19: state area. Detroit a few weeks ago, right, even if

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Speaker 19: they weren't Bengals fans, there were Detroit fans every We

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Speaker 19: were in Newport and Covington that day. They were everywhere,

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Speaker 19: staying in hotel rooms, flying in, driving in, filling up

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Speaker 19: their guest tanks here in Cincinnati, eating, going to all

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Speaker 19: the bars, all those places, right, and so that economic

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Speaker 19: impact spillover does packed our economy locally for the positive.

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Speaker 19: I know lots of people who same thing. They're like,

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Speaker 19: I don't care about the Bengals. Why am I paying

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Speaker 19: this tax? I would argue, And maybe this is kind

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Speaker 19: of where you've evolved over the years, and you're thinking,

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Speaker 19: we still all benefit from the economic impact of the

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Speaker 19: Bengals franchise of having the Cincinnati Reds here. You move

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Speaker 19: them to a different market and it has an undeniable

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Speaker 19: impact on our economy.

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Speaker 1: My my change, my thinking change when the Bengals went

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, because I felt like that the

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Speaker 1: branding of Cincinnati was important, right, the story of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: being told nationally was important, and that happened on the

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Speaker 1: on the tails of the Bengals. With baseball, like baseball

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Speaker 1: is different, right With football, it's it's direct revenue sharing.

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Speaker 1: Most of all the revenue gets thrown into the exact

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Speaker 1: same pot. It's it's not quite the same in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. And so what do you say to the

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Speaker 1: Reds fan who's like, look, all right, the Bob Casteline,

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Speaker 1: he bought the team and paid like two hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty million. The French itself is worth one point five

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Speaker 1: and yet we still have, you know, we're still on

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Speaker 1: the lower rank, the lower rung of what teams pay

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Speaker 1: for players. They have one point five billion dollars in worth,

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Speaker 1: So why can't they Why can't they double what they're

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Speaker 1: spending on players? What do you say to that thing?

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Speaker 19: Well, and I think there's a percentage of money that's

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Speaker 19: available right for these payrolls. I mean, we can go

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Speaker 19: back to the fact that the Dodgers have their payrolls

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Speaker 19: five times more what the Reds have, but also the

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Speaker 19: team valuation, the team is worth so much more.

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Speaker 20: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 19: I don't know how we got kind of the bad

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Speaker 19: end the deal here in Cincinnati, But I mean when

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Speaker 19: you look at the rankings, of course, you know, across

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Speaker 19: MLB and NFL teams, we're at the bottom of the

1259
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Speaker 19: barrel for both. We're smaller market, but there's also other

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Speaker 19: probably comparably sized markets that are doing somewhat better than

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Speaker 19: Cincinnati is in these rankings, you know, And I think

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Speaker 19: you can look at the dollar amount and say why

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Speaker 19: can't we spend more? But I think you also have

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Speaker 19: to look at where we're ranked on that list and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 19: if the Dodgers are spending you know, five hundred million

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Speaker 19: or whatever that number is, and we're at a one

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Speaker 19: hundred and twenty eight every year, what's the difference.

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Speaker 20: Well, they have more money. I mean, they just have

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Speaker 20: more money.

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Speaker 19: And so I don't think you can look at that

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Speaker 19: bottom line number and say that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 20: We should be spending more, you know.

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Speaker 19: And I don't know what their margins are, you know,

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Speaker 19: I don't know anything like that necessarily. But unfortunately we're

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Speaker 19: at the bottom of the barrel in booklets.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing like pro sports teams don't have

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Speaker 1: to open up their books, which makes it, I think,

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Speaker 1: from a fan perspective, doubly frustrating. Let's talk about this

1279
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Speaker 1: is what's interesting to me. You're a Kentucky fan, but

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Speaker 1: your favorite college football players Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have much to do with his play on

1282
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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, never what I have ever thought I

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Speaker 19: would be talking about a Hoosier in such great like

1285
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Speaker 19: But you know, you and I have talked before about

1286
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Speaker 19: the fact that the average career span of an NFL

1287
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Speaker 19: player is three point three years, and we've even seen

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Speaker 19: stats that say, like, hey, you know, so a few

1289
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 19: years removed from the league, many of them have nothing

1290
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Speaker 19: to show for the fact that they made millions and

1291
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Speaker 19: millions of dollars. So their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza, this kid

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Speaker 19: is insanely smart. He went to cal and got into

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Speaker 19: a really impressive business school there, and as the story goes,

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Speaker 19: he would go to practice from five thirty to ten

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Speaker 19: thirty every morning and then drive across town to an

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Speaker 19: internship all day long and a really impressive investment bank

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Speaker 19: plays and then come back to the stadium and do

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Speaker 19: all the cold plunging and you know, watching reels, watching

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Speaker 19: game tape videos, and so his whole life has been

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Speaker 19: both football and also academics at the highest level. And

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Speaker 19: when I worry about often, right, these players and how

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Speaker 19: they're going to react to these insane incomes that they're making,

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Speaker 19: this is someone who has the business acumen, the financial

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Speaker 19: background to make sure that he's fine. In fact, like

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Speaker 19: quick story, so when he announced that he was leaving

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Speaker 19: from Cow to come to IU for grad school. Cal

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Speaker 19: was like, well, you were on a full ride scholarship,

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Speaker 19: but you've got to pay for these classes while you're here.

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Speaker 19: This last semester he used nil money that he was

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Speaker 19: going to get right a lot more from IU.

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Speaker 20: To help pay for that.

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Speaker 19: But also his dad had a conversation with him about, Hey,

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Speaker 19: this nil money that you're getting feels like a lot

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Speaker 19: right now you are like front and center IU.

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Speaker 20: There are tax implications to that.

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Speaker 19: And we've also had conversations about our concerns that we

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Speaker 19: have now kids eighteen nineteen year old running around making

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Speaker 19: forty thousand or one hundred thousand where they never would before,

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Speaker 19: and maybe they don't have the backgrounds, you know, the

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Speaker 19: business classes that the personal finance classes to know how

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Speaker 19: to deal with that. So I just think it's great

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Speaker 19: to highlight someone who let's watch this kid.

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Speaker 20: He's probably going to go pretty high up.

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Speaker 19: In the draft in the NFL, and he's probably going

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Speaker 19: to make some insanely smart decisions that may not only

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Speaker 19: set up just his family, but we can talk about

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Speaker 19: generational wealth. Right when you start making smart decisions, when

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Speaker 19: that first paycheck comes in, that's not only changing you

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Speaker 19: and your children, that's your children's children, and that's really

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Speaker 19: understanding how these concepts work together.

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza quarterback of the third RDE team in the country.

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Speaker 1: But you don't see many of these guys profiled in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, you brought this into me.

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Speaker 1: He's profiled as the finance nerd who might be college

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Speaker 1: football's next great quarterbacks. So check that out. Business school

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Speaker 1: grad who's been an intern at an investment firm's I

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Speaker 1: have not seen his LinkedIn profile, but apparently he's like,

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Speaker 1: after all, only.

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Speaker 20: Social media that he has.

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Speaker 19: You think about the hype that so many of these

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Speaker 19: players have on their social media accounts right their Instagram,

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Speaker 19: their tiktoks, the or whatever.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 19: He is so laser focused on his academics and his

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Speaker 19: career that that's the only social media he has.

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Speaker 20: And by the way, most efficient passer and major college

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Speaker 20: football right now. So it's like he is equally successful.

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Speaker 19: Rarely does anyone kind of reach that altitude on either

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Speaker 19: academics or athletics. He's reached it in both places, you know,

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Speaker 19: and I'm happy to cheer for Hoosier who's in that

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Speaker 19: kind of place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's fun that Indiana's

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Speaker 1: good and now a quarterback who's easy to root for.

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Speaker 7: This report is sponsored by Macy's Bex Philly.

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Speaker 1: Our guy, Dan Klaskins is with us to help us

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Speaker 1: with our fantasy football teams. Dan is the host of

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Speaker 1: the Fantastics Insider Football show on Sirius XM Fantasy. He

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Speaker 1: is on Twitter at Dan Klaskins and I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: going to be happy to find out that I am

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Speaker 1: off the schneid one in five, baby, but shunning upward.

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Speaker 22: Yes, yes, there is hope.

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Speaker 3: There is hope. There is always hope.

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Speaker 22: And many still got more than half the fantasy than

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Speaker 22: left right, especially in league, we're half half the team's naked.

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Speaker 3: You're still in that.

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Speaker 1: Still, I'm still there, glimmer of hope. I'm clinging to it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can provide some more. Uh, all right, So

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Speaker 1: we're we're six weeks into this, it's week seven. Folks

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Speaker 1: are looking for, you know, possible trade targets. Guys like

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Speaker 1: that give me some possibilities.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, obviously value is always in the eye

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Speaker 22: to be older, so all these things are different. But

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Speaker 22: you want to try to find players with ump side.

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Speaker 22: But maybe they're not really having so much right now,

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Speaker 22: sort of that by low mentality, or maybe buy before

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Speaker 22: they get a higher mentality in the case.

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Speaker 10: Of something he's got. So let's take quarterback.

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Speaker 22: I like Jackson guard there, I mean the rookie.

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Speaker 10: He's passing the eyeballs.

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Speaker 22: Oh, and I can I help think what he'll be

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Speaker 22: doing the league. Neighbors was still in the lineup, but

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Speaker 22: nonetheless because you're rushing for the big playability that's gonna

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Speaker 22: lead us a big scoring week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm hard pressed the name Twolke quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 3: like vettering in fantasy and the rest.

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Speaker 10: Of the season.

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Speaker 3: So does that make you the starter?

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Speaker 10: I believe so.

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is a third.

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Speaker 22: He's by running back to target fifty fifty splitty salmon

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Speaker 22: right now with Zach Sharvione is definitely a little bit frustrating.

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Speaker 22: Sharbone played fourteen more snatching him against the Jags last week, but.

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Speaker 3: A broally boiled Towns had had success rate.

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Speaker 22: Forty two success rate per Pro Football Focus for Kenneth

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Speaker 22: Walker when he runs the ball to.

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Speaker 3: Just thirty two success right.

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Speaker 22: There, he's had a running back. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 22: have a bigger second half.

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Speaker 10: Now some time to buy.

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Speaker 22: A low Jefon Diggs, he looked pretty good and took

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Speaker 22: him a little slow time to get started in his

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Speaker 22: first little coming backers in thc of injury.

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Speaker 3: But with the way that all defensive looking Drake may.

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Speaker 22: On fire three to twenty eight for last week, had

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Speaker 22: a couple of receivers there have big games.

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Speaker 3: I think this could be the last chance to buy

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Speaker 3: a low on.

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Speaker 22: Diggs, who I view as the potential top twenty receiver

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Speaker 22: down the stretch.

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Speaker 10: And brock Powers.

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Speaker 3: You know, we always like to pick on the injured guys.

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Speaker 22: I think it's a few weeks before he comes back,

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Speaker 22: so you're gonna have to be patient here.

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Speaker 10: But chances are his owners.

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Speaker 22: Don't have a very good record. They might be willing

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Speaker 22: to selling for Penning's on the dollars. And I'm still

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Speaker 22: a believer in the second half, this guy is going

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Speaker 22: to be a tight end.

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Speaker 10: As the league winner.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you mentioned an injured player, so let's

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Speaker 1: run through the more notable Week seven injuries.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I.

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Speaker 22: Mean every week now we lose another stud receiver. Last

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Speaker 22: week's in addition, the best of all the guy we

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Speaker 22: talked up last week about being the eurocheason here, made Jinks.

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Speaker 22: I don't know, but Phukinakua multiple week injury here with

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Speaker 22: an ankle injury, a pretty severe one there.

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Speaker 3: I don't expect any play this week.

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Speaker 10: We'll see demonte I.

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Speaker 22: I'm sure they have a lot.

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Speaker 10: Of targets on him his way.

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Speaker 22: Meanwhile, Amiko Kabuka, one of my favorite rookie breakout players,

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Speaker 22: also added to the injury list. You're joining pretty much

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Speaker 22: the entire Tampa Bay Bucks team because Tucky Irving, Mike Evans,

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Speaker 22: Chris Godwin, they're all still a.

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Speaker 3: Little hobbled here. We're going to have to track this

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Speaker 3: one all the way after kickoff.

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Speaker 22: But certainly not good news there for managers counting on

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Speaker 22: any of them. Marvin Harrison Junior didn't have the return.

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Speaker 22: He was open and even his dad played as a kid.

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Speaker 22: He's to staying a concussion. He is in concussion proto

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Speaker 22: call and looking tis for this week there. Jarrett Wilson's

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Speaker 22: going to miss a couple of weeks for the judges

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Speaker 22: offense most terribly whipping or even worse with doubt him,

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Speaker 22: so you know he's out of service.

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Speaker 3: DJ Moore, We're going to.

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Speaker 10: See what's up.

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Speaker 22: He was hospitalized after Monday night. Didn't get a lot

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Speaker 22: of information on that yet. Listed with the growing issue,

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Speaker 22: Juvin Ridley with the answering, Ricky Piersoll with the knee.

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Speaker 22: Like I said, the wide out injuries are really really.

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Speaker 10: Piling up at tight end. It's a little bit better

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Speaker 10: than he is there.

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Speaker 3: George K.

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Speaker 22: Diners, he's going to be a limited participant today if

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Speaker 22: he doesn't stuff for any setbacks this week. He could

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Speaker 22: return and likely will return here a week seven Dolf King,

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Speaker 22: Katie's and concussion profile of the mentioned bowers out a

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Speaker 22: couple of weeks with the the issue and.

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Speaker 3: Then quarterback Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 22: They might sitting again, especially as well as Jakoby Prisett

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Speaker 22: played last week and their quarterback he's been with the

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Speaker 22: foot issue in brock Berdy, like George Kittle, a limited

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Speaker 22: participant slated for today. We'll see how would go if

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Speaker 22: not Pac Jones another week under center.

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Speaker 1: For the Dan Glaskins is with US host of Fantastics

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Speaker 1: Insider Football on Sirius XM Fantasy Give me your weekly studs,

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Speaker 1: duds and sleepers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hit it on it at the top here,

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Speaker 3: but really.

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Speaker 22: Love in the way Drake May's playing some football right now.

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Speaker 22: The second year quarterbacks matchup first the Titans this week.

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Speaker 22: I knew he had the rushing outside of the twenty

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Speaker 22: three yards per game, but it's man, it's been real

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Speaker 22: nice to see what he's done through the air. He's

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Speaker 22: cost multiple touchdowns and four of his last five and

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Speaker 22: nine to one TV ratio and that stretch I looked

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Speaker 22: for multiple scores again this week, another solid day, top

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Speaker 22: five play a quarterback. One of my studs of the

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Speaker 22: week has to be Roshi Wright.

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Speaker 3: Pretty excited.

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Speaker 22: I'm sure you are if you got him stashed on.

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Speaker 3: Your business game. Suspension's over.

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Speaker 22: I look for them to immediately get him involved in

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Speaker 22: this offense.

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Speaker 3: And Patrick Mahomes chomping.

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Speaker 22: At the bid to take out his Ferrari out of

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Speaker 22: the garage here and they get a Raiders team giving

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Speaker 22: up the six month chanashion points.

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Speaker 3: Why I got even wide receiver aid right out of

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Speaker 3: the gate. So I'm feeling pretty bolish on.

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Speaker 10: The Dutch side.

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Speaker 22: Can't feel it strongly about Alvin Kamara. He hasn't scored

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Speaker 22: since Weak one. He's only at fifteen PPR points one

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Speaker 22: all season. He's even scored double.

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Speaker 10: He hasn't even got the double digits. I said they

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Speaker 10: in two of his last four games.

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Speaker 22: So he's can that face a touchdown against what I

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Speaker 22: think is an improving Bears defense to Kuby Meyers, another guy,

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Speaker 22: he's taken a sheet this week for me.

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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: I like him coming end of the season.

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 10: But hasn't come to fruition.

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01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 22: He's been below ten PPR points and each to the

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 22: last four games, and after starting the season with thirty

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Speaker 22: and twenty percent target shares.

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Speaker 3: He ben below the twenty.

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Speaker 10: Percent market and target share and eats in the last four.

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Speaker 22: He's on the bench and a couple of deeper sleepers

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 22: here now because people need to sleep out there and perhaps.

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Speaker 14: Some waiver wires.

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Speaker 22: Canada Chairman Tys spears for the New in or excuse me,

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Speaker 22: for Tennessee Titans playing New England this week. Heel Stanttony

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Speaker 22: Howard thirty six and twenty six against the Raiders last week,

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 22: ran twice as many routes. I think they're coming from behind.

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Speaker 22: I think he's in HARDV three flex play this.

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Speaker 3: Week and Michael Mayer the Covington camp a love man.

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Speaker 17: He looked good last.

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Speaker 22: Week, scoring that touchdown with Brod Bowery down a couple

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Speaker 22: more weeks. We saw a thirty two percent target share

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Speaker 22: last week for at Tennessee, he ran around on eighty

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Speaker 22: percent of the passes. I got him a tight end

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Speaker 22: twelve this week. I think he's a sneaky play.

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Speaker 17: Versus the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer, cuv Cath I root like hell for him.

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Speaker 1: Hope it continues to work out. Let's talk about something happening.

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Speaker 1: of Fantastics Insider Football. I appreciate you, uh moving everything

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Speaker 1: up a day for us we'll talk next week. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know what I now, I got to give

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Speaker 3: props to my wife, Kelly.

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Speaker 10: It's her birthday today.

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Speaker 9: Oh what a better way to spend.

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Speaker 1: Well, Happy birthday to Kelly, and I hope to this

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Speaker 1: isn't the highlight of her birthday. All right, there you go,

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Speaker 1: coming up on five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: Well this week it's Taylor versus Tumblin on Thursday Night Football.

1574
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 8: The Bengals look to toss the Steelers into the recycling bin.

1575
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 8: There's a lot I can say about Pittsburgh, but none

1576
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 8: of it can be set on the radio. The Bengals

1577
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 8: slugging out with the Steelers tomorrow.

1578
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 9: Coverage begins at three pm.

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Speaker 8: Stream for free on the new and improved iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 8: or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: It is the badly needed bud Light five o'clock Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on ESPN fifteen thirty thanks, Like.

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Speaker 15: I have.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to do tonight Game three ALCS, I'm gonna enjoy

1585
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: a few ice cold blood lights. We're gonna enjoy this.

1586
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: How we have a lot to get to. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to, our buddy Andrew Philipponi ninety

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: three to seven the fan in Pittsburgh in just a

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: few minutes, on the Steelers who are here tomorrow, Richard

1590
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: Skinner plus the folks making what I think looks like

1591
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 1: an absolutely awesome film coming up in just about thirty minutes,

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01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: and the head golf coach at XU as well. There's

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01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: a lot between now in six Bengals game plan when

1594
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: we're done at six o'clock, with Dan Horde and Dave

1595
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: Lapham certainly looking forward to that, I think this would

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Speaker 1: be your news of the day and you could do

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Speaker 1: what you want with it. But the Bengals are not

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: ruling out Trey Hendrickson tomorrow listed as questionable on the

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Speaker 1: injury report. Now, obviously, Mi Kasicki was put on IR

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Speaker 1: today known since Monday he ain't gonna play for a while.

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01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: Tanner Hudson has been ruled out still in concussion protocol.

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: Charlie Jones questionable with that rib issue. Lucas Patrick, who's

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: still on IR, is listed as questionable as well, but

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Speaker 1: they're at least as of today the day before the game,

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Speaker 1: not ruling out Trey Hendrickson. Now, this certainly doesn't guarantee

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: that he will play. If he does play, he may

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Speaker 1: be on some sort of snap count. The expectation is

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart's gonna play. We will see. But I think

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Speaker 1: relative to how a lot of us felt yesterday where

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Speaker 1: it kind of felt like this is trending toward maybe

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Speaker 1: Trey being inactive, they haven't ruled about. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Steelers tomorrow, by the way, tomorrow, and I

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01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: think this is the first time we've done this. Of course,

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Speaker 1: excuse excuse me. We're gonna do a simulcast, so you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear me and Lance and Rocky together before the

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Speaker 1: Bengals game tomorrow, three o'clock at the Holy Grail. Join us.

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be absolutely awesome. Richard Skinner is awesome. He's

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna to join us, coming up in just about fifteen minutes.

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I spend some time. We've been really busy today with

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: guess I spent some time at the top of the

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01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: show talking about what Day've done with Logan Wilson. Logan

1622
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: Wilson has meant a lot to the Bengals. Logan Wilson,

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01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: the way he has handled his benching publicly and by

1624
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 1: all accounts, the way he has handled it privately is admirable.

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01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Logan has played terribly. I would stop

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01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: short of saying that Logan has played great. I can

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: get behind, though, the Bengals doing something that's kind of

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01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: Unbengal like, which is, you know, we know what Logan

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01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: Wilson is. He's reliable, he's steady, he's continuity, those things

1630
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: that the Bengals value, maybe more than any other. But

1631
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe there's more upside with Barrett Carter.

1632
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: Our defense stinks. There's only so many areas where we

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01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: have another option, So we're gonna try it here. If

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, okay, Hey, can the Bengals defense really

1635
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: get any worse? If it does work, cool, then you

1636
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: feel better about a guy you used a draft pick on.

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01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 10: So we will see.

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01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk Steelers with a guy we get on the

1639
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: show every time the Bengals play the Steelers. Andrew Philipponi

1640
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: ninety three to seven fan in Pittsburgh. Let's start with this,

1641
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: how would you encapsulate the Aaron Rodgers experience? So far.

1642
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 21: Way better than I thought it would go. I have

1643
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 21: enjoyed it almost from the second, actually, from the very

1644
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 21: beginning MO his first game against the Jets, his old team.

1645
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 21: Four touchdowns in that game, Steelers put up more than

1646
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:45,799
Speaker 21: thirty points. It was like we rediscovered what watching competent

1647
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 21: quarterback play was like in that game after being in

1648
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 21: the wilderness for about a half decade post Ben and really, look,

1649
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 21: they've not been stay a dynamic, high octane offense or

1650
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 21: anything like that, but we do see in almost every game,

1651
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 21: whether it's with his arm talent, with his mind, his

1652
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 21: football brain, some combination of both, we still see hints

1653
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 21: and clues that he's got that old Aaron Rodgers, four

1654
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 21: time MVP in him. And it doesn't come out consistently

1655
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 21: over fifty offensive plays per se, but he has been

1656
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 21: a breath of fresh air for the Steelers moment. If

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01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 21: I had to choose right now, I would say bring

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 21: him back next year and run it back with him.

1659
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 21: At forty two years.

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: Old, he's completed a ton of his passes they don't

1661
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: go very far. Is that going to be the Moll

1662
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: season longer? Do they hope to build upon that?

1663
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 21: Well, they definitely hope to build upon that. I think

1664
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 21: there's a few things in play here. The offensive line

1665
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 21: was wretched at the beginning of the year.

1666
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 11: It was terrible.

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01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 21: It looked like the Bengals offensive line for the first

1668
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,560
Speaker 21: few weeks. And he was getting hit a lot. Not

1669
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 21: a ton of sacks, but was getting hit a lot.

1670
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 21: I had to get the ball out quickly to survive.

1671
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 21: And the offense was I think schemed and designed to

1672
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 21: cover up for their offensive line deficiencies. They couldn't run

1673
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 21: the ball in those first few games either. Now, I

1674
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 21: do think talking about his arm, we saw it a

1675
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 21: couple times against the Browns on Sunday. He's just not

1676
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 21: as accurate on the deep ball as he used to be.

1677
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 10: I mean, there are a few deep.

1678
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 21: Ball throwers that have been better than him historically. I

1679
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 21: don't think we see that. I think that's probably one

1680
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 21: area where his game has regressed at this age. And

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 21: you know, they needed to make a decision. They decided

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 21: because their run game, like I said, was so lacking

1683
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 21: that the last two games here against the Vikings and

1684
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 21: against the Browns, they have gone with this jumbo package,

1685
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 21: big package of the sixth offensive linemen and Darnell Wantington,

1686
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 21: who's the biggest guy on the team. They're tight end,

1687
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 21: and they have installed both of those guys into their offense.

1688
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 21: And they've run for over one hundred yards in the

1689
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 21: last two games, and their offenses function much better in general.

1690
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 21: So they have for now they have put kind of

1691
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 21: Aaron Rodgers downfield, Aaron Rodgers gunslinger that's on the back burner,

1692
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 21: and their biggest point of emphasis is running the ball

1693
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 21: with those big guys.

1694
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Philipponi with us from Pittsburgh ninety three to seven

1695
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: The Fan. You ran a Twitter poll it just expired,

1696
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: asking Steelers fans are you worried about Joe Flacco? Twitter

1697
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: poles are never fifty to fifty. This is literally fifty

1698
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: to fifty Half the Steelers fans over twenty three hundred

1699
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: votes say they're worried about Joe Flacco. Should they be?

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01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 21: I don't think so, because it's not Joe Flacco in

1701
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 21: a vacuum. It's not Joe Flacco. Last year off the

1702
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 21: bench against the Steelers in Indianapolis, when they had prepped

1703
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 21: all week for Anthony Richardson, a mobile quarterback with a

1704
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 21: good offensive line, Jonathan Taylor, and wide receivers that could

1705
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 21: beat you. Not anywhere close to as good as Cincinnati,

1706
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 21: but still decent players. This is Joe Flacco with probably

1707
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 21: the worst rushing attack in NFL history and an offensive

1708
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 21: line that is very subpar, and I think those ingredients

1709
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 21: make the matchup much different. I also think that Steelers

1710
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 21: defense in the year plus in the thirteen months since

1711
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 21: they last saw Joe Flacco, has actually gotten substantially better.

1712
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 21: You've got Derek Harmon up front, a rookie who since

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01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 21: he returned from knee injury, has been outstanding. Nick Herbig,

1714
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 21: their third edge rusher from Wisconsin, has been a star,

1715
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 21: really a guy that's gotten to a level now where

1716
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 21: I don't think they can keep him off the field anymore.

1717
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 21: He's just been that much of a disruptive player. And

1718
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 21: Jalen Ramsey from Miami in that trade they made send

1719
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 21: Minka there has been I would say the Rams version

1720
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 21: of Jalen Ramsey, the guy that helped them win a

1721
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 21: Super Bowl, playing safety, playing flat corner, playing outside corner.

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 21: Had two sacks in the game against Cleveland more than

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Speaker 21: milescare and TJ.

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Speaker 10: Watt combined.

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Speaker 21: So their defense right now looks like the real deal.

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Speaker 21: And I think that that's going to present problems for

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Speaker 21: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I fear that you're right. I hope you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Philipponi ninety three to seven The Fan in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. I know you have to get back on

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Speaker 1: Nineteen after five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Richard

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Speaker 1: Skinner's with us because it's Wednesday, Local twelve Local twelve

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Speaker 1: dot com getting set for tomorrow's Bengals Steelers till ty.

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Speaker 17: Skinny, Hey Moe, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 1: I've really never been better? How about yourself?

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Speaker 14: I think I'm the same.

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Speaker 1: It's Trey Hendrickson gonna play.

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Speaker 14: I don't know, man, it is.

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Speaker 13: It was left very vague on Monday.

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Speaker 14: I kind of expect, honestly, the way he walked off,

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Speaker 14: and you know, you're ruled out at halftime of a game.

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Speaker 14: Turn around playgan on Thursday usually doesn't take place. Initially,

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Speaker 14: it was his back today on the official report, it

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Speaker 14: was his hip and so I'm gonna guess this will

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Speaker 14: be Let's see what he looks like in pregame. You know,

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Speaker 14: if you could get fifteen to twenty snaps out of

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Speaker 14: in situational maybe it comes to that. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 14: the fact they didn't rule him out certainly gives you

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Speaker 14: a chance to put him in some level of a role,

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Speaker 14: but nowhere near. You know, he only plays about seventy

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Speaker 14: five percent of STAPs, Sandy, we probably not even.

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Speaker 17: Close to that if he goes at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm not upset that they're benching Logan Wilson in favor

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Speaker 1: of Barrett Carter, because you know what, this is a

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Speaker 1: league where draft picks have to give you something as

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Speaker 1: soon as possible. Logan Wilson might not have been playing poorly,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like he was rewriting history at the

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Speaker 1: linebacker position. And it feels like he is handling this well,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with this? Should I be?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: And I'll be honest with you. You know, our friend

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Speaker 14: Paul Danner Junior does a preseason podcast that did it

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Speaker 14: at Tom's watch Bar, and he asked us all to

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Speaker 14: you know, buy and sell a player, And I said,

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Speaker 14: you know, sadly, I'm selling Logan Wilson. They wouldn't shock

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Speaker 14: me by week six if he's not a starter any longer.

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Speaker 14: And it and it came into fruition. You know. The

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01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 14: weird prot wasmo I thought I was eating my words.

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Speaker 14: Is the way he played in Week one in Cleveland.

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Speaker 14: I thought he played really well. You know that was

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Speaker 14: even after he went off with You know, they have

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Speaker 14: a concussion protocol to be evaluated for one and it's

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Speaker 14: just I mean, I blurted out in the Denver press

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Speaker 14: box on one run. I don't know why I yelled

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Speaker 14: it so loud, but I did. It was blank blank

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Speaker 14: logan take a better angle, and it just it's just

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Speaker 14: not wor. It just wasn't working any longer. And I

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Speaker 14: do think to that point that that they needed a spark.

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Speaker 14: They needed something different. Now, something different also looks like

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Speaker 14: you look like on the Josh Jacobs touchdown run where

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Speaker 14: Demetrius Knight goes to one sea gap and Comparett Carter

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Speaker 14: goes to the other sea gap and nobody's in the

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Speaker 14: middle of the field. You can let that happen once

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01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 14: or twice because they're rookies, but you can't have that

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Speaker 14: happen much more. But I'm with you. It gives you

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Speaker 14: more athleticism. It just gives you something different, and I

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Speaker 14: think they need anything different at this point. On that

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Speaker 14: side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I have spent his entire NFL career feeling nothing when

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Speaker 1: it came to Joe Flacco. Appreciate the longevity. Appreciate what

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01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: he's done. It's hard to play that long in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of bounced around. On Friday, I became a

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Speaker 1: fan because I just saw somebody who appreciated the absurdity

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Speaker 1: of the situation that he's in and you know it

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Speaker 1: is going to make the most of it. And as

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Speaker 1: that game went forward on Sunday, he did, I'm team

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Skinny no man.

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Speaker 14: After the game, I wrote a column of you know,

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Speaker 14: the competence of quarterback now has given you some legitimate

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01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 14: reason for hope in turning things around now. I also

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Speaker 14: cited the defense needing to step forward too, and that's

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01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 14: a big step they have to take at this point.

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Speaker 14: I'm not fully confident in that, but yeah, you know

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01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 14: what they did from the last drive of the first

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01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 14: half on was was him starting to feel all right,

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01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 14: let me just take this easy completion here for eight

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Speaker 14: yards and let me start to trust where Jamar is

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01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 14: going to be in t's one. If it's one thing

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01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 14: to know what they are he knows what they are,

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01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 14: he knows how good they are. But he had twelve

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01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 14: practice reps of Jamar Chase before that game. So even

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Speaker 14: though you believe in trust, he's gonna be where I

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01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 14: need the ball to go. So you see it happen,

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01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 14: you really don't probably fully have that trust, and then

1852
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 14: you see it happen and you go, huh. I mean

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Speaker 14: he even made a point of one coming to the

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Speaker 14: sideline one point Tony Jake Bronning. I mean, like these

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01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 14: guys snatch the ball. They don't just catch it, they

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01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 14: snatch it. And he said, you know, I made a

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01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 14: bad throat at Jamal on one thing and he just

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01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 14: puked it out of the air. And so I think

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01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 14: that's the thing. You saw that report take place, you know,

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Speaker 14: eighty and Jamar had twelve with or fifteen catches in

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Speaker 14: the second half. I don't think that's the coincidence. I

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01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 14: think it's Joe Flacco realizing, all right, here's what I

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01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 14: got to work with, and then when the coverage dictated

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01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 14: goes somewhere else. Oh, here's an eight yard checkdown to

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01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 14: this guy or a seven yard pass to this tight end.

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Speaker 14: And I think they found something there. They found some

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Speaker 14: of the things he does well. I'm sure they found

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01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 14: some things he didn't do so well. And now this week,

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Speaker 14: instead of having a game plan in before he even

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01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 14: showed up, you've got a game plan hopefully tailored more

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Speaker 14: toward him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there has been this like surge of optimism through

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Speaker 1: the fan base, and I don't want to temper it.

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Speaker 22: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to run the ball.

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01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the offensive line play we saw

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01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: in the second half is going to hold up. But

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01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: they at least planted some seeds for success. And now

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01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: you know, the difference between three and four and two

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01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: and five seems absolutely massive.

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Speaker 14: Well, and that's just it. I mean to your point

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01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 14: that the seeds of hope are there, but you now

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01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 14: have to go pay that hope off with this win.

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01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 14: You know, we thow must win games around all the time,

1885
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 14: like this is a must win game, but this is

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01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 14: it's really few.

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Speaker 10: It is for this reason.

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Speaker 14: Mo. You're not mathematically eliminating, you're not out of anything.

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Speaker 14: But you came off four losses, three of which were ugly,

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01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 14: and the last one where you got a glimmer of hope,

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01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 14: and you think, okay, come home and win these three

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01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 14: games at home, get the five and four to buy

1893
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 14: and off we go. Well, you got to win to

1894
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 14: do that, and so that's why I think this is

1895
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 14: a must win game two and five. The math comes.

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Speaker 17: It's hard, man.

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01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 14: You're now four games in the lost column behind you know,

1898
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 14: you're in a muddle group of the rest of the AFC.

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01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 14: And even at that point, if you lose to go

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01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 14: to two and five and it's five straight losses, I

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01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 14: think then you're just left with a bad football team.

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01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 14: And I don't think that. I don't think there's any

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01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 14: other conclusion you can make. So this to me is

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01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 14: a must win for all of those reasons.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff has always enjoyed the game tomorrow. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. That's our guy, Richard Skinner. You could read

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Speaker 1: him at Local twelve dot com and on your television

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Speaker 1: it all about area college football history, really college football

1934
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Speaker 1: history in general, is going to love this project. I

1935
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Speaker 1: can't wait to see it in its final form. The

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Speaker 1: folks who are making it join me in studio next.

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1950
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1951
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1952
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1953
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1954
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1955
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1956
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1957
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1959
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1960
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1961
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1964
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Speaker 1: means they are not ruling him out for Tomorrow night.

1965
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Speaker 1: That game tomorrow airs on ESPN fifteen thirty. Pregame from

1966
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Speaker 1: the Holy Grail at three o'clock. Remember wear white where white.

1967
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Speaker 1: I don't have any white Bengals gear, so I'll be

1968
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Speaker 1: the guy who gets laughed at for wearing like a

1969
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Speaker 1: UC hoodie orself maybe like a white dresser. And I

1970
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Speaker 1: have no idea. We will see, but we're on at

1971
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Speaker 1: the Grail starting at three oh five. Bengals game plan

1972
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Speaker 1: on as soon as we're done. Dan Horde, Dave Lapham

1973
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: right here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Not a ton of

1974
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,839
Speaker 1: other stuff going on. Game three American League Championship Series

1975
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Mariners up two to oh on the Blue Jays.

1976
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Speaker 1: The National League Championship Series off Game three tomorrow, the

1977
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Speaker 1: Dodgers up two oh in that one. Las starting pitching

1978
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: the first two nights has been unbelievable. Whether you went

1979
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: to Miami University or not, I think you're gonna love this.

1980
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Speaker 1: Cradle of Coaches is a documentary that is being produced

1981
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Speaker 1: by Resolve and it celebrates Miami's football history and if

1982
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Speaker 1: you know anything about college football in this area, you

1983
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: are familiar with all the figures whose coaching careers included

1984
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 1: stops successful stops in some way, shape or form at Miami,

1985
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: at Miami University. And the last trailer for this project

1986
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: that I saw came out in late July and it

1987
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: looks awesome, and so I wanted to have in studio

1988
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Speaker 1: to talk about the project, which I cannot wait for.

1989
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Speaker 1: Scott Thompson and Jesse Herron from Resolve. It's nice to

1990
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Speaker 1: have you, folks. How are we doing good? You you

1991
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: brought cigars. I'm great.

1992
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Speaker 7: And allying you in jersey tomorrow.

1993
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're gonna buy me a light jersey tomorrow.

1994
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be that's gonna be terrific. How are we doing?

1995
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Speaker 4: Love and life? Yeah, love in Miami.

1996
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Speaker 1: This is big, this huge, this is good. This is

1997
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Speaker 1: the sort of of project and it looks awesome that

1998
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I can't believe hasn't already been done.

1999
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Speaker 23: We've heard that quite a few times. Actually, I think

2000
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 23: it's kind of amazing that it hasn't been done before.

2001
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 23: People have talked about, Oh, I wanted to do this project,

2002
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 23: but it really came from passion with Alicia Lipton, our

2003
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 23: client at Miami University. I think it also stems from

2004
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 23: the fact that, you know, she is the niece of

2005
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 23: Ara Parsigan, so there's that connection there. He's one of

2006
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Speaker 23: the statues of the ten Statues, and then President Crawford,

2007
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Speaker 23: Greg Crawford, he you know, he has a connection to

2008
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Speaker 23: the statues, and he also has a connection with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 7: So it's a natural fit.

2010
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Speaker 17: Yeah.

2011
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Speaker 1: You've gotten like who's who, not just of Miami football,

2012
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 1: but of of the football world to participate in this project.

2013
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Speaker 24: And we still have probably three more travel shoots that

2014
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,480
Speaker 24: we have to do. Next week, we're going to Connecticut

2015
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 24: to interview Chris Berman. Wow, people are saying why Chris Berman,

2016
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Speaker 24: that's really weird. Well, karm Koza is one of the coaches.

2017
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Speaker 24: One of the statues. Karen was at Yale for those years.

2018
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Speaker 24: Chris was friends with him, being through Yale a lot

2019
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Speaker 24: of Connecticut connections.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to.

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Speaker 24: Interview two of the players that played for Karen, and

2022
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 24: then we're heading to LSU and then Button Rouge for

2023
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 24: Paul Ditel Oh wow, and doing a couple of guys

2024
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Speaker 24: down there. But I mean, it's the people that we've

2025
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Speaker 24: been able to access every time. And Jesse can speak

2026
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Speaker 24: to this too because she's producing. This is the access

2027
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Speaker 24: has always been, like, you know, we'll call the Rams,

2028
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Speaker 24: we'll call the Ravens and they'll say, you know, hey,

2029
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Speaker 24: Sean McVay, you can have them for twenty minutes, and

2030
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Speaker 24: we say we need ninety we need an hour and

2031
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Speaker 24: a half. And they laughed at us. They do they laugh, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 24: And then we say, okay, well tell Sean it's from Miami.

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Speaker 24: And then we get a call back and said, okay,

2034
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Speaker 24: when you guys gonna be here, gonna have all day

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Speaker 24: with them.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 24: These guys just they love Miami so much. That and

2038
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Speaker 24: the same with Harball. Harboy sat down and was like,

2039
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Speaker 24: I'm here all day for you guys. What are you

2040
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Speaker 24: real It's just chat for hours. Yeah, they just love it.

2041
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Speaker 23: And he sang the fight song, which I think is

2042
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Speaker 23: probably one of my favorite moments behind the scenes moments,

2043
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Speaker 23: is he just sat down and we started talking. We

2044
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Speaker 23: brought up the fight song and he just started singing

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Speaker 23: it the full fight song.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Yeah, is spending all that time with

2047
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Speaker 1: you guys, why he like hasn't fixed his defense? No

2048
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Speaker 1: fair or months ago, he might have a lot of time.

2049
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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: I see these headlines and are like, well, zach Orr

2051
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Speaker 24: is on the chopping block. I'm like, no, please, let's waite.

2052
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Speaker 1: This is so like we we know the figures, right,

2053
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Speaker 1: we know that all the figures the Cradle of Coaches.

2054
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Speaker 1: Well but that but that was going to be my thing.

2055
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have surface level knowledge,

2056
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Speaker 1: but then you do a deep dive and I'm sure

2057
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Speaker 1: that that's what the documentary is going to do, but

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Speaker 1: give us some things that maybe going into this you're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 24: I think it's a guy. Well, look, I'm not from

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Speaker 24: here originally, but I lived here twenty six years.

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Speaker 1: This is home for me.

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Speaker 24: But you know it's the names like Era. You know,

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Speaker 24: I think I think Paul Brown is Ohio. But then

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Speaker 24: when you think about like, well you think about Era

2066
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Speaker 24: and you think. All I knew from Er was watching

2067
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 24: Rudy and seeing Ara in that and it was like, wow,

2068
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Speaker 24: this guy's But I wasn't a huge I'm not a

2069
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Speaker 24: I'm not a I'm not a Catholic, so I didn't

2070
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 24: grow up loving Notre Dame. And then but I knew

2071
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 24: who this guy was. And then I hear and then like, oh,

2072
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 24: this guy absolutely bled Miami. This guy was all Miami,

2073
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 24: and I'm thinking, no, this, this guy's Notre Dame. And

2074
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 24: my believing Miami takes ownership of ERA, and ERA has

2075
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 24: a huge history, and then with the Northwestern and and

2076
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 24: and Notre Dame. But really everything started at Miami. And

2077
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 24: you look look at we View Bank and I didn't

2078
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 24: really know much about Web but I knew that he

2079
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 24: was coach of Super Bowl three, super Bowl three and

2080
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 24: NFL champion, the greatest game ever played, and then you think, oh,

2081
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 24: this is weep. We then moved back to Oxford, lived there,

2082
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 24: had this old basement in the Houston. Players would come

2083
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Speaker 24: behind the.

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Speaker 23: Critique practices too, which I found to be really funny. Yeah,

2085
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Speaker 23: they had like someone looking out for him, like when

2086
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 23: his car was coming to practice. Yeah, and they would

2087
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,759
Speaker 23: like have somebody sound off an alarm or someone alert

2088
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 23: like oh my god, he's coming, Like, don't run that

2089
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Speaker 23: play because he's gonna critique it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: I also want to add, like, you know, one of

2092
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 23: the coaches that I thought was really interesting is coach

2093
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 23: John Pott. I mean he actually went to Japan and

2094
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 23: helped really like create football in Japan, which I think

2095
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 23: is so.

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Speaker 7: Really cool too.

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Speaker 4: I started the program a Joe Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 23: Mean there's so many of those little anecdotes that I

2099
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 23: was like, oh, huh, came from Miami.

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Speaker 7: That's really interesting.

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01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: So the project is being produced as we speak, and

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Speaker 1: so when could we expect to see it? And where

2103
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: can we expect to see it?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Good question on the where that is to be determined.

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01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 23: So we're having some really great conversations and you know

2107
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 23: when we were we were talking about this a little

2108
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 23: bit yesterday, right, So the question where could we maybe

2109
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Speaker 23: see it on like Hulu or a Netflix or you know,

2110
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 23: that's the goal. The goal is to have it on

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Speaker 23: a streaming platform and it should be coming out fall

2112
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 23: of twenty twenty six. So that's the time frame I

2113
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 23: think leading up to that, right, we've got different screenings

2114
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Speaker 23: and things that are going to be coming through.

2115
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 7: I mean, we've had opportunities.

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Speaker 23: So we talked with the one of the owners of

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Speaker 23: the Commanders, Mitch Rails, and he was like, yeah, of course, definitely,

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Speaker 23: let's have a screening here too.

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Speaker 7: So the tentacles of this thing kind of spread out.

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Speaker 23: It's not just the Cincinnati area because it did stem

2121
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Speaker 23: from Miami University, but some of these people have obviously

2122
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Speaker 23: gone on to the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Jaguars, wherever.

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01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 7: So we've got a lot of tentacles in the NFL

2124
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Speaker 7: and in college football.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, Mitchrails is a Miami grad. Every time we there's

2126
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 24: no roadblocks. Believe me, this is this project has been great.

2127
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 24: But anytime we have a question, they go, oh, yeah,

2128
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Speaker 24: well that guy, there's a Miami grad at NBC Sports,

2129
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 24: there's a Miami grad at Netflix.

2130
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 4: We'll get you hooked up.

2131
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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: I'm like, you know, I've been working in this business

2133
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Speaker 24: twenty six years. That doesn't happen, you know, normally you're like, oh, crap,

2134
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,839
Speaker 24: I got to call every gatekeeper to get to someone

2135
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 24: and I don't know who that person is.

2136
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Speaker 16: No.

2137
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 4: Yah, doors are wide open because Miami.

2138
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's pretty neat.

2139
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Speaker 4: We're relatively small school.

2140
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: No, you're sure, yeah, it's not. Uh you know when

2141
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Speaker 1: you think of like broadcasting of the Syracuse right, massive,

2142
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Northeastern school huge, Yeah.

2143
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Speaker 24: Even Ohio you know they're they're state, well Ohio University

2144
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 24: that you know, their big rival has scripts has this

2145
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 24: huge you know, and you would think, oh, this would

2146
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 24: be easy with with you know, someone like that now,

2147
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 24: because it's it's all these through lines that we have

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Speaker 24: as leadership in at Miami. And it's not just football

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Speaker 24: leaders that you know, CEO of Starbucks currently Miami grad,

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Speaker 24: CEO of this company, CEO, the president of this company,

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01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 24: all Miami grads, right, So it's it's actually knock on wood,

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Speaker 24: it's been pretty easy to get into these doors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, it's interesting I mentioned this to you

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01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: months or so ago. We we've had interactions with two

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Speaker 1: folks in media that I had no idea were Miami.

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Speaker 1: We had Terrence More in our show. Few weeks I

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01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 1: wrote a new book about the big red machine. You

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01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 1: talk about somebody who wears their Miami pride on their sleeve.

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Speaker 1: And then Clinton Yates ESPN, who's on our on our air.

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Speaker 1: We had him on our show and he just mentioned

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Speaker 1: it to me. I had no idea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're so humble.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yea, they are.

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Speaker 24: I know they're not boasting. And it's expectations too. Is

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Speaker 24: you know, I think when you think about all these

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Speaker 24: guys and you think about, oh well, Terrence Moore and Clinton,

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Speaker 24: all these guys, You're like, oh, well, you know, it's

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Speaker 24: they come from a big school. They come from Texas,

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Speaker 24: Penn State, Ohio State or whatever. Nope, right, that little

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Speaker 24: school up in Oxford.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think what'll be cool about this is

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Speaker 1: it's going to tell a football story, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: tell a Miami story that isn't necessarily about football.

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Speaker 4: And high school in Ohio.

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Speaker 24: Sure, football and in high school in Ohio, because it

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Speaker 24: is we have a farm system here that other states

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Speaker 24: don't have. Florida and Texas are going to say yeah,

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Speaker 24: but at this point, I'm like, let's be the first

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Speaker 24: one to come out and boast about it. Because Ohio

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Speaker 24: and Miami aren't the ones that are saying we're the best,

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Speaker 24: We're the best, We're the best. Texas and Florida say

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Speaker 24: that all the time. Right, this is our chance to

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Speaker 24: get out there and say, no, football is invented here.

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Speaker 24: We own we owned football. Football belongs to us, absolutely,

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Speaker 24: that's right. So next fall follow twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Apparently by then I'll finish go through puberty fall of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, right, and we'll be looking for it. Yeah.

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Speaker 23: And in the meantime you can get you know, additional content,

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Speaker 23: sneak peaks, those kinds of things on the Instagram channel.

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Speaker 23: So it's the Cradle of Coaches Instagram. But you really

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Speaker 23: can google Cradle of Coaches documentary at this point and

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Speaker 23: find a ton of our content, which is awesome.

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Speaker 4: And there it is.

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Speaker 1: Wow, very cool. You've established a new precedent that all

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Speaker 1: in studio guests have to bring cigars a half box.

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Speaker 1: A half box. Yeah, we would stand, we would up

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Speaker 1: with one. That would have been fine. I am excited

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Speaker 1: to see this. I texted you out of the blue,

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Speaker 1: and normally if I'm texting you to needle you about something,

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Speaker 1: and I said, like that that documentary trailer which was

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Speaker 1: not the first one, right, looks there was a teaser. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: looks terrific and I genuinely can't wait to see this

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01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: and please keep us up to date on how things

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01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,560
Speaker 1: are going. And of course if I can help, I

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Speaker 1: have no remote idea.

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Speaker 7: A couple of doors that still need to be open.

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Speaker 7: I'll definitely be.

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Speaker 1: Asking you about something, probably somebody I.

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Speaker 7: Know I'm asking everybody about I can't get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Cradle of Coaches on Instagram or just

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Speaker 1: pretty much search it and folks can absolutely learn more

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 23: There's going to be a Cradle of Coaches game at

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Speaker 23: miam University too, so that's kind of fun. That's coming

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Speaker 23: up in November.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okaytion game Action game, yep, I do love some

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Speaker 1: action now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, number twelfth, Yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: Question about it, guys, thank you so much, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Herron, Scott Thompson, Resolve Cradle of Coaches. Look for it.

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Speaker 1: The teaser does it's going to make you like me,

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Speaker 1: just sit there and go, man, when's this going to

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Speaker 1: come out? So it's going to be a while, but

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Speaker 1: the way it will be worth it. It is sixteen

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Speaker 6: A new accident in This is westbound on Ronald Reagan Highway.

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Speaker 6: It's on the off ramp to southbound seventy five. The

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Speaker 6: left lane blocked off on that ramp. Still got that

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Speaker 6: Martin Luther King Drive. Two to three minute delay getting

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Speaker 1: I'm six o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Mowiger.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening today. Bengals game plan

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Speaker 1: coming up as soon as we're done at six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I noticed this, and I'm gonna have to ask this

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Speaker 1: kid for lessons. Case Morgan from Elder to come medalists

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Speaker 1: on is that the Marine Intercollegiate, which was hosted by Miami,

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01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: posted a fifty four whole score of two oh four,

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Speaker 1: which is nine under becomes the first avior golfer to

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Speaker 1: hit nine under part better since Corey Ward did that

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Speaker 1: thirteen years ago at the Marshall Invite the golf coach.

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Speaker 1: The head golf coach men's golf coach at Xavier University

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Speaker 1: is Brian Arlinghouse. It's awesome to have you, coach. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: How are you good afternoon?

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this. This, this sort of outing

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Speaker 1: is awesome. How rare is it for a freshman?

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Speaker 25: It's pretty rare for a freshman, But I don't he

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Speaker 25: may be a freshman in the academic world, but in

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Speaker 25: the golf world, he's way mature, beyond beyond most freshmen

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Speaker 25: that I've ever been around.

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Speaker 1: All Right, walk me through the recruitment of a kid

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Speaker 1: to become a high end, Big East level golfer.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, different story with case.

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Speaker 15: I was.

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Speaker 25: I was kind of tipped off to him, maybe his

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Speaker 25: freshman year elder, long before I was able to make

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Speaker 25: contact with him. But then you start like following him

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Speaker 25: around and just trying to check check on his body language,

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Speaker 25: check on his preparation, try to feel.

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Speaker 13: Out like the family.

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Speaker 10: And as as as usual, you find you find.

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Speaker 25: Really really good players, right, and you start the recruitment process,

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Speaker 25: and then there's part of you that wants them to

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Speaker 25: do well, and there's part of them, the part of

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Speaker 25: you that wants them to kind of not do as

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Speaker 25: well since not many other people start to follow him, right,

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Speaker 25: And he was a unique kid because I knew he

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Speaker 25: was going to get he was going to get really

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Speaker 25: really really good, really really quickly, and that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 25: And there were a ton of ton of really really

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Speaker 25: big schools after him, and he ended up choosing Xavier.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, your team wins the Marine Intercollegiate. You've won

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Speaker 1: three tournament titles over the last few years, also posted

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Speaker 1: six top three finishes over the last two seasons. It

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Speaker 1: feels like you really have this program coming along.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, thanks it we do. It's there's a good, good,

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Speaker 25: good core group of young men on this team. Everywhere

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Speaker 25: I've tried to just surround myself with good quality people

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Speaker 25: and that's kind of what we're about. And it's a

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Speaker 25: bunch of bunch of hard working guys that just believe

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Speaker 25: in each other. And I'm really really grateful and really

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01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 25: lucky and super blessed that they all trust me. They

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01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 25: trust the game plan that I put together. They believed

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Speaker 25: in the vision that I was telling them for the

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01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 25: program throughout the recruiting process, and this last week is

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Speaker 25: just one of the small little glimpses that you get into. Hey,

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01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 25: you're doing the right things. Things are moving into the

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01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 25: right direction. So we're really happy with the results.

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Speaker 1: Dive into that vision for me and yeah, you're not

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01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 1: going to tell me the specific ins and outs. I

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Speaker 1: guess that you're going to outline for every recruit. But

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Speaker 1: but when you're sitting across from a kid trying to

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Speaker 1: get him to join him to join your program, what

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01:53:58,479 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: are you telling them?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a lot of probably

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Speaker 25: what a lot of other coaches are talking about.

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01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 13: However, what we do is we put a really really

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Speaker 13: large emphasis on the.

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Speaker 10: Mental aspect of of athletics.

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Speaker 25: So these kids are all very physically gifted, very physically talented,

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 25: but a lot of them haven't really put tons of

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Speaker 25: effort into becoming a mastermind in athletics, right, So we

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01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 25: do a ton of that.

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Speaker 10: We also talk about opportunity.

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01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 25: There might be nice opportunities at bigger schools, and a

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01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 25: lot of these athletes will will make decisions based on

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01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 25: the name on the side of the bag, and they're

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01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 25: they're they're kind of ego based decisions. The kids that

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01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 25: I'm looking for in the recruiting process have a lot

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01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 25: more blue collar work ethic. They're here to do work.

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01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 25: They know what they're capable of, they know they're going

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01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 25: to be pushed hard, they know they're going to be

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 25: held to a higher standard. And the accountability factor is

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 25: not just coming from me, it's coming from within. All

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01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 25: of the guys on the team will hold each other

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 25: a able to a higher standards.

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Speaker 10: So it's.

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Speaker 25: You start to flush out a lot of the kids

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Speaker 25: that you think you want when you start to realize,

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 25: you know what, maybe there they might be a little

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 25: bit too entitled, right, Or maybe if we push them

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01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 25: as hard as we push ourselves, they might not be

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Speaker 25: able to handle that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 25: So we try to be a little bit over the

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Speaker 25: top and tell them here's what's coming, and if it

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Speaker 25: doesn't scare them away.

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Speaker 10: Then we'll continue the recruitment process.

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Speaker 1: How good is high school golf in this area? It's

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01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: funny you asked that.

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Speaker 25: I was just talking to some guys the other day

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Speaker 25: and they were talking about some winning scores from the

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Speaker 25: high school state championships back in the eighties, right, and

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 25: kids were shooting eighty three seventy seven and winning a

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Speaker 25: state title.

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Speaker 10: And that doesn't happen anymore. The level of golf at.

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01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 25: They're going to be strong net players nowadays.

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01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 13: But the level of golf, even at the high school level.

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Speaker 10: It's just through the roof.

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Speaker 25: There are so many good players, not just in Scenati,

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01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 25: in the state of Ohio, in the country, and just

2349
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 25: across the world. So the recruiting pool is super large,

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01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 25: but locally there's just every you know, once every five

2351
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 25: ten years you get you get a special kid locally

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01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 25: that you just think this this this dude's built differently and.

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01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 10: If you can get them, you're you're really lucky.

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Speaker 1: You have most of your players are from this part

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01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: of the country. But when you are recruiting someone for

2356
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: you have a kid from Quebec. Yeah, so when when

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01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: you're when you're recruiting someone from another part of the country,

2358
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: what's what's that process like?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, so a lot we try to win regionally first, right,

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01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 25: win Cincinnati, went in Ohio, win in the Midwest, and

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Speaker 25: then you start to spiral out a lot of a

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Speaker 25: lot of the people that we recruit from across the country, right,

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Speaker 25: start to buy into the same vision. Right, just because

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Speaker 25: you're from Dallas, or just because you're from Montreal, or

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Speaker 25: just because you're from somewhere in Europe, you can still

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Speaker 25: value the same things that we value as a program, right,

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Speaker 25: And you want to come somewhere and you want to

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Speaker 25: be developed as a player, as a student and as

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Speaker 25: an athlete.

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Speaker 13: So I think golf's one of those things.

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Speaker 25: Once you realize people have the same interests and are

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Speaker 25: pulling in the same direction, a lot of the differences

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Speaker 25: start to go away because.

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Speaker 10: Everybody's there for the same reason.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 25: We're here to get our education, we're here to become

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Speaker 25: really really really good people, and we're here to get

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Speaker 25: better at golf.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Xavier Invitational is going to be

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Speaker 1: on Monday and Tuesday. Do you guys realize how lucky

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Speaker 1: they are to play at a course in McAtee with

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Speaker 1: it Like folks like me have to beg rich people

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Speaker 1: to come play.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I don't know that they fully realize how lucky

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Speaker 26: they are to play at most of the places we play,

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Speaker 26: And I'm not sure it really it'll really hit them

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Speaker 26: until they graduate, right, and then they can't go play

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Speaker 26: Mcattee or Waynesville and a country club or some of

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Speaker 26: the unbelievable places places we play.

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Speaker 13: And by the way, they're not spending any money doing it.

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Speaker 25: They're there, they're they're competing, and the courses are always mint,

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Speaker 25: and the conditions are always just so good and the

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Speaker 25: competition is really good.

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Speaker 13: So no, I don't think they have any idea.

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Speaker 25: I mean, I know they're grateful, but I don't think

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Speaker 25: they're really and they really appreciate it until mid twenties

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Speaker 25: or late thirty even.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that. Coach, we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thanks for having me appreciate you. That

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Speaker 1: is Coach Brian Arlinghouse, the head golf coach, the men's

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Speaker 1: golf coach at Xavier University. The Musketeers coming off a

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Speaker 1: victory in the Marine Invitations that's called the Miami Invitation

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Speaker 1: and the Marine Invitational which is hosted by Miami University.

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